Next Steps for Social Equality

This is third part of series on Quota for Muslims and Christians. For previous part, visit here.

Why this sudden demand?

And that is why we sincerely don’t understand what made Sri Ramdevji come up with such an anti-national demand out of blue. We cannot accept the excuse that so far he never knew about this issue. The Dalit Christian reservation issue has been making headlines for past 20 years and the last 2 years have seen Muslim reservation issue making headlines and finally getting 4.5% of OBC quota. A person leading such important socio-economic movements cannot excuse himself with ignorance on such critical issue. Because if that be so, there is even more serious concern regarding competence of Bharat Swabhiman Trust (BST) movement even if the intent is right. Or perhaps some deeper conspiracies may be going on where even the prominent noble people are merely ignorant puppets whose strings have more devious controls. In fact, if you go by his letter of explanation sent to us, it seems to be written from a completely different person than one addressing the Muslims in the video where he resolves to take the demand of Dalit Muslim reservations to streets.

Sri Ramdevji must urgently address the concerns raised and issue a detailed clarification for this anti-national stand. We have high hopes from him and do believe that as a Sanyasi he would demonstrate his valor by rising above ego to accept his folly and work for larger interests of the nation. Everyone can make mistakes. But legends gracefully admit them and surge ahead.

 

Next Steps

We know that Sri Ramdevji is sincere about supporting the Dalits. So let us join hands for some concrete affirmative actions. Dalits need respect more than jobs. Let us make respectable Brahmins out of them. Let us make Vedic scholars out of them who break all barriers of casteism. After all casteism was the reason they converted in first place.

It does not matter if one is Hindu, Muslim or Christian. It does not matter if one is Dalit or not. The popular perception is that only high-caste Brahmins had access to chanting Vedas and this caused inequality. Let us work to break this from root by promoting Vedas among all religions and societies. That is what Agniveer is doing and appeals to Sri Ramdevji to take this cause as top-priority. As we have promised, we shall support it with tan-man and dhan (Efforts, Passion and Funds). 

Let there be schools, colleges, hospitals, vocational centers in these deprived regions which cater to people from all religions. Also let Sri Ramdevji carry out the5 points mentioned earlier in the article immediately – Conservative (Dalit) Muslims in investments, leadership, communication, fooding and personal security.

That indeed would be the ideal way to bring changes in lives of these brothers and sisters. And set the right examples in society.

Lets bring that change immediately. And as first step to that, let us oppose this dangerous demand of inclusion of (Dalit) Muslims and Christians in SC/ST because we love our nation, and its people from all religions.

Let Sri Ramdevji also lead the movement for Uniform Common Civil Code for all Indians irrespective of religion to promote unity and solidarity. We vow to be fully with him in this noble mission. Such movements in our opinion are even more critical than movement against corruption because they wipe off the very source of corruption – appeasement.

In parallel to that, let us also support BST and Sri Ramdevji in their implementation the 5 points raised earlier. (And we promise to support by tan-man-dhan)

And even before that, let us stop use of word ‘Dalit’. ‘Dalit’ means one trampled by feet. It is a derogatory usage insulting our own brothers and sisters. Its usage should be banned. Call them SC/ST as defined in law or call them disadvantaged sections. But never call our own family members ‘Dalit’ or trampled, or else destiny shall trample us, just as it trampled our great nation into misery and darkness! 

One Nation, One Humanity, Zero Tolerance for those who divide and convert!

PS: Before we end, as a last note, we would strongly urge Sri Ramdevji to share with us the version/ translation of Holy Quran that inspired him to uphold it as a noble text at par with Vedas and Upanishads. We would love to share that Holy Quran version/ translation publicly to be an agent of glorification of that Islam which promotes ‘justice’ in words of Sri Ramdevji.

 

Summary of 5 point agenda that Sri Ramdevji and all advocates of (Dalit) Muslims (and Muslims in general) should immediately announce and implement to set right examples and assure that they are not for appeasement but are serious about their ideology:

1. 75% of fund allocation of associated organizations only in Dalit and Muslim areas to elevate status from ground level.

