As per the likes of ‘liberal’ historians the best thing to have happened in medieval India was the reign of Mughals. The Mughals supposedly unleashed a never before witnessed era of development in India as per the canards floated by the leftist historians in India. But a little scrutiny in the deeds of the Mughal rulers exposes the truth about their misdeeds and how they were little interested in the welfare of their subjects.
The Mughal history is marred with cases of fratricide with Mughal princes fighting like chickens for the throne amongst themselves.
How rulers who were least bothered about their brothers, sons and fathers while fighting for the throne would care for the welfare of their subjects? How can Non-Muslims expect to be pardoned by these butchers who have not even spared their own fathers, brothers and family members? How can ordinary Muslim expect to get out of their clutches?
Let us see examples of the extent to which these butchers ‘ruling elite’ could go touting Islam as a religion of ‘peace’. In this chapter, we will look at ONLY one aspect – how they murdered and tortured their own blood relations and closest ones to capture the flag of Islam! Let us start from the long way before the advent of Islam in India.
After the death of Prophet Muhammad
There had not been even one single generation of Islamic rulers which did not murder its kins and relatives.
Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) – founder of Islam – is alleged to be assassinated by his own wives – Aisha and Hafsa as per all Shia scholars of Islam.
After Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), Abu Bakr became the Caliph (leader of Islam) overruling the Caliphate of Ali controversially. This caused the Shia-Sunni split. Ali was the son-in-law of Prophet and supposed to be most intelligent and closest to Prophet.
Abu Bakr is alleged to have been poisoned to death by a close associate.
Umar became the next Caliph but was murdered by a Muslim slave for curious reasons.
Uthman was next Caliph. He had the Quran compiled for the first time but was butchered allegedly by the son of Abu Bakr when he was reading Quran.
Finally, Ali became the Caliph but even he was murdered by his fellow-men while in Namaz.
Before this, Aisha – beloved wife of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and daughter of Abu Bakr who is supposed to have been divinely wed at the age of 6 to Prophet by Allah – waged war against Ali (Prophet’s son-in-law). Ali defeated her and made her captive in Medina. Even Aisha is supposed to have been murdered as per views of some scholars.
Hassan – son of Ali – was so scared by the murder of so many leaders of Islam that he refused to become the Caliph. He was, however, murdered by his own wife as part of a conspiracy of Muwaiah – governor of Egypt who had become Caliph due to the refusal of Hassan.
After Muwaiah, his son Yazeed became the Caliph. He is supposed to be the greatest butcher of all times. He had Hussain – another grandson of Prophet – murdered in the battle of Karbala. That is why Muharram happens. Muslim scholars like Zakir Naik have high respect for Yazeed despite all other sects of Islam hating him. This caused many sects to issue Fatwa on Zakir Naik.
With this murder, Caliphate became a hereditary privilege of Umayyad dynasty to which Muwaiah belonged. Now, after eliminating all followers and kins of Prophet, they started murdering their brothers and relatives to be the next Caliph.
After Islam invaded India
There had not been even one single generation of Islamic rulers which did not murder its kins and relatives.
Hardly a few years later, when Caliph Walid died, his brother Sulaiman became next Caliph and murdered all those who wanted to support Caliphate of Walid’s son.
Caliph Walid had sent Muhammad Bin Qasim to invade India. However, Sulaiman ordered that Qasim be sewed in oxen-skin and brought to him. This was because he feared that Qasim had violated virginity of daughters of Raja Dahir (last Hindu king of Sindh whom Qasim attacked and killed), whom he captured as sex-slaves as per holy book’s commands for Kafir women beforehand who were supposed to be Caliph’s virgin sex-slaves.
Many more Caliphs continued to be killed ‘unnaturally’ – poison, murder, ‘unknown diseases’ under conspiracy to control the ‘Islamic rule’.
For 250 years, Muslim rulers did not dare to attack India due to the defeats that Qasim had to face when Hindus retaliated. Then came the time of Mahmud of Ghazni – the second butcher to loot India with meticulous plans. This great ‘Islam propagator’ had nine wives and innumerable concubines. He ascended to the throne by imprisoning his brother to death who was the actual king nominated by their father, Subuktgeen.
After Mahmud had died, his sons Masud and Muhammad had a war for supremacy. Masud won and blinded his brother Muhammad. But Muhammad also conspired a revolt and got Masud captured.
Muhammad murdered Masud and became the Sultan. But after some time, Madud, son of Masud, conspired and got Muhammad captured. Muhammad and his son were murdered.
After Ghazni, for another 140 years, these rulers did not dare to attack India again because Ghazni’s nephew was defeated summarily by Hindus when he tried to attack India again.
Now, Muhammad Ghori was the third devil to invade India and break all records of treachery and butchery. He could not have any offspring and hence made his sex-slaves Qutubuddin Aibak and Bakhtiyar Khilji among others his successors.
His relative, Ali Mardan, murdered Bakhtiyar Khilji. His son Aram Shah succeeded Qutubuddin Aibak. But Aibak’s sex-slave cum son-in-law Iltutmish murdered him and became the next Sultan.
Iltutmish nominated his daughter Razia for Sultanate, but his son Rukunuddin captured the throne. Razia got him, and his mother murdered. Later Razia got into physical relation with a slave whom she then promoted as her Chief Adviser.
Meanwhile, Altunia, governor of Punjab rebelled and had Razia and her lover captured. The lover was murdered, and Razia was offered to his bed.
Meanwhile, another brother of Razia – Bahram Shah – usurped the throne of Delhi. Altunia and Razia came to fight him but were miserably defeated. They were murdered while running for their lives.
Bahram Shah was murdered, and Masud Shah (son of Rukunuddin) became the new emperor. Now, Masud Shah was overthrown by his brother Nasiruddin with the support of his son-in-law Balban – the greatest rapist of his times. Balban was originally male sex-slave of Iltutmish.
Balban poisoned Nasiruddin and became the emperor. Then he murdered his cousin Sherkhan Sikar in 1270. In 1287, he appointed Kay Khusaro as his heir but after his death, Balban’s grandson Qaiqabad became the emperor.
General Jalaluddin Khilji murdered Qaiqabad and his three-year-old son. Thus, slave dynasty ended, and Khilji dynasty began.
The Khilji Dynasty
There had not been even one single generation of Islamic rulers which did not murder its kins and relatives.
The notorious Alauddin Khilji was nephew cum son-in-law of Jalaluddin Khilji. In 1296, he murdered Jalaluddin and entered Delhi with uncle’s head on his pike (Bhala). Meanwhile Malikjahan – wife of Jalaluddin – made her son the next Sultan. Alauddin imprisoned Malikjahan and had her sons and other relatives blinded. Many other supporters of Malik Jahan were murdered, blinded or imprisoned. Their properties were annexed, and their women were forced to become part of Royal harem. Khilji even had his own wife and son imprisoned and another son killed.
Alauddin had a favourite male sex-slave Malik Kafur (another Hindu converted to Islam) who became his general. Immediately after poisoning Alauddin to death, he got his children blinded and murdered. And then he married Alauddin’s wife. One son of Alauddin, Mubarak Shah, escaped Malik and got him murdered instead. He also had his six-year-old brother Shiabuddin blinded and murdered.
Mubarak Shah took the title of Qutubuddin and became the most shameless Sultan of entire human history. He used to keep completely nude slave girls all around in his palace and used to promote open vulgarity in public. He himself used to dress like a woman and get into most vulgar acts that can shame the most shameless pervert. He married Deval, the wife of his slain brother. He got all his relatives killed or blinded to prevent any rebellion. Mubarak was later murdered by his trusted general Khusro who was earlier his slave. Khusro again married Deval.
But soon Khusro was murdered by Giasuddin Tughlaq, yet another slave. The Tughlaq dynasty began.
The Tughlaq Dynasty
There had not been even one single generation of Islamic rulers which did not murder its kins and relatives.
And there was competition among sons of Giasuddin to murder the father as per long-running traditions of these so-called protectors of Islam. Muhammad bin Tughlaq emerged the winner in this, and he had his brothers and father murdered to become next Sultan.
Muhammad bin Tughlaq had many of his relatives murdered in a most brutal manner to prevent any uprisings against him. He had the skin of his nephew peeled off and forced his wives to eat it!
After impotent Muhammad had died, the throne was annexed by the son of an illegitimate son of Giasuddin’s father called Firozshah. He then had all those brutally murdered whom he feared to give rise to any rebellion. Even the 80-year-old Khwaja-Jahan was killed while he was offering Namaz. He spent most of his time in his harem, and hence the Empire weakened considerably.
Firozshah’s son Muhammad had his minister murdered but could not annex the throne. After Firozshah’s death, his grandson became the ruler for five months. But he was murdered by another son of Firozshah. But yet another son of Firozshah (Muhammad) defeated and murdered him and became the ruler.
After Muhammad had died in four years, he was succeeded by his son Sikandar but murdered within a few days. Another son of Firozshah, Nusrat, used to run a parallel government in another part of Delhi. The drama continued for four more years when the cannibal Timur Lang attacked India. This Timur was the forefather of another butcher Babur.
The Timur Dynasty
There had not been even one single generation of Islamic rulers which did not murder its kins and relatives.
