Beef-lover: 
We will raise any issue that violates human rights.

Agniveer:
1. Why this sudden love for human rights. Or is it restricted to only bashing Hindus?

2. Why no Bollywood celebrity, media person , politician raised a loud voice against illegal detention and raping of two Nepali women by a Saudi diplomat for several months in India. The incident is not even a month old. No one dared to shout against this gravest insult of womanhood by a rascal. No one is writing open letters to Saudi government.

Perhaps because
– it is too risky. It may upset those forces who spread most brutal form of terrorism today.

– petro-dollars form the foundation of luxuries that most of these fake-liberals are enjoying. Bollywood finance from Middle East is well known for some time. Many media houses have been allegedly funded from roots that lie near the country of rapist diplomat. Corporates have huge business, professionals have great career opportunities that link to that country. – — And who cares about poor Hindu women from a poor country like Nepal! If I am wrong, let me see that this become the biggest women rights issue for these liberals.

3. Why no tweets and coverage over a policeman who was killed by mob of “peace-loving” who were stealing cows in UP.

4. No tweets when a girl was abducted, raped and forced to convert to Islam in Meerut last year.

5. No outrage when a Hindu man was murdered by Brothers of his Muslim wife in Hapur. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/meerut/Muslim-woman-weds-Hindu-man-both-killed/articleshow/45321279.cms

6. No tears when Javed, Pervez and Mannan gangraped a minor girl in Shamli. http://post.jagran.com/minor-girl-gangraped-by-three-youths-in-muzaffarnagar-1356335621

7. No tweets when Ghalib and Feroz assaulted a school teacher in Amroha and a girl in Muzaffarnagar was raped by Shaukeen and Raheel. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/lucknow/Girl-school-teacher-sexually-assaulted/articleshow/17803065.cms?referral=PM

8. No outcry when a 30 years old woman was gangraped and filmed by Naushad, Parvaiz, Hassan and Nazar in Sikri. http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-woman-gang-raped-by-four-men-filmed-in-muzaffarnagar-1801209

9. No reaction when Muslim mob killed two people in Azad Maidan, Mumbai out of religious hatred and sexually assaulted 5 lady police constables.

10. Not a single word for the Muslim woman who was raped by his father in law in Muzaffarnagar and was then declared as the mother of her husband and wife of her rapist father in law.

11. No story on Tuktuki Mandal, a Hindu minor girl, abducted by Muslim goons in West Bengal.

12. You raised so much of noise when a nun was gang raped in Bengal few months back. You shouted how Hindu fanatics are trampling the minorities. But the moment it came to light that all the criminals were Islamic fanatics from Bangladesh, suddenly there is no tweet, no press coverage, no TV report.

Your deeds are encouraging fanatics among Muslims to continue one crime after another. You are the greatest cause of communal hatred.

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Beef-lover:

We have written so many tweets against Dadri killing.

Agniveer:
1. Do you think the killers are reading your tweets?

2. Reality is that you are writing these tweets not for killers but for tolerant Hindus like Agniveer who love cow as mother. You are writing with a foolish convenient assumption that we – cow lovers – are killers. You are writing to use this incident to justify your fetish for bashing Hinduism and eating my mother.

3. If indeed you are so enlightened, choose the path of compassion and environment. Respect compassionate sentiments of 100 crore Hindus.

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Beef-lover: 
You have posted images of Shivaji cutting the hand of a butcher. You are instigating people to take law in hands to kill Muslims.

Agniveer:
1. By your argument, India should ban legacy of Bhagat Singh, Chandrasekhar Azad and Netaji as well. This is what happens when naazuk-heroes compensate for their cowardice with hollow arguments.

2. What Shivaji did was perfectly right in his era when invaders like Mughals had forcefully annexed India. Thanks to cow-lovers like Rana Pratap, Shivaji, Guru Gobind and Mangal Pandey you are safe enough to abuse cow-lovers. Else you would have been destroyed like Bamiyan Buddhas in Afghanistan. We are proud of them and are in oath to continue their legacy.

3. Read our disclaimer. What we write is within ambit of our disclaimer. We stand for non-violence, communal harmony, compassion and respect for law of land.

4. By your logic, 90% of Bollywood productions must also be banned for instigating violent activities. If yes, then fight them instead of wasting time here. If no, dare you insult Hindus, their heroes, or their symbols of faith. Watch some action movies to know consequences.

5. In matter of cow, we are very clear that Hindus must do ‘all’ it takes to protect them. And do all it takes to guarantee that no harm comes to holy cow under ‘any situation’.

6. A strict warning to all miscreants: Please desist from insulting Shivaji, Pratap, Guru Gobind, Banda Singh Bahadur, APJ Abdul Kalam or any of our heroes. Do not fuel unnecessary hatred. Hatred will have bad effect on health.

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Beef-lover:

Do you support fundamentalist right groups like Bajrang Dal, Shiv Sena, VHP, RSS who are militants.

Agniveer:

Hindus are very moderate and docile. We are aware of no Hindu group that has ever been militant. But yes, we always support right group and right causes. We are against glamorizing wrong groups and wrong causes.

If Islamic fundamentalism continues to rise and liberals like you continue to bash Hindus to support the fundamentalists, Prataps and Shivajis are bound to emerge. We can’t leave our responsibility to Putin from Russia bombing ISIS.

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Beef-lover:
What about Bal Thackeray?

Agniveer:
Till he was alive, no Rassi Kabootars of Bollywood would dare to justify their love to kill cows. Instead all would wait in front of his bungalow to seek his blessings. We definitely need someone today whose presence alone suffices to keep shut mouths of these playstation-heroes. That gap must be urgently filled.
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Beef-lover: 
Gandhi was also against ban on beef!

