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Zakir Naik – Patriot or Traitor?

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अस्वीकरण पढ़ें

इस पूरी वेबसाईट में जहाँ भी ‘इस्लाम’ वा ‘मुसलमान’ वा पैग़म्बर आदि मज़हबी शब्दों का प्रयोग हुआ है, उसका अर्थ केवल और केवल इस्लाम वा मुसलमान वा पैग़म्बर आदि शब्दों की वह व्याख्या है जो कट्टर इस्लाम के मशहूर और लोकप्रिय प्रचारक जैसे - ज़ाकिर नाईक़, अंजम चौधरी, हाफ़िज़ सईद, मौलाना इसरार अहमद, मौलाना मसूद अज़हर और उनके समर्थक करते हैं जिसके अनुसार हर ग़ैर-मुसलमान जहन्नम/नर्क की आग में जलेगा और हर इस्लाम छोड़ने वाले को क़त्ल कर देना चाहिए।

इस पूरी वेबसाईट में जहाँ भी ‘क़ुरान’ शब्द प्रयुक्त हुआ है, उसका अर्थ क़ुरान की पुस्तक के वो अनुवाद और व्याख्याएँ हैं जो कट्टर इस्लाम के प्रतिनिधियों द्वारा इंटरनेट और अन्य स्थानों पर प्रचारित-प्रसारित की जाती हैं जिन्हें पढ़कर कमज़ोर दिल के लोग कट्टरता की दिशा में मुड़ रहे हैं। हम जानते हैं कि क़ुरान व उपरिलिखित शब्दों की कुछ व्याख्याएँ ऐसी भी हैं जो हिंसा को आज के दिन ठीक नहीं समझतीं, एवं ग़ैरमज़हबी मानवता पर बल देती है पर ऐसी व्याख्याएँ और व्याख्याता कट्टर इस्लाम के प्रतिनिधियों और उनके अनुयायियों की दृष्टि में मुर्तद (मुसलमान जिसने इस्लाम छोड़ दिया हो) घोषित किए गए हैं। ऐसे व्याख्याता और उनकी व्याख्याएँ इस वेबसाईट के विषय नहीं हैं। चिंता का विषय है कि आज इंटर्नेट आदि माध्यमों में कट्टरवादी व्याख्याओं का बाहुल्य है एवं उदारवादी सहिष्णु व्याख्याएँ दुष्प्राप्य हैं।

हम मानते हैं कि मूल इस्लाम, पैग़म्बर, क़ुरान आदि बहुत प्रेम और आनंद सिखाते होंगे। परंतु इस वेबसाईट में इन शब्दों से केवल वो अर्थ लिए जाएँ जो नवीन लोगों ने अपने हिसाब से अपने मिलावटी ग्रंथ/अनुवाद बना लिए हैं। हम इन मिलावटी ग्रंथों/अनुवादों को ठीक नहीं मानते और हमारी इस्लाम, पैग़म्बर या क़ुरान आदि विषयों की व्याख्या को आज के कट्टरवादी प्रचलित/मिलावटी अनुवादों के संदर्भ में ही लिया जाए। हमारी कोई बात मूल इस्लाम, पैग़म्बर और क़ुरान के लिए नहीं है। उसके लिए तो बस सम्मान है।

किसी भी व्यक्ति, समुदाय, उदारवादी विचारधारा की भावना को ठेस पहुँचाना इस वेबसाईट का उद्देश्य नहीं है। किंतु विषय गम्भीर है, संवेदनशील है। प्रचारित इतिहास पर प्रश्नचिन्ह उठाता है। कुछ स्थानों पर एतिहासिक विषयों को नाटकीय रूप में भी प्रस्तुत किया गया है। अतः यह निवेदन है कि यदि इन विषयों को लेकर आप किंचित भी संवेदनशील है तो इस वेबसाईट को आगे न पढ़ें। यह वेबसाईट केवल परिपक्व मनस हेतु है जो इस अस्वीकरण को ध्यान रखते हुए, हमारी मूल भावना का सम्मान करते हुए, हमारे सृजनात्मक अभिव्यक्ति के अधिकार को अंगीकार कर सकें।

This entry is part [part not set] of 19 in the series Zakir Naik Exposed

Zakir Naik Exposed

No one knows why the land of believers of Sarve Bhavantu Sukhinah (May all be in bliss) faced continuous attacks on its territory from last 1400 years by foreign invaders. Did Indians go to Mecca and sack it, desecrate Kaba? If no, why the Arabs, Turks and many more demolished thousands of temples like Somnath, Ayodhya, and Kashi? Did we ever send our armies to capture Arab and Turkey for which Arabs or Turks invaded us and started breaking records of atrocities? What are we left with today after losing half of our territory and people to a foreign cult in the last thousand years?

Why do we glorify these butchers like Babur, Akbar, Aurangzeb, Humayun, Moinuddin Chishti, Tughlaks, and Khiljis? Shame on those who wrote Babur as the founding father of unity among kingdoms in Indian subcontinent irrespective of the fact that he was a self-confessed butcher claiming to have raised pillars of cut heads of thousands of Hindus to make India land of Islam. Same with Akbar, who is claimed to be the greatest king of India till date by many wicked so-called historians, but was actually the killer of 30,000 innocent non-combatant Hindus in one day of conquest of Chittaur Fort.

But there is another frame of reference to look at all this according to Zakir Naik, and that is the will of Allah and His Rasul! According to the leading commentators and translators of Quran approved by Zakir Naik, Allah in Quran [9:5] commands Muslims to slay the polytheists and idol worshippers wherever they are found! In [9:29], Allah is claimed to say that Muslims should fight anyone who disbelieves in any of Allah, Quran, Muhammad, heaven, hell, angels, etc. until they become Muslim. Whoever refuses to convert to Islam, make him/her pay Jizyah Tax which is the price of being safe to be paid by Non-Muslim in an Islamic country and at the same time the symbol of his subdued position in front of Muslims.

Those who refuse to pay Jizyah, act as per [9:5] and send them to the eternal hellfire! In history, whoever Arab or Turk, demonstrated these verses in practice and waged war against Kafir India, carried out massacre, plunder, loot, abduction, rape, slavery, etc., were considered as fighters of Allah (Mujahideen) and are hailed as Ghazis. Even today all these Ghazis are considered Allah’s Wali (friend) by the subcontinent Muslims.

In our opinion, Muslims of the Indian subcontinent are the most unfortunate people living on earth. Centuries ago, the mothers and sisters (Hindu and Buddhists that time) were dragged out of their homes by Muslim Armies and shipped to Arab/Central Asia to fill Harems of Caliphs as well as the slave markets. The same has been extensively covered in Arab and Mughal chronicles.

These are the same people whose fathers’ and brothers’ heads were used to raise pillars of cut-heads so that the whole city could see the wrath of Allah’s army for the sin of not accepting Islam- the religion of peace. [To know more, please read Baburnama by Babur, Diary of Taimur, Abul Fazal’s Aain e Akbari and other autobiographies of Muslim rulers in India]. The saddest part is the unfortunate descendants of those mothers and fathers today applaud the butchers of their ancestors.

Allama Iqbal, Muhammad Ali Jinnah, Bhutto Family of Pakistan (Julfikar Ali Bhutto and Benjeer Bhutto), etc. were Hindus few generations ago! Iqbal’s grandfather was a Kashmiri Hindu and Jinnah’s grandfather was a Gujarati Hindu. Bhutto family belonged to the Rajput roots. But alas! The damage done to India and Hindus by these recent converts is unmatched in the history.
And now there is another name in the list! Zakir Naik, the descendant of Maharashtrian Hindu. He preaches Islam in India and abroad. Humanity hates him for his terror-breeding views of hell to all Non-Muslims irrespective of their good deeds, support of polygamy and sex slavery, the death penalty for apostates, not allowing Non-Muslims to preach their religion in Islamic countries, etc.

Zakir Naik lies to Hindus

But now he is not restricted to supporting Laden alone! We are going to expose the dangerous plots of his team against his own motherland India, which has been recently made public by one of his close allies. Readers will find what his friends are doing to the country that nurtured him and gave him fame. But before that, let’s have a look what Zakir Bhai has to say to Hindus.

There is no compulsion in religion!

To you, your religion, to me mine!

Islam does not allow to kill innocents. In Islam, the killing of one innocent is equivalent to the killing of entire humanity.

Islam is the religion of humanity.

Islam means peace.

Islam is the solution to humanity!

Islam was not spread by the sword in India because we Muslims ruled India for 1000 years and if we had wished, we could have converted each of the Hindus to Islam. But India still has 80% of Hindu population, and this is the proof that Islam was spread peacefully.

No Muslim can force you to his religion

Traitor Israr Ahmed‘s Alliance with Zakir Naik

The above are some favorite quotes of Zakir Naik while speaking to Hindus. But look at what his Pakistani Peace TV ally says in Pakistan!

Dr. Israr Ahmed was a Pakistani scholar and a renowned speaker of Zakir’s channel Peace TV also. He passed away recently. His programs are still aired on Zakir’s channel. One could check Peace TV website to ascertain that Israr Ahmed is the part of Zakir’s team.

This Mullah, before he died, in an interview with a Pakistani Channel, revealed that the Muslim Armies would once again attack India and this time, will completely establish Islamic rule in India. This gentleman has given the references from Hadith of Muhammad and has assured of the fulfillment of those because of being sayings of Prophet Muhammad. Please check his videos where he talks about the upcoming Islamic victory over India (Ghazwa e Hind)!
He says- “…. Allah has destined two armies of my Ummah (Muslims) for the heaven. One of those will attack India… Afghanistan and Pakistan will together make a greater Islamic kingdom that will expand in both directions (east and west) and will establish Islamic rule everywhere.”

