The last few months have seen a significant upsurge in interest towards Vedas in the cyberspace. The concept of universal brotherhood devoid of sectarian beliefs, rejection of blind faith in miracles as necessary to be spiritual, as well as view that religion and science are one and same – seem to be what the modern world exactly demands. Thus, Vedas seem to offer what the world needs today.

A greater awe is derived from the fact that the very first texts of the mankind which elaborate on the very lessons whose surface is barely been scratched by so-called modern subjects like human-rights, gender-rights and democracy has been so immaculately preserved and protected that not only each alphabet but even its pitch remains unchanged since its inception. Please refer http://agniveer.com/2697/why-vedas-cannot-be-changed/ for a glimpse of this.

The rise of Vedic movement has also brought to fore a series of misleading allegations being propagated by those who refuse to accept that all humans – regardless of their beliefs – can be blessed by the Supreme, or those whose blood boils at very mention of life being anything beyond a chemical reaction. This does not come as a surprise especially when we have even a ‘Flat Earth Society’ today or die-hard believers in ‘Moon being split into two by a human finger some 1400 years ago’.

One old time allegation that has emerged again after a long gap is that different versions of Rigveda have different number of mantras. Earlier, the allegation was propounded by atheists or evangelists. But this time the allegation is driven by those

– who cannot digest the fact that a book that is considered divine can actually recommend that God/ Ishwar/ Allah does not punish anyone merely because he or she does not believe in Him or even His book.

– who find it rebelling to support a book that says that men and women have equal rights and opportunities and in fact women education is even more critical for the society.

– who cannot accept that a divine book can assert that blind belief is cause of miseries and hence even that book should not be believed blindly.

– who cannot accept that a divine book recommends simply adherence to truth to best of one’s intent and enhancing knowledge through noble actions as only criteria for being spiritual EVEN IF that goes against the dictates of that book itself in short run.

– who cannot accept that a divine book can be a book of best practices rather than a book that threatens those who do not adopt it blindly.

In this article, we shall analyze this allegation of different versions of Rigveda having different number of mantras and show that it does not hold any water. However we would also like to add that even if one is able to prove that there are minor aberrations in so-called different versions of Vedas, that does not make Vedic Dharma less relevant. Because the essence of Vedic Dharma would still remain valid – to accept truth, seek truth proactively and reject falsehood/ blind belief. When Vedas don’t demand one to blindly believe in the book and stop applying one’s brains, and in fact caution against such an approach in first place, this allegation loses its steam completely. A rough analogy would be that someone claims that CBSE is not a useful Board for education right from Class 1 to Class 12 because two pages of its maths book for class 11 have printing errors!

Having said that we would like to state that our Rishis were genius enough to devise ways to protect the wisdom of Vedas in most perfect manner. And thus, in reality there is only one version of Rigveda that exists. There may be printing or proof-reading errors in some of the published versions. But there is complete unanimity on more than 10,000 mantras of Rigveda being the same ones since ages.

This is true that different scholars have enumerated different number of mantras in Rigveda. For example,

Shaunakiya Anuvakanukramani – 10580 and 1 Paada

Chhandasankya Parishishta – 10402

Riksarvanukramani Commentrator Jagannath – 10552

Charanvyuh Commentraror Mahidas – 10552

Venkatmadhav – 10402

Swami Dayanand Saraswati – 10589

Prof MacDonald – 10442

etc.

All of these calculations are largely correct (except perhaps minor errors and omissions). The difference in number appears merely because in difference in calculation approach. Let us understand how.

Note: The words Mantra or Richa are used interchangeably here and imply a verse of Vedas – Rigveda in current context. Also note that even the verses from various branches or shakhas or Vedas are called Mantras for ease of convenience. But since Shakha represents a variation from original Veda Samhita or collection of Vedic Mantras, the verses of a shakha that differ from original Vedas are not technically Mantras. So from a conventional sense, a verse in Vedas or its branches is called a Mantra or Richa.

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In Rigveda there are several mantras which are considered to be comprising 2 Paadas (Dwipada or couplet) or sometimes comprising 4 Paadas (Chatushpadas or quadruplet). Paada means one portion of the verse. For a shloka, each line of shloka represents one Paada.Dwipada and Chatushpada Mantras

Now in Rigveda, there are 157 Dwipada Richas or mantras. Of these, 17 Dwipadas are Nitya Dwipada or permanent Dwipada. Other 140 Dwipadas are temporary (Naimittika). These 140 Dwipadas are actually 140/2= 70 Chatushpada Richas.

In Brahman texts, these mantras are used as Dwipadas during Yajnas by reciting Dwipadah Shansati. Yaska also mentions these mantras as Dwipadas in Nirukta 10.21 (oldest text on Vedic definitions).

The Paribhasha (Definitions) Chapter of Riksarvanukramani mentions : Dwirdwipadastvrichah Samaamananti. Shadgurushishya explains it as “Richoadhyayane”.

In simple language, during learning phase, the student should practice by making one Richa out of 2 Dwipadas or couplets. In other words, combine 2 Dwipadas to make 1 Chatushpada. By “Samaamananti” it is implied that during post-Yajna prayers, 2 Dwipadas DO NOT mean 1 Richa.

To give an example, the “Pashva na Taayum” sukta of Rigveda 1.65 is considered to have 10 Richas during post-Yajna prayers. But during education phase, one considers the sukta to have 5 Richas.

Sayanacharya writes in his commentary of Rigveda 1.65 that the 1.65-70 suktas are Dwipada but are studied as Chatushpada during education. If a sukta has odd number of Dwipadas, then the final Dwipada is studied as Dwipada itself. Even the meanings of Dwipadas are very close. However during Yajna or application, each Dwipada is considered separately during prayers.

Thus Ashwalayan Shraut 8.12 (a text on Yajna rituals) considers Rigveda 1.65 as Dwipada.

Mahidas, commentator of Charanvyuh also writes that during Havan, each Dwipada is recited separately but during study period, two Dwipadas are recited together.

Charanvyuh lists the 140 temporary Naimittika Dwipadas. The 17 permanent or Nitya Dwipada are also listed in Upalekha Sutra 6.1-2.

Riksarvanukramani

Riksarvanukramani enumerates 10552 Richas in Rigveda considering these 140 Dwipadas as Dwipadas themselves which is same as that enumerated by other scholars ignoring errors and omisions.

Ignoring the 80 mantras of 11 Balakhilya Sukta which are not considered by Shaishiri branch of Rigveda, we have 10472 Richas. Riksarvanukramani author Katyayana lists both these numbers in his text.

(Note: Today, only the original Rigveda is available and all the branches or shakhas have gone extinct due to centuries of misrule. We shall discuss the concept of branches in slightly more detail in a future para. However all should know that Rigveda 8.49 to 59 are called Balakhilya Suktas. They are part of the original Vedas but not considered in some of the branches aka variations in original Rigveda Samhita propagated by Rishis for better understanding. As we shall later see, when Anuvakanukramani was written, Shaishiri branch of Rigveda was very popular. It was a minor variation of original Rigveda and omitted Balakhilya Suktas. Thus based on that, Riksarvanukramani lists calculations including and excluding Balakhilya Suktas.)

The same is stated as true by Jagannath, the commentator of Riksarvanukramani as well as Mahidas, commentator of Charanvyuh.

Chhandasankhya Parishishta

This text is not available in complete form. But from whatever is available, the 11th Shloka states that:

“Evam Dashasahasrani Shatanam Tu Chatushtayam Richam Dwayadhikamakhyatamrishibhistatvadarshibhih” meaning:

The Seer Rishis have stated the number of Richas in Rigveda as 10402.

