- Sita’s Agnipariksha in Ramayan
- Polygamy in Hinduism
- FAQ on Hinduism – IITian thrashes Zakir Naik
- ‘Concept of God in Hinduism’
- Introduction to Hinduism (edited with comments)
- Prophet in Hindu Scriptures – Vedas (Part 3)
- Prophet in Hindu Scriptures – Bhavishya Puran (Part 2)
- Prophet in Hindu Scriptures – An analysis (Part 1)
In the concluding part of Dr Naik’s research on Hinduism, the self-proclaimed expert on religions provides an FAQ – Frequently Asked Questions on Hinduism. Its a relatively longer article and bulk of it is devoted to either represent the debates between various schools of thought in Hinduism for his own Islamic end, or to narrate wisdom of Quran.
Instead of analyzing the entire article, I shall provide review of selected portions. To test if the rice is cooked or not, we just take a few grains out of cooker and test. This is an established way of rejecting fraud as per Darshan Shastras.You can review the entire article at http://www.irf.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=200&Itemid=134 and laugh to your heart’s content.
I shall, as usual provide quotes from Dr Naik’s article and follow with comments in bold italics.
(Please note that this analysis relates to Dr Naik’s neo-wahabi version of Islam which is significantly different from the rational Islam of scientists like Dr APJ and Dr Pervez Hoodbhoy. In fact it is a religion in itself with its own history and tenets and rejects the Islam followed by majority of world. The only commonality is misuse of common terms like Quran , Prophet, Islam, Muslim etc.)
Dr Naik:
“When I was discussing with a Swami in IRF. He said that when our child asks us, “Why does the sky thunder?”, we reply that “aaee ma chakki pees rahi hai”, the grandmother is grinding flour in the heaven; because he is too young to understand. Similarly in the initial stages people require an idol for concentration.
In Islam we don’t believe in telling a lie, even if it’s a white lie. I will never give such a wrong answer to my child because later on when he goes to school and learns that the thundering sound after lightning is due to the expansion of rapidly heated air, he will either think that the teacher is lying or later on when he understands the fact he will conclude that the father is a liar. If you feel that the child may not understand certain difficult things you should simplify the answer rather than give a wrong fictitious reply. If you, yourself do not know the answer, you should have the guts to be truthful and say ‘I don’t know’. But many children nowadays will not be satisfied with this answer. If this answer was given to my son, he would say “Abba (father), why don’t you know?’ This will compel you to do your homework and thus educate yourself as well as your child.”
Comment:
(1. While I agree that children should not be misled, this is a disease that came only after advent of foreigners. Before that most people used to be in gurukuls and used to learn sciences systematically.
2. But if in neo-Wahabi Islam, they do not believe in telling a white lie or giving wrong answer, Dr Naik should either re-read the very books he wants to establish as final version of God’s message, or admit that he himself has committed a sin by lying in this article, or admit that Allah himself lies. I shall now provide excerpts from Islamic texts recommended by IRF on how they explain various phenomena.
(Note that we are referring to neo-Wahabi texts recommended by IRF as authentic Islamic texts. We no way imply that they represent actual sources of Islam)
A. What is plague?
Bukhari Volume 8, Book 77, Number 616:
Narrated ‘Aisha:
I asked Allah’s Apostle about the plague. He said, “That was a means of torture which Allah used to send upon whom-so-ever He wished, but He made it a source of mercy for the believers, for anyone who is residing in a town in which this disease is present, and remains there and does not leave that town, but has patience and hopes for Allah’s reward, and knows that nothing will befall him except what Allah has written for him, then he will get such reward as that of a martyr.”
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Narrated Anas bin Malik:
Allah’s Apostle said, “(Death from) plague is martyrdom for every Muslim.”
Bukhari Volume 7, Book 71, Number 629:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet said, “He (a Muslim) who dies of an abdominal disease is a a martyr, and he who dies of plague is a martyr.”
THUS PLAGUE IS A TORTURE THAT MAKES YOU MARTYR!
B. How to treat one from flies?
Pharmacies can sell the fly wings which has cure.
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah’s Apostle said, “If a fly falls in the vessel of any of you, let him dip all of it (into the vessel) and then throw it away, for in one of its wings there is a disease and in the other there is healing (antidote for it) i e. the treatment for that disease.”
