क्या हिन्दू धर्म में बहुविवाह है ?

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हिन्दुत्व पर डा.जाकिर नाइक के इरादों को लेकर प्रकाशित हमारे विश्लेषण के तुरंत बाद कई ज़हर भरे सन्देश आए, साथ ही उनकी किताब “Answers to Non- Muslims’ Common Questions about Islam”  की एक प्रति भी मिली, जो उनके छली तर्कों का एक और बेहतरीन नमूना पेश करती है |  हम उनके भाषणों की झलक भी देख चुके हैं, जिन में वे अपनी किताब का पाठ करते नजर आते हैं|  वैसे इस किताब के कई खंडन पहले ही उपलब्ध हैं |

हिंदुत्व के प्रति मिथ्या अवधारणाओं में बढ़ोतरी करने की उनकी इस स्वयं घोषित शोध की साज़िश से हमें आपत्ति है | मुस्लिमों के लिए लिखे गये उनके लेख में हिंदुत्व की अधिक चर्चा रहती है तथा हिंदुत्व के लेख में इस्लाम का ज्यादा बख़ान होता है  ( देखें FAQ on Hinduism)| मैं समझ सकता हूं कि उस की इस चकराहट का असल तथ्य वर्तमान की राजनितिक, सामाजिक और सांस्कृतिक परिस्थितियां हैं जो ८० करोड़ हिन्दुओं के धर्मान्तरण का आसान आधार उपलब्ध कराती हैं | जिसके लिए डा. जाकिर नाइक द्वारा संचालित इस्लामिक रिसर्च फाउंडेशन और पीस टी.वी प्रयत्नशील हैं और कुछ महीनों पहले ऐलान भी कर चुके हैं कि वे आगामी पांच वर्षों में हिंदुस्तान को दारुल- इस्लाम बनाएंगे|

इसके अलावा, बहुत से भटकों को इस भविष्यवाणी पर विश्वास है कि भारत को पराजित करने पर ही ईसा मसीह फिर से आ पाएंगे और इस दुनिया का अंत होगा, जिस के बाद कयामत के दिन उन्हें जन्नत मिलेगी जहां वो अपनी हूरों के साथ भोग – विलास में हमेशा रहेंगे | संस्कार रहित अविकसित मन और मस्तिष्क के लिए यह प्रलोभन बड़ा ही लुभावना है, जो उनके कुछ सोचने – समझने की क्षमता को भी कुंठित कर देता है | इस लेख में, हम उनके प्रथम प्रश्न – बहुविवाह प्रथा का विश्लेषण करेंगे |

डा. जाकिर नाइक यह दिखाने की कोशिश कर रहे हैं कि हिन्दू धर्म मूलतः ही बहुविवाह वादी है | अपनी किताब के पृष्ठ ४ पर वह कहते हैं –

“इस पृथ्वी पर स्पष्टतः कुरान ही एक मात्र धार्मिक पुस्तक है जो कहती है कि ‘ सिर्फ एक से शादी करो ‘ | कोई और धार्मिक पुस्तक ऐसी नहीं जिसमें पुरुषों को सिर्फ एक ही पत्नी की आज्ञा हो | कुछ अन्य धर्म ग्रंथों में चाहे वो वेद हों, रामायण, महाभारत, गीता, या बाइबिल हो क्या पत्नियों की संख्या पर कोई प्रतिबन्ध है ? इन धर्म ग्रंथों के अनुसार कोई व्यक्ति जितनी चाहे शादियां कर सकता है | यह तो बाद में ही, हिन्दू धर्माचार्यों ने और ईसाई चर्च ने पत्नियों की संख्या को एक तक सीमित किया | कई हिन्दू धार्मिक व्यक्तित्व उनके धर्म ग्रंथों के अनुसार अनेक पत्नियां रखते थे | राम के पिता राजा दशरथ की एक से ज्यादा पत्नियां थीं | कृष्ण की अनेक पत्नियां थीं | ” आगे उन्होंने जनगणना के ऐसे आंकड़े दिए हैं जिनके स्रोत सिर्फ वही जानते हैं और जिनके मुताबिक हिन्दुओं में बहुविवाह अधिक प्रचलित है बजाए मुस्लिमों के |

जाकिर नाइक के इस्लाम में बहुपत्नीत्व के वास्तव में मायने क्या हैं ? पूरी उम्र के दौरान कुल मिलाकर चार बीवियों से शादी करना या बीवियों की कुल संख्या को एक समय में चार तक ही बनाए रखना और उस के लिए पुरानी बीवी / बीवियों को तलाक देते जाना और नई शादियां करते जाना या जिन पर इलहाम हुआ हो उनके लिए ९, ११, १६ या उस से भी ज्यादा बीवियों का खास प्रावधान होना या कम उम्र की बच्चियों तक से शादी करना या फिर ऐसी अमर्यादित संख्या में बांदियाँ रखना – जिन्हें कानूनन बीवियों में शुमार न किया जा सके और जनगणना के साथ भी छलावा किया जा सके ?

हम इस पर चर्चा नहीं करेंगे | यह मुद्दे बहुत अधिक संख्या में लोगों द्वारा जिन में महिला अधिकार संगठन और मुस्लिम भी शामिल हैं, तमाम दुनिया में उठाये जा रहे हैं | इन्टरनेट पर इन सन्दर्भों की लंबी फ़हरिस्त मौजूद है | हमारे लेख का मकसद इस मिथक को नष्ट करना है कि ” हिन्दू धर्म ग्रंथों के अनुसार कोई व्यक्ति जितनी चाहे शादियां कर सकता है | “


१.समग्र वेदों में एक भी मंत्र ऐसा नहीं है, जिस में एक से अधिक पत्नी या पति के समर्थन का ज़रा संकेत भी हो |

आइए, शुरुआत वेदों से करें क्योंकि हिन्दू धर्म में वेदों की मान्यता सर्वोपरि है —-

२. ऋग्वेद के तीनों मंत्र ( १।१२४।७, ४।३।२  तथा  १०।७१।४)   वर्णित करते हैं – ‘ जाया पत्य उशासी सुवासा ‘ अर्थात विद्या विद्वानों के पास उसी प्रकार आती है जैसे एक समर्पित हर्षदायिनी पत्नी सिर्फ अपने पति को ही प्राप्त होती है| ‘ जाया’  तथा ‘ पत्य’  क्रमशः पत्नी तथा पति का अर्थ रखते हैं | यह दोनों शब्द एकवचन में प्रयुक्त हुए हैं, जो सिर्फ एक पति और एक पत्नी के आदर्श रिश्ते को प्रस्तुत करते हैं |

३. ऋग्वेद १। ३ ।३ में परमात्मा को पवित्र और उच्च आचरण वाली समर्पित पत्नी की उपमा दी गई है, जिस में एक पत्नीत्व का आदर्श भी अन्तर्निहित है |

४. ऋग्वेद का मंत्र  १०। १४९। ४ भगवन और भक्त के मध्य प्रेम की तुलना समार्पित पत्नी और पति के प्रेम से करता है | यहां ‘ जाया’ अर्थात पत्नी और ‘ पतिम’ अर्थात पति दोनों ही शब्दों का प्रयोग एकल संख्या में हुआ है, जो स्पष्टतः एक विवाह को सुनिश्चित करता है |

५. ऋग्वेद १०।८५।२० में वधू के लिए निर्देश है कि वह अपने पति के लिए सुख की वृद्धि करे, यहां भी पति और पत्नी दोनों का उल्लेख एकवचन में हुआ है |

६.ऋग्वेद १०।८५।२३ पत्नी और पति को सदैव आत्म- संयम के पालन की शिक्षा देता है | यहां प्रत्यक्षतः दोनों के लिए आत्म- संयम का उल्लेख है और पत्नी और पति दोनों शब्दों का प्रयोग एकल संख्या में हुआ है जो केवल एक विवाह की सिफ़ारिश करता है |

७.विवाह से संबंधित सभी मंत्र द्विवचन सूचक शब्द दंपत्ति को संबोधित करते हैं, जो एक ही पत्नी और एक ही पति के रिश्ते को व्यक्त करता है | जिस के कुछ उदाहरण ऋग्वेद १०।८५।२४, १०।८५।४२ तथा १०।८५।४७ हैं , अथर्ववेद के लगभग सम्पूर्ण १४ वें कांड में विवाह विषयक वर्णन में इसका उपयोग हुआ है | प्रायः मंत्रों में जीवन पर्यंत एकनिष्ठ सम्बन्ध की प्रार्थना की गई है |
कृपया ध्यान दें, संस्कृत में एकवचन और बहुवचन से पृथक द्विवचन का प्रयोग है, ताकि किसी भ्रम की गुंजाइश ना रहे |

८. अथर्ववेद  ७।३६।१ में पति – पत्नी परस्पर कामना करते हैं – ” मुझ को ह्रदय में स्थान दो,जिस से हम दोनों का मन भी सदा साथ रहे | ”

९. अथर्ववेद ७।३८।४ में पत्नी की यह हार्दिक अभिलाषा व्यक्त की गई है कि ” तुम केवल मेरे हो अन्य स्त्रियों की चर्चा भी न करो | ” इससे अधिक बहुपत्नीत्व का निषेध क्या होगा ?

१०. अथर्ववेद ३।३०।२ तथा १४।२।६४ पति और पत्नी को परस्पर समर्पित तथा एकनिष्ठ रहने की हिदायत देते हैं |

११. संभवतः वेदों के ज्ञान प्रदाता परम पिता परमात्मा को भी इस बात का अंदेशा था कि कुछ बन बैठे विशेषज्ञ इस सब की भी अवज्ञा कर के बहुविवाह का औचित्य सिद्ध करने की कोशिश करेंगे, अतः वेदों के कुछ  मंत्रों में बहुविवाह के दुष्परिणामों का वर्णन आया है |

a. ऋग्वेद १०। १०५।८ एक से अधिक पत्नीयों की मौजूदगी को अनेक सांसारिक आपदाओं के सादृश्य कहता है |

b. ऋग्वेद  १०। १०१ ।११  कहता है – दो पत्नियों वाला व्यक्ति उसी प्रकार दोनों तरफ़ से दबाया हुआ विलाप करता है, जैसे रथ हांकते समय उस के अरों से दोनों ओर जकड़ा हुआ घोड़ा हिनहिनाता है |

c. ऋग्वेद १०। १०१ । ११  के अनुसार दो पत्नियां जीवन को निरुदेश्य बना देती हैं |

d. अथर्ववेद ३ । १८।२ में प्रार्थना है –  कोई भी स्त्री सह – पत्नी के भय का कभी सामना न करे |

 

e. वेदों में बहुविवाह का आरोप लगने वाले अक्सर ऋग्वेद के मंत्र ८। १९ ।३६ का सहारा लेते हैं | ऋग्वेद का यह मंत्र ” वधूनाम” तथा “सतपति” शब्दों को समाहित करता है, परन्तु यहां ‘वधू’ से तात्पर्य दुल्हन से न हो कर सुख प्रदान करने के सामर्थ्य से है और “सतपति”  का अर्थ सज्जनों का पालक है जैसे “भूपति” अर्थात पृथ्वी का पालक होता है | जिस सूक्त में यह मंत्र आया है उसके देवता अथवा मूल भाव से भी व्यक्त होता है कि यह परोपकार तथा दान (दान- स्तुति) से संबंधित है | मंत्र का अर्थ है कि ईश्वर सत्य और भलाई की रक्षा करने वालों को विविध सामर्थ्य प्रदान करता है |

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महाभारत में बहुविवाह -

महाभारत काल तक समाज में नैतिक मूल्यों का अत्यंत ह्रास हो चुका था, अतः श्रीकृष्ण के अतिरिक्त महाभारत में ऐसा कोई पात्र नहीं है जिसे आदर्श माना गया हो | अनेक विध ताकतों से श्रीकृष्ण को निशाना बनाकर उनका चरित्र हनन करने के पीछे मूलतः यही कारण है | महाभारत अत्यधिक प्रक्षेपित साहित्य है तथा उसे पूर्णतः प्रमाणिक नहीं माना जा सकता है | मूल ग्रंथ काफ़ी छोटा था जिसमें समय के साथ विस्तार होता गया और बहुत सी चीजें सम्मिलित की जाती रहीं | महाभारत में प्रक्षेपण को रोकने की कोई कारगर विधि नहीं है, जैसी की वेदों में पाई जाती है | फिर भी बारीकी से विश्लेषण द्वारा महाभारत की कुछ प्रचलित कथाओं का मिथ्यत्व आसानी से प्रकट किया जा सकता है, जिसकी सूची मैं यहां दे रहा हूं –

a .श्रीकृष्ण का विवाह केवल रुक्मिणी से हुआ था – श्रीकृष्ण की १६००० पत्नियों की मिथ्या अवधारणा का आधार उस कथा से है जिस में उन्होंने नरकासुर के चंगुल से १६००० कन्याओं को मुक्त किया है | यह कथा अपने आप में संदिग्ध है | इसके अलावा, कथा में यह चर्चा कहीं नहीं है कि श्रीकृष्ण ने १६००० कन्याओं से विवाह किया था, वहां श्रीकृष्ण द्वारा १६००० कन्याओं की रक्षा का उल्लेख है, जिसे सच माना जा सकता है यदि यह कथा सही हो तो | यदि श्रीकृष्ण ने उन सब से विवाह किया होता तो, प्रचलित विधि को संपन्न करके प्रतिदिन अधिक से अधिक चार विवाह ही किये जा सकते थे और इसे देखें तो उन्हें १० वर्ष से भी अधिक समय सिर्फ शादियां करते हुए ही बिताना पड़ता !

b . श्रीकृष्ण ने पिता बनने से पूर्व १२ वर्ष पर्यंत पूर्ण ब्रह्मचर्य की कठोर तपस्या की, इसीलिए तो श्रीकृष्ण सम्पूर्ण मानव समाज के लिए आदर्श महापुरुष हैं | इस परिक्षण काल में गीता के उपदेशक का सम्पूर्ण ध्यान केवल मात्र राष्ट्र – निर्माण पर ही केन्द्रित था |

c . श्रीकृष्ण ने गोपियों के संग कभी कोई रास – लीला नहीं रचाई | यह सब मनगढंत कल्पनाओं के चमत्कार हैं जो विदेशी दासता के अंध कल में प्रचलित हो गये, जब संघ राज्यों के शासकों ने विदेशियों के प्रभुत्व को स्वीकार कर लिया और स्वयं विलासिता में ड़ूब गये | इसके अतिरिक्त, राधा की सम्पूर्ण कथा ही कपोल- कल्पित है जो सिर्फ ब्रम्हवैवर्त पुराण में ही पाई जाती है जो की भविष्य पुराण की ही भांति एक और अप्रामाणिक पोथी है जिस में श्रीराम और श्रीकृष्ण जैसे आदर्शों को कलंकित किया गया है | राधा का विचार अभी- अभी के समय में खासकर भारतवर्ष  के अंधकार के युग में पनपा है, जब रजवाड़ों के शासक अपने – आप को भगवान श्रीकृष्ण के अवतार मानने और मनवाने पर तुले हुए थे और परंपरागत ब्रह्मचारी के चरित्र को नीचा दिखाकर कामुक गतिविधियों में लिप्त होनें में ही अपना गौरव समझते थे!  महाभारत में कहीं पर भी इन सब का उल्लेख नहीं है | कृपया हमारे परम मित्र डा.सत्यपाल सिंह, पुलीस कमिश्नर, पूना द्वारा लिखित अति उत्तम लेख –  Lord Krishna – an enlighiening personality अवश्य पढ़ें |

सामान्य जीवन में बहुविवाह –

यद्यपि इतिहास के कालखंडों में कुछ शासकों द्वारा बहुविवाह किया गया है परन्तु वह शासक वर्ग तक ही सीमित रह पाया और जनसंख्या की विस्तृत मुख्य धारा में नहीं अपनाया गया है |  इसीलिए आज़ादी के बाद एक विवाह के औपचारिक प्रस्तुतीकरण को कानून के रूप में हिन्दू समाज द्वारा बेहिचक अपनाया गया है | हिन्दू धर्म के सभी महापुरुष जो अधिकतर भगवान के बराबर समझे जाते हैं, एक पत्नीव्रती या ब्रम्हचारी ही थे –  विष्णु,शंकर,राम,लक्ष्मण,भरत,शत्रुघ्न,हनुमान तथा कृष्ण | अतः यह पूर्णरूपेण मिथ्या है कि हिंदुत्व में बहुविवाह को स्वीकृति दी गई है | इसके विपरीत, वेद स्पष्टतः सिर्फ एक विवाह का ही समर्थन करते हैं, जिसकी प्रवृत्ति समान रूप से जन साधारण तथा हमारे आदर्श पुरुषों में दिखाई देती है |

वेदों के श्रेष्ठ मूल्यों पर आधारित हिन्दू दर्शन में ही खास तौर से एक विवाह की अपेक्षा की गई है और बहुविवाह को त्याज्य समझा गया है |

परिशिष्ट :

इस अतिरिक्त टिप्पणी में हम बहुविवाह की स्वीकृति में डा.जाकिर नाइक द्वारा प्रस्तुत कुछ हेत्वाभासों के बारे में चर्चा करेंगे —

१. नाइक – औरत की औसत जिंदगी मर्द से ज्यादा होती है |

– इस कथन के अनुसार तो बहुपतित्व ( एक पत्नी- अनेक पति ) को मान्यता मिलनी चाहिए, क्योंकि औसत रूप से एक औरत एक से ज्यादा पति रखना चाहेगी अपनी पूरी जिंदगी के निभाव के लिए |

२. नाइक- विश्व में महिलाओं की जनसंख्या पुरुषों की वैश्विक जनसंख्या से ज्यादा है |

-यह पूर्वोक्त कथन को काटता है, यदि हम संयुक्त राष्ट्र संघ के सांख्यिकी विभाग द्वारा प्रकाशित विश्व जनसंख्या के २००८ के आंकड़ों पर नजर डालें तो हम पाएंगे कि विश्व में पुरुष महिलाओं से २ % ज्यादा हैं | बच्चों और वृद्धों को छोड़कर विवाह योग्य आयु वालों पर भी यही बात लागू है,  तो क्या अब वो बहुपतित्व की वकालत करेगा ?