[Read Hadith (Muhammad’s sayings) regarding attack on India – Ghazwa e Hind]

Zakir Naik and his allies want Ghazwa e Hind. Is there any doubt that his aim is to make Indians slaves of Islamic rule? He very cleverly repeats ‘Islam means peace’ in front of Hindus while at the same time, prepares Muslims in Islamic countries such as Pakistan and Iraq to attack India to fulfill Hadith of Muhammad.

The idea is to keep fooling Hindus of India that there is no compulsion in religion and agitate Muslims of outside to be among the army of those Ghazis who are going to land directly in heaven as per Muhammad’s Hadith! Give Islam=peace garbage to Hindus from inside and wait for the divine army of Muhammad to attack from outside! And some day, attack India like Muhammad Bin Qasim and paint it with Islamic color. Convert Kafir Hindus to Muslims or make them pay Jizyah. Kill those refusing both options.

Jihadi: Zakir Naik has no relation with Israr Ahmed. Thus Naik is not responsible for Israr’s comments or actions.

Analysis :
Does Zakir consider those Hadith wrong that Israr thinks as right? If yes, why did Zakir not condemn his teammate Israr who portrayed Islam as a bloodthirsty enemy of India?

Why did Zakir Naik continue to have him in his team even after he spewed venom against India, the motherland of Naik? Even today, the recordings of this terrorist Israr Ahmed are aired on Zakir’s Peace TV, why?

Why shouldn’t Zakir declare Israr a terrorist for being involved in anti-Indian plot of conquest by Islamic forces?

Why shouldn’t Zakir Naik apologize for his ties with such fanatic enemy of India till the end?

If Zakir Naik thinks Israr was wrong, then he must announce that the Hadith Israr referred to were wrong. Also, he should either get Fatwa issued against those Mullahs who consider these Hadith authentic or prove to them that these are wrong.

In case Zakir fails to do any of the above, why should he not be considered as terrorist instead?

Jihadi: Israr Ahmed never forced anyone with his beliefs
Everyone has right to opine. Israr gave his views, why should you have problems? He never forced anyone with his beliefs!

Analysis :
Great! But what happens in Islamic countries where anyone’s opinion against Quran or Muhammad invites death? When Islam doesn’t allow anyone to give critical opinion on Muhammad or Quran in Sharia land, why should someone be spared in the name of giving opinion, who is guilty of dangerous plotting against Hindus and India?

The way Muslims love Muhammad, true Indians love India. So why shouldn’t all India lovers thrash terrorists who threaten to conquer India with a 7th century barbaric idea?

By the way, what is the reason that no Non-Muslim can ever give his opinion on his faith (propagation of one’s faith) in Islamic countries but Muslims demand this right everywhere?

Jihadi: Israr’s Hadith is not correct
The Hadith that Israr quoted are not Sahih but weak. Thus it’s not right to build a case based on such Hadith.

Analysis :
What is the reason that the Hadith that remains weak/wrong in Hindu majority India suddenly becomes Sahih and invincible truth of Muhammad few miles across the border (in Pakistan)? Are there sufficient Mullahs in Islamic countries who declare these Hadith as weak/wrong?

If these Hadith are wrong/weak as per Zakir, he should openly criticize these along with the scholars, publishers and writers/narrators who have defamed Islam in the world as an intolerant religion by supporting, publishing and compiling/narrating these. But he won’t as he himself is the father of prominent anti-India/Hindu forces today.

For what reason these Hadith should be considered wrong/weak when a scholar like Dr. Israr Ahmed has confirmed these as Sahih? And what about the Fatwa issued by Islamic center which unequivocally states that these Hadith of attack on India by Muslim Army is Sahih?

Here we provide the important portion of this Fatwa:
Question

What is your ruling on the hadith in Nisai Shareef about Ghazwa tul Hind? Are the hadith authentic & also whether this Ghazwa has already taken place in the past or will take place in the future. It would be appreciated if the answer is descriptive and explanatory.

Answer
…This Hadeeth in which the conquest of India is mentioned was reported by An-Nassaa’i, Ahmad, Al-Bayhaqi and others from Thawbaan may Allaah be pleased with him, and Shaykh Al-Albaani may Allaah have mercy upon him classified it as Saheeh in “Saheeh Al-Jaami’.”

Besides, Ibn Katheer may Allaah have mercy upon him said in his book “An-Nihaayah Fil-Fitan Wal Malaahim”: “Indeed, the Muslims conquered India in 44 (A.H) during the reign of Mu’aawiyah Ibn Abi Sufyaan may Allaah be pleased with him and some incidents took place, and we mentioned them in detail. Also, the great king As-Sa’eed Al-Mahmoud Ibn Subiktikeen, the ruler of Ghaznah and its surroundings conquered it in about 400 (A.H), and he did there some renowned acts and good matters, and he broke the great idol called “Somnath” and took its garlands and swords and returned to his country victorious and safe.”

Jihadi: The Hadith’s attack on India has been fulfilled
The Hadith of attack on India is Sahih, but it has already been fulfilled. Hadith was referring to the attack on India by Muhammad Bin Qasim, which has already happened. So no divine planning of forcefully capturing Indian again!

Analysis :
Israr Ahmed and the Fatwa we shared both undoubtedly say that final Hadith of Ghazwa e Hind (conquering of India) is yet to be fulfilled. Please go back to Point 1 (a) and (d) if you are planning to differ with Israr on this issue!

If this Hadith is assumed to have been fulfilled already, this again proves that Islam came to India with sword and ruled India by the sword, and all this happened with the divine inspiration of Allah and Rasul. This way Zakir Naik is again caught doing Taqiyya (lying) because his stance on Islamic invasion in India remains that Muslims/Islam did not spread/rule through sword whereas this Hadith seems to say otherwise!

It is evident from the activities of Zakir Naik that his ultimate objective is to destroy India/Hindus completely in the name of Allah and Muhammad. India must destroy such terrorists if it has to survive.

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It is possible that this post is based on the translations and commentaries of Islamic texts like Quran, Hadiths etc. as published by all major Islamic publishing sources. These are the publicly available translations that are used for promotion of Islam by prominent representatives.

We, however, believe that most of these texts have been wrongly translated, misinterpreted, misquoted or even have been tampered with and interpolated to suit the selfish designs of proponents of Islam after Muhammad. Thus, we believe that original Islam and original Quran of Muhammad are totally different from what have been propagated by his followers in name of Islam. There are few minority groups in Muslims whose scholars subscribe to our views and interpret/translate Islamic texts differently or even refuse to consider the available Quran and Hadiths as authentic. But these scholars themselves are considered Kafirs and are condemned by a dominant elite group of Islam. Thus, when we refer to Islam, we actually imply these dominant elites of Islam and not Muslims or all Islamic scholars in general.

Wherever we critically evaluate Muhammad, we imply the fictitious Muhammad propagated by these false texts or their wrong translations and not the original Muhammad. We have high regard for original Muhammad who stood for non-violence and tolerance. Similarly, when we analyze Islamic texts, we refer to these questionable translations/versions and NOT original texts.

Further, we have a sense of the highest level of brotherhood for Muslims in general. Wherever we use the word Muslim in a critical manner, it refers to false representatives of Islam and not Muslims in general. Readers are requested to keep this in mind to understand the correct perspective of such posts on this website.

Nowhere should they assume the words like Islam, Quran, Prophet etc. to be referring to original noble entities, unless it has been referred in a positive light. We restrict ourselves only to notions prevalent in minds of fanatics and those without reason.

अस्वीकरण पढ़ें

इस पूरी वेबसाईट में जहाँ भी ‘इस्लाम’ वा ‘मुसलमान’ वा पैग़म्बर आदि मज़हबी शब्दों का प्रयोग हुआ है, उसका अर्थ केवल और केवल इस्लाम वा मुसलमान वा पैग़म्बर आदि शब्दों की वह व्याख्या है जो कट्टर इस्लाम के मशहूर और लोकप्रिय प्रचारक जैसे - ज़ाकिर नाईक़, अंजम चौधरी, हाफ़िज़ सईद, मौलाना इसरार अहमद, मौलाना मसूद अज़हर और उनके समर्थक करते हैं जिसके अनुसार हर ग़ैर-मुसलमान जहन्नम/नर्क की आग में जलेगा और हर इस्लाम छोड़ने वाले को क़त्ल कर देना चाहिए।

इस पूरी वेबसाईट में जहाँ भी ‘क़ुरान’ शब्द प्रयुक्त हुआ है, उसका अर्थ क़ुरान की पुस्तक के वो अनुवाद और व्याख्याएँ हैं जो कट्टर इस्लाम के प्रतिनिधियों द्वारा इंटरनेट और अन्य स्थानों पर प्रचारित-प्रसारित की जाती हैं जिन्हें पढ़कर कमज़ोर दिल के लोग कट्टरता की दिशा में मुड़ रहे हैं। हम जानते हैं कि क़ुरान व उपरिलिखित शब्दों की कुछ व्याख्याएँ ऐसी भी हैं जो हिंसा को आज के दिन ठीक नहीं समझतीं, एवं ग़ैरमज़हबी मानवता पर बल देती है पर ऐसी व्याख्याएँ और व्याख्याता कट्टर इस्लाम के प्रतिनिधियों और उनके अनुयायियों की दृष्टि में मुर्तद (मुसलमान जिसने इस्लाम छोड़ दिया हो) घोषित किए गए हैं। ऐसे व्याख्याता और उनकी व्याख्याएँ इस वेबसाईट के विषय नहीं हैं। चिंता का विषय है कि आज इंटर्नेट आदि माध्यमों में कट्टरवादी व्याख्याओं का बाहुल्य है एवं उदारवादी सहिष्णु व्याख्याएँ दुष्प्राप्य हैं।