Narrated Anas bin Malik:
The Prophet said, “At every womb Allah appoints an angel who says, ‘O Lord! A drop of semen, O Lord! A clot. O Lord! A little lump of flesh.” Then if Allah wishes (to complete) its creation, the angel asks, (O Lord!) Will it be a male or female, a wretched or a blessed, and how much will his provision be? And what will his age be?’ So all that is written while the child is still in the mother’s womb.”
Narrated ‘Abdullah bin Mus’ud:
Allah’s Apostle, said, ” a human being is put together in the womb of the mother in forty days, and then he becomes a clot of thick blood for a similar period, and then a piece of flesh for a similar period. Then Allah sends an angel who is ordered to write four things. He is ordered to write down his (i.e. the new creature’s) deeds, his livelihood, his (date of) death, and whether he will be blessed or wretched (in religion). Then the soul is breathed into him..”
Narrated ‘Aisha:
The Prophet said, “Kill the snake with two white lines on its back, for it blinds the on-looker and causes abortion.”Bukhari Volume 4, Book 54, Number 528:
Narrated ‘Aisha:
The Prophet ordered that a short-tailed or mutilated-tailed snake (i.e. Abtar) should be killed, for it blinds the on-looker and causes abortion.”Volume 4, Book 54, Number 529:
Narrated Abu Mulaika:
Prophet said, ‘Do not kill snakes except the short-tailed or mutilated-tailed snake with two white lines on its back, for it causes abortion and makes one blind. So kill it.’
“Allah’s Apostle said, ‘Gabriel has just now told me of the answer. If a man has sexual intercourse with his wife and gets discharge first, the child will resemble him, and if the woman gets discharge first, the child will resemble her.'”
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet said, “When any human being is born. Satan touches him at both sides of the body with his two fingers, except Jesus, the son of Mary, whom Satan tried to touch but failed, for he touched the placenta-cover instead.”
Bukhari Volume 1, Book 4, Number 188:
Narrated Ibn Shihab:
Mahmud bin Ar-Rabi’ who was the person on whose face the Prophet had ejected a mouthful of water from his family’s well while he was a boy, and ‘Urwa (on the authority of Al-Miswar and others) who testified each other, said, “Whenever the Prophet , performed ablution, his companions were nearly fighting for the remains of the water.”
(1. I agree with the first two sentences. But rest is hoax. No text apart from Vedas can claim freedom from any scope of interpolations. This is not merely based on memory of people who mugged it, but also by a mechanism of 10 different ways of reciting it, which exactly match even today. The gurukuls teaching these Paatha vidhis are thriving till today. Even the Christian indologists who studied Vedas thoroughly, could not cite one single evidence to claim any kind of interpolation in Vedas. For more on this, please read Unchangeable Vedas.
3. When was the original Quran made? Much after death of Muhammad. Further Quran did not reveal in one go. It was revealed throughout the life of Muhammad. And for first fifteen years, Muhammad had no resources to even write the Quran. Even the Ayat 2.106 of Quran itself admits that not everything can be remembered. Even the Arabic script was not developed that time and no Quran of Muhammad’s time exists.
4. Quran is supposed to be written by Muhammad’s followers after his death. Now these followers were killing each other for power, and included his beloved wife Aisha, whom he had married when she was 6 years old, and in whose company most Ayats were revealed. Many Muslims thus refuse to respect Aisha as an authentic person. How can one consider such people to have had capability to transmit Allah’s message of Peace without distortions? But these are matters of personal faith. Using these as ploys to denigrate other religions is indeed shameful.
For a religion to be considered the best, it should have the solution to all the problems of mankind. It should be the religion of truth, and should be applicable to all ages. Islam is the only religion which has the solution to all the problems of mankind. e.g. the problem of alcoholism, surplus women, rape and molestation, robbery, racism, casteism, etc.Islam is the religion of truth, and its laws and solutions are applicable to all the ages. The Qur’an is the only religious book on the face of the earth, which has maintained its purity and authenticity proving itself to be the word of God in all the ages. i.e. previously, when it was the age of miracles, literature and poetry and in present times when it is the age of science and technology. Moreover, Islam is not a man-made religion, but a religion revealed and inspired by Almighty God. It is the only religion acceptable in His Sight.”
