In this article, we shall briefly analyze the research article by self-proclaimed expert on comparative religion, Dr Zakir Naik on “Concept of God in Hinduism”. You can review the original article by clicking here. This is his second article in this series. (The first was “Introduction to Hinduism” which we have already analyzed.)

The bulk of this article goes to provide evidences from Hindu texts that there is only one God. I sincerely thank Dr Naik for collecting these references at one place which are pride of not only Hindus but entire humanity.

But the motive of Dr Naik in putting this references was quite different. He starts his article falsely assuming that bulk of Hindus do not believe in one God. And then goes ahead to prove that this is wrong and Hindus should believe in one God only. In previous article, he has already planted seeds of doubts over Vedas and basis of Hinduism, and established importance of Bhavishya Puran. After this article, he would go for the final kill – by proving that Hindu scriptures talk of Prophet only and hence imply that Hindus should leave other texts and accept only Quran! You can review the rest of the articles in this site itself.

For present, we shall critically comment on the first part of his article on “Concept of God” and try to understand the true Hinduism and motives of this stage performer in process. As in previous article, I shall cite excerpt from Dr Naik’s articles followed by comments in bold italics.

Lets begin:

Dr Naik: “1.  Common Concept of God in Hinduism: Hinduism is commonly perceived as a polytheistic religion. Indeed, most Hindus would attest to this, by professing belief in multiple Gods. While some Hindus believe in the existence of three gods, some believe in thousands of gods, and some others in thirty three crore i.e. 330 million Gods. However, learned Hindus, who are well versed in their scriptures, insist that a Hindu should believe in and worship only one God.

Comment:
(1. English has only word God to mean All-mighty Omnipotent whom Hindus call Ishwar and other human-like creatures who act smart – like one who sends Angels, gets angry, sits on a throne or creates Heaven and Hell.

2. In Hinduism, the word to describe All-mighty Omnipotent is Ishwar. Thus Ishwar = God. But writers take God to mean Devata. Now Devata does not mean Ishwar. Devata means any entity – living or dead that gives us anything or benefits us. In English, I would call Devata to mean “Helper”.

3. While Vedas believe in one single Ishwar and 33 types of non-living Helper Devatas, even the average Hindu does not consider these Helper devatas to be Ishwar.

4. Thus Hinduism is essentially monotheistic and Quran has derived its concept of monotheism basically from Vedas

5. The three Gods are symbolic description of 3 functions of Ishwar – Creation, Maintenance and Destruction. Different Hindu sects may differ with regards to the importance one should be attaching to these various symbols or importance of Helper-Devatas, but all unanimously agree that there is one and only one Ishwar/God. Dr Naik has no new USP of Islam to sell here)

Dr Naik: “The major difference between the Hindu and the Muslim perception of God is the common Hindus’ belief in the philosophy of Pantheism. Pantheism considers everything, living and non-living, to be Divine and Sacred. The common Hindu, therefore, considers everything as God. He considers the trees as God, the sun as God, the moon as God, the monkey as God, the snake as God and even human beings as manifestations of God!

Comment:
(1. Dr Naik speaks this sentence with a slight smirk in his face in his video shows so that the audience feels humorous. But either he is mistaken or deliberately acting humorous.

2. Because Hinduism basically represents a school of thought believing in Law of Karma. The rest of the details are left to individual interpretation. All Hindus do consider functioning of each object – living or dead – as a gift of God, but they DO NOT consider the tree, sun, moon, monkey, snake, human as same as God/Ishwar.

3. Even the Advait believers, also admit that even if these things are considered to have origin in Ishwar or Brahma, currently there is a layer of ignorance or Maya separating them.

4. For rest of Hindus, they worship these objects, to show their thankfulness to Ishwar/ God to have created and gifted such wonderful things! Different sects do take this thankfulness to different levels, but none would consider everything to be God in present state, as IRF foolishly believes or wants the world to believe. Thus the crux of this article and its prime agenda become outrightly baseless.

5. The problem is that the neo-wahabi Islam which Dr Zakir Naik wants all Hindus to embrace does not have any philosophy or need for subtle thinking that demands finesse of mind and intellect. It would want us to believe that polygamy is right because there are more women in USA than men (Although there are far less women than men in marriageable age!). Or that had Islam been brutal in India, why would there be only 15% Muslim in India after so many centuries of rule? (And he would conveniently ignore 33 crore Muslims in Bangladesh and Pakistan which were originally part of India. Not to talk of Afghanistan!

But we need to beware of designs of those who openly support Bin Laden and ban on other religions (including Shias, Sufis, Ahmadiyas, Bahais) in Muslim countries or have a vision to make India a Muslim country in 5 years!)

Dr Naik: “Islam, on the contrary, exhorts man to consider himself and his surroundings as examples of Divine Creation rather than as divinity itself. Muslims therefore believe that everything is God’s i.e. the word ‘God’ with an apostrophe ‘s’. In other words the Muslims believe that everything belongs to God.

The trees belong to God, the sun belongs to God, the moon belongs to God, the monkey belongs to God, the snake belongs to God, the human beings belong to God and everything in this universe belongs to God.

Thus the major difference between the Hindu and the Muslim beliefs is the difference of the apostrophe ‘s’. The Hindu says everything is God. The Muslim says everything is God’s.”

Comment:
(1. As mentioned before the analogy of apostrophe ‘s’ is good for stage shows but is actually baseless. The major difference between the Hindu and the Muslim belief or Dr Zakir Naik is that Hindus believe in freedom of thought and analysis and do not curse anyone to Hell permanently. Or contrary, Dr Naik’s Islam would demand not only belief in God, but also belief in following:
– Muhammad as final Prophet
– Quran as final and only acceptable word of God beyond any doubts or questions
– Permanent Hell for those who refuse to believe in above and Heaven only for the rest
– Existence of angels.

Zakir has himself stated that howsomuch great and noble a person may be, unless he blindly believes in these he is destined to suffer in eternal Hell. 

