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While I have always been critical of his approach and conclusions, I always admired Dr Zakir Naik’s sincerity and loyalty to Muslims. I was impressed by his gigantic efforts in studying thousands of pages of scriptures and selecting verses that could be used to derive whatever crazy interpretations he has derived to prove Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in all world scriptures. I always used to wonder how he could gain all the time and energy to do so despite such a busy schedule of lecturing world around!
But suddenly I came across a book “Muhammad in World Scriptures” by Maulana Abdul Haque Vidyarthi written in 1936. And I was shocked to find that Dr Zakir Naik has done NOTHING MORE THAN simply copying-pasting from this book, mostly word-to-word and cooked up his own ‘original’ research which he uses to claim that he is an expert in ‘Comparative Religion’. This is blatant plagiarization! And that too from a source that his followers consider worse than Kafirs.
So all Dr Zakir Naik has done is copying from works of another person, memorizing those and claiming all the fame for himself! And he did this so blindly that he did not bother even see the background of the original writer or how he has backstabbed his followers in the process.
Because Maulana Adbul Haque Vidyarthi was not an ordinary Muslim.
On contrary, he belonged to a cult which almost the entire Muslim world, and especially the sects which believe in ideology of Dr Zakir Naik considers as non-Muslim. They are in fact banned in Pakistan and many other countries. Ask any Muslim scholar, and he would start hurling abuses on them for disgracing Islam and Muhammad.
Yes, I am referring to the Ahmadiyya or Qadiyani cult. Maulana Abdul Haque Vidyarthi was a disciple of its founder, Mirza Ghulam Ahmed who is considered worse than a Kafir by all Muslims who are fan of Dr Zakir Naik.
The reasons why Muslims hate Ahmadiyyas and refuse to consider them as Muslims are because they hold certain beliefs that no Muslim and follower of Dr Zakir Naik would dare to agree. Some are as follows:
a. Ahmadiyyas believe that Mirza Ghulam Ahmed was a Prophet or Messenger, and this is ‘shirk’ – unpardonable sin as per Muslims
b. Ahmadiyyas believe that Mirza Ghulam Ahmed continued to receive new revelations
c. Ahmadiyyas believe Mirza Ghulam Ahmed to be a Messiah
d. Ahmadiyyas believe that Ram, Krishna, Buddha, Ashoka and Guru Nanak were also Prophets
e. Ahmadiyyas believe that Kalki Avatar would also be the final Prophet
and most importantly, the founder of Ahmadiyya cult is alleged to have hurled abuses and even cursed to Hell those who refused to believe in his prophethood!
The concept of Avtar is a ‘shirk’ as per Islam. All Islamic Madarsa teach books of Maulvi Md Ismail which specifically states that anyone believing in Avtars or further Prophets or Avtars as Prophets is doing ‘shirk’.
Dr Zakir Naik knows all this – that is why in FAQ on Hinduism, he refused to accept that Vedas can be revelations.
But he forgot that the material he has used to write other articles are directly lifted from Maulana Abdul Haque’s writings who agrees that Vedas are revelations. Thus proving Prophet in Vedas or Bhavishya Puran is fine with Ahmadiyyas because that is how they justify prophethood of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad also.
But for all other Muslims, on whose faith popularity of Dr Zakir Naik rests, this is ‘kufra’.
While these writings do not affect Hindus or even Buddhists, Christians etc much, they definitely backstab a devout Muslim, especially when source of reference is not being quoted.
In summary, Dr Zakir Naik is guilty of :
a. Copying directly, even word to word, from works of Maulana Abdul Haque Vidyarthi, an Ahmadiyya without even quoting his references. This is blatant plagiarism.
b. Using his own name instead to falsely proclaim that he is expert on comparative religion
c. Cheating with other Muslims who consider Ahmadiyya and their beliefs to be worse than those of Kafirs
d. Backstabbing his blind followers who quote his works without realizing that Dr Zakir Naik has made them follow ideology of Qadianis/ Ahmadiyyas.
e. Trying to prove Vedas and Puran contain revelations of Muhammad but also refusing to clear admit Vedas as revelations. Thus he has deliberately not made clear whether in reality Dr Zakir Naik is a Qadiyani or not.
Only Dr Zakir Naik knows what is the real truth and what is his true mission. But his backstabbing has left his blind followers nowhere. Either they will have to admit to Ahmadiyya beliefs, which is the complete foundation of his writings and ‘research’ or regret their faith in Dr Zakir Naik being a Muslim.It seems obvious that Dr Zakir Naik is actually a Qadiyani/Ahmadiyya in disguise trying to fool common Muslims. But why does he need to put this disguise? Is it because Ahmadiyyas are persecuted in all Muslim countries? Or is it that he is a spy with some other hidden agenda. Or perhaps, the way he claims to have discovered new researches in Quran that even Allah, Muhammad, Ali et al could not discover, he is laying foundation of his own Prophethood!
And as per Islamic Criminal Law, that Dr Zakir Naik is such a great fan of, he himself can decide what should be the most appropriate punishment for him. Sharia says that a thief’s hands should be chopped off. Hadiths say that one who deserts his faith or community should be killed. This is time to test how sincere are Dr Zakir Naik and Muslims who have followed him so far, to the teachings of their own divine texts.
I am attaching the scan of the book with this post so that everyone can see Dr Zakir Naik’s fraud with his own people themselves. You can download original here.
You can view (not-so) original article(s) of Dr Zakir Naik at IRF website: http://www.irf.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=145&Itemid=128 to compare with the original.
To know more about Qadiyanis, please visit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophethood_%28Ahmadiyya%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmadiyya_Muslim_Community
or any Qadiyani site for that matter.
Addendum:
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Here I provide comparison of work of Dr Zakir Naik and Maulana Vidyarthi, as explained by a Qadiyani Zahid Aziz.
1. Zakir Naik’s article gives various prophecies under four headings. Under the first heading (I) are three prophecies from the book Bhavishya Purana. The first of these is given as follows:
“A malecha (belonging to a foreign country and speaking a foreign language) spiritual teacher will appear with his companions. His name will be Mohammad. Raja (Bhoj), after giving this Maha Dev Arab (of angelic disposition) a bath in the Panchgavya and the Ganga water (i.e. purifying him of all sins), offered him the present of his sincere devotion and showing him all reverence said, I make obeisance to thee. O Ye! The pride of mankind, the dweller in Arabia, Ye have collected a great force to kill the Devil and you yourself have been protected from the malecha opponents.”
This is also the first prophecy in Maulana Abdul Haq Vidyarthi’s book. It is identical with the quotation in Zakir Naik’s article. Except that in the Maulana’s book the word malecha is spelt as malechha, and his quotation has the following extra words at the end: “O Ye! The image of the Most Pious God, the biggest Lord, I am a slave to thee, take me as one lying on thy feet.
2. After quoting the prophecy, Zakir Naik’s article draws out six points from it. The Maulana, after quoting the prophecy, lists ten points. We find that Zakir Naik’s first three points are the same as the Maulana’s first three points, and his points (4), (5) and (6) are the same as numbers (10), (7) and (6) respectively of the Maulana. The wording is also very similar.
For example, point (3) in both begins with the words: Special mention is made of the companions of the Prophet”.
3. Following these six points, there are two further comments in Zakir Naik’s article. The first is in answer to the objection that Raja Bhoj lived in the 11th century C.E. The objection and its answer as given in this article are exactly as in the Maulana’s book, namely, that there was not just one Raja Bhoj. The article says:
The Egyptian Monarchs were called as Pharaoh and the Roman Kings were known as Caesar, similarly the Indian Rajas were given the title of Bhoj.”
while the Maulana’s book has:
Just as the Egyptian monarchs were known as Pharaohs and the Roman kings were called Kaisers, similarly, the Indian rajas were given the epithet of Bhoj
4. The second comment relates to the part of the prophecy about giving the promised one a bath in the Ganges, and the article says:
The Prophet did not physically take a bath in the Panchgavya and the water of Ganges. Since the water of Ganges is considered holy, taking bath in the Ganges is an idiom, which means washing away sins or immunity from all sorts of sins. Here the prophecy implies that Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was sinless, i.e. Maasoom
The same comment is found in the Maulana’s book in the following words:
“Another point which requires elucidation is the Prophet’s taking bath in ‘Panchgavya’ and the water of the Ganges. This did not, of course, actually happen as it was only a vision; so we give it the interpretation that the Prophet will be purged of and made immune from all sorts of sins.”
5. The second prophecy from the book Bhavishya Purana in Zakir Naik’s article is also the second prophecy in the Maulana’s chapter. It begins with the words:
The Malecha have spoiled the well-known land of the Arabs. Arya Dharma is not to be found in the country.
The wording of the entire prophecy (of which about one-tenth is given above) is identical in the article and the book.
6. Following the prophecy, Zakir Naik’s article makes ten points about it, while the Maulana’s book makes twelve points. Naik’s first two points are the same as the Maulana’s first two points. His 3rd to his 10th point are the same as the Maulana’s points (5) to (12), in the same order.
7. The third and final prophecy from the book Bhavishya Purana in Zakir Naik’s article begins as follows:
Corruption and persecution are found in seven sacred cities of Kashi, etc
In the Maulana’s book also, this is the next prophecy, and is given in almost the same words.
8. We now reach the second heading (II) in Zakir Naik’s article. Under this are given three prophecies from the Atharva Veda. In the Maulana’s book also, these are the prophecies that occur next.
Each and every point noted in the article about these prophecies is to be found in the Maulana’s book, in the same order. Below I list the chief aspects of these prophecies as mentioned in Zakir Naik’s article and place in parenthesis the page number in Muhammad in World Scriptures where the same is mentioned:
Kuntap, which is the name of some chapters of the Atharva Veda, stands for Bakkah, a name of Makkah.
The word Narashansah means ‘the praised one’ and refers to the Holy Prophet.
The Holy Prophet is prophesied as the camel-riding rishi.
He is called Mamah Rishi and given certain signs such as a hundred gold coins, ten chaplets, etc.
He is called Rebh, which means the same as the name ‘Ahmad’.
The battle of the Allies of the Holy Prophet’s time is described and the word karo refers to the Holy Prophet.
The conquest of Makka is prophesied and the Holy Prophet is termed as an abandhu, meaning a helpless man.
9. Coming now to the third heading (III) in Zakir Naik’s article, under it one prophecy is briefly mentioned, to the effect that the Sanskrit word sushrava in the Rig Veda applies to the Holy Prophet. The same is in the Maulana’s book.
10. The fourth and final heading in Zakir Naik’s article gives one prophecy, which is from the Sama Veda, and it is translated as follows:
Ahmed acquired from his Lord the knowledge of eternal law. I received light from him just as from the sun.
This prophecy is found in similar words in the Maulana’s book.
11. Zakir Naik’s article then makes three points about this prophecy. The first of these is that the word ‘Ahmad’ here has been read by previous translators not as a name but as Ahm at hi and therefore they translated the mantra as alone have acquired the real wisdom of my father”. These three points under this prophecy are found in the Maulana’s discussion.
12. At this point Zakir Naik’s article comes to an end — and so does the chapter ‘The Prophet in the Hindu Scriptures’ in Maulana Abdul Haq Vidyarthi’s book.
It can be seen that the article by Zakir Naik is nothing at all more than a greatly compressed version of certain parts of the Maulana’s treatment of the subject, following exactly the same order as in the Maulana’s book.
No doubt a later author can make use of the work of an earlier one, but if he benefits substantially from it then integrity requires that he must acknowledge the source.
In this case, the later author has merely repeated the results of the earlier work without any contribution at all by himself, and with no mention of the earlier work.
Do Hindu scriptures contain any Divine revelations?
The research by the Maulana was based on the teaching of Islam that prophets from God had appeared among all nations before the Prophet Muhammad. Muslim scholars had generally limited this to the Israelite prophets and a few others.
Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad revived and laid stress on this unique teaching and concluded from it that the great sacred persons of the Hindu religion must have been true prophets and its scriptures must have been Divine revelations originally. It was on the basis of this belief that the Maulana found prophecies about the Holy Prophet Muhammad in Hindu scriptures. This is why, in explaining the second prophecy given above, the Maulana writes:
The coming prophet will attest the truth of the Aryan faith.
However, Dr Zakir Naik has stated, in a different place, that the Vedas may not be revealed scriptures. Answering the question, whether we can consider the Vedas and the other Hindu Scriptures to be the revelations of God?, he replies:
There is no text in the Quran or Sahih Hadith mentioning the name of the revelation that was sent to India. Since the names of the Vedas or other Hindu scriptures are no where to be found in Quran and Sahih Hadith, one cannot say for sure that they were the revelations of God. They may be the revelation of God or may not be the revelation of God.
If nothing at all in them was revealed by God, then how did prophecies about the advent of the Holy Prophet come to be in these books? If they may not be revelations at all, then it is also possible that the quotations from them given by Dr Zakir Naik may not be prophecies about the Holy Prophet Muhammad revealed by God.
Interestingly, in his article Dr Naik has actually copied the Maulana’s statement above: The coming prophet will attest the truth of the Aryan faith, which means that the Holy Prophet confirmed that those scriptures were originally revealed by God. Perhaps Dr Naik did not realise that this contradicts his own belief expressed elsewhere.
This article is also available in Hindi at http://agniveer.com/2971/naikexposed-hi/
This article is also available in Hindi at http://agniveer.com/2971/naikexposed-hi/
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Can_a_camel's_urine_make_you_healthy_and_beautiful
for Everyone esply for Waqas bhai… regarding the questions raised by our Brothers of Arya Samaaj ( after I read some of your comments and ur blog above ) there are certian thing which we (humna) thinks that are useless here m refering to the few questions raised by you and your friends, things which we can do, but does not seems to be logic. here I can tell you that Human brains cannot think very far or very logical or think what was the reason behind what is been told by Almighty so its better think, think again and again before u conclude anything… I like the research you have done on Quran & Hadith its great but I may only request you to open ur eyes and see the beauty of it.. other wise you will be ther person/people who will regret it at the END.
@syed
brother ask Rehana about the beauty of islam, whose husband was killed in Bani Qureza massacre and who, after seeing her husband beheading, was proposed by the prophet (best man ever born according to many muslims) for marriage and taken away as sex slave when refused to become his wife. There are many more examples which I can give to show beauty of islam.
Brother, better you come to the Vedic Dharma which is the only religion in true sense. Vedic Eeshvar does not wait for any END to give justice, in fact He is continuously doing so.
@syed
1. Brother, i went thru the link, but strangely it never says that camel's urine is useful and as far as that research paper by Dr. Jassam is concerned , medical science doesn't believe in one-off research paper !
2. The research given here reminds me of the research cited by Dr. Zakir Naik of that farmer in USA!!!
3.Strangely,It also expose the contradictory nature of quran!!
4.Why do you undermine yourself, by saying that human mind can't think that far? If those semi-literate mullahs can read and interpret quran, why can't you ????
5. It seems that you are in quest of truth but still a bit bugged by that syndrome, when you write that it will be us who will regret in the END !!!
When Islam was reveled to Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him), slavery was a worldwide common social phenomenon; it was much older than Islam. Slavery was deeply rooted in every society to the extent that it was impossible to imagine a civilized society without slaves.
In spite of this social fact, Islam was the first religion to recognize slavery as a social illness that needed to be addressed. Since slavery was deeply rooted in the society, Islam did not abolish it at once. Rather, Islam treated slavery in the same manner it treated other social illnesses. Islam followed the same methodology of gradual elimination in dealing with this social disease as it did with other social illnesses, for example: the prohibition of alcohol in three steps.
Concerning having slave women, we would like to let you know that it happens to be a practice necessitated by the condition in which early Muslims found themselves vis-a-vis non-Muslims, as both parties engaged in wars. Slave women or milk al-yameen are referred to in the Qur'an as “Those whom your right hand possess” or “ma malakat aymanukum”; they are those taken as captives during conquests and subsequently became slaves, or those who were descendants of slaves.
Thus, it was a war custom in the past to take men and women as captives and then turn them into slaves. Islam did not initiate it, rather, it was something in practice long ago before the advent of Islam. And when Islam came, it tried to eradicate this practice, bit by bit. So it first restricted it to the reciprocal practice of war, in the sense that Muslims took war captives just as the enemies did with Muslims.
But as it aimed at putting an end to such issue, Islam laid down rules which would eventually lead to eradicating the practice. So it allowed Muslims to have intercourse with slave women taken as captives of just and legitimate wars. In so doing, the woman would automatically become free if she got pregnant. What's more, her child would also become free.
Not only that, Islam also ordered a Muslim to treat the slave woman in every respect as if she were his wife. She should be well fed, clothed and given due protection. In the family environment, she had the opportunity to learn about Islam and was free to accept it or reject it. She also had the opportunity to earn her freedom for she could be ransomed.
In the light of the above-mentioned facts, and the nature of the question posed by people, it's clear that some people misunderstand the wisdom behind the permissibility of having female slaves and think that it is meant to unleash men’s desires and give them more enjoyment. Never! That is not the point! It is, rather, means of freeing slaves; and this is clarified above in the fact that if a master got a female slave pregnant, then he could neither sell her nor give her away as a present. And if he died, she would not be considered part of his property. She'd receive her freedom and her baby would also be free.
But, we have to stress that this case should not be confused with that of female servants or maids, for they are free and not slaves. Therefore, it is forbidden to engage in sexual relations with them except through an Islamic marriage.
Slavery has been abolished by international conventions, and goes in line with aims and objectives of Islam, as it has called for centuries ago.
As for marrying slaves, it is something permissible under two conditions: first, if one is unable to pay the dowry of a free woman. Second, if there is fear of committing adultery if one doesn’t get married. This is clarified by the following verse: “And whose is not able to afford to marry free, believing women, let them marry from the believing maids whom your right hands possess. This is for him among you who feareth to commit sin. But to have patience would be better for you.” (An-Nisaa’: 25)
This verse shows that Muslim men should abstain from illicit relations and seek enjoyment through marriage to free women or through their female slaves.
In conclusion, Allah has forbidden certain types of behavior and permitted other kinds of behavior as a safeguard to the individual and to the society. Allah has forbidden fornication and adultery. However, in the case of captives whom your right hands posses, it's something necessitated by the special circumstances which were created when the Muslims were at war"
@muslim
I challenge you to show any verse from Quran which forbids muslims to keep slaves. Slavery has been removed because of the efforts of noble people of all religions and not because of doctrines of islam. muhammad himself kept many sex slaves it means islam justifies slavery. He should have opposed this shameful custom as he was prophet but instead of doing so, he enjoyed it. It proves that muhammad was not a prophet, Quran is not from God, and islam is not for the humanity.
I invite you to Vedic Dharm in which every one has right to meet God through Yog without any mediator.
@GHGH
it doesnt matter how nicely a master treats his female slave, but still having sex with a woman other than your wife shows immorality of a character. This way I can say, suppose you are the caretaker of your entire family including your sisters, mother, and aunts. Will it be right to have sexual relations for your cousins and aunts, even though they are under your property? Islam is pure insanity if it in any way tries to justify slavery. In Vedic Dharma, every woman is suppose to respected as a mother or sister except your wife. See, thats the beauty of the Vedic Dharma, go ask your mother, your sisters, your aunts, and all other females in your family, and give them a choice, which religion would they choose to follow, a religion like islam that may target them as sex slaves, or a pious noble religion like Vedic Dharma/Hinduism where they will be highly respected as mothers and sisters.
Sad part is even fanatic muslim girls who follow zakir bhai mbbs, find female sex slavery applicable and noble.
I would recommend that you reject trash like quran and accept the real noble Vedic Dharma that your ancestors were following.
@VIK
sorry for the late reply was just busy with my personal things anyway you said Ravi Shnakar is more of a geeta fan and you know things by yourself that Geeta contradicts Vedas. You said Hindusim is about diifferent books and you mentioned mahabharta too in mahabharta it clearly mention of killing animal. i laughed when u differentiate ants with animals. Bro in order to have soul one does not need nervous system or blood. if one thing is alive its alive if one thing is not its not. You animals have soul, if thats true then animals who have good souls should not kill animals but you know about the animals who only eat meet. they cant even have 1 gram of grass or vegetable? wat about them . Vedas are difficult to understand hahaha Why God make such a book which would be difficult to understand for people. ?? forget about the sects of muslims, 100 percent muslims believe in the authenticity of Quran and more than 80 percent in book of Hadiths ? i think only 5 to 10 percent Hindus know about Vedas and other are following garbage like Purana Missmurirti Ramayan and Mahabhartha and geeta. If your arya samaj are true scholars of Vedas, why are not they spreading it.
having a conversation between you and aman does not make you right. You and him believe in the same ideology. If that Dumb ass did not know about the format of debate why did he ask Zakir to speak first since he knew that Dr Zakir always speak at 2nd.
@Waqas
welcome back Waqas, good to see you back in this debate. Puranas, Ramayan, Mahabharat, all have been corrupted or adulterated. Only Vedas are still pure and unchanged. Now the rest of the books, its a mixture, Luckily many good scholars were able to separate the interpolations from the good interpretations so that is why we have some book versions out there which are good to read and are truthful. NOw, people like u or zakir have read the wrong ones and they criticize hinduism. Now, it doesnt matter, the reall scriptures for hindus that they must perform their deeds according to are Vedas. Vedas no where states that meat eating is allowed. Even ramayan doesnt have such nonsence im talking about the true version.
Vedas are for professionals ok not some Tom Dick or Harry. That is why people who dont understand they have to rely on brahmins, otherwise, once they start to understand they will interpret Vedas correctly themselves.
Brother, ur quran contains full loads of garbage and yet u follow it. U know and I know, wot kind of sick deeds ur prophet has done yet u follow him. We hindus no need to follow any human like mohammad all we follow is GOD and to attain bliss from him. Brother go read the quran urself, u will see childish things like allah sits on the throne, allah has two hands (I thought he was formless right?), etc. Allah allows sex slavess and 72 virgins in heaven. Brother do u have answers for all this?
@VIK
see today you proved it by yourself that you do have caste system in your religion. Vedas are not for tom dick and harry its only Brahmins LOL . means every hindu is tom dick and harry only Brahmins are superior . I dont think there is anything left in this debate now. Good bye VIK
@amanvik
1.first have that much strength in your circumcised dick to debate with your real name…oops Taqiah!!
2. its beyond your comprehension what does the word brahmin means. but for others who are following this thread , i wud refer them to go to the page, There is No Caste-System in Vedas, instead of writing and explaining it again and again..coz' everybody is not like those semi-literate followers of zakir
@Waqas
Waqas, ur intention of running away from me proves that u lost to me in this debate. There is no caste system in Vedas. Shudra simply means an illiterate and when he starts to study, he can become a brahmin as well. Vedas are for everyone, but it needs motivated readers. Ur quran was written in a childish language that is why even babies can recite it like parrots, but sadly they dont know the meanings of those verses in their. Sadly, at the age of 6 u guys make ur kids recite a stupid book which contains references to sex slaves and 72 hookers in heaven. How will u relpy to ur child when he askes about sex slaves????
Quran……………….revealation……………hahahah grow up muslims please grow up
instead of banging ur head……y dont u ask zakir naik to agree for debate with mahindra pal arya……….then we can talk…….if zakir naik is the best……we will see that in debate……simple is that…..
y ur wasting time of ur and others……
@Arya
I know there is a difference of opinion between different scholars on hazrat Maria(R.A). In Hadith,s it is also not prove that She was not married to Muhammad(SAW). Taking bath from the same pot does not mean intentionally taking bath together.for example, you have a tub at your home and you have a pot to put water on your head and your wife uses the same bath room too means you and and your wife take bath from the same path. Arya you are very good with playing words. Things are written in a different way and you know that by yourself but you intentionally want to take them in an opposite way just to prove Islam is not a religion of God. Bath of Janaba, means bath after doing sex with your wife. Why Muhammad(SAW) explained this to Sahaba s so no 1 can create differences in their minds.Islam is a complete way of living therefor it also discusses the issues of menstruation, sex and other parts of life too so one can lead and live his life according to Islamic way.