Agniveer:
You want me to follow Gandhi? Or want to tell me that you follow Gandhi?

In first case, if you want me to follow Gandhi, I want you to follow Shivaji and destroy cow-killers.

In second case, stop eating meat, wear khadi, stop using gadgets and take part in cleanliness drive. Don’t spit your hatred and lust in public.

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Beef-lover:

I will eat beef because people used to eat beef in ancient India. You don’t know about your own culture.

Agniveer: 

1. I am surprised to see this sudden love for ancient Indian culture! Interestingly this love is witnessed only when you need to justify your perverted desire for p*rnography or satisfy your cannibalistic fetishes of having innocent lives in your food-plate.

2. In stone-age, people used to roam around naked. So you too are going to loosen your pants now?

3. In ancient times, India was Hindu Rashtra. So lets declare India a Hindu Rashtra now. What? No? Why? If beef must be consumed because ancient Indians did it why Hindu Rashtra is wrong? Where have all beef-lovers vanished now?

4. By the way, show one single authentic verse from Vedas – the source of Hinduism – that asks one to enjoy beef and Agniveer will join you to promote beef-lovers. If you fail to show, then Agniveer will bash you like Shivaji and Pratap. Deal?

And don’t start quoting from silly research of DN Jha et al. Read the following before you ejaculate further:

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Beef-lover

I will eat beef. Even your Hindu texts like Vedas, Geeta, Ramayan, Mahabharat, Manusmriti etc permit it.

Agniveer: 

1. The beef-lover is now the Hinduism-lover after becoming ancient India-lover! Irony commits suicide when it comes to know that this same beef-lover had gone bald at the tender age of 25 due to hatred for right-wing forces for their jingoistic love for ancient India and fanatic love for Hinduism.

2. Vedas also command courts to shoot down someone that kills innocent humans and animals like cow. Let us have a deal. You follow your part of Vedas- i.e. eating beef. I follow mine, i.e. …. beef-eater! Deal?

3. Do you have guts to ever claim that Quran allows pork or making cartoons of Prophet? Why does your freedom of speech turns into ‘internal matter of religion’ suddenly as things change from Hindu to Islamic?

Now don’t say that you know enough Arabic to know that Quran bans pork and cartoons, and enough Sanskrit to claim that Vedas sanction beef. Knowing your brain-size and Aukaat, I know you are a copycat (+ pussycat) that can offend harmless beliefs of peace-loving Hindus only on basis of copied stuff from morons like Jha that you don’t even understand. 

4. If you are sure that Quran bans pork and cartoons, when are you calling it Ban-Ch*d. You did exactly the same for Hinduism and India in case of beef and p*rn ban?

5. If you are sure that Quran allows pork and cartoons, say it loudly.

6. If you are not sure whether Quran allows pork (or cartoon) or not, then what makes you so sure that Vedas allow beef? Do you want to say that you don’t know Quranic Arabic but are a genius in Vedic Sanskrit? Or is it that attacking Hindus is as harmless as playing a video game. But offending peaceful elements may put you to peace forever!

Moral of the story: Beef-eating for Hindus is like drawing of cartoon of Prophet among Muslims. It is even more serious because in cartoon, no one gets killed. In beef-eating, a motherly creature gets killed. So follow Agniveer’s advice – respect harmless sentiments of others.

5. Why is it that in case of Islamic terrorism, you keep ejaculating the non-sense of- ‘terrorism has no religion’ despite published translations of hundreds of verses from Quran and Hadith clearly promoting violence? But when a billion Hindus request you not to kill cow, you suddenly become expert of Vedic literature and start quoting holy verses in support of beef? In case of Hindus, you neither listen to majority voice nor do you know an iota of texts and still impose your views as Bhagvan Ka Vachan. But when it comes to Islam, you have audacity to claim terror has no religion when neither the majority voice nor the published translations of Islamic texts support your claim.

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Beef-lover:

Vivekananda said that beef was essential part of ancient Hindu culture.

Agniveer:

1. Now suddenly you became fan of Vivekananda. Do you know that Vivekananda said that love for cow is the common thread across all sects of Hinduism, Jainism, Sikhism? Do you want to break that thread? Are you from ISIS?

2. It does not matter what quote you put on which person. Beef eating hurts sentiments of today’s Hindus like nothing else. Killing cow is an inhuman, environment-damaging, unhealthy practice that has innumerable alternatives that do not hurt Hindu sentiments. So beef-eating does not make any sense.

3. Read Vivekananda in totality. Accept what is right. Reject what hurts harmless sentiments. That is Dharma.

4. Don’t talk of ancient history. Don’t talk of the era when no one existed who believed that Hindus will go to Hell because they worship idols. Don’t talk of the era when color of the flag was saffron. Don’t talk of the era when India had not faced religious terrorism from western borders. Don’t talk of the era before Prithviraj Chauhan made blunder of showing kindness on an Islamic terrorist. Don’t talk of the era before Jai Chand sided with enemies. Such talks will not take you anywhere.

Your misquote on Vivekananda and his intentions is clearly mischievous. Instead of digressing from core topic, let me tell you: Even if you misquote God himself that beef is good, that will not change anything. Because Hinduism is not based on blind faith on some book from sky that no one can question. Hinduism is based on intellect and sentiments.

Better focus on present. Respect sentiments of people. Accept that Hinduism provides in its core a crucial healthy, environment-friendly, economy-boosting practice that is imminent need of world. And become compassionate.

Don’t try being a modern day Jaichand.