2. Incidentally, Islam is not as uniform in its belief as Dr Naik wants us to believe. There is a Hadith of Muhammad’s times that Islam has 73 sects and Prophet has said thatonly one of them will go to Heaven and rest will go to Hell. Today, some sects have written their own new Quran as well! Many of the sects doubt authenticity of present Quran. Here is a sampler:
– Hashamiya – They believe that Prophet disobeyed Allah
– Azraqiah – They do not believe that revelations happen any more
– Nazzamiyah – They refuse to believe in miracles of Quran or Muhammad
– Ibriyah – They refuse to accept Muhammad as Prophet
– Tanasikhiya – They believe in reincarnation of soul as Hindus
You can read the complete list here

Many other sects of Islam also exist who have their own Qurans and Prophets. Search Wikipedia or google on “sects of Islam”)

The rest of the article only emphasizes the point that Hindus already know. In the end, Dr Naik adds a para claiming that Vedas call Muhammad the Prophet. He writes:

“The Prophecy confirms:

1. The name of the Prophet as Ahmed since Ahmed is an Arabic name. Many translators misunderstood it to be ‘Ahm at hi’ and translated the mantra as “I alone have acquired the real wisdom of my father”.

2. Prophet was given eternal law, i.e. the Shariah.

3. The Rishi was enlightened by the Shariah of Prophet Muhammad. The Qur’an says in Surah Saba Chapter 34 verse 28 (34:28):

“We have not sent thee but as a universal (Messenger) to men, giving them glad tidings and warning them (against sin), but most men understand not.””

Comment:
(1. An analysis of this foolish cl*aim can be found here.

2. If Allah himself says that most men will not understand, then it is fault of Allah and not of men that their lack of understanding was already pre-decided by Allah!)

I hope, after reading these articles, Dr Naik and IRF would go into an introspection and would be honest enough to embrace their original roots – the Vedas. Or at least, accept our invitation for an open-house debate that is long pending.

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True Muslim
True Muslim
3 years 11 months ago
Mr agniveer in your point 2 comment 22. “All Hindus do consider functioning of each object – living or dead – as a gift of God, but they DO NOT consider the tree, sun, moon, monkey, snake, human as same as God/Ishwar.” If you don’t consider them as your god… Read more »
Hindu
Hindu
1 month 11 days ago

We not consider tree, sun ,moon our god we only respect and thanking for giving us to fruits, light……………

SDC
SDC
3 years 11 months ago

Is it such a crime as to declare someone infidel, kill him, and take his wife, sons, and daughters, and property as war booty?

jaget955jaget
jaget955jaget
4 years 10 hours ago
IT IS COMMON MISCONCEPTION AMONG THE MASSES THAT ULTIMATELY ALL PATHS ARE ONE AND A PERSON WILL REACH THE SAME END RESULT NO MATTER WHAT METHOD HE ADOPTS TO WORSHIP GOD. THE VEDAS SAY THE OPPOSITE . THEY CLEARLY MENTION THAT ALL THE DIFFERENT METHODS OF WORSHIP DO NOT LEAD… Read more »
jaget955jaget
jaget955jaget
4 years 11 hours ago

Zakit, you can say, whatever u like, because you are under control of the nature. For you Islam is the best, because you also under control of maya(nature). .

jaget955jaget
jaget955jaget
4 years 11 hours ago

The meat eater cannot understand the purpose of life. For them, this material world is heaven , and enjoy the sex as much as can. They are maleccian, (meat eater) , their religion is forth or fifth class religion.

hinduagnostic
hinduagnostic
4 years 3 days ago

there is no science in quran which could have already been known but most verses are misinterpreted or contracdict science

truth seeker is blasphemous...
truth seeker is blasphemous...
4 years 1 month ago
@aryasamajis, you always say that how momins will live happily in jannat even after listening the cries of jahannamis and y Allah want to punish jahannamis? in the same way i cant understand how could u live happily in this world when you know that there are many peoples who… Read more »
KalBhairav
KalBhairav
4 years 1 month ago
@tsib: There is a problem with your analogy. The reasons why we punish criminals here on earth are: (1)it can serve as a force of deterrance. (2)the laws are clearly laid out and the punishment specified for each law that is broken. There is a high court, a supreme court,… Read more »
truth seeker is blasphemous...
truth seeker is blasphemous...
4 years 1 month ago
@KB, i thing u have become emotional or something, i have no where said that u believe in such religion. i have said that as momins cant live happily in jannat because of some peoples will be in constant punishment in hell because of their innocent crimes then how could… Read more »
Truth Seeker
Truth Seeker
4 years 1 month ago
@blasphemous ____________can u not give him any chance to change____________ Sorry, I do not want to give any chance of correction to criminals like Afjal, Osama, Kasab etc. I am not merciful enough like God. I am a human. I just want to take revenge from them for their wrong… Read more »
KalBhairav
KalBhairav
4 years 1 month ago

@tsib:

one scientist accepted islam after reading this verse because this verse is revealing that skin has pain receptors/skin receive pain and 1400 years ago nobody knows that skin has pain receptors?

ROTFLMAO 🙂

I know many ex-Muslims who have rejected Islam because of such verses. 😉

SDC
SDC
4 years 1 month ago
Just one point. Almost everybody is against police torture. Only sick minds will enjoy the sight of torture of others. Yes, of course, criminals needs to be punished but there is a system of clemency whereby criminals who show a marked change in behavior are given a reduced term of… Read more »
Munna Bhai
Munna Bhai
4 years 1 month ago

Zakir Naik said one right thing about ISLAM & that is ” ISLAM is not a new religon & nor PROPHET MUHAMMAD (P.B.U.H) is the founder of ISLAM, but ISLAM was in this world since 1st PROPHET OF ALLAH “PROPHET ADAM (P.B.U.H.)” set his foot in this world.

Truth Seeker
Truth Seeker
4 years 1 month ago
@Munna Bhai/All Brother, Zakir is correct Islam is from starting of creation. Islam followers have been existed on the earth in every century & era. In Treta Yug Ravan was the greatest prophet of Islam who used to follow Islam. When Rama was in Jungle/Forest sages said Rama that all… Read more »
truth seeker is blasphemous...
truth seeker is blasphemous...
4 years 1 month ago
@TS, you have done blasphemy, you just reveal ur identity and then see the consequences of blasphemy……hell is waiting for u…but it is our faith that a person, who abuses Allah and prophet, will surely see the result of blasphemy in this world and never get hidaya.. please keep updating… Read more »
Truth Seeker : Allah worries
Truth Seeker : Allah worries
4 years 1 month ago
@blasphemous To know me first read article, I am there and find me by your intelligence agencies http://alisina.org/islam-the-religion-ofs-moral-relativism/ Allah forgives not that partners should be set up with Him; but He forgives anything else. (Q. 4:48 ) Allah will forgive any crime and even prescribes cruelty and injustice towards the… Read more »
SDC
SDC
4 years 1 month ago
Well, you are again into threatening mode. Anyways, lets get down the brass tacks: You see you make fun of my religious beliefs, I do the same in return. You threaten me with dire consequences, I do not care two hoots about it. I think there have been recent riots… Read more »
truth seeker is blasphemous...
truth seeker is blasphemous...
4 years 1 month ago
@SDC, i have not said that i am going to book truth sekr under any IPC, so i am not taking any help of intelligence agencies. my main point was that if any one abuses Allah or prophet then he is not faithful in his search of truth. if you… Read more »
SDC
SDC
4 years 1 month ago

And you reveal your identity first so that you could be booked for issuing threats, the characteristic of a true momin aka terrorist.

