Demands/questions

1. Real name of this rascal be made public.

2. New name given to this rascal be made public

3. Latest Picture be made public

4. Whereabouts be made public

5. Under which law was his real name kept secret?

5. Why was a Hindu-sounding misleading alias assigned to him?

6. Who will guaranty that this man will not rape/kill innocents again? Any medical/psychological tests conducted? Where are reports? He was sent to reform center to be reformed. What is the confirmatory evidence that he has been reformed. Make every evidence public

7. Why were the victim’s parents detained, even temporarily, when the pig was set free? What was their crime? Under which section? Which section says that it is a crime to be parents of an innocent girl whose rapist and killer is being rewarded for his ghastly act? Which section says that parents must not express agony in witnessing state-sponsored transformation of a rapist-murderer into a full-blown Jihadi who is threat to every woman in world.

8. The pig was gifted with Rs 10,000 and a sewing machine. Why? What sin have the others committed that they are not entitled to this scheme? Sin of not inserting rod inside an innocent, taking out intestines by hand, and calling her- Jaa Mar Saali?

9. Won’t his victorious and successful story of raping a girl and later ending up getting rewarded inspire someone aged 17 years, 11 months and 29 days to kill the bastard some day and expect similar rewards 3 years later?

Punishment-or-Reward

10. How long will it take to change the Juvenile law which was also raped and abused during this whole span that protected most brutal rapist killer of human history with such ease?

11. There are reports that the remorseless pig has turned into a Jihadi in reform house. He is proud to have beaten the law after committing a crime for which in any other sane country, even a 12 year old would be have given death sentence. He is inspired by ISIS as per information from reform house. What measures have been taken to guarantee that he does not rape and kill like ISIS? Make them public.

12. Has the pig ever expressed desire to apologize to parents of Nirbhaya and plead forgiveness from them? If yes, when is he being taken there. Is there any evidence that he has ever shown remorse? Make public.

13. Why was ‘rarest of rare’ doctrine not explored to give death sentence to this pig? If it is technically impossible, how could it have been used in past to award death sentences in other cases. Was that a technical misuse?

We need answers right now.

And appeal to all who were pained by tragedy of Nirbhaya to make every attempt to find every bit of information about the fake-juvenile rascal Mohd. Afroz and make public on social media. His picture, new name, whereabouts, daily routine etc. What happened to one Nirbhaya must not happen with anyone in any situation. And law of natural justice is more powerful than man-made laws that reward rapists and murderers. We must deal with such laws in same way as Bhagat Singh and Shivaji did.

Vande Mataram. Jai Hind.

– Agniveer

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  1. ACCORDING TO ISLAM:
    5:5. ………….not committing illegal sexual intercourse, nor taking them as girl-friends. And whosoever disbelieves in the Oneness of Allâh and in all the other Articles of Faith [i.e. His (Allâh’s), Angels, His Holy Books, His Messengers, the Day of Resurrection and Al¬Qadar (Divine Preordainments)], then fruitless is his work, and in the Hereafter he will be among the losers.
    16: 90. Verily, Allâh enjoins Al-Adl (i.e. justice and worshipping none but Allâh Alone – Islâmic Monotheism) and Al-Ihsân [i.e. to be patient in performing your duties to Allâh, totally for Allâh’s sake and in accordance with the Sunnah (legal ways) of the Prophet SAW in a perfect manner], and giving (help) to kith and kin (i.e. all that Allâh has ordered you to give them e.g., wealth, visiting, looking after them, or any other kind of help, etc.): and forbids Al-Fahshâ’ (i.e all evil deeds, e.g. illegal sexual acts, disobedience of parents, polytheism, to tell lies, to give false witness, to kill a life without right, etc.), and Al-Munkar (i.e all that is prohibited by Islâmic law: polytheism of every kind, disbelief and every kind of evil deeds, etc.), and Al-Baghy (i.e. all kinds of oppression), He admonishes you, that you may take heed.
    Stone death for adultery
    24: 2. The woman and the man guilty of illegal sexual intercourse, flog each of them with a hundred stripes. Let not pity withhold you in their case, in a punishment prescribed by Allâh, if you believe in Allâh and the Last Day. And let a party of the believers witness their punishment. (This punishment is for unmarried persons guilty of the above crime but if married persons commit it, the punishment is to stone them to death, according to Allâh’s Law).
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 93 :: Hadith 633
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 89 :: Hadith 37,280
    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 82 :: Hadith 805,806,807,808,809,810,813,814,816,821,826
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 91 :: Hadith 365

    • Brother,

      Muhammad broke all idols and killed or butchered people when he started this religion. This is what religion of peace is? Come out of this else whole world will burn. The more islam spreada the more blood shed..

