हिंदू धर्म में अश्लीलता?

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भारतवर्ष आज धर्मांतरण के रोग की प्रमुख आश्रय स्थली बन चुका है | चीन और उसके पार वाले देश इस विषाणु के लिए अप्रवेश्य हैं | और बाकी दुनिया में, भारतवर्ष के पश्चिम में जितना धर्मांतरण हो सकता था – हो चुका है – अब तो बस वहां एक शाखा ( ईसाईयत) से दूसरी शाखा ( इस्लाम) को लपकना और उनकी छोटी-छोटी उपशाखाओं को पकड़ कर झूलने का ही खेल बचा है |

परंतु भारत में हिन्दू और गैर हिन्दू जनसंख्या का अच्छा खासा मिश्रण मौजूद है जो अल्लाह या यीशु के मिशन को आगे ले जाने के लिये बड़ी संख्या में संभावित अनुयायी, बड़ी संख्या में दलाल और समर्थक आधार को पेश करता है | जैसे भारतवर्ष इतिहास के महापुरुषों को जन्म देने के लिए प्रसिद्ध है वैसे यहां की भूमि दगाबाजों को पैदा करने और पालने में भी उतनी ही उर्वरक है – जो आत्मघात में ही गौरव समझते हैं |  इस बात का इससे बड़ा प्रमाण क्या हो सकता है कि एक राष्ट्रीय शर्म के प्रतीक (बाबरी मस्जिद) – जिसे एक समलैंगिक, बच्चों के यौन शोषण की विकृति से ग्रस्त, कत्ले आम में माहिर और नशे की लत के आदी बाबर ने खड़ा किया था – के विध्वंस की घटना को देश में गौरव का प्रसंग मानने की बजाए उसे एक बड़ी समस्या बना दिया गया है ! देखें – Babri Masjid demolition . जिसके पास किसी प्रकार का नियंत्रण ही नहीं ऐसे अत्यंत निर्बल नेतृत्व ने यह बिलकुल सरल कर दिया है कि अन्य कोई अज़मल कसाब या अफ़ज़ल आराम से अपनी इच्छा और ज़रुरत अनुसार अपने लोग, पैसे, आर डी एक्स ला कर हिन्दुओं की संख्या को आसानी से कम कर सकें|

अनेक कारण दिए जा सकते हैं लेकिन यह इस लेख का प्रयोजन नहीं है| संक्षेप में, भारतवर्ष किसी भी विदेशी मत के फ़लने-फूलने के लिए पोषक वातावरण मुहैया कराता है| धर्मांतरण ने अब एक चतुर खेल की शक्ल अख्तियार कर ली है | एक ही मतप्रसार के लिए अनेक प्रकार के उपायों का प्रचुर दाव – पेचों के साथ उपयोग किया जा रहा है | व्यापक स्तर पर धर्मांतरण करने के लिए जो हिन्दुओं को सिर्फ इस्लाम में शामिल करना चाहते हैं या जो चाहते हैं कि हिन्दू बाइबल को ही गले लगायें, उनकी प्रमुख कूट चाल है – हिन्दुत्व को दुनिया के समक्ष सर्वाधिक अश्लील धर्म के रूप में प्रस्तुत करना | वैसे यह इनके मत प्रसार का कोई नवीनतम उपाय भी नहीं है परंतु आज के संदर्भ में यह हथकंडा कई कारणों से महत्वपूर्ण हो जाता है जिसकी चर्चा यहां स्थानाभाव की वजह से करना प्रासंगिक नहीं होगा |

यह बहुत ही हास्यास्पद है कि बाइबल या कुरान और हदीसों के आशिक, हिंदुत्व पर अश्लीलता से भरे होने का आरोप लगाते हैं | क्योंकि अंतिम अक्षर तक सर्वाधिक अश्लील किताबों की फ़हरिस्त में इन किताबों ( बाइबल, कुरान+ हदीस) ने चरम स्थान हासिल कर रखा है| jesusallah.wordpress.com और बहुत सी अन्य साइट्स पर आप इससे संबंधित अनगिनत लेख पाएंगे| किन्तु ये धर्मांतरण के विषाणु इतने बेशर्म हैं कि आम जनता का छलावा करके पतित करने की प्रवृत्ति से उनकी आंखें तनिक भी झपकती नहीं हैं – तभी तो वे लोग अधिक से अधिक जनता को किसी भी तरीके से खींचते हैं ताकि उनको जन्नत में ज्यादा से ज्यादा ऐशो- आराम और हूरें मिलें|

पर आज यह बेहद गंभीर मसला बन चुका है| भारी संख्या में अपने सत्य धर्म से अनजान हिन्दू, आतंरिक और बाहरी चालबाजियों का शिकार बन रहें हैं और अंततः इस अपप्रचार में फंस कर भ्रान्तिवश अपने धर्म से नफ़रत करना शुरू कर देते हैं | उनके लिए हिंदुत्व का मतलब – राधा-कृष्ण के अश्लील प्रणय दृश्य, शिवलिंग के रूप में पुरुष जननेंद्रिय की पूजा, शिव का मोहिनी पर रीझना, विष्णु और शिव द्वारा स्त्रियों का सतीत्व नष्ट करना, ब्रह्मा का अपनी पुत्री सरस्वती पर आसक्त होना इत्यादि, इत्यादि से ज्यादा और कुछ नहीं रह जाता | हमारी जानकारी में ऐसे कई पत्रक (pamphlets) भारतभर में वितरित किए जा रहे हैं और उन में हिन्दुओं से अपील की जा रही है कि वे सच्चे ईश्वर और सच्ची मुक्ति को पाने के लिए विदेशी मज़हबों को अपनाएं | बहुत से हिन्दू अपनी बुनियाद से घृणा भी करने लगे हैं और जो हिंदुत्व के चाहनेवाले हैं, वे निश्चित नहीं कर पाते हैं कि कैसे इन कहानियों का स्पष्टीकरण दिया जाए और अपने धर्म को बचाया जाए| छद्म धर्मनिरपेक्षतावादी कम्युनिस्ट इस को हवा देने में लगे हुए हैं|

इस लेख का प्रयोजन इन सभी आरोपों को सही परिपेक्ष्य में रखना और सभी धर्मप्रेमियों के हाथ में ऐसी कसौटी प्रदान करना है, जिससे वे न केवल सत्य का रक्षण ही कर सकें बल्कि इस मिथ्या प्रचार पर तमाचा भी जड़ सकें |

१. अश्लीलता के प्रत्येक आरोप पर विचार करने से पहले यह तय किया जाना जरूरी है कि क्या ये धर्म की परिधि में आता भी है ? हिंदुत्व में धर्म की अवधारणा, कुरान और बाइबल की अंध विश्वासों की व्यवस्था से पूर्णतः भिन्न है | हिंदुत्व के सभी वर्गों में स्वीकृत की गई, धर्म की सार्वभौमिक व्याख्या, मनुस्मृति (६। ९२) में प्रतिपादित धर्म के ११ लक्षण हैं – अहिंसा, धृति (धैर्य), क्षमा, इन्द्रिय-निग्रह, अस्तेय (चोरी न करना), शौच (शुद्धि), आत्म- संयम, धी: (बुद्धि), अक्रोध, सत्य, और विद्या प्राप्ति | Vedic Religion in Brief में इन्हें विस्तार से समझाया गया है |

कुछ भी और सबकुछ जो इन ११ लक्षणों का उल्लंघन करे या इनको दूषित करे वह हिंदुत्व या हिन्दू धर्म नहीं है |

२. धर्म की दूसरी कसौटी हैं वेद| सभी हिन्दू ग्रंथ सुस्पष्ट और असंदिग्धता से वेदों को अंतिम प्रमाण मानते हैं |

अतः कुछ भी और सबकुछ जो वेदों के विपरीत है, धर्म नहीं है |

मूलतः ऊपर बताई गई दोनों कसौटियां, अपने आप में एक ही हैं किन्तु थोड़े से अलग अभिगम से |

३.योगदर्शन में यही कसौटी थोड़ी सी भिन्नता से यम और नियमों के रूप में प्रस्तुत की गई है –

यम – अहिंसा, सत्य, अस्तेय, ब्रह्मचर्य (आत्म-संयम और शालीनता), अपरिग्रह (अनावश्यक संग्रह न करना)|

नियम – शौच (शुद्धि), संतोष, तप (उत्तम कर्तव्य के लिए तीव्र और कठोर प्रयत्न), स्वाध्याय या आत्म- निरिक्षण,ईश्वर प्रणिधान (ईश्वर के प्रति समर्पण)|

४. हिंदुत्व के प्रत्येक वर्ग द्वारा अपनाई गई, इन आधारभूत कसौटियों को स्पष्ट करने के बाद, हम इन आक्षेपों का जवाब बड़ी ही आसानी से दे सकते हैं क्योंकि अब हमारा दृष्टिकोण बिलकुल साफ़ है – हम उनका प्रतिवाद नहीं करते बल्कि उन्हें सिरे से नकारते हैं|


उ.
१. हिन्दू धर्म के मूलाधार वेदों में – इन में से एक भी कथा नहीं दिखायी देती |
प्र. सिक्युलर (sickular) या धर्मांतरण के लिए सक्रिय लोगों द्वारा हमारे ग्रंथों में असभ्य कथाओं का जो आरोप लगाया जाता है – इस पर आप क्या कहेंगे ?

२. अधिकांश कथाएं पुराणों, रामायण या महाभारत में पाई जाती हैं और वेदों के अलावा हिन्दू धर्म में दूसरा कोई भी ग्रंथ ईश्वर कृत नहीं माना जाता है| इसके अतिरिक्त, यह सभी ग्रंथ (पुराण,रामायण और महाभारत) प्रक्षेपण से अछूते भी नहीं रहे| पिछले हज़ार वर्षों की विदेशी दासता में भ्रष्ट मर्गियों द्वारा, जिनका एक मात्र उद्देश्य इस देश की सांस्कृतिक बुनियाद को ध्वस्त करना ही था – इन ग्रंथों में मिलावट की गई है | अतः इन ग्रंथों के वेदानुकूल अंश को ही प्रमाणित माना जा सकता है |शेष भाग प्रक्षेपण मात्र है, जो अस्वीकार किया जाना चाहिए और जो यथार्थ में हिन्दुओं के आचरण में नकारा जा चुका है |

प्र. क्या आप स्पष्ट करेंगे कि आप कैसे इन ग्रंथों को प्रक्षिप्त मानते हैं ?

उ. इसके बहुत से प्रमाण हैं |

१.भविष्य पुराण में अकबर,विक्टोरिया, मुहम्मद, ईसा आदि की कहानियां पाई जाती हैं | इसके श्लोकों में सन्डे, मंडे आदि का प्रयोग भी किया गया है | हालाँकि, मुद्रण कला (छपाई) के  प्रचलित होने पर १९ वें सदी के आखिर में यह कहानियां लिखी जानी थम सकी | इस से साफ़ ज़ाहिर है कि १९ वें सदी के अंत तक इस में श्लोक जोड़े जाते रहे |

२.गीताप्रेस गोरखपुर द्वारा प्रकाशित रामायण और महाभारत में जो श्लोक स्पष्टत: प्रकरण से बाहर (संदर्भहीन) हैं, उन्हें प्रक्षिप्त के तौर पर चिन्हित किया गया है |

३.आश्चर्यजनक रूप से महाभारत  २६५। ९४ के शांतिपर्व में भी यह दावा आता है कि कपटी लोगों द्वारा वैदिक धर्म को कलंकित करने के लिए मदिरा, मांस- भक्षण,अश्लीलता इत्यादि के श्लोक मिलाये गये हैं |

४. गरुड़ पुराण ब्रह्म कांड  १। ५९ कहता है कि वैदिक धर्म को असभ्य दिखाने के लिए महाभारत दूषित किया गया है | इत्यादि ऐसे अनेक उदाहरण दिए जा सकते हैं |

५. इन ग्रंथों के सतही अवलोकन से भी यह पता लग जाता है कि किस भारी मात्रा में मिलावट की गई है और इन कहानियों का मतलब गलत अनुवादों से बदल दिया गया है ताकि यह छलावे से धर्मांतरण के विषाणुओं और उनके वाहकों के अनुकूल हो सके |

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प्र. आप यह दावा कैसे करते हैं कि ये पुस्तकें हमारे धर्म का अंग नहीं हैं ?

उ.मैंने ऐसा नहीं कहा कि यह पुस्तकें हमारे धर्म का हिस्सा नहीं हैं, मेरा कहना है कि वे हमारे धर्म का भाग वहीं तक हैं जहां तक वे वेदों से एकमत हैं |

इसका प्रमाण समाज में देखा जा सकता है-

१.कोई भी नए असंपादित पुराणों को महत्त्व नहीं देता (सिवाय कुछ लोगों के जिन्हें हिन्दू धर्म से कोई सरोकार नहीं है वरन् वे सिर्फ अपना अधिपत्य जमाना चाहते हैं – झूठी जन्मगत जाति व्यवस्था के बल पर. वास्तव में यह लोग धर्मांतरण के वायरस के सबसे बड़े  मिले हुए साझीदार हैं – जो धर्म को अन्दर से ख़त्म करते हैं | ) हिन्दू जनसाधारण या उनके नेता भी सारे पुराणों का तो नाम तक नहीं जानते | पुराण आदि के सम्पूर्ण संस्करण भी आसानी से प्राप्य नहीं हैं |

२. इन पुस्तकों के संक्षिप्त या कुछ चुने हुए अंश ही जनसाधारण में उपलब्ध हैं | इसलिए बहुत से हिन्दू रामायण मांगने पर रामचरितमानस ला कर देंगे,  महाभारत के लिए पूछने पर गीता मिलेगी और पुराणों की बजाए इन की नैतिक कथाओं का संकलन मिल सकता है | यह दर्शाता है कि हिन्दू इन पुस्तकों को वहीं तक ही स्वीकार करते हैं जहां तक वे उन्हें वेदानुकूल पाते हैं |

वे लोग अज्ञानता में गलतियाँ कर सकते हैं लेकिन लक्ष्य हमेशा वैदिक धर्म के दायरे में रहकर उपदेश देना और अनुसरण करना ही है |

प्र. अगर हिन्दू  इन असभ्य कथाओं को अस्वीकार करते हैं, तो फ़िर राधा – कृष्ण और शिव लिंग को पूजते क्यों हैं ?

उ. नहीं, हिन्दू इन प्रतीकों को उस रूप में नहीं पूजते जैसे अर्थ यह धर्मांतरण के वायरस फ़ैला रहे हैं|

१. हिन्दू मूलतः ही इतने सीधे हैं कि वे आसानी से अन्यों पर भरोसा कर लेते हैं और इसीलिए विदेशी आक्रान्ताओं द्वारा सदियों तक छले जाते रहे |  उनकी सहज वृत्ति ही किसी पर भी विश्वास करने की है |  ठेठ जाकिर की किस्म के मुस्लिमों के विपरीत जो कुरान और रसूल और अरब की आदिम परम्पराओं का पालन कोई जब तक न करे, उस पर अविश्वास ही करने के लिए प्रशिक्षित हैं, एक भोला हिन्दू अन्य व्यक्ति पर महज़ इसलिए विश्वास रखता है क्योंकि वह मनुष्य है| यह विश्वसनीयता का भाव होना एक महान सामर्थ्य तो है पर साथ ही में यह एक बहुत बड़ी कमजोरी भी है खासकर, जब आप ऐसे इलाकों में रहते हों जहां डेंगू और मलेरिया फैलानेवाले बहुत अधिक मच्छर मंडरा रहें हों|

तो जैसे अग्निवीर की साईट को हैकिंग और वायरस के हमले झेलने पड़ रहें हैं – हिन्दुत्व भी ऐसा ही हो गया है |  अब ऐसा समय आ गया है की इसी साईट को बनाए रखने की बजाए मौजूदा वायरस को मिटाकर, उसी विषय वस्तु को रखते हुए भविष्य में वायरस के हमलों से बचाव के लिए हम अपने सुरक्षा प्रबंध को अधिक कड़ा और मजबूत करके साईट को फ़िर से बनाकर शुरू करें|

२.हिन्दुत्व की सीधी प्रकृति के कारण हिन्दू परंपरागत रूप से कोई बहुत समालोचक नहीं हैं | एक अवधि के दौरान हर कहीं से अच्छाई की तलाश में वे विभिन्न पूजा पद्धतियों को अपनाते गये और उन्हें अपने अनुसार  ढ़ालते गये| लेकिन इस प्रक्रिया में उन्हें इस बात का आभास भी नहीं हुआ कि वे अपने मूल स्रोत से विमुख होकर बहुत दूर भटक गये हैं जहां धर्मांतरण का वायरस उनको निगलने के लिए तत्पर है|

३. राधा का अर्थ है सफ़लता | यजुर्वेद के प्रथम अध्याय का पांचवा मंत्र, ईश्वर से सत्य को स्वीकारने तथा असत्य को त्यागने के लिए दृढ़प्रतिज्ञ रहने में सफ़लता की कामना करता है | कृष्ण अपनी जिंदगी में इन दृढ़ संकल्पों और संयम का मूर्तिमान आदर्श थे | पश्चात किसी ने किसी समय में इस राधा (सफ़लता) को मूर्ति में ढाल लिया | उसका आशय ठीक होगा परंतु उसी प्रक्रिया में ईश्वर पूजा के मूलभूत आधार से हम भटक गये, तुरंत बाद में अतिरंजित कल्पनाओं को छूट दे गई और राधा को स्त्री के रूप में गढ़ लिया, यह प्रवृत्ति निरंतर जारी रही तो कृष्ण के बारे में अपनी पत्नी के अलावा अन्य स्त्री के साथ व्यभिचार चित्रित करनेवाली कहानियां गढ़ ली गयीं और यह खेल चालू रहा|  इस कालक्रम में आई विकृति से पूर्णत गाफ़िल सरल हिन्दू  राधा-कृष्ण की पूजा आज भी उसी पवित्र भावना से ज़ारी रखे हुए हैं | यदि, आप किसी हिन्दू से राधा के उल्लेखवाला धर्म ग्रंथ पूछेंगे तो उसके पास कोई जवाब नहीं होगा, शायद ही कोई हिन्दू जानता भी हो| महाभारत या हरिवंश या भागवत या किसी भी अन्य प्रमाणिक ग्रंथ में राधा की कोई चर्चा नहीं है| अतः सभी व्यवहारिक मामलों में हिन्दुओं द्वारा राधा पर झूठी कहानियों और झूठी पुस्तकों को मान्यता नहीं दी गई है|

एक हिन्दू के लिए राधा पवित्रता का प्रतिक है, भले ही वह नहीं जानता क्यों और कैसे ? यदि हिन्दुओं के मन में राधा  – कृष्ण के संबंधों के प्रति कोई अशालीन भाव होता वह राधा के भक्तों के जीवन में झलकना चाहिए था परंतु कृष्ण के उपासक तो एक पत्नीव्रती, बहुधा ब्रह्मचारी रहनेवाले होते हैं जो सहसा अपने से विपरीत लिंग के लोगों में घुलते-मिलते भी नहीं हैं|

अतः सभी व्यावहारिक मामलों में हिन्दू राधा – कृष्ण पर सभी झूठी कथाओं और झूठी पुस्तकों को नामंजूर करते हैं|

४.शिवलिंग का मतलब है पवित्रता का प्रतीक | दीपक की प्रतिमा बनाये जाने से इस की शुरुआत हुई, बहुत से हठ योगी दीपशिखा पर ध्यान लगाते हैं | हवा में दीपक की ज्योति टिमटिमा जाती है और स्थिर ध्यान लगाने की प्रक्रिया में अवरोध उत्पन्न करती है इसलिए दीपक की प्रतिमा का निर्माण किया गया ताकि एकाग्र ध्यान लग सके | लेकिन कुछ विकृत दिमागों ने इस में जननागों की कल्पना कर ली और झूठी कुत्सित कहानियां बना ली और इस पीछे के रहस्य से अनभिज्ञ भोले हिन्दुओं द्वारा इस प्रतिमा का पूजन पवित्रता के प्रतिक के रूप में करना शुरू कर दिया गया|

एक हिन्दू को क्यों और कैसे यह जानने में कोई रूचि नहीं है | वह सिर्फ चीज़ों को ऊपर से देख कर स्वीकारता है और हर कहीं से अच्छाई  को पाने का प्रयास करता रहता है| किसी हिन्दू  ने शिव पुराण या शिव लिंग से संबंधित अन्य पुस्तकें पढ़ी भी नहीं हैं| वे शिवालय में सिर्फ अपनी पवित्र भावनाएं  ईश चरणों  में अर्पित करने जाते हैं| अतः सभी व्यावहारिक मामलों में हिन्दुओं द्वारा शिव लिंग के बारे में सभी झूठी  कथाओं और झूठी पुस्तकों को अस्वीकार किया गया है|

५.हिन्दू लोग अपने धर्म का मर्म यही मानते हैं कि एक ही सत्य का साक्षात्कार अलग-अलग तरीकों से किया जा सकता है | अतः वे हर किसी को विद्वान समझ बैठते हैं, उसके पीछे चलने लगते हैं और भ्रम में रहते हैं  कि वे भलाई के मार्ग पर हैं | लिहाज़ा कुछ हिन्दू  अजमेर शरीफ़ की दरगाह पर चादर चढ़ाने के लिए दौड़े जाते हैं – जो पृथ्वीराज चौहान के खिलाफ़ -मुहम्मद गौरी का साथ देनेवाले गद्दार की मज़ार है | शिवाजी के हाथों मारे गये -कुख्यात लुटेरे और बलात्कारी अफ़ज़ल खान की कब्र पर भी हिन्दू माथा टेकते नज़र आएंगे | हिन्दुओं की हर किसी में अच्छाई ही देखने की मूलभूत प्रवृति जो उनको उपासना की हर एक पद्धति को अपनाने के लिए प्रेरित करती है – आज उसके विनाश का कारण बन गयी है|

जिस तरह आप यदि  स्वास्थ के नियमों का पालन, पथ्यापथ्य, औषध इत्यादि का ध्यान नहीं रखेंगे तो आप नयी दिल्ली जैसी जगह पर डेंगू से नही बच सकते | उसी तरह, हमारे वेदों के मूलभूत विचारों को अगर हम ने पकड़ कर नहीं रखा, कोई सशक्त उपाय नहीं किया एवं चौकन्ने नहीं हुए तो बहुत आसानी से हिन्दू समाज भी संक्रमित हो जाएगा|

संक्षेप में,  हिन्दू सिर्फ अच्छाई को ही पूजते हैं | वे इस अच्छाई को पूजा के हर स्वरुप में तलाशते हैं | वे इसके पीछे की कहानियों की परवाह नहीं करते इस प्रकार की पूजाओं की उत्पत्ति कैसे हुई और उनके पीछे क्या षड्यंत्र है , इस बारे में भी नहीं विचारते और अच्छाई ढूंढते रहते हैं|

इसलिए यद्यपि हिन्दुओं को बहुत सावधानी बरतनी चाहिए किन्तु यह भी सच्ची बात है कि हिन्दू धर्म के सिद्धांतों या व्यवहारों में ऐसी कथाएं और पुस्तकें समाहित नहीं हैं|


उ.
इसका उत्तर भी वही है जो पहले था कि ये कथाएं हिन्दुत्व का हिस्सा नहीं हैं | ये वेदों में कहीं दृष्टिगोचर नहीं होती और वस्तुतः वेदों में इस स्वरुप की कोई भी कथा नहीं है | इस्लाम और ईसाईयत के विपरीत हिन्दू धर्म में इन कथाओं के लिए कोई स्थान है ही  नहीं | हिन्दू धर्म पूर्णतः सिद्धांतों और आदर्श संकल्पनाओं पर आधारित है | कथाएँ समय -समय बदलती रहती हैं, वो परिवर्तित की जा सकती हैं, उन में जोड़-तोड़ की जा सकती है, उन्हें दूषित किया जा सकता है, वे विस्मृत हो सकती हैं या उनमें कुछ भी किया जा सकता है | परंतु धर्म सनातन है अर्थात् शाश्वत है -जो पहले भी एक ही था और आगे भी वही होगा|
प्र. ब्रह्मा का अपनी कन्या पर आसक्त होना और शिव का मोहिनी के पीछे भागना इत्यादि कथाओं के बारे में आप क्या कहेंगे ?

प्र. तो क्या आप का मतलब है कि राम, कृष्ण, विष्णु इत्यादि से हिन्दू धर्म नहीं बनता ?

उ. राम, कृष्ण विष्णु, शंकर, ब्रह्मा इत्यादि हिन्दू धर्म नहीं हैं बल्कि वे तो वैदिक धर्म के अनुयायी थे | वे हमारे आदर्श और अनुकरणीय हैं | हम उन्हें चाहते हैं क्योंकि उन्होंने महान उदाहरण प्रस्तुत किए जिनका अनुशीलन किया जाना चाहिए | उन्होंने वेदों को अपने आचरण में उतारा था और जनसमुदाय को प्रेरित करने के लिए और सही दिशा में चलाने के लिए ऐसे महा पुरुषों की आवश्यकता रहती है | परंतु, जैसा ऊपर बताया जा चुका है कि धर्म शाश्वत है – अब से अरबों वर्ष बाद हो सकता है कि किन्ही  दूसरे आदर्शों का अनुसरण किया जा रहा होगा | राम या कृष्ण के जन्म से पूर्व के आदर्श कोई और होंगे और राम या कृष्ण को कोई जानता भी न होगा, पर धर्म तब भी था | यह शाश्वत वैदिक धर्म ही हिंदुत्व है और क्योंकि राम, कृष्ण और विष्णु ने इसका पालन पूर्णता से किया – वे हमारी संस्कृति, प्रेरणा, विचारों और संकल्पों का अनिवार्य अंग हैं |

प्र. आप चतुर हैं, मैं समझ रहा था कि आप अश्लील कथाओं का विश्लेषण करेंगे और उनके अश्लील नहीं होने की सफाई पेश करेंगे | लेकिन आप तो इसे हिंदुत्व का हिस्सा मानने से ही इंकार कर रहें हैं |

उ. मैं  केवल सत्यनिष्ठ हूं | और हिंदुत्व इस्लाम की तरह नहीं है कि जहां कुरान में मुहम्मद के जीवन की व्यक्तिगत घटनाओं का वर्णन किया गया है और उसे न्यायसंगत भी ठहराया गया है | कुरान और हदीसों में इन पर कहानियां भरी हुई हैं कि आयशा जब बच्ची थी तभी मुहम्मद ने उससे शादी क्यों की, क्यों उस ने अपनी पुत्र-वधू से शादी की इच्छा ज़ाहिर की और वास्तव में बिना शादी किए ही सम्बन्ध रखे (दावा किया कि शादी आसमान में हो गई है !) क्यों पैगम्बरों के लिए सामान्य मुस्लिमों से ज्यादा शादियां कर सकने का ख़ास प्रावधान है, वगैरा, वगैरा —|

यह कहानियां संसार के अंत तक यह बताने के लिए प्रस्तुत नहीं रहेंगी कि किसने अल्लाह की आखिरी किताब उतारी और न ही वे कोई बहुत उम्दा उदाहरण ही पेश करती हैं लेकिन (किन्तु) इन आयतों को मुहम्मद का चरित्र बचाने के वास्ते गलत करार देकर नकारने के बजाए धर्मांध मुसलमानों ने इन भद्दी आयतों को मुहम्मद के चरित्र को बेहतर और उम्दा बनाने की प्रक्रिया का भाग बताकर सही दिखाने की कोशिश की है |

इसी प्रकार ईसाई हैं, जो ये मानने के बजाए कि बाइबल में मनघडंत कहानियां भरी हुई हैं – ईसा मसीह को संसार का एकमात्र तारणहार बताते हैं |

हिंदुत्व की आधारशिला बहुत दृढ़ है और ऐसी क्षुद्र कहानियों से वह लडखडाई नहीं जा सकती |  जिन बनावटी कथाओं को हम पहले ही नकार चुके हैं, उन्हें प्रस्तुत करना आपके कपट को प्रकट कर रहा है | दिखाएँ कि, Vedic Religion in brief और What is Vedic Religion में क्या गलती है ?