You were sayin Dr Zakir never had a debate in a neutral environment . LOl I THINK U have never seen his debates that he did in USA. Dr Ahmed Deedats Debate. He even challenged that ass hole ali sina to debate him in canada but he refused to debate live. The debate he had with Ravi shankar in Banglore, i think you better check by yourself that how many hindus live in this city and how many muslims live in it. what else kind of neutral environment do you need?? If Ravi shankar was not the best person to speak for vedas why dont u speak against him, why dont you go to public to have an arya samaj to debate with Zakir, Cant u arrange just 10 15thousand people in order to make your 70 crore hindus on the right path? if not i think instead of wasting time here on this web site you should bring your own hindu path on the right path first who are following books which contradicts vedas at all
@waqas
I can undrstand your obsession with sri sri ravishankar!! when you hv nothing to say, you come back to that debate. If you can recall, the topic was to show similarities b/w hinduism & islam. and i have told you this innumerable times. fanatic muslims feel threatened by the popularity of sri sri ravishankar among muslims. and this all dialogue-turned-debate was nothing but to provoke him so that he start pointing faults in islam. and zakir could then go to those semi-literate muslims like you and say that sri sri ravishankr is anti-muslim. unfrotunately, zakir's sinister plan failed !!!
and when we have come for a debate in real sense then zakir is shrugging his ass off.
and you always say that why can't we people arrange a big crowd…dude, we challanged him to come to rishi mela in ajmer but….as we know.
moreover, what is the point in exposing him infront of hindus?? we don't consider a THARKI paedophile as a prophet!! we are sensible enough to judge b/w right and wrong!!! we wan't to expose him in front of muslims!! we shall be more than happy if the debate b/w agniveerji & zakir mian takes place amongst muslims so that muslims can reject this falsehood called quran!!
and you didn't reply to my query if your parents would arrange for your killing if you decide to leave their house due to a diff. in opinion..as same is the case given in quran vis-a-vis those who leave islam
THIS IS THE 3rd TIME I AM ASKING YOU THIS!!!!!
@AMAN
i think u didnt read the first of my sentence it was meant only for arya ? why r u coming again n again in others debates. Better talk with VIK and praise each other thats it.
the reason i m not replying to you clearly shows that i dont wanna talk to u. dont you have anything else to do??? by using this kind of language against my religion or Quran what do u want to proof?? just imagine you have a sister or mother at home ? cant i abuse them ? i know you hindus dont have ghairat in you therefor 50 perecent girls are losing their virginity in mumbai when they pass out from school? thats your religion. i can abuse your Vedas and your krishan rama etc too but i wont. you are asking about my parents . i can sacrifice my parents for Islam. I can sacrifice my kids on islam i can sacrifice my brothers and sisters on Islam. got your answer now better stay away from this debate because i am not going to reply u after that
@waqas
There is a beautiful phrase in hindi which is applicable here to you," KHISIYANEE BILLI KHAMBHA NOCHE". lol
1. Don't bring statistics or else it will be very difficult for you to justify the deeds of ur muslim bretheren!!
2. Good to know , though late, that you are ready to sacrifice your parents,siblings and children for those 72 prostitutes…Didn't knew that a man's libodo would take him to such a low level!
3. When you use unconstitutional words its ok and when i reply in the same fashion, you object…..You are a typical disciple of zakir naik..he works on this same theory…muslims should be allowed to worship and build their terror-breeding mosques in secular countries , but the same can't be accorded to non-muslims in muslim countries..afterall allah is ao just..right!
@waqas
Even I am not interested to debate with a guy who has put his brain in his groin
then y were u comin again n again to ask me questions? did i ever interact you or did i ever come to ask u any question? it was u who were coming again n again to ask me questions? and were using filthy language against my religion n quran. i m on this site for over couple of months now show me a single phrase where i abused your vedas???? By Using this language you can only hurt one sentiments you can not convince people to choose hinduism. Muslim s main purpose is to spread Islam n mashah Allah Islam is spreading. Its the fastest growing religion and its the religion where people are converting into it the most . Thats it. Thats what we need.
i am absolutely in sync with you that islam is the fastest growing religion in the world.
Reasons:
1. You breed like cattles, Not like humans.
2. your strategy of womb to womb infection continues…
3. you treat women as farms to produce babies..all the respect that islam can accord to women is – sex-slaves, concubines, being one of the multiple wives, producing babies etc etc
Waqas you are ending up being a very bad looser. Now that Arya has provided you with all the relevent verses which exposes the ills of islam, you all resorting to irrelevent topics…..keep it up..we need people like you on this site so that one can see the real face of islamic followers……
@aMAN
you forget to mention one other reason. i didnt say its fastest growing because of population its fastest in terms of conversion. the videos i m attaching they are made by american Christian media and listen carefully that 20000 americans convert to Islam every year and 15000 approx of them are women. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndi1xqw7wKc&fe…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MBkjtlOJHg&fe…
definitely watch these videos
@waqas
Thanks for pointing it out brother. I just forgot to mention the Taqiah methods used by the likes of zakir to decieve innocents and convert them to Islam!!
hahaha
@Arya
you know thats the beauty of our religion, our books that a dumb person like u can read things and think it in hid own way of mind and can change the direction to anything just in order to make it wrong. You say again n again about arya samaj ? what the fuck hey have done for your religion. they did not even have guts to translate into english and publish on internet so people can read easily or may be VIK is right Vedas are not for tom dick and harry(low caste people) its only for Brahamans so better keep this book to your brahmins only. Quran is for the whole humanity and therefor masha Allah its the fastest growing religion even in india too.
@Waqas
you asked me to show the hadith of bathing from same pot together, I gave. Now you have lost completely and have nothing to say, that is why you have started abusing here. I ask you, what Muhammad has done for humanity except legalizing polygamy, sex slavery, pedophilia, bloodshed….
Anyway, God bless you and may He enlighten our souls with truth.
@Arya
What Muhammad(SAW) has done for this world no has done before neither one will be able to do. for the sake of argument even if i belive they topok bath from the same pot whats the big issue in it. They Were husband and wife. through out this whole debate you have only pointed sex with slaves is your major one. and its just about thinking nothing else. you can not point out a single mistake in Quran +Hadith. and you dont even have courage to put english translation of vedas on net neither that asshole agniveer
Eye opener for every Hindu, Start reciting Shahada With your own Hindu brothers and Sisters http://www.zemtv.net/2010/04/24/15-peoples-accept…
@Waqas
Waqas, showing me 15 fakes reciting fake verses from a fake religion, is not going to help u win the debate over me. U failed to refute all my points. If zakir naik enjoys converting common hindus to islam, then let me tell u this, Arya Samaj is known to convert ur leaders like maulanas and molvis to Vedic Dharma. Brother, if ur leaders are rejecting false hood, then u being a follower should accept Vedic Dharma.
Answer of Polygamy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teJrNacEMfU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShqTxyvvTK8&fe…
watch these videos and you would get your answers
@Waqas
brother waqas, there is a saying that whenever a thief is caught, he says "i am not the thief", now if cops believed him, today every thief would be roaming around stealling things rather than being behind bars. But cops are smart and they look at evidence to prove whether he is a thief or not. Same thing goes with deedat or naik, they know very well their religion is wrong and just like someone who smokes knows smoking is injurous to health and they remain ignorant, similarly naik wont reject islam instead he is using illogical claims to defend a fake religion like islam. Waqas, tell me, will ur sister or mother like polygamy internally, I know the answer is no but u will still say yess. At the same time, islam has good intentions of helping divorcee women, but what is the need to help these women by marriage? U can consider them as sisters tooo and help them. Later, zakir claims there are more females in theis world, that is why polygamy is allowed. Waqas wot census data did zakir look up that from, from the real census there are more males than females, so should he recommend the reverse now?
Waqas, I m still telling u, return to the Vedic Dharma, and satify ur ancestors. U dont have arab blood running in ur veins, u have blood of hindus or vedantists. So please reunite ur blood with its root teachings.
@Waqas
Internally means they really dont like it but they have to accept it in order to not violate Quran. Zakir naik has been proven false if u dont bleev me, look below there is a link of sex ratio in usa and other countries http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by…
brother usa clearly says the ratio is one for ages 15-35
USA, alone has equal number of males to females than how the hell are there 10 million more females than males? from what census did he get this from? anyways i provided u the link, and u will see zakir is caught red handed. As far as his videos go, look at this one where he said there are more females in other countries beside usa as well, brother, if there are gays out there, dont forget there are lesbians out there too, and lesbians outnumber gays so if i were u i would do research before opening my mouth. Brother, Vedas forbid us to kill innocent animals so how can Vedas tell us to kill young females? All hindus who do such acts are sinners in the eyes of GOD, I agree they are evil for killing girls and i myself dont support them. A female baby is considered a devi (pious status of a woman). These hindus kill their daughters because they are poor and dont have money to raise them or give dowry at time of their marriage. And how about ur asshole pakistani muslims, when girls are 5 years of age, if u guys are poor, u guys sell them off to brothels, where they become future prostitutes. These evil hindus give the girls only one final pain, but u muslims plunge ur daughters into endless journey of pains.
Now here is the video in which zakir naik lies about populations: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx9fkSdo_AU
@Waqas
yes, u are right, what mohammad has done, no one has done for this world and no one will ever do. Mohammad legalized pedophillia and sex slavery. Mohammad created exotic desires in fanatic muslims of getting 72 hookers in heaven and running alcohol…wow, jannat is more like a bar, where u have tanks of alcohol and women dancing left right around u, please waqas grow up and leave this stupid religion and return back to ur true Vedic roots. As I said islam is growing due to child birth not conversion. Conversion rate is much smaller compared to the child birth rate. Waqas, before u end up molesting 5 year old babies after being inspired by ur quran, it will be a good idea to reform.
Muslim fanatics simple test will expose your Koran if Koran is right then the DNA of Jews and Muslims should match because Koran claims that Jews and Muslims come from same father Abraham but they are not same so KORAN IS BIG LIE. Brother the people who gave their daughters and woman's to Mughals have converted to Islam mostly the Pakistanis. Most of the cowards Pakistanis were converted like this only they gave their daughter and mother to Afghans and converted to Islam. When Aurangazeb tried to forcefully convert Hindus his Mughals empire were wiped out from India.
This is some good read http://ariseindiaforum.org/islam_tolerance.php?ty…
Dr. Zakir Haramzada Yazeed ke Olad He Sala. Is ke Maan ke Choot peh thook doon Jahan se ye harame nikla he.
what muslims do not understand is that they are just plain big time LIARS. they quote Hindu scriptures in support of Mo's prophethood and then say these are not revelations of god. atleast humans are not capable of giving such accurate prophecy.
the reality is that muslims are desperate to hide the vulgarity and criminality which Mo indulged during his life.
@Raja
very well said brother, people like zakir are easily caught with contradictions here. For example, zakir makes up stupid claims saying mohammad in Vedas, and then he says Vedas may not be the word of GOD, I mean, if according to zakir naik, mohammad is accurately described in Vedas, why does he refuse to admit Vedas being divine? See this is an obvious contradiction, people can only laugh at this. The truth Vedas never speak of mohammad and never will because Vedas never prophecize nor they contain history. Another fact is that zakir naik is an idiot.
i would like to reply jackas, waqas whatever
first of all its been told several times that caste is not varna.
but u wont digest that. why will u ?
that being said,
i would like to ask a question.
do u promote sc/st quota system? as in would u like to operated upon by a dr. who doesn't know shit but
somehow gets the degree ?
so thats all ur answers there. a brahmin should never be taught by a shudra.
just like idiots should not be debated with.
they only bring u down to their level and defeat u their, as ur down to their
level and they have more practice on that level.
and to my sanatan dharmi bros i would like to say:
after the mughal attack and forced conversions, alot of people wanted to convert back to hinduism.
but shankaracharya didn't agree to it. can u tell me why ?
if we believe in karmas, we know birth is also decided by that.
do u really think u can reason people like that?
their samskaras will stop them their. if u give anyone knowledge. if they dont deserve it they will spit on u for that. thats what manas is. the cosmic mind looks after everything. thats gods security.
u need not break ur heads on who is saying what.
gita says: no one is capable of giving pain or pleasure to anyone else. its their own karmas.
be happy and content and work on yourselves. thats where the focus should be ! ! !
ardhajal gagri chalkat jaye.
therefore a shudra ( a small person, who cant think big, for everyone )
his only hope towards enlightenment is to serve someone who knows more.
unless the varnas are pure, the shudra will feel ashamed of serving and want things he doesn't deserve.
vaishya will exploit people in the markets, ksahtriyas will fear his life and wont go for war for his people.
a ksahtriya puts his life for his people hence he has a higher place. a small person is called small ( kshudra )
cause he wont do so. why there are sc/st quotas everywhere but not in the army ?
above all, a learned personm a brahmin who masters his mind, brain should be above all.
he alone knows the patterns of nature and give us what we want.
thats the context,
thank you,
jai hind, jai bharat
btw. this war is not between hindus/mulims/jews/chris.
this war is between the light and no light, ie dark
therefor surya – sura and asura meaning no light. all light is knowledge
asuras fakes to be the one as they cant create another. so they lie. out of their ignorance.
anyone who says OMmm 9 x _ (1, 2, 3, …) times in brahmamuhurta (4 am to 6 am)
knows what an "infinite beam of light " is. thats what a shivlinga is.
inside our own spines. the asuras can never take that out. they can never break this temple.
truth alone has all the powers.
hari om
when a true genius appears in this world, you may know him by the sign that the dunces are all in confederacy against him.
JonathanSwift
This proverb is dedicated to zakir naik
Hi,
My name is Anubha Gaur.
you said
“I was shocked to find that Dr Zakir Naik has done NOTHING MORE THAN simply copying-pasting from Maulana Abdul Haque Vidyarthi’s book, ”
why were you shock,….i have seen his vedios before giving lectures he had already mentioned that it is not his study
…its fine atleast he is transfering his knowledge..doing noble work for humanity……and above all he always give REFERENCE while delivering his lectures…… bcoze i have alredy done cross checked his REFERENCES….
you said,
“he refused to accept that Vedas can be revelations.”
have you really gone through his vedios…I DOUBT….. bcoze I have seen his vedios were he has clearly mentioned that that VEDAS are WORDS OF GOD…..
please go thrugh the vedios once again……
are you against MUSLIMS or against Zakir Naik ?????
you need not meet him personaly ….bzce you can get your answers just by watching his vedios …
Namaste
1. We were shocked because he has never ever acknowledged that he is taking material word-by-word from a Qadiyani book. He cannot do so because as per his ideology, he cannot claim that Ram/ Krishna etc were also prophets, as Qadiyanis say.
2. Zakir Naik is a doctor and he should clearly known that if he copy-pastes so significantly from any book, he should acknowledge the author. Or else it is called plagiarism. But if he mentions Qadiyani source, his Al Qaeda group may thrash him.
3. Zakir in his videos claims to be expert in comparative religion. But he has produced no material except these copy-paste from Qadiyani book in comparative religion. He hardly knows Urdu or Sanskrit, and thus should not claim expertise in comparative religions.
4. Please refer to his IRF website, He clearly says that he is not sure whether Vedas are revelations or not. Though he proves Muhammad in Vedas, he still says so because both articles had different sources of copy-pasting. If indeed he is convinced that Vedas predict Muhammad, then he should clearly proclaim that Vedas contain revelations and are divine books. But if he does so, it would be against his brand of Islam.
5. We have watched his videos and are convinced that only semi-literate foolish people can fall in their trap. We are also convinced that he is disgrace in name of humanity, forget about he doing anything good. Reasons are clear:
– he claims that only Muslims will go to heaven and all others would burn in hell forever.
– he claims that Muslims should be allowed to build mosques in non-Muslim countries but non-Muslims should be banned from building temple/churches in Muslim countries
– he supports Osama Bin Laden. He says he doesn’t know if he is actually a terrorist. But he calls America terrorist. Does he have special intelligence report to call America terrorist but not Osama? Why doesnt he adopt same standards for osama and America, even if he hates america.
– His references are correct but interpretations are wrong and stupid. He deliberately quotes from anti-Hindu books. Similarly he deliberately quotes wrong interpretations from Quran.
– He justifies polygamy and animal killing on most stupid and false reasons and wrong facts. Refer articles here.
– Most young terrorists consider him role model.
– He falsely publicized that he defeated Ravi Shankar in debate. But he refuses to debate Arya Samaj for obvious reasons.
Its a matter of grief that so-called broadminded Hindus today know nothing about their foundation, and in garb of secularism tend to promote falsehood from outside. Ignorance coupled with inferiority complex is the sure-shot recipe for doom of any society.
Agniveer
Not dream fight with Dr Zakir Naik. He is goodest Islamic scholar and comparitive religion. He is knowing your vedas and puranas more then you fool hindus. HE IS NOT TALK WITH ANY TOM DIC HERI. Fear Allah and stop all this. You not nowing the fire of hell wait for you.
@Aadil,
i know the Quran more than ur zakir naik, tell him to come debate me!!!!!
Anubha Gaur is a dumb hindu trying to proving of the vedas is best then quran. InshaAllah we muslims not need you kafir to praising Dr Zakir Naik. Not fool people that Vedas are divine. Mashaallah Allah have gives us Quran and Vedas are no divine but crap. And wait some times, time is come when we muslims again overtake you and India becoming Islam Alahamdulillah. Than you will knowing what is veda and what is quran.
Either convert to islam if you loving Dr Zakir Naik or remain in shit hindu dharam.
@Aadil
looks like u havent read ur Quran, otherwise if u had, u would know the example and the definition of crap. All u musllims know is to take over other countries, but dont think we are still nice as we used to in the past, today, even if u think of taking over india or vedic dharma, we willl destroy u the same way we destroyed ur moghal emperors, and then we will take ur lands and donate them to charity.
AADIL YOUR ZAKIR NAIK HAS HIMSELF ADMITTED THE GREATNESS OF VEDAS INDIRECTLY. He said that allah name is in Vedas. One of the names of INDRA AND MOON GOD IS ALA in vedas which can be pronounced as allah. SO ALLAH IS SMALL VEDIC GOD LORD INDRA OR MOON GOD
ALSO GREAT PSYCHOLOGIST CG JUNG HAS EXPOSED JEHOVAH/ALLAH’S TRUE NATURE. According to Jung Jehovah/Allah is non other than ROMAN GOD JUPITER/JOVE, whose Greek counterpart is ZEUS AND INDIAN COUNTERPART IS LORD INDRA. So According to CG JUNG AND MANY OTHER IMMINENT HISTORIANS AND PSYCHOLOGIST ALLAH/JEHOVAH IS LORD INDRA A SMALL VEDIC GOD. “SO VEDA IS THE ONLY TRUE SOURCE” SEE THIS WEBSITE FOR REFERENCE:
http://seatofgod.com/jupiterbiblicalastrologicalaspects/id21.html
http://jesus-messiah.com/html/jove.html
SO ZAKIR NAIK HAS HIMSELF ACCEPTED THE GREATNESS OF VEDAS.
AADIL YOUR ZAKIR NAIK HAS HIMSELF ADMITTED THE GREATNESS OF VEDAS INDIRECTLY.
He said that allah name is in Vedas. One of the names of INDRA AND MOON GOD IS ALA in vedas which can be pronounced as allah. SO ALLAH IS SMALL VEDIC GOD LORD INDRA OR MOON GOD
ALSO GREAT PSYCHOLOGIST CG JUNG HAS EXPOSED JEHOVAH/ALLAH’S TRUE NATURE. According to Jung Jehovah/Allah is non other than ROMAN GOD JUPITER/JOVE, whose Greek counterpart is ZEUS AND INDIAN COUNTERPART IS LORD INDRA. So According to CG JUNG AND MANY OTHER IMMINENT HISTORIANS AND PSYCHOLOGIST ALLAH/JEHOVAH IS LORD INDRA A SMALL VEDIC GOD. “SO VEDA IS THE ONLY TRUE SOURCE” SEE THIS WEBSITE FOR REFERENCE:
http://seatofgod.com/jupiterbiblicalastrologicalaspects/id21.html
http://jesus-messiah.com/html/jove.html
SO YOUR ZAKIR NAIK HAS HIMSELF ACCEPTED THE GREATNESS OF VEDAS AND EXPOSED THAT ALLAH IS SMALL VEDIC GOD INDRA AND NOT A SUPREME GOD.
Your evil intentions are well too known, Aadil, but this time round u will meet with a tougher and determined resistance, so do not expect any cakewalk this time round. By the way, ur quran and hadees are nothing but a compilation of all things brutish and grotesque. So, who are u convincing anyways here? And Anubha, Aadil has rightly described u as a dumb hindu. Zakir Naik has never accepted vedas as the word of God, go through his videos once again. His exact words are, “They may be, but I am not sure.” Please crosscheck once more. And he doing noble for humanity, now u shock me. In what ways, if u could elaborate? He is hellbent on proving that islam is the only way to salvation for the whole of humanity, and he is very cunningly silent on the voices of dissent that have come to fore in the form of Agniveer and FaithFreedom.
@adil
Quote,”And wait some times, time is come when we muslims again overtake you and India becoming Islam Alahamdulillah. Than you will knowing what is veda and what is quran.” Unquote
Well,,,, well,,, well,,,, now you showed your REAL intention. Then why do yu scream blue murder when we retaliate against muslims in kashmir or gujarat or mumbai? Tell me why shouldnt we hate you and fight back?
You conna take over INDIA?? A NUCLEAR SUPERPOWER. Oh my god, oh my false god allah, I am laughing my ass out. This is not 16th century, this is 21st century, we are united, we dont believe in turning the other cheek, and we hindus can fight back. Try us coward. HAHAHAHAHA
By STEVE, on July 22nd, 2010
Agniveer’s website is full of hatred and depicts his evil motives of spreading hate. He is brain-washed by day dreaming of 16108 wives as his God Krishna had ( one can visit the article on this topic here http://truthofhinduism.com/general/sexy-historical-stories-of-krishna/ ). Indeed when one reads his articles , any person who has been visiting anti-islamics websites would forthwith come to know that agniveer imitates from those sites, than makes up his own articles & paste them at his website. He of himself can do nothing, he is arrogant, chesty & full of himself.
When I visited his article The Quran and the Shape of the Earth, he of himself has written nothing there. There is just a link to a article written by a christian missionary Sam Shamoun. So basically Sam is a christian who believes in the bible. Now one may observe that agniveer has several articles against Christianity, if agniveer is against christianity so much than why is he relying on articles written by christians. Those same missionaries have also written articles on women in Hinduism , will agniveer also consent on these articles. Probably no , than why Agniveer is playing double standards here.
Agniveer has no basic knowledge of Islam and it’s history, he simply learns the basic of Islam from those people who are Islamophobic by Nature. They indeed will write mendacious & untrue things.
I came across one more article on agniveer which has a photo of a muslim women in burqa who is hanged. I searched the anti-islamic websites, the same photo with same idea of the artilcle was present on a anti-islamic website. Agniveer simply read it and changed the sentences , & wrote a article claiming to be his own. This simply shows his foolishness & idioticness, he can never learn.
When you will visit these articles : Does the Quran mention the speed of light, Samples of Quranic (koran) Contradictions and Flaws by Syed Kamran Mirza & Refuting Zakir Naik’s claim of Science in Quran you will notice the same foolishness of agniveer. These all articles are written by Christians whom agniveer thinks are authentic & reliable if written against Islam. But if same authors will write against Hinduism, they are wrong & arrogant in the eyes of agniveer. He is posting articles of christians to whom he repudiates, and does not believe in their faith.
In simple words this is called stupidity & double standards, Agniveer can traverse to any limit to accomplish & execute his evil & dirty motives of spreading hate & detest. He is ignorant in Islamic knowledge who just wants a name on the internet.
I just had a look on the verses of Vedas which Zakir Naik told and the translations by Griffith …
I found that each and every word Zakir Naik told was from the Griffith’s translation…
So, he is trying to show Islam as superior…It isn’t possible that he doesn’t know the history of India, so he may be thinking that those are the correct translations…
Griffith’s translations are totally fake…So basically what he does is, pick up those translations from the fake Vedas and convert Hindus to Islam as many as possible…and the fools go and sit there and clap on whatever he says…!!!!
Narayana Guru challenged Brahmins & launched Kerala social revolution
DR.M.S. JAYAPRAKASH, PROF. OF HISTORY, GURUVIHAR, PUNNATHALA, KOLLAM DT. – 691 012
Revolution begins when a set of people who are socially, politically and economically oppressed and exploited get themselves enlightened for their own emancipation. Such a movement should be able to change the existing social order and create a new world. Fundamental social changes always come from the decision of the oppressed. Such a change came from Kerala under the leadership of Ezhavas. The Ezhavas along with other communities shared the same cultural identity until the emergence of Brahminism around the 8th century AD. This was facilitated by Budhism that prevailed in Kerala for about 1,200 years. The extermination of Budhism by the Brahmins under the leadership of Adi Sankara ushered in a new era of tyrannical rule and Kerala became a “lunatic asylum” (as called by Vivekananda). The historical background of the Brahminical revival under Sankara’s leadership was that of inhuman cultural torture of the Budhists. In Sudraka’s Mrichakhadiva, we get the description of treating the Budhists as bullocks by passing a nose string through their noses and yoking them to the cart. The Keralopathi documents the extermination of Budhists by Sankara. Vivekananda says:
“And such was the heart of Sankara that he burnt to death lots of Budhist monks by defeating them in argument. What can you call such an action on Sankara’s part except fanaticism?”
