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Agniveer® is serving Dharma since 2008. This initiative is NO WAY associated with the defence forces scheme launched by Indian Govt in 2022

Vedic Training in New Delhi

Regular Agniveer Vedic Concepts Training Classes in New Delhi would begin from January 15, 2012.

The classes would stress on the fundamental concepts of Vedic philosophy, their applications and meditation methods. Their would be lectures, doubt-clearing sessions and hands-on training.

Scholars from different domains would be conducting these lessons. The language of classes would be Hindi.

Prerequisites – The classes would require simply an attitude to accept truth, reject falsehood and a belief that YOU can be a legend. Rest is already within!

Duration –  Each month would cover a largely independent set of topics that require minimal pre-learning.

Location – Patel Nagar Arya Samaj Mandir (near Dayanand Model School, few minutes walk from Patel Nagar Metro Station on Blue Line).

Timing – 4pm to 6pm every Sunday.

Fees – The introductory fees is a nominal Rs 1500 for registration. All proceeds from fees would go towards propagation of Vedas. The fees will also be used to provide a set of books to registrants for their self-study and ready reference.

Special Introductory Offer – FIRST 25 registrants would be completely waived off the monthly fees.

 

Topics Covered –

1. Characteristics of Universal Religion

2. Significance of Vedas

3. Protection and Preservation of Vedas

4. Fundamental Concepts of Vedas

5. Practical Methods of Worship

6. Meditation Techniques

7. Behavioral Re-patterning Methods from Vedas

8. Attitude-building and Will power enhancement techniques

9. Health & Fitness

10. Vedic applications in contemporary issues

11. Vedic transformation and miracle in life

12. Method and Benefits of Havan – Beginner Level to Advanced

13. Concept of Yajna in life

14. Ashtang Yog Sadhana

15. Vedic literature

16. 6 Darshans

17. How to achieve anything in life using Vedic methods

18. Vedas and Social Issues

19. Comparative Study of Modern Religions and Vedas as a common platform among all religions

20. Doubt Clearing Sessions

and many more….

Almost all sessions would emphasize practicals and would not be merely lectures.

 

For details & Registration – contact us at [email protected] or Aryaveer Agni @ +918745030553 or join on Facebook Page Event

If you are in Delhi, do not miss the opportunity to revolutionize your life and achieve whatever you wanted to achieve. This promises to be the most impactful journey in life to discover and implement your true potentials. Be a miracle performer in life. 2 Hours a week will make a legend out of you that you could never imagine!

UNLEASH THE LEGEND WITHIN!

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46 COMMENTS

    • @shravak
      __________Nice Initiative_________
      Nice my foot. Agniveer is running his shop of Veda very well. I am also interest to join class & learn Veda but I do not have Rs. 1500/-. Will you teach me. Stop this drama. No Hindu will come in your Trap. Very soon after winning of UP election many more Hindu will be converted Into Islam. Congress will ensure safety of Islam in India.

      • @Mawali Salim Shaikh(Follower of Falsity i.e Quranic bullshit)

        —Nice my foot. Agniveer is running his shop of Veda very well.—-
        Can understand, why your ass is on fire.

        —I am also interest to join class & learn Veda but I do not have Rs. 1500/-. Will you teach me.—-
        If you’re really willing to learn the veda, i will take care of the money. Now talk?

        —-Stop this drama.—
        No, you stop it. Get a life.

        —No Hindu will come in your Trap.—
        I don’t see any trap here, only dickheads like you cook this crap.

        —Congress will ensure safety of Islam in India.—
        lol…in current scenario, let congress save themselves first.

      • @shravak
        ________If you’re really willing to learn the veda, i will take care of the money. Now talk?______
        Ok I will discuss this to Imam of Jama Masjiz of Delhi. I do not want to commit any Kufra by attending class of Kaffirs. As You know there is Fatwa issued by Deveband for Muslims not participating in Surya Namaskar in (MP). It is duty of all muslim do not act anything which is against Islam religion made by Allah.