आप कुछ भी गलत नहीं दिखा सकते और इसीलिए हमारा दावा है कि वैदिक धर्म या हिंदुत्व ही एकमात्र स्वीकार किए जाने योग्य धर्म है |

इस सब के बावजूद, झूठी कुरान और छद्म बाइबल के असभ्य पाठों के प्रत्येक अक्षर का समर्थन करनेवालों द्वारा शाश्वत सनातन वैदिक हिन्दू धर्म पर उंगली उठाने की धृष्टता किए जाना घोर खेद का विषय है |

प्र. वेदों में अभद्र वर्णन होने के बारे में आप क्या कहेंगे ?

उ.एक भी वेद मंत्र ऐसा दिखाएँ जिसमें भद्दापन हो या चारों वेदों में से एक भी अश्लील प्रसंग निकल कर दिखा दें | ग्रिफिथ या मैक्स मूलर के अनुवादों पर मत जाइए – वे मूलतः धर्मांतरण के विषाणु ही थे | शब्दों के अर्थ सहित किसी भी वेद मंत्र को अशिष्ट क्यों माना जाए ? – इसका कारण बताएं | अब तक एक भी ऐसा मंत्र कोई नहीं दिखा सका | ज्यादा से ज्यादा, लोग सिर्फ़ कुछ नष्ट बुद्धियों के उलजुलूल अनुवादों की नक़ल उतार कर रख देते हैं, यह जाने बिना ही कि वे इस तरह के बेतुके अर्थों पर पहुंचे कैसे ?

सभी की स्पष्टता के लिए – चारों वेदों में किसी प्रकार की अभद्रता, अवैज्ञानिकता या अतार्किकता का लवलेश भी नहीं है|

प्र. हिन्दू पुराणों में से उत्सवों का पालन करते हैं और पुराणों में यह अशालीन कथाएं हैं, फ़िर हिंदुत्व को इन कथाओं से अलग कैसे मानेंगे ?

उ. यह तर्क व्यर्थ है क्योंकि उत्सव धर्म से प्रेरित सामाजिक क्रिया कलाप है – अपने आप में धर्म नहीं है | उत्सव और उनकी विधियाँ भारत में दो-दो किलोमीटर के फ़ासले पर बदलती जाती हैं – इस वैविध्य को जहां तक वेदानुकूल है – उत्साहित किया गया है | हिन्दू लोग त्यौहारों को सामाजिक प्रसंग की तरह लेते हैं ताकि अपने आदर्शों के प्रति सम्मान प्रकट कर सकें और अच्छाई के प्रति कृतसंकल्प हो सकें | त्यौहारों को मनाने का स्वरुप हमेशा समय, स्थान और समाज के अनुसार बदलता रहता है | समय-समय पर स्वरुप बिगड़ भी जाता है पर इसका धर्म से कोई सम्बन्ध नहीं, जो हमेशा शाश्वत बना रहता है | किसी भी उत्सव में इन अश्लील कहानियों का पाठ नहीं किया जाता बल्कि अपनी श्रद्धा और वचन बद्धता को प्रदर्शित करने के लिए इन दिनों संयम का पालन किया जाता है |

प्र. तब फ़िर ये कथाएं आपकी संस्कृति का हिस्सा क्यों हैं ?

उ. किसने कहा कि यह कहानियां हमारी संस्कृति का हिस्सा हैं ?जन्मना ब्राह्मण धार्मिक ग्रंथों के सबसे नजदीक हैं | अगर ये हमारी संस्कृति का अभिन्न अंग होती,तो यह कैसे कहा जा सकता है कि –

१.ब्राह्मण समाज (इस लेख में ब्राह्मण से मेरा आशय जन्मना ब्राह्मण से है| ) मात्र भारत में ही नहीं अपितु पूरे विश्व में सर्वाधिक एक पत्नीव्रती समाज है |

२. कई ब्राह्मण ब्रह्मचर्य और आत्म- संयम का पालन उस स्तर तक करते हैं जिसे अरबी मानसिकता वाले शायद अस्वाभाविक मानें |

३. किसी ब्राह्मण ने कभी काशी या मथुरा में ऐसा कोई यज्ञ संयोजित नहीं किया – जिसमें हिंसा, असभ्यता या अश्लीलता समाविष्ट हो |

४.जैसा कि इन गलत कथाओं में प्रचलित किया गया है, कोई भी ब्राह्मण इस तरह रखैल नहीं रखता या व्यभिचारी नहीं है |

इन कथाओं को संस्कृति का हिस्सा बनाने के बदले इन से उपेक्षा बरती गई है, इन्हें अस्वीकार किया गया है या वैदिक धर्म की परिधि ( जो लेख के पहले तीन बिन्दुओं में वर्णित हैं | ) में इनका अलंकारिक अर्थ लिया गया है |

प्र. बहुत से नकली गुरुओं के सेक्स – स्कैंडल ( अनैतिक आचरण ) में फंसे होने की खबरें आती रहती हैं ?

उ. अगर इस तरह की अनर्गल बातें हिन्दू धर्म का हिस्सा होती, तो इसे ” स्कैंडल” (कलंकपूर्ण कृत्य) कहा ही नहीं जाता | किसी पाखंडी गुरु की ऐसी करतूतें सामने आते ही, अन्य किसी भी अपराधी की तरह ही समाज में उसका कड़ा निषेध किया जाता है | और यदि हिन्दू धर्म में किसी भी तरह की लम्पटता का कोई स्थान होता तो यह खबर सुर्ख़ियों में आती ही नहीं बल्कि यह तो समाज में व्याप्त एक सामान्य बात होती ! मिसाल के तौर पर इरान जैसे देश में किसी इमाम के मुता या अस्थायी विवाह कर लेने को कोई चर्चा का विषय नहीं बनाता क्योंकि वहां मुता अनिवार्यतः समाज का हिस्सा है |

जिस तरह यह नहीं कहा जा सकता कि इस्लाम औरतों के बिकिनी शो को जायज़ ठहराता है चूँकि एक अरब महिला ने मिस अमेरिका का ख़िताब हासिल कर लिया है, उसी तरह किसी झूठे गुरु के कारनामों से हिन्दू धर्म का कोई वास्ता नहीं है | इसके विपरीत, उसके दुष्कृत्यों के लिए उसे निन्दित किए जाने की वास्तविकता से यह प्रकट होता है कि इस तरह के विकारों का हिन्दू धर्म में कोई स्थान नहीं है |

प्र. मुस्लिम भी उन सब का अनुसरण नहीं करते, जिनको आप अपनी साइट पर नाम धरते रहते हैं, फ़िर यह दोहरा मापदंड क्यों ?

उ. कृपया हमारे लेखों को ज़रा ध्यानपूर्वक पढ़िए | सामान्यतः हमने कभी भी सम्पूर्ण मुस्लिम समाज या मुहम्मद को निन्दित नहीं किया | हम तो सिर्फ़ नई कुरान और हदीसों को दोषी मानते हैं और उन कठमुल्लाओं या उन्मादियों को निंदनीय मानता हैं, जो इन किताबों (नई कुरान और हदीसों ) के प्रत्येक शब्द को बिलकुल सही और अंतिम मानते हैं | अगर ये धर्म जुनूनी यह मान लें कि कुरान या हदीस की वह सभी आयतें जो आपत्तिजनक हैं ( अश्लील, मुहम्मद को कलंकित करने वाली, कामुकता के लिए गुलामी को ज़ायज ठहरानेवाली, जिस लड़की से शारीरिक सम्बन्ध रहा हो उसकी माँ से भी शादी की इजाजत, गैर – मुस्लिमों के लिए दोज़ख की व्यवस्था, महिलाओं की बुद्धि को आधा ही आंकना, स्त्रियों को बांदी रख लेने पर कोई पाबन्दी न होना, इत्यादि, इत्यादि –)  इस्लाम का हिस्सा नहीं हैं और उन्हें ख़ारिज कर देना चाहिए, तो हमें इस्लाम पर बिलकुल कोई आपत्ति नहीं होगी बल्कि हदीसों और कुरान की अनुचित आयतों को निकल देने पर इस्लाम वैदिक धर्म की ही शाखा बन जाएगा |

प्र. आपका सिद्धांत विचित्र है, हिन्दू जो भी करें आप उसका समर्थन कर रहे हैं और फ़िर भी उन सभी कथाओं को अस्वीकार कर रहें हैं जो हिन्दुओं के आचरण  का आधार हैं ?

उ. १.हिन्दुओं के द्वारा कुछ भी किए जाने को मैंने कभी उचित नहीं ठहराया | हिन्दुओं की कार्य प्रणाली में भी छिद्र हैं अन्यथा कैसे ये बर्बर विदेशी पंथ भारतवर्ष में सेंध लगा पाते? वास्तविक हिन्दू धर्म जो वेदों पर आधारित है ( वैदिक धर्म ) और जिसे हम आज अज्ञानतावश अपनाये बैठे हैं – इन दोनों में निश्चित तौर पर अंतर है |

२.पर यह फर्क हिन्दू धर्म के नहीं बल्कि उसके अनुगामियों के दोष इंगित करता है | मैं जाकिर नाइक से एक बिंदु पर सहमत हूं कि ‘ कार की परख उसके चालक से नहीं, उसके इंजिन से की जानी चाहिए | इसी तरह, हिन्दुत्व का मूल्यांकन वेदों से और उसके मूलभूत सिद्धांतों से किया जाना चाहिए ना कि गलत अनुगामियों से या मिथ्या कथाओं से – जो बाद में गढ़ ली गईं |

३.यह सही है कि आज के प्रचलित स्वरुप में हिन्दू प्रथाओं में ( सामान्यतः ) कई खामियां हैं, जैसे-

– जन्मगत जाति व्यवस्था का होना जो समाज को खंडित कर रही है |

– अपने मूलाधार वेदों और वैदिक धर्म की अवहेलना करना |

– ऊपरी दिखावे पर भरोसा करना और हर किसी पर आसानी से विश्वास करने की प्रवृत्ति |

– झूठ और अधर्म से सख्ती से निपटने में बचते रहने की आदत |

– लव जिहाद के बढ़ते खतरे, धर्मांतरण के वायरस, छद्म धर्मनिरपेक्षता की मनोवृत्ति, इत्यादि की तरफ़ निष्क्रिय रवैया रखना |

– अपने धर्म के मूल और उसके तत्वों को जानने में कम रुझान रखना,  इत्यादि हिन्दुओं की दुर्दशा के कई कारण हैं |

निश्चित तौर पर हम इन सभी से छूटने का प्रयास कर रहे हैं ताकि धर्मांतरण के वायरस से हम अपने धर्म का रक्षण कर सकें और वैदिक आदर्शों के समीप पहुँच सकें |

४. परंतु इन सब के बावजूद यह साफ़ है कि हिन्दू धर्म में कहीं या हिन्दुओं के दृष्टिकोण में – जिस किसी रूप में भी वे अपने धर्म का अनुपालन करते हैं, कहीं कोई अभद्रता का स्थान नहीं है | हो सकता है वे गुमराह हों, अनभिज्ञ हों, आसानी से ठगे जा सकते हों, विरुद्ध समीक्षा न कर पाते हों, हद से ज्यादा सरल हों पर वे धर्म के प्रसंग में अश्लील या अशिष्ट नहीं हैं | कुछ लोग ऐसे हो सकते हैं जो निर्लज्जता और फूहड़ता में ही लिप्त रहते हों जैसे फ़िल्मी सितारे और उनके भक्तगण, लेकिन इस में उनके हिन्दू होने से कोई ताल्लुक नहीं है |

५. यह अग्निवीर की चुनौती है – उन सभी को जो हिन्दुत्व में अश्लीलता दिखाने का प्रयास कर रहे हैं – प्रमाणित करें कि वेद अश्लील हैं अथवा लेख के पहले तीन बिन्दुओं में वर्णित धर्म के लक्षणों को अश्लील प्रमाणित कर के दिखाएँ | ऐसी भूली- बिसरी पुस्तकें जिन्हें हिन्दू संजीदगी से नहीं लेते, उनकी रट लगाने से काम नहीं चलेगा क्योंकि हिन्दुत्व स्वतः ही किसी भी ऐसी बेहूदगी को निकाल फेंकता है – चाहे उसका स्रोत या कारण कोई भी रहा हो | तो इन फर्जी प्रचार के आयोजकों को उनकी आधारहीन कोशिशें बंद कर देनी चाहिए| इसके स्थान पर उनकी अपनी मज़हबी किताबों (आखिरी शब्द तक जिसे वे पूर्ण और अंतिम मानते हैं|) के उन अंशों की एक सूची बना कर तैयार करनी चाहिए जिनकी मौजूदगी में उनका मज़हब  अश्लीलता से सराबोर हो रहा है और इस कलंक से बचने के लिए जिन्हें तुरंत निरस्त किए जाने की आवश्यकता है|

प्र. वेद ,वेद,वेद. लगता है कि आप पर वेदों का भूत सवार है | पर उन मतों के बारे में क्या कहेंगे जो वेदों को ईश्वरीय नहीं मानते और गीता तथा उपनिषदों के बारे में क्या कहना चाहेंगे ?

उ.

१. कृपया Vedic Religion in Brief और what is Vedic Religion को ध्यान से पढ़ें साथ ही लेख की शुरुआत में दिए गये धर्म के ११ लक्षणों का भी पुनरावलोकन करें |जो मत या पंथ वेदों के ईश्वरीय होने में संदेह करते हैं वे भी इन्हें अपनाये हुए हैं |

२.जिन मतों के बारे में आप का दावा है कि वे वेद विरोधी हैं दरअसल वेदों के नाम पर थोपी गई दुष्प्रथाओं का विरोध कर के अपरोक्षतया वे भी वेदों का ही अनुसरण कर रहे हैं |

३.कुरान और बाइबल की तरह वेद किसी काल्पनिक जन्नत को हासिल करने के लिए स्वयं को ईश्वरीय या दैवी घोषित नहीं करते| वेदों के अनुसार निरंतर सत्य का स्वीकार करने से और  झूठ को त्यागते रहने से सत्य अपने आप स्पष्ट होता चला जाता है | मेरे लिए वेदों को ईश्वरीय मानने के तर्क और प्रमाण उपस्थित हैं | पर यदि कोई वेदों के ईश्वरीय होने में विश्वास नहीं करता है लेकिन वह पूर्वाग्रहों से रहित होकर अपनी समझ और मंशा का सही उपयोग करे तो वह वेदों का ही अनुकरण कर रहा है |

४. गीता और उपनिषद अद्भुत ग्रंथ हैं, देखा जाए तो गीता के उपदेशों का आधार यजुर्वेद का ४० वां अध्याय ही है | सभी प्रमुख उपनिषदें बौद्धिक खुराक का काम करती हैं, छ: दर्शन और अन्य धर्म ग्रंथ भी इसी तरह हैं | हमारी उन पर श्रद्धा है और वहीं तक है जहां तक वे वेदों के अनुसार हैं | मसलन, अल्लोपनिषद किसी धर्मांतरण के विषाणु का बनाया हुआ एक ज़ाली उपनिषद है |

५.  आप को गीता और उपनिषद में क्या अश्लील नज़र आया ? हिन्दुत्व पर जैसे- तैसे अश्लीलता थोपने की कुचेष्टा की बजाए अगर आप गीता के दूसरे और  तीसरे अध्याय या इशोपनिषद के १७ मंत्रों का स्वाध्याय कर लें तो खरे अर्थों में यहीं पर आप ज़न्नत  हासिल कर लेंगे | वैदिक बनें क्योंकि वेदों के अलावा अन्य कहीं धर्म नहीं है |

और हिन्दुओं के लिए मैं हिन्दुत्व के आधार को दुहराना चाहूंगा – कुछ भी और सब कुछ  जो वेदों के ख़िलाफ़ है, धर्म नहीं है | अतः हिन्दुत्व सिर्फ़ नैतिकता,शुद्धता और चरित्र पर ही आधारित है |

सभी  निष्ठावान और देशभक्त हिन्दुओं को हिन्दुत्व के इस मूलाधार का चहुँ ओर विस्तार करना चाहिए ताकि हम सफलतापूर्वक धर्मांतरण के वायरस के खतरे से उबार सकें |

अग्निवीर की साइट को तो हैक कर लिया गया था | लेकिन हमारे धर्म को विदेशी जड़वादी, हठाग्रही और ज़ुनूनी लोग असहिष्णुता और छल (जो हमारे धर्म का हिस्सा और विचार कभी रहा ही नहीं ) में विश्वास करनेवाले छीन कर ले जाएं यह हम कभी बरदाश्त नहीं करेंगे |

 

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  1. Charvak_pathik says

    Pranaaam Agniveer Mahoday,
    Mera anurodh hai ki kripa karke aap yeh mithya-vidhwansak lekh angrezi mein anuvaadit kar prsatut karein, taaki adhik se adhik gyaanjaal pathik ise parhkar is se prabhaavit ho sakein. Hindi mein hi yeh lekh prastut karne par adhiktar gan Sanatan Satya ki agni ke taap se vanchit reh jaate hain!! Angrezi bhaasa ke vartan se sarvasva vishwa mein is taap ka prasaar evam prachaar ho sakta hai!!!

  2. दीपक says

    नमस्ते अग्निवीर जी , बहुत सुन्दर लेख , आपनी सारी शंकाओं का निवारण एक लेख से कर दिया , आपका साधुवाद | ईश्वर हम सब को सदबुद्धि दे | ओउम |

  3. says

    ईश्वर के रचे गये सभी देवजनो को नमस्कार !

    शिव-लिंगम का अर्थ बिल्कुल ग़लत निकाला गया है l

    शिव एक महान तपस्वी थे जिनका निवास कैलाश था. फिर वे उत्तर भारत के मैदानी भाग मे आ गये l शिव समाधि मे लीन रहते थे क्योंकि वी एक तपस्वी थे l लेकिन कुछ मूर्ख पाखंडियों ने उनको परम-ब्रह्म की उपाधि दे डाली l उनके त्रि-नेत्र (शिव-लिंग) के अर्थ का अनर्थ कर डाला l

    यह सर्वविदित है की शिव अधिकाँशतः तपस्या (ध्यान-योग) मे लीन रहते थे l उन्होने त्रि-नेत्र ( ध्यान की कुंडलनी शक्ति ) को समझ लिया था l त्रि-नेत्र कोई वास्तविक नेत्र ना होकर पारलौकिक संसार की अनुभूति के लिए प्रवेश-द्वार थी l इसको हम Sub-Conscious mind/Conscious mind भी कह सकते हैं l

    त्रि-नेत्र दो आँखों के बीच मे लेकिन थोड़ा ऊपर – मस्तक मे केंद्रित होता है l इसका स्थान मस्तिष्क मे है जिसको पिनीयाल-ग्लॅंड ( Pineal gland ) कहते है l पिनीयाल ग्लॅंड ( Pineal gland ) ही हमे, आनंद, दुख, काम-वासना के अनुभूति दिलाता है l इसको कंट्रोल करने वाला शांत एवं कुशाग्र बुद्धि के प्रवत्ति का व्यक्ति होता है l

    पिनीयाल ग्लॅंड को बुद्धिमान संतों और ऋषियों ने खोजा ताक़ि, हम उसपर अपना ध्यान केंद्रित करें l त्रि-नेत्र को समझने का प्रयास हमे करना चाहिए था किंतु हम अर्थ समझकर उसकी गहराई मे ना जाकर, मूर्ति के रूप मे उसकी पूजा करने लगे l हमे स्वयं नही मालूम था की शिव-लिंग का क्या महत्व है, लेकिन पूजते रहे l कालांतर मे (कई शताब्दियों के निकलने के बाद), हम शिव-लिंग तो मानव जननेंद्रिय का रूप देकर उसके स्वरूप मे बदलाव करते रहे l उसके स्वरूप मे बदलाव के साथ साथ हमने उसके सही नाम को भी भ्रष्ट कर डाला l

    आश्चर्य की बात यह है की, यह बात मुझे एक साधु ने कई साल पहले बताई थी l मैने उनकी बातों का खंडन किया की ऐसा हो ही नही सकता l लेकिन आज समझ मे आया की वे महापुरुष सही थे l

  4. Rashmi says

    This article reflects True pictures of India.
    I have been a witness of conversions happening in Tamil nadu , Andhra Pradesh , Kerala.
    Recently shifted to Visakhapatnam. In front of my house there is a church coming up wish i can record everything and put up on net. My gullible hindu’s are being converted.
    One of my close friend told me , that one day their kids were playing togather with other Kids in a multicultural society. The kids told lets recite gayatri mantra, the christian kids said my mother has told not to say OM and other mantras as it is a bad word. The christians even forbid other christians to talk to Hindus. Moreover christians in organisations are favouring other christians. My friend was searching a music teacher for her daughter, she contacted Mr. Paul a malyalee christian, retired Indian Navy sailor, He told her i have two rates.I charge more from Hindus and less for christians. Andhra pradesh is the Hot bed for conversion activities. This Mr paul is staying in Visakhapatnam.
    In christian Run colleges fee for Hindus is double / more , for christians is less.

    My christian maid in OOty used to tell me Hindus are killing we christians in Orissa Kandhamaal. As i had read Orissa in The cross fire by branon parker i knew what is the problem , infact conversion.

    We hindus need to unite and fight back with knowledge. I have lived in all 3 states Kerala, Chennai/TN and now AP. The revelation in “breaking India” are coming true.

    • Akhila says

      Fact of kandhamal, orissa –
      Pano, a sceduled tribe of orissa. Some of them coverted to christian, but still maintained the status of st to get reservation. Swamiji filed a petition in High Court to remove their status as st. Those people whn heard the same, came in mass and killed swamiji. Every one present there knew very well who and how killed him.
      Aftr killing swamiji they attacked people of unconverted pano tribe. They fought with each other, later other people joined the mass.

        • shravak says

          the Pana People despite getting converted to Christianity want save them from loss of financial benefits due to conversion, are demanding ST status so since 1981 time to time this has been reason for the tension. The dispute of Brahmanigaon approves purely communal one. According to the villagers, on the occasion of Christmas the Christian people were wanting to erect a welcome gate and tent on the market road while the Hindu people were opposing this on the ground that the erected gate is at the place of Durga Puja Mandap and when
          the Church is inside why the gate is required on the road? For this reason there was conflict between Hindus and the Christians, in which certain Hindu youths were injured and shops of Hindus were burnt. It infers that though there was earlier tension this incident became the reason for a communal dispute. Similarly, on hearing regarding this incident when Swami Laxmanananda was coming towards Brahmanigaon, he was attacked at Dasingbari. There may be difference of version regarding the initiation of the Dasingbari incident but that the Swami
          was attacked by Christian youths is not much disputed. As a reaction, the Hindu people burnt the shops, vehicles etc. of the Christian people at Brahmanigaon and later on the houses of Hindus at Udiashahi Mohalla were burnt by the Christians. After number of days of this incident the houses of Hindu People of Kinarigaon were burnt. In these incidents involvement of Maoist is also alleged on the basis of recovery of sophisticated arms from the rioters by the police. Though at Barakhama the stoning on the rally of the Kondhs and death of one Khageshwar Malik aggravated the situation in which number of the houses of the Christian people in Barakhama were burnt and Churches at Barakhama and Baliguda or nearby places were either burnt or damaged. Incident of burning the Shiv Temple at Ghumikia was also an aggravating factor.

        • shravak says

          The Christian people alleged Swami Laxmanananda responsible for this incident and also alleged
          hand of R.S.S. and Vishva Hindu Parishad behind it, while Swami Laxmanananda alleged that the reason for these incidents has been forceful and deceitful conversion of Hindus to Christianity. Though there were allegations regarding the hand of RSS and VHP no evidence regarding their involvement came forward. Undisputedly, Swami Laxmanananda has been working in Kandhamal for more than 40 years and people have great faith in him while at the time of attack on him there was not a single follower of RSS or VHP there. These organisations may have faith and following in Swamiji but this incident was clearly an out come of the incident of 23.12.2007 at Brahmanigaon and 24th December at Dasingbari. The police on 23rth tried to pacify the things but if the gate would not have been erected by the Christians forcefully then the incident of 23rd would not have been caused. Thousands of houses would not have been set on fire and in lacs
          of the people there would not have been any terror, doubt or hatred.

          • Rashmi says

            Shravak and Akhila ji,

            more such incidences are going to happen, after The passing of Communal violence bill. I read this it scary and one sided. Agniveer needless to say, if Kandahamaal happens again any where in India its majority secular Hindus suffer . Plese all of you read this bill. Congress is trying hard under Sonia to pass this.

            http://satyameva-jayate.org/2011/05/26/communal-violence/- Lossing sleep over communal violence and targeted hate propaganda.

            Refer to HJS site also, they have given who all under the chairmanship of sonia has drafted this bill.

            After this tyranny of aurangjeb again starts.
            How long mother india and we hindus will suffer

    • Bilal ( Revert ) says

      Can U tell me where the word Hindu is mentioned in the scriptures. Which ever scripture u would like to take, take it. I have repeated this question again.

      • Truth Seeker says

        @Bilal
        Hindu word nowhere mention in any scripture. It is name given by foreigner to people who used to live nearby Sindhu river. Veda is universal there is nowhere mention name of any cult, sect or Hindu, Muslim, Christin, Sikh unlike Kuran which focus on Arab & Muslim. Veda are for all. & Vedic God kind enough does not punish eternally to his children unlike cruel Allah.

