Islam is indeed one of the most influential ideologies of our times. The world would have been strikingly different had Islam not been there. All the contemporary discussions we have on various topics, have contribution of Islam hidden somewhere someplace, whether we recognize or not.

Humans have a tendency to exaggerate. I myself also am not perhaps alienated from this trait. Balance, though desirable, is a challenging virtue to follow for the untrained mind. We thus tend to judge people and concepts in extremes – either we call it all black, or all white, either we take it as final word or completely baseless. The controversies surrounding Islam also emanate from this very human characteristic. On one side we have people who claim that Islam and Islam alone is the only available and final word of Allah. To believe in anything beyond Islam is passport to Hell for them. On other side we have people who believe that Islam is cause of all terrorism. And in grip of emotions and peer pressure, it often becomes impossible to attempt to stay unbiased and not drift to one extreme.

At Agniveer, we started a critical analysis of Islam and its tenets which led to sharp division of viewpoints on Islam as discussed above. I am not sure if the articles caused this or articles were merely an alibi for surfacing of this trait which was already present. But this happened, and in process a lot more information was shared and discussed than what was provided in articles.

Let me very clear – the goal of these articles was not to insult or humiliate or criticize any person or group with ill intentions. These were also not spurred from hatred against anyone. The articles were merely an attempt to break foundations of extremist theories being propounded by that school of thought which likes of Zakir Naik and radical Islamists lead. The school of thought which claims that only Muslims believing in Quran, Muhammad etc will go to Heaven, and all other people, regardless of howsomuch virtue they exhibit will go to burn in Hell forever. What could be a more despising and hatred-filled ideology! That all the noble men of our humanity – who sacrificed everything to plant the trees whose fruits we eat so comfortably – will all go to Hell! All those freedom fighters, scientists, social workers, doctors, philantrophists, philosophers and even common men who helped us or our forefathers without any greed, are all cursed by us to burn in Hell forever simply because they did not believe in Zakir Naik’s brand of Islam! Those who gave life for nation and protecting dignity and life of common men and women, the commandos who died fighting terrorists in Mumbai – they all will go to Hell! Dr APJ, Dr Pervez, Abdul Hamid, Ahsfaqullah Khan will go to Hell. And likes of Osama, Kasab etc will go to Heaven because they, to their best knowledge, did everything with belief in Quran, Rasul etc!

It is this version of Islam as described above which we questioned in our articles. We questioned the very foundation of this fanaticism – that “is indeed Quran completely flawless and divine for even a scientist”? And is it that Quran alone is final and only available message of Allah? Do we accept Quran as another well-intentioned human creation intended for Arabs of that era and having some really good tips for today as well, or we simply claim that those who refuse to believe in Quran blindly are Kafirs?

Our tussle is only with these blinded fanatics who breed and nurture terrorism and not against Muslims and Islam in general. We cherish friendship of our loving Muslim friends the way Bismil cherished friendship of  Ashfaqullah and devoted an entire chapter on this great man in his autobiography. We love those Muslims who can easily accept even harmless Kafirs entering into their definition of Heaven and would be ready to go even into Hell to be with poor Kafir friends whose only fault was that they could not trust Quran as final and ONLY available word of Allah.

We may have ideological differences with these Kafir-loving Muslims, but that is true even with non-Muslims. Intellectuals are supposed to have differing view points and that is how society progresses. We may still debate and argue over ideological points, but only as members of same family – humanity and not as warring factions. But at the same time, we also acknowledge the good points in those ideologies with which we have some differences. Agniveer movement started with exploration of these similarities in Why I am a Muslim. We then embraced Muhammad as a genius in another article.

We still maintain that. Muhammad was indeed a genius and was promoter of Vedic ideology of oneness of God and equality. We reject all Hadiths and many translations of verses of Quran as later day interpolations by selfish politically motivated people. Many other verses of Quran are interpreted wrongly by false scholars and presented as right interpretation to nurture fanatic tendencies. We also refuse to believe that Muhammad actually had any revelations of the kind that is claimed. Human mind is a complex thing and such experiences may happen due to various reasons. And then followers exaggerate these events for their own interests. In fact Muhammad abrogated many of his own verses at times to showcase that as all human thoughts, even his thoughts are subject to further improvements/ changes with time. Its a different matter that this was misused by many of his followers to claim abrogation and insert their own agenda in name of Quran.

We shall not go into details of all this. There is no need to provide references for these claims as well because all these are part of of core Islamic ideology – abrogation of verses, Hadiths written after Muhammad’s times, Quran compiled 20 years after his demise, his followers fighting each other and killing the compiler of first Quran etc.

Here we present top four inspirations that we derive from what we believe would have been original message of Muhammad. This may have got distorted though due to later adulterations, but we provide here the most core concept which might have been the original thought of Muhammad during inception of Islam. This is what Islam can surely teach us and we pray that these noble qualities are inculcated in all societies of the world:

1. The most touching lesson to learn from true Islam is the concept of equality. In a mosque, there is no preferred Muslim and non-preferred Muslim. All are equal. They all have same status. Be it a rich Muslim, or a destitute, they all pray and sit in first-cum-first serve order. There are no seat reservations in front for powerful Muslims. This is unlike many Hindu temples where depending upon the ‘dakshina’ you provide, and your status, you can have darshan of idol more quickly and easily. In some temples, privileged bhakts can have darshan from a closer place and for longer duration. I am not sure, when and how this evil practice emerged, but for sure it is a recent phenomenon and should be discarded immediately. And Muslims should be our role-models in this regard for reviving the original Vedic teaching of equality.

2. After Namaz on festive occasions, Muslims embrace each other in mosque. There is no concept of small, big, rich, poor when this embrace of ‘Id Mubarak’ happens. There are no barriers – of clothes, stature, age etc during this display of brotherhood with a warm hug. I pray that all communities of world adopt this brotherhood. This is the core of Vedic ideology. Expression of greeting may change in form and language – but this human-human bonding is the essence of Vedic dharma that was propagated by Muhammad. We desperately need this to be inculcated among Hindus of today and break the artificial walls of caste, status etc.

We recently received some comments on our articles where birth-based discrimination and prohibition of study of Vedas for Shudras on basis of birth was justified. Its a matter of shame that such perverted ideologies still exist to weaken us from inside. We severely condemn such mindsets and consider it both anti-Vedic and criminal. Such enemies of humanity do not even merit a discussion.

Our stand is clear – proactive efforts should be made to bring unity not only among Hindus but among all human beings and caste, gender should be outrightly rejected as determinants of social/ political/ cultural rights. Further, discrimination on basis of power, status, wealth is equally inhuman. We admire Islam for setting a right example in this matter that all humans need to emulate with utmost genuineness.

3. Another great teaching of Islam is its emphasis on charity or Zakat. When I review the ancient literature of Hinduism, I find greatest emphasis on Daana or charity. This was how the gurukul system was preserved and facilitated good work in society. But somewhere down the line, we became too commercial. In today’s era, Hindus are among the worst in terms of Daana. The only Daana that Hindus in general are obsessed with is for temples, yajnas, lavish events etc. But for more core work, hardly any charity comes. This has completely destroyed the gurukul system and for society-building activities there is hardly any funds to carry them effectively.

IRF today has tremendous funds for its activities, even though it is neither a political body nor a mosque. It gets free flow of Zakat to conduct its lavish events. I admit that neo-Wahabi factor has its role in getting a lot of funds for IRF. But nonetheless even the Zakat from non-Wahabi inspired sources is significant. On other hands, most of the programs to raise awareness on our own culture stop or fail because of lack of funds. The only way to access funds from typical Hindus is through conduct of events where influential people are garlanded or political people are eulogized or huge festivals are organized.

For Hindus, this is a great lesson to imbibe from Islam – let there be liberal Daana for those activities that nurture the foundations on which we stand. Geeta extols us to give liberal Daan taking into consideration Place, Situations/Time and the Recipient. Hats off to Muhammad for re-emphasizing the Vedic concept of charity.

4. Finally, we are inspired by the Islamic zeal to prevent vulgarity and nudity in public. A great comforting factor in many conservative Muslim locations is that a sane person can walk freely without bothering about eyes coming across yet another vulgar poster on road or a cheap remix song playing on widescreen. No, I am against the kind of hijaab that Zakir suggests which can cause Vitamin D deficiency. But the glam modeling of Bollywood/ Hollywood is yet another level of decadence that perverted human mind can reach.

The Bollywood today has many Khans, Hashmis, Kumars, Bachchans and Kapoors etc – birth based Hindu and Muslims – but we agree with our sensible Muslim brothers that these people are neither Muslim nor Hindu. They are simply germs of the society which better be quarantined. I personally agree with Shariat laws against them and they echo the message form Vedas – Those who promote vulgarity in society and project women as commodity for pleasure should be hung upside down and thrashed to set the right examples in society.

(No, I am not justifying Shariat in general, but in specific case of those who promote vulgarity, Muslims act as per Vedas in their hatred against his/her misdeeds.)

At least on this final point, I expect right-minded Hindus and Muslims working together to counter the menace of vulgar media and work to prevent depleting character of society.

There is lot more that Islam can teach us. And there is lot more we want to learn from Islam.

We only hope that we are able to counter the menace of fanatics like Zakir Naik, neo-Wahabis and their ideology effectively to nurture this learning process effectively.

May the truth prevail!

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  • LOVE JIHAD!!
    Recently one of colleague called one carpenter to work in his new flat. My colleague had a young maid. The carpenter gave the maid a mobile and lured him away.Fortunately they were trapped by the same mobile in nearby area. When contacted, the carpenter, obviously a muslim thretened to kill the girl if police was called. However under pressure and tracked, he returned the girl.
    It was horrible. We had been offlate hearing this term Love Jihad, but it has reached everywhere!!

  • @agniveer as for your first and second points it is nice that inside the mosque people supposedly sit without rank and are the same. But you forget men and women are separated. There is gender distinction.
    Plus it is not like that social status is forgotten. Muslim societies are very aware of social rank and many still have monarchies/royal families. They may sit next to each other in the mosque and hug each other after festivities but don’t expect to be hugging the king outside or marry his sister if you are a janitor. So what you are praising is limited and superficial. Still good practices but nothing to write home about.

    And there is zero notion of equality in Islam between Muslim and infidel. Zero. It is 100% unequal. The Muslim is superior and the infidel is grossly inferior in Islam subject to abject discrimination and exploitation, jizya tax. Look up “Dhimmi” and how infidel dhimmis were treated.

  • @agniveer
    Zakat is not the same as the Vedic sense of charity. You make the same mistake as so many here in the West. One key purpose of Zakat I s to fund jihad and not the inner struggle jihad but the kill the infidels and engage in Islamic terrorism jihad.

    “The Dark Side of Zakat
    Muslim “Charity” in Context

    by Raymond Ibrahim
    Pajamas Media
    August 15, 2009

    From what American schoolchildren are being taught by their teachers to what Americans are being told by their presidents, concepts unique to Islam are nowadays almost always “Westernized.” Whether the product of naivety, arrogance, or downright disingenuousness, this phenomenon has resulted in epistemic (and thus endemic) failures, crippling Americans from objectively understanding some of Islam’s more troublesome doctrines.

    A typical seventh-grade textbook, for instance, teaches that “jihad represents the human struggle to overcome difficulties and do things that are pleasing to God. Muslims strive to respond positively to personal difficulties as well as worldly challenges. For instance, they might work to be better people, reform society, or correct injustice.”

    Strictly speaking, this is by and large true. However, by not explaining what it means to be “better people, reform society, or correct injustice” — from a distinctly Islamic, as opposed to Western, perspective — the textbook abandons students to fall back on their own (misleading) interpretations.

    Yet the facts remain: In Islam, killing certain “evil-doers,” such as apostates or homosexuals, is a way of “correcting injustice”; overthrowing manmade constitutional orders (such as the United States) and replacing them with Sharia mandates, and subjugating women and non-Muslims, are ways of “reforming society.” Those enforcing all this are, in fact, “better people” — indeed, according to the Koran, they are “the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong [3:110],” that is, ruling according to Sharia law.

    So it is with the Muslim concept of zakat, a word often rendered into English as “charity.” But is that all zakat is — mere Muslim benevolence by way of feeding and clothing the destitute of the world, as the word “charity” all too often connotes?

    U.S. president Barack Hussein Obama seems to think so — or, given his background, is at least banking that others do — based on his recent proclamation to the Muslim world that “in the United States, rules on charitable giving have made it harder for Muslims to fulfill their religious obligation. That is why I am committed to working with American Muslims to ensure that they can fulfill zakat.”

    Thus does Obama conflate a decidedly Islamic concept, zakat, with the generic notion of charity. Is this justified? As with all things Islamic, one must first examine the legal aspects of zakat to truly appreciate its purport. Etymologically related to the notion of “purity,” zakat — paying a portion of one’s wealth to specifically designated recipients — is a way of purifying oneself, on par with prayers (see Koran 9:103).