      • @Salim Shaikh
        Another excuse. Just say it, you don’t want to go. Why this drama?
        lol… and don’t ask him. We know, he will never going to send you.

      • You do not want to commit kufra by attending classes of Kafirs but none of you mind going to Haj after recieving the subsidies funded by the same kafirs. Its all about money, honey !

      • What’s your problem. Let Dharmic people do what they want to. I guess that is what islam teaches you, to prevent other people from practicing their religion and teaching it.

  1. Nice move agniveer jee .
    please also consider on-line Vedic Training using wiziq.com or similar sites .
    It will be beneficial for many people who could not able to attend classes due to location constrain

  2. Good job Agniveer. In addition to posting messages here and on Facebook, it is important for everyone to take the message & learning of Vedas to the average unassuming Hindu that goes about his/her everyday life, some of whom, follow devious Gurudoms. One need not be a Vedic expert but the drift of what’s seen here on the website on Vedas, can be articulated easily among family, friends and in places like temples. People, especially in the cities must use local temples to connect with others and exploit gatherings during festivals to voluntarily spread the Vedic knowledge. And it is important that those that still have morrings back to their villages do attend the average annual temple chariot festivals to take these messages to the masses.

    • Hi Bimbo,

      Gone through that website. Following conclusions can be easily drawn.
      1> The asker (I don’t know who is he) does not know that many Hindu books were adulterated
      2> The asker further assumes what the Britishers spoke of – related with Aryan Invasion Myth to be true.
      3> The asker refers to Vedas and other books from Max Muller point of view.

      Nevertheless, I am working on the clearance of confusions and will soon do the same. The problem is that many assumptions seem to be invalid. Also, the questions are framed in such a manner that it requires detailed answers to be given. So, it isn’t one day job – will take time. When I am done, I will mail you…

    • Dear Bimbo, there are many logical fallacies there. Just see the very beginning. Difficulty in being Hindu.

      He says Muslim, Christian, Parsi etc. all have 1 founder whose messages they follow. No such founder of Hindu.

      This error arises due to interchanging religion & community. Both aren’t interchangeable at all. A particular community is a group of people who are similar in some way while religion is a particular system of belief in a god or gods and the activities that are connected with this system. Ref: Collins Cobuild Dictionary. All the religions are basically communities. Hinduism, on the other hand is diverse and vast that it cannot be community but a way of life – You can’t be Christian if you don’t believe in Jesus and you can’t be Muslim if you don’t believe in Mohammed. A Mohammedan cannot be worshiper of Jesus or vice versa. It is quite possible to be Hindu and worship Christian / Muslim GODs at the same time. Hinduism teaches to visualize GOD within all individuals and surroundings. Vedas gave individual names to each attribute of GOD. These attributes were meditated upon by humans later on, who became self-actualized accordingly. So, the difficulty of knowing why one is Hindu isn’t a problem in first place but the way for ultimate liberty. The way which does not exist in any other religion.

      • You made some good points. The key is Hinduism or many Dharmic beliefs don’t have the prophet tradition. They have the Rishi tradition. It means someone can become enlightened and than show others how to do the same thing. There is no exclusivity to the claim. We can experience it for ourselves and know if it is true or not. The problem with the prophet tradition is it is history centric. None of those prophets showed their followers how to become the jesus or the mohammed or the moses or the abraham or the jashuwa or anyone else. While in many dharmic traditions they show us how to become the krishna or buddha. So it is a living tradition that is reprove-able. That is the only way to do it. And only way to be enlightened.