        • Bilal ( Revert ) says says

          U mean to say what ever wrong you do, what ever sins u commit even though Vedic God won’t punish.

          • Indian Agnostic says

            Namaste Bilal

            the answer to your question was elegantly given by a western philosopher :

            “your are punished BY your sins, not FOR them”

            we are responsible for our sinful actions and we are the ones who need to atone them

          • Truth Seeker says

            @Bilal Namaste Brother
            According to Vedic view there is no concept of punishment in broad terms, in worldly sense we can say one will get punishment for misdeed but punishment would be for betterment of one. For eg. As teacher punish the student when student does not do home work, the punishment given for the betterment of student so that next time he/she would not commit this misdeed. But Kuran Allah punish eternally to his children for the finite misdeed, there is no second birth concept in Kuran except eternal hell unlike Veda. If you really interested to seek the truth & want more read article link given below.
            http://agniveer.com/548/theory-of-karma-hinduism/

          • Prtboy says

            Yes gods are mentioned in Veda.and often seen been prayed. but do you know even rigveda has skeptic, agnoist and atheistic view.
            Among The 6 orthodox(Astik) vedik philosphy 2 (Samkhya and early mimansa) are atheist, 3 are theist skeptic and dualistic fusion and only one is logical theist(Nyay)(Creation need creator-the logic).
            So vedic god have no existance other than in mantras and in mind(early mimansa).It is the power of conscience that the prayers are answered(power of mantra and mind).
            Very little in hidu scripture it is said about sin and threats.
            Majority of scripture used word “it is better if”, “it is believed”,”people says”.
            Like in Rigveda (Full of conventions but no hard rule over pitty issues)”The vegans should be treated whith regards”
            The little about sin is said for forced sex, popularizing Hatred etc.

          • Prtboy says

            For get about vedic gods,But take god/s as general.If they exist they have nothing to do with humans or animals.
            The human effort is itself responsible for its fruifulling desires(Mimansa).
            Whence was it produced? Whence is this creation?
            The gods came afterwards, with the creation of this universe.(rigveda)
            It is the human doing which has result in future no deva or ishwara(Karma)

      • Prtboy says

        About Hindu Term-
        Every One know the history of word but lot more of people know how our constitutin sees it
        “Any one who declares himself as hindu is a hindu”
        and then after declaration it was enforced(rather seemed by popular belief)that one who do not belong to Abrahmic religionn, is not Adivasi, buddhist, sikh, or jain is a hindu.

    • says

      @Rashmi,

      I am also from Vishakapatnam.I donot believe that a woman from vizag can speak this way.All the hindu women I see or interact with in Vizag r secular n think the world around them is peacefull n just like the way they want it.Nice post.Yes i also went to a church twice.And the priest was explaining how he went to a poor community near 104 area vizag n and how the church is helping them by giving money n other stuff.Now he din’t mention abt conversion but I am sure he must have gone to them for the same cause.Just donot understand wat they r going to achieve in doing this.Converting ppl n destroying their culture n their tradition and making them follow some foriegn culture which has got nothing to do with India is ridiculous.

  5. Totagoto says

    A detailed report on the case of Farah Hatim, Catholic girl kidnapped and forcibly Islamized in Rahim Yar Khan, Punjab province of Pakistan, will be presented in the next few weeks at the UN Council for Human Rights in Geneva. Local NGOs sponsoring the appeal are: “Dominicans for Justice and Peace” “Franciscans International” and “Pax Romana.”

    Christian student nurse Farah Hatim from Jinnah Colony of Rahim Yar Khan, aged 24, was kidnapped on May 7, 2011 by a Muslim young man Zeeshan Iliyas with the intent to convert her to Islam and forceably marry her. Unfortunately, Superintendent Police Ashfaq Gujjar and SHO city Nazir Shah threatened the victim’s family and did not ready to register a case against the culprit.

    Khalid Gill, a Christian rights activist from APMA told Minorities Concern of Pakistan that police only registered the case when about 400 Christians protested in from of police office.” Despite Christians continues protests, police has recovered Miss Hatim, who is still missing.

    TWO CHRISTIAN SISTERS: Two Christian girls were kidnapped by a group of Muslims and forced to convert to Islam and get married. Rebbecca Masih and Saima Masih were kidnapped by a wealthy local businessman, Muhammad Waseem on May 24, 2011 in Jhang, in district of Faisalabad, according to Agenzia Fides. On May 25, Muhammad Waseem forcefully married Saima Masih, in the presence of the leader Muhammad Zubair Qasim, an active member of the banned extremist group “Sip-e-Sahaba”, often known for organizing kidnappings and forced conversions of Christian girls and Hindus.

    HINDU WOMEN: For several years, Hindu women have been forced to convert to Islam and marry Muslim men even though they are already married to Hindus. Since there is no evidence to prove their marital status, they are unable to take a legal stand on their issue. This was stated by schedule caste Hindu women during a press conference on June 23, The Express Tribune reported.

    Pakistan is home to 3.4 million schedule caste Hindus, also known…

  6. Indian Agnostic says

    Great Job! The hindi version will reach many more people .

    contrary to my presumption, there a lot many hindi websites with lot of actively contributing followers.

  7. Akhila says

    Right brother. What ever sin you do, god will not punish you for ever. Tat will give you a litle pain to restrain you from commiting the same mistake. Then tat will make you free to live again. When you will be free of all sins, tat will reward you and you will achieve salvation.
    God does nt want us to be tat’s slave, tat does nt want us to praise him, tat wants us to live a life without sins.
    Not to believe tat is not a sin. Sins are, to lie, to decieve, to kill, to rape, etc. If you live without these, even if you dont praise tat once in your life time, you will be rewarded..
    And if you are living your life with all sins, even if you pray 100 times a day, you will not be rewarded.
    Tat is not bound by any name, any gender, any place, any image.. Thank tat for giving you yet another chance to correct your mistakes.
    Amin(variant of om)

  8. raj.hyd says

    dharm kya hai ? kis vyakti ko dharmik kaha jayega ? kya ram ji ko namshkar karne se koi dharmik ho jayega ? ya radhe radhe ki mala japne se koi dharmik ho jayega , ya shuv ji murti pr dhudh ya pani ki dhara dslne koi dharmik ho jayega ? ya kuranko manne se ya adhikatam 5 bar namaj padhne se koi dhrmik ho jayega athva isa masih ji par astha rakhne se koi dharmik kahalane lgega ? kya dharm itna sasta hai ? kya dharm itna shartkaut hai ? chahe deshi vyakti ho ya videshi vyakti ya koi samuh ? kaise jana jaye ki vah dharmik vyakti hai ya adharmk vyakti ? uske liye ek matr sutr hai “dusre ke sath vahi vyavhar karo jo apne liye bhi pasand ay e ! ” jab ham nahi chahte ki koi hamse jhuth bole krodh kare ya koi rishvat mange , vyapar me koi anuchit labh le ya thage ! kiisi ko tang kare ! to sabse pahale PN yh kartavy ho jata hai ham svaym is kary ki pahal kare ! diusra bhale hi hme gali de lekin ham kisi ko gali dene ki bat soche bhi nahi ! ham nahi chahte hi koi janvar hame ya hamare bachhe ko ghatyal kare ya tang kare to hamari buddhi us janvar se bahut shreshth hai to ham kisi janvar ki ahtya nahi kare uska mans nahi khaye ! usko bhi jine ka adhikar de ! jab ham ek chinti ka nrman bh nahi kar sakte ya uskao jivan nahi de sakte to ham usko kyo mare uski jan kyo le ! aaj is vishv ane prkar ke “tatha kathit dharm granth ” kahi jane vali pustke dekhne ko milti hai ! jab ham uska adhyayan karte hai ! tab hamko dekhne ko milta hai ki koi kunvari kanya se utpanna ho kar apne ko siddh purush kahalvana chahta hai ! jara sochiye us granth ko ek parivar me baith karke kaise padha jaye ? kya hamare apke ghar ki koi kanya yah kahe ki hamko ishvar ki or se garbh aa gaya hai ? tab kitne parivar uski bat ko saty svikar karenge ? ek taha kathit rasool huye hai jo apni sagi 2[do] ladkiyo se santan utpatti karte hai ashchary yah hai ki is ka varnan bhi isi granth me mil jata hai! aisa hi kissa sankat ane par apni patni ko bahan bata diya jata hai ! kya aisi kitab ko bhi dharmik granth man liya jaye ? kya is pustak ko ek…

    • Ajay Kumar says

      @raj.hyd Namaste
      Aapne dharm ki bahut hi sundar pribhasha di hai. Jo ham apne liye sochate hai vaisa hi dusre ke liye bhi soche.

      • raj.hyd says

        manniy ajay ji, yah ek matr sarvbhaumik sutr hai, isme hindu ho ya muslman ,ya deshi ho ya videshi ,sabhi manushyo par bagair bhed bhav ke lagu kiya ja sakta hai! isi se sansar me shanti bhi layi ja sakti hai ! apne hamare vicharo ko samjha ,uske liyekotish: dhanyavad !

  9. raj.hyd says

    kya aisi pustak ko bhi kisi bhare parivar me padha ja sakta hai ? kya yah ashilil vyvharnahi hai ? kya in bato ko is pustak se nikala nahi ja sakta ? aise hi “thopit ” pratham rasool ji apne sharir se utpann honi vali kanya se hi sex karke bachhe utpann kar rahe hai bad me unke bachhe bhi sage bhai bahan hokar khule aam sex karke santan utpann kar rahe hai ?kya yah ashlilta nahi hai lekin us pustak ke bhakta aise karyo ki ninda karne ke bajaye” ishwar ki vyvstha “batakar bahut garv karte hai ? aise hi antim rasool hone ka dava karne vale apna pahala vivah mata saman mahila se karte hai lekin ashchary to yah hai ki ashikane rasool hone ka dava karne vale khud apna pahala nikah kisi vidhva ya mata saman umr ki kisi mahila se nahi karte ! fir bhi antim rasool hone ka dava karne vale ke jivan me us mata saman mahila ka itna dar raha ya prbhav raha jab tak vah mahila jivit rahi , tab tak vah kathit rasool kisi dusri mahila ya kanya ya kisi dasi se apne sex sambandh nahi jod paye ! uski jindgi me itna us mahila ne pyar diya , itna mast kar diya ya itna darakar rakha .iske bad bhi us rasool ke kathit bhakt kisi mata saman vidhva mahla ka “uddhar ” nahi karte ! kahin unke jivan me koi bandish n lag jaye !apna pahala vivah kisi vidhva se bhi nahi karte ! fir us kathit rasool ne us mahila ke marne ke bad sex ke liye itna “bechain ” ho gaya ki patniyo ka” bhandar ” laga diya, uske jivan me kafi khula pan aa gaya anek patniya ki poti saman bachhi se vivah kiya kamal to yah bhi raha uski kanya badi thi poti saman bachhi ko “mata ” kah kar pukarne ki majburi thi ! kya karti bechari apne pita ka jo kamal tha ?us kathit rasool ne bad me apni putrvadhu ko bhi nahi choda usse bhi bagair vivah ke sex kar liya fir yah bhi dava kiya hamara tumhara vivah to us khuda ne kar diya jo ham sbko paida karta hai ! vaise us vyakti ki yah tarif bhi hai ki usne ek das ko apna beta banaya usko putr saman pyar diya , uska vivah bhi aspas ki sabse “khubsurat” kanya se karvaya ! bad me usko bhi bagar vivah ke apni patni bana liya…

  10. raj.hyd says

    …. isse bhi usko sex se santushti nahi mili ! vah tadpta raha fir ladai ke maidan me jin purusho ki hatya ki uski mahilao ko apne samarthko me banta aurten bantne ki chij ho gai , kuch mahilao se svaym bhi avidh sambandh bana liye 1 jab uski mahilao ne apatti ki tab jhuthi kasam kha li ab aaj ke bad aisa kaam nahi karege !lekin ‘sex ka pyasa ” kahan rukne vala tha vah avaidh sambandh jari rahe ek putr bhi paida kar liya 1 lekin “devdoot ” hone ka dava karne vala khuda j se sidhe sambandh rakhne ka dava karne vala apne bachhe ko nahi bacha saka ! uski maut ho gai! batlaiye kisi manushy ka sabse bada dukh kya hota hai ? dhan to aata jata hai , bibi bhi dusri mul jati hai ! anek bar sex karke bhi jab putr mil jaye / ek “lotri ” ka nambar lag jaye ? kitni khushi milti hai ? yah lotri saman sukh `bhi jab sambhal nahi paye , tab kitna dukh milta hoga ? vah dukh bhi us kathit “devdoot ” ko jhelna pada ? sabke pita ji marte hai sabki mata ji bhi marti hai lekin apni santan hi apne samne mar jaye sabse badha dukh yahi hota hai 1 ek bachhi ke alava sabhi bachhe -bachhiyan uske jivan me marte gaye jo ek bachhi bhi bachi 1 vah bhi svaym ke mrane ke bad kuch mahine me hi vah bhi khuda ko pyari ho gai ! us kathit “dev doot ” ke andhe bhakto ko bhi ham dekhte hai , unki umr us sansar ko banane vale ne us kathit devdoot se jyada di ? unke bachhe bhi jivit hai 1 batlaiye kaun ishwar ke jyada nikat hai ? hamto yahi kahenge us “kathit devdoot” se uske andhe bhakto me se bahut se logon ko jyada umar mili v unke bchhe bhi jivit hai !

  11. raj.hyd says

    abhi kuch samay pahale havai jahaj me safar karne vale kuch sandigdh manushyo ke “pani” ki janch ki gai ! ki kahi is pani me” liqvid bomb” n ho ! havai jahaj me safar karne valo ki kuch vishesh janch bhi ki jaya karti hai ! lekin jahan se atank vadi ban sakte hai , jahan se atankvadi mansikta ka nirman ho sakta hai ya hota hai un kitabo ki un vichro ki janch kyo nahi ki jati ? yah kitabe to ashlilta sejyada bhayankar vichar diya karti hai ? vish ve anek desho ki sarkare jab burke par partibandh laga sakti hai to kuran v hadis ade ki bhi janch kyo nahi karti ? uske vishakt vicharo par khule aam charch kyo nahi ki ja sakti agar kuch logon ko kuran ke prati galat fahami ho bhi to uska bhi nirakaran ho jayega ! kyo ham jaise kuch logo ke vichar me sandeh rahe ! kyo karib 20 salo se kai lakh manushyo ko apne jivan ki ahuti deni padi ? karodo parivar ke sadasy barbad huye ! agar keval kuran v haadis ki kitab ki unke vicharo ki janch karne me taklif hoti hai to jitni bhi sansar me apne ko dharmik granth hone ka dava karti ho , un sabki ek bar janch karva li jaye 1 sabhi kitabo ka “dudh ka dudh pani ka pani “ho jayega ! aj sudan desh ka bantvara hua ! is bantvare ke liye karib 20 lakh manushyo ki hatya hui 1 jab apne desh bharat ka bantvara huya tab bhi karib 10 lakh manushyo ki hatya hui tab pakistan ka nirmanho paya tha ! yah halat tab hai jab apne desh ko dharmik desh kahalvane ka dava kiya jata ho ? ashilta se se bhi jayada bahyankar bat to manusho ki hatya hai , vah aaj bhi jari hai 1 yah hatya karne ki mansikta kaise banti hai ? nafarat ka nirman kaise hoa hai ? uske mul sutr ki janch kyo nki jaye ?is sansar ke kaun se desh ki sarkar iski himmat karegi ? sanyukt rashtr sangh is kam ki svayam pahal kyo nahi karta ? kuch logo ko bura lagta hai to lagne dijiye manushyo ki hatya karvane vali mansikta ka parda fash avashy kiya jana chaahiye ! jab kisi bhi desh ki pulis kisi bhi sandigdh vyak ki talashi le sakti hai usko pakad bhi sakti hai ! baba ramdev ji ko v unke anyayiyo ko adhi rat me jab log so rahe the,…

  12. raj.hyd says

    ….jab log so rahe the ,tab adhi rat ko polise vale sarkar ke nirdesh par hinsa karke bhi “shanti bhang “ke nampar ramlila maidan khali karva skti hai ! tab kai lakh manusho ki hatya hone ke bavjud sandeh yukt kitabo ki janch kyo nahi ki ja sakti ? un kitabo ko tahakathit dharmik kitabo ki “nakli mohar” ko dekh kar kyo choda jata hai ? aaj is desh me nakli noto ki bharmar ho gai hai tab bhi yah sankhya ek prtishat bhi nahi hai fir bhi sarakar ne kai sau karod ki mashine lagvakar har baink me bhej di hai jisse nakli not pakde jaye sarkar ne theek kadam uthaya fir bhi sarkar apne not ka sudhar nahi karti jisse nakli not nikal hi nahi paye ! vaise hai kathi nakli dham ki bhi janch kiye jane ki avshykata hai jisse samaj me nafarat n faile? manusho ko sahi dharm ki jankari mile kyo lakho manusho ki hatya ho ? jo lakho manushyo ki hatya ho chuki hai unke vicharo ka pardafash bhi kiya jaye !

  13. siva says

    i am on this site after a long time. namaste to all .i want to ask the muslims one question .what would their reaction be if a muslim is asked to spit or pee on a (say) plaster of paris idol of kabba or kick it because it would not be bad for him as he is insulting the idol & not allah and strengthening his faith in infinite allah. i belive they should make hindus organise such ceromonies so that they show how much agaist are they (muslims)agaist idol worship and show that kabba is just a direction from them

  14. raj.hyd says

    manniy shiva ji , mujhe nahi malum ki iska javab muslim kya denge? lekin ham apse yah kahana chahenge ki koi bhi hamari foto par ya koi hamari murti bana kar hamare hi samne us par peshab bhi kare ya maltyag kare tab bhi hame koi taklif nahi hogi kya muslim bandhu yah suvidha kisi muslim ko ya gair muslim ko dena pasnd karenge ?shyad nahi ?

    • Nadir Husain says

      Raj sahab sun ker bada accha laga ki koi aagar aapki photo per mooot de to bhi aap per koi farq nahi padega . shayad Shiva ko bhi na farq pade. kynnnki aaapke dharam me to mooot waise bhi shuddh mana jaaata hai .
      lekin agar koi aapki Maaata ki photo per mooot de ga to aap ka reaction kya hoga … ??

      • raj.hyd says

        manniy nadir ji , hamari mata ji ho ya pita ji ya koi guru . yah ham, kisi ki foto, chitr ,murti, smarak ,adi kuch bhi kyo n ho usme koi bhi mutr tyag mal tyag adi ya koi gali tyag bhi karega hamko koi bhi taklif nahi hogi ! aur kisi ko bhi taklif nahi honi chahiye ! lekin ap ya any muslim itne udar ho jaye iski ummid bahut kam hai ! jo kuran ki “kitab “ko ankho se lagaye , usko chume, vah any harakat kaise bardasht kar sakenge ! agar aap geeta ki kitab ko hamare samne uski kimat dene ke bad aag lagaye ya usko fade, nasht kare tab bhi hamko koi takleef nahi hogi ! kitab koi bhi ho vah dharm ka hissa nahi hoti ! mukhya bat to uska gyan hota hai ! tabhi kuch log ved ko yaad rakhte hai aur bahut se muslim bhi kuran ke hafij hote hai ! jo ham apko ya anyo ko suvidha de rahe hai VAHI SUVIDHA HAME DENE KA SAHAS AP YA ANY MUSLIM DENGE ? SHAYAD KABHI NAHI ? APKO “ACHHA LAGA” ISKE BAVJUD BHI !

        • Peter fantham says

          Mr. Raj .
          are u ppl here to promot Vedas or to criticise other religions. if u r promoting ur Vedas then stick it to ur own business. U backward ppl can only shout but cant do any thing .

          • Nadir Husain says

            Mr. Fantham ,
            Dont get shocked…….. ye log sirf apna fustration nikal rahe hain is site per. werna to aaapne dekha hoga ki inke so called yog guru ka kya haal huwa delhi me . inme se ek kehta hai ki inke bhagwan ki photo or murti tod do chaho to us per mooot bhi do or dooosra kehta hai ki murti or photo inke bhagwan ko represent kerti hain. Saari dunia Quran or Bible padhti hai to wo inke liye galat hai or VEDAS jinke naaam inke khud ke bacche nahi jaante usko promote ker rahe hain ye .

          • says

            @Peter

            I dont believe in Jesus, will I get heaven? Yes/No?

            Does Bible sticks itself to its own business? Does it not curse unbelievers? Yes/No?

            Why is it that Bible can curse unbelievers but Agniveer cant even analyze Bible/Quran? Do you have exclusive rights to criticize others?

            Who are you? Which race you belong to, forward or backward?

          • Amitesh says

            @Peter

            WOW! People who believe earth to be flat are classifying others as backward !

          • Prtboy says

            Peter Fatima are you really following whats been posted hardly any one has said any thing against religion before some people just started posting hatefull and insulting things.Some will ofcourse reply but plz read every one and on what he replies.
            Again backward realy ask ancient arabs and greeks feel about us.

          • arya pathik says

            Dear Mr. Peter Fanthom @

            this reply is specific to ur calling vedic / veda followers “backward” ONLY.

            If u have 5 bucks / Rs. than use that money to help urself. go and buy a small mirror and try to see ur backward christian face in it.

            If u call others backword that i think that u c urself as a forward christian. Also u suggest that Christianity is very forward. After reading the well known fact which i m quoting below, if u have any shame left in ur FORWARD christian blood, say sorry for ur comments and calling us backword. Have u Mr. FORWARD Peter Fanthom heard the name of Galileo Galilei

            WIKIPEDIA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_Galilei
            “……………………………………..Galileo Galilei (Italian pronunciation: [ɡaliˈlɛːo ɡaliˈlɛi]; 15 February 1564[4] – 8 January 1642),[1][5] commonly known as Galileo, was an Italian physicist, mathematician, astronomer, and philosopher who played a major role in the Scientific Revolution. His achievements include improvements to the telescope and consequent astronomical observations and support for Copernicanism. Galileo has been called the “father of modern observational astronomy”,[6] the “father of modern physics”,[7] the “father of science”,[7] and “the Father of Modern Science”.[8] According to Stephen Hawking, “Galileo, perhaps more than any other single person, was responsible for the birth of modern science”.[9]

            Galileo was found “vehemently suspect of heresy”, namely of having held the opinions that the Sun lies motionless at the centre of the universe, that the Earth is not at its centre and moves, and that one may hold and defend an opinion as probable after it has been declared contrary to Holy Scripture. He was required to “abjure, curse and detest” those opinions.[54]
            He was sentenced to formal imprisonment at the pleasure of the Inquisition.[55] On the following day this was commuted to house arrest, which he remained under for the rest of his life.
            His offending Dialogue was banned; and in an action…

      • original siva says

        @nadir
        jab(paper+colour(mixture) can represent ur mother.then why not clay/wood/marble etc+craving can not represent god.soch badi kar. kal ko warna tera galli ka mullah sahab maths pe bhi fatwa laga dega kyunki uske hisab se infinity ko darshaya nahi ja saktaur infinity ka symbol hota haiwaise hi hamare photos ya god k photot god ko repesent karte hain

        • Nadir Husain says

          Siva ,
          jo tu mujhe samjha raha hai wo tu is agniveer or raj ko samjha wo to tere tere bhagwan ke photo per kisssi se bhi moot kerwane ko razi hain. zara aankhe khol ker raj ke uper ke comment padh. or tub aaker humse baat ker.
          ek raj hai to Vedas ko sahi bata raha hai or keh raha hai ki photo or kitabe hindu ke liye koi mahatv nahi rakhti hai or ek tu hai tu keh raha hai photo tere bhagwan ko represent kerte hain . pehle ja ker un Daaku Valmiki or Baba ram dev jaise risshi muniyo ko pakad jinhone Ramayan or Vedas jaisi kitabe likhi uske baat aake baat ker.

          • original siva says

            paihle tu padh veadas k article ko.hindu ,jain,buddh,sikh jinki population terrorist muslims se jyada hai woh mante hain ek iswar ,parmatma (param awastha apne atma ki).puri philosophy main tujhe nahin samjah sakta.toh tu bina kitab padge bhi gyani aur moksha prapt kar sakta hai.buddhusm(pure mahaayana main,pure jainism,even veads jo aham bhrmasami/ so hum kehti hai)ki insan hi woh ishwar roop infinite hain aur isssssssiiiiiiii technology par sublimal messaging use karte hain.toh koi zarruri nahi ki kitab padgi jaye.kitab nahi padhni to ghorrrr tapasya karna padhta hai.

          • original siva says

            tera naya prophet munna bhai quack doctor(zakir nayak)(SAW) bhi vedas padhta hai unhe pakad.usse puch ki kyun allah ne muslims ko jyaadatar ya toh garib banya yah to beakal banay jo chudii,lipstick, kapda ,biryani,mechanic,kangi bechne main busy hai(waise koi burai nahi hain isme)and then claim they r having very high concioussness.saudi main sare fitter, plumber,toilet saaf karne wale ban jate hain.aise musalman honn to arabs ko toilet saaf karne walon ki kami nahi rahegi

          • Nadir Husain says

            siva mera naya prophet to abhi zinda hai . lekin tere to bhagwan bhi merne lage hain( Satya Sree Saayi Bhagwan) . itni badi badi baate kerta hai kya apne illitrate bhaiyoo ko ye bhi nahi bata sakta ki bhagwan merte nahi hain.
            tu india me paida huwa or india me hi mer jayega tune sirf india ke hi musalmaan dekhe hain. Gareeb India me gareeb Musalmaan hi honge . lekin musalmaan apni gareebi door kerne ki liye mehnat se kaaam kerta hai naaa ki apni biwi se dahej maang ker khata hai . tumne ya tere forfathers ne kabhi mehnat to ki nahi jo tu mehnat ko jaane . apni Biwi ko office me kaaam kerwa ke ( subko pata hai offices me Females ko kiss baat ki salary milti hai) apna gher chalane waale . zara jaa ke dekh to teri biwi or behen ke office ka boss usse kaon kaon kerwata hai .

            agar sharam aa jaye to saudi arab chale jaana wahan toilet saaf kerne ka kaam to tujhe mil hi jayega.

          • SDC says

            Arre Nadir toh phir yeh toh bata tera asli prophet momo kaise mar gaya, woh allah miyan ka khas banda tha na.

            Ha, waise apne biwi aur behen ko bhej saudi arab, waha sheikhon ko bahut jaarurat hain un jaise mawaliyon ki.