    The problem, however, has to do with who is eligible for this mandatory “charity.” Most schools of Muslim jurisprudence are agreed to eight possible categories of recipients — one of these being those fighting “in the path of Allah,” that is, jihadis, also known as “terrorists.”

    In fact, financially supporting jihadis is a recognized form of jihad — jihad al-mal; even the vast majority of militant verses in the Koran (e.g., 9:20, 9:41, 49:15, 61:10-11) prioritize the need to fund the jihad over merely fighting in it, as fighting with one’s wealth often precedes fighting with one’s self. Well-known Islamists — from international jihadi Osama bin Laden to authoritative cleric Sheikh Qaradawi — are well aware of this and regularly exhort Muslims to fund the jihad via zakat.

    More revealing of the peculiarly Islamic nature of zakat is the fact that Muslims are actually forbidden from bestowing this “charity” onto non-Muslims (e.g., the vast majority of American infidels). “Charitable” Muslim organizations operating on American soil are therefore no mere equivalents to, say, the Salvation Army, a Christian charity organization whose “ministry extends to all, regardless of ages, sex, color, or creed.” In Islam, creed is a major criterion for receiving “charity” — not to mention for receiving social equality.

    From here, one can better understand Obama’s lament that “in the United States, rules on charitable giving have made it harder for Muslims to fulfill their religious obligation,” a statement that unwittingly implies that American zakat has, in fact, been used to fund the jihad. After all, these irksome “rules” to which Obama alludes appear to be a reference to the presumably “excessive” scrutiny American Muslim “charities” are subject to by law enforcement. Yet this scrutiny is itself a direct byproduct of the fact that American Muslim “charities” have, indeed, been funding the jihad, both at home and abroad.

    In light of all this, what truly remains to be seen is how, precisely, Obama plans on “working with American Muslims to ensure that they can fulfill zakat.”

    Originally published at: http:// pajamasmedia.com/blog/why-muslim-charities-fund-the-jihad/

    Raymond Ibrahim is the associate director of the Middle East Forum and the author of The Al Qaeda Reader, translations of religious texts and propaganda .”
    http://www.meforum.org/2438/zakat-muslim-charity-in-context

    • hey also muslim charity is biased it is to help muslims not humanity also i gone to temples i have yet to see distinctions in temple between men and women

      • Yup. You are correct JA. Muslim zakat is only for Muslims. Everything about Isam is about making Islam supreme the world over and infidels discriminated if not annihilated. (Swathy think about that.)

        “More revealing of the peculiarly Islamic nature of zakat is the fact that Muslims are actually forbidden from bestowing this “charity” onto non-Muslims (e.g., the vast majority of American infidels).” From the article above

      • something being fastest growing religion doesnt mean anything islam has only become the fastest growing religion in the last 10 years and it is growing by births not converts and you think westerners are only converting to islam they are going to many other religions the problem is muslims love to lie to protect their religion and they love to promote their religion the try to show the people that convert to islam but not the people that leave islam.

      • I heard about some miracle that a girl turned into beast kicking the Noble Quran, is it true? And also I wanna know about the conversion of Cheraman Perumal.

      • I heard about some miracle that a girl turned into beast kicking the Noble Quran, is it true? And also I wanna know about the conversion of Cheraman Perumal.

      • Swathy they are united only against infidels. Otherwise Muslims are highly sectarian and kill each other just about as much as the kill infidels. Just look at the daily news. Amadiyas are brutally persecuted and are not even allowed to call them selves Muslims in Islamic countries like Pakistan. Shia and Sunni Muslims have been killing each other for 1400 years. Sunny Muslims are destroying Sufi graves and shrines even today. All this is going on all around the world from Middle East, Africa and Asia and their sectarian violence is reported in the regular news. And with the growing Muslim population in the Western world you are being to see sectarian violence slowly emerge. Already in the US. Sunni Muslim was arrested for trying to bomb a US Shia mosque.

      • Islam is what Mohamed did and said. Swathy start going through this site. http://www.politicalislam.com/principles/pages/five-principles/

        The Five Principles
        Islam’s Trilogy of three sacred texts is the Koran and two books about the life of Mohammed. When the Trilogy is sorted, categorized, arranged, rewritten and analyzed, it becomes apparent that five principles are the foundation of Islam.

        All of Islam is based upon the Trilogy—Koran, Sira (Mohammed’s biography) and Hadith (his Traditions).
        Most of the Islamic doctrine is political, not religious. Islam is a political ideology.

        Islam divides the world into Muslims and unbelievers, kafirs.

        Political Islam always has two different ways to treat kafirs—dualistic ethics. Kafirs can be abused in the worst ways or they can be treated like a good neighbor.

        Kafirs must submit to Islam in all politics and public life. Every aspect of kafir civilization must submit to political Islam.

        These Five Principles can be put in five words—Trilogy, politics, kafirs, dualism and submission. These five words bring clarity and ease of learning about political Islam.

        Up until now Islam has been hard to understand because it seemed complex and contradictory and did not make sense. But, once you see how the Five Principles work, everything falls into place. Complexity becomes simplicity. Chaos becomes order.

        All CSPI books are based on these Five Principles.

        1. trilogy

        The Trilogy contains three books—

        The Koran is what Mohammed said that the angel Gabriel said that Allah said. But the Koran does not contain enough guidance for one to be a Muslim. The Koran repeatedly says that all of the world should imitate Mohammed in every way. Mohammed’s words and deeds are called the Sunna. The Sunna is found in two different texts—the Sira and Hadith.

        The first source of the Sunna is the Sira which is Mohammed’s biography. The most authoritative version is by Ibn Ishaq.

        The other source of the Sunna is the Hadith, the Traditions of Mohammed. There are several versions of Hadith, but the most commonly used is by Bukhari.
        So the Trilogy is the Koran, Sira and Hadith.

        2. political islam

        Political Islam is the doctrine that relates to the unbeliever, the kafir. Islam’s relationship to the kafir cannot be religious since a Muslim is strictly forbidden to have any religious interaction with them The religion of Islam is what is required for a Muslim to avoid Hell and enter Paradise.

        The Trilogy not only advocates a religious superiority over the kafir—the kafirs go to Hell whereas Muslims go to Paradise—but also its doctrine demands that Muslims dominate the kafir in all politics and culture. This domination is political, not religious.

        As mentioned earlier, the Koran has 61% of its text devoted to the kafir. The Sira (Mohammed’s biography) has about 75% of its text devoted to the kafir and jihad.

        Islam’s success comes primarily from its politics. In thirteen years as a spiritual leader, Mohammed converted 150 people to his religion. When he became a political leader and warrior, Islam exploded in growth, and Mohammed became king of Arabia in ten years.

        Islam has a complete doctrine of how to treat the kafir that is found in the Trilogy.

        3. kafirs

        Non-believers are so important that they have several names. Christians and Jews are called People of the Book or infidels. Other religious names for non-Muslims are atheist, polytheist, and pagan. But the Koran uses one word that includes all of the religious names. That name is kafir, an Arabic word.

        Kafir is usually translated as unbeliever, but that translation is wrong. Unbeliever is a neutral word. The Koran is very clear about the kafir. Indeed, the Koran defines the kafir by how it speaks of them. Kafirs are the lowest and worst form of life. Kafirs can be robbed, murdered, tortured, enslaved, crucified and more. Later in this chapter, more of the Koran’s doctrine of the kafir is given in some detail. But the key point is that a kafir is not only a non-Muslim, but also a person who falls under a different moral code from the Muslim.

        The Koran is devoted to the division between those who believe Mohammed, Muslims, and those who do not, kafirs. This grand division of the Koran means that there are two points of view of the Koran—the view of the Muslim and the view of the kafir.

        4. dualism

        The third principle is duality, and is unique to Islam. As an example, here is a verse from the Koran:

        109:2 I do not worship what you worship, and you do not worship what I worship. I will never worship what you worship, and you will never worship what I worship. You to your religion, me to my religion.

        This sounds very tolerant, but this verse was written later:

        9:5 When the sacred months are passed, kill the kafirs wherever you find them. Take them as captives, besiege them, and lie in wait for them with every kind of ambush. If they submit to Islam, observe prayer, and pay the poor tax, then let them go their way. Allah is gracious and merciful.

        Now we have absolute intolerance. This contradiction is normal for the Koran and is even addressed in the Koran. The solution to contradiction is called abrogation where the later verse is better than the earlier verse.

        The logic here is very important. Since Allah is perfect and the Koran is the exact words of Allah, then both contradictory verses are true, but the later verse is better or stronger. This leads to dualistic logic where two contradictory facts can both be true.

        5. submission

        Islam means submission and Muslim means one who has submitted. It is clearly stated in the Trilogy that all kafirs and their civilizations must be annihilated. Mohammed’s success depended on violence to persuade kafirs that he was the prophet of Allah.

        Submission is political, as well as religious. Islam demands that kafirs submit in every aspect of public life. Every part of kafir culture is an offense to Allah.”

      • As for what does jihad mean this explains it

        “Jihad

        Jihad was Mohammed’s greatest invention. It made him successful. Jihad is a misunderstood word. Most jihad is done with money and persuasion, not violence. It is jihad that fills Washington DC with money to buy influence. It is jihad that causes our textbooks in our schools to never mention anything negative about Islam.

        Jihad is surely one of the more famous Arabic words. Jihad does not mean holy war, although it includes holy war. Jihad actually means struggle, which is a much better way to see it because jihad includes much more than war with violence. Jihad can be done with the sword, the mouth, the pen and with money. The Koran calls jihad– fighting in Allah’s cause.

        The Koran lays out the vision of jihad. The Sira (Mohammed’s biography) lays out the grand strategy of jihad. The hadith (the Traditions) give us the tactics-all the small details about what needs to be done. And of course all of these things are modeled upon Mohammed, because Mohammed is not only the perfect Muslim, but also the perfect jihadist. You can see how important jihad is when you read Mohammed’s biography the Sira. Jihad takes up about three quarters of the Sira. There was only a nine-year period in which he pursued intense jihad but the number of pages that are devoted to it gives you an idea of how important it was. The importance is this: Mohammed, the man, the preacher, the religious man, did not succeed until he turned to jihad. It’s only natural that Muslims would look to jihad as their most successful strategy and therefore record the most about it.

        Now let’s take care of one issue. Muslims frequently say, ‘ Well, the real jihad is inner struggle, the spiritual struggle.” That is the Greater Jihad. The jihad of the sword and war is the Lesser Jihad. But the hadith tell us about the greater jihad –the inner spiritual struggle. But only 3% of the hadith are devoted to this kind of struggle. The other 97% are about killing the kafir. Is jihad the inner struggle? Yes. Is jihad killing the kafir? Yes. Notice again we have a duality….Jihad is Islam’s strongest political concept. It can be done with the sword, the pen, by the mouth and with money. Mohammed’s life furnishes Islam with a perfect example of both tactics and strategy for jihad….”

        I would suggest Swathy you read the whole article here http://www.politicalislam.com/blog/jihad/
        and also on the Political Islam site search the word jihad to see all the articles there on jihad.

      • Swathy you can pay more close attention to the daily international news on Muslim on Muslim sectarian violence on your own and you can look at the list of news here at this site http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
        On the right side is a column with news from around the world so you can read it all in one place. It also keeps track of the number of Islamic terrorists attacks around the world since 9-11. It recently passed the 20,000 mark.

    • Islam prohibits sexual perversion and does not discriminate!!! Anyways, I am not gonna dig deep. Just one thing, Swathy, once you convert to Islam, do not then switch over any other religious philosophy because apostasy is punishable by death in Islam (in case Vicjags does not know of it). Could have done a point by point rebuttal but it is useless when there is already so much material already in the cyberspace itself.

      • Swathy and SDC also to be executed in Islam are homosexuals and in the most brutal ways:

        “…al-Tirmidhi (1456), Abu Dawood (4462)and Ibn Maajah (2561) narrated that Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever you find doing the action of the people of Loot, execute the one who does it and the one to whom it is done.”. Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi.

        Ahmad (2915) narrated from Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “May Allaah curse the one who does the action of the people of Loot, may Allaah curse the one who does the action of the people of Loot,” three times. This was classed as hasan by Shu’ayb al-Arna’oot in Tahqeeq al-Musnad.

        The Sahaabah were unanimously agreed on the execution of homosexuals, but they differed as to how they were to be executed. Some of them were of the view that they should be burned with fire, which was the view of ‘Ali (may Allaah be pleased with him) and also of Abu Bakr (may Allaah be pleased with him), as we shall see below. And some of them thought that they should be thrown down from a high place then have stones thrown at them. This was the view of Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him).

        Some of them thought that they should be stoned to death, which was narrated from both ‘Ali and Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with them).