NAIRS AS BRAHMIN STOOGES
The story of Parasuram’s axe and Sankara’s Digvijaya were the root cause of the extirpation of Budhism from Kerala. Those kings and their associates who identified themselves with the Brahmins became Kshatriyas and Nairs. Those who refused became outcasts. Among these groups Ezhavas held a unique position. Unlike the other outcastes, they were a land-holding group and they held the highest social status among the outcastes. Historically, the Ezhavas held to the Budhist traditions such as learning Sanskrit, practising Ayur Vidya medicine, taking tolerant attitude towards other ethnic groups, and rational thinking. The establishment of Brahminism brought structural changes in the economic system, mainly affecting land tenure and management of temples. The land was divided into Brahmaswams and Dewaswams and thus brought under the Brahmin-Nair ownership. The Ezhavas were the worst affected as their chief occupation was farming. They were largely left to tend the coconuts on the land, and even then, a large number of them became tenants of the upper castes. When access to land became more difficult, some Ezhavas turned to toddy-tapping and handicrafts for survival. The position of the Ezhavas as a deprived class, their Budhist heritage, their numerical strength and their position between the upper and lower stratas of the society made them the vanguards of social revolution under Sree Narayana Guru, the revolutionary saint.
The politics of the revolution envisaged by the Guru was unique and significant. While the spiritual leadership of Sankara was based on anti-human thoughts, Narayana Guru invoked his own spiritual philosophy to counter it. Sankara wanted to encourage and enforce Brahmin hegemony purely on caste-based exploitation of the masses, which Narayana Guru with his silent revolutionary methods fought and succeeded.
The Guru used spirituality to fight spirituality.
SEX LITERATURE
The part played by the medieval feudal literary works to streamline obeisance to Brahminism was decisive. The duty of literature to society was to carry out this objective and nothing else. Ezhuthachan’s Adhyatma Ramayanam, Cherussery’s Krishnagadha and the sensual literature of scholars like the Venmony poets are examples in this respect. Whereas what we see in Narayana Guru’s literary works is just the opposite of the above feudal literature.
In fact, progressive movements in Malayalam literature originated from Narayana Guru which also reflected in poet Kumaran Asan’s clear-cut admonitions of the society.
The Guru’s social revolution includes literature to counter literature just like spirituality to fight spirituality.
S.N.D.P. YOGAM
The medieval feudal society in Kerala was caste centered. Human beings were divided into upper castes and lower castes and they were ruled on the basis of religious belief and submission to the Brahmins. Elementary human rights were denied to the lower caste people. Such was the politics of the Brahminical social order of the day. It was to fight this political tyranny that the Guru advocated the downtrodden masses to be free through education and be strong through organisation. This was achieved through the establishment of the SNDP Yogam (Sree Narayana Dharma Paripalana Yogam). The historic social reform movements and the political agitations led by the Yogam paved the way for a new political order which enabled the depressed classes to share power with the ruling class.
Ezhava leaders like Dr. Palpu, Kumaran Asan, T.K. Madhavan, C. Kesavan, Sahodharan Ayyappan, C.V. Kunjuraman, and the leaders of other communities like Ayyankali and Pandit Karuppan were the stalwarts of these political agitations.
The liberation movement of Narayana Guru started in the year 1888 at Aruvippuram, near Thiruvananthapupram, with the revolutionary act of consecrating a Sivalingam (the phallus). A non-Brahmin, a so-called Untouchable, consecrating the Sivalingam was a bold revolutionary deed. This premeditated challenge to the Brahmin privilege produced far-reaching consequences. Till then, the Brahmin priests were claimed to be direct representatives of gods on earth.
DESTROY BRAHMIN HEGEMONY
He built several temples and caused many existing ones to be remodelled. In one temple, a lighted lamp was installed. In another, the mirror was the idol. All his idol installations were against the Brahminical rules and vedic rituals. Being an Advaitavadi, his idol installations were a bold step to break the idols. In other words, the icons he installed made him an iconoclast. No doubt he destroyed the icons of many an old belief and rotten tradition.
The Guru correctly understood that the Brahmin hegemony should be destroyed along with the caste system and then only could the actual revolution be realised in the Indian context. He believed that the caste system was pure human rights violation. Basic amenities like food, clothes, housing, and education were all denied to a vast majority of the masses on account of caste inhibitions. Even decent words of the language were not allowed to be pronounced by the low caste people. He also realised that the caste rules had a theoretical base sanctioned by Hindu “holy scriptures”. Hence his attacks on the caste system aimed at two things. (1) On the one hand, his aim was to blow up the theoretical basis of the caste system, and on the other (2) to organise a people’s war against the existing socio-political order.
DANGER SIGNALS TO HINDUS
The first he accomplished through his literary works and the consecration of the idol, and the second through education and enlightenment. The Guru’s famous dictum, “Ask not, say not, think not of caste” was a direct ultimatum to the custodians of casteism. The declaration as well as his message, “One caste, one religion and one god for man”, were danger signals for the Hindu orthodoxy and the Brahminical Social Order. Thus he denounced the theory of the caste system heralded by the Bhaghavad Gita and propounded by Sankara.
He advised the people to build educational institutions adjacent to the temples. It is significant to note that in due course, he discouraged the construction of more and more temples and the consecration of idols.
To him temples and idols were tools for bringing together the down-trodden masses, leading them to the path of liberation. He even went to the extent of asking, “What is the use of these temples which are filled with darkness and the foul smell of bats?” Such was the rational thinking he discharged and propagated through his disciples. As a great humanist, he proclaimed”. “To help neighbourhood to thrive, the wise man strives hard”. Such messages enlightened the masses and made them strive for bettering themselves.
BLEND OF SPLIRITUALISM & MATERIALISM
Not only literacy and enlightenement but agriculture, commerce, industrial training, science and technology, were on the agenda of the Guru’s scheme of education. He insisted on people to reorganise the traditional trade and commerce on a scientific basis. He preached economic discipline and warned against wasteful expenditure. Thus we see in the Guru a Sanyasin tradition based on a harmonious blending of spiritualism with enlightened materialism, a coexistence of Dharma of the Orient with the science and humanism of the Occident.
The crux of his philosophy was the evolvement of the social potency of the self. Non-dualism (Advaita) conceives of the ultimate identification of the Jeevatma with the Paramatma. The Guru also accepted Advaita but he bestowed more thought on the Atma or self. Its full-blown efflorescence admits of two vital possibilities. One is the perfection of the individual self. The other is the impact this perfection is capable of causing in others, in the society at large. This is, in short, the social potency of the self. In other words, the social implication of an individual’s being and becoming. In Hinduism, under the Brahminical Social Order, a calculated attempt was made to keep spiritual and material goals apart. To the priestly class, it was a lucrative source of economic exploitation.
The Guru bridged this gap. By holding together the twin capabilities of the self, he proved the complementary nature of man’s individual and social urges. This philosophy of the Guru may be termed Atmadarsanam. The Guru’s famous philosophical poem, “Atmopadesa Satakam” (one hundred verses of self-instruction), clearly elucidates his Atmadarsnam. Another poem, Darsanamala (garland of vision), covers the same aspect from a different angle. The two together form his philosophic edifice.
PULAYAS PRODUCED AYYANKALI
The revolutionary spirit instilled by the Guru, in the first instance electrified the Ezhava community, the community which produced the great Guru. Gradually, it attracted other communities and brought about a total revolution. Following his footsteps, every community started purging the foul customs and practices. When the spark kindled fell upon other communities, it produced reformers, revolutionaries and institutions.
SILVER STAR
In the Pulaya (Untouchable) community, it appeared in the form of Ayyankali and his Sadhujana Paripalana Yogam while in the Araya community it came into being through Pandit Karuppan and his Araya Vamsodharani Sabha. In the Nair community, through Mannath Padmanabham and his Nair Service Society, and in the Namboothiri community through V.T. Bhattathiripad and Yogakshema Sabha.
Nowhere in India so vast and great a revolution has occurred. That is why Sri Narayana Guru remains as he silver star of the Indian revolution.
That this revolutionary movement was confined within the bounds of Kerala on account of the special and peculiar needs of this State, made it almost an indoor affair.
But judging from the impact it produced on the people, this great historical process has revolutionised the life of a large number of people than the combined forces of Brahmo Samaj, Arya Samaj, Prathana Samaj and other organsiations could effect on the people all over India.
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THE GOD’S OWN COUNTRY MADE DEVIL’S DUNGEON
Kerala, called the “god’s own country”, has become the devil’s dungeon despite the red-hot marxist rule. In our article, “How to liberate Kerala from upper caste imperialism?” (DV Feb.1, 2007 p.8), we said Kerala is today ruled by a micro-minority of three small communities — Brahmin, Nair and Syrian Christian — comprising a mere 17% of the state population.
We also said these three communities were made rulers of the state by a counter-revolution led by a great Brahmin leader, E.M.S. Namboodiripad, against the powerful revolution led by Sree Narayana Guru.
In this article, the author, Kerala’s top-most Ezhava (to which Sree Narayana belonged) intellectual speaks of the real revolution. In the next article he will write on the EMS counter-revolution — EDITOR.
http://www.dalitvoice.org/Templates/march2007/articles.htm
@Steve
So much pains taken to cut and paste. wasted so much space. one thing is confirmed. you dont have any first hand knowledge of anything. at the most you can bark like a stray dog. that is what you are doing here by just copying and pasting. this amounts to SPAMMING.
Its true Sree Narayana Guru challenged brahmins and paved way for the biggest social revolution India had ever seen. He was a practical man. His social revolution is no different from swami dayanand saraswati’s. Sree narayana guru was a staunch advaitavadi. if one reads his works one can understand what he stood for. I am yet to see from where this author got the notion that Sree Narayana Guru criticising Bhagavadgita on caste system. Mis-interpreting Sree Narayana Guru on all occassion is the favorite passtime for – Christians, Muslims, Communist parties, and Congress party. Even some of the so called historians (left leaning) have twisted facts about Sree Narayana Guru. All these are done deliberately to help the christian and muslims because SNDP Yogam as in the recent past has accused the christian and muslim community of fraudulently hijacking government schemes meant for poor hindus with active collaboration of communist and congress parties.
Upper caste in kerala today do not consist of brahmins. the ruling combine in kerala is favourable to Muslims and Christians. Just take a look at the way these two communities have cornered most of the educational institutions through corrupt practices.
Atmopadeshashatakam and darshanamala – both these works are in agreement with Vedic view.
During his life time, Sree Narayana Guru worked for the upliftment of Hindus, especially the downtrodden ones from all communities – irrespective of caste. He never thought of disintegrating the Sanathana Dharma. He never thought it fit to convert the suffering masses to either christianity or islam as he was aware of the bigger rot present in these two religions.
One of the most celebrated christian missionary of early 1900s, Rev. C.F.Andrews said he “saw god on earth for the first time”, when he met Sree Narayana Guru. He wrote this to his friend, Romain Rolland who was another great admirer of the Guru. What does CF Andrews’s statement point at? Jesus is fake, christianity is just a rotten, parasitic political, communal organization.
Sree Naryana Guru and ChattambiSwamikal were instrumental in arresting the growth of christianity and islam in kerala. Hindus should be grateful to these two visionaries who had the guts to take on the orthodoxy within the community and lead the masses to truth, that is Sanatan Dharma. They took Vedas to the masses, just as the Rishis of the Vedas did.
Ezhavas are numerically bigger, but due to their left leaning habit, them have shot in their own leg. Today many writers simply parrot Guru’s words without even knowing in what context he said those. They misinterpret because it gives them a few pennies more into their bank account.
EMS has NO contribution to kerala other than creating COMMUNALISM. Yes, I said “communalism,” in what way communalism different from communism. by creating malappuram district exclusively for muslims, he laid the foundation for future jehadi and separatist movement in kerala. we are seeing the results of it today.
Bhavabhuti in his Mahaviracharita gives a clear vivid evidence
of purda. When Rama sees Parasurama coming towards him, he
directs his consort Sita, `Dear one, he is our elder,
therefore turn aside and veil yourself’ [ Mvir.Ch. Act II,
p.71 ] [ 1200, p.70 ]
The Kalibhana grant also tells us that the women of the royal
household observed purda in Orissa [ 1200, p.70 ] [ In.H.Qu.
XX (1944) p.242 ]
Vachaspati tells us that women of good families did not come
without a veil in public [ Vach. ] [ 1200, p.70 ].
Some women were so much devoted to their husbands that they
would not even look at the Sun regarding him as a parapurusa.
If the servants were found seeing the faces of queens, they
feared punishment. [ Sis. XII.20.17 ] [ 1200 p.70 ].
The free mixing of men and women was considered bad in
Sriharsha’s works [ Nais.Ch. XV.3 ] [ 1200, p.70 ].
`Harsha’s [1099-1101 ] [Lohara dynasty] coins [depict] a half
cross-legged goddess [and ] a veil appears on the head ‘ — [
Coin.39]
From “Veiling of Women in The Brahmanic Religion”
by Thanabalu Kalimuthu, courtesy Prof. D.N. Jha
—
Mukul Dube
D-504 Purvasha Anand Lok .. Mayur Vihar 1
@steve
Good one steve. So, now when you had nothing to say on islam and as to why zakir copy-pasted from a qadiyani book, You are now copy-pasting from D. N Jha’s book. Thanks for exposing this communist pervert – D.N.Jha. This (commmunist) historian has done nothing but copy-pasted from western indologists work, be it the aryan invasion theory or regarding the idiotic translations to prove beef in the vedas..
Good Steve! Thanks for exposing them
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it for the first time. Anybody reading this book with an unbiased mind will certainly
agree with the facts and figures given in this booklet. Since I didnt believe this book
as it is at first. I asked for the video cassettes and books mentioned at the end. To my
great surprise, as a Hindu, I dont know what to write further. Whenever anything is
written on Hinduism, it is hidden from the public because of the power and media
they have.
The ruling master race of India has done unbelievable damages to India, which no
sincere Indian will ever condone. How they position the young Indian minds with
hatred through their powerful media? Finally who gains at the end? The only master
race. How they divide India? To name a few: RSS and its allies with full fledged military
type of training to murder another Indian who is the real son of the soil!
Untouchability, apartheid and caste system to divide India into pieces! As a result they
are in power since independence!
In literacy, wealth, political power, control of the media and more, they have proved
they are the master race (Now we know why they have kicked out the British!)
What have their books and religions taught us? How many Gods have we? Who are
our Gods? Can you believe Ramayana & Mahabaratha? What are they telling about
our Godly men viz. Rama, Sita, Shiva Parvathi, Brahma, Ganesh & Krishna? Can one
not see the pornography and incest in them? I would not read it to my mother,
daughter or sister! Can you? What if a foreigner asks us what is Lingam and Yoni? How
about Shankaracharya, Rajaneesh, Sai Baba, Maharishis, Dhirendra Brahmachari and
Proof Chinmayananda? What are our Puranas and Veda telling? Our claims about
Viboothi, sun worshiping, urine drinking and other blind faiths tell us how ignorant
we are. How do we treat our Indian women? But we laugh at the treatment of women
in other religions. What hypocrites we are? How dare a rich go inside the temple with
special respect even if he is anillicit liquor dealer or smuggler while thousands of
people are waiting in the queue?
Also religion is a man to God and man to man relationship. But to reach God,
treating the! Fellow human beings with love, justice and equal right is the best way.
Most of the religions are preaching the same way.
Unfortunately only Hinduism which was originated by the Brahmins is preaching that
to reach God you must not love your fellow human being, you should not treat him
with justice and you should not treat him with equal rights and humanity. On the
other hand it teaches the high caste Brahmin how to enslave him, cheat him and fool
him in the name of Hinduism. With this technique only today 2% Brahmins are ruling
89% of Indias population.
Do you think the master race will change itself? Impossible. Why? Because they will
break into pieces if YOU know the real truth! You and I cannot change our
MOTHERLAND overnight But let us do something that we can.
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We love India our Homeland and have no hatred against any one. We want to be
friendly with every one. As and Indian we want to help and save our MOTHIERINDIA
from its troubles and to promote peaceful harmony among its peace loving citizens.
Bearing that in mind this book has been written. All humanity is the creation of God
and a God will not do any discrimination to his creations such as white, black, high,
low, rich, poor and so on. God will be always with the right principles and naturally
wont support the aggressor over the weaker. Also God will always sympathize with
the victim who has been punished for no reason. No man can reach God by harming,
enslaving, fooling and cheating other fellow human in the name of religion. DO YOU
AGREE TO TI-US? IF SO JUDGE FOR YOURSELF WHETHER THE FOLLOWING CLAIMS ARE
TRUE OR FALSE?
The purpose of this book is not to attack any religion. But we flied to expose the
betrayal of truth and treachery to human dignity in the name of religion.
There are many religions in India. Followers of each religion should respect other
faiths. Regrettably, the higher caste Brahmins who sowed the seeds of hatred in the
minds of Hindu against other faiths, have created a lot of problems disturbing the
peaceful lives not only of Christians and Muslims, but of the own low-caste Hindu
brethren.
On the other hand, the Hindus, particularly the Brahmins who are behind communal
disturbances in India affecting lower caste Hindus, Christians and Muslims are
perhaps not aware of the fact that their Hindu brethren are all receiving kindness and
hospitality in theChristian West and Muslim Middle East.
The Brahmins and Rashtriya Swayam Sewak Sangh (R.S.S.) claim that 600 churches
(including Mandaikkadu, Neelakkal) and 500 mosques (including Babri Masjid) were
once Hindu temples is quite untrue.
Brahmins/RSS criticize other religions without first having examined their own
religion. Hence we are FORCED to write this booklet with the intention of bringing
some facts about the Brahmins/R.S.S. to light.
Let us analyze and see whether the Brahminism (Hinduism) satisfies the human nature
and whether it is based on justice, love, humanity and equal rights.
FUTURE SHOCK!
My dear fellow citizen of India. I am sure when you complete this small booklet, you
will get not only a great surprise but also SHOCK because of the unassailable
evidences that we have gathered and given to you from the Brahmin originated Holy
books.
OPEN CHALLENGE
WE INVITE BRAHMINS TO CHHALLENGE THE CONTENTS OF THIS BOOK IN PUBLIC OR IN
THE NEWS PAPER OR ANY MEDIA THEY FEEL CONVENIENT. IF WE HAVE NOT HEARD
ANY COMMENTS ON THIS BOOK. THEN THE READER WILL KNOW THE TRUTH.
ARE YOU A HINDU?
If you say YES , then
Have you ever really read the Vedas, Upanishads, Smritis and Puranas (Ramayana and
Mahabharata)?
Your answer most probably will be: NO .
A recent Delhi University survey says not even ONE in a THOUSAND has ever read any
of these books. If any Hindu ever reads them, he will never be an enemy to any other
religion. Remember, this is a FACT.
Hindu mentality is such, that it usually acceptsanything without questioning its
authenticity. The reason is, for several centuries the higher caste Brahmin has been
teaching that the lower caste Hindu has no right to question, any discrepancies in
Hindu beliefs and mythology.
Have you read todays newspaper? If yes, you would have noticed that it was full of
news about violence all over India.
In one place the high caste (Brahmin) is holding the lower caste Hindu in bondage. In
another place Hindu-Christian communal violence, in other places, Hindus and
Muslims plan up on trivial matters, and Hindu and Sikhs are at each others throats.
Have you ever thought why all these disturbances happen who is instigating this? The
answer should be very simple, if you think and probe. The organizers are Done other
than the so-called Aryans. Who are the Aryans? The self proclaimed master race or
earth to which Hitler belonged. Who are the Aryans in India?
They are the high caste Brahmins / Rashtriya Swayam Sewak Sang (RSS) and their
allies.
THE HIGH CAST TERRORISTS OF INDIA ARE BRAHMINS
Let us NOW reason together.
CHAPTER II
ARYANS – BRAHMINS – RAHSTRIYA SWAYAM SEWAK SANG (R S S)
The MANU SMRITI (BIBLE OF HINDUISM) says:
A) A Brahmin is born to fulfill Dharma. Whatever exists in the world is the property
of the Brahmin. On account of the excellence of his origin, he is entitled to all.
The Brahmin eats but his own food, wears but his own clothes. All mortals
subsist through the benevolence of the Brahmin.
B) Ignorant or learned, A Brahmin is still a great deity. To Brahmin, THE THREE
WORLDS AND THE GodS OWE THEIR EXISTENCE.
Dr. Ambedkar says the cardinal principles of Brahminism are six:
1. Graded inequality between the different classes.
2. Complete disarmament of Shudras and the untouchables.
3. Complete prohibition of education of the Shudras and the untouchables.
4. Ban on the Shudras and the untouchables occupying places of power and
authority.
5. Ban on the Shudras and the untouchables acquiring property.
6. Complete subjugation and suppression of women.
Inequality is therefore the official doctrine of BRAHIMANIS (IBID-204)
Devadhinarn jagat sarvam
Mantradhinam ta devata
Tam Mantram Brahmandhinam
Brahmana nam devata
Meaning:
The Universe is under the power of Gods.
The Gods are under the power of the mantras.
The mantras are under the power of the Brahmins.
Therefore the Brahmins are our Gods.
Abbe J.A. Duboiss, Hindu Manners, Customs and Ceremonies, Oxford. Third Edition
1906, Page 139.
Also Manu-VI1, 137:
Let the king after rising early in the morning worship Brahmans who are well
versed in the three-fold sacred sciences and learned in policy and accept their
advice.
Again Manu XI, 85:
Brahman is the root of sacred law. By his origin alone he is a deity EVEN FOR
THE GodS and his word is authoritative for men.
ARE THE BRAHMINS SONS OF INDIAN SOIL?
No! They are invaders like the British and the Moghuls who entered India via Khyber
Pass to plunder its riches.
How clever are they when compared to the so – called low caste Hindus? They are
cleverer than the Jews. Why? Because the Jews with all their brain and might have yet
not settled. But the Brahmins who came from Central Asia are dividing and ruling
India without anyone noticing them.
The British have left India. But the higher caste Brahmin is still following the British
policy of divide and rule, creating barriers of caste and creed. They have carved a
niche for themselves in India. At whose cost? At the cost of the poor, half clothed
starving lower caste Hindus.
NOT ALL BRAHMINS ARE TO BE BLAMED. THERE WERE AND ARE EXCEPTIONS. SOME
WERE AND ARE MAHATHMAS.
But the vast majority of them are always bent upon instigating and dividing Indians
and consequently bringing untold misery, hardship and suffering to the innocent and
poor lower cast Hindus and others and thereby further economically downgrading
them.
E.g. Havell writes in his ARYAN RULE IN INDIA (Page: 148):
Already in Asokas time the Brahmans had probably CAPTURED the whole machinery
of the SANGHA us effectually as in modern times they have controlled the inner
working of British Departmental machinery.
These invaders branded the original sons of India as SHUDRA and ruling them in the
name of their religion.
BRANCHES OF FANATICS
RA.SHTRIYA SWAYAM SEWAK SANGH (RS.S.)
VISWA HINDU PARISHAD
HINDU MUNNANI
A.RYA SAMAJ
SIVA SENA
BHARATIYA JAINATA PARISHAD
PROVINCIAL ARMED CONSTABULARY (PAC)
This is one of the RSS Militant Police working under the banner of Indian Police Force
made of only high caste Hindus. So far not even a single non -Hindu member has
been recruited to this group which is getting a high pay (more than other police
forces) and facilities fromthe Government of India.
Mr. Khushwant Singh has the following to say in HINDUSTAN TIMES on this subject:
it is no longer any secret that the loss of life in both Delhi and Meerut was
predominantly Muslim and the majority of victims were killed by bullets, fired by the
police and the Provincial Armed constabulary. Our Government controlled media tried
to camouflage this ugly truth.
Dr. Subramaniam Swamy, General Secretary Lok Dal (A) also conveyed the same view
and went on fasting demanding a Central Inequity of the STATE SPONSORED
GENOCIDE, of Muslims of Hashimpura in Meerut May last. Dr. Swamy says that the
innocent people of Maliana village have ruthlessly gunned down. One finds himself
unable to draw a line of distinction between the British India and Independent India.
The onslaught that took place in Maliana is no less than the massacre of Jallian-wala
Bagh. The brutality of PAC is no less than the brutality of General 0. Dyre. The
incidents which are beyond imagination in democratic countryhave resulted into bare
facts.
(Our condolences to the families of unfortunate victims. Chatterjee).
LEADERS OF FANATIC GROUPS
PALRAJ MATHOKKER
BAL THACKERAY
A.B. VAJPAYEE
RAMNATH GOYANGA
BALA SHAIB DEVARAS
L.K. ADVANI
PROF. BALRAJ MADHOK
MANIAN – EDITOR IDAYAM
R. M. VEERAPAN – EX TAMILNADU MINISTER
VARI7YAR – VISHWA HINDU PARISHAI)
RAMA GOPALAN
THARMALINGA NADAR
CHO RAMASAMY
BRAHMIN MEANS ONE WHO DIVIDES & RULES!
