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We, however, believe that most of these texts have been wrongly translated, misinterpreted, misquoted or even have been tampered with and interpolated to suit the selfish designs of proponents of Islam after Muhammad. Thus, we believe that original Islam and original Quran of Muhammad are totally different from what have been propagated by his followers in name of Islam. There are few minority groups in Muslims whose scholars subscribe to our views and interpret/translate Islamic texts differently or even refuse to consider the available Quran and Hadiths as authentic. But these scholars themselves are considered Kafirs and are condemned by a dominant elite group of Islam. Thus, when we refer to Islam, we actually imply these dominant elites of Islam and not Muslims or all Islamic scholars in general.
Wherever we critically evaluate Muhammad, we imply the fictitious Muhammad propagated by these false texts or their wrong translations and not the original Muhammad. We have high regard for original Muhammad who stood for non-violence and tolerance. Similarly, when we analyze Islamic texts, we refer to these questionable translations/versions and NOT original texts.
Further, we have a sense of the highest level of brotherhood for Muslims in general. Wherever we use the word Muslim in a critical manner, it refers to false representatives of Islam and not Muslims in general. Readers are requested to keep this in mind to understand the correct perspective of such posts on this website.
Nowhere should they assume the words like Islam, Quran, Prophet etc. to be referring to original noble entities, unless it has been referred in a positive light. We restrict ourselves only to notions prevalent in minds of fanatics and those without reason.
superb guys!!!!!! wonderful!!!!!
Tom Alterji i’m a great fan of yours since the days of SHAKTIMAAN……. so good to see u again….
Thank you Agniveer and Tom Alter Ji!!
Very good work ! Keep rocking agniveer team
I will build Gaushala whenever i would have sufficient money.
Kushal Aarya jee,
Namaste. Hats off to you for your desire to do good for the noble cause of protecting cows. Perhaps it will take some time before you build gaushalas, but you can do more right now. Spread this message of ‘No beef in the Vedas’ and contact the people in your surrounding such as in the office, shopping complexes, at home, in the club, in the schools etc. Moreover, I would suggest you to make gaushala by accepting contributions from others as well. It will involve those contributing and spread the message. In this way you may get some good devoted persons for the cause which will strenghthen the ‘Cow protection’ movement. Also try to introduce others to this site so that others be enlighten and thus we can accelerate this spreading the Vedic movement.
Jay Vedic Dharma
Bull shit ….ur religion has crore gods, gomatha, kalimatha, patharmatha, nagmatha, bandar, chuva etc. Haha
Camel shit, ur religion has 72 sects with a rapist, megalomaniac, rapist, looter, lecher, pedophile prophet. Ha ha ha
dont b like piggies, have a health talk or debate, we respect vedas and at the same time we dont bear insulting of vedas, if u dare then i am ready to face u for a peace ful debate shall u ???? can………… [email protected]
@fake shivbhagat:
let discuss about islam and mohmmad. my email is:
[email protected]
Below is what I had sent to Mr Shivbhagat, so far he has not replied, I am awaiting a reply from Mr Shivbhagat.
—– Forwarded Message —–
From: Subi K
To: “[email protected]”
Sent: Monday, 19 November 2012 9:59 PM
Subject: Islam & mU Ham Mad
Hello Shivbhagat,
My Name is Subin. I know your real name is not Shivbhagat but that does not matter.
You posted a comment on one of the sites I was visiting inviting for a discussion on islam..
I hope we have a meaningful and learning time while discussing islam and muhammad.
I hope you would have by now understood (through reading the subject line) that I am of strong opinion that islam is one of the most dangerous, anti humanity barbaric cult and muhammad was one of the worst humans who ever lived on this earth.
I invite you to have a discussion giving you an excellent opportunity to make me convinced that islam is real knowledge and muhammad was a real prophet.
Let me introduce myself to you for this discussion. I am from a communist background family but over the period of time through challenging my own beliefs and learning I have turned out to be a rationalist.
For last couple of years I have read many articles/books/opinions on islam and muhammad to reach to the conclusion that its a real evil.
Hope you will clarify my doubts and we shall lead to a learning experience.
