Sikhism and Vedas

The Sikh Gurus have inspired us in an era that was perhaps the most challenging phase of our history. Sikhism represents a tradition that every Indian is proud of. One cannot forget the contributions of Sikh Gurus and their selfless sacrifices to consolidate the society, provide them direction and overthrow the rule of invaders. That is why the Sikh Gurus are revered not only by Sikhs but all nationalists in general as role models.

The medieval era represents the darkest phase of our society. Internally we were being eroded by termites of casteism, gender discrimination and overt ritualism dissociated from Vedas. And externally, we were being butchered by a tribe of most uncivilized society of west Asia – read the Ghaznis, Khiljis, Mughals, Slaves, Tughlaqs etc.

The Sikh gurus, in these turbulent times, lit the lamp of Vedic wisdom and steered the society towards the fundamental tenets of our culture – rationalism, actions and compassion.

Often there is dispute over whether Sikhism is part of Hinduism or a separate religion. In our view, this is a meaningless debate. Because the word Hinduism has different connotations. From a western mindset, Hinduism represents a mix of very specific rituals associated with casteism, gender discrimination and idol worship. If this be Hinduism, then Sikhs are definitely not Hindus.

However, if Hinduism is considered to mean the culture that is inspired from the philosophy of Vedas, then perhaps not many sects are more Hindu than Sikhs. Sikhism represents the message of Vedas in simple language of layman.

Let us see what makes Sikhism an extremely pure representation of Vedic wisdom (We shall ignore later day aberrations and focus on the key message of the noble Gurus):

– Sikhism rejects birth-based casteism and believes in equality of all

– Sikhism believes in gender equality

– Sikhism believes in protection of cows because it is one of the most useful gifts of God to humans

– Sikhism believes in actions as means to achieve God. Thus, they reject withdrawal from life.

– Sikhism believes in one single timeless shapeless omnipresent God whose best name is Onkaar (Om + Kaar). This is almost verbatim translation of Yajurveda 40.8.

– Sikhism believes in theory of Karma and rebirth

– Sikhism refuses the concept of Heaven/ Hell and believe in salvation as ultimate goal

– Sikhism believes in Nama Smaran or understanding the names and properties of God as way to achieve Him

– Sikhism considers Maya or ignorance as obstacle to salvation and urges to eradicate it through devotion, noble actions and knowledge

– Sikhism takes it as our utmost duty to fight against injustice of any kind. The lives of Sikh gurus exemplify this.

– Sikhism considers entire humanity as one family and refuses to have different treatments for people of different beliefs and religions.

The list can continue further. Note that if you replace Sikhism in above lines with ‘Vedic Dharma’ you would realize that the points still hold valid.
1. God created Vedas (Onkaar ved nirmaye– Rag Ramkali Mahla 1 Onkar Shabd 1)Further, the Guru Granth Sahib very clearly elucidates on the glory of Vedas:

2. With order of God Vedas were created so that humans can decide what is virtue and sin (Hari aagya hoye Ved paap punya vichaariya– Maru Dakhne Mahla 5 Shabd 17)

3. No one can value the importance of Rigveda, Yajurveda, Samveda and Atharvaveda (Sam Ved, Rig, Yajur, Atharvan brahme mukh maaiya hai traigun, taakee keemat kah na sakai ko….- Marusolahe Mahla 1 Shabd 17)

4. God created day, night, forests, greenery, water and 4 Vedas that are like 4 treasures (Chaar Ved chaare khaani– Rag Maru Mahla 5 Shabd 17)

5. How can glory of Vedas be stated whose knowledge is without end (Ved vakhaan kahahi ik kahiye, oh ve ant ant kin lahiye– Vasant Ashtapadiyan Mahla 1.3)

6. Of the infinite texts, Vedas are the best (Asankh granth mukhi Ved paath– Japuji 17)

7. All the Shastras, Vedas and ancient texts describe the Supreme Lord (Smriti sastra Ved puraan paar brahm ka karahi vakhiyaan– Gaund Mahla 5 Shabd 17)

8. Noble persons elucidate the glory of Vedas but unfortunate people do not understand (Ved bakhiyaan karat saadhujan bhaagheen samjhat nahi khalu– Todi Mahla 5 Shabd 26)

9. Study of Vedas enhances knowledge by blessings of God (Kahant Veda gunant guniya…- Sahaskriti Mahla 5.14)

10. Analysis of Vedas, Shastras and ancient texts enriches the entire family and makes them lucky (Ved puran saasatr vichaaram…. badbhaagi Naanak ko taaram– Gatha Mahla 5.20)