        After the Sahaabah, the fuqaha’ differed concerning the matter. Some of them said that the homosexual should be executed no matter what his situation, whether he is married or not.

        Some of them said that he should be punished in the same way as an adulterer, so he should be stoned if he is married and flogged if he is not married.

        Some of them said that a severe punishment should be carried out on him, as the judge sees fit.

        Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allaah be pleased with him) discussed this issue at length, and he mentioned the evidence and arguments of the fuqaha’, but he supported the first view. This is explained in his book al-Jawaab al-Kaafi’ li man sa’ala ‘an al-Dawa’ al-Shaafi, which he wrote to deal with this immoral action. We will quote some of what he said:

        Because the evil consequences of homosexuality are among the worst of evil consequences, so its punishment is one of the most severe of punishments in this world and in the Hereafter. …” From Islam Q&A. http:// islamqa.info/en/ref/38622

      • Too much of sermonizing without any merit in the arguments put forth. The true test of a philosophy lies in the way its adherents actually behave in the real world. Religion as we know it today goes well beyond a simple relationship between Man and his maker (which should ideally have been the case). In fact, it has a direct bearing on political and social dimensions of human life that is unmistakable. Nobody I believe has stopped this moron to look up the sources to find out more about the religious freedom/bondage that non-Muslims enjoy/suffer from in a Muslim-majority countries (barring only a few of them).

  • It is a nice article indeed!
    However, whatever virtues have been discussed in this article are the essence of every religion, whether it be Buddhism, Hinduism, Jainism, Christianity etc.
    However, since terrorism has got influenced by Islam, it has off late came under public scrutiny.
    Many say Islam teached peace and universal brotherhood.
    However, terrorists say something else and are on a killing spree. Osama would have claimed to be a truer muslim.
    In the history, millions have been killed because they did not agree for conversion.
    This is the terrorist Islam which has proved to be a disgrace for the man kind.
    It is impotant progressive muslims take stock of the situation, do the root cause analysis of terrorism and flush out the hate elements from Islam.

  • The Noble Quran says that
    “The religion before Allah is Islam…(The Noble Quran, 3:19)”
    So Islam is the religion that we must follow.
    Allah Almighty said: “Nay-whoever submits his whole self to Allah and is a doer of good He will get his reward with his Lord; on such shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. (The Noble Quran, 2:112)” He is also the Most Merciful and Most Forgiving; see Noble Verses 2:163, 2:173, 3:89, 2:199, 3:155, 4:17, and many more for proofs.

    • How convenient and self serving. A Muslim points out that Islam says it is the religion before God. Self promotion – no where else does it say Islam is the religion of God/Allah. So then the Muslim promotes Islam as the religion we must follow.

  • Bahá’ís believe that Krishna was a “Manifestation of God”, or one in a line of prophets who have revealed the Word of God progressively for a gradually maturing humanity. In this way, Krishna shares an exalted station with Zoroaster, Buddha, Jesus Christ, the Báb, and the founder of the Bahá’í Faith, Bahá’u’lláh.Members of the Ahmadiyya Community believe Krishna to be a great prophet of God as described by their founder, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. Ghulam Ahmad also claimed to be the likeness of Krishna as a latter day reviver of religion and morality whose mission was to reconcile man with God.Ahmadis maintain that the term Avatar is synonymous with the term ‘prophet’ of the middle eastern religious tradition as God’s intervention with man; as God appoints a man as his vicegerent upon earth. In Lecture Sialkot, Ghulam Ahmed wrote:

    Let it be clear that Raja Krishna, according to what has been revealed to me, was such a truly great man that it is hard to find his like among the Rishis and Avatars of the Hindus. He was an Avatar—i.e., Prophet—of his time upon whom the Holy Spirit would descend from God. He was from God, victorious and prosperous. He cleansed the land of the Aryas from sin and was in fact the Prophet of his age whose teaching was later corrupted in numerous ways. He was full of love for God, a friend of virtue and an enemy of evil.Krishna worship or reverence has been adopted by several new religious movements since the 19th century, and he is sometimes a member of an eclectic pantheon in occult texts, along with Greek, Buddhist, Biblical and even historical figures.For instance, Édouard Schuré, an influential figure in perennial philosophy and occult movements, considered Krishna a Great Initiate; while Theosophists regard Krishna as an incarnation of Maitreya (one of the Masters of the Ancient Wisdom), the most important spiritual teacher for humanity after Buddha.Krishna was canonized by Aleister Crowley and is recognized as a saint in the Gnostic Mass of Ordo Templi Orientis.Reviewers linked the imagery of the blue-skinned Na’vi in James Cameron’s Avatar film to Krishna as one of possible conceptual prototypes for the film’s Hindu theme.
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  • Mughalistan (or Mughalstan) is the name of an independent homeland proposed for the Muslims of India. This Mughal-Muslim state in the Indian subcontinent will include all of North India and Eastern India, and will be formed by merging Pakistan and Bangladesh through a large corridor of land running across the Indo-Gangetic plain, the heartland of India. This Mughalistan corridor will comprise Muslim-majority areas of Northern India and eastern India that will be partitioned for the second time in history.
    The comprehensive plan for a second partition of India was first developed by the Mughalstan Research Institute (MRI) of Jahangir Nagar University (Bangladesh) under the patronage of the two intelligence agencies, Pakistan’s Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) and Bangladesh’s Director General of Forces Intelligence, DGFI. The “Mughalistan Reaserch Institute of Bangladesh” has released a map where a Muslim corridor named “Mughalistan” connects Pakistan and Bangladesh via India.
    The Pakistani Punjabi-dominated ISI’s influence on MRI is evident even in the Punjabi-centric pronunciation of the word ‘Mughalstan’ (without the “i”), instead of the typical Urdu pronunciation (Mughalistan). Islamic Jihadis in India have been well-armed and well-funded by the neighbouring Islamic regimes, as part of Operation Topac – the late Pakistani President Zia-ul-Haq’s grandiose plot to balkanize India.

    Not surprisingly, Osama Bin Laden has thrown his support behind the concept and creation of this Greater Pakistan to “liberate” the Muslims of India from the Hindus. The Mumbai underworld (led by Karachi-based don Dawood Ibrahim who executed the gruesome 1993 Mumbai bombings), Jamaat-e-Islami, Lashkar-e-Tayyaba, Jaish-e-Mohammad and Hizbul Mujahideen have declared their unified support for creating this undivided Islamic nation in the Indian subcontinent. The Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI) and Indian Mujahideen are working in tandem with the aforementioned organizations to waged Jihad against the Hindus of India.

    It is important to note that in its “holy war” against India, the Lashkar-e-Tayyaba has openly declared Hindus to be the “enemies of Islam” who should all be converted or killed. The Lashkar-e-Tayyaba group has repeatedly claimed through its journals and websites that its main aim is to destroy the Indian republic and to annihilate Hinduism. Jaish-e-Mohammed has vowed to “liberate” not just Kashmir, but also to hoist the Islamic flag atop the historic Red Fort after capturing New Delhi and the rest of India.

    SIMI has championed the “liberation of India through Islam” and aim to restore the supremacy of Islam through the resurrection of the Khilafat (Islamic Caliphate), emphasis on the Muslim Ummah (Islamic) and the waging of Jihad on the Indian state, secularism, democracy and nationalism – the basic keystones of the Indian Constitution – as these concepts are antithetical to Islam. The Indian Mujahideen have sent several emails claiming responsibility for several bombings in Lucknow, Varanasi and Faizabad (in Uttar Pradesh), Bangalore, Jaipur, Ahmedabad and New Delhi in 2007 and 2008. The emails refer to notorious Islamic conquerors of India (Mohammed bin Qasim, Mohammad Ghauri and Mahmud Ghaznawi) as their role-models, refer to Hindu blood as “blood to be the cheapest of all mankind” and taunt Hindus that their “[Hindu] history is full of subjugation, humiliation, and insult [at the hands of Islamic conquerors]“.

    The Indian Mujahideen’s emails warn the Hindus to “Accept Islam and save yourselves” and or else face a horrible fate: – “Hindus! O disbelieving faithless Indians! Haven’t you still realized that the falsehood of your 33 crore dirty mud idols and the blasphemy of your deaf, dumb, mute and naked idols of ram, krishna and hanuman are not at all going to save your necks, Insha-Allah, from being slaughtered by our [Muslim] hands?”

  • I liked this article. The four ideas/social systems prevalent in Islam, which must be adopted by all Hindus, nay, all humanity that you mentioned in this article, viz. equality in religious places, equality in social functions, charity wholeheartedly & boycotting all sorts of vulgarity/nudity in society are very important & useful for our society/religion. I support you wholeheartedly on these points. Basically, we cannot eliminate the Muslims altogather from our country/society. Rather we should co-operate with the liberals & broadminded ones among them.

  • Your website is great. I too do not believe in caste system. Hindus have to learn god things like equality etc. Islam has done too many crimes against non-Muslims especially to Hindus. Islam must reform itself and become a tolerant religion, else it will be relegated to dust bin of history.

  • If there is equality in Islam then why did prophet say that people in his clan are better than others? Why do arab muslims consider no-arab muslims lower than them? Why do muslims practice caste system in India? Why do muslims demand caste based reservations extended to them?

    • HINDUISM IS NOT A RELIGION IT WAS NAMED AFTER THE INDOOS VALLEY,

      THERE IS SO LITTLE GENERAL POLITICAL ORGANIZATION AMONG THE Hindus that Brahmanic India may be called a society without an organized state. Hindu society consists of a large aggregation of practically autonomous small communities held together by mutual dependence. There have been kings among the Hindus from time immemorial, but, so far as we know, these have always governed in the interest of ruling caste or estate. there are enormousn caste system in hindusim right from touchables and untochables originated from hindu society , harijan and brahmins and there is a big list , abt the caste system in hindusim.

      there is lot OF CASTE ISSUES IN HINDUISM TODAY

      with regards to islam as religion, there is no one is superior TO ANOTHER there is no race system, there is color discrimation and there is no superior/ inferior differenceS

      The Islam religion teaches no discrimation

      DONT JUDGE THE CAR BY ITS DRIVER.

      • The common rhetoric that Hinduism and Hindu are foreign words

        In many of my debates with alleged atheists and proselytizers, I come across this argument that

        1.The word Hindu is of foreign origin and hence we must call our faith by a different name.

        2. Hinduism was not an umbrella faith until the British attempted the feat. (citing the fact that the British added the -ism to the already known term Hindu in the 18th century)

        let us examine these arguments in the wake of historical and archaeological evidences.

        Let’s first bust argument number 1.

        Many Christians don’t know that Christianity got it’s name from foreigners too!

        The followers of Jesus were just called disciples. It was the Romans who first called these disciples as Christians.

        Don’t believe me? let’s hear it from Bible

        “And when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. So it was that for a whole year they assembled with the church and taught a great many people. And the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch.” – King James (Act: 11:26)

        Now would it be any wise to say that Christianity did not exist until Romans christened it’s adherents as Christians? ….NO!
        How wise it would be for a Christian to NOW call himself/herself a Disciple instead of a Christian? Very foolish I would say(and you would agree)

        Similarly it is unwise to say that the various sects within the fold of Hinduism did not exist before the coinage of the term.

        Nor is it wise to hunt for a new umbrella term (By the way, the other more appropriate name : Sanatana Dharma is known to many Hindus but not a popular term).

        Now let’s examine argument number 2

        (This argument has started surfacing after the biased representation of Hinduism on Encyclopaedia Britannica’s site. The article on Hinduism has been written by the controversial Dr. Wendy Doniger who is ill famous for applying the unscientific psycho analysis methods to Hindu Scriptures so that erotica to could be extracted out of them. She refuses to get psychoanalyzed herself! To know how biased Encyclopaedia Britannica has been against Hinduism ..read this brilliant case exposing the same by Mr. Amit Raj Dhawan )

        Any ways, the cartel of Wendy Donigers and Michael Witzels are getting exposed in the academia and scholarly circles and they would end up as missionary Max Mullers in the annals of history.so let them face their karma.

        We can rather easily bust this argument #2 with historical and archeological evidences itself.

        If the claim is that British (who came in the 17th century) organized the various sects within Hinduism, How come
        Al Beruni (1030 AD) documents this collective place of worship ?

        Alberuni’s India. An account of the religion, philosophy, literature, geography, chronology, astronomy,customs, laws and astrology of India about A.D. 1030″

        “Rama gave very long and tedious instructions. Further, he ordered that servants and priests to minister to the idols should be nominated from different classes of the people. “To the idol of Vishnu are devoted the class called Bhagavata ; to the idol of the Sun, the Maga, i.e. the Magians ; to the idol of Mahadeva, a class of saints, anchorites with long hair, who cover their skin with ashes, hang on their persons the bones of dead people, and swim in the pools. The Brahmana are devoted to the Eight Mothers, the Shamanians to Buddha, to Arhant the class called Nagna. On the whole, to each idol certain people are devoted who constructed it, for those know best how to serve it.”