३. आइए, आगे बढ़ने से पहले सबसे ख़राब लिंग अनुपात के देशों की सूची को देखें  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_sex_ratio

यहां इस तालिका ( टेबल ) में आप क्षेत्रों  के अनुसार छांट सकते हैं – यहां मौजूद शीर्ष ९ देश जिन में पुरुषों की संख्या महिलाओं से ज्यादा है, सभी मुस्लिम राष्ट्र हैं | जहां जितना ज्यादा इस्लामिक कानून सख्त है – वहीं ज्यादा विषम लिंग अनुपात है |  सउदी अरब अमीरात में मर्द २.७४ गुना ज्यादा हैं औरतों से और क़तर में यह संख्या २.४६ गुना है | भारत और पाकिस्तान भी अपनी मुस्लिम बहुल जनसंख्या के कारण इस सूची में नजदीक का स्थान रखते हैं |

४. नाइक-  श्रद्धालु मुस्लिम औरतों को अपनी अन्य मुस्लिम बहनों को सांझी संपत्ति बनने के बड़े नुकसान से बचाने के लिए थोडा सा व्यक्तिगत नुकसान बरदाश्त करना चाहिए |

–   हम अभी ऊपर आंकड़ें देख चुके हैं – क्या अब डा.नाइक इससे उलट की सलाह देंगे ?

– वैदिक सभ्य समाज में पत्नी के अतिरिक्त प्रत्येक स्त्री को माँ के रूप में ही देखा जाता है | जिसका मूलतत्व ‘ मातृवत् परदारेषु ‘ की भावना है – अर्थात् पत्नी के अतिरिक्त सभी स्त्रियां मेरी मां हैं, इसीलिए किसी के सांझी संपत्ति बनने का प्रश्न ही नहीं उठता | शिवाजी जैसे आदर्श पुरुष, युद्ध बंधक स्त्रियों को भी सम्मान देने के लिए सिर झुका कर उन्हें मां कहते थे !  और ऐसे समाज में जहां स्त्रियों को पूज्य माना जाता हो , विषम लिंग अनुपात का सवाल ही नहीं आता जैसा की मुस्लिम कट्टरपंथी देशों में पाया जाता है |

– महत्त्व कि बात स्त्रियों को संपत्ति कि तरह इस्तेमाल करने की है | डा. नाइक कहता है कि बहुपत्नीत्व, स्त्रियों को सांझी संपत्ति के बजाए थोड़े से व्यक्तिगत नुकसान के साथ, निजी संपत्ति की हैसियत से इस्तेमाल करने की इजाजत देता है, यह थोड़ा सा नुकसान पूरी स्त्री जाति के लिए बहुत बड़ा अपमान है | यदि, आपस में पतियों को बांटना हराम है, तो फिर स्त्री को बाँटना क्यों छोटा सा निजी नुकसान गिना जाए ? वेद स्त्री और पुरुष में कोई फर्क नही रखते और विवाह सहित सभी बातों में समान अधिकार और स्वातंत्र्य देते हैं |

आगे वह ऐसे चार कारण देता है जिनके मुताबिक बहुपत्नीत्व की आज्ञा क्यों दी गई है तथा बहुपतित्व की आज्ञा क्यों नहीं है -

a .इस से बच्चे के पिता की पहचान होती है |

– (यह तो अब डी एन ए DNA परीक्षण से भी संभव है ! )

b .मनुष्य स्वाभाव से ही बहुपत्नीत्वशील है |

-(बहुपतित्व की दोषी स्त्री को पत्थर मारकर मृत्युदंड दिया जाता है – इस के अलावा इसका कोई प्रमाण है ? क्या बहुपत्नीत्व का समर्थन करके पूरी स्त्रीजाति को अपमानित करने की यह बेहद घटिया और शर्मनाक साज़िश नहीं है ? )

c .शारीरिक रचना के तौर पर किसी स्त्री के लिए एक से अधिक पति रखना तथा बच्चों को पालना संभव नहीं है |
– ( धर्म और समाज सेवा के नाम पर एक से अधिक पत्नियों और रखैलों को रखने की एक और बेशर्म दलील है ! )

d . यौन व्याधियों का अधिक खतरा होना |
– ( इसके विपरीत चिकित्सा विज्ञान के अनुसार महिलाओं को एक से अधिक पत्नियां रखने वाले पुरुषों से यौन रोगों के संक्रमण की अधिक संभावना है | कभी चिकित्सा विज्ञान के विद्यार्थी रह चुके डा. नाइक को प्रकाशित करने से पहले कम से कम इस की प्रमाणिकता तो जांच लेनी चाहिए थी, हो सकता है कि शायद उन्हें कभी अभ्यास करने का या पुस्तकें खंगालने का मौका ही ना मिला हो ! )

बुद्धिमान स्वयं ओसामा बिन लादेन के इस प्रशंसक की मनोवृत्ति को समझ सकते हैं | संक्षेप में, बहुपत्नीत्व अनाचार है, जिसे वेदों द्वारा पूर्णतः निन्दित माना गया है | यह स्त्री का अपमान है| आज के युग में इसका समर्थन करना, वो भी एक पढ़े लिखे तथाकथिक डॉक्टर द्वारा, और ऐसे बेशर्म तर्कों द्वारा, मनुष्य के सोच का इस से अधिक पतन का और क्या उदहारण हो सकता है?

वेदों और आदर्श पुरुषों द्वारा निर्देशित हिन्दू धर्म में हमेशा एक विवाह की अवधारणा और आत्म- संयम को ही मनुष्यों का एक मात्र मार्ग माना गया है | बहुविवाह को किसी भी हेतु से उचित ठहराने की कोशिश सम्पूर्ण नारीत्व का तिरस्कार है | ईश्वर ऐसे विकृत दिमागों में सद् बुद्धि प्रदान करे ताकि वे भी वेदों की शीतल छाया के नीचे आ सकें और उनके मन में मातृशक्ति के सम्मान की भावना जागृत हो सके |

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  1. says

    Mai apke pair padkar apka ashirwaad lena chahta hoon. Aap guru hain aur mai aek tuccha prani.

    Agniveer ki jai ho ewam sabhi bhartiya musalmano ki bhi jai ho. Sabhi bhartiya musalman vedic the lekin balaat dharm-pariwartan ke karan bhatak gaye hai.

    Unhe apka roop, rang, varna ewam paramparon ko bhi dekhna chahiye. Wo jante hai ki unme arab-logon ka khoon nahi hai (DNA test karwakar check kar lena chahiye).

    Bhartiya musalmano aap sabhi hamare rakt-sambandhi ho. Sahi raste par chalne ki koshish karo.

    Regards,

    • irfan alam says

      वेद गोस्त खाने के लिए कहता हो या न कहता हो — परन्तु क्या वेद मंदिर बनाए और मूर्ति पूजा को कहता है ???? वेदों का अंग उपनिष कहता है ” म़ा तस्य प्रतिमा अस्ति ” — “”एको ब्रह्म द्वित्यो नास्ति नास्ति नास्ति नह नो नास्ति “”

      • Truth Seeker says

        @irfan alam
        Ved mandir/masjid banane ko nahi kahte hai aur Na hi Kabe ki aur sir jhukana/kale pathar ko chumna/kabe ke charo aur chakkar lagana/kabro ko pujna. Ved in pakhando ko nahi kahta hai.

      • MAYANK says

        zakir ki jabani dekho ( zakir kahata hai ki allah ko duniya me koi nahi dekh sakata chalo manate hai lekin aage kahata hai ki allah ka chehara zannat me dilh sakata hai , kya baat hai allah to sharmili dulhan hai. duniya me bodyless aur zannat me chehare wale . double role aage suno jab allah qayamat ke din niche yani pruthavi par utarata hai tab takht par baith kar aata hai jo takht ko 8 farishtey pakadate hai ab kya allah hava ka gubbara hai ya body wala hai jo takht par baitha ta hai jab baitha ta hai to ye hua ki zannat me chehare wala aur takht par baithane wala allha mortal( nashhone wala hua) bhai saupense james bond se bhi jyada hai

    • irfan alam says

      mere mai is baat ko manta hoon .ke ho sakta hai hamare purkhoon ke purkhoon ke purkhoon ke……..jab sri ram ji the.us waqt ke logon ka kam tha ki unki baaton ko mane
      quran me likha hai (kullo azrin kitab) matlab bhagwan kahte hain ki hum ne har dour me kitabon ko bheja aor uska paigam us waqt ke logon ke liye tha. aaj baat manna hai to wo hai prophet mohammad.kiya aap kabhi apne swami ji poochte hain .atharva ved ke 20ven khand me likha hai ki koi bhi pandit tab tak nahi mrna chahta jab tak wo apne bete ko .la ilaha il allah hardain papan parapem il allah matlabki bhi us bhagwan ke seva koi doosra poojane layak nahi. aor likha hai aage agar too swarg chahta hai to jape naam mohammad matlab tere sare paap mit jayenge mere bhai agar aap ko koi baat galat lgta hai to us ka proof dijiye wo bhi us dher ki badi kitabon se aisa nahi ki kahin sun liya aor ugal diya.

      • says

        ——————atharva ved ke 20ven khand me likha hai ki koi bhi pandit tab tak nahi mrna chahta jab tak wo apne bete ko “””la ilaha il allah””” hardain papan parapem il allah matlabki bhi us bhagwan ke seva koi doosra poojane layak nahi. aor likha hai aage agar too swarg chahta hai to “””jape naam mohammad “”””matlab tere sare paap mit jayenge——————–

        HaHaHHaaaHaHaHHaaaaaaa!!!
        ye “quranic ved ” khaan par milte hai hume bhi btaiye !!! kya kya pdate hai aapke madarso mein???
        yeh baat khaa se utha li!! :D LOL!!

        iska hum uttar dein ya has kar aagey nikal jayein???

        • mehul says

          ha ha ha, aaj tak to utpatang aayate hi madarse me padhayee jaati thi lagta hai ab to quranic ved padhane lage.
          vaise bhi buddhu or anpadh logo ko to jo padhate hai woh padh hi lete hai.

        • shiv bhagat says

          hahahaha kar key na taalo, jo ved ka khand 20 ka irfaan ney proof diya hai usey ghalat saabit karoo…. haso mat. tum sachchey ho to vek ka 20 wa khand kya kehta hai wo likh kar jawaab do phir hasoo ……….tab jakar to lol nahee maney jaogey. war na ha ha hah to tum par khud ulta aata hai. is web site ka mazaak mat banao….. yaha such aur ghalat ki pehchan ki baatien hotey hain. ha ha ha hah key liye religious site par mat aao……..

      • says

        ——————“atharva ved ke 20ven khand me” likha hai ki koi bhi pandit tab tak nahi mrna chahta jab tak wo apne bete ko “””la ilaha il allah””” hardain papan parapem il allah matlabki bhi us bhagwan ke seva koi doosra poojane layak nahi. aor likha hai aage agar too swarg chahta hai to “””jape naam mohammad “”””matlab tere sare paap mit jayenge——————–

        HaHaHHaaaHaHaHHaaaaaaa!!!
        ye “quranic ved ” khaan par milte hai hume bhi btaiye !!! kya kya pdate hai aapke madarso mein???
        yeh baat khaa se utha li!! :D LOL!!

        iska hum uttar dein ya has kar aagey nikal jayein???

      • raj.hyd says

        irfan ji apne yah to batlaya nahi ki yah athrvved ke kis mantr me likha hai / isliye apki bat puri tarah se galat hai athrvved kya kisi bhi ved me muhammad ji ka jikar bhi nahi hai ! baki bate to fijul ki hai !

      • MAYANK says

        muhammad ka aur ved ka koi sambandh nahi hai muhammad ko gita samaj nahi aayi isliye wo sirf zannat tak latak gaya aur sare muslamano ko punarjanam wale swarglok ki sair kara rahe hai jab punya samapt hota hai to swarg se wo vapas aata hai lekin muhmamad ne swarg ki tarif ki kyoki wo bhao aur aishwarya me duba hua tha usako jab aayesh shadi hui tab aayeshi umar 8 saaal thi matlab usane yani muhammad ne swarg me hoor ki kalpana kar di bhai kaha raja bhij aur gangu taili mat kari tulana muhamad was a blinder , jisane man,indriya ke nirodh man ka nirodh ka koi matlab nahi samaja bas shadi shadu shadi insaalah

      • says

        No one can answer your post. It is so much hilarious that no one can decide whether to hold their stomach while laughing or use keyboard to type reply…….. To me you seem an innocent brain washed person. Pity you. If you really wish to read Vedas then read the translations of people who know Sanskrit. People live whole life to master any one of 4 Vedas and you read from a westerner who has learned sanskrit in first year and translated Vedas next year….. Now answer to your question, nothing like this is mentioned in Vedas.

  2. Ramu says

    I am an revert to islam and i love islam. Your Hinduism has betrayed me – You worshipers of cow and cat and rat and dog . why dont you worship one god -allah . Why you worship dogs and animals like COW ?

    • says

      it is very sad to listen that you went to the irrational , barbaric religion of islam.

      but you must know that all that you say the worship of cow ,rat ,dogs yes they are absolutely wrong but anything that people do in name of hinduism is not sanatana dharma.
      Hinduism is the only perfect religion had you got time to read articles on agniveer you would not have taken that decison..

      please contact me at my email…
      [email protected]
      and i assure you that i would surely prove it to you that your decison to opt for islam was wrong though you are always welcome to get into the sanatan vedic religion!!

    • mehul says

      we worship cow because we drink cow milk (cow help to grow).
      allah ya parabramha(jo nirgun nirakar hai) wo nirgun nirakar hai to woh kabhi insaan ki problem solve nahi karsaqta.

      Dusri baat agar hamare ghar ke nal mai paani nahi ata to hame hamari municple corporation mai contact karna hai nahi ki rastrapati ko. murakh rastrapati ko complain karoge to kaam nahi hoga.

      • shiv bhagat says

        what a logic jawab :::: ghar key nal mey paani nahe aaye to rastrapati key paas nahi jaatey hain.. murakh nal mey paani nahee aaye to pipe line chk kartey hain yeh baat to ek choota baccha bhi janta hai… koi logic misal do yaar.

        cow give us milk to grow ??? so worship cow, then baaki jo kuch khatey ho unko bhi to poojo na dost ::::::::::::::
        green foods,grains,fruits, water, in shorts those things which is verymuch necessrary for lively hood must be worshipd
        rat ko poojtey ho aur ghar mey rat badmaashi kar ta hai to kya uskey sath pyar kartey hoo?????????????
        bandar ko poojtey ho jab bandar kheyt kalyaan mey adam machata hai to kay kartey hoo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! logical jawab do…. kiisiiii ko murakh kehney sey pehley ye sab jo kartey ho isko akal mandi kehtey ho????????????

        so mera kehney ka matlab jo swaal hai us ka logic aur sahee jawab do…… bakwaas be matlab ki baatey mat karo……

        • says

          Answer to the point i.e. logically:
          green foods,grains,fruits – Anna Devata, Prakriti Devi
          Fire – Agni Devata
          Water – Varun Devata
          Thunder, Storms, Rain – Indra Devata
          Sun – Surya Devata
          Moon – Chandra Devata
          Mother, Father – Matri Pitri Deva

          Love and respect is also a form of worship so all other relations may also fall into this. Kindness is a form of being Deva in yourseld.

          It seems like you could not understand hinduism, so you joined Islam. I don’t say you are wrong because If one does not find himself capable of studying Science they take Arts. So best of luck with Arts…. Hope it suits you.

    • raman says

      its ok on your faith..u turned your face from Hinduism but have not you read history of islam and there invasion of babaric rulers and can you take gurantee that islam will not ill treat you.see the fight between siya-sunnis. i can only say you are born refugitive and can not face challenges. yes we worship to all living and non living things because we know and see god in various for. better luck with islam friend.

    • shyam says

      रामु भाई एक चीज बताओ अगर कोई मूर्ति पूजा कर रहा है या गाय को पूज रहा है इसमें आपको क्या हर्ज है आप को जिसको पूजना है पूजो लेकिन दूसरे कोई क्या पूज रहा है इससे आपको हर्ज नहीं होना चाहिए जहाँ तक आपने कहा कि आपने इस्लाम अपना लिया है आपको अगर लगता है आप इस्लाम को मानकर ईश्वर को पा सकते हो तो ठीक है लेकिन जहाँ तक मेर मानना है आपने अपनी कमी को छुपाने के लिए अपनाया मुझे सबसे पहले आप बताएंगे मनुष्य का धर्म क्या है?क्या जिन्होंने इस्लाम अपनाया उसे कभी दुख नहीं हुआ ऐसा नहीं है प्रकृति तो हर क्षण हमारे कर्मों का हिसाब करती है जैसे आप अगर नहीं पढ़ेंगे तो एग्जाम में फेल होंगे मतलब कर्म ही हमे स्वर्ग या नर्क की ओर ले जाएगा .