          • original siva says

            tu mullah ji hai isliye sochta hao ki laadies har jagah burka utha ke sex karna shuru kar deti hai.apne paigambar ki rah pe chal diya hai.tujhe hi jannat milega unlimited english scoth wine virgins ,roasted tandori,with extra toppings and sauce with live belly dancing and mujra with 10000 watts dj

            daya ati hai tere biwi pe aur behen pe mullah ji sex machine samajhna bandh kar nari ko

          • ADIL KHAN says

            bhai nasir in bhatke hue bhaiyo se jid karne koa koi fayda nahi h jab inhone dojakh me jane ka soch hi liya h to hum kya kar sakte h par ek vinti h bhai logo pleaase poori jankari to lo ye agneeveer apko bahka raha h please vedo ko achhi tarah se pad to sahi

          • arya pathik says

            Nadir @

            bhai, tu kys soch ke hindu / vedic dharmi logo mein burai nikal raha hai. tere dharam ki baat dekh le pehle. chal ab ginte hain. theek hai.

            1. Todays a very large section of Muslims do not believe that mohammed was the last Prophet.

            2. a very large section of Muslims believe that Mirza Ghulam Quadiani was the last prophet.

            3. a very large section of Muslims today believe in GRAVE WORSHIP.

            4. a very large section of Muslims today DRINK ALCOHOL.

            5. a very large section of Muslims [BOHRI MUSLIMS] today have Hindu traditions and they dont regard and follow ISLAMIC traditions.

            6. a very large section of Muslims [KHOJA MUSLIMS] today have hindu names and customs and they dont regard and follow ISLAMIC traditions.

            7. Today a very large section of Muslims [SHIAS] believe that AISHA was not a good person.

            8. Today a very large section of Muslims [WAHABIS] believe that Aisha killed Mohammed.

            9. Not A SINGLE MUSLIM KNOWS THAT THEY WILL GO TO HELL OR HEAVEN SINCE OUT OF 73 SECTS ONLY 1 WILL GO TO HEAVEN AND REST WILL GO TO HELL.

            10. Nasir, u r a Shia muslim. Tell me one question. Sunnis will go to heaven or shia or Barelvi or quadiani or bohri or khoja or ismaili or wahabi etc etc.

            Abe pehle ye toh pata kar le ki tum logo mein se kaun Jannat mein jaayega aur kaun Dozakh mein. ha ha ha ho ho ho.

            Pata laga ki Nasir Husain ne sabse jhagda kiya sochkar ki Jannat mein jaayega, par gaya Dozakh mein aur kaffir ke saath jalaya gaya DOzakh ki aag mein. ha ha ha.

      • Prtboy says

        There is a story that a hate full person always goes to Shiva temple and hit the liga with Lathi.Ones there was a storm but yet he got up and goes to temple and hit Shiva. Shiva being so happy on his devotion towards his own work blessesd him.
        Dont know how people will behave on this but its a popular story.
        Pee is not considered pure but alternate medicine speacialy the zebu’s pee because it antiseptic property.

      • Mozlem says

        Aap ke dharam me uut ke mut say ilaj hota that yani mohmmed uunt ka moot pita tha.
        Kripya janch le.

      • Prtboy says

        Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 71, Number 590:

        Narrated Anas: The climate of Medina did not suit some people, so the Prophet ordered them to follow his shepherd, i.e. his camels, and drink their milk and urine (as a medicine).[12]

        Sahih Bukhari Volume 8, Book 82, Number 794:

        Narrated Anas: Some people from the tribe of ‘Ukl came to the Prophet and embraced Islam. The climate of Medina did not suit them, so the Prophet ordered them to go to the (herd of milch) camels of charity and to drink, their milk and urine (as a medicine). They did so, and after they had recovered from their ailment (became healthy) they turned renegades (reverted from Islam) and killed the shepherd of the camels and took the camels away. The Prophet sent (some people) in their pursuit and so they were (caught and) brought, and the Prophets ordered that their hands and legs should be cut off and that their eyes should be branded with heated pieces of iron, and that their cut hands and legs should not be cauterized, till they die.[15][16]
        Abu Yusuf said that urine from camels can be consumed for medicinal purposes.[16]
        Sahih Bukhari is one of the six Hadits in which Prophet(may He rest in peace) Himself justifies drinking of urine(moot) of camel.
        May Allah who is mercyfull and omnipotent give you some of His grace and Knowledge

      • arya pathik says

        Nadir Husain @

        Islam is a very Multi Faced and Illogical religion. i wl tell how.

        In islam Urine of any human being is considered Haraam.
        BUT
        Mohammed asked his followers to drink URINE OF CAMEL. ha ha ha

        Which means that in Islam Camel’s urine can be gladly drunk but Human Being urine is Haraam. we fail to understand the LOGIC, if any, behind this great wisdom. ha haha.

        Look what Muslims do. first they ride the camel. than they drink the milk of she-camel. than they drink the urine of camel [approved as medicine by Mohammed] and than they kill the same animal to eat.

        Nadir Husain, u dont have any face to tell Hindu / Vedic people about drinking urine of cow for various reasons.

        1. drinking of Cow urine is only permitted with certain conditions and after due purification.

        2. Hadith tell us that Mohammed told his followers to go to Camels and drink it directly. lolzzzz.

        3. We dont have funny notions that Human’s urine is Haraam and Camel’s urine is Halaal. WHAT AN IDEA SIR JI.

        4. No one can find any rational behind this thing SAVE AND EXCEPT that Mohammed told so and Mohammed said so bcoz Allah told him to say so and Allah told him to say so bcoz ALLAH KNOWS THE BEST.

        EK IDEA JO BADAL DE AAPKI JINDAGI. HA HA HA HO HO HO.

        Dear Nasir, read ur scriptures and than comment on others. u dont have to be a BLIND FOLLOWER of zakir naik since many fatwas have been issued against him for his FUNNY speeches. He has been condemned to go to hell. read various articles exposing him by agniveer.

        I hope and believe that in ur other posts u will make an honest attempt to be little rational and logical.

        Also try to leave falsehood and accept truth [message of Vedas].

        Shubh raatri

  15. siva says

    the donkey followers of osama bin laden and their new found prophet dr zakir naik didnt teach them that their paigamabar was agaist idol worship beacuse at that time illiterate ,donkeys, uncultured ,hunger striken arabs were figting amongst themselves in the name of fals gods of each tribe and mass murders were taking place but our hindu idols are a result of great resrch work of our saints for millions of years

  16. siva says

    only thing is they are dumb headed and they continue to do so and then blame the west for all their problems

  17. siva says

    another thing the story of lord krishna having 16108wifes is not cooked up.it refer to the spiritual concept of multi dimensionig(i.e being at many places simultaneously with the physical body)that is known as ras lila of pure unconditional love.a feat that someone even of the highest order yogis cannot acheive.and zakir naik was making fun of that concept.the souce of this is HINDUISM REVEALED by H.H MASTER CHOA KOK SUI OF VANILLA (PHILLIPINES)WHO HAD STARTED THE WORLD PRANIC HEALING FOUNDATION IN PHILIPPINES.HE HAD WRITTEN VARIOUS BOOKS LIKE HINDUISM REVEALED , BUDDHISM, CHRISTIANITY REVEALED BUT NEVER WROTE THE BOOK ISLAM REVEALED AND GUESS THE REASONS WHY

  18. raj.hyd says

    ek saudee arab ki rahanevali mahila va uske pati me kuch varta lap hua , bad me uska pati bola ? kya baola yah parstut hai : ham aurat se haar gaye ,! ham aurat se haar gaye !!… haar gaye bhi haar gaye! ham aurat se haar gaye ! patni boli kya baoli 1 kaya baoli !! kya boli !!!….. sadiyo se ibadat karte aye , fir bhi apna man changa nahi kar paye , khud ko sahi nahi bana paye , fir bhi hamko burka pahanate ho ! dimag kharab tum apna karte ho, saja hamko dete ho ! iska javab ham mard hokar nahi de paye ! isliye ham haar gaye ! kya any koi muslim is ayrat ka javab de payega ? bajar bhare pade hai , sab bikri ke liye hai agar kisi ke pas dhan nahi bhai to iska yah arth nahi hai ki bajar vale apna saman akarshak dhang se n sajaye ! dhan hin vyakti yah shikayat nahi kar sakta ki bajar vale apna saman bajar me kyo lagate hai ! islye kisi bhi muslim mahila ko burka nahi pahanana chahiye ! aur n ashil pahanava pahanna chahiye roti kachhi bhi achhi nahi hoti hai aur n jali hui achhi hoti hai ! “siki ” hui achhi hoti hai aise hi mahila ka pahanava n burke vala hona chahiye aur bahut khule sharir vala hona chahiye ! shalin pahanava jyada achha rahega ! vah chahe purush ho ya mahila !

  19. original siva says

    goumutra is definitely sudhhhhhhhhhhhh and divine for me.jannnnnnnnnnnwaaarrrrrrrrr aurrrrrrrrr insani khunnnnnnnnn jo apke wahan suddh mana jata hai usse to lakh guna accha hai.jo reaction allah ke idol pe mutane ka tera hoga wahi reaction tere sawla ka mera reaction hoga

    • Nadir Husain says

      Shiva ker di Hinduon wali baat ………. agar muslims ke Allah ka koi Idol hota to Hindu or Muslims me farq hi kynn hota . agar tujhe kahin Allah ka Idol mile to beshak jaa ker moot le. jaa dhoondh le
      Raj bahahurrrrr dekho lo ye tumhara Veda ko hi mannne wala hai jo gaou mutr ko shubh keh raha hai . muslims ko theek kerne se pehle apne hi logo ko samjha lo wahi accha hai . ayse hi log paise ke liye christian ban jate hain .
      Jub tak Shiva jaise hindu rahenge hum logo ko phiker kerne ki koi zarurat nahi hai. Keep it Shiva . tumne Agniveer ki mehnat ki wattttt laga di

      • original siva says

        kar di na muullon wali baat.allah ka idol to maine kai musalman k ghar dekha hai.uski kabbah ki tasveer ko kai mullah pujate hain.tv dekhta hai kabhi??????????.jab tak nasir terroist jaise mullah hainmusalman ki terroist industry chalti rahegi.chairperson of mullah terroist industry mr OSAMA. PRESIDING DIRECTOR MANANNIYA DAWOOD,MEMON ,CHOTA SHAKEEL, ETC,SALES EXECUTIVE KASAB AND OTHER .AND FOR WORKERS NASIR BHAI AND COMPANY

        • Nadir Husain says

          Siva….. Tu Hindu hai or isssi wajah se tujhe her jagha bhagwan ke Idols hi nazar aa rahe hian . or haaan ab hum musalmano ko osama , dawood ibrahim , chota shakeel jaise terroist ki zarurat nahi hai…….. kalmadi, RAJA or BABA RAm dev jub tak hain hum kisssi or ki zarurat hi nahi hai. pehle sunte the ki musalmaan terrriosts hote hain ab to saare hindu bhi terrriost hone lage. farq itna hai koi goli , bomb ka use kerta hai koi corruption se hi apna kaaam bana de raha hai . Best of Luck . ab to Guns or Bombs ki zarurat hi nahi reh gayi hai.

          • SDC says

            Dono mein ek difference hain mere dost. Jaha ek aur hamare shanti priye muslan bhai aapne idols Osama, Dawood, etc. ka raag alaap na nahi bhulte, wohi hum hindu unko choron aur gaddaron ko (Kalmadi, Raja, etc) ki himayat nahi karte phirte. Baba Ramdev ki baat alag hain. Woh ek sacche crusader hain corruption ke khilaaf bolte hain, islam ya muslimano ke khilaaf nahi jaisa ki aapke dariwale mullah bolte hain.

          • Nadir Husain says

            @SDC……..
            ‘Dost’ kehne ke liye shukriya . aaapke reply me India ki condition saaf dikh rhi hai. Insha Allah ek din aysa zarur ayga jub India in sub logo se mehfooz ho jayega .

          • original siva says

            india pakitan ki tarah america ke bhik pe nahi zinda hai.

            pakistan america ka condom hai.jise caha use kiya aur uda diya

            pakistan china ka item dancer hai

            inernet pe hijab aur burka ke satth itne sex videos hai ki allah sharma jaye .dhundh lena kahin tere biwi aur behen ka burka k saath video toh nahi bana

          • Prtboy says

            You seem stupid and intelligent both at the same time..
            You seem Intelligent when you talk politly and about human, but to stupid when about religion.
            First about Muhammad, He united Arab Tribes who were pagan and prayed to different gods but beleive in Allah being supreme.They also Kept Idols (probably of Abraham and others)
            Friend, Hindus is a grouped of religion.Pee driking is not just hindu but has been a in culture of india far east and china, although we doesnt drink as it is and definately not now.
            Vedas are not book Veda meant knowledge(vid(to see/know)) came from Uidiou( in PIE language) which mean to see/to know.in latin too video(to see/to know) came from this PIE word. and thus english video.
            Vedas have god but also skeptic and even atheist mantras(just rythemic words).
            It was never believed that it came from god untill 10th-12th century AD.
            It was said it was eternat rule of world, nature or god, just like daltons atomic theory(which is wrong too but explains certain fact).
            If vedas were god word how there so much Rishi and Rishikas mentioned who wrote mantras.They were called Dristas again one who saw.
            I dont see idol worrshippin, cow worrshipping god or gods worrshipping as wrong(though they are alien to me).
            plz just tell me how they are wrong.
            But I also say that no one should dishonour ones belief though how much primitive it sounds. peeing on idol is wrong but also reacting on it will not help thus it is said dont bother.
            Acient arbas(The muslima) were so liberal they even made places for pagan asian and african gods of merchants and travellers to worrship.The modern Decimal system numeral is called hindu system in arabic.Trignometry, combinatrics,geometry, surgery all originated in hindu world and then prmoted in all world via Islam.So dont critisize other.
            Yes among the muslim you started critisizing otherwise it was peacefull.
            If you dont like dont write or atleast fave an un biased view otherwise leave

      • arya pathik says

        Nasir @

        BAHI MUSALMAAN toh Camel ka mutr [camel urine] peeta hai, wo bhi badi shaan ke saath. Mohammed ne bhi ji bharke piya hoga kyonki hadith mein aisa jikar aaya hai ki Mohamed ne logo se kaha ki “jao camle urine pee jao aur apni beemari bhaga lo”. ha ha ha ha.

        Nasir Bhai, tumne ab tak Mohammed ka sunna follow kiya ki nahi ? nahi kiya ho toh kal subah sabse pehle jaakar 1 CAMEL khoj lo aur CAMEL URINE pee jao. Bhai, mohammed ne kaha hai toh pena hi chahiye. Dil bharkar peena aur baaki sab logo ko bhi pilana.

        Agar tum sacche Muslim ho toh tum CAMEL URINE jarror piyoge kyonki har sachhe musalmaan ka farz hai ki wo anpi jindagi mohammed jaisi jiye. Toh agar Mohammed ne kaha ki CAMEL URINE pee jao, toh pee lena.

        Haan tum DIRECT bhi pee sakte ho, kisi bartan mein lekar peena hai, aisa hadith mein nhai likha. samjhe bahi, hadith ko follow karna aur DIRECT hi pee jaana. Allah tumse khush hoga kyonki tumne Mohammed ke baat maan li aur CAMEL URINE PEE LIYA.
        Agar mumkin ho toh ek CAMEL ghar mein rakh lena aur sab logo ko chai ki jagah dena kyonki ye toh sunna hai.

        Meri salah ko apni hi salah samjho aur hadith ko follow karke sacche musalmaan hone ka saboot do.

    • Peter fantham says

      Yeah u r rite Earth can be sperical Amitesh but atleast we dont drink Gaumutr dont take Bhangh as holy food. mind it

      • Amitesh says

        @Peter

        1. Good that you realized your “Backwardness” that your religious doctrines propagates.

        2. Perhaps your 21st century semi-literate missionaries are as ignorant as the ones who wrote the Bible. Thus they didn’t tell you that Gaumutr is used to make anti-cancer drugs and has even been patented for that. refer – http://www.indianexpress.com/news/cow-urine-drug-developed-by-rss-body-gets-us/635054/

        You should thank the Vedic followers for removing you away from backwardness :)

      • SDC says

        And to enlighten you further, Mr. Peter, bhang or cannabis has medicinal properties and is used in medicines. Overuse makes it a poison, which is the case with every drug.

      • says

        @Peter

        You dont drink Gomutr, you only get your women conceived by divine intervention. And rest backward people need to follow laws of nature for the same :(

        • Peter fantham says

          Again U forget ur Kunti Maata……… have u forget abt panduzz how dey born . u semi nude ppl

          • shravak says

            @peter farter

            Kid, first of all Mahabharta is not a religious book of hindus like bible/quran.

            btw…have you forgotten incestuous Relationships In The Bible?

          • arya pathik says

            Peter @

            ur prophet LOT made his two daughter pregnant.

            My Dearest Peter, in my humble opinion CHRISTIAN PROPHETS must be ROLE MODEL for christians.

            That being so, every christian and specially FORWARD christians like u must follow the NOBLE CONDUCT of ur HOLY prophet LOT.

            Every Christian including urself should make few things clear to BACKWARD hindus;

            1. do u think that LOT was a prophet ?

            2. every christian prophet should have ADDITIONAL QUALIFICATION of making his daughters pregnant.

            3. christian Prophets can have sex with their DAUGHTERS.

            4. DO U STILL treat Mr. LOT a prophet, jisne apni he BETI ki izzat LOOT li ?

            5. dont u think that his name was LOT kyonki usne apni beti ki izzat LOOT li thi ?

            6. do u agree that LOT wasnt a prophet ?

            7. do u personally wish to follow the footsteps of Mr. LOT ?

            MY Dear Mr. peter, if u can let me know about these things than i will be thankful to you.

      • says

        @ Hi Peter,
        I really dont understand y u guys want to talk abt Gomutra when vedas and Bagavad gita dont advice us to do that.But anyways..

        let the holy bible talk..Lets see what Bible says abt piss,shit and etc..

        Eziekel 4:12 And thou shalt eat it as barley cakes, and thou shalt bake it with dung that cometh out of man, in their sight….( lol!gomutra is i guess piss from a cow but look how god is advicing Eziekel to eat bread made out of shit that came out of his anus.Yukkk)
        Eziekel 4:15 Then he said unto me, Lo, I have given thee cow’s dung for man’s dung, and thou shalt prepare thy bread therewith.

        Ok so here God says enough to Eziekel’s self produced shit bread and he advices him to eat bread made out of cow dung.Wow yummy replacement.
        Bible God is really advicing some yummy stuff here.)

        Next….
        Isaiah 36:12 “But the commander replied, “Was it only to your master and you that my master sent me to say these things, and not to the men sitting on the wall–who, like you, will have to eat their own DUNGand drink their own URINE?” (wow bible from God sure has some real good yummy recipes.)

        The best …

        God says in Deuteronomy that if u donot follow any of his rules narrated by MOses then he will make u do this funny stuff in the verse below…

        Deuteronomy 28:56-57 ..The tender and delicate woman” will be forced to eat her own children “that cometh out from between her feet.” (Holy( shit) bible….Jesus (fukin )Christ (sorry to say this) ……but is ur God so insane.I have never seen such a sadistic god who says he will make women eat their own children who came out of their wombs JUST FOR NO FOLLWOING HIS RULES AND FOR NONBELIEF.He is a real caniballistic God.

        U better peep into ur bible and do stuff adviced by ur God.Dont try to act smart with the filth u collected from some foriegn land of Israel.Any ways Gomutra is coca cola for me when compared to god’s advice abt eating own shit.I wud never do that.But u can do it…… u r a Christian rit.All Israelis did it.Dont b…

  20. raj.hyd says

    jo log mans khate hai , unko peshab ya mal adi se kya parhej ? janvar ho ya koi insan uske sharir ke andar to gandgi ka “bhandar ” hota hai 1 kya peshab b mal adi sharir ke andar se nahi ata ? kya koi sabhya vayakti gahr ki nali me gira hua kela bhi chil karke bhi khana pasand karega ? fir kisi janvar ka mans khana ko kya kaha jayega ? jitne sal ka janvar, utne hi sal se uske sharir se gandgi nikalti hai ! fir us gandgi se parhej karke koi mans kha sakta hai ? fir go mutr ya gobar kisi bimari me upyogi ho to usko shodh kar ke kuch log istemal kar lete hai to usme kya burai hai ? yah amrit bimari adi ke liye ho sakti hai , lekin pratidin ke liye nahi ? shayad yah koi” bimari pruf ” nahi hoti hogi vaise iske liye to koi ayurvedachry [ vaidya]hi sahi bat batla sakta hai !

    • Peter fantham says

      @Raj.Hyd
      U said it rite Raj. U must be indicating by dis to specialy Christians and muslims “jo log mans khate hai , unko peshab ya mal adi se kya parhej ?” Hindu shud leave eating pork, motton ect. But If u ever have a tour to West bengal or Assam den u wud no not only chirstians and muslims all hindu eat pork and motton. b4 point out all these things plzzz came out from u village and have some knowledge of ur own brothers.

      • says

        @Peter fantham….eat what God says in the comment I posted earlier to u.There r somen verses from Bible plz eat stuff described in Bible.Chill.

      • raj.hyd says

        manniy peter ji , hamari bat sabhi par lagu hoti hai vah cahe hindu ho ya gair hindu ? yah kaise ho sakta hai ki agarmuslim ya isaai mans khaye to buri bat hai auragar hindu khaye to achhi bat ? yah to hargij sahi nahi ho sakta ! kisi bhi manushy ko mans adi padarth hargij nahi khana chahiye yah jqanvar ki hatya karke “hi ” mil pata hai !”jiyo aur jine do !” ka siddhant hi sahi rahega ! jab ham nahi chahte ki koi hame ya hamare kisi bachhe ko koi janvar singh adi mare to hame apni manusyta par garv karte huye kisi janvar ki hatya karne ke liye bh nahi soche !

        • zulfiquar haider says

          Agar ye itni he buri baat hai toh tumhare mandiron mein bali kyon dete hain. Kya tumhare ye baat tumhare in deve devta per bhi laagu hoti hai jo bali mangte hain

          • Truth Seeker says

            @zulfiquar haider
            Bhai aap car ki parakh uske driver se na kar bulki car se kare(Do not judge the car by driver) ye aapke paigamber jakir naik ka kahna hai to aap agar koi bali deta hai to wo hindu nahi bulki use muslman samajhna chahiye. Agar katrina kaif nanga natachi hai to iska arth yah nahi hai Islam ne usko permission di hai. Adhik jankari ke liye isko bhi padh le.
            वेदों में गोमांस?
            http://agniveer.com/4387/there-is-no-beef-in-vedas-hi/

          • raj.hyd says

            mahamahim shri zulfiqur ji kaun se devi evtaa bali mangte hai ? yah to anpadh log apne man se man lete hai jo sach nahi hai / jaise bahut se muslim [barelvi vale ]dargahon me jakar khuda jaisi ibadat kar lete hai,vahan shish jhukana duva mangna mannten mangnaa agarbatti jalana, chadarchadhana adi shamil rahata hai! [abhi pakistan ki padhi likhi muslim mahila videsh mantri hina ji bharat me aakar bharat ke videsh mantri adi se batchit karne aai thi, lekin vah bhi nijamuddin ki dargah v dilli sekareeb 400 kilomitar door ajmer ki dargah me jana, vahan chadar chadhana duva mangna ,mannate mangna nahi bhul pai ! yah sab karne ke bad hi pakistan ja saki ] lekin bahavi muslim aisa nahi karte / UNHONE to makka v madeena adi me muhammad ji ki kabar bhi hata di aur bhi bahut se “prtik ” hatadiye !

          • Nadir Husain says

            @ Zulfiquar…… ooohooo tum abhi in logo ko samjhe nahi . Ye Go Hatya nahi kerte hain lekin SATI Hatya me sabse aage rehte hain. YE mans nahi khate hain per apni patni ke baaap se dowry maang ker khane me inko koi sharam nahi aati.

            apne Dharam ki kitabe nahi padhte lekin doosro ki kitabo ko kaise ulta seedha kerna hai inko khub aata hai . isssi liye to inke vedo ke desh ko hamesha se looota ja raha hai . pehle musalamaan , phir christians phir ab to had ho gayi hindu hi India ko aag laga rhe hian . inke naye bhagwan ( Robbers Bhagwan param poojniye RAJA ji ne India ki waattt laga di hai .

            ek or sanyasi hain BABA RAMDEV……. ye koi 5th VED likhne hi wale the ki ram lila maidan me inki ih-lila samapt kerne ki koshish ker di gayi.

          • Truth Seeker says

            @Nadir Husain

            Bhai agar koi Mohmad ji ke raste par chalte huye 9 sal ki bacchi sex kare aur apni bahu smaan beti se sex kare to Allah Khus hoga ya Naraj. Aaap hame islam ke kanun ke aadhaar par bataye.

  21. original siva says

    @ nadir
    bewkuf pehele toh india ko garib kehna bandh kar .india main corruption ne watt laga di india ki main bhi manta hun .mullah ji mera bapu world tour kar chuka hai saudi , egypt , switzerland sub ghum chuka hai. allah ki dua se saudi main bhi plant head tha (aur kai hazaron muslims kam kar chuke hain unke under, egypt , baharin adi jagah bhi kam kiya hai).pastooni log pakistaniyon ko khul ke gali dete hain. bangladeshi ki kya ijjat hai mujhe mat samjah.egyppt ke engineer ko awwal number ke gadhe the .

    sara kam indian aur germans karte the aur sekh belly dancing main busy rehta tha tu mujhe mat samjha

    india ki popultaion bahut zyada hai aur apne dum pe paisa kamati hai .saudi ki tarah tel nahi hai jo khatam ho jane par chaddiiyon main ghumenge

    • Nadir Husain says

      @ orignal siva
      Bewakoof tune bahot si countries ghoomli lekin India ke kisssi Pagalkhane ko nahi ghuma . jaaker zara apna dimagh sahi kerwa le or ye samjhna chor de ki hum koi Pakistani hain .

      • arya pathik says

        Nadir @

        chalo tumne ek baat toh maan li ki Bharat ko musalmaano ne loota hai. Ab socho zara, jis time Muslim bharat mein aaya tab tu bhi to hindu hi tha na. toh luta toh tu bhi. par aaj khush hai ki bharat luta. koi baat nahi par Yaar meri 1 baat ka jawaab de.

        Islam mein 73 firke hain aur Hadith ke hisaab se 1 hi Jannat mein jaayega aur baaki sab jaayenge DOzakh mein.

        all sects of islam claim that they r right and other sects are wrong. This claim is in line of Islamic claim that Islam is right and other religions are wrong. Thats why in Pakistan, Iraq, Afghanistan and in all Islamic world Muslims are killing each other.

        Nasir, bahi tu toh Shia hai aur Prpohet Zakir ke hisaab se tu jaane wala hai Narak / dozakh mein.