5. For facts on beef in ancient Hinduism, have a look on following video that analyzes presence of beef in oldest book of Hinduism (and world) – The Vedas. Read carefully – they recommend punishing those who kill our cows. Considering your love for ancient India, are you ready for poetic justice? Then just jump from balcony.
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Beef-lover:
Beef is eaten everywhere across the world. Would you seek ban on beef there as well?

Agniveer:
1. Mosquitoes fly everywhere. Does it mean you will invite dengue in your home as well?

Or you want to admit that you have no brains to decide what is right for you. And hence you depend on rest of the world to be your alpha?

If yes, then brainless skulls should waste time playing video games instead of insulting my mother.

If no, then don’t give example of world. I will decide what is best for my home (my country) based on my own intellect.

2. Every civilized country punishes killing of certain species based upon its sentiments. Try killing bald eagle in USA.

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For part one of the article, please read http://agniveer.com/agni-speaks-beef-murder-and-media-part-1/
For more ripping apart of beef-lovers, please read following articles.
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33 COMMENTS

  1. The Japanese tend to perceive Islam as a “strange and dangerous religion” that a true Japanese should avoid, and the recent murders of two Japanese nationals, Haruna Yukawa and Kenji Goto, by ISIS have not contributed to any improvement in the opinions of the Japanese on this matter.

    And the most interesting thing in the Japanese approach to Muslims is the fact that the Japanese do not feel any guilt for such a “discriminatory” approach to Islam, and they evidently do not think they should apologize to Muslims for the negative way in which they perceive their religion. Arab gas and oil- yes, and Japan maintains good relations with Arab exporters. But Islam – no, and Muslim immigration- neither. Islam is something that is suitable for others, not for Japan, and therefore the Muslims must remain outside.

    And Muslims in Japan do not riot, they do not brand the Japanese “racists”, they do not burn cars, smash windows, behead Japanese soldiers for having been in Afghanistan, Iraq or anywhere else on Earth – and not a single Japanese has been victim of a Muslim terrorist attack on Japanese soil in the last 30 years.

    Maybe the countries that are suffering from islamic terrorism should look at the Japanese model of dealing with Muslims more closely.

  2. Japan’s population is 130 million people, so if these Muslim leaders are correct, then there must be around 1300 Muslims. But even those Muslims who obtained immigration permits and lived many years in the country have very poor chances of becoming Japanese citizens.

    Japan officially forbids exhorting people to adopt the religion of Islam (Dawah), and any Muslim who actively encourages conversion to Islam is seen as proselytizing to a foreign and undesirable culture. Too active “promoters of Islam” face deportation- and sometimes even a jail sentence.

    The Arabic language is taught by very few academic institutes; I could find only one such institute: The Arabic Islamic Institute in Tokyo. But even the International University of Japan in Tokyo does not offer courses on Arabic or Islamic languages.

    Importing the Koran in Arabic is practically impossible, and the only one permitted is the “adapted” version in Japanese.

    Until recently, there were only two mosques in Japan: Tokyo Jama Masjid and Kobe Mosque. Now, the total number of Muslim praying sites in Japan is counted in some 30 single story mosques and about a hundred apartment rooms set aside for prayers.

    And Japanese society expects Muslims to pray at home: no collective “prostrating” in the streets or squares; in Japan, for such “shows” the actors can get pretty high fines, and in those cases Japanese Police consider “serious”, the participants can be deported.

    Quite often, Japanese companies seeking foreign workers specifically note that they are not interested in Muslims.

    There is not even a trace of a Shari´a Law in Japan, and halal food is extremely difficult to find in there.

  3. Seems there is not a single country where Muslims would not show their true colors… But no! There is such a country. It’s one of the most developed countries on Earth, and its democratic nature is recognized worldwide, a true ally of the USA and a member of NATO. However, with all this, there was not a single terrorist attack perpetrated by Muslims in this country. Moreover, there was not a single, even minor, riot, disturbance or protest, no matter how many citizens of this country support cartoons of the prophet Muhammad published in some Danish newspaper or in a French magazine.

    The name of this lucky country is Japan.

    What Japan did to avoid problems related to Muslims was much simpler and cheaper; Japan is practically closed to Muslims.

    Officially, immigration to Japan is not closed to Muslims. But the number of the immigration permits given to the applicants from Islamic countries is very low. Obtaining a working visa is not easy for adepts of Islam, even if they are physicians, engineers and managers sent by foreign companies that are active in the region. As a result, Japan is “a country without Muslims”.

    There is no reliable estimate on the Japanese Muslim population. Asked to give an estimate on the actual number of Muslims in Japan, the ex-president of the Japan Islamic Association Abu Bakr Morimoto replied, “To say frankly, only one thousand. In the broadest sense, I mean, if we do not exclude those who became Muslims for the sake of, say marriage, and do not practice then the number would be a few thousand.”
    One of the leaders of the Muslim community in Japan, Nur Ad-Din Mori, was asked: “What percentage of Japan’s total population are Muslims?” He responded, “The answer at the moment is: One out of a hundred thousand.”

  4. In 2011, Sunni Muslims accounted for the greatest number of terrorist attacks and fatalities for the third year in a row. Over 5,700 incidents were committed by Sunni Muslims, responsible for nearly 56 percent of all attacks and about 70 percent of 12,533 fatalities.*

    Another 24 percent of the fatalities are on Shi´a Muslims. So in 2011, Muslims were responsible for 94 percent of the fatalities in terrorist attacks. Since 2011, with ISIS on the scene, the number of the fatalities –victims of the Muslim terrorist attacks- sharply grew, together with Muslims´ share in the world terrorism that is steadily closing in on 100%.

    In 2013, according to the US Department of State, a total of 9,707 terrorist attacks occurred worldwide, resulting in more than 17,800 deaths and more than 32,500 injuries. In addition, more than 2,990 people were kidnapped or taken hostage. Information about perpetrators was reported in source materials for 32 percent of terrorist attacks in 2013.