Truth Seeker
Truth Seeker
4 years 1 month ago
@blasphemous _________truth seeker is comparing a marriage as rape_______ Suppose One attacks at your house & kills all male members of your family including you & loots all the property of your house. Will your mother, sister, wife do sex with the killer of their husband, children & brother wishfully?… Read more »
SDC
SDC
4 years 1 month ago
Likewise, there is absolutely no need for you to know Truth seeker’s identity. Let him stay anonymous. BTW, let it be known that people who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones at others. You insult our gods and this is what you get in return. If your daees’ can… Read more »
truth seeker is blasphemous...
truth seeker is blasphemous...
4 years 1 month ago
@SDC, there is no need to know my identity because if you want to book then you can do it easily by just showing my comment on this site. Our intelligence agencies are intelligent enough to trace any person who is using internet in India(i hope that you remember many… Read more »
Spirit
Spirit
4 years 5 months ago
You did not like my example of piece of gold and gold mine. I implied that a piece of gold is as good as the gold mine but not that gold mine. A Jeevatma is potent but not omnipotent. A Jeevatma is knowing but not all knowing. This properties are… Read more »
KKR
KKR
4 years 5 months ago
Brother spirit, you asked me to show the verses from Vedic texts which talk about the formless God, and I believe I had given you enough examples. Now at least you don’t have any doubts that Vedic texts indeed talk about the formless God and that is what is projected… Read more »
Spirit
Spirit
4 years 5 months ago
Pranam Brother KKR, Brother spirit, you asked me to show the verses from Vedic texts which talk about the formless God, and I believe I had given you enough examples. Now at least you don’t have any doubts that Vedic texts indeed talk about the formless God and that is… Read more »
KKR
KKR
4 years 5 months ago
Brother spirit, It answers your second question. “Where is your omniscience” ? If you fall in to an hypnotic state and believe yourself that you are a cat or monkey you will behave like one. In that state your personality of a cat or monkey is real and you wouldn’t… Read more »
Spirit
Spirit
4 years 5 months ago
Brother KKR, ” “Where is your omniscience” ? If you fall in to an hypnotic state and believe yourself that you are a cat or monkey you will behave like one. In that state your personality of a cat or monkey is real and you wouldn’t remember whether you are… Read more »
KKR
KKR
4 years 5 months ago
Brother Spirit, I am not disappointed by this debate. It gave me an opportunity to re-visit my Gita book. I believe even you would take it that way. Only thing is that we need to study the thoughts of other scholars also, instead of sticking to one school of thought.… Read more »
Spirit
Spirit
4 years 5 months ago
See you reference….. Ch 7 V 4 “Earth, water, air,ether, fire, mind, spiritual intelligence and false ego; thus these are eight fold of my external energy” The eight categories of Lord Krishna’s include the five elements and the mind concluding with the mahat denoting intellect and ahankara denoting false ego.… Read more »
Spirit
Spirit
4 years 5 months ago
Pranam Brother KKr, I asked for explanation but you continued to concoct stories. I am now in serious doubt that if you are a polytheist. What are you? A polytheist or a monotheist?? Vedas supports monotheism. If you are right there must be more than numerable God(s). Bcoz we, the… Read more »
Swathy
Swathy
4 years 5 months ago

If Allah is the almighty God, why did he create so much confusion to humanity? Allah want the whole entire humanity to convert to Islam?

Spirit
Spirit
4 years 5 months ago
Pranam bro God is Great. Thanks for participating. You were bang right when u said tatvam asi means you r that. This is a Vedic verse and therefore it must be accepted rationally. The verse does not say that I am God it says I am same as God. A… Read more »
KKR
KKR
4 years 5 months ago
Brother Spirit, happy to see that you are seriously trying to understand the concepts of Hindu philosophy. As I had pointed out earlier, examples can only give indicative ideas, not the full understanding as there is nothing else which can match one to one with God, Atman, Brahman etc. So… Read more »
KKR
KKR
4 years 5 months ago
Brother Spirit, Now coming back your query to show you the verses in Vedic texts which talks about “Supreme Brahmin as impersonal, formless deity”. Since Gita is “Upanidhad saram” let me take Gita. Chapter 7, verses 4,5,6 talks about two Prakruthis (Para and Apara) of God. In this Krishna says,… Read more »
Spirit
Spirit
4 years 5 months ago
Ch. 13 V. 15 ”The Supersoul is the original source of all senses, yet He is without senses. He is unattached, although He is the maintainer of all living beings. He transcends the modes of nature, and at the same time He is the master of all the modes of… Read more »
Spirit
Spirit
4 years 5 months ago
Ch. 13 V. 13 ”I shall now explain the knowable, knowing which you will taste the eternal. Brahman, the spirit, beginningless and subordinate to Me, lies beyond the cause and effect of this material world.” The Lord has explained the field of activities and the knower of the field. He… Read more »
Spirit
Spirit
4 years 5 months ago
Ch. 7 V. 24 Unable to comprehend my imperishable, exalted and supreme state of being; the spirituality deficient regard Me, the unmenifest as coming into existent. What is so special that differentiates Lord Krishna from all other demigods? He clarifies this by the word avyaktam meaning transcendent explaining by the… Read more »
GOD IS GREAT
GOD IS GREAT
4 years 5 months ago
प्रणाम! Well, I just found what Erwin Schrodinger spoke about Vedanta. He said Vedanta teaches that consciousness is singular, all happenings are played out in one universal consciousness and there is no multiplicity of selves. Nirvana is a state of pure blissful knowledge.. It has nothing to do with individual.… Read more »
Spirit
Spirit
4 years 5 months ago
Brother Kkr, you just need to show me the verses from Gita/ Bhagvatam/ Vedas and other Vedic scriptures which describe Supreme Brahmin as impersonal, formless deity. And nothing else. Why is it so difficult to discuss serious questions here? Kindly, be more clear on the fact. I went through your… Read more »
GOD IS GREAT
GOD IS GREAT
4 years 5 months ago
Sorry to interrupt this debate, But I would like to say that Advaita concept (Everything is GOD) is derived from few Upanishads. It was made famous by Jagadguru Adi Shankara. It is accepted by various scientists – Niels Bohr, Erwin Schrodinger, Nichola Tesla. The Brahma is Consciousness. We interpret the… Read more »
Spirit
Spirit
4 years 5 months ago
Pranam bro kkr. I thank u on the first place. I just got a feeling that you realized the innerself. But you describe the deity of mayavada as supreme Brahmin. Afterwards, if there is no answer to the questions what is the logic behind raising them? I dont know swami… Read more »
KKR
KKR
4 years 5 months ago
Brother, When you say “I dont understand how you got the impression of a desireless, formless Brahmin from Bhagvatam…”, you sound like you have tried studying these scriptures but yet you couldn’t find the truths which I pointed out. Have you really searched for truth in these scriptures ? That… Read more »
KKR
KKR
4 years 5 months ago
Brother Spirit, You may know that Hinduism is a like a university where you find kindergarten to post doctoral research course offered under the same roof. Many fail to understand this. They mix few ideas from LKG, primary school, high school and college level Hindu philosophy and create their own… Read more »
Spirit
Spirit
4 years 5 months ago
Bro KKR, u said that we (including u) are in deep sleep. If that be so how can u say that you are in deep sleep? Can anyone say that he is sleeping when he is in sleep? Your post asserts that you realised everything and eliminated the ignorance of… Read more »
KKR
KKR
4 years 5 months ago
Brother Spirit, your questions are very logical which can’t arise from somebody who doesn’t think. I appreciate you for not asking silly questions. After reading my words did you feel it as an assertion of my realization ?? I am surprised ! Please re-read my post. As I had already… Read more »
Spirit
Spirit
4 years 5 months ago