(1. I thought this was a FAQ on Hinduism and not Islam. Anyways, before making such far-fetched claims, Dr Naik should decide which of the 73 sects of Islam is actually true Islam. Because rest will go to Hell as per Islamic hadiths. Refer 73 Sects of Islam and One True Jamaat
(If that be so, why do Muslims create a permanent structure around the burial? Why do they constuct Kabras, Makbaras and memorials on places of death that remain unused for ages to come? The fact is that practice of burial permanently wastes land space. The practice of cremation ensures that neither does decaying body spread disease nor it occupies further place.)
(Bindi or Mangalsutra is not a necessary sign for all Hindu women. It is of much recent origin and is not mentioned in ancient texts of rituals. It became famous as an aesthetic concept later. In fact it became more popular because of Islamic invasions. The evils of Purdah system and Sati also started from times when Muslim invaders would kill men and rape women. Even today, plight of Hindus in Bangladesh is well known. Thus Bindi and Mangalsutra became signs of married women to at least spare them from torment of invaders.
Islam besides pointing out a crime, it also gives you a solution showing how to prevent the crime e.g. chopping the hands of a robber, death penalty for the rapist. The punishment is so severe that it is a deterrent for the criminal to commit the crime. He will think a hundred times before committing a crime.Thus if crime has to be reduced or stopped in India the best solution is to implement ‘The Common Islamic Criminal Law’.”
Regarding the question of which prophet of God was sent to India, and can we consider Ram or Krishna to be prophets of God, there is no text in the Qur’an or Sahih Hadith mentioning the name of the prophet that was sent to India. Since the names of Ram and Krishna are nowhere to be found in the Qur’an and Sahih Hadith, one cannot say for sure whether they were prophets of God or not. Some Muslims, especially certain Muslim politicians who try to appease the Hindus, say Ram Alai-his-salaam, i.e. Ram, may peace be on him. This is totally wrong, since there is no authentic proof from the Qur’an and Sahih Hadith that he was a prophet of God. However, a person may say that perhaps they may have been the prophets of God.Even if Ram and Krishna were prophets, today we have to follow the last Prophet of God i.e. Muhammad (pbuh)
Even if Ram and Krishna were prophets of God, they were only meant for people of that time and were to be followed only for that particular period of time. Today, all the human beings throughout the world, including India should only follow the last and final prophet and Messenger of God – prophet Muhammad (pbuh).”
(1. No text in Quran mentions Ram and Krishna because Muhammad was too ignorant of the traditions of the East in same way as Europe was ignorant of America before Columbus. Or else how could Allah have forgotten to mention about beliefs of more than 50% of world population then?
“The question that arises is “which revelation of God was sent to India and whether we can consider the Vedas and the other Hindu Scriptures to be the revelations of God?” There is no text in the Qur’an or Sahih Hadith mentioning the name of the revelation that was sent to India. Since the names of the Vedas or other Hindu scriptures are no where to be found in Qur’an and Sahih Hadith, one cannot say for sure that they were the revelations of God. They may be the revelation of God or may not be the revelation of God.
Even if the Veda was the word of God today you have to follow the Qur’an
Even if the Vedas and the other scriptures were the revelations from God, they were only meant for people of that time and were to be followed only for that particular period of time. Today all human beings through out the world including India should only follow the last and final Revelation of God, i.e. the Qur’an. Moreover since all the previous revelations were not meant to be followed for eternity, Almighty God did not preserve them in their original form. There is not a single religious scripture of any of the major religions which claims to be the word of God and has maintained its pure original text and is free from alteration, adulteration and interpolation. Since the Glorious Qur’an is to be followed for eternity, Allah (swt) has taken upon Himself to maintain its original purity and guard it from corruption. Allah says in Glorious Qur’an.”
(1. Here his hypocrisy is finally caught. And Dr Naik should either chop his hands or get himself lashed after consulting Islamic Criminal Law. He is suddenly in doubt whether Vedas are revelations or not. But larger part of his entire thesis rests on proving that Vedas prophesise Prophet Muhammad. If Vedas give revelations about Prophet Muhammad, population of Mecca, companions of Muhammad, and even number of leaders he fought against, what remains to have doubt on Vedas being revelations and being Prophetic by prophesising Prophet Muhammad?
Even in the Rigveda which is the most sacred scripture of the Hindus, one of the attributes given to God Almighty in Book no 2 Hymn no I verse II, is ‘Ila’ which if pronounced properly is the same as Allah.Allo Upanishad:
Amongst the various Upanishads one of the Upanishad is named as ‘Allo’ Upanishad in which God is referred to as “Allah” several times.”
