वेदों के बारे में फैलाई गई भ्रांतियों में से एक यह भी है कि वे ब्राह्मणवादी ग्रंथ वेदों के बारे में फैलाई गई भ्रांतियों में से एक यह भी है कि वेद ब्राह्मण वादी ग्रंथ हैं और शूद्रों के साथ अन्याय करते हैं। हिन्दू या सनातन या वैदिक धर्म का मुखौटा बने जातिवाद की जड़ भी वेदों में बताई जा रही है और इन्हीं विषैले विचारों पर दलित आन्दोलन इस देश में चलाया जा रहा है।
परंतु इस से बड़ा असत्य और कोई नहीं है। इस अध्याय में हम इस मिथ्या मान्यता को खंडित करते हुए वेद तथा संबंधित अन्य ग्रंथों से स्थापित करेंगे कि
• चारों वर्णों का और विशेषतया शूद्र का वह अर्थ है ही नहीं, जो मैकाले के मानसपुत्र दुष्प्रचारित करते रहते हैं।
• वैदिक जीवन पद्धति सब मानवों को समान अवसर प्रदान करती है तथा जन्म-आधारित भेदभाव की कोई गुंजाइश नहीं रखती।
• वेद ही एकमात्र ऐसा ग्रंथ है जो सर्वोच्च गुणवत्ता स्थापित करने के साथ ही सभी के लिए समान अवसरों की बात कहता हो। जिसके बारे में आज के मानवतावादी तो सोच भी नहीं सकते।
वैदिक मन्त्रों में शूद्र
आइए, कुछ उपासना मंत्रों से जानें कि वेद शूद्र के बारे में क्या कहते हैं –
यजुर्वेद १८।४८
हे भगवन! हमारे ब्राह्मणों में, क्षत्रियों में, वैश्यों में तथा शूद्रों में ज्ञान की ज्योति दीजिये। मुझे भी वही ज्योति प्रदान कीजिये ताकि मैं सत्य के दर्शन कर सकूं।
यजुर्वेद २०।१७
जो अपराध हम ने गाँव, जंगल या सभा में किए हों, जो अपराध हमने इन्द्रियों से किए हों, जो अपराध हमने शूद्रों में और वैश्यों में किए हों और जो अपराध हम ने धर्म में किए हों, कृपया उसे क्षमा कीजिये और हमें अपराध की प्रवृत्ति से छुडाइए।
यजुर्वेद २६।२
हे मनुष्यों! जैसे मैं ईश्वर इस वेद ज्ञान को पक्षपात के बिना मनुष्यमात्र के लिए उपदेश करता हूं, इसी प्रकार आप सब भी इस ज्ञान को ब्राह्मण, क्षत्रिय, शूद्र, वैश्य, स्त्रियों के लिए तथा जो अत्यन्त पतित हैं उनके भी कल्याण के लिये दो। विद्वान और धनिक मेरा त्याग न करें।
अथर्ववेद १९।३२।८
हे ईश्वर! मुझे ब्राह्मण, क्षत्रिय, शूद्र और वैश्य सभी का प्रिय बनाइए। मैं सभी से प्रसंशित होऊं।
अथर्ववेद १९।६२।१
सभी श्रेष्ठ मनुष्य मुझे पसंद करें। मुझे विद्वानों, ब्राह्मणों, क्षत्रियों, शूद्रों, वैश्यों का और जो भी मुझे देखे उसका प्रियपात्र बनाओ।
इन वैदिक प्रार्थनाओं से विदित होता है कि –
• वेद में ब्राह्मण, क्षत्रिय, वैश्य और शूद्र चारों वर्ण समान माने गए हैं।
• सब के लिए समान प्रार्थना है तथा सबको बराबर सम्मान दिया गया है।
• सभी अपराधों से छूटने के लिए की गई प्रार्थनाओं में शूद्र के साथ किए गए अपराध भी शामिल हैं।
• वेद के ज्ञान का प्रकाश समभाव रूप से सभी को देने का उपदेश है।
यहां ध्यान देने योग्य है कि इन मंत्रों में शूद्र शब्द वैश्य से पहले आया है, अतः स्पष्ट है कि न तो शूद्रों का स्थान अंतिम है और ना ही उन्हें कम महत्त्व दिया गया है।
सारांश
इस से सिद्ध होता है कि वेदों में शूद्रों का स्थान अन्य वर्णों की ही भांति आदरणीय है और उन्हें उच्च सम्मान प्राप्त है। यह कहना कि वेदों में शूद्र का अर्थ कोई ऐसी जाति या समुदाय है जिससे भेदभाव बरता जाए – पूर्णतया निराधार है। अगले अध्यायों में हम शूद्र के पर्यायवाची समझ लिए गए दास, दस्यु और अनार्य शब्दों की चर्चा करेंगे।
अनुवादक: आर्यबाला
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BAHUT HI SUNDER but I think First priority should be Hindi translation of Article Series
on Vedic God. Eradication of caste-system will not be a hard nut to crack
when people will understand true concept of God.
@ Truthseeker. It is both ways. In fact understanding of true concept of God demands not only knowledge but practice and mastery of Yoga. We all represent different phases of that understanding. But if caste system be dented, and intellectuals start rejecting those texts which support casteism, than understanding of God becomes much simpler from remaining texts. After all Vedas state that unless we consider entire humanity as one family – we cannot understand the truth. And eradication of caste system seems to be easiest nut to crack at this juncture, if we are willing to put same level of actions that were put by Swami Shradhanand etc not many decades ago.
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agniveer bhai vo bramhan hi the jinhone shudro ko vedo se door rakha hai or ab khate hai ki vaido ne sabko saman mana hai ye vhi bramhan hai jinhone shudro ko mandiro me khushne tak nhi diya pooja to door ki bvaat hai agar vastav me vaid shi hai or bhagvan hai to kyo nhi roka bhagvan ne is annyay ko kyo shudro ke bachho se sab nafrat ki nigao se dekhte hai bhai mera to yhi manna hai ki ye ved bakvas hai or kuch nhi bhagvan bhi bavas hai or kuch nhi ye kaisa bhagvan jo ek ko sar par bithe ordusre ko apne se koso dur. in juthje vaido me likha ki sabke ander bhagvan hai pr agar shudro ke ander bhagvan hai to unke sath itna annyay kyo agar sabhi bhgvan ke roop hai to ek dalit ek pandat ek chatrya ek vaisya kyo kyo ise jati ke adar par bata gya hai .kya hamesa pandat hi mandiro me gushe rhege oro ko kbhi moka nhi milega
baate banana to bhaut aasan hai magar jo choti cast me janam laita hai unhi se pucho ki unke dil par kya bitthi hai jo janam se leker marne tak is choti jaati namak kalank ko lekar jeete hai .agar is jhar ko mashoos karna hai to kbhi apneaap ko shudr bata kar dushre sthan par ek saal rahker deko pata lag jayega ki kya jhar peete hai dalit
Satishji you know that in past Bramhin who give place for school for Mahatma foole, when due to girls education fooles own cast excel them from society. Nanasaheb Peshway who give facility to other people in poone except Bramhin,Kshatriya, and Wayshay, You unknown about Sawatantraveer Sawarkar who insist all cast to do mail on one place and he does this. Chavahanji you know in recent any incident that any Bramhin who attack on any Dalit i know no any incident but you do not search those cast who attacking on dalit because those cast are powerfull and you have no power to speak against those cast, so you are abbusing for Bramhin you unknown that we are bramhine who without any cause facing attacking and abuseing ourself.
