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The reality of caste system – Next Move

Sanjeev Newar
By Sanjeev Newar
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It is possible that this post is based on the translations and commentaries of Islamic texts like Quran, Hadiths etc. as published by all major Islamic publishing sources. These are the publicly available translations that are used for promotion of Islam by prominent representatives.

We, however, believe that most of these texts have been wrongly translated, misinterpreted, misquoted or even have been tampered with and interpolated to suit the selfish designs of proponents of Islam after Muhammad. Thus, we believe that original Islam and original Quran of Muhammad are totally different from what have been propagated by his followers in name of Islam. There are few minority groups in Muslims whose scholars subscribe to our views and interpret/translate Islamic texts differently or even refuse to consider the available Quran and Hadiths as authentic. But these scholars themselves are considered Kafirs and are condemned by a dominant elite group of Islam. Thus, when we refer to Islam, we actually imply these dominant elites of Islam and not Muslims or all Islamic scholars in general.

Wherever we critically evaluate Muhammad, we imply the fictitious Muhammad propagated by these false texts or their wrong translations and not the original Muhammad. We have high regard for original Muhammad who stood for non-violence and tolerance. Similarly, when we analyze Islamic texts, we refer to these questionable translations/versions and NOT original texts.

Further, we have a sense of the highest level of brotherhood for Muslims in general. Wherever we use the word Muslim in a critical manner, it refers to false representatives of Islam and not Muslims in general. Readers are requested to keep this in mind to understand the correct perspective of such posts on this website.

Nowhere should they assume the words like Islam, Quran, Prophet etc. to be referring to original noble entities, unless it has been referred in a positive light. We restrict ourselves only to notions prevalent in minds of fanatics and those without reason.

अस्वीकरण पढ़ें

इस पूरी वेबसाईट में जहाँ भी ‘इस्लाम’ वा ‘मुसलमान’ वा पैग़म्बर आदि मज़हबी शब्दों का प्रयोग हुआ है, उसका अर्थ केवल और केवल इस्लाम वा मुसलमान वा पैग़म्बर आदि शब्दों की वह व्याख्या है जो कट्टर इस्लाम के मशहूर और लोकप्रिय प्रचारक जैसे - ज़ाकिर नाईक़, अंजम चौधरी, हाफ़िज़ सईद, मौलाना इसरार अहमद, मौलाना मसूद अज़हर और उनके समर्थक करते हैं जिसके अनुसार हर ग़ैर-मुसलमान जहन्नम/नर्क की आग में जलेगा और हर इस्लाम छोड़ने वाले को क़त्ल कर देना चाहिए।

इस पूरी वेबसाईट में जहाँ भी ‘क़ुरान’ शब्द प्रयुक्त हुआ है, उसका अर्थ क़ुरान की पुस्तक के वो अनुवाद और व्याख्याएँ हैं जो कट्टर इस्लाम के प्रतिनिधियों द्वारा इंटरनेट और अन्य स्थानों पर प्रचारित-प्रसारित की जाती हैं जिन्हें पढ़कर कमज़ोर दिल के लोग कट्टरता की दिशा में मुड़ रहे हैं। हम जानते हैं कि क़ुरान व उपरिलिखित शब्दों की कुछ व्याख्याएँ ऐसी भी हैं जो हिंसा को आज के दिन ठीक नहीं समझतीं, एवं ग़ैरमज़हबी मानवता पर बल देती है पर ऐसी व्याख्याएँ और व्याख्याता कट्टर इस्लाम के प्रतिनिधियों और उनके अनुयायियों की दृष्टि में मुर्तद (मुसलमान जिसने इस्लाम छोड़ दिया हो) घोषित किए गए हैं। ऐसे व्याख्याता और उनकी व्याख्याएँ इस वेबसाईट के विषय नहीं हैं। चिंता का विषय है कि आज इंटर्नेट आदि माध्यमों में कट्टरवादी व्याख्याओं का बाहुल्य है एवं उदारवादी सहिष्णु व्याख्याएँ दुष्प्राप्य हैं।

हम मानते हैं कि मूल इस्लाम, पैग़म्बर, क़ुरान आदि बहुत प्रेम और आनंद सिखाते होंगे। परंतु इस वेबसाईट में इन शब्दों से केवल वो अर्थ लिए जाएँ जो नवीन लोगों ने अपने हिसाब से अपने मिलावटी ग्रंथ/अनुवाद बना लिए हैं। हम इन मिलावटी ग्रंथों/अनुवादों को ठीक नहीं मानते और हमारी इस्लाम, पैग़म्बर या क़ुरान आदि विषयों की व्याख्या को आज के कट्टरवादी प्रचलित/मिलावटी अनुवादों के संदर्भ में ही लिया जाए। हमारी कोई बात मूल इस्लाम, पैग़म्बर और क़ुरान के लिए नहीं है। उसके लिए तो बस सम्मान है।

