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Buddhism and Vedas

Buddhism is often considered to be an anti-Vedic atheist philosophy. Today there are a huge number of schools and sects within Buddhism (exceeded perhaps only by Islam in terms of a number of divisions, sects, sub-sects within). But if we review the original teachings of Gautam Buddha, we find that he was only trying to teach the concepts of Vedas to best of his understanding.

Vocabulary of Buddhism

The vocabulary of Buddhism is adopted from prevailing literature.

• The word Buddha comes in Mahabharat Shantiparva 193/6 to mean ‘intelligent.’

• Bodhisatva has been used for Sri Krishna in Shishupal Vadh 15/58 and its commentary by Vallabhdeva.

• Bhikshu again is a word denoting certain sage in Mahabharat Shantiparva 325/24 and Gautam Dharmasutra 3/2.

• Shraman comes in Brihadaranyak Upanishad and Gautam Dharmasutra.

• Nirvana comes from Deval Dharmasutra and so on.

The famous Buddhist chant of Om Mani Padme Hum speaks for itself on the glory of Om – that originates from Vedas and is an integral part of Hinduism.

Vedas in the teachings of Mahatma Buddha

In Sutta Nipat 192, Mahatma Buddha says that:

Vidwa Cha Vedehi Samechcha Dhammam Na Uchchavacham Gachhati Bhooripanjo.

People allow sense-organs to dominate and keep shuffling between high and low positions. But the scholar who understands Vedas understands Dharma and does not waver.

Sutta Nipat 503:

Yo Vedagu Gyanarato Sateema …….

One should support a person who is master of Vedas, contemplative, intelligent, helpful if one desires to inculcate similar traits.

Sutta Nipat 1059:

Yam Brahmanam Vedagum Abhijanjya Akinchanam Kamabhave Asattam……

One gets free from worldly pains if he/she can understand a Vedic scholar, who has no wealth and free from attraction towards worldly things.

Sutta Nipat 1060:

Vidwa Cha So Vedagu Naro Idha Bhavabhave Sangam Imam Visajja…..

I state that one who understands the Vedas rejects attraction towards the world and becomes free from sins.

Sutta Nipat 846:
Na Vedagu Diththia Na Mutiya Sa Manameti Nahi Tanmayoso….

One who knows Vedas does not acquire false ego. He is not affected by hearsay and delusions.

Sutta Nipat 458:

Yadantagu Vedagu Yanjakaale Yassahuti Labhe Taras Ijjeti Broomi

I state that one who acquires Ahuti in Havan of a Vedic scholar gets success.

These are just a few examples from works of Mahatma Buddha.

Why Mahatma Buddha rejected Vedas

Many say that Mahatma Buddha rejected Vedas. However, this is far from the truth.

Mahatma Buddha did not reject Vedas per se, but he dismissed the malpractices happening in the name of Vedas.

For example, if we call someone – He is a Neta of India – today, he may get offended and feel as if we have called him corrupt and manipulative. This is not because Neta word in itself means ‘corrupt’, but because this is what we see of the so-called Netas today.

Similarly, when Mahatma Buddha questioned birth-based casteism, animal sacrifice, and other nonsense practices, he got answer that Vedas sanction so. Like any sane morally upright person would do, Mahatma Buddha stated that: “If Vedas sanction these evil practices, then I reject Vedas.”

Had Gautam Buddha obtained an opportunity to study the actual Vedas and not go by the false notions prevailing, he could no way have issued such a statement.

If that had happened, then the country and the entire world would have been strong enough to counter barbaric attacks of West/ Central Asian tribals that have resulted in the greatest problem of last 1000 years – terrorism. But that was the destiny we had to face. Because there was none to propagate the philosophical foundation of Vedas instead of mechanical and often illogical ritualism in name of Vedas.

Basic precepts of Buddhism

If we review the basic precepts of Buddhism, they are simply Vedic teachings reworded. For example,

• The four cardinal truths on life, suffering, desire, cessation are straight from Yoga and Nyaya Darshan. In fact, Nyaya Darshan 1.2 echoes almost the same essence in as many words.

• The eight fold path is adequately covered in a variety of ways in all ancient texts – Vedas, Manusmriti, Mahabharat and Yoga Darshan for example.

• The emphasis on Ahimsa is adapted from Yoga Darshan that puts Ahimsa as the first essential discipline for progress in Yoga- the process of realizing self and God.

• Theory of rebirth and Law of Karma that Buddhism is built upon finds its foundation in mantras of Vedas.

• Rejection of birth-based caste system is also in lines with Vedas.

• Emphasis on meditation is straight adopted from the Yoga Darshan that itself is based on Vedas.

• The five commandments for Buddhists and especially monks are from Yoga Darshan 1.2.3

In summary, one can state that Buddhism, as preached by Gautam Buddha, was a system of morality based on Vedas.

Why was Mahatma Buddha atheist?

Mahatma Buddha was not an atheist. Atheism developed later. At best, Gautam Buddha can be said to be agnostic. He believed that first and foremost duty is to raise one’s intellect level through the practice of a moral code of conduct and mind control.

Mahatma Buddha did not believe in arguments or debates. He had a very practical approach. Mahatma Buddha refused to either deny or acknowledge the presence of God or a supreme entity. He was content with teaching self-control and self-constraint and did not take the trouble of attempting a solution of the great problems of Universe: How it began? Is it everlasting? Have I existed in past? Will I exist forever? etc.

Later philosophers of Buddhism did attempt to solve these mysteries through their own analysis, and that is how Buddhism developed so many branches and sects.

In Kula Mayukyaovad Majjhama Nikaya there is a reference where someone asked Gautam Buddha whether the world is everlasting. He replied, “Did I ever promise that I shall teach you whether the world is everlasting or not? If not, then do not press the inquiry.” In Sabbasava Sutta, he suggests that such inquiries into self and universe are meaningless.

Mahatma Buddha focused on practical aspects and neglected the theoretical or metaphysical aspects. This was perhaps because he wanted to ensure that ritualistic malpractices do not overshadow the core essence of his teachings.

However, these are natural questions in any human being, and thus, later Buddhists had to make up for this deficiency in a variety of ways.
However, if we review the original philosophy of Mahatma Buddha, there is no evidence of him being atheist or anti-Vedic.

His attitude towards Vedas and Theism was that of indifference rather than rejection. In this indifference lied his Vedic Foundation. Because he eventually adopted only from the Vedas to form his ideology and strived to be an honest practitioner of – “Accept the truth, reject the rest” to best of his capability and intent.

Impact of Buddhism

Buddhism had a great impact during its times. It paved the way for rejection of distortions and external symbols towards nurture of morality. Since Buddhism did not challenge any of the key philosophical foundations of existing way of life – rebirth, the law of karma, emphasis on morality – it became popular not only in India and across Asia. However, soon it declined especially in India.

Decline of Buddhism

As Mahatma Buddha, himself said,

“The body contains within itself the power to renew its strength but also the causes that lead to its destruction.”

In the case of Buddhism, the cause lied in its incompleteness. While it adopted the moral precepts of Vedas, it ignored the metaphysical foundations. While a whole generation of Buddhist philosophers did spring up later, they could not address the key metaphysical questions convincingly and cohesively on Self, Universe, and Unchangeable Laws. This may work for pragmatics but not for the truly philosophical minds.