(The previous 10 shlokas of this text break these Richas in different Chhandas – Gayatri 2451, Ushnik 341, Anushtubh 855, Brihatee 181, Pankti 312, Trishtup 4253, Jagatee 1348, Atijagatee 17, Shakvaree 19, Atishakvaree 9, Ashti 6, Atyashti 84, Dhriti 2, Atidhriti 1, Ekapada 6, Dwipada 17, Baarhatapragaath 194, Kakubha Pragaath 55, Mahabarhat Pragath 1)

Note: If you add these up, it does not match with 10402. This is because Pragraath Chhandas are considered Dwricha. This is clearly mentioned in the 9th shloka of this text as well. Thus these 194+55+1=250 Pragaath = 500 Richas. This is also explained in Paribhasha Chapter or Definitions Chapter of Riksarvanukramani as well as Ashtadhyayi 4.2.55 (So Asyaadiritichhandansah Pragaatham). Making this adjustment, the numbers match.

Now, if we count 70 Chatushpadas to be actually 140 temporary Dwipadas, we will have to add 70 to this number which gives 10472. Adding 80 mantras from 11 Balakhilya Suktas that is not considered in Shaishiri Shakha (branch), we get 10552 mantras which is same as that provided by Riksarvanukramani.

Note: Each Veda has different Shakhas or branches which are variations of the original Mantra Samhita. These variations were devised by sages for a variety of reasons – to bring minor changes (addition, deletion and modification) in language and content to make them easily approachable by people with certain way of thinking, to focus on specific themes, to add with specific experiences and stories etc. Thus each of these traditions of variations including the original Samhita is called a Shakha or the branch. Of all these, the original Samhita is most widespread and preserved most meticulously. Thus, while most of the Shakhas have been lost or their manuscripts burnt by invaders in the long period of of misrule, the original Samhitas are still well-protected. Even UNESCO has acknowledged this wonder. Refer UNESCO PORTAL where it lists Rigveda as the first literary documents in the history of humankind.

Venkatmadhav

Venkatmadhav has written two commentaries on Rigveda. In commentary of the abridged commentary of Ashtak 5 Adhyaya 5, he writes that: “I counted 10402 Richas in Vedas including Dwipadas. When I counted Dwipadas separately I found 10480 Richas.

Now 10402 Richas is in lines with other authorities (10402 + 70 (Dwipadas) + 80 (Balakhilya Mantras)) = 10552.

But 10480 does not match with calculations. The cause of this error by Venkatmadhav was that instead of adding 70 for 140 temporary Dwipadas, he added 78 for 157 temporary + permanent Dwipadas. Thus he got 10480 Richas excluding Balakhilya Suktas.

If we adjust for this error, we find that all scholars reach up to same number of Richas because they all were looking at the same Vedas.

Anuvakanukramani

Shaunak in his Anuvakanukramani mentions about number of Richas in Rigveda in two different places.

In shlokas 40,41,42 he details number of Richas in each of the 9 Varga categories. Here he reaches the number of 2006 vargas and 10417 Richas. He mentions that this is for Shaishareeya branch/ shakha of Shakal Samhita (the original Rigveda). (Taan Parane Shakale Shaishareeye Vadanti)

The additional 15 Richas is due to difference in shakha as mentioned by Shaunak himself.

He further writes that Rigveda has 10580 Richas and 1 Pada. But he uses words “Paaranam Samprakeertitam” in the shloka implying that this is the total number of Richa if we consider all different ways of recitation or in other words this is the union of total Richas in all Shakhas (branches) together and not of the original Samhita.

Almost similar shloka appears in Laugakshi Smriti that uses exactly the same words for entire shloka except ending it with “Paarayanavidhau Khalu” meaning ways of recitation. To further clarify, the next shloka clearly states that “Purvoktasankhyashchetu Sarvashakhoktasootragaah” or the number in previous shloka is for all the Shakhas together.

Yet another similar version of the shloka appears in Charanvyuha Parishishta.

Maxmuller edition of Rigveda and Dwipada Richas error

Maxmuller published the first printed version of Rigveda in 1873. This was a commendable task considering the efforts required to collate the mantras together from different Paatha Vidhis and proof-reading them. However certain serious errors, especially with regards to temporary Dwipada Richas remained in this edition. Most of the future scholars took Maxmuller version as a starting point and hence the errors continued to creep in their calculations.

In Maxmuller edition,

– the 60 temporary Dwipada Richas of 1.65-70 have been published as 30 Chatushpadas. Each Chatushpada has been counted as 1 mantra.

– In 5th Mandal, 24th Sukta, the 4 Dwipada Richas have been published as 2 Chatushpadas. However each Mantra has counted as 2. Thus after after Chatushpada, 1-2 is published as mantra numbers. After second Chatushpada, 3-4 is published as mantra numbers.

– The rest of the 76 temporary Dwipadas have been published as Dwipadas.

Maxmuller edited the original Rigveda and hence obviously included the Balakhilya Suktas. Thus the total number of Richas in his edition adds up to 10552 if we adjust for above three factors.

Today, almost all scholars refer to Maxmuller edition for their analysis. Apart from the above obvious discrepancies and a few minor typographical errors, this edition of Vedas is unanimously accepted as undisputed published form of the original Rigveda.

Swami Dayanand

Swami Dayanand never got into exact calculation of number of Rigvedic verses because he had more important priorities. His introduction to translation of Rigveda lists 10589 as number of Richas in Rigveda.

However when we add up the number of mantras in each Mandal provided in the same text, we get 10521 (1976+429+617+589+727+765+841+1726+1097+1754).

However there are several typographical errors in this calculation:

(The texts of Swami Dayanand have several errors and omissions arising because of two primary reasons – one, he had to rely on several other less competent people for writing of his works. Second, the publication technology was still primitive and Swami Dayanand had to publish his works under financially extreme situations. He was involved in a huge number of tasks in his life and hence such omissions do creep in his works. However, well aware of these possibilities, he on several occasions categorically summarized his overall stand and mentioned that even if what he has written is found to be against evidences, that should also be rejected.)

1. The number of mantras in 8.20 has been typed as 36 instead of 26. Thus the total number of mantras in this Mandala should be 1716 instead of 1726.

2. The number of Richas in 9th mandal is 11 less than the total of the suktas in that Mandal. Thus the right number of Richas in 9th Mandal is 1108 as per his own tables.

Adjusting for these two typographical errors, we get 10522 Richas. Now Swami Dayanand based his calculations on the Maxmuller edition that lists 60 Dwipada Richas as 30 Chatushpada Mantras.

So when we add 30 to this, we get 10552 Richas which exactly matches the calculations by other scholars.

The number 10589 mentioned in the text is a simple typographical error happening due to unclear handwriting in manuscript confusing 1 for 9 and 2 for 8 in Devanagari.

Thus, Swami Dayanand’s Rigveda also has 10522 Richas.

Prof Macdonald

Prof Macdonald has made some severe blunders in his analysis of Vedas. We shall not discuss those here. However with regards to number of Richas in Rigveda, he gives the number as 10442.

If we add 30 to this due to Maxmuller error mentioned above, we get 10472 Richas. Adding 80 Balakhilya Suktas we get 10552 Richas which match the actual calculations.

Pandit Satyavrat Samashrami

Pandit Satyavrat Samashrami states in his text ‘Aitareyalochan’ that Rigveda has 10522 Richas including Balakhilya Suktas. If we add 30 from Maxmuller error, we get 10552 which again matches the original calculations.