Regards,
Subi
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Sent via Epic Browser
Khader…..before you say anything just think…in your religion also there are 1 lac 24 thousand awtars/paigambars…..on which you have to bring faith…..but the difference in you and ours is that you only say and we respect all………so who is bull’s shit ??????? REMBER WE ARE NOT FROM PAIGAMBARS……….BUT PAIGAMBARS ARE FROM US………………….SO AGAIN WHO IS BULL SHIT……????????
then why dont u debate with dr zakir naik….
exchange ur feelings in peaceful ways brothers…….
So, what is your problem Khadeer. I may believe in N number of gods. That is my problem. You may believe in One. It is your problem. Is there any scientific evidence that only one god exists. No. I respect your views. You don’t. For your information Hinduism too believes in one God i.e Nirgun Brahman. But he being God can take any shape i.e Sagun Brahman. In lighter note my God is powerful to take any birth or shape. Yours is not. This not to deride you. If you dont believe in idol worship will you spit on the photograph of your wife or child. You will not. You love them. That is idol worship.
So learn to respect other paths of truth. Our destination is same but the travel mode is different.
@ Khadeer – You 2 eyeys,2 hands,2 legs,10 nails,and 1 head ETC.. WHY ?
dhanya ho…
Dr Mallesh, Namaste!
I hope you would suggest vegetarian food to improve your patients’ health.
agniveer this is just brilliant, spreading of vedic knowledge is one of the topmost duties of all humans, you have my full support
i read many hindu articles saying the linga is penis an organ of sexual reproduction, which has been workship by we hindus, is it true ????? agniveer soldiers give details explanation coz i am so cnfused …………………..
I will narrate a real story on this. I was standing in a queue for railway reservation. A boy (who was presumably little read) turned up to me to check whether he had filled up the form correctly or not. One of the columns was “LINGA” (asking about gender). The boy had understood it as if the form asked – whether or not he had penis. Precisely this is the state of popular understanding. “LINGA” is a Hindi as well as a Sanskrit word, but in both languages it has different meanings. “LIYATE ITI LINGAM” is a description in Shiv Puran thereby conveying that the object in which the subject of our attention is “LEEN” is LINGAM. The only Sanskrit word for penis is UPASTHA. The other meaning of ling is Gender. Now exercise your own wisdom further.
Thanks all members of Agniveer team , for your gread work for mankinds
Suryakant Mishra
i read many hindu articles saying the linga is penis an organ of sexual reproduction, which has been workship by we hindus, is it true ????? agniveer soldiers give details explanation coz i am so cnfused …………………..
@shivbhagat
____________penis an organ of sexual reproduction, which has been workship by we hindus____
This is a Vedic website and such worship not mentioned in Veda. Hindu worship ignorantly linga as symbol of lord Shiva according to them.
The gurus of Swami Dayananda Saraswati are “DANDI SANYASIS” and descendant disciples of Jagadguru Shankaracharya. These SANYASIS carry a stick like object in their hand which is called by them as”Vishnu LINGA”. Read on that. Every practice in Hindu society is strictly Vedic, the need is to properly and honestly understand it. Certain things like animal sacrifice are ashuddhis which need tone cleaned up.
@Bharat
Who said that Gurus of Swami Dayanand were disciples of Shankaracharya.Guruvar Virjanand Dandi did not believe in any Shankaracharya because of his false concepts.
[…] and taken for what its worth. as for more Authoritative text, none support killing of animals. No Beef in Vedas – 20 Min Crash Course Vegetarianism and The Vedas __________________ Dharma Eva Hato Hanti Dharmo Rakshati […]
Very good work by Agniveer. Thank you very much.
My Sincere thanks to Agniveer team and Tom Alter Ji for the great work you have put in. May Iswara help on the path of dharma.
Gau Samprokshan is a commendable work. I’d like to contribute to the cause. Please gimme some details.
Please contact us through http://agniveer.com/contact/
Thanks
Aadarniya Agniveer ji , i have a question regarding Rigvedadibhashya bhumika. Sanskrit sentences were written by dayanand ji.
Who Translated the sanskrit sentences into bhasha(hindi). Was this done by rishi Dayanand ji or other pundits ?
Other pundits
This is very imp for our health point of view and loot of MNCs in agriculture sector!
people who are attached with villages should listen this video of rajiv dixit and tell farmers that not to use chemical fertilizers ,pesticides and instead use everything organic .From this we can save costly expenditure on these dangerous chemicals,save land and people from diseases,increase productivity and save country wealth.And when organic farming is implemented,then cow will be automatically very useful and thus we can save cows.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG48bzamPWk
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“NO BEEF IN VADAS” – Very nice and interesting presentation. Thanks for such a program.