A mind tired with illogical ways of life may find great reprieve in focusing purely on moral precepts and meditation. However, for someone who hails for a culture having a vast legacy of philosophical richness in every mundane and not-so-mundane aspect of life, there are more questions needed to be explored to quench the intellectual thirst.

Acharya Shankar debated with Buddhists of his era and proved that whatever Buddhism (of that era) argues by denying the existence of God can also be explained by Adwait (One singular entity everywhere). For centuries, the debate between atheists and Vedic continued giving rise to a vast number of philosophical texts in India.

Later Buddhism tried to deny more clearly the existence of God and even that of the soul but could not give a satisfactory substitute. They believed in eternal, immutable law and never ending the chain of cause and effect.

However, in the absence of an entity ensuring that the laws work smartly and for our benefit, it was a blind alley: A religion without a deity!

A worshipper without an object of worship!

This forced Buddhists to evolve their own elaborate set of ceremonies, rituals, idols, chants and practices, but this only brought them in a rift with the original concepts. Some historians state that idol-worship began with Buddhism. All this kept splitting it into so many branches that are startlingly different at times. The religion supposed to be based on logic, intellect and mind-control has developed loads of superstitions, blind beliefs, tantra practices, witchcraft and myths of miracles. Today, the Divine Dalai Lama superstition has become the foundation of popular Buddhism.

The rift widened so much that the religion, which is said to have been based on a foundation of Non-Violence or Ahimsa, and which is said to have rejected Vedas because Vedas were perceived to sanction animal sacrifice, is one of the largest consumers of meat products today!
In many Buddhist places, they hang a board outside meat-shop that says: “Believe Us, This meat is not for you.” The monks are guilt-free in eating meat in these shops!!

When someone asked Dalai Lama while he was helping himself with a serving of meat, he said, “I am Buddhist. I am not vegetarian!”
Ironically, what is taught today across the world is that Mahatma Buddha got perturbed when he saw people carrying animals for sacrifice and hence rebelled! Very few people perhaps know that the cult that had its very origin in Animal Rights is the largest killer of animals today! All for taste!

Moreover, followers of Vedas – which were alleged to endorse animal killing in name of Vedic Yajnas – are today the greatest proponents of Animal Rights!

In fact, many sects of Buddhism believe that Mahatma Buddha died due to indigestion from consumption of pork offered as charity. (As per these sects whatever provided in charity must be consumed.)

Similarly, Buddhism, which started with rejecting man-made caste system, is itself now divided into so many sects/ sub-sects each having its own sect-specific practices. It is followers of Vedas who reject all man-made divisions and appeal for the oneness of entire humankind regardless of man-made rituals and beliefs. The roles are completely reversed today.

Coming back to the roots, Vedas seems to be the best way to emulate Gautam Buddha today!!

Buddhism could create appeal among other regions and can impress Christians today (Christianity derives its philosophical foundation in Buddhism and hence, it is the next logical bridge for Christians to an evolved and more matured view of life). But for India, which has been home to a whole chain of eminent thinkers, the vagueness of Buddhism could not hold its appeal for long.

Today, whatever Buddhism prevails in India is primarily a reaction to the birth-based caste system and related rituals that are wrongly attributed to Vedas. Ask these neo-Buddhists what they know about Buddhism and they will respond that all they know is that Ambedkar adopted Buddhism to protest against caste system! Time to spread that real Hinduism of Vedas is anti-casteist.

Final blow to Buddhism

The final blow to Buddhism came from Islamic invasion in the medieval era. The Bamiyan Buddhas of Afghanistan are mute spectators of that gory period of history. Buddhism, by its very rejection of other aspects of life except moral precepts, became most vulnerable to Muslim attacks. This has been the greatest damaging gift of Buddhist ideology to present era. The escapist Buddhist view that preferred to be neutral to all that happens with us in the world, coupled with a damaging caste system among Hindus, made sure that barbaric, uncivilized tribals could decimate us and establish their dominance. Hinduism could still survive due to its inherent emphasis on realism, but Buddhism perished. And this untimely perish had further adverse outcomes on future of India in the form of philosophical downtime.

Though, Buddhism of Myanmar has learnt its lessons and is adopting a zero-tolerance approach to terrorism.

Ask any weight-trainer and he would tell that if one needs to build big biceps, one needs to focus on leg squats as well. Lop-sided development does not work. It only causes injuries.

Similarly, mere focus on moral precepts does not work for society. One has to dwell into other aspects – society, politics, science, philosophy, metaphysics – for things to work out.

That is why Vedas emphasize and train on a vast variety of subjects.
While Buddhism adopted the moral precepts from Vedas, it made a blunder by ignoring the full picture, and that changed the path of history forever.

In fact, Buddhism was not supposed to be a distinct sect in the first place. It was merely supposed to be a philosophy focusing on moral aspects of life. Mahatma Buddha did not give any preaching on other aspects at all. The blunder was that his followers took his specific but narrow focus as a complete recipe of life.

Often we get so enamored by personalities that we lose the big picture. We consider fullness in whatever attracts our attention for long. For example, we witnessed the cricket drama for a month, and now there seems nothing more patriotic than winning a World Cup and recommending Bharat Ratna for a cricketer!

Similarly, most cults sprang up because the followers failed to consider the deeds and views of their role models as a critical PART of a bigger picture and instead considered completeness in that SMALL PART.

Mahatma Buddha considered eradication of misery as the Mission. While this is true, he took it to a narrow extreme and hence created a philosophy that was too pessimistic for the common man to be motivated enough for worthwhile actions. Or maybe he did not have this intention, but this is what we observe from literature of that era.

This coupled with the absence of any discussions on the key questions that initiate spiritual thinking – Who am I? Will I die forever? Will this world end?, etc. – left no incentive for a layman to extend his efforts beyond sitting in an isolated place trying to control the mind. Why would then one make a sacrifice for the nation, fight the enemies and work for smiles on the face of his fellow-beings when he does not know clearly why he is doing so?

Today, psychologists would tell us that running away from miseries cannot bring the same level of motivation for worthwhile actions than a desire for greater happiness.

Avoidance of miseries because the world is full of miseries implies that one would naturally escape from worldly duties because even these performance of these duties would cause indulgence and hence miseries.

After all, Buddhist philosophy asserted that our misery began the moment we were born. To deny even the Self (Anatma) to become indifferent to pain becomes the goal of life. How can then indifference generate actions when there is even no vaguely clear end-goal to be reached, and denial is the best recipe?

Mahatma Buddha talked of four right beliefs:

• Knowledge of misery,
• Knowledge of origin of misery,
c• Knowledge of cessation of misery and
• Knowledge of path leading to the cessation of misery.

However, when even ‘I’ does not exist, who will work for getting these right beliefs? Moreover, what would be obtained? This incompleteness led to rank pessimism. The philosophies that emerged to counter this blinded belief system of Mahatma Buddha also suffered from the same pessimism and inherent inertia against vigorous actions.

Buddhism was doing bicep curls but not squatting sufficiently. It took only one part of the Vedic message but ignored the rest.

