- Why I am proud to be Hindu? Part 2
- Why I am proud to be Hindu? Part 1
- Fountainhead of all philosophies – Vedas
- Common questions on Vedic religion
- What is Vedic religion?
- Religion of Vedas
Yes, I am proud to be Hindu. Indeed, very proud. More than proud, I feel myself lucky. Very very lucky to be born a Hindu.
And why should I not feel so? People go crazy when they win a million dollar jackpot. So why should not I celebrate when I have won something more precious than millions of such jackpots! Now that He made me a Hindu, I have nothing more to ask from Supreme Lord. It is now my turn to repay for this rare privilege that he has gifted me. Hinduism is my most precious possession.
No, don’t take me wrong. I have nothing against other religions. On contrary, I completely respect all. I respect every individual’s freedom to choose any religion for herself without fearing any backlash either in this world or hereafter. And I proudly would stand to defend this right of each individual. This, again, is a core principle of Hinduism that makes me love being Hindu so much!
I believe that all philosophies, religions or ideologies have a lot of good things. I won’t argue why Hinduism may be best for you. That is your personal choice. I am here to tell you why Hinduism is my personal favorite.
Hinduism is that way of life that has no comparison, no peers, no equals. If I have to die thousand times, I will always wish to be born again as a Hindu. If I were to be threatened thousand times with death to leave Hinduism, I would gladly choose to rather die than leave Hinduism.
Hinduism, in fact, is not a religion in first place. It is neither a philosophy or an ideology. Religions, philosophies and ideologies are too time-bound, too specific, too geographical.
Hinduism, in contrast, is a ‘celebration’ of ‘being human’. It is all about ‘justifying’ being human. Hinduism, in fact, is synonym for ‘being human’.
Let me tell you a very few reasons, why I am so proud to be Hindu:
Reason 1 : Hinduism – the Oldest wisdom
Hinduism is the oldest wisdom known to humanity. In a narrow sense, people say Hinduism is the oldest religion. But reality is that Hinduism existed when division of humans on basis of religion was non-existent.
The source of Hinduism lie in 4 Vedas – wonders of human civilization. Vedas are the only texts that have been preserved in such a scientifically secure manner that even a variation of one syllable or pronunciation is not present. Further, Vedas are the only texts for which there is no reference available in history to suggest that they were being created. All that historical research tells us is that these 20,000 plus mantras were already existing when that research was being compiled.
These Vedas form the foundation of Hinduism. Vedas alone are ultimate evidence in matters of any dispute. If one browses through Vedas, you would find the best of ideals and wisdom, spanning across all subjects, without any reference to history, geography, people or events. Vedas are timeless and ever-relevant.
In modern era, after rise of modern religions and hence the agenda to prove their own religion the best, there have been attempts to malign the Vedas and offer misdirected interpretations of Vedic mantras. And thus for a layman, it becomes impossible to decide what is right and what is wrong – whether Vedas and Hinduism are indeed perfect, or it is yet another hoax.
But Vedas themselves come to rescue in this confusion, and offer the second reason why I love being Hindu so much
Reason 2: Hinduism – Enlightened Way of Life
Vedas themselves assert that one should not be bookish in exploring truth. Even so-called books of Vedas are not to be trusted blindly. Vedas assert that the wisdom of Vedas is already embedded inside our thought process. And human life is an opportunity to extract that wisdom out through rational thinking, noble actions and positive emotions. Vedas – as books – are supposed to simply assist this process.
In fact Vedas are derived from root Vid that means knowledge or enlightenment. So even if one scandalously destroys or distorts all the Vedas, no worries. One simply needs to take recourse to rational thinking, noble actions, positive emotions and nurture out the Vedic principles by integrating wisdom of enlightened ones in the society.
Thankfully, Vedas are not destroyed and by reviewing them we can speed up the process of enlightenment.
Vedic mantras are supposed to have therapeutic and psychological benefits even when recited without understanding them. But Vedas truly benefit those who are enlightened, who seek knowledge in life, who strive to live as per that knowledge.
Vedas are like sun or water. They benefit all. But those who dig a bit deeper, and are enlightened ones, can use the same sun and water to lighten our nights, run our machines and power the lives in ways truly unimaginable.
The thrust of Hinduism and Vedas is on this enlightenment, and NOT on a blind dogmatic belief in any book or verse.
Reason 3: Hinduism – Honest Liberal Way of Life
I am not sure if one can be a Muslim if he outrightly rejects Quran, or one can be a Christian if he outrightly rejects Bible. But yes, one can be a Hindu even if he outrightly rejects the Vedas, so far he has done so with best of his intent and intellect.
To be a Hindu, you don’t need certificate from any temple, church or mosque. You need not recite any verse. You need not believe in any particular God or book. You simply have to be honest to yourself.
Hinduism firmly believes that each of us at each moment in life is different. Hence our needs and understanding also are bound to vary. So it is foolish to judge a person by his current set of beliefs. The goal of Hinduism is not to enforce a pre-decided set of ideas, books, Gods, avatars or prophets. Its goal is to provide a nurturing platform for each of us at each moment. We used to read nursery rhymes as children, science as adolescents and specialize in medical, engineering or accounts as grown-ups. In same manner, Hinduism allows different options to all of us at all times to choose what is naturally best for us and progress from there. It is an advanced educational system that caters to needs of all in a customized manner. It is not a deprived school in a remote village that has only one Class 5 fail as the teacher and hence everyone is forced to read and mug the same set of books.