2. Significant proportion of (Dalit) Muslims in think-tank and senior leadership of all organizations to showcase them as intellectual and loyal heroes.

3. All communication and magazines be fully managed by (Dalit) Muslims or Muslims in general to showcase them as intellectual confidants who can handle sensitive responsibilities.

4. Entire canteen, food and kitchen management be done by (Dalit) Muslims to destroy roots of untouchability.

5. All personal and organizational security be provided only by those who come as conservative Muslims in front of camera (having beard, Namaz mark of forehead etc) to portray the right image of Muslims as protectors.

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  1. says

    It appears that Swami Ramdev lacks good advisors. It was borne out during the fasting drawn which was crushed out by Govt. Besides govt, Swamiji also was fined by the Court. There is big vacuum of advisors after the death of Rajiv Dixit who would not have allowed this type of nonsense. By the way Dr Subramian swamy also appears to be close to Swami Ramdev as both of them have shared common platforms on many occasions. But Dr Swamy is a sincere patriot and brought in the mould of Savarkar as evident by his dare devil approach to end the terrorism and of late he is close to VHP ranks also. Had Swami Ramdev cared to consult Dr Swami in these matters of sensitive nature , I am sure the former would have been snubbed. I request this article to be endorsed to Dr Swami also who I believe put some sense in the confused head of Swamiji.

  2. Gurudev says

    Apart from the implementation of the uniform civil code the government must be made to stop giving all financial support to minority institutions which is . It is disgraceful that these institutions reserve seats on the basis of religion after taking support from the govrnment. In a secular all religions are considered equal, then why are some being given benefits which are denied to others? What is the mo5tive behind the government opening 2 new campuses of Aligarh Muslim university in Keral and West Bengal. All institutions should be delinked from religion.

  3. says

    Agniveer Demands–>

    Summary of 5 point agenda that Sri Ramdevji and all advocates of (Dalit) Muslims (and Muslims in general) should immediately announce and implement to set right examples and assure that they are not for appeasement but are serious about their ideology:

    1. 75% of fund allocation of associated organizations only in Dalit and Muslim areas to elevate status from ground level.

    PYPT Reply–>Patanjali funds are 90% allocated in Dalit areas only, please visit different villages across India. Whoever has written this Article seems to be sitting in room and does not have actual wisdom of Patanjali Operations. Sales of Product to rich class is directly funded to villages, many members have taken villages and supporting them.

    2. Significant proportion of (Dalit) Muslims in think-tank and senior leadership of all organizations to showcase them as intellectual and loyal heroes.

    PYPT Reply–>Already 3000 Muslims work in PYPT, this is shame full act by these people. They should visit PYPT.Many of the leaders are Muslims Maulanas also.You will see this in new government too which will have all people from different faiths,caste,color,race etc.Muslims are using Ayurveda and doing Yoga,they accept Hindu ancestors.

    3. All communication and magazines be fully managed by (Dalit) Muslims or Muslims in general to showcase them as intellectual confidants who can handle sensitive responsibilities.

    PYPT Reply–>All are actually managed by Dalits and many Dalits Muslims too.Only Translation of Articles in English is done by few people.

    4. Entire canteen, food and kitchen management be done by (Dalit) Muslims to destroy roots of untouchability..

    PYPT Reply–>Please visit Muslims make food for Hindus in PYPT…What a Shame on Agniveer..

    5. All personal and organizational security be provided only by those who come as conservative Muslims in front of camera (having beard, Namaz mark of forehead etc) to portray the right image of Muslims as protectors.

    PYPT Reply–>Please visit…

  4. says

    PYPT Reply–>Please visit PYPT you have many Muslims who follow their religion inside but abiding by Vedic Values.

    Many Blogs have started writing against Swami Ji,please send us e-mail directly to know about .