      • plz prove with evidence…..
        Prophet tries to stops killing innocent people:
        Muslim :: Book 19 : Hadith 4399
        It has been narrated on the authority of Abdullah b. Muti’ who heard from his father and said: I heard the Holy Prophet (may peace be upon him) say on the day of the Conquest of Mecca: No Quraishite will be killed hound hand and foot from this day until the Day of judgment.
        Muslim :: Book 7 : Hadith 3142
        Abu Huraira, (Allah be pleased with him) reported. When Allah, the Exalted and Majestic, granted Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) victory over Mecca, he stood before people and praised and extolled Allah and then said:…………it (this territory) was not violable to anyone before me and it was made violable to me for an hour of a day, and it shall not be violable to anyone after me. So neither molest the game, nor weed out thorns from it. And it is not lawful for anyone to pick up a thing dropped but one who makes public announcement of it. And it a relative of anyone is killed he is entitled to opt for one of two things. Either he should be paid blood-money or he can take life as (a just retribution).

      • shree shabbeer ji “innocent”?
        muhammadd ji ne makka ko jitne ke bad gair muslimo ko makka chodne ka adesh diya tha yaa jaan se marane ki baat kahi ya islam svikarne ki baat kahi kya yah pidit [innocent] vyakti par atayachaar nahi kaha jayega !
        1445 saalo se gair muslimo ka makka aur madeena nagar me parvesh varjit hai !
        saoodee arab me gair muslimo ka apne dhang se ishvar ki ARADHNA KARNA SAKHT MANA HAI KYA YAH ATYACHAAR NAHI KAHA JAYEGA
        KYA DUNIYA KE KISI BHI MIUSLIM NETA NE IS ATYACHAAR KA VIRODH KIYA

    • 1. Which of the following below is true?

      A) God is present everywhere
      B) God is present nowhere
      C) God is present somewhere (somewhere strictly mean Jannat or Allah’s throne above 7 heavens)
      D) In idol

      2. Who will be the permanent resident (Green card holder) of Hell?

      A) Great Ghazi Kings like Mohammed Bin Qasim who killed several thousand Hindu men in Sind and Multan and then captured weeping 100,000 women and children ,made them slaves and send 30,000 of them to Iraq who after doing all these say (In Arabic) “Allah is great; There is no god but Allah and Mohammed is his prophet” five times a day 11) And then another Ghazi king Mahmud who killed ,enslaved 500,000 Hindus of Afghanistan, FATA, Khyberpakhtoonkhwa and Punjab.

      B) A Hindu who does not harm any one follow Ahimsa, worship forms of God (or signs of God) Lord Shiva, Lord Vishnu by worshipping the idols of pristine temples

      c) Allah is the best judge. Allah knows the Best

      3. Select from below the TRUE statement?

      A) Smart Musa Nabi who can distinguish the sentence in Arabic he heard to be from Allah and understand that it is not made by some one using loud speaker. Btw he saw a bush fire which is sign from Allah ???

      B) Not so smart Moses of Christians and Jews, who will doubt whether the sentence (in Hebrew/Aramaic/Canaanite/ancient Egyptian), is from Yahweh or some one using loudspeaker; so Yahweh appeared as a boy (like in movie “Exodus Gods and kings”) or rather made Moses saw a boy’s image speaking

      C) God appears as Lord Shiva, Godess Durga to dumb Hindu bhaktas

      4). which of below is most logical?

      A) Soul has birth (DOB?) and death
      B) Soul has no birth or death
      C) Soul has no birth (ie soul is never created) but has death (it will be destroyed)
      D) Soul has birth (ie soul is created by Allah) but has no death…

      • allah is not beyond time as heaven and hell will not be destroyed per quran. time has no end per quran. So does universe (heaven and hell)– will not end per quran. Qayamat is end of earth only according to quran.

        How can rooh sit in qabr and get another body on judgement day. How this body will last forever in heaven or hell. Is it fair for Allah to send some one eternally to hell for finite crimes he did?

        answer in logical terms and don’t resort to attacking other religions if you can’t defend islam

        Allah in heaven mentioned by Pickthall and yusuf ali…

        Yusuf Ali on sura 67:16

        Do ye feel secure that He Who is in heaven will not cause you to be swallowed up by the earth when it shakes (as in an earthquake)?

        Now Pickthall:-
        Have ye taken security from Him Who is in the heaven that He will not cause the earth to swallow you when lo! it is convulsed ?