Nationalism and reformist zeal could not co-exist prominently with Buddhism. (Even though Mahatma Buddha himself was an extremely dynamic man.) It left Buddhism defenseless against savage attacks and created ‘Parable of Boiled Frog‘. If we put a frog in hot water, it would jump out immediately. However, if we put it in a beaker and gradually increase the temperature of water from cold to warm, from hot to boiling, the frog does not jump out. It dies instead. This is because the nervous system of frog is unable to detect gradual changes in temperature.

• Lack of focus on proactive action plus

• View of life being a misery in either case – action or no action plus

• Belief in everything being futile because everything is temporary and

• Refusal to look into the bigger picture and focusing only on a narrow set of precepts turned Buddhism into a frog.

It offered little resistance to invaders and virtually opened the doors for savages to India. Whatever Buddhism survived is far from original thoughts of the founder – a countless number of sects/ sub sects with an extremely diverse view and having the only image of Gautam Buddha in common.

Gita cautioned that wise people (Buddhas) must refrain from teaching too much wisdom to less intelligent people. This aggravates situation because they stop doing their duties in delusion of being intellectual. And fail to get wise due to their limitations. Buddhism suffered due to bypassing of this caution.

Pleasures many times exceed the pain

It is true that there is suffering in the world. But to say that it is pure unalloyed suffering, with no iota of pleasure is a dangerous generalization. Absolute unalloyed pessimism cannot goad a man to action. The world is not an abode of misery. The Benevolent God could not have made such a nasty world where suffering reigns. Even the most miserable in the world has some sort of joy that keeps him up. Even stoics had to summon up an exceptional resolve when they prepared themselves for suicide. No sane being wishes to die because behind all miseries there is hope that the all-blissful God will not leave us in the lurch. Whether one believes in God or not, in this hope for a better future lies the bliss and acceptance of Supreme power. To deny this is to deny reality. Moreover, a philosophy that denies realism cannot face the challenges of the real world.

Kapila states in Sankhya 5.113 that at least during Sushupti (deep slumber), Samadhi (deep meditation) and Moksha (Salvation) soul gets an experience of Supreme bliss.

Swami Dayanand succinctly explained the flaw in lines of Vedas: “If you compare the pleasure and pain of the world, pleasures many times exceed the pain. And many pure souls earn the bliss of salvation by constant practice of virtuous actions.”

(If Agniveer were to pick the most inspiring quote from entire Vedic teachings it has ever come across, it would undoubtedly be this one.)

This makes the Vedic philosophy distinctly optimistic and invigorating. It assuages the rigor of present life and makes the future hopeful. It illumines our present as well as future.

We wish if someone could have made this statement during times of Mahatma Buddha! History would have been different.

In the absence of this, Buddhism turned to escapism. (even though Mahatma Buddha himself was a man of action.)

When the savages attacked

• We were occupied with our meditation to ignore the self and cause of misery through indifference.

• We neglected built up of strong armies, regular training, and R&D on defense.

• We were indifferent to the need for reformist zeal to break the very roots of the caste system and gender discrimination.

• We refused to look into the Vedas to discover what the original teachings were.

• We were simply practicing indifference to real challenges around.

And today, while Buddhism does not prominently exist in India (except in Dharmashala where Dalai Lama is forced to have asylum after Chinese aggression), the philosophy and the myriad of other philosophies that emerged to amend or counter it, turns us into a fatalistic society. We have developed high inertia, resist the urge to face challenges, attempt to use philosophy as a tool to justify our escapism and have gradually moved towards becoming indifferent to whatever does not pinch us too strongly.

Ahimsa has become just an alibi for laziness and cowardice.

Conclusion

We do not mean that Buddhism is to be blamed for all this. Not at all. Buddhism was a natural reaction to the prevailing ironies in the society of those times. An essential one. We believe that people have different needs and level of evolution and hence, for many including Mahatma Buddha, this was the most optimal view of life. For a society that was focusing too much on blind rituals and irrational social practices, Buddhism gave the right shock to spur up more rational and logical thinking. The roots of the problem lay much earlier, and Buddhism was merely a logical and necessary outcome.

• Teachings of Mahatma Buddha are based purely on moral aspects of Vedas.

• His teachings also showcase his respect for Vedas.

• His vocabulary and usages were derived from Vedic texts.

• He was, in summary, a Vedic preacher to the best of his abilities.

There is NO WAY that Buddhism of Gautam Buddha can be termed as separate from Vedic Dharma. It is as much an offshoot attempting to reach the source – Vedic wisdom – as other sects.

However, the defection of the narrow, incomplete focus of Buddhism into a complete philosophy in its own right (which it never meant to be in first place) was detrimental to national interests.

Had Buddhism been a more informed and complete philosophy based on a more thorough and rigorous study of Vedas, instead of its apparent paradoxical rejection based on extremely superficial grounds, history would have been different.

Had Buddhists spent efforts to reform the society the way Raja Ram Mohun Roy and Swami Dayanand attempted, instead of attempting to split into a separate sect (which it never was), history would have been different.

Similarly, if all other sects and cults would not have been based on the bounded rationality of few well-intentioned men and had instead attempted to grab the complete picture of the concepts in their original source, the Vedas, the world would have been a much more sensible place today. Much more tolerant, broader in outlook and rational.

Whatever good that we see in any cult or sect is already existing in Vedas though elaborated through works and teachings of great legends from time to time. However, because most of these founders were addressing their imminent short-term needs and the followers believed in the exclusivity of their sect, the holistic view got missing.

The key lesson is that any incomplete or temporary solution for today would eventually become a problem tomorrow.

The only way is to adopt the complete solution

Swami Dayanand suggested a way to approach this issue of so many sects and cults and religions touching one part of the elephant each. Let all the common points in all these sects be brought together that are acceptable to all. For example, non-violence, morality, nationalism, truthfulness, non-stealing. Then eliminate all assumptions, beliefs and practices unique to each sect that is not otherwise explainable. This becomes the Universal Dharma for all human beings, and this is exactly what Vedas teach.

Agniveer respects all the great men of history who attempted to bring society closer to Vedic living and aspires that we evolve to reach the original source that all these great legends were attempting to reach – The wisdom of Vedas. Instead of viewing completeness in our own silo, let us attempt to integrate all the silos together into One. Let’s get back to the roots instead of holding on to each tiny branch as the source. No, we do not mean that all branches to be cut-off and only root of the tree should remain. We only desire that each branch knows that we form a tree only when all the branches are together and supported by the root. A branch detached from rest of the branches and root would only be a dry piece of wood. Let’s all be One Tree and strengthen the roots of the Tree that would then strengthen us all. This is the only way to pay our homage to their legacy. Our failure to do so brought us the miseries we faced till today.

Our success would ensure Shantih (peace, bliss, happiness) everywhere.

ॐ द्यौ: शान्तिरन्तरिक्षँ शान्ति:
पृथिवी शान्तिराप: शान्तिरोषधय: शान्ति: ।
वनस्पतय: शान्तिर्विश्वे देवा: शान्तिर्ब्रह्म शान्ति:
सर्वँ शान्ति: शान्तिरेव शान्ति: सा मा शान्तिरेधि ॥
ॐ शान्ति: शान्ति: शान्ति: ॥

Note: The views expressed are supposed to be a perspective to stir up thoughts, discussions, and introspection. They may be viewed in the context of the Agniveer’s stand and not otherwise.