Timur himself had risen to power by brutally murdering his close relatives. He writes, by the way, in his memoirs that Jama Masjid existed in Delhi during his time itself and Hindus had assembled there. This proves that Jama Masjid is actually a Hindu temple forged in the name of Shah Jahan, yet another butcher.
When he attacked India, the two Sultans of Delhi ran away. And when Timur died, his children murdered each other as per old tradition starting from the origin of Caliphate of Islam, and then one of his sons managed to be next ruler. Thus, the saga of murder continued generation after generation in Timurid dynasty of butchers to which Mughals belonged.
The Sayyid Dynasty
There had not been even one single generation of Islamic rulers which did not murder its kins and relatives.
Once Timur went back after devastating India, the two Sultans came back. But one of them was murdered by another. By this time the Delhi rule was limited only to NCR (National Capital Region) of those times (hardly few km)! The powerless sultan finally died in 1413, and his minister continued to rule for a year.
Then he was imprisoned by Khizr Khan who had collaborated with Timur Lang to plunder India. The terrorist Khizr started the Sayyid dynasty claiming to be a descendant of Prophet Muhammad! His empire was limited to a small region, and hence this dynasty was more like a band of pirates of Somalia.
Khizr Khan was succeeded by Mubarak Shah who continued the terrorist activities but was then murdered. He was followed by Muhammad Shah. Muhammad Shah reigned for ten years and was murdered by Bahlol Lodhi, his general.
The Lodhi Dynasty
There had not been even one single generation of Islamic rulers which did not murder its kins and relatives.
When Bahlol Lodhi died, the bitter fight started among his sons and brother. Finally, his third son Nizam Khan defeated the rest and became a ruler with title Sikandar Lodhi.
When Sikandar died of throat cancer, Ibrahim Lodhi succeeded him. He also had to defeat his brother Jalal Khan, uncle Azam Khan and cousin Fatah Khan. Jalal was murdered, and the rest two were imprisoned. Another son of Azam named Islam Khan rebelled against it and there was an intense fight. Finally, Azam and Islam were murdered.
Ibrahim Lodhi was finally beheaded by Babur, and his head was sent to Multan. Babur was invited by relatives of Ibrahim to kill him. Thus, began the Mughal dynasty.
The Mughal dynasty
There had not been even one single generation of Islamic rulers which did not murder its kins and relatives.
Babur himself was one of the greatest rascals to be ever born. Babur, a descendant of Timur and Genghiz Khan, was one of the greatest perverts to be born exceeded only by Akbar in his brutality. Babur considered himself rightful ruler of India because his forefather Timur had installed Khizr Khan as emperor. Further, he was thrown away from Fergana by his maternal and paternal uncles. So, he came and butchered Indians.
Babur nominated his brother-in-law Mahdi Khwaja as his successor. Babur divided his territories among his sons Kamran, Askari, Hindal and Humayun. But Humayun usurped the throne after his death.
After being beaten at the Battle of Kannauj, Humayun retreated to Lahore which was being ruled by his half-brothers Kamran and Askari. Kamran refused to support a battered Humayun and offered Sher Shah, Humayun’s enemy, his support.
Humayun escaped to Persia to whose leader Kamran offered Kandhar if he handed him over Humayun. Humayun and his half-brother Kamran Mirza had bitter fights for the throne. Finally, Humayun defeated Kamran. When Kamran was handed over by Islam Shah to Humayun, the benevolent ruler blinded Kamran with his own hands by piercing a lancet in his eye socket and rubbed the wounds in his eyes with lemon juice and salt. He deported him to Hajj where he died an unknown death.
Another son of Babur named Askari was imprisoned. Both were later murdered. Humayun married off his Brother’s daughter to his son Jalal.
Humayun was defeated by Sher Shah Suri who became the next butcher to rule India for next five years. Sher Shah died in a bomb explosion and was succeeded by his second son Islam Shah Suri. The elder brother Adil Khan also attempted to capture the throne but was murdered by Islam Shah.
Islam Shah died of a ‘urinary’ disease and was succeeded by twelve years old Firuz Shah. He was assassinated by his uncle, Muhammad Adil Shah.
Muhamad Adil Shah had to fight with his brothers-in-law Ibrahim Khan and Ahmad Khan. His smart general Hemu took advantage of the situation and defeated all to establish rule over Delhi.
Humayun took advantage of the strife within Suri dynasty and conquered Delhi once more. But he died within a year due to falling in a drunken state from stairs.
Thirteen years old Akbar, son of Humayun, was sworn next emperor under the guidance of Bairam Khan, his general. Bairam had a lucky win over Hemu in the battle of Panipat after which Akbar butchered an unconscious Hemu to celebrate his victory and become a Gazi.
But soon, Akbar forced Bairam Khan to run away to Mecca. He was murdered on the way. Akbar then married his mother like auntie aka wife of Bairam Khan. He also had his cousins tortured and murdered.
The trend now crept in and towards the end of his reign. Akbar faced a rebellion while he was on his Deccan campaign. On learning that his son Jehangir had marched towards Agra to crown himself as the King, father Akbar left his campaign in between and just made to Agra in time.
Akbar’s son Salim aka Jehangir tried to poison Akbar twice. This was perhaps due to confusion over who should sleep with latter’s wife (the same character the left historians, Jodha-Akbar fiction writers and Bollywood directors are so fond of). Because Akbar had already announced Jehangir as his successor and historians are confused over who actually married the woman in question. Finally, Akbar is suspected dying of poisoning. But before that Jehangir ran a parallel government from Allahabad and had his own coinage system. He came with a huge army to fight Akbar and had Akbar’s ‘Navaratna’ Abul Fazl murdered.
After Akbar had died, Jehangir became the emperor, but his eldest son Khusro rebelled against him. Khusro was captured, and Jahangir had his eyes gouged out and placed him under house arrest. Jahangir also murdered Man Bai, his wife and sister of Man Singh – one of the greatest traitors to have taken birth in India. The brave protector of Hindus, Guru Arjun Dev was murdered by Jahangir on the pretext of supporting Khusro in most brutal and painful manner.
Jahangir killed Mirza Baig and forced his widow in his harem. This was Noorjahan. He then married Noorjahan’s niece to his son Khurram (or Shahjahan). Then Noorjahan’s daughter from the first husband was married to Shahjahan’s brother Shahryar. This started another rivalry over next ruler.
Noorjahan used to dominate Jahangir since he used to remain in addiction all the time. She first supported Shahjahan but then supported Shahryar. Thus, Shahjahan rebelled, and many in the family were killed in three years. Finally, Jahangir died in a state of intoxication.
After this, the battle began again. Shahjahan was out of Delhi. Noorjahan tried to kidnap her brother Asaf Khan for supporting Shahjahan.
Meanwhile, Shahjahan had the blind Khusro (his elder brother) already poisoned to death. Asaf Khan made his son the emperor. Noorjahan announced Shahryar to be the emperor. The battle began. Shahryar was captured and blinded. Meanwhile, Shahjahan also returned.
He had all the princes and ‘announced emperors’ along with their families killed. He then became the next emperor in 1628. Among the vilest humans to be born, some historians state that he did not spare even his daughter from his lust. He used to say that the gardener has first right to taste his fruit.
Foolish historians claim that he built Taj Mahal when the reality is that Babur had stayed in Taj Mahal as per Baburnama. How can you expect such devil butchers to be architects of the symbol of love!
When Shahjahan grew old, a battle began in his harem productions (aka children) over his succession. Finally, Aurangzeb was victorious, and he had his brothers Dara (eldest), Shujah and Murad murdered. He then imprisoned Shahjahan and gave him a taste of age-old tradition of Islamic justice! And foolish people call such perverts the glory of Islam!
Aurangzeb, portrayed as the nastiest of all the Mughal Kings was as regular in his behaviour towards his family as his predecessors. Aurangzeb was notorious because he killed his elder brother Dara Shikoh and exiled his father Shahjahan but this is what Shahjahan bequeathed upon Aurangzeb as a legacy which in turn was passed onto him by his own father Jahangir who in turn learnt it from Akbar who inturn learnt it from his father, Humayun.
Aurangzeb also had the same fate. His son Akbar rebelled against him and announced himself as ruler. But Aurangzeb defeated him, and Akbar ran away to Iran. But once butcher Aurangzeb died in the hands of Marathas leaving a very weak empire thanks to the glory of Guru Gobind Singh, Banda Bairagi, Shivaji and Chhatrasal among others, his sons again had a fight over succession. This time, Bahadur Shah killed his brothers and became the emperor.
When Bahadur Shah died, his four sons again fought against each other. Three of them were murdered in a complex four-sided battle, and Jahandar Shah became the ruler.
Meanwhile, Farukh Siyar, nephew of Jahandar also announced his claim. With the help of the powerful Sayid brothers who became virtual rulers, he defeated and killed Jahandar.
After becoming emperor, Farukh planned to get out of clutches of Sayid brothers. But they attacked Farukh and had him blinded and imprisoned. Later he was strangulated to death.
Then Jahandar’s son Muhammad Shah Rangila was made the emperor by Sayid brothers. He was smart enough to defeat them and then murder.