    This is not Vedas teach…without knowledge you should not write.Without visiting PYPT and attending camps you should not write.Many Muslims come in Swami Ji camps.

    Anyway please keep up your good work and false arguments against all religions.Vedic work is being done by Swami Ji and is open in front of all.5% of population will be like Macaulay kids only.

    Those who are egoistic and live in superiority mode will not take Article down even after reply……….Anyway we Bless Almighty GOD that they should write more Articles like this to gain some glory.

    During Mahatma Gandhi time in Mumbai one journalist used to do the same,always writing against Gandhi Ji.When asked from Bapu why he does not reply to his Articles.

    Bapu said ,”What will be difference between him and myself”….

    • Ved Arya says

      Dear Dev,
      Ramdev is a Hypocrite just like Mohandas so called Mahatma….
      If Ramdev really wants to work for Vaidik Dharma why don’t he convert those muslims just like Agniveer converted. Ramdev atleast support the suddhi’s of agniveer and all hindu organisatons if can’t convert muslims and christians. Instead of this Ramdev is helping vidharmi’s is sowing the seed of coversions against hindus. With the reservation point lakhs and lakhs hindu’s may convert to Islam and Christanity. Ramdev is a total fraud by this time you people should get the idea…..where is your rationality brothers n sisters…

      • ganesh says

        Ramdev is not fraud…He has done till now nobody has done..And he is not agniveer type to convert…..He is working for upliftment of society by other yog,ayurved,swadeshi ,ant-corruption etc and hence his base work is not conversion type like Agniveer…..So better mind ur language before teaching Ved to others….

        • says

          Gganesh Ji

          What are these ‘Agniveer Type’ and ‘Conversion Type’? Are you against Agniveer’s Shuddhi Movement?

        • shravak says

          @Ganesh

          You haven’t understood the priority. Religious intolerance should be combated first than comes corruption. Is money bigger than somebody’s life?

          • ganesh says

            I think economic injustice should be proirity because if money goes in wrong hand it will harm true religion ie vedic…..If black money economy ends,there will be no lack of funds which will help in promotion and research of Vedas or we can say people will no more remain uneducated due to which missianaries convert them….

          • says

            So priority should be to ensure there are ‘no wrong hands’. Imagine that 400,000 crores indeed come back, and then is distributed with significant focus towards minority appeasement, corruption in misusing the fund, corruption in distributing the fund, announcing grants for madarsas etc! What will ensure that the utility of the funds is done wisely and without appeasement or selfish/ immature motives?

            So intellect would always be more important than any money. That is the message of Vedas. Master the intellect and money will be your slave.

            In our view, we should spend more energies to motivate people to generate several thousand lakh crores ourselves through entrepreneurship and positive practical thinking than wasting time in search of some ‘treasure island’ full of pirate’s loot! USA was a lawless jungle not many years ago. In Gold Rush, a lot of loot and kill etc happened. But instead of extracting loot, USA focussed on generating wealth through efforts and creative thinking. Today it is super-power. And now as a super-power, it is much easier to even sponsor the expedition for search of ‘Treasure Island’.

            Vedas say that wealth is infinite in world, and it all depends on how much you are willing to create through your efforts and intellect. Facebook founder Mark is worth more than 10,000 crores alone. If we work to create environment to nurture lakhs of such wealth-creators working together, which is much easier task than accounting for and procuring black money from outside, who figures are so far unreliable, then it will be more productive and sustainable.

            Yes, meanwhile, those who want to focus only on black money issue, we respect their sentiments.

            But ultimately, we can be super-power only when we realize that we are worth million times more than all that has been looted from us in past. And also are mature enough to use that wealth wisely. This is our vision and hence we work on those aspects that remove impediments in becoming legends of such magnitude. And appeasement is one such big impediment. Because with appeasement, things like terrorism and corruption come for free.

    • says

      Reply to Dev
      A. These are not demands but an agenda for those who sincerely love (Dalit) Muslims. Agniveer did not assert that ramdevji or anyone else does not follow this. They simply requested BST, PYP officials or Ramdevji to make official announcements on this and Agniveer would also publish them on site.