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212 COMMENTS

  1. mAHARSHI mANU sTATES:THE ONE WHO IS AN ATHEIST SHOULD BE SENT OUT OF THE COUNTRY.SO I THINK i SHOULD SAY FOOL mANU AND GREAT BRAHMA RISHI MAHARSHI VAJRA JI.

  2. Hello agniveer ji, please don’t call gautam buddha a mahatma . He did not believe on ishwar. His senses weren’t on control. It would be against Arya samaj rules to praise anyone who was an atheist. You wrote that there is no evidence buddha being an atheist. But there is no evidence buddha being a theist too. What he did is that he just ignored this issue.

  3. QURAAN SAYS THERE WERE 1LAKH 24 THOUSAND PROPHETS,THOSE WHO WERE THEGOOD HUMAN BEINGS,WELLWISHERS OF HUMAN KIND..WERE SENT TO THE EARH…IN RESPECIVE SITUATIONS THEYGAVETHERE MSG.VEDAS ARE 4000YRS OLD,BUDDHA CAME 2500YEARS BACK, CHRIST YESHU BORN BEFORE 2011YEARS…BUT,MOHAMMAD PAIGAMBAR FOUND “ISLAM”IN 7TH CENTURY..AS PEOPLE CLAIM VEDAS, BIBLE ARE DIVIN SCRIPTURES, CAME B4 MOHAMMAD. HOLY QURAAN SAYS,ITS A LAST SCRIPTURE AND LAST MESSANGER FOR HUMAN KIND..IT SEEMS QUITE SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS BOOKS BUT INSTID OF PLENTY WORNINGS HUMANS ARE MISSBEHAVING STILL.EVERYBODY HAS TO OBEY IT NOW.MR. PANDIT NEHRU,INDIRA GANDHI WERE THE INDIA’S POPULAR PRIM MINISTERS AT THERE TIME THEY BRING SOME RULES WE FOLLOWED IT..BUT TODAY WE CANNT FOLLOW THE SAME RULES AS P.M. IS SOMEONEELSE…WE NEED 2 FOLLOW NEW RULES OTERWISE RULER WILL HANG US UNDER ANTIDEMOCRATIC ACTIVITIES. THE SAME WAY VEDAS R RESPECTED SCRIPTURES BUT FOR GODS WISH WE SHOULD FOLLOW QURAAN.IF U TALLY IT WITH SCIENCE EVEN QURAAN REMAINS TRUE…..NON MUSLIMS R NOT READING THERE ONE SRIPTURES…HOW THEY WILL READ AND UNDSTAND QURAAN??? THEY ONLY CAN BLAME ONLY BUT WILLNOT TAKE ANY EFFORT TO KNOW QURAAN….IF U WANT TO KNOW ABOUT ISLAM GO TO ORIGIN I.e.QURAAN…..MUSLIMS ARE MISSUNDSTANDIG QURAAN…THEY AS WELL WE ALL NEED TO UNDSTAND AND TALLY QURAAN WITH “PEACE”. AS VEDAS QURAAN IS ALSO FULL OF ITERNAL PEACE…WITHOUT KNOWING PERSONALY HOW U CAN BLAME ANYBODYOR ANY RELIGION?? MAY “MUSLIMS ” U CAN BLAME .THEY CAN BEHAVE WRONG…..BUT” ISLAM”WE CANT BLAM COZ ITS OUR GODS SCRIPTURE ONLYTHE NAME HAS CHANGED ……….WE ALL R THE GOD’S CREATION…BUT STILL DIVIDED….HE IS EXPECTING OUR UNITY.MUSLIMS R TRYING TO DO THE SAME BUT DOING IT WILDLY…THATS BAD…..BUT THERE ARE SO MANY MUSLIMS THOSE WHO R CRYING AND PRAYING PATIENTLY AND WATING FOR THEDAY WHEN WHOLE WORLD WILL BEHAVE BROTHERHOODLY AND BOWING AND PRAYING ONE ANDONLY ONE SUPREEM LORD OF EARTH AND SKY……..AMEEN.

    • My sympathies with those Muslims. If a Muslim behaves peacefully and want universal brotherhood without any biases – then he is a true Momin. But problem is: These are rarely available. If Muslims want peace to prevail from core of their heart – NOT THRU VIOLENCE, nothing better than that. But, there are many who just conclude that NON believers of Islam shall enter hell eternally. Interestingly, Some Muslim kills 10^88 innocent people but is saved completely from Allah’s wrath just bcoz he is a Muslim and says SORRY. If a Non muslim kills an ant – he goes to hell eternally. for he does not believe in Islam. If Quran is interpreted this way, PEACE CANNOT PREVAIL ON EARTH. You can see http://agniveer.com/2623/islam-peace/ to know true Islam. If a Muslim becomes true Muslim as said there; he / she need not worry at all.
      But I did not get your logic. How Can GOD be compared to Nehru… The rules of GOD need not change at all. And there are 1.24 Lac prophets => GOD was cheated so many times by humans. Quran demands surrender before Allah. That Allah can do anything and everything & his messages are changed – this shows Allah is dumb. Allah shall not be mistaken as a normal human. His message shall come in beginning NOT in end. How can he be unjust to punish those who weren’t alive when he revealed? And Allah’s msg changed 1.24 Lac times; what is guarantee that it won’t change now? A magician will come and say – I am prophet. He will do miracles & write a book indicating I am final messenger. He will say Quran is wrong. Does Quran has any solution? By final messenger, it is clear that all those who don’t learn shall be punished. Why after Mohammed, evil still prevailed? Why were Hitlers born – what’s use of last messenger if world still does not learn? Within a decade of Mohammed’s death – evil should have sufficed – that’s what last messenger actually means. If Allah is sleeping for 14 centuries, he must be awakened. There were many well wishers of mankind after Mohammed – calling Mohammed last messenger…

      • There were many well wishers of mankind after Mohammed – calling Mohammed as last messenger is their insult.
        Conclusion: Someone must correct the Quran for the benefit of mankind and society. Those Muslims which you are talking would be happy & so would be Non Muslims. That is the path of happines. Let’s end religious rivalry permanently this way.
        And by the way, please get years right: Origin of Vedas: 1.96Billion years under hearts of first Rishis.

  4. Dear Maya Sasane
    You are having wrong informations about everything.Vedas were originated in the hearts of four Rishis around 1 arab 96 crore 8 lakh 53 thousand and 110 years.