हम मानते हैं कि मूल इस्लाम, पैग़म्बर, क़ुरान आदि बहुत प्रेम और आनंद सिखाते होंगे। परंतु इस वेबसाईट में इन शब्दों से केवल वो अर्थ लिए जाएँ जो नवीन लोगों ने अपने हिसाब से अपने मिलावटी ग्रंथ/अनुवाद बना लिए हैं। हम इन मिलावटी ग्रंथों/अनुवादों को ठीक नहीं मानते और हमारी इस्लाम, पैग़म्बर या क़ुरान आदि विषयों की व्याख्या को आज के कट्टरवादी प्रचलित/मिलावटी अनुवादों के संदर्भ में ही लिया जाए। हमारी कोई बात मूल इस्लाम, पैग़म्बर और क़ुरान के लिए नहीं है। उसके लिए तो बस सम्मान है।

किसी भी व्यक्ति, समुदाय, उदारवादी विचारधारा की भावना को ठेस पहुँचाना इस वेबसाईट का उद्देश्य नहीं है। किंतु विषय गम्भीर है, संवेदनशील है। प्रचारित इतिहास पर प्रश्नचिन्ह उठाता है। कुछ स्थानों पर एतिहासिक विषयों को नाटकीय रूप में भी प्रस्तुत किया गया है। अतः यह निवेदन है कि यदि इन विषयों को लेकर आप किंचित भी संवेदनशील है तो इस वेबसाईट को आगे न पढ़ें। यह वेबसाईट केवल परिपक्व मनस हेतु है जो इस अस्वीकरण को ध्यान रखते हुए, हमारी मूल भावना का सम्मान करते हुए, हमारे सृजनात्मक अभिव्यक्ति के अधिकार को अंगीकार कर सकें।

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    • Namaste Brother Vik

      Terrorist Israr is no doubt gone but his terrorist gang IRF and Peace TV still operate in order to establish Islamic Caliphate. I surprise if patriotic Hindus and Muslims still turn a blind eye to this fanatic anti
      Indian Zakir Naik after being exposed to have links with Pakistani terrorists.

  3. Another good one! Where are all the ZN-bots and Momins these days? Their traffic seems to have decreased 🙁

    I hope our so-far clueless media atleast wakes up to the terrorism that gets spewed on “Peace TV”. [I have pretty much given up on our politicians after Digvijay Singh said “Osamaji” but called a Yoga spiritual leader working towards more transparency in governance a thug 🙁 ] Maybe it is a stupid hope to hold. I almost puked when I saw the headlines in TOI – “Hounded by Hindu extremists, the Picasso of India dies” referring to MF Hussain. Sorry Picasso.

  4. haha, good one ashwin. 😀

    “The war will result in Pakistan capturing Indian terriotory as far as New Delhi. Inshallah.
    Radio Pakistan will be aired from Red Fort, New Delhi, Pakistan..” yay! 😀

    Idiots, living in fool’s(islamic) paradise.

  5. Sorry guys….I feel extremely disghusting with what happened to India bcoz of the invading jihadi maurading muslim idiots.

    Sorry folks and satyagni readers….i never do this…I know its a little too much….plz pardon me…

    BOMB THE KAABA……BOMB MECCA…NUKE PAK……SAUDI……DIRTY SCUM

    Sorry this the last time I am doing this ….I will never use this kinda language again….kindly do not delete my post I am not here to promote hate..Its just my feelings.

  8. wats this eye opener all abt?
    unconvincing.
    u just preach hate by calling someone a terrorist and spreading hate in this world.
    ur the real hero in all this ,are u?
    arent u the dumb terrorist?u spread hate and make it public.
    dr.zakir naik does not preach hate.
    acc. to u he does.wers the damn logic in tat.and i’ve read all ur articles.
    utterly a waste of time and effort.if u’d have spent the same time spreading love to muslims it wud be better.
    and admit it.ur not gonna convert any muslim by these articles.no matter how faint his faith is.

    • It is well known strategy. To kill a dog label it mad.
      To kill india and subjugate hindus label them kafirs and idol worshippers.
      The proof and desire of conquering india by muslims is the pakistani forums discussion to which the link is there in the comments above.
      If you still dont want to believe i can only say…..waking up a person who is acting to be sleeping is impossible.

  10. http://blog.onlyislam.net/2010/11/are-vedas-revelation-of-god.html

    so read the quran cause u can rely on it to be in the authentic form it was revealed in and not distorted by the self-centred scholars.
    and remember.if ur logic is valid and acceptable u wont have to resort to profanities as truth banishes falsehood.
    and try not to be such a pessimistic rebel against the tide of truth. look at the good things for a change.
    peace. love for all.

  11. . Did Indians go to Mecca and sack it, desecrate Kaba? If no, for what sin of ours the Arabs, Turks and many more returned us the favor by demolishing thousands of temples like Somnaath, Ayodhya and Kashi? Did we ever send same our armies to capture Arab and Turkey for which any tyrant Arab or Turk invading us started breaking records of atrocities set by the previous Ghazi? What are we left with today after losing half of our territory and people to a foreign cult in the last thousand years?

    and if the muslims start whining on the note u’d be left gaping with ur mouth open. cause the atrocities in palestine,bosnia,turkey,kashmir,iraq,afganistan etc etc have left the muslim population and territories greatly affected.

    speaking of muslims attacking our territories, i wonder wats the deal wit the british.did we screw around wit them.or are u just a scared little prick to stand up to the gaints in the world today.
    u just hate muslims.admit it and go to sleep.dont spread ur hate to innocent ppl.

    and admit it tat dr.zakir makes u shiver in ur pants.why else such an elaborate attempt to defame him.
    i’ve heard him.makes a lot more sense than u do,hate preacher.

    • Has the britishers destroyed any temples? they cam to loot and looted well. They did not want us to convert by force,though they wanted us to convert by money. So we can conclude here islam has got some syndrome of anti idol worshippers.

      You occupy a land and claim it yours, when others fight back and do the same to muslims you called it as torture. How is kasmir a muslim/seperate country?

      except for your hatred i did not find any hatred in Satyagnis articles.
      >>> admitting zakir naik causes shiver
      Better you admit Satyagni is causing shiver, otherwise you would have not landed on this website atall.
      People take what they want to listen and if muslims can justify child marriage and polygamy and jijiya tax what not can they justify?

  12. @100% correct username:

    u just preach hate by calling someone a terrorist and spreading hate in this world.

    Hmm…looks like you havent read the Quran lately. If you had done that WW2 would appear to you to be a peace summit or a walk in the park on a nice breezy summer day. 🙂

  13. Exposing the hollowness of the post on Vedas and World Peace in IH website – I am posting just the latest post of mine that nails the shallowness of the author’s grasp of Vedas. My previous posts there give more insight about the nature of the demons called Dasyus in Rig Veda. IH author tried to prove that Dasyus are non-Aryan tribes that were killed by the so called Aryans of the Aryan invasion theory. But we will see below that Dasyus are not even physical beings….
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    @ Mushafiq: Where Dasyus are concerned, have you understood their characterization across the entire body of Rig Veda? The answer is an emphatic NO. Why? Did you ever come across the verses in RV that point to Dasyus being driven out of both heaven and earth by the power of the flames of Indra’s thunderbolt? I do not think so. Did you come across verses in RV, where, Indra’s greatness keeps increasing and the luminosity of Indra leaves Dayus with nowhere to hide? Did you come across the verses in RV,where, Indra recovers the lost Sun and as this Sun rises, it illuminates the caves where Vala (a type of Dasyus) has hidden the luminous cows? Did you not see how then Sarama is unleashed to seek out these caves of “darkness?” In these battle between Indra and Maruts on one side and the powers of darkness of Dasyus on the other side, how Indra’s thunderbolt rids the darkness and from the dawn that emerges, the cows are milked? Did you not see in RV how Dasyus like Namuchi & sushna try to obstruct the heavenly waters flowing down towards those that are seeking the divine word? Did you miss the verse where Agni shines out bright by ridding the darkness f Dasyus in the primordial waters of heaven? Did you not see how Dasyus of the Pani kind capture the cows and waters but withhold the cows,while, Dasyus of the Vritra kind capture the light and waters but obstruct the flow of these waters? And finally, here is where your understanding of Vedas is getting nailed for good. Did you not notice how Dasyus like Vritra are progeny of DITI (the opposite principle of ADITI), whereas, those that seek the word righteously are progeny of Aditi. Aditi is the infinite (in the noun sense of infinite), Aditi is vast, Aditi is the Universal cow, Aditi personifies unbound and un-obstructing nature, Aditi, is Universal Mother from where everything sprang. Diti, also called Danus is finite, restricted by space and time, obstructive in nature, possesses darkness / ignorance as a trait.

    So if you sum up everything stated above, it is so very obvious that Dasyus are not some physical non-Aryan tribe living in a restricted geographical space but on the contrary they represent all those forces that oppose the realization of truth consciousness and obstruct the path of realizing the same. I can pile up verse after verse to substantiate all the above.

    I repeat once again, you cannot pick and choose verses without a context, base it on English, Sanskrit,Hindi words & make absolutely ignorant claims on what they mean. Again you have never ever made an earnest attempt to understand and unlock the vaults of atris and angiras in RV. I rest my case.

    Again, please confirm if Muwaiahs and Hajajs and Timurs and babars and Ajmal Kasavs and Osamas drew inspiration from Vedas to execute all the noble deeds that they did..

    • @ Apolloreach:
      Namaste Brother, the points that you put forward and your command over the subject is unbelievable!!.. i have seen many debates of your on this site and must say .. whenever i see a rally of points going on between you and a muslim.. it somehow always seems to me its gonna end up in you winning the debate. obviously we dont mean to win or lose the debate.. all we want and intend to do is to uncover the truth with unprejudiced mind.. but the point i want to stress upon is that when u are with the Truth with firm faith, u will ALWAYS win..

      Great going..
      Namaste

  14. This post confirms the intentions, connections and the character of the bigot called zakir naik. When Ali Sina published a blow by blow rebuttal to Zakir Naik’s claims on science in Quran, the document also had a chat thread between someone from Ali Sina’s team and a foot soldier of Zakir Naik. The foot soldier mentioned about a jihadi training camp that Zakir Naik was running. And Ali Sina, did add a disclaimer that ZN may or may not be directly involved in it and that the guy chatting could not also be taken at face value. But this post nails Zakir Naik as a traitor.

