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Don’t Judge Car by Its Driver!

This entry is part 7 of 19 in the series Zakir Naik Exposed

Satyagni! You are a liar and hypocrite because
You say Islam allows terrorism but what about Hindu terrorism – Tamil tigers, Naxalites, Maoists, ULFA terrorists who are all Hindus?

You say Islam demeans women because it allows polygamy but what about Hinduism? Dashrath had 3 wives Krishna had 16000 wives?

You say Islam teaches idol (Kaba) worship by bowing, kissing, and circumambulating it but what about many Hindus who do idol worship?

You say Islam teaches Shirk (associating partners with Allah/God) by including Muhammad (SAW) in prayers along with God whereas many Hindus think of Ram and Krishna as divine and worship them?

You say Islam is discriminatory because it assigns Non Arab Muslims the status of slaves/humble servants with lesser rights than Arabs but what about Dalits and Shudras in Hindus? Brahmins have treated them very badly, why don’t you write on Hinduism then?

You say Islam allows Jihad- fighting with non Muslims unless Deen of Allah prevails everywhere but what about Mahabharat? Kaurava and Pandava fought each other and killed thousands, what about Ashoka who killed thousands, then why do you condemn Islam alone?
etc etc..
These are few out of many allegations which Satyagni faces quite often from the Jihadi quarters like Zakir Naik and his Wahabi applauders. These arguments look very promising in first go but when scrutinized closely, only expose the stupidity, lies and deceiving nature of the person(s) using these.
Before we put these Jihadi arguments to the test of logic and reasoning, lets remind a beautiful and popular saying of Zakir Bhai MBBS, which is “Don’t judge car by its driver”.
In this article this line has quite a big role to play!
When the questions related to Islamic terrorism, many sects within Islam, grave worship by Muslims, etc are asked to Zakir Naik, he shouts very confidently- if you want to buy a car, you should look at the Car but Don’t judge car by its driver!
He says this to defend Islam from allegations of terrorism, anarchy, poverty, turmoil, gender discrimination etc.
Here the Car seems to be Islam and the driver to be Muslims. And Zakir Bhai suggests non Muslims to judge Islam by Quran, Hadith and Seerat (biography) of Muhammad instead of the actions of Muslims. So let us make this analogy clear to our readers-
Car = Islam (Quran + Hadith + Seerat)
Driver = Muslims
We declare that Satyagni and Satyagni have never judged the Car (Islam) by its driver (Muslims) but always by the Car itself. All our articles carry references from Quran and Sahih Hadith as made available by Islamic representatives. We never say Islam teaches terrorism, idol worship, Shirk, Slavery, Castiesm, polygamy etc because many Muslims are terrorists, idol worshippers, grave worshippers, racists, and polygamous. Rather we provide proofs from Quran and Sahih Hadith that it’s the Car itself which cant be handled by its drivers being very defective! Wherever we have condemned the drivers and the Car together, it was because those drivers are acclaimed as best of drivers. For example Muhammad- the best driver, then drivers like Muhammad Ghori, Babur, Akbar, Aurangzeb etc who are considered to be Ghazis (best of drivers) and role models by Muslims themselves.
Now its time to help Zakir and his Wahabi masterminds realize the fallacies in their car-driver example. This car analogy ensures few notable things
0. Just like any other Muslim, Zakir Naik is also a driver. Every scholar of Quran who has translated and produced bulky Tafsir (descriptions) is also a driver. Authors of Hadith being humans are again drivers. And above all, Muhammad being a human was also a driver! Now whole of this Car-driver Islamic analogy is based on the assumption that a driver (Muhammad) claimed some day that he has a Car (Quran), which is best! So we see in this case, a driver claimed to possess the best Car and few people of that time accepted his claim! So the very foundation of Islam is based on BLIND BELIEF IN A DRIVER without judging the Car. In this way the prerequisite of not judging a Car by driver put forth by Zakir Naik is not fulfilled even by the first generation of Muslim Ummah (community) 🙁
1. As written in point 0, when the translators, narrators of the Quranic verses and Hadith are driver themselves, why then judge Islam based on their works? We have to judge the actual Quran- the Car! Now what options a Non Arab (who does not know Arabic) has for judging this Car without believing in the drivers (translators) of it? Zakir Naik himself depends on the drivers (translators), and thus he actually wants people to do what he himself does not do!
2. Anyone calling him/herself Muslim is considered to be the driver of this Car called Islam! So whatever killing, rape and plunder the Ghazis like Muhammad Ghori, Mahmud of Ghazni, Taimur, Babur, Akbar, Aurangzeb, Azamal Qasab and Osama Bin Laden cause, they continue to be the drivers of the car called Islam!
3. On the other hand, a person, no matter howsoever pious and noble, if does not call him/herself Muslim, has no chance to drive the Islamic Car!
4. Since the Car has been destined to be parked in heaven by its manufacturer (Allah) ; it ensures entry of its driver too into the heaven, no matter how he drove!
5. Those who drive any Car other than Islam, will get their tires punctured by Allah- the manufacturer of Islamic Car and they along with their Car will land in the place called hell 🙁
6. Those driving the Islamic Car, if find it inappropriate and want to drive another Car, cannot move out of it because of the deadly lock called “death punishment for apostasy” in his/her Car!
Thus, after pondering over this analogy, one can easily understand that Zakir Naik’s Car is not to be judged! Judging a Car should be something which you can have a test drive with and after that you have options of purchasing or rejecting it. But Naik’s Car model is something that kidnaps you as soon as you board it for a test drive and once you are in, you have no way out before you die or you are ready to die 🙁 . So Zakir’s call for judging Islamic Car is actually a trap which has an entry but no exit!
Moreover, in case of Islam, it is equally important to judge the Driver (Muslims) in addition to Car (Quran+Hadith) because
1. Allah has given rights to Muslims to judge who is a believer and who is not
2. Allah has appointed Muslims to judge who is an apostate and who is not
3. Allah has ordered Muslims to kill apostates as per Shariyat
4. Muslims have been commanded by their commander in chief aka Allah to fight with sword until Islam prevails over the world [Quran 9:29]
5. Muslims are ordered to slay polytheists and idol worshippers wherever found [Quran 9:5]
Due to the above rights which a Muslim possesses from birth, any Kafir or atheist  or theist or an apostate -who could not appreciate my way or the high way type Allah and His Rasul- has all the rights to judge and question the drivers (Muslims) who are supposed to decide his/her life and death.
A Hindu is never allowed to kill apostates or unbelievers in his/her Vedas. Thus while a Hindu must judge Muslims because Muslims claim to be all knowing (judging one’s beliefs as right or wrong and kill or spare accordingly), a Muslim can/should never judge Hindus because Hindus dont claim to be all knowing and absolute in first place!
But anyway, in this article we will talk over the issues raised in the starting one by one and analyze them by assuming the Car analogy as correct! Dear readers will find now that how Zakir Bhai expects everyone to judge his Car by Car itself but himself judges Cars of others by their drivers. We name the Car called Islam as “I” and Vedas as “V”. Let’s begin