Conclusion

Many scholars – Maxmuller, Macdonald, Satyavrat Samashrami, Venkatmadhav have erred in listing the total number of verses in Rigveda due to the differential treatment accorded to Dwipada and Chatushpada Richas. However, if we adjust for these differences in our calculations, we find that Rigveda has one and only version that contains 10552 mantras or Richas. If we consider Dwipadas as Chatushpadas, then Rigveda has 10482 mantras.

In its longest history for any text available today, there has been alteration of not even a single syllable, alphabet or even pitch of pronunciation. Thus all the apparent differences in number of Richas is merely due to typographical errors, difference in Shakha or Dwipada/Chatushpada issue.

In reality, there is no difference right from A of Agnimeeley Purohitam of Rigveda 1.1.1 upto Susahasati (last word of Rigveda) and there is one and only one version of Rigveda.

This is a matter of great pride not only for Hindus or Indians, but every human being. Because Vedas belong to entire humanity and teach a religion of universal humanism that engulfs all thinking creatures (Manushya) regardless of their birth, caste, sect, rituals, color, gender in a fragrance of compassion, justice, rationality and honesty.

We conclude with the final mantra of Rigveda that summarizes the essence of all the 10552 mantras:

May our motivation and inspiration be same – welfare of all. May our hearts be same – with affection for all. May our mind be same – full of pure thoughts of selflessness and may we all continue to increase each others’ happiness together!

Om Shantih Shantih Shantih!

Peace for everyone and everything!

Reference: Research works of Pandit Yudhishthir Meemansak

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Supriya

Signifcance of chanting Mantra is explained in the answer to 16 th question
http://www.artofliving.org/in-en/wisdom-qa

Ashish B

Just for the record I am putting it here the total no. of mantras in Vedas accordingly.

RgVeda – 10552
YajurVeda – 1975
SamVeda – 1875
AtharvaVeda – 5977
Total – 20379 mantras in all four Vedas

Tariq

^^^^^ Is that what you have got?
escaping from the discussion by bringing red herrings in between??

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please refute the above claims

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please read the above article properly it will unfold your questions as well as reference of puran’s are not accepted which is clearly stated in various discussion on this site.

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Namaste 108 eternal

sharing my bookmarks on Aryan invasion myth

good landing page- http://www.archaeologyonline.net/artifacts/aryan-invasions.html

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bharatvani-org /books/ait/

how when aryan invasion theory failed the pseudo historians renamed it as aryan migration 🙂 )
wikinfo-org /index.php/Aryan_invasion_theory

indiansrgr8-blogspot-com /2010/11/myth-of-aryan-invasion.html

Vajra

Namaste Brother Indian Agnostic

Thanks for sharing such a great source on Aryan Invasion myth.

What else these days, look busy?

Indian Agnostic

Namaste Brother Vajra

yes,was sort of busy .. now relatively relaxed

hope to join the action now 🙂

108Eternal

Namaste brother.

I’m truly speechless.

Thank you so much, both you and brother Vajra, for helping me on such short notice. This site is truly great. 🙂

108Eternal

Namaste.

Can someone please debunk the aryan invasion hoax or provide a reliable article that does. A quick response will be truly great.

Thanks in advance. 🙂

Indian Agnostic
108Eternal

This is for a debate I’m currently having with some people who believe in this hoax, by the way.

Vajra

Namaste Brother 108Eternal

Is it possible for you to invite them on Agniveer? Please do it and rest assured 🙂

108Eternal

Actually it’s a debate on a forum, brother. So I don’t think I will be able to.

But these people are just people who are genuinely misinformed. They aren’t jihadis or christian missionaries.

So any help you can provide will be truly helpful. 🙂

Thanks in advance.

108Eternal

Btw, I already explained to them the meaning of the word ‘Arya’ and the how Vedas are dated to 1.97 billion years (thereby predating the aryan invasion hoax which states that Vedas were introduced to Bharat around 1500BC).

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Excellent analysis.
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Poor things
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@ Namaste Arshad Nawaz Bhai Bhai Kuran me likha hai ki Allah ke bhi hath per hai aur wo sab jagah nahi hai Aur wo bhi khata, Pita hai aur Aaram karata hai Iska Udaharan Mai Deta hu jo ki Kuran se hai. Kripya Padh lena aur Kuran se check… Read more »
Arshad Nawaz
Dear brother truthseekar pahle main apka jawab deta hun phir raj bhai ka dunga. apne jo quran se hawal diya sahi hai par ap uska matlab galat samajh baithe hain. quran 7:54 urdu tarjuma. “Beshak tumhara rab ALLAH hai jisne paida kiye asman aur zameen, 6 din men phir qarar… Read more »
raj.hyd
manniy arshad ji , khuda ji jab kuran me yah kahate hai ki “kun ” ho ja ! vah ho jati hai ! tab 6 din bhi kyo lage ? fir kisse kaha ?jab kuch bhi nahi tha tab kuan khuda ji ki bat sunne vala tha ! jara yah… Read more »
truthseeker
@Arshad Nawaz Bhai Tumane shayad dhyan se nahi padha Yaha par Istawa (rose over) bhi aaya jiska matlab hai ki wo ye sab banaakar apni kurshi par beth gaya. Iska matlab hai ki wo bhi bethtaa hai, khadaa hota hai jiska matalab hai ki uske bhi hath per hai. Aur… Read more »
raj.hyd
kya allah “arsh “par hai” farsh” par nahi hai ! agar uska din hajar sal ka hai to usne spasht kyo nahi kiya? yah sab apke upar kyo chod diya ? agar uska din hajar sal ka hai tab ramjaan ka mahina kareeb 30 din kyo mana jaaye v bachhe… Read more »
truthseeker
@Arshad Nawaz Carry on from above Bhai Mujhe to lagta hai ki Kuran Kisi Kafir ne Muhamad Sahab ke name se likhi hai aur Kaba Pthar ki building or Pthar ki Masjid ke samne sir jhukane ka order diya hai. Aur Jakir Naik jaise kafir Isko jhipane ke liye excuses… Read more »
Arshad Nawaz
Bhai truthseekar apko islam ke parti bahut badi galatfahmi hai. 1- muslim kaba ki puja nahi karte ye 1 simt yani ki direction hai taki dunya ke tamam muslim 1 disha men hokar ALLAH ki ibadat karen. 2- muslim masjid ko nahi poojte ham masjid ke andar jakar ALLAH ki… Read more »
truthseeker
@ Arshad Bhai Hame Islam, Hindu sab ko thhik karna hai. Jesaaki vedo mai hai. jaise ki Vedo ka God use kisi pagmber, ki jarurat nahi padati. Aur uski prathana me kisi pagamber ka nam bhi nahi liya jata jo ki asli tohid hai na ki Kuran ka Allah. Vedo… Read more »
Arshad Nawaz
Bhai truthseekar ham sirf naam lete hain muhammad s.a.w. ka na ki unki ibadat karte hain. aur beshak agar ALLAH agar aisa karne ko na kahta to ham nahi karte. par 1 bat ap aur ham jan len ki hum untna hi jan sakte hain jitna ALLAH chahta hai. ap… Read more »
raj.hyd
manniy arshad ji , bade ashchary ki bat hai ki ap yah bhi kahate hai ki ham 100 % lajikalyisliye muslim hai nahi bhai sahab ap muslim ke ghar me paida huye hai isliye ap muslim hai ! kuran ko mante hai v dimag bhi rakhte hai tab kyo nahi… Read more »
raj.hyd
manniya arshad ji ,” ek hi disha me” namaj kyo kari jaye isse koi labh bhi nahi hai kaba ek pattahar hai , fir usi disha me namaj kyo ? tasbih to har disha me ho jati hai , fir namaj kyo nahi ? namaj v ajaan me muhammad ka… Read more »
Arshad Nawaz
Bhai raj.hyd mujhe yehan apki reply deni pad rahi kyun pata nahi kyun mere comments ke elawa sabke comments ke neeche reply ka button hai he nahi anyway main apko ek example deta hoon man lijiye ap bahut bure kaam karte hain aur logon ko aur apne ghar walo ko… Read more »
truthseeker
@Arshad Nawaz Bhai Mai Allah ko Poojane ka method Jaanana Chaahta Hu. Qya Allah ko Pujne ke liya Kaba building ki taraf sir jhukaana Jaruri. Agar mai sir nahi jhukaata to qya me allah ko poojne wala nahi samajha jaunga. Qyoki bhai Mai hinduo aur Musmano ki tarah Pthar ke… Read more »
raj.hyd
manniy shri arshad ji , apne hamari baton ka pura uttar nahi dena chaha ! khair jo ap yahan udaharan de rahe hai vah pura galat hai ! pahala khuda ji ne apko ya ahamko paida nahi kiya ! agar paida kiya hota to uske gun [tasir, sifaat ] bhi… Read more »
Arshad Nawaz
Bhai truthseekar and raj bhai aplogon ne bhahut se question pooche. par iska koi hal nahi nikal raha hai. hamen agla question poochne se pahle 1 qes. par jabtak main aur ap dono sahmat na ho jayen tab tak 2 question na poocha jaye aur jab 1 ques par ham… Read more »
hardcorehindu
@ ARSHAD NAWAZ islam has its roots in trying to evolve out of Christianity. From the beginning Islam has been in favour of wars, rape, loot. No Islamic nation has prospered based on its intellect. If you see the evolving nations they are US (christianity majority), India (Hindu majority), China… Read more »
Arshad Nawaz
Bhai apko pata hai world men 172 ke aaspas countries hain jinmen 95 ke aaspas christian hain 70 ke aspas muslim aur baki ke 7-10 men hindu aur buddhist hain. ye exact nahi hai lagbhag. par isase ye nahi sabit hota ki christian sahi dharm hai ya muslim ya hunduism… Read more »
truthseeker