        Yaar COMEDY ho jaayegi tere saath. ha ha ha ho ho ho

        soch yaar, teri life bhi kya tragedy hai. Agniveer par kaafir ka dimag khata hai. Asli duniya mein baaki 72 muslim firko ki gaali khata hai. Aur dozakh mein zaakar dozakh ki aag khayega.

        Soch le bhai, vedic dharmi ban ja. Vedic dharmi ban jaane se tera bhala hoga.

        Nasir dost, muslim ban jaane ke baad bhi tera “TICKET TO HEAVEN” confirmed hai ki waiting mein hai. Agar RAC ho toh bhi kaam chala lena. Lekin yaar, Islam mein CONFUSION / GOLMAAL BAHUT HAI.

        SAMJHE JANAAB. ab poori jindagi pata karo ki kaun sa MUSLIM FIRKA Jannat mein jaayega aur usi mein chale jao. SHIA nahi jaane waale aisa zakir naik bhi kehta hai. ha ha ha ha

  22. original siva says

    aur america ki ladies kiss karke salary draw karti hain aur bandukdhari bomb dhari (self proclaimed allah ke khas mardon ki) aise watt lagya haiki sare mulim countries ki watt laga di .
    kutton ki tarah pakkad pakkad ke mara mmullah mardon ko tub mardangi kahan jati hai

    bechare kamzor aurton pe zulm karne ki aukad rakhte ho

    qurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnn ne shayan bataya nahi akalllllllllllllllllllllll badi ya bhainssssssssssssssss

  23. original siva says

    @nadir
    israel aur america jinki gents populatin itni kum hai

    unki ladies ki takat ko smajh .dono countries ne sarreeeeeeee mullon mardon ki watt laga di.

    sharam ke mare isiliye shayad mullah apni penis katwa leta hai.allah ko yeh sub pehele se malum tha (ohe mehfuz) ka concept

    mere liye to allah aur ishwar ek hai,subse pak aur nek hai par main allah ke cia agent paigambar ko nahi manta

    • original siva says

      for nadirrrrrrrrr jaise musalman

      ladies ==========sexxx machine. dub maron musalmano nadir jaise log hi musalman logon ke charitra ko kharab karten hain

      • Nadir Husain says

        For orignal Siva…..
        mens ============= Napunsak mard.
        Haaan sach me bahot sharam aati hai siva jub kisssi hindu ki behen ya beti ko apne boss ke sath compomise kerte huyyye dekhte hain . tujhe sharam nahi aaye gi kyunki tere baaap ne to khud teri maaa se dowry leke shadi ki thi. jub tu khud aysi family se belong kerta hai to kaise aayegi sharam .

        • Truth Seeker says

          @Nadir Husain

          Ha bhai mujhe bhi bahut shrm aati hai jab me padhta hun ki Mohamad ji ne Arab ke kabilo ke logo ko maar diya aur unki aurto ke sath balatkar kiya. Kaya kare Mohmad ji aese hi the.

          • arya pathik says

            Truth Seeker @

            Mohammedd bechaare karte bhi toh kya ? unke paas Hadith ke hisaab se 30 mardo ki taakat thi.

            Agar Mohammed aaj ki taarikh mein jinda hote toh “VIAGRA” ki advertisement ke AKELE hi CANDIDATE hote. Baaki sabko fail kar dete.

            mohammed ji thode se THARKI the lekin kya karen wo bhi Allah ne kaha ki “O Mohammed, apne bete ki beewi se shaadi karo”.

            Karni padi, bechare mohammed ko. Socho kitna bada pathhar rakha hoga mohammed ne apne dil par, jab Zainab ka talak hua hoga uske pati se aur Mohammed ko Zainab ke saath HUM-BISTAR hona pada, Allah ke ORDER se.

            Mohammed ne jisko apni BETI maana, usi ke saath SUHAAG-RAAT mana li SIRF Allah ke ORDER SE.

            Moahmmed ne toh bada hi TYAG / SACRIFICE kiya hai bhai, ZAINAB ke saath HUM-BISTAR hokar.

            Nasir Bhai, tum bura mat maano, ye HINDU / VEDIC log nahi samajh sakte hi apni BETI JAISI ladki ke saath HUM-BISTAR hone ke liye kitna bada JIGAR chahiye jo sirf Mohammed ke paas tha.

            Nasir Bhai, main samajh sakta hoon Mohammed ki kurbaani sirf Allah ki baat se Mohammed ne Apni Beti jaisi ladki se shaadi kar li.

            Nasir Bhai, hindu/ Vedic logo mein itna badi KRUBAANI karne waali paida hi nahi hue isiliye inhe MAAF kar dena PLEASE.

            Main inki taraf se maafi maangata hoon ki ye Moahmmed ka dard nahi samajh paaye.

        • raj.hyd says

          param adarniy shri nadir ji , kabhi muhammad ji ki tarah aapne kabhi kisi naukrani ka ,[ dasi ka] apni kathit bahu ka , poti saman kisi aysha jaisi ka , ya kaba ka bosa lene ka avsar mila hai ki nahi ? shayad” jannat” isse apko mil jaye ? vaise muhammd ji ne yahi kaha tha ki muslmo ke 73 firke honge usme se” keval ” ek hi firka” jannat” me jayega ! us firke ka nam bhi muhammad ji ko batlane ki” himmat ” nahi padi , kuran me bhi uska kahi jikar nahi milta ! ab ham apko kaise batlaye ki us firke me aap honge ya nahi 1 ab aap to hamse jyada islam ke jankar honge ? aapko to is ka sabhi kuch maloom hoga! aap bahut jaldi jannat pahunche uske liye hardik shubh kamnaye !

          • Nadir Husain says

            Param Adarniy shri Raj ……….
            aaapne mohammad ji ( Shri Krishan or Shri Ram ) ka character bahot accha difine kiya hai . ye character aapne zarur Ramayan ya Gita me hi padha hoga . jaisa ki aap kehte hain ki aapke kathit mohammad Shri Ram or Krishan ka ye character aapko Quran me nahi padhne ko mila . shayad apne paighambar Shri raam ka character dekhne ke baad hi aap ne ab Vedo me apna muh chupane ki soochi hai. lekin vedo ko likhne wale bhi to rishi muni ka character dheela tha …. ek menka ko dekh ker laar tapak aayi thi na vishwa mitr ki … wahi Vishwa mitr naa ko Ram ke Gura the ….. jaisa Gura waisa Chela ….. or to or krishna ka character dheela .

          • raj.hyd says

            param adarniy shri nadir ji kya bat kahi aapne?” jaisa guru vaisa chela ? ” lekin yah bhi samajhiye bhartiy sabhyta me guru ki bat , ya pita ki bat ko , ya mata ki bat ko “ap logo ki taraha ankhmichkar ” nahi mana jata ? in sab ki achhi bat mani jati hai buri bat nahi ! vaise to dashrath ji ne bhi 3 vivah kiye the ! lekin ram ji ne unka adarsh bhi nahi mana ! guru ji ki bat to bahut door ki hai 1 bhartiy sabhyta, muslimo ki tarah nah hai ki muhammad ji ne agar sangeasvad ko chuma to sabhi muslim bhi muhammad ji ke karan usko chumenge ! bhale hi usme koi visheshta n ho choom kar bhi “koi anand ” nahi milta sivay” bhediya dhasan “ke ! vaise isme koi shak nahi hai 99.99 % muslim ashike rasool ka dam bhar kar bhi koi muslaman [apvad chod kar ] 50 sal ki umr me pahunch kar bhi kisi 6-7 sal ki umr ki aysha ji ki tarah nikah nahi karta 1 kai karod muslim apni santano ki raksha kar lete hai jo muhammad ji nahi kar paye ! fir bhi allah ke rasool hone ka dava karte firte hai ! unse to kafir kahe jane vale bhi achhe hai ! vaise nadir ji bich- bich me kahan chale jate hai ! tab bhi hamare uttar nahi de pate hai fir kyomuslim bane rahate hai jara himmat se kaam kijiye, chodiye is jhuthe islam ko?

        • Prtboy says

          Sati- never in india Sati was so popular than during later mughal and british raj.
          Aburuni when came to india never saw any widow being burn,neither greeks nor chinese travellors or ambasdors.
          In south it was never practised though they were and are most orthodox(In terms of religion)
          Dowry- The girl was given money and property acording her share with other siblings.If Parents died Before marriage she was also equal heir of property PS the property of Her mother which she got from her family only belong to girls.

          Some may say the dowry was gift no they can give gift but dowry was girls share in her family which was not shared by his husband nor son but goes to doughter.
          Also if Father died then married girl will not get money she has been given her share as dowry and unmarried will get.
          So make it clear that social stigma grows in un educated society and with poverty not with religion

  24. original siva says

    @ MUSLIMS WHO CAN JUST READ THE FILTHY COMMENTS ON LADIES BY UR MAWALI BHAI NADIR

    tumahara allah ka cia agent mujhe jannat main grapes ,impoted scotch, wisky,wine pilati hui virgins with tommy highglifer clothes and jacuuzii sauna bath dega .par fir bhi main ialsm ko nahi apnata aur ek biwi aur moksha k mrg par chalne ka pryatna kartan hun. batah nadir ki kya tere hisab se characterless hun .waise jannat main kausna brand milta hai.kaunsa airlines chalta hai(AL BURAQ) DONKEY AIRLINES KI SERVICES KAISE HAI

    tuhe mujra karti hui virgins milegi (lal tapak raha nadir tere muh se) unlimited tax free wine aur roasted chicken milegi tera paigambar dileaga tujhe par ekdharti ki nari jo kiss kare toh tujhe bura lagta hai

    sub masalmano ko namaz ke saath yeh gana allah ke liye gana chahiye

    MAIN KAROON TO SALA CHARACTER DHILA HAI. PAIGAMBAR KA MAILK ZARUR IS DUA KO KABUL KAREGA

    • Nadir Husain says

      @Orignal Siva…..
      Tu Allah ko CIA agent kehte huye bhoool gaya ki tera wo swarg ka raja Indra shayad sandaas me baitha hai. Jannat me Grapes, inported scotch or wisky ki baat kerke ayse chauk raha hai jaise tune apne dharam grantho me ye sub suna hi nahi . or sune ga kaise nange aadmi …….. tere maa baap ne kabhi apne dharam granth nahi padhe to wo tujhe kya batayenge ………
      ab kaaam khol ke sunnnnn ……… jissse tu CIA ka agent keh raha hai naa tere Indra Bhagwan usssi ka Naukar hai or jisssee tu or tere nange dharamwae Swarg kehte hian wahi JANNAT hai .

      jaa ker pooch kisssi se ki Menka kaon hai or kahan rehti hai. tere vedo ko lekhne wala Vishwamitr isssi menka ko dekh ker pagal ho gaya tha or ayse Ved likhe ki unko padhne wala ab koi nahi :-)

      • SDC says

        Nadir, shayad tune aapne dharm granth ko sahi se nahi pada. Menka toh yaad hai, lekin muhammad ka Aisha, Safiyyah, ko rape karna bhul gaya.

        • Nadir Husain says

          @SDC
          Bhai ………. Aisha, Safiyyah ke naaam aaapko yaaad rahe hai lekin isme aaap ne apni mummy or sister ke naaam nahi add kiye hain. isss baar to shayad aap bhool gaye lekin agli baar zarur add kijye ga . shayad baar baar rape ka zikr kerke aapko apni mummy or sister ki aad aati hogi . chaliye next time hum bhi aapki help kerenge aapko apki mummy or sister ki yaad dilane me .

          • SDC says

            Waise hume aapne mummy aur sister se jyada aapke mummy or sister jyada yaad aate hain rape ke baare mein soch kar. Aap meri isme jarur madad karna.

      • raj.hyd says

        param adarniy shri nadir ji apko bhul ho gai hai vishvamitr ji ne kabhi bhi ved likhne ka dava nahi kiya agar apne kahi padha ho to usaka sndarbh jarur dijiyega , jisse ham unko bhi ved ka “jankar” to man hi lenge ? vishva mitr ji ahamare adarsh nahi hai ! fir ham kisi ke bhi” andhe ” anuyayi nhi bante jaisa ki ap logon ko muhammad ji ka banan apadta hai ! jannat ya svarg nam ki koi chij abhi bani hi nahi hai tab indr ho ya koi aur uski bhi bat galat ho jati hai ! apke kisi musalman ne koi khoj jannat ki ho to vah bhi jarur batlaiyega ! jisse adhunik khoj karta bh unko kuch inam adi de sake ! jaise “nobul puraskar “adi ? nadir ji jab aap ya apke bade bhai ya apke pita ji adi muhammad ji ko apna adarsh mante huye kabhi jab 50 sal ke ho jaye tab kisi 6-7 sal ki poti saman kisi kanya se nikah kare ? tab hamko bhi samachar patr ke madhyam se avashy amantrit kijiyega jisse ham sab aplogon ko “shubh kamnaye ” de sake ! zainab ji , mariya kabti ji jaisa “avaidh sambandh bana e ho tab bhi kisi rashtriy samachar patr ke madhyam se ham sabhi aam janta ko avshy batlaiyega , jisse us “mahan “karykram ki safalta hetu , ham sab “shubh kamna ” de sake koi uphar to ham nahi de sakenge , uske ham tahe dil se kshama yachna bhi karenge kyo ki ham to dhan se kafi nirdhan hai ! jab dhanvan ban jayenge tab uske liye bhi vichar kar sakte hai !

        • Nadir Husain says

          @Raj.Hyd
          jin 50 saal ki aurat ki aaap baat ker rahe hian raj kahin wo aapki hi to maata nahi hain. waise agar koi vakti apni umar se badi aurat se shadi kerta hai to isme burayi kya hai ye meri samjh me nahi aati . or poti saman jiss ladki ka zikr aapne kiya hai waisa to kahin huwa hi nahi . shayad aaapko mohammad ji se personal kuch kheeej ho gayi hai ya phir aapne apni mangadhant kuran likh li hai kyunki aaap log to ishwar ki kitabo ko maante nahi hai apne hi aadhe nange rishi muniyo ko bhagwan se zyada akalmand maante hain .

          Mohammad ji hamare adarsh the or hamesha rahe ge ……. 50 saal ki aurat se shadi kerna koi buri baat nahi hai ….. albattta kahin wo aapki mata na ho.

          Isssi prakaar isss baat per to shuker bhejiye ki mohammad sahab ne kissi poti saman ladki se koi avaidh sambandh nahi banaye werna aaapki poti musibat me pad jaati . ab kitne avaidh sambandh banaye ja chuke hote usse kuch isska bhi andaza hai aapko .

          jaayiye pehle apne vicharo or ho sake to apni maata or poti ko shudh kijye phir kissi per baat kerne ka sahas kijye ga .
          or agar ab bhi aapko apni poti ke kisssi se avaidh sambandh banane ki iccha hai to hum samachar patr ke madham se aapko aamantirt kare….????

          • raj.hyd says

            mahamahim uprasool shri nadir ji ! agar mata saman 50 sal nahi 40 sal ki khudiza ji se nikah karna achha hai to ap ya apke pita ji ya any muslim aisa kyo nahi karte ? kya aysha ji ki umr poti saman nahi thi yani fatima ji badi unki mata ji behad choti kya yah ajib nah lagta ?ashikane rasool hone ka dam muslim bhara karte hai kyo nahi 50 sal ke hokar aysha ji saman umr ki kisi kanya se nikah kar lete ?kya zaid ki patni zainab ji se nikah muhammad ji ne kiya tha? kya unse sex nahi kiya? kya koi allah kisi ka nikah karvata firta hai ? kya dasi mariya kabti se muhammad ji ne sex nahi kiya tha? kya usse bhi nikah kiya tha ? kya usse bachha paida nahi kiya tha ? fir bhi allah ke rasul ban kar bhi uska dava karke bhi apne kisi bhi bachhe ko bacha nahi paye 1 kitna pyartha allah ka muhammad ji par yani bachhe diye bad me chhin liye ! itna dukh muhammad ji ko kyo mila ? keval fatima ji hi jivit raha pai , vah bhi 27 sal ki bhari javani me muhammad ji ke marne ke kuch mah bad hi vah bhi allah ko pyari ho gai ? yah muhammad ji ke parivar ka hal kitna dukh jhela apke muhammad ji ne ? yah the unke “achhe karnamo “ka ishvar ka dand ! jisko aap andh shradhha ke karan nahi dekh pate hai !kai karod muslim va kafir kahe jane vale bhi muhammad ji se jyada sukhi the aur hai v unki umr bhi unse bahut jyada ishwar ne di hai / aisa kyo rasool ko manne valo ki umr jyada lekin rasool ki umr kam yah bhed bhav allah ji ne kyo kiya ? kyoki vah asli rasool kahan the ? bimari se pidit hokar unko marna pada ! apni bimari bhi thik nahi kar paye koi dua bhi allah kabool nahi kar sake b as jivan sex ka anand jarur jyada liya unse to kai guna achhe bhartiy muslim hai ! arbi muslimo ka haal ham jyada nahi jante ! isliye ham kahate hai har bat ki janch kijiye tabhi koi bat mani jani chahiye kisi vyakti ki, kitab ki gulam kyo bana jaye ? vah chahe ved ho ya quran ya any koi kitab ya koi vyakti , sabhi ki, sabhi bat kyo mani jaye jo tarkik ho , saty ho vah bat jarur mani jaye! vah chahe muhammad ji ho ya quran ki hi bat kyo n ho !

          • Nadir Husain says

            Raj.hyd
            aaapne bade dino baad reply diya lekin wahi ghisa pita sa hi diya . lagta hai aap samjh ker bhi nahi samjhna chahte or baar baaar 50 saaal ki Khatija ji ka zikr kerte hain ki mohammad ji ne unse shadi ki to koi muslim 50 saal ki aurat se shadi kyunn nahi kerta ….. ??? iske do jawab ho sakte hain

            1.) aaapki mata ki umar kitni hai or kya wo abhi shadi shuda hain….??? i mean aapke father abhi zinda hai kya agar nahi to beshak hum kisssi muslim se keh denge jo unse shadi kerne ko tayyar ho jayenga .

            2.) Maryada purshottam jo ki aapke kahe anusar ek Bhagwan na ho ker ek tuccha prani the unhone jub Sita ko bina kissi valid reason gher se nikal diya to ayse tucch prani ki murti laga ker kyuuun bhagwan maante hain aap log .
            meine aapko Islam per bak bak kerte to bahot dekha lekin kabhi usss tucchhh Ram ki kirya kalapo per prakash nahi dalte aap.
            chota reply kijye ga bina bak bak kiya to kaafi suvidha hogi hume bhi aapko chota reply dene me .

        • Nadir Husain says

          Raj.hyd
          aaapke aadarsh Ram nahi hai , Krishna nahi hain, Laxman nahi hain…. Vishvamitr bhi nahi hain……… aaapka adarsh koi hai bhi ya ayse hi ved ved kehte rehte hain . ab to Vivekanand hi bache hain ya chahe to aap swayam apna naam bhi le sakte hain.
          ved kissi rishi muni ne hi to likhi hai ya nahi or vishwa mitr bhi ek rishi hi tha . to kya zaruri nahi hai ki ussi ne hi ved likhe ho . ek character less aadmi ke likhe huye kitabe to aap padhte hian .
          aaapke dewta Indra ne bhi ek rishi ka hi bhes badal ker us rishi ki biwi se sex kiya tha or us aurat ka pati bhi rishi hi tha jisne apni hi patni ho sharaap de diya tha . to ayse logo ki likhi huyiii kitab ko kaise padhle .
          pehle ja ker ye tay ker lijye ki aaap actuly me kissko follow ker rahe hian . follow bhi ker rahe hain ya sirf Islam ke against me baate kerne aate hain.

      • says

        kahan se sun aaye ho ved vishwamitra ne likhe hai???

        anpadta ko madarso tak hi rakhiye…. bahar ki duniya mein pehle ek baar jankari lo phir bolo!!

        • Nadir Husain says

          @Krishna Arya …
          Vishwamitr ka naam se bade naraz ho gaye tum to ….. usssi vishwa mitr ke khandan se ho kya ….???
          agar ved vishwamitr ne nahi likhe or humne galt kaha to ye bata do ki ved kissne likhe …..

          agar madarso me anpadta hai to mandiro me adhnangi aurato ke bhajan kirtan se kya apna gyan badhate ho….???

          • SDC says

            Waise madarso mein toh pornography padate bhi hain (quran) jisme jism ki bhok ko mitane ke upai bataya jate hain. Aapki bhok toh mit hi gayi hogi aab tak.

  25. zulfiquar haider says

    Aaplogon ka yeh site agar Vedas ko promote karne k liye hai toh aaplogon ko chahiye ki Vedas ki achchi baton ko batayein naa k doosre dharmon ko bura kahein. Aisa karne se log aapko ya aapke dharm ko galat samjheinge. Doosron per kichar uchal dene se khud insaan achcha nahi ho jata hai.

    • Charvak_pathik says

      Asliyat saamne aayi toh bardaasht nahun ho paa rahi hai naa??

      Sorry, buster, it is the Quran and the Bible which tell that all other paths are nothing but pathwyas to the Devil, not the Vedas!! This is the major difference between the Abrahamic and the Dharmic religions; Dharmic religions are based on soul-searching and introspection rather than blind belief in personality-cults and I know that u cant stand this particular fact, bcos THE ROD OF TRUTH REALLY HURTS LIKE HELL WHE GOES IT UP YOUR……Well, you get the idea!!

      And, all that Agniveer is doing is show the truth rather than malign those religions. In no single article has he abused any of these religions, even though the scriptures of those religions do that to the non-believers. PEACE, brodda!!

      • Nadir Husain says

        @Charvak Pathik…..
        U r rite pathik…….. Both Agniveer n BABA RAM dev r doing gud job for u all hinduzzz.
        tumhare naye Bhagwan sri BABA RAM dev ki to congress ne pungi baja di hai. tubhi aurto ki saari pehen ker bhage the. Ab AGNIVEER jaldi hi ek naya VED likhe ge……
        ANNA kare to satya grah, or Ram dev to character dheela hai .
        one more thing……. for existance of any religion there must be a GOD or creater but according to u n all those nange baba who written VEDss have not found a single GOD to worship . either u find no GOD or found thousands of GOD .

        • SDC says

          Nadir, hume to apno ne luta Gairon mein kahan dum tha. Yahi story rahi hai hindustan ki nahi toh kya majal thi muslimano ko bharat per raj karne ki. Sikandar mahan ko sirf punjab ke raja porus ne rok diya tha, lekin Ambhi ki gaddari ne desh to duboya tha. Thik use prakar raja jaichand ki gaddari ne us harami ghori ko jeet dila di. Lekin hum tumhare tarah nahi hai jinke bhagwan ko kutto (osama) ki tarah american fauj pakistan me mar girati hain.

          Aur haan, hamare paramatma ek hi hain, us ek paramatma ke anek swaroop hai. Tumhare rapist or murderer paigamber se behter philosophy hamari hi hai.

        • arya pathik says

          My Dear Mr. Nasir,

          not only Baba Ramdev but Mr. Mohammed was also beaten and abused badly byvhis enemies. Because of which he had to migrate to MECCA.

          toh shriman Nadir Bhai, ek time par Mohammed ki bhi PUNGI baji thi aur wo bhi jaan bachakar bhag gaya tha. Badi mushkil se bechara bhag paaya tha. ye toh time time ki baat hai. toh isme toh aap koiargument nahi kar sakte, lekin marji aapki hai.

          Baaki aap Islamic Scholar hain toh islam ki history aap jaante hi hain ki kitni baar Mohammed ki kapde tak phaad diye Kaafir ne.

          Baaki aapki marzi, Bahi Nasir, hamari baat maano ya na maano

    • raj.hyd says

      manniy zujfiquar ji , is site me ved ki bhi bat rakhi jati hai sath jahan gandgi hai uska bhi dhyan dilaya jata hai ! hame to apki bat par hi ashchary ho raha hai? kya qurqn me tatha kathit kafiron ki ninda nahi ki gai ? kya unki hatya karne tak ki bat nahi kai gai? kya apka haj kathit manniy shri iblees ji ke banaye gaye stambh par bagair “kankar ” mare huye haj pura ho pata hai ? fir chahe bhagdad ke dauran anek muslimo ki jan tak kyo n chali jaye ? kya muslimo me kankar marte huye “krodh ” nahi jagta ? kya shanti purvak kankar mare jate hai ? kya janvaro ki hatya nahi kin jati ? kya yah” khun khraba” nah ihai ? kya ap hamko is vishay par kuch uttar denge ?

      • Nadir Husain says

        @Raj ………
        aaapne zulfiquar ko bahot si tatha kathit islami buraiyo ko batane ki bharsak koshish ki or is bharsak koshish me aaap bahot si baate bhool gaye.. ofsoos agar aaapke dharam me aap ke bhagwan se apni hi patni ko ek nauker ke saath dekh ker gher se bahar nikal diya to aaapne ussse bhagwan maane se hi inkaar ker diya or ab aap RAMAYAN ko chor ker VEDazz ko pujne lage.
        kisssi ko pooja kerne ki aaap hindu ki itni buri aadat ho gayi hai ki BABA ram dev jaise pakhandi insaan jissne khud itna kaaala dhan jama ker rakkha hai ussko bhagwan ki terhaan poojne lage.
        kya aaap apne us bhagwan ka naaam hume yaad dilana chahe ge jissne aapke hi ki rishi ki bibi ko roop badal ker SEX kiya tha . or us bewakoof rishi ko dekhiye ki ussne us tatha kathit bhagwan ko chor ker apni hi patni ko pattar bana diya , or aap hinduon ki akala ka kya kehna ki ayse hi rishi muniyo ki likhi huyiii kitabo ko ab apni dharam book banwane ki koshish ker rahe hian lekin aysa hoga nahi kyunki aap logo me ab wahi adat ban chuki hai ki jissko bhi pasand karo ussko bhagwan bana lo.
        meri to aaapko yehi salah hai ki zulfikar ko choriye or apne hinduon bhaiyoo ko hi samjhayiye ……. Quran or Bible ko bura bata ker aap VED ko accha nahi banwa sakte kyunki ye sub jaante hain ki vedo ko unhi rishi muniyo or RAm dev jaise baba ne likha hai.