    Please google Ali Sina on Naik-Campbell Debate and scroll to the end of the document to see the chat thread of the representative of Joker Naik.

  15. A detailed report on the case of Farah Hatim, Catholic girl kidnapped and forcibly Islamized in Rahim Yar Khan, Punjab province of Pakistan, will be presented in the next few weeks at the UN Council for Human Rights in Geneva. Local NGOs sponsoring the appeal are: “Dominicans for Justice and Peace” “Franciscans International” and “Pax Romana.”

    Christian student nurse Farah Hatim from Jinnah Colony of Rahim Yar Khan, aged 24, was kidnapped on May 7, 2011 by a Muslim young man Zeeshan Iliyas with the intent to convert her to Islam and forceably marry her. Unfortunately, Superintendent Police Ashfaq Gujjar and SHO city Nazir Shah threatened the victim’s family and did not ready to register a case against the culprit.

    Khalid Gill, a Christian rights activist from APMA told Minorities Concern of Pakistan that police only registered the case when about 400 Christians protested in from of police office.” Despite Christians continues protests, police has recovered Miss Hatim, who is still missing.

    TWO CHRISTIAN SISTERS: Two Christian girls were kidnapped by a group of Muslims and forced to convert to Islam and get married. Rebbecca Masih and Saima Masih were kidnapped by a wealthy local businessman, Muhammad Waseem on May 24, 2011 in Jhang, in district of Faisalabad, according to Agenzia Fides. On May 25, Muhammad Waseem forcefully married Saima Masih, in the presence of the leader Muhammad Zubair Qasim, an active member of the banned extremist group “Sip-e-Sahaba”, often known for organizing kidnappings and forced conversions of Christian girls and Hindus.

    HINDU WOMEN: For several years, Hindu women have been forced to convert to Islam and marry Muslim men even though they are already married to Hindus. Since there is no evidence to prove their marital status, they are unable to take a legal stand on their issue. This was stated by schedule caste Hindu women during a press conference on June 23, The Express Tribune reported.

    Pakistan is home to 3.4 million schedule caste Hindus, also known as Dalits, a minority of 0.25 per cent in a nation of mainly Muslims. According to the 1998 census, upper castes Hindus are just over 2.1 million.

    A COMMON PRACTICE: Kidnapping Christian girls, conversion and forced marriages have become common practice in Punjab province. Punjab is becoming heaven for these groups: Muslim leaders openly call for violence in their sermons, without shame.

    A Catholic nun in Faisalabad said the Masih sisters is a common fate of many girls and young Christian women in a society that tolerates discrimination on religious minorities, especially on women.

    Minorities Concern of Pakistan learnt that at least 700 Christian girls are kidnapped and forcibly converted to Islam every year in Pakistan. Forced conversions of Hindu girls to Islam are often unreported out of fear.

  18. I received an email from a ZN foot soldier on this topic. The email, instead of addressing the core issue of Zakir Naik’s affinities (nation or Ghazwa e Hind), goes off on a tangent and claims that the concept of Ghazwa e Hind being attributed to Muhammad was based on weak narrations. Then the email lists down a bunch of narrators and why they are not authentic.

    I think this is the best defense that IRF could mount to defend ZN. In an interview, soon after ZN was banned from entering UK, ZN stated that he said what he said about Osama Bin Laden, in a discrete manner, considering the number of followers he (Zakir Naik) had & that he did not want to say something that was misleading. Now where has this discretion of ZN gone,where, Ghazwa e Hind is concerned?

    Whether what Israr Ahmed stated is an authentic Hadith narration or not is a moot point. It is the attitude of ZN and his ilk that is being called into question. How can Peace TV be used as a platform for anti India rants, given Mumbai is the hub of IRF? Can we expect a Maulana Azhar or a Lakhwi to rant on Peace TV and then have a low level employee of IRF claim that the rant does not have a standing based on Hadith narrations? Who is IRF kidding? If this is the defense IRF is mounting on behalf of ZN’s silence on this matter, ZN is sliding more and more into a hole on his ability to be honest and forthright.

    • Well said Bro Apollo

      The article itself addresses this issue along with many others in later part.

      And the trick of calling the Hadith as weak is not going to help Jihadis because Islamic scholars have declared it as Sahih!

      http://www.islamweb.net/emainpage/index.php?page=showfatwa&Option=FatwaId&Id=143847

      Notable portion of it

      ———-This Hadeeth in which the conquest of India is mentioned was reported by An-Nassaa’i, Ahmad, Al-Bayhaqi and others from Thawbaan may Allaah be pleased with him and Shaykh Al-Albaani may Allaah have mercy upon him CLASSIFIED IT AS SAHEEH IN SAHEEH AL-JAAMI———-

      • Hey Hijra or Vijra
        Take your bloody mouth try to know and regard the religion of anyone if you count your self a literate person don’t try to flame the fire of fight between Hindu and Muslims and try to take debates with Zakir Naik or other Muslim scholar and examine your talent you can’t do any thing against Islam because you are an ordinary person there are many dictator and super power that have’nt done any thing with their ominious plans agianst Islam If you ask your historian about Islam you will completely know what is Islam and Muslim If you give the answer of Dr Zakir Naik so I will be Hindu other wise don’t try to contemn other religion your great master (shri shri shankar) has failed infront of Dr Zakir Naik you can’t do anything in commenting accept doing in practical.Be like Gandhi jee
        Thanks

      • Syed, history of islam is well known. The legacy continues till this day where muslims inspired the quran either kill kafirs or kill one another. Out of the 70+sects in Islam nobody knows which is the true sect,as, stated by your prophet. Last week sunnis in bahrain razed down mosques of shias and in Syria, a shia majority ruler is torching the sunnis. islam is blazing on the outside but hollow on the inside. all religions have many aspects of literature that are not practical but it is only in mullah inspired islam that people take every saying in your book so seriously and that is why you guys have the ghetto mentality. zakir naik is a liar and a fundamentalist that continues to poison the muslims of India. What is the problem with mullahs if someone worships many number of Gods or if there are idols. if your faith is against it keep the practice to yourself. zakir naik today is a spent force that has no value to himself or to his arabian pay masters.

      • @syed jahil

        So zakir naik is a muslim scholar hmm.

        Then why did dar ul uloom issued fatwa against Zakir naik? huh?

        see this: “I do not consider him a Muslim,” said Maulana Hashim Kachauchwi, a respected Sunni scholar in Lucknow, on Saturday.

      • @illetrate person

        When the sunni scholar issued fatwa against Zakir Naik?
        Don’t make propaganda fool man.
        Zakir Naik is the best preacher in the world.

        Uto subah ho gayee

    • Ha Ha Ha
      Mr @Mi

      You can’t do anything without commenting in text.
      But if we want we will do practically Understand!!!!!!!
      Well known and Kown person is obvious for all don’t try to clash with Muslims!

      • By the way, what you said is what is what you people are told to believe. It is the same logic based on which Pak got kicked many times. 1 muslim = 4 kafirs. Do you know how many iraqis are leaving islam privately? There is a movement in iran against islam. They even celebrated the fire festival of Zorastrian traditions that was broken after islam. Brute power with ignorance is slowly taking islam down the slope. Even in India there are many educated muslims that have realized the hollowness of islam and have silently become apostates in private.

      • @vansh
        I don’t claim that muslims don’t apostate,but the there are majority of scholar christian and jews even Hindus convert to Islam why?
        Have you deeply thought of this issue?
        So tell me why the master of hisdus (shri shri ravi shankar) acknowledge that Islam is true religion but I don’t want to convert to Islam because the current religion which I am in it is left from our ancestors.
        now readj,ask and think

      • alim, when did the AOL guru Ravishankar become the leader of Hindus? And islam being true can be his personal opinion. But did he become a Muslim or has he stopped doing his sessions based on Hindu literature? Had he done that his opinion would have carried some conviction.The strength of Hinduism in a way is the lack of a single figure head. This is the reason Hinduism survived the brutal islamic invasions unlike coptic and zorastrian and other pagan cultures where the figure head was killed and the entire populace became Muslims. also the fact that education via a disciplic succession ensured that the moorings were never lost, unlike what happened in Persia or egypt or elsewhere. islam completely over ran every aspect of the felled population but Hinduism offered unwavering resistance to islamic brutality. These conversions in & out keep happening all the time. We recently converted half a village from islam back to hinduism. but that will not be in news due to the safety of those that left islam. Now you are the one that needs to think.

  20. PATRIOTISM OF INDIAN MUSLIMS – A BALANCED PERSPECTIVE

    1) India Muslims are so patriot that they are worried about Laden’s (who has declared jihad against India) burial given by American Government so much so that the Muslim Newspaper of India criticized America for it and sent their stooge Digvijay Singh to express their sentiments.

    2) India Muslims are so patriot that anybody who allows illegal Bangladeshi Muslims in India they will give their votes to them and anybody who is against Bangladeshi illegal immigrants will lose their votes.

    3) Anybody who supports Laden and criticize Hindus is their messiah like Digvijay Singh.

    4) Many Indian Muslims in Mumbai are diehards supporters of Dawood and Indian Mujaheddin. Muslim ghettos or “Mini pakistan” in Mumbai provide support to them.

    5) Indian Muslims are so patriot that ATS of many states say that they are not getting any support from Indian Muslim community and on contrary are facing harassment from them by using Human rights violation case against them.

    6) Indian Muslims call pakistani’s as Hum watan brothers and has sympathies for pakistan.

    7) When Pakistani terrorist’s attacked Mumbai in 26/11 many Indian Muslims leaders came with theories that it is RSS, CIA, MOSSAD black operations so that their dear pakistan does not get entangled in International Row.

    8) Many Indian Muslim leaders tried to force Indian Government not to sign Nuclear Treaty with America because their beloved Islamic Nation Pakistan will get weakened compared to India.

