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‘Allegedly’, some lawyers beat up president of JNU student union for ‘allegedly’ organizing an anti-national event within university premises. And if this ‘allegedly’ happened, majority of Indians ‘allegedly’ support it. And ‘allegedly’, I also hail from nationalist majority.

(‘Alleged’ is a wonderful word I have thankfully adopted from pigeral journalists. They make any criminal ‘allegation’ on anyone who causes them heart-burn. And yet sneak away from legal implications due to wrappers like ‘alleged’ or ‘allegedly’. Their defense is that they are not making any claims. They are merely sharing a piece of information without being responsible for its authenticity or relevance.)

Pigeral: Why do you support an illegal act?

Agniveer:
  1. Look who is grunting! The person had organized an event in support of a dreaded terrorist who was legally punished by highest court of India. If you are so respectful of law, why have you been so vocal in support of a gruesome crime that was ‘rarest of rare’ as per legal proceedings?If you can support rallies and anniversaries in memory of dreaded terrorists who kill and wage a war against state, why my support for someone who merely thrashed an ‘alleged’ terrorist henchman causes you acidity?
  2. By endorsing this anti-national event and people behind it, you have clearly stated that you have no faith in Indian legal system. All through you have been alleging that all courts of India up to Supreme Court and the President of county were driven by ulterior motives to hang Afzal Guru. What brings this sudden love for legalities now? Is it that you remember law only when slapped. And conveniently forget it when it comes to standing for nation and questioning the deeds of terrorists? Is it that terrorists are financing your opulent lives through laundering?Or is it that you are shit scared to speak against terrorists? Or it is just a general hatred towards mainstream Indians?
  3. Law is not my domain. But I have respect for the sentiments that led to this thrashing. Lawyers did not thrash him for publicity or money. They thrashed him despite risk of being punished by law. They thrashed him because they love India. Bhagat Singh and Chandrasekhar Azad are our heroes even if they killed. Gandhi said about Bhagat Singh that despite his difference with methods, he still respects the sentiments of the great hero. Netaji saluted him wholeheartedly. Later Netaji himself committed ‘illegal’ acts to fight for nation. Netaji is my hero. My support is for the sentiments.
  4. I also believe that such incidents act as deterrents against designs of terrorists. You cannot pass burden of public safety on security forces alone. In a country where episodes like 26/11 happen, and where ISIS openly called war against cow-lovers, where Pathankot keeps happening, every citizen must be proactive. Next time anti-Indians would be shit-scared to indulge in anti-national activities. How legally or ethically correct it is – is for analysts to decide who merely analyze and rarely act. But in extreme situations, extreme measures that go beyond normal call of duty are necessary. At least that is what the  story of war of independence of India teaches us.

Non Violence Agniveer

Pigeral: You are openly supporting act of violence!!!!???!!***##!!

Agniveer:
  1. I am supporting the sentiment that brings anger against terrorists and anti-nationals. I have nowhere stated that one should indulge in acts of violence.
  2. All I say is that I will make my contributions to ensure that the lawyers get a fair trial.
  3. And if someone threatens my motherland, I will do whatever is best for my nation to best of my intent and capabilities, without revising Indian Penal Code.

Pigeral: Does it mean you will beat up people who support Afzal Guru?

Agniveer:
  1. I will beat up any person who can commit an act of terror. If I were in Mumbai on 26/11, I would have definitely beaten up Ajmal Kasab before the first firing if there was a chance. Anyone who would have done it would have been my hero. And hero of millions of Indians.
  2. The slogan raised in JNU was : “You have killed one Afzal. We will create thousands of Afzals”. Now Afzal was a terrorist responsible for attack on parliament. He was part of the cartel that killed thousands of Kashmiri Pandits, and orchestrated bomb blasts across India. How can one take such a slogan casually. Who knows JNU president and others supporting him were planning an attack in Patiala House that got scuttled due to this thrashing.

Pigeral: Ridiculous! How do you know they were planning an attack?