      Point 1: PYPT Reply–>Patanjali funds are 90% allocated in Dalit areas only, please visit different villages across India. Whoever has written this Article seems to be sitting in room and does not have actual wisdom of Patanjali Operations. Sales of Product to rich class is directly funded to villages, many members have taken villages and supporting them.

      – First of all, is it official reply of PYP or an emotional reply by a third party. Language is confusing.
      – The author confuses between dalit and rural areas. He needs to know that ‘Dalits’ live in cities too and ‘Savarnas’ live in villages too! Funding the villages and funding dalits are two different things. In most parts of the countries, so-called Dalit (SC/ST to be correct) areas are separate enclaves from other villages. These remote areas for example in Jharkhand, Chhattisgarh, Gujarat, Maharashtra etc are havens of missionaries. We have worked extensively in these areas and could not find a single PYP or BST operation. But we admit that India is large and we have covered a small sample only.

      But if BST, PYP could provide more details on this, we would be glad to share with our visitors. And also try to leverage the PYP/ BST presence to stop the missionaries and promote VEdas. We desperately need help in this and are sure BST/ PYP will help with tan-man-dhan in this noble mission

      • says

        Point 2. Significant proportion of (Dalit) Muslims in think-tank and senior leadership of all organizations to showcase them as intellectual and loyal heroes.
        PYPT Reply–>Already 3000 Muslims work in PYPT, this is shame full act by these people. They should visit PYPT.Many of the leaders are Muslims Maulanas also.You will see this in new government too which will have all people from different faiths,caste,color,race etc.Muslims are using Ayurveda and doing Yoga,they accept Hindu ancestors.

        – Agniveer never questioned the number of 3000 as claimed by Ramdevji. But the issue is different. We just want to know names of Muslims and Dalit Muslims in senior leadership – top think tank like spokespersons, media heads, unit heads etc. Please share with us the names and we would love to share with our lakhs of visitors to highlight the good work being done by PYP/ BST. However when we visited websites related to Ramdevji and read books related to him, we could not locate names of Muslims in key persons.

        • says

          Point 3 : Same as above

          Point 4: Entire canteen, food and kitchen management be done by (Dalit) Muslims to destroy roots of untouchability..
          PYPT Reply–>Please visit Muslims make food for Hindus in PYPT…What a Shame on Agniveer..

          – If it is official reply, we congratulate PYP for this. Please share with us a few names of mess managers, cooks etc to set right examples among masses. We assume this info is from official sources.

          • says

            Point 5. All personal and organizational security be provided only by those who come as conservative Muslims in front of camera (having beard, Namaz mark of forehead etc) to portray the right image of Muslims as protectors.

            PYPT Reply–>Please visit PYPT you have many Muslims who follow their religion inside but abiding by Vedic Values.

            – We raised a different issue here. This was relating to Muslims being termed as terrorists. Thus we said that the SECURITY staff should comprise of devoted Muslims only. This would set right examples because Ramdevji is always in public and media. When images of Muslim security-men come there, that sets right perception about Muslims. So ramdevji should immediately take this step – Have personal and major security held ONLY by conservative Muslims.

          • says

            Response to other dialogues of Dev:
            “Many Blogs have started writing against Swami Ji,please send us e-mail directly to know about . This is not Vedas teach…without knowledge you should not write.Without visiting PYPT and attending camps you should not write.Many Muslims come in Swami Ji camps. Anyway please keep up your good work and false arguments against all religions.Vedic work is being done by Swami Ji and is open in front of all.5% of population will be like Macaulay kids only.”