@ hardcorehindu

Great thinking you are real son of Maa Bharati carry on your noble work through electronic media & ground level.

hardcorehindu
@ arshad nawaz aapka question paper mein bhi solve karoonga.. Hinduism Islam ke bahut pehle evolve hua hai…shayaad 1000 varsh puraana.. in do religions mein differences hai…lekin common baatein bhi hei..jaise ishwar-allah. hindu sanyaasiyone iske baarein mein bahut pehle likha hai ki ishwar ne yeh srushti banaayi. mohammed sahab ne… Read more »
THE HINDU
pandit ji men bhi aapka qustion paper solve karna chahta hun:- 1.agar aap iswar ko allah kah rahe hain to ye manne me koi harj nahi ki hum sabko iswar ne banaya hai ,aur iswar ki batenn sirf sridha ka vishay hain laboratory men ,ya kitabon se sidh karne ki… Read more »
Arshad Nawaz
Truthseekar bhai and Raj bhai sabse pahle to main apke naam janana chahunga agar aap batana chahen. aur ap dono logon ne bahut se question pooche aur mujhe ye dekh kar bahut khushi hui. lekin itne sawal ke jawab dene men waqt zyada lagege kyun ki ap 2 log question… Read more »
Rajesh
No other book can come closer to Vedas but unfortunately most of Hindus are not aware of the messages of Vedas. Agniveer is doing tremendous work to spread the messages and knowledges of Vedas. Quran and Bible nowhere stand in front of Vedas . Problem with muslims are that they… Read more »
Arshad Nawaz
Assalam-u-Alaikum brothers and sisters apas men ek dusre ko ya mazhab(dharm) per ulta seedha bolne se koi fayda nahi isase wo log jinko zyada knowledge nahi wo mazahib ko bura bhala kahenge. ALLAH ne humsabko ashraf-ul-makhlookat yani ki har species men sabse badhchadh kar banaya hai aalogo ko agar Islam… Read more »
hardcorehindu

@ Arshad Nawaz

Namaskar, maine note kiya hai aap kabhi is mahmood ke baarein mein kyun nahin likhte…shaayad aap bhi ussi ki tarah ek non-muslim ho. ek terrorist ho…

Shankar bhagwaan aapko sochne ki shakti de…..om namah shivaaya

Indian Agnostic
Namaste Arshad Nawaz apas men ek dusre ko ya mazhab(dharm) per ulta seedha bolne se koi fayda nahi isase wo log jinko zyada knowledge nahi wo mazahib ko bura bhala kahenge. Mein bhi aapki is baat se ittefaq rakhta hun.Bina subooton’ aur scriptures ka hawalaa diye ool-jalool ilzaam lagane se… Read more »
Arshad Nawaz
Dear brother main apki baat se sahmat hoon. kahne ko to kuch bhi hota hai main nahi janta ki Dr. Zakir Nayik ke bare men log kya kahte hain lekin wo jo bhi kahte hain apni taraf se kuch bhi nahi kahte wo sirf Quran and Hadees se hawala de… Read more »
raj.hyd
manniy arshad ji ,ham apki “dawat ” ko kabul karna chahenge ! agar apko tqklif n ho to batlaye ki sarvshaktiman kahalane vale khuda ji ke “dono hath ” kyo the ?[dekhiye kuran 38/75] kuch muslim khuda ji ko nirakar hone ka dava karte hai , agar khuda ji nirakar… Read more »
THE HINDU

NAHI ALLAH KO TUMHARI ROOH PAHLE CHAHIYE AUR TUMHE BHI ALLAH KE SAMNE MURGA BANNA CHAHIYE AUR TUMHE WAHA BHEJNE ME HUM TUMHARI MADAD KARENGE.

THE HINDU

this was for mahmood only.

Mahmood
Sahmeless fellows you are using bad words well I am not going to use.Nellie massacre this is only one case but check 1000Yrs we have raped your women and daughters and sisters and culled your people and converted you . Still you feel proud of your false identity.Follow ISLAM or… Read more »
dharmayoddha
@mahmood exactly because of this allah brought me into this world to return favour on muslims ; exactly what you have been doing for 1000 years, we do for next 5000 years. Now it is your mothers, sisters, daughters, and culling is a two way process, and you better convert… Read more »
hardcorehindu

@mahmood

this time its our turn..dont worry we wont rape, loot. we will only kill. we r hindus.

identity crisis

@hardcore hindu

man after my own heart.

Jai shri ram

Totagoto
So you have proved that islam allows raping of kafirs. here is a hadith for you Curse the Kafir And the Jews say: The hand of Allah is tied up! Their hands shall be shackled and they shall be cursed for what they say. Nay, both His hands are spread… Read more »
Totagoto
Mahmood Jehadi, //Sahmeless fellows you are using bad words well I am not going to use.Nellie massacre this is only one case// CHECK what your demonic islam teaches: Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu’minin: The Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) used to setup a pulpit in the mosque for Hassan… Read more »
raj.hyd
pakistan me kitne rep hote hai ! jara yah bhi pata kar lijiye ! muhammad ji ne kitne rep kiye isko bhi pata kar lijiye !akhir rep kisko kahana chahenge ? aysha ji 6 sal ki umr me usko apni patni banne ki ichha rakhna ise ap kya kahenge ?… Read more »
KalBhairav

@Mahmood:

Yawn…I am going to watch cricket match…Bye.