        • raj.hyd says

          param adarniy shri nadir ji , agar aapko hamari bat ka bura laga hai to vahi kaam aap bhi kar rahe hai lekin bagair sandarbh ke ? kya jisko aap bhagvan kah denge usi ko ham bhi bhagvan kah de ? yah koi jaruri nahi hai 1 apko chahye tha jo hamne kuran ki islam ki muhammad ji adi ki apke hisab se burai ki hai uske vishay me agar vah saty nahi to uska javab dete vah to ap de nahi paye ! kyoki aap ke pas javab nahi tha / isliye sabse achhi bat yahi rahegi pyar se islam ko hi chod dijiye ! tab aap sab ka bhi bhala ho jayega ! kisi kathit rishi muni baba adi kya kya karm- kukarm kiye / vah ahamare asdarsh nahi haia vaise aap bhi muhammad ji apna adarsh mat maniye kuran ko bhi mat maniye tab ham aap logon ko kuch bhi nahi kaha payenge 1 jab aap log galat bat ka paksh lenge tab aap svayam apne par arop lagane ke liye protsahit karte hai ! apna to ek hi siddhant hai bure ko bura kaho achhe ko achha ? jab ham kisi ki , burai batlate hai to hamara yahi uddeshy hota hai ki ane vali pidhi us burai se dur hone ki koshish kare / isme aapko kya takleef hoti hai ! aap ki kuran bhi to apne hisab se suara ka mans nahi khane ko kahati hai , kuch karan hoga tabhi to yah sikh deti hai ! mans khane se kuch had tak rokne ki koshish karti hai ! kuch janvaro ki hatya karne se bachati hai ! baba ramdev ji ne agar “apatkal ” mahila ke kapde pahan kar jaan bacha li to apko kya takleef ho gai ? kya muhammad ji ne makka seb”hagte samay “gare hira ke ek gaddhe me chip kar” makdi ke jal” ki aad me apni jaan nahi bachai thi ? kya makdi ka jaal jyada achha hai lekin kisi “bahan” ke[ mahila ke] kapde kharab ho gaye ? kya “apatkal”me jaan bachane ke liiye suar [pig] ka mans khana[ halal ] nahi hai / fir baba ramdev ji ki ninda kyo ? baba ramdev ji ko janta ne apar dhan kaam karne hetu dan me diya hai ? unka koi dhan in netao ki tarah ghapla ya bhrashtachar ke karan nahi hai uska hisab bhi baba ramdev ji ne intarnet me dal rakha hai !

          • Nadir Husain says

            Adarniye Raj ………….. aapke iss statement ko padh ker padi prasannata huiii lekin . “baba ramdev ji ne agar “apatkal ” mahila ke kapde pahan kar jaan bacha li to apko kya takleef ho gai ? kya muhammad ji ne makka seb”hagte samay “gare hira ke ek gaddhe me chip kar” makdi ke jal” ki aad me apni jaan nahi bachai thi ? kya makdi ka jaal jyada achha hai lekin kisi “bahan” ke[ mahila ke] kapde kharab ho gaye”

            isss statment me jo gadhe ka varnan kiya usper aaapne kuch zyda vichar mimarsh kiya …… thoda sa kahani me twist hai jisss Gadhe ke peeche muhammad ji ne chup ker apni jaan bachayi thi wo Gadha …….. gadha nahi tha wo to aaapke param poojniy Ram ji the jo awtaar badal ker aaye the . aaapke yahan to bhagwan choti badi baat per awtaar le lete hain. bade achraj ki baat hai aapke Vedo padhte samay ye jaankari padhna kaise bhool gaye .
            aasha kerta hu aap aage se sahi jaankari in Ved prashansako ko denge .

        • arya pathik says

          param pujay shri 1008 nadir ji ,

          aapne shayad Mohammed aur Aisha waali kahani nahi padhi.

          Jab Mohammed ko shaq hua tha ki Aisha kahi kisi ke saath sex toh nahi kar aayi thi.
          mohammed kaafi dino tak pareshaan tha aur Asiaha ke saath sex na karke usse saza di thi.

          Nasir Ji, phir Allah se dekha na gaya ki Mohammed ki Aisha bina sex ke reh gayi aur Allah se sapne mein aakr bata diya mohammed ko “O mohammed, Aisha ke saath kisis ne sex nahi kiya hai. wo toh 9 saal ki chhoti si bacchi hai.”

          Tab jaakar Mohammed ne bechari Aisha ko wapas liya.

          Nasir ji, aap batao ki Allah ke Paigambar ko kya pata nahi tha ki AISHA ne kisi ke saath sex nahi kiya tha ?

          ye toh haad akr di bhai Mohammed ne.

          Islamic Allah ko bho koi maak kaaz nahi hai, mujhe aisa lagta hai. Bilkool hi khali hai. jab bhi Mohammed ne bulaya , aa gaya.

          Lekin Allah moody type ka hai kyonki;

          1. jab mohammed ka beta mar gaya tab nahi aaya.

          2. Jab Mohammed bimar hokar mar gaya tab bhi nahi aaya.

          3. mohammed ke pote ALI ki PUNGI baja di uske dushmano ne, tab bhi nahi aaya.

          4. Aisha ko Muyava ne maar daal, tab bhi nahi aaya.

          5. Mohammed ke inteqal ke baad toh jaise Allah muslamano bhool hi gaya, kabhi aay hi nahi.

          Shri Nasir ji Bhai, aap try kyon nhai karte, aalah ko bulane ki. shayad aap ki baat sun le, Allah Miya.

      • SDC says

        Waise izzat lutne wale aur qatl karne wale ki kitab toh sahi hi hogi, hain na Nadir ji. Wakai, aapki tark ki koi kat nahi ho sakti hai.

  26. yagya yadav says

    agniveer ji main aap ki banto se bhaut jayada prabhavit huna hun itni sari jankari dene ka dhanyabaad.
    from yagya yadav

  27. Prashant says

    Hindus should concentrate on reforming hinduism n so should muslims.i beleive ishwar n allah are one.if anyone objects,he needs to raise his level of intelct.how many muslims n how many hindus are with me.everyone knows the answer.1400 yrs ke islam par aapka itna fakr hi we hindus deserve the same as it is the oldest than any other religion.we are not against islam,we are fedup with those who practice terrism in the name of islam and hindu sites are coming up due to the impotency of good muslims(ishwar,allah is one)they don condemn them.

    • shravak says

      Agree brother, but the thing is you can’t change the quran. Muhammad said that he has perfected his religion (Q. 5:3). How can you improve something, which is perfect?

    • Nadir Husain says

      @brother Prashan.
      koi muslim ya vakti isss baat se sehmat hai ki Hindu dharam bahot hi rich dharam hai ya kabhi tha . lekin kuch logo ne uski surat bigad di apne faide ke liye . brother aaap isss site per kiye gaye kissi bhi comment ko personal mat lijiye .
      ye site to param adarniye Shri Agniveer ji ne issi liye banayi hai ki log ek doosre ke dharam per kichad uchale , ek doosre ke dharmo ke maha pursho ko galiyaan de.
      ye site to bus ek platform hai ek doosro ko galiyaan dene ka .

      agar aaap iss site ko dhayan se padhe to saare article me dekhenge …….. saare article ki start hogi hai hindu dharm se ho end hota hai doosre dharam per kichad uchalne se . ZARA DHAYAN se inke article ko padhiye .
      jaisa ki aapne kaha ki GOD is one to sahi baat hai hum aapke sath hai . hamesha saath me hain.

      • raj.hyd says

        param adarniy shri nadir ji , apko isme kya takleef hai ? uska bhi samadhan kiya ja sakta hai jab ap jaise muslim muhammad ji ko hi sab kuch manege, agar unhone sange asvad ko chuma to sabhi muslim usko chumenge ! batlaiye quran ki kaun si ayat hai jisme sangeasvad ko chumne ko kaha gaya hai ? agar rishi muni adi ne ya ram ji ne koi galat kary kiya hai to kya sabhi hinduo ko bhi aisa hi karna chahiye ? ram ji ne siita ji ko choda aj kya bahusankhyak hindu apni patni ko tyagte hai ? shayd nahi ! aap kya kahenge bahut jyada ? isliye achhe manushyo se bhi galti ho sakti hai usko badhava kyo diya jaye ? kisi ka bhi galat acharan kyo svikara jaye / uske galat kary ki ninda kyo n ki jaye ? use aap gali bhale hi n de lekin ninda kiye bagair mat chode ?shalinta ka upyog kar lijiye ? usme koi harj nahi hai ! jab koi kahe ki ram ji ne, krishn ji ne sab kuch achhe kary kiye tab matbhed avshy utpann honge ? ham svayam usme kuch matbhed dhunge ? usko sabke samne layenge ! vaisa hi hal isa ji ka bhi hoga unki mataji mariyam ji ka jinhe kaha jata hai ki unhone isa ji ko kunvare me janm de diya ? tab us par prash kyo n uthaye jaye ? vaise muhammad ji ke agalat acharan par prashn kyo n uthaye jaye ? vaise muhammad ji kuch achhe kary bhi kiye hai jaise kisi gulam zaid ko apna put manna usko putr jaisa pyar dena , samaj me uski svikriti dilvana, bad me us zaid ji ka nikah apani kshamata ke anusar sabse khubsurat kanya zainab ji se karvana , lekin bad me talak jaise buri chij par “chup ” rahana 1 jab zaid ji ne zainab ji ko talak dene ka man banaya tab muhammad ji ne us ” sabse buri chij ” ko karne se kyo nahi roka ? us zainab ji se kyo “ched khani ” ki fir us zainab ji se bagair nikah ke sex kyo kiya ? jab zainab ji us par apatti ki to yah kahana ki allah minya ne hamara tumhara nikah kar diya ? kya khuda ji kisi ka nikah karvate rahate hai ? kya allah ne kisi aur ka bhi nikah karvaya ? fir us par prash kyo n kiye jaye ? ham yah bhi mante hai ki is sansar meaisa koi bhi manushy nahi hai jisne jyada umr pai ho usse koi galti…

      • arya pathik says

        param adarniy shri 1008 nadir ji ,

        Quran ke pehle shura se Kaafir ko Allah apne “sole agent” Mohammed se gaali dilata hai aur aakhiri shura tak gaali hi deta rehta hai.

        Nafrat kisme jyada hui.

        Agniiveer toh 1 baar bhi nahi kaha ki Muslimns kaafir hain aur unhe maar do, jala do, kjaat do etc etc.

        Shri Shri shri 1008 nadir ji, aap jab hindu dharam ki baat karte hain toh kya aapko quran ki wo aayat yaad nahi aati jahan par likha hai ki kaafir ko maar do ?

  28. original siva says

    @ nadir
    yeh nadir desi daru chadake aya hai. maine facts ke upar stress diya hai aur yeh apni kahani bata raha hai.tune kaha ki tera naya paigambar zinda hai aur mera bhagwan sai baba mar gaya.mere sai baba ko bhagwan manne se koi pap nahi hoga par tere quack doctor zakir naik ko prophet manne se tujjjjjjjjjjjheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee pata hai tune kitna bada paaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaapppppppppppppp kiya hai. allah hell main tera tandorii banake khayega.affffffffsooooooooossssssss yeh tune kya kiya.

    tune ek jagah bhi apne relegion ko defend nahi kiya aur na hi kar sakta hai .vyarth ki batin karta hai

    vedas kub likha gaya aur bechara ramdev kub aya kya connection hai in dono main

    hindu dharam satya ko aage rakhta hai valmiki ke bare main jhooth to nahi bola…..

    RAM ke prabhav se OSAMA bin laden, dawood,gaddafi, hafeezzz saeed , chota shakeel bhi sant ban sakte hain, sudhar sakte hain aur param shanth ,mahan gyani tapasvi bhi ban sakte hain jaise rishi valmiki ka parivartan hua.unhone ram nahi mara mara bola aur ram ram ko prapt kiya isiliye tere aur tere terrorist bhiyon ko iski zarurat hai

    • Nadir Husain says

      @Orignal Shiva ………. Agar RAm itne hi improtant the Hindu dharam me to Vedo me unka zikr kyuun nahi hai . kya kisssi ved me ram ke baaare me bataya gaya hai….??? pehle ja ke pata to ker tujhe maana kya hai ram ko ya ved ko phir jaake pata hai ki krishan ko ya ved ko tujhe maane ke liye itne bhagwan hain ki teri zindagi guzar jayegi or tu yehi nahi jaan payega ki tujhe maannna kya hai ram ko ya ved ko .

      • Truth Seeker says

        @Nadir Husain /Shiva Dono ke liye

        सनातन धर्म में सनातन क्या है ?
        श्री कृष्ण कि भगवत कथा श्री कृष्ण के जन्म से पहले नहीं थी अर्थात कृष्ण भक्ति सनातन नहीं है |
        श्री राम की रामायण , तथा रामचरितमानस भी श्री राम जन्म से पहले नहीं थी तो अर्थात , श्री राम भक्ति भी सनातन नहीं है |
        To know more
        http://letusthinkagain.blogspot.com/2011/08/blog-post_12.html

      • raj.hyd says

        param adarniy shri nadir ji . jab ved ke bad ram ji ka janm hua tab ram ji ka ya krishn ji nam kaise aa payega ? kya quran ane ke samay hajarat ali ji umar ji , usman ji, abubakar ji husain ji , hasan ji ,fatima ji ,khudeeja ji aysha ji aadi us samay majud hote huye bhi unka nam nahi aa pya ? athva kya aapka nam quran me ho sakta hai ? yah nam kyo nahi hai ? isliye bekar ke prashn ka koi labh nahi hai ! gyanvardhak prashn khub kijiye sath me hamare prashno ka javab bhi dijiye ! jo aap nahi karte !

      • raj.hyd says

        param adarniy shri nadir ji , bhartiy sabhyta me kisi vyakti ka vishesh mahatv nahi hai vyakti ko choda ja sakta hai 1 mukhy bat siddhanto ki hai ! jab ki islam me kaha jata hai ki 124 ooo nabi ,rasool adi aye unko bhi mano farishte aye unko bhi mano ! muhammad ji ko mano unki aurto ko bhi mano sahaba ko bhi mano? akhir kyo mana jaye ? isme koi balatkari hai ,koi avivahit hai koi bahut si aorte karne vale hai ,koi dakait hai , koi apni sagi ldkiyo se bachhe paida karne vale hai, koi apni patni ko bahan kahane vala hai , koi apne bachho me hi apas me sex karvane vala hai ! fir bhi itne “gande” logo ko manne ki anivaryta kyo? bap re bap… itni lambi fauj ? fir bi shirk ki” badbu ” dikhlai nahi padti? itna bada andh vishvas ? keval” jyada se jyada” ishwar ko hi kyo n mana jaye vah bhi jan kar ke , na ki man karke ?

        • Nadir Husain says

          Raj.Hyd……….
          Hme bada dukh huwa ye sun ker …. itne balatkaar huye kahin itne saare balatkaar ka result aap hi to nahi hain .
          aaapko to rape , balatkaar ayse word likhne me bada maza aaata hai ek naya word or khojiye … jaise aaapke papa or mummy ke beech jo huwa to sex tha ya balatkaar ya phir kuch or…..??? ab koi naya word le ker aayiye ga . dhayan rahe hum aapse zara bhi naraz nahi hain bus aaapki mata or pita ke relation ko acche se jannaa chahte hian .

          • arya pathik says

            Shri Shri 1008 Nadir ji@

            i have GREAT RESPECT for Hadith. iN MY VIEW every single word of Hadith is true.

            All hadith’s are TRUE AND EVERY WORD contained there is Allah’s word.

            Lets see what Mr. Bukhari thinks of Mohammed.

            “Magic was worked on Allah’s Apostle so that he used to think that he had sexual relations with his wives while he actually had not.” Aisha (Bukhari 7,71,660)

            Shri Shri 1008 Nadir ji@ u have to agree with the Hadith and u can not deny the correctness of hadith.

            Please give ur valuable comments on the above verse and do a great favour. thanx Khalifa Nasir Husain 1008 ji.

      • Prtboy says

        Ram ved me nahi par vedo ka jikra Ramayan me to hai.Ved Ram se pahle the aur prophesy jaisa kuch nahi hai ved mai.
        Nadir, aap ved ko hindu rule book na samjhe vedo me theories, hypothesis aur empirical formulas jo uss vakt prashid the wo the.Aur haan khoob kahani thi jo fact or fiction mixed thi.
        Khud astik samkhya aur poorva mimansa un kahaniyon ko 100% asli nahi manta par vedo me jo prachin aur naya knowledge hai uska prachar karta.
        ved daralsal to know ki sanskrit hai koi book nahi.
        Vedo me sirf hindu hi nahi balki Jinas(Great) ka bhi jikra hai or nir-ishvarvadi falsafe ko bhi mana hai.
        Ved khud ko contradict kar dete hai jis karan hindua ka paksh halka ho jata hai par ye samajhana hoga ki ved ek theory nahi balki kai theory hai jo ek doosre se agree kar bhi sakte hai aur nahi bhi.

        • Nadir Husain says

          @Ptrboy ……
          aaap ki vivechna bilkul sahi hai. Ved koi dharmik kitab nahi hai. unki knowledge bahot upyogi hai to unki knowledge use kerna chahiye .

      • Nadir Husain says

        @Truth Seeker …….. Nahi Is kamre me Allah nahi rehta theek se dekho ye wo kamra hai jahan rawan ne siita ka cheeer haran kiya tha .

        • raj.hyd says

          manniy nadir ji ,yani yah pahale ravan ka sthan tha bad me aplogo ne jabardsti karke chin liya aab aplog usko chumne jate hai us par garv bhi karte hai ! kaamal hai jabardasti ka ! nadir ji jab tatha kathi seeta ji ka cheer haran ho raha tha tab ap ya apke koi purkhe , ya muhammad ji athva any koi rasuul vaha hoga tabhi to aap itne vishvas se kah rahe hai ! jara us “gavah” ka nam to batla dijiye ! truth seekar ji to matr ek shanka kar rahe hai ! is madhyam se ek prashn bhi puch rahe hai koi n koi link to shayad allah ji ka is kabe se jarur hoga ! tabhi to usko aap sabhi muslim usko chumne keiye atur rahate hai ! kya fayda milta hai usko chumne se yah jarur batlaiyega !

          • Nadir Husain says

            @Raj.hyd
            Sita ji ke cheeer haran sun ker aaap to apna aapa hi kho baithe. aaap hamare vishwas ko le ker hamesha pareshan rehte hain. sang e aswat ko hum muslim chume ya na chume ……. aaap ko usse pareshani nahi honi chahiye ……. aapko kabhi yaad aata hai ki aapse kissi muslim ne poocha ki aap Hindu Shiv Ling i repeat Shiv LING ( penis of SHIVA) kyuuun chumte hain. kya humne poocha kabhi aapse ….??? arrre aaapko agar apne bhagwan ka LING chumna pasand hai tum issme kya burayi hai. aap chumiye bade shaok se chumiye .
            or rahi ker baat me faide or nuksaan ki baat to kabhi apne MAATA – PITA se poochiye ga ki aap ko paida kerne se pehle kya unhone ye soocha tha ki wo jo sex kerne ja rahe hain usse jo baccha paida hoga usse koi faida hoga ya nahi . her cheezzz me itni akal mat lagao RAJ ji ki apne hi maa baap ke liye GAALI ban jao .
            Tum bus SHIV LING Chooso

          • raj.hyd says

            mahamahim shri nadir ji , ham kabhi aapa nahi khote aapa to aapne pahale bhi khoya aur ab bh kho rahe hai 1 jahan bhi andh vishvas hota hai ham us par jarur hamla krte hai kaun sa vishvas kaun si ASTHA ?YAH SAB KYA HOTI HAI?VAH CHAHE kaba ho ya shiv ling ! ham apni patni v bacho ke alava kisi ko nahi chumte 1 aur usse anad ki anbhuti bhi lete hai ap yah batlane se dar gaye ki sange asvad ko chumne se kya fayda 1 apne kaba me sita ke chir haran ki bat rakhi kya vah saty thi ? fir aapne apni kheez mitane ki ek koshish ki 1 hamne to usi bat ko gaharai se pucha ? hamne kab aapa khoya 1 jinko gali dene me hi anand ata ho ya unka shauk ho vah beshak apna shauk pura kare ? bahut se chote star ke purush sharab pine vale adi yah sab karte hai rahat5e hai usme apko bhi shamil hona hai to bade shauk se apna nam us lisht me rakhiye !aapko shayd bhram hoga koi bhi shiv lig n chusta hai aur n chumta hai ! apne kahi padha ho ya dekha to usse parichit karvaye 1 mata pita k santan utpatti me kuch fayda dikha hoga tabhi unhone janm dene ki koshish ki hogi 1 ab apka anubhav kya hai vah bhi jarur batlaye ! bahuto ke anubhav alag bhi ho sakte hain 1

          • Nadir Husain says

            @Raj.Hyd
            Kisssi cheezzz ki pooja kerna ya ussse chumna kya unko mahatav dena nahi. Ab ye bhi keh dijye ki aaap log Shiv LING ki pooja nahi kerte nahi hi us per paani or doodh bahate hian . bade acraj ki baat hai Shiv ke poore sharer me aap logo ko unka LING hi mila dhoodh se dhone ke liye ….

            Aaapne humse poocha ki mere maa baap ne mujhe paida kerke kya faida niksaan kiya to raj . her cheezz me faida nuksaan ki baat aap nikalte hain . ye question aap apne maata pita ke liye sambhal rakhiye. Kyunki jub aapko bhagwan me aastha nahi hai to apne maa baap me kya hogi . astha kya hoti hai ye prashan aapne accha kiya …….. aapko pehle hi bata chukka hu ki kisssi ki mummy uski mummy hai ye ek fact hai lekin wahi aadmi jissko uski maata bacche ka baap batati hai ye us bacche ki AASTHA hoti hai . afsoos aaapko to kissi per aastha hi nahi hai . DNA test yaad hai naaa

  29. sachin says

    hi
    nadir phele to 7 aasman bta kha hai ,aur ab ye bta jab tum log meat khana apne dharm me batate ho to pig kya meat kyo nahi khate,pig khoo to mane bhi islam qubal kar luga

    • raj.hyd says

      are sachin ji , pig meet ki visheshta hai ?thakavat door karta hai v shareer me vajan bhi jyada karta hai, kamjor manushyo ka motapa bhi lata hai ! fir bhi koi bhi meet kyo khaya jaye ? yah to badam, chana soyabeen adi me bhi yahi gun mil sakte hai kyo jeev hatya ki jaye ? hatya to hatya hai vah chahe muslim kare ya hindu khe jane vale log, athva aur koi !

    • Nadir Husain says

      @Raj.Hyd
      Acharya Raj.Hyd lesseon accha dete ho lekin adhura …… Pig ke maans ki itni visheshta bata di lekin Sachin ko ye nahi bataya ki Pig pooty bhi khata hai or ukse maans me tape worm or bhi bahot se haanikarak worm hote hain , isliye sachin ko Pig ke maans ki visheshta na batayen ……… kahin ko pig ke maans ko khane na lage .
      Sachin tumne humse poocha tha na ki muslim pig meat kyun nahi khate to iska uttar yehi hai pig ka maans ganda hota hai issi liye muslims uska maans nahi khate .
      wasie jeev hatya sirf unka maans khane ke liye nahi hoti . Raj.Hyd zara kahabhi apne mahapurushon ki vastr per nazar dalo or dekho shiv ka vastr kya hai….jitni bhi rishi muni the woh kissski khal per baithte the . or shayad unme woh bhi rishi muni honge jinho ne Ved ki phylosophy di. bahot door jane ki zarurat nahi hai tumahri Sita maata ne Ram ko gajar muli lene ke liye nahi bheja tha hiren ka shikaar kerne ke liye bheja tha . sirf maans khane se hi jeev ki hatya nahi hoti vastr or shikaar khelne se bhi hoti hai .

      • raj.hyd says

        manniy adil ji .kya bat kahi !yah kaun si quran ki ayat hai ? padhe likhe hokar bhi achhe shabdo ka istmal nah kar pate hai ?

    • Nadir Husain says

      @Sachin Gaaali dene ka bahot shaok ho to araam se gaali de sakte ho ……. zara isss site ko padhne wale hindu bhi jaan saake ki VEdo ko promote kerne ke liye Gaaali dena kitna zaruri hai.

    • raj.hyd says

      amerika me kuran jalai gai kya isse kuch shanti mil ga ?kuran ko jalane se kaam nahi chalega kuran ki sahi jankari jab nadan muslimo ko di jayegi tab kuch sudhar ki asha ki ja sakti hai kuran ka pardafash kiye jane ki atyant avshyakta hai 1 fir uska bhari matra me prachar ki bhi avshykta hai ? tabhi muslim samaj me kuch chetna a sakti hai !

      • Nadir Husain says

        @Raj.hyd
        America me Kuran zarur jalayi gayi hai lekin wo Kuran thi jissse aap apne refferences padh ke aate hain . or musalman Quran padhte hain na ki Kuran . Raj muslims ko samjh dene se pehle aap apne logo ko samjh dijye .

        • raj.hyd says

          manniy nadir ji ,aapke hisab se jab amerika me “kuran” jalai gai hai n ki “quran ” ? fir to kisi muslim ko koi taklif bhi nahi honi chahiye thi ? fir kyo itna halla machaya gaya ? kyo usko jan se marne ki dhamki di gai ? kyo uske khoon ke pyase muslim jan ho rahe hai ?yah dohrapan kyo ? hamara kaam matr samjhana hai , vah chahe muslim samjhe ya gair muslim ! matr”Q”aur ‘k” ke antar se jyada fark nahi padhta hai, isme jyada samajhdari bhi hai ! apka vyarth ka ‘prlap” bekar sabit hoga /

  30. Bulla says

    Poet: Baba Bulleh Shah

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTxZy32Fv_0&feature=related

    Na maen momin vich maseet aan
    Na maen vich kufar diyan reet aan
    Na maen paakaan vich paleet aan
    Na maen moosa na pharaun.

    Bulleh! ki jaana maen kaun

    Na maen andar ved kitaab aan,
    Na vich bhangaan na sharaab aan
    Na vich rindaan masat kharaab aan
    Na vich jaagan na vich saun.

    Bulleh! ki jaana maen kaun.

    Na vich shaadi na ghamnaaki
    Na maen vich paleeti paaki
    Na maen aabi na maen khaki
    Na maen aatish na maen paun

    Bulleh!, ki jaana maen kaun

    Na maen arabi na lahori
    Na maen hindi shehar nagauri
    Na hindu na turak peshawri
    Na maen rehnda vich nadaun

    Bulla, ki jaana maen kaun

    Na maen bheth mazhab da paaya
    Ne maen aadam havva jaaya
    Na maen apna naam dharaaya
    Na vich baitthan na vich bhaun

    Bulleh , ki jaana maen kaun

    Avval aakhir aap nu jaana
    Na koi dooja hor pehchaana
    Maethon hor na koi siyaana
    Bulla! ooh khadda hai kaun

    Bulla, ki jaana maen kaun Not a believer inside the mosque, am I
    Nor a pagan disciple of false rites
    Not the pure amongst the impure
    Neither Moses, nor the Pharoh

    Bulleh! to me, I am not known

    Not in the holy Vedas, am I
    Nor in opium, neither in wine
    Not in the drunkard`s craze
    Niether awake, nor in a sleeping daze

    Bulleh! to me, I am not known

    In happiness nor in sorrow, am I
    Neither clean, nor a filthy mire
    Not from water, nor from earth
    Neither fire, nor from air, is my birth

    Bulleh! to me, I am not known

    Not an Arab, nor Lahori
    Neither Hindi, nor Nagauri
    Hindu, Turk (Muslim), nor Peshawari
    Nor do I live in Nadaun

    Bulleh! to me, I am not known

    Secrets of religion, I have not known
    From Adam and Eve, I am not born
    I am not the name I assume
    Not in stillness, nor on the move

    Bulleh! to me, I am not known

    I am the first, I am the last
    None other, have I ever known
    I am the wisest of them all
    Bulleh! do I stand alone?