11. Vedas describe the glory of one God (Kal mein ek naam kripaanidhi … ih vidhi Ved bataavai– Rag Sortha Mahla 9 Shabd 5)

12. Do not say that Vedas are false. False are those people who do not analyze (Ved katev kahahu mat jhoothe jhootha jo na vichaare– Rag Prabhati Kabirji Shabd 3)

13. Those who studied Vedas were called Vedis. They initiated noble virtuous acts. Listening to Rigveda, Samveda, Yajurveda and Atharveda destroyed all sins. (Jinai Ved padhyo suvedi kahaaye… Padhe Sam Vedam Yajur Ved Kattham Rigam Ved paathayam kare bhaav hattham… Atharav Ved pathayam suniyo paap nathiyam…- Dasham Guru Granth Sahib Vichitra Natak Adhyaya 4)

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To check more examples of glory of Vedas in Guru Granth Sahib refer the following:

14. Chauth upaaye chaare Veda- Rag Bilawal Mahla 1 Thiti

15. Chache chaar Ved jin saaje chaare khani chaar juga- Rag Asa Mahla 1 Pati Likhi Shabd 9

16. Oordh mool jis saakh talaaha chaar Ved jit laage- Gujri Ashtapadiyan Mahla 1.1

17. Chare Ved hoye sachiyaar- Asadi Var Mahla 1 Var 13

18. Chaturved mukh vachni uchre- Rag Gaudi Mahla 5 Shabd 164

19. Chaturved pooran hari naai Ramkali Mahla 5  Shabd 17

20. Chaar pukaarahi na tu maane Ramkali Mahla 5 Shabd 12

21. Chaar Ved jihwa bhane- Rag Sarang Mahla 5 Shabd 131

22. Brahme ditte Ved Rag Malar Var Mahla 2 Var 3

23. Chaare Ved Brahme kau diye padh padh kare vichari- Rag Asa Mahla 3 Shabd 22

24. Chaare Ved Brahme np furmaayia- Maaru Solahe 3.22

25. Chaare deeve chahu hath diye eka eki vaari- Vasant Hindol 1.1

26. Vedu pukaare vaachiye vaani brahm biaas- Shreeraag Ashtpadiyan 1.7

27. Vedan ganh bole sach koi- Maajh Vaar Mahla 1 Vaar 12

28. Deeva jale andhera jaai Ved paath mati paapan khaai- Raag Suhi

29. Ved pukaarai punn paap surag narak ka veeu- Raag Saarang Vaar 1.16

30. Gurumukhi parche Ved vichari- Raag Ramkali Sidh Gosht Shabd 28

31. Puchhahu Ved pandatiyaan muthi vin maane- Rag Maaru Ashtpadiyan 1.6

32. Man hath kine na paaiyo puchhahu Vedaam jaai- Shri Raag Vaar 3.10

33. Smriti saasat Ved vakhaanai bharmai bhoola tat na jaanai- Rag Maajh Ashtpadiyan 3.18

34. Veda mahi naam uttam so- Rag Ramkali Mahla 3 Aanand 19

35. Hari jeeu ahankaar n bhaavai Ved kook sunaavahi- Rag Maaru 3.9

36. Jugi jugi aapo aapna dharm hai sodh dekhahu Ved puraan- Rag Vilaaval 3.4

37. Saasat Ved puraan pukaarahi dharam karahu shat karam dradaiya- Vilaaval Mahla 4.2

38. Naanak vichaarahi sant jan chaar Ved kahande- Rag Gaudi Vaar 4.12

39. Vaani brahm Ved dharam dradahu paap tajaaiya bal raam jeeu- Suhi Chhant 4.2

40. Das ath chaar Ved sabh poochhahu jan naanak naam chhudaai jeeu- Maaru 4.8

41. Smrat saasat Ved vakhaane jog gyaansidh sukh jaane- Rag Gaudi 5.111

42. Ved puraan smrat bhane- Gaudi 5.144

43. Saasat smrat Ved vichaare mahaapurushan iu kahiya- Rag Gaudi 5.162

44. Ved saasat jan pukaarahi sunai nahi dora- Rag Aasa 5.152

45. Saasat Ved smriti sabhi….- Gujri 5.2

46. Chaar pukaarahi na tu maanahi- Ramkali 5.12

47. Kahant Veda gunant guniya- Salok sahaskriti Mahla 5.14

48. Ved puraan saasatr vichaaram- Gatha Mahla 5.20

49. Ved puraan saadh sang- Rag Gaudi 9.6

50. Ved puraan padhai ko ih gun simre hari ko naama- Rag Gaudi 9.7

51. Ved puraan jaas gun gaavat taako naam hiye mein dhar re- Gaudi 9.9

52. Ved puraan smriti ke mat sun nimash na hiye vasaavai- Rag Sorath 9.7

Now Guru Granth Sahib also consists of several verses that appear to be condemnation of Vedas. These are often cited to prove that Sikhism is a separate cult.