        This clearly shows that the various sects within the fold of Hinduism were not only organized but co-existed in peaceful harmony at least 700 years before the British invasion

        The ellora caves , elephanta caves and the various southeast Asian temples (Indonesia,Thailand,Malaysia) (5th century onwards ) are standing testimony to the existence and spread of various Hindu Deities across south Asia and south east Asia ..even before the whole of Europe converted to Christianity (6th century)

        (*I am not embedding the photographs on this page as the images are copyright property of Huntington Archive. Clicking on the link takes you to the respective Huntington archive page in a new window)

        Fourth Century Ganesha: UP : India

        401 CE Ganesha: Udaygiri: India

        Fifth Century Ganesha: West Bengal :India

        Fifth Century classic sculpture showing Buddha, Indra and Brahma together!: sanchi :
        India (source:archaelogy-online)
        Now is there anydoubt left as to the coexistence of various sects within Hinduism AT LEAST as far back as 5th century CE ?

        Sixth Century Ganesha : Ellora :India

        Sixth Century Ganesha: Deo Garh Vishnu Temple :India

        Indrani, Chamunda, Ganesha : 7th-8th century :Alampur: India (This also confirms that vedic deities co existed with puranic deities even in the eighth century)

  • Yes I agree with the author’s view point. Unity, religious affection, not consuming alcohol, opposing vulgarity, following the basic edicts of commercial trading, not taking interest, not missing the daily prayer wherever they go and so many.
    Still Islam is a big question mark and they never proved their trustworthiness. The individual Muslims, the clergy, the intellectual learned Muslims all are not realized what is civilization and all are portraying the medieval concept propagated by Mohamed and moving towards Stone Age. It is really a shame on every Muslim to behave like this and showing non compatibility with other religious people and promoting terrorism and threading the peaceful existence of human race. All the Muslim women should boldly come out from the clutches of Islam and through away the slavery dresses imposed on them.
    After the world wars all most all the nations got liberated and started to live peacefully. It is because of Russia and America intervention in all most all the Muslim countries to establish their superiority forced the Muslim to go back to the medieval practices and it was taken a serious shape due to oil wealth explored by the big brothers. If this interference were not taken place definitely the Muslim became a matured group compatible with other religious group.

  • 1) There is no equality in life. Respect/ Proper Treatment etc are different from equality.
    2) There is no need to hug to display bodily gestures. All are respectable as long as they command respect. A sweeper, who does the sweeping job with sincerity is respectable. That doesn’t mean annual hugging.
    3) Charity: It is the job of King to conduct charity. If people are left to charity by religion, it is a direct clash of power and the King loses grip over subjects
    4) virtue is difficult. Shri Ram asked Ravan as he died to disclose the wisdom he had gathered in his life and Ravan said “It is easy to get attracted to vices and difficult to practice virtue”

    • 1. Equality in this context implies similar treatment regardless of caste/ income etc

      2. Instead of hug one can do namaste or say hello or whatever. The core concept is that proactive steps to promote sense of brotherhood should be taken. Form may differ. Unless there is a way to express, how will a sweeper know that he is being respected by non-sweepers?

      3. Your views are misleading here. If only king is supposed to do, and king turns to be like what we have today in India, then God save us from doom!

      4. Virtue is difficult but still it remains our goal.

      Dhanyavad

      • 1.If there is Equality in Islam, Can anybody ask at least 10% of Saudi men to Marry Somalia women to improve the status of somailan people ,where both are Muslims. Let me see their equality in reality.
        2.Hug : Can they hug any Leprosy or Aids patients?
        3.If Islam providing Zakat or Daana, y more poverty and crime exists more in Islamic state?
        4. Vulgarity : I agree there must not be any vulgar in dress.

        One can claim Islam is equality, but when it comes to reality how many of them will agree?

        Internally majority of men or women(in all religion) seek for rich and handsome

        If the equality applicable only inside Masjid it is meaningless.

        The real equality means, one should not see difference in people Language, Color, Country, wealth, religion, caste etc and feel only as Human. Show me how many muslims are following this?

      • Good questions! I believe Muslims should rise up to meet these challenges to align contemporary Islam with original concepts that perhaps prevailed in Muhammad’s mind before compilation of modern Quran by his followers. We keenly await feedback of our Muslim readers of the site, on this article in general and these points raised in particular.

      • @sds:
        1: first of all, u cannot state that saudi men are the best muslims. a true muslim is not suppose to tell everyone that he is the pious of them all.instead muslims are order to do virtuous deeds such that if they are doing it using their right hand, then the left hand is unaware. so no body can say that saudi’s are the best muslims.regarding hugging somalian muslims, every muslim is brother with other muslim, wheter rich or poor, and marrying these women make them more pious…one who marries somalian women to give them shelter n food will be rewarded by the Allah.
        i would like to tell u people in very simple words that the image of islam that you take is not what it actually is…what islamic ideology states is that every sin has attracion in it…but to one who avoids them is a better muslim. and practicing islamic teachings regularly that Allah has ordered to do so, subsiding your own priorities will be rewarded the most by Allah…but every muslim is not perfect…rather no one can be perfect.only Muhammad was the perfect person who performed every thing the way it should be done…rest of the muslims who claims themselves as one are not perfect,even the most virtuous one assumed by everyother person could have commited sins…its between a muslim and Allah.but what we are suppose to do is to become as closely perfect as was Muhammad. all those muslims who are murderers, robbers, rapers and whatever are not a bit near to true islam or they wouldnt commited such shameful acts.n those who did will be punished severely.as discribed in this article that the people astrayed from the teachings of geeta n vedas, so are the muslims astrayed from quranic teachings and acts.otherwise when islam was followed properly, muslims ruled almost 80% of the then known land mass. as they left the real quranic teachings, they were ruled out. n those nonmuslims who adopted the quranic teachings without belief in it, they succeeded.

      • ISLAM TEACHES to worship the CREATOR and not the CREATED.
        WORSHIP ONE GOD
        What separates Islam( the religion of ALLAH the almighty creator from the other religion(Manmade).Answer is the Idols.
        Every manmade religion has some or the other kind of Idols made by their imagination to form someone as God to worship.
        In Islam , ALLAH is unseen( al Ghayb), the unseen.
        and this is what Allah says in Quran :
        Surah Ikhlas:
        Say: He is Allah, the One and Only! Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not nor is He begotten. And there is none like unto Him.
        Allah is the name of the almighty creator which was used right from adam alaisalam to Noah alaisalam , Musa(moses) alaisalam, Isa(jesus) alaisalam and all the prophets who came before them and the last prophet of Allah that’s Muhammad swalle la alaihi was sallam.
        The Arabic word “Islam” means the submission or surrender of one’s will to the only true god worthy of worship “Allah”
        All the prophets right from Adam alaisalam to last prophet Muhammad SWAS, they all submitted and surrendered their Will to one true ALLAH. They believed in him and Acted according to Allah’s Command on the righteous Way.
        Islam is a Principle, This principle was followed by all the prophets of believing only in Allah( one true GOD to worship)
        The name of Allah’s religion lslam was not decided upon by later generations of man.
        The name of this principle was decided by ALLAH In the final book of divine revelation, the Qur’aan.
        And ALLAH named this principle as ISLAM.
        Allah states the following:
        “This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion”. (Soorah Al-Maa’idah 5:3).

        THE RELIGION OF ISLAM
        The first thing that one should know and clearly understand about Islam is what the word “Islam” itself means.

        The religion of Islam is not named after a person as in the case of Christianity which was named after Jesus Christ, Buddhism after Gotama Buddha, Confucianism after Confucius, and Marxism after Karl Marx. Nor was it named after a tribe like Judaism after the tribe of Judah and Hinduism after the Hindus.

        Islam is the true religion of “Allah” and as such, its name represents the central principle of Allah’s “God’s” religion; the total submission to the will of Allah “God”.

        The Arabic word “Islam” means the submission or surrender of one’s will to the only true god worthy of worship “Allah” and anyone who does so is termed a “Muslim”,

        The word also implies “peace” which is the natural consequence of total submission to the will of Allah. Hence, it was not a new religion brought by Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) I in Arabia in the seventh century, but only the true religion of Allah re-expressed in its final form.

        Islam is the religion which was given to Adam, the first man and the first prophet of Allah, and it was the religion of all the prophets sent by Allah to mankind.

        The name of God’s religion lslam was not decided upon by later generations of man.

        It was chosen by Allah Himself and clearly mentioned in His final revelation to man.

        In the final book of divine revelation, the Qur’aan, Allah states the following:

        “This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion”. (Soorah Al-Maa’idah 5:3)

        THE MESSAGE OF ISLAM
        Since the total submission of one’s will to Allah represents the essence of worship, the basic message of Allah’s divine religion, Islam is the worship of Allah alone and the avoidance of worship directed to any person, place or thing other than Allah.Since everything other than Allah, the Creator of all things, is Allah’s creation; it may be said that Islam, in essence calls man away from the worship of creation and invites him to worship only its Creator. He is the only one deserving man’s worship as it is only by His will that prayers are answered. If man prays to a tree and his prayers are answered, it was not the tree which answered his prayers but Allah who allowed the circumstances prayed for to take place. One might say, “That is obvious,” however, to tree-worshippers it might not be. Similarly, prayers to Jesus, Buddha, or Krishna, to Saint Christopher, or Saint Jude or even to Muhammad, are not answered by them but are answered by Allah

      • THE MESSAGE OF FALSE RELIGION
        There are so many sects, cults, religions, philosophies, and movements in the world, all of which claim to be the right way or the only true path to Allah. How can one determine which one is correct or if, in fact, all are correct? The method by which the answer can be found is to clear away the superficial differences in the teachings of the various claimants to the ultimate truth, and identify the central object of worship to which they call, directly or indirectly.
        False religions all have in common one basic concept with regards to Allah.

        They either claim that all men are gods or that specific men were Allah or that nature is Allah or that Allah is a figment of man’s imagination.

        Thus, it may be stated that the basic message of false religion is that Allah may be worshipped in the form of His creation.

        False religion invites man to the worship of creation by calling the creation or some aspect of it God. For example, prophet Jesus invited his followers to worship Allah but those who claim to be his followers today call people to worship Jesus, claiming that he was Allah!

        Buddha was a reformer who introduced a number of humanistic principles to the religion of India.

        He did not claim to be God nor did he suggest to his followers that he be an object of worship.
        Yet, today most Buddhists who are to be found outside of India have taken him to be God and prostrate to idols made in their perception of his likeness.

        By using the principle of identifying the object of worship, false religion becomes very obvious and the contrived nature of their origin clear.

        As ALLAH said in the Our’aan:
        That which you worship besides Him are only names you and your forefathers have invented for which Allah has sent down no authority: The command belongs only to Allah:

        He has commanded that you only worship Him; that is the right religion, but most men do not understand “. (Soorah Yoosuf 12:40)
        It may be argued that all religions teach good things so why should it matter which one we follow. The reply is that all false religions teach the greatest evil, the worship of creation. Creation-worship is the greatest sin that man can commit because it contradicts the very purpose of his creation. Man was created to worship Allah alone as Allah has explicitly stated in the Our’aan:

        “I have only created Jlnns and men, that they may worship me”(Soorah Zaareeyaat 51:56)
        Consequently, the worship of creation, which is the essence of idolatry, is the only unforgivable sin. One who dies in this state of idolatry has sealed his fate in the next life. This is not an opinion, but a revealed fact stated by Allah in his final revelation to man:

        “Verily Allah will not forgive the joining of partners with Him, but He may forgive (sins) less than that for whom so ever He wishes”(Soorah An- Nisaa 4:48 and 116)
        THE UNIVERSALITY OF ISLAM
        Since the consequences of false religion are so grave, the true religion of Allah must be universally understandable and attainable, not confined to any people, place or time.

        There can not be conditions like baptism, belief in a man, as a saviour etc., for a believer to enter paradise.
        Within the central principle of Islam and in its definition, (the surrender of one’s will to God) lies the roots of lslam’s universality.
        Whenever man comes to the realization that Allah is one and distinct from His creation, and submits himself to Allah, he becomes a Muslim in body and spirit and is eligible for paradise.

        Thus, anyone at anytime in the most remote region of the world can become a Muslim, a follower of God’s religion, Islam, by merely rejecting the worship of creation and by turning to Allah (God) alone-It should be noted however, that the recognition of and submission to Allah requires that one chooses between right and wrong and such a choice implies accountability.