a. You say Islam allows terrorism but what about Hindu terrorism- Tamil tigers, Naxalites, Maoists, ULFA terrorists are all Hindus?

Comments:

1. Great! When it comes to any other religion, Jihadis judge the Car by its driver! Why not give proofs from Vedas that sanction terrorism like we provided from Quran and Hadith here http://satyagni.com/1728/quran-no-compulsion-in-religion/ and http://satyagni.com/1645/islam-practical/ ? Since no one has been able to give the references of terrorism from Vedas but we gave from Quran, Car “V” is better than Car “I”.
2. Has any Jihadi seen a Tamil tiger or a Naxalite or a Maoist or an ULFA terrorist blowing the mosques or temples or beheading others reciting Mantras of Vedas? No. But we see topmost terrorists of the world like Osama, Qasab, Mullah Umar, Maulana Masood Azhar etc reciting Quran and threatening non Muslims of Jihad- holy war sanctioned in Quran! There are many videos available on net which show the Jihadis first reciting verses of Quran and then beheading the hostage Kafirs. This is the difference between a Hindu terrorist and Muslim terrorist that Hindu finds no justification for such cowardly act of killing innocents in his book but Muslim does. And that is why the term Islamic Terrorism is reality but Hindu Terrorism is a hoax.
3. The total killings carried out by so called Hindu Terrorists put together till date are outnumbered by one Jihadi attack on Mumbai. Thus Muslim terrorism is more dangerous than Hindu terrorism.
4. We claim that all Nexalites, Maoists, Tamil tigers, and all Hindus who killed innocents anywhere in the world deserve severe punishments. They will not get bliss of Eeshvar and if any hell exists, they will go to hell. Now let Jihadis and Zakir Naik claim that Qasab, Osama Bin Laden, Taliban, Lashkar e Taiba, Jaish e Muhammad, Al Qaida terrorists will all go to hell! Can Zakir Naik say that or he will keep parroting he does not know Qasab and Osama?