Sameer

MOST BRILLIANT MUSLIM OF INDIA APJ ABDUL KALAM IS A STAUNCH RAM BHAKHT. Abdul Kalam has himself accepted this in an interview see below link

http://www.telugu365.com/veiwnews.php?newsid=4188&catid=5

See the below blog where muslim is spewing venom against Abdul Kalam because he is a supporter of Hinduism.

http://mohammadthalif.blogspot.com/2011/01/apj-abdul-kalam.html

Jagdish
SDC i agree. Neille and Gujarat events are necessary to show these muslim idiots that Hindus are not sleeping. Gujarat riot was started by muslim bastards in Godhra. And you will be happy to know Hindus and Buddhists of Chittagong Hill Tract kicked Bangladeshi Army for 25 years. Bangladesh wanted… Read more »
Rushmore

@ Tree Squirrel: Please give us an example where a Vedic verse that can be twisted anywhichway one wants. Please pick up a Mandala/Sukta/Hymn and substantiate your claim.

Folks: Mahmood is a troll that suffers from obsessive compulsive disorder. But Tree Squirrel is an interesting package.

Mahmood
Shame on you all and what Satya said is right at least one Hindu has brain and rest have shit. Brothers I have given you my video my address and still you have doubt,please do visit us on this sunday in same Church. Very funny you people are actually it… Read more »
truth seeker
@Mahmood Why pakistan & Afganistan people not united they are follower of Kuran & Shariya law. & pakistan helped the USA to attake in Afgnistan, Why there are daily Bomb explosion in Pakistan & killing their fellow brother. Why muslim countries did not assist Irak to fight against USA. All… Read more »
Arshad Nawaz
brother Truth seekar sabse pahle main apse ek baat poochna chahta hoon kya koi bhi dharm galat baat batata hai kya koi dharm kahta hai ki gali do, zulm karo, jhoot bolo, chori karo i think your answer will be no? to agar koi country muslim hai aur wahan ke… Read more »
THE HINDU
pandit arsad nawaj ji ek dharm hai jo jhoot bolna sikhata hai,dange fasaad karna sikhata hai ,jihaad sikhata hai aur nirdosh kafiron ki jaan lafange muslimon se sati samjhta hai, aur wo hai religion of piece ‘islam’. aur wo log jo fasaad kar rahe hain wohi wastav me islam ko… Read more »
Arshad Nawaz
brother Truth seekar sabse pahle main apse ek baat poochna chahta hoon kya koi bhi dharm galat baat batata hai kya koi dharm kahta hai ki gali do, zulm karo, jhoot bolo, chori karo i think your answer will be no? to agar koi country muslim hai aur wahan ke… Read more »
hardcorehindu

@ arshad nawaaz

aisa ek desh tha,,,,,bharat – hindustan jahaan koi dange nahin hote the….aur fir aaye yeh musalman barbarians….violent, rapists, looters…bastards….. sab najaayaz aulaad…uske baad saari duniya mein tabaahi machi hai..,…

dharmayoddha
hum hindu ko shayad pata nahi, par mussalaman bahut acchi tarah se jaante hai. ek samrat tha, temujin, jisko chengiz khan ke naam se jaana jata hai. Usne madhya asia (central asia ) me 12 sadi me itni tabahi machayi thi, jise yaad karke mussalman aaj bhi rote ahai. Madhya… Read more »
Vajra
Arshad Bhai Aap dil ke achchhe maaloom hote hain par na jaane kyon koi baat hai jis wajah se aap is dehshatgard Mahmood ko kuchh bhi nahi keh paa rahe. Is ne kai jagah likha hai ki Musalmaan fir se hinduon ko katl karenge aur unki auraton ko uthaayenge. Kam… Read more »
Arshad Nawaz
Bhai waise mujhe jitni knowledge hai main us hisab se answer dunga ho sakta hai mera koi jawab galat bhi ho sakta hai phir bhi main koshish karta hun. 1- ALLAH ne apko paida kiya ashraf-ul-makhlukat bana kar aur ala darje ke dimag ke sath bheja. ap sirf achche kam… Read more »
Vajra
Namaste Arshad Bhai Apki koshishon ke liye bahut shukriya. Lekin abhi aapke kisi jawab par main tab tak gaur nahi karunga jab tak aap is dahshatgard Mahmood ko gair Islami kah kar fatkaar nahi lagaate. Badi ajeeb baat hai ki aapne mere sabse pehle nukte par kuchh kahe bina aage… Read more »
Arshad Nawaz
Bhai Vajra mujhe kisi ko tokne ya na tokne se kya farq parta hai? and yehan per hindu ya muslim naam likh kar comment likhne se ko hindu ya muslim nahi ban jata baat ye aham hai ki aap kya sochte hain ya likhte hain and bro. kisi ko aise… Read more »
Vajra
Bhai Arshad ————mujhe kisi ko tokne ya na tokne se kya farq parta hai?———— To bhai aap humen kyon tok rahe hain? Agar Mahmood ko aap kuchh nahi kah sakte to hamaare saath kaun si dushmani hai aapki jo saari seekh hamaare vaaste hi hai? ————aur jahan tak mahmood ki… Read more »
Arshad Nawaz
Bhai halaki aap mujhe uksa rahen hain lekin apko aur jitne bhi non muslim bhai main unhe kuch bhi ulta seedha nahin kahunga ap chahe jo bhi samjhe islam men gali dena haram hai. and bro aap proov karo mahmood muslim hai phir main uske baare men kuch kahunga aur… Read more »
raj.hyd
“islam me gali dena haram hai ” ? aisa muslim hokar dava kar te hai ! ya jisne kuran padha? akhir yah bhi to batlaiye ki gali kisi kahate hai gali ka asar kya padta hai ?gali ki paribhasha kya hai ? kisi gali kaha jaye ?pahale is isko tay… Read more »
Vajra
Arshad Bhai ————islam men gali dena haram hai.———— 1. Quran Mushrikon ko jindon mein sabse gandi paidaish batata hai. Yah main dikha chuka hoon. To gaali galauch to bhai Quran khud hi karta hai. 2. Kisi ke ghar ghuskar use maarna aur ghar mein ghuse hue ko laat maar kar… Read more »
Arshad Nawaz
Vajra bhai vajra apne bahut se questions pooche hain per main apne apko itna qabil nahi samajhta ki main apki baton ka theek se jawab de sakoon main ek normal Islam ko manne wala hun aur choti moti galatfahmiya dur kar sakta hun Mashah ALLAH Ap kaafee zaheen lagte hain… Read more »
SDC
Asshole Mahmood, you forget one thing and that is when hindus unite, the muslims shit in their pants. For you kind information, go and check up the Nellie massacre in the google. We in the RSS will at least go down fighting and killing a few assholes like you no… Read more »
hardcorehindu

@ Mahmood

Remember Godhra u son of a b****

Hindus will now never go down in future….they will cut and kill muslims….shivaji maharaj ki jai….

Satya

SDC we need more of Nellie incidents to clean our land from Bangladeshi Muslim scum otherwise our ASSAM AND BENGAL WILL BECAME PART OF BANGLADESH and Assamese and Bengali Woman will at the mercy of these Bangladeshi Muslims.

SDC

I concur

Vik
@Mahmood idiots like you should know that 99% of the muslims in the world do not know arabic and even the english translations of the Quran they have right now, no maulana agrees them to be 100% close to the true interpretation. Forget all these, take Naik for example, he… Read more »
Bangladeshi Hindu

Look at the hate of this Indian muslims towards Hindus. Then imagine what is the position of Hindus living in Pakistan and Bangladesh.