Agniveer:
  1. Why should I even know. The moment someone raises such brazenly anti-national slogans threatening to kill people, only a fool will take chances. These jihadis have been killing indiscriminately in Paris, Pathankot, Boston, Australia, Syria, Nigeria, Israel, and innumerable places. They would randomly start killing people with minimal planning. How do I trust intelligence of such zombies? What should one have done if he was suspicious of Ajmal Kasab on 26/11. Wait to inform police or scuttle the attack in whatever way he could.
  2. The point is – moment one threatens to kill me in thousands, I can take no chances. I would do whatever is necessary to protect lives. Law allows even killing in self-defense. Here, it is matter of thousands of lives. There is precedence of such attacks as well as clear and present threat. No additional information is needed for a civilian to take pre-emptive action in such rare cases.

Pigeral: Why they attacked journalists?

Agniveer:

Why were journalists lined up to support an anti-national? Maybe the lawyers thought the journalists were also anti-national and did whatever is best to prevent a terror attack. If a nationalist innocent was thrashed, that is too small a price to pay for safety of thousands. They should take it in spirit and forgive the lawyers. Once CBI director Joginder Singh was thoroughly checked because there was a most wanted terrorist by same name. He took it in spirit.

Pigeral: You mean you will thrash anyone who has a difference of opinion. This is height of intolerance.

Agniveer:

No I will never thrash or even verbally hurt anyone who has a different opinion. You can love Bajirao Mastani or Dilwale. You can support odd-even rule in Delhi or not. You have full freedom. But if you threaten to orchestrate thousands of terror-attacks, I will thrash you before you plan the first one.

Pigerals are showing intolerance by supporting a terrorist who killed and raped thousands of innocents.

Pigeral: You are a fanatic. Afzal Guru never raped or killed anyone. Kanhaia Kumar did not raise any slogans. Why you are against them?

Agniveer:

Afzal Guru was declared a terrorist by Supreme Court and President after a long-drawn proceeding. It does not matter if he directly raped and killed. What matters is that he was working for the gang that raped and killed. Kanhaia Kumar was president of student union that approves such events. Osama bin Laden also did not crash the planes over Twin Towers. He was sitting in other part of world away from internet, TV, mobile or landline. Had he been in the plane, he would have been enjoying 72 virgins in Paradise. There would have been no need to launch the biggest manhunt of human history.

In matters of national security, even being a neutral observer will not suffice. If one did not take proactive actions despite knowing about the anti-national event, he is a henchman of terrorists. To save other innocent lives, he must be cut to size.

Pigeral: Let law take its course. Why should you intervene?

Agniveer:
  1. Same holds for Afzal Guru. Law has taken its course. Why are you acting as Sharia court and issuing fatwas?
  1. In matters of national security and saving lives, every citizen must proactively intervene to prevent any terror attack. They must not wait for doom to happen and take pre-emptive measures at first instance. If we do so, the chances of Pathankot, Mumbai attacks, Akshardham, Sankatmochan, Charlie Hebdo, Paris attacks will substantially reduce.

It is better to raise false alarms than stay mum in fear of bellicose temperament of pigerals.

Violent Agniveer

Pigeral: Who is a pigeral?

Agniveer:

Use your pig-head. It is ‘allegedly’ a ‘pig’ who endorses ‘liberal’ who endorses ‘pig’ who endorses ‘liberal’ who endorses ‘pig’ who …….

Pigeral: Why you use such abusive terms?

Agniveer:

What is abusive about ‘pig’? I thought you get offended by ‘cow’.

What about terms like ‘bhakt’, ‘fanatic’, ‘intolerant’, ‘right-winged’, ‘fundamentalist’ – that are not even symbolic. You directly abuse me and people like me because we love India.

Pigeral: Will you support if someone beats up reputed journalists like Barkha, Rajdeep, Sagarika, blah blah?

Agniveer:

I will let know my views when that happens.