BRAHMIN – CASTE SYSTEM & UNTOUCHABILITY
Gita preaches (IV 39-40) Karma theory. Krishna tells us in the Gita that he is the
author of the caste system (Gita 4-13, 10-36, 41). The Upanishads have also
sanctioned the caste system those who are of pleasant conduct here – the prospect is,
indeed, they will enter a pleasant womb, either the womb of a Brahmin, or the womb
of a Ksahtriya, or the womb of a Vaishya. But those who are of stinking conduct herethe
prospect is indeed, that they will enter a stinking womb, either the womb of a dog
or the womb of a swine or the womb of an outcaste (Shudra). (Chandogya
Upanishad 5-10-7).
These Brahmins have created untouchability among Indians so that they can easily
divide and rule over India and they have succeeded in it.
CASTE INSULTS HARD TO PUNISH!
Times of India says (30-8-87) that the commission on scheduled castes and tribes, in
its sixth report placed before Parliament has pointed out that the home ministry
objective of July 1978 to remove UNTOUCHABILITY in five years has remained
illusive. It continues that the most of the cases are discharged because of failure to
relate insults or attempts to insult to untouchability. Because of the mandatory
provision of imprisonment of at least one month if the office is established, even the
trial court appear to hesitate in pronouncing anyone guilty and so on.
WHAT IS THE DUTY OF THE SHUDRA?
The Gita (18-44) says : Service is the duty of Shudra
The laws of the Maanu (1-91) say The Lord Prescribed the Shudra, to serve meekly
ever these three (other) castes. Also The King himself must order the Shudra to serve
the twice born castes (Brahmin) (Manu8l 0).
To server Brahmins is the highest duty of the Shudra.
There cannot be a greater anti – socialist philosophy than Brahminism.
If the vast majority of Shudras and particularly the untouchables today appear lifeless,
spiritless, hopeless and thoroughly emasculated, it is because of this Brahmin law.
To get a strong foothold in India, the Brahmin divided the sons of India into different
castes and creeds A Brahmin is huge monster who devours the lower caste Hindu.
How bad is this system?
According to a recent government survey there are more than 2,000 castes in India. Is
it not shameful? It means each caste can claim superiority over the other, a man from
one caste will not marry a girl of another cast, and no two castes congregate together
.. and so on.
How will the people of India unify when this inhuman unfair and unequal caste system
prevails? India is a unique mode in the world when it comes to racial discrimination.
The death toll in caste war and violence is much higher their in Hindu- Christian,
Hindu -Muslim communal violences.
The low caste welfare Minister Mrs. Rajendra Kumar Bajbai read out a report during a
parliament session on 7-11-86 as follows:
From Jan 1986 till June 1986:
Murder of low caste people by High caste Hindu 337
Raping of law caste Hindu women 511
Recorded atrocities to the low caste by the high caste Hindu 9347
BONDED LABOR
Brahminism and Vedas have paid the ways for Bonded Labor System in India, which is
the creation of caste system. Even after 40 years of independence, still we couldnt
gave the low caste Shudras from this bondange devil.
The Time of India reported on 10th May 1987 that Swami Agnivesh, President of the
Bonded Labor Liberation Front, said that more than 20,000 people mostly Harijans
and Advicasis were still being exploited and were leading the life of slaves in West
Chamaran and Gopalganj districts of North Bihar which be proved to the Government
with unassailable evidence.
Why do the high caste Brahmins instigate and provoke the innocent Hindus (other
castes) to direct enmity and violence against peace loving Christians and Muslims? To
keep themselves in power and rule over the majority of Hindus who belong the
Shudra (the so called) low castes. The evil consequences of this wicked design are
then dumped at the doors of other minorities likes Christians and Muslims and Sikhs.
Who made the Brahmin the high caste? The Puranas and Vedas say that the Brahmins
were created by Brahma from big head and therefore they have the right to belong to
that group. To they are people of high caste. Well, it sounds very logical convincing
and acceptable but, who wrote the Puranas and Vedas? There any proof or
authenticity as to their Origin? Or did it come from high above? It would be very
interesting if you take little trouble to find out who was in fact behind these books
and what was their motive in writing them?
We are living in the 20th century where science and technology has advanced
unprecedently. However, in some parts of India, even today a low caste Hindu cannot
pass on a street from the end to the other end without first having his chappals
removed and placed on his head.
Hotels and other eating places maintain separate cuttlery for low caste Hindus.
The first Indian Governor General and Ex- Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu Mr.
Rajagopalchari alias Rajaji (Brahmin) advocated that people should pass down through
generations the professions of their fathers and forefathers in order to reduce
unemployment. This suggestion was highly praised by many newspapers owned by
Brahmins / RSS. What is the reasoning behind this advocacy? Think Supposing your
father was a barber or a cobbler you will be required to carry out the same profession.
Of course, the self proclaimed, high caste Brahmin with his blue blood will always
come out on the top even if he is unfit to be a sweeper.
In his book History of Tamils, Prof. P.T. Srinivasa lyenger explains Vedas in more
detail. Accordingly the High caste Brahmins are supposed to go nearer to the God
statue and can be a priest. If a Shatria (slightly lower caste than Brahmins) goes
nearer to the statue of any God, it is a bad omen to the status and the remedies are
as follows:
Brahmin (High caste).. You can do anything.
Remedies
Shatria …. 7 pots of water to clean the statue.
Vysia …. 24 pots of water + Shanti Homam to be conducted
Sutra the lowest caste 108 pots of water + Maha Shanti Homam + FOOD TO
BRAHMINS.
WHO BUILT THE TEMPLES?
Only SHUDRAS (Harijans) have built all the temples all over India. These Brahmins
never carried a stone or brick on their shoulder or bead. Till he completes the
constructions of the temple, a Shudras hard work is required. But once the work
completed these Brahmins branded these workers as Shudras and after that they
cannot even enter the temple and devised for the above mentioned remedies and
punishments, if they go nearer to the God statues in the temp le.
According to the Puranas, to become a King or Administrator one should be Brahmin.
To become a Brahmin, one must take 4 births. But now many low caste people are
Chief Minister without the 4 birth? This itself shows these Puranas are the false
books created by the Brahmins to fool you.
The following Chief Ministers were non- Brahmins and they ruled Tamil Nadu for a
long period in an efficient way and proved the BRAHMIN originated VEDAS and
PURANAS fairy tales:
1. Mr. Kamraj
2. Mr. C.N. Annadurai
3. Dr. M. Karunanithi
DO YOU BELIEVE THAT ALL THE PEOPLE OF THE WESTERN AND MIDDLE EAST
COUNTRIES HAVE TAKEN ALL THE THREE BIRTHS (ACCORDING TO PURANAS AND
VEDAS) AND TODAY THEY ARE ALL TREATED AS HIGH CASTE GENERATION WHO ARE
EQUIVALENT TO INDIAS HIGH CASTE BRAHMINS?
Which is true? PTO
Achieve success in this world and hereafter a man has to take three births as per the
claims of Vedas and Puranas
The following respected leaders and reformists like Periar E.V. Ramasamy, Dr.
Ambedkar, Raja Ram Mohan Roy, Lord Pending Ex Chief Ministers C.N. annadurai, Dr.
Karunanithi and Mr. Shyam Sunder Father of Indias Dalit Movement, our beloved
Viduthalai K. Veeramani and respectable revolutionist fought against Brahminism and
achieved tremendous victories. Because of their continuous efforts, Tamil Nadu today
is a beacon for the caste of uplifting the low caste Hindus. Till Dr. M. Karunanidhi
period, there was peace all over Tamil Nadu and he kept the Brahmin/RSS under
control. Even today still people talk how he handled the TNagar Sudden Pillaiyar and
put an end to the absurdity. This truth cannot be denied by anyone.
When the late K. Kamaraj, the Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu launched plans for the
upliftment of the lower caste Hindus, the Brahmin owned media spread the rumour
that KAMRAJ NADAR was helping only NADARS. If it was for Brahmins, they would
have praised Kamaraj.
Why is the so-called low caste Hindus financially destitute? Why is India economically
backward? Because the Brahmins do not allow others to progress. They hold high
offices in government, control the news media, educational system etc. How could
others possibly rise up, come out of thecaste system bondage? Needless to say, with
all the facilities at their disposal they could produce brilliant scientists, doctors etc.
Assuredly even the low caste Hindus could do this if they were provided with the
same facilities.
How can India prosper when a comparatively small family of Brahmins who form only
2% of Indians population enjoys a major share of the fruit? The Brahmins are to be
blamed for the backwardness and stagnation of other castes and the country, which is
governed by them.
Other faiths do not have caste system. Periar and Dr. Ambedkar confirms this saying
that for example Muslim religion Islam believes in absolute equality of human beings.
No one is superior to another because of color, creed, caste, birth, position etc.
ANY MAN WITH COMMON SENSE WILL AGREE WITH US IF HE REASONS OUT REMEMBER
IT IS A CHALLENGE!
THE ORIGINATORS OF INDIAN CASTE SYSTEM ARE BRAHMINS. PUNISHMENT TO LOW
CASTES.
The tongue of a Shudra, who spoke evil about a BRAHMIN, should be cut off. A Shudra
who dared to assume a position of equality with the first three castes was to be
flogged.
(Apastainbha Dharma Sutra 111, 10-26)
If a Shudra over heard a recitation of the Vedas molten tin was to be poured in to his
ears; if be repented the Vedas his tongue should be cut and if he remembered Vedic
hymns, his body was to be torn into pieces.
MANU 167-272 says:
If a Shudra over-heard a recitation of the Vedas motten tin was to be poured in to his
ears; Again MANU 167-272 says:
Let the king never slay a Brahman though he may have committed all possible crimes.
With all reference to Vedas and Puranas it wouId be appropriate to question how fair
the system is, of administering justice Well according to these Holy Books if a
Brahman commits a sin he is forgiven, but onthe contrary if a low caste Hindu
commits a sin, he has to feed twenty Brahmins in order to expiate or erase his sin.
Would you call this fair and just system of justice?
Oh! My brethren! India was once a great nation of Hindus. Why is it now
disintegrating? Why are Hindus turning to other beliefs for relief and solace? Why are
they running away from Hinduism? This is all due to bias and spiritual intimidation
and threats by the Brahmins, and of late by the RSS. People of other India differ with
the Hindus only in faith. They are otherwise similar in all other aspects such as color,
language, culture etc. They were originally Hindus so they are Intact our brothers. But
why did they accept a different faith? The Brahmins because they could not further
tolerate the spiritual torture administer it. Recently, about 50,000 Harijans
(untouchables because they were created from Brahmas feet) embraced other faiths.
These people would have concluded to adopt these faiths in order to gain freedom for
good from the menace of caste system.
AMBEDKAR on CONVERSION
In his book WHY CONVERSION? Dr. Babasaheb Ambedkar has shown that the real
struggle is between high caste Hindus and the Untouchables. One class against
another is doing this injustice. The high castes anger against the untouchables (low
caste) is very simple. Your behavior on par with them INSULTS them. The
untouchability is not a short or temporary feature, it is a permanent one. to free
yourself you must establish close relations with some other society,or join some other
religion. But until then you cannot get the strength from outside. This clearly means
you must leave your represent religion and assimilate yourselves with some other
society. If you have to get ride of this shameful condition, if you have to cleanse this
fill and make use of this precious life, there is only one way and that is to throw off
the shackles of Hindu religion and the Hindu society in which you are bound. For
annihilating castes and untouchability from among the untouchables. CHANGE of the
religion is the only antidote.
Also Dr. Ambedkar continues that to call onself a Muslim, a Christian, a Buddhist or a
Sikh is not merely a change of religion but also a change of name… Acongential idiot
alone will say that one has to adhere to ones religion because it is that of our
ancestors. No same man will accept such a position. The Hindu society does not give
equality of treatment. Obviously, the social equality is easily achieved by conversion.
If this is true the social equality is easily achieved by conversion. If this is true then
why should you not adopt this simple path of salvation which leads you ultimately to
equality. After giving dept thought to the problem, everybody will have to admit that
conversion is necessary to theUntouchables as self-government is to India.
Finally Dr. Ambedkar concludes conversion is the only way to enternal bliss. Nobody
should hesitate even if political rights are required to be sacrificed for this purpose.
Conversion brings no harm to the political safeguards. If you become Muslims you
will get the political rights as Muslims. If you become Christians, you will get the
political rights as Christians, if you become Sikhs, you will have your political
safeguards as Sikhs. In short, our politicalrights will accompany us. Even after 20% of
Indias population changed into other religions within a short period of time, these
Brahmins have not yet changed themselves. I tell you all very specifically, religion is
for man and man is not for religion. To get human treatment, convert yourselves.
CONVERT for getting organized.
CONVERT for becoming strong
CONVERT for securing equality
CONVERT for getting liberty
CONVERT so that your domestic life may be happy.
I consider him as LEADER who without fear or favor tells the people what is good and
what is bad for them. It is my duty to tell you, what is good for you, even if you dont
like it. I must do my duty. And now I have done it.
It is now for you to decide and discharge your responsibility.
(Courtesy : LOKRAJYA)
RESULTS after CONVERSION
Just look at the people after conversion. Christians improved their educational, social
and economic position very much. Whenever the Brahmin media criticizes the Pope,
Church and their Institutions, the Christians are getting more and more stronger than
the evil Community.
Muslims also have improved their social, economic arid educational standard. If they
changed the religion for GULF MONEY, they could have simply returned to their
original UNTOUCHABLE category. Can you quote just one evidence for that. It is a
challenge. I recently visited Tamilnadu all the way from Calcutta to just see a recent
mass conversion and to my great surprise these new converts are doctors, advocates,
engineers and most of them are income tax payers. When the Government and its
official branded these new coverts (educated and rich) have embraced another
religion just for the Gulf money, this false claim and lies increased their faith with
their new religion doubled. Though they were able to get their educational and
economic freedom because of the previously mentioned leaders and reformists, now
only they got the real freedom from the Brahmin slavery and domination. To day they
get rights equal to Brahmins. The only secret of their success is CONVERSION.
(The author was questioned by the Government appointed RSS / Brahmin Secret
Service Agentspermanently posted in that area inquiring me, who are you? Why
should you came here all the way from Calcutta, how long you are working in South
India, do you have property in Tamilnadu and so on. Really they are the very smart
people.)
A SMART AMD SELF-RESPECTING CONVERT!
Recently, a highly intellectual person from the (so-called) low caste Hindu extract
embraced another religion. When he was urged by his family and Brahmin friends to
revert to Hinduism, this gentleman readily agreed to come back to thefold of
Hinduism on the condition that he be accepted as a Brahmin. This offer would have
been naturally rejected since a low caste Hindu, according to Puranas and Vedas, can
never become a Brahmin unless he goes through the process of birth and rebirth
thrice. It is because of this discrimination by Brahmins that educated and uneducated
Hindus embrace either other religions where it is very easy to be an equal among
others on DAY ONE.
A HINDU CANNOT BECOME A BRARMIN!
Since low caste Hindu started realizing the Brahmins atrocities and embracing other
religions, now Brahmin/RSS want them to come back to Hinduism. If they are sincere
they must welcome them to Brahminism. But do you know the truth! A man can easily
become Christian, Muslim or Hindu. But he cannot become a BRAHIMIN. According to
Puranas and Vedas, he must take another three births to become a Brahmin.
As a result of Brahmin/RSS dominations and atrocities, today INDIA HAS MORE
CHRISTIAN AND MUSLIM population than any other Christian and Muslim countries of
the world!
Hindus now make up 80% of Indias population. The prospects of this percentage is
diminishing very fast as the atrocities of high caste Brahmins increasing and because
of this, other religions are prospering, but Hinduism is dying day by day.
OUR CHALLENGE!
Show me a Christian, Muslim, Sikh who embraced Hinduism. If they really want, which
caste of Hinduism will they embrace. Of course he cannot become a BRAHMIN.
According to Veda, he has to die for three more times. But the Brahmin will not object
if he becomes another SHUDRA.
A SELF-DEFEATING HINDU!
Recently in a Bengal University there was a debate between moderate Hindu
Professors and fanatic Hindus. The latter were prepared to give their lives to save
Brahminism. Since the brain washing process in the past! (for many generations) by
the Brahmins was an excellent one. It is not a wonder to see such people even today!
Who can stop one who wanted to put sand over his head himself! One can fool
another in the name of religion for some time but not for EVER ! The 20% of Hindus,
who have embraced Christianity and Islam to day, is the evidence of it!
BRAHMIN Vs APARTHIED
In India 2% Brahmins are ruling 98% Indians whereas in South Africa 10% whites are
ruling 90% Blacks.
What right has India to talk about the apartheid policy of South Africa? When the
worst kinds of apartheid policy is prevailing in India. As such we have no right to
point fingers at others.
ALL THESE YEARS WE HAVE BEEN BLIND AND NOW IT IS TIME FOR US TO SEE.
The living lengend Mr. V.1. Rajashekar says:
No where in the world the word peace, non-violence, tolerance and
brotherhood are repeated so many times in the day as in India. But nowhere in the
world so much blood is shed. Perhaps more people were killed in India after the
independence than in the two world wars. We talk of democracy, equality before
law but keep a third of Indias 800 million people as untouchables, unseables,
unapproachables and unthinkables.
0! My dear Hindu brethren, cant you see the truth?
BRAHMIN vs WORLD BODIES ON APARTHIED IN INDIA
Violation of Human Rights is a fit case for International intervention and there cannot
be a more gory case of persecution and torture in the whole world than that of Indias
Untouchables. The Minority Rights Group (36, Caven St., London Wc2-5NG, U.K.) has
brought out a valuable document, UNTOUCHABLES OF INDIA, Price Stg. Pounds 1.20),
exposing the Hindu persecution of Untouchables in India. Also, the American
Ambassador to United Nations, Mrs. Jeane Kirkpatrick had brought out this subject in
INDIA ABROAD (Dec. 17, 1982) when raising the issue of Untouchables in India.
Sumnatha Banerjee, a noted Hindu columnist writes in the Deccan Herald, Dec. 16,
1982, On almost all counts India has been violating the Covenant. The conservative
figures cited by the Amnesty International in the annual report are quite revealing.
The former Indian Prime Ministers (all Brahmins, Jawaharlal Nehru, Indira Gandi,
Morarji Desai and A.P. Vajpeyee (Foreign Minister) have spoken on the International
antiapartheid (1978-79) without bothering about what is happening in India since
Independence. The Untouchables in Contemporary India (University of Arizona Press,
Tucson, Arizona USA) have clearly mentioned the problems of Untouchables in India.
The Washington post reported on its front page of Jan 3,1980 Untouchables are still
Indias outcastes and are still persecuted despite Indian reform effort.
ANSERS TO RACIAL PROBLEMS
In his book the author says how this apartheid system should be handled. A FREE
copy of this book can be had from P0 2439, DURBAN, SOUTH AFRICA. THE
BRAHMTNS/RSS CRITICISE THE BELIEFS OF THE CHRISTIANS AND THE MUSLIMS
INSTEAD OF WORRIYING ABOUT THEIR OWN MYTHS.
BRAHMIN1SM vs BUDDHISM
In Ramayana (Ayodya Kandam 100 Sarukkam Page No. 374 Translation by C.R.
Srinivasa Iyer (Brahmin) says: A thief and BUDDHIST are same and there is no
difference between them.
You must note the trick of this above claim. When the name Buddhism is quoted in
the Ramayana it means that Buddhism is older than Hinduism.
C.V, VIDYA (Brahmin) writes in his EPIC INDIAPage 377:
Buddha is a thief, the Tathagata is a Nastik Athiest. A wise man who can help it
should therefore not be inclined towards Nastika.
BRAHMANISM vs SIKHISM
Do you ever think why sikhism started? Who were Sikhs? Christians or Muslims? No,
they were Hindus once. If you read what the respectable Guru Nanak had written
before, you would be surprised.
Guru Nanak was keenly aware of the immorality ofcaste system; a system under which
Brahmins gave themselves the most powerful and unchallengeable position at the
cost of others and especially Shudras, who are condemned to lead a life below human
dignity. He removed all the apartheid and atrocities that the Brahmin were doing from
the Sikh society.
If you go through in detail what Guru Nanak has written you will clearly know that this
knowledgeable man tried to save the people of Punjab from the caste Brahmins. As a
result today the Sikhs are forming 2% of Indias total population.
This belligerent and hostile attitude towards the non-Hindu communities in India is
not new. In the past this Vedic discipline has been relentlessly applied against even
Hindu reformers who tried to challenge the holy ideology of Brahmin domination.
The Buddhists were driven out. The Jams were forcibly assimilated. Untouchables and
tribals confined to segregated quarters. The Sikhs went a ling way towards cultural
assimilation, but when they demanded economic, political andcultural rights they
were dubbed as outlaws.
The Hindu political culture does not admit of socio-cultural heterogeneity, not to
mention political diversity. If has always sought a coercive homogenization of cultures
and other religions being not in a position to oblige to such a view have to bear the
full brunt of a resurgent Cast fascis.
CLAIMS OF SLKH LEADERS
In a recent Golden temple congregation, the head priest justified their claim for a
separate land saying that why should we all be ruled by a 2% community (Brahmin)
when they are not at all the sons of India. He concluded saying that Guru Nanak freed
us from Brahmins slavery and let us free ourselves from Brahmins rule. Is this claim
true? You be the judge!
DEVDASI (LEGALISED PROSTITUTION)
Who created Devdasi and Jogins? The Brahmins. For whom? Certainly not for go-but
on Gods behalf-for the high cast priests. Who are the priests? The BRAHMINS. Where
so the Devadasi and Jogins come from? The low caste Hindus (Shudras).
BARATHA NATY
Another claim by the BRAHMINS is BARATHA NATYA. Because of Brahmins media this
dance is very famous today. Once again Dr. Charles criticizes that no decent man will
ever allow his daughter or wife to entertain others in the name of an ART!
In the National Geographic Video program (The Explorer). Kalachetras Rukmini Devi
admits that since the Baratha Natya was the only art of Devadasis to please their
audience and admiral, still the claim that only PROSTITUTES are learning this dance
couldnt be changed. Also she admits that now only the Brahmins are trying to save
this very old talented art. You might have seen plenty of the Baratha Natyas posures
in Hindu temples. May be like KARATE to Japanese. BARATHA NATY to a Brahmin,
since it is the culture and way of the Aryan.
KAMASUTRA
Again Dr. Charles says that the only CLAIM the BRAHM1NISM can quote is the creation
or KAMASUDRA (A HOW TO DO? BOOK). Even that is not practicable in daily life
because of its poseurs are not at all possible to any human beings. Also to perform
such an sexual act you require two more ASSISTANTS!
SEXUAL ABUSE OF DALIT (LOW CASTE) GIRLS
UNI-TNDIAN EXPRESS MAY 29, 87 says that according to Indian Health
Organization (IHO), the practice of dedicating innocent young girls as DEVADASIS to
the Yellamma temple in Belgum district in Karnataka, continues despite the ban
imposed by the State Government.
There is no big surprise in the above claim. LORD KRISHNA is the first person who
started these atrocities to the low caste milkmaid girls when he used to steal their
saris and gazing at their naked bodies from the treetops!
LITERACY
Here is the aphorism of the Brahma-Sutras:
shravana, adhana, arthapratishedhat smriteh ca
BrahrnaSutras 1.3.9.38
Meaning:
The smrithi orders that Shudras must be prohibited from hearing, studying and
understanding the Vedas.
In his book The Sacred Books of the East which is the translation of SHANKARAS
BRAJHMA-SUTRA-BHASHYA, Mr. George Thibaut (edited by F. Maz Muller and
published by Motilal Bandarsidas, Delhi 1968) which says:
The Shudras tongue is to be slit if he pronounces it (VEDAS); his bodyis to be cut
through if he preserves it and so on…
India is the only country in the world where Brahmins made educationtheir exclusive
monopoly. And also imposed strict penalty on learning by low castes. The penalty on
LEARNTNG included cutting the tongue and pouring molten lead into ears etc. Please
read the MANSUMRITI for more details.
Do you know the average Indian literacy rate? It is 30%
But the Brahmins have 100%.
Out of the total Indian doctors in the U.S.A. 67% are Brahmins. The Indian Government
is spending millions of rupees to educate these selfish Brahmins who instead of
serving the poor masses of India work in rich.
On the other hand Brahmin professionals in the field of Engineering and Law exploit
the people of India. Their representation in these fields is 53% and 57% respectively.
In the fields of education, what percentage do their Teachers and Professors make up?
It is more than 51%. Out of 2% of Indias population, how the BRAHMINS can dominate
this much percentage of fortune! Do you think they have achieved this much success
in a right and justified work? No it cannot be so. Look at the Yadhavas (Vanniars) and
Sikhs! They are also representing 2% each of Indias population and their overall
percentage is not even 3% of success.
BRAHEMINS-PRESS
Who has the major share of magazine/news papers published in India?
Of course, the publishing houses are owned by the Brahmins/RSS.
What is the size of their share? According to a recent survey, it is approximately 8%.