Since Hinduism gives me this choice, and even encourages me to fearlessly counter the most popular variants, I find Hinduism more human, more liberal, more honest and more natural to me than any other way of life I am aware of.
Reason 4: Hinduism – Truly Global
Most religious books have a local flavor. For example Judaism, Christianity and Islam have texts that have a very strong Middle-East flavor. Stories, rituals, culture and practices that relate to Middle-East era of middle ages. And that adds a wonderful vintage beauty to these texts that any literature lover would admire.
Hinduism also has certain books – Purans, Ramayan, Mahabharat etc – that have a strong Indian flavor. Of course, as Indians, there is an amazing wealth of wisdom in these books that also gives reasons to be proud of our heritage, irrespective of all the distortions that have crept over ages. And hence, they provide historical reasons to be proud to be Indian!
But essence of Hinduism lies in those texts that are truly universal and timeless. Of course Vedas form the crux of this global wisdom. But then there are also peerless texts like Yoga Darshan, Nyaya Sutra, Vaisheshik Darshan, Sankhya Darshan, Vedanta, Upanishads and Gita – that have astonished and inspired scientists and scholars across the globe with their timeless universal wisdom. The beauty of these texts lie in they having no flavor – Indian, Middle East or African. They have no vintage feel to them. Instead they are always as fresh and as contemporary as they were ever. I simply love this freshness!
These texts – the soul of Hinduism – are as relevant to someone in Australia as to someone in Africa or in even Antarctica. All other historical texts associated with Hinduism simply attempt to explain these timeless wisdoms through time-bound incidents.
Reason 5: Hinduism – Principles over Persons
A Christian cannot be Christian unless he believes in Jesus Christ. A Muslim cannot be Muslim if he refuses to believe Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) as last prophet. Regardless of whatever good that may be in texts of these religions, one must first believe in these pre-conditions – the special status of these people – to be eligible for anything else in these texts.
For example, if I believe in all the noble verses in Quran (which I firmly believe in), but reject those verses that call Muhammad Sahib as last prophet (because the concept of avatars or prophets does not appeal to my rational mind), I will not be considered a Muslim. In fact if I call myself Muslim because I like a large number of verses in Quran, but reject the concept of Prophethood, I may be put to death in certain countries on charges of blasphemy.
Christians have become much more liberal but nonetheless the word ‘Christian’ itself states that belief in Christ is a must.
Now this may be a very good thing to inculcate discipline in certain situations. I am not arguing their merits or demerits.
But to my democratic and liberal mind, Hinduism appeals so much more for respecting and even celebrating my individuality. It makes me feel so much special and values my uniqueness. It has no concept of blasphemy. It is not threatened by views, deeds, speeches or writings of a few individuals. On contrary, it embraces even them into its fold, if they are driven by honesty.
Hinduism, due to its emphasis on honesty, does not offer any mandatory persons as pre-conditions. Yes, a large number of people may worship Krishna, Ram, Durga, Kali, Shiva, Hanuman and many other Gods and Goddesses. Some worship a particular God or Goddess exclusively, some worship everyone. There are innumerable Gods and Goddesses and many are of even recent origin. For example Santoshi Mata, Gayatri Mata or Sai Baba. For many it has become even a fraud business to resurrect a new God or Goddess and mint money on religious feelings of masses. Yes that is an issue of concern and pointed by many as weakness of Hinduism.
But that is not the complete picture. In reality, Hinduism offers freedom of choice without being dictatorial or judgmental. What critics of Hinduism forget to emphasize is that Hinduism is the ONLY way of life that ALSO offers worship of principles ALONE. In fact even the so-called idol worshippers agree that while idol-worship may be first step, the ultimate goal is to reach a state of worship of principles ALONE.
Thus huge number of Hindus believe in formless God. Many are even atheists. Many believe only in core tenets – Patience, Forgiveness, Self-control, Non-Stealing, Purity, Control of Sense, Wisdom, Knowledge Enhancement, Honesty, Non-Violence.
So you can be a Hindu even if you don’t believe in any particular person or avatar or even concept of God. You simply have to be honest to yourself, and need not even take certificate of honesty from anyone.
And that is exactly why so many reform movements took place within Hinduism. Many schools fiercely debated and at times even abused other schools of thought. But that did not make them less Hindu. All of them naturally assimilated within Hinduism.
Sometimes freedom also tends to nurture social evils due to lack of enlightenment of masses. This is true for any society and any sphere of life. People misuse freedom to break signals and behave like rowdies. That does not mean Freedom is bad. It means there is need to emphasize the importance of responsibility that comes with freedom. It means we need to find ways to make freedom even more meaningful.
Hinduism offers a way to combat these through wisdom and intellect. That is why Hinduism is not static. It is ever-flowing and ever-dynamic. It makes me love and enjoy being Hindu so much more!
To read second part, follow the link: http://agniveer.com/why-i-am-proud-to-be-hindu-part-2/
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TO everyone out there,
And I believe in the Rishi not the prophet.
Rishi: Is someone that used Yoga/meditation and connected directly with God and reached that higher state of consciousness. Basically had the enlightenment experience that we all want. And this can be done by anyone.