Satya
Bangladeshi Hindu Brother is right MAHMOOD AND T. SHAIKH represents common muslim psyche of Indian Muslims they want to ELIMINATE HINDUS IN INDIA AND IMPOSE SHARIA IN INDIA. The Muslims of WEST BENGAL, ASSAM, UP AND KERALA SUFFER FROM THIS PSYCHE. BENGAL AND ASSAM WILL BECOME PART OF BANGLADESH IN… Read more »
Indian Agnostic
Namaste Satya The problem in my opinion is not muslims or secularism .The problem lies in the hateful teachings of the Quran and it’s literal interpretation and practice by muslims as the final unchangeable word of God. The biggest problem of Islam is it’s refusal to reform itself.It can’t bend… Read more »
Totagoto
the leftist regime has completely uprooted the law & administration of west bengal . prior to 1977 the congress govt used to maintain the law & order of west bengal , now a days it’s lies in the point of no return . so we need to revive bac…k the… Read more »
Tree Squirrel

You are so lucky that Vedas can be twisted in anyway and made compatible with anything. What is the guarantee that this person Mahmood is a Muslim and not one of you people commenting witha Muslim name?

KalBhairav
@Tree Squirrel: What is the guarantee that this person Mahmood is a Muslim and not one of you people commenting witha Muslim name? Yes, we dont know. That is why Poe’s law was instituted. If you cannot differentiate a parody of a fundamentalist and an actual fundamentalist, the joke is… Read more »
Rushmore

Man, I love your response Kal Bhairav….

Vajra
Namaste Tree Squirrel Please visit http://agniveer.com/2623/islam-will-not-be-a-threat-if/ and give your opinion on the 10 points raised there. As soon as you comment there, all of us will know whether you believe Islam to be peaceful religion really or you too have any hidden Mahmood inside your heart 🙂 and also that… Read more »
Indian Agnostic
Namaste Tree Squirrel You are so lucky that Vedas can be twisted in anyway and made compatible with anything I am not a vedic scholar and as my nick clearly indicates , i am an agnostic.I more a fan of Truth, Humanity and spirituality than of any book. Having said… Read more »
Mahmood
All So atonishing that you all got afraid and one to the extent where he mentioned report to police.We are not doing anything wrong.We are doing openly Police,Soniya Ji and all are with us. Please do not distribute this encrypted book called Vedas.Whom this agniveer also doesn’t know. Moreover It… Read more »
hardcorehindu

@ Mahmood – Try visiting a psychiatrist. Looks like u r the rebirth of the rapist,looter,stinker,sex-maniac prophet. stop day dreaming, recomversions will prevail and islam will leave india before even u know…wtf r u doing in a church by the way? getting ur …. rammed by someone daily?

Rushmore

@ Mahmood, try trolling something else. Your brain is so stunted that you are unable to go beyond MMS and Madamme…Happy trolling….

Rushmore
Agniveer is right about the finality of the count of 10,552 mantras. While some written down versions may have mantras that are more or less as indicated in the post, I wish to give a Manadala / Sukta wise break up. Mandala Sukta Number of Mantras M1 191 2006 M2… Read more »
Agniveer

Perfect Rushmore! This is the final calculation that is no more debated among scholars.

Rushmore
And Agniveer, I’d also like to add the scholar’s “personal” opinion. When I probed about the multiple versions (of total mantras) in various works, he simply shot back saying that printing the Vedas or writing down the Vedas was preciesly why many consfusions occur with the final number of mantras.… Read more »
Indian Agnostic

Perhaps, we can all him as someone belonging to the old world but apparently he seems to have a valid point

The Shruti indeed corroborates what the learned scholar said regarding वाक

चत्वारि वाक परिमिता पदानि तानि विदुर्ब्राह्मणा ये मनीषिणः |
गुहा तरीणि निहिता नेङगयन्ति तुरीयं वाचो मनुष्या वदन्ति ||

Apolloreach
I@ A, that was an interesting verse you have quoted. The unicode NON COMPLIANT issues in my system are not showing the verse in full, but to me, it looks like Rig Veda 1.164.45. That one verse has a double principle. At one level it may look like it is… Read more »
Indian Agnostic

Namaste @Apolloreach

It’s indeed RV 1.164.45 ( and your explanation is illuminating!)

Vak- the more i try to study it’s nature the more it reveals and as much it hides…Hats off indeed to the Rishis who could transcend this barrier

Believer In The Absolute
Believer In The Absolute

Brother can u please elaborate on this .I am able to understand but still i am not clear.What is this VAK ?

Saurav
Namaste I read the article and it is very good. I have few questions. When you refer to the text of Swami Dayanand Ji having 26 mantras in Rigveda 8.24. I was just checking it. But i found that it has 30 mantras, not 26. So the calculation will change.… Read more »
Agniveer

Thanks for pointing that out. It was some typo error in almost same lines that affected calculation of Swami Dayanand. They have now been corrected. First, Its 8.20 that has 26 mantras and not 8.24. Second, 6th Mandal has 765 mantras instead of 735 that was mistyped.

Dhanyavad

108Eternal

My previous comment was directed at brother Rushmore by the way. The comment got messed up :P.

Rushmore
Friends, The one that need to be in mental asylums will keep telling you that the Islamic marauders had free lunch when they invaded India. But the truth is far from that. Our school textbooks too have been corrupted by the combination of Mullah/Commie/Victorian lies. To cut through the lies… Read more »
Bangladeshi Hindu

Mahmood,
one US missile is launched and thousands of muslim dies and mosques are vandalized. Allah is tearing his hair above 7 skies.haha

Rushmore
@ Kal Bhairav: Islam need not be banned. It will run its course into oblivion. We only need to hasten this self destructing process, earnestly. Iranians are at the forefront of abandonig Islam,especially the young generation. Indians are wanting to gloss over Islamic atrocities and shy away from such discussions… Read more »
KalBhairav

@Rushmore:

Islam need not be banned. It will run its course into oblivion.

Indeed. Free thinking human beings endowed with a discerning and discriminating brain will sooner or later see the stupidity of Islam and junk it en-masse. No need of any state/government-forced ban.

Rushmore
Folks, Mahmood (above) is just one of the millions that have thrown away the keys of intelligence in the zam zam waters. In truth islam was invented to overcome the stigma of Arabs having a lineage to a poncubine of Abraham. Here is how…According to the Judeo/Christian teachings Arabs are… Read more »
KalBhairav
@Rushmore: Indeed! Actually, sometimes I pity present-day Muslims. It is not like centuries ago their ancestors had the Vedas, Bhagavad Gita, Siva Puranam, Vishnu Puranam, Yogasutras, Brahmasutras, and millions of other beautiful Hindu thoughts on one side and Quran/Hadith (that too, only certain versions of these that the invading maurauders… Read more »
Rushmore
@ Mahmood: While you guys broke Somnath temple, we had the tenacity to rebuild it everytime. The temple stands even today and it is a testimony to our conviction. And unlike Turkey or Persia or Central Asia Islamization was never complete and it will never be achieved. I am reconverting… Read more »
Arya Musafir

@Rushmore

Namaste Brother

Great replies! Please check your email.

Rushmore

@ Arya: Thanks for your email. Sent you some stuff. See all the content and some may come handy. Sent you a suggestion or two too.

dharma_thug

If at all terrorist Mahm00d Bhai’s forefather’s could afford some Jijiya.

Rushmore
Define irony, a Muslim eating out of the hands of a represtative of the Vatican and calling Hindus enuchs. You need the support of a Xtian lady to forward your desert agenda. The Xtian forefathers of your MADAME kicked your rear in the crusades but you seem to take pride… Read more »
Satyen

Very inspiring but remember the Chanakya words, ” Never disclose your schemes before you have accomplished your goal”. The Jehadis exactly want to know what you are doing to checkmate us.