(1.One does admit that Muhammad did not discover a new language (He was illiterate by the way). So he used words of the prevalent language. And Arabic definitely is derived from Vedic Sanskrit which is the mother of all languages. So Allah can derive from ‘Ila” in Hinduism. We are happy to see Dr Naik finally accepting his Vedic roots. So he should come back to the basics and start using ‘Ila’ to worship ‘Allah’. Further he should also come back to roots of ‘Naik’ which is ‘Naayak’ of Sanskrit and accept the Vedic language and worship in totality. We would be glad to teach him and help him forget his hypocritical ways.
A more critical analysis of Quran and such spurious claims are found here: Chapter 14
Having concluded this commentary on Dr Zakir Naik’s research into Hinduism, we come to following conclusions:
a. If Muhammad is in Hindu Scriptures, he was a ghost, demon and mass-murderer. This is insult of both the revered Prophet and Hinduism.
b. Dr Zakir Naik and IRF is proven to have committed hypocrisy and falsehood, and hence should punish themselves as per neo-Wahabi Islamic Criminal Law (cutting off-hands, lashing or whatever)
c. The authenticity of neo-Wahabi Quran is questionable. Its is also not as prophetic as Vedas. So Dr Naik and IRF should embrace the Vedas and change their and Allah’s name as per vedic traditions.
d. In any case, challenge to Dr Naik is still open.
e. The basis of Dr Naik’s logic is Poison=Death=Rest=Peace=Islam, hence Poison = Islam
Al truth-seekers are appealed to reject the path of falsehood and embrace truth and truth alone. Or have their hands chopped off as per Islamic law.
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Hey i have got some queries on Islam and Hinduism. I have read your majority views and will like to know more. Can you share your email id for the same.
Namaste,
My email is [email protected]. Dhanyavad
Simply brilliant!
“Regarding the question of which prophet of God was sent to India, and can we consider Ram or Krishna to be prophets of God, there is no text in the Qur’an or Sahih Hadith mentioning the name of the prophet that was sent to India. Since the names of Ram and Krishna are nowhere to be found in the Qur’an and Sahih Hadith, one cannot say for sure whether they were prophets of God or not.”
Wonderful. That is because Muhammad never visited India. The only way Allah could know about Ram or Krishna or Vedas was through Muhammad. Since Muhammad never visited India, Alalh was unaware of Ram or Krishna or Vedas or Geeta and never mentioned these in the Quran.
True! A study of Quran reveals that its author(s) were unaware of the philosophies of the East, which was followed by more than 50% of the population of world in those times. They knew only of Judaism and Christianity.
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I have heard from many muslims that mohammad's name is prophecised in the bible as "muhammadim", and muslims claim that this is an obvious prediction of their prophet. Even in jewish scriptures in zakir's talks. I hope this is false, plus I also heard bible and torah were edited and changed so many times. I am assuming muslims did the editing when they ruled italy and spain, to make it look like a prediction so all the jews and christians can embrace islam. I am not sure if this is right sir, can you please tell me if I am right? These arabs (muslims) are very cunning, I am pretty sure? Zakir is so funny that he is even trying to prove mohammad's prophecy in avesta (iranian book) and buddhist scriptures
Hi vik,
You might want to look at this website which give details on what's WRONG with Islam. They had even challenged Zakir to respond.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/
@vik
how are u saying muslims changed it, without proof?
why are you accusing all the muslims as cunning, i hope you are not a site admin but a passerby…
and plz brothers of this site, have a debate with ZAKIR NAIK soon, i want the truth to be exposed by having face to face dialogue, video recorded..
Till date i used to think that no1 from Hindu society can stand against Dr. Naik, but this post makes me believe that if he comes to debate with u, insha-allah he will be slaughtered 🙂 Great post.. and all readers please blog about this, tweet or share it on various readers, so that most of the people who think Dr. Naik speaks truth about his own religion and condemns our religion, will have their eyes opened.
He has been challenged so many times. But he is smart enough to choose the right opponents to showcase his supremacy.
Very true!!
The post is very well put and well constructed. it is totally based on facts, and not on misbeliefs.
Zakir Naik can only debate with uneducated masses.
are u a idol worshipper?
can a arya samaji (follower of vedas) join rss..
RSS is a social organization indulged in nationalist activities. Vedas do motivate us to join nationalist forces for noble cause – be it the military, or charitable organizations, or nationalist organizations. They do not claim that one should love Saudi Arab more than India because religion is more important than nation.
great agniveer sir.. may god bless you.. n keep you well n best as u are..