During Rangila’s rule, Nadir Shah attacked India. This Nadir Shah had become emperor by murdering Abbas, the young son of Shah of Iran. In 1743, he had eyes of his own son gouged out. He was the enemy of both Shias and idol worshippers. Finally, Nadir Shah was also murdered by his nephew Ali Kuli Khan along with his thirteen sons and grandsons. One grandson managed to save his life, and he ran away to Austria to serve the kings there.
After Nadir Shah, Ahmad Shah, his general, took control of the empire who exceeded Nadir Shah in brutality. He invaded India several times making Mughals weaker and weaker. The Sikhs and Marathas effectively checked him. He was succeeded by Timur after which his sons again started a bloody battle. His 5th son Zaman took the throne but was blinded and imprisoned for next 40 years till he died. The other brothers and their children kept murdering each other for expansion of their split empires.
Coming back to affairs with Mughals, after Rangila died, his son Ahmad Shah became the namesake emperor. Eventually, he was removed by Marathas and the second son of Jahandar took the throne in the name of Alamgir II. This new Alamgir (earlier was the killing machine called Aurangzeb) had Ahmad Shah, and his mother blinded within a week.
His courtiers murdered Alamgir II in 1759. By this time the Mughal rule had come to an end, and for next 100 years, they only lived on pension by British and a territory confined to Red Fort. He was followed by Shah Jahan III, another production of royal harem. But soon he was also deposed by Afghans, and his kingmakers ran away forever. What happened of him is not known.
After this, Shah Alam II, the son of Alamgir II became the namesake emperor in 1761. In 1788, Ghulam Qadir, son of his minister, brought emperor and his family to streets. He raped the royal women and asked an artist to paint the picture of the way he gouged the eyes of Shah Alam II, sitting on his chest. Ghulam Qadir said that he is doing so because Shah Alam II had done the same with his family earlier.
Eventually, Marathas captured this Ghulam Qadir and handed over to Mughals who then cut him into pieces over several days in most brutal manner and made the public display of the same. Finally, they left him to be eaten by a dog. The blind Shah Alam II was restored as emperor of Red Fort as a mercy.
After Shah Alam II died in 1806, his son Akbar succeeded as a pensioner of British. He was followed by the 62-year-old Bahadur Shah Zafar. This time there was no fight for succession because they were scared that British might kill them.
Summary is clear
When these representatives of Islam could not be faithful to their own father, brothers, sisters and children, how can we expect them to be human enough to promote compassion among rest of Muslims and non-Muslims? And how can those who glorify such perverts conduct any other noble act apart from terrorism?
Mughal scions need to be questioned. However, the Mughals need not be erased from the history but should be taught as classical examples of treachery, bigotry and tyrannical reign of foreigners.
Disclaimer
This post is based on the translations and commentaries of Islamic texts like Quran, Hadiths etc. as published by all major Islamic publishing sources. These are the publicly available translations that are used for promotion of Islam by prominent representatives. It also borrows for books on history, most of which are in public-domain.
We believe that most religious texts have been wrongly translated, misinterpreted, misquoted or even have been tampered with and interpolated to suit the selfish designs of proponents of Islam after Muhammad. Thus, we believe that original Islam and original Quran of Muhammad are totally different from what have been propagated by some of his fanatic followers in name of Islam. There are few minority groups in Muslims whose scholars subscribe to our views and interpret/translate Islamic texts differently. Some even refuse to consider the available Quran and Hadiths as authentic. But these scholars themselves are considered Kafirs and are condemned by many dominant elite of Islam. Thus, when we refer to Islam, we actually imply these dominant elites of Islam and not Muslims or all Islamic scholars in general.
Wherever we critically evaluate Muhammad, we imply the fictitious Muhammad propagated by these false texts or their wrong translations and not the original Muhammad. We have high regard for original Muhammad who stood for non-violence and tolerance. Similarly, when we analyze Islamic texts, we refer to these questionable translations/versions and NOT original texts.
Further, we have a sense of the highest level of brotherhood for Muslims in general. Wherever we use the word Muslim in a critical manner, it refers to false intolerant representatives of Islam and not Muslims in general. Readers are requested to keep this in mind to understand the correct perspective of the post.
Nowhere should they assume the words like Islam, Quran, Prophet etc. to be referring to original noble entities, unless it has been referred in a positive light. We restrict ourselves only to notions prevalent in minds of fanatics and those without reason.
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@Salviablue:
You look to be very much confused bcoz you haven’t found the real truth yet. Don’t mistake me, I am not trying to convert you to another religion other than yours but you need to study, analyze religions and ask the real God/Eshwar/Allah (take what ever name u want), to show you the right path. Verily, He will show you the right path. Again, I am not promoting one religion, here is one such incidence I came across recently. This man was also in a similar situation as any of us are. If you go through his talk, you will agree that this man is realistic, practical, logical and brave to have accepted the truth and chosen what his mind and heart agreed upon (anyway this is his individual choice). Hope you we do the same too, and accept what we feel is the truth, regardless of what religion we choose. May the Almighty show us the right path and all of us to follow what the divinity is. Here is the website I want u to watch from 1-6 without being biased: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbWVmnhxy1I&feature=related
Watch this link from 1 to 6. This explanation is so realistic, sensible & justified. Pls watch all links 1-6.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbWVmnhxy1I&feature=related
Namaste wellsaid
Here are few links to the organizations of EX Muslims who are now making the world aware of their EX religion
http://www.faithfreedom.org/
http://apostatesofislam.com/
@WellSaid
Son, you enjoy shooting out videos to us in which hindus convert to islam right? You showed me one video, I will show you three, although there are so many of these videos, and it may inspire you so much that we may see you in the next video under the heading “Why I Left Islam”
Here are the videos, ENJOYYYYYYYYYYY!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwtHEq_uXr8
Here is the second video, ENJOY THIS ONE AS WELL!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ3T2Y2QksE&feature=related
And the grand finale, ENJOY THIS ONE THE MOST because this person’s name is MOHAMMAD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DVSA0T0jvU
@ All friends
Here is an invitation cum challenge to our Muslim friends
http://satyagni.com/4091/i-am-a-non-arab-muslim/
I defer with Agniveer in this point. why he wants to be political correct in addressing ISlam. it is well-known fact that the founder of islam, Muhhamad, was the chief of his barbaric followers.
Muhhamad had sex with 9 year old innocent baby while he was over 50 with 10 wives already.
He sent a henchman to assassinate a 92 year old weak poet while poet was sleeping, reason behind was that old poet wrote a few bad lines against Muhhamad.
Muhhamad ordered to decapitate, butcher, 900 people in the middle of market after war. 900 people.
Muhhamad, after killing, butchering all the family members, raped a chieftain’s daughter .
Muhhamad also tricked her wife sent her out of house to have sex with a servant.
that is not at all a good wxample of human being.
in muhhamad’s whole life, he murdered, butchered, looted, raped, had multiple limitless sex, had sex with small baby, had sex with wife’s servant, and list goes on.
The Muhammad we know is through Hadiths, modern Quran and his biographies. All of these were written at least 20 years after Muhammad’s death by brutal monsters as explained in this article. Muhammad himself is suspected to have poisoned to death. Under such situations, it would be unreasonable to take allegations on Muhammad at face value. At best we can say that we do not know who the real Muhammad was and what he believed in. If we go by liberal verses of Quran, we can say that real Muhamamd was a well-intentioned person. And the Muhammad which is projected in front of world is a work of fiction concocted by his followers who were killing each other and continue to do so even today. They even killed Muhammad. So while fanatic Islam should be condemned, there is no valid reason to blame all this to Muhammad who was not even living when the modern Quran was being written.
that means Muhhamad’s real character is lost. whole islam is running on bunch of Plane Lies.
than the real islam is Lost forever. there is no possible way to bring it back.
islam must be reformed. quran must be banned until its thoroughly corrected.
in any of the case, islam has no solid ground base to walk on this earth.
SO there are no Good muslims and extremists. what i have concluded is there are Wishy-washy muslims who rejects brutal,barbaric concepts of islam and there are PURE Muslims=extremists who believe 100% in islamic scriptures and are ready to decapitate apostates and cut off thieve’s hands.
No Brother,
There are good Muslims as well. Those who were born as Muslims, find gates closed for them to be Hindu because of caste system, find Christianity too superstitious and yet want to live honestly. Depending upon the society they live in, they will speak about prevailing islam openly. For example Dr parvez Hoodbhoy of pakistan would refuse to accept views on apostasy, kafirs etc. Shahin Hussain of Delhi would claim that a large number of verses of Quran have no relevance today and were applicable only during Muhammad’s era. Today if one has to accept Quran, it should be only to extent it complies with logic.
How would you term these people who are trying to be as honest as they can. As per Vedic Dharma, they need not convert into any religion and are still human beings – qualified enough to be Vedic which they are.
It is true that it is impossible to discover about real Muhammad except that he was poisoned to death and that his followers and alleged wives were killing each other immediately after his death. And that all those who differed from view of Caliph Uthman in matters of Quranic verses were killed en masse to ensure only one version of Quran remains. Further even in that Quran, many verses are considered abrogated. So there is no way to find original Quran and original Muhammad. The only clue is that Quran says that it is supposed to present orginal message of Allah in Arabic language. Thus whatever in Quran is as per Vedas should be accepted as real Quran.