However, this is a very childish argument. How can Guru Granth Sahib condemn Vedas when it also praises it to an extent that it calls Vedas divine and that those who do not appreciate Vedas as foolish?

In reality, the condemnation of Vedas relate to those people who only mug up Vedas but do not live their lives accordingly. Or those people who distort the message of Vedas by claiming to have expertise. The likes of western indologists and communist historians who see beef and wine in Vedas perfectly exemplify the target of this condemnation.

And why Guru Granth Sahib, Vedas themselves condemn such hypocrites. Rigveda 1.164.39 very clearly announces – “What can the Richas of Vedas do for a person who does not possess intellect”.

Upanishads and Geeta also condemn a person who claims expertise in Vedas but do not preach.

If one reviews the Guru Granth Sahib dictionary by renowned Sikh scholar Tara Singhji, you would find a striking similarity between what he wrote on Vedas and what was written by Swami Dayanand.

Thus we see that Sikhism represents the essence of Vedic wisdom in simple language of common man and rejects all those external features that are wrongly associated with Hinduism.

Our humble reverence to the great Sikh Gurus who saved the society by lighting the lamp of Vedic wisdom when there was utter darkness. Lets now work to carry forward their noble legacy by living by this wisdom and bringing transformation in self, society and world through service, devotion and actions.

(For a thorough treatment of this subject, we strongly recommend the book “Arya Siddhant aur Sikh Guru” by Swami Swatantranand, a legendary freedom fighter, leader of Hyderabad Satyagrah movement and established Vedic scholar.)

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JASSI
1 year 6 months ago
guru nanak says that we should only take the naam the true wisdom from vedas the useless things like yag and other things are useless for mukti ….guru granth sahib is the pure hukam of parmeshvar and only gurmat vidhi to attain salvation which is existed time of bhagats dhru… Read more »
Abdu Abdu
Abdu Abdu
2 months 15 days ago

Yoga involves the methods to realize the God and get liberation. Guru Nanak Dev Ji misunderstood Yoga. Patanjali Rishi said in Sutra 2:1 Asceticism, Study of Science of liberation, repetition and contemplation on God holy name “Aum” constitute preliminary Yoga.

JASSI
1 year 6 months ago
if u wana learn tru gurmat go to http://www.sachkhojacademy.org now we have most greatest a gyan guru on earth guru granth sahib and we dont need anything apart from it ….but if u wana learn tru sikhism meanign then go to that sight i listed ,,,,,,,sikhism is most oldest relegion… Read more »
Ramesh Kumar Anand
Ramesh Kumar Anand
1 year 6 months ago

Guru Granth Sahib is real GURU at present—-needs to follow with dedication

RAMESH ANAND
RAMESH ANAND
1 year 7 months ago

We should worship Ek onkar,nirakaar prabhu

Singh Kamal
Singh Kamal
1 year 7 months ago
Dear Author, From the article it appears as if your intention is to prove Sikhi is a part of Hinduism. Dhan Guru Granth Sahib Ji does have references of Vedas; however if a full glass of water sits next to a half empty one it only means that some of… Read more »
WannabeHuman
WannabeHuman
1 year 7 months ago

Salute _/\_ !

Gurmeet Singh
Gurmeet Singh
2 years 4 months ago
What will you say to the below quote which was mentioned above? He practices the eighty-four postures of Yoga, and acquires the supernatural powers of the Siddhas, but he gets tired of practicing these. He lives a long life, but is reincarnated again and again; he has not met with… Read more »
Gurmeet Singh
Gurmeet Singh
2 years 4 months ago
He practices the eighty-four postures of Yoga, and acquires the supernatural powers of the Siddhas, but he gets tired of practicing these. He lives a long life, but is reincarnated again and again; he has not met with the Lord. || 6 || He may enjoy princely pleasures, and regal… Read more »
Gurmeet Singh
Gurmeet Singh
2 years 4 months ago
Dear Krishnarao, Why are you not going through the answers I gave long ago with reference? May be you don’t want to understand or didn’t understand? Once again I am giving you another quotes from “Gurbani”. If you are not agree with the Gurbaani then how can u agree with… Read more »
jaswinder singh
2 years 6 months ago
ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਚਾਰ ਹੀ ਬੇਦ ਬਨਾਏ ॥ ਸਰਬ ਲੋਕ ਤਿਹ ਕਰਮ ਚਲਾਏ ॥ ਜਿਨ ਕੀ ਲਿਵ ਹਰਿ ਚਰਨਨ ਲਾਗੀ ॥ ਤੇ ਬੇਦਨ ਤੇ ਭਏ ਤਿਆਗੀ ॥ 19॥ ਜਿਨ ਮਤ ਬੇਦ ਕਤੇਬਨ ਤਿਆਗੀ ॥ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਕੇ ਭਏ ਅਨੁਰਾਗੀ ॥ (ਬਚਿਤ੍ਰ ਨਾਟਕ – ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ) krishan ne arjun se kaha ke tu vedo… Read more »
RAMESH ANAND
RAMESH ANAND
1 year 7 months ago

