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It is possible that this post is based on the translations and commentaries of Islamic texts like Quran, Hadiths etc. as published by all major Islamic publishing sources. These are the publicly available translations that are used for promotion of Islam by prominent representatives.

We, however, believe that most of these texts have been wrongly translated, misinterpreted, misquoted or even have been tampered with and interpolated to suit the selfish designs of proponents of Islam after Muhammad. Thus, we believe that original Islam and original Quran of Muhammad are totally different from what have been propagated by his followers in name of Islam. There are few minority groups in Muslims whose scholars subscribe to our views and interpret/translate Islamic texts differently or even refuse to consider the available Quran and Hadiths as authentic. But these scholars themselves are considered Kafirs and are condemned by a dominant elite group of Islam. Thus, when we refer to Islam, we actually imply these dominant elites of Islam and not Muslims or all Islamic scholars in general.

Wherever we critically evaluate Muhammad, we imply the fictitious Muhammad propagated by these false texts or their wrong translations and not the original Muhammad. We have high regard for original Muhammad who stood for non-violence and tolerance. Similarly, when we analyze Islamic texts, we refer to these questionable translations/versions and NOT original texts.

Further, we have a sense of the highest level of brotherhood for Muslims in general. Wherever we use the word Muslim in a critical manner, it refers to false representatives of Islam and not Muslims in general. Readers are requested to keep this in mind to understand the correct perspective of such posts on this website.

Nowhere should they assume the words like Islam, Quran, Prophet etc. to be referring to original noble entities, unless it has been referred in a positive light. We restrict ourselves only to notions prevalent in minds of fanatics and those without reason.

अस्वीकरण पढ़ें

इस पूरी वेबसाईट में जहाँ भी ‘इस्लाम’ वा ‘मुसलमान’ वा पैग़म्बर आदि मज़हबी शब्दों का प्रयोग हुआ है, उसका अर्थ केवल और केवल इस्लाम वा मुसलमान वा पैग़म्बर आदि शब्दों की वह व्याख्या है जो कट्टर इस्लाम के मशहूर और लोकप्रिय प्रचारक जैसे - ज़ाकिर नाईक़, अंजम चौधरी, हाफ़िज़ सईद, मौलाना इसरार अहमद, मौलाना मसूद अज़हर और उनके समर्थक करते हैं जिसके अनुसार हर ग़ैर-मुसलमान जहन्नम/नर्क की आग में जलेगा और हर इस्लाम छोड़ने वाले को क़त्ल कर देना चाहिए।

इस पूरी वेबसाईट में जहाँ भी ‘क़ुरान’ शब्द प्रयुक्त हुआ है, उसका अर्थ क़ुरान की पुस्तक के वो अनुवाद और व्याख्याएँ हैं जो कट्टर इस्लाम के प्रतिनिधियों द्वारा इंटरनेट और अन्य स्थानों पर प्रचारित-प्रसारित की जाती हैं जिन्हें पढ़कर कमज़ोर दिल के लोग कट्टरता की दिशा में मुड़ रहे हैं। हम जानते हैं कि क़ुरान व उपरिलिखित शब्दों की कुछ व्याख्याएँ ऐसी भी हैं जो हिंसा को आज के दिन ठीक नहीं समझतीं, एवं ग़ैरमज़हबी मानवता पर बल देती है पर ऐसी व्याख्याएँ और व्याख्याता कट्टर इस्लाम के प्रतिनिधियों और उनके अनुयायियों की दृष्टि में मुर्तद (मुसलमान जिसने इस्लाम छोड़ दिया हो) घोषित किए गए हैं। ऐसे व्याख्याता और उनकी व्याख्याएँ इस वेबसाईट के विषय नहीं हैं। चिंता का विषय है कि आज इंटर्नेट आदि माध्यमों में कट्टरवादी व्याख्याओं का बाहुल्य है एवं उदारवादी सहिष्णु व्याख्याएँ दुष्प्राप्य हैं।

हम मानते हैं कि मूल इस्लाम, पैग़म्बर, क़ुरान आदि बहुत प्रेम और आनंद सिखाते होंगे। परंतु इस वेबसाईट में इन शब्दों से केवल वो अर्थ लिए जाएँ जो नवीन लोगों ने अपने हिसाब से अपने मिलावटी ग्रंथ/अनुवाद बना लिए हैं। हम इन मिलावटी ग्रंथों/अनुवादों को ठीक नहीं मानते और हमारी इस्लाम, पैग़म्बर या क़ुरान आदि विषयों की व्याख्या को आज के कट्टरवादी प्रचलित/मिलावटी अनुवादों के संदर्भ में ही लिया जाए। हमारी कोई बात मूल इस्लाम, पैग़म्बर और क़ुरान के लिए नहीं है। उसके लिए तो बस सम्मान है।

किसी भी व्यक्ति, समुदाय, उदारवादी विचारधारा की भावना को ठेस पहुँचाना इस वेबसाईट का उद्देश्य नहीं है। किंतु विषय गम्भीर है, संवेदनशील है। प्रचारित इतिहास पर प्रश्नचिन्ह उठाता है। कुछ स्थानों पर एतिहासिक विषयों को नाटकीय रूप में भी प्रस्तुत किया गया है। अतः यह निवेदन है कि यदि इन विषयों को लेकर आप किंचित भी संवेदनशील है तो इस वेबसाईट को आगे न पढ़ें। यह वेबसाईट केवल परिपक्व मनस हेतु है जो इस अस्वीकरण को ध्यान रखते हुए, हमारी मूल भावना का सम्मान करते हुए, हमारे सृजनात्मक अभिव्यक्ति के अधिकार को अंगीकार कर सकें।

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The last 2 months have been among the most eventful in history of Indian news. India seems to have finally woken up to the cause of elimination of corruption. Each day in last 2 months was like a new twist in the novel. And yet Agniveer site was oddly completely silent during this entire period.

There have been speculations and concerns regarding Agniveer’s silence. We are indeed thankful to all our patrons for their affection. We want to announce that Agniveer is back in visible action.

The apparent break of last two months had several compelling reasons. The first and foremost was the need to perform a self-audit. Often we get swayed in preaching others and lose track of the proportion of that preach which translates into our own way of life. It is easy to get distracted and transform oneself into yet another showman who may earn a lot of reputation and respect, but lags far behind in genuine action and own spiritual development.