Are you doing a good job?If yes then maybe not for India but for the enemies of India because they want to destroy India and you want to create hatred between HINDUS AND MUSLIMS. So what is the difference? You cannot convince Hindu brothers so please dont worry about Muslims. Who is a nattionalist and who is anti antional can be well judge by the public. YEH PUBLIC HAI YE SAB JANTI HAI. That is why the so called social worker are not in power and the one who is supposed not to be an Indian is running the country.
agniveer why dont u challenge and ask him in question and answer session of his talks?
are u afraid?
u are really afraid of zakir sahab..
come on yaar…
ok where is your office…??
Question-Answer sessions are for semi-literates. Because answers are given in one-liners and in such events, claps of illiterates decide the winner. That is not the way of truth-seekers. Zakir has been invited for written debate by Ali SIna and an oral debate by Paropkarini Sabha and Arya Samaj several times. We did have debates with his gurus Tariq Murtaza and Abdullah Tariq and they have now vowed never to have public debates. So Zakir is smart to learn from that.
In any case, now the goal is to have his exposes so widely distributed that any sincere person can refute his stupidity then and there. Agniveer site promises to be such informative site that any layman can defend Dharma and be an expert to thwart evil designs of any Osama-lover.
@BDUTT
http://agniveer.com/featured/naik/
http://agniveer.com/featured/naik-hinduism/
http://agniveer.com/featured/naik-faq-hinduism/
@SanghPariwar
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plz retweet nd ask ur followers to retweet it
namaste agnvieerji aapki bahen chodunga veda lagake, madarchod sala islam-watch.org se copy karke logo ko chutiya bana raha hai aur jab hum kuch bolte hai to ”fake translation fake translation, which rishi translated it” bolta hai kutriya saala
Agniveer ji mujhe pata hai aap delhi main rehte hai , shayad aapko pata nahi main aapke ghar ke pass he rehta hu aur mera aapki maa ke saat chakkar bhi chal raha hai 5 saalo se. usi ne mujhe bataya ki agniveer mera beta nahi hai wo to tumhaara hai use bhi maine choda tha vedas lagale
@yeahme : This is the funniest COmment i have ever Read on this website; u are a typical represention of muslim with “Khisyani billi khamba noche” attitude anywyas keep it up..
yeah me ,
kripaya apne Islamic tehzeeb aise hee dikhaate rahen !! Aapke in alfaaz se Agniveer Team ko Islam pe articles likhne ki zaroorat hee nahi padegee !
Par ek baat to hai..quran padhne waale sex ke alaawa kuch soch hee nahi paate hain ! Bhai maan-na padega iss alaah mein kuch to baat hai. Jab usey 53 saal ke Rasool aur uske Daughter-in-law ke beech porn dekhna tha to ayaat bhej dee. Ab lagta hai..ek aur ayaat aane waala hai. jab yeah me/steve sahab ki nazar unki ammi jaan pe padegee..
Lage raho mian ji..Islam zindabad
@yeah me
May peace be upon you!
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yeahme said he lives in india, so you know when someone lives in gutter they become dirty too, and agniveer you and your followers are talking as if you never abused most of your articles are violent and abusive and without any proof.
@great
Oh gr8 ! that means all the copies of quran here in the Indian sub-continent are dirty as they are part of the gutter !
Now this is a million – dollar comment . Hope Indian muslims who read this comment realize what is their status when it comes to this Religion of Deserts !!
As far as abuses are concerned, we only revert back when some islamic zealots start this !
By, the way can you show a single instance where agniveer’s ARTICLE are violent and abusive and without proof?? Kindly give us some proofs for this prepostorous claim of yours
1. We see that even this comment is coming from India whom you call ‘gutter’. Shame on you for your anti-India sentiments. We have received several similar comments in last few days. We can sense the trend – to divide Indians and create an anti-India feeling among Indian Muslims in name of defending Islam! But on this issue, both Indian Muslims and Indian non-Muslims would work together to thwart such evil forces who abuse our motherland.
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”agniveer intensedebate.com says:
March 1, 2010 at 4:54 AM
RSS is a social organization indulged in nationalist activities. Vedas do motivate us to join nationalist forces for noble cause – be it the military, or charitable organizations, or nationalist organizations. They do not claim that one should love Saudi Arab more than India because religion is more important than nation.”
everyone knows how peaceful is RSS and you call RSS peaceful and then criticizing ”yeahme”, im amazed how you can do such thing.