Prophet: is a history centric person. Someone that is supposedly chosen by god at a historical place and time and commands that person to do certain things. Not repeatable.
Rishi concept is for everyone, prophet is for a few chosen people, racist. That is why the Rishi is truth and not the prophet which is a way for someone to get power and oppress. Yoga and meditation is the tool of the Rishi to reach that state where anyone can connect directly with God. Let us all try to be a Rishi and discard these false gods and prophets. To me they are they are the same. There is only ONE GOD, but gods and prophets are false. Yes, gods and prophets are both false. Because they both are forms of idol worship.
Message to the people. NO MORE GODS NO MORE PROPHETS ONLY YOGA, MEDITATION, AND THE ONE GOD. NO MORE GODS NO MORE PROPHETS ONLY YOGA, MEDITATION, AND THE ONE GOD.
dear krishnarao
i am impressed, I want to read (hindu scripture) in which these all things mentioned like (rishi) kindly send me pdf copy or link of pdf book
Thanks
Regards
Muhammad
Hi there,
As Ankur has said, go to Agnikart. Also check there is another English translation of the Vedas by Translated by Devi Chand M.A. He translated the Yajur Veda.
Today the translations in English are not that good. But the closest one is Translated by Devi Chand M.A.
I would also check out the Srimad Bhagvad Gita: A Scientific and Pragmatic Commentary by Ravi Prakash Arya.
The main issue we are facing is we have Sanskrit scholars, but they do not know English, or know it that well. They know Hindi, so the material is translated into Hindi, but not the greatest translations are in English. If you know Hindi, I would recommend getting a copy of the Rig and Yajur Veda, both of which are for free on this website. Agniveer lets people download it in PDF format for free.
And if your are serious, I would also look up the videos by ex-imam, Mahender Pal Arya. He was a muslim imam that converted to Vedic Hinduism, Arya Samaj. Please read up on him. And look at his videos. They are in Hindi, if you know Hindi it would be great to check out. There is a good debate by him and mr. naik’s guru and he really points out a lot of flaws made by muslims about the Vedas and Vedic Hinduism.
I would also read up on Arya Samaj. Sounds like you are mostly talking about main stream Hindus, but ignore other branches like Vedic Hinduism. Which does not believe in idol worship and only believes in the One God without any prophethood (which is idol worship as well) or praying towards cubes/rocks/stones, which is also idol worship. They believe in meditation on the One God.
And just to make it clear, this website is not Arya Samaj. They are a separate group that is also Vedic. They are very similar in some values, but they don’t agree with everything that Arya Samaj does. They are Vedic and also believe in the One God, no idol worship, no pilgrimage, no prophethood, and they believe in YOGA and Meditation as a true path to the One God. Please read the articles a little more carefully and you will understand the truth Vedic way.
Even though Vedic people do not believe or support idol worship, they do not believe some who does idol worship is a sinner. Or they will go to hell or some other nonsense. Instead we believe they are limiting themselves. Which is much different that calling someone a sinner and pushing them to hell. We do believe they can’t see God fully, but they are not sinner or something evil.
Yoga and Meditation is the True way to the One God.
Maharshi Dayananda Saraswati, the founder of the Arya Samaj considered idol-worship as a sin. Kindly read following question-answer given in his Satyarth-Prakash:
Q. – Well, if idol worship be not a meritorious act, it is not a sin anyhow.
A. ~ (Human) Acts are of two kinds only:- injunctions -i.e., acts like veracity in speech that have been positively enjoined by the Vedas and prohibitions – i.e., acts like mendacity that have been positively prohibited by the Vedas. Just as it is a righteous act to do what has been enjoined by the Vedas and a sin not to do it. If you resort to practices like idol worship which have been interdicted by the Vedas why then are you not a sinner?
Bhavesh Merja
dear krishnaroa,
kindly go slow on people who are new, that the reason most of the people give up before starting to explore. we must understand that even makaing an effort to start reading the veda for someone who is not from a Dharmic background is commendable. let him fist start with the option suggested, there is no free PDF of translated vedas is HINDI on the website.
krishnarao
hahah you are sacred to talk about your own books and blaming me I am in complex, you are arguing with me Iwant to know the bases of of arguments, is it wrong? there are more then 40 books in vedas I asked everyone to tell me name of any book more divine for him but no one has the courage to tell me the name. now I am making your job easy just give me the list of books of vedas.
Dear krishnarao, Ankur, and dogra
just give me the names of books of vedas and prepare urself for debate you have already gave me two name rigvades and yajur veda.
For you preparation use this website of holy Quran with english translation.
http://quran.com/42/11
lol…….. Prepare for a debate. Give me a break moron. You sound like a retarded kid. If you have real questions and are interested in Vedic that is fine. But you want to get into a petty debate get over yourself.
You came here for on reason. Think you are some hot shot and can convert everyone. Not gonna happen. That is the problem with you Arab worshipers. You want to push your inferiority complex in the rest of us.
L
Krishnarao,
There is nothing like Vedic Hinduism. Vedas are book of knowledge and it is for everyone–just like a book on science. Also, Aryasamaj is not a branch of Hinduism–it is a spiritual movement. A true Aryasamaji is a spiritual person and is not tied to any religion. There is a difference between religion and Dharam. Dhram is same for everyone—not for a group.