I have some doubt of my own. I would be grateful, if you please care to clarify the following points:
1. In this program, one SLOKA says “We are to Destroy those, who eat cooked and uncooked meat”. So we are supposed to destroy/kill all curnivores such as tigers, lions, bears, snakes, foxes, wolves so many others. We should kill also all the non-vegiterian peoples around us. And, this is one of the ‘KARTYABYA’s, we (Hindus)are supposed to follow!!
2. We are against killing of Cows, because, cows give us milk, plow our land, draw our carts, etc. – is the statement right? OR it should be expressed in this way, “We are against killing of cows, because, wecan STEAL milks from them without resistance, we can MAKE THEM plow our land or draw our carts (with lashes, most of the time), in short, we can get an excellent SLAVE in a LIVING COW.”
I am not a learned person in SHASHTRAS. But the Shashtras ahve been created by human, keeping human welfare in mind. Also sometimes welfare for a “Special Group” of humen. We are talking Big to save cows. So big that we will not hesitate to destroy forests to provide feeding ground for cows, destroying forest dwellers as well. I, am sorry to say, but this is not my idea of Hinduism.
My views on your doubts:
1. Vedas clearly assert non-violence for all except terrorists and hardcore criminals. So when it says destroy those who eat cooked or uncooked meat, it means we should promote the ideology of non-killing and destroy the tendencies and factors that lead to people killing innocent animals for taste. As for animals, Vedas believe that they do not have intellect like humans to choose what to eat and what not. So Vedic lessons do not apply to them.
2. No. We are against killing of cow because they have a very useful role to play for economical and ecological welfare of society. Domestication of animals is not a sin unless you apply cruelty.
I am yet to know about forest lands or dwellers being destroyed for protecting cows. However bulk of forest lands and forest dwellers in world are being destroyed for meat-production. That is greatest cause of pollution and destruction of natural resources. Second is rampant industrialization. Protection of cows would only lead to enhanced prosperity in most natural manner.
@Raja
Many thanks for your reply. But I have already mentioned that I am not a learned person. I made the comment on what I heard.
According to my small knowledge, it is not always TENDENCY or TASTE, which makes people to eat meat. It is basically circumstance, what prompts the food habit. People are habituated to the food which are available to them. If we destroy the meat eating tendency of Eskimos, they will be starving. If we destroy fish eating tendency of Japanise, they will go hungry. Japanise or Tibetians are Buddhists, and hence they are supposed to be vegiterians, because as far as I know, animal killing is one of the greatest sins in Buddhism. But do you think they will survive without meat of fish? Should we consider them as Degraded Races for this so called unholy (?) meat eating tendency?
For Animals, I don’t know what Vedas are saying, but do you realy think it is lack of intelect, making them to eat meat? Please forgive my ignorance, but I thought that, it is their natural instinct, which made them harbivorus or curnivorus. I thought it is Nature, who made some of them eat meat and some of them plants, and made them accordingly to consume their foods selected by Nature. Please correct me if I am Wrong, as human species, we are also part of that Ecosystem, and we are made to consume both type of foods. Are the Vedas advise us to go against habits of survival, imposed on us by Nature?
For my second point, I never told, domestication is sin. did I? On the contrary, I have told exactly what you have told. It’s only expression. Isn’t it? I have told that “One will see the death of all his relatives” and you are telling that “One will live longer than his relatives”. That’s the difference.
But my point was, we are protecting cow for our own interest, not of cow’s. So much interest that we (Vedas) proclaim death to the fellow human, who harms a cow! We would have no interest in cow welfare, if they are not domesticated.
I am realy astonished on your openion that the forests are/were being…
Dear Mr. Maity,
Namaste to you. I think you are right from your own view point. From your own words, it becomes direct corollary that, different people follow different norms depending on the place & environment. Bharatiya environment as well as socio-economic mosaic of the society does not suit for slaughter, especially, cow slaughter. Perhaps, that is why, ancient learned persons prescribed it, and also kept provision for punishment. What is wrong in it, if anybody prescribes meat eating mandatory for eskimos? I see no wrong! “Destroy” means destruction of slaughtering mentality, not the killing as Veda prohibits violence. You confessed that you are not learned in respect of veda, I am also that. I think, we should not make debate on those subject in which we have little knowledge. Let us make the world peaceful for all innocent beings, not only human being. Sarve bhabantu sukhinah, sarve santu niramayah, sarve bhadrani pashyantu, ma kaschit dukhovak bhabet.