Disclaimer: I think that whatever has been written is ‘allegedly’ a work of fiction. Any resemblance to pigs, pigerals is probably coincidental. I am not sure. But perhaps I am true. If you are a pigeral who feels offended and gets burnt, you have two great solutions. If it is heart-burn due to acidity, believe me, that is not because of the article but indulging in certain acts immediately after supper. Try Eno for Jhat Se Aaraam. If it is a burning sensation somewhere in rear, try burnol. But don’t troll. That will only increase the burn.

– Sanjeev Newar

Agniveer

Sanjeev Newar is a data scientist by profession. His risk management products have been named in top 20 of world for 2014 and 2015. He is the only Indian (and Asian) to have ever made to this list. He has been behind several inclusive and encompassing innovations. He is a mentor to several eminent young scientists of country. Sanjeev is an alumnus of IIT Guwahati and IIM Calcutta.

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24 COMMENTS

  1. Questions:-

    1. Which of the following below is true?

    A) God is present everywhere
    B) God is present nowhere
    C) God is present somewhere (somewhere strictly mean Jannat or Allah’s throne above 7 heavens)- See translation of yusuf ali/Pickthall Quran 67:16 to 67:18
    D) In idol

    2. Who will be the permanent resident (Green card holder) of Hell?

    A) Great Ghazi Kings like Mohammed Bin Qasim who killed several thousand Hindu men in Sind and Multan and then captured weeping 100,000 women and children ,made them slaves and send 30,000 of them to Iraq who after doing all these say (In Arabic) “Allah is great; There is no god but Allah and Mohammed is his prophet” five times a day 11) And then another Ghazi king Mahmud who killed ,enslaved 500,000 Hindus of Afghanistan, FATA, Khyberpakhtoonkhwa and Punjab.

    B) A Hindu who does not harm any one follow Ahimsa, worship forms of God (or signs of God) Lord Shiva, Lord Vishnu by worshipping the idols of pristine temples

    c) Allah is the best judge. Allah knows the Best

    3. Select from below the TRUE statement?

    A) Smart Musa Nabi who can distinguish the sentence in Arabic he heard to be from Allah and understand that it is not made by some one using loud speaker. Btw he saw a bush fire which is sign from Allah ???

    B) Not so smart Moses of Christians and Jews, who will doubt whether the sentence (in Hebrew/Aramaic/Canaanite/ancient Egyptian), is from Yahweh or some one using loudspeaker; so Yahweh appeared as a boy (like in movie “Exodus Gods and kings”) or rather made Moses saw a boy’s image speaking

    C) God appears as Lord Shiva, Godess Durga to dumb Hindu bhaktas

    4). which of below is most logical?

    A) Soul has birth (DOB?) and death
    B) Soul has no birth or death
    C) Soul has no birth (ie soul is never created) but has death (it will be destroyed)
    D) Soul has birth (ie soul is created by Allah) but has no death

    there are many other theological issues with islam .I will post later

    • MD Sadruddin,

      Allah hates idol worshippers. When i prostrate before idols Allah is very angry on me and want to sent me till eternity to HELL. Allah is angry when muslims sing Vande mataram ?

      But, wait a minute. This is some thing from Pickthall’s translation of Quran. Sura al – baqara.2:34

      002.034 And when We said unto the angels: Prostrate yourselves before Adam, they fell prostrate, all save Iblis. He demurred through pride, and so became a disbeliever.

      Iblis(Satan) did’nt prostrate before Adam and thus became disbeliever? He was avoiding shirk!!!! Here We is Allah

      Many muslim apologists defend this by saying Iblis is made of fire and his prostartion is not like humans do. This story happened in another realm , it should not be compared to earthly life etc. Here prostration means just show respect. I am sure you will join them.

      Btw, i am not clear on below ayat. As you would agree quran is supposed to be crystal clear message written in most unambigous language(viz arabic). Still i am not clear on below

      Who saw whom? Did Nabi saw Allah???

      sura an najm 53:12-Yusuf ali translation:-

      “For indeed he saw him at a second descent”

      • Why you people always talk about islam,the article is on sedition case but you people are talking on islam, looks like you are more concerned about islam than the nation ,always criticizing islam.