      • Pankaj Kumar says

        You are true. Religion is one. That is humanity. whether u go to Hindu or Muslim or Christian. If you follow Humanity (i.e. sacrifice, work is worship, Helping , Harmony etc) Then u can only sustain there. otherwise everytime u need to change religion.

  3. says

    Namaste Ramu

    Why did you care what others do? If you wanted to worship one God, did anyone stop you in Hinduism? Did anyone threaten to kill you and force you to worship dog?

    Muslims too are Kaba and grave worshippers. Many Muslims are terrorists, thiefs and rapists too! So by your logic, you should leave Islam too.

    Vedas believe in One God. Come back to Vedas.

    • truth seeker says

      @Timmanna
      ________am an revert from Hinduism to Islam______

      May I know Why you converted from Veda to Islam. What special you find in Islam which was not in Veda, I also would like to know. I think Islam is not more than incest by support sex with mother, sisters, daughter, bowing head before stone Kaba, Killing of beneficial animals, support keeping sex slaves, believe in miracles. All such nonsense things are against Veda & I think if I am not wrong only getting support to have sex with mother, daughter, sister you would have converted to Islam so that you can claim that you have got Allah revelation/sanctioned to have sex with sister, mother, daughter & want to make them pregnant as Aadam & Mohamad did by claiming they got revelation/sanctioned from Allah.

    • viplove bansal says

      true said vajra ji I believe in sanatan-dharam and arya samaj but i believe kuran is a man made book on the name of allah to scare people of his time they can never answer u as zakir says that islam ko kuran se pehchano aur musalmano se nahi isi tarah hum kehte hai ki hindu dharam ko vedas se jano kuch hindu logo se nahi jo galat hai

      ye to aisa kagta hai ki jaise science ke student ko science samajh na aane par vo arts le leta hai apne fayade ke liye isi ta se rah ye log hindu dharam ko samjhe bina muslim ban jate h to reap the benifits to have sex with sister , mother, daughter and daughters in law because islam legilize it

    • shiv bhagat says

      vajra :: let me clear u… muslim doent worship qaba, nor worship graveyards…………. those who worship graves are not muslims. quaan reject such worship which is done execpt allah almighty…..
      we go around the qaba coz it is a act of our prayer not praying to qaba….

      • shyam says

        यार ये क्या बात होती है कि काबा को पूजना आपका सिर्फ act है किसी के प्रति श्रधा ही तो पूजा है यार पहले आप ये clear करे कि आप कहना क्या चाहते है.

  4. nafees says

    hi…
    i m roaming around the site for last few months……and decided to follow the path shown by veda….it’s superb…bt in my country, there is no1 follower of veda…..so how to convert into vedic follower?? i think conversion not required, rt?? suggestion of Vajra $ IA of any vedic scholar requested……….

    • says

      Namaste Brother nafees

      Welcome to Vedic Dharma dear Brother.

      One converts to Vedic Dharma the day he/she starts thinking rationally. You dont need to change your name or do any ritual for conversion. Its just soul which converts and that has already converted! Congratulations!

      If you want, you may write here the meaning of Gayatri Mantra as symbol of entering Vedic Dharma in the reply of this comment which I give below.

      Om Bhurbhuvah swah tát savitúr váreṇyaṃ bhárgo devásya dhīmahi dhíyo yó naḥ pracodáyāt

      Meaning:

      O One and Only One Ultimate Omnipotent Omniscient Ishwar!

      You are Bhoo – the foundation of life in entire universe and unborn! You are dearer than life because life is sustained by you!

      You are Buvah – completely devoid of sorrow. When we achieve you, all our sorrows vanish away.

      You are Swah – the sustainer and maintainer of entire world and provider of all the bliss.

      You are Savituh – the creator of entire world and provide us all the prosperities

      You are Devah – who only gives and gives and never takes anything. Who is desired by all. Who is Brilliant, Who is enlightening!

      Varenyam – You alone are worth being accepted. There is nothing except you that is worthwhile. When you are achieved, everything is achieved. And when you are not achieved, nothing is achieved. Because you are the source of everything.

      Bhargah – You are pure and without any imperfections. You are the ultimate cleanser. Nothing unclean remains when one achieves you. You represent the most perfect state of purity!

      Tat – Such are your characteristics that nothing else apart from you is worthwhile.

      Dheemahi – We only accept you through our intellect. We utilize our power of thinking to think of you alone.

      Dhiyo Yo Nah Prachodayat – Because it is you who has and who will enlighten our intellect. It is only you who will lead us from wrong towards right, from miseries towards bliss, from impurity towards purity, from Adharma towards Dharma, from hatred towards love, from evil deeds towards noble efforts.

      May Eeshvar give strength to everyone to accept the truth and reject the falsehood!

      With best wishes

      your Brother
      Vajra

      • roger says

        @nafees
        Congratulations on leaving the cult of islam. welcome to the religion of humanity.

        @vajra
        what a beautiful way of explaining gayatri mantra! keep rocking, brother.

    • says

      Brother Nafees

      And I request you to contact Agniveer by email at- agniveer[at]gmail[dot]com.

      Please use @ in place of [at] and . in place of [dot]

      thanks

  5. says

    Hi Nafees Ji,

    Vedas are how you live your life and letting others to live. Being a rational human-being you are free to accept any faith. Vedas are not constraining anyone in any vicious circle or asking anyone to surrender.

    You can still use your Surnames[Lastnames] and First names. Just by changing your ideology to “Humanitarian” would itself make you to be a believer of Vedas.

    Last but not the least, do not take any decision in a hurry to change your faith in front of these conservative and tribal muslims. Even if you would give them the hint of choosing the right faith, you would be threatened to be killed or would be killed even.

    Anyways, I welcome you to be part of rational thinkers. I know that most of the forcibly converted muslim brothers & sisters would come back to their original roots. Perhaps, it is the same Indian hereditary which is prompting you for this come-back.

    It is very difficult to live in a place where people issue fatwas.

    Regards,

    Satyendra

  6. nafees says

    thx Vajra for your valuable suggestion…the above Gayatri Mantra is gr8….let me know the meaning of Gayatri Mantra (the name “Gayatri Mantra”)…it sounds gr8 (meaning)….i am from Iran….may be in few months, i ll be in Nebraska, US for my higher study…..i ll join you people over there…..i ll mail to agniveer after reaching there…..
    …i am irritated by religious people over here….thx once again for your valuable suggestion to show me the path “the Perfect” which is for rational minds………

    • says

      Brother nafees

      Any Vedic verse is called “Mantra” and the word “Gayatri” refers to the Chhanda or prosody or the way it can be pronounced. Vedic mantras have a variety of Chhandas and the name Gayatri is derived from there.

      And nice decision of not contacting Agniveer while being in your country. We will surely wait for your mail as you reach US.

      all the best

    • Indian Agnostic says

      Brother Nafees Noshadi

      To be born as a Human is nafees (precious) because we have been blessed with the gifts of intellect , self-inquiry and an inner voice that constantly reminds us of our goal to be individually and collectively naushad (happy) both from within and without.

      In short ..Nafees Noshadi bro ..welcome back to the true meaning of your name , which is also the essence of the Vedic path !

      As brother Vajra pointed out, no need to change your beautiful name and no need to change your attire, just change the attitude : Follow things which are a) rational, b) have the sanction of your inner voice, c) inclined towards truth & against falsity and d) do unto others as you would have them do unto you

      Conceptually it’s as simple as that but in practice it will depend on how much compassion I have for humanity, how much respect do i give to my inner voice and how many truths i can face that are against my own self and others.

      Well the above points are the secular dimension of following the vedas.On the spiritual dimension, the vedic seeker searches for the eternal truths ( like our true imperishable self and the notion of godhood ) by subjecting scriptural messages to introspection, reflection and contemplation through a rational and unbiased inquiry.

      If your rationality attests that there is an imperishable SELF, then your spiritual search “WHO AM I” begins.once you are established in the true self, the notion of godhood can be explored.
      Agniveer has beautifully explained these concepts in these 14 articles: http://agniveer.com/349/introduction/ I would request you to introspect on these if time permits

      I am sorry i can’t give you a grand party like the muslims do when a non-muslim converts to Islam.But I wish from my heart for the secular and spiritual happiness of you and your family and all humanity

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXmQ3-Vg1Lo

      Welcome home once again
      your brother

  7. aryan soldier says

    nafees

    welcome to the great vedic dharma .

    the most important teching of vedic dharma is that it promotes humans to live like humans.

    vedic dharma do not divide brother from brother on basis of religion and sects.

    vedic dharma promotes true brotherhood among us and promotes for noble actions may any one be born as a muslim or christian or hindu or sikh.

  8. aryan soldier says

    ramu and timanna

    when you showed this article to your book zakir bhai MBBS and others in IRF

    what was their comments?

  9. nafees says

    thx………….Vajra & IA ………..
    @ IA: how can i know the meaning of the video u provided?? ….. i can’t understand except OM………. it sounds pleasing…………thx !!!!!!

  10. nafees says

    thx IA ….sounds pleasing wid great message for human being and all around……..i ve one question to you…….the snaps showed in the video except the person on meditation (shadowed), do they exist?? i asked u a lot questions….dun mind……now and later i ll try to find the answers myself…if confused…..i ll catch you…..TC !!!!

    • Indian Agnostic says

      Nafees ..they are an assortment of theological/nature pictures by some US follower .They aren’t real

  11. Dr khan says

    Nice article brother, but dont be too selective in interpretation of facts.TOO FOLLOW THE SCRIPTURES IS MEDANTORY FOR ALL EVEN FOR RAM JI.. . .

  12. says

    Very nice and learned article. We need more of such articles to spread true facts about Hinduism.

    1) It is clear that Hinduism and the Vedas don’t want people to marry more than one woman as wives. Polygamy was restricted to kings and rulers because of practical reasons of getting a child as successor.

    2) Krishna had only one wife – Rukmini. Radha was an imaginative character created for Bhakti marg devotees. Nothing wrong in her imagination if we think of her relation with Krishna as pure and of divine love.

    3) I have myself deconstructed the logic of Z.N. and I find him illogical many times. Let us not give him too much publicity by quoting his name in our articles. We can write same articles without mentioning his name.

    Thanks a ton for this article. Please keep continued. Also please keep copies of your learned articles, and let us share it with maximum possible.

  13. Ravinder Nath Watts says

    Every Hindu must read this wonderful article about our own scripture specially about the Vedas which give us a pride being the oldest wisdom source and knowledge of Adhyatma. Pandit Vats aka Ravinder Nath Watts, San Lorenzo, California USA.

  14. Ravinder Nath Watts says

    In the event of any contradiction coming in up
    in Shruti, Smriti, Puranas, only the Veda’s instructions will prevail. No other person other than a Hindu has any right to contradict and find faults without becoming a Hindu.
    Hence the Western scholars or any Muslim scholars has no rith to interfere in our Dharma and translating wrongly the Richas for defaming Hinduism or Vedic Santan Dharma. Already for the last centuries mush damage has been done. They have nothing to do with Hindu culture otherwise it would tantamount to blasphemy. Theirs own books are filled with a number of discrpencies like sura 2.3, 3.10, 3.116 of Koran orders to burn alive the non believers. How far is it fair? It is only Vedic Sanatan Dharma that allows even an athiest to live as a Human being.

  15. Truth Seeker says

    @Agniveer
    _______हिन्दू धर्म के सभी महापुरुष जो अधिकतर भगवान के बराबर समझे जाते हैं, एक पत्नीव्रती या ब्रम्हचारी ही थे – विष्णु,शंकर,राम,लक्ष्मण,भरत,शत्रुघ्न,हनुमान तथा कृष्ण_______(Part of Article)
    Agniveer this sentence has confused many & I had to face debate on this in my locality because you have mentioned name of Hanuman. Many people could not take sentence in right way they understood Agniveer has mentioned Hanuman also had a wife. But I make them understand here is word Brahmchari also mentioned for Hanuman.

    • deepika desai says

      vakya bilkul saral he.
      hindu dharm me bhagwan ke bababar mane jane wale sabhi mahapurush brhamchari ya 1 patnivrati he!!!!!!
      bhagwanhanuman ko brahmchari shabd ke pariprekshya me hi samaj me aa raha he.
      sabhi jante he ki vo brahmchari hi he…….
      VIVAD ki gunjaish na rakh kar samajne ka prayatna kare…..

  16. says

    I am really glad and am proud to be a hindu and living here in pakistan restricted us to follow the True path(VEDIC DHARAM) at home only. There are no any vidya shala or Vedic School so we or our generation could be better hindu and solve the problems of the other hindus and confining them not to convert to islam and other religion…. BTW I m really happy have been here on AGNIVEER and A.veer has benefited me alot…and hav done superb job by giving or showing the right path to the people which we cann’t do here…
    hare krishna…..

    • says

      Hats off Brother Arjun..

      May Eeshvar protect you.

      BTW is any Indian Jihadi around who thinks Agniveer or Hindus abuse/suppress Muslims? Is there one who has guts to say sorry to Arjun for the oppression of Hindus by their fastest growing Jihadi brotherens in Pakistan?

  17. A.H.Ansari says

    Ye sab log kya bakwas kar rahe hai, Ye Zakir Naiyak ne kya kaha hai main nahi janta, lekin agniveer name ka ye lekhak jo islam ke khilaf mangadhant kahaniya likh raha hai ye bilkul galat bat hai, tark ka abhaw hai aur kalpanick tark de raha hai, Shadiyan app jitani chahe utani bar kar sakte hai lekin dharmik riti riwaj ke daiyere me rahkar, Kewall shadiya Aiyyashi ke liye hi nahi ki jati , ab mujhe samjhane ke liye vivaha ke bare me batlana hoga, 2 ya 2 se adhik shadi karne ka ye log galat matlab nikal rahe hai…… Raja Dasharath ki 3 raniya thi, Bhagwan Krishan ki bhi Radha, Rukmani, gopiyan thi, shadi kab kyon aur kisase aur kaise ki ja sakti hai ye Kuran me likha hua hai, Kuran Allah (God) ki pankatiya hai muhammad SW ki nahi………..

    • Akhila Padhi says

      Sayed apne wo uttar nhi padha jis me Krishna ki bahu patnivad ka khandan kiya gya he. Me ye nhi kehna chahta hi k koran me kya likha he. Me bs itna kehta hu k Hindu dharm me bahu vivah ko galat mana gya he. Jo kartey he wo galat kartey he. Praman k swarup kuch vedic slok upar diye gye he.

    • raj.hyd says

      manniy A.H. ji ,raja dashrath ji hamare adarsh kabhi nahi rahe krishn ji ne “agar” kuch galat bhi kya hai to hame unka yah adarsh nahi manna 1 ham shreshth vyakti ke achhe vichar hi manna chahate hai![ sab nahi ] kyoki koi bi manushy ho, kitna bhia achha kyo n ho ? usme koi n koi galti bhi sambhav hai ! is sansar me ,asiya me, saudee arab me, pqkistan me, afagan me ,bangladesh adi anek muslim desho me ,bharat me purush ke mukable mahilaye kam hai tab kaise koi ek se jyada vivah karne ki “mansikta” bana sakta hai ? fir bhi agar koi dusra vivah karta hai to vah apne bhai ka hi adhikar[ haq] marta hai ! jab kisi ko kanyaye nahi milegi tab vah chori chipe kisi mahila se avaidh sambandh bhi banayega ! samany purush bagair sex[vivah] ke kaise rah sakta hai ? isliye dusra vivah ki bat ghor apatti janak hai ! quran ki ek se jyada nikah ki bat is samay jhuthi siddh hoti hai ! ab rahi bat islam ki alochna ki ! kya islam alochna se pare hai ? kyaa muhammad ji ke samay me unki alochna nahi hui thi ? kya muhammad ji ko apni jan bachakar chori se madeena nahi bhagna pada? agniveer ji ne kaun si alochna manghadant ki jara yah bhi to batlaiye ? agar quran allah ji ki kitab hoti to vah “betarteeb ” nahi hoti virodha bhashi bate nahi hoti, usme krodh nahi hota, badla nahi hota ,” vajebulkatl” nahi hota manushyo me bhed bhav ki bat nahi hoti ! qurqn muhammad ji ki ho ya unke sahabi ki ho uske jimmedar muhammad ji hi hai ! jaise anna ji ne anshan kiya , sath me unke sathi buddhijivi , kanoon ke jankar, pulis ke jankar adi bhi shamil the , tab bhi mukhiya anna ji hi the ! vaise hi mukhy bhumika muhammad ji ki kahalayegi allah adi ki nahi,! vah matr sahayak kahalaye jayenge !

      • Afridi says

        Mul ki bhul @ Raj ji…

        Muh kholana aur bhak se bolne ke siwa bhi kuch samjhne ka kast kare bhai ki kya sahi aur kya galat hai…
        Aap ne ye kaise samaj liya ki Islaam me 4 shadiya karna aniwarya hain…
        Chalo maan liya ki aap ka dimaag paidal hain par itna bhi paidal kaise ho sakta hain…bhai ….wo kahte hai na thodi jaankaari aksar khatrnaak hoti hain…apko batana chahuga ki…

        Poori duniya mein sirf Quran hi ek aisi kitaab hai jo kehti hai ki Marry only one…sirf ek se shaadi karo…its my challenge even hindusm,chiristians aur kisi bhi religion ki kisi bhi kitab mein ye likkha hai to plz mujhe bataye ki kaun se sloke me diya hain….aapko batata chalu ki Quran ke sure bakhra mein allah farmata hai ki ek se shaadi karo..ye aayat kuch iss taran se kehti hai..Marry only one or in twos or threes or fours only when if you could make justice to them..Aaapki jankari ke liye bata dun raj ji Quran mein 4 shaadi karna aniwariya nahin optional hai aur wo bhi jab jab aap sabke saath niyay kar sakein harr tareeqe se paise se,pyar se aur even sexual intercourse se tabhi aap 4 shaadiyan kar sakte hain nahin to its haram…
        aur jahan tak sawal mard aur aurat ka hai to usska jawab ye hai..ki alhamdollillah islam mein harr cheez insaani tareeke aur allah ne humare hukook ke hisaab se samjhjya hai…Mard ko ye option iss liye diya gaya hai ki allah janta hai ki jise ussne banaya hai wo illigal sex karega issiliye isse option mein rakkha hai..aaj kitne hi log extra maritial affairs rakhte hain…even in hindusm aur chiristianity ki to aap baat hi nahin kar sakte hain..Isski ek wajah aur bhi hai @raj ji ..