Sir, Bharat me Women aur shuder ki sheeksha ke liye pehla school 1948 me Poona me khola gaya the vo bhi Shri Jayoiba Phoole aur Mata Savitri Bai Phoole ne khola tha jo manuwadiyon ke atyacharo se 95% logo ko mukti dilwana chahte the aur dilwayi bhi . Sir agar VED 1948 ke baad aaye hai to aap theek keh rahe hai verna sab jhooth hai. Sir, Manuwadiyon ke atyachar sab level par hai dehat mai bhi, Delhi University me bhi aur AIIMS me bhi jo aaj sab dekh rahe hai fir Vedo ko sach kaise maan le.
Kon wevkuf kehta h ki brahman sir h kshatriya bhuja vesya jangh aur sudra pair h.kisi ne kaha ya kisi ne likh dia to maan lia.ye ho nhi sakta sudra brahmad kuch nhi hota sab janwaro wali soch h jike baju mai dum aur dimag mai gyan bhara hoga vahi aaj ki tarikh mai aage badhega.warna jhadu lagane ka kaam to brahman ko bhi krte dekha h maine peso aur pet k lie.
MAI JAB VAIDO KO MANUGA JAB MANDIRO ME BRAMHAN KI JAGHA SHUDR BHAGVAN KO BHOG LAGAYE OR SHUDRA BRAMHAN EK THALI EK THALI ME KHANA KHAYE
HA YES PER USKE LIYE VAH BHI BRAMHAN KE SAMAN SAB MANSAHAR KAYMSWARUPI TYAGAKAR VAIDIK ACHARAN KARNIVALA CHAHIYE ANYATHA SAB VYARTHA HAI
…..!! JAY SHRI RAM !! JAYTU JAYTU HINDURASHTRAM !!
Hum mehnat ki khane wale hai, Bhog laga kar haram ki khana hamre khoon me nhi hai aur lane ki koshish bhi marna. Hamari taqat dekhni hai to 1818 ka Koregaon ka itihaas padho.
Dalbir singh …. Haraam ki khana hum brahmno ki aadat nhi ….shayad yhi baat h ki hum brahman hmesha se e biksha pr rhe h ..or simple c life jite aye h …dusro ki tarah mahlo wali life nhi ……bog lga kr khana b kismat walo ko e milta h …..tuj jaise chutiyape ko nhi ………..
jab kisi bhi vyakti ke pair chukar uska samman kiya jata hai ,aur usse ashirvad liya jata hai tab pair ko shudr ki sangya kyo di jati hai! kya agar pair me kanta ya koi takleef hogi tab kya pureshareer ko takleef nahi hogai kya pair ki takleefko dimag vanchit rah sakta hai ? usi tarah se samaj ke sabhi vyakti ek dusre ka dard samajhe tabhi sara samuday pragati kar sakega ! bhala karo ;bhala karo bhagvan ,sab ka bhla karo ,koi n ho jag me dukhiyari , jab yah bhavna sabhi ke dimag v dil hogi tab matbhed hote huye bhi “manbhed “nahi ho sakenge !
as per vedas kshudra is not that who can born in kshudras house,kshudra is that who are illiteracy,un educated,and who are going to against of nature that person should be kshudra,if he is born at pandit home or kshtriya home that is the kshudra,and example ,like valmiki muni he is kshudra but after he became bhrahm rishi,,then,,vasishth muni he born in vaishyas home but he became a bhrahm rishi,then vishwamitra he born as kshtriya after that he becam a bhrahm rishi,,,,so that mince person has make his self as per his karma not on his born…..,
नमस्कार दोस्तो,
मैंने आप सभी के विचार पढे़ और अच्छा लगा । मेरे विचार से जाति प्रथा को हमारे आज के समाज में जीवित रखने वाले राजनितज्ञ है जो हम सब को बेवकुफ बनाकर अपना उल्लू सीधा कर रहे हैं और सब से ज्यादा कसूरवार हम सब हैं जो उनके हाथों उल्लू बन रहें हैं । राजनितज्ञ हमें बटाना चाहते हैं ताकि हम कभी एक न हो सकें क्योकिं अगर हम एक हो गये तो उन सब की कुर्सियां चली जाएगी और सबसे महत्वापूर्ण यह कि हम अपने अधिकारों जैसे कि अच्छी एवं सस्ती शिक्षा, रोजगार के साधन, आर्थिक सुरक्षा, उच्च स्तर का जीवन की मांग न करने लगें जिन्हे पाकर हमारी सोचने-समझने की समक्षता बढेगी और जागरूकता आएगीं । इसलिए राजनितज्ञ चाहते है कि शिक्षा को महंगे से महंगा करो ताकि हममें जागृति न आ सके और बची हुई कसर हमें जाति धर्म जैसे मसलों में लडाकर पूरा करते है इसलिए दोस्तों मेरी आप सभी से अर्ज है कि उस एकता को बढावा दो जिसे असफाक उला खान, भगत सिहँ, राम प्रसाद बिसमिल, सुभाष चन्द्रि बोस जैसे शहीदों ने भारत को आजाद कराने के समय बनाई थी
your comment right.Nice Thinking
Yadi barn bhed nahi hota to 1000 salo she shudro ko shiksha she banchit nahi kiya jata.
Naga sadhu banane ke liye bhraman Kshatriya baisya ki hi anumati nahi hoti.
Shudro ko mandir me Jane se nahi Roma jata.