We believe in Vedic philosophy of knowledge-action-contemplation triad in order to achieve the Supreme – the ultimate goal of our life. In the last 2 months, we were performing an alignment between the three with specific focus on the third leg. And we return much more invigorated and clear of our future directions. Much more humble, much more honest and much more aware of our own follies. We return much more surer that our efforts would be much more genuine and intentions even nobler.

A second purpose – which was in reality an extension of the previous reason – was to pave foundation for ground-level concrete actions for Vedic transformation of society. Internet is truly an effective medium but there is a huge world beyond internet that also deserves our focus. To reach out to the masses, we need system, processes, resources and work plan. We do not want to reach out as yet another organization that starts with a noble purpose and then becomes a prisoner of its own cage. For various reasons, the original vision is lost, short term profits and fame become primary goal, you gradually get more and more distracted and soon what is left is a caricature of the original mission. This is the irony affecting almost all large social/ spiritual organizations of today. The goal of Agniveer is not to create yet another structure with similar destiny. Its purpose is to permeate across all structures like Agni and perform the Ahuti that brings bliss to all.

All this requires significant planning, especially in earlier stages. To grow big and powerful is not difficult. To ensure that Vedic vision gets more and more clear in this growth is the real challenge. This was an underlying theme of our activities of last 2 months.

Of course Agniveer team could not have remained passive in the last 2 months of crusade against corruption. This also took significant time and energy specially because our overriding priorities dictated us to do so silently considering the larger goals.

The results of this 2 months of Tapasya have been very encouraging. There is still some basic homework to complete before mission proceeds in a streamlined fashion. However we want to assure our patrons that we are very much in action and much more prepared to achieve our collective goal.

We shall be resuming content generation in next few days. And very soon we shall be working in full throttle on internet as well as among masses. We would be soon sharing our plans and activities to enhance the throttle further through your proactive participation.

We thank you all for your blessings.

O Lord of the Universe! May all vices be eradicated and we achieve whatever is noble and pure!

Read Post Disclaimer

It is possible that this post is based on the translations and commentaries of Islamic texts like Quran, Hadiths etc. as published by all major Islamic publishing sources. These are the publicly available translations that are used for promotion of Islam by prominent representatives.

We, however, believe that most of these texts have been wrongly translated, misinterpreted, misquoted or even have been tampered with and interpolated to suit the selfish designs of proponents of Islam after Muhammad. Thus, we believe that original Islam and original Quran of Muhammad are totally different from what have been propagated by his followers in name of Islam. There are few minority groups in Muslims whose scholars subscribe to our views and interpret/translate Islamic texts differently or even refuse to consider the available Quran and Hadiths as authentic. But these scholars themselves are considered Kafirs and are condemned by a dominant elite group of Islam. Thus, when we refer to Islam, we actually imply these dominant elites of Islam and not Muslims or all Islamic scholars in general.

Wherever we critically evaluate Muhammad, we imply the fictitious Muhammad propagated by these false texts or their wrong translations and not the original Muhammad. We have high regard for original Muhammad who stood for non-violence and tolerance. Similarly, when we analyze Islamic texts, we refer to these questionable translations/versions and NOT original texts.

Further, we have a sense of the highest level of brotherhood for Muslims in general. Wherever we use the word Muslim in a critical manner, it refers to false representatives of Islam and not Muslims in general. Readers are requested to keep this in mind to understand the correct perspective of such posts on this website.

Nowhere should they assume the words like Islam, Quran, Prophet etc. to be referring to original noble entities, unless it has been referred in a positive light. We restrict ourselves only to notions prevalent in minds of fanatics and those without reason.

अस्वीकरण पढ़ें

इस पूरी वेबसाईट में जहाँ भी ‘इस्लाम’ वा ‘मुसलमान’ वा पैग़म्बर आदि मज़हबी शब्दों का प्रयोग हुआ है, उसका अर्थ केवल और केवल इस्लाम वा मुसलमान वा पैग़म्बर आदि शब्दों की वह व्याख्या है जो कट्टर इस्लाम के मशहूर और लोकप्रिय प्रचारक जैसे - ज़ाकिर नाईक़, अंजम चौधरी, हाफ़िज़ सईद, मौलाना इसरार अहमद, मौलाना मसूद अज़हर और उनके समर्थक करते हैं जिसके अनुसार हर ग़ैर-मुसलमान जहन्नम/नर्क की आग में जलेगा और हर इस्लाम छोड़ने वाले को क़त्ल कर देना चाहिए।

इस पूरी वेबसाईट में जहाँ भी ‘क़ुरान’ शब्द प्रयुक्त हुआ है, उसका अर्थ क़ुरान की पुस्तक के वो अनुवाद और व्याख्याएँ हैं जो कट्टर इस्लाम के प्रतिनिधियों द्वारा इंटरनेट और अन्य स्थानों पर प्रचारित-प्रसारित की जाती हैं जिन्हें पढ़कर कमज़ोर दिल के लोग कट्टरता की दिशा में मुड़ रहे हैं। हम जानते हैं कि क़ुरान व उपरिलिखित शब्दों की कुछ व्याख्याएँ ऐसी भी हैं जो हिंसा को आज के दिन ठीक नहीं समझतीं, एवं ग़ैरमज़हबी मानवता पर बल देती है पर ऐसी व्याख्याएँ और व्याख्याता कट्टर इस्लाम के प्रतिनिधियों और उनके अनुयायियों की दृष्टि में मुर्तद (मुसलमान जिसने इस्लाम छोड़ दिया हो) घोषित किए गए हैं। ऐसे व्याख्याता और उनकी व्याख्याएँ इस वेबसाईट के विषय नहीं हैं। चिंता का विषय है कि आज इंटर्नेट आदि माध्यमों में कट्टरवादी व्याख्याओं का बाहुल्य है एवं उदारवादी सहिष्णु व्याख्याएँ दुष्प्राप्य हैं।