Scared, yeah, nice try. The only person scared here is you. I asked you repeatedly to answer a simple question. What is the technique that your prophet used to connect with god so we may reproduce it? If your religion was scientific, what he did should be reproducible. So what is the technique that your prophet used to connect with god so we may reproduce it?
The fact that you refuse to answer that question shows you are scared. I asked this question repeatedly and yet you keep running away from it. WHY ARE YOU SCARED TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION? are you afraid you will exposed as a fraud?
just send me the books In shaa Allah i will reply you from your own book
ankur. krishnarao, dogra
if you don’t have the pdf link then just send me the name of the books and link for online purchase, the books that you prefer most send me only one name each of you I will In shaa Allah debate with all 3 of you from your own books.
Bhai Fahad,
here is the link,
http://agnikart.com/books/complete-set-of-4-vedas-hindi
i believe that if you contact the Agniveer team giving them a copy of your ID card and proving that you are a Muslim, they will send you the books at a discounted price.
dear ankur
i don’t need the translation from agniveer because here is the reason,
ERROR
Agniveer’s translation
Atharva Veda 4.11.1“The sun has held the earth and other planets”
Agniveer has translated the word (Vurshab) as SUN, but actually it’s translated as BULL
and the actual translation is ,
atharva Veda 4:11:1 The Bull supports the wide-spread earth and heaven, the Bull supports the spacious air between them.
Now there is a lot of confusion who has uphold the earth and heaven and the Rig Veda 10:121:1 is also a scientific error, We all know the earth rotates and revolves and it’s not fixed in its place.
Many Hindus says the term [Vrushab] means sun and not bull, Those Hindus might not be aware of these verses otherwise they would have not raised the question about [Vrushab].
Atharva Veda 4.5.1, Rig Veda 7.55.7 The Bull who hath a thousand horns, who rises up from out the sea
Read the above verse, it uses the exact phrase used in Atharva Veda 4.11.1
‘’The bull’’ .
The term Vrshab is actually translated as Bull you can refer to any dictionary but some Hindus due to shame translate it as Sun, So if we accept their translation that would be a scientific error because the
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God says’’the Sun (according to Hindus means Sun)
comes out from the Sea. And Hindus believe there are 2 Suns, the Sun which gives heat and the other is which causes rain. And some Hindus says the olden Sanskrit words cannot be found in dictionaries, they mean there is classical Sanskrit and modern Sanskrit, A language becomes classic only if it was spoken by many people as their mother tongue, and all of us know Sanskrit is not a mother tongue of any community.
http://www.aryasamajjamnagar.org/chaptereight.htm
The most well-known scholar of Sanskrit language and Vedas in modern era was Maharishi Dayanand. He explains everything through a series of questions and answers. Please have a look at the link above. Vedas are very scientific books and there is nothing in Vedas that goes against modern science.
However, I do not understand the reason behind this debate. God has sent us with intellect and we should be always ready to accept truth and reject falsehood. If the debate is regarding the creation then just go and watch discovery channel. Why do we have to bring Quran and Vedas into these discussions. Spirituality is a very personal thing and here also one has to go by logic. I have personally understood and experienced the good effect of Yoga and Meditation. This can’t be subject of debate–you have to experience it by practicing. You can’t debate on a public forum about benefit of Yoga and Meditation–it is all about self-realization.
@Dear Muhammad,
i have no issues with you not wanting to read or explore.,Agniveer has not translated the vedas, the link that i had given is by a vedic scholar by name harisharan Siddalankar.
besides
if i say that ” I am a happy and gay ” in 1500 BC it would have been fine
but if i say the same today it would mean that ” i am happy and homosexual” , so the same word changed the meaning over a short period of time in the spoken language. there are thousands of such examples in all the languages present all over the world. if you take Qur’an for example the word “hoor” used to describe a virgin seductress that every good Muslims gets as reward in jannah(72 of them) in the Aramaic(a language much older than Arabic) language it simple means white sparkling grapes! this is just to site an example,
the Vedas are as old as creation itself i.e more than 1 Cr years old (not the books) so the same word which is used as X today would be used as Y then, so to translate the vedas one need to read and master the “Nirukta” ,”Nighantu” and “shatpath brahman”(vocabularies and context of vedas) first then only once can translate the vedas.. and there is “NO” translation of Vedas in “English” today which can be said to be satisfactory.
the translations you are quoting are of no vedic scholar.. if i translate the Qur’an “ya illa ha ill allah” as ” faha bhai ki jai ho and he the only god” will be accept that, similarly the translation has be be by a verifiable and backed vedic scholar, hope you understand.
Veda itself says, that an individual who do not have intellect the veda is of no use for them.
Om
Muhammd,
Stop fooling around and respond, to links provided.
1)Now can u answer why are there powerful female aspects of God?
2)Why does Lord Krishna say BG 10.20: God resides in hearts of all beings
3)BG 5.18 To look upon different people with equal eye
4) rv 10.191-194, can you commnet on these verses
5) Karma Yoga-working without attachments, ie selfless service.
ps not inetrested to debate about Islam, not concerned, it is u who are bothered and concerned at Agniveers great work, that is why you are here
Hi Homie,
lol So basically you are choosing which translation that Dharmic people should follow, so you can force your perimeter on us and basically become the judge, juror, and executioner. Nice try. Your rigged effort to try and force your translations of the Vedas on Dharmic people is for one thing, to impose a false translations and tell us look this is what you believe. Now look I have this great material everyone follow this. LOL.