  5. Hi,
    I am thrilled to read such high quality discussion, but my request to all, please dont demean anyother religion for instance on this topic there was no need to include Islam and what is their perspective, It is not required to stoop so low as to as demean somebody else to glorify yourself.
    Thanks
    Vikas

  6. बौद्ध धर्म से फैली नास्तिकता का भयंकर परिणाम — वाम मार्ग , जन्त्र-तन्त्र व् पाखण्ड का प्रचार
    नास्तिकता जब बौद्ध सिद्धान्त के नाम से फ़ैल गई तो उसका जो परिणाम हुआ उसे हम अपने शब्दों में न लिखकर श्री राहुल सांकृन्तायन के शब्दों में रखना उचित समझते हैं | अपनी “बुद्धचर्या” की भूमिका में वे लिखते है —–
    “कनिष्क के काल में पहले पहल बुद्ध की प्रतिमा ( मूर्ति ) बनाई गई | महायान के प्रचार के साथ जहाँ बुद्ध प्रतिमाओं की पूजा अर्चना बड़े ठाट -बाट से होने लगी , वहाँ सैकड़ों बोधिसत्वों की भी प्रतिमायें बनने लगीं | इन बोधिसत्वों को उन्होंने ब्राह्मणों के देवी देवताओं का काम सौंपा | उन्होंने तारा , प्रज्ञा पारमिता , विजया आदि अनेक देवियों की भी कल्पना की | जगह-जगह इन देवियों और बोधिसत्वों के लिए बड़े-बड़े विशाल मन्दिर बन गये | इनके बहुत से स्तोत्र आदि भी बनने लगे | इस बाढ़ में इन्होंने यह ख्याल न किया कि हमारे इस काम से किसी प्राचीन परम्परा या किसी भिक्षु नियम का उल्लंघन होता है | जब किसी ने दलील पेश की तो कह दिया — विनय नियम तुच्छ स्वार्थ के पीछे मरनेवाले हीनयानियों के लिए हैं , सारी दुनियाँ की मुक्ति के लिये मरने-जीनेवाले बोधिसत्व को इस की वैसी पाबन्दी नहीं हो सहती | उन्होंने हीनयान के सूत्रों से अधिक महात्म्यवाले अपने सूत्र बनाये | सैकड़ों पृष्ठों के सूत्रों का पाठ जल्दी नहीं हो सकता था इसलिये उन्होंने हर एक सूत्र की दो तीन पंक्तियों में छोटी-छोटी धारणी बनाई | इन्हीं धारणियों को और संक्षिप्त करके मन्त्रों की सृष्टि हुई | इस प्रकार धारणियों , बोधिसत्वों , उनकी अनेक दिव्य शक्तियों तथा प्राचीन परम्परा और पिटक की निस्संकोच की जाती — उलट-पुलट से उत्साहित हो , गुप्त साम्राज्य के आरम्भिक काल से हर्षवर्धन के समय तक मञ्जु श्री मूल कल्प , गुह्य समाज और चक्र संवर आदि कितने ही तंत्रों की सृष्टि की गई | पुराने निकायों ने अपेक्षाकृत सरलता अपनी मुक्ति के लिये अर्हद् यान और प्रत्येक बुद्धयान का रास्ता खुला रखा था | महायान ने सबके लिये सुदुश्चर बुद्धयान का ही एकमात्र रास्ता रखा | आगे चलकर कठिनाई को दूर करने के लए ही उन्होंने धारणियों , बोधिसत्वों की पूजाओं का आविष्कार किया | इस प्रकार जब आसान दिशाओं का मार्ग खुलने लगा , तब उसके अविष्कारकों की भी संख्या बढ़ने लगी | मञ्जु श्री मूल कल्प ने तन्त्रों के लिये रास्ता खोल दिया | गुह्य समाज ने अपने भैरवी चक्र के शराब , स्त्री सम्भोग तथा मंत्रोच्चारण से उसे और भी आसान कर दिया | यह मत महायान के भीतर से ही उत्पन्न हुआ , किन्तु पहले इसका प्रचार भीतर ही भीतर होता रहा | भैरवी चक्र की सभी कार्यवाहियाँ गुप्त रखी जाती थीं | प्रवेशाकांक्षी को कितने ही समय तक उम्मीदवारी करनी पड़ती थी | यह मन्त्रयान ( तन्त्रयान , वज्रयान ) सम्प्रदाय इस प्रकार सातवीं शताब्दी तक गुप्तरीति से चलता रहा | इसके अनुयायी बाहर से अपने को महायानी ही कहते थे | महायानी भी अपना पृथक विनय पिटक नहीं बना सके थे इसलिये इनके भिक्षु लोग सर्वास्तिवाद आदि निकायों में में दीक्षा लेते थे | आठवीं शताब्दी में भी , जबकि नालन्दा महायान का गढ़ थी , वहाँ के भिक्षु सर्वास्तिवाद विनय के अनुयायी थे | तन्त्र के प्रचुर प्रचार से भिक्षुओं को सर्वास्तिवाद को , बोधिसत्वचर्या में महायान की और भैरवी चक्र में वज्रयान की दीक्षा लेनी पड़ती थी |
    आठवीं शताब्दी में एक प्रकार से भारत के सभी बौद्ध सम्प्रदाय वज्रयान गर्भित महायान के अनुयायी हो गए थे | बुद्ध की सीधी-सीधी शिक्षाओं से उनका विश्वास उठ चुका था और वे मनघड़ंत हजारों लोकोक्तर कथाओं पर विश्वास करते थे | बाहर से भिक्षु के कपड़े पहनने पर भी वे भीतर से गुह्य समाजी थे | बड़े-बड़े विद्वान और प्रतिभाशाली कवि आधे पागल हो , चौरासी सिद्धों में दाखिल हो सन्ध्या भाषा में निर्गुण गान करते थे | सातवी शताब्दी में उड़ीसा के राजा इन्द्रभूति और उसके गुरु सिद्ध अनङ्ग वज्र तथा दूसरे पण्डित सिद्ध , स्त्रियों को ही मुक्तिदात्री प्रज्ञा , पुरुषों को ही मुक्ति का ‘उपाय’ और शराब को ही अमृत सिद्ध करने में अपनी पण्डिताई और सिद्धाई खर्च कर रहे थे | आठवीं शताब्दी से बारहवीं शताब्दी तक का बौद्ध धर्म वस्तुतः वज्रयान या भैरवी चक्र का धर्म था | महायान ने ही धारणियों और पूजाओं से निर्वाण को सुगम कर दिया था , वज्रयान ने उसे एकदम सहज कर दिया इसलिए आगे चलकर वज्रयान -“सहजयान”-भी कहा जाने लगा | ”
    “वज्रयान के विद्वान प्रतिभाशाली कवि चौरासी सिद्ध ……..लोग शराब में मस्त , खोपड़ी का प्याला लिए श्मशान या विकट जंगलों में रहा करते थे | जन साधारण को जितना ये फटकारते थे उतना ही लोग इनके पीछे दौड़ते थे | ये “सिद्ध” लोग खुल्लमखुल्ला स्त्रियों औए शराब का उपभोग करते थे | राजा अपनी कन्याओं तक को इन्हें प्रदान करते थे |……….इन पाँच शताब्दियों में धीरे-धीरे एक तरह से सारी भारतीय जनता इनके चक्कर में पड़कर काम व्यसनी , मद्यप और मूढ़ विश्वासिनी बन गई थी | राजा लोग जहाँ राजरक्षा के लिये पलटनें रखते थे वहाँ उसके लिये किसी सिद्धाचार्य तथा उसके सैकड़ों तान्त्रिक अनुयायियों की भी एक बहु व्यय -साध्य पलटन रखा करते थे | देव मन्दिरों में बराबर ही बलि पूजा चढ़ती रहती थी | लाभ-सत्कार द्वारा उन्युक्त होने से ब्राह्मणों और दूसरे धर्मानुयायियों ने भी बहुत अंश में इनका अनुसरण किया | ”
    अन्धविश्वास इतना !!! — ” भारतीय जनता जब इस प्रकार दुराचार और मूढ़ विश्वास के पंक में कंठ तक डूबी हुई थी | ब्राह्मण भी जाति भेद के विष बीज को शताब्दियों तक बोकर , जाती टुकड़े-टुकड़े बाँटकर घोर गृह कलह पैदा कर चुके थे | ………….तुर्कों ने मन्दिरों की अपार सम्पत्ति को ही नहीं लूटा , बल्कि अगणित दिव्य शक्तियों की मालिक देव मूर्तियों को भी चकनाचूर कर दिया | तान्त्रिक लोग , मन्त्र , बलि और पुरश्चरण का प्रयोग करते ही रह गये | किन्तु उससे तुर्कों का कुछ नहीं बिगड़ा | …………जिस विहार के पालवंशी राजा ने राज्य रक्षा के लिये उडंत पुरी का तान्त्रिक विहार बनाया था उसे मुहम्मद बिन बख्त्यार उद्दीन ( मुहम्मद बिन बख्त्यार ) ने सिर्फ दो सौ घुड़सवारों से जीत लिया | नालन्दा की अद्भुत शक्तिशाली तारा टुकड़े-टुकड़े करके फेंक दी गई | नालन्दा और विक्रमशिला के सैकड़ों तान्त्रिक भिक्षु तलवार के घाट उतर दिये गये |”…….
    राहुलजी का रक्तरोदन — ” लेकिन प्रश्न होता है कि तुर्कों ने तो बौद्धों और ब्राह्मणों , दोनों के ही मन्दिरों को तोड़ा , पुरोहितों को मारा , फिर क्या वजह है जो ब्राह्मण भारत में अब भी है और बौद्ध न रहे | बात यह है कि ब्राह्मण धर्म में गृहस्थ भी धर्म के अगुआ हो सकते थे , बौद्ध भिक्षुओं पर ही धर्म प्रचार और धार्मिक ग्रंथों की रक्षा का भार था | ब्राह्मणों में भी यद्यपि वाममार्गी थे किन्तु सभी नहीं | बौद्धों में तो सब वज्रयानी थे | इनके भिक्षुओं की प्रतिष्ठा उनके सदाचार और विद्या पर न थी , बल्कि उनके तथा उनके मन्त्रों और देवताओं की अद्भुत शक्तियों पर थी | तुर्कों की तलवारों ने इन अद्भुत शक्तियों का दिवाला निकाल दिया | जनता समझने लगी ; हम धोखे में थे | इसका फल यह हुआ कि जब बौद्ध भिक्षुओं ने अपने टूटे मठों और मन्दिरों को फिर से मरम्मत कराना चाहा तब इनके लिये इन्हें रूपये नहीं मिले | वस्तुतः इन आचारहीन शराबी भिक्षुओं को उस समय — जबकि तुर्कों के अत्याचार के कारण लोगों को एक-एक पैसा बहुमूल्य प्रतीत होता था — कौन रुपयों की थैली सौंपता ? फल यह हुआ कि बौद्ध अपने टूटे धर्मस्थलों की मरम्मत कराने में सफल न हो सके और इसप्रकार उनके भिक्षु अशरण हो गये |
    ब्राह्मणों में यह बात न थी | उनमे सबके सब वाममार्गी न थे | कितने ही अब भी अपनी विद्या और आचरण के कारण पूजे जाते थे | इसलिए उन्हें फिर अपने मन्दिरों को बनवाने के लिये रूपये मिल गये |”…….
    श्री राहुल सांकृन्तायन जी स्वयं अपने को बौद्धमत अनुयायी कहते हैं अतः हमने उनकी – “बुद्धचर्या” – की भूमिका से यह विस्तृत उद्धरण यह दिखाने के लिये दिया है कि बौद्धमत के नाम से नास्तिकता का प्रचार होने पर उसका नैतिक दृष्टि से कैसा भयंकर परिणाम हुआ | जिस बौद्धमत के विषय में यह दावा किया जाता है कि उससे अधिक सदाचार का प्रतिपादक कोई धर्म नहीं , उसमे श्री राहुल जी के ऊपर उद्धृत लेखानुसार सबके सब वज्रयानी व् वाममार्गी , शराबी बन जाएँ और उनके व्यभिचार तथाकथित सिद्धों का इतना अधिक मान हो इसके कारण पर गंभीरता से विचार करने की आवश्यकता है | हमारे विचार में तो इस नैतिक पतन का कारण स्पष्ट है | जब कर्म फलदाता न्यायकारी परमेश्वर की सत्ता पर कोई विश्वास न हो , जब नित्य आत्मा की सत्ता पर विशवास न हो , जब धर्म के लिये मुख्य प्रमाण वेदों पर विशवास न हो तो उसका स्वाभाविक परिणाम स्वेच्छाचारिता और नैतिक पतन है | इसमें आश्चर्य की कोई बात नहीं |
    ( — विद्यामार्तण्ड स्वामी धर्मानन्द )