    Bulleh! to me, I am not known

  31. Prtboy says

    Now I’m bored .Nice article dirty commentts.Hindus plz ignore.muslims plz dont start and then blame on hindus and article and read again.Nadir a shame you are indian(if?).Siva go learn some manners and read your own religion rather than just talkin have a decency to shut up.

    Sorry for my spelling and grammer

    • Nadir Husain says

      @Prtboy……….
      Ecxuse me Prtboy……… Y i feel Shame being an Indian…..??? I m proud to be an India Muslim.

      • Prtboy says

        Sorry just being annoyed where everyone just started on something not good.
        I know every religion has its own belief and philosphy and you lour love or hate towards other should not be judged for your patriotism.
        Sorry again but plz mind your own tone too,because it seems you are much obssesed with religion, we should stop critisizing and start a discussion more fruitfull.
        As these type of thigs only grew up in modern world otherwise we kept on sharing good relation and healy critisism and we should do it too now.
        All else is just mythology and fairytales,we should not judge people on certain incidents I never commented on Prophet or my Mother will kill me,nor Ram or Krishna.
        My paternal uncles keeps talking ill about Him and my maternal cousine alwasys taunting on me being a vegitarian or readin Dharmic books.Left with such a thing I declared I belong to nothing and am agnoist.
        You can see why I get so annoyed about these religious critisism,so Sorry, people should start sharing pilosphy which are lovely in every religion and the fancy stories,rituals and practices or concept of god should be held as individual belief and in very light way.

      • Prtboy says

        That was wersonal, but can you imagine india without vedas who gve way to secularism in india(Not talking of present hindus)
        Without puranas who integrated almost all beliefs and system into one nation and concept of multi verse.
        without Ayurveda who gave us Sushrut the father of surgery,
        without yoga which gave way to us to realise our self.
        without Sramanas what gave a little atheistic flavour to Indian society and emphasized on individual.
        without Hindus who accepted new belief of holocentric world.The most accurate cosmology of ancient world.
        Without Buddhist who focused on divinity within rather on gods
        Janis who pioneered mathematics as a prat within a religion.
        Islam who promoted all these to west and middle east(Oh yeah Islam did accepted and promoted all Indian thought and science and was once most open religion of middle east see Arabic numerals,decimal system trigonometry, Ayurvedic practices all spread in world from India via mullahs and molvis even who now are just ……..)
        Christianity who made Indians to look once again towards themselves.Or parsisis or Sikh or Jews or adivasies.
        Didn’t you tied Rakhi Yesterday,(plz do not say No, it will be a heart breaker)

        • Prtboy says

          Plz do not coment on my spellings i realy cant write with accurate spelling,can anyone suggest how to check spellings before posting some software or some program.(wersonal-personal)

  32. raj.hyd says

    up [chote]rasool shri nadir ji !apki yah bat sahi hai kuch sanyasi, rishi, muni adi kisi mare huye janvar ki khal ke upar baith karke dhyan adi lagate hai aise chitr hamne bhi dekhe hai lekin iska yah arth nahi hai ki vah kisi janvar ki hatya bhi karte the ! aur agar hatya ki ha hai to galat kiya hai ! jo bat svikar karne ka sahas ham rakhte hai vah sahas aap kabhi bhi nahi kar sakte1 jaise vaigyanik kuch khoj karne ke liye chuhe , bandar ya any janvaro ka upyog dava ke parikshan karne ke liye karte hai vaise kuch janvaro ka upyog bhi kiiya ja sakta hai 1 lekin uska mans khane ke liye nahi 1 ap jo sachin ji ki bat ka udahar de rahe hai usme hamne us baat par bhi jor diya hai ki vyakti ko shakahari “hi ” hona chahiye ! lekin afsos quran panthi muslim aisa nahi kar pate ? bahut se hindu kahe jane vale log bhi mans khate hai vah bhi galat karte hai ! ram ji ek raja ke putr bhi the aur bhavi raja bhi the vah bhagte huye hiran ka shikar apni dhanurvidya ke liye shikar karte the mans khane ke liye nahi ! agar vah janvaro ka mans khane ke liye shikar karte the vah unka nindniy karm tha , jiska acharan kisi ko bhi nahi karna chahiye ! kya aap bhi muhammad ji ke nindniy karmo ki ninda kar sakte hai itna sahas kya aap kar sakenge ? shaayad nahi ? apko to galiya shayad jyada achhi lagti hongi ? nadir ji ishwar ne hame apko sabhi ko dimag diya hai usme vivek ka istemal kyo n kiya jaye vah chahe sange asvad ko chumna ho ya shiv ling ki puja karna ho ? in pattharo ko jyada mahatv kyo diya jaye hamne to aaj tak kisi bhi patthar ko kabhi mahatv nahi diya koi bhi puja adi kabhi nahi ki !kyo n apna dimag in pattharo se upar le jaye ? ham ishwar ko jan kar mante hai astha ke karan hargij nahi! asthaye to andhi ho chuki hai usko kyo mana jaye ! kya bagair ishwar par astha kiye huye jivan nahi jiya ja sakta ? usko janne me kya takleef hai ?

    • Nadir Husain says

      @Raj.Hyd
      Dekha raj mein na kehta tha ………. aaap hinduoon ko baar baar apne bhagwan badalne me or logo ko bahot jaldi Rasool maane me mazaa aata hai . Chaliye mujhe badi prassanata hai ki aapne aaj mujhe Chota Rasool mana hai kal aaap Muhammad ji ko bhi rasool maan lenge . lekin Unhe bhagwan mat maniye ga . aap log badi jaldi kissi ko bhagwan maan lete hain.

      aaap ki ek baat or mujhe acchi lagi ki aapko bhi bhagwan ne dimag diya hai …. lekin kya itna dimag diya hai ki aaap ishwar ko challange ker sake . raj ji kya aaap is dunia ke subse bade dimag wale aadmi hai ….???
      humme or aap me itni akal nahi hai ki hum ya aaap ishwar ki baato ko challange ker saken . science ki jo baat log kerte hain to science ishwar ki banayi huii ek choti si cheezzz dimag(brain) per hi abhi tak sirf research ker rahi hai koi nishkarsh nahi nikal saki to hum or aap jaise log bhagwan ko challange kaise ker sakte hain .
      or rahi Muhammad ji ( S.A.W) ki kirya kalapo ki baat to raj ji ye aaap bhi jaante hain ki jo baate aaap keh rahe hain wo kitni sahi hain or kitni galat . or na hi ye site koi jagha hai ki iss per kisssi se bahas ho sake . naaa aaap swam hi chahte hain ki aap Islam ko samjhe na na hi hum aapko Islam samjhana chahte hain .
      aaapko Islam samjh me nahiiiiiiiiiii aaata to aaap islaam ko mat maniye . jub aaap apne hi dharam ko nahi samjh sake to islam ko kya samjhe ge . aaap hindu hain to hindu rahiye . agar aapke peshab ki aakhiri boond aapki chaddhi me girti hai or tub bhi aapko lagta hai ki aap hyginic hai to bade shaok se rahiye .
      ek baat or batayie kya peshab kerne ke baad aap pooja kerte hain……??? ya phir se nahane jaate hain.

  33. raj.hyd says

    param adarniy shri nadir ji , koi chij mankar kyo chala jaye ?uski janch kyo n ki jaye ? aaj is zamane me bahut si janch ki ja sakti hai ya jinhone janch ki hai uski bat kyo n mani jaye ? in kitabo ya zahil ,anpadh adi ko apna vishesh guru kyo banaya jaye ? is par bhi vichar kiya jana chahiye ! aaj to zamana pani ki bhi janch ka ho gaya hai, kai sau rupaye prati mah ka ek vyakti shuddh pani ke liye kharch karta hai ! gfir in majahabi kitabo ki bhi janch kyo nkar li jaye ? inki gandgi ko saf kyo n kiya jaye ? agar jab ham apni mata ji ki bat par sandeh karne lagenge tab jarur apne pita ka bhi DNA janch karva lenge ! fir man lijiye galat bhi nikal gaya to ham kya kar lenge ? jisne hamkoitna bada kiya hai uski ijjat kyo n ki jaye ? pita ji hamare asli hai ya nakli isse kya fark padta hai ! akhir kisi ne to hamko pala hai poshit kiya hai ? mata ji bhi hamari asli hai ya nakli isme bhi kya fark padta hai ksi ne to hamko pala hai / usi ki ijjat kar li jayegi ! kya muslimo me talakshuda mahila ke bachhe dubara nikah hone par dusre pita nahi ho ja ta ? kya sauteli mata kisi any bachhe ko nahi palti ? kya us sauteli mata ko bhi ijjat di ja sakti hai ! mukhy bat janmana mata pita ki nahi usse jyada mahatv palne vale mata pita ka hai ! agar dono hi “asli” mil jaye to aur bhi achha hai ? jara is par bhi vichar kar lijiyega !

  34. jannat says

    e buniyad sawalat hai aap ke..
    agar mai is tarah ka prashn karunga to aap 100 janmo me uska uttar nahi de sakte hai..
    misal k taor pe…
    ye duniya kyu banaai gai..
    agar ishvar chahta to bina mehanat ke hamko khana khil sakta tha fir itani mehanat kyu?
    koi amir aor koi gareeb kyu bana?
    insaan hi ko sarv shreshtth kyu banaya gya?
    insaan kyu pap karta hai..?
    bina sambhog kiye bachcha kyu nahi padaho sakta? kya ishvar bina sambhog ke bachcha nahi de sakta?
    pani kyu taral hai?
    hamko jine k liye sans yani hawa ki jarurat kyu hai ? ishvar chahta to binahawa k bhi hamko jivit rakh sakta tha? kya uske pas ye power nahi hai?
    kyu ishvar ne insaano me kuchh gadaho ki tarah parshn karne wala banaya?
    kyu khana muh se khane ko kaha?
    kya ved k bina is sansaar ka kalyan nahi ho sakta hai?
    shree raam aor krishn ko kis liye bhejagya?
    kya bharat hi ishvar ka bhumi hai ? aordesh me hindu kyu nahi hai?
    agar sawal aisa hi karna pare to aap kya ap k pardada bhi in sab ka jawab dete dete parlok sidhar jainge magar sare sawal ka jawab nahi de sakte ..
    waise aap ko ek baat bata du aap ne jitane sawal kiye ha bina sir pair k kiye hai..
    kisi ne ek baat kahi thi wo mai aap ko bata du..
    kisi baag me kisi suwar (pig) ko chhor diya jai to wo jante ho kya talash karega? he he he usko fal aor phool se koi matlab nahi wo to sirf guh ko talash karega …
    plzz aap aisa na bane fal aor phool ko bhi dekhe..
    ab mi aap se ye kahunga ki aap ko aap ka dham mubarak ho aor mujhe mera dharam mubarak ho.. samay aane par allah (ishvar) hamare bich faisla kar dega ki kaon sahi raste pe hai aor kaongalat raste par hai..
    akhir kya baat hai ki puri duniya me isla fail gya hai aor hindu kuchh desh me? akhir islam me koi to wisheshta hogi ki aaj duniya me sab se tez islam hi fail raha hai.. is baat pe gaor kariyega aor islam ke fal aor phool ki taraf dhiyan dijiyega …
    jahilo se baat karna hi bewakufi hoti hai … aage ap khud samjhdaar hai .. byebye…

    • raj.hyd says

      up rasool shri jannat ji ? hmne jo quran me dosh nikale hai uska javab ap nahi de paye ? akhir kyo ?ab apne javab lijiye !1,manushyo ke karmo ka fal dene ke liye . aur dunya banane me apko dosh kya dikhlai pada jara yah bhi batlaiye ?2. kheto me chara hota hai, vah apko bina mehanat ke kha sakte hai ,koshish karke dekhiye janvaro ki tarah ! ya” hava” kahaiye [lijiye]usse bhi jinda rahane ka abhyas kar lijiye 3.apni jyada mehanar v lagan se ameer v kam mehanat v laparvahi se gareeb ! 4. kyo ki insan sochne- samajhe ki shakti jyada rakhta hai , isliye vah sarvshresh bana. 5 insan azad hai isliye achhe v bure karm karne ki azadihai isliye vah pap “bhi “karta hai .6,aap mariyam ban jaiye apko bhi bina sambhog ke issa ji mil jayenge.fir bhi ham uski bhi alochna karenge ?7,pani ki taralta me apko kya dosh dikha vahi batlaiye ? 8. hava lene me apko kathnai kya aa gai usme dosh kya dikha? jara yah bhi batlaiye ! hava halki hoti hai usse ap jivit rahne ka achha abhyas kar sakte hai , v vah bina mehanat ke bhi mil jati hai ! 9.aap logo ki seet “surakshit “rahe isliye ap jaisi prash kar sake isliye banaya ?10 tral padarth aap nak se “bhi” le sakte hai , abhyas kijiye , fir aap chahe to “niche” se bhi le sakte hai ! yah keval apke liye “surakshit” kiya ja sakta hai ? khuda ji se apeel kiniye ? 11 .bilkul ho sakta hai ,akhir janvar bhi kahan ved padhte hai 1 vah bhi jivit rahate hai koi bhi kitab mat padhiye ? akhir muhammad ji bhi to anpadh the kya unka kalyan nahi hua ? apka kya khyal hai ?12.ram ji v krishn ji ko kisi ne nahi bheja vah apni mehanat v lagan aur vivek se age badhe ! isliye aap bhi unka naam jan sake ?13.keval bharat hi ishvar ki bhumi nahi hai sara sansar ishvar ka hai , hindu bhi bharat ke alava anek desho me hai.14.hamare par dada ji kya kate yah vao jane lekin hamne apke javab isi “janm” me dene ki koshish ki !agar apke pas jiska uttar n ho usko aap be sir pair ka batlaye , yah apki “akshamta ” jahir karta hai ! isliye aap aisa kah rahe hai ” jab aap kisi ki tab ke “gulam ” ban…

      • Nadir Husain says

        Raj jiii
        ye aapne jawab diye hai ya apne bewakooof hone ka sabooot .
        janwaro ka chara aap insaano ko khane ko kehte hain or ye aapka jawab hai….!!!! kya ho gaya hai aapki buddhi ko ….???
        .6,aap mariyam ban jaiye apko bhi bina sambhog ke issa ji mil jayenge. is utttar me aaapne badi aasani se Christians ko jawab diya lekin phir aaap kunti maata ko bhool gaye . Christians or hinduon ke saath aysa doshrapan kyuuun kya aaap kunti maa ko bhool gaye the ya apne dharam ko dosh dene me thodi sharam aa rahi thi. phir jawab dene me aysi sharam kyuuuunnnnn . aaapto gyani hain phir maata ka chitrath kerne me aysa dohrapan kyuuun.
        11 .bilkul ho sakta hai ,akhir janvar bhi kahan ved padhte hai 1 vah bhi jivit rahate hai koi bhi kitab mat padhiye ? akhir muhammad ji bhi to anpadh the kya unka kalyan nahi hua ? apka kya khyal hai ?
        ( Ye kehne se aaapka kya tatparya hai ki jitne hindu ved nahi padhte wo sub janwar hain. or aap ved padhte hain to aap insan hain…??? zara aapke vichar jaannna chahta hu….. aapme or baaki hinduoon me kya difference hain) ye baaat aapne badi sahi kahi ki mohammad ji anpadh the lekin unhone jo baat Quran me kahi wo koi anpadh aadmi nahi keh sakta (ye to shayad aap bhi manne ge) iska matlab to ye huwa ki unke uppar bhagwan ki asseeeem kirpa rahi hogi tab hi unhone Quran keh di . yehi baat to hum aapko samjhna chah rahe the . kya aap samjh ker bhi sanhi samjhna chahte .
        issse liye hume aapke bhagwan ram ko krishn per comment kerne per aapattti hai . jaise mohammad ji per bhagwan ki kirpa thi waise hi Ram or krishn per bhi kirpa rahi hogi . wo koi sadharan purush ho hi nahi sakte . iss liye aaap vedo me aag lagayiye or chale aayiye mohammad ji , ram or krishn ko manne .
        apne bhagwan ke bheje huye awataar ko maanne me kaisi sharam . chale aayiye . deiirrr na kijye .
        ye jawab wo hai to aapke per dada aapko dete . dekh lijye aaap per bhi bhagwan ki aseeem kirpa hai jo bina dada ji ke aapko dada ke uttar mil rahe hain .

        13.keval bharat hi ishvar ki bhumi nahi hai sara sansar ishvar…

        • says

          ——–aap mariyam ban jaiye apko bhi bina sambhog ke issa ji mil jayenge. is utttar me aaapne badi ———
          ye sab aap hi ke yahaan chalta hoga… bacha kahin se karo aur keh do allah ne god ne diya hai .. bna sambhog ke! yadi parmatma ne aisa karna hota toh sambhog ki vyavastha hi nahi bnata… parmatma ne sambhog ki vyavastha bnai hai.. aur parmatma apne hi niyam nahi todta!

          ———aaap kunti maata ko bhool gaye——–
          shayad aap surya se putra hne ki baat kar rahe ho!
          surya se putra hona sambhav nahi hai! ya toh vo katha jhooti hai… ya shayad surya koi vyakti vishesh ho! kuchbhi ho… non living surya se santan hona sambhav nahi! hum quran ki besir pair ki kahaniyo ki tarah uska bhi khandan karte hain!

          —-akhir janvar bhi kahan ved padhte hai 1 vah bhi jivit rahate hai koi bhi kitab mat padhiye——–
          haan toh humare yahan janvaro ko moksh nahi hota… keval manushya janam mein hi moksh sambhav hai… isiliye maushya janam uttam hai.
          jee, toh humne kab kaha ved na padne wala mar jayega?? ved na padne wala andhkar mein rahega, gyan se door rahega, atma ke anand se door rahega!
          bas itna hi antar hoga ved pade mein or na pade mein!

          ———– akhir muhammad ji bhi to anpadh the kya unka kalyan nahi hua ? apka kya khyal hai ?———
          nahi nahi hua!! jisne itni maarkat macha di, ki kai 100 varsho tak uski di ek pustak ke karan log ek dusre ke khoon ke pyase hogye …. uska kaisa kalyaan?????

          ————mohammad ji anpadh the lekin unhone jo baat Quran me kahi wo koi anpadh aadmi nahi keh sakta———
          aji rehne dijiye miyan!! .. jannat mein huro ke maze… sharaab ki nadiya, chand ko todna, ek raat ke allah ke paas ja kar milkar vapas aa jana, … aisi aisi murkhta ki batein anpah hi bol sakta hai!!

          “chale aayiye . deiirrr na kijye .”
          aisi bacho ki si batein… koi logic, kuch debate koi point toh rakhiye… aap sab comments mein bas yahi faltu cheezein likh rahe hai jaisi ki quran mein bhi hain!

          • Nadir Husain says

            to aaap ye kehna chahte hain ki Kunti maata jhuuthi thi karan ek najayazz putr tha . or kya aap iske aage bhi jaana chahte ho ki mahabharat or gita bhi jhoothe hain . kal ko aap ye bhi keh do ge ki aapki maaata jhoothi hai ……… tumahra kaha maane ga kaon.
            vedwayas jhoothe the or tum sacche ho…….??? krishn jhoothe the or tum sacche ho …??? agar ye baat mathura me ja ke keh do to juuute se maare jaoge . issi site per hi ye bak bak kerna .

          • Nadir Husain says

            akhir muhammad ji bhi to anpadh the kya unka kalyan nahi hua ? apka kya khyal hai ?———
            nahi nahi hua!! jisne itni maarkat macha di, ki kai 100 varsho tak uski di ek pustak ke karan log ek dusre ke khoon ke pyase hogye …. uska kaisa kalyaan?????

            Muhammad ji ne maar kaat kerwa di ………. tumko isse pareshani hai lekin ram se pooori lanka me maar kaaat macha hi ye tumhare liye garv ki baat hai .
            ab ye mat keh dena ki ram bhi jhoothe the .
            jo baat tumhe buri lagti hai wo jhoothi kehe dete ho….???? apne baap ke kehe ko to saccha kehte ho ya nahi ya wo bhi jhootha tha tumahre surya purt ki terhaan .

          • Nadir Husain says

            chale aayiye . deiirrr na kijye .”
            aisi bacho ki si batein… koi logic, kuch debate koi point toh rakhiye… aap sab comments mein bas yahi faltu cheezein likh rahe hai jaisi ki quran mein bhi hain!

            Bhai sahi kaha aapne Quran me jo bhi likh diya wo likh diya ab ussko hum log time to time badalte nahi hain. ki jub raj sahab ne chaha ram or kirshn ko sadharan purush keh diya jub apni poti ke saath avaidh sambandh banwane huyye to kisssi ko samachar patr se aamantirt ker liya .
            arrre ek baat per to thaheriye kabhi kuch kehte hain kabhi kuch . kabhi ram ko bhagwan kehte hain kabhi tuchhhh purush.

          • says

            “ram se pooori lanka me maar kaaat macha di”

            shri ram ki patni seeta lanka mein bandi thi!
            mohammad ki konsi patni bharat ka koi raja utha laya tha??????

            ” Kunti maata jhuuthi thi karan ek najayazz putr tha ”
            kunti mata jhooti na thi, lekin kunti mata ne mahabharat nahi likhi hai!
            vedvyas ji ne mahaharat 30,000 shlok ki likhi thi… aaj 1 lakh shlok ki milti hai,…
            khud geeta press gorakhpur vale bhi printed version mein mark karke dete hai ki bahut se shlok galat hai aur baad mein jode hue prateet hote hai!

            bilkul waise jaise tumhare “ahaddees”— jo dharti ko buffalo ki sing ke upar or suraj ko keechad mein dhalta btati hai!! ab tum bolo hadees likhne vale jhoote tum sache???????

    • Nadir Husain says

      @Jannat
      arrre jannat tum raj bhai ko seriosly mat lo ye bechare ayse hi hain. inko be sir pairrr ke parshan kerne ki aadat hai.
      humse or aaapse bahot prashan kerte hain lekin jub maine ek prashan inse apne mata pita ko kerne ko kaha to uska jawab dene me ye swarg sidhar gaye . ye aastha per zara bhi vishwas nahi rakhte lekin abhi tak inhone apne pita or apna DNA test nahi kerwaya hai :-)
      inke prashan dekh ker hi tumhe samjh aa jana chahiye tha ye bechare dimag se kitne kunthit hai. inko bhagwan ko challange dene me bada maza aata hai. werna zara tum hi soocho koi bewakoof Hindu hi hoga jo ye kahega ki Shri Ram or krishan ko bhangwan ne nahi bheja tha jub ki poori dunia jaanti hai ki inke hi vedo me ram or krishn ka zirk hai or ab dekho sirf apne aaapko manwane ke liye raj ne ram ko krish ki personality ko dhoker rakh diya . agar ye baat hinduoon ko pata chal jaye to inki watt laga di jayegi . koi raj se ja ker pooche ki wo sri krish hi the jinhone ek hi baar me aakash , patal or dharti ko chu liya tha , wo bhagwan krish hi the jinhone poore parwat ko apne haatho per utha liya tha kya koi manushya itni mehnat ker sakta hai ki wo akash patal ko chu sake ya poore parwat ko haath se utha sake . raj se aapse prashan kerna to bekaar hai aap chup hi rahiye ga to behter hai .

      Hindu dharam apne aapme bahot hi rich or purana dharam hai . lekin kuch log sirf apne aapko gyani dikahne ke liye isski wattt lagane per tule huye hain .
      raj sahab se koi bhi gila mat rakhna ye bechare ayse hi hain na bhagwan ram ke hi huye na vedo ke . kabhi kehte hian ishwar hai kabhi kehte hain ishwar nahi hai .

      • says

        “poori dunia jaanti hai ki inke hi vedo me ram or krishn ka zirk hai ”

        ye kons duniya hai?? hume bhi darsh karvaiye!! lagta hai aapke madrse mein shuru hokar vahin khatam ho gyi….

        ” agar ye baat hinduoon ko pata chal jaye to inki watt laga di jayegi ”
        arya samaj kabse chal raha , swami dayanand ne kab kab kis kiski watt lagayi thi google par dekh lein!

        “kabhi kehte hian ishwar hai kabhi kehte hain ishwar nahi hai .”
        ye aapko kaha se sunta hai? paas vali masjid se? na toh koi manir aisa kehta na .. koi hindu! man hi ke veham hain miyan! :P

        • Nadir Husain says

          @arya ……..
          jisss swamidayanand ki baat ker rahe ho usse poochta hi kaon hai .
          mahasjid or maderse me aane ka dil ker raha hai kya ……??? aana chahe to aa sakte hain wahan koi bhi aa sakta hai . aaap logo ki terhaan nahi ki ki jo raam ko maanta ho wo raam mandir jo kirshn ko maanta ho wo krishn mandir ……… jo shiv ko mane wo shiv mandir…… ha ha ha jitne bhagwan utne mandir……. kam se kam ye madarse or mahsjid me to nahi hota hai .
          pata nahi kitne dayanand aaye or chale gaye ……. hindu dharam jahan tha wahin hai. hindu dharam ram or krishn ka tha or unhi ka rahe ga ……… hum unke saath ye annyay nahi hone denge .

          • says

            tumhare apne dharma ki buniyadein kaanp rahin hain.. nit nayein jehadi humle ho rahe hai…. sabse bda musalman osama mara gya…(zakir naik also said he is not sure if osama is a bad person, means he still thinks maybe osama a good person)
            …..
            tum kya anyay hone se bachaoge!!
            kashi shastrath ke bare mein pado… pado kaise dayanand ji ne sabke saamne murti pooja khandan k vedo se prove kiya tha!

          • shravak says

            @Nadir

            ——raam ko maanta wo raam mandir jo kirshn ko maanta ho wo krishn mandir ……… jo shiv ko mane wo shiv mandir————–

            jaise shia ki masjid alag, sunni ki masjid alag, ahmediyon ki alag etc? Allah toh ek hai na, fir alag alag masjide kyun?