@ great
So, you have objection with RSS coz’ it urges Indian Muslims to be more faithful to India than Saudi Arabia ! You are really Great !
BTW, whats wrong if RSS calls a spade a spade instead of indulging in Pseudo-Secularism
brother where is your morality when hindu users uses words like piss be upon him etc etc and also these kind of things http://agniveer.com/2078/muhammad-as-per-islamic-texts/?cid=6149
and you call every muslim a terrorist, you yourself support terrorist organisations like RSS, VHP etc etc so by those kinds of words any sane person can know who is supporting what
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@Agniveer and all ,
Please , you all dont assume that “Yeah ME” is linked with truthofhinduism.com .
We dont know him and his identity , and we are not same like you think & comment like this STEVE/ROCKY/YEah me. You can check the ip addresses of the commentators to confirm it.
We are here for healthy discussions and posting our views , we dont promote abuses to anyone . So please dont think this comment was by any of our member.
Oh Ho Mr. Steve,
Look at the way how swift your response was !
Try these Taqiyas with madarsaa students. You chose the wrong forum dear !
Namaste Steve,
For last several months, Yeah Me has been representing TOH on this site. Thus it comes to us as a surprise that he has nothing to do with TOH. We are indeed hurt by his recent comment because that portrays a typical Muslim in very bad light. In fact there has been a barrage of abusive comments over last few days (and many put TOH as their site) and we are having challenges moderating them. Since comments come from dynamic IPs, it is impossible to create rules to control them.
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Asalamualaikum Agniveer,
I dont know who is this Yeah ME , he sometimes comments in our website also.
We are strictly against any abuses and are in a favor of healthy discussions and debates.
I dont comment here often except when a new rebuttal is published for you and really dont want any discussions here. So dont take anyone as a part of truthofhinduism.com if he says so & most importantly the one who abuses. We too have received many abusive comments which we have trashed right away and not even worthy to tell. Please remove the TOH website name with that abusive filthy comment.
Namaste Steve
Thanks for the clarification. We encourage healthy discussions. However since we have received some more abusive comments on behalf of TOH, we shall have manual moderation of comments claiming to represent TOH to dispel any confusions. Hopefully the abusive forces would silence in a few days and then we can restore normal management of comments.
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WEBSITES LIKE STEVE’S TOH AND OTHER PAKISTANI SITES WHICH PROMOTE LIES AGAINST HINDUISM USES THE ARTICLES OF ABUL KASEM WITHOUT KNOWING THAT HE WAS BRUTALLY CRUSHED BY RAJU MALIGER SEE THIS REBUTTAL OF RAJU MALIGER
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:nn_ztILFxEYJ:www.lulu.com/content/content_download_redirect.php%3FmetaId%3D2732056+Atharva+Veda+20/96/15&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=in
@Kafir786
thanks for sharing brilliant link ..what a scholarly rebuttal !
brother kafir786, mr. raju malanger used just basic understandings he didn’t refuted every claim, just the 2 or 3 verses which were mistranslated by abul kasem
and brother kafir786 you can see mr. agniveer has used islam-watch.org articles and also posted a complete book of abul kasem, so you should except whatever abul kasem has written about hinduism or else admit that whatever he wrote about islam and hinduism is false
@great
not so great argument bro!
1) Ever read the disclaimer that goes with that shared article? ..i guess you missed that out
2) abul kasem is not god ..actually nobody is ..and hence blindly following a person is identified as a logical fallacy ..a rational person will focus on the argument and not the person …In abul kasems article on vedas..he was found to be factually incorrect by raju maliger and abul kasem regained his faculties of reason and admitted that he had little idea of vedas.
u said ”he was found to be factually incorrect by raju maliger” brother muslims have refuted abul kasem, and u also said a rational person would focus on the argument and not to the person, when any muslims shows some vedic verses all you people says is we don’t believe in western translations, no matter who translated it and kafir786 was saying about muslims using abul kasem’s article in hinduism, so i was replying him
@kafir786
l0lz…. nothing is taken from abul kasem! can you produce the proof of that statement? why dont you dare to refute our articles…..?