You really think we are stupid and would fall for that crap. Homie you didn’t even tell us the translations you used. Seriously man, grow up. We made it clear we have translations provided by Agniveer here and this is the correct translation. If you are scared of a proper translations I can’t help you. Why don’t you use the translations we provided or run away. Because you know the translations provided by Agniveer scares you and that is the ONLY reason why you want to use a fake one
I have seen the translations you are using, it is by a Christian missionary named Wilson. It’s like someone using translations of the quran provided by Robert Spenser or some other Christian/Jew.
Everyone knows the game you are playing yet you were so stupid you thought you can get away with it. LOL. You basically used Christian missionary translations of the Vedas and than you try and provide the translation of the quran you agree with and try and debate. You basically want to rig the debate before it even start. Seriously, get lost dumbass.
If you have genuine questions, that is fine, but you are trying to play some conman games.
I don’t know about Wilson but Spencer is a best seller author. He does not translate the Koran. He uses translations by reputable Muslim authorities themselves like from the Islamic university in Egypt and in Saudi Arabia. This way people cannot say his conclusion were from a bad translation and therefore moot. In this day and age of political correctness and white washing of Islam he tells it straight.
Hi Arun,
Actually you are right, it isn’t wilson, it is Griffin. Wilson, Griffin, and Max muller are the lot of people who are Christians and some are Christian missionaries that had a very very poor understanding of the Vedas and Sanskrit and tried to translated them. Instead they butchered it. SOme of it was done to make the Hindu look bad. When people try and make the Vedas look bad, they use the translations by these conmen and/or missionaries who had a ulterior motive. If they have a problem with the Vedas, first use a reputable source of the Vedas. Use one translated by someone who is respected BY HINDUS. For example Devi Chand is a perfect example of someone who translated the Vedas to English and is respected in the Arya Samaj community. There are others as well. If someone disagrees with the Vedas, let us first start with a translation that Vedic People agree with not use some translation by someone who has nefarious intent.
And of course the other translation is the one provided by the scholars of Agniveer.
Best,
Krishnarao
I am proud to be born as a Human being with Intellect and Wisdom. I do not need a new label–Hindu, Muslim etc. I understand that Agniveer.com site came as a reaction to Zakir Naik. I also saw a number of youtube videos, where I saw many people converting to Islam. However, I am not disturbed by that -especially after listening to their arguments. One of them reasoned that he liked Kheer serverd doing Eid and hence he converted to Islam. It was very amusing:-) One of them was promised that all his sins will be forgiven if he accepts Islam. It was very clear to me that these people did not know how to use their intellect–it does not mater what label they use to describe their existence. You have to understand the psychology–inner voice always warns people when they commit a sin. The argument that your sins will be forgiven if you join my religion is a very powerful psychological weapon–a number of religions and Gurus use this weapon to increase the numbers of their followers. Now I commit a murder and someone says that if you become the citizen of my country and you will not be given any punishment then I will immediately will accept the citizenship of that country. Everyone who commits a sin knows his wrongdoing through inner voice. Our politicians indulge in all kind of religious activities and decorate their offices with pictures of Gods-however they steal the wealth of poor people.
Hi Sanjeev,
I understand your ideas in your reply, but don’t agree with all of them. Big part of knowing and understanding the truth comes down to knowing our differences. If we are unable to do that we fail at connecting with what is actually true. I recommend you read Rajiv Malhotra’s book being different.
I think you are taking some of the ideas of brahmo Samaj. Ideas which The founder of Arya Samaj rejected. I agree there are some truths in some religions like the middle eastern ones, but those religions are so tightly bounded to false ideas like prophets and flying horses that take prophets to heaven it is impossible for one who follows such a religion to parse it and separate such unscientific ideas. I’m sorry Sanjeev, but I don’t think you are on the right track here. Even though you claim to promote truth and reject untruth you are clearly hurting your own efforts when you make statesments like you did above.
And those conversions stated above have to do with only one thing superficial ideas not spiritual or really deep views. Which means those people were never taught a deep understanding of the Vedas or meditation or Yoga. Instead of sweeping it under the rug I would actually work in teaching the Vedas, yoga (spiritual part also), and meditation to the messes, like those uneducated people.
Hi Sanjeev,
Here is how I see what you are saying, when dealing with people of different faiths, that have certain things you disagree, you havu, on some occasions stated you disagree with certain elements of certain faiths. One that you perfectly made clear is you disagree with prophethood and alluded to other points as well. In the same post, you do go out of your way to state if they get rid of such beliefs and focus only the the good stuff, then they are basically becoming Vedic. And I get that. You don’t have repeat that part again. I get it.
end of part 1
Now here is where I have the problem, you are making the assumption that people who follow such faiths are willing to actually remove the ideas you consider to be unVedic or unDharmic. That is really a TALL ORDER (And maybe even add more Vedic stuff that is lacking in their current faith). Yes, there might be a few here and there that are willing to and even capable of doing that, but they are just a drop in the bucket. Now, not only does that person have to say I choose to follow the good stuff in my religion, but you are also asking them to reject these false things in that religion. You are not just asking to do ONE HUGE THING, but you are asking them to do TWO HUGE THINGS. And that second part of rejecting the false part of their religion is a huge order. Because that same religious book, which the they keep reading does not have highlighted in there, “this is false and this is true”. Nor is the false information in just one section and the truth in another section.