The following are the well known Newspapers and periodicals, that are owned by the
Brahmins, not to mention so many other which are financed by the Brahmins to blow
their trumpets.
Indian Express 93% employees are Brahmins
Hindu 97 % employees are Brahmins
Times of India 83% employees are Brahmins
Organizer
Deccan Herald
Hindustan Times
India To-day
Mirror
Illustrated Weekly
Ananda Vikadan
Kalaimahal
Savi Idayam
Kalki
Tuklak
How far do these newspapers and magazines help India solve its burning national
problems? Nil. On the contrary they methodically brainwash young minds to hate
people who are not Hindus. They use all the means at their disposal to ensure that
the so-called low caste Hindus remain divided and oppressed.
How do they capitalize on the Media?
You now know that the Media as a whole is under their full control. Recently,
Kamalahasan, a well-known South Indian actor (Polygamy Brahmin) got himself in
trouble. This allowed his closest rival Rajni Kant, a nonBrahmin, to become No. I
hero. The Brahmin/RSS owned media came out with a rumor that Rajani Kant suffer
from leprosy. Why did they spread such a rumor? Obviously to help the Brahmin
Kamalahasan to regain his position. Why does the Brahmin/RSS press fabricate such
stories? Whom do they hurt? You, ofcourse, the lower caste Hindus.
When anybody marries more than one wife the Brahmin/RSS owned newspapers make
a big issue of this. Nevertheless, when Kamalahassan (Brahmin) got married to a
cinema actress for the second time, the Brahmins hushed up the matter immediately.
Recently one MP challenged in a public meeting in Madras anyone who can show a
Muslim married four wives. If so, he will give him 10,000 Rupees. On the other hand
he mentioned 7 leading Brahmin Businessmen and Advocates who live with 4 wives to
day. An enthusiastic Hindu Munnani Brahmin (RSS Branch) volunteers took up this
challenge but failed to find one from the Muslims. On the other hand they have
confirmed the MEs report that Brahmins have married 4 wives and living in separate
bungalows.
God Subramaniam had two wives, God Dasharathan had thousands of wives according
to Ramayana. So Hindu Gods and Brahmins can many more than one. But not lower
caste Hindu.
Recently when the Govt. of India sacked Mr Venkateswaran ex-foreign Secretary, a
Brahmin for reasons, which cannot be made public due to the sensitivity of the
subject, the entire Brahmin World made an outcry in every possible way.
ALL INDIA BRAHMIN RADIO & T.V.
These Brahmins have invaded both All India Radio and Television all over India. Most
of the time Brahmins and their programs only are on air. Hence we can call them as
ALL BRAHMIN RADIO & TV.
BRAHMINS, TEE WEALTHY
Manu VIII 35,39 says:
When a learned Brahman has found treasure deposited in former times, he may take
even the whole of it, for he is master of everything. When the kind finds treasure of
gold concealed in the rounds, let him give one-half to Brahmins and place the other
half in his treasury.
MANUVIl, 133 also says:
Brahmans should not be taxed and should be maintained by the state. ABOUT LOW
CASTE Shudras. MANU SMRIT X, 129:
That no collection of wealth was to be made by a Shudra even though he may be able
to do it, for a Shudra who has acquired wealth give pain to Brahman, and that a
Brahman may appropriate by force the property of a Shudra.
PAYCEVANISH BRAHMAN 3-1/11 says:
Even if a Shudra acquired wealth, he must always remain a slave. His main job is to
wash the feet of the higher caste.
TULSIDAS, a Brahman in his Ramayana writes:
Even if a Shudra is learned and virtuous, he should not be given respect and honor.
When the British left India almost all the industries owned by them were taken over by
the Brahmins. So much so that today they own about 60% of the leading Industries in
the country. Remember their (Brahmin) population is only 2% of the total population
of India.
Let us briefly look at other statistics:
Banks
Airlines
LAS Officers
LPS Officers
Radio & T.V
57% of employees are Brahmins
61% of employees are Brahmins
72% of employees are Brahmins
61% of employees are Brahmins
83% of employees are Brahmins
C.B.1, Customs Officials & Central Excise: 72%
A recent classified report says that most of the spies who passed the Indian
intelligence information to the other countries in the past and earned over night
millions are also BRAHMINS. You might have read and confirmed this informations in
the Indian newspapers in the past.
For example, let us see how generous these Brahmin are in giving employment to
others in Tamil Nadu:
India Pistons
Sundaram Clayton
Simpson Groups
TVS Group
87% Brabmins
91% Brabmins
89% Brabmins
93% Brabmins
BRAHMIN vs YADAVAS (VANNERS)
The population of Yadhavas is also 2% and let us see how much percentage they are
getting:
Banks
Airlines
LAS Officers
IPS Officers
0.2 % of employees are Yadhavas
0.1% of employees are Yadhavas
Nil
Nil
Do you get a fair salary for your hard work? No. Why ? Because most of the
paymasters are Brahmins. Can you live with this pay? Naturally you cannot.
Remember! Your children/grand children too will continuous your way of life until you
free yourself from the control of Brahmins/RSS.
How many Governors are Brahmins?
How many are Ambassadors and officials in foreign countries all over the world?
POLITICS OF INDIA AND BRAHMINS (RSS) CONNECTION
Since Indias independence, only BRAHMINS ruled India. All Prime Ministers of India so
far were only BRAHMINS Most of he PRESDENTS were BRAHMINS.
2% RULING OVER 98% – WONER!
Even recently the two major PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES were BRAHMINS. Then who
will be selected! Head I win and Tail you loose. With all these appointments also
the BRAHMINS are not satisfied. Finally the VICE PRESIDENT is also a BRAHMIN.
Is there no one in India other than the ONLY Brahmins for such positions? So, you
believe that these 98% population are IGNORANTS and ILLITRATES! It is more worse
than South Africa, where 10% white is ruling over 90% black population. But here 2%
BRAHMIN is ruling over 98% NON BRAHMIN of India. To a Brahmin all the 98 % of
Indias population are nothing but SHUDRAS, irrespective of your beliefs about
yourselves as Hindu, Christian, Muslim, Sikh and Budhist. UNBELIEVABLE.
Recently they have proved only BRAHMINS can become a Prime Minister, President and
Vice President. Did any one notice this?
BRAHMIN LOBBY!
How many are in the Central Governments all over India? The Central Government
survey says these are more than 47%. In Delhi alone in the Central Government
Offices there are 71%. Since there is only one lobby viz. BRAHMIN LOBBY in the Indian
Parliament, there is no wonder if all the heads of Department (Prime Minister,
persident and Vice president) are Brahmins.
Oh! My suppressed, oppressed, innocent Hindu Brethren! Are you aware that the high
caste Brahmins have not spared you even in politics.
IS INDIA A SECULAR COUNTRY?
Who said India is a secular country? If so, all our claims are garbage and full or lies.
The master race is following Indian, the original sons of the soil in the name of
secularism, Church said Name the dog and kill it and Brahmin is implementing it
without anyone noticing.
INDIAN MILITARY SERVICE
It is significant that these Brahmins/RSS members never join the anned forces
as fool soldiers, border, guards, and other low rade jobs in order to save their own
white
skin, But in high posts as officers they are present enlarge numbers.
THE SMART BRAHMINS
BRHMINS are really smart people. Since they are all motivated claiming that according
to Vedas and Puranas they are the Master race of the earth from the day of Asoka,
they have educated themselves generation after generation and today you will see
that a Brahmin means an educated person: During Second World War they have
started learning German language. For what? If they won the war, they can go and
serve the Germans. They are flexible, never argue with you and appear submissive.
But remember they are the No. I opportunist!
BRAHMINS AND YOU
0! HELPLESS HINDU! Why dont your children get opportunities to study and become
doctors, engineers, lawyers, collectors (LAS) and Police Officers (IPSO? Because if you
study you will get freedom from Brahmin rule and they wi]l losetheir control and slip
down from their higher positions.
What is your present situation? Most of you can never hope for anything other than
work for daily or monthly wages and work as a landless farmer, until your death. And
this situation will not come to an end with your death. Your children will inherit the
same fate of being landless farmers.
BRAHMINS/RSS AND VIOLENCE
Who was responsible for the assassination of Mahatma Gandhi, the father of the
Nation? Obviously, you know the answer. Because the Mahathma preached and
practiced inter communal harmony. Equality among people, including the low caste
Hindus whom he named as Harijans (which means children of God). All beings are
CREATURES of one God and therefore all are equal!
How many attempts were made the life of Ambedkar and Periyat?
OPEN WARNING TO BRAHMEN/RSS ALLIES
0! SAFFRON CLOTH WEARING BRAHMTN/RSS, WE KNOW THE RSS AND ITS BRANCHES
AND WE WARN THEM IF ANYTHING HAPPENS TO THE LIVING LEGENDS WHO TRY TO
SAVE INDIA FROM THE SLAVERY BONDAGE. IF ANYTHING HAPPEN TO THEM, THE
BRAHMIN AND THEIR RSS ALLIANCES WILL BE HELD RESPONSIBLE AND WE KNOW HOW
TO TAKE REVENGE AGAINST THEM.
REMEMBER THEY HAVE ALREADY WRITTEN THEIR WILL KNOWING WHO YOU ARE !
BEWARE!
Brahmins/RSS Know the technique of cooking plots in such a manner that once they
are put into effect, the lower class Hindu will be always at the receiving end i. e. you
will have to face the consequences.
He is the planner! You are the executioner. Risk to his life and property? Nil. Risk to
your life and property 100%.
Currently Brahmins and the R.S.S are training ignorant Hindus in armed combat in
order to exploit them and use them as cannon foder, as and when required.
In India nobody is training himself in a violence training except the Brahmin and RSS
armies who have not only the Governments approval but also its blessing.
In a peace loving country such as India, is this training in violence essential? Or even
optional? If you have a patriotic feeling and want to save India, why not join, the
Indian armed forces?
OH! MY INNOCENT HINDU BROTHERN, WHY DONT YOU THINK, DISCUSS, JOIN HANDS
WITH OTHER BROTHERS, UNITE AND ACT AGAINST THE CRUELTIES, ATROCITIES AND
INHUMAN ACTIONS DIRECTED AGAINST YOU BY THE BRAHMINS/RSS IN THE NAME OF
RELIGION? WHY DONT YOU PLAN TO START THINKING POSITIVELY FOR YOUR OWN
GOOD?
CHAPTER III
GODS
Brahmins always criticize, condemn and mock other Religions when they have
nonsensical practices themselves. Their criticism and mocking is unreasonable,
unacceptable, and unnecessary. This breeds inter-communal hatred and disrupts the
peace of our Mother Land. When you point a finger at others you must realize that the
other four fingers point towards you.
Now let us examine what others say about Brahminism.
Although the Hindu philosophers say that Hinduism has only one God in theory,
which is not known to the majority of Hindus, in practice almost all Hindus worship
thousands of different Gods.
For example:
Men
Women
Planets
Stones
Mice
Pigs
Snakes
Monkeys
Male & Female sexual organs (Lingam & Youni) –
THOUSANDS OF GodS?
Almost each and every Hindu is worshipping a different God throughout India. There
is no uniformity in Hindu Gods.
MALE GodS ARE SURROUNDED BY FEMALE GodS!
In the temples most of the male Gods are surrounded by female Gods. Also many of
the Gods are having more wives and only a very few Gods have married with only one
wife!
GODS SEXY APPEARANCES
Go and see the Hindu Goddesses (Sita, Parvathi etc) and how they are projected in
temples. How sexy they are? Can their carved out gestures show you to worship? Can
you imagine either your mother or sister or daughter in such an erotic pose? And you
call this a holy place?
AN INTELLIGENT THIEF
Recently one Hindu thief was arrested and he disclosed that he had stolen more than
134 statues in different places and sold them for a good price. This smart their
questioned the police, if these are real Gods they would have stopped or punished
me. So I should be booked for stealing statues and not Gods.
See, how funny it is! If these Gods cannot save themselves, how can they save you?
MILESTONE GodS
How many milestones have become Gods? It is so simple just paint some red and
yellow color on a milestone and keeps a coin box (hundi) next to it. In a short time it
will become a God. In India, each and every corner has a small God with some funny
names getting more and more worshippers daily.
DR CHARLESS CLAIMS
In his biography, Dr. Charles, an American scholar says it is very simple to define a
Hindu. He says a Hindu means one who believes anything and everything if said in
the name of God And never will its authenticity be questioned.
Brahmins claim that Lord Rama is incarnated (came in human form) to study and
understand the, difficulties of mankind. Why is it necessary for a God to incarnate, if
he is a God? Why coming a cockroach or a donkey to understand the sufferings of
these creatures?
LORD RAMA
Lord Rama is the central character of the Epic RAMAYANA: His father was
polygamous. Historians say that since Dasartha (god Ramas father) was having many
wives, the whole Ramayana story was created. If Dasaratha remained with only one
wife, you and I would have never heard these fairy tales.
Now Brahmins always chant RAMA, RAMA and so on. According to Ramayana, when
he lived in the world he spent most of his time to save his wife Sita and enjoying his
life only. Now he did he find time to save these Brahmins? Let us see what Ramayana
says about the God RAMA!
GOD RAMA WAS FOOLED BY SUKRIEVAN
When God Rama was exiled to the forest together with his wife Sukrievan appeared as
a deer and fooled God Rama. A God is supposed to know everything. If Rama was a
God, he should have known that sukrievan was disguising as a deer to deceive Rama
enabling Ravana to kidnap the Goddess Sita to Sri Lanka.
2 YEARS TO God RAMA BUT ONE DAY TO RAVANA
To retrieve his wife from Ravana, God Rama sought the assistance of Hanuman, a
monkey God. Hanuman agreed to help Lord Rama to bring his wife on condition tat
he (god Rama) in turn help him (Hanuman) to kill his twin brother prior to under
taking the mission. It took more than twelve years for Hanuman to build a bridge and
accomplish the task but Ravana just took Sita and flew to Sri Lanka in one days time.
Now judge for yourself, who is more powerflul? God Rama or devil Ravana?
– If Hanuman was a God he shouldnt have contracted to murder his own twin
brother.
– If Hanuman, a monkey God, is capable of flying why cannot God Rama, a
greater God, fly?
– Will a God seek the assistance of another God to murder a third God
– If Hanuman could fly carrying big mountains, he should have in the first
instance carried and flown God Rama to Sri Lanka, which would have resulted in
early rescue of Sita.
– Lord Rama, even agreed to be a party in the murder of God Hanumans twin
brother.
– Who knows what Ravana might have done to Sita during this period of twelve
year? Definitely a devil would have done only devilish things!
Before helping God Rama, Hanuman made Rama to shoot his own twin brother in the
back and only then did Hanuman help God Rama. How can a God kill someone who is
not his real enemy? Just because God Rama wanted to save his wife Sita? How can a
God indulge in such a criminal act?
These are not empty claims. The Ramayana is telling us this
INTERESTING INCIDENTS IN God RAMAS LIFE MEAT-EATING God RAMA
1. When God Rama was told to go to forest, he mournfully revealed to his
mother: it has been ordained that I have to lose the kingdom, forego the
princely comforts and the tasteful MEAT-DISHES and to go to the forest
to eat the vegetables and fruits (AYOTHIA KANAM, 20,26, 94 Chapters).
2. With a heavy heart he said to his wife and mother The kingdom that has
been about to become mine has slipped out of my hands (Ayothia
Kandam, 20, 26, 94th chapters) and also I have been ordained to go to
the forest.
3. He approached Lakshmana and characterized his father (Dasaratha) as a
criminal and said:
4. Will any fool agree to send away to the forest a person who has all
through been carrying out his will? (Ayothia Kandam, 53rd Chapter)
MANY WIVES TO God RAMA
5. Mr. C.R. Sreenivasa Iyengars translation of Valmiki Ramayana says:
Though Rama had married Sita to be the queen, he married many other
wives for sexual pleasure in accordance with the royal customs (Ayothia
Kandam 8 Chapter, Page 28). The term Ramas wives has been used
many places in Ramayana.
6. Rama accused Kaikeyi as a WICKED WOMEN. (Chapters 31 and 53, Ayothia
Kandam)
7. Again Rama accused her that Kaikeyi would ill-treat my mother (Ayothia
Kanda, 31 and 53 chapters)
8. In the forest he told Lakshmana, as our father has grown old and infirm
and as we have also come to the forest. Bharatha with his wife will be
ruling over Ayothis joyfully without any opposition. (Ayothia Kandarn,
53rd chapter). This brings to light his innate baseness, jealousy and
ambition to capture the throne.
GOD RAMAS RESPECT FOR HIS FATHER
9. Rama called his father a FOOL, an IDIOT (Ayothia Kandam, 53rd
Chapter).
10. If I am enraged I can myself crush all my enemies and become the king.
But I desist from taking this course for he fear that I will be scorned at by
the people at large thus Rama showed his disregard for justice and
truthfulness (Ayothia Kandam, 53rd Chapter)
II. Baratha hearing the news of Ramas banishment went to the forest to
take him back to the country. On seeing Baratha, Rama questioned him.
0 Baratha, are you chased away y the citizens? Have you come here out
of your unwillingness to help our father? Now your mothers desire are
accomplished, is she happy? Thus Rama further asked Baratha.
(AYOTHIA KANDAM, Chapter 100).
12. Baratha assured God Rama that he gave up his claim to the throne. Then
only God Rama disclosed to Baratha the secret that Dasaratha had already
kingdom to Barathas mother, Kaikeyi (Chapter 107, Ayothia Kandam).
The noble man Baratha returned with the shoe and pinned it on the
throne and he was making throw him self into fire. Such an upright and
good person was SUSPECTED by God Rarna.
One page is missing here
Note: This Rama who mercilessly took away the life of sambuka for no other fault
than that he was making penance is held as the Avatar (Incarnation) of Vishnu! If there
were kings, like Rama now alas! What would be the plight of those who are called
Shudras?.
HOW God RAMA BROKE THE BOW?
23. The bow that was broken by Rama was Sitas. This bow was already a
broken one. (Refer Abidhana Chintamani Paged
157,331,57l,663,894,1151,1173 and 1494).
24. This is supported by various Ramayanas and Prasumm
CONTRADICTIONS OF God RAMAS AGE!
25. Look at his age when he broke the bow. When God Rama broke this bow,
according to his mother, he was then 5 years old, according to his father,
he was about 10. According to his wife (Sita) his age was 12. Whatever it
might be but it was already a broken is true according to the story.
HOW God RAMA ENJOYED?
26. God Rama narrated his own brother (Lakshman) how he enjoyed his wife
Sita (Kisikinda kandam Chapter 1 Pages 2,4,5,6 & 7). (For deeneys
sake, we didnt elaborate these chapters).
GOD RAMA SUSPECTED SITA!
27. God Rama asked, Sita! How could Ravana have left you (during these 12
years) without being seduced?
Sita replied. True! But what could 1 do? 1 am only a weaker sex. My body
was in RAVANAs possession. I did not do anything wrong WILLINGLY.
However, mentally I was with you. It was only divine will But she did not
assert herself that Ravana has not seduced me. (Uttara Kandam, Chapter
118).
GOD RAMA ABANDONED SITA!
28. Seeing her pregnancy Ramas doubt increased. Raina asked her to
plunge herself into the fire and come out to prove her chastity. Even
though Sita had under gone this trial prescribed by Rama, yet Raina
found out Sitas pregnancy. Rama took shelter under the charge made by
the citizen and ordered his brother Lakshman to take Sita to the forest
and leave her there. Then Sita showing her abdomen to Lakshmana said,
See my stomach! My pregnancy is four months old (Uttara Kandam,
Chapter 118)
FALSE CLAIM BY RAMAYANA?
Even though Sita plunged herself into the fire, God Rama didnt believe her chastity
and abandoned her in the forest. If God Ramas suspicion is correct, she should be
burnt in the fire. ButRamayana says that she came out of fire without any burning.
Even after the plunging into the fire, God Rama was suspicious on sita!
In the forest she gave birth to two children
(Uttara Kandam, Chapter 66)
When length Rama asked Sita to swear, she declined and died (Uttara Kandam,
Chapter 97)
SITA
I. Her birth is doubtful and questionable (Ayothia Kandarn Chapter 66)
2. She was older than Rama
3. She says I was found out from the dust and by that fact my parentage
not being known, none did come forward to woe me for many days even
after I attained maturity.
SITAS RESPECT TO God RAMA
4. Sita told Rama You are no better than a woman monger who lets his wife
for hire and makes his livelihood. You want to be profited by my
PROSTITUTION. Sita also told Rama You lack impotence manners and
charm. She called her husband a simpleton.
5. Sita having scented that Rama was always suspicious of her conduct
exclaimed Rama! You are my savior! In none but yourself I repose my
love. This many a time I swear by you; yet you do not believe me!
6. Rama said I tested you (6,7,8,9,10 & 11 Ayothia Kandam, Chapter 30)
7. Rama having in mind her pompousness and fragility of mind directed her
that she should strip off all her ornaments if she were to accompany him
the forest. Sita did accordingly but again she put on some other jewels
without the knowledge of Rama (Ayothia Kanda, Chapter 30)
8. Kausalya who was noticing this advised Sita to behave like a bobble and
virtuous lady. Do not disregarded your husbands worth. Sita insolently
replied to her mother-in-law, I know all this. Yet she did not remove
her jewels (Ayothia Kandarn, Chapter 37).
9. She prayed to the river while crossing it Oh! River! If I return safely to
ayothia I will offer you a thousand cows and a thousand pots of toddy.
(Ayothia Kandam, Chapter 52).
10. Whenever Rama was languishing in the disappearance of Sita, Lakshrnana
casuall
anybody can write a one sided view. that is what the author of this book also did. this is the kind of stuff one should expect from a leftist or a secularist who is willing to lick the ass of missionaries.
@steve(pseudonim)
the above are not the new things we are hearing.this fabrications and ilusions worked out from the time of MAXMULLER passed through DD COSAMBI,RAJAS and PANICKERS of communist parties
all this are already obstucted by strong proof by various religious leaders of india
go the sites of swami chidanadapuri in example
so this type of old DAL dont try to cook.bring some new one
this people a 5 years before thought QURAN was un challengeble
now the entire world is challenging the quran and its hadiths even an eight standerd pupil reject and refuse the liogics behind the book
so they have to survive ,for surving dont be and scavenger like HYENNA?
the word “shudra” means “a person who has committed sin”
thats the reason why these texts assert shudra as the servers because if any one has committed a sin to any one, then he is condemned to serve to the people whom he committed the sin…
over generations, the meaning of the verses of the vedic texts were misinterpreted and used for the own advantages by the so called “high castes” (who thought of their own wellbeing), just like the zakir naik uses the quotes from here and there from the vedas for his own advantage……….
the rest i will answer you later after a detail study ……..
@steve
In the list of leaders of fanatic hindu groups, you forgot to mention my name? I am the biggest fanatic. how can yu forget me?
steve you misunderstood hinduism
POOR STEVE HAS SHOWN HIS IGNORANCE AGAIN THE LINK PROVIDED BY STEVE WHICH HE GIVES FREQUENTLY http://truthofhinduism.com/general/sexy-historical-stories-of-krishna/ ) says that Lord Krishna had sex with putana because krishna BREASTFEEDS putana. If this is true then STEVE HAS ALSO HAD SEX WITH HIS MOTHER because he has also had BREASTFEED HER IN CHILDHOOD.
STEVE DON’T USE SILLY LOGIC WE CAN USE YOUR LOGIC AGAINST YOU ONLY
@kaffir786
this episode of krishna happens when krishna was a month old. wondering how can a month old baby have sex with a woman?
probably @steve must have got reminded about Mohammad having sex with 9 year old child bride, ayesha.
there is no other parallel i can see or relate to.
you are right kaffir786, this guy’s logic is outright stupid.
RAJA BROTHER you are right these people give reference to unverified sources and make mockery of themselves
this is a reply to steve and the fools who use the website “truthofhinduism” regarding the case of puthana and krishna
answer:
during the vamana avathar,
mahabali’s daughter (i dont know her name properly)
saw the young beautiful vaamana………
vaman appeared there as a young small dwarf beautiful child
looking and admiring the lovely beautiful face of the young child vaamanan, mahabali’s daughter felt to be like a mother to him and vaamana as a small baby, and so she wished to breastfeed him like a mother breastfeeding her baby child
but in that birth of her(i.e. mahabali’s daughter)), she didnt get the oppurtunity ti do so….
lord vaaman was vishnu, the all knowing , the all intelligent,
understood this and gave her oppurtunity to do so in his krishna avathaar .
in his krishnaavathar, mahabali’s dughter took her birth as puthana. lord krishna, enjoyed his childhood as a lovely beautiful child . so puthana got her wish satisfied in krishnaavathar, i.e. breastfeeding lord vishnu as a small, beautiful child like a mother (to her child)………..
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SEX…………………….