post here the links of all articles of abul kasem which is copied! if you cant, you are lair.. infact abul kasem writes articles against islam chek out- http://www.mukto-mona.com/Articles/kasem/index.htm
and even you guys are copying articles from FF, JW etc etc WITHOUT KNOWING THAT THEY WERE BRUTALLY CRUSHED BY 1> http://www.examinethetruth.com
2> http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac.htm
can you refute this?-
http://truthofhinduism.com/rebuttals/rebuttal-to-if-you-kill-innocent-you-kill-entire-humanity/
http://truthofhinduism.com/general/vedas-are-not-eternal-a-detailed-analysis/comment-page-3/#comment-1597
http://truthofhinduism.com/rebuttals/rebuttal-to-agniveer-kaaba-idol-worship/
look how your agniveer is exposed!! you do not have guts to reply!!!!!
agniveer is here just to make money… l0lzzzz…..
Nice Joke Toxic I think you have not read TOH articles or our articles carefully even author of the site Steve did not say he has not copied from Abul Kasem you want proof then I have some of the verses which TOH has copy pasted in his site Atharva Veda (20/96/15), Yajur Veda (23/19), Yajur Veda (23/20) and many others which has already been rebutted.
CHRISTIANITY WILL NEVER EXPOSE ISLAM COMPLETELY because in doing so they have to exposes themselves also like Jesus Christ is fictitious character they will never accept this fact and many other christian lies that they are sharing with muslims.
For your first link the whole world knows how peaceful religion is Islam.
For your second link if you have studied comparative religion you will easily know that Monotheism has come from Vedas, which Jews, Christians and Muslims have copy pasted in their religion, and many greatest of the great scientist like Einstein, Robert Openheimer, Neil Bohr, Carl Sagan APJ Kalam and many other have already accepted the Vedas as ultimate or eternal source. For your kind information the great Philosophers and Historians like Aristotle, Megasthenes, Volitaire have themselves said that Jews are the descendants of Indian Philosophers JEWS ARE REALLY INDIAN CALANI TRIBE even BIBLE prove this the KING XERXES whose Land extended till INDIA had Jewish inhabitants. A-BRAHAM and SARAI-SWATI are none other than BRAHMA AND SARASWATI their stories are also very similar if you see early JEWISH ALPHABETS and HARAPPAN ALPHABETS are similar. HINDU AND JEWISH MARRIAGES ARE VERY MUCH SIMILAR the 7 rounds around their bride or bridegroom breaking coconut or bottle. In comparative religions INDRA is non other than JEHOVAH/YAHWEH/ZEUS/JOVE/JUPITER who gave their presence with thunder and lightening in MOUNT SINAI OR GOVARDHAN MOUNTAIN and Mohammad said that his god is same as Jehovah/Yahweh. See the below links for reference
http://seatofgod.com/jupiterbiblicalastrologicalaspects/id21.html
http://jesus-messiah.com/html/jove.html
TOXIC BROTHER by now you must have got the point that VEDAS IS ETERNAL MONOTHEISM HAVE COME FROM VEDAS AND EVERY RELIGION DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY IS INFLUENCED BY VEDAS
EVEN JEWS ARE TRACING THEIR ANCESTRY IN INDIA SEE THIS JEWISH WEBSITE
http://aumshalom.com/index.html
KAABA IS IDOL WORSHIP BECAUSE PROPHET MOHAMMAD HIMSELF SAY SO
The Noble Prophet Muhammad (blessings of Allah be upon him and his family) has said, “Perform the Tawaf of the House (Kaaba) and rub your hand over the Corner which has Hajr Aswad – the Black Stone, because this is the right hand of Allah on His Earth which He shakes with His creations.”
“who ever negotiates this stone as if he is negotiating the Merciful hand.” Narrated by the Dailami from Abu Huraira
so brother now should not have doubt that Kaaba is idol worship because Prophet Mohammad himself is telling that .
Hats off Agniveer Sir for taking the mask-off the demon!
Thats Great Agniveer …Marked as bookmark this site.
ASSALAM ALIAKUM
Mr agniveer u r doing a reat job by misguiding people and trying to prove our beloved Prophet Mohammad (SAW) and Dr zakir wrong in which you will never be successful and thats my challenge to u..
If you want to talk talk With Dr Zakir face to face….. You r giving the excuse that he never comes but he gives so many lecture in public and you can go to any lecture and ask him the questions u r accusing him of if you are a true hindu and not afraid of…
Mr Agniveer …….What happened why you not replying you don;t have answer now???