    And of these 32 percent, or 17,800 deaths, only three Muslim terrorist groups, namely the Taliban, ISIS and Boko Haram, were responsible for 5,655 fatalities, or for 31.76 percent! That means that 31.76 percent out of the 32 percent of terrorist attacks which had reported information about the attackers were perpetrated by only three Muslim terrorist groups, out of a good 50 more that exist in our turbulent world!

    Muslim terrorists can be proud: their share in world terrorist attacks is now close to 100%.

  5. Muslims Must Understand..
    1)Your faith is one from the desert land.. You may be native but Your faith is not Native.. Its Invader’s faith.. Being a citizen of Secular Country with majority Hindus & the because of HINDU Tolerance; sins of invasions with Killings, Demolition of thousands of Mandirs , Loot, Rapes, Forceful conversions are forgiven & we are allowing you & grant you Muslims the existence with continuation of your faith.
    2) You should respect the Hindu Majority sentiments & Culture & Tradition without raising questions.
    3) Do not make the contradictory statements which will hurt the sentiments of Majority like Allah is “GREATEST” & “MIGHTIEST” & MOST “MERCIFUL” the great mighty & merciful would be fine.
    4) Above all do not argue by pointing out inscriptions or statements from Vedas, Koran or any other scripture or examples or quotes. Follow the Majority as they allow you to co-exist with them in this country.
    5) We do not want your help or guidance or suggestions regarding Hinduism & related issues or developments & we are free to tackle it.
    6) If you feel that the other countries are more secular or Islamic & the rules regulations of the country is not suitable to you; you are free to settle there.
    7) If you try to rebel by the mean of destruction, the answer will be given in similar way. Note couple of blasts or on ground attacks like Mumbai will not affect the Hinduism.. crores of Hindu stay in India & In majority but think about hatred & the reaction your community will face for longer period. & I assure you that will be certainly very destructive.

    Better you become a Sufi & also learn to co-exist under the Hindu Majority or reconvert if it seems very difficult in your case

  6. To all muslims on board. Please please be honest and select your sincere answers from the following..I expect you to be 100% sincere.

    Questions:-

    1. Which of the following below is true?

    A) God is present everywhere
    B) God is present nowhere
    C) God is present somewhere (somewhere strictly mean Jannat or Allah’s throne above 7 heavens)
    D) In idol

    2. Who will be the permanent resident (Green card holder) of Hell?

    A) Great Ghazi Kings like Mohammed Bin Qasim who killed several thousand Hindu men in Sind and Multan and then captured weeping 100,000 women and children ,made them slaves and send 30,000 of them to Iraq who after doing all these say (In Arabic) “Allah is great; There is no god but Allah and Mohammed is his prophet” five times a day 11) And then another Ghazi king Mahmud who killed ,enslaved 500,000 Hindus of Afghanistan, FATA, Khyberpakhtoonkhwa and Punjab.

    B) A Hindu who does not harm any one follow Ahimsa, worship forms of God (or signs of God) Lord Shiva, Lord Vishnu by worshipping the idols of pristine temples

    c) Allah is the best judge. Allah knows the Best

    3. Select from below the TRUE statement?

    A) Smart Musa Nabi who can distinguish the sentence in Arabic he heard to be from Allah and understand that it is not made by some one using loud speaker. Btw he saw a bush fire which is sign from Allah ???

    B) Not so smart Moses of Christians and Jews, who will doubt whether the sentence (in Hebrew/Aramaic/Canaanite/ancient Egyptian), is from Yahweh or some one using loudspeaker; so Yahweh appeared as a boy (like in movie “Exodus Gods and kings”) or rather made Moses saw a boy’s image speaking

    C) God appears as Lord Shiva, Godess Durga to dumb Hindu bhaktas

    4). which of below is most logical?

    A) Soul has birth (DOB?) and death
    B) Soul has no birth or death
    C) Soul has no birth (ie soul is never created) but has death (it will be destroyed)
    D) Soul has birth (ie soul is created by Allah) but has no death…

  7. ISIS is persecuting members of every community they encounter; ISIS is slaughtering Syrians, Lebanese, Christians, Sunnis, Alawites, Kurds, and Yazidis, terrorizing anyone who does not submit to their version of Islam.

    If a religion preaches death, dying, and destruction, it is not a religion, it is a death cult.

    Islamists are not builders and peaceful “coexisters,” they dedicate their lives to the destruction of our civilization. The peaceful majority of Islam is irrelevant.

  8. -Sunita
    And did you noticed Agniveer’s article, I mean he is indirectly telling these thing’s to Muslim’s.

    He uses double standards in his this article also.

    Consider his two Question’s

    1. Where his imaginative beef lover tells him that Vivekananda also said it’s permissible and agniveer says that now you suddenly became fan of Vivekananda.

    Two problem’s to be noted

    In his article Eid Mubarak to whom he Quoted 2 scholars who are not even considered as Muslim’s to prove his point.
    When did agniveer became their Fan???
    This fallacy is often done by agniveer.
    And why do he think that we would bring Vivekananda into argument. He is like another Hindu Pagan for us as Agniveer is.
    We just are telling that vedas are false on this point and nothing else.

    2.When his imaginative beef lover tells him that you’re scriptures permits it which although is a point but we know it’s another contradiction in hindu scriptures as sometimes it says eat and sometimes probits.

    I remember in Vedas at one place you can see Dog’s intestine being eaten.

    So Hinduism is just a PAGAN religion and as Allah (Swt) correctly says that

    Qur’an 24:40
    To whom God gives no light, to him there is no light.