    9) A Muslim Journalist himself has revealed in his book BLACK FRIDAY that it was Indian Muslim Woman of Mumbai who provoked DAWOOD to kill innocent Hindus.

    10) Many Muslims Imams of UP and Bihar openly say that they are ISI agents.

    Not every Indian Muslim is traitor but to take Indian Muslims Patriotism as granted is also foolishness.

    BEWARE!

    • Thanks Totagoto brother great link, I got disgusted when I read in Debganga “MUSLIMS OPENLY DECLARING THAT THEY WILL RAPE HINDU WOMANS” now where is the BLOODY HUMAN RIGHTS ORGANIZATIONS AND MEDIA GONE WHO KEPT ON BARKING ABOUT GODHRA RIOTS.

      WHY IS THERE NO CBI OR SIT INQUIRY FOR DEBGANGA OR MARAD CARNAGE IN KERALA.

      INDIA IS SLOWLY TURNING INTO PAKISTAN FOR HINDUS.

      I WISH WE HAD MINISTER LIKE MODI IN BENGAL AND KERALA DURING DEBGANGA AND MARAD CARNAGE TO AVENGE FOR OUR HINDU BROTHERS AND SISTERS.

      • West Bengal: The Safe Heaven for Islamic Extrimists of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh.
        IT (Islamic Terror) Hunt in a Heaven of Peace called West Bengal.

        By BengalSpotlight blog

        Terror Hunt in West Bengal
        Sambuddha Gupta || Spotlight news services || KOLKATA & SILIGURI || 20th July 2011
        As a part of nationwide crackdown on suspected terrorists, two persons were arrested in Bihar’s Kishanganj district late on Saturday in connection with 13/7 serial blasts in Mumbai. The main suspect has been identified as Harkat-ul-Jihad-al-Islami (HuJI) operative. This HuJI pin Mohammad Riyazul Sarkar, is said to be a resident of South Dinajpur, West Bengal.
        Arrested Riyazul Sarkar was a resident of village Malancha under Tapan Police Station in the District of South Dinajpur, as the local report delineates. In 2002, the family of Riyazul came to Nakarh village under Gangarampur to change the life of utter poverty caused by early demise of Riyaz’s father. Though some papers and media mistakenly reports that Riyazul is a resident of North Dinajpur, the bytes of channels and some residents of Kishanganj authenticated the arrest of Riyazul of Nakarh village by the special investigative team of police.
        Riyazul has an education of primary level and he went to Mumbai five years ago for searching a job there. After that he was not a closer to anybody and his new friends were also so mysterious. Sometimes he used to go beyond the border of West Bengal to reach Bangladesh for some unknown causes.
        Mr. Swarup Banerjee Purnapatra, Superintend of Police, D Dinajpur told the media that he has no specific information about Riyazul Sarkar in any case of terror involvement or whether had any Riyazul in Uttar Dinajpur as such.
        But, now in another district of North Bengal, Darjeeling is put under a high alert as three suspected HuJI and Lashkar militants entered into West Bengal and sheltered underground near Siliguri, as the reports came in. Sources told that two of the Islamists are connected with HuJI and the third is an operative of Lashkar-e-Toiba. After the 13/7 triple blast at Mumbai, the Islamic militants are trying to hide in the sleeper cells of their operatives as their security reason and Islamist always prefer West Bengal as a safe zone for the Islamic outfits for a long time, before they attacked American centre in Kolkata in 2002.
        It is believed those militants, Habib Khan and Golam Khan came from Coomilla, Bangladesh and the other Saukat Hossian is a Kashmiri. On 19th police captured one from Howrah Station and he is being interrogated to have some clue from him. The Intelligence Deptt alerted the matter through Home Deptt for tackling any situation of apprehended big attack in West Bengal.
        As the missing suspects in 13/7, Abdullha is a kith and kin of Amir Reza of Mafidul Islam Lane, Kolkata, as bytes bite and the situation of pressure to crackdown the terror links in West Bengal, the police has been alerted in the northern border districts very tactfully including the other parts of West Bengal.
        North Bengal IG, Ranveer Kumar asserted the security check has been doubled very seriously after 13/7 in every places Siliguri including New Jalpaiguri Rly station, Tensing Norgay Bus stand, shopping malls, crowded areas and Indian Oil Depots areas. Sniffer dogs are in searching clues and police in civil dress are covering day and night to futile possible blasts in Siliguri, Asansole, Kolkata or Kharagpur. Nobody in Delhi, Mumbai, Kolkata and Ahamedabad are in peace as these main cities in India are under the scanner of Islamic Jihadists. CBI has requested the Interpol to issue a red corner alert in this stake.
        The arrested militant Haroon Sk., captured by Special Task Force of Kolkata Police from Howrah Rly Station on 19th, is primarily connected with Indian Mujaheedin He was captured by the information as given by another arrested suspect from Beniapukur Lane. This person of Beniapukur was arrested on the basis of the pictures drawn by the police detectives upon clues derived from key suspects of 13/7 Mumbai blasts, Riyazul @ Akash & Mehatab (HuJI) now arrested from Kishangunj in Bihar and Danish Sheikh (IM) from Baroda in Gujrat. But all of them have some certain connection with Kolkata, the safest place of the Islamic terrorist in West Bengal, Eastern India or may be the safest in India.
        In this connection the ISI and DGFI have more excellently (though heinous) put the challenge before their Indian counterpart RAW, NIA, CBI or others. The challenge is now unbearable to the public.
        In the last 34 years of Left Front regime, this bed of Islamic Expansionism was nurtured in the soil of West Bengal. Now Bengali Hindus are facing a provocative Islamic autocracy in the “Changed” hands of present Trinmool Congress-Congress regime. In this state of affairs, WB Hindus can only wait for a future dragged into nothing but a Talibani Terror as being faced by common Hindu people in Bangladesh and Pakistan or in a Kashmir that we are habituated not to see.

        http://hindurevolution.blogspot.com/2011/07/west-bengal-safe-heaven-for-islamic.html

  22. INDIAN MUSLIMS who feel discriminated in India should go and live in PAKISTAN instead of planting bombs in India because pakistan was created for those muslims who feel they are discriminated in Hindu majority India. Most of Hindus who feel unsafe in Pakistan are leaving Pakistan and going to India or other western countries instead of planting bombs likewise indian muslims who feel they are discriminated in India should leave India instead of killing innocent people.

  23. Great work Satyagni moderators. The only way we can have a true Indian identity is when we declare India as Hindustan which is a country of Hindus and those others who consider their ancestors to be Hindus. People who deny this can go to the Ghori and Ghazni lands.

  24. INDIA’S FIRST EDUCATION MINISTER WAS A WAHABI MAULANA (Maulana abul kalam azad) WHO INJECTED MUSLIM FANTASIES IN INDIAN EDUCATION SYSTEM LIKE BABUR GIVING HIS LIFE AS BONUS TO HUMAYUN, MUSLIMS INVADERS CONQUERING INDIA WITHOUT MUCH STRUGGLE AND IMPOSITION OF SECULARISM ONLY ON HINDUS.

    Maulana abul kalam azad was wahabi of afghan origin and greatly influenced by SHAH WALI ULLAH’S POLITICAL THOUGHT i.e Muslims should get all the benefits and Hindus should be secondary citizen living as slaves to muslims. SHAH WALI ULLAH was the TRAITOR who invited ABDALI from Afghanistan to attack India and make Hindus as slaves of Muslim (LOL Indian Muslim patriotism).

    SO FROM THE DAY OF INDEPENDENCE THERE WAS A GREAT CONSPIRACY GOING ON TO MAKE HINDUS SECONDARY CITIZEN AND MAKING MUSLIMS THE LANDLORDS OF INDIA.

    http://www.saag.org/common/uploaded_files/paper629.html

    • @ Deepak: Azad was an Ashrafi. He had quasi Arab blood. He not only tampered with history but ensured that Indian Muslims were secondary to Ashrafis in the society.

      • @Rushmore Bro, you are right the higher caste Ashrafi Muslims always exploited the lower caste muslims and turned their anger towards Hindus. They brainwashed the non arab lower caste muslims that their underdevelopment is due to their living in non muslim Hindu majority country India whereas in reality what is offered to Hindus is also offered to Muslims.

  25. @shravak jee
    kehne se kuch nahi hota sirf karne se hota
    muslim kaha aur tum hindus kaha
    you people are so far from truth just you people think that by getting profession you are litterate but think that what you gain in faculty is a profession you people are far from the real knowledge which is in our religion.
    Namaskar Jahil hindu

    • what real knowledge? That a donkey can fly, stones can steal, a man(though he said he can’t perform miracles) can split moon into two, a horse with a human head etc etc.

      If these are called real knowledge its better to remain naive.

      khuda hafiz, jahil jehadi.

      • @shravak jee

        Are the blaspheme what you written it is in your book I think not in our book understand!!!
        It is something that you people believe on mumbo jumbo and talesmaness ok that donkey can fly it is in banglor that your litterate people don’t believe on it
        Thanks

      • @sayed alim

        All books are wrong which talk about miracles & treat them as Man made book. Mohamad was my real follower. I appear in heart of my follower. My follower are those who consistently do noble deed for welfare of all people. My follower never search me outside. I am within my follower. I always guide them. Moko Kaha Dunde Bande mai to tere pass me (Where are u searching me I am within you). I am Allah, surrender yourself only to me & never think of any human while worshiping me.

      • @shravak

        You are correct my child. All books which talk about miracles are man made & it is my order to reject them for your betterment. Otherwise hell is waiting for you. I am Allah.

      • @beloved Allah

        but brother syed believes in these fairytales. Please address him also that all those books which contains such kind of miracles should not be followed.

        Hadith Volume 5, Book 58, Number 227: flying donkey

        Qur’anic verse 54:1-2: splitting of moon

        Sahih Muslim 30:5850: stone steal clothes

      • @Allah:

        But, but, but…what about em talking ants and em flying insects that threw stones on them invaders of our beloved Kaaba? You mean Mo or Abu or Ali just made all this shit up?