हम मानते हैं कि मूल इस्लाम, पैग़म्बर, क़ुरान आदि बहुत प्रेम और आनंद सिखाते होंगे। परंतु इस वेबसाईट में इन शब्दों से केवल वो अर्थ लिए जाएँ जो नवीन लोगों ने अपने हिसाब से अपने मिलावटी ग्रंथ/अनुवाद बना लिए हैं। हम इन मिलावटी ग्रंथों/अनुवादों को ठीक नहीं मानते और हमारी इस्लाम, पैग़म्बर या क़ुरान आदि विषयों की व्याख्या को आज के कट्टरवादी प्रचलित/मिलावटी अनुवादों के संदर्भ में ही लिया जाए। हमारी कोई बात मूल इस्लाम, पैग़म्बर और क़ुरान के लिए नहीं है। उसके लिए तो बस सम्मान है।

किसी भी व्यक्ति, समुदाय, उदारवादी विचारधारा की भावना को ठेस पहुँचाना इस वेबसाईट का उद्देश्य नहीं है। किंतु विषय गम्भीर है, संवेदनशील है। प्रचारित इतिहास पर प्रश्नचिन्ह उठाता है। कुछ स्थानों पर एतिहासिक विषयों को नाटकीय रूप में भी प्रस्तुत किया गया है। अतः यह निवेदन है कि यदि इन विषयों को लेकर आप किंचित भी संवेदनशील है तो इस वेबसाईट को आगे न पढ़ें। यह वेबसाईट केवल परिपक्व मनस हेतु है जो इस अस्वीकरण को ध्यान रखते हुए, हमारी मूल भावना का सम्मान करते हुए, हमारे सृजनात्मक अभिव्यक्ति के अधिकार को अंगीकार कर सकें।

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230 COMMENTS

  1. I CAN GIVE YOU NAMES OF SOFTWARES TO CAPTURE AURAS …….I KNOW PEOLOPE WHO CAN STRAIGHTWAY DOWNLOAD CALCIUM PLATELETS FROM THE UNIVERSE.MY GURU IS A BUDDHIST……………….

    I CAN GIVE YOU LINKS TO GET INITIATIONS FROM ALL THE ARCHANGELS AND THEIR CONNECTIONS TO THE HINDU SYSTEM

    FOR EXAMPLE THE ARCHANGEL METATRON IS SAME AS THAT OF CHITRAGUPT ETC ETC

  2. @SPIRIT

    YOU POKED YOUR NOSE IN THE MIDDLE AND NOW YOU ACT LIKE A SAINT. GR8 I DONT WANT TO DEBATE?????????????????? , WHAT WILL I GAIN BY DEBATING???????????????? SUDDENLY YOUR HIGHER SELF HAS AWAKENED. WHY THE HELL DID YOU POKE YOUR NOSE IN BETWEEN WHEN YOU DIDNT WANT TO DO ANYTHING

    • Brother Original

      I poked my nose, legs, eyes, ears, hands, everything. Now get me out of here 🙂 Now you are tempting me to have debate with you. If you really want it I can. But in which matter we shall debate????
      1.God being formless???
      2. Krsna God???.
      3. God doesnot incarnate?????
      or something else.

      First do clarify your position. Then brother surely we will have a discussion rather than a debate.
      Dhanyawad

  3. @orginal shiva
    U don’t know anything….u don’t even know the spelling of ISKCON then how can u comment on it.
    And about ur philosophers western gurus….bcoz of them only today the condition of sprituallity is so bad. When they wanted to rule india they started to missinterpret the vedic scriptures.

  4. Pranam Brother Orginial.thankfully It was you by whom I came to kno that i kno Vishal brother. I also do kno u. U r a spirit soul not this material body. U r eternal. U r spark of that big fire. Do u wish to kno more abt urself? Now u hav said about iscon. Brother for ur kind information i dnt folow iskcon. I follow achary sri pravupada. ………..u raised a fact sum swami has interpreted vagwatam in a spiritual way and pravupada has in fundamental way. Can i ask what is difference between fundamental way and spiritual way? Fundamental means basical. So acharya has interpreted in Vedic way, hasnt he? So it is a spiritual way, i guess. So it is now revealed that u claim only foolish facts/qustions which dont deserve answer. Next tym i wont answer. Dhanyawad

  5. TRUTH IS SO COMPLICATED THAT YOGIS ARE MEDITATINGFOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS AND AND MAHAVTAR BABA IS ONE OF THEM,BESIDES THERE ARE MANY IN SHAMBALLA,/SIDDHASHRAM/GYAN GANJJJJJJJJJJJJJ

    THERE ARE SO MANY PATHS
    YOU THINK AYBODY COULD GIVE 100 % TRUE PICTURE OF TRUTH .WHY IS THERE SO MANY DIFFERNCES IN EACH PATH(CERTAINLY THE DESTINATION IS SAME )

    KEEP YOUR MINDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD OPEN TO IT THEN YOU WILL FIND IT

    (THERE ARE 100 REASONS TO SHOW GOD EXSITS BUT THERE ARE EVEN 100 REASONS TO SHOW WHY HE DOESNOT EXSIST(THOUGH ALL THE BRANCHES OF SPIRITUALITY SHOWS THAT NATURAL LAWS EXSISTS INCLUDING KARMIC LAWS)

    SPIRITUAL TRUTH IS NOT AS SIMPLE AS GRAVITAION FOR EXAMPLE .OTHERWISE THE 60%POPLUATION OF OUR COUNTRY WOULD NOT BE SUFFERING SO BADLY.IF KRISHNA /SHIVA ALONE IS THE ANSWER DONT BOTHER DEBATING ME BUT ASK YOURSELF WHY DOES HE NOT END THIER PATHETIC DISMAL SUFFERING

  6. Brother orginial. Gr8. If u keep caps lock off it doesnt hurt. Nevertheless, u alwayz want debate. I also wanted so. But i realised that in debates people can give false arguments and thus deprives of the truth. Which I dont want. But a discussion can certainly help us seek truth. Ok brother. Good night. May God bless u. Dhanyawad.

  7. @ VISHAL

    NAME ONE HEALING SYSTEM REAVELED BY INDIANS NOW.ALL THE KNOWLEDGE THE WEST IS GIVING US.EVEN IT HURTS ME WHEN THE WESTERENERS DO THAT BUT THE KNOWLEDGE IS SIMPLY OUR OWN

    AND IN THE WEST IT HAS BECIME A MULTI BILLION INDUSTRY I.E INDUSTRY

    FROM REIKI TO PRANIC , TO THETA EVERYTHING IS REVEALED BY WEST THOUGH THE KNOWLEGE COMES FROM VEDAS

    AND ABOVE THAT THERE ARE SITES , BLOGS THAT MALIGN EACH AND EVERY INDIAN GURU

    SO ITS THE FAULT OF WHOM////////////////////////////////////??????????????????