    Hinduism is Falsehood which will perish which indeed is happening

    Qur’an 17:81
    And say : Truth has now arrived and falsehood perish. Lo! Falsehood by it’s very nature is bound to perish.

    • Islam is a violent religion that glorifies death. That is why we see Muslims blowing up, killing, destroying, beheading etc., worldwide on a daily basis. Wherever Muslims live they create death, destruction & turmoil. Look at any Islamic country. Muslims blame all their woes on the infidel, but they are unable to resolve their own problems. Death & destruction is what Islam has given to the world.

    • @aiza
      in Vedas each animal/object/abstractionis refered as a metaphor. for eaxmple,cow is a metaphor to:light,light rays, and even knowledge.”to extract milk from a cow”, or “milk out” is a phrase constantly used in Vedas starting fro the Rig Veda. this phrase is a metaphor of extracting the supreme from everyone’s heart. this is a metaphor of extracting the supreme truth/reality(which is more precisely said as “absolute reality”,an aspect of the supreme God) deep from the abyss of mind.
      for example, to see where Rig Veda uses cow as a metaphor to light,look at this hymn rig veda1/92/1-2
      1. THESE Dawns have raised their banner; in the eastern half of the mid-air they spread abroad their shining light.
      Like heroes who prepare their weapons for the war, onward they come bright red in hue, the Mother Cows.
      2 Readily have the purple beams of light shot up; the Red Cows have they harnessed, easy to be yoked.
      The Dawns have brought distinct perception as before: red-hued, they have attained their fulgent brilliancy.

      here, the red cows refer to the red rays of sunrise.this is also confirmed in verse 2 itself.at first it refers to “red cows” which in the same verse is replaced by “dawns bringing distict perception as before,red hued attaining fulgent brilliacy”.
      from a deeper spiritual point,the dawn represents the moment one discovers the God within.this again is confrmed in verse 2 itself.the dawn(discovering the reality) brings the red hues(rays of supreme consciousness) with fulgent brilliancy/enlightment.
      this God with is called “paramathma” or “waheguru” in sikhism.it is refered to as “agni” in Rig Veda 2/2/1-4.
      thus please give us the verse where “dog ” is eaten and look for the metaphorical meaning because in rig veda, each object/abstraction is a metaphor to a higher spiritual value.

      thus your statement vedas are pagan is a blunt statement withut understanding,or even without reading the Vedas properly.

      • i think the verse you mentioned is rig veda 6/17/1.right? it onely speaks of gavyam(five things derived from cow as per ayurveda) and not cow.there is no mention of dog.the word for dog is svaan and not suna.the verse actually describes indra as destroyer of vrtha( a drgaon that holds water of life) and he “breaks across” the gavyam .no refernce to dog’s flesh being eaten.

  9. -Sunita

    Do you know even animal’s like RAT (Ganpatis ride) is sacred to you. So why don’t you guy’s start working against those who sell and make RAT poison.

    And as sister Aiza correctly said, I would like to add
    Please ban Colgate and all toothbrush and toothpastes for Hindus.

    Moreover, Archaeological evidence tell that primitive man was a non-vegetarians so what was God doing those year’s. Why didn’t He told them that you should not eat it.
    Only tell which is nothing as far as Hinduism is concerned because God even visits earth in their belief.

    2. There are places on earth where there is LOT OF SHORTAGE OF PLANTS so what about them. These areas include mostly Cold and deserted places.

    Guy’s of Indian vegetarian society say that today we have transport and we can supply them.

    I remember one of debate ‘S of Dr. Zakir Naik with President of Indian vegetarians society.

    Dr. Zakir Naik disgusted him by saying that
    1. What about the time when there was no transport
    2. Even if you do the latter, it is illogical why should they buy a less nutritious thing when they have something better than it.
    3. I request Indian Vegetarian Society to Please only pay the transport charges as it costs millions of rupees.

    Indian Vegetables Society guy’s where controlling their cries in the debate as Dr. Zakir Naik refuted every point. For instance he said it makes us good at health

    Dr. Zakir Naik thereupon presented Guinness book of world record’s and it say
    90-95% of World sportsmen, wrestlers, football player’s,etc etc are Non – vegetarians.

    It made me cry when those poor guy’s presented the example of some poor wrestler Ram.

    They said it make us peaceful, see Gandhi

    Dr. Naik : I respect Gandhi but it proves nothing as, and he list of Noble Peace prize winner’s who are Non Veg like Mother Teresa and all other’s guy’s.

    Dr. Naik further said that the Person who has done highest no. Of Murders in History…

    • the whole picture of ganapathi is a pictorical representation of consciousness whoch breaks all barriers of ignorance.
      the whole idea of vegetarisnism is to imply minimal violence onto living things.in places where there is shortage of plants,then one is allowed to feed on animals because the situation demands.but in india,where plants are in plenty the best is to restore to vegetarianism.the best is to refrain maximum from inflicting violence.that is why we are vegetarians.

      we dont want to become restlers or boxrs,we r datisfied with vegetarian diet.

  10. -Sunita
    Plant’s also feel pain. I said already, all life is not sacred. Lord has created some animal’s to be eaten. And that’s why we witness through nature also.

    Do you know when you brush teeth you kill millions of germs WHO FEEL PAIN.

    SO Sunita when will you stop doing it???
    And be then like a AGHORI BABA

    Further, stop taking bath that also results in same.

    Whether you do these thing’s or not. Hardly do we care.

    We will not do it for PROPHET MUHAMMAD PBUH demonstrated it.

    He said wash yourself 5 time’s a day before praying and you guy’s know it we practice it.

    He said you should be pure when praying to You’r Lord.