            Response:
            – Agniveer never wrote about Ramdevji. But to differ does not mean being against. This kind of reason shows that study of serious subjects like maths and science based on objectivity is lacking.
            – Muslims coming to Swamiji’s camps mean nothing. When you go to a doctor or physical instructor, you don’t see his religion. What we were talking about was doing something concrete for Muslims in a way that it does not endanger peaceful Hindus.
            – By the way, almost 50% of 1.5 lakh Agniveer fans are Muslims. Not the Muslim netas but the Muslim on ground. Aam admi. Most Muslims love Agniveer, even though a few fanatics hate for same reasons why they bomb mosques in Pakistan. But for that love of Muslims, Agniveer never had to appease anyone, or endanger interests of Hindus. If there is one single example of a fearless Hindu preacher loved by Muslims, it is Agniveer.
            – To compare Agniveer with Macaulay speaks volumes about the intellect and depth of person making this comment. Agniveer has been the singular reason for nationalist youth to be pride of their culture for logical reasons. Read thousands of testimonies of people who were transformed. Yes, Agniveer is away from publicity stunts. But none else could ever accomplish what Agniveer accomplished singlehandedly. But it takes a wise to appreciate a legend who speaks through impeccable track record.

            “Those who are egoistic and live in superiority mode will not take Article down even after reply……….Anyway we Bless Almighty GOD that they should write more…

          • says

            Articles like this to gain some glory.”
            Response:
            – Those who are egoistic and live in superiority mode will never accept their blunders. The reply did not even touch the issues raises. Agniveer will continue to write fearlessly the way it has so far to bring forth genuine Dharma beyond personality-worship.

            – If this mail is from a BST official or Ramdevji, it implies that they lack the competence to deal with such serious issues. After the suspicious death of Rajiv Dixitji, the BST team seems bankrupt of intellectual advisory.

            – It would help BST if they could rise above ego and find ways to utilize intellectual powerhouse of Agniveer team – who hail from best educational institutes and have propagate Vedic dharma like none could do – instead of considering them as enemies.

            One recalls story of a monkey and a bird. Monkey was getting drenched in rains. Bird advised to make a home to avoid such miseries in future. Monkey got angry and destroyed the nest of the bird. Indeed, Panchatantra is excellent to live by basics of vedas.

            “During Mahatma Gandhi time in Mumbai one journalist used to do the same,always writing against Gandhi Ji.When asked from Bapu why he does not reply to his Articles.
            Bapu said ,”What will be difference between him and myself”…..”

            – By the way, even Netaji and Savarkar used to write against so-called Bapu. The world knows the difference between these heroes and Bapu. But yes, everyone is free to choose their own role models. But by knowing your role model, one can assess what to expect from you.

            For Agniveer, role models are Swami Dayanand, Veer Shivaji, Rana Pratap Guru Gobind Singhji, Netaji and the likes.

            And finally, you ended your long reply with an example from your role model that teaches you not to reply in first place! And you started this reply saying you are not related with BST or PYPT while your mail-subject suggests you are an insider! You started with contradiction and ended with same, and same was there in between! Someone is…

  5. Satyen says

    Agniveer Team,

    I think it’s right time for Agniveer team’s representative to approach PYPT and have a closer look to ascertain exactly what they are doing. If it’s doing the same as mentioned above, Agniveer will get already partly Shuddh people and it can move forward to make them fully shuddh. This will also help PYPT to know more about Agniveer Team and clouds of perception that Agniveers are paper bullets will wane away. Please turn this crisis into opportunity. Golden opportunity not to be missed.

    Pranaam

  6. A student says

    Why i am unable to see the comments section .i am browsing using mobile and when i click on 8 responses nothing is happening….this is same for all articles.

  7. DOGRA says

    Good Article Agniveer
    Only one caste in our scriptures and that is HUMAN.
    There is no such thing as Dalit, as we are equal humna beings, our function sare dufferent due to our training and NOT birth, and each function, as you have stated, has dignity of Labour.
    Yes we should be mindfull of the converters, and let those individuals whose ancestors converted due to invasions to come back

  8. jaget955jaget says

    i am muslim and you are Hindu… but when we look at death body we never think of religion. We said it is a human body.

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