      • Where is allha?
        The true believer affirms that Allah is ascended above His throne, above the seven heavens.
        67:17-18 Are you sure that He Who is Above the heaven will not cleave the earth beneath you? Or are you sure that He Who is above the heaven will not send against you a stone-charged hurricane.
        57:4 He it is Who created the heavens and the earth in Six Days, and then ascened the Throne. He knows what enters within the earth and what comes forth out of it, what comes down from heaven and what mounts up to it. And He is with you wheresoever ye may be. And Allah sees well all that ye do.
        To some, this verse may appear to be advancing two conflicting ideas. On one hand, it says that Allah is ascended over the throne, over the seven heavens, while later it says that He is with us wherever we are. The latter concept is known as Allah’s maiyyah, or the nature of His closeness to us.
        11:7 He it is Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days – and His Throne was over the waters – that He might try you, which of you is best in conduct…
        let us examine so related narrations:
        In Sahih Muslim, it is recorded that Abdullah bin `Amr
        bin Al-`As said that the Messenger of Allah said,
        Verily Allah measured the amount of sustenance
        of the creatures fifty thousand years before He
        created the heavens and the earth, and His
        Throne was over the water.
        Who is a Permanent green card holder of hell?
        6: 151. Say (O Muhammad SAW): “Come, I will recite what your Lord has prohibited you from: Join not anything in worship with Him; be good and dutiful to your parents; kill not your children because of poverty – We provide sustenance for you and for them; come not near to Al-Fawâhish (shameful sins, illegal sexual intercourse, etc.) whether committed openly or secretly, and kill not anyone whom Allâh has forbidden, except for a just cause (according to Islâmic law). This He has commanded you that you may understand.

      • Shabeer,

        You didn’t got my question at all… You said “67:17-18 Are you sure that He Who is Above the heaven will not cleave the earth beneath you? Or are you sure that He Who is above the heaven will not send against you a stone-charged hurricane”… Now this over the heaven is a modern translation. Some hindu asked you is your God in heaven and you changed the meaning of67:17itself. Pickthall and Yusuf ali clearly says in heaven…This contradict quran that it is clear word from God. I wonder the problem is with Arabic or quran that one person translate it as in the heaven and another as over…..

        Either way God cannot be bound by a space. This is my point…Now Allah is punishing some one for eternity….a cruel muslim he will ultimately send to heaven but a idol worshipping nice person is eternally send to hell…How fair is allah’s judgement???

      • i answered the question by islamic scriptures…………here the one more
        “His throne does extend over the heavens
        And the earth.
        And He feels no fatigue in guarding and
        Preserving them
        For He is the most high
        The supreme (in glory)’’ (2: 255)
        ibn katheer say “His Kursi extends over the heavens and the earth.”

        Allha the supreme creator/controller of all the matters ,his power inscribed all the matters……..cruel Muslim ever going to haven,plz read my last post again , killing innocent people will going to hell…what about # idol worshipping nice person#….here we the created human we should follow the rule of our creator,allha says 3:19 Truly, the religion with Allah is Islam…allha accept only Islamic way of life from the human being ,according to islam a act should being moral it satisfy three condition 1)he believed allha creator of universe/pray alone to him/he has the greatest power (there are 99 difference between allha and the rest of his created universes,his 99 name indicated that) 2) act should be ordered from quran or sunna 3) he never expect any physical earning from that,only love of creator and desire of haven… according to Islamic believe hell and havens are different categories and classification,ppl are going to their place according how moral are they in their physical life….
        why can’t he be seen god? last answer i says we r living inside this physical world,our brain and sense organ suited to live and learn the things inside this physical world,this is human nature,god created us like that, god nature beyond our power and imagination,he beyond this physical world,but his power(not him) exist all the matters our universe,mosess(a) heard his sound bec’s he that part of allha will ” mu’jizath ” 7: 188. Say (O Muhammad SAW): “I possess no power of benefit or hurt to myself except as Allâh wills. If I had the knowledge of the Ghaib (unseen), I should have secured for myself an abundance of wealth, and no evil should…

      • Still didn’t answer questions. So are you saying God is present everywhere according to islam ? If so is Allah in hell too? What about quran 67:16-18 which clearly says Allah is in hell. All 20th century translations of quran lie pickthall and Yusuf ali, translates allah in heaven only. If you translate it to be Above the heaven then that contradicts quran as clear word of Allah..

        Secondly, bad muslims ultimately go to heaven. Except shirk Allah forgives everything. My real problem is punishing some one eternally. That’s injustice. For finite crimes punishment cannot be infinite.

        God cannot be seen ; I agree. But what makes God accessible to ears? Is it not unfair God is accessed by ears and not by eyes? This is my question…This is my problem with myth of allah speaking to musa nabi.Answers must be logical rather than based on blind faith on some quranic statements