    Bath once everyday.

    And when in his time there was no concept of Truth Brush he used to do “Miswak” which is hygienic.

    Muslim’s are most hygienic in the matter of purity so much so that Prophet said

    Cleanliness is half of faith.

    No Trinitian Christian who is consider to be hygienic is not even close to it.
    They give us arguments like Heart should be clean and you Muslim’s just clean You’r body.

    However, we say both should be clean Heart as well as body as Prophet once said if any one of you eat something which makes you’re mouth smell bad.
    Don’t go to masjid pray at time as IT MAY DISTRACT OTHERS, again logical.

    Regarding you’re Question which you didn’t answer regarding fallacy in vedas :

    -Stop giving any example from vedas or any scriptures. Those people who have read these books, they already know what is written in this.

    Response : This is not our interpretation, go to Agniveer’s article “No Beef in vedas”, all TRANSLATION’S ARE TAKE FROM THERE.

    • plants dont have a central nervous system to feel pain.they detect the sense of touch but they do not feel pain. all life is sacred.whctmakes the difference is the design of the bodies which is activated by the life force.thus your pening statement falls.
      as for Vedas, the conerned person commenting on it should read the complete hymn and correlate each part of it. half reading,which is done by jazib bhat and you(i guess you too do the same,or would do the same if you happen to open the Vedas) will never take you understand the Vedas,let alone the verse you picked up.

  11. Plants do not have any sensory cells to feel pain or pleasure. Moreover, animals feel pain and pleasure. They do have nervous system and it is not hard for anyone to understand that animals do feel pain. If you are so humble that you do not want plants to feel pain then why do you support killing animals that clearly demonstrate that they do not want to suffer this pain as any human being does.

    Stop giving any example from vedas or any scriptures. Those people who have read these books, they already know what is written in this. If you can do something, then awaken your consciousness and you will see the difference of raising animals as pets or killing animals for food. But first before you do this, you have to find light within yourself.

  12. -Sunita
    In which world are you living, Plant’s feel pain and it’s proven a long ago. I hope you did not based you’re opinion on what Agniveer has said for he Just tell lies.

    Moreover, Vedas gives the logic that we should not kill ANIMALS BECAUSE THEY ARE LIVING BEINGS which is a completely ignorant argument. This is repeated throughout the Vedas. Consider this:

    Atharvaveda 6.140.2
    O teeth! You eat rice, you eat barley, you gram and you eat sesame. These cereals are specifically meant for you. DO NOT KILL THOSE WHO ARE CAPABLE OF BEING FATHER’S AND MOTHER’S.

    This passage is false as Plant’s also are able to produce offspring’s.

    This nonsense is elsewhere also.

    Atharvaveda 8.6.23
    We ought to destroy those who eat cooked as well as uncooked meat, meat involving destruction of MALES AND FEMALES , foetus and eggs.

    Problem in above case is that sexes (Male and female occur in Plant’s also)

    Yajurveda 40.7
    “Those who see ALL BEINGS AS SOULS do not feel infatuation or anguish at their sight, for they experience oneness with them”.

    These verses are completely false and need to be rejected.

    • @aiza maheen
      atharve veda 6/140: there is nothing nonsense.the ones refered to as “capable of being plants and animals” refer to animals,not plants as you think.i think you didnt read the verse at all.it says teeth at plat products, and not those capable of being mothers and father(thus refering to animals).
      atharva veda 8/6/23:
      you said “even plants have two sexes” even if so,so what? the verse condemns the ones who eat meat,not plants.that is clearly mentioned in the verse.
      yajur veda 40/7:
      there is nothing wrong in these verses. soul.athma is the source of the life force within all plants.soul and life force are two sides of the ame coin-it is the presence of soul that activates the life force by which all the bodily activities and mental activities are being carried out.
      thus there is no “absurdity” in these interpretations/translations. what is seriously flawed is your reading of these verses.

      • the reason why eating of plants is prefered from the above verse is that animal body is more designed for receiving senses such as pain than plants. that is the reason why eating of plants is prefered .

  13. plant mein toh zyada sense hota hai scientific prove toh kya veg khaney walo ka gala kaat dogey .sabit kar do plant mein jaan nahi hai ,scientific apney hisab se jawab mat dena

    • Plants do not have nervous system and brain or even rudimentary sensory organs to feel any pleasure or pain. Plants and animals belong to two different kingdom. You mow grass and it will grow again. You prune trees, it will grow more. If you won’t use ripen fruits, it will decompose anyway. There is no evidence that plants suffer from pain. There is some evidence they react to being cut, but this is a basic stimulus response that is similar to how they react to sun light. It’s not painful for them. I believe this is a poke at vegetarians and vegans who eat plants. This aims to put them off going vegetarian because all life feels pain so you can’t avoid hurting life.

  14. The cows also supply up to 800 tons of manure each year for fuel. Cow dung gives a slow even heat, good for cooking. Using coal for cooking would cost 1.5 billion dollars a year. And besides, believe it or not, cow dung kills bacteria and is antiseptic. And keeping cows is cheap since they eat things like wheat stubble, husks, and rice straw, which people cannot use.

    So why raise cattle for meat consumption when it takes seven times more acreage for a pound of beef than a pound of milk? Only four to sixteen pounds of flesh food is produced for every hundred pounds of food eaten by cattle. Ten to twenty tons of nutritive vegetable food can be produced from the same amount of land that can produce only one ton of beef. In one year, you can get much more protein from a cow in the form of milk, cheese, etc., than in the several years it takes for a cow to mature enough to produce meat. To produce one pound of wheat takes 25 gallons of water, whereas one pound of beef requires 2500 gallons. And water is not always a plentiful resource in countries like India. Obviously, using agricultural resources for meat production is nothing but wasteful.