Etc.
varn bhed aaj bhi hai…maine kisi sudra ko kisi brahmin ke ghar bhojan karte nahi dekha. woh to chodo kisi sudra ki marriage me kisi brahmin ko matrachar karke nahi dekha. aur nahi kisi sudra ke ghar me brahmino ko bhojan karte dekha…
budha ne yeh varn bhed dur karne apne sangh me sabhi ko amntrit kiya, raja ram mohan ray ne bhi koshish ki par varn bhed aaj bhi hai…..
yeh to chodo kisi hindu ko bolo tum kaun ho to jawab mile ga me vishya hoon mai bramin hoon me jain hoon me vaisnav hoon, koi aisa nahi kahe ge me hindu hoon…yani varn bhed to sabke khoon me hai
Sandeep ji ye Rajniti bahut purani hai jo manwata ko ek nhi hone deti. Samunder manthan ke samay ye rajniti Vishnu ne amrit pane ke liye Sunderi roop dharan karke ki thi, Raja Dashrath ke kul me bhi rajniti hi thi, Ram dwara Bali ko marna bhi rajniti thi, Parshuram dawara Karan ko shraap dena bhi rajniti thi, Daronacharya dwara Eklavya se Angootha katwana bhi rajniti thi, Ganaga ko Maa kehna bhi rajniti hai, Aaj Ganga poori duniya me sab se dooshit nadi hai, Rajniti me hum Vishavguru hai.
Rajneetigya nhi h him khud h.khud ka dimag kaam nhi krta kya rajneetigya kya alian h jo jada tez h.hum hi h jati ko badawa dene wale.brahmad khud ko aaj bhi sresth samjhte h chahe wo kisi school mai peon hi kyo na ho pr jati se brahmad h to sresth h.aur dusri taraf agar koi sudra sanskrat mai phd bhi kr le to usko tuchchh hi samjha jata h wo kabhi mandir ka pandit nhi ban sakta.use sudra ki drashti se hi dekha jata h.
Agar itna hi jati khatam krni h to vivah mai jati bandhan khatam krke dikho.
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aap ki bat bilkul sahi hai
me us ved ko nhi manuga jisme sudra or brahman ki bat ho inshaniyat bhi koi chij hoti he ek pagal ne likkhha sab usi ke pichhe bhag khade huye kyu apki budhhi or meri budhhi kya kam nhi karti jo kisi ki bhi bat mann lu
Ved nahi mañana to Mt mano Pr us ke bare me humhe sab kuch pata hona chahiye akhir itani purani rachana ko unhi to najrdaj nahi kiya ja Shakta sahi me ved ko samjna hai to viswikstar dekhna hoga .ye ved kisi ek dharm ke nahi hai sabhi manvjati ke kalyan ke liye rache gaye hai kabhi iska bhi vichar karoge to ..sach me saty Jan Paige.
People talk wise while behave otherwise .God known as brahman which name cunningly kept for own caste and being guru not allowing othrs to read/ wite and to do sadhna with the help of kings as case of shambuk ,eklavya ,karna and so on, history is full of such discrimations which even still continueing. Thus forcing India/bharat/aryavart/jambudweep ( lion shaped )to break into pieces and convert to
budhism,jainism,cristinity,islam,shikhism.It is guru who shows the mirror to the society.like father like son .Boasting never helps. How long befooling shall continue. If brahmin,akshtriy.vais sudra are equal let only 1 PERCENT intercaste marriges take place every month,you shall within 1 year INDIA SHALL BE GREATEST NATION as dr b r ambedkar ELECTED the greatet indian after 60 years BAPU GHANHI died in 1948
People talk wise while behave otherwise .God known as brahman which name cunningly kept for own caste and being guru not allowing othrs to read/ wite and to do sadhna with the help of kings as case of shambuk ,eklavya ,karna and so on, history is full of such discrimations which even still continueing. Thus forcing India/bharat/aryavart/jambudweep ( lion shaped )to break into pieces and convert to
budhism,jainism,cristinity,islam,shikhism.It is guru who shows the mirror to the society.like father like son .Boasting never helps. How long befooling shall continue. If brahmin,akshtriy.vais sudra are equal let only 1 PERCENT intercaste marriges take place every month,you shall within 1 year INDIA SHALL BE GREATEST NATION as dr b r ambedkar ELECTED the greatet indian after 60 years BAPU GHANHI died in 1948
kya aap batayege ki kya aap ki pas vedo ki kya mool kitab hai aap ne ye sab jan buj kar hindu dharam ko mahan banane ke liye nahi likha hai
aap ke pas sabot kya hai jo bhi aap ne likha hai vahi sach hai. aaj bhi gavao mai or sharo mai jati wada hota brahaman vishye kshtriyae sc st ki jatyo mai shadi nahi karte hai or sab vedo ki hi bat karte hai
iska matlab yoye ki tum bas juthi bato ko sach karne ki kosis kar rahe ho
adarniy sri khemchand ji kya apne ved padhe hai ?
apko kisibhi purani ary samajme padhne ko mil sakte hai
, sarvdeshik ary partinidhi sabha ram lila maidan ke samne asfali road diili se aap mangva bhi sakte hai . aap bhi vedo ka gyan pakar brahman bhi bansakte hai purohit vala kary bhi kar sakte hai ary samaj me aise bahut se aise vyakti hai jo nimn jati me paida hokar bhi ved ke vidvan bane hai aur purohit vaala kary bhi kar sakte hai !
bhartiy samaj me to manshari, nashe baaj bhi hai tab kya unko ved ke anukul acharan karne vala mana ja sakta hai !
Mere dosto iss post ke baare main kehne ke liye bahut kuch baate hai lekin sirf thoda hi likhunga
Kya manusmruti main 4 warni ke baare main yeh nahi kaha gaya hai ki brahman bramha ke sir(buddhi) se paida huwe hai, kshatriya baahu(haath) se, vaishya maandi(jaang) se paida huwe hai, aur shudra bramha ke pair(paaw) se paida huwe hai ?
Ji yeh likha huwa hai, maine aur hum sab ne padha bhi hai aur sab iss baat ko jaante hai,
toh mujhe yeh batao ki aap keh rahe hai ki ved bramhan aur shudra main bhedbhaw nahi karte hai toh yeh kya hai ? Ved likhit hai toh isme ulta kar dete bramhan ko pair(paaw) main se paida karwate aur shudra ko dimaag(sir,buddhi) se… bramhano ko sir(dimaag, buddhi) aur shudro ko pair(paaw) se hi kyu paida karwaya vedo main ? Aur ab aap kahenge ki yeh to jo hua tha woh likhit hai, toh mere dosto iska matlab yahi hua ki vedo main hi bhedbhaw ki sikhaai di gayi hai,
Aur sabse badi baat, ye hai ki agar bramhan aur shudra tatha dusre warno main koi bhedbhaw ya antar hi nahi hai toh yeh warna nirmaan karne ki jarurat hi kya thi… batao ? Vedo main agar in dono warno ko samaan hi maana gaya hota to nirmiti hi nahi hui hoti… example. Madhya pradesh aur maharashtra 1960 ke.pehale ek.hi rajya the lekin uske baad alag alag ho gaye. Kyu ??? Kyonki hindi bhashik madhya pradesh main chale gaye aur marathi bhaashik maharashtra main chale gaye… dono alag huwe kyu ki woh assal main alag hi they vicharo se, bhasha se… sirf jameen se nahi huwe the… woh bhi 1960 main ho gaye alag alag rajya… madhya pradesh aur maharashtra…Toh iska matlab yahi hai ki alag hai toh hai… vedo main diya hai bhedbhaw karna aur iska matlab aapki post galat hai… maine sirf ek.hi baat rakhi hai… aur bahut kuchh hai sacchai batane jaisi vedo ke baare main… krupaya aap hi thik se ved-puran padhe aur jhuthi post man kare… vedo main assal.main bhedbhaw hi hai warna dosto…
4 warn nirmaan karne ki jarurat hi kya thi ?Warn ka matlab hi hota h k jaati k adhar…
hello sir ,
varn to hote hai has baat 100% sahi hai aur hone bhi chahi hai
budhhi dimag me hoti hai pair me nahi
eg: kisi ko paina nahi hote agar budhhi hoti hai fir bhi vah ji payega lekin kisi ko agar budhhi hi nahi hogi chahe vah sharir se kitana bhi balwan ho uska kuch bhi fayada nahi isliye hame budhhi ko shreshth mananahi goga bhale vah achhi ho ya buri ho budhhi uchha aur shreshth hai…..