SO DONT BELEIVE IN THESE LITTLE KNOWERS,
THE VEDAS SAY:
“THOSE PROUD OF THEIR LITTLE KNOWLEDGE ENTER INTO DARKNESS THAT IS COVERED BY (WITH) DARKNESS”
THESE IDIOTS GIVE PUBLICITY TO THEIR LITTLE-KNOWLEDGE AND HENCE BROADCASTING THEIR IGNORANCE
The Scientific Miracles of Holy Quraan:
http://www.islamreligion.com/category/34/
@steve
the biggest miracle is that whichever woman/baby muhammad eyed upon, allah came up with a revealation
Interpolations to suit one’s imagination is what i saw the website. fantasies dont come true with interpolation of words.
quran itself says that no one should interpret quran. whatever is written is in quran is written in simple understandable language.
refer Quran- 44:58, 54:22, 54:32, 54:40
i think it took muslims 1400 years to realise that they have to interpolate words in quran to make it look scientific. realise this much that, quran contains no science. if it was there in quran 1400 years ago, why not a single invention worth mentioning did not come out of the islamic world. that shows how much science has been flowing in quran. whatever supersitions one can find in a primitive uncivilized societies of middle east, one find the same in islam and quran.
I read few of those miracles. the verse is simply not related to the miracle the website trying to tell the world. probably it is targeted only @ silly people.
@Steve
Arabic word for miracle is “Maujaja” which means an act which is done against the natural laws. Now if something has to be scientific, it cant be a miracle! And if something is miracle, it cant be scientific!
steve qaudiani,who are real muslims? since quadianis consider other `muslims` non muslims.
http://ahmadiyya.org/qadis/takfir1.htm
Qadianis declare other Muslims as kafir
From about the year 1911 Mirza Bashir-ud-Din Mahmud Ahmad (second khalifa of the Qadiani Movement) started to put forward the doctrine that it is not sufficient for a person to declare belief in the Kalima Shahada in order to be a Muslim because Mirza Ghulam Ahmad had now appeared as a prophet and belief in him must be acknowledged as well.
According to Mirza Mahmud Ahmad, it is no longer sufficient for the existing Muslims to believe in the Holy Prophet Muhammad and all the prophets before him. Now they must also declare that they believe in the prophet Mirza Ghulam Ahmad as well. Otherwise they cannot remain Muslims but become just like those Jews and Christians who believed in the previous prophets but failed to accept the Holy Prophet Muhammad.
Mirza Mahmud Ahmad wrote a book A’inah-i Sadaqat, published in 1921, which was translated into English and first published in 1924 under the title The Truth about the Split. In this book, while acknowledging his beliefs, he writes:
“(3) the belief that all those so-called Muslims who have not entered into his [i.e. Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad’s] Bai’at formally, wherever they may be, are Kafirs and outside the pale of Islam, even though they may not have heard the name of the Promised Messiah. That these beliefs have my full concurrence, I readily admit.”
— The Truth about the Split, Rabwah, 1965, pp. 55–56. The 2007 edition of this book is available on the Qadiani website from the link http://www.alislam.org/books/. See page 56 for this extract.
See original Urdu text below from the book A’inah-i Sadaqat [Urdu 1].
In this book, Mirza Mahmud Ahmad also gives a summary of his first article expressing these views which had earlier appeared in April 1911. He writes regarding this article:
“The article was elaborately entitled — ‘A Muslim is one who believes in all the messengers of God.’ The title itself is sufficient to show that the article was not meant to prove merely that ‘those who did not accept the Promised Messiah were deniers of the Promised Messiah’. Its object rather was to demonstrate that those who did not believe in the Promised Messiah were not Muslims.”
— pages 135–136 of the 1965 edition. In the 2007 online edition at http://www.alislam.org/books/ see page 144.
“Regarding the main subject of my article, I wrote that as we believed the Promised Messiah to be one of the prophets of God, we could not possibly regard his deniers as Muslims.” (pages 137–138 of 1965 edition; page 146 of online 2007 edition)
“…not only are those deemed to be Kafirs, who openly style the Promised Messiah as Kafir, and those who although they do not style him thus, decline still to accept his claim, but even those who, in their hearts, believe the Promised Messiah to be true, and do not even deny him with their tongues, but hesitate to enter into his Bai’at, have here been adjudged to be Kafirs.” (pages 139–140 of 1965 edition; page 148 of online 2007 edition)
“And lastly, it was argued from a verse of the Holy Quran that such people as had failed to recognise the Promised Messiah as a Rasul even if they called him a righteous person with their tongues, were yet veritable Kafirs.” (p. 140 of 1965 edition; page 148 of online 2007 edition)
See original Urdu text below from the book A’inah-i Sadaqat [Urdu 2].
According to these views, the only Muslims in the whole world at any time are those who have taken the bai‘at of the Qadiani leader of the time. In the last quotation above, the closing words given as “veritable Kafirs” are “pakkay kafir” in the original Urdu book A’inah-i Sadaqat. The word pakkay conveys the significance of ‘real, true, absolute and full-fledged’, meaning that all other Muslims are kafir in the fullest sense without the least doubt.
Views of M. Mahmud Ahmad’s brother Bashir
For the views of Mirza Bashir Ahmad, younger brother of Mirza Mahmud Ahmad, see this link.
Qadianis disallow funeral prayers for other Muslims.
Since the Qadiani belief is that all Muslims outside their community are non-Muslims, just like a Christian or a Hindu is a non-Muslim, the Qadiani leader Mirza Mahmud Ahmad forbade his followers from saying the funeral prayers of other Muslims. This instruction is given by him quite clearly and forcefully in his book Anwar-i Khilafat, published October 1916. At the end of the section where he deals with this question, Mirza Mahmud Ahmad writes as follows:
“Now another question remains, that is, as non-Ahmadis are deniers of the Promised Messiah, this is why funeral prayers for them must not be offered, but if a young child of a non-Ahmadi dies, why should not his funeral prayers be offered? He did not call the Promised Messiah as kafir. I ask those who raise this question, that if this argument is correct, then why are not funeral prayers offered for the children of Hindus and Christians, and how many people say their funeral prayers? The fact is that, according to the Shariah, the religion of the child is the same as the religion of the parents. So a non-Ahmadi’s child is also a non-Ahmadi, and his funeral prayers must not be said. Then I say that as the child cannot be a sinner he does not need the funeral prayers; the child’s funeral is a prayer for his relatives, and they do not belong to us but are non-Ahmadis. This is why even the child’s funeral prayers must not be said. This leaves the question that if a man who believes Hazrat Mirza sahib to be true but has not yet taken the bai‘at, or is still thinking about joining Ahmadiyyat, and he dies in this condition, it is possible that God may not punish him. But the decisions of the Shariah are based on what is outwardly visible. So we must do the same thing in his case, and not offer funeral prayers for him.”
— Anwar-i Khilafat, page 93 of original edition; underlining is ours.
This book is available online at the Qadiani website in the collection Anwar-ul-‘Uloom, v. 3, no. 5 from the link http://www.alislam.org/urdu/au/?j=3. See pages 150–151.
See original Urdu text below from the book Anwar-i Khilafat [Urdu 3].
It is quite clear and plain from these instructions that the Qadiani belief is that all other Muslims, including the children of those Muslims and even including those Muslims who believe in the truth of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad but have not taken the pledge to join the Movement, are unbelievers (kafir) and non-Muslims just as people of other religions such as Hindus and Christians.
Original Urdu texts of above quotations
Title page of first edition of A’inah-i Sadaqat:
Images below are from the online edition of A’inah-i Sadaqat at http://www.alislam.org/urdu/au/?j=6 (book no. 5). We have used red-lining to indicate the words being referred to.
Urdu 1:
(A’inah-i Sadaqat, p. 35 original edition; p. 110 online edition)
Urdu 2:
(A’inah-i Sadaqat, p. 84 original ed., p. 149–150 online ed.)
(A’inah-i Sadaqat, p. 85 original ed., p. 150 online ed.)
(A’inah-i Sadaqat, p. 86 original ed., p. 151 online ed.)
(A’inah-i Sadaqat, p. 86 original ed., p. 151 online ed.)
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Title page of first edition of Anwar-i Khilafat:
Urdu 3:
Anwar-i Khilafat, p. 93 original edition, p. 150–151 online edition. Image above is from the online edition of this book at http://www.alislam.org/urdu/au/?j=3 (book no. 5)
President declares Qadianis as non-Muslim
25 May 2002 Sunday 13 Rabi-ul-Awwal 1423
President declares Qadianis as non-Muslim
By Our Staff Reporter
ISLAMABAD, May 25: President Gen Pervez Musharraf has declared that anyone who has the faith against “Khatm-i-Nabuwwat” (that Holy Prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him) is the last prophet) is not a Muslim.
The president made this declaration, while responding to the points raised by some Ulema at the end of the National Seerat Conference held at a local hotel here on Saturday.
As the president was about to leave the dais, some Ulema rose from their seats and asked him to declare Qadianis as non-Muslims.
One of them said, “Mr President, the whole nation will support you if you declare that the joint electorate will be reversed to the separate one as it has led to strengthening the impression that it was aimed at violating the constitutional declaration about Qadianis.”
The president said, “We have to live in this world with certain policies as there are Hindus, Christians and other minorities living in this country as well.” He asked the religious leaders to show some tolerance in their reaction, “as we have to take along the whole world.”
The president said, “I have talked to a number of heads of Muslim states, including Mahatir Mohammad of Malaysia and Abdur Rahman Wahid, ex-president of Indonesia, and found that all of them have different point of view on these questions.”
He advised the Ulema not to give the world an impression that Islam was a rigid religion and to show magnanimity in their views.
Gen Musharraf, however, assured the Ulema that their views would be considered and given weightage at an appropriate stage. He said everyone had sentiments about their faith and “I am not behind in this from anyone of you.”
Federal Minister for Religious Affairs Dr Mehmud Ghazi told the people that the constitutional amendment declaring Qadianis as non-Muslims made in 1974 was still part of the constitution and it would remain so.
© The DAWN Group of Newspapers, 2000
Source: http://www.dawn.com/2002/05/26/nat12.htm
Steve qadiani,
here is a muslim site refutting your belief.
http://ahmadiyya.org/qadis/contents.htm
Refuting the Qadiani beliefs
The term Qadiani is used in this discussion, without any offence intended, to refer to the movement which developed under the leadership of the late Mirza Bashiruddin Mahmud Ahmad, based first at Qadian, India, till 1947, and then at Rabwah, Pakistan. Since 1984 it has been based in England after the then head, the late Mirza Tahir Ahmad, was forced to flee Pakistan.
Under the following topics, we refute some of the wrong beliefs of the Qadiani movement, and show that Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad himself never entertained any such views:
Introduction to how and why the Split in the Ahmadiyya Movement took place in 1914.
Read detailed history of the Split (in biography of Maulana Muhammad Ali):
Events of the Split
Founding of the Lahore Ahmadiyya Anjuman
Qadianis declare all other Muslims as being kafir and outside the fold of Islam.
Mirza Bashir Ahmad’s book declares other Muslims as kafir and non-Muslim in Islamic law.
But Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad regarded other Muslims as Muslims.
Qadianis establish an autocratic, despotic khilafat, contrary to the teachings of Islam and of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. Read the two topics below on Khilafat in the Ahmadiyya Movement:
Brief Review.
Detailed article with references.
Qadianis evade Maulana Muhammad Ali’s challenges to debate. (Read in biography of Maulana Muhammad Ali)
70 senior Ahmadis take oath that Hazrat Mirza did NOT change his claim from muhaddas to prophet.
Earlier beliefs of leading figures of the Qadiani Jama‘at that Prophet Muhammad is the Last Prophet and Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is Mujaddid of the 14th Century hijra and a wali (saint).
Qadiani contradiction in their own alleged date of change of claim
Mirza Mahmud Ahmad retreats from his belief about the “coming Ahmad” prophecy
Reply to Mirza Tahir Ahmad’s mubahila challenge
Views of Maulana Nur-ud-Din agree with Lahore Ahmadi beliefs
Theory of change in claim in 1901 invented by Maulana Sana-ullah of Amritsar
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To read a fully detailed refutation of the false Qadiani allegation that Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad claimed to be a prophet, please look up the topic on our Home Page entitled:
Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad did not claim to be a prophet.
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Mirza Mahmud Ahmad’s claim of being Muslih Mau‘ud:
When Mirza Mahmud Ahmad announced this claim in 1944, Maulana Muhammad Ali refuted it immediately. Read the following Friday Khutbas by Maulana Muhammad Ali:
4 February 1944: Vain desires are the opposite of practical action
18 February 1944: Mirza Mahmud Ahmad has made religion into a children’s game
3 March 1944: The Quran on those who ‘take their desires for god’
Mirza Mahmud Ahmad wrote in 1908 that the ‘Promised Son’ would not be actual son of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad
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Articles in past issues of ‘The Light’ about the Qadiani Movement:
Reply to a Letter from a Qadiani (1996, issue 3)
Qadiani beliefs refuted in Internet exchange (1996, issue 1)
Exaggeration of their numbers by the Qadianis (1995, issue 3)
Qadiani Statement falsifies the Promised Messiah (1995, issue 1)
Will Mujaddids come in future? Mirza Tahir Ahmad says “No”, but the Promised Messiah says “Yes” (1994, issue 6)
Calling Muslims as kafir. Refutation of a repugnant belief, by Maulana Muhammad Ali. (1993, issue 6)
Differences in belief of Lahore Ahmadis and Qadianis (1992, issue 4)
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Sworn declaration by Maulana Muhammad Ali:
“I, Muhammad Ali, head of the Lahore Ahmadiyya Jamaat, do swear that my belief is that Hazrat Mirza [Ghulam Ahmad] sahib of Qadian is a Mujaddid and the Promised Messiah, but not a prophet, nor can any person become a kafir or excluded from the fold of Islam by denying him. This was also the belief of Hazrat Mirza sahib. O God, if I have uttered falsehood in this oath taken in Thy name, then send upon me from Thyself such exemplary punishment as has no human hand in it, and from which the world would learn how stern and terrible is God’s retribution for one who deceives His creatures by swearing falsely in His name.”
Background to this sworn declaration. (Read in biography of Maulana Muhammad Ali)
well you may also watch this
SEE HOW THESE “VAGUE MIRACLES” ARE DEBUNKED:
http://youtu.be/GRJGaMlNYq8
Out of such a long list of critical analysis done by a Phd researcher, only one point u guys had to reply about poor one month old krishna and ur team is consoling and convincing each other, that he is right and that is right. I knew when u cannot digest the facts, the only option you guys have is to either: to change the topic or pick up ur same false allegation about islam by ur illogical/senseless/baseless issues or if nothing works simply attack with filthy words to the person (personally even when u don’t know about him) who exposes hinduism. dear representatives of agniveer, grow up and have guts to accept the real truth, otherwise, keep ur mouth shut. like hinduism (although not a religion at all) is dear to you, followers of other faiths too love their religion. try to bring people together and find similarities and find goodness in every religion so that you get rewarded in this life and hereafter, respected by other faiths etc unless, you believe according to hinduism it is a good deed to insult, degrade and make false allegations on other religion. May God show u the right path.
Steve, regarding your emphasis on “Phd researcher”, zakir is also MBBS, and we have seen how dismal is his knowledge about medical sciences !! Yes, you are right these allegations are illogical/senseless/baseless, but for for those madarsaa-bred semi-literates, devoid of analytical power.
Moreover, your hypocracy tickles me, coz’ the belivers of quran which advocates the slaying of non-muslims, raping their women, keeping them as sex-slaves is talking about finding goodness in other religion !! Interesting!! Oops! but your taqiya is caught Mr. Steve ( or whatever ur katuaa name is)
@Steve Qadiyani
We are not dealing with the Qadiyanis as they are not in our priority now, may be sometimes later we shall analyze your Qadiyani scriptures. But unless we do it, stay away from the discussion of Vedic Dharm and Islam. In the mean time, try to save your Qadiyani brothers, who are being bashed in their own mosques in Islamic countries like Pakistan!
@steve
ONE BIG miracle of koran you forgot to mention.
When that lecher prophet mohammed saw his daughter in law (bahu) zainab, nude in the bathroom, his desire was aroused.
Suddenly allah almighty (very conveniently) gave a revelation that his son must divorce his wife and get her married to his father.yOU CALL THAT WORD OF GOD? Lecher mohammed even made allah a lech.
What a miracle? HA HA
as usual and as expected, same attitude!!!!. how long do u keep cutting and pasting the same things over and over again? Why don’t u clear the allegations made by the Phd researcher instead of repeating the same issue again again even after receiving convincing replies to your allegations on others?. U r expert in vedas therefore, not only people of other faiths, even hindu brothers on this forum expects you to clear such allegations. only counting others’ mistakes will not help u hide your mistakes. First clear or accept your mistakes, then count others. Or else, I will see u closing this website very soon bcoz it is only hatred for others I see from u on this website. If u really are a good hindu, propagate hinduism with its good spirit rather than proving other faiths to be false. Only with goodness and truthfulness will you be able to run ur show otherwise, no body would stay here on this forum for longer with your arrogant attitude. Hoping to see u change. Now for heaven sake, don’t kick back the ball against zakir naik again to safe guard urself or cut and paste same allegations. Pls prove what you are, regardless of who is writing to you?.
STEVE YOU YOURSELF COPY PASTED SAME LINK IN MANY ARTICLES AND TELLING US WE ARE COPY PASTING.
EVEN FOR 1 SEC WE BUY YOUR ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT LORD KRISHNA AND LORD RAMA THEN ALSO HE IS BETTER THAN YOUR ALLAH AND PROPHET MOHAMMAD.
SEE THIS LINK FOR REFERENCE
THIS SITE.
http://sheikyermami.com/2008/03/30/coptic-priest-zakaria-boutros-exposes-the-philandering-muhammad/
@Steve
Hold on for some days, we will come with some interesting facts about your last prophet Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiyani.
SIMPLE LOGIC WILL EXPOSE THE HINDU CASTE SYSTEM PROPAGANDA OF CHRISTIAN/MUSLIM/COMMUNIST. RAMAYANA was written by VALMIKI who in present day context is DALIT he praised LORD RAM. LORD KRISHNA is from YADAV community who is OBC/SC in present caste system even Brahmins worship HIM without seeing his caste. SO HOW COME THERE IS CASTE SYSTEM IN HINDU RELIGION
STEVE BROTHER CHATERJEE PHD IS FOLLOWER OF PERIYAR WHO DISGUISED HIMSELF AS ATHEIST AND LOVER OF DRAVIDIAN NATIONALISM BUT IN REALITY PERIYAR WAS A BRITISH STOOGE A TRAITOR WHO TOLD DALITS OF INDIA NOT FIGHT FOR INDIA’S FREEDOM STRUGGLE AND THEY WILL GET CONCESSIONS FROM BRITISH BUT DR. AMBEDKAR AND MAHATMA GANDHI KICKED HIM SAID DALITS OR HARIJANS ARE NOT TRAITORS AND THEY WILL NOT TAKE HIS ADVISE .
IF PERIYAR WAS SUCCESSFUL IN HIS DESIGNS INDIA’S INDEPENDENCE WOULD BE DELAYED BY ANOTHER 30-40 YEARS.
PERIYAR WAS NEVER AN ATHEIST (HE WAS SUPPORTER OF ISLAM) AND PERSONALLY NEVER BELIEVED IN ARYN DRAVIDIAN THEORY OR DRAVIDIAN NATIONALISM IF HE WOULD HAVE BELIEVED IN DRAVIDIAN NATIONALISM HE WOULD NEVER HAVE TOLD “DRAVIDIANS” OR CHRISTIANS TO LEAVE THEIR “DRAVIDIANISM” OR CHRISTIANITY AND ACCEPT ISLAM.
CHATERJEE PHD IS FOLLOWER OF TRAITOR WHO WANT TO PUT MUD ON INDIAN CULTURE THAT IS WHY HE IS GIVING THIS BOOK FREE FOR CIRCULATION.
STEVE EVEN IF THE VERSES YOU HAVE GIVEN ARE TRUE they are just talk between Husband and wife. Sita is just a common woman who talked to her husband like a common woman. If your girlfriend or wife angrily calls you a Dog you do not became a dog that is just momentary fight.
STEVE EVEN YOUR PROPHET MOHAMMAD HIMSELF SUSPECTED THE CHARACTER OF “MOTHER OF BELIEVERS” AISHA AND AISHA herself accused Mohammad of considering her as animal using for lust.
PROPHET MOHAMMAD’s WIFE (BELIEVER’S MOTHERS) accuses Mohammad of becoming IMPOTENT in his later life. See this website for references.
http://www.islamfascism.com/new-page-72.htm
STEVE BROTHER you told Hindus try to show similarities between Islam and Hinduism and try build bridges RAVI SHANKAR tried to build that bridge by showing similarities between Hinduism and Islam But YOUR ZAKIR NAIK BLEW THAT BRIDGE.
STEVE BROTHER I GUESS YOU HAVE GOT ALL YOUR ANSWERS
FOOLISH STEVE DID IT AGAIN. In his theory he says SUKRIEVAN BECOMES GOLDEN DEER. FOOL it is not SUKRIEVAN it is Mareecha. These people do not know anything but want to write about Hindu Religion. STEVE AND HIS CHATERJEE Phd is fools who write anything.
SIMPLE LOGIC WILL EXPOSE THE HINDU CASTE SYSTEM PROPAGANDA OF CHRISTIAN/MUSLIM/COMMUNIST. RAMAYANA was written by VALMIKI who in present day context is DALIT he praised LORD RAM. LORD KRISHNA is from YADAV community who is OBC/SC in present caste system even Brahmins worship HIM without seeing his caste. SO HOW COME THERE IS CASTE SYSTEM IN HINDU RELIGION
omg this website is sooooooo full of SHIT…. its like more of a INDIA VS PAKISTAN war on this ….and absurd things about religions… many of which are purely based on misunderstanding and taking things out of context….
this is rather friggin boring for someone who is not from india or pakistan….
agniveer – GET A LIFE =)
ps stop advertising on facebook its sooooo annoying aargh
Bakvas or sirf bakvas. Its all just propoganda.
@Malik Suhayb Manzer
Sirji whats Bakwas in it , u think it bakwas because according to Quran you think its a Bakwas .. thiss is was you people will do through out life …
Assalamualaikum-wa-rehmatullahe-wabarakatoh ,
Almost every religion in the world teaches man to be good .
Every religion has basics which teach nothing but good .
If a representative from one religion chooses helpful facts from other religions or sects or wat-so-ever to spread it to the world (no matter what belief they have) , he probably just wants to spread wealthy knowlrge ! And yes , if its written in the Quranic verses why shudnt he refer to them . If the right information is written anywhere , he has full authority to share it , spread it . This is what research is !
I’m sorry to say , but articles like these are created when attention is not given to what is being said but who it is being said by – what religion ? what sect ? what cast ? –
These facts and figures are nothing useful !
Its not that Dr. Zakir Naik has some kind of plot to destruct our sub-concious minds . His words are a proof ! Whenever a person speaks , its from his words and body language that we know if theres any kinds of flaws present . And honestly apart from Dr. Zakir’s speach , its his confidence on his right research that make u have a feeling in the gut that ” Yes! The man is right ” .
Plus , he has never showed off about his research ! He might’ve done this just to prevent people from reading Maulana Abdul Haque’s book and changing their believes .
Personally I think the blame put on Dr. Zakir Naik is made up and very immaturely exagerated .
No offense .
The viewers of Dr.Zakir Naik and other scholars like him should try to concentrate more on the message their putting through and not on judging them as persons . And we should always keep in mind that these people are no superior than us . They are simple human beings , and have a right to make mistakes . Surely Allah (SWT) , the Almighty is always there to forgive us .
Assalamualikum .
I love the way you present your self….i wish you’d present a counter argument to agniveer too 🙁
all i see in your response is an appeal to authority ..no logical denial or refutation to the claims of agniveer
To all Muslim brothers & sisters on this forum: Great to see u all doing your best to convince or correct the allegations laid by this forum. Allah will definitely reward you for all this as you are doing your job. Criticism has been there since the time of our beloved Prophet Muhammad s.a.w. & the most of the critics themselves have turned to the path of Allah & His Messenger and became the strongest followers of Islam upon thorough study with true spirit. There are hundreds of such examples one of the greatest example is of Hazrath Umar raziallahutalla anhu. There were also few who were not been guided like Prophet’s uncle himself as an example. Even in today’s world we find hundreds of people from every profession intellectuals, scientists, celebrities………..etc who have accepted & are accepting Islam. We Muslims are at least born Muslims who may not be willing to deviate to other religion (in fact, this is not the reason, but the real truth is we know Islam is a true religion). But what about millions of non-muslims who are reverting to Islam?. We have to look into these facts bcoz they after having born into a non-muslim faith have compared, seen the difference, realized & then whole-heartedly accepted Islam. Besides doing our job of spreading the message of Islam, we should pray also to Allah s.a.w for them, that He guides them to the straight path (Ehdinas siratal mustaqeem). Inshallah, they will be guided with Allah’s will, if not, Allah says to such misguided “summum bukmun umiyun fahum la yarjiyoon” (Seeing they see not, hearing they hear not…….). Hazrath Umar raziallah hutala anhu was a strongest enemy of Rasul Allah than any of these, who went to kill our beloved Prophet but when he heard the Quran being recited by his own sister and bcoz of the Dua of our Prophet S.a.w., he was so guided that he entered into deen so much so that the Prophet himself said if there was any Rasool to come after Him, it should have been Umar raziallah hutala anhu. He was ready to die and sacrifice everything for the sake of Allah, His Messenger and for the cause of Islam. Look at his contribution towards Islam during his regime/khalifath, is even today considered as an exemplary role model by most of the historians, politicians, administrators etc.