Maya se bahar nikal kar prabhu ke pooran sharanagat hona padhega—prabhu se milane ka ek akela tareeka hai—-Karam,Gian aur Bhakti-important role

raj.hyd
raj.hyd
1 year 7 months ago

prabhu se milna nahi hiota uske sadvichaar se apna jivan jarur shuddh hota hai ! ishvarke gun alag hai aur jeev ke gun alag hai fir kaise usse milna ho skega ! kya tel aur jal kabhi mil sakte hai jab ki dono taral hai !

Krishnarao
Krishnarao
2 years 6 months ago
And to add to my point, even Sikhs make statements about Krishna, Rama, Vedas, and Gita. And many times it is statements that Hindus completely disagree with. But we recognize you have the right to your opinion and we have the right to our opinion. Sikhs are not the only… Read more »
Krishnarao
Krishnarao
2 years 6 months ago
Gurmeet, I saw a post by Adam about why you are on here. In so many words you think we are misrepresenting The Gurus and SGGS. Well you have your right to your opinion and we have our right to our opinion. You DO NOT OWN THE GURUS nor do… Read more »
Dogra
Dogra
2 years 6 months ago
Gurmeet see u have resorted to lying to avoid answering my questions to you on Hinduism Let me categorically state agniveer should just focus on sanatan dharma based on Vedas . Sikhism is based on guru Granth sahib ji , so do not validate agniveer on this specific article as… Read more »
Sandeep Bansal
Sandeep Bansal
2 years 6 months ago

दीवा बलै अंधेरा जाइ ॥
When the lamp is lit, the darkness is dispelled;

बेद पाठ मति पापा खाइ ॥

reading the Vedas, sinful intellect is destroyed.

उगवै सूरु न जापै चंदु ॥

When the sun rises, the moon is not visible.

जह गिआन प्रगासु अगिआनु मिटंतु ॥

Wherever spiritual wisdom appears, ignorance is dispelled. Page 791

Krishnarao
Krishnarao
2 years 6 months ago
Hi Sandeep, Thanks for posting those verses from the SGGS. Specifically post: “reading the Vedas, sinful intellect is destroyed.” p. 791-3 from the SGGS. Translated by Dr. Kulbir Singh Thind, MD from website: http://www.srigurugranth.org/0791.html So my question to Gurmeet is, is Dr. Kulbir Singh Thind, MD someone you consider an… Read more »
Sandeep Bansal
Sandeep Bansal
2 years 6 months ago
ਦੀਵਾ ਬਲੈ ਅੰਧੇਰਾ ਜਾਇ ॥ दीवा बलै अंधेरा जाइ ॥ Ḏīvā balai anḏẖerā jā▫e. When the lamp is lit, the darkness is dispelled; ਬੇਦ ਪਾਠ ਮਤਿ ਪਾਪਾ ਖਾਇ ॥ बेद पाठ मति पापा खाइ ॥ Beḏ pāṯẖ maṯ pāpā kẖā▫e. reading the Vedas, sinful intellect is destroyed. ਉਗਵੈ ਸੂਰੁ ਨ… Read more »
RamNarayan
RamNarayan
2 years 7 months ago

Dear Gurumeet,

Your Dec 12: 8:29 AM post has the following:

All those points are already mentioned by Mr. Krishnarao and was duly replied just go back and read it.

Do you consider this as your response to Dogra ji’s questions. What a laughable stock you are.