b. You say Islam demeans women because it allows polygamy but what about Hinduism? Dashrath had 3 wives Krishna had 16000 wives? Islam is the only religion which says MARRY ONLY ONE.

Comments:

1. Hmm again judging the Car by drivers! Where are the references from Vedas which sanction polygamy? Here is the response to the polygamy in Hinduism http://Satyagni.com/621/polygamy/. And here find the rebuttal to Zakir’s arguments in favor of polygamy http://satyagni.com/4131/zakir-naik-on-polygamy/. Since no one has been able to give the references of polygamy from Vedas but we gave from Quran, Car “V” is better than Car “I”.
2. Dashrath was not a good driver of the Car! Story of Shri Krishna marrying 16000 women has been rejected by many scholars and we do not believe in those either. But saga of marriages of Muhammad starting from a 6 year old kid Aisha to 45 years old Amma Khadiza is surely a part of Eeman (faith) for Muslims! Allah’s command of “marry only one” was not applicable to the best driver of the Car (Muhammad)! Seems the best driver was provided with a different Car from others!
3. We claim that Dashrath did wrong. Story of Shri Krishna is wrong. Even if Shri Krishna did this, he did wrong. We will not follow him in this regard. Now let Jihadi brigade state that if Quran says- Marry only one, then Muhammad violated Allah’s commands and thus he did wrong. If Allah revealed special verses for him to marry more than four, then accept that Quran has contradictions and bias.

c. You say Islam teaches idol (Kaba) worship by bowing, kissing, and circumambulating it but what about many Hindus who do idol worship?

Comments:
1. Idol worship in Islam i.e. bowing to Kaba idol, kissing it, and circumambulating it are practiced as per Quran and Hadith. Please refer http://satyagni.com/1685/kaba-or-idol-worship/. However, idol worship is not found anywhere in Vedas. So Car “V” is better than Car “I”.
2. Many Hindus practice idol worship and so as Muslims. Both should think logically and embrace actual Dharma of worshipping true shapeless God.
3. Most of the Muslims worship graves, which is worse than idol worship! So, Muslim friends need to reject two worships viz. idol (Kaba) and grave. But Muslims cant reject idol worship unless they reject Quran and Hadith as shown in point 1.
4. We appeal to all Hindus who do idol worship to think rationally and align their beliefs with that of Vedas which advocate worshipping of One formless Eeshvar.  Now let Zakir Naik say that bowing, kissing, circumambulating the Kaba idol are Haram and the verses of Quran and Hadith which sanction these ill practices are wrong. Also he should claim that the grave worshipper Muslims do Shirk and are thus Kafirs.

d. You say Islam teaches Shirk by including Muhammad (SAW) in prayers with God whereas many Hindus think of Ram and Krishna as divine and worship them?

Comments:
1. Teaching of Shirk in Islam originates from Quran and Hadith itself. Please refer http://satyagni.com/3839/islam-the-religion-of-tauheed/ to know more. However Vedas talk about the worship of One God alone and reject any requirement of believing in agent or messenger of God in addition. Since no one has been able to give the references of Shirk from Vedas but we gave from Quran, Car “V” is better than Car “I”.
2. Muslims as well as Hindus do Shirk, but the roots of Shirk of Muslims are found in Quran and Hadith but that’s not the case with Vedas.
3. We have differences with those friends who consider Ram and Krishna as God. Vedas nowhere claim the incarnation of God as physical body but on contrary call Eeshvar as Akaayam, Avranam, Asnaaviram (shapeless, non physical and beyond the bondage of nerves). Now let Zakir Naik state that the Kalma- Laillah illallah Muhammadur rasulullah is wrong and it should be cut to Laillah illallah only! Let him claim that the verses of Quran which make it obligatory to believe in Muhammad along with God for Eeman (belief) are anti Islamic and thus need to be annulled.

e. You say Islam is discriminatory because it assigns Non Arab Muslims the status of slaves/humble servants with lesser rights than Arabs but what about Dalits and Shudras in Hindus?