Bro Kkr, if everything is God than u must b god, mustn’t u? And now if God be omniscient, potent, present where is ur omnipresence, potence?

KKR
KKR
4 years 5 months ago
Brother, This is how Hindu scriptures stimulate the minds and bring out the very natural questions. Our holy texts are compiled in the form of conversations and debates. Be it Upanishads or Gita or Puranas. You can see these same simple logical questions being asked by characters to Gurus /… Read more »
KKR
KKR
4 years 5 months ago
@Abdullah Sajid You said “Allah specially Creates for those…” even for a lowest of spiritual wisdom, it is ridiculous. What it shows is that, this so called heaven is only a glorified version of LasVegas. filled with sluts. And it is funny to think that Allah the God is unable… Read more »
KKR
KKR
4 years 5 months ago
@Agniveer, I also disagree with you which makes me agree with Zakir’s understanding of Hindu concept of God where he says, for Hindus everything is God. Is it not true ? I believe all the effort of Vedas and Puranas ( based on knowledge of Bhagavatham), Upanishads and Gita are… Read more »
GOD IS GREAT
GOD IS GREAT
4 years 5 months ago
Brother! There is no conflict. You are slightly mistaken. Sarva khalvidam Brahma means everything is manifestation of GOD. Even Agniveer supported that view. He only thwarted evil intention of Zakir Naik so there is nothing wrong. Zakir Naik wanted everybody to convert to Islam so, Agniveer attacked him. There is… Read more »
Anup Sudhakaran
4 years 6 months ago
Hey, I’m such a fan of you. I like reading your articles and I’m a frequent visitor of you page. Whoever is behind the agniveer.com. I want to tell you that you people are really doing a fantastic job. I believe you wont mind if I refer your articles for… Read more »
Yashvardan
Yashvardan
4 years 6 months ago
Hey brothers.. I think… You all are trying to prove who is right or who is wrong. this is a wrong thing we have learned from our own religion, Hindus dont have unity as islam has or other religious. Someday Hinduism will disappear from world. because we waste our time… Read more »
rohit chaudhary
rohit chaudhary
4 years 9 months ago

agniveer ur doing greatjob..hats off to u

Gul
Gul
4 years 10 months ago
dear brothers We all belong to one family and are human being with mind and heart . Our aim in the world should have been let live and other live peacefully help each and not divide amoung ourselves . We have one more faculty and that is free will to… Read more »
Akhila Padhi
Akhila Padhi
4 years 10 months ago
Gul ji… Nice comment. What you said should be the true color of human. Vedas very clearly said, there is only one God, and all ways of prayers goes to him. Hence many schools of thought live in India in a peaceful way. The problem starts, when a sect destroyed… Read more »
Spirit
4 years 10 months ago

Pranam Brother Shabeer
You wanna proof? Just keep watching the laughter shows of Zakir Bhai MBBS. You would get your answers.
Dhanyawad 🙂

Avadhoot Dandekar
4 years 11 months ago
(1) God is not a concept but an existential experience or realization. Therefore, all discussions about God are useless because they are ‘about God’. (2) ‘There is only one God’ is a wrong statement. The true statement is ‘ There is only God’. Except God there is nothing. Only God… Read more »
Spirit
Spirit
4 years 11 months ago

Pranam Brother truth seeker, ur question is very entertaining. Let him answer!