        Man will be held responsible for his choices, and, as such, he should try his utmost to do good and avoid evil.
        The ultimate good being the worship of Allah alone and the ultimate evil being the worship of His creation along with or instead of Allah. This fact is expressed in the final revelation as follows:

        “Verily those who believe, those who follow the Jewish (Scriptures), the Christians and the Sabians any who believe In Allah and the last day, and work righteousness *hall have their reward with their Lord;They will not be overcome by fear nor grief (Soorah Al-Baqarah 2:62).
        If only they had stood by the law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that was sent to them from their Lord, they would have enjoyed happiness from every side. There Is from among them a party on the right course; but many of them follow a course that Is evil.”. (Soorah Al-.Maa’idah 5:66)

      • RECOGNITION OF ALLAH
        The question which arises here is, “How can all people be expected to believe in Allah given their varying- backgrounds, societies and cultures? For people to be responsible for worshipping Allah they all have to have access to knowledge of Allah.

        The final revelation teaches that all mankind have the recognition of Allah imprinted on their souls, a part of their very nature with which they are created.

        In Soorah Al-A’raaf, Verses 172-173; Allah explained that when He created Adam, He caused all of Adam’s descendants to come into existence and took a pledge from them saying, Am I not your Lord? To which they all replied, ” Yes, we testify to It:’
        Allah then explained why He had all of mankind bear witness that He is their creator and only true God worthy of worship. He said, “That was In case you (mankind) should say on the day of Resurrection, “Verily we were unaware of all this.” That is to say, we had no idea that You Allah, were our God. No one told us that we were only supposed to worship You alone. Allah went on to explain That it was also In case you should say, “Certainly It was our ancestors who made partners (With Allah) and we are only their descendants; will You then destroy us for what those liars did?” Thus, every child is born with a natural belief in Allah and an inborn inclination to worship Him alone called in Arabic the “Fitrah”.

        If the child were left alone, he would worship Allah in his own way, but all children are affected by those things around them, seen or unseen.

        The Prophet (PBUH) reported that Allah said, “I created my servants in the right religion but devils made them go astray”. The Prophet (PBUH) also said, “Each child is born in a state of “Fitrah”, then his parents make him a Jew, Christian or a Zoroastrian, the way an animal gives birth to a normal offspring. Have you noticed any that were born mutilated?” (Collected by Al-Bukhaaree and Muslim).
        So, just as the child submits to the physical laws which Allah has put in nature, his soul also submits naturally to the fact that Allah is his Lord and Creator.

        But, his parents try to make him follow their own way and the child is not strong enough in the early stages of his life to resist or oppose the will of his parents. The religion which the child follows at this stage is one of custom and upbringing and Allah does not hold him to account or punish him for this religion.

        Throughout people’s lives from childhood until the time they die, signs are shown to them in all regions of the earth and in their own souls, until it becomes clear that there is only one true God (Allah).

        If the people are honest with themselves, reject their false gods and seek Allah, the way will be made easy for them but if they continually reject Allah’s signs and continue to worship creation, the more difficult it will be for them to escape.

        For example, in the South Eastern region of the Amazon jungle in Brazil, South America, a primitive tribe erected a new hut to house their main idol Skwatch, representing the supreme God of all creation.

        The homage to the God, and while he was in prostration to what he had been taught was his Creator and Sustainer, a mangy old flea-ridden dog walked into the hut, The young man looked up in time to see the dog lift its hind leg and pass urine on the idol. Outraged, the youth chased the dog out of the temple, but when his rage died down he realized that the idol could not be the Lordof the universe.

        Allah must be elsewhere. he now had a choice to act on his knowledge and seek Allah, or to dishonestly go along with the false beliefs of his tribe. As strange as it may seem, that was a sign from Allah for that young man. It contained within it divine guidance that what he was worshipping was false.

        Prophets were sent, as was earlier mentioned, to every nation and tribe to support man’s natural belief in Allah and man’s inborn inclination to worship Him as well as to reinforce the divine truth in the daily signs revealed by Allah. Although, in most cases, much of the prophets’ teachings became distorted, portions remained which point out right and wrong.

        For example, the ten commandments of the Torah, their confirmation in the Gospels and the existence of laws against murder, stealing and adultery in most societies. Consequently, every soul will be held to account for its belief in Allah and its acceptance of the religion of Islam; the total submission to the will of Allah.

        We pray to Allah, the exalted, to keep us on the right path to which He has guided us, and to bestow on us a blessing from Him, He is indeed the Most Merciful. Praise and gratitude be to Allah,the Lord of the worlds, and peace and blessings be on prophet Muhammed, his Family, his companions, and those who rightly follow them.

      • tanada28
        You rightly pointed out that What separates Islam (the religion of ALLAH from the other religion. Answer is the Idols.

        Since Muslims bow down, kiss and circumambulate to the biggest idol of the world Kaba, they are the biggest idol worshippers. So this is the biggest difference between Allah’s religion and others. Also they worship dead in graves and associate partner Muhammad with Allah in prayers and belief. But one more difference is that the followers of Allah’s religion are expert in copying and pasting and are often caught in plagiarism but do not consider themselves guilty of it because they think that everything belongs to Allah and Allah belongs to them!

      • ah ah ah ah

        Seriously no jokes, when i read your reply i had the best laugh ever…LOL
        Is it ignorance or arrogance or uneducation or lack of power to think or lack of research or lack of knowledge,

        Anyways no probs with your thoughts i get that a lot really ! ah ah ah

        , i can’t force you u to think in the justified way becuz lot of people (u are not alone in the blind crowd), & i seriously mean it ,

        but thats absolutely OK, we get that a lot, we really fun, becuz that how we come to know how people like you can be mind controlled and brainwashed.

        seriously i can’t believe it, but i can’t stop laughing as well. they dont have anything better to do so keep changing the hindusim as per their convenience.

        After removing the word ” Allah” from the vedas , these idol worshippers can go down to any level for misguiding people….

        There is a widespread false-conception and misunderstanding among the non-believers about the Ka’bah!

        Many non-muslims say and preach that the Muslims “worship” a stone building – the Cube.

        But That is not True at all..

        what is the most efficient and effective way to control the world and people like you

        Two words………

        Mind control

        crowd like you are easy to be mind controlled and can be brainwashed easily
        becuz how narrow your thinking can be.

        And you what…i have got this real thing called ”thinking”, thats why you see!

        I M NOT LIKE OTHERS, i dont judge a car by its driver.

        The Foundation of Islam, is to believe in one Allah, and to worship Allah alone.

        The Ka’abah in Makkah was built by Prophet Adam(the first man on earth. God commanded Prophet Ibraheem to reconstruct it.

        Allah knew this is going to happen and the non believers will taunt the Muslims with the message that muslims pray the cube…

        Allah himself Gives the answer to the non-believers in the Quran…

        Allah( creator & master of the universe) gives this answers to non-believers:

        Allah says” Behold! We showed the site to Ibraheem, of the Sacred House saying: “Associate no partners with Me and purify My House for those who compass it round or stand upright in prayers, or bow or prostrate themselves in worship.
        [The Holy Qur’an, Surah 22:26]

        lets me answer your query ……………..i’ve been waitin a lot for it…

        Kaaba is the Qibla i.e. the direction Muslims face during their prayers.
        . Muslims worship and bow to none but Allah.

        . Islam believes in fostering unity

        For instance, if Muslims want to offer Salaah (Prayer), it is possible that some may wish to face north, while some may wish to face south. In order to unite Muslims in their worship of the One True God, Muslims, wherever they may be, are asked to face in only one direction i.e. towards the Kaaba. If some Muslims live towards the west of the Kaaba they face the east. Similarly if they live towards the east of the Kaaba they face the west.

        2. Kaaba is at the Centre of the World Map

        The Muslims were the first people to draw the map of the world. They drew the map with the south facing upwards and north downwards. The Kaaba was at the centre. Later, western cartographers drew the map upside down with the north facing upwards and south downwards. Yet, Alhamdullilah the Kaaba is at the centre of the world map.

        3. Tawaaf around Kaaba for indicating one God

        When the Muslims go to Masjid-e-Haram in Makkah, they perform tawaaf or circumambulation round the Kaaba. This act symbolizes the belief and worship of One God, since, just as every circle has one centre, so also there is only one Allah (swt) worthy of worship.

        4. People stood on Kaaba and gave the adhaan

        At the time of the Prophet, people even stood on the Kaaba and gave the ‘adhaan’ or the call to prayer. One may ask those who allege that Muslims worship the Kaaba,
        which idol worshipper stands on the idol he worships?

        NO doubt, Scientist today discovered the the golden Ratio of the world is Kaaba.

        There you go girl….enjoy your self,
        cheer’s babe, i hope you got the answer.

      • Grave worship is an innovation by some culprits who are just muslims by name

        I know ,its sad, that’s Vajra, i wont tell you anything on this, i am not person who run’s from fact ,

        as i told you there are black sheeps in all family,

        For example vedas teach to wroship one true god, but there majority of people worship the idols , deads , baba’s ,saints, and i have a big list,

        I just don’t support the grave worshippers, & its the biggest biggest SIN in islam,these so called people are actually maligning the religion and making bad name for people like us

        I wont say anything to you , becuz , i have some people in my area too who do these thing , either they blind by heart,mind and brains or they are dead in soul like the,dead are in their bodies.

        Becuz in support of my religion and the creator & the master of universe , i would like to say just one thing

        Islam does not Allow it.
        Islam does not Allow it.
        Islam does not Allow it.

        When some people calling on to some dead people for their wish, they are actually doing Shirk, its cleary mentioned in quran , that allah will not forgive Shirk at any cost, even if you are a muslim.

        Some people are doing thinks which resembles the culture of what the Kafirs do, and they have it innovated.

        [al-Ahzaab 33:36] Allah Says ”It is not for a believer, man or woman, when Allaah and His Messenger have decreed a matter that they should have any option in their decision. And whoever disobeys Allaah and His Messenger, he has indeed strayed into a plain error”

        …worshipping anything other than Allah is forbidden and sharing your worship /Faith with anything else is also forbidden. These people are clearly following the wrong path and should stop for their own sakes.

        The Muslims must beware of this dangerous phenomenon and ensure that the mosques are free of graves and are established on the basis of Tawheed and sound belief.
        Allah says in Quran

        (interpretation of the meaning): “And the mosques are for Allaah (Alone), so invoke not anyone along with Allaah” [al-Jinn 72:18].

        SECONDLY,
        Allah says in Quran – Surah Baqarah: (Verse:186)
        ” And when My servants ask you, [O Muhammad], concerning Me – indeed I am near. I respond to the invocation of the supplicant when he calls upon Me. So let them respond to Me [by obedience] and believe in Me that they may be [rightly] guided.”

        Some people are doing thinks which resembles the culture of what the Kafirs do, and they have it innovated.

        this is complete innovation from some people who are just muslims by name only…rest all they follow is non-believers customs and tradition.

        I hope my Views may change thinking of some muslims in a positive way and they will start thinking the real meaning of islam, and stop doing this so called form of shirk.

        The Muslims must beware of this dangerous phenomenon and ensure that the mosques are free of graves and are established on the basis of Tawheed and sound belief. Allah says

        (interpretation of the meaning): “And the mosques are for Allaah (Alone), so invoke not anyone along with Allaah” [al-Jinn 72:18].

        and yes
        Hey, Don’t blame religion for what people do.
        Grave worship is an innovation by some culprits who are just muslims by name

        I know ,its sad, that’s Vajra, i wont tell you anything on this, i am not person who run’s from fact ,

        as i told you there are black sheeps in all family, for example vedas teach to wroship one true god master of the universe, but there majority of people worship the idols , deads , baba’s ,saints, and i have a big list,

        I just don’t support the grave worshippers, & its the biggest biggest SIN in islam,these so called people are actually maligning the religion and making bad name for people like us

        I wont say anything to you , becuz , i have some people in my area too who do these thing , either they blind by heart,mind and brains or they are dead in soul like the,dead are in their bodies.

        Becuz in support of my religion and the creator & the master of universe , i would like to say just one thing

        Islam does not Allow it.
        Islam does not Allow it.
        Islam does not Allow it.

        When some people calling on to some dead people for their wish, they are actually doing Shirk, its cleary mentioned in quran , that allah will not forgive Shirk at any cost, even if you are a muslim.

        Some people are doing thinks which resembles the culture of what the Kafirs do, and they have it innovated.

        [al-Ahzaab 33:36] Allah Says ”It is not for a believer, man or woman, when Allaah and His Messenger have decreed a matter that they should have any option in their decision. And whoever disobeys Allaah and His Messenger, he has indeed strayed into a plain error”

        …worshipping anything other than Allah is forbidden and sharing your worship /Faith with anything else is also forbidden. These people are clearly following the wrong path and should stop for their own sakes.

        The Muslims must beware of this dangerous phenomenon and ensure that the mosques are free of graves and are established on the basis of Tawheed and sound belief.
        Allah says in Quran

        (interpretation of the meaning): “And the mosques are for Allaah (Alone), so invoke not anyone along with Allaah” [al-Jinn 72:18].