  9. GOOD NIGHT .ANYWAYS IT MAKES NO DIFFERNCE IF YOU CAN TOLERATE ME OR NOT

    YOU ARE A TAQIYA BOMB OR MOREOVER AN EMPTY VESSEL MAKING A LOT OF NOISE…

    NEXT TIME DONT DROP ANY TAQIYA BOMBS FURTHER BEACUSE THAT IRRITATES ME

    GOOD NIGHT

    • @Spirit/Vishal/Vajra/KB/Shiva/others
      I have query, we say God is perfect & absolute. Here question arise, Is perfect & absolute changeable? Please write your views.

      • @TS:

        Here question arise, Is perfect & absolute changeable?

        I am unsure I fully understand your question. I will provide my thoughts on “Why if God is Perfect and Absolute, was there creation at all”? [Thats my understanding of your question]

        According to Advaita, there are two levels of reality – Vyavaharika [empirical reality] and Paramartha [absolute reality]. The Jivas are at the Vyavaharika level. Once the Jivas realize that they are nothing but Brahman, they attain the state of Jivanmukta…No further Karma accrues to the Jiva. The Jiva sheds its body at death and attains Moksha. Creation, destruction, preservation, Rama, Krishna, Brahma are active only at the Vyavaharika level. Once one transcendes the world of duality, one attains oneness with the non-dual absolute Brahman which is pure consciousness.

        VA and Dvaita believe that the empirical world is REAL. Creation is real and at the end of Pralaya God, Ishwar, Narayana, Mahapurusha, Vishnu sets in motion another cycle of creation based on the Karma of souls.

        In both cases God is absolute. God is pure consciousness in Advaita. God is an entity WITH attributes of love, compassion, grace in the case of VA and Dvaita.

        Islam and Christianity, if they could be absorbed into Hinduism would fall under the VA/Dvaita schools.

  10. @KB/Vajra
    My question was, suppose I say one is perfect as one looks. but If I suggest something more or expect more from one to be look batter that means we can not say one is perfect because there is possibilities of change in one’s looks to be batter. It was just example. Now, I come to point If we say god is perfect but which god is perfect formless or formfull. If god changes himself from formless to formful, can we say he/she is perfect because he/she requires to change. & Changeable entity can not be perfect as I think. God always maintains one(1) identity. it is up to us in which we believe. But both can not be true if someone says God is both, I think he/she is hypocrite if says God is both formless & formfull. Please correct if I am wrong.

    • @TS:

      Your point is that if God changes, God cannot be perfect. If God has a wish, God cannot be perfect because he is blissful [without any desire]. To have any desire would mean to be imperfect because God doesnt have something. Is that right?

      Advaita answers this as Nirguna Brahman vs Saguna Brahman. Saguna Brahman is to help folks obtain an object of worship which can be endowed with infinite auspicious qualities. Rama, Krishna, Shiva, Brahma, Vishnu are Saguna Brahman.

      Nirguna Brahman is anirvachaniya [cannot be described by words]. Nirguna Brahman is formless. Nirguna Brahman does not have any desire. It just is…pure Being, no becoming. No cause, no effect, it just is…Nothing more can be said about it. I suggest Ashtavakra Gita [which is an Advaita classic] if you would like to study more of one can approach Nirguna Brahman.

      Whether a formful God or a formless God is better cannot be objectively decided. It is upto the individual. Ramanuja [the mathematician] used to say that his Ishta Daivata used to come in his dreams to provide him with some proofs from Number Theory. Can you and I deride that? Each individual finds himself in different stages of the reincarnation cycle. For a farmer, rain is God. For a hungry man, food is God. The perception of the Divine is unique to each individual. Trying to impose one’s perception of the Divine on another is the way Islam/Xity operate, not Sanatana Dharma.

      • @KalBhairav
        If God have form, Why Veda does not mention it, (Veda )knowledge direct emanates from supreme spirit & all legends have given authority to Veda. There are several Mantra in Veda which say God is formless & unchangeable. But I have not seen any mantra till now which says God formfull/incarnate. If God incarnate such important thing must have mention in Veda. What do you think?

      • You are correct. Different schools of thoughts accept different scriptures. Advaita doesnt accept the Puranas while Dvaita probably does.

    • Pranam Brother Truth seeker
      ——–it is up to us in which we believe. But both can not be true if someone says God is both, I think he/she is hypocrite if says God is both formless & formful. Please correct if I am wrong——-

      Brother be confident. It is not not that truth needs anybody’s acceptance. For instance if I don’t believe that the earth moves round the sun it is not that the truth would change with respect to my views, is it?

      And brother God is not formless. Where you worship the formless Eshvar it is nothing but ” Brahmayoti”(ie rays of God). God is the supreme Brahman. Where did you find that God is formless? In vedas??? Can you please show me a mantra describing Lord as formless???
      You can worship the shapeless Brahmin, no problem. But brother remember that the rays are not God. Shapeless God is not the complete study of Supreme Brahmin. Afterall the rays cannot become the source. But you can worship shapeless Brahmin. No problem.
      Dhanyawad

  11. @ truth seeker

    this is my view only .i dont know if you support it

    first god doesnot incarnate.according to me there are various means of reahing it and any incarnation theorey is just a philosophy.

    but most importantly rama and krishna are supreme conciousness state of yourself(the infinite universal all pervading concioussness). paramatma i.e supreme state of your atma

    and these idols were given to us from above and each has a divine cosmic meaning

    so according to me giving the cosmic meaning of each idol is describing cheaply a mother loving a child as something say that transaction of energy is taking by her heart chakra and delimiting the whole thing

    these idols were given to us by the universe

    • Pranam Brother Original

      ——first god doesnot incarnate..———–

      what a stupid thought! 🙁 . Why God doesn’t incarnate? Is Krishna not God?

      ———according to me there are various means of reaching it and any incarnation theorey is just a philosophy———–

      It is not that you would reach moon if you start a journey to mars. You need to find the specific ways to reach God. Don’t you agree?. Why incarnation theory would be a philosophy just?