            Kam se kam hum hindu ek dusre ko bomb se toh nahi udaatey. Tumhare bhai toh RAMZAN main bhi nahi ek dusre ko chodte.

            Pakistan jo hindu-nafrat ki buniyaad se paida hua tha, dekhlo uska hashra hamare bina.

            http://gulfnews.com/news/world/pakistan/pakistan-bomb-blast-kills-more-than-48-people-1.854253

          • Nadir Husain says

            @Shravak ……….
            tum dharam ki aag me itne andhe ho gaye ki tumhe ye bhi samjh nahi aata ki Bhagan or Allah ek hi hain.
            Agar tum Bhagwan or Allah ko alag alag maante ho to bataoo …. phir aage tumse baat hi kerna bekaar hai.

          • arya pathik says

            Shri Shri 1008 Nadir ji@

            aap shayad Islam ki aaj ki haalat se waakif nahi hain.

            Islam is divided in 73 sects and everyone is killing each other.

            1. Todays a very large section of Muslims do not believe that mohammed was the last Prophet.

            2. a very large section of Muslims believe that Mirza Ghulam Quadiani was the last prophet.

            3. a very large section of Muslims today believe in GRAVE WORSHIP.

            4. a very large section of Muslims today DRINK ALCOHOL.

            5. a very large section of Muslims [BOHRI MUSLIMS] today have Hindu traditions and they dont regard and follow ISLAMIC traditions.

            6. a very large section of Muslims [KHOJA MUSLIMS] today have hindu names and customs and they dont regard and follow ISLAMIC traditions.

            7. Today a very large section of Muslims [SHIAS] believe that AISHA was not a good person.

            8. Today a very large section of Muslims [WAHABIS] believe that Aisha killed Mohammed.

            9. Mirza Ghulam Quadiyani said that mohammed wasnt even a prophet otherwise he wouldnt have died in a dirty place.

            10. Shia believe that Aisha would go to hell since she fought Ali. [u r a SHIA]

            11. Sunnis believe that Aisha was the mother of believers and she would go to hell.

            12. Wahabis are breaking / demolishing Shia shrines in UAE and only thing SHIA’s can do is cry. ha ha haha

            13. Muslims are worse than Hindus or any other religion.

            we Hindus dont claim that only some hindu will go to heaven but we believe that every person who has done good / noble deeds will go to heaven, whether hindu or no.

            Shri Shri 1008 Nadir ji, u answer these and than we will talk further.

  35. raj.hyd says

    han jannat ji , jab aap kisi kitab ke “gulam ” banenge tab aap hamare prasno se ghabra jayenge ? lekin dusro se aap bhi aise prashn karenge 1 isliye kisi kitab ki “gulami” chodiye ! jaise any jagah prashn karte hai vaise hi prashn quran ki kitab par bhi uthaiye ! tab aapko bhi uski “asliyat ” jahir ho jayegi ! ham koi khuda nahi hai jo keval ham hi jan sake ? jaise jab aap jagruk grahak bante hai tab aap bhi us saman ki kafi janch karte hai v anek tark vitark bhi karte hai vaise prashndharmik kahi jane vali pustko par bhi ki jani chahiye uske bhi ek jagruk manusy ya “grahak ” baniye uski janch padtal kijiye nahi to apko bhi “murkh” samjha jayega ! yah kahan ka nyay hai ki aap jab koi kapda ya matka adi le usko “andhe” ban kar kharid le , bad me kharab nikalne par pachtaye ? ya dukan dar apko thag le ? lekin nahi jitn apki buddhi hoti ap uski janch padtal karte hai ! tab saman lete hai vaisi hi janch padtal sabhi dharmk kahi jane vali pustkon par bhi kinjiye janch padtal kiniye ya jinhone aisi janch ki hai unko padhiye ! fir apni buddhi se faisala kiniye ! jo achha lage usko maniye ! baki ko chod dijiye ! vivek ka istemal kijiye yah dimag bhi ishwar ne diya uska istemal in kitabo par kyo n kare “andh vishvas ” kyo mane kyo failaye ? aur jo ap bageche v suar ki kahani pesh kar rahe hai , jab apki kitabo me suar ka bhojan maujud hoga tab vah apna bhojan bhi grahan kar lega isliye suar ka bhojan apni kitab se nikal dijiye ya uso mat maniye suar us bageeche se vapas jakar kahi aur apna bhojan talashne chala jayega !ab aap kaha rahe hai islam kyo faila ? ham apse puchte hai ki nashkarne vale, suar ka mans khane vale andh vishvasi zahil , anpadh , v gair muslim bhi is sansar me bahut jyada hai ? akhir kyo ? colgete manjan sabse jyad ais desh me kyo bikta hai pepsi adi itni jyada kyo bikti hai usme kya vesheshta hai jiska jyada “prachar” hota hai vah duniya me cha sakta hai ! is desh me snatak para snatak itne kam kyo hai anpadh jyada kyo hai ? doctar , vakeel kam kyo hai mareej v muvakkil jyada kyo…

    • Nadir Husain says

      @ Raj
      Raj bhai ab kya aapki ram or krish se bhi dushmani ho gai jo apane unhe ek sadharan purush keh diya . or bhi sirf isliye ki aap jannat ko ek karara jawab de saken .

      bhai kuch clear to kijye ki aaap vedo ka prachar ker rahe hain ya bhagwan ram ka …… ‘
      aaap ishwar ko mante bhi hain ya nahi ….. kyunki vedo to khud kahin kahin per bhagwan ke na hone ka aadesh dete hain .
      kabhi aap kehte hain ki bhagwan hain per dikhte nahi hai unka koi swaroop nahi hai kabhi khud kehte hain ki bhagwan nahi dikhte hian to murti pooja hi sahi hai .
      ab ayse bhi gyani hone se kya faida ki apne hi bhagwan ko tuchya insaan keh diya . hindustan ke kissi hindu ko bhagwan ram me koi galti nazar nahi aati lekin aapko bhagwan me galti nazar aati hai ki unho ne seeta ko gher se nikal diya . batao ye bhi koi baat huiii jisko bhagwan maante ho jo sarv shaktishali hai her gun sammpann hai usske hi decision ko challange de diya aapne. aysi bhi bhakti kiss kaam ki . aap seedhe seedhe keh dijye ki aap bhagwan ko maante hi nahi hain.

      • says

        ————-“kya aapki ram or krish se bhi dushmani ho gai jo apane unhe ek sadharan purush keh diya “——-

        Ram parmatma nahi the… ek mahan purush the!
        ab aap btaiye “ajmer vale khwaja ji ” kya the? parmatma ya sadharan purush?
        agar sadharan the toh ab bhi hazaro ki tadad mein muslim wha chadarein chda kar mannatein kyu mangte hain?

        ————-“aap ishwar ko mante bhi hain ya nahi ….. kyunki vedo to khud kahin kahin per bhagwan ke na hone ka aadesh dete hain”——–

        hum ishvar ko mante hai !
        miyan . lagta hai quran aur ved saath saath padh bethe ho! quran hi hai jo aisi bevkufi bhari batein likhi hai ki lage parmatma hai hi nahi! Vedo ke vishay mein aisa sochna aapke mastishk ki karigari ho hai !

        ————-“khud kehte hain ki bhagwan nahi dikhte hian to murti pooja hi sahi hai”————-
        aisa yhaan par kaun keh raha hai btaiye jraa? ved kehte hai parmatma ki koi murti nahi ho sakti ! murti pooja nishedh hai !
        “na tasiye pratima asti”- there can be no image of him!
        aur haan .. ye bhi ki parmatma ki kabrein bhi nahi hoti!! jispe chadar chadane se parmatma mannat puri karega!!

        ———-” aap seedhe seedhe keh dijye ki aap bhagwan ko maante hi nahi hain.”——–

        seedhe seedhe aap seedhi baat kahiye ki quran keval man ki soch se bnai gyi pustak jisme jo man mein aaya likh diya …
        swarag mein hurein dedi,shraab ki nadiya baha di, man mein aaya toh chand ko tod diya , man mein aaya toh ek rat mein hi aalah miyan ko mil kar aa gye, parde ki oat mein khuda se batein karli, gadhe udne lag gye, aadmi bandar ban gye, nikah pe nikah kar liye , khud toh kai vivah kiye phir likhwa diya tum panch se ahk na karo, subh uth kar katleaam machwa diya … ityadi ityadi!!

        • Nadir Husain says

          @Krishna Arya
          ek baat kaho ram the kya insan the ya bhagwan the …… the bhi ya nahi . tum logo ka to aysa hi hai kabhi ram , kabhi krishan kabhi shiv …. kabhi koi nahi sirf ved ……. ved me bhi kahin bhagwan hai to dikhta nahi hai nahi dikhta hai to murti bana lo …. batao ek baat to kaho .

          Kam se kam Quran kuch kehti to hai…. Ved to bechare kuch keh hi nahi pate …. unke to pita ji hi nahi hai jaise Ram ji nahi hain jaise Krishan nahi hian.

          ek common baat tum sub me hai tum logo ko mohammad ji ke ek se zyada nikah kerne se bada aitraaz hai ….. tumhe bhi do teen kerne hain …!!!! lekin gao mutr pi ker ek hi vivah nahi chala pate ho do teen ki to baat hi dooor hai. gao mutr nahi Gao khao Gao
          Gao samjhte ho na Gao Mata

          • arya pathik says

            Shri Shri 1008 Nadir ji @

            mohammed ji bahut hi mahaan purush the. wo toh purush hi nahi Maha-purush the. Unki Jawaani ka raaj bhi aaj hame maalum ho gaya hai.

            meri majboori aisi hai ki main sab Hadith ko sahi maanta hoon aur hadith ke khilaaf nahi jaa sakta.

            Hadith ke hisaab se mohammed CAMEL-URINE peene he samarthak the aur unhone logo ko kaha ki CAMEL URINE piyo like bournevita / complan etc etc.

            Mohammed khud bhi apni paaltu She-Camel se direct hi Camel Urine lete the jiske kaaran unki sehat bahut hi majboot ho gayi thi.

            Jahan tak moahmmed ki sex power ki baat hai uske baare mein Aisha ne saaf saaf bataya hai aur Koi bhi aadmi Aisha ki baat ke saamne kuch nahi keh sakta.

            “Magic was worked on Allah’s Apostle so that he used to think that he had sexual relations with his wives while he actually had not.” Aisha (Bukhari 7,71,660)”

            Mohammed has THIS unique method of having sex as EXPLAINED BY HIS MOST LOVING WIFE, AISHA.

            Shri Shri 1008 Nadir ji @ u r right that Mohammed had lot of sexual power since he used to drink CAMEL URINE and hinus didnt have that much sexual powers since they never used cow urine as an alternative to VIAGRA like mohammed did with CAMEL URINE.

            Shri Shri 1008 Nadir ji @ forgive all hindus pls since they didnt know that Mohammed was a CAMEL URINE DRINKER and not COW URINE DRINKER.

            THANX IN ADVANCE

        • Nadir Husain says

          @Raj.Hyd & Arya
          …. Ram ne tum dono ka kya bigada hai kyuunnn apne faide ke liye us bechare ko badnaam ker rahe ho … pehle ravan uski patni le gaya phir ussi ke putr usski watt lagane lage phir wahi patni jisse itna chahta tha usko kho diya …
          or ab tum dono ved prachar ke chakkar me kabhi usse tucch purush kabhi sadharan manaw kabhi ab ek ye naye aaye hain ki Ram Mahan purush the …. Mahan purush the to itni pareshani kyun jheli unhone …
          mat karo pareshan usse ek akela ravan hi kafi tha ab tum dono bhi shuru ho gaye .

          • SDC says

            Waise aapke muhammad toh mahaan purush hi the 11 biwi ko jo chodte the na. Waise unke sex power ki bada charche the. Asadharan toh woh the hi kyun 11 ko karne ke baad bhi ghanimat ka maal ka bhi maja uthate the aur sex slaves bhi rakhte the.

  36. raj.hyd says

    jannat ji ,isliye sansar me qvality par “dhyan” diya jata hai ? sankhya jyada hone par nahi iis desh me murtipujak andh vishvasi bahut jyada hai tab kya aap bhi murti pujak v andh vishvasi banenge ya is desh ko hi chod denge ? isliye apne jivan me sudhar laiye jiski bahut jyada gunjaish bhi keval apne mata pita ke, parivar ke majahab ko “parampra” se mat maniye sabhi kitabo ko padhiye fir bhi quran achhi lage tab us par bhi astha rakh lijiye ” gun grahak” baniye, aandh vishvasi nahi ! hamne keval quran h nahi anek dharmik kahi jane vali kitabe padh hai tab aisi bat karte hai ! koi bat ham kahate hai ,ved kahata hai , ram ji kahate hai , baibal kahati hai quran kahati hai, “sakshat ishvar” v khuda ji bhi samne aakar bhi kahate hai , tab bhi usko sach mat maniye ! apni buddhi se , vivek se , uski janch padtal kijiye 1 uska virodhi paksh, uska samarthak paksh, achhai- burai kami – jyada, nafa -nuksan ko yani har tarah se dekhiye janchiye padhiye samajhye 1 jab aapki “akl sharif ‘ kisi ko pasand kar le tab usko man lijiye ! tab jyada achha rahega akhir padhe likhe ka bhi kuch matlab bhi hona chahiye varna padhne ka matlab bhi kya rah jayega ! ham sab kyo andh vishvasi bane kyo jahil kahalaye kyo kisi anpad [ummi ] ko “hi ” apna mukhiya banaye 1 akhir usse jyada to ham sab padhe likhe hai hi ! baki apki pasand hai ,sab ko nasha karne ki bhi chut hai, andh vishvasi bhi ban sakte hai , uska bhi rasta khula hai , jahil bane rahiye , sabko apni man marji ka adhikar bhi hai , fir is desh me azadi hai, yah koi saudee arab to nahi hai jahan apni azadi se rahne me bhi prati bandh ho ?

    • Truth Seeker says

      @jannat

      Tumhari Himmat kaise hui ye kahne ki Allah iss duniya ko banane se pahale apni kurshi par nikmo ki tarah aaram kar raha tha. Ved kahate ki Ishwar khabhi bhi khali nahi baithata hai.

      • Nadir Husain says

        @Truth Seeker
        pehle ja ker dekh ved me Iswar ka koi concept hai bhi ya nahi ….??? 4 ved ek doosre ke hi against nazar aane lagte hain .

  37. says

    बहुत ही सुंदर लेख. तर्कसंगत और सटीक.
    कुतर्कियों और दुराग्रहियों की समझ से बाहर की बातें हैं, परन्तु स्वयं अनभिज्ञ हिंदुओं के लिए बहुत उपयोगी है.

    • Nadir Husain says

      @Manoj ji
      Hindu anbhigy nahi hote hain per thode saral hote hain unhe koi bhi apni baato me phansa leta hai jaise abhi aaap iss site ki baato phans gaye .
      sawdhan raha kijye . pehle aap ko valmiki me looota . phir ram ne phir krishn ne or phir pata nahi kissne kissne lekin ek Mr. Raj ne humko bataya ki Ram ya Krishn koi bhagwan nahi the woh to ek tucch prani the . aaap chahen to unke laikh bhi padh sakte hian . wo ram or krishn ko bhagwan manne se inkaar ker rahe hian zara dhayan dijye ki kaon sahi hai.

  38. raj.hyd says

    mahamahim shri nadir ji , hamne apke vichar samay par nahi dekh paye the isliye uska uttar ab ham dena chahenge ! kya ram ji v krishn ji ko agar ham bhagvan nahi mane to kya vah sadharan manushy kahalayenge ? hamne to unko sadharan manushy kabhi nahi kaha maha purush jarur kaha ! fir jhuthi bat aap kyo kahana chahte hai ?ham ne yah kab kaha ki ishwar nahi hai ? ham ishwar ko bhi jaan kar manna chahte hai keval andh vishvas ke karan nahi ! isliye hamne ishwar ke gun samjhe tab ham ishwar ko mante hai ! ap jaison ki tarah andh vishvas ke karan khuda ko hargij nahi mante ! ham jo bat kahate hai keval yahi par nahi kahate apne mitro se bhi ya any jagah bhi kahate hai fir yah bat bhi kahane vale ham akele hi nahi hai kai karod log kaha karte hai yah alag bat hai ki aap sabhi se parichit n ho ?agar padh likh karke bhi andh vishvasi bane to us padhai ka kya labh ? ham koi apnei padhai ka ahankar nahi karte hai lekin jo sikha hai usko sabhi se batchit me kyon shamil kiya jaye ?agar ham apni bat me kamjor hote to aap bhi hamari bat ka uttar de lete lekin aap bhi any logo ki tarah shant hokar baithy gaye ! aur yah bhi dekhiyega any muslim bhi jo yahan ayenge vah bhi shant hokar chale jayenge ! kyoki koi muslim zakir nayak ji se shayad hi bada ho ham unse e mail ke madhyam se prashn kar chuke hai unhone bhi uska uttar dena uchit nahi samjha ! ham unke mumbai sthit karyalay bhi anek bar ja chuke hai , vahan par zakir ji to nahi unke chele jarur hamari bat ka javab nahi de paye the ! sarvjanik rup se bhi ham zakir ji se prashn kar chuke hai , uska unhone uchit samadhan prasut nahi kiya tha ! ham kisi ko apna dushman nahi mante , aur n kisi se dushmani rakhte hai , to ram ji v krishn ji ko apna dushman kyo manenge ? aap log jarur ali ji ko apna dushman mante hai jo shiya adi ko anek bar jaan semar bhi chuke hai kai lakh shiya ap logo ke shikar ban chuke hai ! batlaiye kitnibar “tabarra padhne par shiya samuday par markat ki un par patthar barsaye ? yah aap log chahe to lakhnawu ke kisi bhi shiya se jankari le sakte hai…

  39. raj.hyd says

    up rasool shri nadir ji , agar aap up rasool kahane se khush ho jate hai to hame kya takleef hai , ap aur jyada khush ho jaaiye? chaliye kam se kam aap kisi ek bat se to hamse khush huye ? hamko maloom hai aap hamse islam ki ninda karne ke karan naraj raha karte honge ? lekin hamara uddeshy kisi ko bhi naraj karna nahi hota hai lekiin apni bat rakhna avshy hota hai ! agar ap anumati denge to ham apko up rasool hi kaha karenge ! lekiin yad rakhiye ga ham apko ya any kisi muslim ko rasool kabhi nahi kahenge , hamko uske kuch arth maloom hai , isliye uski maaryad ham nahi todna chahenge !dekhiye ham apni buddhi ka matr shayad 1% hi istemal kar pate hai , baki to hamari kshamata hi nahi hai ! agar ishwar ka hame sahyog mila to ham koshish karenge ki ham usko aur viksit karene ki cheshta karenge ! jitna ham dharm ke vishay me jante hai utni hi bat to ham rakhenge , usse jyada kaise rakh sakte hai hamari bat rakhne ki bhi to ek seema hai ! dekhiye peshab ganda hota hai , paseena bhi ganda hotahai, shareer ke andar ki adhikansh chij gandi hi hoti hai usko khaya piya nahi ja sakta ! ek manushy hone ke nate , kuch janvar jarur uska istemal kar sakte hai ! vaise ishvar ki prarthna to snan karke man ko shudh karke hi karna chahiye lekin ham yog karte huye , isnan ke pahale hi kuch minat ishvar ka dhyan lagane ki cheshta karte hai , sath me apne hosho havash me ishvar ko bhulna pasand nahi karte , ham keval kuch minat ishvar ko yad kare baki samay apni man marji kare dusro ka apman adi kare ya kisi ko thage , dusro ka nuksan kre aisa ko kary ham karna pasand nahi karte, aur n karte hai . kyoki ham ishvar ko krm fal dene me vishvaas karte hai aur dusro ko karm fl mile athva n mile lekin hamko jara sa bhi galt kary ka fal jaldi mil jata hai , isliye ham apne ko jyada achhe kary me hi samay lagaya karte hai , jane anjane kabhi jara sa bhi galat kary hojata hai manviy bhul hojati hai tab hamko uska aihasas bhi ho jata hai aur uski saja ki anubhuti bhi ham kar liya karte hai koi n koi hamara nuksan bhi ho jata hai ! chha up…

  40. raj.hyd says

    mahamahim up rasool shri nadir ji ! ham apko to to up rasool kah rahe lekin muhammad ji ke vishay me jahan tak hamari jankari hai unke vishay me ham achhi ray nahi rakh pate hai , vah ap jan hi gaye honge usko ham dubara dohraye , usse koi labh bhi nahi hoga ! jara sochiye ham aapse kuch prashn rakhna chahenge 1 batlaiye quran me khuda ji dono hatho se adam ji ko banate hai param adarniy shri iblees ji ko adam ji ke samne sijda karnne ke liye kahate hai , manniy iblees ji unki bat nah mante hai kya khuda ji ko yah aihasaas nahi ho paya tha ki ham jisko adesh de rahe hai vah hamara kahana nahi manenge ? fir adesh kyo diya apni tauheen khuda ji ne iblees ji ke hatho kyo karvai ?man lijiye apka koi naukar , ya apka bachha apka kahana sabhi ke samne n mane apko kaisa lagega ? lekin khuda ji to jante honge ki yah iblees ji hamara kahana nahi manega fir kyo adesh diya aur galat adesh diya kisi adam ji ke samne vah kyo jhuke ? jab allah ke samne jhukna hi achha tha tab adam ji ko kyo ? kya PARAM ADARNIY SHRI IBLEES JI FARISHTE THE ? kaha to yah jata hai ki vah aag se banaye gaye hai vah jinno me se the ! tab khuda ka adesh manniy iblees par lagu kaise hua khuda ki shikayat iblees ji se hi galat hai ! lekin aap log yaha par tark karne me hi asfal ho jate hai ? kyoki apko ankh meech karke quran ko allah ka kalam manne me hi jyada “ananad” shayad aat hoga ? ham to yah kahana chahenge ki aap hamari bat hargijmat manye ram ji ki bat bhi mat maniye n ved ki bat maniye aur n muhammad ji ki bat maniye aur quran nki har bat maniye ! jab aapki buddhi koi abhi adesh ya vichar ko ap saty man le usbat ka koi virodhi bhi n ho usko parkhe ! jane janch kare tab vah bat mane fir chae vah quran kahe ya muhammad ji ya ram ji adi ! yah paksh jyada achha rahega ! are koi padh likh kar bhi ham kisi ke gulam kyo bane ? ham ved ki har bat nahi mante jab tak hamari buddhi me bat nahi baith jayeg tab tak ham kisi ki bat manne ke liye majbur nahi hai ! hame apne mata pita ya guru ki bhi har bat manne ke liye badhy nahi hai bachpan ki bat aur…

    • Nadir Husain says

      Raj.hyd
      aaapne badi vinamrta se humse prashan kiya hai to aapko hum aaram se hi jawab denge ………… Lekin aaap jaante hain ki mera jawab kya hoga wahiiiii DNA test. aaap samjh gaye ya mein poora jawab phir se du …. phir aapki mata or pita ke relation ko kholker subko batana hoga …. baaki to aap akalmand hain.

      Or rahi mohammad ji ke baare me aapki rai to usse koi farq nahi padta . bus aaap apni rai mat badaliyega chahe aapke pita ji badal gaye ho . :-)

      • SDC says

        Waise Nadir ji, aap biological father per aapka jor jyada hai. Man lete hain ki koi bacccha hain jisko uske biological baap ne marne ke liye chhod diya per ek bhale manush ne uski parwarish ki aur woh bacche ka adopted pita bana, toh bacche ke liye adarniye kaun hai, jisne use paida kiya and marne ke liye chhoda ye woh jisne use pal posh kar bada kiya aur apna sneh diya.

        Waise aap nahi samjhoge kyun aapne apne hi ancestors ka dharam chhod kar kisse arab lootere ki jamaat mein jo chale gaye ho. Jinhone aapke purvajo mein se kisi mahila ka balatkar kiya hoga ya phir jabardasti shaadi ki hogi aur apne haram mein shamil kiya hoga, aap toh unke hi ghulam ban gaye ho na.

      • SDC says

        Upar ke comments ka reply yaha de raha hun aasha karta hun ke aapko pasand aayengi.

        Waise arabon ka mut piye bagair toh aapke din ki bhi shuruwat nahi hoti na. Suwar khaya karo kam se kam woh toh apne deshwasiyon ka hi guh khata hain na.

        Hindu toh bhole hote hain, lekin mawali muslim toh mooti buddhi ke hote hain, pata nahi kyun ek pagal, balatkari ke baat mein aa jate hain.

      • shravak says

        (only for Nadir)
        @Nadir harami

        Aa gaya apni auqat pe, mawali ki aulad, madrasse ki gandi nali ke keede.
        Raj ji ke prashno ke uttar dene ke bajay tu ab abhdrta par aagaya. Arbo ki chatne ke alawa tumne seekha kya hai? Apni amma behen ke balatkariyon ki toh tareef karta hai tu, ja beta wahi reh HARAMIYON ki jamaat mein, pata nahi kitni baar shaikho ko bech kar aaya apni behen. Dusre ke baap ko chod, apne baap ke baare mein soch mawali.

      • raj.hyd says

        mahamahim shri up rasul nadir ji ,ap hamare prashno ka uttar to de nahii pate ! lekinapko hamare pita ji ki jyada chinta hai to ham apko hi iski jimmedari de dedete hai ki ap hi unka DNA test kar lijiyega , tab apko jyada vishvas bhi ho jayega jo uski riport mile usse hamko bhi avgat kara dijiyega ! ashha karta hn ki aap hamara prastav manjur kar lenge ! ab aap batlaiye jab musllim mahilao ko ek svans me talaq -talaq-talaq dediya jata hai tab unke masum bachhon ko kaun palta hai , paida karne vala jyada achha hai ya jo palta hai vah jyada achha hai ? mujhe nah maloom ki apki sthiti isme kya hai ? up rasul ji , aap hamo jara sa bhi tang nahi kar payenge !

  41. DEVVRAT says

    (only for nadir)
    beta ache se pede likh ke aa uske bade bedi bedi batein kerna pehele tua tum hindu hi hote ho bade main muslim benaye jate ho,tumhara muhmmad kemine ki hamare bhagvan krishna se ker rehe ho krishn bhagvan ne besehara aurtuan se shadi ki thi na ki muhmmad kamine ki tereh zeberdusti apne bete ki biwi se rape kiya tha aur choti lediki se shadi ki thi.

  42. Siddhant says

    jaativaad ko badhava deta hai manusmriti aur kai anya granth jaise vishnu dharm,gautam dharam.bahut hi grahnit baate likhi hai jo maanvta ke khilaaf hain.saari kitaabo ko ban kar dena chahiye.

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