      • नमस्कार कृष्णा,

        आपके कथन से मैं सहमत हु। महात्माओ के जीवन से सदा सीखने के लिए मिलता है। लेकिन यह आवश्यक नही कि सबकुछ सीखने के लिए मिले। संत कबीरदास के शब्दो में – साधु ऐसा चाहिए जैसा सूप सुहाय । सार सार को ग्रहण करे – बाकी दे उडाय ॥ जो उनसे शिक्षा लेनी चाहिए वह आप लिजिए और जो अनर्थकारी है – उसे निष्कासित करे। शिक्षा तो लेनी ही है – चाणक्य ने भी यही कहा है कि यदि आवश्यकता पडे तो सार को निकृष्ट प्राणी से भी ग्रहण करो। किंतु किसी का अन्धानुकरण कदापि न करो। यवन, ईसाइ यही मात खाते है।

        सदियो पूर्व श्रीकृष्ण ने श्रीमद्भगवद्गीता सुनाई थी जिसे आजकल के लोग रट्टा मारते है। मलेच्छ आक्रमणकर्ताओ के प्रभावस्वरुप यह तो होना ही था – आपको जानकर आश्चर्य होगा कि 6 – 7 वर्ष के बालक / बालिकाए भी क़ुरान रट्टा मारते है – अब उन्हे अर्थ तो पता होता नही है अत: अकारण अनर्थ कर देते है। अब यही बडे होकर मुल्ला, ईमाम, मुफ़्ती आदि बन जाते है – आतंकवाद ऐसे ही तो फैलता है। कई हिन्दु तो गीता रट्टा मारते है पर यह नही जानते कि वह कौनसा गोपनीय ज्ञान दिया गया था। – प्रभुपाद के चेलो ने उसपर अपना धन्धा चलाया है – उनके ग्रंथ वेद नही बल्कि पुराण है अत: श्रीकृष्ण को गोपियो के साथ नाचने वाला दिखाते है। आजकल उन्होने नया कार्य शुरु किया है – कृष्ण का अन्धानुकरण।

        मैं यह कहना चाहता हु कि मनुष्यो को चाहिए कि सच्चे मार्ग का अनुसरण करे। परंतु अधिक व्यक्ति इस सत्य से अवगत नही। प्रबन्धनक्षेत्र का एक प्रश्न है – Are champions born OR are they made. अब्राहमी महात्माओ को उत्पन्न होने वाला मानते है अत: अन्धानुकरण करते है और वेदवादी सनातन धर्मी मनुष्य को महात्मा बनाना जानते है। हमारा कार्य उस मार्ग को दृश्यमान करना है जिसका हमारे महात्मा – श्रीशंकर, श्रीविष्णु, श्रीहनुमान, श्रीराम, श्रीकृष्ण, श्रीबुद्ध, श्रीगणेश आदि ने अनुपालन किया। अत: अंतर्जाल्यक्षेत्रो की सहायता से कृप्या यह बताए कि वह कौनसा मार्ग था जिसपर चलने वाले महात्मा बने। आप चाहे तो विशेष अंतर्जाल्यक्षेत्र बनाकर वहाँ यह कर सकते है और यहाँ उसका सन्दर्भ दे सकते है। मैं स्वयं भी ऐसा कुछ करने का सोच रहा हु पर उससे पहले उन भ्रमो का उत्तर देना है जो उपर पूछे गए है। कृपया उस मार्ग को विदित कराए जिसपर महात्मा चलकर भगवान कहलाए। उस गुप्त महामंत्र से अधिकाधिक लोगो को अवगत कराए।

        धन्यवाद ॥

  3. Hi Agniveer ji,
    Eagerly waiting for the classes to start in Chennai also.Until then i will do my duty of spreading vedic dharm to the people around me.