      ——but most importantly rama and krishna are supreme conciousness state of yourself(the infinite universal all pervading concioussness). paramatma i.e supreme state of your atma———

      Where did you get this? 🙂 You cannot say that a drop will become ocean by some means. A spark is not the big fire. Both the instance have some unlike relation that we (souls) have with God. You cannot become God anyhow.

      At some point you said that why I am poking my nose here. I am letting you know that I am not only poking my nose here but also legs, arms, eyes, ears …….whole body.

      You sound very unlike to Vedas. This is not something that we want.

      ——-so according to me giving the cosmic meaning of each idol is describing cheaply a mother loving a child as something say that transaction of energy is taking by her heart chakra and delimiting the whole thing——–

      No problem if you have different definitions with others. But you don’t have the rights to condemn truth and other followers.

      ——–the idols were give us by the universe——

      A fool was also given to us by the universe. 😉
      Dhanyawad

  12. hinduism says brahma created everything which is not possible bcause atman is ajar and amar so how can someone create the uncreated allpresent. moreover its got more to do with time as in higher dimensions time ceases to exsist and about the non linearity of the expanding time(personalyy even i dont understand these complicated theories)

    if brahma created everything then at the persent of time everything had to be perfect

    soooooooooooooooooooooo

    dont bother to find answers to such questions beacuse nobody can really give the correct answer .even lord budhha shri shri ,many saints couldnot give the answer .lord buddha used to keep quiet when asked about how and when this universe originated

    • Brother Original

      —–hinduism says brahma created everything which is not possible bcause atman is ajar and amar so how can someone create the uncreated allpresent.——-

      Such a baseless comment was raise by you. 🙂
      Lets emphasize on the truth. Brahma was originated from the navel of Lord Vishnu. By the order of Lord Brahma started creation. First he made his sons (not by sex). They were asked to do the deeds of a general persons. But they refused to do so. they concentrated on the worshiping of Lord Vishnu. Finally Brahma created Adi Manu and Shatarupa. And the universe started to expand.

      Now emphasize on your claim “Brahma cannot create souls”. Brother totally agreed with you at this point. But who said you that Brahma created souls. Souls are the sparks of that Big Fire (Eshvar). How Brahma created it?

      The supreme Brahmin stays in every living entity’s’ heart.

      Srimad Bhagvad Gita (verse and chapter I can’t remember, but if you suspect I can clear it other day)

      ” Eshvar sarbaBhutanam Hriddheshe Harjuna Tishthati”

      and if your intelligence has not been hacked by the ingnorance you can realise the fact that Supreme Brahman stays in every heart. So there is nothing about Brahma creating aatma. 🙁 🙁

      Dhanyawad

  13. you are connected to your infinite via the pineal gland(third eye chakra)i.e the spiritual chord is coonected to your higher self which is coonected to the univerasl higher self(god).it is here at this dimension that whole philosohy about dvaita and advaita starts.this is the seventh plane of unconditional love above natural laws dimension i.e the sixth plane.

    and this is the seventh plane islam refers to where allah is

  15. KB, I would not be surprised if Vishal retorted Atat Tvam Asi 🙂 I have been following and learning quite a bit from these discussions. At least we do not have to worry about apostasy and the following punishment,when opposing viewpoints are discussed within the ambit of Hindu philosophical systems 🙂

    • @AR:

      You’ve hit it on the head. Any philosophy with as diverse a base as Hinduism is bound to have differences of opinion. Thankfully, we can resolve it via dialogue or if the differences are irreconcileable we just live and let live. Advaitins dont want to break away and create a separate country, nor do Dvaitins want to evict Advaitins from their midst…In ANY case, all philosophy/metaphysics, etc. of ALL schools of thought [Hindu/Buddhist, etc.] are ultimately unverifiable. It is FAITH and belief. But the Momins/Xians take it to unbelieveably stupid levels by having punishment for apostasy, nationhood on the basis of religion, etc. 🙁

    • Pranam Brother Apple

      ———I have been following and learning quite a bit from these discussions——

      You better do. Wisdom is for everyone.

      ——-At least we do not have to worry about apostasy and the following punishment,when opposing viewpoints are discussed within the ambit of Hindu philosophical systems——–

      Do we need to worry? What is apostasy? If you want to become an apostate at first you need to have a faith in a religion. Don’t you? It seems……

  16. @ Origina Shiva, I did not understand what you meant by Ram and Krishna as being idols given by this Universe to people. When one reads Chandogya Upanishad, Krishna (son of Devaki) and Dridharashtra are spoken about in a relative contemporary sense (to that Upanishad). Please explain what you meant. I did not understand.

  17. I received below email asking some question.

    “I have some unanswered questions in my mind as regards the Anna’s movement. Will some body try to give me satisfactory answers?

    1. Most of Bharatiyas came to know Annaji on 27th February in the rally organised by Baba Ramdev. In the rally there was a huge crowd of about 2 lacs. In the rally Baba Ramdev declared to start a fast for black money on June 4. In the rally Annaji did not speak anything about Lokpal bill. Why was it that Annaji started a fast for Lokpal Bill on 5th April. Why did he not consult Baba so that they could unitedly fight corruption and both the issues could be projected simultaneously. Why did Congress yielded so quickly to include Anna’s team to drafting committee of Lokpal Bill?

    2. Desh Bandhu Gupta alleged that Annaji took donations of 75 crore from a person very close to Kapil Sibbal for running the agitation. Annaji never refuted it. Why?

    3. Why was the electronic media in the forefront of the Anna’s movement unlike the past as in case of Ramdev’s movement? Every body knows that nearly all the electronic medias are run by the foreign missionaries.

    4. Annaji spoke during the fast that the beauty of his movement is that it is not associated with any religion. Sri Arbind Kejriwal told that we decided not to allow communal and political persons on the dais. Then how come that ifter was organised on the dais of fasting, where muslims openly demonstrated their separate identity by putting on the skull caps and taking beef on the dais in full view of the cameras? Why were they allowed to relish foods on the dais where a 74 year old man was fasting for long? Why Sayed Sahabuddin, an out and out communal fanatic muslim, who publishes a magazine named Muslim India, and who as the chairmen of Muslim Personal Law Board is fighting against the construction of Ram Mandir, was allowed to the dais? And why Annaji choose a muslim girl to terminate his fast? Why did Annaji choose to glorify Islam through his movement when the whole mankind…

  18. परिणामतापसंस्कार दुःखैर्गुणवृत्तिविरोधाच्च दुःखमेव सर्व विवेकिनः।
    क्या आप लोगो ने इस सूत्र का अनुभव कभी किया है?