This forum should be promoting Hinduism instead of criticizing other religions. But, it looks to me that to be able to uplift their religion, the forum is doing their best to bring down Islam with the help of anti-islamic websites and material available on-line. If at all they want to find mistakes, I let them do research on Quran and Sahi Hadees in a positive sense & asking the real God to show them the straight path & see what wonders the Quran (word of Allah s.w.t) will do to them on their heart & minds. Dr. William Cambell, who knew Arabic language, did challenged that there are many mistakes in Quran and wrote a book with all mistakes that even earned a reward for the best selling book of that year. When Zakir Naik bhai challenged and had a debate with him, he made him dumb struck on the stage, in his place, before his own people by logically and scientifically clarifying all his alleged mistakes and since then the very same book that use to sell like hot-cake was dumped in garbage in many stores after it lost its popularity. Anyways, what I mean to say is, we Muslims have Alhamdulillah done our job. There is no point in repeating the same again and again and waste our time here reading and arguing. This being the holy month of Ramadan, we should spend the same time reading, understanding and practicing what is written in Quran & making dua to Allah.
Agniveer knows that we all brother & sisters in Islam justified & clarified his criticism but due to egoism he is not ready to accept the truth and started to pretend like now he wants to be a Muslim and wants we Muslims to guide him to which sects of Islam he has to follow. This bureaucracy is played to bring rift amongst Muslims, wants us to argue between ourselves in the name of sects and he wish to sit in his place and enjoy us arguing. Which ever sect we belong to, we should not get caught into such evil & cunning intentions. He failed to understand that which ever school of thoughts we Muslims belong to our Allah, our Messenger & our Quran is ONE. He went up to saying that every sect has different Quran and we follow different Prophets and cunningly asks us which Quran and which Prophet he has to follow if he wants to become a Muslim? He thinks we Muslims are fools and we will get into the clutches of division and we would start fighting amongst ourselves in the name of sects. He is adopting the strategy of Shaitaan who is far cunning and intelligent than Agniveer & unfortunately we in India although sought independence from British, British have inherited in us the ‘Divide & Rule policy’ which people like Agniveer and politicians still follow. Agniveer doesn’t know that even if we belong to different sects and follow different school of thoughts, we all follow ONE Quran, ONE Prophet, and our God is ONLY ALLAH subhana wa tala.
Muslims is the one who submits his will to Allah. I urge Muslims to be united like Allah says in Quraan “HOLD ON TO THE ROPE (QURAN) OF ALLAH & DO NOT BE DIVIDED”. Our beloved prophet prophesized, there are going to be 72 sects. He did not say we should be divided into 72 sects. The one that goes to Jannah (heaven) will be the one who follows the tenets of Quraan & Sunnah of Prophet Muhammad sallalla hu alaihi wa sallam in all walks of his life, regardless of any school of thoughts he belongs to. All the four Imams/school of thoughts taught us the same that later if any of their preaching contradicts with the Quran and Sunnah, we should throw such preaching on the wall (meaning ignore such preaching by them & instead follow what Quraan & Sunnah teaches). Hence, any school of thought we follow, it is very essential that we refer to Quraan & Sunnah & follow only what Quran & Sunnah says & ignore any such beliefs and practices that goes against it. Only then will we Muslims be united & no doubt we all shall go to paradise. All attributions of Allah are of Love, Gracious & Mercy. He is the most Gracious & the most Merciful. Allah has just divided 1% of his Mercy & Love amongst his creation from which we show so much of our love and mercy to our relatives, friends & fellow beings. Imagine how much Allah Loves & has Mercy on us with 99% of Love & Mercy He kept for Himself?
Has anybody thought seriously about these Mullahs?. These bastards are the real enemy of islam and brought this mighty religion to its weakest state in history. Remember one thing if all our sects get to unite the whole world will be ours. However, these bastards are the only problem not letting us unite. It lets be a true mulling and follows the real islam without consulting these jews agents.
Love Allah, Love islam , Love muhammad ……….guys praise the cretor not the creation
ASSALAMU ALAIKUM, FIRST OF ALL DR.ZAKIR NAIK CLAIMS THAT HE IS STUDENT OF COMPARITIVE RELIGION. WE ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING FOR ISLAM. HOW MANY OF US CONVEYED OUR MESSAGE OF ISLAM TO OTHER BROTHERS. HE IS DOING IT MORE THAN ANYBODY IN THIS WORLD. IF HE SAYS SOMETHING FROM SOMEBODY’S BOOK, THEN IT IS YOUR DUTY TO COMPARE IT WITH QURAN AND HADIS. DO WE KNOW EVERYTHING IN QURAN AND HADIS. IF WE KNOW ALSO WE CANNOT SAY EXACTLY WHAT IS THE RIGHT WAY. BECAUSE IN OUR HADIS THERE ARE DIFFERENT TYPES OF MESSAGE IN SOME OF THE HADIS. ARE WE BELONGING TO OUR BELOVED PROFETS TIME TO CLARIFY THAT. WE DO EVERYTHING IN A HOPE THAT ALLAH WILL FORGIVE US IF WE DO ANYTHING WRONG BECAUSE OF INNOCENCE. SO WE SHOULD NOT FIND FAULT WITH OTHERS ALWAYS. PLEASE ACCEPT THE CONTRIBUTION FROM ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO SPREAD THE MESSAGE OF TRUTH FROM ALLAH. AND ALSO WE HAVE TO PROPOGATE THE MESSAGE OF TRUTH TO OUR OTHER BROTHERS. IT IS SHAME THAT WE ARE FIGHTING WITH EACH OTHER BEFORE OTHER BROTHERS. SHAME ON US. NO BODY KNOWS EVERYTHING. WE ALSO KNOW LITTLE. IF ANYTHING WE SAID IS WRONG THEN WE HAVE TO ANSWER REGARDING IT TO OUR ALLMIGHTY. ARE WE DARE TO ANSWER OUR ALLMIGHTY. WHAT WE KNOW RIGHT WE HAVE TO SAY. WE CANNOT SAY SOMEBODY AS KAFIR. WHO GAVE THE AUTHORITY TO SAY SO. IF WE SAY SOMEBODY LIKE THAT AND IF THAT PERSON IS REALLY GOD CONCIOUS THEN WE HAVE TO ANSWER OUR ALLMIGHTY. ARE WE PREPARED. WE HAVE TO GO TO OUR BASIC. THERE IS NO ALLMIGHTY OTHER THAN ALLMIGHTY HIMSELF AND MUHAMMAD (PEACE BE UPON HIM) IS THE MESSANGER OF ALLMIGHTY. I AM SORRY IF I HURT ANYBODY. ASSALAMU ALAIKUM.
ZAKIR NAIK IS DOING A GOOD JOB>>MAKING PEOPLE REALISE THE IMPORTANCE OFGOOD HUMAN BEING>>>>YOU PEOPLE ARE AFRAID OF HIM AND MAKING ALLEGATIONS>>>>THIS WEBSITE AND MANY OTHERS ARE PAID PROPAGANDA MACHIEN TO DEFAME MUSLIMS IT SEEMSS>>>SHAME SHAME SHAME>>>>>HEY RAM KAYA HOGAYA HAI HUM HINDUOAN KO>>>
zakir naik should take part in jhalak dikhlaja dance competition and his smile is like mahishashur.poor michael jackson also danced to the tune to these people and rest is history.(in one of his shows he just said lord krishna has 160108 wives and mocking him and all those muslims were laughing .the same bhagvata also tells that lord krishna is god almighty and he is making fun of allah).you can buy vedas, bhagvata , gita, mahabahrata from isalmic researh foundation printed in afganishtan and pakistan.they can turn any god into a porn star.it is from this book that he gives quations from
mr waqar bhai has forgotten that it is afganisthan supplying drugs to the world.and all the sex trade in the world is taking place to satisfy the saudi seikhwho are interested in just one thing.allah has already punished them and also punishing them for the crimes they commited against these women.and for attacking INDIA.afganisthan is battered ,pakistan is living on bheek, iraq is gone and the next number is of iran,oman and baharin are thriving but for how long.israel with population equal to that of delhi has yad dilaoed their nani.after 50 years all the oil rich conries will again become bhikmanga and roam aroun in chaddis and we shuold take gyan from these people.
the pakistanni sunnis are regularly bombing their shias and that too in their mosque and they are preaching about their faith in allah.
what unity atleast the varios sects of hinduism dont bomb each other
zakir naik is more of a cartoon character to be taken seriously .if you are fed up of daily comedy sops any time you can tune to zakir bhais peace tv urdu.you can see him dancing better than michael jackson.he looks more like an ostrich.i belive he is the mega star of the millenium.
zakir naik gives information on medical sciences and hex amine proteins.just check where did he get his munna bhai degree from.he is also giving jhappi to heal people.medical fraternity is enlightened by the gyan he gives.soon you will get diagnosis for tb, cancer, etc from quran.he is doing so g8 service for mankind and you are not taking him seriously
You people are late,Dr. Zakir has already done a great job for Islam.We do not care whether he copied ,paste word to word from somebody’s work.At least we are concerned about the knowledge he imparted to the millions of Muslims and Non-muslims.You people are just trying to diminish his image.But, what you don’t konw is this man has done what he did for abundant reward from Allah(S.W.T..).we are aware of people like you who are always after the lapses of good personalities to destry their fame.Mind you. if you are non muslim i wouldn’t be surprised to hear this from you.But, if you are, i doubt much about your ‘Imaan’.Nonetheless.if you like you can fill the whole size of your country saying bad things about this man,we will always consider your report as ‘HASADAH’.
Zakir Naik is kanjar Yajeed ki aulad. He is ajent of Mirza Gulam Ahmad Qadiyan. He will burning in hell Inshaallah and all his suporter also burning in hell.
HINDUS NOT BELIVE IN ZAKIR NAIK. HE IS GUSTAKH E RASUL. COME TO ISLAM IF YOU ARE WANT TO SAVE FROM FIRE OF HELL. READ QURAN AND HADITH FOR KNOW ABOUT ISLAM BUT NOT TRUST KANJAR ZAKIR ANIK AND KAFIR QADIYANS.
@ Yusuf
I enjoyed your pervert Comment. It is so pitiable that it does not deserve any SANE person’s anger, rather We should laugh at this state of Ultimate idiocy and SELF-DEFEATIST Attitude.
You people keep on getting fooled by that Ultimate Moron, and we guys will keep on thanking Zakir Naik for giving us a REGULAR DOSE OF COMEDY and that “sacred” Knowledge (Ops, Did U call that “Knowledge”) !!!
Why not suggest Naik to open up his own 24 hr Comedy channel, he has the “Looks” as well as the “Material”. I assure you at least Hindus will be his regular audience always yearning for that DOSE OF LAUGHTER ON HIS SLAPSTICK COMEDY.
Why not hindus open up some tv channels and redefines hinduism and the teachings of Vedas , because Naik is just taking the advantage of the ignorance of hindus. So we all need to take steps to defend this logically. Whatever Naik is mentioning against hiduism and its scripture are wrong and need to correct his views.
Dear Subhrata, Instead of claiming Zakir to be wrong , why dont you people prove the quotes given by him are wrong .. prove the quotes with the meaning wrong and you win the case .. Why u people are creating a websiter like this and inviting peopl for all kinds of stupid comments and unnecessary discusions.. bring the truth and comdemn him. Even we muslim will help you ..
And if you people cant , then accept the Oneness of God Almighty and the concept of judgement instead of crores of gods and sansara ..
And more logically the concepts advocated by Zakir are maent for instilling a God’s fear in a human being and ur view lets people enjoy the life and live at its own and creates the feeling of Enjoy.. and thats y u see an average hindu doesnt mind taking bribes, gables and drinks on festivals, women are dresed more exposedly and children foeicide are common in Rajasthan , haryana . and so on whereas a general muslim follows the moral rincipals advocated by Vedas …
And to tarnish the image of us u guys get only one point terrorism .. wich is a false agenda created by anti God people who wnt the world believe in multi god ideology .. Had the muslim been terrorist , why re the still in the no of 18% in India and not in 100% after 1000 years of rule and why did they not killed all christians in spain after the rule of 800 years …They always won the country and lived there considering it there own and not for looting and going back to their own homeland as english .. and they never attacked any afghanistan or Iraq for oil, gas stating terrorism.. or they ne never backed a false propaganda of israel like country to dispel people of there own land .. Muslims have always been harmony filled race but it all started when RSS mentaity came in ur text books ..
So its hightime .. read the scriptures and take either side .. and if u cant prove him wrong , then take the side of zakir naik or say Islam , as I must mention that in God’s view ,its a heineous crime to make him partner with 2 -3 0r crores of god its like considering your father more than one … I am sure if you spread the multi father theory of your own father he will definetly punish you like the God has dictated in all religeous books , be it veda , quran ..or bible//
We r not converting u but v r spreading the message for ur benifit .. our god will noot send us to jannat if we convert one hindu .. he merely says just spread the messqage while following it , guiding an individual is in MY hands .. so our responsibility ends by stating that Allah is ONE and the Prophet MOHAMMAD (may peace be upon him)came here to set a standard way of life which we have o folow.. nothing more than nothing less than this ..
Hope u will research in the wAY OF TRUTH ..aMEEN
@gulrez:
Here is one reason why Islam is dangerous.
You have 2 options here:
(a)Come out against Shariah law which says punishment for apostasy is death. So, you would be disagreeing with the bearded Mullah in the video.
(b)Support the death penalty for apostates.
Let me know where you stand if you are interested in taking this conversation further. Dont beat about the bush.
Ok, now that was a rhetorical question. I know you are going to choose option (b). I am going to watch with amusement the mental gymnastics you are going to perform now to justify your position. Why did the Most Merciful/Benevolent Allah give these apostates free will to become apostates? Your time starts ….. Now!
my friend , Islam is a very beautiful religion mashallah and it talks about the whole humanity as its benificiaries.. And thus it has revealed certain ways to be folowed to achieve the blessings and generocity of the Allah almighty such as prayer, fasting , abstaining away from the evil things of society and following a cordial relationship with the neighbours … And prophet mohammad Peace be upon him has guided us by following himself at first and during the process he never asked for material gains or fame..And that is what we muslim aspire to attain in our life so that we can cherish the beauty of paradise …. along with him.
But there are some unfortunate muslims who couldnot understand the meaning of this self descipline and couldnot follow the simplicity way and turn their backs from the religions and want to be a part of the “” normal trends” or “fashion” so allah says in Quran in 16:106,
“Any one who, after accepting faith in God, utters Unbelief,- except under compulsion, his heart remaining firm in Faith – but such as open their breast to Unbelief, on them is Wrath from God, and theirs will be a dreadful Penalty. This because they love the life of this world better than the Hereafter: and God will not guide those who reject Faith. Those are they whose hearts, ears, and eyes God has sealed up, and they take no heed. Without doubt, in the Hereafter they will perish.”
And my friend maternal gains are not the ultimate gain of human race .. this is what an animal looks for . eat sleep and enjoy .. what a man deserves a more moralistic wAY of life where he is worshipping Allah 24×7 , by practical worship , or by interracting with his family or by meting professionally with his colleagues and clients … Maintaining a highest standard of morals and ethics is the ultimate gain of a muslim and that is what is the order by allah .. and in return He provides an eternal peace of mind , respect among each other , affection in the relatoships, and material gains as per your requirement and necessatiy.. and moreover all this money that you will gain wil not be wasted in the form of stealing or loosing or spending in a wrong way.. it will keep giving you a proper support …
So my friend , praying allah helps a human being in all walks of his life which is benificient to us only and has nothing to do with Allah. So when some muslim by name converts to some other ways of life he is moving out of the path of his own benificient future… So Allah conveys this verse to tell his punishment but nowhere it mentions the killing or any bad behaviour with anyone …in this world by any muslim .
By not practicing islam he is just like any non muslim for us and Allah says if we kill any human aprt from batlefield , we kill the whole humanity .. so the punishment will be on us ….
And he further says Quran .. your religion is yours and my religion is mine .. Everyone has the freedom to follow his reigion but its mandatory for a muslim to spread the message of islam , the message of oneness of allah , the benefits of islam , the everlasting punishment of not believing in one Allah … rest is in between Allah and that person … by the way of self following …and not by pressurising .
And that whats I am doing friend .. read Quran and analyse what it says about the different subject that u have been told in the wring contexts … and analyse how beautifully Allah almighty invites the whole world for one ness of creator .
I must mention here that There are some instances where people who have left islam have shown disrespectfulness and have mede very wrong comments and have degraded islam and thus allah says i quran that they must be punished in one of a few methods that can be debated in a court with witnesses and lawyers ..
which any religion will never tolerate . If tomorrow I start abusing the gods of any religion and definetly the person will first hit me or might attack me further ..So its not at all wrong
But I must say that there are some instances where people have beved with converts in a non islamic way while mentioning islam and quran as their support , it must be understood that Allah is very just and he gives the full due of each other in this world and the heareafter. No one can escape by being muslim alone .. The rules are for everyone .. So we must fear Him to the core …
Hope it all sorted it out …
You can always mail me at [email protected] for any other question like as
1)Are only muslims havethe right to go to jannat as per Quran ?
2)Should a muslim kill a kafir straightaway..?
3)wil we get a 72 virgin jannat by killing a non muslim
4)women are a tool of leisure in Quran ?
etc .. etc .. i will inshallah try to portray islam in the best possible manner …
@gulrez
Namaste Gulrez,
Will your BEAUTIFUL THOUGHTS about your BEAUTIFUL ISLAM still remain the SAME after this BEAUTIFUL VIDEO?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64V09tTIjR4
indeed, ISLAM is v.beautiful. especially after watching this video i agree with gulrez 😉
@gulrez:
Sprinkling your posts with liberal doses of “my friend” is not going to work. You are NOT my friend when you believe I am going to hell for not believing in the same BS that you believe in. You are a religious supremacist and you ought to be condemned the same way racial supremacists are condemned.
See, you are already doing gymnastics. You could so easily have said death sentence for apostasy is wrong. But instead you wrote a long piece of garbage to try and justify it. When will you people grow up and become a part of human civilization?
Namaste gulrez
———–my friend , Islam is a very beautiful religion mashallah and it talks about the whole humanity as its benificiaries———-
1. What if I call- you are worst of creatures?
2. What if I attack your home, kill you, take away your sisters, wife, daughters, mother as my sex slave, distribute them among my soldiers and then sell them to market/brothel?
3. What if I marry your 6 year old daughter?
4. What if I force you pay “Mlechchha Kar” for being Muslim and thus non hindu in India?
———-And my friend maternal gains are not the ultimate gain of human race .. this is what an animal looks for . eat sleep and enjoy .. what a man deserves a more moralistic wAY of life where he is worshipping Allah 24×7———-
You correctly pointed out that material gains are not the ultimate gain of HUMAN race but they are ultimate for MUSLIMS. The sawaab of worshipping Allah 24X7, fasting, hajj is all the MATERIALISTIC jannat filled with houris with big bosoms, transparent cloths and bodies, free from the filth of menses, offering themselves to Momins to be enjoyed, rivers of wine and what not. So it is clear that MUSLIMS ARE NOT HUMANS. Right?
—————I must mention here that There are some instances where people who have left islam have shown disrespectfulness and have mede very wrong comments and have degraded islam and thus allah says i quran that they must be punished in one of a few methods that can be debated in a court with witnesses and lawyers ..—————
O stop Taqiyya master! Enough of you now. Islam orders to kill APOSTATE (the one who has left Islam). Nowhere it is mentioned that he should be killed only when he shows disrespect. In fact leaving islam is itself considered as disrespect, got it?
And i give the answers to the questions righthere, no need to share your email
1)Are only muslims havethe right to go to jannat as per Quran ?
Yes
2)Should a muslim kill a kafir straightaway?
Yes, a Muslim will not be punished for killing a kafir
3)wil we get a 72 virgin jannat by killing a non muslim
yes, the one is called ghazi who fights kafirs in the battle field, and ghazi is assured jannat of highest quality
4)women are a tool of leisure in Quran ?
Not only leisure, but many times a commodity which can be sold or purchased in the exchange of animals like horses and camels
Put all the questions about islam in your mind here. You will be answered.
My dearest friends ,
There is a one more video on you tube
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=shankaracharya+speaks+about+islam&aq=1
where a shankaracharya goes great length on describing how great religion is Islam.. So its all upto where u want to obtain the inspiration for islam . from not so known people who claim to speak on islam without mentioning the references .. or u wANT TO GO THROUGH THE QURAN AND HADEETH , ALL AVAILABLE ONLINE TO MAKE SURE WHAT IS RIGHT …its upto u ..
By making claims u cant do anything against islam but u definetly avoid an opportunity to analyse what is truth or what is false .. currently the whole western world is after muslims and creating a euphorea ,, nad making them scapegoats , enjoYing THE OIL AND NATURAL GAS RESOURCES without the interferences of anyone and more cunningly they have placed bribed presidents and dictators in all muslim countries who pose n questions and threats ..so there is no answer to this attack except by the likes of zakir naik or the people like me who keep answering the qs which are the most hateful craps .. creation of people who have been brought up on rss text books and cnn news …
well, its not making any harm to me or to my religion , I am following my religion and islam is also growing at its own greater speed .. despite having false claims of twin tower atacks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-0Ms7mId34
and false attacks on iraq for the oil
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUpnqkmILpw&feature=related
But my dear friend , my question remains after 4 days , do you people or the maulana in the video has any concrete quran reference to proove ur claim , if not hen go throught he book , available online and make even a single comment which goes against the humanity .. and if not then , please make sure .. what path you hindus are moving on ..
U dont read vedas so obviously dont follow it as mentioned here in arya samaj
http://www.aryasamajmississauga.com/history.html
And neither read quran to understand and start criticizing it on the unbaked news available from cnn or your preferred resources…
So, you are hanging , moving nowhere.. It could be a laughing stoke ,for a immature person but its a point of a serious discussion and worriness.. A whole generation is being befooled by the pandits and pujaris and they dont want to go throught he books and are making comments basd on their reasoning and knowledged provided by everchanging resources and unproved facts ..
choice is yours .. remain in darkness.. and keep criticising islam and muslims and keep feeling satisfied or read the books toknowwhat is the truth ….
We muslims have been alloted a responsibility to spread the message which we are doing since ages and now also , wheather you change thepath , it altogehter depends upon ur conscience , which if , will be repentive , THe creater will guide u or if it will be boasting and egoistic , the god , Allah or ishwar will not let the light be with u and you will end up making some more abusive , abrasive comments aginst the religion and will move on .. but i will have sympathy for u all .. asthe path propagated by islam is very simple …
Except that allah is one and not in no., and not in any shape,
Live a righteous life with highest moral values,
Have patience in all difficultiesand pray allah for any problem , and praise allah for any good thing
And finally spread the message
these four conditions are set aside by islam to enter jannat .. and not killing or raping women ,…And al those who dont follow this will enter hellfire , it could be a muslim by birth but not by virtue .. so practice of religion is a must ..
hence you must undersand we muslim dont consider nonmuslims a worst creature but a person with less knowledge and try to spread the message …
May the almighty Guide you to the path of light ..
Namaste Gulrez
Just watch this video to know that Islam is the religion of BARKING DOGS 🙂
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdKEWyCyfxs
And being a typical Dawah Mullah, you chose not to answer what I asked, which I ask here again
1. What if I call- you are worst of creatures?
2. What if I attack your home, kill you, take away your sisters, wife, daughters, mother as my sex slave, distribute them among my soldiers and then sell them to market/brothel?
3. What if I marry your 6 year old daughter?
4. What if I force you pay “Mlechchha Kar” for being Muslim and thus non hindu in India?
You correctly pointed out that material gains are not the ultimate gain of HUMAN race but they are ultimate for MUSLIMS. The sawaab of worshipping Allah 24X7, fasting, hajj is all the MATERIALISTIC jannat filled with houris with big bosoms, transparent cloths and bodies, free from the filth of menses, offering themselves to Momins to be enjoyed, rivers of wine and what not. So it is clear that MUSLIMS ARE NOT HUMANS. Right?