  4. कृपया अग्निवीर और अन्य विद्वान उचित सलाह दें ….
    मैं एक कॉलेज में पढता हूँ , हमारे यहाँ एक मंडली है जो भगवद गीता पढ़ा रही है …
    वे एक जगह पर एकत्रित होते है , और एक स्वामी जी(जो इस्कोन से सम्बन्ध रखते हैं ) गीता सुनाते और समझाते हैं ,
    एक तरह से कॉलेज की सोसाइटी है . अब में गीता पढना तो चाहता हूँ लेकिन , चूँकि श्री कृष्ण को परमात्मा न मान कर योगीश्वर मानता हूँ , तो उनकी नित्य की हरे कृष्ण मंत्र जपना , नाचना अआदी में नहीं करना चाहता ..
    यदपि में गीता समझने का इच्छुक हूँ , तो जो कुछ समय धार्मिक लोगो में बेठ सकूं वर्ना कॉलेज में क्या होता रहता है आप सब जानते ही हैं .
    तो अब मेरे लिए उचित क्या रहेगा ?
    में आज वहां गया था तो उन्होंने मुझे दोबारा आने को भी कहा .
    में क्या करूँ?
    १. वहां दोबारा जाऊं ही नहीं , और उनकी कोई फ़ोन भी न उठाऊं . और गीता को स्वयं ही पढने की कोशिश करूँ .
    २. उन्हें जाकर स्पष्ट बता दूं और उनसे पूछ लूं की अगर वो मुझे केवल गीता समझाते वक्त आने और मंत्र जाप और नृत्य करने वक्त से पहले चले जाने की अनुमति दे दें .
    ३. कोई अन्य विकल्प ?

    • प्रणाम मित्र !

      चूँकि श्री कृष्ण को परमात्मा न मान कर योगीश्वर मानता हूँ , तो उनकी नित्य की हरे कृष्ण मंत्र जपना , नाचना आदी में नहीं करना चाहता .. यदपि में गीता समझने का इच्छुक हूँ

      इस्कान के प्रचारक वेद नही जानते। श्रीकृष्ण योगीश्वर थे – यह सत्य है। आप गीता जानना चाहते है तो अच्छी बात है परंतु इस्कान कोई सही आधार नही। इस्कान कृष्ण को पुराणो के आधार पर समझते है अत: हर कार्य को (यहाँ तक गोपियो के संग नाचना भी) उनकी लीला बताते है। उन्हे क्या पता कि वास्तविक श्रीकृष्ण कौन थे। आपको नही नाच गाना है तो आप मत नाचिए – वह आपको यदि बलात् नचाए तो उनका परित्याग ही नीतीसंमत है।

      तो जो कुछ समय धार्मिक लोगो में बेठ सकूं वर्ना कॉलेज में क्या होता रहता है आप सब जानते ही हैं

      मजहब धर्म नही है। केवल कुछ समय आप धर्म के प्रचार में बैठ गए – फिर अधर्म के मार्ग पर आ गए, वह धार्मिकता नही है। रही बात आपके विश्वविद्यालय की तो वहाँ का माहौल आपको धर्म के विमुख करने का प्रयास करता रहेगा। एक बात अवश्य बताना चाहुँगा कि कीचड़ में ही कमल खिलता है। मैं स्वयं भी किसी विश्वविद्यालय में हु और सहपाठी शराब, सिगरेट पीते है – लगभग सभी माँसाहारी है और गालियो का प्रयोग भी करते है। मैं न तो शराब पीता हु न किसी प्रकार के तम्बाकु का सेवन करता हु, भोजन भी निरामिष रखा है। मैं “खाली दिमाग शैतान के घर” में विश्वास नही रखता क्योंकि मै खाली समय में संस्कृत पर मनन तथा ध्यान साधना करने में विश्वास रखता हु। कुछ सहपाठियो ने तो बोल भी दिया है कि ऐसे कलयुग में कहाँ से पैदा हो गए।… मेरा उद्देश्य अपनी महानता बताना नही है वरन मैं कहना चाहता हु कि धार्मिकता हमारे दिन प्रतिदिन के आचरण में होती है केवल यहाँ वहाँ बैठकर नही।

      वहां दोबारा जाऊं ही नहीं , और उनकी कोई फ़ोन भी न उठाऊं . और गीता को स्वयं ही पढने की कोशिश करूँ .

