Comments on: Zakir Naik’s ‘Concept of God in Hinduism’ http://agniveer.com/600/naik-hinduism/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=naik-hinduism unleash the legend within Tue, 07 Feb 2012 12:32:11 +0000 hourly 1 By: GOD IS GREAThttp://agniveer.com/600/naik-hinduism/#comment-81628 GOD IS GREAT Mon, 06 Feb 2012 18:16:26 +0000 http://agniveer.com/?p=600#comment-81628 Sorry to interrupt this debate, But I would like to say that Advaita concept (Everything is GOD) is derived from few Upanishads. It was made famous by Jagadguru Adi Shankara. It is accepted by various scientists - Niels Bohr, Erwin Schrodinger, Nichola Tesla. The Brahma is Consciousness. We interpret the reality and that's what is seen and expressed. Yes, we live in illusion and call it real. We don't know that reality is within us. Adi Shankara was the first to reveal the fact. After being self realized, he said अहं निर्विकल्पो निराकाररुपो विभुर्व्याप्त सर्वत्र सर्वेन्द्रियाणां । सदा मे समत्वं न मुक्तिर्न बन्ध: चिदानन्दरुपं शिवोहं शिवोहं ॥ (सन्दर्भ: निर्वाण षटकं) Obviously he is referring to consciousness. Now, consciousness interprets the reality and projects it on our senses. Ignorance of mind makes us conclude that what senses give is truth. Most important rule is body isn't I here. I means consciousness. Sarvam khalvidam Brahma is misquoted. That's why this does not come in 4 advaita mahavakya. The truth is प्रज्ञानं ब्रह्म - Consciousness is GOD. I am consciousness. I am not body. When we realize that reality, by law of attraction, similar becomes the surroundings. So, the path to salvation becomes easy. As per Rig Veda 1.164.39, goal is to unite with GOD. Science of Advaita http://www.advaitayoga.org/advaitayogaarticles/advaitaquantumphysics.html "I was searching for a single statement having both ethics and metaphysics. I found it in Upanishads - Tat twam asi (You are that)" = Arthur Schopenhauer German philosopher Sorry to interrupt this debate, But I would like to say that Advaita concept (Everything is GOD) is derived from few Upanishads. It was made famous by Jagadguru Adi Shankara. It is accepted by various scientists – Niels Bohr, Erwin Schrodinger, Nichola Tesla.

The Brahma is Consciousness. We interpret the reality and that’s what is seen and expressed. Yes, we live in illusion and call it real. We don’t know that reality is within us. Adi Shankara was the first to reveal the fact. After being self realized, he said

अहं निर्विकल्पो निराकाररुपो विभुर्व्याप्त सर्वत्र सर्वेन्द्रियाणां ।
सदा मे समत्वं न मुक्तिर्न बन्ध: चिदानन्दरुपं शिवोहं शिवोहं ॥
(सन्दर्भ: निर्वाण षटकं)

Obviously he is referring to consciousness. Now, consciousness interprets the reality and projects it on our senses. Ignorance of mind makes us conclude that what senses give is truth. Most important rule is body isn’t I here. I means consciousness. Sarvam khalvidam Brahma is misquoted. That’s why this does not come in 4 advaita mahavakya. The truth is प्रज्ञानं ब्रह्म – Consciousness is GOD. I am consciousness. I am not body. When we realize that reality, by law of attraction, similar becomes the surroundings. So, the path to salvation becomes easy. As per Rig Veda 1.164.39, goal is to unite with GOD.

Science of Advaita
http://www.advaitayoga.org/advaitayogaarticles/advaitaquantumphysics.html

“I was searching for a single statement having both ethics and metaphysics. I found it in Upanishads – Tat twam asi (You are that)”
= Arthur Schopenhauer
German philosopher

]]> By: Spirithttp://agniveer.com/600/naik-hinduism/#comment-81608 Spirit Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:59:16 +0000 http://agniveer.com/?p=600#comment-81608 Brother Kkr, you just need to show me the verses from Gita/ Bhagvatam/ Vedas and other Vedic scriptures which describe Supreme Brahmin as impersonal, formless deity. And nothing else. Why is it so difficult to discuss serious questions here? Kindly, be more clear on the fact. I went through your posts and you are welcome to show the verses from Geeta describing impersonal deity. You didnt answer any of my questions. Is it your ego? If I am mistaken plz show me the right way. I am always ready to embrace the truth. But your words rather tangling me. Once again to say, just write a few words answering questions and my errors. Pls note that I am not here for a big debate with you but to learn from you. Dhanyavad. Brother Kkr, you just need to show me the verses from Gita/ Bhagvatam/ Vedas and other Vedic scriptures which describe Supreme Brahmin as impersonal, formless deity. And nothing else. Why is it so difficult to discuss serious questions here? Kindly, be more clear on the fact. I went through your posts and you are welcome to show the verses from Geeta describing impersonal deity. You didnt answer any of my questions. Is it your ego? If I am mistaken plz show me the right way. I am always ready to embrace the truth. But your words rather tangling me. Once again to say, just write a few words answering questions and my errors. Pls note that I am not here for a big debate with you but to learn from you. Dhanyavad.