Dogra
Dogra
2 years 7 months ago
Gourmet can u respond to the 6 main points in Hinduism in few posts and kindly let me know if u disagree with them and why Also gender equality is enshrined in sanatan dharma as evidently shown by female and male aspects of god . U can choose ignorance as… Read more »
DOGRA
DOGRA
2 years 7 months ago

Gurmeet,

can you comment ion fowllowing website, :
http://sanatansikhi.blogspot.co.uk/2011/04/sikhs-stop-brahmin-bashing.html

dogra
dogra
2 years 7 months ago
Gurmeet Singh
Gurmeet Singh
2 years 8 months ago
Please read the truth about your VEDAS. http://asimiqbal2nd.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/women-in-hinduism.pdf This is small introduction to what was before birth of Guru Nanak. Now I will share lot of other material as well. The almighty cannot abandoned humanity. You must read it and see what was his child doing before Guru Nanak’s birth.… Read more »
Gurmeet Singh
Gurmeet Singh
2 years 8 months ago

Dear KrishnaRao/RamNarayan,

I know according to belief of Hindus ‘Vedas’ are eternal and Simritis, Puranas are basic of Hinduism.

Why don’t you come up with something? However it is not authentic but I want to see if you have anything to prove.

Thanks,

Gurmeet

RamNarayan
RamNarayan
2 years 8 months ago
Krishna Rao ji, Namaste! Do not waste time to expect any answer from Gurumeet. We will find many of this kind who seem to be showing interest in knowing the real facts but cannot come out of their obsessions or preoccupied ideas. Their interest is not truthful because they don’t… Read more »
Krishnarao
Krishnarao
2 years 8 months ago
Hi RamNarayan, I think you are right. But I think it’s deeper than that. I don’t think he actually knows the answer to the question of what religion was there before Sikhi that was like Sikhi. Vast majority of his quotes just say the conditions were really bad before Sikhi,… Read more »
Sword of Allah
Sword of Allah
2 years 8 months ago

Sikhs,

The gurus were not prophets. The last prophet is Mohammed (pbuh). Sikh converts to islam:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdqrdTwG5HA

Sword of Allah
Sword of Allah
2 years 8 months ago

Hindus,

Your religion of idol worship is sin. Convert to islam like your fellow hindu:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x1asHyRrto

Sword of Allah
Sword of Allah
2 years 8 months ago

Hindus and Sikhs,

You are sinners.

Hindus worshiping your status and gods is idol worship, it’s sin. Many are have converted to islam:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0_xrdfjGPQ

Sikhs, there is no prophet after Muhammad (pbuh). Your gurus lied to you. Many sikhs have converted to islam:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdqrdTwG5HA

Allahu Akbar

Jesus is Your Savior
Jesus is Your Savior
2 years 8 months ago
Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus,… Read more »
salman
salman
2 years 8 months ago

jesus=david=solomen=abraham and all the prophets peace and mercy of GOD be upon him,were the messenger from GOD and all are equal even according to the bible also.it has been proooved.

Mr. Khan
Mr. Khan
2 years 8 months ago
Hi, First I want to say, I think religion is bullshit. Having said that, here is what I learned about different religions growing up in a muslim family. Jesus and many before Mohammed were prophets. But after him, there are no more prophets. So I asked our Imam what about… Read more »
Jay Arya
Jay Arya
2 years 8 months ago

your imam was wrong it seems todays islam is controlled by imams, maulana and muftis and preachers who fool muslims and non muslims with their lies

salman
salman
2 years 8 months ago
who are you mr.khan?probably tou are just a fake identity.which imam says you this statement?if guru nanak was believed in only one GOD,having good deeds with full of their understandings and submits their will to the allah almighty with beleive in the day of judgment,obviously he was a muslim otherwise… Read more »
RamNarayan
RamNarayan
2 years 8 months ago

Dear Adam, Namaste!
Now Gurumeet will say, KrishnaRao, Me and you are all living together. He probably doesn’t know that ppl could be living apart and think alike.