      पहले आप यह बताए कि वह श्रीमद्भगवद्गीता के नाम पर क्या सिखाते है – यदि वह केवल हरे कृष्ण का नारा ही लगाना चाहते है तो उनके पास मत जाओ। फ़ोन उठाओ और अपना मत निष्पक्ष रुप से कह दो – डरने की आवश्यकता नही। गीता को केवल प्रभुपाद ही नही जानता है बल्कि अन्य भी जानकार है। मैने करीब चार टिप्पणिया पढी है जिनमें से दो को अति उत्तम मानता हु – प्रथम आपको vedmandir.com पर मिल जाएगा और दूसरी एक अन्य योगीश्वर मनोहर हरकरे (जो पहले…

      • पहले आप यह बताए कि वह श्रीमद्भगवद्गीता के नाम पर क्या सिखाते है – यदि वह केवल हरे कृष्ण का नारा ही लगाना चाहते है तो उनके पास मत जाओ। फ़ोन उठाओ और अपना मत निष्पक्ष रुप से कह दो – डरने की आवश्यकता नही। गीता को केवल प्रभुपाद ही नही जानता है बल्कि अन्य भी जानकार है। मैने करीब चार टिप्पणिया पढी है जिनमें से दो को अति उत्तम मानता हु – प्रथम आपको vedmandir.com पर मिल जाएगा और दूसरी एक अन्य योगीश्वर मनोहर हरकरे (जो पहले किसी विद्यालय में विज्ञान के शिक्षक भी रह चुके है) द्वारा लिखित है – ॐ श्रीमद्भगवद्गीता – किंतु उसके लिए नागपूर जाना पडेगा। दोनो ही महान योगी है और ज्ञान का स्तर आपको पढने के बाद पता चल ही जाएगा। प्रभुपाद के अनुसार पूरी गीता अप्रक्षिप्त है जबकि अन्य विद्वानो के द्वारा गीता के कुछ श्लोक प्रक्षिप्त पाए गए। अत: प्रभुपाद कोई सही आचार्य नही।

        उन्हें जाकर स्पष्ट बता दूं और उनसे पूछ लूं की अगर वो मुझे केवल गीता समझाते वक्त आने और मंत्र जाप और नृत्य करने वक्त से पहले चले जाने की अनुमति दे दें

        यदि आप उनके गीताज्ञान से संतुष्ट है (मुझे वह पक्षपाती भाष्यकार लगते है – हो सकता है कि सत्य कुछ और हो।) तो अवश्य पूछ ले – किंतु सम्भावना कम है कि वह अनुमति देंगे – पूछ कर देखले।

        कोई अन्य विकल्प

        अन्य विकल्प मैं यही कहुंगा कि आप गीता अपने आप पढे और यदि कोई शंका है तो यहाँ लिख दे – विद्वान अपना मत रख सकते है। मैं बस यही कहना चाहुँगा कि मूल गीता में योगिक (अर्थात अध्यात्मिक) तथा वैज्ञानिक रहस्य है केवल ऐतिहासिक आडम्बर नही। मैंने केवल अपना अनुभव बताया है – सत्य क्या है वह तो परमेश्वर ही जानता है।

      • धन्यवाद .
        मैं आपका बहुत आभारी हूँ , और भी कोई यदि कोई सुझाव देना चाहे तो अवश्य देवे .
        मुझे भी यह लगता है की बिना मन के वहां पर बेठना उनके साथ और मेरे स्वयं के साथ भी धोका ही होगा .
        सादर धन्यवाद, अबकी बार जब उनका फ़ोन आएगा तो में सही सही बोल ही दुगा .
        मुझे वो रथ यात्रा में भी बुलाना चाहते थे , जो मेरे शहर में होने वाली है जबकि में मूर्ति पूजा करनी आदि छोड़ चूका हूँ .
        तो उचित होगा उन्हें स्पष्ट कर दूं .
        धन्यवाद.