And there should be no hesitation in accepting that original Muhammad wanted to propagate Vedas. Today vedas are available and Swami Dayanand even made commentary on it. So true Muslims should embrace the Vedic Dharma to be true Muslims.
Just as Vedas are supposed to predict Muhammad, the Bismillah Rahimanurrahimi of Islam predicts Swami dayanand. Because Rahimanurrahimi means Dayanand. So all Muslims start noble work reciting “Dayanand ki Jai”! They should do that more openly now to pay homage to great Muhammad.
Raja
character of Muhhamad is very cruel, barbaric, rapist, schizophrenic.
believing in flying donkeys, talking ants will not conclude islam is truth.
muslims are of 2 types –
(a) wishy-washy muslims like Hoodboy who rejects part of islam and still remains muslim.
(b) pure type of muslim = extremists like Anjem Chuodhry who believes 100 % what quran tells. they are terrorists and want to rule dominate the world as islam says there will be only one deen=religion.
islam is lost and so is quran and muhhamad. whole religion is fake and lost.
saying “Dayanand ki Jai” is shirk in islam and is dealt with death on earth and Forever BURniNG HELL in afterlife in Islam.
islam is utterly intolerant, cruel, brutal and nonsense religion where Man can do prostitution by having 4 wives but when it comes to women, they are declared prostitue.
islam is male oriented religion only to please men by giving them 4 wives, 72 virgins in allah’s brothel
Namaste.
This is not relevant to the article by the way.
I’d like to know why Agniveer is not analysing christianity? The inhumane conversion practices of christian missionaries is a severe threat not only in Bharat but the world over. Behind the mask of christian missionaries are people who would do anything and everything it takes to convert someone including forcing people to convert (by exploiting the poor, uneducated,.etc). For example:
http://ibnlive.in.com/generalnewsfeed/news/six-held-for-forceful-religious-conversion/658055.html
http://www.haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?PageID=13714&SKIN=B
I truly appreciate everything Agniveer is doing and for bringing myself along with countless others to the True Path of Vedic Dharma, but it would be great if you guys can put up some articles analysing christianity as well, to show people just how illogical and inhumane it is.
Thanks. 🙂
Please visit http://satyagni.com/category/christianity/ for analysis of Christianity.
Namaste brother.
Thanks a lot. I’ll check it out. 🙂
Btw, I think that the Satyagni site isn’t receiving as much exposure as the Agniveer site, and since it’s the Satyagni site that analyses christianity, many people may not get to learn about the truth about christianity.
Maybe promote the site more? Just a suggestion. 🙂
@ritesh swami
the way you leading this argument it shows that you believe that these partiest like bjp,arya samaj are terrorising more than islamic terrorist and importantly these parties are not responsible for taking 1000 of innocent life throughout the world everyday but islamic terrorist groups are responsible ..
What conclusion a man can draw from your videos = nothing …
It also seems that you have registered yourself with hiding your correct name , this shows how you guys know to cheat or are masters of cheating ..
Hinduism is a peaceful and tolerant religion. Because it is a composite religion, it has no issues with dogmatic religions which are based on the teachings of a founder or prophet. Its broader religious and philosophical base allows it to find parallels within other religions and coexist with them without feeling threatened or the compulsion to establish its superiority. Hindus are perhaps the only people in the world who have never launched an aggression on other nations on religious grounds. And Hinduism is perhaps the only religion in the world that survived over 700 years of Islamic oppression and 400 years of Christian propaganda.
The so-called Kargil war of Kashmir in June 99 has triggered two very positive phenomenons for India. For the first time in a long stretch, it gave the country a bit of nationalism, it made many Indians proud of the heroism and selflessness of their soldiers. Whatever jingoism, or chauvinism there also was, one could feel, from Tamil Nadu to Punjab, that for a time there grew a feeling of togetherness in the nation, the knowledge of one’s soldiers fighting it out there, in the harshest and most dangerous conditions and defending Mother India’s sacred land. And that was very positive, for unless a nation possesses a bit of nationalism, it cannot keep on growing. And the second very positive aspect is that it has revived in India a notion which has been extinct for a long time : that of the kshatriya spirit. A nation needs warriors, it needs soldiers to defend itself and protect its women, children, and its borders from hostile and asuric elements, which throughout history have negated the Good and the Holy. It is fine to be Gandhian and non-violent, but in the tough and rough world of today, one cannot be too naive : you need a strong and well-equipped army to be able to defend one’s dharma. But a well equipped army is not enough – we have seen how today the United States’ army, the most modern and high-tech of the world, is only capable of fighting from a distance, either bombarding from the sky, or shooting from boats off-shore, a coward’s war, as its soldiers have lost the sense of kshatriya, of honour, of dying for one’s country. In Kargil, India saw the selflessness of its soldiers, with all the officers in front, climbing in the cold under enemy fire and wrestling peaks in impossible conditions, with little more than blood and tears.
Francois Gautier, born in Paris in 1950, is a French journalist and writer
Where Hinduism there is freedom
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Semitic religions are often pretty constrictive. Pray here, sing this, praise him, anoint that, pay money, don’t believie this/that- a person’s worship is really never done here but things are achieved by brain-wahsing people’s mind and consistent forced injection of middle eastern theology into human brain.
Hindusim is really a breath of fresh air always. Don’t feel like worshipping Brahman? Fine, pick one of his three main forms. Don’t like Shiva, Brahma or Vishnu? Fine, worship one of the other Devas. Still can’t find one you like? Pick one of the Avatars then. You really can’t complain; there’s something for everyone. You can even change your mind down the road, because guess what? You’ll still be worshipping Brahman at some form.
No scripture in Hinduism forcing you to pay certain percentage of your earnings to temple, but allowed to offer your own to temple and for poors or charity. You can pray God anywhere, you can invent your own method of praising or praying God. Lot more freedom in Hinduism given to their followers and allowing free human mind to develop for the fullfilment of the consciouness evolution.
Any ways nice article.i appreciate u brother. . . .one thing i wanna clearyfy is that the incidents u mentioned above about muslim rulers were not based on islamic ideology. . .these were personal conflicts. . .as they were in kingdoms . .even u hv heard of mahabharta. . .a saga about killing human beings. . . .. . .loss of human life is always to be condemned. . .irrespective of the ideology. Thanks for so informative article.
We agree brother. That is the essence of the article – if people would try to find Islam through deeds of villains in history, then terrorism would be the only result. So Islam and so-called islamic history have to be distinguished as stated by Hassan Nisar.
“Upon seeing the corpse of a woman in a battlefield, Prophet Muhammad asked his companions why she had been killed, and condemned it”
>> yeah, sure. He missed out on screwing her too. 1 more sex slave lost.sigh, what a noble gesture.
lolz
“Islam” is closely related to the word “salam or silm” which means peace”. how is it? please explain it briefly.
>> ” that had been polluted by the 360 man-made idols ” …shabeer, you are at best an expert at ctrl C ctrl V. Tell me, how come the mere presence of some idols are there, it becomes polluted. Give me a logical reason why God would be irked.
and you ran away last time when people here started asking questions after posting some hogwash articles from somewhere else. You could reply to none satisfactorily.
The Myth of Muslim Condemnation of Terror
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ali-eteraz/the-myth-of-muslim-condem_b_67904.html
@myth
To condemn and commit the acts of terrorism/violence is inbuilt into islam from starting. It is similar to good cop and bad cop strategy.
West hasnt yet understood the invasivness of islam completely. On the softer side islam uses sufism to lure people and on the harder side it uses jiziya and social exclusion. India is the best palce where original face of islam can be seen. Other places like iran have lost their culture altogether and have driven away their own people like parsis and bhayis.
Islam proclaims if you kill a person you kill a humanity, but in actual practice it has killed and massacared many cultures, starting from jews of banu quarez (shamelessly muslims justify that act saying that we judged jews according to their own law)
to turkish genocide of cyprus.
The author hides behind the argument that “I reiterate my first point. There is something wrong with the basic premise of the idea that Muslims must condemn terrorism, ”
At least this is not true in india, we hindus have least expected favourible treatment of our hindus brothers in pakistan and bangladesh and our secularists themselves declare that terror has no religion as if kasab or the person who hacked kerala lecturers hand does not belong to peacful islam.
Muslims dont need to condemn terrorist, the world will be safe if muslims dont migrate to secular countries and become invasive species by overbreeding(this applies to hindus too though they do it for maintaining their strength against muslims) and later bring their class of lawlessness(demand of seperate state, seperate law….).
@adolf
problem with you is you are typical stereotypical live with in India. Well people move forward
and learn from mistakes. if one human get killed means you kill humanity it is true fact.
it will remain the same and I am not surprised as pointing to them is easy. To eliminate the root cause is to come forward & condemn.
Come forward to defend against those who create unjust violence in name of religion. This is answer for stonehearted people.
Save the Iman, of Musl + iman. To keep Faith is the only hope of Muslims.
@myth
——problem with you is you are typical stereotypical live with in India.—-
and you’re a typical pseudo-secularist who just want to blabber about so called humanism without considering the fact that Indians are the most affected people on earth from islamic terrorism.
—Come forward to defend against those who create unjust violence in name of religion.—
FYI…this site is all about anti-terrorism.