      • Muslim :: Book 1 : Hadith 371
        Yazid al-Faqir said: This view of the Khwarij (i. e. those who commit major sins and would be eternally doomed to Hell)
        Muslim :: Book 1 : Hadith 159 ,160
        Ubaidullah b. Abu Bakr said: I heard Anas b. Malik saying: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) talked about the major sins, or he was asked about the major sins. Upon this he observed: Associating anyone with Allah, killing of a person, disobedience to parents. He (the Holy Prophet further) said: Should I not inform you about the gravest of the major sins, and (in this connection) observed: False utterance or false testimony. Shu’ba said. It was most probably” false testimony”.
        Is Fire/boy sign of Allah?
        7: 143. And when Mûsa (Moses) came at the time and place appointed by Us, and his Lord spoke to him, he said: “O my Lord! Show me (Yourself), that I may look upon You.” Allâh said: “You cannot see Me, but look upon the mountain if it stands still in its place then you shall see Me.” So when his Lord appeared to the mountain, He made it collapse to dust, and Mûsa (Moses) fell down unconscious. Then when he recovered his senses he said: “Glory be to You, I turn to You in repentance and I am the first of the believers.”
        144. (Allâh) said: “O Mûsa (Moses) I have chosen you above men by My Messages, and by My speaking (to you). So hold that which I have given you and be of the grateful.”
        First Here not mentioned ‘fire ‘ and ‘ boy ’ that may be mentioned Jew/Christian scriptures, they are not true believer according to Islam.plz ask them to it. Second the above verses Allah says “You cannot see Me “, that means as a human musa(a) cannot see the Allah………….

      • I am not believing in Christianity or Judaism either. My question was if God is accessible by one sense (ear through hearing) why can’t he be seen??? Through eyes(seeing)??? Story of musa asking muslims to believe that you can hear God (ear can know him) but not eyes.

      • 5: 44. Verily, We did send down the Taurât (Torah) [to Mûsa (Moses)], therein was guidance and light, by which the Prophets, who submitted themselves to Allâh’s Will, judged the Jews. And the rabbis and the priests [too judged the Jews by the Taurât (Torah) after those Prophets] for to them was entrusted the protection of Allâh’s Book, and they were witnesses thereto. Therefore fear not men but fear Me (O Jews) and sell not My Verses for a miserable price. And whosoever does not judge by what Allâh has revealed, such are the Kâfirûn (i.e. disbelievers – of a lesser degree as they do not act on Allâh’s Laws).
        # Soul has birth and death..
        Allha beyond the time and space, we human and every matter in our universe inside this physical world ,according to physical science every matters under the time/space quanity ,that we need a starting(birth) and ending point (death),allha the creator of the universe beyond our physical world ,we can’t measure/understand his nature within our physical sense ,we r suited to studied inside our universe ,even we don’t know how many cells are present our body or how many hairs are there in our head, we don’t know ,can we swim like fish..no fly like birds ..no ,can human created an atom(the basic elements of matters) no……that means we r not a super human ,Allah created us like that ,so we want to know any spiritual things we should follow the true prophets……………..
        How can rooh sit in qabr?
        Physically is possible? Can we dig some earth, can we see any human? No
        Islam says they are in spiritual world, they know whether they r going to hell or heaven every morning and evening, criminals getting punishment, how can i know these things i am not super human to understand theses all ,but i believe bec’s 1400 y’rs ago a man lived Mecca his name was Muhammad(s), the people call him al amen(trustful),he ever says lie, he bring the Quran the scriptures from the almighty Allah..

      • Given below is a list of some of the evidences in support of the
        divine nature of the Qur’an:
        1. It , itself, declares that it is a divine Scripture
        2. It shall remain unchanged upto the Last Day.
        3. The path of right conduct that it prescribes is faultless.
        4. It is practicable.
        5. The history that it teaches is faultless and honest.
        6. Its literature is incomparable.
        7. The prophecies made in it can be seen to have come true.
        8. The references in it to the varied phenomena of nature, as
        representing the signs of God, are free of controversies.
        9. There is no reference, whatsoever, of an unscientific nature in it.
        10. It is free of all contradictions.
        11. None has been able to take up the challenge it poses when it calls
        forth all, and any, to produce an equivalent of at least one of its
        chapters.
        12. The person who was appointed with it in the world was himself of a truthful and selfless nature.

        NO RELIGIOUS SCRIPTURE ON EARTH THAT SATISFY THESE 12 CONDITION OF DIVINITY ,IF IT THERE ,PLZ BRING THE EVIDENCE AND PROVE IT ….OR NOT ACCEPT PROPHET MUHAMMED(S) BEING A TRUSTFUL PROPHET AND QURAN BEING A DIVINE TRUTH FROM THE CREATOR MANKIND AND REST OF UNIVERSE……..