      • मैं केवल यह कहना चाहुँगा कि वह अपने भीतर है – यदि जिव्हा द्वारा उसे भजना होता तो मूक प्राणी उसे भज न पाता। यदि नेत्रो द्वारा वह दीखना होता तो सूरदास जैसे अन्धो को कैसे दिखा? यदि धर्मग्रंथ में होता तो अनपढ को कभी नही मिलता। सुनकर प्राप्त होता तो बहरो का क्या? यदि मन्दिर में वह मिलता तो सर्वत्र नही हो सकता क्योंकि मन्दिर सर्वत्र नही। यदि मूर्ति में मिलने वाला होता तो वह मूर्ति जड़ नही होती और मूर्ति के समक्ष हाथ जोडने वाले को मुक्ति मिल जाती जो असम्भव प्रतीत होता है। इसलिए जब ऋषियो ने वेद लिखे तब उस परमेश्वर का ज्ञान हृदय में प्रकट हुआ। और इसीलिए श्रीहनुमान ने सीना चीर भगवान दिखाए।

        आप अपने साथ बस्ता लेकर घूमते होंगे – उसे आवश्यकता पड़ने पर ताला भी लगाते होंगे। क्या अपने ज्ञान को भी ऐसे ही ताला लगाते हो ? – नही न। क्योंकि जहाँ जहाँ आप होगे वहाँ वहाँ आपका ज्ञान भी होगा। उसे कोई हरण नही कर सकता – वही नियम परमेश्वर के लिए है। वह अपने अन्दर है अत: उसका ज्ञान भी अपने अन्दर ही होगा। उसके नाम को हृदय में ही जानना होगा।

        घट में है सुझत नही लानत ऐसी जिन्द ।
        तुलसी या संसार को भया मोतियाबिन्द ॥

        परमेश्वर अपने अन्दर है और उसे हृदय में ही जानो जैसे अग्नि, वायु आदि ऋषियो ने वेद जाने और लिखे।

      • Shrimaan, Please read Bhagwaat Geeta EK vadic Rahasya part I ans II. Second only people who have not attained samadahi talks of krishna as God.
        Rest all:-
        for eg :- Shirdi sai baba a samadhi prapt yogi never said Krishna is God. He said God is formless.
        Swami sammarths teaching too tallies with vedas.
        Nityananda Bhagwaan of ganeshpuri too said Krishna as yogi. His Chidaksha Gita is wonderfull to read . He never wrote. But his disciples collected and wrote his teachings.
        Then many secrets are unravelled by paramhansa yogananda in his “autobiography of Yogi.
        You can not know God by intellect n knowledge of Vedas but you require a guru who has experienced it self. I recommend all to read Vedas a divine light part 1- 5 especially yoga a vedas divine philosophy n Patanjali yogadarshanam.
        All these texts which i recommended are related and highly logical.

  5. It would be better if the course material covering all the subjects is prepared both in Hindi and English, so that we southerners could get the course material in English and arrange similar Vedic classes in places like Aryasamaj. Hope this requirement will be met.

    • I agree. I think Agniveer actually does some of the programs in some southern languages like Kannada, Malayalam, and Tamil. I’m unsure if they have anything in Telugu yet. It would be great if they did. I think there is a great need for a Vedic or Dharmic movement in the Andhra as well. The state has a lot of issues.

  6. Namaste rashmi,

    I agree with most things you said, but not everything. I do agree that a Rishi/Guru would be helpful in guiding you to reach God, but I don’t believe that is absolutely necessary. I think you can achieve God without them as well. As you, I do believe Krishna, Buddha, and the many Dharmic people who are sometimes worshiped as God are not God, but Yogis that have become Rishis. And our goal is not to worship them, but learn from their teachings and be able to experience the enlightenment like they have and become Rishis as well. Basically leading to Moksha. I guess that is what makes are Dharmic tradition great and amazing. We don’t have that history centric prophet tradition that other religions have. We have the Rishi tradition that no one person or group of people in some historical time have all the power. We as individuals can become liberated and achieve that liberation ourselves. It removes the dependency from that institution. I guess that is why abrahamic faiths are so afraid of the Dharmic faiths. Dharmic faiths remove the dependency on the institution. It gives you total freedom. And helps create an interdependent relationship between the institution and individual.