Ohm Shantih.

Satyen

The generations to come and History will revere you for the efforts you are putting to the obvious cause.
I salute too.

Ohm Shantih.

108Eternal

Namaste brother.

Your work in spreading Sanatana Dharma is truly great. You’re really helping these people in Iraq and Iran who have been oppressed so much from the barbaric, illogical cult that is islam, to realise Truth.

Dhanyavaad for your work brother. You are a great role model to us all!

Sameer
Rushmore Brother Great Info, Islam is collasping this was also shown in NO.1 Muslim Channel AL-JAZEERA more than 6 million muslims are converting to islam every year and another 1 million in France alone if calculate the whole of Europe it will be very big number. Muslim invaders were able… Read more »
Sameer

Typo error, really it is 6 million muslims to christanity every year.

roger

good goin, rushmore.

Indian Agnostic

Salutes!

Mahmood

Moreover you all are enuchs and cannot show your real face and name.This shows your cowardice.You can meet me in calculatta same church.Finally all enuchs run this website.

hardcorehindu

@ Mahmood

Seems like u have been screwed by eunuchs a couple of times….and that u r obsessed by the eunuchs. are you one urself? remember Godhra? that is what hindus now are….they will screw u upright..

KalBhairav
@Terrorist Mahmood: Last I know it was India that split Pakistan asunder in 1971. You can keep dreaming of a world-wide Caliphate. After all, unlike you guys, we Hindus dont feel the need to control everyone else’s thoughts and dreams. But in any case, continue to keep writing…I am sure… Read more »
Mahmood

You can see me in this video and do whatever you all can do.You might have seen on facebook 3 idiots too

Mahmood
All Well forget abt khan the truth is we conquered you all and India too,Please do visit us on youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZdf9hH0XNc We are openly doing this with help of congress and no one knows that once we are 30% we will overtake congress and will bring aurangzeb era to india.We… Read more »
SDC
Mr. Asshole Mahmood, I am a bengali myself, but the audio quality is bad, so could not make out much of what the f**k were you talking of. You want to meet me, come to Guwahati, and we will meet. I am an RSS karyakarta. Will cut you to pieces,… Read more »
Arshad Nawaz
Bhai kitne sharm ki baat hai ap kisko gali de rahen hain ek Muslaman ke ALLAH ko ya khud ke bhagwan ko ALLAH to 1 hai ye Quran bhi kahta hai aur Ved bhi. aur phir agar ap sache Hindu hain to apko sabr se kaam lena chahiye apka dharm… Read more »
hardcorehindu

@ Arshad Nawaz

Ask your muslim guy Mahmood to shut the f*** up… what r u talking about?

@ Mahmood
is baar to musalmaano ko kaat karr rakh denge…bahut ho gaya. agar maa ka doodh piya hai to samne aa…

roger
@Arshad Nawaz sharm ki baat toh aap jaise ‘dhongi shanti priya’ logon ke liye hi hai. jo fasad ki jad tak naa jaakar ul-jalool kisi pe bhi ilzam laga dete hain. Islami Aatankvaad aap jaise chadm-shanti priya logon ki vajah se hi phal phool raha hai. bade aaye hame lecture… Read more »
Arshad Nawaz
Bhai main bhi eent ka jawab pathar se de sakta hun lekin mera mazhab mujhe rokta aisa karne se. aisa karne se sirf nafrat failti hai na ki muhabbat mujhe behad afsos hai mera 1 hindu dost hai halaki maine use islam ki dawat di mashahallah wo kuch bato par… Read more »
roger
eenth ka kawab patthar se doge bhi kaise? Apka mazhab hi toh pehle eeth marna seekhata hai. 😉 Apki muhabbat ke toh hum(bharathvasi) takreeban 1000+ saal se kayal hai. apki muhabbat ne toh kai crore logo ki qurbaniya bhi le hai, abhi le bhi rahi hai. haan, dhong kon kar… Read more »
Arshad Nawaz
bhai mere 1 sawal ka jawab dene ka kasht karenge 1 agar 1000 sal se qurbaniyan lee ja rahin hain to abhi tak india men hindu bahusankhya kyun hai? Aur main ye bhi janana chahunga ki wo 1 crore kaun log hain gujrat ke log to nahin ya batla house… Read more »
SDC
Aapke sawalon ka jawab dena chahunga. Sabse pehle toh aap yeh jan le ke bharat kewal India hi nahi tha. Aryavrat aka bharat mein aaj ka pakistan, afghanistan, bangladesh, nepal, sri lanka, burma shamil the. Ab mein aapse puchta hu ke afghanistan, bangladesh, aur pakistan ke hindu kaha gaya? Unhe… Read more »
Arshad Nawaz
Bhai apne histnry thoda adhuri batai hai chaliye main apko batata hun India ko azad hue kitne saal hue? 63 year hai ki nahi? kya apko pata hai jab afganistan, pakistan, bangladesh jab 1 the tab kattar musalmano ne 300 saal tak hokumat ki aur us waqt democracy bhi nahi… Read more »
raj.hyd
jaise gujrat ki kahani ap yad kar lete hai ,lekin godhra ko bhul jate hai ! yah hai apka “sachha insaf ” ? kashmiri pandito ka nam lena bhi pasand nahi karte hai fir bhi apne ko bhartiy kahalana pasand karte hai vah to ap rahenge hai lekin mansikta se… Read more »
SDC
Waise aapke pass to baki sawaalon ke thik uttar toh nahi honge, main janta hun, phir bhi chaliye aapko main batana chahunga ki aap phir se bharat ki nahi modern India ki baat kar rahe hai aur ha modern India 63 saal pehle azaad hua. Usse pehle democracy nahi thi… Read more »
SDC
Bhaisahab, aapko selective blindness hai. Aapko Mahmood ke vichaaron par pehle gaur karna chahiye tha. Maine to sirf jawabi karwai ki hai. If I have hurt your feelings, then let me at the outset apologize for that. I have no intention of hurting anyone’s feelings, but if attacked, then it… Read more »
Vajra

Bhai Arshad

Sharm ki baat Mahmood ke liye nahi hai kya?

Quran mein kafiron ko Allah ki sabse ghinauni paidaish (worst of creatures) bataya gaya hai. Is par aap kya kahenge? Ye gaali nahi hai?

kewal pandita
@ ARSHAD NAWAAZ “Dr.Zakir Naik ne khula challegd diya hai ki dunya ka koi bhi shakhs islam ki 1 baat ko bhi galat sabit nahin kar sakta agar apmen hai qabliyat to unke is challange ko media ke samne todie Inshah Allah main wo pahla musalman hunga jo Apke is… Read more »
Arshad Nawaz

Bhai ap kahan ki baat kar rahen hain.
aur Quran kis ayat men ye hai?

aur bhai agar bura na mane to kya main puch sakta hun ap kis khuda ke tassawar men yakeen rakhte hain
1 ya anek?