        SECONDLY,
        Allah says in Quran – Surah Baqarah: (Verse:186)
        ” And when My servants ask you, [O Muhammad], concerning Me – indeed I am near. I respond to the invocation of the supplicant when he calls upon Me. So let them respond to Me [by obedience] and believe in Me that they may be [rightly] guided.”

        Some people are doing thinks which resembles the culture of what the Kafirs do, and they have it innovated.

        this is complete innovation from some people who are just muslims by name only…rest all they follow is non-believers customs and tradition.

        I hope my Views may change thinking of some muslims in a positive way and they will start thinking the real meaning of islam, and stop doing this so called form of shirk.

        The Muslims must beware of this dangerous phenomenon and ensure that the mosques are free of graves and are established on the basis of Tawheed and sound belief. Allah says

        (interpretation of the meaning): “And the mosques are for Allaah (Alone), so invoke not anyone along with Allaah” [al-Jinn 72:18].

        and hey , don’t blame the religion for what people do.!

        The religion of Islam is based on two principles: that we should worship nothing besides Allaah Alone, and that we should worship Him in the manner that He has prescribed, not by means of bid’ah or reprehensible innovations. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “… So whoever hopes for the Meeting with his Lord, let him work righteousness and associate none as a partner in the worship of his Lord.” [al-Kahf 18:110].

        Righteous deeds are those which are loved by Allaah and His Messenger, those which are prescribed in Islam and in the Sunnah. Thus ‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab (may Allaah be pleased with him) used to say in his du’aa’: “O Allaah, make all of my deeds righteous and make them purely for Your sake, and do not let there be any share for anyone or anything else in them.”

      • and hey , don’t blame the religion for what people do.!

        The religion of Islam is based on two principles: that we should worship nothing besides Allaah Alone, and that we should worship Him in the manner that He has prescribed, not by means of bid’ah or reprehensible innovations. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “… So whoever hopes for the Meeting with his Lord, let him work righteousness and associate none as a partner in the worship of his Lord.” [al-Kahf 18:110].

        Righteous deeds are those which are loved by Allaah and His Messenger, those which are prescribed in Islam and in the Sunnah. Thus ‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab (may Allaah be pleased with him) used to say in his du’aa’: “O Allaah, make all of my deeds righteous and make them purely for Your sake, and do not let there be any share for anyone or anything else in them.”

      • Adatan (Habitual) Copy Paster
        Please visit http://agniveer.com/1685/kaba-or-idol-worship/ and then we will laugh together. BTW I know Brother Indian Agnostic has already made you cry through his mind blowing reply! Hope you are not laughing now, in case you are, you need medical treatment instead of replies. Please let us know your current status.

        all the best

      • GRAVE CONTRADICTIONS IN KORAN

        Koran says ALEXANDER THE GREAT is muslim when everbody knows he is Roman or Greek Pagan, Koran says Mary mother of Jesus is sister of Moses, it also says that Wine is handiwork of Satan but Muslim Heaven is overflowing with it, in many suras Allah call himself WE, US OUR etc, which means allah is not one god but something like Trinity etc, Allah Talah contadicts himself in many places.

        THIS IS IMPORTANT. MUSLIM MULLAHS AND IMAMS KNOW OF ALL THE BELOW CONTRADICTIONS THAT SCREAM THE QUR’AN/KORAN IS FALSE. 100 percent accuracy is expected by the Living God. This presented them with grave theological problems. Muhammad saying to read and believe the Christian Gospels and Jewish Torah; yet the Qur’an contradicts and makes stupid errors vis-a-vis these earlier holy documents.

        Their answer–tell the gullible Muslims, that it is the Christian Gospels and Jewish Torah that were changed and not the Qur’an…

        Muhammad probably never knew the true name of Christian/Jewish God:

        Here are just a few notable errors in the Qur’an:

        – Consider the change of amount of days creation took, first from 6 days (Suras 7:54, 10:3, 11:7, and 25:59) and then it gets changed to 8 days (Suras 41:9-12). Is someone not playing with a full deck?

        – Wine: Good or bad? Suras 5:90 and 2:219 – Strong drink and … are only an infamy of Satan’s handiwork. . Suras 47:15, and 83:22, 25 – Yet on the other hand in Paradise are rivers of wine. How does Satan’s handiwork get into Paradise?

        – Sura 18:85,86, says that Alexander the Great (Zul-qarinain) followed the setting sun and found that it went down into the waters of a muddy spring. Sura 18:89-98 says the Greek Alexander the Great was a Muslim and worshipped Allah. Actually, Alexander the Great died very young and was by no means a Muslim. Alexander the Great lived from 356 – 323 B.C. (Before Jesus). He was 33 years old when he died. Muhammad and Islam did not come along till 610 A.D. (after Jesus), when Muhammad began preaching Allah and his new religion in Mecca. This was over 900 years after Alexander the Great died. Yusuf Ali and the Concise Dictionary of Islam confirm that Zul-qarinain in the Quran is Alexander the Great.

        To make things far worse. In the Qur’an where Allah speaks, he says “We”, “Us”, Our” over 100 times!… Showing again and again that God is not a single person, but several persons in one divine being something like Trinity:

        – In Suras 6:14, 6:163 and 39:12 we are told that Muhammad (born 570 years after Jesus) was the first to bow down to Allah; making him the first Muslim. But wait, yet eralier in Qur’an passages weren’t we already told in that Abraham, his sons and Jacob were former Muslims (Sura 2:132), and that all the earlier prophets (Sura 28:52-53), and Jesus’ Jewish disciples (Sura 3:52) were also Allah believing Muslims?.

        – In Sura 96:1-2 we read that God made man from a blood clot. But in Sura 21:30 it says man was made from water. And Sura 15:26 says man was made from clay.

        – What about Noah’s (Nuh) son? According to Sura 21:76, Noah and his family is saved from the flood, and Suras 29:15 and 37:76-77 confirms that his seed survived. But Sura 11:42-43 reports that Noah’s son drowns.

        – Jesus taught people even in his “old age”. (Sura 5:110). Actually Jesus ascended into Heaven while in His early 30’s.

        – Heaven and Earth created? Sura 2:29 says first earth and then heaven was created. But wait, Suras 79:27-30 indicate, first heaven was created, and after that earth?.

        – To Intercede or Not To Intercede? The Qur’an makes contradictory statements about whether on the Day of Judgment intercession will be possible. No: in Suras: 2:122-123, 254; 6:51; 82:18-19; etc. Yes: in Suras: 20:109; 34:23; 43:86; 53:26; etc. Typically, with Qur’an errors; each position can be further supported/abrogated by a later Hadith.

        – Does Allah forgive shirk? Shirk can encompass any object that a person may hold in regard higher than Allah. It is the most severe of sins and will not be forgiven. But the author of the Qur’an seems unable to decide if Allah will ever forgive it or not. No in Suras 4:48 and 4:116; and Yes in Suras 4:153, 25:68-71. Another contradiction: According to Sura 6:76-78 Abraham committed this sin of polytheism as he takes moon, sun, stars to be his Lord. Yet Muslims believe that all prophets are without any sin and other contradiction is Masjids are filled with these same moon and stars symbols.

        – Allah can have a son. (Sura 39:4). Allah can’t have a son. (Sura 6:101, and 25:2).

        – In Sura 19:19-22, the human Mary was told she would have an “immaculate conception,” or be impregnated by Allah. Yet, Sura 6:100-101 denies that Allah could have a son or daughter through mortals.

        – Sura 7:59 and 7:136 say Noah’s flood took place in Moses’ day. Did anyone tell Moses that?

        – Pharaoh drowned. (Sura 17:103, 28:40, 43:55). Pharaoh did not drown. (Sura 10:92).

        – Sura 20:83–89 tells us that a Samaritan (Samiri) made the golden calf for Israel while Moses was receiving the law. There are two problems with this: One, the Bible says it was Aaron (Exodus 32:1–4), and two, Samaritans didn’t exist yet until after 870 BC (1 Kings 16:24). Samaria was founded by King Omri in about 870 B.C. (see 1 Kings 16:24). But “the Samaritans” as a distinct people only emerged after the exile of the Northern kingdom of Israel and the resettlement of the area under king Sargon II in after 722 B.C. The Exodus happened much earlier in about 1300-1400 BC.

        – Sura 6:74, says Abraham father’s name was Azar. The Bible says it was Terah (Genesis 11:27). How can Muhammad claim he verified the Torah which came first as true, yet differ with the facts in the Torah?

        – Paradise has one garden. (Sura 39:73, 41:30, 57:21, 79:41). Paradise has many gardens. (Sura 18:31, 22:23, 35:33, 78:32).

        – Islam says it was Ishmael that was nearly sacrificed on the mountain rather than Isaac as both the Torah and Christian Gospels say. Islam says that Hagar was the legitimate wife (and not a concubine) of Abraham, rather than Sarah; so Ishmael was the heir of Abraham. But wait! Muhammad had already attested to the Bible and Torah as being correct. Then why these huge errors? Of note: After Muhammad’s death, the Meccans (Waraquah) changed the name Isaac in Suras 2:125 and 127 for the name Ishmael and invented the story about Abraham taking Ishmael to their black rock in Mecca, so that pilgrims would continue to visit Mecca.

        – Even the name for Jesus in the Qur’an is incorrect. The name for Jesus in the Qur’an is given as “Issa.” Issa is the Arabic equivalent of Esau, the name for the twin brother of Jacob. The correct Arabic name for Jesus would be Yeshua or Yeshuwa.

        – The Qur’an says the Kabah in Mecca was build by Adam and rebuilt by Abraham. Actually it was was built by pagan Meccans to worship a black rock that fell out of the sky. Abraham never lived in Mecca.
        Here are two “beauties”:

        The Qur’an also incorrectly says in Sura 105:3-4 that Abrah’s army was defeated by birds dropping stones on them. History (Guillame, Islam, pgs.21ff) says Abrah’s army withdrew after smallpox broke out. The Qur’an also says; the Ka’bah (aka Kaba) was build by Adam and rebuilt by Abraham. The truth is the Ka’bah was built by pagan Meccans to worship a black rock that fell out of the sky. Pieces of this meteorite are still there today. Abraham never lived in Mecca. Abraham lived in Hebron, Israel.

        – Sura 9:10 says Zakarias was mute for only 3 days. The Bible says Zacharias, the father of John the Baptist, was made mute because of his unbelief concerning Gabriel’s prophecy of John’s birth. He would remain mute until the baby was born (Luke 1:20), which is roughly nine months.

        – In Sura 2:249 Muhammad confuses the persons of Saul (Talut) and Gideon. See: Judges 7:4-7

        – The Koran confused the sister of Moses by implication (Miriam) with Mary, the mother of Jesus 3 times. These two women actually lived about 1500 years apart. The entire Chapter 19 is devoted to Mary (Maryam) the mother of Jesus in the Qur’an. Sura 19:28, “O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not a man of evil, nor thy mother a woman unchaste!” Sura 66.12 calls Mary ‘daughter of lmran”. lmran is the Arabic form of the Hebrew Amram mentioned in Numbers 26.59 as the father of “Aaron, Moses and Miriam.” The title “sister of Aaron” is given to Miriam in Exodus 15.20. Sura 3.35-36, The wife of Amram said, “My Lord, I have dedicated (the baby) in my belly to You, totally, so accept from me. You are Hearer, Omniscient.”

        – How many angels were talking to Mary? When the Qur’an speaks about the annunciation of the birth of Jesus to the virgin Mary, Sura 3:42,45 speaks about angels (plural) while it is only one in Sura 19:17-21. The Christian Bible clearly indicated one angel; “In the sixth month, the angel Gabriel was sent by God to a town in Galilee called Nazareth,” Luke 1:26

        – Do you remember the evil Persian Haman who conspired to kill all the Jews during the time of Esther in the Babylonian captivity (about 500 BC). In the Koran, Muhammad incorrectly taught that this wicked man Haman was the prime minister of the Egyptian Pharaoh (Firon) in Moses’ time (1450 BC). See Suras 28:4-6, 28:38, 29:39, 40:23-24,and 40:36-37. Throughout the Qur’an–Nimrod and Abraham, Haman and Moses, Mary and Aaron, the tower of Babel (2500 BC) and Pharaoh were all pictured as living and working together. Moses and the flood are also incorrectly found together. Muhammad thought these all happened at the same time. Muhammad was always mixing people together in the Qur’an who did not live at the same time. See Suras 21:51-76; and 29:15-16.

        – Sura 14:37, says Abraham lived in the valley of Mecca (Muslim Sacred House). The Bible says he lived in Hebron, Israel. (Genesis 13:18, 23:2, 35:27)

        – Sura 9:30 mistakenly claims that the Jews believed that Ezra was the Son of God, the Messiah, just as Christians claim for Jesus. No Jews have ever believed this.