    Dhanyavad,
    Krishna

    • After my study of some 40 years of some great religions of the world, I found none so scientific, none so perfect, none so philosophical and none so liberal as the great religion known as Hinduism.
      – Annie Wood Besant
      British Theosophical society

    • Without a teacher no one can atain salvation.Because no one could become intelligent without studying any book or from a teacher.Similarly,how can one achieve salvation without any Guru?Even the word salvation is known if there is some learned Guru.And many so-called Gurus have made their own ways to achieve salvation which are not true because of lack of Guru.Nobody in the world has the right and the logical way to achieve salvation.Because from the last 5000 years there had been no true Guru.All Gurus have extincted.Before 5000 years there was a vedic tradition in which everyone used to study under the guidance of a Guru.Maharshi Patanjali in Yog Darshan has clearly said that nobody can achieve salvation without Guru.Not only him but all of the six darshanas ten upanishadas four Vedas have said so.So,we should accept the truth spoken by the ancient Rishis.We should not make any new kind of truth whch is against the law of nature and say it to be a way to achieve salvation.Only those human beings say so who have some sort of pride.THey want to gain ijjat from the world saying I have achieved salvation without any Guru so I am the greatest.apako padhna likhna uthna baithna adi karm bhi mata pita acharyadi hi sikhate hai swayam ap nahi seekh pate hai.tabhi aap satya janane me samarth ho sakate hai.koi bhi aap hi aap mahan nahi bana.

      • Namaste Vinay Arya,

        I respect your view, but I do not agree with it. I do think a true Guru or Rishi will help in liberation, but I do not think it is necessary to have a Guru or even a book. Again I respect your opinion, but I do not agree with it.

        Dhanyavad,
        Krishna

      • GURU is a Sanskrit word borrowed into English. It literally means from darkness to light. (As per some scholars, it also means heavy but that heaviness is in value not in burden. The Latin adjective “gravo” – meaning important is Apbhransha / adaptation of Sanskrit adjective “गुरुत्व”.)

        With passage of time, the meaning was slightly modified with person focused approach. Nowadays, Guru means a person who takes us from darkness to light. The need of such a Guru is explained here

        नाना पंथ जगत में निज निज गुण गावे।

        सबका सार बताकर गुरु मारग लावे ॥

        Ram Krishna Paramhansa was a born Hindu, to understand Christianity, he converted. To understand Islam too, he converted. Then he understood what is good from each religion and converted back to Hinduism. Then he preached his disciples the goodness. This is the need of Guru, for a skeptic person – Guru is mandatory. Once he / she understands the truth & follows it, Guru only becomes the reference NOT an essential part.

        We must understand development logic. Human brain isn’t like animal brain to accept everything as it is. Humans often have tendency to question. Science says – that is mandatory for learning and development. Imagine, there is no one to answer, what will happen???

        So, in initial stages, Guru is quite needed. As the meditation progresses, Guru’s role reduces to some extent and he becomes our support. With further progress, Guru becomes reference. – For example, when most of hindus came to Agniveer for 1st time, they were idol worshipers of some kind. Many did not know who Vedic GOD is & how to worship. Now, almost every Hindu here is educated enough. So, by that logic, agniveer is a Guru. Just my point: Scholars can refine it.

  7. @GOD IS GREAT
    What’s your thinking on this?. Is it in the line of Veda? Please express your views on this.

    “गुरूर्ब्रह्मा गुरूर्विष्णुः गुरूर्देवो महेश्वरः।गुरू साक्षात् परंब्रह्म तस्मै श्री गुरूवे नमः॥”

    • Ram jee,

      नमस्कार!
      Before I begin, we must understand that Sanskrit is one such language whose multiple implications can be taken based on context & experience.