किसी भी व्यक्ति, समुदाय, उदारवादी विचारधारा की भावना को ठेस पहुँचाना इस वेबसाईट का उद्देश्य नहीं है। किंतु विषय गम्भीर है, संवेदनशील है। प्रचारित इतिहास पर प्रश्नचिन्ह उठाता है। कुछ स्थानों पर एतिहासिक विषयों को नाटकीय रूप में भी प्रस्तुत किया गया है। अतः यह निवेदन है कि यदि इन विषयों को लेकर आप किंचित भी संवेदनशील है तो इस वेबसाईट को आगे न पढ़ें। यह वेबसाईट केवल परिपक्व मनस हेतु है जो इस अस्वीकरण को ध्यान रखते हुए, हमारी मूल भावना का सम्मान करते हुए, हमारे सृजनात्मक अभिव्यक्ति के अधिकार को अंगीकार कर सकें।

This entry is part [part not set] of 11 in the series Vedas totally reject Caste System

Vedas totally reject Caste System

The goal of writing this series is not to paint a gloomy, hopeless picture and to make all feel guilty. Instead, the goal is to be objective and realistic about our history, and present and pave a smart way for future.

This is what needs to be done to save India and Hindus Let each of us strive for this at whatever level we can and soon the efforts would multiply into a transformation within a few years. Let us reject caste system totally in thoughts, words and actions.

Don’t repeat the history

Stop associating yourselves with our forefathers to defend their mistakes. This is also a form of caste system. Take collective responsibility for whatever happened. So-called birth based Brahmins and Kshatriyas are not the only ones to be blamed. So-called Dalits and Shudras are more to be blamed. Why did they allow these fake Brahmins and Kshatriyas to usurp power and create a nuisance for centuries?
Now let bygones be bygones. Stop calling yourself as belonging to any caste except humanity. Stop blaming any Brahmin, Kshatriya, Vaishya or Shudra for whatever happened in past or happens now. Our fight is against a mindset and not persons. Our success will depend on how strongly we refuse to even accept any person by his caste in the first place.

We must realize that it were few people who believed in caste system and made it flourish. To blame all birth-based Brahmins for deeds of few would be foolish. We must accept the truth that Swami Dayanand Saraswati who debunked caste system on basis of Vedas was also a Brahmin. The person who gave Ambedkar his name was also a Brahmin. Veer Savarkar who had an undiluted stand favoring total destruction of caste system was a Brahmin.

Instead of making an upper-caste vs lower-caste issue, we must realize it is an issue that impacts all sections of society and hence must be collectively destroyed.

Don’t defend caste in the name of culture and tradition
Stop the habit of defending every other thing in the name of culture and tradition.

Totally reject every scripture, every ritual, and every institution that thrives on the birth-based caste system. Let us say a full stop to it, be it a great temple or festival or a book we have been taught to love since early childhood for generations.

Agniveer did not find Vedas – the first texts – to contain any support for such ridiculous unverifiable conjectures. On contrary Vedas extol for pure meritocracy. Also, Vedas are free from adulterations to best of our knowledge. Hence, we consider Vedas as our foundation. All other texts are acceptable only to the extent they comply with Vedas. And if they advocate casteism, racism or gender bias, they are anything but scriptures. Let’s reject them outright, as well as those people, institutions and rituals that defend these.

This does not mean we reject our forefathers out rightly. Accept their good points; do keep track of deeds of your forefathers if you want to, but only as an inspiration and source of motivation. Refuse to enjoy delusion of your supremacy based on deeds of your forefathers. No one gives you the 1st Rank in University because your grandfather was a topper!

Don’t acknowledge any temple that refuses Dalit entry
Refuse to acknowledge any temple that refuses to accept a talented ‘so-called’ Dalit as a priest. Either grab its control and install meritocracy or let such temples of hatred be boycotted. That may be the greatest pilgrim center, but publicity does not make a villain into a hero.