      • I will explain soul concept of Hinduism .Then you will realize how stupid is Islamic concept of after life and soul…

        Soul is “I” self or Atman.. You have a feeling of I , my, mine. This I consciousness is proof that you have soul. Now a robot man has a mechanical body like your biological body. It has a mind (It’s CPU and functioning) just as you have mind (your brain and it’s functioning + memory). But robot has no feeling of I, my mine (Self). This proves that it has no soul. Now this soul is absolute reality and only existing Brahmam (God). Once you realize your true self you attain salvation from cycle of births. Else you will be born has a bull. You still has bull’s body and bull’s mind

      • regarding your 12 signs (points) on validity of Quran I am not the right person to answer. Please visit faith freedom and Ali Sina ‘s site. He clearly refuted all the 12 statements you made as mere stupidity and fancy of muslims

      • where is u’r soul before u’r birth? and after the death?
        1) According to the theory of Reincarnation, a brahmanan or superior class people, they don’t know what are the good things did their past lives?
        2) According to the theory of Reincarnation, a chandalan or street dogs can’t understand what are the sinned did their past lives? That is they never and ever bothered about what they did their past lives.
        3) How can we say that life of Brahman’s are superior, in India many Brahman’s are live like poor family, many of them are lived Painless. Their birth was superior, but their life style sadness. How can it consider as paradise?
        4) We can’t saw even a single verse from rig Veda about Reincarnation, but Veda mention the life after death. It indicate that period of Veda saint does not understand Reincarnation. Death, judgment day and life after death rig Veda indicate life experience of another world. Reincarnation making by people for little profit. We can’t saw even single verses from Upanishath.
        5) We can saw the verses from Upanishath that after the dead good people going to haven, they never died.( Shwethashathora Upanishath
        3:10), (Eshavaswa Upanishath 14, 12, 3)
        There is contradiction between the Hindu belief and Veda; here we can saw that the Brahmins are dead, upanishith say “they never died”.
        6) “No fear, not wrinkled and always happy” (kado Upanishath 12).contradiction again, the entire Human got fear, unhappy and wrinkled.
        7) Reincarnation was created by rishis like king Jaiwaly and Brahman Aruni from chandyokath during the period of ‘vidika karmakanda’; because people deviated from the path of truth and morality. They make Reincarnation for hold the people trust. (Vishwa darshanam rahul samskrithyayan page 579)

      • Now i am telling u soul(not god) has two part,first part Allha inscribed /bounded his law in it 2) allha freed for human(they can choose the right or wrong),consider a some cruel person beat a weak person(old or child),naturally surrounding human being (whether they r hindu/muslim)we feel sympathy for the weak person ,that is allha inscribed some part of mercy in our soul,but we r not robot,allha freed other part of the soul for the human we can decided our own destiny,the first part of the soul help us to lead clear path of our creator…
        contradiction to concept of avatar
        He(god) is beyond the imagination of death. Atharvved 13:4:4
        sah akayam – He is bodiless and pure. Yajurved 40:8
        There is no image of that God, remembering him itself is great act. Yajurved 32:3
        Na mamar na jiiryati – He does not die,nor grows old. Atharvved 10:8:32
        then how can?
        Vishnu (god) are:Matasya Avtaar i.e. God reincarnated as Fish,Kaschap Avtaar i.e. God reincarnated as Tortoise,Varaah Avtaar i.e. God reincarnated as Pig.
        #Now demi gods like Indra,Vayu has death. Their duration is one manwantara only.
        Rig Veda says it were Vedic deities Indra and Varuna who created all living creatures,
        Rig Veda 7.82.5 O Indra-Varuna, as ye created all these creatures of the world by your surpassing might…#Soma is extracted. It is not at all intoxicating…
        Veda introduce soma the powerful alcohol (Rig-Veda 8:48 36.)
        Detail description about after effect of soma (shukla yejur veda shabada brahmana 7:3:2:1-3)
        Indra drink alcohol (somarasm) and he killed varthyan (Rig Veda 2:15:4)
        now promote drink Rigveda 9:106:8, the gods are said to drink Soma to attain immortality (tvaam vaaso amritaaya kam papuh).

        i think lying is part of hinduism?
        Matysa Purana 31.16 ”Sarmistha said:- ”King! there is no sin in speaking untruth at the time of indulging in sexual pleasures, Mahabharata 1.82 “Sarmishtha then said, ‘It hath been said, O king, that it is not sinful to lie on the occasion of a joke

      • First of all Hindusim is absolute monistic religion. God (Parabrahmam) is absolute reality and only existing entity. There is no second entity. Vedas states it. Muslims have translated it to mean that Vedas says that there is no second God.

        Universe, space, mind, time all are illusion and non existant. However God assumes maya and takes avatars and many forms. If he can take one form he can assume multiple. Thus you will see monotheism, Polytheism and henotheism in Hinduism but that does not contradict absolute monism(Advaita)

        There is no contradictions in Hinduism contrary to critics of Hindusim says. Its anti Hindus who spread this myth. For learned Brahmin, there is no contradiction seen in Vedas, Puranas and scriptures.

        Great rishis were clear on reincarnation so am I (I’m little arrogant here which is bad:) ).

        Now coming to your questions.

        Soul is = paramatma = para brahmam. Jeevatma is exactly same as God. Soul is associated by maya with body and mind. Ignorant jiva associates self with body and mind. So question of where is soul before birth is equal to where is God?