  7. सनातन धर्मरक्षक महान सम्राट – पुष्यमित्र शुंग
    मोर्य वंश के महान सम्राट चन्द्रगुप्त के पोत्र महान अशोक (?) ने कलिंग युद्ध के पश्चात् बौद्ध धर्म अपना लिया। अशोक अगर राजपाठ छोड़कर बौद्ध भिक्षु बनकर धर्म प्रचार में लगता तब वह वास्तव में महान होता । परन्तु अशोक ने एक बौध सम्राट के रूप में लग भाग २० वर्ष तक शासन किया। अहिंसा का पथ अपनाते हुए उसने पूरे शासन तंत्र को बौद्ध धर्म के प्रचार व प्रसार में लगा दिया। अत्यधिक अहिंसा के प्रसार से भारत की वीर भूमि बौद्ध भिक्षुओ व बौद्ध मठों का गढ़ बन गई थी। उससे भी आगे जब मोर्य वंश का नौवा अन्तिम सम्राट व्रहद्रथ मगध की गद्दी पर बैठा ,तब उस समय तक आज का अफगानिस्तान, पंजाब व लगभग पूरा उत्तरी भारत बौद्ध बन चुका था । जब सिकंदर व सैल्युकस जैसे वीर भारत के वीरों से अपना मान मर्दन करा चुके थे, तब उसके लगभग ९० वर्ष पश्चात् जब भारत से बौद्ध धर्म की अहिंसात्मक निति के कारण वीर वृत्ति का लगभग ह्रास हो चुका था, ग्रीकों ने सिन्धु नदी को पार करने का साहस दिखा दिया।
    सम्राट व्रहद्रथ के शासनकाल में ग्रीक शासक मिनिंदर जिसको बौद्ध साहित्य में मिलिंद कहा गया है ,ने भारत वर्ष पर आक्रमण की योजना बनाई। मिनिंदर ने सबसे पहले बौद्ध धर्म के धर्म गुरुओं से संपर्क साधा,और उनसे कहा कि अगर आप भारत विजय में मेरा साथ दें तो में भारत विजय के पश्चात् में बौद्ध धर्म स्वीकार कर लूँगा। बौद्ध गुरुओं ने राष्ट्र द्रोह किया तथा भारत पर आक्रमण के लिए एक विदेशी शासक का साथ दिया।
    सीमा पर स्थित बौद्ध मठ राष्ट्रद्रोह के अड्डे बन गए। बोद्ध भिक्षुओ का वेश धरकर मिनिंदर के सैनिक मठों में आकर रहने लगे। हजारों मठों में सैनिकों के साथ साथ हथियार भी छुपा दिए गए।
    दूसरी तरफ़ सम्राट व्रहद्रथ की सेना का एक वीर सैनिक पुष्यमित्र शुंग अपनी वीरता व साहस के कारण मगध कि सेना का सेनापति बन चुका था । बौद्ध मठों में विदेशी सैनिको का आगमन उसकी नजरों से नही छुपा । पुष्यमित्र ने सम्राट से मठों कि तलाशी की आज्ञा मांगी। परंतु बौद्ध सम्राट वृहद्रथ ने मना कर दिया।किंतु राष्ट्रभक्ति की भावना से ओत प्रोत शुंग , सम्राट की आज्ञा का उल्लंघन करके बौद्ध मठों की तलाशी लेने पहुँच गया। मठों में स्थित सभी विदेशी सैनिको को पकड़ लिया गया,तथा उनको यमलोक पहुँचा दिया गया,और उनके हथियार कब्जे में कर लिए गए। राष्ट्रद्रोही बौद्धों को भी ग्रिफ्तार कर लिया गया। परन्तु वृहद्रथ को यह बात अच्छी नही लगी।
    पुष्यमित्र जब मगध वापस आया तब उस समय सम्राट सैनिक परेड की जाँच कर रहा था। सैनिक परेड के स्थान पर ही सम्राट व पुष्यमित्र शुंग के बीच बौद्ध मठों को लेकर कहासुनी हो गई।सम्राट वृहद्रथ ने पुष्यमित्र पर हमला करना चाहा परंतु पुष्यमित्र ने पलटवार करते हुए सम्राट का वध कर दिया। वैदिक सैनिको ने पुष्यमित्र का साथ दिया तथा पुष्यमित्र को मगध का सम्राट घोषित कर दिया।
    सबसे पहले मगध के नए सम्राट पुष्यमित्र ने राज्य प्रबंध को प्रभावी बनाया, तथा एक सुगठित सेना का संगठन किया। पुष्यमित्र ने अपनी सेना के साथ भारत के मध्य तक चढ़ आए मिनिंदर पर आक्रमण कर दिया। भारतीय वीर सेना के सामने ग्रीक सैनिको की एक न चली। मिनिंदर की सेना पीछे हटती चली गई । पुष्यमित्र शुंग ने पिछले सम्राटों की तरह कोई गलती नही की तथा ग्रीक सेना का पीछा करते हुए उसे सिन्धु पार धकेल दिया। इसके पश्चात् ग्रीक कभी भी भारत पर आक्रमण नही कर पाये। सम्राट पुष्य मित्र ने सिकंदर के समय से ही भारत वर्ष को परेशानी में डालने वाले ग्रीको का समूल नाश ही कर दिया। बौद्ध धर्म के प्रसार के कारण वैदिक सभ्यता का जो ह्रास हुआ,पुन:ऋषिओं के आशीर्वाद से जाग्रत हुआ। डर से बौद्ध धर्म स्वीकार करने वाले पुन: वैदिक धर्म में लौट आए। कुछ बौद्ध ग्रंथों में लिखा है की पुष्यमित्र ने बौद्दों को सताया .किंतु यह पूरा सत्य नही है। सम्राट ने उन राष्ट्रद्रोही बौद्धों को सजा दी ,जो उस समय ग्रीक शासकों का साथ दे रहे थे।
    पुष्यमित्र ने जो वैदिक धर्म की पताका फहराई उसी के आधार को सम्राट विक्र्मद्वित्य व आगे चलकर गुप्त साम्रराज्य ने इस धर्म के ज्ञान को पूरे विश्व में फैलाया।
    http://agniveerfans.wordpress.com/2011/10/04/shung/