Accept non-Hindus as Hindus

Coordinate with local temples controlled by logical minds to openly accept non-Hindus as Hindus with dignity. They may do a short ritual like a recitation of Gayatri Mantra and make one a Hindu. No need for any mention of any caste except that he is a human. Only adherence to certain basic lifestyle norms like food, charity, education, non-violence, worship of Supreme, equality of all human beings, etc. may suffice.

Organize Shuddhis

Events should be organized where these Shuddhis are done at larger scale. And those taking part should be made into Brahmins, who then are eligible to conduct religious rituals and be priests of temples.

In fact, special temples should be opened with Dalit and erstwhile non-Hindu priests. It has started in many areas but needs to be done more aggressively.

In so-called Dalit areas, rituals should be conducted that convert them into Brahmins, who then conduct rituals of Brahminization of other Dalits. What more, these people should be provided Surnames like Sharma, Tiwari, Tripathi, Chaturvedi, Dwivedi, Trivedi, etc. that they can legally use. This should happen in such wide scale that within few years, it becomes impossible to distinguish between a Brahmin of few years and a Brahmin of few generations. (There is no way to find Brahmins of more than a few generations in absence of credible DNA verification). Swami Dayanand used to distribute sacred thread widely to promote Vedic Dharma. We should also use this symbol to promote our mission.

What would be the challenge?

One challenge that would come is from reservation-based politics, which would coax so-called Dalits to continue being called Dalits and earn privileges at the cost of dignity. But if wider community support programs and avenues of entrepreneurship be explored, this factor would gradually die a natural death. In any case, within a couple of decades, the craze of secured government jobs is poised to die down among the enlightened class of society due to much more attractive entrepreneurial and global opportunities, thanks to the technological revolution.

Now due to politicization, people have started feeling proud to be called Dalits or Anarya! This is a very foolish reaction to events of history that defeats the very purpose. Dalit means one who is trampled. It’s an abuse and society should refuse to use this world for any caste. One who is economically or socially neglected is a Dalit regardless of his or her caste. Any villain is an Anarya. A daughter of a fisherman is a noble Brahmin if she is a scholar. She is a Chaturvedi if she has mastered four Vedas. Instead of nurturing clustering of people around terms like Dalit, Arya, Picchdi Jaati, Backward Caste, Scheduled Caste, we should refuse even to recognize such foolish divisions when entire humanity is one caste one race. Factional parties thriving on Bahujan, Dalit, Dravida appeasements are as great enemies of humanity as the fake Brahmins and Kshatriyas of yesteryears – both are nurturing the foolish caste system for their selfish reasons or sheer irrationality.

But now is the golden time to understand the fakeness of the hollow caste system and destroy its very foundations. Of course, challenges are there, but even the opportunity is historic.

Agniveer’s resolve

Agniveer is determined to make this its number one priority. We appeal to all to join us in this mission as we initiate a movement through the ground level implementation of above plans.

We know that this chapter may arouse some angry reactions from those who support the denial of Vedas based on birth or feel men are superior to women and other bogus concepts. But we do not care because we are with truth and know that caste system is against Vedas, against humanity, against logic, and against the nation.

Those who desire to debate us on this are most welcome! But before that, you must showcase your DNA reports so that we can reliably conclude that you are indeed from a genealogy of Brahmins since the inception of Vedas and not children of a cunning Chandal, who took a Brahmin guise some generations ago. After all, by your own admission, only authentic Brahmins have the right to debate on Vedas!

May the rule of merit prevail!

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It is possible that this post is based on the translations and commentaries of Islamic texts like Quran, Hadiths etc. as published by all major Islamic publishing sources. These are the publicly available translations that are used for promotion of Islam by prominent representatives.

We, however, believe that most of these texts have been wrongly translated, misinterpreted, misquoted or even have been tampered with and interpolated to suit the selfish designs of proponents of Islam after Muhammad. Thus, we believe that original Islam and original Quran of Muhammad are totally different from what have been propagated by his followers in name of Islam. There are few minority groups in Muslims whose scholars subscribe to our views and interpret/translate Islamic texts differently or even refuse to consider the available Quran and Hadiths as authentic. But these scholars themselves are considered Kafirs and are condemned by a dominant elite group of Islam. Thus, when we refer to Islam, we actually imply these dominant elites of Islam and not Muslims or all Islamic scholars in general.

Wherever we critically evaluate Muhammad, we imply the fictitious Muhammad propagated by these false texts or their wrong translations and not the original Muhammad. We have high regard for original Muhammad who stood for non-violence and tolerance. Similarly, when we analyze Islamic texts, we refer to these questionable translations/versions and NOT original texts.