        – Sura 5:72, The Quran teaches that Jesus is not the Messiah. The Holy Injeel says He is.
        Muhammad never understood the Christian Trinity (Father / Son / Holy Spirit):

        – Sura 28:8-9, says is was Pharaoh’s wife who adopted Moses. The Bible says it was Pharaoh’s daughter in Exodus 2:5-10.

        Other notable errors in the Qur’an:
        Flip Flops: The origin of calamity? Is the evil in our life from Satan [Sura 38:41]; Ourselves [Sura 4:79]; or Allah [Sura 4:78]? Can slander of chaste women be forgiven? Yes [Sura 24:5], No [Sura 24:23].
        Abrogation? “The words of the Lord are perfect in truth and justice; there is NONE who can change His words” (Sura 6:115). Also see Suras 6:34, 10:64, and 50:28,29. But then Allah (or Muhammad?) sees the need to exchange some of them for “better ones” (Suras 2:106, 16:101). And it is not for ignorant people to question Allah because of such practices! Let us Reason. How can a divine revelation be improved upon? If divine, would it not have been perfect from the start?

        Suras 6:34, 6:115, 10:64 and 50:28,29 clearly says to Muslims, “No change can there be in the words of Allah” and that Allah cannot alter (or abrogate) his words.” So the Torah and Christian Gospels are correct, because Allah did verify this fact — this clearly makes the Muslim Qur’an is false; because it contradicts Allah.

        – Face Mecca while praying. (Sura 2:144). Face Jerusalem while praying. Apparently, Muhammad believed at first that God wanted him to pray facing Jerusalem and he did so for nearly 18 months – at least while he thought the he could convert the Jews to his religion. However, Muhammad preferred to pray towards the Ka’ba in Mecca which, during this point in time, contained 360 idols.

        Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 8, Number 392:
        Narrated Bara’ bin ‘Azib:
        Allah’s Apostle prayed facing Baitul-Maqdis for sixteen or seventeen months but he loved to face the Ka’ba (at Mecca) so Allah revealed: “Verily, We have seen the turning of your face to the heaven!” (2:144) So the Prophet faced the Ka’ba and the fools amongst the people namely “the Jews” said, “What has turned them from their Qibla (Bait-ul-Maqdis) which they formerly observed”” (Allah revealed): “Say: ‘To Allah belongs the East and the West. He guides whom he will to a straight path’.” (2:142) A man prayed with the Prophet (facing the Ka’ba) and went out. He saw some of the Ansar praying the ‘Asr prayer with their faces towards Bait-ul-Maqdis, he said, “I bear witness that I prayed with Allah’s Apostle facing the Ka’ba.” So all the people turned their faces towards the Ka’ba.

        – Did Jesus Die or Not? Sura 3:144 is quite adamant that all messengers died before Muhammad. But then Sura 4:158 claims that Jesus was raised to God (alive?) and 4:157 falsely says Jesus did not die.

        – In Sura 4:157 we read that Jesus certainly did not die, yet in Sura 19:33 we read that not only did he die, but he arose again! 19:33 reads about Jesus: “And peace be upon me the day I was born, the day I die, and the day I get resurrected.”

        – What is the punishment for adultery? Sura 24:2 -Flogging with a 100 stripes (men and women); Sura 4:15 -“confine them to houses until death do claim them (lifelong house arrest – for the women); Sura 4:16 – For men: “If they repent and amend, leave them alone”. Sura 24:2 contradicts both the procedure for women and men in Sura 4:15. And why is the punishment for women and men equal in Sura 24.2 but different in Sura 4:15?

        – In Sura 19:67, “But does not man call to mind that We created him before out of nothing?.” In Sura 15:26, man is created from clay (We created man from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape;).” Since clay is something, we have a contradiction since “nothing” excludes the possibility of “clay.”
        Didn’t Allah have a Basic Education?

        – It just doesn’t add up: Sura 4:11-12 and 4:176 state the Qur’anic inheritance law. When a man dies, and is leaving behind three daughters, his two parents and his wife, they will receive the respective shares of 2/3 for the 3 daughters together, 1/3 for the parents together [both according to verse 4:11] and 1/8 for the wife [4:12] which adds up to more than the available estate. A second example: A man leaves only his mother, his wife and two sisters, then they receive 1/3 [mother, 4:11], 1/4 [wife, 4:12] and 2/3 [the two sisters, 4:176], which again adds up to 15/12 of the available property.

        – Does Allah’s day equal to 1,000 human years (Sura 22:47, 32:5) or 50,000 human years (Sura 70:4)?

        – According to Sura 10:90-92, Pharaoh believed “in the sight of death” and was saved. But Sura 4:18 says that such a thing can’t happen because Pharaoh did not also repent.

        – Will Christians enter Paradise or go to Hell? Suras 2:62 and 5:69 say “Yes” to Paradise. Sura 5:72 (3 verses later) and Sura 3:85 say “No” to Paradise.

        – In Sura 2:234 widows are to keep themselves apart for 4 months and 10 days after their husband’s death. In Sura 2:240 it is one year.

        – YES: Believers, Jews, Sabaeans and Christians – whoever believes in God and the Last Day and does what is right – shall have nothing to fear or regret. Sura 5:69

        – NO: Unbelievers are those that say: “God is the Messiah, the son of Mary.” For the Messiah himself said: “Children of Israel, serve God, my Lord and your Lord.” He that worships other gods besides God, God will deny him Paradise, and the fire shall be his home. None shall help the evil-doers. Sura 5:72

      • Namaste @Ada Tan

        ❰@adatan: The Foundation of Islam, is to believe in one Allah, and to worship Allah alone❱

        Wrong Answer!

        a)Nobody can become a muslim by just accepting allah ..they have to name his partner Muhammad to become Muslims.
        b) They have to send their blessings to Muhammad and his family
        c) No Muslim should love any relative more than Muhammad
        d) And the most devastating fact of Islam is that Allah and Muhammad have a business partnership..they take 1/5th of the booty from loot and plunder campaigns.

        i have mentioned just 4 points ..can you deny any one of these?..or you prefer to start laughing again 🙂

        ❰@adatan: The Ka’abah in Makkah was built by Prophet Adam❱

        Adam was not an African according to the Quran ..so believing in the story of Adam is foolish!

        The first human beings were Africans as per science ..why didn’t Allah know this?

        Theologicaly Adam is a figure that Muhammad borrowed from the Jewish and Biblical tradition..and in their books , the desert house Kaaba is nowhere mentioned ..sorry 🙁

        ❰@adatan: Allah says” Behold! We showed the site to Ibraheem, of the Sacred House saying: “Associate no partners with Me and purify My House for those who compass it round or stand upright in prayers, or bow or prostrate themselves in worship.
        [The Holy Qur’an, Surah 22:26]❱

        a) There’s no proof of the biblical Ibraheem visiting the mecca.The quranic Ibraheem seems to be some other guy about whom nothing is known 🙁

        b) The verses above clearly states that Kaaba is the HOUSE of Allah.I never knew that the All-Powerful God will book a flat on earth

        c) Kaaba belonged to Pagan meccans where lot many tenants used to stay before Allah managed to get rid of the rest of his room mates.The Pagans used to go round the Kaaba which had all the idols before islam .Islam just brought one change ..that of making Allah the sole flat owner of Kaaba.

        d) Before the pagan quraish meccans, the house belonged to Khuzas .Muhammad’s forefather, not surprisingly, fought with the rightful owners and took over the kaaba in a fight!

        So Allah took a long time and a lot of blood to capture Kaaba and throw out the owners of the house ..that later became the house of Allah.

        rather than laughing at the thought of facing such a place , you remain adamant on bowing to a pagan house taken violent by Muhammad and his forefathers !

        Is it UNITY in violent takeovers that you are talking about?..then keep bowing to a place mired with the blood of innocent human beings whose property was plundered to create the house of Allah

        ❰@adatan: If some Muslims live towards the west of the Kaaba they face the east. Similarly if they live towards the east of the Kaaba they face the west.❱

        Had Allah known that the earth is not flat, he would not have suggested such a silly thing.For, any one , standing anywhere in the world is either facing the vast space above or the core of the earth when bending down..only in a flat earth such a silly thing can be practiced..unfortunately as per the quran the earth is flat and hence this primitive practice.

        ❰@adatan: 2. Kaaba is at the Centre of the World Map❱

        This joke has died it’s natural death ..but semi-literate muslims and zakir bhai mbbs keep embarassing themselves with such silly debunked claims

        watch this and get educated
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHQgIKFv0Ac

        so you see , there are 8 such miraculauous places in this world ..start bowing to Rio De Genaro now ! ..who’s laughing now?

        ❰@adatan: 3.Tawaaf around Kaaba for indicating one God❱

        If this was the case , then the pagans used to do the same much before islam ran havoc in their lives..why did you kill them ?

        If going round a structure means belief in one god ..why did these barbarians attack hindus..who go round their temple the same way?

        ❰@adatan: 4. People stood on Kaaba and gave the adhaan❱

        People stand on temple stairs and do bhajan and kirtan ..standing on the kaba (which was a house of many idols with a market place around) is as good as standing inside a temple?

        ❰@adatan: which idol worshipper stands on the idol he worships?❱

        DID ANY MUSLIM STAND ON THE KAABA STONE ? why do you kiss the stone? why don’t you throw away the stone or drown it in the river.

        even the hindus, whom you claim to be idol worshipers, drown their idols in ganesh chaturthi showing that god is not in the idol

        why don;t you pull the stone this time and drown in the arabian sea ?..and if you cannot ..stop saying that you are not an idolater

        Best Regards

      • I am laughing at you now, seriously this answer i was expecting from you.

        Who says todays injeel is the true injeel

        There are sixty-six books of the Bible .lol

        Seriously i can’t believe it, but i can’t stop laughing as well. they dont have anything better to do so keep changing the bible as per their convenience.just like the idol worshipper

        for the you tube video the answer is:-
        every miracle is the miracle of Allah, if Allah orders us to bow Rio De Genaro , we will do that also, but see thats not ordered , there many miracles , and we follow Allah’s command, since its not orderd , i m so sorry mr.indian, i can;t do it.
        You claimed only 8 miracle

        The entire universe is the miracle of Allah.We have been commanded only to prostrate to Allah (lord of universe).

        The Foundation of Islam, is to believe in one Allah, and to worship Allah alone

        The religion of Islam is based on two principles: that we should worship nothing besides Allaah Alone

        Righteous deeds are those which are loved by Allaah and His Messenger, those which are prescribed in Islam and in the Sunnah

        The most concise definition of God in Islam is given in the four verses of Surah Ikhlas which is Chapter 112 of the Qur’an:

        “Say: He is Allah,
        The One and Only.
        “Allah, the Eternal, Absolute.
        “He begets not, nor is He begotten.
        And there is none like unto Him.”
        [Al-Qur’an 112:1-4]

        so to your answer what ever may be \For us we believe\

        Allah Alone we worship and muhammad (SWAS) is Allah’s messenger

        if you all him partner that is your ignorance.

        A muslim be believes Allah Alone we worship and muhammad (SWAS) is Allah’s messenger.

        so you see , i deny -point number A & D.

        a) There’s no proof of the biblical Ibraheem visiting the mecca.The quranic Ibraheem seems to be some other guy about whom nothing is known
        Theologicaly Adam is a figure that Muhammad borrowed from the Jewish and Biblical tradition..and in their books , the desert house Kaaba is nowhere mentioned

        answer: There are sixty-six books of the Bible .lol

        seriously i can’t believe it, but i can’t stop laughing as well. they dont have anything better to do so keep changing the bible as per their convenience.

        After removing the word ” Allah” from the genesis, these so called trinity believers can go down to any level for misguiding people…..

        b) The verses above clearly states that Kaaba is the HOUSE of Allah.I never knew that the All-Powerful God will book a flat on earth.
        Had Allah known that the earth is not flat, he would not have suggested such a silly thing.For, any one , standing anywhere in the world is either facing the vast space above or the core of the earth when bending down..only in a flat earth such a silly thing can be practiced..unfortunately as per the quran the earth is flat and hence this primitive practice.

        The house was chosen by lord of the universe, so Allah’s Commad we have to follow,
        Wether you call it Flat,or whatever i don’t mind.

        As per the quran the earth is sperical in shape, i believe you need to go to Quran classes to make your base right and understand the quran properly. just for the arguemnt sake you are adding baseless and false points, which is not going to help you.

        Pagans were the IDOL worshippers, there were more than 300 idols inside the Kaaba, and that had to be freed , and by the grace of Allah The house was frees by all the Idols.

        All the Idols were destroyed and that is how it was freed , yes , the war had to take place between the satan worshippers and One God worshipper.

        By the grace of Allah Believers Won the War.

        So you see if you call it @ the cost of Blood and then yes,

        People stand on temple stairs and do bhajan and kirtan ..standing on the kaba (which was a house of many idols with a market place around) is as good as standing inside a temple?