      • PRAVEEN SWAMY HAS EXPOSED TRAITOR ZAKIR NAIK’S IRF. He has said that FEROZ DESHMUKH IRF’S LIBRARIAN HAS LINKS WITH MANY TERRORIST ORGANISATION LIKE LASHKAR AND ISI. NO WONDER FEROZ DESHMUKH WHO WAS A LIBRARIAN OF IRF MUST HAVE GOT THE MAXIMUM OPPORTUNITY OF READING AND SEEING ZAKIR NAIKS WORK AND THIS MADE HIM A STAUNCH SUPPORTER OF TERRORISM.

      • @ Allah:
        Bismillah Raheman e rahim!.. Allah (Subah Ana Abhi Tala hai) once everything is over.. Judgement Night is over,.. everybody is admitted to Heaven and Hell according to their Karmas.. sorry sorry according to their Beliefs… Hell dwellers in hell.. getting their Asses burnt and heaven dwellers in Heaven enjoying Houris.. What will you do??… everything is now finished.. the task is complete!.. what will u do then?? .. what will u do with Lohe Mehfooz??.. What are your Vacation Plans Allah (Suibah Ana Abhi Tala hai) ??

      • @ Atman: Great question. The kafirs will continue to burn eternally in hell. Those in the heaven will continue to indulge in orgies with houris eternally. Those that died fighting for allah will hang from the chandelier above allah with allah repeatedly asking them if they need anything else and them repeatedly saying that they would love to be born once again and die once again fighting for allah . The ego of allah will continue to bulge eternally. Can someone say what happens to women that end up in heaven? Do they also enjoy group orgies with the male equivalent of houris in heaven?

    • @sayed alim

      For to be true Muslim is it mandatory:-
      To believe in foreigners.
      To believe in incest.
      To recite human in God prayer.
      To believe in miracle
      To Bow head before Kaba stone
      To kiss black stone.
      To support child marriage & made woman sex slaves.
      To believe Allah was sitting idly before the universe creation.
      To believe Allah is limited just to his throne on 7th sky.

      Is it truth of Islam? Do you agree on said points. If not Why?

      • @truth seeker

        As you mentioned your name truth seeker,but you are blind,accusing and blame seeker!

        1:There is no mandatory in Islam religion Ok” wrong criticism
        2:Yes,we believe in foriegners as a creatures. worng criticism
        3:We do Nikah and word(incest)is in your religion not in our religion.
        4:Yes we preach the other toward oneness and prayer to rescue from hell.
        5:Yes we believe in miracle the truth miracle which is Quran that guide the people toward benevolent and luckyness.
        7:We bow head for Allah not for the stone like you people you people worship the sculpture and idols which is made by your hands if you want you throw it out and if you want you break it.
        8:Yes,we kiss black stone not worship it.
        9:Muslims don’t want thier community to corrupt and having ethical corruptions if the child is growing up and you marry him/her they will never commit to ethical corruption.And show me the women sex slaves in Islam,Islam is the religion which bans the slavery if you read the history Mr!
        Our wife is our partner’s life but your wife is the wife of all nation if they want to do corruptions with every one then thay do you people don’t have the authority of your wife so please wear bangal and sit in house.
        9:The creator should be in 7th sky not in the hand of dirty people like you and infedals,that you people make idols and sometimes clean it from dust hmmm very amazing even your stonic fake idols can’t clean him self how he help you.
        10:Allah is the creator of universe what he want what he do he knows better than me and you.There are angles that they do what Allah(swt)wants.

        Try to change the name from Truth seeker to something else Please!!!!!

      • @sayed alim
        >>We bow head for Allah not for the stone like you people you people worship the sculpture and idols which is made by your hands if you want you throw it out and if you want you break it.
        Even we bow to god, the stone statue or anything else is just a direction for us.
        Idols cannot do any harm nor the non existing allah of muhhamad can do any harm.

        >>:Yes,we kiss black stone not worship it.
        what is meant by worship?

        >> And show me the women sex slaves in Islam
        How did muhamamd die?, hasnt he died due to the poisioning of a captive woman? we call woman like maria slaves, i dont know what you call.

        >>The creator should be in 7th sky not in the hand of dirty people like you and infedals,
        Let the dirty creator come and say that, not you a filthy polygamous,blood thirsty vampire.
        >>Allah is the creator of universe what he want what he do he knows better than me and you.There are angles that they do what Allah(swt)wants.

        The non existent allah cannot even do anything to filthy kafirs. Please stop believing the fake god allah and start believing the true god “Adolf Hitler”.

      • @adolf hitler

        Can you tell that who is God that you worship it? Answer it please
        The direction for God is not a stone but heart!

        Please answer who is the God that you worship it?

    • Wrong Sayed. Most Muslims are used to the parroted words of their faith being above every other faith and that theirs is the only righteous path. Those Muslims that are a bit intellectually inclined, when presented with contrary evidences tend to stonewall, then sulk, then start exploring the facts themselves and start to redefine their perspectives. When a community loses the thinkers among them, the entire community will fail to progress and gradually implode. Move beyond the scriptures. None of your friends on this site has been able to resolve the question on why a good kafir should burn in hell, just because he is not a Muslim. Resolve this first, please….

      • @rushmore

        Why a good Kafir burn in hell?

        Kafir is Kafir not a muslim even he is good or bad.
        Being benevolent although is Kafir he/she will be burn in hell because the name which is nominated on Kafir means deviant people who are misdirected by the deviant scholars has given fatwa for their beneficail rules.’

        like: Most christian do corruptions and they go to their Pops and say that we have done this corruptions what should we do then the Pop say to them what the corruptions you commited Isa (Masih) will take the responsibality of that,and the corruption will up on Isa (Masih).

        2:Jews has been killing the prophets of Allah since Yaqoob (hail to him) and now they have intractably subrcirbe the law that they say we are the best humankind in the world and give fatwa that stand up oh my jews brother and sister and kill the Najis people Najis people are those who are not jew even Hindus,Zorastian…….etc

        3:Hindus worship cow,mouse,idols…..etc there are more than 800 religion which contain animals and without life things.

        Result:Now you read it,Ask it and think it deeply who will go to hell Muslims or Kafirs.
        Thanks

      • You are simply trying to interpret what kafir/unbeliever is.So a righteous person that does not believe in Allah or the judgement day will still burn in hell because he does not believe in Allah, right? So Martin Luther King who gave his life fighting against racism is right now burning in hell because he worshiped Jehovah? The kafir that swam against the tides to save men during tsunami in 2004 & died in doing so ( my friend’s brother, a Hindu) is right now burning in hell because he was a Hindu. Buddha and Mahavir are right now burning in hell because they did not believe in Allah and judgement day, right?

      • @rushmore

        As it is bovious that no one no religion want the racism and King Martin Luther he has done for
        he has done for the revival of his kingdom not for religion.
        If you read the history of Islam Mohammed (PBUH) banned the people who buried the girls lively and worshipped the idols.
        I don’t say that Kafir has’nt done good for the people they did good for their nations not for all humankind.but Islam has been donig for all universe since when it emerged.
        Like gandi jee he has done for the Indian nation not for all .
        Tsunami there is’nt any evidence that the man has swam to rescue the others,there were many men who were swimming to rescue themselves not the others.
        Thanks

      • Syed, parking Islam aside, you have no business telling that someone I knew personally that died trying to save others, as trying to save himself. That was what he precisely did. He saw a few kids being washed away and instantaneously jumped and died. Your lack of defence in this case and Islam have blinded your ability to think logically. Do not disrespect the memory of this self less soul.

        Please enlighten the great contributions of Islam to humanity other than what we are seeing everyday across the globe and what out forefathers witnessed when camel riders entered this great land with their swords and qurans.

      • @sayed

        suppose, if you(a believer) met with a fire accident and I (a non-believer) save you from it and ‘while saving you’ i lost my life. Afterlife, i would go to hell or heaven?

      • @sayed alim:

        Nonsense. It is due to Allah’s stupidity that he cannot save Kufrs. For Allah himself says in Quran 32:13 “And if we had willed, We could have given every soul its guidance, but the word from Me will come into effect [that] “I will surely fill Hell with jinn and people all together.”

        Stupid Allah who does something without actually thinking it through and then is bound by his stupid word 🙁

        Also, Quran 18:104-105 basically say for us Kufrs NO AMOUNT OF GOOD WORK amounts to piddly doo doo in front of your tyrannical Allah.

        The only reason why you are a Muslim is that you are afraid of the very graphic descriptions of hell in the Quran. Free your mind of these worries. There is no eternal afterlife. May the truth set you and your mind free.

      • @kalbhairav

        Look you show your regard and manner that your scholar learn you good encountering with the people
        try to have good manner it will be good for your personality.
        Allah has created us and show us good and bad ways so if you do good so you will be in heaven and if you do bad or evils so you will be in hell.
        there is no mandatory in Islam whether you become Muslim or Hindu but the preaching is our duty to save ones life.
        Thanks

      • @sayed

        ————there is no mandatory in Islam whether you become Muslim or Hindu but the preaching is our duty to save ones life.————

        But, didn’t you just now said that it doesn’t matter if you’re a good human being you will not go to heaven until or unless if you’re a muslim. huh? Split personality?

      • @sayed alim (Mohamad king of kaffirs)

        Mohmad was the biggest kaffir of world ever took birth. What massage has he given by doing sex with a child girl of 9 years?
        What the Massage has he given be making woman sex slaves?

      • @rushmore

        Logic!!! hmm
        If you had logic so you would be a Muslim and directed spritual person.
        Saving someone’s life is the task of each humankind whether he/she is muslim,christian,jew,hindu….etc.
        The great contribution of Islam has enlighten since many years but your ear,eyes and heart have sealed.