end of part 2
It is messy and all over the place. You are asking them to be this detective and scholar. They are bound to keep following some false things with the though process you presented. And lets also not forget the pressure they will receive from the place of worship they go to, leadership, and community will be overwhelming. If they continue to follow that religion, and some how were prefect found all the false things in it, eventually just by pressure, will most likely follow the false information again. Yes, there might be a tiny tiny few superhumans that can reject the false information, and follow only the good stuff and still live in the community. That tiny community does not represent vast majority of the humanity. They are the exceptional, superhumans.
end of part 3
Instead it is better to teach people to use their intellect. And if a muslim does get interested in Vedic ideas and wants to follow them, we should let them reject islam, and leave it and let them embrace Vedic Dharam. Instead of making ridiculous statements that almost sound like “I don’t care what their label is” because you are unable to accept someone that chooses to leave another religion full heartily and follow Vedic Dharam. I’m Sorry Sanjeev, but if someone from another faith comes to my house and says they rejected their old religion and chose to follow Vedic Dharmic, please welcome me in, I would embrace them with open arms and bring them into my family. I welcome them full heartily as a true Vedic person should. I would help them learn meditation, Vedas, and Yoga. And I would help them, if they wish to preach this message to other people of his/her former faith and welcome all of them into Vedic Dharam as well. I think that is the RIGHT thing to do.
Best,
Krishnarao
end of part 4
It isn’t a mere label. For them to be mere labels then the underlying premise is that all religions teach the same thing. They do not. Religions of around the world may attempt to connect with a higher power, but the details are important. They make the world of difference. In the two proselytizing Abrahamic faiths – Christianity and Islam – they believe if you do not believe in their God and Messiah or Prophet you will burn forever in hell. Islam goes further – in this life if you do not believe in Mohammed and Allah, all non-Muslims in an Islamic state are supposed to be treated as inferior dhimmis. Google what dhimmi is in Islam. In addition not all non-Muslim faiths are to be tolerated in an Islamic state. Initially only the two precursor Abrahamic religions – Judaism and Christianity – were tolerated in an Islamic faith, that is they were allowed to be second class dhimmis, heavily discriminated against and heavily taxed (jizya). Only later were Zoroastrianism and Hinduism, Sikhism, and Buddhism, also allowed to be dhimmis too. All non-Islamic religions that are not allowed to be dhimmis the Islamic state does not tolerate. It is conversion or death (death can sometimes be commuted to enslavement). That is right – conversion, death or enslavement. This is what Islam teaches. Read “The Multiple Identities of the Middle East” by Princeton University professor of Islam, Bernard Lewis. So Muslim is not merely a label but has also very serious life and death and enslavement ramifications for non-Muslims in Islam. Nothing short of civilization destroying. Look at the Buddhists of Afghanistan. Look at the Zoroastrians of Persia. Look at our own Hindu, Sikh, Jain, Buddhist brethren in our partitioned India in Pakistan and Bangladesh. No those are NOT mere labels.
Please also read this article http://www.hinduismtoday.com/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=1424
MashaAllah you googled very hard but I just want to know what the authority f Muslims ”Holy Quran” says about it why dont you google it as well and share with us.
wah !!! kya kamal ki baat hai!! kya quran ko” holy quran” bhi kaha ja sakta hai? jisme kalpit nabi rasul ho! kalpit farishte- jinn adi ka jikar ho! kalpit hure- gilme ho! kalpit jahannum- jannat ho? kalpit adam-havva ka jikar ho! kalpit satve asman me baitha allah ho ? dekhe quran11/77-81 jisme qurani allah ke chune huye farishte jab hazrat loot ke pas gaye tab unki basti valo ka ek giroh un farishto se “homo sex” karne ka ichhuk the, tab qurani rasool kahe jane vale loot ji ne kaha ki meri betiyo se sex kar lo lekin hamre mehman farishto se kuch n karo ,us bhid ne kaha ki hamari pasandgi to” homo” hai ! batlaiye qurani rasool kahe jane vale loot ji us bhid se apni betiyo se sex karvane ki baat kare aur uska jikar quran me ho usko kaise “holi quran” kaha ja sakta hai ! hazarat lootka jikar bibale me bhi milta hai jsme loot ji se unki sagi do betiya nasha pilakar apne pita se sex karvati hai aur unse dono betiya bachhe bhi paida karleti hai! aise vyakti ko qurani rasool kyo kah jaye? kya aise vyakti samaj ke adarsh kahe ja sakte hai ? dekhe quran 5/5 jisme quran adesh deta hai ki muslim kahe jane vale -isai v yahudi mahilao se nikah[sex] kar sakte hai,aur vahi quran 5/51-56 yah bhi kahati hai ki muslim- isai v yahudiyo ko apna mitr na banaye! batlaye un yahudi v isai mahilose nikah kar lo tab kya vah patni mitr se jyada nahi ho jayegiaur uske abhihavak mitr se jyad rishtedar nahi ban jayenge ! saath me quran ka pakshpat v doharapan bhi dekh lijiye 1 puri quran me yah nahi kah gaya hai ki muslim apni beti- bahano ka nikah isai v yahudiyo se bhi kar de ! yani isai v yahudiyo ki mahilaye chahiye lekin apni mahilao ka nikah unnse nahi karenge! “dusre ke saath vahi vyavhar kijiye jo apne liye bhi pasand aye !” yah sutr hai manvta ka ! lekin quran ka sambandh to isse door- door tak nahi hai ! fir quran ko” holy quran” kyo kaha jaye ?” baidly quran” jarur kaha ja sakta hai ?