  8. पुष्यमित्र ने जो वैदिक धर्म की पताका फहराई उसी के आधार को सम्राट विक्र्मद्वित्य व आगे चलकर गुप्त साम्रराज्य ने इस धर्म के ज्ञान को पूरे विश्व में फैलाया।
    vivekji
    samraat vikramaditya gupt raja hee the.
    chandragupt -II (not chanragupt maurya)
    is Mahraj vikramaditya. jinhone vikram samvat chalaya tha.

  9. Hi Agniveer, This article is nice. Note down that in the lines “Swami Dayanand succinctly explained the flaw in lines of Vedas:”, it would be better if you add a comma between the word flaw and in lines of Vedas. Because it reads like there is a flaw in lines of Vedas and Swami is explaining it.
    kindly,
    Vimal.

  10. रुचं ब्राह्मं जनयन्तो देवा अग्रे तदब्रुवन यस्त्वैवं ब्राह्मणों विद्यात तस्य देवा असन वशे ।
    इस मंत्र से सिद्ध होता है की गौतम बुद्ध वैराग्यवान नहीं था। उसकी मन आदि इन्द्रिय संयम में नहीं थी। महर्षि दयानन्द जी ने कभी भी गौतम बुद्ध के साथ महात्मा शब्द का प्रयोग नहीं किया । अतैव हमें भी नहीं करना चाहिए। मनु स्मृति की माने तो गौतम बुद्ध शूद्र था। I challenge everyone to prove gautam buddha a Vairagyavan person.

  11. I emulated gautam buddha’s Apar and Par vairagya. that caused dopaminergic chemical imbalance in my brain. So i request agniveer ji to stop praising gautam buddha.

  12. This article is another attempt to swallow other faith’s such as Buddha Dhamma. As a Buddhist its my request to stop propagating such false theories.
    Dear Agniveer and other readers,
    Please look after this sayings of Buddha.
    Lord Buddha denied that the Vedas were sacred. He denied that whatever the Vedas said was final. He denied that the Vedas were infallible.
    There were many teachers who had taken the same position as he had done. However, later on they or their followers all gave in, in order to win respect and goodwill from the Brahmins for their systems of philosophy. But the Buddha never yielded on this issue.
    In the Tvijja Sutta the Buddha declared that the Vedas were a waterless desert, a pathless jungle–in fact, perdition. No man with intellectual and moral thirst can go to the Vedas and hope to satisfy his thirst.
    http://www.metta.lk/tipitaka/2Sutta-Pitaka/1Digha-Nikaya/Digha1/13-tevijja-e.html