  19. @ spirit

    after 4 days you came back to have a debate and respond to posts with full anger and tenacity,that day you were not so charged up but today whattttttttttt happened ……………….

    so you are filled with anger ……………………calmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm downnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.

    be happy man

  20. @ spirit

    your questons are more of a comedy just like visals so ask some serious questions and good ones that are worth debating………

    if i ask you mars main kalkattiya pan milta hai ki banarasi to iska answer aap kya doge

  22. ma vishal see how he is vennting out his anger for no damn reason…………

    first of all mr SPIRIT HAS A VERRRRRRRRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY BAD HABIT OF POKING HIS NOSE……………….

    MR APPOLO REACH HAD VAJRAS ,KB, MY OPINION .SO I REPLIED

    MOST IMPORTANTLY IIIIIIIIII IN THE STARINNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG OF MY POST REPLIED SAYING THIS IS MY OPINION AND NOT THE WORD OF GOD. EVEN WHEN QUOTED ME JUSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT SEEEEEEEEEE .IN MY POST IT IS WRITTEN IT IS MYOPINION SOOOOOOOOOO WHYYYYYYYYYY THE HELLLLLLLLLLLLL IS HEEEEEEEE TALKINGGGGGGGGGGGGG SO RUDELY .LET HIM SEE MY DISCUSSIONS WITH THE MUZZIES AND HE WILL SEE HOW THE HELL CAN I DEBATEEEEEEEEEE.

    SO MR VISHAL WHO NEEDS TO GROW UP. I HAVE MY OPINION AND I DIDNT SAY EVEN THAT DAY THAT IAM GOD ALMIGHTY OR A BUDDHA OR ARIHANT. I KKEP MY OPINION YOU AGREE GOOD AND DONT THEN ALSO GOOD

  26. mr vishal
    .and now i am confirmed to debate you did a research work on a foreigner . i alredy know the links you mentioned ……………
    first read the bhagwatam by swami argarananda

    just for a change if you wish listen to discourses by swami sukhbodanda ,shri shri etc .they have a standard crowd and the latter is my favourite as he is very specific about quotations from shastras and vedas and a very high educated mass follows him………………………………

    read the interpretation of mahamantra by icon/iskon you will understand

    • Pranam Brother Original

      As mentioned earlier I have poked my nose, legs, eyes,ears, hands everything. You can refute me if you wish. But brother I am not here to debate with you. I just asked for a healthy discussion. Whats your problem there? 🙁
      Brother was Srimad Bhagwatam compiled by Swami Agranand?? For your kind information that Purana was compiled by Sri Sri Krsna Dwaipayana Vyasdev himself.

      You said that I am in anger. Not that brother. I am in hurry. Because my exam is going on. I will be here just after my exam.

  30. so just think over why is it named iskon and not reaching krishna or contacting krishna if krishna is personified god. but why the name is int soc for krishna conciousness , because it is the state of your supreme conciousness ,

    though reaching and completely defining it is not possible because it is like quantifying infinity

    i know you are a iskon vadi,i could make it out when you disrespected other gods to show krishna is the greatest and all this fundamentalist gyan comes only from iskon.they also rate lord ram as an inferior god .i dont want to go into deep in all this

    all i want to say is have an open mind

    because i personally prefer shaivism school of thought to advaitwadi .and shiva is my preference of connecting to god as yours is krishna.

    but dont fall in the circle of who is more powerful

    • Brother Original
      Krsna is has not been personified God ……….. He is God.

      ——-though reaching and completely defining it is not possible because it is like quantifying infinity———-
      what are talking about??

      ———i know you are a iskon vadi,i could make it out when you disrespected other gods to show krishna is the greatest and all this fundamentalist gyan comes only from iskon.they also rate lord ram as an inferior god .i dont want to go into deep in all this———-
      Brother we are not iskcon vadi. We believe in Krishna. But you can say that my (I don’t know whether Brother Vishal is also) spiritual master Srila A.C. Prabhupada. Who told you that we disobey demigods??? I do fast on Shivratri. I can assure you that I worship Sri Shiva more than you. I can sacrifice anything for Shiva. I love him after my Lord.
      Brother one thing I love Krishna not because of his greatest power. I just love him without any cause. Where we have said that all the fundamental knowledge comes from iskcon??? Iskcon has just been formed about 40 yrs ago. Sri Ram is none other than Sri Krishna. Sorry to say only fools (like you) differentiate between Sri Ram and Sri Krishna.

      ——-all i want to say is have an open mind——-our mind are door-closed????

      —–because i personally prefer shaivism school of thought to advaitwadi .and shiva is my preference of connecting to god as yours is krishna.——– You are always welcome for being Shaiva. Not only Shiva is connecting to God (but not God) but everyone is connected to God.

      Dhanyawad

  31. so if god is not personal then what about lord Shiva he is also personal. And moreover lord shiva is the greatest vaishnawa that means he is the greatest devotee of lord Krishna. ”vaishnwam yatha shambhu” it is given in padmapuran. But i don’t no verse no. If i get then i will tell.

  32. @original shiva.
    it is given in bhagwat puran… u must read SB 8.7 chapter specialy the SB 8.7.39 verse
    I will also provide u link.

    srimadbhagavatam.com/8/7/en

    srimadbhagavatam.com/8/7/39/en

  34. @spirit
    you are a fool of the highest order and a moron and that is why iam not even responding to a supid fool like you. cant you see that .you fool ihave not differntiated between ram and krishna its the iskon which does it

  35. @ spirit
    you in your earlier post said that you said that god resides in our heart .its stated in bhagwatam buttttttttttttttttt you dont remember theeeeee lineeeeeeeeeeeeee numberrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

    you moronic idiot (sorry but you continuosly used the slang)do you understand english .read the post about the seventh plane .i had the same thing with reference to actual sprirtual science

    but a moron like you will not understand ……………..so i dont want to discuss anything with you………………………

    come up with something substantial……..then i will think about discussing anything

    its up to you wether you think if am knowledegable or a ganwar ……….its up to you and i dont want to cross your thinking

    • Pranam Brother Original

      ——you in your earlier post said that you said that god resides in our heart .its stated in bhagwatam buttttttttttttttttt you dont remember theeeeee lineeeeeeeeeeeeee numberrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.———–

      You are suggested to go through my post. I did not say that it was in Sri Bhagvatam. It was in Srimad Bhagvad Gita.