Further, we have a sense of the highest level of brotherhood for Muslims in general. Wherever we use the word Muslim in a critical manner, it refers to false representatives of Islam and not Muslims in general. Readers are requested to keep this in mind to understand the correct perspective of such posts on this website.

Nowhere should they assume the words like Islam, Quran, Prophet etc. to be referring to original noble entities, unless it has been referred in a positive light. We restrict ourselves only to notions prevalent in minds of fanatics and those without reason.

अस्वीकरण पढ़ें

इस पूरी वेबसाईट में जहाँ भी ‘इस्लाम’ वा ‘मुसलमान’ वा पैग़म्बर आदि मज़हबी शब्दों का प्रयोग हुआ है, उसका अर्थ केवल और केवल इस्लाम वा मुसलमान वा पैग़म्बर आदि शब्दों की वह व्याख्या है जो कट्टर इस्लाम के मशहूर और लोकप्रिय प्रचारक जैसे - ज़ाकिर नाईक़, अंजम चौधरी, हाफ़िज़ सईद, मौलाना इसरार अहमद, मौलाना मसूद अज़हर और उनके समर्थक करते हैं जिसके अनुसार हर ग़ैर-मुसलमान जहन्नम/नर्क की आग में जलेगा और हर इस्लाम छोड़ने वाले को क़त्ल कर देना चाहिए।

इस पूरी वेबसाईट में जहाँ भी ‘क़ुरान’ शब्द प्रयुक्त हुआ है, उसका अर्थ क़ुरान की पुस्तक के वो अनुवाद और व्याख्याएँ हैं जो कट्टर इस्लाम के प्रतिनिधियों द्वारा इंटरनेट और अन्य स्थानों पर प्रचारित-प्रसारित की जाती हैं जिन्हें पढ़कर कमज़ोर दिल के लोग कट्टरता की दिशा में मुड़ रहे हैं। हम जानते हैं कि क़ुरान व उपरिलिखित शब्दों की कुछ व्याख्याएँ ऐसी भी हैं जो हिंसा को आज के दिन ठीक नहीं समझतीं, एवं ग़ैरमज़हबी मानवता पर बल देती है पर ऐसी व्याख्याएँ और व्याख्याता कट्टर इस्लाम के प्रतिनिधियों और उनके अनुयायियों की दृष्टि में मुर्तद (मुसलमान जिसने इस्लाम छोड़ दिया हो) घोषित किए गए हैं। ऐसे व्याख्याता और उनकी व्याख्याएँ इस वेबसाईट के विषय नहीं हैं। चिंता का विषय है कि आज इंटर्नेट आदि माध्यमों में कट्टरवादी व्याख्याओं का बाहुल्य है एवं उदारवादी सहिष्णु व्याख्याएँ दुष्प्राप्य हैं।

हम मानते हैं कि मूल इस्लाम, पैग़म्बर, क़ुरान आदि बहुत प्रेम और आनंद सिखाते होंगे। परंतु इस वेबसाईट में इन शब्दों से केवल वो अर्थ लिए जाएँ जो नवीन लोगों ने अपने हिसाब से अपने मिलावटी ग्रंथ/अनुवाद बना लिए हैं। हम इन मिलावटी ग्रंथों/अनुवादों को ठीक नहीं मानते और हमारी इस्लाम, पैग़म्बर या क़ुरान आदि विषयों की व्याख्या को आज के कट्टरवादी प्रचलित/मिलावटी अनुवादों के संदर्भ में ही लिया जाए। हमारी कोई बात मूल इस्लाम, पैग़म्बर और क़ुरान के लिए नहीं है। उसके लिए तो बस सम्मान है।

किसी भी व्यक्ति, समुदाय, उदारवादी विचारधारा की भावना को ठेस पहुँचाना इस वेबसाईट का उद्देश्य नहीं है। किंतु विषय गम्भीर है, संवेदनशील है। प्रचारित इतिहास पर प्रश्नचिन्ह उठाता है। कुछ स्थानों पर एतिहासिक विषयों को नाटकीय रूप में भी प्रस्तुत किया गया है। अतः यह निवेदन है कि यदि इन विषयों को लेकर आप किंचित भी संवेदनशील है तो इस वेबसाईट को आगे न पढ़ें। यह वेबसाईट केवल परिपक्व मनस हेतु है जो इस अस्वीकरण को ध्यान रखते हुए, हमारी मूल भावना का सम्मान करते हुए, हमारे सृजनात्मक अभिव्यक्ति के अधिकार को अंगीकार कर सकें।

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I am founder of Agniveer. Pursuing Karma Yog. I am an alumnus of IIT-IIM and hence try to find my humble ways to repay for the most wonderful educational experience that my nation gifted me with.