Comments:
1. Inferior status to Non Arab Muslims has been assigned by none other than Quran and Hadith. Please refer http://satyagni.com/4091/i-am-a-non-arab-muslim/ for details. But there is no mention of birth based superiority/inferiority of humans in Vedas. Please visit http://Satyagni.com/888/caste-vedas/ to clarify any misconception in this regard. Since no one has been able to give the references of birth based discrimination among humans from Vedas but we gave from Quran, Car “V” is better than Car “I”.
2. We strongly condemn all those who suppressed any group or community by practicing/preaching such anti Vedic concepts. We declare them anti Vedic and claim them the biggest enemies of Vedas and humanity. We demand severe punishment for all those who preached this non sense in the name of Hinduism. Now we want to ask Zakir Naik and Jihadis- will you do same for Quran and Hadith? Will you condemn Allah, Muhammad and Abu Bakr for assigning you inferior status than Arabs?

f. You say Islam allows Jihad- fighting with non Muslims unless Deen of Allah prevails everywhere but what about Mahabharat? Kaurava and Pandava fought each other and killed thousands, Ashoka killed thousands, then why do you condemn Islam alone?

Comments:
1. Mahabharat is not claimed to be the last word of God anywhere by any Hindu! It was just a history. Ashoka is never considered as prophet by Hindus. But Quran is claimed to be final word of Allah by Muslims. Jihad- Holy war of Quran is to be waged on people for only fault of theirs’ of being Non Muslims! Quran [9:29] says- Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, [even if they are] of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
So teachings of Quran which needed to be much more humanitarian than any religious book are proven to be barbaric than most of even history books! And since no one has been able to give the references of killing in the name of faith and belief from Vedas but we gave from Quran, Car “V” is better than Car “I”.
2. Kaurava and Pandava did not fight for imposing their beliefs on others but Muslims do.
3. Countless Jihadi invaders inspired by such teachings of Islam from Arab, Turkey, and other places attacked India and showed the world how it looks when the verses like [9:29] are demonstrated in practice. Unfortunately the invaders who killed, looted, and raped the natives are now hailed as Ghazis by the descendants of those very unfortunate natives i.e. Indian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi, and Afgani Muslims.
4. We claim that Hindus like Duryodhan and Ashoka who shed blood for their petty greed of spreading kingdom are worst of humans. Can now Zakir Naik and his Mujahid condemn the Arab and Mughal Ghazis by saying them anti Islamic, if they did not follow Islam?
In the end, we conclude that all the allegations made on us are actually to be put on the alligators themselves! Jihadi fanatics condemn Hindus for their illogical and immoral practices but when condemned for theirs, they simply run away saying don’t judge car by its driver! Now we have shown that if Islam is to be judged by the Car, Vedic Dharma too should be judged by the Car and in that case, Vedic Dharma is the best. We showed that even if the Cars are judged by the drivers, still Vedas remain invincible. Days are gone when frauds like Zakir Naik could convert non Muslims by comparing drivers of others with his Car. Now we have seen that Zakir’s Car is as defective as his drivers and his Drivers deserve as much scrutiny as his Car!
So we appeal to everyone- especially to our Muslim Brothers and Sisters to leave the defective Car of Zakir and enjoy driving the fastest and smoothest Car- the Car of your ancestors- The Vedas!

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54 COMMENTS

    • Namaste to all
      Simply, excellent article! Superb! made the speechless to all fanatics. I would be happy if someone have dare to refute the points mentioned in article. It is the own advocate of Islam like jakir Naik who himself digging the grave of Islam by making speech like “do not judge car by its driver”. & giving a support to people like Satyagni to counter the Islam.

  1. Great work, its good to have some intellectual ammunition for the protection of our Dharma.
    Keep up the good work
    OM TAT SAT

  2. Good one. I especially like the accompanying picture of Jihadis atop Toyota pickup truck. I thought Toyota was designed and manufactured by Japanese Kufrs. How come Jihadis are atop it instead of being atop camels? 🙁
    ZN should say dont judge a camel by the jockey on top.