    Furthermore, if we are so concerned about the starving people in the world and the environment we live in, then let us consider the fact that 60 million more people in the world could be fed if Americans reduced their meat consumption by only 10%. Plus, thousands of acres of rainforest are lost every day in various countries, and it is said that 50% of that is directly linked to raising cattle for meat production. And though 76% of Americans consider themselves concerned about the environment, only 2.8% are vegetarians (at the time of this writing). Many Americans may say they love animals, but they still eat them on a regular basis. Obviously, they need to raise their consciousness about this. In any case, there are many books on the market that present this type of environmental information much more thoroughly.

  15. THE BENEFIT FROM COWS

    By Steffen Knap

    The cow and bull are the prime targets of the meat industry. However, cows and bulls are very important to human civilization. Until the recent invention of the tractor, the bull was used for helping to cultivate fields for producing food, and the cow has always supplied milk. A moderate supply of milk in our diet provides the proper nutrients for developing a good brain for understanding spiritual topics. Some sadhus in India do not eat, but take only milk. From milk one can make many other foods that are used in thousands of recipes that we all appreciate, such as cheese or curd, yogurt, kefir, butter, ghee, and so on. (However, this is not to approve of the cruel and questionable practices of the dairy industry as found in western countries.) This means that, according to the Vedas, the cow is one of our mothers and the bull is like a father for the benefit they have done for society. To do outright harm to such creatures is considered extremely serious.
    I have heard Western people criticize India for not slaughtering its cows, and talk about how there would be no more starving children if they would just eat the cows. That is not the cure. I have traveled all over India and have seen hungry people there as well as in American cities, which is more able to hide such problems. Homeless and hungry people are found in every country. For another thing, cows are one of India’s greatest resources. They produce food, fuel and power. Bullocks do as much as two-thirds of the work on the average farm. They help plow the fields, hall produce, and turn the presses. For India to convert to machinery to do these tasks, especially in villages, would cost as much as 20 to 30 billion dollars. For a country like India, that is out of the question and a waste of time and money.

  16. Just recently in the year 2000 the publication Scientific America reported a complete Cow Human Genome comparison had been completed. Among the 768 genes on the cattle RH map, 687 genes or 89.5% had putative human orthologs. Among the 687 mapped genes, 548 genes had human GB4 RH mapping information. 22 were mapped exclusively on the G3 panel and 68 had human cytogenetic assignments exclusively.

    All cow chromosomes with the possible exception of BTA9 and BTA23 have centromere repositioning relative to human chromosomes. Four cattle chromsomes show complete conservation of syntegy with their human homologs. The four are: BTA12 and HSA13, BTA19 and HSA17, BTA24 and HSA18, BTAX and HSAX . For all of these chromosomes multiple rearrangements were observed. BTA3 was the only cow chromosome that showed no internal rearrangments when compared with the homologous segment on HSA1. Fifteen cattle chromosomes are seen to be comprised of genes found on only one human chromosome.

    Cow milk is the most compatible with human mothers milk then any other species in existence. This is because the DNA of the cow was specifically constructeds to be harmonious with mammalian human DNA. So it can be clearly understood that cow DNA was designed so humans could benefit from cows products being milk, cheese, butter, cream and yoghurt.

  17. In the Manu-samhita, chapter 4, verse 162 we find: A guru, a teacher, a father, a mother, a brahmana, a cow and a yogi all should never be killed.

    Even in the Old Testament of the Bible which applies to both Christians and Jews in Issaih, chapter 66 verse 3 we find: He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man. He that sacrifices a lamb is as if he slit a dogs neck, he that offereth it as an oblation is as if he offered swines blood, he that burneth it as incense as if he blessed an idol. Yea they have chosen their way and their soul delighteth in their abominations.

    In the Mahabharata, Anusasana-parva, 114.6, 115.6 it states: As the footprints of all moving, living beings are engulfed in those of the elephant, even thus all religions are to be understood by ahimsa which is non-violence to any living being by thought, words or actions.

    So from these examples it can be clearly understood that cow killing and cow eating were definitely not sanctioned by the Vedic scriptures to the contrary they were condemned; and also according to the authority of the Bible cow killing is not sanctioned in the Christian religion either.

  18. Secondly some scholars with an extremely limited fund of knowledge want to postulate that meat was an essential ingreient of madhuparka because of one verse in the Rig Veda VI.44.21 which equates Indra as having the strength of a bull and also mentions the sweet drink madhupeya. So they then interpolated the translation to say that bull meat was a part of madhuparka. In this way due to their academic status they are able to mislead the public. The root word madhu means sweet and is sometimes even referred to honey. In the Monier-Williams Sanskrit-English Dictionary page 780 the meaning of madhuparka is offerrings of honey and milk also sometimes containing equal parts of curds and ghee to a respected guest. No where in the Vedas can be found any reference to meat being an ingredient of madhuparka.

    So other examples like the previous two interpolators have found useful for their obscure translations; but the clear, direct, unequivocal statements found throughout the Vedas against cow killing they ignore. We will give a few relevant examples now.

    In the Rig Veda X.87.16 we find: One who partakes of human flesh, the flesh of a horse or of another animal and deprives others from milk by slaughtering cows ; if such a fiend does not desist then even cut off their heads by your powers Oh king.
    In the Atharva Veda VIII.6.23 we find: Those who eat cooked or uncooked flesh, who eat eggs and embryos are following an evil addiction that must be put to an end

    In the Srimad Bhagavatam, Canto 11, chapter 5, verse 14 we find: Those who are ignorant of the absolute truth and believe they are virtuous although wicked and arrogant who kill animals without any feeling of remorse or fear of punishment are devoured by those very same animals in their next birth.