Dhanyawad

Krishnarao
Krishnarao
2 years 8 months ago
Hi Gurmeet, The essence of the Vedas is Love, and that love is expressed through Yoga: the four main components of Yoga: Meditation on One God, Service to mankind and environment, devotional music and artistic expression, and Study of spirituality and science. All of this done WITHOUT idol worship or… Read more »
Krishnarao
Krishnarao
2 years 8 months ago
Hi Gurmeet, The main question I would like you to answer is: According to your Sikh belief, what was before Sikhi? Was there anything as pure and true as Sikhi prior to Sikhi, or did God abandon humanity for most of humanity’s existence and decide to help humanity only in… Read more »
Krishnarao
Krishnarao
2 years 8 months ago
Hi Gurmeet, I am not responsible for some else’s post. Please ask them about that post. I never heard of Dayanand Saraswati (born in 1824) ever trying to commit suicide. Please provide your source. And Arya Samaj is a reform movement. Not a religion. Prior to Arya Samaj people followed… Read more »
Krishnarao
Krishnarao
2 years 8 months ago
Hi Gurmeet, I have read through those verses and No where do I find Krishna saying he is God or worship him. Go buy yourself a copy of the Srimad Bhagvad Gita translated by Ravi Prakash Arya. The link is below: http://www.amazon.com/Srimad-Bhagvad-Gita-Scientific-Commentary/dp/3846595888/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1383869249&sr=1-1&keywords=Bhagvad+Gita+Ravi+prakash+Arya Krishna is talking about the Atman that is… Read more »
Krishnarao
Krishnarao
2 years 8 months ago
“I heard also that Shudras have no right to enter into temples also.” -This might be the case with some puranic Hindu temples. But that is a very small percentage among even puranic Hindus. Vedic Hindus do not in any way discriminate against anyone from any part of society or… Read more »
Amit
Amit
2 years 8 months ago
I am new to this blog and website; however i ardently read the comments from all, (including Gurmeet); after reading many teachings, seriously following religions myself like hinduism and sikhism; I would like to share my opinion on doubts from Gurmeet. Think of a road (Road A) that leads you… Read more »
Gurmeet Singh
Gurmeet Singh
2 years 9 months ago
Dear All, If any body want to understand Sikhism and Gurbani then somebody must read and understand full Pauri or Shabad not by taking some Tuks from the Bani and making translation which suits himself. IT IS A VERY CLEAR FACT WHICH WAS MENTIONED ABOVE BY Aryavratta ON April 3,… Read more »
dogra
dogra
2 years 9 months ago
Authenticity is questionable is usual rubbish that explodes from individuals who have nothing better to say about sanatan dhaRMA Vedas were written on banks of ancient river sarawasti in Punjab, and thats a fact, as river proven by scientific evidence, geographical location in vedas itself proves this. So stop babbling… Read more »
Gurmeet Singh
Gurmeet Singh
2 years 9 months ago

Thanks for letting me know the location but you also didn’t mentioned :

When it was written and by whom?

Gurmeet Singh
Gurmeet Singh
2 years 9 months ago
I am sorry for delay in reply. I just gone through the text and want your comments on the below: “Highly sophisticated seals on which there is evidence of writing have also been found, indicating that these people were literate, but unfortunately the seals have never been deciphered.” Since you… Read more »
Ankur
Ankur
2 years 9 months ago
@Gurmeet : Brother, i never said that Guru Nanak dev asked people to follow vedic teaching ? did i ? The point that is being made is that Guru Nanak Understood the Vedic Dharma in its true sense , above the prevailing dogma & confusion of the convoluted form of… Read more »
Gurmeet Singh
Gurmeet Singh
2 years 9 months ago
Before stepping in this blog I read some of the text and found out that people who are disagree with your opinion you projected them as separatist. I was expecting the same thing for myself as well but you people just ran away. It was the only reason to participate… Read more »
Gurmeet Singh
Gurmeet Singh
2 years 9 months ago

Why there was no reply button in your last comments?

Do you want to close it by your own?

Ankur
Ankur
2 years 9 months ago
@Gurumeet : we must understand that what can be spoken can be written in any script. if you assume that “devnagri” in which Sanskrit is written today is as old as the language itself,then you are mistaken. Just like Punjabi was spoken even before Gurumukhi was derived from Sharda lipi.… Read more »
dogra
dogra
2 years 9 months ago

Gurmeet as river saraswati is mentioned in Vedas then evidence as to where and roughly when becomes clearer, and fact Vedas is in India and not elsewhere provides indirect evidence.

Now can you comment on the verses shown previously and where is caste mentioned in Vedas

dogra
dogra
2 years 9 months ago
Gurmeet, U ask when and who wrote the vedas, there is not a clear refernce point for this, but when is during time when river saraswati was flowing it died during: “http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/2073159.stm Through satellite photography, scientists have mapped the course of an enormous river that once flowed through the north… Read more »
dogra
dogra
2 years 9 months ago
Gurmeet whether u believ in Vedas or not is of not concern to us, it is your free choice as RV 1.164.46 says:The Rigveda itself indicates that Truth is one – “ekam sad vipra bahudha vadanti agnim yamam matariswanam ahuh”[1] (meaning Truth is one, but the learned refer to it… Read more »
Gurmeet Singh
Gurmeet Singh
2 years 9 months ago

You didn’t reply to my query ;

When it was written and by whom?