      ——you moronic idiot (sorry but you continuosly used the slang)do you understand english .read the post about the seventh plane .i had the same thing with reference to actual sprirtual science————
      Brother I do understand English a little bit. Which seventh plane are you talking about?? If God resides in our heart does that mean we have become God????? Very stupid concept 🙁 🙁
      ——-but a moron like you will not understand ……………..so i dont want to discuss anything with you—–
      Now I am suspecting You are a jihadi 😉 and talking about some Lohe Mehfooz and sealing my heart with ignorance. Aren’t you??????? Very very illusive..
      But you are always greeted for calling my back names.

      ——–come up with something substantial……..then i will think about discussing anything

      its up to you wether you think if am knowledegable or a ganwar ————
      Perhaps u own Large amount of ignorance but brother I don’t. I thought You were knoledegebl………but now brother I am in great dilemma.
      —–its up to you and i dont want to cross your thinking——
      great. Great. A big round of applaud please!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please refute me by logic not something saying that my heart is sealed for truth or fate predestined in a book 🙂 🙂 Not to be angry brother. And do not tease Brother Vishal……….. Bring all your anger towards me not him….

      Dhanyawad

  36. pure devotees like Prahlada Maharaja and Srila Prabhupada can call people fools or anything else and that
    would please Krsna and even Shiva. We should know we are still
    conditioned souls with the 4 defects so we
    can not have the right to call people fools. Who are we to judge anyone? Yamaraja
    is there to judge everyone. We should learn to
    find faults within ourselves. We don’t want to
    critisize anyone rather we want to encourage
    even the most sinful people to take to Krsna
    consciousness. Lord Caitanya says give all respects to others and expect none in return for
    yourself. We want to try and cultivate that mood
    in Krsna consciousness. so i think u must addmit sorry to bro sprit.

    • @Vishal/Spirit/ Faizi & All Must Read to know
      What was Allah doing before universe creation?
      Vedic Response:-
      The creation is eternal and automatic. There is no date of creation of the following: (A) Almighty Allah who is alive, immortal, formless, creates, nurses and destroys the universe. He never indulges in any maya, mahamaya, illusion and deeds (good or bad. Yajurveda Mantra 40/8 and Yog shastra Sutra 1/26 also refer)

      (B) Soul: Soul is alive, the purest, away from sins etc. but illusion covers the soul due to which soul forgets his original form and hence remains in sorrows, problems etc.

      C) Prakriti: Non-alive and has three qualities. i.e., Raj, tam, Satva. At a proper time, the power of God acts in prakriti and the universe is created. So the creation is eternal and automatic.

      Vedas tell that there are three eternal/immortal matters- first: Almighty Allah, second: souls, third: prakriti. Almighty God creates, nurses and destroys the universe and again creates it. The said process of creation is eternal/immortal/everlasting. Almighty God creates the universe from prakriti. When the raj, tam and satva gunnas of prakriti remain idle (dormant condition/inactive) then creation does not take place. At an appropriate time, a power of Almighty God acts in prakriti (i.e., in Raj, tam and satva gunnas). Immediately the process of creation starts and the first matter of prakriti is made which is called –Mahat i.e., mind; from Mahat- ahankar is made, from ahankar panch (5) tan matrayein, from panch (5) tanmatrayein, panch (5) mahabhoot are created. From panch mahabhoot, the entire matter of universe i.e., Sun, Moon air, water , our bodies, bodies of other living beings etc., are created. The whole creation is thus created from prakriti and remains still (in active) like a statue. This creation is called non-sexual creation. In the said creation, the young human bodies are created which are neither old nor babies. Then by the power of Allah, in the said bodies, breathing system (prann vaayu) starts…

    • @Vishal/Spirit/ Faizi & All Must Read to know
      Con…………..
      starts operating. At last, God enters into the universe and immediately all the humans and other living beings become alive and start functioning. Similarly, the non-alive matters like Sun, moon, earth, air, water etc., start their respective functions.

      Creation, Science, worldly matters etc., is not possible until the same is created by someone. Secondly, knowledge is attained when knowledge is imparted by someone.

      Rigveda mantra 10/129/ 1-6 throw light about creation that at that time, there was nothing and no living beings did exist. So there was no learned acharya who could give the knowledge to the newly created living beings like parents who educate the children to make them able to speak language and to know about the matters like crow, animals, chapati, ghee, sun, moon i.e., all matters of the world. See, if a newly born baby is managed to live in dense jungle and nursed well but he is not given education about the worldly matters etc. i.e., mathematics, science, animals, sun, moon etc., then even at the young age of 20-25, 30 years, he will not be able to speak any language and when he will be brought out of the cave of dense jungle and will be asked about the sun, moon, animals, birds before him, then he will not be able to reply because he was not given the said knowledge.

      When we see towards sun, moon, air, space, human body etc. It is clearly understood that the said creation has not been made by any human being but Almighty God, from whom the knowledge of four Vedas emanates. In Vedas, the knowledge right from straw to Brahma has been mentioned. So in the beginning of non-sexual earth, the Vedas originated in the heart of four rishis: Agni, Vaayu, Aditya and Angira, and from the rishis the knowledge of science, deeds and worship along with every matter is being given to the public by which the public became educated scientist and wrote books, etc.

      In Vedas as well as in fourth chapter of Yog Shastras of Rishi Patanjali,…

      • @Vishal/Spirit/ Faizi & All Must Read to know
        Con…………..
        it is mentioned that those who do not believe in God are provided more and more facilities by nature and such people get spoiled, etc.

        On the contrary those who worship God, they naturally try to kill their desires and accordingly under the law, nature, help them to follow the true path to realize the God.

        It is also pertinent to mention here that in Vedas, there is no mention of avtarwad or any proper noun, please. Vedas do not even contain any story or past, present or future life of anyone. Vedas contain knowledge i.e., entire science, form of deeds/duties and worship of God. Actually Vedas give knowledge right from straw to Brahma (God) of entire universe.