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  3. CASTE SYSTEM – A GIFT TO INDIA.
    CASTE SYSTEM and ITS BENEFITS (No shortcut to success)
    Why some mangoes(Hapus) are treated high quality? You are insulting the low quality mangoes.
    Why reservation in trains for AC, 3-tier, 2-tier? You are insulting low earning people.
    Why physically handicapped not allowed in Army? You are insulting handicapped people.
    Why SCSTs reservation not allowed in medical?? You are insulting them.
    Why don’t you enter Laboratory with slippers and shoes? Scientists inside lab are insulting you.
    Why there are Generals and Commanders in Army? You are insulting low rank officers.
    Why why why this????
    Because you like to eat mangoes which are sweeter than others.
    Because you like to be comfortable in journey when compared to less hardworking class of people.
    Because hiring physically handicapped people in army will put Nation in danger.
    Because SCSTs reservation in medical will kill people. Lack of knowledge is dangerous.
    Because rules are set by scientists in labs. Violating rules will not give proper results in experiment.
    Because low rank officers are not trained to handle the situation that may come. So classification in must.
    Hence there is classification of people in India based on their mental and physical deliverable. If you ignore caste system, you will see more and more trouble as its evident from present India.

    • I don’t think you understand that Caste is not in the Vedas. Only non-hereditary Varna is. The confusion arises because of the foreign word caste. This is a good example as to why the the Portuguese derived word “Caste” should NOT be used to describe Indian concepts. It mixes several different concepts onto one. First this is what the Portuguese word caste originally referred to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casta
      Caste had nothing to do with India or with Hinduism. It described a social system under Portuguese colonialism in the Americas. Only after the Portuguese and English colonized India did the European word Caste get projected incorrectly onto India and Hinduism. In Hinduism in the Vedas there is only non-hereditary Varna (Brahmin, Kshastriya, Vaisha, Sudra) which was merely a way to categorize all jobs into one of these four. Each had their role and unique AND VALUED place in society. In the West there are jobs that are classified – white collar, blue collar jobs, managerial, clerical, etc. Similar jobs lumped together. Jati is community and it is birth based. There are countless communities and each has their own traditions, languages, cultures etc…. Just like you find all over the world – multicultural communities. So far there is absolutely nothing wrong with either Varna or Jati. Economic class is another factor (this is global), and the key thing here is that having a range of economic class is fine when fiscal mobility is possible. Hereditary class status is again something else, and wherever you find royalty and aristocracy (England, other parts of Europe, Middle East, Asia ) you have inherited class status. It is this latter inherited class status which is wrong and problematic. Inherited class status must go. Non-hereditary Varna, Jati/community, and fluid economic class are just fine.

  4. Agniveer.com did not find vedas – the first texts. Then you are first???? Agniveer.com came first on the planet???

    • Agniveer is saying that the VEDAS ARE the first texts. Vedas ARE first. You misunderstood his sentence. This is the whole sentence “Agniveer did not find Vedas – the first texts – to contain any support for such ridiculous unverifiable conjectures.”

      He is saying the first texts of Hinduism, the Vedas, does NOT support a birth based hierarchical system

  5. This article is totally misleading Hindus as if this website was the first to see the sun and first to come on the planet.

    • Praveen, this website is not misleading, and reconciles to primal points in Hinduism:

      1) Moksha-merging with god so to speak, but only if you lead a noble or dharmic life ie accepting all people view each person as spiritually equal
      2) God residing in hearts of all beings
      3) Karma Yoga-working without attachment to the fruits of the action ie selfless service.

      iT RECONCILES simple as a,b,c 1+1=2 = Agniveer

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  9. Agniveerji,

    Hindu Forum for Britain and Alliance of Hindu organisations UK, are against this caste cultural nonsense.
    Any discriminatin and no Moksha, this is not difficult.

    B. GIta 5.18 Lord Krishna advises to view differnt people with equal eye.

  10. Dear Editor,

    You are doing a great job for Vedic heritage and talking about religion to promote Muslim or Christian in the background. The Dharma is duty in the life of an Vedic Indian it can not be compared with faith,
    The man is responsible for his own actions, and to follow ethics in life is his own duty. He is free to accept any God in any form or may not accept any God, it is freedom of faith in India. The faith is blind but duty is in front of his eyes as natural gift, which will punish or reward for his good or bad deeds with new life.