        • raj.hyd says

          quran ke ati andh vishvasi shri afridi ji , ham ne kab kaha ki islam me 4 shadiya anivary hai ?
          qurani allah ne ek se jyada ki choot kyo di ?
          jab di hai to aaj bhi muslim desho me bhi mahilaye purusho se kam kyo hai ? tab to qurani allah jhutha[vyavastha me fail] bhi sabit ho jata hai !
          muhammad ji ne patniyo ke” bhandaar” kyo banaye the? iske baad bhi anek dasiyo se bagair nikah ke sex kyo kiya tha unse bachha bhi kyo paida kiya tha[ mari yakabti ki ham baat kar rahe hai ] muhamamd ji ki god me khelne vale navase hasan ji ne 90 nikah kis “khushi” me kiye the ? jab koi sandesh vahak dusre nikah ka rasta dikhlayega tab bahut se any raste bhi khoj lete hai ! isliye hamko kahan ahota hai ki quran “mul ki bhul hai ” muhammad ji ki ayyashiyo ko rasta dikhlati thi

      • Afridi says

        @ Raj…………Ji…
        main aapse poochna chahta hun ki (bura nahin manna its an example) agar aapki khud ki behn aisi jagah hai jahan par 10 lacs aurtein hain aur 5 lacs mard hain aur unnsab se keh diya jaye ki apne partners chun lein to 5 lacs ko to partner mil gaye aur shadiyan bhi ho gayin lekin baki ki 5 lacs aurton ka kya hoga??? lets say ki ussmein aapki behn bhi hai to usska kya hoga??? usske aage teen hi option hain ya to wo saari umer kuwari rahe ya phir public property ban jaye…as per as i m concern about the medical truth that no woman can be virgin thoughout his whole life..saari zindigi koi aurat kuwari ji hi nahin sakti aisa medical science kehti hai…aur public property ka to matlab aap samajhte hi hain aur raha teesra option ki wo islam ke tareeke se aise aadmi se shaadi kar le jo pehle se shaadi shuda hai..mere khayyal mein third option is better aur hazar jagah quran mein allah ne likkha hai ki HE knows the truth..to usse pata tha ki aisa hoga issi liye ussne ye jayz kiya hai…aur raha sawal aurat ke do ya chaar shaadi karne ka to islam ye nahin kehta ki aurat doosri shaadi nahin kar sakti hai..aurat doosri shaadi kar sakti hai lekin apne current husband ke marr jane ke baad ya usse talaq ho jane ke baad..at a time ek se zyada husband iss liye nahin rakh sakti hai kyonki jo aulad hoyeingi aur jab wo school jayeingi to pata hi nahin chal sakega ki isska baap kaun hai…aur aapki medical science bhi ye kehti hai ki aurat agar ek time mein ek se zyada mardon se sexual intercourse karti hai to unusual deseases jaise ki AIDS etc ka failne ka khatra 100% rehta hai..aur phir main yahi kahunga ALLAH (SWT) Knows everything issiliye ussne islam mein harr cheez mukarrar karne ka ek maksad rakkha hai…aaap inn baton ko zara sochein aur batayein ki issmein ghalat kahan hai???? Aur phir bata dun ki ek se zyada biwi rakhna its optional aur aap ko justice bhi dena hai ye nahin ki aapne apne faide ke liye rakh liye aur use kar ke chorh diya..its haram…

        • raj.hyd says

          sabse pahale, aap yah to batlaiye aisa kaun sa desh hai jisme mahilaye mardo se dugni hai ? kalpnik baato se kya hota hai ? aaj duniya ke adhikansh desho me [muslim desho sahit ] mahilaye mardo se ka sankhya me hai ! aaj to kuran ki ek se jyada nikah karne ki baat jhuthi sabit ho jati hai ! is deshme anek mahilaye vivah bhi nahi karti hai jain sadhviyo ko aap dekh sakte hai uma bharti anand mayi maan !m iskasabut bhi hai
          aur bahut se vidhva aur talaq shuda bhi dusra nikah nahi karti vah kaise raha leti hai bahutsi mahilao ko mardo se nafrat bhi ho jati hai !
          skoolmebachhe ki mata ka naam likhn eka vikap rakh ajs katahai koi jaruri nahi ki sirf pita ka naam rakhajaye bahutmahilaye jyada sexi hoti hai aagar vah ek samay me do nikah kar le to isme taklif kyo ho ! agar mardo ko ek se jyada choot mile to nariyo ko kyo n di jaye ?”dusre ke saath vahi vyavhaar kijiye jo apne iye bhi pasand aye ”
          quarn is baat ko nahi manti isliye quran manvta ke virddh sabit hoti hai 1

      • Afridi says

        Mul ki bhul@ Raj ji………
        jaisa ki hum sab jante hain ki Sri ram ke father ki kitni wives thin??? 5 i think :D aur sri krishna ki kiti wives thin more than 16000 to aap bata dein ki aapko kya takleef hai Raj ji islam mein to sirf 4 hain wo bhi sharton ke saath…aap kahte hain Abhimannu ji Arajun ji ke puttra the batlaiye kaise ?log to ye bhi kahte hain ki wo yudister ,Bhim,Nakul,Shahdev ke bhi ho sakte hain ye main nhi aap jaise Maharathi hi kahte hain…Hope this answers the question aur mere diye gaye kisi bhi example ka matlab aap ghalat dhang se nahin lena…thank you…
        Ek baat aur aap jin Mulko ki uppar baat kar karhe hai to zra pahle pata karo ki in mulko me aurte aur mardo ke paidaish ke percentage,Mard aurat ke abbadi ke parcentage, aur Mard aurto ke marne ka rasio kitna hai aap ko sab samaj me aa jayega…
        Jaha tak rahi Bhed bhav ke baat to Manu Smirit karti hain jiske aap fallower ho bhai…….zisme saaf taur se chhote bare ke haq ke baare me bataya gya hain…@ raj ji aap to anteryaami ho aap to har sloke me manu smriti ke 6/92 ke anusaar har apne blog me Dharm ka lacchan batane ka paryaas karte ho Dharti ,kashma damo asteyam,shacham, indriy nigrah,dhi, vidya,satyam akrodho dashakm dharm lakshanam isme,
        …fir baaki sloko ko aap kyu nhi mante …..aap apna whi ghesa pita Dailog maroge ki …ved me aur Manu smriti me ye sawtantrata di gai hain ki jo buddi ke pratikul ho use mano jo nhi ho use na mano ….lakin maine pahle bhi puccha aaj bhi pucch rha hu ki Kuan se sloke (sutra) me ye diya hain……….bhai…

        kyuinki jaankari lena galat nhi hota lakin galat tarike se us jaankaari ko loge to wo galat hi lagegi ….
        Thanks….

        • raj.hyd says

          quran ke atiandhvishvasi shri afridi ji , quran kahati haiki sansar me jo kuch hota hai vah qurani allah ki va jah se hota hai
          ab adhikansh duniya me agar mard jyada hai aur nariya kam hai to doshi qurani alalh ko kyo nahi kaha ja skata hai ?
          dashrath ji kisi ke adarsh nahi hai
          raam ji avashy hai!
          ram ji ke parivaar ki parampara anek vivah ki thi, iske baad bhi nahi kiya !
          agar shri krishn ji ne16000 vivah iye hote to roz sex karne par 44 saal baad pahali patni ka nambar ata isliye yahbkahani jhuthi hai 16000 m e365 ka bhag karkem dekh lijiye !
          fir unse bache bhi hote jo nahi the sirf ek putr “pradumn ” rukmani ke garbh se huya tha !
          koi dusri aapne jani ho vah aap batla dijiye
          abhimanyu arjun ka putr tha jab us samay ka samaj svikar kar raha hai
          tab aapki apatti ka kya m lya hai agaryah bhi man aliya jaye ki abhi manyu ke pita kaun hai yah sabit nahi hota to isme taklif kya hai?
          mukhybaat to yahhai ki abhi manyu ki vidya yudhh kala kya thi ! hamare ya aapke pita kaun hai yabaat bhi mukhy nahi hai uske karm kyya hai vaha jyada mukhy baat hai! bahut se bachhe anathalay me aakara koi god bhi leleta hai 1 kya un bachho ka koi muly nahi hai koi unki yogyta nahi hai ! veshyao ke bhi bachhe hote hai avaidh santane bhi hoti hai iska koi vishsh matlab nahi hai jabki uske karm kya hai vah jyada mukhybaat hai ! anek “vaidh ” santane galat kaam karti hai tab aap kya kahenge ?
          manusmrti me ek vivah ki baat hai !
          agar apke pita koi galat baat kahate hai k tab kya ap unki baat man lenge ? usi tarah se kitab koi bhi ho uski galat baat mat maniye achhi bat apni samarthyanusaar mani ja sakti hai 1 hamne anek pitao ko apn ebete ke saath sharab pite huye dekha hai pita svayam apne bade bachho ko sharab pilate hai kya aisi bat manani chahye ?

    • says

      Aapko itna samjhane par bhi samajh nahi aaya A. H. sahab. Aap kyon faltoo me apne ko sahi siddh karne me lage ho kyoki aisa nahi ki humme se kisi ne kuran nahi padhi. Aap kah rahe hai ki ek se jyada biviya rakhne ka matlab aiyyashi karna nahi. Main maan bhi jaati hoon unko unki raksha ke liye nikah kiya jata hai to kya kis ko bahan beti or maa maan kar uski raksha nahi ki ja sakti. Mohammad sahab ki biviyo me vraddha bhi thi or unke apne bete ki unki putri jaisi bahu bhi. Kya yahi hai unki raksha karne se matlab. Yadi aaj koi muslim apne bete ki patni ko aise hi rakhega to kya aap use sahi thahrayenge?

  18. says

    कहते हैं की कृष्ण जी की १६ हजार गोपिकाएं थी. यह तो सच है की उनके द्वारा १६ हज़ार गोपिकाएं थी किन्तु हमने इसका अर्थ ठीक तरह से समझा नहीं और जीवन के हर मोड़ पर अनुसरण करने योग्य श्री कृष्ण के चरित्र पर दाग लगा दिया और बाद में उसे सही सिद्ध करने के लिए तरह तरह की कहानिया बना ली. सोचिये जो आज के युग में भी पाप समझा जाता है क्या वह योगेश्वर कृष्ण कर सकते हैं. कभी नहीं. वास्तव में गोपी शब्द का अर्थ होता है वेद के मन्त्र. गोपिकाए, गोपाल अर्थात गौ पालने वाले पुरुष की स्त्री को भी कहते है किन्तु यह सोचिये क्या किसी भी स्त्री के लिए अपने पति के अतिरिक्त किसी अन्य पुरुष का ध्यान उचित है? ऐसा करने से समाज में कितनी भयानक निम्नता आ जाएगी आज के समाज से बढ़कर कोई और उदाहरण नहीं हो सकता. तो मै कह रही थी गोपी का अर्थ होता है वेद के मन्त्र. तथ्य यह है की श्री कृष्ण को १६ हज़ार वेद मन्त्र सिद्ध थे १६ हज़ार गोपिय(स्त्रिया) नहीं. आइये सत्य की खोज कर अपना व आर्यत्व का सम्मान बढाये.
    जय भारत

    • shyam says

      सही कहा आपने गीतान्जली जी लोगों ने तो खुद कहानियाँ रच रखी है.

  19. theone says

    check this on polygamy

    We all know Taj-Mahal as a symbol of true love right?
    but the other lesser known facts

    1. Mumtaj was shahjahan’s 4th wife out of his seven wives
    2. shahjhan killed mumtaj’s husband to marry her
    3. Mumtaj died during her 14th delivery
    4. shahjhan then married mumtaj’s sister

    where the hell is love here and please also get concerned about women status in islam 14 children lols

  20. AOGOI says

    I am not a scholar but i would like to say that some of the Muslim brothers have missed the point in the article.
    Its Mr Zakir Naik who points to Vedas… to prove his 2+2=4 kind of theories. Agniveer ji is here just reveal the right Vedas.
    Mr zakir naik says he is the student of comparative religion.
    A comparative religion ?? what the hell (actually there is no hell :P) ?? Comparing different religions make someone a scholar?

  21. shafaq says

    Seems like there are too many who are expressing their anger via this Blog, especially Mr. Agniveer. One way he tells that Islam is terrific religion, the other way he himself translates gayatri mantra giving a brief of one and complete GOD. A guy asked a qwestion whether GOD was sitting idle before the creation of this world ?? My qwestion is what was Bramha or whoever they think a creator (becoz there are so many even animals also) was doing before the creation of this world? Lol– such foolish question including mine also, and there ae so many fools to apprecitae such questions also.

    • Chetan says

      Why are you confused? There are no so called animal Gods in Vedas. Don’t mix up Shaiv, Shakt, Vashnav etc religions with Vedik Dharma.

  22. shafaq says

    @GOD IS GREAT (tell us which one ) & AOGOI : You keep singing, all the mosques were temples, Lol..go on keep doing the politicians work, kill a particular community, even the media will backup you, even if you blast,, you know a muslim will be blamed and verdict-ed…great going Indian politics….keep it up…AOGOI– why don’t you ask Zakir Nayak about your questions…you cant bcoz he gave the answers along with proofs. But I suppose you cant take the truth…its OK… there are so many websites like this one where you ppl can spilt all the filth from your mouth…Ask Agni veer what does Ved describes about GOD, Ok lemme tell you “Parmeshwar ek hai, Parmeshwar nirakaar hai”. even Agniveer cannot except the truth.

  23. shafaq says

    @Kalki Sharma : A question to you- How many wives does you Bhagwan Krishna had? Ok let me tell you…
    According to some texts, Krishna had 16,108 wives, of which eight were chief – including Rukmini, Satyabhama and Jambavati. Krishna’s other 16,100 wives were previously being held in captivity by Narakasura, untill Krishna killed him and released them all.

    Krishna had 16,108 wives. Krishna married Rukmini, daughter of King Bhishmaka of Vidarbha. He also married Mitrabinda, Satyabhama, Jambavati and others, winning each by great deeds; and another time, when a demon named Bhaumasura carried off and concealed many thousand princesses, Krishna pursued and slew him, and received these also into his house. Each of his wives had ten sons and one daughter. While Krishna was ruling at Dwaraka, Duryodhana was oppressing the Pandavas at Hastinapur and sought to compass their death. Krishna and Balarama went to give them help, and it was while Krishna was the Pandavas’ guest that he married Kalindi, daughter of Sun.

  24. shafaq says

    @ Kalki- How many wives does Lord Shiva had??
    Shiva’s first wife was Sati and his second wife was Parvati. I hope this is not polygamy, but some kind of chamatkaar…isn’nt it….
    Ok- how many wives did Shivaji had ??? Let me tell you, he had 8 as follows:-
    Wives:
    Sai bai (Nimbalkar)
    Soyarabai (Mohite)
    Putalabai (Palkar)
    Laxmibai (Vichare)
    Kashibai (Jadhav)
    Sagunabai (Shirke)
    Gunvantibai (Ingale)
    Sakavaarbai (Gaikwad)[3][4]

    Offspring
    Sambhaji, Rajaram, and six daughters Sakhubai Nimbalkar, Ranubai Jadhav, Ambikabai Mahadik, Deepabai, Rajkunvarbai Shirke, Kamlabai Palkar.

    • says

      @shafaq

      You do not have the full knowledge and that is making you a laughing stock here, that is why no one is even bothering to answer you.
      Mother Sati is Adhi Shakti (half part/energy of Lord Shiva – without her Lord Shiva is Incomplete) and she killed herself because of her father’s ego, as he had insulted her husband, she prayed to be born again and again become Lord Shiva’s wife and wished to have a father who was ego less, So she was reborn as Parvati and was united with Lord Shiva.
      About Shivaji, there were many customs which have been created by us humans, like marrying again – so as to have a successor, in order to stop such fake rituals and customs the monogamy law was passed in India by the Hindus.
      I do not see any muslim country/community passing a law specifically for monogamy whatsay?

      And Shivaji was a brave soldier, a great king who looked after his people like father, I would like to remember him in this way and not for his polygamy. I choose to remember him as i want to and it does not matter how many faults you point out in our people, we tend to look at good/positive points, which sadly you do not want to do.

      • says

        What about Krishna’s and 16,108 wives and what about Gopis????? Women right here are thrown out of window is it

        • says

          He had no such wives…. its adultrated form of story that you are reading I do not from where and the “Gopies” were his childhood friends and nothing else after he (Shri Krishna Ji) moved to become King of Dwarika.

  25. shafaq says

    @Kalki— will you follow what your Bhagwaan Krishna did, I suppose you cannot describe his deeds as wrong, if he was right then you must stop singing against polygamy or otherwise you must put your own deities in question???

    • GOD IS GREAT says

      Mr. Shafaq!