@shravak
I come forward to blame on bad elements of so called wrong followers of Islam, Unjust Moghuls, Hindutva company, so called British India, French, Dutch or Portuguese. People who does that will always get punished or repent it is natural law.
The one who lose the path because they tend to follow this when they are terrorize, they begin to create terror.
Well my point was clear who initiate violence in name of religion are all losers. Whichever religion or creed
they belong to. If any injustice is done it is wrong and its simple logic.
Muslims who come forward & condemn this terrible acts are true ones to preserve faith. The real meaning of Jihad is the ones who come forward to protect the people till death against this bad elements who create terror.
:: Save the Iman, of Musl + iman. To keep Faith is the only hope of Muslims::
@myth
—The real meaning of Jihad is the ones who come forward to protect the people till death against this bad elements who create terror.—–
oh really, give a glance at the chapter on Jihad (Vol.IV, pp. 34-199) in Bukhari. they do not talk of metaphorical battles, or allegorical, spiritual struggles, but bloody war.
can you bust this myth? and don’t forget to back your statements with Islamic scriptures.
Analysis: How to wipe out Islamic terror
Subramanian Swamy
http://www.dnaindia.com/analysis/comment_analysis-how-to-wipe-out-islamic-terror_1566203-all
In one sense, I do not blame the Muslim fanatics for targeting Hindus. I blame Hindus who have taken their individuality permitted in Sanatan Dharma to the extreme. Millions of Hindus can assemble without state patronage for the Kumbh Mela, completely self-organised, but they all leave for home oblivious of the targeting of Hindus in Kashmir, Mau, Melvisharam and Malappuram and do not lift their little finger to help organise Hindus. If half the Hindus voted together, rising above caste and language, a genuine Hindu party would have a two-thirds majority in Parliament and the assemblies.
Islam and Human Rights
The Quran and Sunnah encourage Muslims to respect the life and property of all mankind.
In an Islamic State these rights are considered sacred, whether a person is Muslim or not.
Islam protects honor, forbids insulting others, and/or making fun of them.
Islam rejects certain individuals or nations being favored because of their wealth, power, and/or race.
All Muslims believe that Allah created all humans free and equal, only to be distinguished from each other on the basis of God-consciousness or piety and never on the basis of race, color or ethnicity.
Islam is a practical religion that respects all human beings and it was revealed for all mankind. Its message is that of peace and submission to Allah. Muslims believe in all the Prophets mentioned in the Bible, and the Quran. The Quran shares many moral teachings of the Old Testament and the New Testament. These three religions (and their books) were founded upon the revelations by One True God, Allah. For more information on this topic please see the brochure Human Rights In Islam or ask for brochure #7 from the III&E, the publisher of this article.
Jihad in the Bible
Let us see what the Bible has to say about Jihad in the meaning of war and violence. The following verses are from the Bible, New International Version (NIV), 1984
“Do not allow a sorceress to live. Anyone who has sexual relations with an animal must be put to death. Whoever sacrifices to any god other than the LORD must be destroyed.” [Exodus 22:18-20]
“This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: ‘each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.’ The Levites did as Moses commanded and that day about three thousand of the people died.” [Exodus 32:27-28]
“The LORD said to Moses, ‘Take vengeance on the Midianites for the Israelites. The Israelites captured the Midianite women and children and took all the Midianite herds, flocks and goods as plunder…
@shabeer,
>>The Quran and Sunnah encourage Muslims to respect the life and property of all mankind.
Is this why rehana and maria are accepted as war booty? The respect of muslims is like the respect of slaves by his master, nothing more.
>>In an Islamic State these rights are considered sacred, whether a person is Muslim or not.
The rights are sacred as long as they pay their taxes. In an islamic state any one who says I am truth will be put to death, see why alhallaj is killed.
>>Islam protects honor, forbids insulting others, and/or making fun of them
Is this why your muslim brothers are making fun of monkey god, but giving death sentence to some one for blasphemy of muhammad?
>>Islam is a practical religion that respects all human beings and it was revealed for all mankind.
when you cant even respect your wife and do polygamy what use is boasting of respecting mankind?
>>Its message is that of peace and submission to Allah.
Are you peacful? Who is Allah and how does he look like so that i can submit?
>>These three religions (and their books) were founded upon the revelations by One True God, Allah
if you call 7th heaven gaseous god is true god, can you explain who are false gods?
@shabeer,
Lot of historic justification.
If muhammad really want to abolish slavery he would have done without justifying it.
Compare muhammad to raja ram mohan roy. Raja Ram Mohan Roy single handedly stopped sati which was present in hinduism from long time, but muhammad though powerfull was not able to aboish slaves, but enjoyed with maria and died in the hand of another captive girl.
Indeed muhammad is the most worthy of all men(sarcasm).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVbUzbLC5GE&feature=player_embedded
True Islam “Hijacked”
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Many articles were written, especially in the aftermath of September 11, about how the religion of Islam has been hijacked by a small group of terrorists. This is absolutely correct. The Quran, the holy scripture of Muslims, contains no justification for terrorism and killing innocent people.
We believe that this hijacking of the religion by terrorists will be a wake up call for the majority of silent Muslims who are decent, God-fearing people. We also believe that the true religion of Islam was actually hijacked many centuries ago, albeit slowly and subtly, by so-called Islamic scholars with only superficial or distorted knowledge of the teachings of the Quran. These scholars gradually abandoned the Quran in favor of unauthorized sources for social and political gain. They have been shaping a religion for the masses based on premises that have nothing to do with the true religion, and are divergent from what is clearly presented in the Quran.
There is a famous experiment called “Boiling Frog Syndrome.” The idea is that if you throw a frog into a pot of boiling water, it will jump out. But if you place the frog into a pot of lukewarm water and slowly turn up the heat, it will boil to death! In other words, when people become accustomed to practices over a sufficient period of time, they come to accept these practices as normal.
The Boiling Frog Syndrome explains how the “Muslim” masses have come to accept breaches of the Quranic teachings that would have provoked questioning and confrontation during the time of Prophet Muhammad. They have grown accustomed to distortions in the religion that are not sanctioned by the Quran.
Why does this great religion that produced unmatched civilizations now produce corrupt nations of the third world? Why are once proud, educated and progressive Muslims now economically and socially dependent? The picture is clear.
Ten Obvious Reasons Why
Islam is NOT a Religion of Peace
#1 17,000 deadly terror attacks committed explicitly in the name of Islam in just the last ten years. (Other religions combined for perhaps a dozen or so).
#2 Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, had people killed for insulting him or for criticizing his religion. This included women. Muslims are told to emulate the example of Muhammad.
#3
Muhammad said in many places that he has been “ordered by Allah to fight men until they testify that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is his messenger.” In the last nine years of his life, he ordered no less than 65 military campaigns to do exactly that.
Muhammad inspired his men to war with the basest of motives, using captured loot, sex and a gluttonous paradise as incentives. He beheaded captives, enslaved children and raped women captured in battle. Again, Muslims are told to emulate the example of Muhammad.
#4
After Muhammad died, the people who lived with him and knew his religion best immediately fell into war with each other.
Fatima, Muhammad’s favorite daughter, survived the early years among the unbelievers at Mecca safe and sound, yet died of stress from the persecution of fellow Muslims only six months after her father died.
Fatima’s husband Ali, who was the second convert to Islam and was raised like a son to Muhammad, fought a civil war against an army raised by Aisha, Muhammad’s favorite wife – and one whom he had said was a “perfect woman.” 10,000 Muslims were killed in a single battle waged less than 25 years after Muhammad’s death.
Three of the first four Muslim rulers (caliphs) were murdered. All of them were among Muhammad’s closest companions. The third caliph was killed by allies of the son of the first (who was murdered by the fifth caliph a few years later, then wrapped in the skin of a dead donkey and burned). The fourth caliph (Ali) was stabbed to death after a bitter dispute with the fifth. The fifth caliph went on to poison one of…
Blast outside Delhi HC 10 killed, 45 injured
http://www.rediff.com/news/report/blast-outside-delhi-high-court/20110907.htm
What has happened with Islam is a grave cause of concern. It will no more suffice to simply say “Islam means Peace” and close the eyes like an ostrich. Islam is indeed hijacked by terrorist mindset. Now some may say that there are even Hindu or Christian terrorists and criminals as well. But question is how many? And how many take pride in being so. How many cases you have heard that after a terror attack a Christian or Hindu group proudly took ownership of the attack? Why is that it is almost unilaterally the Muslim groups who take ownership of terror attacks? Why is it that Muslim countries are the most violent and human-rights abused places of the world? What makes Muslims so violent that they would throw bombs even in a Muslim country. Who is abusing Muslims in Pakistan or Somalia?
Under such situations, it makes little sense to simply chant “Islam means Peace”and deny the facts. On contrary, to bring true peace and dignity to innocent Muslims, prevailing Islam has to change. A history based Islam will only bring terror attacks. The problem with Islam began right from murder of Muhammad Sahib under mysterious circumstances after which a brutal power struggle began. The peaceful sects of Islam gradually got eliminated right from era of Quran compilation when the Caliph cut off hands of those who differed from his version of Quran. As we see in this article, the greatest icons of Islam were all murdered. And thus what remained in Islam was cruel rulers (the hijackers of islam) and the silent common man who dare not raise his voice and accepts his fate as decision of Allah.