    It is Vedic heritage, the natural phenomena have been described in anthropomorphic manner in human form. It has misinterpreted by the anti Indians.
    Once in the history Vedic culture was all over the world and enlightened the world.
    We have been saved due to caste system, during slavery of more than one thousand years, if we were having any religion like ‘Hindu’, we all may not have survived from brutal conversion. They were unable to convert caste, hence British have given freedom to destroy first the caste system on the name of reservation.

    With regards
    Dr.Chandra P. Trivedi

  11. The Vedic message,
    The caste is hereditary life principle. The religions are based on faith and superstition, to call ‘Hindu’ as Vedic religion is ignorance of the fact’
    The Brahaman, Kshatriya, Vaishya are class as per mental ability,and not the caste, All are born as ‘Shudra’ ignorant of knowledge with birth, after acquiring knowledge they serve the society as per their mental ability.

    To unite all in one religion, like Christian or Muslim is British and Muslim conspiracy to divide India on the name of the so called ‘Hindu religion.’ Due to caste system and classification of class ‘Varna’ they could not v

    The word; Voice is vital force of Life Consciousness
    When the wind blows, and river flows, it sings, when seed burst into life, it makes music, when child take birth, he cry, it is nature’s music and language. The Vedas preserved over the centuries with its musical tones from generation to generation, it explore the secret of creation that each generation is new, but the voice is immortal, which follow the mankind from generation to generation with new birth.
    I saw the Herdsman, him who never resteth, approaching and departing on his pathway.
    He clothed in gathered and diffusive splendour, within the worlds continually travels.
    10-177-1 to 3
    The Life is the dynamic combination of sense organs, and its executing faculties mind and brain. It is conscious principle between the life and death. The body is the seat of sacrifice to execute the functions of life, where life appears in different forms with different bodies with different mentality and fate in the ocean of life.
    The thought waves compress the men from all sides, and he speaks in assembly of life. The body with sense organs beholds the thought mentality adorned to body with a specific wave length of voice. At micro level the thought prevailing in the atmosphere influence it.
    The thought mentality never rest, it travel continuously and appears with life and execute its functions and disappear with de

  12. none superior or inferior,all strike brothers for glory n prowess(rig ved 5:60:5) make the world noble place for entire human race for everyone is divine child.(rig ved10:13:1) don’t think,speak n act ill if so none shall accept n negative energy u created will return to u . none is high r low . if u say some one low he does not accept that returns to u stating u r low ,u feel irritated even strat abusing that mean u gone made ,u lost ur peace,u r not happy. narender mody, sardar vallabhbhai patel, subhsh c bose, vivekanand all sudras. sudra having son from brahman female shall be chandal though half brahman lower to his son from akshtriya female called khatri half akshtriya(manusmarti) sudra balmiki wrote hundu religion holy book ramayana n vedas bhagwat geeta upnisads etc hindu religion holy scriptures were written by vyas s/o sudra fisherwoman greatest constitution in the world written by sudra baba saheb dr ambedkar. rashtra pita ghandhi born in 1969 after matriclation good in english poor in math av geo bad handwriting was married at age of 14 lost one year becoz of marrige was allowed to go to uk for higher studies by brahmin guru with conditions. on passing bar at law gone to south africa where throwen out of 1st class compartment by white man despite he had valid ticket came to india in 1916 at age of47 years to join congress (established in 1885)under leadership of balgangadhar tilak was killed in 1948 by nathuram godse in the begning was supporter of casteism shifted his stand on serious opposition of casteism by baba saheb who asked gandi when hindu shall free dalits in secound round table confrence in 1930 in which regard to asses the position of dalits simon commission visiting india was bycotted indicative of meaness of mentality of caste hindus n their leaders n their grand children even on ur web sight still agaist any welfare of dalits. leave aside 27 crore dalits u tell ppl brahman akshtriya vaish sudra r placed horizontally or vertically

  13. Agree with all your solutions. However I have a certain modification to make. If you believe in what you have written and are genuinely interested in bringing change, why don’t you start by changing your surname to Bharti, Anand, Gautam, Kamble, Khobragade etc, and through your website asking people to change to such surnames ? It would be quicker and you could start off immediately and over time there would be no difference. The collateral advantage would a message that you don’t consider any ignominy attached with these surnames and are practising what you are preaching.

    • This is really good.. We have people seeing the problem now and looking for solutions this is really great. Another name that would be good is Singh.

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