]]> By: KKRhttp://agniveer.com/600/naik-hinduism/#comment-81459 KKR Mon, 06 Feb 2012 07:32:38 +0000 http://agniveer.com/?p=600#comment-81459 Brother Spirit, You may know that Hinduism is a like a university where you find kindergarten to post doctoral research course offered under the same roof. Many fail to understand this. They mix few ideas from LKG, primary school, high school and college level Hindu philosophy and create their own vague picture of Hinduism in their minds. That picture itself will have lots of contradictions and mysteries. And then they compare their religions with this "Hinduism" and even challenge unlearned Hindus ! Many times, Hindus will also get confused with these immatured questions. Because the questions themselves could be irrelevant to their level of understanding. Believe me...Hindus are not in a hurry. They have all the time at their disposal. They aim to get refined and matured over a period which spans many life times. They know for sure that eventually they will attain the same supreme bliss and ultimate wisdom as their countless masters have attained and demonstrated through their lives! Brother Spirit, You may know that Hinduism is a like a university where you find kindergarten to post doctoral research course offered under the same roof. Many fail to understand this. They mix few ideas from LKG, primary school, high school and college level Hindu philosophy and create their own vague picture of Hinduism in their minds. That picture itself will have lots of contradictions and mysteries. And then they compare their religions with this “Hinduism” and even challenge unlearned Hindus ! Many times, Hindus will also get confused with these immatured questions. Because the questions themselves could be irrelevant to their level of understanding. Believe me…Hindus are not in a hurry. They have all the time at their disposal. They aim to get refined and matured over a period which spans many life times. They know for sure that eventually they will attain the same supreme bliss and ultimate wisdom as their countless masters have attained and demonstrated through their lives!

]]> By: KKRhttp://agniveer.com/600/naik-hinduism/#comment-81456 KKR Mon, 06 Feb 2012 07:28:23 +0000 http://agniveer.com/?p=600#comment-81456 Brother, When you say "I dont understand how you got the impression of a desireless, formless Brahmin from Bhagvatam...", you sound like you have tried studying these scriptures but yet you couldn't find the truths which I pointed out. Have you really searched for truth in these scriptures ? That is when learned Acharya's like Nochur can guide. Even the very first sloka of Bhagavatham defines God in the profoundest of ways. Whether a spiritual master is satisfying his followers with logical answers or not can be experienced by only by followers, not by others. Do you think in a philosophy like Hinduism where questioning is encouraged, the followers only ask questions and they do not get answers ? I was only pointing out that, the subject being a profound one, discussion forums like this is not the right place to seek answers for your serious questions. I wish you all the best for your pursuit of truth. Brother, When you say “I dont understand how you got the impression of a desireless, formless Brahmin from Bhagvatam…”, you sound like you have tried studying these scriptures but yet you couldn’t find the truths which I pointed out. Have you really searched for truth in these scriptures ? That is when learned Acharya’s like Nochur can guide. Even the very first sloka of Bhagavatham defines God in the profoundest of ways. Whether a spiritual master is satisfying his followers with logical answers or not can be experienced by only by followers, not by others. Do you think in a philosophy like Hinduism where questioning is encouraged, the followers only ask questions and they do not get answers ? I was only pointing out that, the subject being a profound one, discussion forums like this is not the right place to seek answers for your serious questions. I wish you all the best for your pursuit of truth.

]]> By: Spirithttp://agniveer.com/600/naik-hinduism/#comment-81250 Spirit Sun, 05 Feb 2012 16:05:17 +0000 http://agniveer.com/?p=600#comment-81250 Pranam bro kkr. I thank u on the first place. I just got a feeling that you realized the innerself. But you describe the deity of mayavada as supreme Brahmin. Afterwards, if there is no answer to the questions what is the logic behind raising them? I dont know swami venkatraman. I heard his name from you. But a spiritual master must satisfy his/her followers in terms of questions. I dont understand how you got the impression of a desireless, formless Brahmin from Bhagvatam, Vedas and Geeta as well. Pranam again. Pranam bro kkr. I thank u on the first place. I just got a feeling that you realized the innerself. But you describe the deity of mayavada as supreme Brahmin. Afterwards, if there is no answer to the questions what is the logic behind raising them? I dont know swami venkatraman. I heard his name from you. But a spiritual master must satisfy his/her followers in terms of questions. I dont understand how you got the impression of a desireless, formless Brahmin from Bhagvatam, Vedas and Geeta as well. Pranam again.

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