The recent upsurge in education of Muslim youth – causing them to deviate from traditional notions of religion and integrating with rest of the Kafir world has brought all this violent reactions from the fanatics. Since they know the youth is gradually slipping away from their hands, they need to reestablish their terror as well as gather funds through such attacks.
This is a transition phase for common Muslims. If they can face it boldly, start openly condemning all Muslim scholars and leaders who call non-muslims Kafir and believe that they will go to Hell, or cursing sympathizers of terrorists like Laden, they can overturn their destiny. Peaceful Muslims should join hands with erstwhile Kafirs, rise above narrow religious dogmas, do as much as they can to showcase themselves as global citizens than puppets of Arab desert, and condemn any terrorist attack by strong criticism and actions. Actions include allowing Hindus and Christians to also pray at their mosques and in return start praying in temples and churches as well. Celebrating Hindu and Christian festivals and inviting Hindus and Christians in Eid etc, adjusting their festival rituals as per majority community’s sensibilities. Like stopping cow slaughter in India on Eid and instead eat sweets. And of course publicly condemn fanatics like Zakir Naik who feed terrorist brains with hatred against Kafirs.
A lot of homework has to be done. We appeal moderate Muslim organizations and indviduals to join hands with us in common mission against terrorism. Do write to us through comments or mail in Contact page. Do review this article as well.
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There is no debate over it. Problem is that certain elements of so-called Muslim do not believe in this and instead plant bombs and kill innocents. So if you could make sure that your message reaches them, that would help the world.
And please do not put conspiracy theory over everything. That makes you look as dumb as Zakir Naik. Fact is that almost all Muslim countries have either violence problems or human rights issue. Only exceptions are countries like Qatar and Dubai who are more liberal than west. This is also true that almost all terrorist groups who claim responsibility of these shameless acts of violence claim to be Muslims and also claim to do so for their religion. Hiroshima or World war 2 did not have any religious colors. So it can mean either of 2 things – either Islam teaches violence or that violent people like Bin Laden etc have hijacked Islam.
To rest of the world it does not matter what is true because they do not believe in Islam in any case. They simply know that in name of Islam their lives have become hell. So instead of telling them that Islam teaches peace, if you could actually work to showcase Islam as a religion of peace by example, that would be what would make an impact.
So Agniveer has no dispute with you on what Quran actually teaches. The problem is that Islam has had a long violent history. Ask Shias and they will tell you it started immediately after Muhammad Sahib’s murder. So it would be worthwhile if Muslims could come out more openly in condemning those who perform terrorist act than simply recite that Islam means peace and ‘I dont know if Osama is a terrorist”. Such statements only make matters worse. Please unite with liberal Muslims like Hassan Nisar and Parvez Hoodbhoy to more vocally condemn terrorism in name of Islam, as well as admit that something has terribly gone wrong to bring such bad name to Islam.
Simply blaming on conspiracy of west only shows that Muslims are too dumb or that their religion is weaker. Why did they allow West to conspire? Why did not they follow Quran and overpowered west? Why they still rely on west for all their funding and livelihood.
If Hindus are weak, we openly admit that we deviated from Vedas to cause such miseries. We admit that had we not ignored our foundations, how could have looters from Central and West Asia attacked us. We take full responsibility of our miseries and humbly want to rectify and improve.
But if you always claim that Islam was always best since inception and yet you are being in such poor state and 99% of religious terrorists (religious terrorists form 80% or more of terrorism today) are also ‘proud’ Muslims, then you are fooling only yourself. See eye opening videos of Hasan Nisar in this post.
And stop giving examples of WWII and Hiroshima etc. These events are 70 years old. Lets talk of today – last 20 years, last 10 years. Consider Agniveer to be your true friend. Work with him instead of fighting him who has no argument over you on what is actual Islam. Only point is that if Islam is indeed peace, make Muslim world example of it instead of asking others to become Muslim. Stop this stupid Dawah business and rectify Islam from core. If indeed it has value, you will have no need to ask anyone to be Muslim. If Islam can indeed become symbol of prosperity, peace and universal brotherhood, if Muslims can become the most educated and rick community of world, if Muslims become greatest inventors and discoverers, the greatest philosphers, social activists, then Agniveer and his entire community will also embrace Islam.
Lets work together to expose and eliminate terrorist elements within Islam first, so that we all can enjoy Jannat (Paradise) even with our peaceful Kafir friends
Blessings
@gniveer g
i think u never read my post http://agniveer.com/3270/foundations-of-fundamentalist-terrorism/#comment-25508 (islam,jihad & terrorism)
i exaplained what the diffrence between islam,jihad,terrorism?
islam condemed all act of terrorism from period of adam to yesteday delhi attak.ismal condemed the all people who behined the attak,whether it was islamic namers and others(we muslim never keep the diffrence between terrorist,they r muslim or non-muslim)
muslim advice to govt that, they must c must found the terrorist,capture the terrorist,cut their head infront of the public,this is the moral adn ideal way,its stop more ‘fithna’ in future.
1)”Fact is that almost all Muslim countries have either violence problems or human rights issue.”
last post i ask to u can u prove u’r claim with evidence?
u’r openion u says to u’r friends,as real critisizm,u must bring some a valid evidence for u’r claim.
soudi & kuwaith govt promote the islamic system,there no terrorist attack there as much as india,us,and uk.
1) they take strict rule against the terrorist.
what our govt attitude towards the terrorist?
parliment,mumbai,gujarath,delihi,etc govt not take moral way of invewstigation about the the terrorist,some people,co opreate,politicians controled our law and judiciary.
ex)mubai attak :they found some pak terrorist,when the investigatio reaches the hedli &rana its stoped.
why? who behined the tip of the root from parliment to yesteday delhi? is hidable truth.
2)Hiroshima or World war 2 did not have any religious colors
i don’t know how can u meaning the word ‘terrorism’?
first u study what is terrorism?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism
consider
a)a politician killed a group of people.
b)a muslim killed a group of people
c)rss blast the dharga killed group of people
d)a norvegian killed a group of people.
my brother agniveeer,i told u that ,what r the above act as terrorism? is only b or all? u must answered my questions.
islam the peace religion consider all the human being r creation of allah,we condemed all the above attack,beco’s all the victims r human,islam the natural religion stand for the peace for all the mankin in our world.
don’t behave the partiality about human based on religion,politic,cast,etc
@shabeer
________Hiroshima or World war 2 did not have any religious color__________
Bombing on HIROSHIMA was part of World war 2 which is fought for becoming super Power among countries. You have given above example of RSS & politician. There are terror happen all over world. & No one can stop them completely & forever. But 99% percent attack are done by Muslims because of religious differences. RSS is not world terrorist organization & RSS has no training camp. “Why most of terrorist attacke are done by Muslim all over the world?” This cause of concern. What wrong in Islam that Muslim plant Bomb all over the world. BTW What you expect from Indian people. We will do particularity I am, if your Muslim bomber will stop planting Bomb in my country & Rest world & I will persuade other also. Please put your list of demands my dear Shabber brother.
)The problem is that Islam has had a long violent history
what r the violont history has islam? can u prove with quran and hadeeth is islam become a violent religion?.
i challenge u bring any one ‘clear verses’ from quran as it promote the violence,can u do it?
islam the peacefull religion,never bring the people to violence ane terrorism,it bring the human to peace,idela, and moral people and bring to them eternal salvation.
read my post,no of verses i include there to promoting and making ideal people.
4)Simply blaming on conspiracy of west only shows that Muslims are too dumb or that their religion is weaker.
we salafi against the all types of terrorism from national,international level,there is no diffrence between whether it came from the mulslim or non-muslim.
i challenge to all hindu group,christian group,muslim group(except salfis).
the problem of people execept salafis’s r they acting against only the people other religion.my many salifi friends r got attack from both rss and simi,bec’s we never partiality between them.how many thread u have in social network agaist terrorism? how amny book u have to stop the terrorism from our country?
how many drop of swet u pay for stop the vilonce against the inocent people?
how many person attak u got by stoping terrorism?
@Shabeer
First give response of it specifically, Then post next
http://agniveer.com/3270/foundations-of-fundamentalist-terrorism/#comment-36143
@truthseeker
1)99% percent attack are done Muslims because of religious differences
i already expalin the islamic concept of terrorism,and who attak by the people,what r their intention,etc
2)RSS is not world terrorist organization & RSS has no training camp
Goals of Indian Hindu nationalists were identical to Justiciar Knights, Anders Breivik claimed
Norwegian mass killer Anders Behring Breivik hailed India’s Hindu nationalist movement as a key ally in a global struggle to bring down democratic regimes across the world.
‘2083: A European declaration of independence’ lays out a road map for a future organisation, the Justiciar Knights, to wage a campaign that will graduate from acts of terrorism to a global war involving weapons of mass destruction — aimed at bringing down what Breivik calls the “cultural Marxist” order.
India figures in a remarkable 102 pages of the sprawling 1,518-page manifesto. Breivik’s manifesto says his Justiciar Knights “support the Sanatana Dharma movements and Indian nationalists in general.” In section 3.158 of the manifesto, he explains that Hindu nationalists “are suffering from the same persecution by the Indian cultural Marxists as their European cousins.”