    • Namaste KalBhairav
      —————ZN should say dont judge a camel by the jockey on top.———–
      🙂 🙂 🙂
      Jihadi aka Mujahideen beggars carry Soviet invented-US made Kalashnikov and then threaten Russia and US 🙂
      They use Jewish/Christian/Hindu/Atheist made internet/Computers to spread the message that Allah will not accept any Jew or Christian or Hindu or Atheist on judgment night 🙂

  3. krishna having 16000 wives is rubbish..itf its really true then he have to marry daily for more then 40 years to have that many wives or if daily two or three marry then also it will take more than 20 years…..lol….So this is biggest joke……The reason i have heard is shri krishna released then from narakasur who had captured them..So when released, those women were pleased and considering him mentally as husband not physically……thats its said he have 16,000 wives but its only mentally considered by those women not physicall….Physically it cannot happen..

  4. Namaste Krishna Ji
    Krishna had released 16000 captured woman from a monster named Narkasur but Mohamad captured the woman, made them slave & sanctioned sex with slave woman. Muhmad done the opposite of Krishna. I think Mohamad was the reincarnation of Narkasur and we need to act like Krishna by destroying the monster like Jakir Naik who consider keeping of multiple wives is a good act but keeping of multiple husband by one not good & support sex with slave women.

    • To impute the splendid (saguna) Narayana with anti-human attributes (asura gunas) has become a secular fashion. Indian tradition has several examples of women, Like Mirabasi, Godadevi, etc, who were so enchanted with God that they wanted to be his wife.
      This to be as close to Narayana as possible — seeking his divine presence, not his body. I’m reminded of a beautiful story from the Srimadbhagavatam — by the way which has only a passing mention of Krishna’s muse, Radha.
      A gopika, enthralled at seeing the charming Krishna from far, could not get her eyes off him. After long, she blinked and behold, Krishna was captured in her eyes. That is the beauty of Bhakti. Krishna bhakti needs to be experienced and analyzed,and then commented.
      Last but not least, who is Krishna? One of the many interpretations of the word Krishna is
      || Karshati iti Krsnaha ||
      This means the one Paramatma who charms and melts the jivatmas into him. The many so-called wives are those seeking liberation and join with the Purushottama Krsna.
      There are several other interesting interpretations, which treat Krishna as a beautiful allegory. If you want, I can elaborate — as in the Upanisadic tradition of do not tell until you are asked to.

  5. @To All Muslim Brother
    Brother one question & give answer logically
    If I attack at one’s House as Mohamad did and killed the all men of family who were against my ideology then women of family would like to prefer sex with me, or try to kill me. As Mohamd killed the male of Arab who were against him and sexed with their wives forcefully, but Muslim claim slaved women sexed with Mohamad and his armies willingly. I think this Mohamad was biggest monster ever born in history.

  6. Satyagni Mahashay,
    Funny that, so far, not a single jihadi nutjob has come forward and indulged in the fine Islamic arts of taqqiya to counter any of your points. How can they, when there isn’t anythig to debate at all? Heh Heh, job well done, good sir!! The 16000 wives story is just too ridiculous for anyone to believe (besides these fanatics,that is!!). Also, you should have mentioned in the Mahabharat that the Pandavas went to war with their own cousins only because they were denied their father’s (Pandu’s) kingdom by the Kauravas, owing to the intense inferiority complex of the Kauravas and the resultant hatred they had in their minds for the 5 Pandavas right from childhood. The 5 brothers even had to face exile and were forced to have an utterly humble existence during that period. Finally, when the exile period lapsed and even then the Kauravas refused to give the 5 protagonists their kingdom through peaceful negotiations, war had to be declared on the Kauravas. The war that ensued was a Dharm-Yuddh. The same goes for the Ramayana as well. But, this Jihad-e-Akbar to convert the entire dar-al-harb into dar-as-salam by force (even though the “kafirs” are just too happy and satisfied being so) is Adharmic-Yuddh, there is nothing just and fair about it!! There can be no comparison between Ramayan/Mahabharat and Jihad-e-Akbar.

    • Obviously, they are too busy worshipping the avatar of Tripurasur (aka Muhammad) and perfecting new taqqiya techniques to “counter” the kafir “propaganda”. IRF=Islamic Rascals Floundering!!
      Thanks to the Internet and Satyagni/Satyagni, IRF is haemorrhaging slowly but surely!! One thing I find surprising is that bida’a(innovation) is haraam in Islam, then how come innovating new taqqiya techniques is halaal? Anything goes when it comes to dealing with the dar-al-harb and it’s residents, the kafirs and the mushriks!!