aur raha sawal varn ka
doctor ko doctor hi kahana padega use engineer nahi kah sakate
vaise
* hamari shatruonse,gundose raksha karnewale sainik aur police
* hame uchh dnyan denewale aachary aur Teacher bhale wo dnyan dharm ka ho ya vaidnyanik ho
* hamare sharir ka elaj karnewale Doctor kahalate hai
* buildin, road, brigde, mashin bananewale Engineer kahalate hai
* kheti me kaam karnewale majdur kahalate hai
agar kisi film achha kaam karnewala hero hota hai aur galat kaam karnewala gunda bhale niji zindagi me gunda hero hota hai aur hera gunda lekin film dekhate hue hum use hero hi kahate hai na
isliye varn ki jarurat hai har fild me hai ,
aur varn vyavashta sirf hindu dharm me hai yah galat hai baaki dharm me bhi varn vyavashta hai
Rajesh aap thoda dimag se kaam kro ye jitni bhi vahvasthae tumne btai kya ye janam se thi kya jo tum itna itra rhe ho.ye sab karam se thi.lekin hindu dharm mai jo veyvasthae h unse to peda hote hi insaan jati mai bant jata h.ab tum hi btao yaar us bachche ne esa kon sa kam dimag ka kia ki wo brahmad ho gya ya kiski raksha kar di ya kisko jeet lia jo kshatrya ho gya ya kon sa vesyo wala kaam krke aaya ya fir kese wo bina koi kaam kie sudra ho gya .jise aaye abhi kuch second hue ho wo kese jatiyo
Ved read karne se hame sacche ka pata chalta hi ki VED JAISE PAVITRA GRANTH ME KISI BHI VARNA KE BARE ME BILKUL SAHI LIKHA HI….SABHI KO VED READ KARNA ……….
क्या सही में वेदों में ऐसा लिखा हैं? या फिर ऐसे मंत्र बाद में अंतरभूत किये गये हैं? मान लेते हैं की वेद सही हैं तो फिर हिंदू धर्म के शंकराचार्य समानता बढाने के लिए क्यों आगे नही आ रहे हैं। क्यों इतनी जातियता गांवो शहरों में आज भी दिखाई देती हैं? डॉ. बाबासाहब आंबेडकर जैसे महापुरुष को क्यो आपनी सारी जिंदगी हिंदू धर्म के जातीवाद के विरोध में लढते लढते खर्च करनी पडी? बुध्द को क्यों समानता, बंधुता, स्वतंत्रता, सत्य, अहिंसा, करुणा, मैत्रि की शिक्षा देनी पडी? कोई ऐसी शिक्षा तभी दे सकता हैं जहा समानता नही, बंधुता नही, स्वतंत्रता नही, झूठ का बोलबाला हो, हिंसा का अतिरेक हो, दया करुणा मैत्रीभाव का अभाव हो या मानवता से अधिक वर्ण या जाती को महत्त्व दिया हो। क्यों लोगोने धर्मांतरन किये? क्यों धर्मो की संख्या भारत में सब से अधिक हैं? पहले वैदीक / हिंदू धर्म या व्यवस्था में कोई दोष होगा इसलिए तो इतने धर्म पैदा हुए। आज भी निचली जातीवालो की हलात इतनी जानवरो जैसी क्यों हैं? और उंची जातीवाले उनपर आज भी इतना जुल्म कौन से धर्मग्रंथ कि अधार पर करते हैं? इसका कारण क्या अग्निवेशजी हैं?
guru ravidas said – lakha aaye lakha turgaye tere warge raje , mahalan vich kabuter bolen band pade darwaje . u must have heared news – yamuna express way i10 car tyre brused 5 person of a family died . anyone if hopes god will come n protect him/her from odds of life / nature is wrong . big fish eats the smaller , is law of nature none can avoid except himself/herself . shihkshit bano , sangharsh karo n sangthit raho . if so then u shall win . in jan2010 threre was a judgement of supreme court of india pertaining to a bhill woman harassed by so called high caste stating that 95% indians as immigrants as how the native of the land can be harassed n passed the sentence to the so called high caste persons . in fact none is high or low but here might is right. how yuvraj is correct stating mae bhe to brahman hun whereas as per mausmarti brahman woman married to sudra the child shall be CHANDAL . IF SO , THEN BRAHMAN WOMAN MARRIED OTHER THEN HINDU , THE CHILD MUST BE MAHACHANDAL WHO IF MARRIED TO OUT OF INDIAN RACE THE CHILD SHALL BE PARAMCHANDAL . now either of two manusmarti or yuvraj is wrong . badayun girls were dalits- shakyas who were the kings but because of jungal raj /might is right it happens . SO none is high or low by birth the deeds make so.
Spreading misconcept about Hindu Dharma is strem of castism, all cast are responsibal for it, so it is necessarry to teach real hindu Dharma public. Agniveer doing this job if you want to fight about bad habites of society you must go up to society what is philosophy of Hindu Dharma. But like yourself do not make any attempt only makes complaints against Hindu Dharma now it is wellmarket for publicity, but it is not good for society.
ज्ञान में ब्रम्हण हूँ।
रणभूमि प्रर क्षत्रिय हूँ।
व्यवस्था में वैश्य हूँ।
सेवा में शुद्र हूँ।
अतं: में हिन्दू हूँ।
ISKA KYA MATLAB HAI
Hindu is not a religion, Sanatan or Vaidic is religion, We are not Hindu we are Sanatan or Vaidic, Hindu is a word used by Brahmins to protect themselves. When Muslim attack on a village all brahmin crying we all are hindu, but after finishing the attack you are chamar, u r dhobi, u r teli, u r bhangi, u r kumhar, what is this. Hindu word is used for self protection. Hindu word is not available in any ancient literature.