“Appeasing Muslims”
The United Progressive Alliance government, he goes on, “relies on appeasing Muslims and, very sadly, proselytising Christian missionaries who illegally convert low caste Hindus with lies and fear, alongside Communists who want total destruction of the Hindu faith and culture.”
Even though Hindus who are living abroad “get an eagle’s view of what’s happening in India, Indian Hindu residents don’t see it being in the scene.”
Breivik’s manifesto applauds Hindu groups who “do not tolerate the current injustice and often riot and attack Muslims when things get out of control,” but says, “this behaviour is nonetheless counterproductive.”
“Instead of attacking the Muslims, they should target the category A and B traitors in India and consolidate military cells and actively…
Jehadis transformed Ganesh festival into a festival of riots.
So far…
Riots in Adoni, Andhra Pradesh.
Riots in Ujjain, MP.
Riots in Nandurbar, Maha.
Tension in saidabad area after Ganesh pandal was burnt down in a broad daylight, Hyderabad, AP.
“It is essential that the European and Indian resistance movements learn from each other and cooperate as much as possible,” he concludes. “Our goals are more or less identical.”
Lists websites
Breivik lists the websites of the Bharatiya Janata Party, the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, the National Volunteers’ Organisation, the Akhil Bharatiya Vidyarthi Parishad and the Vishwa Hindu Parishad as resources for further information.
The manifesto pledges military support “to the nationalists in the Indian civil war and in the deportation of all Muslims from India.” This is part of a larger campaign to “overthrow of all western European multiculturalist governments” and evict “U.S. military personnel on European soil.”
India is one of several countries — including Russia, the Philippines, China and Thailand — where Breivik hopes his successors will fight.
He uses the work of historians K.S. Lal and Shrinandan Vyas to point to the threat posed by Islam to Europe, saying their work has established that millions of Hindus were killed in a genocide during 1000-1525 AD. N.S. Rajaram, another historian, is quoted as saying India’s “political class have been so debilitating that they continue to live in a state of constant fear.”
Breivik’s manifesto envisages that this future organisation would hand out a “multi-cultural force medal,” which would be awarded for “military cooperation with nationalist Hindu, Buddhist, Jewish and/or atheist forces (non-European) on Hindu, Buddhist or Jewish territory. These efforts must be directed against Jihadi or cultural Marxist forces, personnel or interests.”
The medals would include a “Liberation of India Service Medal,” which would be awarded for “assisting Indian nationalist forces to drive out Islam from Indian territory.”
Breivik’s Indian-made combat badges, revealed by The Hindu as having been contracted to a workshop in Varanasi, were the first in this series of battle decorations.
His manifesto acknowledges that lives will be lost in the war, and calls for the organisation to “provide and subsidise a standard edition of the Justiciar Knight tombstone” for those who fell in battle.
Since a “European tombstone carver, preferably specialised in traditional tombstone architecture, is likely to charge more than 5000-10000 Euro in order to create the stone,” Breivik suggested that “producers in low-cost countries should be contacted for the task of creating one or multiple stones in the future.”
He acknowledged that this “might sound hypocritical considering the fact that cultural conservatives in general oppose Indian or Chinese membership in [the] WTO and the fact that we generally prefer in-sourcing as many industries as possible. However, conserving our funds is a central part of our struggle.”
Even though Breivik’s Knights would fight shoulder to shoulder with Hindu nationalists, his vision for their rights in a post-revolutionary Europe is limited. The manifesto envisages the creation of a “servant class,” made up of non-Muslim individuals from Bangladesh, Pakistan and India.
“During their stay,” the manifesto envisages, “they will work 12 hours a day for the duration of their contracts (6 or 12 months) and are then flown back to their homelands.” “These individuals,” it goes on, “will live in segregated communities in pre-defined areas of each major city.”
Taken from: http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article2293829.ece?homepage=true#.Ti6AY01JBpY.facebook
@Agniveer
Ban this irrelevant copy paster Shabeer.
@truth seeker
u ask me the evidence,i give to a resent valid evidence.
how to behave moral way of critisizm,its baned like coward?,or challenging to clear my allegation like men?
@shabeer
What are u saying I am not understanding at all? What you want to convey us? Why do not you talk specifically? You suddenly changed the topic or get disappeared from here. Again you comes here & starts your copy paste stuff again. What are the points on which u are disagree. Why not u response us specifically. Why not u debate instead of copy paste.
So Shabeer is a salafi and not a Muslim? Because if he is Muslim, then Bohras, Ismailis, Sufis, etc are not Muslims! Since he belongs to salafi, he will say that only he knows true Islam and all others are wrong. Look at his level of brainwashing.
some evidence need more proof,
ok i debate with u
i ask some questions to agniveer g can u answer it?
not brainwashed,posting some truth about reality.
@Shabeer/All visiter
Please do not response to Shabeer, he is deputed by fanatic to fill the comment sections & misguide the momin. If he had really read Kuran he must have knowledge of these Question. Dont respond him untill then he response of these:-
Here is link of Question:-
http://agniveer.com/5327/vedas-hatred-2/#comment-36548
i answered let start debate?
@Shabeer
Why Allah stopped prophet’s sending for welfare of human Kind? Why? Why we can not see miracle of prophet with out own eyes?
It is very sad that some crazy person like him[Anders Behring Breivik ],use great nation of India and one of great religion – Hinduisms to advance his sick ideology.Every culture, religion & nation has its share of crazy persons like Anders Behring Breivik .
we may conclude here
islam and quran are misleading a lot
they dont have proper mindset
but lots of ifs and buts
everybody is claiming that this religion calls for peace and leads towards a peaceful world then i would just like to ask that why and why most of the terrorists are anyhow related to islam?????
why there is most discomfort in muslim world
why most muslims are misguided??/
isnt quran enough to preach them in right direction???
why most countries dont want to extend their relations with islamic countries???
may you answer???
is everybody except muslim insane so that they hate you??/
no there are lots of reasons and a wide history laying itus foundations
brother dic
prove with valid evidence u’r claim,u’r personal openion don’t post here,i throw it to my dustbin
Good video on Conspiracy Theories
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaQVFI8qIkI
Some of the info posted is incorrect Muhammad was poisoned by a Jewish women (Zainab) after Muhammad had murdered this poor girl’s husband, father, uncle all men in the family similarly all men in her tribe were brutally murdered by Muhammad and his army; all women and children were sold in sex slavery. Boys were examined if they had pubic hair; if they did were murdered, if not child slavery.
Watch this careful examination with quotations from trusted hadiths:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANrR8xfCcEI
Muhammad was indeed a peaceful man while at Mecca. It is after he claimed prophet-hood problems occurred. In fact he was forced to leave due to Muhammad’s intolerance and constant abuse and harassment towards preIslamic Meccan peaceful people: Al-Tabari book VI page no. 101:
They said: “We have never seen the like of what we have endured from this man. He has derided our traditional values, abused our forefathers, reviled our religion, caused division among us, and insulted our gods. We have endured a great deal from him.
It is after his Hijra when Muhammad became strong military-wise in Medina his true colors were revealed. He later returned to Mecca and killed anyone who rejected him, which is also known as the final triumph. Thus Dar al-Islam (the house of Islam) and Dar al-Harb (land of sword) was established. Muslims are to follow the sunnah (imitating the life of Muhammad and following his teaching as he is the perfect Muslim). Muslims have to follow the Meccan Quran living in minority and appear peaceful as Muhammad did, and when they are strong (no longer a minority) they are to follow the Medinan Quran thus terrorism is a way of life in Islam. Quran by itself contains over 164 verses of violent Jihad and Muhammad himself admitted – Bukhari (52:220) – Allah’s Apostle said… ‘I have been made victorious with terror’.
Ex- Muslim
Shame on u may i know how did you come up from this story, did you create your own one and no doubt you would have worked really hard and you don’t have to say that u r Xmuslim we know very well who u r….
@Hamid Ali:
you don’t have to say that u r Xmuslim we know very well who u r….
the implication being…?
Why does every Mohammedan enter into denial mode when encountering an ex-Mohammedan? Cant your brain compute that there are “Muslims” who find Islam disgusting and simply quit the cult?
Learnt it from u guys when people like Rahul(Rahil)Barodiya Embraced Islam and spoke against Hindusim u people were unable to take it and came into denial mode saying “NO I don’t think so he was Hindu” what double standards guys…
@Hamid:
First, relax. There is no need to get kneejerk in your reactions.
Learnt it from u guys when people like Rahul(Rahil)Barodiya Embraced Islam and spoke against Hindusim u people were unable to take it and came into denial mode saying “NO I don’t think so he was Hindu” what double standards guys…
I have no idea who Rahil Barodiya is. If some people convert out of Hinduism because it doesnt suit them, it is fine. I am not sitting in judgement here. There are problems with Hindu society and sometimes it takes an outsider to point out such errors so that Hinduism as a whole improves. I will never begrudge someone who converts out of Hinduism out of his own volition. That is basic human right. Many outsiders have pointed out issues with caste system and we are working to eradicate the ill effects due to it which accrue and trying to reinterpret our holy books to suit modernity.