        Anyway self was undergoing transmigration, so before birth soul was associated with previous birth.

        1) Brahmin is superior because he is spiritually more evolved .Those lives who acquired lot of punya (good merits) will be born as a religious and vedic Brahmin

        2) No one remembers past life. The Self is feeling of “I”.Past memories & mind perish with brain of past life. Only the self(I) continues. It acquires new body and mind.

        3) Are Brahmins of India truly following Sruti(Vedas) and smritis(Dharmasutras)?? If they follows they are blessed. In this kaliyuga it is difficut to find one. Secondly is wealth a measure of good life or good qualities and discipline? Nowadays wealth alone has become a measure of respect

      • 4)Vedas speak about reincarnation. Adi Sankara clearly beleives in reincarnation and moksha(salvation). Even he says going to heaven istemporary. Btw Adi Sankara always quote from Vedas and upanishads (Last part of veda) only

        ā ta etu mana punah kratve dakshāya jīvase,

        Jyok ca sūryam drishe. Rig Veda 10.4.57.4

        “May your spirit return again, to perform pure acts for exercising strength, and to live long to see the sun.”

        savitā te shridebhyah prthivyām lokamicchatu,

        tasmai yujyantAmustriyāh. Yajur Veda 35.2

        “The sun God grants bodies in different births, according to your deeds, providing a happy or unhappy place on this earth. May radiant beams prove helpful to you.”

        5) You said “We can saw the verses from Upanishath that after the dead good people going to haven, they never died”

        True, if you do vedic sacrifices, as yajamana 100 times you can become Indra in some manwantara.Those who are religious go to heaven ,but it’s temporary . Moksha is permanent when your self identifies with Brahmam or Shiva or Godess or Vishnu.

        Islam’s soul concept is not clear. That’s why you seek help from Vedas I guess. I do not understand what you mean by saying soul has two parts. Allah made two part of soul what do you mean exactly. Please don’t paste some crap from Quran which is based on blind faith. Answer logically

        Again ,Indra in Veda can mean a demigod,King, supreme Lord sometimes and Vishnu or Shiva
        Everyone knows that Chamakam (in vedas) is dedicated to Lord Shiva. One anuvaka says “Agnischama Indraschame, marutaschama indraschame) etc. It means Lord Shiva is the indra(king) of Agni,maruts etc. Here Indra king of demigods is not invoked. Also in Vedas, Agni is identified as Rudra or Shiva. The trimurtis(Shiva, Vishnu & Brahma) appears in Vedas as Indra, Agni and Surya

      • I didnt lie on Soma drink. This is extracted in vedic sacrifies . There are soma yagam and Agni(Athirathram)happening rarely. The soma created is not alcohol. Do some research ..Frits Stall has written a book on agni sacrifice. Indra might have killed Vritrasura drinking soma .So what do you try to prove here?.

        Lastly Sharmishtha was a Asura (demon) princess who loved Yayati (kshatriya of lunar race)and What she told is not Hindu thought.Hindu books speak about dialogues of asura kings,Ravana,Duryodhana etc. Do they represent Hindu Shastras?? it shows how arrogant and ignorant people think.

        Now coming to islam. I will make it simple for you

        What is soul according to islam? I think there is no soul proper concept. When i die ,according to islam my rooh(now what isit???is it memory saved in some disk???) will sit some where. Then I am resurrected. I will get a body which will last forever and never die. Some how my old memories(rooh???) will be restored by new body.Then Allah will ask me a question 1) Did you perform idol worship? Did you assigned partners to me? Then Allah will send me to hell.

        My body will last in hell fire forever. Hell also will last forever. Time , universe, hell , heaven, Satan, my rooh, my body which i got on judgement day everything has an origin but no end .Is this your concept ? say yes or no