  19. The cow is extremely important regarding the destiny of the total human species in all the worlds and creation itself that her value is impossible to overestimate. The name for cow in the Vedas is known as aghyna which means invioable. Another name is ahi which means not to be killed and another is aditi which means never to be cut into pieces.

    Some scholars and indologists in India as well as from western countries without having ever experienced the Vedic culture as a way of life have speculated that cows and other animals were sacrificed in Vedic ceremonies. They take unorthodox interpretations of obscure verses in the Vedas, out of context to postulate this point of view. Two examples of this we are giving as follows.

    First in the Satapatha Brahmana, 3.1.2.21 there is a gross interpolation from western scholars echoed by indolologists around the world that the great sage Yajnavalkya would eat the tender meat of cows and bulls. The word dhenu which they translated as cow factually refers to the milk products of the cow only and not the cow herself and the sanskrit word anaduh factually refers to the grains produced by the bull from ploughing the fields. What exactly Yajnavalkya has stated in this verse is that he can eat what is amsala. The interpolators, some being ignorant and some not so ignorant of the rules of Panini have translated amsala as being tender flesh. Panini is the authority on all matters concerning the rules of Sanskrit grammar and according to sutra 5.2.8 of Panini the word amsala can only mean nourishing and strength bestowing. Also in the Amarakosa 2.6.44 it states that amsala is mamsala which never applies to flesh tender or otherwise. Mamsala specifically aplies to cream and sweets made from milk products as well as fresh and dried fruits. So there is no basis according to sastra for translating amsala as flesh.

  20. excellent article agniveer ji,,,,sir its my humble request if u can post a detailed article by citing verses from vedas that proves pre marital sex , adultery and live in relations are strictly banned in hinduism ..on net i see many so called intellectuals citing that hinduism allows it and even worship ladies who do that… iam sending u few links..http://www.womensweb.in/2014/11/patriarchy-in-hindu-marriages-kanyadaan/,http://www.browngirlmagazine.com/2014/08/virginity-female-worth-kanyadaan-conundrum/

  21. societies who have made their land barren. It is very shameless your colonial education that allows so much illiteracy as the world over and many scientific bodies state for health, and welfare of world give up meat eating.Even in meat eating countries like America 10% of the population have turned vegetarian.

    In America ban dog and horse meat, and Arabia ban pig meat, why cannot we respect our own culture. This reason why we are backwards we let everyone walk over us..

  22. Flue(pig meat), Bird flue(Chicken), Mad Cow(Cow Meat), Flue, common cold, E-coli, Salmonella poisoning. fecal contamination, Heart disease blockage of the arteries to the brain, heart, muscles American heart Association who say it starts as early as the age of two, Cancer and genetic disease by American cancer society, and so many other diseases like dementia etc. Why harm your family and risk lives doing something that is justified only in the religions of Christianity and Islam.All this takes away from the productivity of the country and the ability to earn.
    Further read Exodus 32 where fellow Israelis are killed who worship cows three thousand of them on the commandments of Mosses the new religion later god curse them with drought also a prophet of Christians and Muslims who also states to kill Hittites, Canaanites, and many others destroy their temples,and take their daughters. . So yes it is your religious basis that must look at cow worship the respect of the mother force with great disrespect and contempt as they were first to give up the worship of mother which is the basic cause of the destruction of the world.

    Further to your opinion that a person has not right to moralize on this issue I will refer you to Romans 14 of the bible which state those who dare judge meat eaters who eat for the lord would be put down, further calling vegetarians weak and of weak in faith/non-believers. Further other places stating clearly that vegetarians are evil, and feed flesh of human to them. So Romans like Greek and Hindu were vegetarian many of their philosophers, military and gladiators.

    You seem to be pandering to the worst form of fanatism since you well aware what Hindus think that meat eating is tamsic, or the path of tamas destruction as we have given scientific evidence.
    You should note the fertility of India who worship cows a form of mother and you wish us to behave like nomadic savages giving up our culture and taking values of these slave based…

  23. Look India has the higest amount of arable land. We cannot think like nomadic arabs and doom our counrty to deserts. Start getting a brain and being literate.

    Here some more information in reply to another article pro-beef.

    So you want to be like the Taliban feeding cow meat to the
    unsuspecting IC 814 hijack victims, and doing all sorts of Nonsense. Many use to make the difference that Hindu do not kill like terrorist who eat meat having value for all lives. Strangely only the vegetarians could say how cruel and mean these Hijackers were. But being your twisted logic and irrationality is shameless that you equate those who wish to save cows as you would not understand such difference.When the world over is moving to a vegetarian diet you wish to stick to your backwards colonial education and deny what is best

    Have you not studied environmental science or read recently about medicines?

    “. Yet according to a 2006 report by the United Nations Food
    and Agriculture Organization (FAO), our diets and,
    specifically, the meat in them cause more greenhouse gases carbon dioxide (CO2), methane, nitrous oxide, and the like to spew into the atmosphere than either transportation or industry.”

    “Beef’s environmental impact dwarfs that of other meat
    including chicken and p0rk, new research reveals, with
    one expert saying that eating less red meat would be a
    better way for people to cut carbon emissions than giving
    up their cars.”

    Further it is stated that if we give up meat eating so much farm land would be freed that is used to produce food to feed the animals that another billion people could be fed by that properly and without malnourishment.Further that extra feed could be used to make a renewable fuel. Economically we would make a positive economy and close a polluting industry as meat eating has the highest carbon foot print, people will live better and healthier.

    Further It is known that Disease like Ebola(Bush/Bats meat),HIV(Monkey meat),Swine…

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