Truth Seeker
Truth Seeker
4 years 11 months ago
@shabeer /Spirit Brother spirit, Shabber is a coward person. He has no dare to accept Mohamad prophecy is not eternal but temporary & Kuran also not eternal book & Allah memory also not sound because Allah keeps a book named Loha Mahfoof under his throne & he noted down all… Read more »
shabeer
4 years 11 months ago
Given below is a list of some of the evidences in support of the divine nature of the Qur’an: 1. It , itself, declares that it is a divine Scripture. 2. It shall remain unchanged upto the Last Day. 3. The path of right conduct that it prescribes is faultless.… Read more »
Spirit
4 years 11 months ago
Pranam Brother Shabeer My response: 1) I, myself declare me as almighty. Do you agree? 2) Do you know a goat of Aisha ate some pages of it??? Let alone for eternity 😉 3) Yes I agree with you on this point. Pedophilia, sex slave, killing apostates etc. are really… Read more »
Spirit
Spirit
4 years 11 months ago
Pranam Brother Shabeer My response: 1) I, myself declare me as almighty. Do you agree? 2) Do you know a goat of Aisha ate some pages of it??? Let alone for eternity 😉 3) Yes I agree with you on this point. Pedophilia, sex slave, killing apostates etc. are really… Read more »
Spirit
Spirit
4 years 11 months ago

Pranam Brother truth seeker, why are u wasting time in explaining Vedas? He is not going to understand it anyway. It is better we raise some questions about their fanaticism. Dhanyawad

Truth Seeker
Truth Seeker
4 years 11 months ago
@Shabber _________It , itself, declares that it is a divine Scripture._______ I declares my self Allah. Why do not you agree with me? ___________It shall remain unchanged upto the Last Day.______________ Is it eternal? No. Only eternal can not be changed otherwise all is changeable. ________The path of right conduct… Read more »
Truth Seeker
Truth Seeker
4 years 11 months ago
@shabeer I also got tired to make you understand that Veda says God never sitted idly. But you are not agree with Veda. You want to prove at all cost that God was sitted idly before this creation. I also got tired to make you understand Veda says do not… Read more »
shabeer
4 years 11 months ago
iam tired becouse thousand times here and discussion bord i am clear all your ignorent allegation about islam.but at the same time,u the people escape my all simple questions about veda and upanishid. ex) 1) some of vereses i bring from veda for suporting monoithesm and polytheism. whats u’r belief?… Read more »
shabeer
4 years 11 months ago
” ) all apostates should b killed. 2) anyone not believing ur religion wil go to eternal hell. 3) muslim should b allowed in non muslim country but non muslim mustnot b allowed in muslim countries. ………… ” that u’r personal ignorance about islam.its not valid,iam not a person to… Read more »
bhagat
bhagat
4 years 11 months ago
Respected debaters and friends, I respect the feelings of all of you here, but i blatantly state that Dr.Dhinakaran god visions of god and has varied supernatural experiences. I dont just state something in the air. Im here to reason. If you dont believe that he has divine visions and… Read more »
shabeer
4 years 11 months ago

@ anurag

u watch the debate between 2sree Ravishankar and DR.Zakir Naik

i think u never wach it.

plz watch it………….
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8457665130451146736

shabeer
4 years 11 months ago
Truth Seeker
Truth Seeker
4 years 11 months ago
@Shabeer If you have guts to debate, I ask to you one simple question- 1. Why do you think we should believe in a book, say Kuran which proves Allah was sitting idly on his comfortable throne before this creation. If you are son of one father do not try… Read more »
shabeer
4 years 11 months ago

@truth seeker

i answered the same questions,posted by aryaveer ji in discussion forum.

next day agniveer ji delete it.

detailed answer here>>>>

http://www.islamhinduism.com/responses/satyarth-prakash/68-was-allah-sitting-idle-before-creation.

short answer requred ask me i will give u…

MAHESH JHA
MAHESH JHA
4 years 11 months ago

http://agneeveer.blogspot.com ke naam se koi yuvak farji website chala raha hai usme satyarth praksak aur vedo ka anarth kiya ja raha hai

bhagat
bhagat
4 years 11 months ago
Friends, I am extrememly glorified to give u an insight into the answers all of u seek, including me. I have been searching the answer to this question for 17 long years! My long search was aimed at finding 1 person alive who has seen god and can talk to… Read more »
shravak
shravak
4 years 11 months ago

“HE HAS SEEN GOD AND CAN TALK TO GOD!!!” 😀 lol

SDC
SDC
4 years 11 months ago
Here comes the Xian missionaries. “HIS BOOKS AND ONLINE RESEARCH PROVES HE HAS SEEN GOD AND CAN TALK TO GOD.” So what research did you do, mister enlightened? Enlightenment is an individual phenomenon and not a borrowed one. Others can only help, but one has to go through the process… Read more »
Truth Seeker
Truth Seeker
4 years 11 months ago
If Mohamad can see formless God why not other can see. He must have seen formless God like Great Mohamad. Although God is formless but to give enjoyment to his devotee his changes himself & manifests himself in form of human & sits on his comfortable throne on 7th sky… Read more »
Avadhoot Dandekar
4 years 11 months ago
@Truth Seeker. Islam divides everything into three: (1) God (Allah), (2) Prophet Mohammad (The messenger of God or Allah), (3) The ordinary common people. Now, whether Mohammad has seen the formless God or not only he may know about it. The other common Muslims can not know this because of… Read more »
Spirit
4 years 11 months ago
Pranam Brother Dandekaar It’s unwise to say that everybody is going to be nobody. Therefore I see that you have lack of knowledge. If you are judging everybody as their body then your verdict stands. But if you do that this shows your ignorance about Vedas and Srimad Vagbad Gita.… Read more »
Avadhoot Dandekar
4 years 11 months ago
@Truth Seeker. …. Cont. (2) According to Hinduism, Vedas and Upanishads the creator and his creation are not two different things. The Brahma and his creation are not two different things. The manifest and the unmanifest are not two different things. The seen and the unseen are not two different… Read more »
KalBhairav
KalBhairav
4 years 11 months ago
@SDC: Enlightenment is an individual phenomenon and not a borrowed one. But, but, but…you are forgetting SDC…The Son of God died for our sins. If he can die for us, why cannot someone else see and talk to God saying “I am God and Jesus is my last prophet and… Read more »
sonal
sonal
5 years 6 days ago
dr. zakir naik speaks about relating books and tries to answer questions , i would strongly advice to him to go back to the books written by swamy vivekananda and get his basics right , and now coming dwn to practicality it is scientifically proven dat indus valley civilisation was… Read more »
Vik
Vik
5 years 4 days ago
Namaste Sonal Sonal, Naik is too chicken to speak to high level hindu scholars. Naik has been challenged many times by Arya Samaj (Scholars of Vedas) for either a live public debate or online debate, but Naik kept refusing. Nowadays, with the help of Agniveer articles, even common hindus who… Read more »
bhagat
bhagat
5 years 10 days ago