      Answer to your question is here.

      http://agniveerfans.wordpress.com/2011/08/16/krishna/

      Sorry! The answer is in Hindi. So, get some translator in case you don’t know Hindi. Coming to polygamy case, Allah said to everyone to have 4 wives maximum. Why Mohammed had 12 then? One of them was a baby Aisha. Mohammed married her and …

      Krishna nowhere said to emulate himself but Mohammed wanted everyone to emulate himself. You know why Muslims are circumcised? It is medically proven to reduce the probability of AIDS. Now, it indirectly gives license to rape. It does not matter as to how many you rape – 10, 100, 1000, 10,000, infinite; rarely you will suffer from AIDS. WOW! Muslims are indeed fortunate to enjoy rape legally & medically.

  26. shafaq says

    @ Arun: you must know that Hindu is the name given by the Britishers on the name Indus civilization. there was sanatan dharma. So don’t say it that proudly.
    And as Shankaracharye speaks in the following video- Sanatan dharma asks to worship one GOD.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Nw-_YmNwJQ
    If you follow the concerned contents of Veda, you are ultimately following Quran.

    • GOD IS GREAT says

      Mr. Shafaq!

      I agree with you. Islam indeed means peace by submission of will to GOD. Same is “Sharanagati” concept in Hinduism. If I am NOT wrong about Islam, it too demands to get rid of ego. Islam actually is NOT a different religion. It is same as following your own religions in the extreme manner. That’s why Muslims are always perceived as extremists. Islam (just like Hinduism OR any other religion) is a way of reaching same GOD. No one hates Islam (i.e., Submission of will to GOD and peace) here but every sensible being hates a Muslim who is extremist.

      We are followers of humanity here & criticize Islamic followers. If Muslims promise to behave peacefully eliminating these 3 barriers:
      A> RELIGIOUS — No Muslim and NON Muslim rivalry can take place
      B> GENDER — No beating of wives by husbands
      C> OTHERs — Any other hindrance to universal brotherhood
      Then rarely any Hindu will think against a Muslim. But the problem is: Who will guarantee such a promise?

  27. shafaq says

    Kalki ji- now you state what you dont know, can you tell which verse of Quran allows to keep sex-slaves???? There is none. Without marriage sex is Haraam and a SIN. After marriage sex is HAQ “right”.

    • Truth Seeker says

      @shafaq
      There is nothing wrong keeping sex slaves. Quran permits it. Look at here.
      Qur’an (33:50) – “O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those (slaves) whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee” This is one of several personal-sounding verses “from Allah” narrated by Muhammad – in this case allowing himself a virtually unlimited supply of sex partners. Others are restrained to four wives, but may also have sex with any number of slaves, as the following verse make clear:

      • Human says

        yeah bro- this is what you churned out from the verses- and those (slaves) whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee”
        this clearly meant that those prisoners had no where else to go, were insecure. so if they want -Prophet can marry them and provide proper shelter.

        • SDC says

          Why were they made slaves in the first place? Wars have been fought in India as well for centuries. Have not heard of the concept of sexual slavery.

          Does the prophet even have to marry those who are his daughter’s age? Did the slaves ask for sexual exploitation/gratification? Surely, there were other means of providing them succor if at all they asked for any. Nobody out of his/her own volition would accept slavery. And you call yourself a human. What an irony!

        • GOD IS GREAT says

          SDC Sir,

          You are missing out a very important rule. Arab was a fan for sex. That’s why Mohammed showed them dreams of some divine sexual empowered heaven. NOW, rule says that if you are NOT managing certain things on Earth, you can’t manage that in the hereafter. In Heavens, Muslims shall have 72 hoories. If you are a male, can you do sex with 72 female virgins without any practice of the same? Definitely NOT. So, Muslims here practice sex. Suppose: Allah tells them to do sex with 72 virgins and they say – I don’t know ??? These jokers don’t know that heaven is supposed to contain spiritual benefits rather than sexual.

          Regarding the above commenter, he seems mentally tortured. The truth is that every sensible human knows that humanity and Muslim are just opposite poles. They won’t match at all. So, he is indirectly insulting humanity by his comments. We Hindus are ready to accept that Islam means peace but Muslims want 9/11 history to be repeated. Who is better now?

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoeQ8qWdT34

  28. says

    Look like conversation happening here is people talking to themself with no opposition lol. This is not a conversation this indoctrination. Why dosen’t Agniveer organize an event with Zakir Naik and have the conversation with him directly. Is Angiveer scared they dont have the fact to prove their side of argument???

    • HAHAHA says

      PLEASE TELL YOUR ZAKIR NAIK TO ACCEPT CHALLENGE OF ARYA SAMAJ. THEY CHALLENGED HIM IN 2004 AND TOLD HIM TO ACCEPT TILL QAYAMAT. BUT HE REFUSED AND NEVER MANAGED TO EVEN TALK WITH THEM. HIS REPUTED SCHOLAR Dr. ABDULLAH TARIQ WAS DEFEATED BY ARYA SAMAJ. ASK SOME SCHOLAR ABOUT MP ARYA – ABDULLA TARIQ DEBATE AND SEE THAT YOURSELF. HAHAHA :-D

      • says

        Just saw the debate lol.. First of All the debate was not about Vedas and Islam. The Debate was purely about ISLAM. All the questions were asked about quran none of the question were on Vedas. Also Arya Samaj speaker asked question again with a common mistake of taking paragarah out of contest. Abdullah Tariq gave the explanation very well on that.. So to your point were you said “Defeated” as if they were fighting a war. Abullah never lost the conversation. Show my one point were Abduallah wasn’t able to clarify???

        • HAHAHA says

          You have mentioned right thing – the debate was on WHETHER ISLAM MEANS PEACE OR NOT. It has nothing to do with Vedas. True BUT have you carefully noticed how Abdulla defends — He says this is a very crucial topic. (We all know that islamic terrorism is on hype these days.) Then he goes on saying that NOT all muslims are terrorist BUT all Terrorists are muslims. He further explains that Quran verses are misunderstood by Muslims themselves. This was excellent beginning. Problem was with how he ends his part. He blames Gita and Vedas for violence. Dr. Mahendra Pal Arya interferes as the topic of debate is wrongly followed then the debate gets a new direction – WHICH IS BAD: QURAN OR VEDAS.

          The only way Abdulla manages is to say – You have quoted Quran out of context. My question is DO YOU REALLY NEED CONTEXT TO UNDERSTAND QURAN?

          Quran 2:99 calls itself a clear book. 6:114 calls it simple and clarified. 6:126 calls it straight path. 17:12 calls Quran as detailed and explained. 41:3 and 44:2 confirms that quran is complete. This proves that there is no need of any Hadith / Suna / Sira / Tafsir etc. Else GOD would have mentioned that you need them as well.

          Btw Dr. Ali Sina has successfully concluded that Quran is bad BUT context makes it worse. One such example is here — http://www.faithfreedom.org/faq/70.htm He uses that to show Mohammed as a narcissist rapist terrorist.

          Regarding Abdulla Tariq defeat, that was clear. Arya Samaj handed over him a page on which he had written few questions to islamic scholars. Abdulla only manages to fold hands (what you say in hindi – हाथ जोड़ना) as a symbol of defeat.

  29. says

    What about Krishna’s and 16,108 wives and what about Gopis????? Women right here are thrown out of window is it. What about Draupadi clasic example of Polygandry

    • says

      He had no such wives…. its adultrated form of story that you are reading I do not from where and the “Gopies” were his childhood friends and nothing else after he (Shri Krishna Ji) moved to become the King of Dwarika.
      He helped the Pandavas because 1. The eldest Kaurava brother, Dhuryodhan, had insulted their wife, and 2. Dhuryodhan was not ready to give them their share of kingdom….and the war did not take place on the drop of stone…..Pandavas had requested many a times to their brother Dhuryodhan to allow them their share…even right before the war on the battlefield.
      Also as I have already said such customs were made by us humans (Pandavas and Kauravas were humans) only and we ourselves have broken them…..we, the Hindus, passed the monogamy law for both men and women…are you Muslims ready to do the same? you never answered to that….

      • Zk says

        But what about Draupadi .. Polyandry ..:). Who passed the law the Polyandry is still practice in India. Are you getting confused between Indian constitutional law of marriage which is taken from British system. If Hindu laws are not fixed but fluid then why should any one follow Hinduism where the law changes every time. Tomorrow you will say marriage institution is useless. Like in the case Osho where the disciple practice orgies. lets every one fornicate.

        • HAHAHA says

          Where you saw polyandry practiced? OH – in few illiterate villages. Right? How will you justify pedophilia in Indonesia AND Arabia? How will you justify honour killing in PAK / BAN / Baluchistan? That is a wonderful case bcoz a muslim kills another muslim in the name of Allah. I dont know how Allah enjoys that.

          Regarding Draupadi case, IND books were corrupt during Muslim conquest. Original Mahabharata manuscript was only 20,000 Shlokas now, containing 1,00,000.

        • says

          oh man you are such an idiot…..did you even research in Indian laws? you do not have any knowledge and are babbling just for the sake of it. …. oh god is there any greater fool than you? THERE IS A LAW IN INDIA PROHIBITING POLYGAMY – The Hindu Marriage Act of 1955…. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_Marriage_Act
          This law holds for both men and women (polygamy and polyandry) and efforts are being put in to stop those who practice it against the law…it is a criminal offence…
          First you complain that we do not eradicate wrong practices, when we do that then you say that we are very volatile…..you decide your mind first that what you want you idiot….we hindus are at least ready to eradicate the wrong practices…we do not justify them….about Osho thing, please give a proof about what you are saying about him….and….You still have not answered my question that are you Muslims ready to do the same? make a law to ban polygamy/polyandry?

  30. says

    He had no such wives…. its adultrated form of story that you are reading I do not from where and the “Gopies” were his childhood friends and nothing else after he (Shri Krishna Ji) moved to become the King of Dwarika. Also as I have already said such customs were made by us humans only and we ourselves have broken them…..we, the Hindus, passed the monogamy law for both men and women…are you Muslims ready to do the same? you never answered to that….

    • Zk says

      If you read the laws of Polygamy in Islam. You wouldn’t practice polygamy, The same way as you mention that i am reading adulterated topic.. your reading the adulterated topic about Islamic Polygamy in Agni veer.

  31. Zk says

    I am not joking … Here you go. It is a basic understanding of all Muslims that you cannot marry a woman without her permission. This means that unless a Muslim woman agree to the proposal, Nikah doesn’t happen… So it is the woman’s choice to marry a man who is already married . Qur’an says that if you cannot do justice and treat all your wives with same love, then marry only one. In Islam Adultary is a major sin, Unlike other people who general have extramarital affair which doesn’t protect women or children born through them. The polygamy avoids that.By the way Agniveer should do their thorough research first posting any thing on their forums if they don’t they are not reliable source and better shutdown their site rather spreading false information. Justice in the verse is absolute equality between your wife if you marry more then one.
    Sahih International (Quran Verse 4:3)
    And give to the orphans their properties and do not substitute the defective [of your own] for the good [of theirs]. And do not consume their properties into your own. Indeed, that is ever a great sin.

    Sahih International (Quran Verse 4:4)
    And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the orphan girls, then marry those that please you of [other] women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one or those your right hand possesses. That is more suitable that you may not incline [to injustice].

    Quran Surah (4:129)
    And you will never be able to be equal [in feeling] between wives, even if you should strive [to do so]. So do not incline completely [toward one] and leave another hanging. And if you amend [your affairs] and fear Allah – then indeed, Allah is ever Forgiving and Merciful.

    • says

      Sahih International (Quran Verse 4:4)
      And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the orphan girls, then marry those that please you of [other] women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one or those your right hand possesses. That is more suitable that you may not incline [to injustice].? right… its your verse I am copying pasting…
      If I am interpreting this right…you are allowed to marry if you can do justice to all the ones you marry (4 has been mentioned but 5 has not been prohibited)…so I think as long as a man has this ego that i can handle ‘em all…he has the right to marry any number of times he wants…orphans of course…which means any girl/woman who does not have a family…oh boy you contradicted here yourself…hahahahahaha…..
      WHERE IS IT WRITTEN HERE THAT YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO MARRY MORE THAN ONCE?….please highlight….. oh man you are an idiot…….. I am laughing all my 32 teeth off….
      About the permission part…if a girl’s family is not financially stable…then she can be persuaded by her parents to marry a married man all because they will get (meher) financial help for her……so sometimes a girls alone will cannot withstand family pressure…

      • says

        Lol, I haven’t seen such an argument with no logic or perspective. Your argument is the verses says 4 but doesn’t say 5. You say your Name is Manya but you haven’t said your name is not an Idiot” hence your name is Idiot lol. According to your logic . I haven’t seen a fool like you in my life, Thank You GOD

        • says

          You do not have any explanations left do you? No words left to defend now? Stop wasting space with comments like above and post if you have something valuable or with weight to say….. I pity and am whipping out tears of laughter from my eyes….
          And you still have not answered my question…Are you muslims ready to pass a monogamy law like us hindus or not…but maybe after your long silence on this question in our discussions here, I can guess it…..you do not want to eradicate what wrong you people have been doing, just want to point your fingers at others….

  32. says

    You do not have any explanations left do you? No words left to defend now? Stop wasting space with comments like above and post if you have something valuable or with weight to say….. I pity you and am whipping out tears of laughter from my eyes….
    And you still have not answered my question…Are you muslims ready to pass a monogamy law like us hindus or not…but maybe after your long silence on this question in our discussions here, I can guess it…..you do not want to eradicate what wrong you people have been doing, just want to point your fingers at others….

  33. abdullah-khan.. says

    @Hahaha, please show some seriousness.. y ZN? i am tready to debate with aryasamajis anywhere in india and i am continuously challenging aryasamajis from last 1 year but they havent showed any courage to accept my challenge???? HAHAHAHAHA
    i want to see who are agnivrrs aryasamajis? nd how can they abuse our prophet on agniverr and satyagni?InshALLAH I will teach them good lesson of their life for abusing prophet S.A.W.. aryasamajis of agniveer can u accept my challenge? you believe in such a God who can not create soul and matter? even u believe that vedas is eternal ie another god??? how could u open ur mouth in front of muslims??

  34. abdullah-khan.. says

    @Manya//Are you muslims ready to pass a monogamy law like us hindus or not…but maybe after your long silence on this question in our discussions here, I can guess it…//
    i think that ZN has given u best answer (u can show it to any third person) but i know from my past experience that aryasamajis can never understand and main cause of their bluntness is satyarthprakash (u can read samhullas 13 & 14 to enjoy the best reasoning of the universe ). dear it is hindu marriage act which does not permit polygamy not HINDU religion and we are talking about religion here hope u understand????? show something from ur religious(un-adultrated) scripture that polygamy is not allowed. DO U know how many wives ur deity SHIVA has?? sati,parvati and so on? i think ur deity must be alive then does he follow HINDU marriage act or hindu religion? is he role model to u or not or his life story is also adulterated by muslim intruders..HAHAH
    yes ISLAM allow a man that he can marry more than one upto 4 in certain circumstances because Islam is true and universal religion and every society need polygamy. i personally know more polygynous hhindu than muslim..NOW i am laughing all my 32 teeth off..HAHAHAHA

    • says

      For Lord Shiva I have already given the answer above reagarding that. first read that then ask you idiot…sigh …I will repeat it again for people like you who speak without searching properly…
      You do not have the full knowledge and that is making you a laughing stock here, that is why no one is even bothering to answer you.
      Mother Sati is Adhi Shakti (half part/energy of Lord Shiva – without her Lord Shiva is Incomplete) and she killed herself because of her father’s ego, as he had insulted her husband, she prayed to be born again and again become Lord Shiva’s wife and wished to have a father who was ego less, So she was reborn as Parvati and was united with Lord Shiva.
      These names are the avatars of Mata Sati (Sati and Parvati and so on…) because she had to be separated from Lord Shiva (as she is the energy that flows in the Universe) for creation of the Universe from time time…and she used to reborn again to be united with him…got that?
      None of our Gods have had more than one wife. And as I said we have eradicated the wrong practices in our religion…do you not understand that? It is an offence now in our religion too to have more than one wife (or husband). Those who do it are shunned by our society…so I guess I again have the last laugh…….

    • SDC says

      Gadha Khan, gadhe pehle yeh samajh hum tumhari tarah 1400 saal pehle atke nahi rehte. Vichar samay aur paristithiyon ke saath badalte rehte hain aur vicharon ke sath samaj bhi badelta rahta hain. Isiliye hindu marriage act mein parivartan toh honi hi thi kyun hum badalte samay ke saath badlenge. Lekin tum muslim toh muhammad ke samay mein hi rah jayoge. Ek kaam karna kal se internet ka use mat karna kyunki muhammad ne nahi ki thi, saath mein utth (camel) ki sawari karna, etc. etc. Aur gadhe, Shiva’s consort is Parvati who has many forms if you only care to know. BTW, it would be nice if you care to shed more light on the 11 wives of the your prophet and his harem of sex slaves.

      • HAHAHA says

        Sir, muslims have started Divide and Rule. Look how beautifully one muslim (I guess the same guy Abdulla Khan) comes by the name of Shudra to give a new definition to terrorism. That entire set of comments is in accordance with AIT which is proven false and British who enforced that as caste system have themselves called it a myth. See those comments. You will find that on SRK VIP article. Islam is only religion which supports deception as a tactic to destroy others. It is even given the religious name Al Taqiyya.