Mujhe ye to n pta ki ved kisne likha puran kisne likha h kya esme likhi bte shi h m n pta m bs etna janti hu ki hum us parmatma k bnde h jinhone m bs ek bhasha sikhai ti prem ki insaniyat ki jb manu es dharti p aye unki koi jati n ti bs pyar k jati ti ye hindu dharm aesa h jaha jati pati h esi karan se hum log ek n h m bs etna kahna chahugihum god n jo man m aye kre jb god n ek dunia bnai ek jesa rup dia to soch kyo aesi h hum log hi hai jo jati pati ko bata h ao hum sb god k aye marf pr chale apni dil k sune aur pyar kre insaniyat dikbaye jb hum bdlege to dunia bdlegi
bahan shivani ji., dharm ka ek hi sutr hai” dusre ke saath vahi vyavhaar kijiye jo apne liye bhi pasand aye ” yah sutr duniy ake har desh k me har samudaay me saman rup se lagu kiya ja skata hai usko vyapkata se sabhi ko s vikaar karna chahiye
AAPNE SATYA KAHA HAI
Mafi chata huin lekh ke vichar achhe hai parantu Loard Maikale ko doshi batakar sirf apne ko sahi sabit nahi kiya ja sakega, angrejo ne desh ko barbad avashy kiya parntu aur kisi ka ho na ho par daliton ka bhala avasay kiya unhone pahlibar dalito ko samanta ka adhikari mankar unhe saman adhikar paradan kiye. Angrejo ke aagman se pehlie hi desh main brahamanvad ke karana shudron ki isthiti bad se bhi badttar thi. Doshi sirf Brahmani sabhyata hai, aur koi nahi.
Mere dosto iss post ke baare main kehne ke liye bahut kuch baate hai lekin sirf thoda hi likhunga
Kya manusmruti main 4 warni ke baare main yeh nahi kaha gaya hai ki brahman bramha ke sir(buddhi) se paida huwe hai, kshatriya baahu(haath) se, vaishya maandi(jaang) se paida huwe hai, aur shudra bramha ke pair(paaw) se paida huwe hai ?
Ji yeh likha huwa hai, maine aur hum sab ne padha bhi hai aur sab iss baat ko jaante hai,
toh mujhe yeh batao ki aap keh rahe hai ki ved bramhan aur shudra main bhedbhaw nahi karte hai toh yeh kya hai ? Ved likhit hai toh isme ulta kar dete bramhan ko pair(paaw) main se paida karwate aur shudra ko dimaag(sir,buddhi) se… bramhano ko sir(dimaag, buddhi) aur shudro ko pair(paaw) se hi kyu paida karwaya vedo main ? Aur ab aap kahenge ki yeh to jo hua tha woh likhit hai, toh mere dosto iska matlab yahi hua ki vedo main hi bhedbhaw ki sikhaai di gayi hai,
Aur sabse badi baat, ye hai ki agar bramhan aur shudra tatha dusre warno main koi bhedbhaw ya antar hi nahi hai toh yeh warna nirmaan karne ki jarurat hi kya thi… batao ? Vedo main agar in dono warno ko samaan hi maana gaya hota to nirmiti hi nahi hui hoti… example. Madhya pradesh aur maharashtra 1960 ke.pehale ek.hi rajya the lekin uske baad alag alag ho gaye. Kyu ??? Kyonki hindi bhashik madhya pradesh main chale gaye aur marathi bhaashik maharashtra main chale gaye… dono alag huwe kyu ki woh assal main alag hi they vicharo se, bhasha se… sirf jameen se nahi huwe the… woh bhi 1960 main ho gaye alag alag rajya… madhya pradesh aur maharashtra…Toh iska matlab yahi hai ki alag hai toh hai… vedo main diya hai bhedbhaw karna aur iska matlab aapki post galat hai… maine sirf ek.hi baat rakhi hai… aur bahut kuchh hai sacchai batane jaisi vedo ke baare main… krupaya aap hi thik se ved-puran padhe aur jhuthi post man kare… vedo main assal.main bhedbhaw hi hai warna dosto…
4 warn nirmaan karne ki jarurat hi kya thi ?Warn ka matlab hi hota h k jaati k adhar…
Siddharth manusmirit k kon se ch me likha hain koo ref de ..yahan jo aap bat likh hain muk haath se jangh se aur pairo se paida hone ki bat yahan ki . ishwar ki mahanta k saath lankarit rup se karam bataya gya hain ..jo mukh se satay bole satay per atal rahe vedo k gyab ka prasar kare satay ahinsa ka palana kare wo brahaman hain .jo desh aur dino k raksha kare wahi khatriay hain isliye waju ka alankard kiya gya hain jo vaypar kare wo vasay .jo pasu palan kar kheti ka kaam sudar
सम समानाय वतानि जन्तु उच्चावच्च गच्छति सन्नसत्तो !
विद्वा च वेदेहि समेच्च धम्मं न उच्चावच्चं गच्छति भूरिपँजो !
सुत्तनिपात – २६२
अनुवाद – इंद्रिया अधीन होके जो तप करता है वो उच्च निच गती प्राप्त करता है | लेकिन जो विव्दान वेदों का अश्रय ले के धर्मज्ञान प्राप्त करता है उसकी कभी भी अवनती नही होती I
एव पि यो वेदगु भावितत्तो बहुस्सुतो होति अवेध धम्मो !
सो खो परे निँझपये पजाना, सोतो वधानूपनिसूपपन्नो !
सुत्तनिपात ३२२
अनूवद = जिसने वेदों को जान ली या है और वो सबकी सून लोता है वो खुद ज्ञानी बनकर दुसरोको ज्ञान दे सकता है ।
यं ब्राह्मणं वेदगुं अाभिजन्ना, अकिचनं कामभावे असत्तं !
अद्धा हि सो ओघमिम अतारि, तिण्यो च पारं अखिलो अकखो !
सुत्तनिपात – १०५६
अनुवाद – जिसने वेद ज्ञानी ब्राह्मण को जानली य जो धन और आसक्ती हिन है वो हि संसार मे सवश्रष्ठ है I
यो वेदगू ज्ञानरतो सतीमा, संबोधिपत्तो सरणं बहूनाम् !
कालेन तम्हि हव्येन पवेच्छे, यो ब्राह्मणो पुँजपेक्खो यजेय !
सुत्तनिपात – ५०३
जो वेदों को जानने वाला , ध्यान करने वाला , और लोगों को शरण देने वाला और पुण्य करने वाले को भोजन दे दो |
विद्वा च सो वेदगु नरोइव, भवाभवे संग इम विसज्जा !
सो विततण्णो अनिघो निरासो अतारि सो जाति जरांति ब्रूमीति !