      • Mr.Hindu, look, i’m not here to defence islam but to talk on humanity.i do not believe in any established religion but in GOD do believe,the GOD who created us and who wants us to support each other in diffculties. Every religion talks in ambiguity which creates confusion amongst the followers.so,instead of wasting on a religion,we should work for the betterment of humanity.

  2. Questions:-

    1. Which of the following below is true?

    A) God is present everywhere
    B) God is present nowhere
    C) God is present somewhere (somewhere strictly mean Jannat or Allah’s throne above 7 heavens)- See translation of yusuf ali/Pickthall Quran 67:16 to 67:18
    D) In idol

    2. Who will be the permanent resident (Green card holder) of Hell?

    A) Great Ghazi Kings like Mohammed Bin Qasim who killed several thousand Hindu men in Sind and Multan and then captured weeping 100,000 women and children ,made them slaves and send 30,000 of them to Iraq who after doing all these say (In Arabic) “Allah is great; There is no god but Allah and Mohammed is his prophet” five times a day 11) And then another Ghazi king Mahmud who killed ,enslaved 500,000 Hindus of Afghanistan, FATA, Khyberpakhtoonkhwa and Punjab.

    B) A Hindu who does not harm any one follow Ahimsa, worship forms of God (or signs of God) Lord Shiva, Lord Vishnu by worshipping the idols of pristine temples

    c) Allah is the best judge. Allah knows the Best

    3. Select from below the TRUE statement?

    A) Smart Musa Nabi who can distinguish the sentence in Arabic he heard to be from Allah and understand that it is not made by some one using loud speaker. Btw he saw a bush fire which is sign from Allah ???

    B) Not so smart Moses of Christians and Jews, who will doubt whether the sentence (in Hebrew/Aramaic/Canaanite/ancient Egyptian), is from Yahweh or some one using loudspeaker; so Yahweh appeared as a boy (like in movie “Exodus Gods and kings”) or rather made Moses saw a boy’s image speaking

    C) God appears as Lord Shiva, Godess Durga to dumb Hindu bhaktas

    4). which of below is most logical?

    A) Soul has birth (DOB?) and death
    B) Soul has no birth or death
    C) Soul has no birth (ie soul is never created) but has death (it will be destroyed)
    D) Soul has birth (ie soul is created by Allah) but has no death

  3. Mr.Indian, why you people trying to show that islam is in war with hindus,it’s not a battle between the two communities but a political battle between the two nation,i.e;india and pakistan for kashmir. both have been fighting since the partition for kashmir.please don’t try to show that it’s a battle between the two communities.we in india living peacefully,don’t try to disturb the bonding.

    • Questions:-

      1. Which of the following below is true?

      A) God is present everywhere
      B) God is present nowhere
      C) God is present somewhere (somewhere strictly mean Jannat or Allah’s throne above 7 heavens)- See translation of yusuf ali/Pickthall Quran 67:16 to 67:18
      D) In idol

      2. Who will be the permanent resident (Green card holder) of Hell?

      A) Great Ghazi Kings like Mohammed Bin Qasim who killed several thousand Hindu men in Sind and Multan and then captured weeping 100,000 women and children ,made them slaves and send 30,000 of them to Iraq who after doing all these say (In Arabic) “Allah is great; There is no god but Allah and Mohammed is his prophet” five times a day 11) And then another Ghazi king Mahmud who killed ,enslaved 500,000 Hindus of Afghanistan, FATA, Khyberpakhtoonkhwa and Punjab.

      B) A Hindu who does not harm any one follow Ahimsa, worship forms of God (or signs of God) Lord Shiva, Lord Vishnu by worshipping the idols of pristine temples

      c) Allah is the best judge. Allah knows the Best

      3. Select from below the TRUE statement?

      A) Smart Musa Nabi who can distinguish the sentence in Arabic he heard to be from Allah and understand that it is not made by some one using loud speaker. Btw he saw a bush fire which is sign from Allah ???