Vajra
Arshad Bhai 1. Mahmood ke baare mein aapki rai? 2. Quran ke 98 sure ki 6th ayat mein yah likha hai ki kafir Allah ki banayi hui sabse ghinauni paidaish hai. 3. Main ek Eeshvar mein Vishvaas rakhta hoon. Uske saath kisi ko shareek nahi karta jaise Musalmaan bhai Muhammad… Read more »
Arshad Nawaz
Bhai apka teesara sawal bahut hi achcha aur mujhe khushi hogi iska jawab dene men bhai koi bhi musalman kabe ki pooja nahi karta hai kaba ek simt/rukh hai ham log kabe ka twaaf yani ki chakkar lagte hai wo ye isliye kyun ki hum 1 ALLAH men yakeen karte… Read more »
Vajra
Arshad Bhai 1. Pehle sawaal ka kya bana? 2. Kaba ki sachchai jaanne ke liye http://agniveer.com/1685/kaba-or-idol-worship/ padh len. Us par jo baatcheet hamaari Musalmaan bhaiton se ab tak hui hain, vo sab bhi padh lijiye. Aapke saare sawaalon ke jawab diye ja chuke hain. 3. Main ek Eeshvar/Allah ko maanta… Read more »
Arshad Nawaz

Bhai mere poorvaj bhale hi arab se na aayen ho par apko to khud ki hi history nahi maloon

arya log to khud arab se aaye the
ap history padh lo.

raj.hyd
hamara itihas hamare purvaj jo batlayenge vah hamare liye many hoga yah foot dalne ke uddeshy se angrej jo batlayenge vah many hoga ? ap kisko many karenge vah ap batlaye ? kya muhammad ji ki hadis me iska ullekh milta hai ? ki bhartiy sabhyta ko manne vale arabi… Read more »
Arshad Nawaz
Bhai phir to mujhe kahna parega ki ap waqai men 1 ishwar men yakin rakhte hain kyun ki ALLAH ne khud quran men kaha hai ALLAH 1 hai and muhammad s.a.w uske paigummbar hain. aur bhai apka kaun sa dharm hai ya ye kub wajood men aaya jahan tak main… Read more »
Arshad Nawaz

Sorry nahin choot gya
yani ki 1 ishwar men yakin nahi rakhte hain

Arshad Nawaz
Sabse pahle main apke pahle sawal ke jawab ki taraf jata hun bhai main mahmood ke bare men apni kya rai doon ap to aise kah rahen hain jaise main mahmood ko barso se janta hun. main yehan par sirf aur sirf Islam ke mutallik galat fahmiyon ko door karne… Read more »
Vajra
Arshad Bhai 1. Achchha ek baat bataaiye ki aapne Mahmood ko reply na karke SDC Bhai ko kyon reply kiya tha? Kya aap unhe barson se jaante hain? Islam ke baare mein galatfehmiyan kya mujhe aur SDC ko hain, Mahmood ko nahi? Agar haan, to aapne use kyon nahi samjhaaya… Read more »
Arshad Nawaz
Wo isliye bhai kyun ki sdc Bro. ne kisi aur ko nahi apne bhagwan ko hi gali de thi Us ALLAH ko jisne hamen paida kiya wo jo hamen jaise chahe jis tarah rakhe. aur rahi baat mahmood ki to beshak agar wo 1 muslim hai to use aisa bartaw… Read more »
the hindu

bhai maaf karna beech me bolne ke liye me anek iswar me bharosa karta hoo bataiye usme kya problem hai

Arshad Nawaz
bhai mujhe koi tention nahi hai. lekin apka Ved khud kah raha hai ki “na tasya partima asti” yaani ki bhagwan ki koi partima nahin hai aur 1 jagah kaha gya hai ki bhagwan sirf 1 hain sirf 1 sirf 1 aur wo log andhere men hain jo 1 se… Read more »
THE HINDU
thank you pandit arshad nawaj ji aap ne to mujhe vedon ka gyan de diya to phir to aap bhi vedon ko mante honge ,ved to iswar aur hamare beech kisi agent ko na lane ki baat bhi karte hain aur vedon ka iswar apne agent ke liye aurten bhi… Read more »
Totagoto

Agniveer please report this terrorist to police. this place is for intelectual discussions. not brainwashed hypnotized jehadies like you.

Totagoto
//We are openly doing this with help of congress and no one knows that once we are 30% we will overtake congress and will bring aurangzeb era to india.We will cull you all. See 30% we will be in next 10 yrs and then we have 15% Christains and other… Read more »
Rushmore
@ Mahmood: And please do not forget to tell your brothers that have khan as the last name this…Khan is not an Islamic last name. You guys owe it to Ghengis KHAN. He outbrutalized you guys in the way he slaughtered everybody in those towns that he sacked, He &… Read more »
Rushmore
@ Mahmood, he he he…like I mentioned elsewhere, you are part of the progeny of enslaved forefathers. It does not matter where you are from. Your caliph Muwaiah’s forces were kicked repeatedly.It was only after the neo converts from Turkey and Persia restarted the jihads did the desert dwellers cross… Read more »
Mahmood
Again holy crap.Why this confused book is recited by you all when no one can understand the encrypted book. Anyway after peace TV we are launching some more TVs in India from Sonia Gandhi Permission and already Swami Ramdev Channels have been banned.Soon he will be behind bars. Well you… Read more »
hinduagnostic

if we want very soon the whole indian subcontient will return to hinduism

sudarshan Sahoo
Hello Mr., U’ve gone blind under falsehood. Rig veda is the oldest religious volume on the earth standing aloft till date and will be guiding the mankind so long the sun and moon are in the sky. In no religion so much deep and details about God has been described… Read more »
dharmayoddha
@mahmood Quote,”Well you all without balls just stick to this place and we will wipe out your false demonic religion. Again same thins I will say Your Dharma/Religion is of Enuch and so you all are..” Unquote Well, tell me where to meet in combat, and then I will show… Read more »
roger
@Mahmood “Allah hoo Akbar,Yaa Khuda hum tere bande hein aur kafiro ko tere kadmo mein dalenge jinda warnah unki rooh tere paas bhejengein.” Woh ‘Muhammad’ kya tha jisne zulm se jeeta jahan, pyar se jeeten dilo ko woh jhuka de aasman moreover They may kill me, but they cannot kill… Read more »
roger

ty bro IA and sameer

I copied those lines from a song called ‘rote hue aate hai sab….’ from movie muqaddar ka sikander.

it was ‘woh sikander kya tha…’ i liked the message and used it accordingly. 🙂

btw…i loved your lines bro IA.

Sameer

Well Said Roger Brother

Indian Agnostic

Wah! Wah! Roger Bro

Woh ‘Muhammad’ kya tha jisne zulm se jeeta jahan,
pyar se jeeten dilo ko woh jhuka de aasman

jhooth aur nafrat ko jo satya se jhulsayega
Roger bro ki tarah wo Agniveer Kehlayega 🙂

Vik
@Mahmood you have trully proven yourself to be a perverted terrorist, after all you been following the Quran so what can be expected. You think we are scared of your stupid Aurengzeb eras, you are more than welcome to bring back your aurengzeb again, but remember, just like how your… Read more »
Totagoto

Jehadi Mahmood

Look how your jehadi brothers are shot to death by indian army.
http://www.indiablooms.com/NewsDetailsPage/newsDetails280311k.php

times over for islam

Totagoto

Sooner BJP AND RSS is coming to power and kick you and your jehadi and evangelist friends out of india. Pakistan and Bangladesh will be part of akhand bharat. jai hind

KalBhairav

@Terrorist:

Well you all without balls just stick to this place and we will wipe out your false demonic religion.

Spoken like the true spokesperson of Islam – the religion of “peace”.

Amit Dua

Brilliant and enlightening article.

Indian Agnostic

Namaste Agniveer Ji

Saadhuwad! Saadhuwad !

Agniveer Dig Vijaya 🙂

Salkia

Agniveer, you rock!

Bangladeshi Hindu

Excellent Response Agniveer. I will call you ‘dada’ as a bangali address to elder brother.

Mushafiq Sultan is a Jehadi from Kashmir. His ancestors were forcefully converted to demonic Islam. His favourite job is to lie about Vedic faith. Hope it will expose our lost faith.

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