  35. abdullah-khan.. says

    @manya, wait wait wait, i have asked u to give reference from UN-adultrated book ie veda that mother sati has done suicide and suicide is allowed in hinduism? when we talk about 36108 wives of krishna (and atleast two legal wives) then u say no no our all books are corrupted and adulterated then you should talk only from veda. now give reference from veda that shiva’s wife has done suicide and for ur kind information Mr. shiva is destroyer he is 1 part of trinity… so y are u confusing us after saying that mata parvati is sustaining this world by her energy?? i have read that vishnu is sustainer… you are group[ of confused peoples u can say anything.
    aryasamajis idol veer shivaji has 8 wives ie..saibai, putli bai, mumbai.etc .(hope no jalebi bai and munni bai hahaha)… now can u tell me that shivaji who has 8 wives how could be aryasamajis hero??????
    veda support polygamy i can give u exaples from veda..

    • says

      Sorry I wrote creation…it is actually destruction…. Mata Shakti helps Lord Shiva in destruction….
      Mother Sati is Adhi Shakti (half part/energy of Lord Shiva – without her Lord Shiva is Incomplete) and she killed herself because of her father’s ego, as he had insulted her husband, she prayed to be born again and again become Lord Shiva’s wife and wished to have a father who was ego less, So she was reborn as Parvati and was united with Lord Shiva.
      These names are the avatars of Mata Sati (Sati and Parvati and so on…each time she was reborn) because she had to be separated from Lord Shiva (as she is the energy that flows in the Universe) for the destruction of the Universe from time time…and she used to reborn again to be united with him…got that?

  36. says

    Sorry I wrote creation…it is actually destruction…. Mata Shakti helps Lord Shiva in destruction….
    Mother Sati is Adhi Shakti (half part/energy of Lord Shiva – without her Lord Shiva is Incomplete) and she killed herself because of her father’s ego, as he had insulted her husband, she prayed to be born again and again become Lord Shiva’s wife and wished to have a father who was ego less, So she was reborn as Parvati and was united with Lord Shiva.
    These names are the avatars of Mata Sati (Sati and Parvati and so on…each time she was reborn) because she had to be separated from Lord Shiva (as she is the energy that flows in the Universe) for the destruction of the Universe from time time…and she used to reborn again to be united with him…got that?
    And about suicide….yes suicide is not allowed….when she was Mata Sati she was in Human form…and was limited by human emotions so took that extreme step…
    What about the question I asked? You still have not answered my question…Are you muslims ready to pass a monogamy law like us hindus or not…but maybe after your long silence on this question in our discussions here, I can guess it…..you do not want to eradicate what wrong you people have been doing, just want to point your fingers at others……

  37. abdullah-khan.. says

    @manya, u havent given any reference for ur nice story from veda so ur answer is not valid because rest of ur books are adulterated by muslim intruders. point is this that if bhavishya puran is adulterated then who is stopping u to throw out those adultrated part from ur books??? are muslims responsible for it?
    if she was human then how could she unite with shiva? is shiva a human?
    regarding ur question that muslims will pass any law for monogamy answer is big NO because islam is true religion and natural religion and humanity require polygamy. there are certain conditions and circumstances when polygamy is required. you can study ur society where u are residing then ull know that how society required polygamy and divorce. we are nothing to intervene in the laws made by GOD. hindu dharma is nothing but some rituals, there is no guidelines for divorce or polygamy(instead u can see examples of polygamy, polyandry and niyog) so hindu society is free to make any law and we have no problem with their laws.
    do u know ur aryasamaj allowed NIYOG? will u pass law to allow NIYOG? can u explain what is niyog?

    • SDC says

      In fact, the hindu society did away with niyog and polygamy keeping in mind the changes that took place in the society with changing times and circumstances. Whether anybody would allow it to happen or not would depend on individual choices and legality of those choices. But the muslim will still like to cling to polygamy and sex slaves because they are ordered by Allah and is natural, is not it Gadha Khan.

    • says

      Why should we throw our Puranas away because of the adulterated versions of them? We know where to find the originals and we will study from there…… The story of Sati & Shiva is a long one…. have you actually read Shiva Purana? You are asking explanations from me? First read it my friend and then if you have any doubts come back and ask. Because I have made 10 c0ments typing again and again.
      And you justify your polygamy by giving reasons of certain conditions and circumstances…then how dare you question us? Why should we justify ourselves to people such as you who do not want to appreciate other religions and their existence?
      Earlier someone had explained that polygamy in India was started by humans only and was prevalent only in Kings because they wanted successors… … but we have abolished it because a woman’s are sentiments are hurt when her place is taken by some one else in the institution of family…got that? We value human emotions and so do our Gods. Do not question our Gods again as I have never. You do not have the right.

  38. abdullah-khan.. says

    @manya. i have come to the conclusion that truth is always bitter, y this hue and cry from ur side? u are in the aryasamajis website and aryasamajis support vedas only so i have asked u to give reference from veda to support ur story. if u talk about puranas then there is bhavishya purana also and no body from ur side will ever accept anything from bhavishya purana. if u talk about other religious scriptures then there are so many things to show polygamy, polyandry, niyog in hinduism. if i am showing polygamy in ur religion then u are not accepting and if u cant accept ur religious scriptures then u can do anything.. no need to discuss.. so cheers.

    • SDC says

      Hey, Gadha Khan, the problem with Manya is that she is overwhelmed right now with the multitudinous philosophies of SD. She cannot make up her mind what to follow and what not to. She would take some time to come to terms with these facts. But you seem to be at ease with the concepts of sexual slavery, polygamy, ghanimah or war booty, rapes, etc. that is enshrined in your religious scriptures. BTW, it is not always about accepting religious scriptures but also taking strong stands against malpractices even if they have been prescribed by some authorities. We must not forget that we have evolved over ages, and this process of evolution continues as long the human race exists. But sadly for the muslims, they have reached a dead end: the Quran. They cannot look beyond it. So, in my opinion, they do not need to be a part of the human race. They need to be ostracized as a group. They should be forced to live in ghettoes in the company of like-minded people. They do not deserve to mingle with the progressive majority of people of other denominations who are eager to question their religious beliefs and make course corrections as and when necessary.

      • says

        @SDC
        I know what path to follow (the path of righteous/dharma) keep my acts and consciousness clean. For that I do not hurt other people and folllow path of humbleness. Worship Lord Shiva & Parvati, the ego destroyer and the mother who is mother of all. But our friend abdullah-khan here does not want to listen to logic and has no tolerance for our religious sentiments so I think we should stop answering him. He is exhausting his mind and our minds too in this infinite loop where we are trying to make him understand but he does not want to.

  39. says

    @abdullah-khan
    Sir the truth is too much bitter for you. Polygamy was not, is not and never will be in Hinduism, that is the truth. True, it was started by us humans (never by our gods) and we have taken steps to stop it. The problem is you want to nullify other religions and prove that your religion is the only religion in the world. You do not have tolerance and acceptance for other religions like we people show and accept. That is why you try and find fault in our and other religions. The hue and cry came from our side only when you hurt our religious sentiments, blaming our Gods, started the discussion above when someone was trying to help people realize what is actually there in our religion. Instead of appreciating that you point fingers at us. I actually do not care now. If you had started this conversation to understand our religion you would have been convinced long back. But it seems you do not want to understand and tolerate, so I am not going to explain anything further to you. Stop posting here. You have lost that right.

  40. abdullah-khan.. says

    @manya, madam i am not here to understand hinduism, it is so confusing every hindu has his own belief about religion, you can do whatever u want ull remain hindu. some believes that veda is eternal like GOD, some believe that veda is only inspiration and anybody can be inspired by God and make new eternal veda. you can see agniverr is inspired by moolshankar and abuse our prophet and Allah. you have full right to follow any religion, you can ask any question on islam but when u start dirty filthy abusive language that is the main problem. i always talk about religion with my hindu friends but they always try to change the topic. whatever perception u want u can have about us but it is our duty to spread the message of islam. you can spread ur religion we have no problem but u can read articles on agniveer full of hatred. agnivrr has written “babri masjid is babri because babar has a sex slave named babari”? can u believe it. every muslim ruler was rapist? if tipu sultan fought with britishers then he has fought for his reign but if jhansi ki rani fought then she was brave patriot an idol for hindus? agnivrr is writting his own history but problem is this we have many peoples visiting this site who blindly believe everything written by agnivrr?
    regarding polygamy in hinduism i am very clearcut that hinduism has no clear guidance regarding polygamy and divorce. when u marry according to hindu you have accepted relation for 7 lives. it is hindu marriage act which allow divorce and prohibit polygamy but there are many examples from hindu sciptures which aryasamajis rejects as interpolation. i have examples from veda but ull rejects on the ground of translation.. i am saying again that u can believe whatever u want but u cant get jannah without accepting islam. choice is urs but pleasedo not abuse Allah and prophet.

  41. abdullah-khan.. says

    @sdc, u have no right to abuse me and change my name. i have not abused u.. i think it is the teachings of moolshankar which u are following.. u can read satyarthprakash for reference..

    • ganesh says

      well , abusing habit was first started by quran by calling us as unclean, worst creature …So we just give the taste of ur own poison..;)…And what Vedic dharma says that we dont need to learn from muslims…

    • Khalid malik says

      Agar Hindu realign me itni sachchai h to aapne unke programo pr bend kyo lga diya hmare yah unke program aana or bund ho Gaye or pndat tumhe bewkuf bna rahe h jada tr pandito ko apne kitabo ke matlab bhi nhi PTA bas ek baat PTA h jitne jada Bhagwan utne jada mandir or jitne jada mandir utni jada income

  42. says

    @abdullah-khan
    Let me say silence on a topic does not mean its acceptance. it means that it was never expected or never seen. So our religion had expected or foreseen something as bad as polygamy or polyandry so nothing was said for it. But when some humans did started it, we made the law. A law for a community cannot be made a law if the society/community does not support it. That is why both the laws punishing polygamy and dowry came because these things were not part of Hinduism and we wanted to punish those who promoted such thought.
    Let me see the link where the agniveer said that stuff about babri masjid, if it is true I will ask them not to accuse other religions. But the fact remains that no where in the article published above by agniveer was your peophet or allah disrespected so you also do not write bad for our Gods.
    But there is also this truth that Muslims have always hurt our sentiments of Hindus. Like ZN and you have done here. Like when the muslim invaders hurt our religious sentiments by destroying so many mandirs and establishing their places of worship in place of them. So that is why we Hindus accuse you. But there is no stopping of you is there? Whatever we do you do not want to show acceptance to us. Then I have only one thing to say to you… go to hell man and live in your own fantasy dream whatever you want to live in. Stop posting here.

  43. Shoeb says

    @agniveer………aap kyun logo ko dhokha dai rahe ho………,aurtoon ki itni hi izzat karni aati unki roz izzat nhi lutti……..,agar unhe buri jagah se bachane ke lia kuch karte hai to usme bura kya hai…….aap itne bhagwaano ki pooja karte ho to plz aap batao ki kahan likha hai vaida main ki tumhe har bhagwaan ki pooja karne chaiye……..ALLAH sirf ek hai.or uska koi shape nahi hai…..aap parlo vaida main , ab jhoot bol kar sabko baikhao nahi.

    • raj.hyd says

      manniy shri shoeb ji, ap kahate hai ki allah ka koi “shape” nahi hai hai koran me anek jagah kaha hgayhai ki allah satve asman me allah hai aur vah ek singhasan par virajman hai ! aur us singhasan ko 8 farishte uthaye huye hai! yani 8 farishte “simit” ,singhasan simit fir vah allah simit kyo nahi hoga aur jo simit ho vaha kaise yah sansar bana sakta hai ? vah sarvshaktiman bhi kaise kaha ja sakta hai?dekhe koran 38/75 jisme korani allah apne “dono hatho” se adam ji ko bananeka dava karte hai ! dekhe koran 39/67 jisme korani allah kayaamaat ke bad asman ko”dayen hath “me lapetne ka dava karte hai ! dekhe koran5/64 jisme korani allah ek yahudi ko javab dene ke liye “apne dono hath khule hone ” ka dava karte hai ! ab batlaye korani allah ka “shape” kyo nahi raha ? kya yah sabut kafi nahi hai !

  44. Shoeb says

    @manya,
    I think u r dreaming…….,sapno se jaago or aankh khol kar truth ko accept karo isse pehle ke dair ho jai………,bakwaas karne se koi faida nahi.

  45. Rahil EX Muslim says

    There are several questions that I have which to my knowledge have not yet been answered by Islam:
    1- If the whole universe (all the stars and planets) were created for the earth then it should surround the earth, but here the earth is surrounding the sun and that surrounds the galaxy. The Quran failed to mention this.
    2- The whole universe was created for humans, the stars at night are used to find your path, etc., but there are billions of planets in the universe. Are they too created for us? What is the use for humans in this?
    3- Allah created all humans from two humans (Adam and Hawwa). Their sons and daughters were sisters and brothers, how could they marry and reproduce among themselves?
    4- Prophet Nooh collected a pair of all the animals on the earth in his Ark. How would it be possible to collect them all? There are still unnamed and unidentified animals on earth. There are also many variety of animals in its own genus, for example; there are more than 200 types of frogs, 300 types of snakes and etc.,
    5- Human and chimpanzee DNA match over 99%, why is it so?
    6- Science has proved that millions of animals lived before the human, why?

    I have left islam for my self respect and for future of my kids as I dont want them to be called terrorists….I feel islam is not for current age and shud be voided.I considering following Buddhism and Hinduism..

    Let me know if any muslim can answer me…

    • neha says

      it is very shocking that u have Islam just because of useless reason ,hindu can convert their reliiong it is okey ,when muslims convert their religion it is very socking , islam the best religion all over the world and Allah only deserve only for worship, go and check the miracle of islam ,islam is only true religion ,have you ever seen the miracle in other religion except islam ,
      you don’t deserve to explain anything about the islam ,because you did not get islam seriously ,u born as a muslim you were lucky ,you left islam ,you are so stupid .

      • raj.hyd says

        adarniy bahan neha ji , islam to buniyadi bhulo ka” bahndar” hai ,”quran mul ki bhul” hai ,kalpit allah kalpit saat asman, kalpit jannat v jahannum , kalpit hure gilme, kapit farishte v jinn , kalpit rasool v nabi kalpit 124000 nabiyo rasulo ki lisht ,batlaiye isme kya sachhai sabit ho sakti hai !
        , kab muslim mahila ko sautan mil jaye kaha nah ja sakta, kab muslim mahila ko teen talaq-talaq- talaq mil jaye kuch naih kaha ja sakta, kab talaq shuda muslim mahila ko “halala” karne ko majbur ho jana pade kuch kaha nahi ja sakta hai !
        isliye jara dhyan se samajhiye aur islam ki koi ek “maulik” achhai batlane ki kripa kijiye ?

        • neha says

          brother raj ,aap ye dailouge kitni bar bolege bore nahi hue bolte bolte ,har jagah yahi bat ,aap he bataye agniveer ji ne jo Quran ke bare mey likha jo ki unki khud ki soch hai aur ham muslim ye bhi jante hai ki wo musalmano se kitna hasad rakhte hai ham us per vishwas kare ,bina kisi proof ke sirf apni bat aur apni soch logo ke samne pesh karne se musalman change nahi ho jayega ,ham bhi ram ji aur krishn ji ke bare me lekhy likhe aur usme hajaar burayi bataye to kya aap yakeen.
          karege ,ye agniveer ji ki apni soch hai jisme satya hai he nahi

          • raj.hyd says

            param vandniy bahan neha ji , jo hamane likha hai uska javab to apne diya nahi hai ! agar ram ji v krishn ji me galtiya hongi usko ham thik karne ki kshamta bhi rakhte hai unke galat vicharo par chalna chod bhi sakte hai.
            lekin kya yahi asha ham apne muslim bahan bhaiyo se kar sakte hai ?
            hamko islam ki buraiya batlane ka koi shauk nahi hai lekin jab ham dekhte hai ki koi muslim apne majahab me sudhar ki gunjaish nahi nikal pata tab ham ko aisa karne ki ichha hoti hai . batlaiye kya koi muslim mahila apne nashebaaj pati ko ek hi svans me talaq- talaq- talaq dekar chutkara pa sakti hai ? lekin ek muslim purush ko apni sidhi sadi muslim mahila ko bhi aisa adhikar avshay hai ! batlaiye koi muslim mahikla kis bhi desh ki pradhan mantri ban sakti hai doctor ban sakti hai profesar ban sakti hai . lekin koi muslim mahiamaulan anahi ban sakti kisi masjid me jakar khutba nahi de sakti fatwa nahi de sakti kya yah islam ke siddhanto ka dohrapan nahi hai?
            “dusre ke saath vahi vayvhaar karo jo apne liye bhi pasand aye ” yahuui sutrhai manvta ka yahsutrkoi samuday koi duniya desh apna sakta hai ! yah sutr kisi samuday ki bapaoti nahi hai !
            param pujy bahan neha ji hame mahasus kiya ki apko hamare vicharo se kuch taklif ho gayi! hamara uddeshy kisi ko taklif dena nahi hai fir bhi apni baat sudhar ke uddeshy se rakhna jarur chahte hai agar jo kaam ham kar rahe hai agar vahi kaam ap bhi kar sake to hamko bahut jyada khushi hogi ! baki apki marji , sabhi ko apne vichar chunne ka pura adhikaar bhi hai , vah galat ho ya sahi bhi !
            ap kisi bhi raste me tarakki kare ram ji, krishn ji, hanuman ji , buddh ji mahavir ji , isa ji muhammad ji , adi se kai guna tarakki kare unse kai guna aapka naam roshan ho ,isse hamko koi taklif nahi hogi ! balki ham iskeliye agrim shubhkamnaye bhi dena chahenge !