      B) Not so smart Moses of Christians and Jews, who will doubt whether the sentence (in Hebrew/Aramaic/Canaanite/ancient Egyptian), is from Yahweh or some one using loudspeaker; so Yahweh appeared as a boy (like in movie “Exodus Gods and kings”) or rather made Moses saw a boy’s image speaking

      C) God appears as Lord Shiva, Godess Durga to dumb Hindu bhaktas

      4). which of below is most logical?

      A) Soul has birth (DOB?) and death
      B) Soul has no birth or death
      C) Soul has no birth (ie soul is never created) but has death (it will be destroyed)
      D) Soul has birth (ie soul is created by Allah) but has no death

      • Hindu
        i answered ur question, asking same question again and again that indicate ur escaping from the truth & fact…

      • You haven’t answered. If you already answered just paste your logical answers it so that every one can see what you claim is true. Otherwise I will keep questioning until a satisfactory logical answer is receieved

      • Q1>
        ACCORDING TO ISLAM GOD /ALLHA EXISTENCE ABOVE OUR UNIVERSE ,HIS POWER SPREAD ALL THE PARTICLES OF UNIVERSE……….

      • universe is ever expanding right now.so i dont understand what do you mean above universe… Which direction is above?

        why pickthall/yusufali translated to in the heavens and no one complained throughout 20th century.why this change in meaning now? 67:16-18

  4. India is agriculture country but who is suffering the most – farmers. Everyone of us is either directly or indirectly related to our farming community then how come we have become so selfish and greedy that we are trying our best to exploit the farmers. These people are the most hard working and they do their best efforts to give agricultural products to the country but see how their situation is so pathetic. Shame on this type of education that traps illiterate farmers and forces them to suicide to get rid of all the miseries. We indians do not mind spending money in any lavish celebrations, even millions to temples but can’t spend some amount of money to any charity to help poor people.

    • You are right most suffering people nowadays are only farmers because we are eating useless things like pizza, burger, hot dog, cold dog and so on.These items are directly imported by videshi company to destroy our country’s agriculture.

      • Mr. Tungariya,now you people decide what should we eat,if people do not like traditional foods,farmers should start growing modern materials.

      • We aren’t decididing what you should eat,that is your business.We are merely taking initiative at an individual level if you have a problem with others unharmful initiatives then you should meet a psychiatrist

  5. Wonderful article Sanjeev,
    I heartily support you and Agniveer
    All our articles are in the line of righteous and truth. There is no any concept of violence or communism. It is just devotion to the nation and spirit of being a true Hindu.

    Thanks a lot.

  6. I do not only blame the islamic fanatics for targeting Hindus. I also blame Hindus who have allowed themselves to be so extreme tolerant that they do not care about Islamic extremism that is killing and destroying their own culture and country. Hindus have become very immune to this. Millions of Hindu will assemble at Kumbh mela or any other religious ceremony but they will not assemble when Hindus are targeted in Kashmir or in any other part of the country.

    Hindus should rise above caste system, language and regional barriers and make sure that no one could spread any type of violence in this country. If Hindus get united, they can also understand how different political parties are sponsoring terrorism or creating divisions among them. Most of the terrorist attacks in India are state sponsored unless, these are sponsored by ISI and other foreign terrorist organizations. Hindus must collectively respond against any terrorism and should not be complacent because he or she is not personally affected. They must be united and must have a collective mindset as Hindus to stand against the Islamic terrorism. Hindus need to change their mental attitude and must not tolerate any type of killing in any part of the country. I would say even muslims should also join them in this endeavor as their ancestors were also Hindus. But it will not be easy for muslim brethren to acknowledge that their ancestors were muslims as Islamic mullah community will not tolerate that. Then they should reject this islamic fabric as blood is thicker than water. Your compassionate DNA must be thicker and mightier than violent doctrine that only kills you and everyone around you.