      • first brother look the mirror and ask
        “hrishea manthrakritham”(creator of mantra was rishis)(Rig Veda 1:114:2)
        ” shishurva agiriso manthrakitham manthrakitha seeth “(shishu angirish was one of the creators of manthra)(thandey brahmanam 13:3:24)
        ” sarva rishi manthrakrith “(all the rishis are creator of manthra)(eythareya brahmanam 6:1)
        ” nama rishibo manthrakrith “(welcome rishis that creator of mantra)(thitheerrya aranykam 4:1:1)
        WHO R THE CREATOR OF MANTHRA?
        Contradiction about period of Composition (Bagavath geetha):
        ‘5 century before Jesus'(Indian Philosophy, Vol 1, Page 524)(Gita Rahasyam, Page 270)
        ‘4 centuries before jesus'(R.G. Bhandarkar: The Original Gita, Page 14)
        ‘3 centuries before jesus'(Quoted by K.N. Upadhyaya: Early Buddhism and Bhagavad-Gita Gita, Page 1)
        WHEN?
        Who was superior siva or vishnu?
        Sivan is greater and superior than Vishnu and Brahma (sharabo Upanishath 30:31)
        Vishnu is the greater and superior than Siva and Brahma (thripadibuthi maha narayano Upanishath 1:1 to 7)
        HOW MANY GOD? FIRST ONE
        One god was the reason for all the creation. His existence was above the sky (Rig Veda 10:129:1,-2 – 0:129:6, 7)
        One god creates all the matters in our universe, Deity, paradise and earth. He is the source of all the good things so we pray to him only.
        (Rig Veda 10:-81:-1.)
        (Shwethashathora Upanishath 3:1)
        NOW SAY MORE GOD Rigveda 1:34:11
        “Come, O Nasatyas, with the thrice-eleven Gods; come, O Asvins, to the Rigveda 8:30:2,
        “Thus be ye lauded, ye destroyers of the foe, ye Three-and-Thirty Deities, The Gods of man, the Holy Ones.” Rigveda 1:139:11 says,
        “O ye Eleven Gods whose home is heaven, O ye Eleven who make earth your dwelling, Ye who with might, Eleven, live in waters, accept this sacrifice, O Gods, with pleasure.”

        THAT MEANS HINDUISM HAS NOT STABILITY /AUTHENTICITY /CONTRADICT ABOUT EVEN” THE BASIC ELEMENTS ” OF A RELIGION LIKE NUMBER OF GOD OR CREATOR OF SCRIPTURE LIKE THAT ,HOW DARE R U TO…

      • Mr Muslim,

        As expected you are attacking Hindu faith as you dont have answers to my questions. Your translation and interpretations of Vedas are wrong. For samhita part give meaning from Sayana Bhashya. For Brahmana and aranyaka part you may quote Adi Sankara’s commentary (Bhashya) . They are the authentic ones rather quoting from some english translation of Veda.

        Siva and Vishnu are same person with two different forms. To solidify bhaktai some purana says Vishnu is greatest, others say Shiva. There is only one entity who is para Brahmam. Vishnu and Shiva both realise the true nature of self (Brahmam conciousness) so they are equal and forms of GOD. Using maya God assumes different forms. There is no contradictions in Hinduism. The meaning of ekam sat viprah bahutha vadanti is “learned men seems to say different things but really they are all same. They say the same truth in different ways”. A learned person has no confusion and respect mimamsa, Vedanta, yoga, nyaya, vysheshika and sankhya as different paths to same truth and there is no contradictions. You does not seems to understand Hinduism

        Now mantra is not Vedas. Yes mantras has rishis. mantra has God , mantra as meter (in poetry). The rishi in chandas is the creator of mantra or person who attained siddhi using mantra. Actually rishi’s definition is mantra-data (mantra giver or one who attained siddhi using mantra)

        As far as HOW DARE I QUESTION ISLAM is concerned , let me ask you the same… HOD DARE YOU and people like Zakir naik comment on Veda misinterprets questions and quote from Veda? What right you have to speak about Veda? Who made you authoriy on Veda?

        I know Zakir is intrepreting isavasyopanishad. He is quoting from some stupid english translations. I know the authetic Adi Sankara bhashya. i can tell you later. This is how you cheat poor Hindus who do not know anything about Hinduism

      • NO REPLY MOST OF THEM ,REGULAR ESCAPING ENGLISH TRANSLATION WRONG ,THEN WHY NOT BRING THE EXACT ONE
        Idol worship contradicts Vedic mantr
        * Na tasya pratima asti yasya namah mahaddashah : “Of him (The God) there is no image. Remembering him is itself great act” Yajurved 32:3
        * God can not be grasped in any direction” Yajurved 32:2
        * Sah akayam: “He is bodiless” Yajurved 40:8
        * Andhatm pravishanti ya asambhti upaste… – “Those who worship asambhuti – they enter into darkness of tamas (part of hell). Those who worship sambhuti – they enter more into darkness of tamas (part of hell)”- Yajurved 40:9
        pray to many
        “Soma raja(alcohol) and varuna, all the karma belong to you. Your glory was powerful and expandable .soma like mithra and sun “(Rig-Veda 1:91:17.)
        “Hai! Sun! You remove the dark and spread the light; from your light you remove our starvation, selfishness, knowledge, nightmare and all pain,” (Rig-Veda 10:37:4)
        Rigveda 1:34:11 says,
        “Come, O Nasatyas, with the thrice-eleven Gods; come, O Asvins, to the drinking of the oblation. Make long our days of life, and wipe out all our sins: ward off our enemies; be with us evermore.”
        “Three times a hundred gods and thrice a thousand and three times ten and nine have worshipped Agni.” [Rigveda 3:9:9]
        All Gods who dwell on earth or in the heavens, in air, within the plants, the cows, the waters. Grant this man life to full old age, and let him escape the hundred other ways of dying.”Atharvaveda 1:30:3
        “Veneration to the great gods, veneration to the small gods : veneration to the young, veneration to the old. We worship (all) the gods as well as we are able; May I not omit the praise of the elder divinities.”Rigveda 1:27:13
        Rigveda 8:30:1
        “None of you, o gods, is small or young. You are all great.”
        In Rigved 9:87:2, Soma is said to be the father and skilful GENERATOR of the gods (pitaa devaanaam janitaa sudakshah).