Raj ” hazarat loot ka jikar bibale me bhi milta hai jsme loot ji se unki sagi do betiya nasha pilakar apne pita se sex karvati hai aur unse dono betiya bachhe bhi paida karleti hai!” is not in Quran, it is in bible and Muslim don’t belive this and consider this wrong about my prophet loot (pbum). Do some research work.
Quran gives us permission to marry girls from Christanity and Jews with condition that they have to accept Islam. We don’t give our girl to them otherwise they will become one of them. what Paskshpat (partiality) is their in it, rather it is farsightedness. after all Muslims, Christanity and Jew all are Abrahamic.
You says Hinduism talk about manavta and good deed, why it is not showen in you language. I have seen you using bad words for other, for my prophets is this your deeds or teaching of Hinduism?? Of course it is yours not Hinduism..!!!
* IMPORTANT *came to this verse and i was shocked please can you explain me this verse > Atharvaveda mantra 7/37/1- husband should never think about females other than his wives and wife should dress up decently and sensibly covering all body parts. >”covering all body parts.” you mean she should wear a burqa ?? and why should she cover her full body i mean what for ?? plz can give me the source of this reference is this from agniveer’s version of vedas or any western translated version because i never heard this before vedas talks about equality then how come they say “covering all body parts.” its so orthodox belief agniveer ji i love your articles and what vedas say about women and their hard work towards humanity but plz answer this
manniy shri mokhtar ji .jo galat hai unko galat bhi kahana padta hai ! agar apki kamij me koi daag laga hai tab us daag ki charcha bhi hogi ! yahudi v isai mahilao se sex[nikah] bagair unke muslim bane nikah ki baat quran ne kahi hai agar islam kabool karne ke baad nikah ki baat kahi gayi hoti to usme mushrik [murtipujak ] kafir adi bhi shamil rahe hote lekin usme sirf isai v yahudi mahilao ke liye kaha gaya hai ! aur pakistani khiladi imran khan ne ekyaudi mahila se nikah kiya tha usne islam kabool bhi nahi kiya tha bad me dono ka talaq bhi ho gaya hai ! aur vah mahila aaj bhi yahudi hai ! is tarah se islam vyaktiyo ko doharepan ki shisha deta hai ! at: jyada achha rahega ki samajhdar, manvtavadi vyakti ati shighr quran ki sangati chod de !isi me sansar ki bhi bhalai hai !
Pranam to all,
Does anyone have any information on the website called http://www.nirmukta.com ? Who is running that website? They claim to be Atheists but I have a strong suspicion that they are either Muslims or Christians. The reason is that on the one hand they are vehemently attacking Hinduism and on the other hand defending the 3 Abrahamic religions. This is not the normal behavior of Atheists.
Regards,
Vyom
@Vyoman, Nirmukta is run by people with beliefs matching closely with Marxist atheism, who do not believe in the existence of God as well as soul. Some of them are good intellectuals, but most of the bloggers are extremely intolerant to other points of view. Their implicit goal is equality by destroying all religions, castes, income disparities and possibly international boundaries. Their criticism of Hinduism is based on the assumption that bad practices carried out in the name of Hinduism such as caste systems, fake godman, etc. = Hinduism. Also, I found them lacking the understanding of Vedic/Vedanta philosophy and they do not show interest in learning them.
You may read discussion forum of their article “Biocentrism Demystified…..” and read comments by blogger ‘multisenserealism’. I think that guy exposed their lack of knowledge of the entire Eastern spirituality and also their intolerance towards it.
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“The core of Hinduism is defined in Yajurveda 1.5 (Idam Aham Anritaat Satyam Upaimi) – I strive to reject the non-true and accept the true in this present moment. So Hinduism is all about living in present and choosing what is best right now, irrespective of what may have appeared right in past.”
This is true. But the interpretation given following this sentance is incorrect. The truth does not change with time, if it does then it is not truth.
@Abhishek : it depends which truth you are talking about. if ability to walk of an able man is the truth , then one has to understand it hidden means on land, and this truth changes to falsehood if the land is changed to air.
the only sense in which the truth you are talking about hold good is when the ahmkar disappears in and one exists in the plane beyond senses.
well, I suppose here we are talking about Absolute truth and not the one related to the material world !!
As in Bhagvatam says : “Satyam Param Dhimahi”
The words satyam param dhimahi (Srimad-Bhagavatam) indicate that one should search for the Absolute Truth, not the relative truth.
Gurunanak Dev Ji Sait: Adi sach, unadi sach ….
there is a clear distinction between the Material and spiritual (personal quest) domains, and their truths must be distinguished clearly and dealt with as such. because mixing the understanding is detrimental to the society as a whole, as has happened to India, since the advent of puranic times, when people started to mix vedic knowledge with convoluted Purana lores.