Shirshendu Saha, Nandakumar, Purba Medinipur
I am very happy and proud to see this movie and want very HINDU to know and spread the word about this.
ok i beleive eating or killing any kind of meat is not good, either its beef or pork or chicken….every life is sacred.
beef is eaten all over the world , so you are saying all those are sinners and only we who dont eat meat are true beleivers? yaar is tarah ki batein to islamic scholars bhi kartein hai .
please explain
“”we who dont eat meat are true beleivers””
This is where you Mistake hinduism and you mistake to understand Vedic dharma!
Here being a vedic or being a hindu is not a absolute term!
Meaning we have no defination that you do this you are believer you do that you are not a believer!
no! here we just say just keep testing with your intellect what you do and leave away those things which are wrong and accept those which are true! All peopl whoo keep doing this are believer of vedic releigion!
Please read what is vedic reliegion? and common questions on vedic religion articles on agniveer!
वेदों में भी था बिग बैंग और हिग्स बोसोन का जिक्र
http://www.livehindustan.com/news/desh/national/article1-european-scientist-higs-boson-ved-book-39-39-241271.html
यूरोपीय वैज्ञानिक ने जिंस हिग्स बोसोन से मिलते जुलते जिस कण को खोजने का दावा किया है, उसका एवं बिग बैंग सिद्धांत का सबसे पहला जिंक्र वेदों में आता है।
वैज्ञानिकों ने हिग्स बोसोन को गॉड पार्टिकल अर्थात ब्रह्म कण का नाम दिया है। सबसे प्राचीन वेद ऋगवेद में वर्णित नासद सूक्त में प्राचीन मानव और अंतिरक्ष को समझने की उसकी मूलभूत जिज्ञासा का पता चलता है। नासद सूक्त में कहा गया है कि सृष्टि से पहले कुछ भी नहीं था, न आकाश था, न जमीन और न जल। इस पौराणिक श्लोक में ब्रह्मा की तुलना हिरण्यगर्भ से करते हुए बताया गया है कि सृष्टि से पहले ब्रह्म ही विद्यमान थे और उन्हें से सारी सृष्टि का विकास हुआ है। वेदों और उपनिषदों के बाद आई पुराणों में अंतिरक्ष के सृजन के सिद्धांत से आगे बढ़ते हुए युगों की शुरुआत और उनके खात्मे का जिक्र किया गया। पुराणों में ब्रह्म के एक दिन को चार अरब 32 करोड़ वर्ष के बराबर बताया गया है जो एक महायुग और चार युगों के बराबर होता है। एक महायुग की समाप्ति के बाद प्रलय आती है और समूचा ज्ञान और सभ्यताएं नष्ट हो जाती हैं और एक नई सृष्टि का सृजन होता है।
Jay Ho.. Really very Thankful of you… & i need many Proof of Our Hindu ruital.. Ceremony as when we see a Moovie Like OMG or PK or when we pray in Tample than now many are asking for these Hindu ruital or what need of that… so i can’t explain to them as i do not know than howcan i answer to them?? so plsssss… send me more fact if its depand on science with Hindu Ruital or ceremony… concern… Jay MahaDev!!! if you answer in HINDI than Good.. or any Perfact website of these?? send me.
Great work Agniveer Team. Hats Off to you.
No person can only feed on meat.You need spices and corriander etc which are vegeterian for the meaty meal.Eating meat in excess means everyday can lead to mental and psycological diseases.This is wat happening in western countries.Also in ancient times we used to export many items including vegeterian items to west in exchange of gold and other items.Even now germany exports a lot of vegeterian food from us.
Wonderful video! We need more like this.
very good job ,lot of knowledge on vedas
thank you
agniveer
An excellent video with proofs from the different Vedas dispelling the myth of beef eating and clarifying the true meaning of ‘Medha’.
u must publicly debate with dr zakir naik.