सुत्तनिपात – १०६०
अनुवाद -जो वेदों को जानता है वो हि सब आसक्ती छोडके बालक और वृद्धावस्ता के परे होता है अैसे मै मानता हु।
ने वेदगु दिठ्ठिया न मुतिया स मानमेति नहि तन्मयोसो !
न कम्मुना नापि श्रुतेन नेय अनुपनीत: न निविशनेषु !
वेदों को जानने वाला कभी भी अंहंकारी नाही होता वो किसी भी चीज किसी से सुन के प्रभावीत नही होता ।
यदन्तगू वेदगु यन्नकाले, यस्साहूति लभे तरस इज्जेति ब्रूमि
सुत्तनिपात ४५८
There is hardly any Hindu who does not regard the Vedas as the most sacred Book of his
religion. And yet ask any Hindu what is the origin of the Vedas and it would be difficult to find one
who can give a clear and a definite answer to the simple question. Of course, if the question was
addressed to a Vedic Brahmin he would say that the Vedas are Sanatan. But this is no answer to
the question.
mere dosto. m jada kuch nahi kehna chahta bas itna hi kahunga ki brahm ka matlb gyan se hota chatriya ka matlab uske bahu air bal se .aur vaishya ka matlab thoda thoda sabka gyan hona.sudra ka matlab Jo gyan se vanchit ho.
ved ye nahi kehta ki sudra bhrma k pair se paida hue h to inhe pairo tale kucla jaye.hum sabko ek dusre ko achi trh samjhna hi hoga warna ye bahas sadiyo se chali aa rahi h aur chalti rahegi aur iska fyda political log uthate rahege
bhai ram not known who r u as nagars r bamans as well chamars in india like ram singh found among all castes. in fact hindu is no religion at all but it is brahmanism where brahman is protected by kshtriya financed by vaisya and served by sudra who r 90% in india . aham braham asmi , twam braham,sah braham asti -these mantras r in vedas n purans but none practices . an apple fallen from the tree touched by foot sudra is eaten not the one chewed by mouth brahama . even kshtriyas r fed up with the so called highness what to say for others. u have seen fate of so called baman politicians 80% ousted from indian politics and presently ati nich jati p m heading the nation which was ditched by the followers of manu and brahama . has any body tried to learn who was father of brahama, shiva , vshhnu who have been killer of jallandhar king husband of vranda/tulsi worshiped by indians again avtar ram killed king bali by cheating who was beget s/o dasrath n kausalya both were from same gotra as krisna’s sister n his father’s married to son n father respectively . vasisth was s/o prostitute ,parasar s/o chandali ,vyas was s/o low caste sudra satyavati step mother of devvart/ bhisham who was taught dhanurvidya by parasuram like karna (1st bet son thrown in river out of shame by his mother satyavati ) and grand mother of both kourvas n pandvas (begotten sons )narda was s/o maid like satyakama brahaman s/o maid while sanit gyaneswar being brahman out caste etc etc all is might of brahmanism which has proud poisonous to the great jambo dvip n conversions to buddhism ,jainism, christianity , islam ,sikhism n so on . god is in everyone open eyes n see nonsense, 6th avtar of cheat god visnu parasuraram talking to ram 7th avtar nad 8th avtar krisna helps his brther arjuna s/o kunti to kidnap his sister subhdra (4th wife of arjun) . both. is this avtarvad not so cheap?
Agar ye baat hai to Fir shudro Ka vaid suna jane PR kano me garam tel kyo dalne ki agya thi
shri sumit ji batlaiye kitne shudr ke kaan me garam tel dala gaya yah bate muglo ke jamane me hindu samaj me foot dalne ke liye likhvayi gayi thi !
selfish guys do all types of nonsense n jungal raj kamandal raj forget the reasonable stand of mandal the great n greatest indian bra who was to made to loose in home constituency , made to win by muslims from west bangal now banblades . there is none to blame but earnestly one should analyse own mistakes n request humbly to be forgiven who enjoyed for 3500 years at the cost of sudra 85% indians , which word no where even in rig ved only in purushsukta which is later on incorporation n hence concoction . ved —ekam braham dvitanasti . however , pre-vedic inhabitant and others who worship their own gods / goddesses in any form or others who migrated to india as one of supreme court of india’s order in case of harassment to a bhil lady in jan 2013 stated that above 90% indians are immigrants should not be called sudra an insulting name given to them . this order high , low, lower and lowest varna though is false , concoction n nonsense but is practiced in india so unless beside this n manuvad are once again burnt like manusmarti was burnt by the greatest indian there shall no possibility to unity as being tried by various means as everyone understands , no longer sudras’ tongues can be cut and molten lead can be poured in their ears.
shri raam ji ek shudra ke kaano mai tel dalwaya tha
Madanlal Birwaji can you sho any evidence from holly books which was written so many years ago for proving your orgument? your evidence must be old not any sudo secular writers because they are only heating Hindu riligion.
you seems interesting , many questions to ask you,
first question to you.
Que- who is brahma vishnu and mahesh , tell me about there origin and tell me the fact about god and goddess in hindu religion, who are they OR are you believe in god and goddess
brahma vishnu mahesh a name of the god .wo hume banane wala hain isliye wo brahma hain humra palan karne wala hain isliye wahi vishnu hain .humara kalyan karne wal ahain isliye wahi shiv aur mahesh bhi hain ..devi aur devta hain wo hain jo bina mange hum dete hain jaise suray devta vayu devta .jal devta yeh devta hain yeh manusay aur sab jiv jantuo se bina kuch liye unko hawa pani aur praksah pradan karte hain
ha ha ha madan lal ki kahan likha hain kis ramayan me tusli me ya valmiki me ..valmiki brahamn kaisi ho gye jab sudro ko ved padhne ka adhikar nahi tha to batao –aur ramayan jaisa granth ki rachna kar di …
sumit kahan likha hain kon se sastar me ki sudro ko ved sunne per garam tel dala jata hain kis ved me aisa likha kuch bhi likh do bina jane …
This is really not fair with shudras like jatavs whoell are kshstrtiyaz.a fight between prashurama ans kshatriyas forced them into hiding.they were always rajputs(kshatriyas).you cant deny this fact.
Who are they now,they are also considered shudra,they were never chamars.
भाई किसी सवर्ण को तो मैला उठाते नहीं देखा ये देस तो धर्म का अड्डा बन कर रह गया है जो भी होता है धर्म और जाती के ऊपर ही हटा है देश तो कुछ है नहीं जिस धर्म की बात होती है केवल कहानिया है कुछ नहीं
What english rualars make for dalit in indian history so many Bramhin fight against castisiem yiou no that Swatentravir Sawarkar who fight against castism, Sawarker maks compultion od all casts of Hindu couples for mail in Patitpawan mandir Sawarkar is Brhmin. In Ambedkar struggle so many Brhamine make support to Ambedkar. In Peshwai Peshwe which are Brahmin who make leder for Holkar who kems form tribes ther are no any type of Brhamanism you are only heating for Brhmins because Brhmins are not opposing you but it is not real so fulish people doing bad thing in history, but in all cast such like of people are present in all time. You do not involve in those people.