    • U are entitled to your opinion, but we have right to defend our faith.
      If you feel Vedas are not for you then no problem.
      Here is essence of vedas, please feel free to disagree with the below:
      The last Sukta of Rigveda (10.191) summarizes the whole essence of what humans should do to imbibe the Vedas. The entire Vedas have to be understood in context of this Sukta which emphasizes on the most differentiating trait of human beings – unity – in purpose, method and approach. Here is a summary list of the dictates of Vedic religion in this Sukta:
      Rigveda 10.191.2
      – walk together in the path of truth without bias, injustice and intolerance
      – talk to each other to enhance knowledge, wisdom and affection without malice and hatred
      – keep working together to enhance knowledge and bliss
      – follow the path of truth and selflessness as exemplified by noble people
      Rigveda 10.191.3
      – Your analysis of right and wrong should be unbiased and not specific to particular set of people
      – You should organize together to help everyone enhance their health, knowledge and prosperity
      – Your minds should be devoid of hatred and should see progress and happiness of all as one’s own progress and happiness and you should only act for enhancement of happiness of all based on truth
      – Work together to eradicate falsehood and discover truth
      – Never ever deviate from path of truth and unity
      Rigveda 10.191.4
      – Your efforts should be full of enthusiasm and for bliss of everyone
      – Your emotions should be for one and all and love everyone the way you love yourself
      – Your desire, resolve, analysis, faith, abstinence, patience, keenness, focus, comfort etc all should be towards truth and bliss for all, and away from falsehood.
      – Keep working in synergy to increase each others’ knowledge and bliss.
      PS have no interest in swallowing another faith, this is typical baloney spouted by anti hindu muppets

  13. please don’t feel offended agniveer ji but Manu Smriti says that there are only three types of persons who are allowed to be praised- विद्यास्नातक , व्रत स्नातक and विद्याव्रतस्नातक . Gautam buddha was none of these. Mohammad also should not be praised. Both – gautam buddha and Mohammad were not even Brahmachari according to Rigvedaadibhashya bhumika and Satyarth Prakash. Please praise Yajyavalkya, Krishna, Bhishma, Ram , Dayanand, Patanjali, Gautam rishi etc. 🙂
    Thanks
    Basant Jhariya
    ex-Ritambhara prajyawaan

  14. Gautam Buddha was an illegal Sanyasi . he was shudra. Manu smriti says that those sanyasi who leave vedas are shudra. Dayanand said that those who do not study vedas are equal to goat’s breasts. See Satyarth Prakash.

    • @Mantra Drishta : you proxy invokes kind of a mixed feeling.Gautam bhudda never had a chance to go to a gurukul so the fault is his parent’s not his.

    • ERM Manu smrtri is not holy text, so why do u quite this can you respond articles by agniveer on this website. Your knowledge on Hinduism is severly lacking

  15. “Gautam bhudda never had a chance
    to go to a gurukul so the fault is his parent’s not
    his.”
    Gautam buddha was not eligible to enter sanyas according to Manu Smriti. First – he was not Brahman-learned of vedas. Second- he did not believed on God. third- Manu smriti clearly says that only brahmanas are allowed to enter sanyas. Manu Smriti Says that those who do not study vedas becomes shudra soon. Manu Smriti says that a Sanyasi should leave all karmas but not the study of the vedas because leaving study of vedas makes him shudra. fourth- manu smriti says that we should praise only विद्यास्नातक , व्रतस्नातक and विद्याव्रतस्नातक . he was none of these. that’s why Gautam buddha should not be praised.

    • and how do you become brahman? as per you?
      its only post gurukula that one may become a brahman. Birth based cased system is puranic period invention.

    • you have a very weak perceptive powers. you said
      Gautam buddha was not eligible to enter sanyas according to Manu Smriti. First – he was not Brahman-learned of vedas.
      i was responding to that,
      no one believes in birth based caste system here.
      i would suggest you get some meditation and follow Gautam in the real sense, rather than frying up your brain here. with your presumptions and ignorance.
      Bhuddam sharanam gachammi

  16. Dayanand saraswati never advised reading Tripitak or other bogus texts. Gautam buddha was not mahatma. i have proof from vedas – रुचं ब्राह्मं जनयन्तो देवा अग्रे तदब्रुवन यस्त्वैवं ब्राह्मणों विद्यात तस्य देवा असन वशे। this mantra proves that gautam buddha was not having his senses under control. if he was not having his senses under control then he is fraud. you are very weak at spirituality . try following Brahmacharya. Try to realize God.

      • @Ankur
        i think you have not read Rigvedadibhashya bhumika. Hindi translation is given there. Mantra does not say that someone dead does not have sense control. Mantra says the following- जो ब्रह्म का ज्ञान है वही अत्यन्त आनन्द का करने वाला और उस विद्वान् की उसमे रूचि का बढ़ाने वाला है। जिस ज्ञान को विद्वान् अन्य मनुष्यों के आगे उपदेश कर देते हैं। जो इस प्रकार से ब्रह्म को जानता है उसी की मन आदि इन्द्रिय संयम में हो जाती है अन्य की नहीं। Please go and check the meaning 🙂

  17. Basant, “Vidya dadaati vinayam”. Please speak sweet. You could have used the word invite instead of challenge. You are loosing credibility though you have good knowledge of vedas/shastras. Please maintain dignity. You have a bright future. Please be a saadhak.
    May god bless you.

  18. RamNarayan ji namaste,
    I think agniveer ji is not understanding the रुचं ब्राह्मं mantra . this mantra clearly proves that Gautam buddha was not having his senses under control. If Gautam buddha was not Jitendriya then all his Karmas were fruitless. Manu smriti and Satyarth Prakash call them Vipradusht विप्रदुष्ट . there is one more mantra in vedas – ऋचो अक्षरो परमो व्योमेन … this mantra reveals that those who do not know God’s qualities can never be happy. Thus gautam buddha was not even a happy person. A fraud Sanyasi had told me to emulate Gautam Buddha’s Apar and Par vairagya. I emulated. after emulation my mind went full of sorrows. and my mental functions got seriously damaged for a year. That’s why i don’t want others to suffer the same.

  19. You are right Agniveer. Buddhism ( I would add Jainism also) was natural reaction to prevailing ironies in the society in that time. In my opinion, both Jainism and Buddhism were born in Kali Yug and that’s why they lack in basic understanding of God.

  20. You’ve put in a lot of effort to come to a certain conclusion but unfortunately, your timeline is incorrect. In starting it would be good to know that the Yoga Sutras, Manusmriti, Gita, the extant versions of the Mahabharata and Ramayana all came after the Pali canon and in fact were a reaction to the Buddhist teaching. The Canon also heavily influenced medieval philosophies of Sankara and Vedanta. There’s lack of historicity among most people as it has been deliberately confused.

  21. I am waiting for the debate. Come and have debate on every issue Sanjeev. If you can not then I challenge Vashi to have debate with me on this issue . Vashi at least you are a Brahmachari. You can have debate with me.

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  23. As to what he thought about them, here’s a passage from the Jatakas that exemplifies his thoughts while still a Bodhisatta (and rhymes, too):
    “These Veda studies are the wise man’s toils,
    The lure which tempts the victims whom he spoils;
    A mirage formed to catch the careless eye,
    But which the prudent passes safely by.
    The Vedas have no hidden power to save
    The traitor or the coward or the knave;
    The fire, though tended well for long years past,
    Le

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