        Three words- Eh eh eh ,i don’t think so this was needed, didn’t make any sense.lol

        even the hindus, whom you claim to be idol worshipers, drown their idols in ganesh chaturthi showing that god is not in the idol

        Again. Eh eh eh LOL, but still would like to spend their pockets to purchase the Idols

        why do you kiss the stone?

        Kissing is not the Act Of worshipping.
        Because Muslims kiss that stone, some observers hastily conclude that Muslims worship it. A kiss, however, is not an act of worship unless it is accompanied by an intention to worship. If you kiss your child, for instance, that does not mean you worship your child.
        Some may find it strange that Muslims should treat a stone with respect. But this is not just any old stone. It is an item out of paradise.
        The act of fixing a stone to mark a place of worship is as old as history. In the Bible we are told that Jacob, on whom be peace, had fixed a stone at a place where he saw a vision. He poured oil on it and called it Bethel meaning ‘house of God’ (see Genesis 28:18). He did this again upon God’s instruction (see Genesis 35:1, 14, 15). No one should understand from this that God instructed Jacob to worship the stone.

        Got it dude……

        Now a piece of advice,

        Since i dont have so much time to spend on internet, there are so many bunch of you, i just can pray to Allah to give you hidayah, so yu pray to just one true Master of the universe.

        anyways i am sure you agree with all my answer ,

        but i am sure you will reply to show the world that you dont agree with my answer and again you will come up with some rebuttles just as you replied before with no sense at all. so you do what you want to do,

        But i am happy i clarified all your doubts.

        i am sure you agree with all my points but , you will still reply, becuz you want show the world that see i don’t agree with the truth.

        As Quran ” Truth Lies Clear out of error”

        Difference between you and us is a thin line, you believe in vedas but don’t want to follow it, as it clearly mentions to pray one true GOD,

        but you guys created 330 millions of idols to worship them, so your materialistic business may go on
        To tell you,creator has never commanded to worship idols.

        So what ever you say, my answer is complete for you, to agree or to disagree is your personel point of view,

        I Cant Force you to accept Truth, it is your choice , your decision.

        If they follow the vedas, the book which was given to sabeans by Allah, at the time of Noah alai Salaam to worship one true Allah

        and if they succeed in doing so , then insh-allah we all will be praying to ONE TRUE GOD.

        All the Best.

        last but not the least:-

        Whomever Allah guides, no one can misguide, and whomever Allah misguides, no one can guide.”

        Please keep these words in mind,

        Allah says in Quran”And if, as is sure, there comes to you guidance from Me, whomsoever follows my guidance, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. But those, who reject Faith and belie our Signs, they shall be companions of Fire, They shall abide therein.” (2:38-39, Yusuf Ali)

        “Say, ‘The Truth is from your Lord’: Let him who will, believe; and let him who will, reject…” (18:29, Yusuf Ali)

        So the Choice is your’s!!

        NOTE: if you need any more clarification kindly mail me , as i don’t have so much time to spend on the net,

        my email is: [email protected]

        Thanks

      • Namaste @Adatan

        i am sorry to say ..your escapist argument-void response doesn’t merit a counter response.

        I leave it to the rational reader to choose between by argument and your excuse

        best regards

      • Ada Tan it can be easily proven that Allah is not creator of this universe because allah himself do not know that creation took 6 days or 7 days see the contradiction in Koran

        Consider the change of amount of days creation took, first from 6 days (Suras 7:54, 10:3, 11:7, and 25:59) and then it gets changed to 8 days (Suras 41:9-12). Is someone not playing with a full deck?

        Then Allah is confused from what material he has created Man Clay, blood clot or water see this suras

        In Sura 96:1-2 we read that God made man from a blood clot. But in Sura 21:30 it says man was made from water. And Sura 15:26 says man was made from clay.

        THIS VERSE ITSELF SHOWS ALLAH IS NOT THE CREATOR OF THIS UNIVERSE IF HE REALLY WAS THE CREATOR HE WOULD HAVE KNOWN HOW LONG IT TOOK HIM TO MAKE THIS UNIVERSE AND FROM WHAT MATERIAL WAS MAN CREATED.

      • Dear Tanada

        Are you seriously trying to defend Islam or instead trying to make mockery of Islam in garb of defending it? While we do promote frank discussions and debates, we are strongly against such attempts to pull legs of any religion by pretending to be a protagonist.

        Each of your point is extremely derogatory to Islam and attempts to portray Islam as a religion exclusively of mentally challenged people. Whosoever you are, kindly talk straight instead of using such false ploys of being a Muslim.

        Please note that Agniveer is NOT an anti-Muslim site. We have greatest affection for our Muslim brothers and sisters despite differences in viewpoints. And we shall strongly condemn any spurious means to humiliate them in the way you are doing by acting as if you are their defender.

        Please reveal your real standpoint and talk in straight language instead. One should never make fun or ridicule anyone in such a manner.

      • @ Vajra: eh eh eh , no i don’t need any napkin, lol lol,lol,lol

        See i really don’t have so much time to spend on the net, so i have three words for, God bless you, and yes after winning the debate from mr. indian, i dont need any congratualtions.

        Becuz my duty was only to remove the misconceptions which some people have, \

        anyways,

        since i dont have enuf time on the net, incase if you and anyother people on this site has any questions on islam, can email me :-
        [email protected]

        Thanks and you are most welcome( for the thank you you just said it to me in your heart.

        but i am sure you will reply, that i did not say thank you i abused you,this will only write to show the world and we accept the truth,

        anyways all the best and do write to me, inshallah i will clarify all your doubts

      • //my duty was only to remove the misconceptions which some people have//

        you first duty is towards removing your OWN misconceptions first and then think about removing those of others.

        since you don’t understand this simple prerequisite ..you are damaging your own and others’ faculties of reason and logic

        that’s sad ..hope the right path finds you though you are not looking foward it
        Regards and good luck

      • Thanks Indian,

        I also hope the same for you,

        Lets hope the truth comes to you soon with all good.
        regards

        bye

      • Dear Indian Agnostic,

        Ada Tan is an Islam-basher pretending to defend Islam and have fun. Kindly do not take him/her seriously. Despite our differences with prevalent Islamic ideology, we should not allow anyone to humiliate our Muslim family members in such a manner. Difference in viewpoint should not transform into hatred or ridicule. Let us not encourage such below-the-belt methods of winning debates.

        ALL MUSLIM BROTHERS AND SISTERS
        We request our Muslim brothers and sisters to share their viewpoints. We are fully with them in thwarting any such attempts to denigrate Islam in manner displayed by Ada Tan. But if intellectual Muslims do not take proactive steps, it would be difficult to control such attempts.

        Admin

      • Brother Indian Agnostic
        I think Admin suggested us not to take Adatan (habitual) copy pasters seriously who come with maligned intentions for Islam but promote themselves as its defenders. Zakir Bhai MBBS and its followers fall in this category. Because if we seriously reply them, they will run away beating their chest that they won and they will not answer further as they dont have enough time to spend on net!

        So I feel Admin intended about below the belt replies of Adatan (who want to degrade true Islam of true Quran of true Muhammad by projecting false Islam of false Quran of false Muhammad with his/her stupid logic) when we get involved with him/her in a full fledged discussion. So lets avoid discussing with such habitual copy pasters who have ill intentions towards true Muhammad!

      • @Indian Agnostic

        I was referring to Ada Tan and not you in my comment.

        I replied to you only because Ada Tan was using your comments to reply back with even more stupid ways of insulting Islam by pretending to be its defender.

        Just review the reply of Ada Tan to your comments and tell us if you can seriously believe that any genuine defender of any ideology can use such crazy arguments. That is why we have reasons to believe that Ada Tan is actually trying to malign Islam by pretending to praise it.

        There is absolutely nothing against your comments.

        I hope I am clearer now.
        Admin

      • @Agniveer Admin bro!

        my bad! actually i read only a part and not the whole ..i stand corrected

        was parallely watching the biggest scandal unfolding on twitter but not at all reported in the mainstream indian media !

        that of the alleged tapes of barkha dutt and vir sanghvi on 2G scam!!! ..i don’t know where the country is headed 🙁

      • Hi Agniveer,

        I did not have time to reply , but only for you these last words,

        After explaining everything abt islam and removing the misconceptions which people had abt islam and kaaba i am sipping cup of tea at ease.

        My motto to come on this site was only to remove the misconception what people had abt islam.

        Now, my degrading and saying bad things abt me, is not going to affect me at all.

        wether you call me crazy or insane thats aboslutely OK,

        My job/duty was to remove misconceptions abt islam , which i did very well.

        THATS WHY YOU ‘LL ARE CALLING DEGRADING ME, BECUZ YOU HAVE NO ANSWER!!!

        Since you all accepted that islam is true religion.

        I know Truth hurts, but you can’t run away from the truth. thats why, you felt a bit hurt with my perfect replies.

        I hope you found all my reply to Mr. indian a SO perfect answer for all his queries,
        that is why you are a bit hurt.

        As i told in my comment everything and i m not going to repeat all.If you are sensible enuf to read it and accept it.

        Before going, you are most welcome, to, thank me.

        Secondly , i am happy with what ‘vajra’ said” true Islam of true Quran of true Muhammad”

        Thanks for accepting :true Islam of true Quran of true Muhammad”

        Lastly,\

        If all the people on this site , really believe in vedas,

        just one last word,

        If you really believe in vedas , then just stop bowing in front of 330 million idols and baba’s and saints, and etc…

        You will become a true Vedantic.

        Just by arguing and maliging other people wont help you,
        and contradicting with your own vedas , thats not going to help you either, please help your self agniveer.

        By creating such hatred sites is not going to help you at all.

        On one hand you say people shud believe in vedas on the other side, you also indirectly teaching them idol worshipping.

        My full sympathy to hindoo brother and sister who are getting mind controlled by you. Alas!

        In the vedas:

        He is One and only One, Sustains entire universe, Omnipresent, Formless, All-Powerful, Perfect, Omniscient, Unborn, Eternal and supports us always.

        He alone should be worshipped. (Yajurveda 40.8)

        ”So if you really believe in this, then stop the idol worshipping!

        I believe in what the above statement says and i follow it , becuz i believe in one true GOD, and i do not form any images of GOD.

        Can you do that? no you cant,

        then what will happen to all the 330 million idols?

        if you are a true vedantic. then do it!!

        and again:

        So what ever you say, my answer is complete for you, to agree or to disagree is your personel point of view,

        Cant Force you to accept Truth, it is your choice , your decision.

        ———————————————————————————————————

        Now you can say whatever you want abt me , you have my full freedom.

        now that i have completed my duty, you are obviously going to talk something against me becuz its very natural with you, as i have seen your site, you accept defeat this way only, by degrading the opposite person.

        so thats fine with me, if you are Comfortable doing so,then do it.

        but i will pray for you, that you get hidayah.

        Thanks
        Bye

      • Dear Adatan,

        Agniveer is right. By putting such childish arguments you are actually insulting Islam. Did you ever study Holy Quran and life of our beloved Prophet (pbuh)? The greatest damage to Islam has been done by uneducated people like you who present Islam as a blind dogma without scope for any reason. For Allah’s sake, stop your rant and instead try to understand Islam properly. Splitting of moon is allegorical representation. Allah never shows this kind of miracles. Fanatics have misrepresented Islam and written all wrong translations. People like you are brainwashed. Stop seeing Islam from eyes of Talibani Mullahs and Hadiths. And please do not try to defend Islam without knowing anything about it. You people are greatest enemy of Islam.

        Islam means peace and submission. People like you present opposite picture. Heaven and Hell are symbolic. And Quran does not say rebirth does not happen.

        Agniveer team – please do not look at Quran from angle of illiterate people and Hadiths. I agree with many things you have written but out of hatred with fanatics you are wrong to reject everything. Quran says that even non-believers in Islam will go Heaven if they are good. When it says that non-Muslim will go to Hell it only means those people who are bad and hate other people. Because Muslim means one living in peace. Unfortunately these violent people dominate Islam today. But there are good Muslims also and do not hate them. You only say Ashfaqullah was Muslim. He died with Quran in his neck. Please do not mistrust these good Muslims who are in many number but dominated by illiterate people who malign Islam.
        True Mujahid

      • Brother True Mujahid
        After so many months (probably first time in the history of Agniveer), we have come across a True Muslim representing true Islam. Believe us Brother, we love our true Muslim Brothers and sisters no less than that of our own. Whatever you wrote, we completely agree with that. We too are against the denigration of great Muhammad (pbuh) by later day Mullahs inspired by Jihadi mentality, who use false Hadith to project prophet as mass murderer, pervert and what not.

        We know that true Muslims are still there but they are oppressed by fanatics like Zakir Naik who openly threaten people saying death penalty for apostates. So its time for true Muslims to come forth and condemn such terrorists. May Allah/Eeshvar give strength to true Muslims (who surrender to almighty) to spread true Islam (peace).