Jb koi uncha ya nicha nhi to ye atyachar kese chla
Abhi bhi jaati ke naam pe bhedbhav vese ke vese bne hai
bhai aaj k time me gov job me savarn bhi maila uthate hain
Tu b mat utha… Tujhe koi ghr bulane aata h kya is kam k lye… Tm khud krte ho…
Koi j to bataye k shuder kab paida hue kisne banaye kahan se aaye
jab srishti bani insan bane unme jo kam padhe likhe the maJdur the dusro ki agya par kam karte the unko shudr kaha jata tha inka bhi samaj me ek mahatv hai aj jaise ek saikil me hava walv chain adi ka mahatv HOTA HAi
@jab srishti bani insan bane unme jo kam padhe likhe the maJdur the dusro ki agya par kam karte the unko shudr kaha jata tha inka bhi samaj me ek mahatv hai aj jaise ek saikil me hava walv chain adi ka mahatv HOTA HAi
To mere bhai or desho mai bhi to honge istype ke log fir waha shudra kyo nahi hai
waha per kya sabhi log padelikhe or budhimaan hi the kya….bible mai keval manushye jaati hai
kyo bible me jati nahi hain bhai bhai ko marta hain ..lut apni beti se sex karta hain unse santane paida karta hain …kya yeh padhe likhe hone ki pehchan hain bible ch-01 me
bhai koi sudar udar nahi hota sab karam k karan hain …jaisi chori karne wala chor ahiin
Kya ap bata sakate hai ki pesava ke jamane me sudra ke gale me mataki tatha kamar me jhad bandh kar chalana padta tha aesa kyon
THere are any evidence that in Peshave period that Kshudro have Madka in there neck? Or broom on there back side? No because it is very clear politics of British Government You know that in Bajiroa Pewhway make Lider of there military a backword class fighter name Holkar and there are so many evidence in Peshwave history that Nanasheb Peshwy period when he making Pune as capital he leveled tax on bramhins,kshatriya, but all other cast become free from tax in pune.
सभी से मेरा निवेदन:
कैसे भी करके समाज से जाति प्रथा के रोग को खत्म करो :
नही तो हम खत्म हो जाएगें!
अब सोचना है कैसे?
Sir, jab tak Manuwadi, Brahmanwadi socha ke log dharti par hai tab tak jatiwad, brahmanwad, manuwad, vernwad khatam nhi ho sakta. Jab se RSS sarkar aayi hai tab se suniyojit tarikon se SC/ST/OBC ke scholars par par khoob attack ho rahe hai. Sir Maikale ka aihsaan 95% indian nhi bhula sakte kyonki unki badolat hi unko education mili hai verna ye right to kewal brahmano ke pass hi tha. Sir, Jab Eklavya aur Daronacharya they kaya tab bhi Maikalay jee the. Nhi
Tera dimak khrab h… Tu maikale to apna baap maan ya angrejo ko.. Ghanta frk nhi padta.
Tiwari jee Vernwad, Manuwad katam karo, aaj ke tarikh me shuder har position par hai shudro ke sath Roti beti ka vayvhar karo agar sahi me aap sahi me chahte hai ki samaj bache. Believe only in Constitution kyonki isko hindu, muslim sikh christan boudh, jain, sab mante hai isliye ram ramayan ved geeta karishan aur purano ko ijjat ke sath ganga me parwah kar do aur kewal Savidhan hi hai jo sab ko ek suter me band sakta hai aur bharat mai manwata ko bacha sakta hai. Doosra koi upay nhi hai.
dalbeer jati pratha aaj kahi bhi nahi hain media ek bat ko itna badha chadha dekhati hain .. aaj k time me koi bahi jati nahi manta ..
Tu phle guru grant sahib aur quraan ko nali me prahvahit krde.. Hm tujhe follow krenge..
पूर्णता: सत्य
वर्ण आश्रम व्यवस्था लाने से हि जाती खात्म हो जाऐगी I
Yes there are Gods in Hindu Religion but the definetion of God is very different then other so called religion, firest Hindu belive that at first Matru deo bhava, Pitru deo bhava , Acharya deo bhava, then devebhyo namo na maha. so every person or human who bourn then his firsts God is his mother then father then teacher then great people who make every good thing for human being. in Vedas hindu prayes for rain sun eare(vayu) and so on there are no any because every thing is essential for human.
Sanjeev Agniveer, Sanskrit Bhasha 99.9% khatam ho chuki hai, Ye kewal brahmano ki bhasha thi. aur isi ke dwara logo ko sheekshit kiya jata tha. Brahmano ke na to Akshtriyo ko, na hi vaisyo ko aur na hi shudro ke sheeksha ka adhikar diya aur nhi sanskriti bhasha ka parsar kiya. Sir, Maikale ki bhasha aur sheeksha aaj poori duniya me hai. Sir hindu word is not ours and hindu dharam is not ours. We are indian and only believe in Constitution of India not in hindu scripture.