@ kalbhairav..ur rite bro…ur talks do actly make a lot of sense. do u have fb? add me if u want http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=868355594

bhagat
bhagat
5 years 10 days ago
Dear kalbhairav, I appreciate ur efforts on this topic. I would also like to tell u that i am not referring to any verses. Quotation of verses only leads to controversy as there are good verses in both Gita and Quran; but both scriptures (such as vedas in hindus) and… Read more »
KalBhairav
KalBhairav
5 years 10 days ago
@bhagat: as there are good verses in both Gita and Quran Which verses in the Quran are good verses? Are you sure they havent been abrogaged by later verses? How do you know the good verses were not a summary of good ideas that predated Islam or were already prevalent… Read more »
KalBhairav
KalBhairav
5 years 10 days ago
@bhagat: Regarding miracles: (1)Do we know if these are actually miracles? (2)If yes, the fact that there are miracles in every religion could mean one of two things: (a)God is showing his power by performing miracles randomly on earth…It just so happens that some of these places happen to be… Read more »
bhagat
bhagat
5 years 10 days ago
Hello I know that in BhagawadGita, Krishna says following 1. There is rebirth 2. Krishna stays in heart of every living being. 3. Soul has to come back from Swarga to earth. In Koran, Mohammed says following: 1. There is no rebirth, this is the first and last birth, after… Read more »
KalBhairav
KalBhairav
5 years 10 days ago
@bhagat: Let me try to address some of your questions. (1)Religion firstly is a personal affair. While there is one objective Reality out there, the perception of this Reality is unique based on different capacities of the individuals. This is because at any one point in time the earth is… Read more »
KalBhairav
KalBhairav
5 years 10 days ago
(4)The Impersonal Brahman is pure consciousness. This Brahman, per se, doesnt care whether you are a follower of Mohammed or Confucius or Buddha or Krishna. It operates indirectly via the law of Karma and Reincarnation. This is a purely deterministic law. I do not know the exact details of this… Read more »
KalBhairav
KalBhairav
5 years 10 days ago
(7)As to why Brahman allowed Mohammed and Islam to flourish, as I said, the impersonal Brahman doesnt care actually. Infinite are its manifestations of names and forms. Mohammed is one such manifestation. Humans have free will. If one choose to proclaim oneself as the last prophet of Allah and followers… Read more »
bhagat
bhagat
5 years 11 days ago
Dear agniveer, I find you to be very sharp and intellectually planned. You clearly adopt an unbiased appraoch and speak only on the basis of proof. Prior to reading ur blogs here, i felt as if i were misguided to choose and conclude one path as that of god. I… Read more »
KalBhairav
KalBhairav
5 years 11 days ago
@bhagat: I speak for myself and not Agniveer. In this era where folks leave innumerable footprints on the internet, one needs to be careful about using email ids, etc. I understand that Momins around the world are shaken by Agniveer/Satyagni movement and there is no telling what spurned Momins can… Read more »
radhika
radhika
5 years 29 days ago
“When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and reflect about how God created this universe everything else seems so superfluous.” ~ Albert Einstein “To other countries I may go as a tourist, but to India I come as a pilgrim.” ~ Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr “When I read the Upanishads, I… Read more »
Amit Dev
Amit Dev
5 years 29 days ago
Dr. Zakir Naik quoted some prophesies in Rigveda, Samveda and in other Hindu sacred scriptures about prophet Mohammad. If these prophesies are right, then these books are divine(Asmani Qitab). and other contents of these books are also true. For instance, in Rigveda Hrishis are invoking gods like Agni, Vayu, Indra… Read more »
ibrahim
ibrahim
4 years 1 month ago

brothes those were the differen attributes given to go by different sages. they were not them selves the god.

khemchandra9188
khemchandra9188
5 years 1 month ago
Now, when riots occur, often half a dozen sturdy Mohammadans, armed with sticks and stones, disperse a procession of hundred Hindus. A numerical minority, if armed and prepared, can easily overcome an unarmed and unprepared crowd. The Hindus are unarmed because they are unprepared, unaware of eventual danger. Nobody prevents… Read more »
manavendra9953
manavendra9953
5 years 1 month ago
Vivekananda’s explanation on idol worship and many GODs theory of Hinduism I have just taken a small excerpt of Vivekananda’s speech at World Parliament of Religion on Chicago, 19th September 1893….. ”… Superstition is a great enemy of man, but bigotry is worse. Why does a Christian go to church?… Read more »
abhijeet
abhijeet
5 years 1 month ago
Hindu society needs the total Hindu solidarity and Kshatriya spirit. He said atrocities are being committed against the Hindus everywhere in India and in its neighborhood. Everywhere the Hindu’s hearth, home and honor is under assault. But be it Assam, West Bengal, Kashmir or Kerala, the Hindu is fighting alone.… Read more »
Agniveer
5 years 1 month ago

Dear Abhijit,

Please do not post same comment on different posts. Also reduce the number of comments within a small time span or else the system would ban you as a possible spammer.
Admin

abhijeet
abhijeet
5 years 1 month ago
Many Javanese appear to have retained aspects of their indigenous and Hindu traditions through the centuries of Islamic influence, under the banner of ‘Javanist religion’ or a non-orthodox ‘Javanese Islam’. The emergence of a self-conscious Hindu revival movement these days within Javanese community is a sign of significant development. Hindu… Read more »
ninad
ninad
5 years 4 months ago
dear agniveerji why don.t you start a tv channel like so called peace tv , which actually should be called war tv . , to highlight the beautiful vedas and give awareness to hindus , we need you to come out more strong , if u air seminars like the… Read more »
Vajra
Vajra
5 years 4 months ago
Namaste Ninad Ji I think the problem with the people like Agniveer is that they are trying to reform a society which is better known to spend crores on donating golden idols and diamond crowns of the so called Gods to the already rich shrines but dont spend even a… Read more »
Sharek
Sharek
5 years 5 months ago

Thank you Agniveerji.