      • Arun says

        Neha your English is really poor. But what is worse is what you wrote. It takes a person of great arrogance to write that it is ok when a Hindu converts but it is shocking when a Muslim converts because Islam is the best religion in the world. You are so obnoxious, but I am glad you are here writing your drivel, because it is good for Hindus and Indians of other Dharmic faiths to read for themselves the repulsive arrogant obnoxious mentality of Muslims like yourself.

        Islam is the best – at mass murder of people of all other faiths, all races, nations from Boston MA, to Madrid Spain to Nairobi Kenya, to Mumbai India, to Bangkok Thailand etc… Islam is superb at churning out terrorists in every country in the world. No other religion can compare with that. Yes Islam is the best at death and destruction on a global scale. No other religion comes even close.

        Why Islam is so good at that, well read here http://schnellmann.org/Robert_Spencer_The_Truth_About_Muhammad.pdf

        • neha says

          arjun,shayad aapne sahi kaha my english is so poor ,chaliey iska jawab hindi mey dete hai aapko mujhe samajh me nahi aata ki puriya duniya musalmano ko terrorists kyo kehti hai ,aap bataye America ne Iraq aur afganistan per attack kiya ,aur ab wo siriya per karna chahta hai ,kya ye trriorism nahi hai ,ha agar musalman iska jawab dey to wo terriorist hai ,himmat hai to America ko terrorist keh kar dikhao jo puri duniya me tabahi machaye huey hai ,aur India key log ne na jane kitne muslim ko mara kya wo terririsom nahi hai ,tum log karte ho tou koi bat nahi uska jikr tak nahi aata ,kahi per attack hota hai to bina saboot iljam musalman per daal diya jata hai,chahe wo hindu ka christan ne he kyo na kiya ho

          • raj.hyd says

            param pujy bahan neha ji chaliye ham apki baat ka zavabdene ki ek koshish karte hai!
            kitna achha hota ki apki baat me ek “atmnirikshan” ka darshan hota ! jo nahi mil saka !
            america ne iraq par galat akrman kiya yahbaat saty hai , lekin iske viruddh ladai ka hinsa ka adhikaar ek samany muslim ko hargij nahi diya ja skta hai ! muslim desho ki sarkare kya kar rahi thi vah ekta banakar america se kyo nahi ladne chali gayi ? agar musim janta ko apne desh ki sarkaro se asntosh hai to vahaopne shsako ke viruddh ladaikar sakte hai jaisa siriya me kar rahi hai ! siriya me to america us sashak ke viruddh bhi hai !
            agar america ne galti ki to kya iski saza samany isai samny shiya muslimo ki hatya karke diya jayega !
            amerika afgan me jo yuddh kiya usme to galti nahi thi ! fir bhi afagan shasak kyo nahi kuch karte ?
            kenya ke maal me hatyaye karna pakistan me isaiyo ki hatya karna , iraq me shiya muslimo ki hatya karna kya isko islami atankvad nahi kaha jayega !
            jab naksalvadi hamla karte hai tab muslimo par dosh nahi lagta , jab rep hota hai tab muslimo par dosh nahi lagta ! jab bazaro par bam visfot hote hai tab jarur muslimo par sandeh hota hai baad me vah pakde bhi jate hai isliye sabhi bato ki aap samiksha kare to jyada achha rahega .kisi ka bhi andha virodh aur anadha samarthan kabhi achha nahi kaha jayega !

  46. says

    Shoeb@ Aisha ko 6 sal me buri jagah se bachane k liye Muhhamed ne usase shadi ki . Kya Aisha Bakr k yahan kisi buri jagah thi? Phir apne bete ki bibi se shadi ki. Vo bhi kya kisi buri jagah se bachai gai thi. Saffya k sare khandan ko uske samne hi katl kiya gaya aur phir PBUH ne jabardast usase shadi ki. Kisane kisko bachaya? Jab tum jante ho ki vedas me ek hi Ishwar ki puja karni likhi ha to phie vedic kyon nahi ban jate aur un sabhi hinduon ko samjhate ki kewal ekmev Vedic Ishwar ko pujo.

    • Aslam Khan says

      Jab tum jante ho ki vedas me ek hi Ishwar ki puja karni likhi ha to phie vedic kyon nahi ban jate aur un sabhi hinduon ko samjhate ki kewal ekmev Vedic Ishwar ko pujo.

      GOOD POINT

  47. Aslam Khan says

    All the so called Muslims and Hindus fighting here are idiots with below 100 IQ. All religions are irrelevant in 21st century. Everybody here is quoting selectively and trying to feel superior. Try to a human being instead of trying to be Hindu or Muslim.

  48. Aslam Khan says

    Plus Zakir Naik is an idiot. Yes, Muslims too have idiots like Hindus have. And some them runs a website called Agniveer as Naik runs Peace TV. (Peace however is a misleading name for his channel)

  49. riyasat ahmad khan says

    mene vedo ko to nahi pada par is site ke kuch chepter ko padne k bad me kah sakta hu ki is site k lekho ko likhne wale khud mante he k hindu dharm ki kitabo me insani milawat ho chuki he.

    kuran shareef ko me hindi me pad raha hu aur aabhi tak mene yahi jana he ki isme kisi kism ki milawat nahi hui he

    phale samajh na zaruri he khuda ek he ya bahut sare
    kuran shareef se maloom hota he khuda kewal ek he
    hindu mzhabi kitabo me jahan tak thoda mene pada he dono tarah ki baaten likhi hui he yani ek bhi he aur bahut sare bhi.
    plz aap log agar mera vichar padhe aur jawab dena chahe to shaleen ta se de aur agar meri bato me kahi galti ho gayi ho to maf kare

    • abhi says

      buddy every book on earth is written by humans , so thrs no question of “milavat” , its just how bad the book goes depends on who writes/tells it. so in case of quran’s/islam’s evils , it is directly related to mohammad evils

    • Yash says

      @ Riyasat

      Your decision to read the religious scriptures is appreciated.

      About Hinduism, I can only say it is the only Dynamic religion in this world. A Hindu can worship a formless God or if he finds it is difficult to visualise a formless God, he may select in the form of Krishna or Rama as per his wish. Hinduism is driven by pure logic and for every person, it becomes suitable. It is not guided by an old book which may be full of errors.

      Islam is guided by the holy book which itself has innumerous errors. Please visit http://www.alisina.org or faithfreedom.org and read its articles with patience. These articles may seem awkward initially but read them with patience. Hope you will find yourself in different state of mind!
      Please remember, God is one and obviously he is same for you and me. Then what is the need of conversion. Whercomes society in between. (Please remember, Islam is the only religion which was propageted with sword, why. Guru Teg Bahadur was murdered by Aurangzeb, why?)
      Religion means it is a guide for a humanbeing to get connected to God. A man can connect to God without following any religion also, afterall God is our creator, is like our eternal father. A son does not need a middle man or a holy book to find its father. And, this thought itself is Hinduism!

      There is an ancient example of Valmiki. He did not know any thing but chanted “mara” (reverse is “rama”) and could get God. That is Hinduism.
      Hope I am clear.

  50. Yash says

    The greatness of Hinduism is its openness to changes, openness to scrutiny. Hinduism believes in an omnipresent God. However, there have been many deviations with due course of time and there have been great persons like Shankaracharys, Buddha, Mahavir, Ramanand, Vivekanand who brougt the light before the massess.
    This way Hinduism can be reverred as the only DYNAMIC religion.
    This dynamism is totally missing with Islam and today it is the sole producers of terrorists worldwide. There are scholars on websites like http://www.faithfreedom.org and http://www.alisina.org who dissect Islam.

  51. Yash says

    There could be instances of polygamy in ancient Hindu elite class, however it is true that Shree Ram, who is known as “Maryada Purushottam” i.e, who put the Hindu philosophy in the right earnest had one wife only .
    “Yatra naryah pujyante tatra ramante devta” is the theme of Hinduism. However due to foreign invasions, some impurites got into the Hindu society which is being rectified these days.

    However, to understand condition of women in the muslim society, it is better to read http://www.alisina.org.

  52. Yash says

    The greatness of Hinduism is its openness to changes, openness to scrutiny. Hinduism believes in an omnipresent God. However, there have been many deviations with due course of time and there have been great persons like Shankaracharys, Buddha, Mahavir, Ramanand, Vivekanand who brougt the light before the massess.
    This way Hinduism can be reverred as the only DYNAMIC religion.
    This dynamism is totally missing with Islam and today it is the sole producers of terrorists worldwide. There are scholars on websites like http://www.faithfreedom.org and http://www.alisina.org who dissect Islam.

  53. Yash says

    The greatness of Hinduism is its openness to changes, openness to scrutiny. Hinduism believes in an omnipresent God. However, there have been many deviations with due course of time and there have been great persons like Shankaracharys, Buddha, Mahavir, Ramanand, Vivekanand who brougt the light before the massess.
    This way Hinduism can be reverred as the only DYNAMIC religion.
    This dynamism is totally missing with Islam and today it is the sole producers of terrorists worldwide. There are scholars on websites like http://www.alisina.org who dissect Islam

  54. Salim Khan says

    @Yash
    Islam is only true religion. Islam is perfect in all respect. Hinduism requires to change because it is not perfect like Islam. Why Islam is perfect religion, because it is directly from Allah. Prophet Mohammed (SAW) was messenger who brought Islam to mankind. I am sure the day is not far when Islam will be in every house.

    • Yash says

      @Salim
      If any religion claims it to be the only true religion, it should be open to scrutiny and should not shy away from discussions. You will agree Islam always avoided debates and turned violent to avoid such discussions.
      Islam is against idolatory, fine, but what about Kaba black stone.
      There is one God, fine, but why a man named Muhammad in between God and man?
      Why to worship mazars?
      Earth is flat, is held fast by mountains, God lives on the seventh heaven— the list goes on.
      After all Talibans also claim to be true muslims, isn’t it?
      Please refer faithfreedom.org for better knowlegde on Islam.

      • Salim Khan says

        @Yash
        __________but what about Kaba black stone_____
        Kaaba is center of universe. Science has not developed enough to track the center of universe but Quran gives hints of it.
        ________but why a man named Muhammad in between God and man________
        Mohammed brought the massage of God to mankind.
        _____After all Talibans also claim to be true muslims____
        Anyone who worship Allah, believe in Quran, day of judgment and prophet is true Muslim.Islam is open for all taliban, Hindu, Cristian etc.

        • Yash says

          @Salim

          Earth is round and it is proven. Had it been circular, we could have thought of a centre on the surface. Kaba is on earth’s surface, and as such logically it can not be the centre of earth even.

          Any way worshipping the black stone is idolatory!
          God’s message, it is claimed, was revealed to Muhammad through angels. So why worship Muhammad only. Why not those angels also?
          It is heartening to hear from you Islam is open to all, if this is the message, why so much blood shed over the past 1400 years on the name of conversions. Ever heard Guru Teg Bahadur and the reason of his murder by Aurangzeb?

  55. anti-agni says

    @yash, 1400 years ago saudi was in center to spread the message because there were no america or Australia . if you see the map makkah is in centre if you exclude sea and Australia and America . Salim sb said that kabaa is the centre of universe and you started wid round and circular earth???? why you peoples. change and repeat the. words?

    Who worship blak stone? Haven’t you read previous comments? even i have posted one answer three days ago. facing kaba or blak stone isnot worship. in this wway you will become solar system worshipper because you have to face either earth or heaven when you worship .

    • Yash says

      @anti-agni
      Dear
      You will agree scientifically, Kaba is not centre of earth even. Even a 5th class student will agree with this. I do not need to prove your statement of Kaba being the centre of universe is wrong.
      So far as knowledge is concerned, Indians should be proud that in the ancient time, till the islamic invasion, India was the centre of knowledge. Nalanda and Taxila were the only international university and they were not in Kaba but in India.
      And do you know who destroyed these universities?

      Regarding one God and idolatory.
      The black stone is reverred by muslims and there is no doubt. You will deny, others will insist, it is idolatory. Further, you have seen muslims worshipping at mazars. The funda of one God is missing?
      You also worship Muhammad. Why not Gabriel, the angel who revealed Kuran to Muhammad? In the chain between God and Muhammad, he was the most critical link, isn’t it. Well, by worshipping Muhammad, you do not follow one God philosophy.
      There are many verses in Kuran which command to kill the unbelievers. This is too much.
      If God is one and the creators of the universe, each human being is his son/daughter. And the command of infighting is not justified. However, Talibans and other terrorists act on them.
      Punishing any one or rewarding any one is the job of God who is the creator and not of the Jehadis.
      Could you explain me why muslims are killing innocent peole worldwide on the name of religion.
      Is it religion or is terrorism?
      And there are people who say jehadis do not understand islam. Fine, why not all the muslim clerics debunk such jehadis, why they are afraid? Their silence is their approval!
      Just think and think and if you have got the courage to find the truth, just visit http://www.alisina.org

      Thanks

  56. anti-agni says

    @yash. i think you are very much impressee by alusina?? Do you think it is right to understand a religion or book from it’s enemy??

    you can find all answers on answering-islam.com and .

    after worshipping rama krishna’s idols will. you be still worshipper of formless God?? Amazing..

  57. Yash says

    @anti-agni
    You believe God is one , we also. He is omnipresent, omni potent. To learn more, please ask Agniveer on this site.
    Well, if God is one and has created all, that means God is the eternal father. How any one (Ali Sina) can become his enemy, you mean some one is the enemy of the creator it self. It makes us to laugh as if God were a king who has many enemies like Hindus, Ali Sina etc–.
    Your God and our God can not be different because God is omnipotent and Omnipresent. However, if your God is afraid of some enemise like Hindus, then your very thought process is flawed. You need to correct it.
    Ali Sina has read the Islamic scriptures more than many but his strength is his honesty. He is not the enemy of the God (can not be), but he debunks the illogical and baseless arguments which many have made their business for hundreds of years.

    • Salim Khan says

      @Yash
      According to Islam God is not omnipresent, God is above the heavens. Ali Sina is atheist . He is against Quran and Allah. Ali Sina compares marriage with sex. He call sexual desire pedophile. According to him prophet (SAW) has disease called pedophile (Desire to sex with child). Do you have pedophile if your want to sex with your wife. Ali Sina is too ignorant.

  58. Yash says

    @ Salim
    Sun is much much larger than earth. And there are millions of stars bigger than Sun. And all these are part of the universe. Above the earth there is atmosphere which extends for a few kilometers and then there is vacuum. On these principles rockets have been sent to moon, mars etc.
    If you can imagine universe, you will understand there is nothing like seventh sky or heaven! It is mere imagination. Had it been there, astrologers must have discovered it and the Americans would have sent their rocket there too!
    Regarding Ali Sina, he speaks with conviction on his knowledge and research.
    I know, he has put certain allegations on the prophet but it is shocking no muslim scholar could prove even one of his allegations wrong.
    He sent many invitations to Zakir Naik for debate but Naik shyed away!

  59. anti-agni says

    @yash. Why you twists the wird all the time? i said he is enemy of islam. if your father said to you not to abuse his friend or follow his guidelines and you all the time oppose him and make a mockery to his words then still you should say that he must love you?

    islam is way of life and not only pooja path. it gives you guidance for society rules . can you reject laws made by Indian government if you are Indian? if you do so you’ll be treated as enemy of government .

    According to islam whenever you call Allah you’ll find Him near to you.

    • Slave of Prophet says

      @anti-agni
      Brother, these Hindu are worst of creature. They are no-believer in Jinns, Prophet, angles. They do insult of God by assuming God Omani-present. Their God lives in pig, latrine also. We are to fight with non-believers in prophet until they accept Islam as it is divine order to us. Prophet had many wives that is because he fought hundred of wars and killed the people who were non-believer in him. But prophet was merciful enough he did not kill the wives of non-believers and granted them status of his wives/slaves. Islam is a way of life. Bowing before Kaaba is just a sign of union among Muslim.

    • Jay Arya(hinduagnostic) says

      Islam is not way of life it is political ideology it is a religion and no if you dont follow the government your not an enemy but if you kill the government or its leaders then you become an enemy and anti agni universe is expanding and the quran does not say this also can you tell me why jesus was only for children for israel and muhammed for whole earth?

  60. Salim Khan says

    @Yash
    Ali Sina do written debates. Zakir naik do live debates. If Ali Sina to much scholar why not he preaches his ideology by addressing the live audience as Zakir Naik do.

    • Jay Arya(hinduagnostic) says

      ali sina is apostate of islam he cant show his face or he will be killed by fantic muslims many muslims are leaving islam but your muslim channels and imams dont show you that but they like to show non muslim who convert to islam

  61. anti-agni says

    @yash. have you seen hell or paradise? if universe is expanding how could you deny any centre?

    We do not worship prophet muhammad and grave worship is haram. we. say he is messanger of Allah . humanity require messangers. he has practically established a society based on Islamic principles . if you reject any need. of messanger then i can’t help you.

    ali Sinai is a weird mentality person. if you have faith on him then follow him.

  62. Islam not for non-Arab says

    @anti-agni
    Brother, Islam not for you they why are following Islam.
    And if WE had sent it down to one of the non-Arabs, and he had read it to them, they would never have believed in it.

    Just as Arabs have no reason to believe in a book written in a non-Arab language, non-Arabs have no reason to believe in a book written in Arabic. That is why Allah sends a messenger to each people in their own language so they understand. That makes perfect sense.

    To make sure there is no misunderstanding the Quran 5:19 reiterates:

    O People of the Book, there indeed has come to you Our Messenger, after a break in the series of Messengers, who makes things clear to you lest you should say, `There has come to us no bearer of glad tidings and no Warner.’ So a bearer of glad tidings and a warner has indeed come to you. And ALLAH has power over all things.

    According to the Quran all people have received a revelation. The above verse says the Quran is for those who never received a revelation, lest they should say, `There has come to us no bearer of glad tidings and no Warner’.