संस्कृत भाषा ख़त्म नहीं हुई। इसे ख़त्म किया गया है। तुम्हारे जैसे मार्क्सवादी दलितो ने। देश से बहार जाके देखो, तुम्हारे इस खिचडी सांविधान की कोई इज़्ज़त नहीं है।अम्बेडर से बड़ा मुर्ख पूरी दुनिया में कोई नहीं है। और अगर किसी ब्राह्मण के साथ रोटी,बेटी का सम्बन्ध रखना चाहते होतो उसके लायक बनो। रिजर्वेशन छोडो के कॉम्पिटिशन करो अगर एक बाप की औलाद हो तो।
Reservation es liye h taki tum logo ne jo apne faiyde k liye logo ko padhne nhi diya wo b ab baraber pe aske or tumne reservation kisi ko diya nhi q ki tum log etne mtlbi rhe ho ki kbhi kisi k sath insaf kr hi nhi skte or hm to chor hi dete ab tk reservation per tumhare bap log bathe h sarkar me jo 12% reservation koaaj 49.5% bna chuke
Phle ja k padho desh k bare me uske bad ved puran padhna ved puran padhne wale kbhi desh nhi chala skte wo sirf logo ko ullu bna skte h
Jb desh ajad hua to desh me nokriya ae tb tumhare pass reservation nhi tha hmare pass reservation tha per kya faiyda tha reservation ka us time q ki tum logo ne kisi or ko padhne hi nhi diya tha jb hm padhe likhe hi nhi the to nokri kha se mil jati q ki nokri k liye padhe b to jaruri thi reservation to uske bad lgta esi liye time lg rha h barabri tk ane me thora or wait kr lo or apni sarkar sudhar lo agr sarkar ne sath diya to bhot jald reservation khmt ho jayega
KoI insan reservation nhi chahta h or bhot se log h jo use b nhi kr rhe h apna reservation ambedkar ji b kbhi nji chahte the ki reservation ho desh wo to chahte the ki voting me hi split voting ko dalito k liye per kuch log chahte the ki jatiwad khmt na hone paye india se wrna wo jo khud ko uchi jat kehte h fir kese khenge to last me reservation lga or jha tk videsho me ambedkar ji ki bat h to jake dekho videsho me kya h wo kon kitne bap ka h ye bolne se phle thora saram kro
TuMhari esi soch ko wjh se zakir nayak kese log bade aram se hinduo ko muslim bna de rhe h apne logo se such me payar krna sikho bus ye keh do ki vedo me jati wgera se koi mtlb nhi se logo ko respect nhi mil jayegi tumhare satj jo dalit rhta h sirf usko na dekho pure desh k dalito ko dekho ki reservation hone k bad b aj b wo piche h or law hone k bad b aye din unko jan se mara ja rha h koi braman k khane ki plat chu deta h uske hath kat dete h
Jese mahilao k sath annay hua tha wese hi dalito k sath b hua h jese hm mhilao ko support krte h wese hi dalito ko b support krna chahiye or agr abhi tumhe sak h ki hm 1 bap ki olad nhi h to fir tum b nhi ho q ki aj tum log ki kehte huye diho ki hme b reservation chahiye
Or m nastik insan hu per koi jb hindu dharm ki burae kr deta h to m uske dharm me char burae nikal deta hu per tumhari soch meri soch ko badal rhi h ab koi hindu dharm ki burae krega to m b uske sath burae krunga q ki hinduo ko lgta h ki reservation wale sb 1 bap ki olad hi nhi h
wah kya jhut bolte ho bhai reservation is liye hain ki kyo ki tum ne kabhi padhna nahi chaha bus kab kuch bina padh chaha hain kisne padhne k liye ro ka tha aur kon rok raha hain ..ambedakar ka naam bhi badnam karte hain aap log …arkshan hone k bad bhi bhi tum log nahi padte .43 % per nokri chahiye to 73 % walo ko nahi milti 43 % per mil jati hain.
agr tu ak baap ka h to 32 digree lekar dikha ktni there pass muje bta
Kya hoga itni notanki krke… 32 kya 50 degree le lenge… Koi badi bat h kya.
मनु भाई, बात संस्कृत की कर रहे हैं और आपके मुख से फूल झड़ रहे हैं, मेरी और से साधूवाद!!! आपकी भाषा/बोली सुन कर ह्रदय गद गद हो उठा, वाकई आप जैसे मधुर भाषी व सभ्य भाषा बोलने वालों के कारण ही, हिंदुत्व का नाम इतना ऊँचा हो गया है|
tu pagal hai dalbir singh. sanskrit bhasha kaisey khatam ho chuki hai? tu khud bhi sanskrit key shabd bolta hai jab hindi ya punjabi bolta hai. q ki most of the words in hindi and punjabi come from sanskrit. even english has many sanskrit words. so u do not know anything.
brahmans pe jalke kuch nahi hoga. tu mujhe koi khalistani lagta hai.
dear nagraj.
bhashao ka vikas nadi ki tarah nirantar hota rahta hai, na hi Ganga pahle jaise Pavitra nadi rahi aur na ab sanskrit aamjan ki bhasa hai, jab sarir par pahanane wale kapde chithre ho jai tab samajik ekai ko nae kapde mil jate hai,
nadi ka bahaw aur bhasha ka vikash ko rok nahi sakta.
नागराज जी, बहुत ऊँचाइयों पर लेकर जा रहे हैं आप, वेदों व भारतीय संस्कृति को, जिन्हें विरोधी विचार सुन कर गालियों, भद्दी शब्दावली तथा सामने वाले को खालिस्तानी आदि पदवी से विभूषित करते तनिक भी लज्जा नहीं आती|
dalbnir singh u r 100% right.
Tujhe sayad pta nhi ki aadhi adhuri jaankari ya wts up ka gyan kbhi b bezzatti krwa skta h.. Islye books padho wts up ka gyan nhi.
मै ये नहीं चाहता की संस्कृत भाषा ख़त्म हो | पर ये भी नहीं चाहता की जातिवाद ज़िंदा रहे | जातिवाद ने जो नुक्सान किया है उसको रिकवर करने के लिए भारत को १००० वर्ष लग जाएगा | हलाकि ये कहना मुश्किल है की जातिवाद का कारण संस्कृत भाषा है | जिन लोगों ने जातिवाद जैसा गंदा विचार को लागू किया था, वो किसी भी भाषा में ये काम कर लेते | रही बात आरक्षण की, अभी का सरकारी आरक्षण इतना कठोर एवं भयानक नहीं जितना हिन्दू धर्म (मनु संहिता) का आरक्षण | सरकारी आरक्षण में एक छोटा परसेंटेज (प्रतिशत) रख्खा गया है पिछड़े वर्ग के सुविधा के लिए, हिन्दू धर्म में ऊँची जाती के लोगों के लिए १००% आरक्षण था | चलिए जातिवाद को ख़त्म करते है, न रहेगा बांस न बजेगी बांसुरी |
101% सत्य
sunny bakshi भाईम, वाह वाह वाह!!! क्या सभ्य भाषा बोल कर अपने ब्राह्मणपण को उजागर कर रहे हो, और ब्राह्मणत्व का सम्मान पा रहे हो| ब्राह्मण ऐसा ही होता है और ऐसी ही सभ्य भाषा बोलता है, यही दर्शाना चाहते हो क्या?
sunny bakshi भाई, वाह वाह वाह!!! क्या सभ्य भाषा बोल कर अपने ब्राह्मणपण को उजागर कर रहे हो, और ब्राह्मणत्व का सम्मान पा रहे हो! ब्राह्मण ऐसा ही होता है और ऐसी ही सभ्य भाषा बोलता है, यही दर्शाना चाहते हो क्या?
Kurmi ek vaishya tha , jab ki yadav ek sudar , kiyu es ka answers chahiye
Jisko jo b rai bnani h.. Wo bnaye.. Koi dikkat nhi h.. Par ved aur manusmriti ko padhne k bad bnaye… Naki wts up university k gyan k aadhar par bnaye..magad k raja dhananand chankya chandragupta mourya kisi history B jrur padhe… Bhut se dalit raja hue h… Uneducated class ko hi sudra kha gya h… Aur kbhi bde historian ko books padhna jo khud btate h ki chuchachoot bharat me muglo k aane k baad aayi.. Aur in historian ko meine paise nhi diye aisa likhne k liye