Krishnarao
Krishnarao
2 years 9 months ago
Hi Gurmeet Singh, Vedic Dharam and Sikhs do have many similarities: 1. Both believe in reincarnation. And not just reincarnation, but Karma based reincarnation. Both believe how you are in this life will affect your next life. And it is measurable response to what kind of person you are in… Read more »
Gurmeet Singh
Gurmeet Singh
2 years 9 months ago
Dear Krishnarao, There are similarities in all religions one or another way. By pointing out some similarities does not prove your point. Muslims, Christians and Jews etc all buried their bodies so are they same? If Guru Nanak has to follow Vedas then why guru Grant Sahib was written and… Read more »
Krishnarao
Krishnarao
2 years 9 months ago

Brother, Sikhi is indeed a great religion. I have read many parts of the SGGS is and am very impressed with it. I know there are many many similarities in some of the most important areas with Vedic Dharam. In a later post, I will point to those.

Best,
Krishnarao

Lie Buster
2 years 11 months ago

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Aadhaar Card
3 years 22 days ago

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BravePanjabi
3 years 3 months ago
Any doubts please check how Jahangir refered Gure Arjun Dev in his book (Tuzuk-i-Jahangiri (Memoirs of Jahangir) ).. In Gobindwal, which is on the river Beas, a Hindu named Arjan used to live in the garb of a spiritual master and mystic guide, under the influence of which he had… Read more »
SachaBanda
SachaBanda
3 years 7 months ago
Is this what the ‘Gianis’ have been teaching you or are you just merely speculating on here? For years Brahmins have been targeted for hatred through a conspiracy which was sowed by the British Raj Christian missionaries – they realised Brahmins were the strength of India & its rich heritage… Read more »
Jay Arya
Jay Arya
3 years 6 months ago

no guru nanak was not brahmin none of them were brahmin they were kshastriya

RAMESH KUMAR ANAND
RAMESH KUMAR ANAND
2 years 8 months ago
Guru Nanak Dev ji a great saint was born in Khatri Family(Mehta) but does not believe unnecessary rituals .He has played very important role in eliminating Pakhand spread in our HINDU samaj as well in other religion. He has also condemned Moorti pooja as same is not needed to do… Read more »
RAMESH
RAMESH
3 years 6 months ago
Sacha Banda ji, I agree with your views about our great/respected Gurus.Guru Nanak Dev ji had clearly/directly propogate the concept of God, Atama and Maya(prakriti).God is jyotiswaroop.He had condemned all evils spread in our samaj at that time even now.Guru Nanak Dev ji ‘s views are all accordingly confirming Vedas… Read more »
dogra
dogra
3 years 7 months ago

“Hindu”, is not real name for hindu faith, it is Sanantan dharma, and Vedas atre our prime holy texts

Sanatan Dharma
Sanatan Dharma
3 years 7 months ago

@sudir
Veda have nothing to do with Hindu. Hindu word nowhere mentioned in Veda. Veda are for all humanity. Veda are universal & eternal truths.

RAMESH
RAMESH
3 years 6 months ago

Veda are meant for all human being. Prayer like Sarve bhavantu sukhina,sarve santu niramaya and shanti mantra Aum dhau shanti antriksham shanti prithavi——-ved mantra proves the point.veda does not belong to any religion but human being.

sudir
3 years 7 months ago

this is bullshit there is not a single word of hindu in whole vedas 😀 so how can hindu claim there authority over vedas 😀 and there is also nothing like hinduism too .People who live near river sindhu are called hindu and i am original hindu 😀

RAMESH KUMAR ANAND
RAMESH KUMAR ANAND
2 years 8 months ago
Vedas are meant for all Human being and it is true that there is no mention of word HINDU as God consider all human being as soul and they are same irrespective of colour/places/languages etc. Vedic prayer given below pray for human being; Sarve Bhavantu Sukhina,Sarve Bhavantu Niramaya——All human being… Read more »
Albert
Albert
3 years 7 months ago
@ Sanatan Dharma The modern physists do not desrve noble prize. God made the earth only by water while these scientists claim it has more than 100 elements!!! Similarly, he made man with water only, God knows how there are much more elements in human body now! It seems the… Read more »
Sanatan Dharma
Sanatan Dharma
3 years 7 months ago
@Albert Who are you to claim earth is made more than 100 elements.You scientist do not now anything. Muslim will believe what prophet has said. Prophet said earth is made of water only. .Prophet words are final. If prophet said earth is flat that means flat there is no arguments.… Read more »
Albert
Albert
3 years 7 months ago
BIG BANG THEORY The earth and heaven were initially joined together. God separated these while the non believers watched this great deed! This event is known as BIG BANG.Every living thing was created by water then? Conclusion: 1. Nonbelievers pre dated creation of other living things 2. While Big bang… Read more »
Sanatan Dharma
Sanatan Dharma
3 years 7 months ago
@Albert He albert, how can you dare to reject the prophet claims? Muhammad told Muslim that stars are in the lower sky and are lamps that God throws at jins and demons. Quran 67: 5 And We have (from of old) adorned the lowest heaven (sky) with lamps, and We… Read more »
Albert
Albert
3 years 7 months ago
BIG BANG THEORY The earth and heaven were initially joined together. God separated these while the non believers watched this great deed! This event is known as BIG BANG.Every living thing was created by water then? Conclusion: 1. Nonbelievers pre dated creation of other living things 2. While Big bang… Read more »
Albert
Albert
3 years 7 months ago
Earth was made out of water in 6 days! Chinese scientists are puzzled. Earth consists of 118 elements as listed in periodic table. While water consists of only two elements, water and hydrogen. It seems God borrowed the balance 116 elements from the non believers to make the earth. Chinese… Read more »
Albert
Albert
3 years 7 months ago
@ quran is protected THE EARTH IS FLAT Title of the Book: “Evidence that the Earth is Standing Still.” Author: Sheikh Abdul Aziz Ben Baz. Editor: Islamic University of Medina. Year: 1395 AH [1974 CE] City: Medina, Saudi Arabia. Page: 23. He said in his book: “If the earth is… Read more »
quran-is-protected
quran-is-protected
3 years 7 months ago