  7. I simply do not understand that why mainstream indians need to defend their actions against Pigerals. How long Hindus will accept to be killed? There are about 40 reported and unreported terrorist attacks per month in India. India is suffering more terrorist acts than any other country but why media or these so called Pigerals remain quiet. We do have very serious Islamic threats in this country. Though not all muslims support terrorism but they do not strongly reject terrorism too. Though terrorism does not belong to any religion but currently throughout the world, terrorism is using Islam as a cover to spread violence t extent that both have become synonym.
    So every devout and true muslim who believes strongly that Islam should be only the religion of love and peace, must condemn the terrorism and wipe out this cancer from their religion. The real meaning of the religion is to show love, compassion that leads to almighty. So how attacking or killing any person make you islamic. There is something very wrong in its foundation. Intellectuals from Islamic community should reform this religion so that it does not give birth to the fanatics. It not only hurts other community but also damages Islam too. If it’s not possible due to strict doctrine system, then every intellectual should reject Islam as this religion spreads riots, violence and suppression.
    Think about it , what do you gain in destruction. Nothing.

    • #but they do not strongly reject terrorism too…………..

      brother we muslim against the all the terrorist activities all over the world (did by Muslim namers & other people )

      i am not the supporter of afsal guru (he was criminal,punished our judiciary /law system)

      to sanjeeve

      don’t use “jihadi’s ” for representing terrorist ,they r criminals ,not part of Islam ,jihad was an divine/pure word for using moral /ideal people who fight against their enemy for protection of their ppl blood and property ,
      Muslim :: Book 30 : Hadith 5689
      …………..I am not afraid that you would associate anything with Allah after me, but I am afraid that you may be (allured) by the world and (vie) with one another (in possessing material wealth) and begin killing one another, and you would be destroyed as were destroyed those who had gone before you. ‘Uqba said that that was the last occasion that he saw Allah’s Massenger on the pulpit.
      5: 32. Because of that We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land – it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind………….
      22:39. Permission to fight is given to those (i.e. believers against disbelievers), who are fighting them, (and) because they (believers) have been wronged, and surely, Allâh is Able to give them (believers) victory

    • #but they do not strongly reject terrorism too…………..

      brother we muslim against the all the terrorist activities all over the world (did by Muslim namers & other people )

      i am not the supporter of afsal guru (he was criminal,punished our judiciary /law system)

      to sanjeeve

      don’t use “jihadi’s ” for representing terrorist ,they r criminals ,not part of Islam ,jihad was an divine/pure word for using moral /ideal people who fight against their enemy for protection of their ppl blood and property ,
      Muslim :: Book 30 : Hadith 5689
      …………..I am not afraid that you would associate anything with Allah after me, but I am afraid that you may be (allured) by the world and (vie) with one another (in possessing material wealth) and begin killing one another, and you would be destroyed as were destroyed those who had gone before you. ‘Uqba said that that was the last occasion that he saw Allah’s Massenger on the pulpit.
      5: 32. Because of that We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land – it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind………….
      22:39. Permission to fight is given to those (i.e. believers against disbelievers), who are fighting them, (and) because they (believers) have been wronged, and surely, Allâh is Able to give them (believers) victory
      ______________________________________________________________________________

  8. Wonderful write up Sanjeev!

    Pigeral: Will you support if someone beats up reputed journalists like Barkha, Rajdeep, Sagarika, blah blah?

    Are they reputed journalists? They are shallow vessels.

    They are definitely one of this kind –
    i) Is it that terrorists are financing your opulent lives through laundering?
    ii) Or is it that you are shit scared to speak against terrorists?
    iii) Or it is just a general hatred towards mainstream Indians?

    And I will enjoy if someone beats up them for one of being this kind.

    • All are free to express their opinions in India, so are you, Sir. But, Lawlessness amongst legal professionals is unfortunate and more unfortunate is supporting them. Your website might offer some interesting views but not that all is worth accepting and supporting in particular the violence by lawyers in or around court premises should not be supported under the garb of any sort of arguments.

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