I really feel happy reading your articles, happy to see defenders of Truth.
Good work

Anyone
Anyone
5 years 9 months ago

http://islam-is-easy.blogspot. com/2010/10/islam-and-theory-o f-karma.html

truefriend111111
truefriend111111
5 years 9 months ago
Dear Agniveer, I believe that u r an true follower of vedas or so called as Sanatan Dharm–But i feel pity when u quote out of context statements from Quran to proove there are contradictions in Quran. If u are an True Aryan leave the falsehood—SO let’s have an discussion… Read more »
Indian Agnostic
Indian Agnostic
5 years 9 months ago

Even if Agniveer is not ….I would be here on Sunday to understand from you as to how you got the copy rights on Truth 🙂

truefriend111111
truefriend111111
5 years 9 months ago
@INDIAN AGNOSTIC D) ERRORS 1. Vedas say Earth is static! According to Vedas, the earth is static and this statement is repeated several times. The following are some of the examples: Oh Man ! He who made the trembling earth static is Indra. (Rig Ved 2/12/12) The God who made… Read more »
TOTAGOTO
TOTAGOTO
5 years 9 months ago
truefriend111111
truefriend111111
5 years 9 months ago

@TOGATO

PROVIDE U’R PROOF NOT BASED ON OTHER’S WORD

U CAN SEEK THE HELP OF ARYASAMAJNAGAR FOR WORD TO WORD TRANSLATION

JUST BY PUTTING UP AN DOCUMENT–WHERE THE AUTHOR HIMSELF DOESN.T WHAT’S HE SPEAKING

SPEAK WITH REFERENCES—WITH SANSKRIT TEXT–AND WORD TO WORD TRANSLATION OF U’R VEDAS

Om Jai Jagdish
Om Jai Jagdish
5 years 9 months ago

kindly provide which translation are you using

Vajra
Vajra
5 years 9 months ago
TOTAGOTO
TOTAGOTO
5 years 9 months ago
MOTION OF EARTH Rig Veda 10.22.14 “This earth is devoid of hands and legs, yet it moves ahead. All the objects over the earth also move with it. It moves around the sun. In this mantra, Kshaa = Earth (refer Nigantu 1.1) Ahastaa = without hands Apadee = without legs… Read more »
truefriend111111
truefriend111111
5 years 9 months ago
@TOGATO A FEEL PITY ON KNOW THAT THERE ARE SCIENTIFIC POINTS IN VEDAS BUT WHAT ABOUT SCIENTIFIC ERRORS I HAD POSTED REPLY THEM IF U CAN PROOVE SOME SCIENTIFIC POINTS FROM VEDAS IT DOESN’T MEAN IT IS WORD OF GOD–THERE WERE MANY REVELATION SENT N THE FACE OF EARTH. BUT… Read more »
Vajra
Vajra
5 years 9 months ago
truefriend of zakir naik Scientific errors in Quran, translated by great Islamic scholar Vajra: 1. Quran [2:1]- Earth is flat. 2. Quran [2:2]- Sun is flat. 3. Quran [2:3]- Moon is flat. 4. Quran [2:4]- Sun and moon revolve around earth in the orbit such that neither of one can… Read more »
truefriend111111
truefriend111111
5 years 9 months ago
@VAJRA GOOD TRANSLAION YARR, MAYBE BY VAJYA & DAYANAND SARASWATI—THE SAME STRATEGY U USE WHEN TRANSLATING VEDAS—BUT FOR U’R OWN BENEFIT TODAY I’LL TEACH U HOW TO REFUTE THE CLAIMS—BUT IT CAN BE DONE BY THE ONE WHO IS TRUTHFUL ONLY— 1. Quran [2:1]- Earth is flat. ANSWER:-ARABIC WILL BE… Read more »
Vajra
Vajra
5 years 9 months ago
truefriend of zakir naik You wrote-“GOOD TRANSLAION YARR, MAYBE BY VAJYA & DAYANAND” Perhaps you did not notice that translations are from Vajra, the great Islamic scholar otherwise you would have not used “MAY BE”! I have not refuted any of your claim, neither I am planning to do it… Read more »
108Eternal
108Eternal
5 years 9 months ago

Your argument is invalid as your translations are wrong. Use proper translations (http://aryasamajjamnagar.org/).

The Puranas are irrelevant, we only follow the Vedas.

108Eternal
108Eternal
5 years 9 months ago

As you are not using proper translations of the Vedas, your argument is not valid, as none of the ‘errors’ you mentioned are in the Vedas.

Proper translations of the Vedas can be found in the following site:

http://aryasamajjamnagar.org/

truefriend111111
truefriend111111
5 years 9 months ago
@108 ETERNAL JUST BY ASYING THAT THERE ARE NO ERRORS OR IT IS AN WRONG TRANSLATION IS AN OLD TRICK IF THERE ARE NO ERRORS THEN REFUTE THE CLAMS,ERRORS WITH WORD TO WORD TRANSLATION U ARE TO REFUTE—— BY JUST SAYING THAT TRANSLATION IS CORRECT–DOESN;T HOLD TRUE—–U HAVE TO PROOVE… Read more »
108Eternal
108Eternal
5 years 9 months ago
Namaste brother. Vedas containing no errors is a fact, a fact which can be verified by anyone, including yourself. Your translations are wrong, the intentions of translators such as Miller, Griffith, etc are well known to be to undermine the Vedas and falsely glorify Christianity. Your points have already been… Read more »
Vajra
Vajra
5 years 9 months ago
truefriend of zakir naik Scientific errors in Quran, translated by great Islamic scholar Vajra: 1. Quran [2:1]- Earth is flat. 2. Quran [2:2]- Sun is flat. 3. Quran [2:3]- Moon is flat. 4. Quran [2:4]- Sun and moon revolve around earth in the orbit such that neither of one can… Read more »
truefriend111111
truefriend111111
5 years 9 months ago
@INDIAN AGNOSTIC C)Women in Hinduism Women’s intellect hath little weight: “Indra himself hath said, The mind of woman brooks not discipline, Her intellect hath little weight.” [Rig-Veda 8:33:17] Women are powerless and they have no inheritance. They are even worse than bad man: “Women are powerless, have no inheritance, and… Read more »
Vajra
Vajra
5 years 9 months ago
truefriend of zakir dumber WARNING- IF YOU REPEAT SUCH VULGAR WORDS IN THE NAME OF VEDAS AGAIN, I WILL TEAR APART QURAN AND MUHAMMAD LIKE ANYTHING. Quran [2:1] says that Allah is not one! Quran [13:1] says that Muhammad is not the final Rasul! Quran [29:1] says that Quran is… Read more »
truefriend111111
truefriend111111
5 years 9 months ago
@iNDIAN aGNOSTIC B) PORNOGRAPHY IN VEDAS Incest : The Father Commits Incest With His DaughterThis is a concept of creation which appears in Rig-Veda and remains through later Hindu mythology. It contains an idea of primeval Incest. Explicitly there is no single hymn which tells this story, but references are… Read more »
truefriend111111
truefriend111111
5 years 9 months ago
@iNDIAN aGNOSTIC mY POINTS REGARDING VEDAS, WHY SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED AS WORD OF GOD A)CASTE SYSTEM-WHATEVER U TRY TO QUOTE GOOD STATEMENTS FROM THE VEDAS BUT U CANNOT HIDE THE TRUTH OF THE VEDAS Rg Veda mentions Sudra and Vaisya each and that too at a very late period… Read more »
Om Jai Jagdish
Om Jai Jagdish
5 years 9 months ago