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What a nice article. … as according to my opinion Hindu is the person who lives between from the peak of “HI”malaya to “IN”du sagar (Hind Mahasagar – India Ocean) is called HiNDU… Swami Vivekananda says hindus are the most peacefull community who given shelter and chance to grown those communities when they are in danger in their own world… example is very clear today Parasi lives only in India, Islaam got a proper shelter and chance to grown ….. if hindus are communal then can you imagine that Islaam, Christianity and Parasi can grown and survive….never possible… i give you assurance such conditions can’t be find in any country of the world…..it happened because we hindus are most peacefull and caring creatures of the world
I think DHARMA is different than a religion. I believe every person have its own ‘Swadharma’ And according to my information islam and christinity are ‘adharmi’ realegions.
Hello Agniveer ji
Someone in the comment said that we hindus are not united. thats absolutely true.. and the there has reason for this. We hindus are peace loving, caring and dont like fights. If there is a big laborious task to do like making road, making canals or building a temple we hindus will unit and work together, we will with love to do that and even without any pay.. But if any one says lets fight with other and ask to unite in the name of religion, we would not do that blindly, every individual will justify his reason before participating, and may be no one would unit just to fight against another group of people. This ideology is not bad, its infact good, that means we blindly dont follow our religion. we follow it logically and act logically. So, this is the problem in us, you can unit us to do a good task but cant unit to fight a war… I have not seen the whole India yet. so, this is what I feel, yes, I may be wrong though.
Now, I need to know the way to get united. These days money is the fuel to run this world. If there is any event organized by agniveer I can participate it directly as because of my job. Yes there is another option i.e. donating money.. But that will not enrich my mentality. Unless you work physically you wont feel anything.. Another way that is possible is if Agniveer has any branch in my local city, may be I could join there. Also I can participate using my profession.
As I am doing websites, animation, programming etc. I have already taken the knowledge from agniveer now its my turn to give back, I also request agniveer to united with other hindu organizations around the world
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Thank you
I really appreciate your efforts and respect to you to aware all about Vedic shastra and bhartiya sanskriti.
I am with you…Keep it up
Agniveer Agni
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very Good Article… The knowledge it gave , the content and way of writing is really perfect.
a religion and actually a way of life that gives you path, that supports you that loves you.
Relgion Give You way to be a good person, Not says you to stick to it, If after having relgion you are not good person Then relgion is waste
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Agniveer Sir, I am human being in no Veda cannot differentiate aur identify any religion. You talk about humanities in the latest survey Pakistan, Nepal, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka is far far better in social service than Bharat. Then why we feel pround as Hindu. In 27th Apr.-2105 latest survey Pakistan and Bangladesh citizen feel happy than Bharat. 1. Switsherland 5 Canada 108 and 112 pakistan and bangla desh and 118 Bharat, then why we feel pround as Hindu. In 21st Century christian and bodhist do not waste their time and money in religion they believe in nation and humanity progress first only and after thant they think about religion. But we think first baseless religion and after than country reason being become corrupt and loss whole nation. I feel proud as Hindu when my Bharat become courruption free and stand above switcherland.
Is any one there who can tell why married woman pray NAGA baba for getting a child. Why women pray naked babas in obscenity. Is it correct to be touched their privates by woman for taking their blessings? Women think that NAGA baba will grant them child . what type of superstitions is this? Internet is full of these news. Tell me what is happening in India?
@Truth Always Prevails
_______________Tell me what is happening in India____________________
I think India is not good place to live. We all should move to Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, Somalia, etc.
@ Abdu Rasul….And Malaysia, Algeria, UAE and Saudi Arabia are good. Yes or no
This is not the answer of my question. I think, you don’t have answer. Reticent!
@Truth Always Prevails
Why not Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, Somalia, Yaman, Nigeria, etc. at least there are no Nagas Babas and have devout belief in Shariat?
“Hinduism is the ONLY way of life that ALSO offers worship of principles ALONE.” — I dont get this point. Please elaborate!
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I loved your article. I am new to Hinduism and love how you summed up the “way of life” that is often confused as religion. Your article is very well written , highlighting the best qualities about Hinduism. Very insightful and enjoyable to read.
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1. People are born as human beings. Religion is forced on them
2. Vedas is not the oldest ohylosophy in india
Saivism and Vaishnavism are seperate religions of dravidian orgin
3, Vedism or Brahmaism is a seperate religion of aryan orgin
4. Saivaite theology and philosophy is full fledged with all the atributes of God imbubed into it.
5. Hinduism is dependent on the hintutva way of life which again is dependent on the caste system for survival
6. destroy caste system and hinduism will cola
1- Dear Rajeshwar Hinduism is not a religion, it’s a way of life and Supreme Court of India also have stated it in his one decision.
2- Nobody have any doubt about the Vedas as oldest text not only of India’s whether as the oldest text of the world. New study made by the IIT Kharagpur have proved that the Vedas existed before the Indus valley Civilization in the oral form. Shaivism and Vaishnavism are the part of Hinduism.
4- Indo-Aryan migration theory have been proved wrong.
Hahaha… madarsachaap Spotted !! A little knowledge is dangerous things.
I am a Hindu and proud – I know that – do not care what other religion or their pope, bishop , imam, prophet or whomever say – Hindu or santhana Dharma is a evolving one an is eternal
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