  27. @shravak

    Your question

    suppose, if you(a believer) met with a fire accident and I (a non-believer) save you from it and ‘while saving you’ i lost my life. Afterlife, i would go to hell or heaven?

    Take the answer

    If you save my life so it is your humanity task unless you are not a Muslim you will never go to heaven.
    Saving someone life is the task of every humankind Uderstand!

    • @sayed alim

      _______If you save my life so it is your humanity task unless you are not a Muslim you will never go to heaven.Saving someone life is the task of every humankind Uderstand!______

      Saving the life of believer leads to eternal hell to Sharavk Brother. Brother Allah is very cruel.Saving life of any does not matter

      • @ truth seeker

        The creatures have created to know Almighty Allah power and oneness and life means worshipping Allah and serving the mankinds.

        And I reply again that If someone die and he or she is not muslim so they will be in hell.

    • @sayed

      i wish you really met with an accident, crying for help in front of me and then i will i ask you ‘brother, why should i save you? if my destiny is locked in lohe mehfooz. khuda hafiz’

      @Muslims Apologists…. now do i need to say something?

      • @shravak

        I like a terrible accident but crying not in my status like you people when faces an accident then cry enen giving bad language to your idols.
        Thanks

    • Thanks. This was exactly the response I was waiting for Syed – “unless you are not a Muslim you will never go to heaven.” This is precisely the problem with Islam and Muslims. Why is it that only those that kiss the kaba have the gate pass to heaven? What is so great about Quran that discusses slave taking and polygamy and the hadiths that talk about menstrual cycle of women and rules in favoring of killing the kafir? 95% of Indian Muslims are Muslims because of what Islamic invasions did to their forefathers / mothers. How can you guys reconcile with the faith that unleashed rape and loot on mayhem on our own forefathers and trumpet that Islam is best. Open your eyes Syed. You have non-madrasa education with you. Every scientific crap tagged with Islam has been proved to be a hoax perpetrated by the likes of Dr.Moore & Dr.Bucaille due to Saudi money. If Islam is so great a religion & so peaceful, barbarians like Timur & Babur would not have been produced by Islam. Within Islam, Shias and Sunnis slit each others’ throats all the time. All the past so called islamic knowledge was borrowed / stolen from India, Persia, Greece and old world Turkey.

      Instead of making the world a better place, Muslims worry about an imaginary hell where people are burnt forever and ever and worry about their beards, colored hair and length of the pyjamas & jewish, Hindu, American conspiracies. Leave Islam and reclaim your true God given freedom.

      • @rushmore

        That is true if some one is not Muslim so he/she will not go to heaven without any doubt.
        Quran is the book with out any doubt if you take out doubt so please offer it .
        It is better that worship Allah not mouse and cow and even husbands. so amazing
        About invasion::::In battle field any thing which is for the betterment of conquest is elligable.
        Show me the war without taking instrument of enemy.
        About Timoor:::::::He was the emperor whose empire was upto russia and india and east and west.

        So please show me the achievement of India in past history with out slaving
        So please reclaim and convert to Islam.
        Thanks

      • Syed, parroting the same thing is of no use. You say that anything for betterment of conquest is eligible. This is precisely the islamic way of war, as opposed to the kshatriya way of war, where non-combatants and towns are never ransacked. If you really want to understand history, please let me know your email if. I can draw instances of battles that were fought with the kshatriya based rules of engagements as opposed to the barbaric brutal islamic onslaughts across India, Persia, Egypt, Syria, North Africa and Spain. Rape, kidnapping women, destroying places of worship, mutilating dead bodies of kafirs are unique to islamic jihads since the time of battle of badr. I have tons and tons of Islamic sources of history to refer to.

        Timur was the Hitler of the medieval age.Infact he was worse than Hitler. Again, please share your email id and from Islamic sources of history I’d love to enumerate his animal like exploits.
        And who knows how your forefathers ended up getting enslaved by islam. It is quite possible the “noble” “gentle” “emperors” that ruled central asia or arabia or islamized iran brutalized your forefathers into submitting to islam.

        I do not have to reclaim anything. You are the one that has to reclaim the broken lineage tying you back to Hinduism. Islam was and is a brutal blood interruption. So, leave islam and enjoy God given freedom.

      • @sayed

        Unfortunately the betterment of conquest of Timurs and Baburs resulted in rapes of YOUR mothers, sisters and daughters 🙁

        Just curious, are you still ready to offer your mother, sisters, wife, daughters to become whores of brothels of any superpower that invades your country for betterment of their conquest? Or you only give your mother and sisters to Arab conquerors?

      • @Bro Rushmore

        Pouring the knowledge into retarded Jihadi parrot brain is next to impossible. Just look at this terrorist named Sayed. He sees no wrong in slavery and the reason is straight. He has been practicing it for centuries and is habitual of seeing his mothers and sisters in the Harems of his Arabic masters who were appointed for divine mission of making world Dar al Islam and rape as many women of their slaves like Sayed as possible so that more and more slaves cum terrorists like him can be bred.

        I request you to share the accounts from Islamic history that expose Walis and Auliyas with everyone here. Your attempt to convince this terrorist on email is only going to be the waste of your potential and great knowledge. Please share with all of us whatever you have.

        Thanks

      • @rushmore

        What you mentioned these texts it is based on the film which is made by your people.
        Like if you want to harsh someone background you can make it and spread it in media or brochure or in journals also.But the main issue is glancing over in history Muslims have’nt looted yet in war those thing or instruments that remained from the Infedal they have taken it in battlefield like before starting war Infedals brought their women and after defeating their women would remain so on that time Muslims took it and convert it to Islam this is obvious for all as history is evident in history.
        But one thing more that Islam is the demolisher of slavery and alive burier girls.
        And at the end I want to tell you that our God is Allah waht is your God’s name Please???

      • Syed, please stop posting nothings as part of your responses. Farishtah, Mulfuzat-i-Timuri , Ashiqa, The Life and Times of Sultan Mahmud of Ghazna ( by Muhammad Nazim ), Chach Nama, Futuh-us-Salatin, Tarikh-i-Wassaf etc are not movies made by “my” people as you claim. These are chronicles done by Arab, Turkish, Persian historians and travelers like Ibn Battutah. So do not puke your standard Aligarh University crap or what your jamat feeds you as history. Slavery is Islam is the worst of its kind. You could start with the works of the Arab traveler Ibn Battutah, if you wish.

      • @shravak

        Allah is the creator and he shows us the way through his prophet and we the follower of him.
        Yes,there is different between Allah and us and that difference is Allah is the creator and we are the creatures.
        Clowning it is belong to your religion Mr that you people worship the animals
        WOW! worshipping the six hand man idol and believe him as a mother.
        Is cow your mother?
        If it is true than no more commenting
        Hahahahah

      • @sayed alim/Shravak/KB/ Others
        I ordered of my worship , only purpose is that human can purify themselves and only purified soul can sacrifice his/her life for other human welfare in better way. Human service & my worship both are one. There is not a difference of a point between two. I give result of deed committed by human. As you sow a seed in soil & gets thousand in return in the same way when you do welfare of others I give thousand times more in return. Depends on good or bad deeds. I am cause of all cause. Never bow head before any stone. I am omnipresent but always pure as sun rays fall on everything but never gets affected from good or bad & as light spread all over but never gets affected by any good or bad in the same way I am everywhere/omnipresent, you can not measure me. There is not a point of space where I am not exist. Worship only me, concentrate only on me. I am the giver of all. All souls are my subjects, I am king. My all subject & I am eternal. There was not a time when we, I am (Allah) & my subjects(souls) do not exist. I transform the nature & gives body to all souls so that they can get ultimate bliss by doing noble deed consistently. I make the universe, it is my nature not will. It is eternal & everlasting process. I am Allah-ultimate bliss.

      • @sayed

        well, its still better than believing in a paedophile, murderer, illiterate, looter, sex maniac etc etc as a messenger of God.

        btw..show us one verse from vedas to support your tosh.

      • @shravak

        Murdere has fame not animal worshipper
        illetracy is better than immetating from west
        Well I don’t have information about looting if you have about your looting information so offer than.
        Well you people are seeking and getting interest with sex maniac not us because you people write in magazine and sale the women like Tawaif.
        Our messanger is the greatest messanger in the world it is clear for all because any thing which he had said it is happeining and prooving right now in science.
        Vedas::::::A kufr book which does’nt have bases and the verses are writthen by the mankind.

  28. @atish

    I think your mother fucker scholar tought you blaspheme and abusing some one.
    Or you are the one whose your mother has raped so there for you want this deed for everyone.
    Whether you don’t have awarness about your mother and sister that where they go and what they do,It is better you die that your sister doing favour with every young guys.
    Shame on you!!

  29. @Truth seeker

    He has created us and shows good and bad way whether you choose good way you will be heaven
    If you choose a bad way you will be dived in hell

    Benifite:::The benefite is for us not for him just he has created us for examination

  30. @truth seeker/kal/deepak/shravak/atish…etc

    Please tell why you people worship animals like cow and mouse.
    Even they can’t talk if someone wants to assisnate them they can mouse is the dirtiest animal in the world how you worship dirty animal either cow every one eats its meat and utilizes from its milk.
    and its skin which makes wool used in carpet which is under foot.
    You fake God even can’t defeat from it self. Very Amazing?

    Hahahahah
    Thanks

    • @sayed alim

      Worship only me (Allah). Never recite human name in my prayer. Never think of human in my prayer. No need to follow rituals/superstitions, no need Kissing of stones, no need go around any building. I am all-powerful, most intelligent. Treat you daughter in law as your real daughter. I am Allah. Treat all children as your children. I always wish betterment of my children(all souls). I never punish my children. If you say I Punish children it is just for their betterment. I am king and all my subject (souls/Praja) both are eternal. Cow is most sacred animal made by me. Use best of it. Protect the cow.