understand the real caste system

http://agniveer.com/category/vedas/caste-system/

truefriend111111
truefriend111111
5 years 9 months ago

@iNDIAN aGNOSTIC

YOU CAN POST WHY DO U THINK THAT VEDAS IS WORD OF GOD WITH REFERENCES AND NOT BASED ON INDIVIDUAL STUDY OR AGNIVEER’S STUDY, BUT SUPPORTED WITH FACTS

ninad
5 years 9 months ago
dr. zakir naik /dr, chapter verse should realize that the quran is only a fat rule book which has absolutely no depth ,allah found it important to even lay the dress code of how men and women should be dressed while doing the namaz . the photos of mecca are… Read more »
Vik
Vik
6 years 2 months ago
@jasim no single verse? How about verses that order u to have sex with slaves? How about verses that tell ur enjoyment with virgins in paradise and tons of alcohol? Verses of killing apostles? Verses that show no valid reason why allah created us and destined our fate to be… Read more »
ibrahim
ibrahim
4 years 1 month ago
well answer by razzak to vik. brother about killing of apostles, allah says if people deviate you from islam then fight against the truth. its also mention in bhagvat geeta. but allah says in surah tauba, that, “if they repent then take them to secure place”. and about fate, if… Read more »
Razzak
Razzak
5 years 11 months ago
wats ur source of saying tat ? its said in paradise u will get wat is not allowed for u here… tats the gift we will get Inshallah…. verses that orders to have sex with slaves is not mentioned anywhr…. :S u r misguided becoz on net u get many… Read more »
jasim
jasim
6 years 2 months ago

there is no single verse in the holy quran proved to be wrong .. wht abt that . that means it is from almighty

anirudh o. mishra
anirudh o. mishra
6 years 2 months ago

and also i think in some years the time is arrived that lord shri krishna had said.,
यदा यदा हि धर्मस्य ग्लानिर्भवति भारत ।
अभ्युत्थानमधर्मस्य तदात्मानं सृजाम्यहम् ॥४-७॥

परित्राणाय साधूनां विनाशाय च दुष्कृताम् ।
धर्मसंस्थापनार्थाय सम्भवामि युगे युगे ॥४-८॥

bhagwan sabaka bhala kare.,
jai sia ram

manoj kumar
manoj kumar
4 years 10 months ago
we people belive in what is one guy saying, we not belive what our god say’s sree krishna yada-yada hee dharmsya glanirbhavti bharata,abhiudhanama dharmasya tadatanam srijhayam,we not belive we know we r right,like we not belive sun is there ,we know sun is there,thank’s one more thing all religion is… Read more »
ibrahim
ibrahim
4 years 1 month ago
God says in quran that,”we make the people to forget the verses so that to reaveal some thing better than it or similar to it”[ surah al baqrah]. which ever the book is, every book is written by our creator. how can we say they were coppied. they the people… Read more »
Spirit
Spirit
4 years 1 month ago
Ibrahim God says in quran that,”we make the people to forget the verses so that to reaveal some thing better than it or similar to it”[ surah al baqrah] You still find no contradiction it? Does not indicate that your model of God (ie Allah) is at fluctuation. If something… Read more »
Santosh
Santosh
4 years 1 month ago
mr. Ibrahim kaya ye kah sakte hai ki quran me ye bhi likha hai ki kisi hindu mandi or kisi hindu bahu beti ko baltakar kar ke use jabrjasti islam accept kareye agr na karti ho to tejab dal de uske upar hindu dharam ek aisa dharm hai ki bass… Read more »
Spirit
Spirit
4 years 1 month ago
Ibrahim —-u can have a thin person or fat person. and u can have a tall person or short person. but u cant have tall short person similarly thin fat person. similarly god is immortal and human beings are motal. how can u have a person who is mortal and… Read more »
KalBhairav
KalBhairav
4 years 1 month ago
@ibrahim: “when ever dharma comes down, then i will come to raise.” its correct, bt god dosent comes, but he sends a man. Why cannot God incarnate and come to us here on earth? Is he not omnipotent? If God himself came to visit and live with me in my… Read more »
Spirit
Spirit
4 years 1 month ago
ibrahim you said Allah created us just to worship him, ok? Now there is a problem. Suppose i made a computer so that it just can serve my purpose. But if doesn’t, who’s fault it is? Mine or computer’s? I shall be waiting for your answer. Again imagine, I made… Read more »
ibrahim
ibrahim
4 years 1 month ago
brother, u can have a thin person or fat person. and u can have a tall person or short person. but u cant have tall short person similarly thin fat person. similarly god is immortal and human beings are motal. how can u have a person who is mortal and… Read more »
Arya
Arya
6 years 2 months ago

@Anirudh
namaste brother,
Let's discover Krishna within ourselves rather than waiting for anybody. Eeshvar never comes in human form, and Shri Krishna was an enlightened soul, who became legend due to his own deeds.

Ram
Ram
5 years 8 months ago
You didn’t understand about GOD @Arya. Krsna is not enlightened soul he is Supreme God himself. We cannot never become God. Bhagwat Gita Chapert 9 TEXT 11 avajananti mam mudha manusim tanum asritam param bhavam ajananto mama bhuta-mahesvaram SYNONYMS avajananti–deride; mam–Me; mudhah–foolish men; manusim–in human form; tanum–body; asritam–assuming; param–transcendental; bhavam–nature;… Read more »
आर्यव्रतस्थ
आर्यव्रतस्थ
5 years 8 months ago

@Ram : How can you prove that it was indeed Krishna who said these words.. the bhagwat geeta is neither written by Krishan nor by Arjuna..??!!!! Then only two people involved in the discourse in first person.

आर्यव्रतस्थ
आर्यव्रतस्थ
5 years 8 months ago

@Ram Typo The only two people involved in the discourse in first person.

Arya
Arya
5 years 8 months ago
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