  7. Hello Everyone,
    One of the best articles I read & appreciated here. Really great job. Vedas are encyclopedia of true knowledge & no one can prove it wrong.
    Keep it up Satyagni Ji….

  8. Doubtless the majority of LTTE, Maoists, Naxalites are Hindus. But these Hindus are ashamed of being known as Hindus. Further, none of these organisations have claimed that they are indulging in terrorism in order to defend Hindu Dharma. They all claimed to be secularists! But Jihadis are different and they swear by Islam and Kuran. They kill other Muslims for not being devote Muslims. Has any LTTE follower killed the other Hindu for being Not Hindu? Swami Lakshamanand Saraswathi in Orissa was killed because he was defending Hindus against fraudulent conversions, a thing that Naxal and Maoist cadre want.

    • It is unbelieveable that the “secular” JNU and female anchorship on TV brigade that bow down before their God, Karl Marx, supports Islam or Christianity in India! Islam/Christianity are the greatest threats to Communism yet these dimmis are clueless!

  9. car v is better than i
    beautifully explained and proved.
    we are judging islam by its car only and every one knows how the car is spreading hate and terrorism over this globe.

    • I’ve had a read through the article, and I’d like to first of all give applause to the writer. He/she’s one step closer to understanding Islam by eliminating the element of looking at the followers, rather than the belief itself. But then the fundamental errors start to begin, where he/she starts to compare the Qur’an to the Vedas. There’s the assumption that we Muslims pray to Ka’abah, and that this practice is highlighted in the Qur’an. First of all, read what it says in the Qur’an itself before making such a claim. It says in the Qur’an that the Ka’abah is a Qiblah; a direction. The Hadith speak of the dismantling and rebuilding of the Ka’abah. You tell me, would God allow His idol (naudhubillah) to be dismantled? The Hadith speak of the Ka’abah being used to be stood on to say the Adhan to call people to pray. Now you tell me, which idol woshipper would be allowed to stand on the idol? Why was this practice not stopped in the Qur’an or the Hadith? However, idol worship in the Qur’an is explicitly forbidden.
      Most of the article (over 99%) is just speculation; no statistical evidence giving to back it up and so is self-refuted (how can you claim one thing is better than the other, without a single verse from the Vedas being quoted?) I’ll cover the verses from the Qur’an which were brought forward: [9:5] and [9:29] are instructions for people in a WAR. Why were [9:4] and [9:6] omitted? Because of the peacefulness of these two verses! If the enemy asks for peace, then give them peace; Allah loves not the transgressors.
      I hope you realise the several flaws with the article itself.

      • @UKC:
        He/she’s one step closer to understanding Islam by eliminating the element of looking at the followers, rather than the belief itself.
        I would like to know how to differentiate between “true” believers/followers who live and set an example of the Islamic faith versus “false” believers/followers who are giving Islam a bad name.
        Assume there is a believer behind a screen who will answer my questions truthfully (i.e. no taqqiya allowed).
        What questions could I ask this person behind the screen to which a “true” follower’s answer would be different from the “false” follower’s answer?

      • how can you identify the person who is doing Taqiya ???? there is only one way …. You insult Mr.Pedo . IF the guy is doing taqiya , will refute your claim. true follower will curse you….. and cry…..!!!!!!