Now, does your religion provide ex-Muslims the same freedoms? Is Islam in touch with 21st century?
Brother Hamid who am I? I was a Muslim for 3 years. Before converting I had no idea who Muhammad was. At first I felt very welcomed the problems occurred when I started asking questions; for 1 whole year I was just lied upon. Reciting Al-Fatihah 5 times a day in Arabic without understanding was frustrating enough but the hate for Kafirs was too much for me. The mandatory Zakat and the salat al-jumah Jumah namaz friday prayers unnecessary rules just pushed me on the edge. Before converting i was told its optional after conversion mandatory? Then I was being forced by the Imam to join a Pakistani University I wont name it, its supposed to be 1 of the best. It is after the horrific accusations I heard on the internet about the beloved prophet I just couldn’t believe them and started researching and the truth was inevitable. Leaving Islam was not easy I was declared Maloon murtad wajib-ul-qatal my entire family was in danger death threats and getting out of the country was not easy. You know exactly what the Sunnah says instead of Tuqya why dont you admit the truth and stop fooling yourself. Islam is just evil cannot be from God.
Ex-Muslim..
It is after the horrific accusations I heard on the internet about the beloved prophet I just couldn’t believe them and started researching and the truth was inevitable.
Is it, May i have some references of your research please even i would want to see Inevitable truth. Ill let you know were did you find that on RSS website am a right which is Agniveer’s … u were never a Muslim and u r not worth to be a muslim.. A muslim will never speak bad about Prophet Mohammed(PBUH)… So plz use ur real name…
Brother Hamid you are right a good Muslim will never say anything bad about Muhammad even if it was the truth and try his best to cover his shame and evil acts, but an honest Ex-Muslim will say the absolute truth. I thought by this statement “you don’t have to say that u r Xmuslim we know very well who u r” By we you meant your fellow jihadis? I thought you knew who i was so why are you asking me my name? And nobody is worth to be a Muslim to call someone a Muslim is a curse by itself. I am going to go easy on you; just like any good Muslim you want to kill me for criticizing Muhammad and also for leaving Islam I know exactly what quality you are. I am going to go easy on you and you probably know it but I want you to research with me lets go step by step and dont run lets talk about Muhammad and my research why do you think people call Muhammad a child molester and what do you understand by “Mufakhazat Alzigaar”? I will get you the hadiths but lets hear your views dont you worry we will talk about Muhammad’s life pertaining to my research in full detail and I will jog your memory with the absolute correct (Sahih) hadiths.
Answer dont run; again why do you think people call Muhammad a child molester and what do you understand by “Mufakhazat Alzigaar”? and we will proceed.
Bastards Like u call it …..
Yes but why do you think Bustards like me call it? what could be the possible reason? May be a 54 year old man old enough to be a grandfather with 6 year old baby wife (5 years old as per English calendar) could that be the reason or your prophet showing sexual interest in a CRAWLING BABY as per (Suhayli, ii. 79: In the riwaya of Yunus I.)? lets hear you reasoning…
that’s what u RSS people and your so called Agniveer is good at spreading terrorism u saffron Terrorist …..
Muslim will never say that it is only people like u will come up from these kind of stories…. u guys will repent for this.. may be its written in your Vedas from were u read it and post it here….
The paapa karma and paapam are different, in Indian thoughts, from that explained in Semitic religion. The sin according to Bible/Quran is the actions against god and god’s will. For Hindus, the sin is your action. It is not at all connected with god. If you disobey god the god will curse you and you will have to suffer is Semitic religious philosophy. God does not have liking and disliking according to Hindu dharma. In Hinduism, god will never curse. Only human beings will curse and god will only bless. All these are giving direct information to us that sin and virtue are not related with god they are related with our good or bad actions. These actions are originated from the thoughts and thoughts, from the mind. Hence paapam and paapa karma are rooted at the mind. Thus, when the Judge gives a verdict for hanging a criminal, it will not be equal to a terrorist putting an individual in the hit (killing) list. Even though the actions remain the same, the mind behind that is different. Thus, the mind behind an ACTION carries more significance than the action itself in Indian philosophy and modern sociology.
The pain given to Mother India by foreigners.
The first foreigner who attacked India was Alexander in BC 326.
In 712 AD Muhammed Bin Kasim with the help of Muhammed Harun attacked India and killed a lot of Hindus and Buddists. Millions had been converted to Islam trough sword. He killed men above 17 and make their women and children slaves. Thousands of temples destroyed and built mosques. He looted India. His army raped a lot of women and they give birth to many muslim children.
In 712 AD June 20 – Muhammed bin Kasim killed 20000 Hindus and converted many who begged for life.
From Period of 1000AD to 1030 AD Mohammed Gazni attacked India,Killed thousands of Hindus, Converted millions of Hindus.1025 AD Somanath temple is attacked by gazni. He broke Idol in to 3 pieces and send each piece to Gazni,Mecca and bagdadh.
More and more incidents happened ……………….
How spread Islam in Indonesia and other country by sword
indoesia is one country they are not even true muslims they still follow many hindu practices they follow mixture of hinduism and islam
You may have noted very interesting points ! ps decent site.
A simple thing of logic-
They say that there are 72 Virgins in the heaven which you shall get if you do Jihad against kafirs, kill them or convert them….etc etc….. And this is the sole reason that many Islamic youths kill people, plant bombs and kill themselves like dumbass.
My question to them is- IF THERE ARE ONLY 72 VIRGINS IN HEAVEN , THE 1ST MUSLIM TO GO TO HEAVEN HAD SLEPT WITH THEM RENDERING ALL OF THEM NON-VIRGINS.
So , what is now left for the second muslim who goes to heaven? All 72 non-virgins.
So, now you wont find any virgins in heaven. You can only find them in this world. So NO NEED TO DO JIHAD. So STOP killing people acting like a bullshit on a false belief and live in peace in this world only …
COZ IN THIS WORLD ONLY YOU CAN GET NOT 72 NOT 72000000 VIRGINS BUT EVEN MORE. ISNT IT BETTER THAN THEIR SO CALLED HEAVEN?
Any of my muslim friends agree with me?
Dear Friend, Please go through the website of agniveer and then you shall be able to defend yourself and your religion. If they ridicule Hinduism, the best religion in the world then ask them a few questions-
1) Why did Prophet Muhammad married and had sex with a 9 year old girl?
2) The hadiths say that one fine day , Prophet Muhammad was walking with his son when he saw his daughter-in-law and got an instant message from Allah (even faster than our smses!), and he ordered his son to leave him. and he married his daughter-in-law and slept with her. How far can your muslim friends justify it?
3) A simple thing of logic-
They say that there are 72 Virgins in the heaven which you shall get if you do Jihad against kafirs, kill them or convert them….etc etc….. And this is the sole reason that many Islamic youths kill people, plant bombs and kill themselves like dumbass.
My question to them is- IF THERE ARE ONLY 72 VIRGINS IN HEAVEN , THE 1ST MUSLIM TO GO TO HEAVEN HAD SLEPT WITH THEM RENDERING ALL OF THEM NON-VIRGINS.
So , what is now left for the second muslim who goes to heaven? All 72 non-virgins.
So, now you wont find any virgins in heaven. You can only find them in this world. So NO NEED TO DO JIHAD. So STOP killing people acting like a bullshit on a false belief and live in peace in this world only …
COZ IN THIS WORLD ONLY YOU CAN GET NOT 72 NOT 72000000 VIRGINS BUT EVEN MORE. ISNT IT BETTER THAN THEIR SO CALLED HEAVEN?
Dear Friend, Please go through the website of agniveer and then you shall be able to defend yourself and your religion. If they ridicule Hinduism, the best religion in the world then ask them a few questions-
1) Why did Prophet Muhammad married and had sex with a 9 year old girl?
2) The hadiths say that one fine day , Prophet Muhammad was walking with his son when he saw his daughter-in-law and got an instant message from Allah (even faster than our smses!), and he ordered his son to leave him. and he married his daughter-in-law and slept with her. How far can your muslim friends justify it?
3) A simple thing of logic-
They say that there are 72 Virgins in the heaven which you shall get if you do Jihad against kafirs, kill them or convert them….etc etc….. And this is the sole reason that many Islamic youths kill people, plant bombs and kill themselves like dumbass.
My question to them is- IF THERE ARE ONLY 72 VIRGINS IN HEAVEN , THE 1ST MUSLIM TO GO TO HEAVEN HAD SLEPT WITH THEM RENDERING ALL OF THEM NON-VIRGINS.
So , what is now left for the second muslim who goes to heaven? All 72 non-virgins.
So, now you wont find any virgins in heaven. You can only find them in this world. So NO NEED TO DO JIHAD. So STOP killing people acting like a bullshit on a false belief and live in peace in this world only …
COZ IN THIS WORLD ONLY YOU CAN GET NOT 72 NOT 72000000 VIRGINS BUT EVEN MORE. ISNT IT BETTER THAN THEIR SO CALLED HEAVEN?
Better to read with positive education
The truth is behind this story is different . All self creative point.
You can certainly see your enthusiasm in the paintings you write. The world hopes for more passionate writers like you who aren’t afraid to say how they believe. All the time go after your heart.
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