        All four Vedas tell to worship a formless, Almighty, omnipresent, omniscient God who creates, nurses and destroys the universe. God was one, is one and shall ever remain one. He is unchangeable, unchallengeable and beyond description. He has unlimited qualities and thus unlimited names but is one. Because He is Almighty and needs no help of anyone to create, nurse and destroy the universe therefore no need to take avtar.

    • @vishal

      why this biased approach

      while giving him the slags i said that i was sorry read my above post carefully

      spirit used all the slangs previously for no reason and i could have retaliated earlier but i ignored that thrice or four times read spirits post carefully before you preach me

  37. M***** FU**** SPINELESS MANMOHAN SINGH GAVE 600 ACRES OF INDIAN LAND TO BANGLADESH BECAUSE HE SAID MANY ILLEGAL BANGLADESHI MUSLIMS IMMIGRANTS HAVE SETTLED IN ASSAM NOW THEY WILL GIVE MANY PARTS OF WEST BENGAL ALSO TO BANGLADESH. EUNUCH MANMOHAN SINGH IS ALSO GOING TO ALLOW TRAINS FROM BANGLADESH TO DELHI, MAHARASHTRA, SOUTH INDIA WHICH WILL INCREASE BANGLADESHI MUSLIM IMMIGRATION AND TERRORIST ACTIVITIES IN INDIA.

    IF THIS CONTINUES DELHI WILL ALSO BE GIVEN TO BANGLADESH IN PRESENT.

    WIKILEAKS ALSO EXPOSED TRAITOR MANMOHAN SINGH WAS GIVING SIACHEN AND LARGE CHUNKS OF KASHMIR TO PAKISTAN BUT AT THAT TIME MUSHARAF GOVT WAS TOPPLED AND THE DEAL WAS NOT IMPLEMENTED FOR INDIA’S LUCK.

    TRAITOR CONGRESS AND MANMOHAN SINGH ARE GIVING INDIAN TERRITORY AS IF IT IS THEIRS FATHER’S PROPERTY.

    ABHI HINDUON KA KHOON KHOLTA NAHIN TOH WOH KHOON KHOON NAHIN PANI HAIN.

    HINDU BROTHERS IF WE STILL DON’T RISE TRAITORS WILL SELL YOUR MOTHERS AND SISTERS TO PAKIS AND BANGLADESHIS.

  39. Pranam Brother Truthseeker
    My thoughts
    A) Just wipe out the formless. If you do that I agree with you Brother.

    B) You almost stand on this.

    C) I have difference thought in the last line. The creation is not automatic. The creation is not eternal also.

    Your Panchbhoot study is admirable but not the ultimate. The body we are wearing is made from 8 entities. Final three 1. Mon 2. Buddhi 3. Ahamkaar.

    And Brother your distinction between Prakriti and Soul is really praiseworthy. But I want to just add something to that. You can divide the power of God in many views. In some view we can divide His power into 2. One is Para and other is Apara. The living entities is probably (I can’t remeber surely) Para and other is rest.

    Others response I would give you soon.

    Dhanyawad

    • @spirit
      ______The creation is not automatic______

      You are correct. Sorry for wrong word.
      But process of universe creation/destruction eternal & everlasting.

  40. @ spirit

    where did i remove my anger on mr vishal he did not poke his nose in between .neither did he use slangs.

    as far as you are concerned dont think iam knowledegable. when did i tell iam refuting you

    • Pranam Brother Original

      As said earlier I poked my whole body not just nose. “He (brother Vishal) did not use slangs”— you do not need to tell me. The slangs are only coming from you. At first your imginative character sum swami front organ then formless, then some stupid concept (or humorous). So what is my fault????

  41. @spirit

    man you like to create your own fancy imagination. where did i tease vishal.rather whatever view i had i have said everything directly………….

    when he advised me directly(and not poke his nose like you). i asked him the reason for that and explained my position ……… so where did you find i teased him

    • Brother Original

      Do you know the distinction between fancy and imagination???

      —–. where did i tease vishal.rather whatever view i had i have said everything directly—–
      let’s see posts of yours where you said something very directly

      ——- No one is bigger boss than Big Boss 5—— 🙂 🙂
      ——- Swami Agranand described Bhagvatam in a spiritual way where Prabhupada did in fundamental way——— I asked you to see the difference between spiritual and fundamental way. But you did not/
      YOu belive in advaita philosophy and worshiping Shiva??? 🙂 🙂 What a disastrous!!!!!!!!

      So many of your moronic (your word) thoughts you have. We don’t have problem there. But don’t try to impose your idiotic idean on us…

      Dhanyawad.

  42. @spirit

    as far as bringing asnger towards you i had to reply with your slangs………… rest my view towards your philosophy didnot change neither did i tell you to change or not change ur views towards mine……………………iam not intersted in refuting you bcoz i will advise you to go through the above posts and rather i am saying the same as you but you are not ready to accept it . so enjoy i agree with you …………………and you are much more knowledgeable than me

    • Brother Original

      Knowledge is something that I little have. I did not say anywhere in my post that you should give up shaivaism. I always respect the Shaktas. But when nonsense thoughts such as advaita philosophy and Shaivaism come together I feel very pathetic. Rest of your views are creating some kind of …..
      Dhanyawad

      • @shravak:

        I gave your post a thumbs up 😉 I can see your suggestion has been implemented.

        But still, I am not sure about how this will work. Will posts with highly -ve comments not be displayed? Given the demographics of the visitors to Agniveer (I guess 80% Hindu?), there MAY be a tendency on folks on “our” side to needlessly “thumb down” contrary POVs [Muslim, Xian, Atheist, etc.] I hope that doesnt happen. I hope +s and -s are awarded based on rationality/content of the posts and not whether one is a HIndu/Muslim.

        In any case, it is worthwhile to try this out…Satyameva Jayate!

      • @Agniveer
        wow, that was quick! thanks Agniveer.

        @KalBhairav
        Yep, i agree, this is a concern. Lets hope for the best.

  45. Hello All:

    Nice to see the comments back up…

    Just a thought…could we have the comments as before? 5 comments per thread displayed on the side instead of the current 2?

    It is difficult to see the thread of discussions as of now.

    Thanks.

  46. Ahh…yes…it is 5 comments per thread. That is good. Probably was an issue with my browser or something…

    Thx.

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