    • @Sayed alim do you know the KABA or HAJRE ASWAD which you worship every Friday and Kiss during HAJ was actually a TOILET AND URINAL OF QARMATIANS FOR 20 years they urinated and excreted on it for 20 years and POOR ALLAH AND HIS IMPOTENT ANGELS who were protecting the kaba and Hajre Aswad were not able to to do anything to protect it and the Qarmatians killed many muslims and put their rotten corpses in zamzam well from which the muslims are drinking water this incidents are given in scores of Islamic scriptures.

      @Sayed alim you people worship the DEAD BODIES OF THOSE PEOPLE who raped your mother and sisters LIKE GHAURI, GHAZANVI, AND BABUR who raped your mother and sisters and made your forefathers forcefully muslims and you muslims now call your MAMA’S RAPIST AS PIR LIKE PIR GHAURI, PIR GHAZANVI, PIR BABUR ETC (ESPECIALLY THE PAKISTANIS WHO ARE PROUD THAT THEIR MOTHERS AND SISTERS WERE RAPED BY ARABS, TURKS AND AFGHANS). THE PAKISTANIS HAVE NAMED THEIR MISSILES AFTER THEIR MAMA’S RAPIST LIKE GHAURI, BABUR GHAZANVI LOL)

      Ha Ha Ha Sayed alim next FRIDAY when you offer Namaz remember that your worshiping a URINAL/TOILET.

      http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=59436

    • @sayed

      You did not reply on the issue of your women turning whores of Arabic brothels so that betterment of conquest of your Arab masters can be ensured!

      ———– Please tell why you people worship animals like cow and mouse.————

      Worshipping LIVING cow is wiser than worshipping dead in graves, black stone, and a dead pedophile rapist whom you think is alive inside his grave 🙂

      BTW can you prove that Allah whom you worship besides Muhammad, black stone, graves, and Peers…, is not any animal? One who throws non believers to eternal hell must be an ETERNAL ANIMAL! What say?

      ————Even they can’t talk if someone wants to assisnate them———–

      Can Allah talk if I abuse Him? No. But try any cow some day! Dont surround her like coward butchers with 8 men, go alone and hold her horns! You will know what she can do! She can certainly do better than what your non existent Allah do 🙂

      ———–mouse is the dirtiest animal in the world how you worship dirty animal either cow every one eats its meat and utilizes from its milk.————

      1. No. To wise people it is Allah who is dirtiest animal in the world who will remain animal ETERNALLY!
      2. And how wise is to use milk of dirty animal, Mr Dumber? Is your mother also dirty for you because you drank her milk?

      ————-and its skin which makes wool used in carpet which is under foot.————

      Your Kaba idol when was taken away by enemies of Islam, was used as URINAL and you still worship and Kiss it! So kissing a carpet is still a better idea than kissing a urinal 😉

      ————You fake God even can’t defeat from it self. ————

      Now with this I agree! But the God who cant defeat itself must be called as Real God, shouldn’t he? But unfortunately fake Quran’s fake Allah fails in this aspect too 🙁 He kept on defeating Himself every day by sending contradictory verses to His prophet. Amazing?

      • Thanks Bros AR and KB

        Right now am engaged with some personal stuff but couldn’t stop myself after seeing this terrorist misusing our Islamic (peaceful) forum to spread Kufr 🙂

        And needless to say you guys are rocking.. Hope to join you next week actively in our holy mission of spreading Islam and crushing Kufr… TC

      • @vijra

        We don’t worship grave neither black stone.
        About rapist:::Who has rapped your Indian people I don’t eager that who has done because you people accused that Indian people rapped by the babur or ghaznavi or timur.You people misread the personalities history they have come to spread Islam to the India and you people accused on them.

        Prooving Allah beside Mohammed Verses of Quran itself the prooving Allah beside Mohammed if you read carefully.An animal can’t throw the non believers to the eternal hell except the creator.

        Absuing and assissination has difference.
        Allah is not like us if someone abuse us we will jumpe on him he is the creator and has a lot of patience and if he wants to give punishment he can with out any doubt.
        Suppose if there is’nt any knife to salying the cow at last she can kill by the pistole right?

        Well if you glorify mouse so it is belong to your lack of education if it is a good animal so why you people kill it and put him a drug for killing. What kind God is it that can be killed by someone …lol

        About milk::Is the best food in the world I don’t claim that Wrong criticism

        Well it is obvious Mr Vijra that Kaba has been the place of worshipping since it building and the enemies of Islam did worship their idols how it is sagnificant that the place where you worship must be dity and when Our Prophet Mohammed (PBUH)conquest the Kaba the stone that you mentioned put by Our great Prophet after conquering Kaba……Wrong history reader

        Thanks

      • From 3:35….This guy claims that after he was been attacked and was about to taken to the hospital, he saw prophet muhammed came to him, kept the hand on his head and told him that he will not gonna die. This guy also claims that when he was been admitted to CARE hospital he saw his father’s soul begging for his son’s life from KGN, Dastgir, Khwaja.

        See how he is fooling muslims. And semi-literates shouting slogans in support of him. Nice Show.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOXxZuXakeE&feature=related

  31. @ Syed, you seem to be a kiddo. God, as God did not ask himself / herself to be named. Allah or Vishnu or Jesus are names that humans give to God. God as God does not really ask, expect a name. God itself is a personal name to an entity that is too incomprehensible to the average human mind. It is the human limitation of mind to think beyond names and symbols that prompts the need for a named Supreme Power. That is why Vedas, while catering to the average human intellect that rides on name and symbol (nama rupam), also give importance to God by addressing him/her as THAT ONE.

    And if there are people that worship mouse, as you claim, they are obviously ignorant about what Hindu scriptures say about God. At the same time, what claim or right do you have as someone that worships the dead and bows to meteors housed in a black stone and believes that polygamy is kosher and slavery is fine to criticize them?

    • @Agniveer/Apollo/Vajra/Other Scholar
      As in Kuran writer starts the book with name of God & God glorification as:-
      [1:1] In the name of GOD, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
      [1:2] Praise be to GOD, Lord of the universe.
      [1:3] Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
      But How Veda start. Who is addressing in First mantra of Veda & which is first mantra of Veda. Please explain meaning of first Mantra of Veda. & From which Veda that is (Rig, Yajur, Sam, Athar) first mantra starts. Please put some light on it & although I have also checked it but could not understood much.

      • @ TS: The first verses in the Rig Veda are addressed to Agni. Agni is the Vedic symbol of the Almighty on earth. Agni in Vedas personifies truth, Agni is the minister that oversees the sacrifice, the one that maintains the Vedic rta (or eternal law), a friend of man and dispeller of darkness.As we move across mandalas it becomes obvious that Agni is the polymorphic reality – the sacrificial fire at the altar, the fire that burns in the Sun, in the heart of man, the heat that sustains life forms and the fire that drives away ignorance.

        The first set of hymns to Agni in RV are attributed to sage Vishwamitra’s lineage – Maduchandas Vishwamitra.

      • @Apolloreach

        But who is addressing to Agni?& If Veda knowledge are given by God in beginning of creation to four Rishi then how Maduchandas Vishwamitra name matters here. & Is God is addressing to God (Agni)? If Veda are God Given then first Mantra must be addressed to human by God. Please clarify.

      • Bro TS

        Bro Apollo has already discussed Mantra beautifully. Now lets look at Quran. Quran has mainly two kinds of verses. One that are direct commandments of Allah and other that have been recited from the mouth of Muhammad. Latter verses start with “Ikra” that means “read”. So all verses that are to be read from Muhammad’s side start with Ikra. Now Quran [1:1] starts with “In the name of God”.

        Now question for Islamists is that which kind of verse [1:1] is this? If this is from Allah’s side then there is some super God whom Allah is praising! If this is from Muhammad’s side then this verse should have been started with “Ikra” but that is not the case! So in first condition Allah is proven to be an inferior God to a superior God. In latter condition, Quran becomes inconsistent 🙁

        PS: This question of praising any super God does not come in case of Vedas because there is no Ikra technology involved in Vedas. Scholars themselves recognize from the meaning whether any Mantra is a commandment from Eeshvar or a prayer to be read by devotee.

      • Bro TS

        ————But who is addressing to Agni?———

        Devotee of Eeshvar. Eeshvar, in Vedas teaches us how and whom to pray. Thus there you will find many devotional Mantras that Eeshvar has given so that we can remember Him in best way!

        ———-That is why & If Veda knowledge are given by God in beginning of creation to four Rishi then how Maduchandas Vishwamitra name matters here.———

        Rishi of Mantra is not its Kartaa. Rishis of Mantra are those who have worked/researched on corresponding Mantras and enlightened people with their meanings.

        ———-Is God is addressing to God (Agni)?————

        It is devotee who is asking it from God. God teaches us how to pray 🙂

        ———– If Veda are God Given then first Mantra must be addressed to human by God. ———-

        Vedas have many kinds of Mantras. Devotional, Rita (eternal laws as told by AR), guidelines etc. So no issues on what should come first. I think the very first thing Eeshvar wants us to learn, is who created us and whom we should follow. So the very first Mantra teaches us we should follow Eeshvar (whose name is Agni because He burns all impurities and enlightens us).

        It is just like parents teach their children to say Namaste to elders, Eeshvar is teaching what we should think on to get enlightened!.

        This is what I understand till now. Any scholar can help me improve if finds faults in it.

  33. DO NOT VOTE FOR CON-GRESS BECAUSE CON-GRESS IS ENEMY OF HINDUS AND IS ANTI-HINDU. FROM INDEPENDENCE THEY ARE WORKING WITH MUSLIM PARTIES FOR THE ELIMINATION OF HINDUS.

    • Nor congress neither any political party, Hindus are the enemy of themselves. Check out all the historical facts, we are being betrayed by our own people. Others has just exploited the situation, our drawbacks.

    • Zaid Hamid, laal topi waala baloongra!! We At YouTube have a lot of fun ripping apart those Pakistanis who ( as aresult of having contracted this terrible mental disease of delusional thinking that is so ocmmon in the Islamic World), end up posting his videos!!!!

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