@khadeer
Why do you depend on Zakir Naik to defend Islam. Be independent and defeat these Kufrs. Why you can not be scholar like Zakir naik? As per Quran we Muslim are to Fight against non-believers until they do not accept Islam.
@Khadeer:
When you are arranging debate with zakir naik?
http://satyagni.com/zakir-scared/
Dear brothers,
Pls dont fight with religion.follow religion by heart and do good for evry human being.think hw can we develope our country from corruption
I am an american christian but I do visit India often for my business. Since my childhood, I was more curious to explore the truth. I came across David Frawley website https://vedanet.com/
Here is very good article:
https://vedanet.com/2015/10/22/why-indian-intellectuals-need-to-study-more-vedanta/
I would say that Vedas do not allow to kill any animal for food. There is definitely very high respect for Cow and Bull and even killing cow for any reason is considered crime.
To start with, the Manu-samhita clearly and logically recommends that, “Meat can never be obtained without injury to living creatures, and injury to sentient beings is detrimental to the attainment of heavenly bliss; let him therefore shun the use of meat. Having well considered the disgusting origin of flesh and the cruelty of fettering and slaying corporeal beings, let him entirely abstain from eating flesh.” (Manu-samhita 5.48-49)
However, it is not simply the person who eats the meat that becomes implicated by eating the dead animal, but also those who assist in the process. “He who permits the slaughter of an animal, he who cuts it up, he who kills it, he who buys or sells meat, he who cooks it, he who serves it up, and he who eats it, must all be considered as the slayers of the animal. There is no greater sinner than that man who though not worshiping the gods or the ancestors, seeks to increase the bulk of his own flesh by the flesh of other beings.” (Manu-samhita 5.51-52)
As we get further into the Manu-samhita, there are warnings that become increasingly more serious. For example, “If he has a strong desire (for meat) he may make an animal of clarified butter or one of flour (and eat that); but let him never seek to destroy an animal without a (lawful) reason. As many hairs as the slain beast has, so often indeed will he who killed it without a (lawful) reason suffer a violent death in future births.” (Manu-samhita 5.37-38)
By not killing any living being, one becomes fit for salvation.” (Manu-samhita 6.60)
The earlier texts, such as the Rig-veda (10.87.16), also proclaim the need to give up the eating of slaughtered animals. “One who partakes of human flesh, the flesh of a horse or of another animal, and deprives others of milk by slaughtering cows, O King, if such a fiend does not desist by other means, then you should not hesitate to cut off his head.”
pl check this link for more details:
http://www.stephen-knapp.com/vegetarianism_recommended_in_Vedic_scripture.htm
In his book Animal Liberation, Peter Singer states that the basic principle of equality does not require equal or identical treatment; it requires equal consideration. This is an important distinction when talking about animal rights. People often ask if animals should have rights, and quite simply, the answer is “Yes!”
Animals surely deserve to live their lives free from suffering and exploitation. Jeremy Bentham, the founder of the reforming utilitarian school of moral philosophy, stated that when deciding on a being’s rights, “The question is not ‘Can they reason?’ nor ‘Can they talk?’ but ‘Can they suffer?’”
In that passage, Bentham points to the capacity for suffering as the vital characteristic that gives a being the right to equal consideration. The capacity for suffering is not just another characteristic like the capacity for language or higher mathematics. All animals have the ability to suffer in the same way and to the same degree that humans do. They feel pain, pleasure, fear, frustration, loneliness, and motherly love. Whenever we consider doing something that would interfere with their needs, we are morally obligated to take them into account.
Supporters of animal rights believe that animals have an inherent worth—a value completely separate from their usefulness to humans. We believe that every creature with a will to live has a right to live free from pain and suffering. Animal rights is not just a philosophy—it is a social movement that challenges society’s traditional view that all nonhuman animals exist solely for human use. As PETA founder Ingrid Newkirk has said, “When it comes to pain, love, joy, loneliness, and fear, a rat is a pig is a dog is a boy. Each one values his or her life and fights the knife.”
[…] And don’t start quoting from silly research of DN Jha et al. Read the following before you ejaculate further:http://agniveer.com/no-beef-in-vedas/http://agniveer.com/no-beef-in-vedas-part2/http://agniveer.com/no-beef-in-vedas-film/http://agniveer.com/why-beef-lovers-are-completely-wrong/http://agniveer.com/beef-lover-ripped-apart/ […]