      • Ok… These are interesting topics of zakir naik..

        Na tasya pratima asti yasya namah mahaddashah -Yes there is no image(for whom?) .ForNirguna para Brahmam. But Nirguna Brahmam is beyond senses and imagination (mind)… Cannot be worshipped by us… So God out of compassion assumed forms-Saguna Brahmam (Vishnu,Shiva) for us to worship. Idols are for saguna Brahmam only not for nirguna Brahmam.

        yasya namah – Does not mean remembering him…namah is name… it means Chant the name of Lord. Yes we chant the name of Lord Shiva, Narayana, Govinda, Gopala etc

        Now demi gods like Indra,Vayu has death. Their duration is one manwantara only. Iam worshipping Gods (Vishnu,Shiva, Durga) and demigods too.

        soma rasa- This is a plant extract. Alcohol is “Sura” not soma rasa. Even today Vedic sacrifices like soma yaga, Athirathram is happening in this world…. Soma is extracted. It is not at all intoxicating

        Andhatm pravishanti ya asambhti upaste

        Did’nt i told you zakir naik is misqutoing from isavasyopanishad??? This is precisely what it is…

        andhaṁ tamaḥ praviśanti ye’sambhūtim upāsate |
        tato bhuya iva te tamo ya u sambhutyāṁ ratāḥ ||12||

        next line

        anyad evahūḥ sambhavād anyad āhur asambhavāt |
        iti śuśruma dhīrāṇām ye nas tad vicacakṣire ||13||

        next line

        sambhūtiṁ ca vināśaṁ ca yas tad vedobhayaṁ saha |
        vināśena mṛtyuṁ tīrtvā sambhūtyā amṛtam aśnute ||14||-meaning by Sankaracharya

        sambhūtiṁ ca vināśaṁ ca (ca- cha means “AND” in sanskrit)
        Both Sambhuti(asambhuti) and vinasha(sambhuti)
        yas tad vedobhayaṁ saha (yas tad =as; saha= told; vedobhayam= in Vedas)

        As prescribed by Vedas or in accordance with Vedas

        vināśena mṛtyuṁ tīrtvā (Vinasena= by Vinasha(sambhuti)’ mrutyu=death; teerthua=fulfil or conquer)

        by sambhuti death is undone and

        sambhūtyā amṛtam aśnute = sambhuti(asambhuti) leads to amrutam(immortality)

      • So is isavasyopanishad so dumb to say that sambhuti and asambhuti worship leads to darkness and then next tonext sloka says byworhip ofsambhuti one conquer death and asambhtuti worship leads to amrutatwa(immortal nectar for eternal life)????

        Now Adi Sankaracharya’s meaning

        andhaṁ tamaḥ praviśanti ye’sambhūtim upāsate |
        tato bhuya iva te tamo ya u sambhutyāṁ ratāḥ ||12||

        They will enter darkness (who?) those who worship only Sambhuti (Sambhuti =vyakruta upasana / hiranyagarbhan the cosmic golden seed which is the copy cat of previous universe / Brahma the creator / Nirguna para Brahmam/ Para Brahmam /Lord Shiva/Avidtya or rituals)

        They will enter bigger darkness (who?) those who worship only Asambhuti (Asambhuti =Avyakruta upasana / Prakriti or natural law or nature/ Saguna Brahmam / Goddess Sree Parvathy/Vidya or worship of Gods) meaning both should go side by side. Here ONLY is important ….Anyway zakir naik’s definition of sambhuti and asambhuti is nonsence

      • you are right bro this man is just a fool he does not know any thing do not waste your time with such illiterates rather use this time to propagate
        Vedic philosophy among Hindus so that they could counter illetrates like shabeer

      • you know nothing and talk like you know every thing giving references do you know what does rishi mean

    • Hun,

      Trust us, we are all frustrated. The problem is the law. We want to change it, but there is a lot of bureaucracy. We don’t want people to take the law into their own hands either. Yes, it would be a justifiable act to kill this bastard, but this opens the door for more people to take the law into their own hands. And more people will think other things are okay.

      Currently there is a bill proposed in government to handle this. And we hope it passes, so future kids will be punished for such grave acts of crime. I hope it is retroactive, so it also gets the people who were released.

    • Why you people bringing religion into the matter,is this the battle between two communities?no, it simply the matter of crime and punishment.a criminal should be dealt according to the law of the country.

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