    This matter is clear, but Allah wants it to be clear even to the dumbest of people. He names the exact geographic location for which Muhammad was sent.

    Q. 6:92
    And this is a Book which WE have revealed, full of blessings, to fulfill that which preceded it, and to enable thee to warn the Mother of towns and those around it. أُمَّ الْقُرَى وَمَنْ حَوْلَهَا

    The mother of towns, Umul Qura, is Mecca. This verse says Islam was sent to warn Mecca and its surrounding حَوْلَهَا. How can it be for all mankind?
    http://alisina.org/blog/2012/06/28/is-islam-for-all-mankind/

  63. anti-agni says

    @false slave. you always play a good role of real aryasamaji by deceiving . You can’t defend your faith by your name.
    you never find anything worthy to preach in veda.just search your dhams and you’ll find meat and alcohol on every hotel dhabba. .

  64. Slave of Prophet says

    @anti-agn
    Brother Arabs made the fool of non-Arab people by saying Islam religion of all people. I am also victim of them. But when we read Quran we find Islam only for Arabs. As it proves from these verse of Quran. It is clear from these verses Islam not for non-arbas.
    26: 198-199
    And if WE had sent it down to one of the non-Arabs, and he had read it to them, they would never have believed in it.

    Just as Arabs have no reason to believe in a book written in a non-Arab language, non-Arabs have no reason to believe in a book written in Arabic. That is why Allah sends a messenger to each people in their own language so they understand. That makes perfect sense.

    To make sure there is no misunderstanding the Quran 5:19 reiterates:

    O People of the Book, there indeed has come to you Our Messenger, after a break in the series of Messengers, who makes things clear to you lest you should say, `There has come to us no bearer of glad tidings and no Warner.’ So a bearer of glad tidings and a warner has indeed come to you. And ALLAH has power over all things.

    According to the Quran all people have received a revelation. The above verse says the Quran is for those who never received a revelation, lest they should say, `There has come to us no bearer of glad tidings and no Warner’.

    This matter is clear, but Allah wants it to be clear even to the dumbest of people. He names the exact geographic location for which Muhammad was sent.

    Q. 6:92
    And this is a Book which WE have revealed, full of blessings, to fulfill that which preceded it, and to enable thee to warn the Mother of towns and those around it. أُمَّ الْقُرَى وَمَنْ حَوْلَهَا

    The mother of towns, Umul Qura, is Mecca. This verse says Islam was sent to warn Mecca and its surrounding حَوْلَهَا. How can it be for all mankind?
    http://alisina.org/blog/2012/06/28/is-islam-for-all-mankind/

  65. anti-agni says

    @false slave /real aryasamaji. obviously Arabs were first receiver so Quran must be in. arabic and after understanding they have taught to others. if it was in Sanskrit then how could they understand? so revelation must be in the language of first/primary receiver. you can learn arabic.
    you can say that why you are not messanger at first place?

    Revelation must be in the language of primary receiver .

    • Slave of Prophet says

      @anti-agni
      You are too dumb can not understand simple things.
      Question is here Quran is only for Arabs. Allah was aware if he would send Quran in English, Hindi, Chines etc Arabs would not believe in it (Allah was concerned only for Arabs) then how non-arabs can believe in Quran if Quran was not sent in their language. As Arabs can say we would not believe in Quran if it had been in foreign language and then non-Arab also can say they will not believe in Quran because it is in foreign language.
      And Quran itself proves it is only for Arabs not for non-arbabs. Look the verses
      Q. 6:92
      And this is a Book which WE have revealed, full of blessings, to fulfill that which preceded it, and to enable thee to warn the Mother of towns and those around it. أُمَّ الْقُرَى وَمَنْ حَوْلَهَا
      The mother of towns, Umul Qura, is Mecca. This verse says Islam was sent to warn Mecca and its surrounding حَوْلَهَا. How can it be for all mankind?
      Now this point is clear even to the dumbest of people, But Allah knows some people are really stupid and he wants to make this matter clear even to them. So he repeats the same thing in verse 42:7
      Thus have WE revealed to you the Qur’an in Arabic, that you may warn the Mother of towns, and all those around it.

      • anti-agni says

        @fake slave/real aryasamadhi. actually you are so why you can’t understand simple things and cant declare your identity .

        can you show me any ayat starting as ya ayyuahal arab…ie o peoples of arab?? You can find manty ayat. ya ayyuhal insaan ie o mankind. and still your foolish filthy mentality is thinking that Quran is only for Arabs???

        those ayat you are showing are to tell that primary receiver are arab so it isin Arabic. If Quran whose primary receiver were Arabs and messanger was Arabic was sent at that time to non Arabs then how could they understand? they have to learn arabic.

        Arabs who were mushrik were saying that if Muhammad s.a.w is really receiving Quran from Allah then he must bring in any other language which is not his mother tongue….but Allah said that it isin Arabic because you ie primary receiver are Arabs .

        you have already rejected then why are you wasting our time??? But u must show ayat addressing as o Arabs. because after all Quran is only Arabs .

        • Slave of Prophet says

          @anti-agni
          I am slave of prophet Hanuman.
          You hate monger, slave of arabs are too dumb can not understand simple things.
          ____showing are to tell that primary receiver are arab so it isin Arabic___
          Are u mad? Quran is book of clear instruction as per Allah (5:15). Verses 6.92 & 42.7 clearly saying clearly saying Quran for the people of Mecca and its around.
          verse 42:7
          “Thus have WE revealed to you the Qur’an in Arabic, that you may warn the Mother of towns, and all those around it.”

          If Quran would have been for all mankind allah would have said “Thus have WE revealed to you the Qur’an in Arabic, that you may warn the all people of universe.” instead of people of Mecca and its around.

          These verses also clearly says that Quran is only Arabs because they did not got prophet & instruction before Mohammed.
          Q. 32:3
          It [the Quran] is the truth from your Lord; that you [Muhammad] may warn a people to whom no Warner has come before you, that they may be guided.
          Q. 6: 156- 157 explain,
          Lest you should say, `The Book was sent down only to two peoples before us, (Jews and Christians) and we were indeed unaware of what they read.

  66. Yash says

    @ Salim
    You will agree this is the era of information technology. It enables people to discuss the issue which were previously forbidden without any fear.
    You may be aware it is the practice in islam to silence its critics. Ali Sina had to leave Iran to escape such jehadis.
    He has defeated many so called islamic scholars through debates using IT. And as expected people are after his life. This is the only reason Ali Sina avoids live debate.
    Any way, if Zakir Naik has any little bit of knowledge, he must debate with Ali Sina to falsify his allegations, after all thousands visit Ali Sina’s sites daily. It is a disgrace to Islamic scholars that Ali Sina has not yet been defeated.

    • Salim Khan : Invitation to all muslim brothers says

      @anti-agni
      Brother, anti-agni I invite you & All Muslim brothers to come at http://alisina.org/ as it is duty of all true Muslim to refute the all allegation made on our prophet, Quran, & Islam. Ali Sina is much big danger right now than agniveer. He has all articles on Islam. Agniveer articles on Islam just a drop of water in the sea before Ali Sina. I think we should not waste time here. I am going to refute ali sina. His fan following also much greater than agniveer & he is international critics of Islam.

      • Jay Arya(hinduagnostic) says

        yes i agree there are many more anti islam sites that attack islam more than agniveer does you muslims should try refute them then come here to show your angry

  67. anti-agni says

    @salim. answeringislam.org and faith freedom like snakes are there. i have problem with aryasamadhis. answeringislam.org has on his website that Muslims have answered some points but i will not delete my false charges.

    if you are Indian then you must know that aryasamadhis spreading hatred against muslims through out india. we have to counter on every field including taking help of government because we have contribution in Indian government and we are citizen of india.

    Christians can’t answer to sheikh deedat. alisins followers are mostly christ.

    agniveersamajis are real threat for Indian democracy and harmony. we have keep on eye on its articles and keep government informed about their hate mongering .

    i have challenged to ali sina many times but problem is this that he denies everything ..every book then on which basis we debate?

    I have not seen hell or paradise then i can prove only logically and if anyone don’t want to accept logic then how could i debate.

    • Salim Khan says

      @anti-agni
      Whaever agniveersamaji like sanatan dharma, yash, jay arays(hinduagnotistic) and others writing against Islam, Quran and prophet acutally it is all stuff they got from Ali Sina. They have not read Quran and did any kind of research. They using Ali Sina material to trash the Islam.

      • Ankur says

        That is called knowledge sharing, no body want to re- invent the wheel.
        BTW where does Ali sina get the materiel from ever wondered? I will tell your Q’uran and Sahi Hadidths

      • Jay Arya(hinduagnostic) says

        hello salim khan om shanti i cant speak for all hindus but i have read quran and hadiths and anything from anti muslims that i have seen i try to confirm by reading the hadith and quran to see what they is true from islamic scholors and i have read the bible and to be honest both the books have few good things just like all religions but it also had bad things if i had to compare muhammed with jesus i say jesus ws better there are two things i like about muhammed and that is he removed female foeticide and said to respect your parents but other beliefs are said this was wrong before muhammed

    • Jay Arya(hinduagnostic) says

      hello anti agni can you show me where answering islam admins said ‘muslim have answered some of his questions but he will not delete his false charges’ any charges that have been answered have been deleted and admited by the admins as wrong all the articles still on the site are updated and still have not been answered properly now you muslims are blaming arya samaj because you are afraid of us the muslims scholors and preachers have beeen scared of arya samaj for the last 125 years because they know millions of muslims have converted back to ancesteral belief through arya samaj you muslims and christian missionaries started attacking hinduism to get convert and show islam/christianity as superior the problem is hindus allowed that to happen and when ali sina started 10 years he had debates with all muslims now that he is famous and refuted many muslims now he only has debates with scholors

  68. Yash says

    @ Salim/ anti-agni

    Guru Teg Bagadur and two of his desciples were tortured and mudered by Aurangzeb. At that place, there is Gurudwara Shish Ganj.

    They refused to convert. Why Aurangzeb murdered them, if your religion is a religion of peace?

  69. Yash says

    The real threat to India are people who wish to see India converted to Dar-ul-Islam in next 5 years. India retained its glory for thousands of years, depite the ruthless barbars Gori/Timur/Babur/Aurangzeb, what these paid stooges are doing is just day dreaming.
    In fact they hate any body who shows them the mirror! This is their real problem.
    Ali Sina is not a problem rather terrorism coming out of Islam is the real threat to Islam.
    Most of the Indians believed in iswar-allah tero naam till last few years. However with terrorism on the rise by muslim fanatics, Indians started exploring it. There came the relation between terror and Islam and it has become more and more visible to people.
    Muslims need to blame people like Osama who has exposed Islam, not AliSina.

    • Jay Arya(hinduagnostic) says

      yes your right and i do think if hindus dont do something about it india will become a muslim country just like iran and egypt which completely destroyed their countries from the great they were in the past already islam has started t influence india through bollywood,taj mahal and muslim channels like peace tv

  70. Praveen says

    @ Jay Arya

    We need to expose them.
    In fact greatest challange to Islam is education. When these illeterates will get some light of knowledge, they will themselves shed the fallacies of the holy book.

    Just see, their Arabic scholars and muftis who know Koran and Arabic much much better than Zakir Naik, claim the earth is flat and mountains are peggs. People saying the earth is round are infidels.
    However, the great liar Zakir Naik is twisting the Koranic explanation by saying the earth is round as per Koran.

    This bunch of lie is not going to last long!

    • Jay Arya(hinduagnostic) says

      no im not radical im against fantics who spread lies about hinduism and now many hindus like agniveer have refuted their claims there is no revealed science in quran even if there was it doesnt mean it came from god

  71. says

    इरफान आप पढे लिखे हो समझ सकते
    हो कि एकमात्र सनातन हिन्दू धर्म ही है
    जो इस सनातन आर्य धरा पर अक्षुण्ण
    बनी रहेगी ।

    हाँ… एकोऽहं द्वितीयो नास्ति वाली उक्ति
    कहती हैं कि सभी एक ही ईश्वर की सन्तान
    हैं और वह परमपिता है ओउम् ”ॐ” ।

    और हाँ श्रीराम हमारे पुरुषोत्तम सनातनी
    आर्य थे और रहेंगें ।

    जय जय श्रीराम

    इरफान ”वेदों की ओर लौटो”

    जय श्रीराम
    ॐ!

  72. Madhu says

    Jai Shree Krishna!

    Dhanayaad agniveer ji…..aap ke lekh se hamko satya ka maarg dhoondne me sahayata hoti hain!

    Tasmo maa jyotir gamaya!
    Hey Ishwar….Andhkaar se hame prakash ki aur le chalo!

  73. sanatan chandra says

    I have gone through all the comments. but I’ve seen a person named shiv bhagat… who is converted into Muslim. are Jo apne dharam ko 19 ya 20 sail main nahi samajh saka to woh kya 3 ghante ke bhashan main dusre dharam ko samjhega. let him go. kyounki uska ant nikat hai isiliye woh sabhya samaj se ek asabhya samaj ki oor jaa raha hai…. Jaise ravan ka pata hua tha vaise hi inka bhi hoga……

  74. krishna says

    ” dharmo ev hto hanti,dharmo raksate rakseta.” dahrm he humare raksa krta h..ye upar bhit sunder post h lekn yhan to kese ko bat kuch samjhae jare or koi samjh kuch or he rha…yhan ram or rahem ke charcha nhe the.yhan dharm kon sa bda h uske charcha nhe the.yhan serf etna samjhna k hum ek patni ka vart he jewan me dharn krege..bas bat khtam..eswar ek he h.na koi bda na chota” eko hum bhu syama” wo ek se anek bna.sabka malek ek..qun khud ko bda dekha rhe ho.mai snatan dharm ko manta hun.or jo bda hota wo he jhukta…krishn ne kha.” sarw dharman pare tyjeya,ma mekam sarnam brja” or maine ek krishn ko apna leya..ab bat bas etne h ke jo go mata k leye kuch bhe galt khega ..mere krishn ke leye bhe kuch bhe ulta sedha khega.mere dharm or hindu rastr k leye kuch ulta khega..ya enme se kese k leye bhe galt kha to.use uska parenam krishn dega..or ek hindu dega..jai gao mata ..jai bhart mata..samjh lena nhe to samjha denge.” parittra nay sadhu nam,vina saay ch dus kretam. dharm sansthap nartha ya,sam bhwami yuge yuge” ..

  75. jalwan says

    as you sow so shall you reap . love others to be loved . no use of boiling the basin kadhi . request to forgive for mistake committed to win hearts .know india’s/ jambu dweep’s history respect/regard live n let live justice n equality must be motto to revive hindusm .do not make fool of others n blame .u remember mirabai u do not her GURU raidas .u know BAPU u don’t THE GREATEST INDIAN BABA SAHEB . u boast of urself u r great grand father n feel others low while others feel u as low . some say proud of rajput/rajputana/rajastan which words were born 1000years back.only . nisad/malla/chamar/koli/jat/ahir/meena/so on were rajas sowhat all to work to feed family . god’s 6th avtar killed akshtriy that too 21 times as they were of high rank .prithviraj won 16 times lost 17th time 1192 at age of32 years after 1 year of his 8th marrige with his casin sayogita gori killed him n muslim kingdom established in india .well u must be knwing no. of wife maharaja of patiala had in 1947.what was fate of sudra rishi by ur hero RAMA king of bayana banasur king jallandhar by krisn n visnu respectively .hindus have to clean themselves from the caste stigma and burning billions of $ every year on fastival to use that for poor.

  76. says

    ye sahi h ki yogiraj shri krishan ki 16000 patraniya mani jati h.or ye purnd satya h ki unki sirf 1 hi patni thi…kyoki us kal main esi pirtha thi ki samaj esi nariyo ko samman nahi deta tha jo kisi ki kaid main ,ya paraye purush ke pass rahi ho . jaisa ramayan kal main seeta ka virodh kiya gaya tha . jab bhagwan ne vo nari kaid se mukt karayi to unhone puchha ki ve ab kanha jaye ,to krishna ne unke parivaro main vapas jane ke liye bola .tab unhone kaha ki ab ve hame svikar nahi karenge to ab hum kanha rahe. Bhagwan ne kaha to mere sath chalo, es par riha hui nario ne kaha ki aapka yehi bada ehsan h ki aapne hume kaid se mukt kara diya ab sevika bankar to hum kanhi bhi gujara kar lenge, tab bhagwan ne kaha ki tume sevikao ka nahi patraniyo ka darja pirapt hoga , tume vah har man -samman diya jayega jo patrani ko pirapt h . lekin murkh logo ne ese sambhog ki dirsti se patrania parcharit kar ese dayalu iswar ko badnam kiya h , jo puri tarh mithya h. NOTE-krishna ke raj main 1 bhi dashi nahi thi

  77. sbj says

    jai bajrangbali To tum hame ved sikha rahe ho. Tumhe urdu to thik se aati nahi hai chale sanskrit padne.apne andhar dekho tum kanha the aur kanha ho.islam galat nahi hai use manne wale galat hai.tumne islam ke rules ke matlab apne fayade ke liye badal diye hain.pahle kuran thik se padho phir bat karna.rahi bat shree krishan ki shadi ki to jinke bare main tum kuch nahi jante unki liye aise soch sharam aani chahiye.abe ye wahi hain jinko hindu sakar roop main mante hain aur islam nirakar main.yeh baat yaad rakhna.jai bajrang bali

    • raj.hyd says

      kuran to mul ki bhul hai , kuran n ebahut si galat bate sikhlaai hai shayad apne thik se kuran nahi padhi hai kuran hinsa ke adesh deti hai !

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