      • Namaste UKC
        ————–But then the fundamental errors start to begin, where he/she starts to compare the Qur’an to the Vedas. ————-
        Why? Is this the exclusive right of Zakir Naik alone to compare his car with others’ drivers? We have at least compared cars!
        —————-There’s the assumption that we Muslims pray to Ka’abah————-
        No assumption, here is the proof http://satyagni.com/1685/kaba-or-idol-worship/, which you chose to ignore deliberately.
        —————-Now you tell me, which idol woshipper would be allowed to stand on the idol?————-
        Islamic idol worshippers 😉
        People have their own ways of worshipping stones. Some simply bow down to it, like Hindus and some not only bow but kiss and circumambulate it also, like Muslims. For me bowing to an idol (though I have never bowed down to any) is lesser idol worship than bowing+kissing+circumambulating a stone 🙂
        And now I ask, which Hindu kisses his/her idol? Since no Hindu does that, Hindus are not idol worshippers but Muslims are (presuming idol worship = bowing + kissing + circumambulating) 🙁
        ————-Most of the article (over 99%) is just speculation; no statistical evidence giving to back it up and so is self-refuted (how can you claim one thing is better than the other, without a single verse from the Vedas being quoted?)————
        Please visit the links provided in the article and get away with your misconceptions.
        —————- I’ll cover the verses from the Qur’an which were brought forward: [9:5] and [9:29] are instructions for people in a WAR. Why were [9:4] and [9:6] omitted?—————-
        [9:5, 9:29] are separate verses. Quoting them does not mean we omitted rest of the Quran, it only means we need not give whole of the Quran when we talk about a particular verse.
        —————Because of the peacefulness of these two verses!—————
        Wait for few days and get to know the reality of those PEACEFUL verses. Stay tuned!
        ————– If the enemy asks for peace, then give them peace; Allah loves not the transgressors.—————–
        Dont play Taqiyya my friend. Verse says not to kill those who accept Islam and kill the rest wherever you find them. Where did you get peace in this verse?
        ————-I hope you realise the several flaws with the article itself.————-
        We found all the flaws in your comment and none in the article.
        Regards

      • @UKC, forget about Qiblah,,, You answer this question, I know Pedo MO is a Pedophile , that is a Known secret .. So i am not asking about that.. … But How come Allah did not stop that reprehensible & shameful act of spoiling a child……… where were your Allah when Pedo Mo celebrated the grand Opening (consummation )

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      • @Raja:
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  11. @UKC , have you ever read Tafsir Ibn Kathir?? read it .. do you know the concept of abrogation ? what is the meaning of “Dar al-harb” , Hindus in India have Destroyed BABRI MASJIT.. So tell me is it “Dar al-harb” now? if Yes , read — 9:5..

  12. True, one should not judge a car by its driver. But when one particular model of car is statistically proven to be most accident prone and has an accident rate of 90% against other cars which have a eate of only 5%, one must stop blaming drivers and find out whether something wrong with the car/the road in which it is driven.

    • @atheist jabali
      Ya you are right, if there are accidents frequently there is some fault in Car. Islam is man made car that is why despite of having Islamic Car & other car are banned in Pakistan, Afganistan, Somaliya the accident are on very high rate in these countries than USA, India, Uk etc where Car “I” is not in monopolistic situation in Market.. If we want to stop accident in India & in rest of world we need to require banned on advertising Company like IRF which are promoting faulty car in Market by making fool of people. Most of the accident are done by the driver of “Islamic Car”.

  13. what about godhra riots? Brutal murder of 2000 innocents even though Vedas did not sanction any kind of such acts.Islamic terrorism is not big issue when we compare to Hindu terrorism.Not more than 1500 people killed due to Islamic terrorism in India.Hindu religion is the most tolerant religion. But these people in the name of religion murdered thousands of innocent people.They are embarrassing Hindu religion.Better to condemn these people before taking about other religion.If doing so you are condemning Narendra modi, RSS, VHP, Bajrang dal, Abhinav Bharat and all their associated groups. You have show that you are not associated with these groups.I ask these people to stop such non sense acts in the name of saving the religion.

      • i do not understand why you people have to be hypocritical while talking about it. . i know a muslim guy who used to cry about the Godhra riots but tell me you dim wit who started the fire? was it an accident or was a conspiracy? the main conspirator was a muslim. . his associates were muslims,. now should you quote “don’t judge the car by the driver”? the basis of Islam is terror and so this is obvious that all of such heinous activities either have muslims conspiracy of involvement.

  14. @ sks I think you are gone but still
    if you think speaking of godhra riots would work, brother has provided you with an answer.
    Now read the article again it says that nowhere in Vedas it is given to kill innocent but in quran there are many verses of the same.
    now you are talking as someone who is willing to take revenge like if our 2000 people have died so more than 2000 hindus die otherwise muslims are better than hindus
    tell me if being a muslim you are being benefited to do many marriages than you dont you become christen except for this benefit they will also pay you money for the same
    and dont think that for money you will have to convert , you already are a convert as your ancestors were Hindu

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