@albert, vedic rishis believe that earth is situated on horns of the cow? you can accept anything from veda but can’t analyse if anything posted against Quran. quran says that moon has reflected light so it is in total conformity with science.

krishnarao
krishnarao
3 years 7 months ago
“vedic rishis believe that earth is situated on horns of the cow?” wow the ignorance of quran-is-protected is boundless. He doesn’t even give the quote from the Vedas that state this. He doesn’t tell us who translated the Vedas. He doesn’t give the group of Hindus body that supports that… Read more »
Amul Arya(Abu Masood)
Amul Arya(Abu Masood)
3 years 7 months ago

one of the reason me leaving islam is because islam goes against science and muslim preachers have lied to you and worse they think they can use science to get converts

RAMESH KUMAR ANAND
RAMESH KUMAR ANAND
2 years 8 months ago

I don’t find any difference between teachings of Ved and Guru Granth Sahib.Guru Granth Sahib provides teachings of Saints in simple language .Time has come to accept Guru Granth Sahib as true Granth of Hindus.In the mean times,can we have meaning of all vedic mantras particularly Vedic Prathana.

Praveen
Praveen
3 years 7 months ago

@ Amul

Agreed!

We need to understand that we have to move with time and get out out of fixed thoughts/beliefs etc.

We believe God is one and universal but the religious scriptures could be man made to suit the needs of public of the relevant time!

Amul Arya(Abu Masood)
Amul Arya(Abu Masood)
3 years 7 months ago

yes and good example is quran and bible

RAMESH KUMAR ANAND
RAMESH KUMAR ANAND
2 years 8 months ago
We should accept following principles of religion/Dharama as universal——– 1)God is one and He is same in all religions. 2)God is jyotiswaroop and having no shape.Moortipuja should not be allowed.All temples/Church/Gurudwara/Masjid should be used for prayers as well sadhana/meditation so that believers can establish direct connection with GOD for benefit… Read more »
Ankur
Ankur
3 years 7 months ago

@quran-is-protected : its hilarious ; earth on cow horns, are they the thoughts of Qur’an coz veda dont say so. besides we have similar scientific event in Qur’an where Moon was broken into two and the rejoined by MMD.

VBS
VBS
3 years 7 months ago
EARTH Zakir Naik has quoted the following verse: “Have We not made the earth as a wide expanse” “And the mountains as pegs?” So there are debates going on among muslim scholars whether the earth is flat or spherical, BUT ONE THING IS CLEAR, MOUNTAINS ARE PEGS SUCH THAT THE… Read more »
Albert
Albert
3 years 7 months ago
THE EARTH IS FLAT Title of the Book: “Evidence that the Earth is Standing Still.” Author: Sheikh Abdul Aziz Ben Baz. Editor: Islamic University of Medina. Year: 1395 AH [1974 CE] City: Medina, Saudi Arabia. Page: 23. He said in his book: “If the earth is rotating as they claim,… Read more »
VBS
VBS
3 years 7 months ago
Seven heaven address Moon as a light and Sun as the lamp. Chinese need to have some IQ. This address must be part of solar system. Only problem is moon does not have its own light, it shines due to Sun’s light only. So some wrong selection of seventh heaven’s… Read more »
Albert
Albert
3 years 7 months ago
Chinese are desperately searching the following address as mentioned in wiki because they want to establish their colony there: “Seven Heavens in the Qur’anThe Qur’an mentions the existence of seven heavens: See you not how Allah has created the seven heavens one above another, and made the moon a light… Read more »
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