      That is made by Adi Shankaracharya who was one of best Yogi ever known. Literal meaning of that cannot be taken. If Guru is considered one who imparts knowledge, then by that logic – All are Gurus and all are students. That simply confuses. At the time of Shankaracharya, Guru meant – the awakening from darkness to light. Modern day Gurus are mostly fraud. Above verse does not apply to a fraud Guru. That’s why Shankaracharya says – श्री गुरुवे नम:. श्री indicates respectful. Only literal meaning won’t help here. Some spiritual inclination is mandatory.

      • Now, coming to implications: This speaks about the steps. First step is Brahma — creator. The desire to learn must be created first. Next is Vishnu — protector. If you have the desire, you must find the right medium to clear your doubts. Final step is Shiv — destroyer. All the doubts are destroyed consequently. Do you notice, Shiv is given special emphasis and said – देवो महेश्वर:? Scholars say that Shankaracharya was a Shaiva so he said that. NO – logic isn’t that simple, but very clear if considered spiritually. If doubts aren’t destroyed, then that shows that medium chosen is wrong. So, Shiv step is crucial and hence word महेश्वर: is used. Then he says साक्षात्परब्रह्म. English word Self derives from Latin word Seset which comes from Sanskrit word साक्षात् | In the beginning, humans are self centered. Slowly that स्वार्थ changes to परमार्थ। This is nothing but what a spiritual scholar said – प्याला मैखुदी का छोड़ प्याला बेखुदी का पी। … जलाकर खुदनुमाई को भस्म तन पर रमाता जा। अगर है शौक मिलने का तो हरदम लौ लगाता जा। Advaita is most misunderstood these days. The main purpose of introducing it was this: Don’t consider materialistic approach the goal and develop spiritually too. You aren’t the body but the spirit whose goal is to achieve liberation by uniting with almighty.

        So, Shankaracharya said – Guru is step of uniting self with GOD. Shankaracharya thus respects that process. It does not contradict Vedas. RigVeda 1.164.39 उत्तरार्ध says – He who does not know almighty, what good can Vedas do to him and if he knows that, he merges with that. Guru is praised in Vedas too but that Guru is the desire to get rid of darkness not a man. Even Kabirdas says – बलिहारी गुरु आपने गोविन्द दियो बताए। This statement is absurd if Guru is considered a man. Doctor gives us medicine but what will he do if we don’t take it? Similarly, we know truth but don’t act accordingly. What good can human Guru do? A human Guru can only monitor us if we surrender ourselves to him.

        However, if we consider Guru as a man, it…

      • However, if we consider Guru as a man, the Shloka means: Guru is creator of knowledge Brahma, sustainer Vishnu and Shiv, destroyer of evil. Guru is (as respectful) as GOD itself. I bow before that Guru.

        But, in that case, it is needed to have a good Guru. If Guru chosen is fraud, this is how Guru Naanak deals with that situation.

        झूठे गुरु अजगर भए लख चौरासी जावे।
        चेले सब चीँटी होवे नोच नोच कर खावे॥

        However, there is no fixed consensus as to how to find true Guru. But this method can help you laying some criteria.

        गुरु वही सच्चा मानउ घट में ब्रह्म दिखावे।
        झूठे शरण न जावउ नाना चक्कर फँसावे॥

        (Here, Naanaa means many and Naanaa chakkar refers to many cycles pointing towards rebirth & death.)
        सच्चा गुरु सत्ज्ञान दिलावे तजि लोभ अभिमाना।
        झूठा तीरथ, माला, मूर्ति व्यतिरिक्त नही जाना॥
        (This clear who is fraud and who isn’t)

  8. Namaste Agniveer,

    Is it possible to record these sessions (vedio) and upload to youtube and provide links here. It may not be an interactive sessions for others who see it, but definitely it would be an add on to the knowledge who wish to gain knowledge.

    Regards,
    Ganesh

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