Islam orders to kill APOSTATE (the one who has left Islam). Nowhere it is mentioned that he should be killed only when he shows disrespect. In fact leaving islam is itself considered as disrespect, got it?
@Gulrez
Namaste,
Interesting video about the Shankaracharya, but guess what, this stupid video is outdated. Can you please tell me who is this MUSLIM person dressed up as a shankaracharya and how much did you pay him? What about the Arya Samaji president, how much did you that person? Did you know your own mentor Naik has committed shirk and has slapped all the teachings of islam right on its face by bringing in your so called hindu leaders??
Vedic Dharma is the only true monotheistic faith, but islam is polytheism because I have to believe in more than one entity. First one is of course Allah, which I have no problem believing with, but then I also have to believe in Mohammad, Adam, Noah, Abraham, Jesus, Moses, Lot (who slept with his own daughters), and many more. So I am sorry my belief is only for God only, no one else.
Answer a simple question of mine>
Why is the Quran contradictory in the matter of tauheed?
my dear friends ,
No matte what i convey to u , you are laced with the ill feelings for a religion which is spreading only the truth of almighty .. and Allah need not any support of testimony of gulrez zakir or shankaracharya .. he can do it with anyone … the first and foremost is Quran ..
I have only one answer to all your queries //read quran and decide wheather ur teachers are right or not …
the scientific discoveries made 1400 years ago in quran here are good enough to believe that the book was revealed by the creator who clearly mentions that the tauheed is the first thing he wants to listen from his creation and if not then non believers will face hellfire and will be mocked hereafter and will remain in hellfire …
http://islam.about.com/library/weekly/aa092300a.htm
Allah says in chapter 41:53
We shall now show them Our signs in all the directions and within their own selves until it becomes clear to them that it is certainly the truth; is not your Lord sufficient as a Witness over all things?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w0y8TpNZzs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgXFuKvaG7o&feature=related
Remember my friends, On the day of judgement .. Allah will ask you , were u not told about the oneness of allah and the lifestyle portayed by Prophets , like Jesus, moses , mohammad (peace be upon all them )and the you cant ignore , because this is what is the truth .. which u know now , and now if u without analysing , studying ignore it , mock it , insult it .. all is between you and allah .. Its his religion and he will make the importance of respecting the truth in his own manner .. I have fulfilled my respnsibility and I pray you come on the path of truth ..
hence I finish and lets meet on the day of judgement ..inshallah ..
And for my impatient friend, the qs u posted have one standard answer… no religion teaches hatred , and its people who behave fanaticm … which can be hindus (gujrat)christians (Afghanistan) or jews (Palestines ) or muslims (u know the reference better).. So dnt bame the source of light if some ill spirited person comes in its manner ..
And jesus moses are the innocent humans who were chosen by Allah to spread the message .. they were guided through an angesGebrael Alaihisalaam .. and then further guided to their people .. but unfortunately their tribes considered them god as u considered rama krishna as god and started paying maoney to temples for visiting them instead of following their life style ..
Ifu will repent , Allah will guideu else ur eyes and mind will remain blocked with darkness..
All the best
but yes my only request , stop bowing down to idols , stop making images of gods, stop insulting other religions ..
@Gulrez
My dear Gulrez, your kind merciful benevolent Allah has sealed my heart from entering islam. Now, what can I do if He predestined my fate to be a kafir and burn in hell? Why did Allah not reveal the Quran to me instead of Mohammad?
Please keep these jokes to yourself henceforth, they only increase our laughter nothing more
We will extinguish your hell fire, so dont you worry about us, we do not even panic from childish fairy tales like that. Hell Fire……………Good Joke
Before lecturing others on idols, please go and break that kaaba of yours into pieces if and only if you are a true NON IDOLATOR, I do not like it when muslims bow before some idol like that.
Brothers Vik and Gulrez
@Vik
nice reply!
@Gulrez
Here is the miracle of Allah in which He made Muslims the barking dogs and thus suggested that never be a Muslim otherwise I will make you dog 🙂
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdKEWyCyfxs
Thanks for being humble and realising that U people are different than muslims ….and hence deserve a difernt destiny…
But I must tell you last time ..what is the history of religions as perislam …which might connect all of us ..
its not meant for putting my views but persuing the truth which is long hidden from the generations ..
Allah created the gins , Demons made of smoke andgave a free will and made angels made oflight with restricted will .. and then made human made of dust with again a free will.. and declared to all creation that man is superior to all as it possessed the knowledge of all things so bow it to him but the leader of jin, satan didnot follow it and argued so he was expelled from the heaven and kept trying lure human couple from following allah by letting them eat forbidden fruit of the garden of heaven .. finally he succeeded so allah gave the punishment to adam and eve along with their forthcoming offsprings that they have to leave for Earth and live a restricted life with sorrows and pain and having no memory of this world will be resurrected one day where their result of actions , good or bad will be done and hence whoesoever would have followed the path of allah , the moralistic and right mode of worship , will come back to heaven and others wil go hellfire .. and to guide us , allah will send some messangers in this eath with revealed books . and thus we see a lot many messangers mentioned in all middle eastern religions jews , christians and then in islam , describing the same history but differed in one critical point ,that is tauheed .. belief in one creator ..
Jews the folowers of one person juda , thus called judaism religion followers , who have been send the most no of mesgengers ike moses , david and solemn .. etc in the history of human kind as the god says in bible. They says God is one , but one day he will reincarnate to guide them to the superpower and they will rule the world ..hence tey have already built a temple boundary in jerusalem and are expecting a revival in the next 8-10 years ,
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/108400/jewish/The-End-of-Days.htm
Tey call him messiah , so considering a fture man birth as god is not monotheism , it is idolatery , as the personality of god , the creator of galxies and sun and earth is so big that he need not to take birth and die and go through all the phases of life .. he can provide a mere change of mind or conditions by a command . so its wrong to worship a man as incarnation of god ..so we muslim say the person going to take birth is one messiah but not god ..
Now in christianity , these peple were reviously jews but god send another messanger jesus to tell tat one more messanger will come , the final one , so be ready and wait for it and dont get astrayed .. and I will return to follow him in the End times and will let god rule the world And he will be called messiah , another messiah ..
thus he went up in the heavens later a few years .. but the prevailing jews who did not ike the idea created a mis interpretation tat he was talking about a holy spirit to come and is to be brought in the human body by concentrating when one needs god’s assistance and then jesus will revive in his mind and then god will help him .. thus it is called trinity , using three personalities to seek one God’s help.. which is aginst monotheism ..
And they believ Messiah the jesus is gonna come back and ruele the world , along with jews as their partners ..
And islam says … God is one .. he sent many messangers through out world , in all the times and people misunderstood them as incarnation of god so he is here to tell the truth last time . with the revealed book … read it and wait for the alst time , jesus will come and will guide u a tthe time when there will be to much chaos .. and non believing of god ..
So this is concept … And Noah(may pase be upon all the abve messangers ) was the another ore important messanger who came after adam and saved the world with all the species and the sacred books of the previous time in an arc , floating in the water….
This time is mentioned in bible, jews books , and quran and finally in vedas … As manu ..work
“As for the Flood, since more than 250 versions of it have been recorded worldwide – indicating a common human ancestry (which is supported genetically, via mitachondrial DNA) – it is to be expected that India would also have its own version. Indeed it is given in the Vedas (the Indian equivalent of the Old Testament). Thus Kersten (p. 52):
The gods had decided to cleanse the world with an enormous flood, but Manu, the great seer and sage, was to be exempted in order to preserve the human race. The god Vishnu thereupon took on an earthly incarnation for the first time as an avatar, in the form of the fish Matsya, and revealed himself to Manu on the bank of a river. The fish warned Manu that the earth was soon to be submerged, and that everyone living on it would perish. He ordered the sage to build a ship to carry himself and his family, as well as the seven great Rishis (seers), the seed of every plant, and one pair of each kind of animal. And he was also to take the Vedas, to ensure that the sacred texts were preserved.
Just as the construction of the ship was completed, the great rains began, the rivers burst their banks, and Vishnu as the fish positioned himself at the prow of the boat, his horn above the water. Manu fastened a rope to the horn, and the fish pulled the ship safely through the raging elements until they found shelter on the peaks of the Himalayan mountains (cf Genesis 6-8). The Vedic Flood lasted 40 days – a duration that coincides exactly with that described in the account of the Flood in Genesis.
The Indian account distinguishes between the hero’s family and seven sages; whereas according to the Genesis account, Noah’s saved family members numbered seven (with Noah being the eighth). Noah was, according to St. Peter (2 Peter 2:5) “the eighth preacher of righteousness”.
The Indian hero takes on board also the sacred Vedic texts; just as Jewish tradition has it that Noah took on board the Ark the sacred records of his ancestors (or toledôt).
In one account of the Flood in Polynesia “the hero is”, according to Kersten (p. 52), “even called Noa”.
http://genesisflood.blog.com/2010/02/08/manu-as-the-indian-version-of-noah/
SO the point mentioned here is all the religions are from one god’s messangers , and share the same basic belief and same history but the laders have preached that one is superiorthan othrs .. and this time its sislam who is trying to make them stand together using the books which is notbeing accepted by the fanatics and are creating furore …
but the truth has to be there and will prevail.. as the quran which talks about in numerous scientific discoveries , which we came to know recently proves itself that it s a god’s word and mohammad pbup.. was his messanger.. and allmen has to get united with one way of worship …
which is not a negativeide.. hence i am pressurising u people to analyse , readand reearch wht is trut …
And as far as about abraham , and all are concerned in history , I must come back to the history of religion …. So after noag who savedworld from flood .. passed away and people set back in their lives with worshipping these people only .. so there came abraham and made kaba and his two sons brought the generations of one god followers in middle east .. and same time .. vedas were being preached in india …
do the two sons of abraham ismael and ishaaq had their tribes in existance .. and the so of ismael , elder brother had yaqoob or jacob who had 1 children .. the eldest brothe huda was very negative and wanted to rule as a mesanger but couldnot coz god chosen his youngest brothe joseph and benjamin .. so he created his own religion hudaism or judaism and the followers are jews .. and god send so many messangers to them and told them to spread the message of truth to all tribes in the world .. but the y kept all the secrets with them and claimed to be a choosen people .. so God send jesus pbuh, with a message of another forth coming prophet who was finally able to spread the message and after him no more prophet has to come so its the responsibility of muslims to convey the truth and spread the message and tell the people that
Allah is one .. there is no partner to him .. He made the world to test us , our loyality for him and not for enjoying it .. for the njoyingthere is paradise .. u will get all u se here, hoorein, wine and all golden jewellary and all beautiful places for each of us but dont run for them here ,… its a test for u to believe in unseen , to follw the books who u havent seen writing .. have te ultimate faith in some one who is watching u .and refrain urself from sns .. and if u do u will win a place in heaven else will go to hellfire . thats is .. and the people who never told u the truth , jews , are again misleading u …Allah dispersed them in 70 AD by romans because they didnot follow jesus pbuh and didnot spread the message of allah also and let them scatter till 1948 they made israel .. andnow he is cursing muslim because for past 200 years we arein the luxuries of this world and are not spreading the truth …and whosoever is honest form heart .. will definetly find thid touching to him and will do some research .. and will go through the books , vedas and quran and will cross check wheather are they matching or not …is the verse quoted by zakir true or not , manu’s and noah story resemble or not , garun puran description of post death matches with islamic post death literature matches or not …
do it my friends , and believe it , we are not converting u .. we are spreading the message .. the conversion is in god’s hand .. he does it with who repent therir sins , even a backbiting , abusing , stealing and saying jokes for god is a sin .. ask for repentance .. and he will guide you to the path …
And this last mail of mine my let you know about the future written in the books as well…
Vedas says a vishnu incarnation has to come .. who will guide us
Jews says a messiah will come to let them rule the world
Christin says jesus will come to revive their soul and they will live forever here..
And finally muslims says .. Allah will send a final and the most confusing test for human being , a test from where he will distinguish who really believe in him and who believe in the worldly pleasures.. This will be called anti christ or dajjal. During his time , the knowledge of allah wil be like a black ant on black rock in dead block dark room .. so whosoever will follow Allah’s / God’s books honestly will be able to differntiate .. else will follow the trends ,, Like we say pre marriage sexual relation is a norm , gay relnp is ok , bribe is ok , even for colleges, if u r rich , u r respectered , loan is ok even for a washing machine , king lacs of people is ok just for one person ..(afghanistan)
Women are dressed and nude simultaneously.. sex between the relationships …
And finally the dajjal wil appear and will carry food and water with him at a time when there will be too much cjahaos , fighting , drought of three years .. and this time whoesoever witll accept food from hi, wil have to accept him as god else he will kil … So this person will claim to be messiah or christ and hindus will call him vishnu awtar .. but he will reighn for 37 days when the actual christ will apear , the jesus christ and will kill him and will prevail the religion of one god as per the scriptures but thill so far al those who are hyppocratics or wrong believer of muslims also will be covered by dajjal and will be a part of his group…
so my friend u see the todays econo,y , fashion and ideologies start from Ameria , which is in fact in the hands of jews .. the symbol of dajjal , having one eye , is printed on all dolars which is the supreme court symbol of israel … so people folow the trends of their and are following them .. And these jews are claiming jerusalem as the place of their god to come and hence muslims are being termed as terorists who oppose them and hence the false allegations against them of twin towers and iraq fights and placing bribed presidents in all surroundng countries of israel are there …Hence u hear so much anti muslim feeling but see an ordinary muslim quite within his religeous living which is a contradictory fact ..
Quran says .. God is not the creator of confusion . His laws are simple to follow and understand .. So all what is propagated against islam .. women , marriage , killing , kafir if read in context , from the right books , sahis hadeeth and quran , will bring a light .. but people around us ahs already made a veil of suspicion and hatred that it all ook a lie and thus they ar emaking yu a part of a global power )we being led by their god … (A belief which Is Considering thm as superior race , hidden )
Iam just saying islam is a true way of allah , read it , clarify the misconception , followthe right form of god and then folow morals .. U will die and then will be resurrected ,there will be one judgement day .. we will be send either to hell or heaven and a few who will be folloeing one god’s supremacy but would have occured sins will go for hell for a period , decided as per the severity of their crime and then will return to heaen , with a black forhead .. and they will live their forever as allah has made earth and heaven and hell for real and has made this system for them being choosen in different place so that a person of hell may not claim y did u place me in hell .. or angels may not claim y u made a beautiful heaven for men and not for us .. its a tes twhich all will be witnessing and will be aproof for all of us to relize what is right and wrong .. i must say this is a very frightining realityand had it not been right allah wont ahve said in quran , sun and moon are complteing their assigned term .. all has to perish one day .. which the scientists ahave got to know in this century alone . several other discoveries .. are also available under the topic quran and science .. read it and see if quran is right ..
And most importantly u will never find any confusion and contradiction and anti humanity in anyone of Quran’s verses and that’s why it taks about the logic reasoning and not the illogical supremacy of one reace aor god incarnation by any oter religion ..
May allah show you te path of wisdom ..aamen ..
And thanks for lisening for so many days .. I wont disturb u any more .. I have compleed what i had to say
its ur wish .. wheather u shrug it off .. or research of what i said ..
Alah hafiz my friends
Namaste Gulrez
Thanks for being humble and realising that U people are different than muslims ….and hence deserve a difernt destiny…
But I must tell you last time ..what is the history of religions as perislam …which might connect all of us ..
I would not go into the stories you posted after this statement as they demand blind belief , forget about rational answers there’s no intuitive insight that can be gained out of the stories of bible, quran etc.
look at that story of Satan – he is thrown out of heaven for not bowing down to Adam..actually Satan is truest muslim of all the 1.5 billion muslims.
who is a muslim ? one who does not bow down to anybody other than Allah.
Satan is the only muslim in the world rest all 1.5 billion muslims believe that Satan was wrong in not bowing down to somebody other than Allah 🙁
such is the contradiction in the beginning of your story ..now you have to ask yourself …would you favor truth or your blind belief ..that is the question sir!
@Subrata
Namaste Subrata,
these are very good noble thoughts, in fact we should done this long time back before people like Naik stepped into the platform to defame the vedic religion. But the problem is that all these great Vedic scholars, even today need funds from our hindu brothers and sisters, but our hindus are busy investing money in making more and more temples and golden idols which will not benefit anyone. Only if we all convince our hindu brothers and sisters, even for a span of ten years to donate generously to sites like Agniveer.com who promote Vedic Dharma, then we will definitely educate everyone to an extent where Naik will get scared to even lecture about hinduism henceforth.
There are some good channels like Aastha Tv, which is run on Vedic Broadcasting. But still, we need to improve channels to an extent where they educate everyone on all ages regarding Vedas.
namaste agniveer,
can u edit what is written about vedas in wikipedia? during debates they bring wikipedia stuff, their reliability and authenticity, and i cannot just continue refuting them.
Anybody can manipulate wikipedia. Actually wikipedia policy says that it relies only on references in English language published by bigger groups. But for Vedas, all these references are useless. So when someone changes wikipedia to include the traditional views, they delete these.
I suggest a group will have to keep working on wikipedia for permanent changes.
What is this?
who says that is religious website?
this site and their follower comments are very bad.
are you going for war?
@Human:
Convince me that Quran is not a war manual invented to justify Arab conquests and their destruction of other indigenous cultures around the world.
The Holy Quran is not a war manual because it clearly says, forgive my translation:
“The one who kills even a single huan has killed all of mankind and whsoever saves one human life has saved all of humanity”
How many war manuals do you know that say this?
@Muhammed:
Ah…Quran 5:32 in all its beauty, isnt it?
Well, here’s some analysis of it IN CONTEXT like you Muslims always want it.
You can jump up and down, run left and right, stand up side down, wear your clothes inside out, etc. etc. but the game is up buddy. The world has woken up to the sick ideology of Islam.
Read this link to find out how your beautiful religion of peace deals with Muslim scientists who lend their support to Darwinism. Good luck.
@Muhammed:
We are talking about Arab conquests…what Islam, conquests, subjugation, etc., etc. mean for non-Arabs. Would love your thoughts on this thread.
@muhammad
brother QURAN is war based book and is proved several times by many scholars and it clearly says that all muslim who will have any relation with kafirs then almighty Allah will keep no relation with that muslim . if you ask i’ll provide you the reference too..
@Human
yes Agniveer is on war against falseness, cowardliness and hatred.
choose your side.
Muslim does not hate zakir naik all this is fraud
Zakir naik is a pure muslim do u understand
We hindus hate zakir naik, he is fraud
I am pure hindu do you understand?
@haroon shaikh
Brother, Jakir Naik is Kufr becuase he bow head before stone building e.i. Kaba. The things which come in measurement called Idol. Allah had denied to bow before Kaba or Idol in Kuran but Jakir Naik deed against Kuran. Whatever excuse one may give on this but Kuran never sanctions excuses.what’s your stand on this?
i have read a little bit of the stuff above
Some hindu wanted an answer for whether or not islam allowed rape on slaves or something along those lines. Well we must remember that Hadith is only for reference. So this is what the Quran says.
Let us look at Noble Verse 24:33 “Let those who find not the wherewithal for marriage keep themselves chaste, until God gives them means out of His grace. And if any of your slaves ask for a deed in writing (to enable them to earn their freedom for a certain sum), give them such a deed if ye know any good in them: yea, give them something yourselves out of the means which God has given to you. But force not your maids to prostitution when they desire chastity, in order that ye may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them, yet, after such compulsion, is God, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them),” In this Noble Verse, we see that if a slave requests his freedom from his Muslim master, then his master not only must help him earn his freedom if there is good in the Slave, but also pay him money so the slave can have a good start in his free life
You are not allowed to have sex with the prisoners of war without their consent so their is no argument anymore. I am going to be a muslim soon. What’s sad is the state of hadith on the internet. It is so badly translated. In one place it said in the hadith that the prophet had sex with Ayesha while her periods. Thats blasphemous. It is in the Quran you can’t. Another translation i found of that same hadith it said embrace and not sex. Why would the prophet do what hes apparently ‘making up’ not to in the holy Quran? It was just because people at that time found menstruating women dirty and wouldnt sleep on the same bed. It was to quash such attitude.
What’s more is that there are so many anti islamic sites now. Remember whatever is popular has more opposition. So that is a testimony in itself.
Hope all of you understand too.
@Fernando:
What’s more is that there are so many anti islamic sites now. Remember whatever is popular has more opposition. So that is a testimony in itself.
There are so many anti-Islamic sites now *not* because Islam is popular but it has very very rough edges and poses a threat to humankind. Intelligent folks have woken up to the Islamic threat. The problem with Islam is that it stipulates that the only litmus test for heaven is belief in “La Ilaha Il Allah Mohammed Rasool Allah”. Nobody would give a damn if Muslims just believed in this nonsense. But Muslims have historically *acted* on this belief by killing Kufr and bringing the Dar-al-Harb into Dar-al-Islam. Thats the problem.
also this
“Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because God has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband’s) absence what God would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For God is Most High, great (above you all). (The Noble Quran, 4:34)”
For those who say men can beat woman.
@Fernando : it would be a great help, if you point out the words(arabic) in brackets specifically first,next and lightly in the actual verse… from the quran, so that there is no doubt left in the mind of the reader coz allah would not want his message to be misinterpreted.
brothers salam …………
we all know that if a person is calling on a right path there are several misguided person who did’t wants them then they started to search a point against him………Dr zakir naik is also a person he s not a prophet so it may some mistake commit by him so let us not searching about the sin of brother zakir …….. he is a better person than us if any one wants to prove him wrong he must have to came foreword take a debate and answer some question then prove him wrong but putting wrong allegation on zakir naik or islam is not good………………………………………….because duniya usi ped par patthar marti hai jis par phal lagte hain
may allah give right way and thinking to all…………….
Respect Dr. Zakir Naik. He is a GREAT human being and has true and immense knowledge of all the religions. We should all support him as he is spreading PEACE. Islam means PEACE. And that is what Dr. Zakir Naik is spreading.
@Ashfaq:
Respect is EARNED. And no, trying to spread the war ideology of 7th century Arabia in the 21st century deserves condemnation, not respect. And no, Islam means SUBMISSION – not peace.
@Ashfaq
Sorry brother, we will not respect Zakir Bhai MBBS, if zakir says that I will burn in hell just because I do not blindly follow Quran to be the divine book. Today you see us disrespecting Naik, tomarrow you will see yourself disrespecting him as well. I just pity people like you whom hes using as a scapegoat or should I say HALAL SCAPEGOAT, to spread his stupidity without knowing that he is cracking jokes in the name of your prophet and islam.
All of you those claiming that they have understood quran very well yet spreadinding his own agenda in the name of quran beware you will fall into hellfire that burn your brain not a time but repeatedly.
@a muslim
that is only if HELL FIRE exists>>>>>>>>>>>>only then I will burn.
we do not have place for bedtime stories of hell heaven, so try some kids site, you would make money and fame.
Are you thinking that I had said this for money? Again I am saying don’t claim that you understood quran very well, yet you didn’t understood..
Why don’t you accompany Dr. Zakir Naik to Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, and other such countries to propagate ISLAM an PEACE ?
Why don’t you teach the PEACE facets of ISLAM to Talibanis, Somalian groups, Pakistan and others ? Dr. Zakir Naik should accomapny you in this mission.
Had you taken this initiate previously holocausts such as 9/11, 26/11, Mumbai bomb blasts 1993, Mumbai Train blasts 2006, etc,etc. would have been avoided and thousands of people would have been saved.
I would also like to know what Dr. Zakir Naik and the likes of him as well as his followers like you do in comforting, helping and soothing victims in such holocasts ?
What I think of Dr Zakir Naik and why I am against him?
Dr Zakir Naik MBBS (Bachelor of Medicine and Bachelor of Surgery) is a preacher and speaker from the Islamic community talking on various different topics relating widely on religions, religious scriptures, political issues and many other topic. One of unique things about Dr Zakir Naik is that he suggests that he knows everything about different religions, Islamic, Christianity, Jewish, Buddhism, Sikhism, Hinduism and Jainism. Moreover he is also aware of what is said in every scripture’s and knows the chapters, verses and quotes of by heart. He has been all over different places countries and spreading those lectures in relation to these areas specifically. In every session taken place on different topics, the whole building has been full up with public for his lecture. A lot of people ask questions in relation to those topics and they answered very smartly by him, whether the person asking is Muslim or not Muslim.
What I personally believe about Dr Zakir Naik?
With Dr Zakir Naik talking about all these different topics and spreading his opinion is not right and I believe that it is totally wrong. This is because; he always thinks logically his way and assumes that must be the right way. As a result, most of the people see what he believes and happens to change their decision in that case. Should that be allowed publicly?
Why I believe this about Dr Zakir Naik?
For Dr Zakir Naik having this type of discussion influences people and believed that it is only him that is aware of what is right and wrong. The people drown into what he believes. As a result, this gives him to opportunity to divert their brain however he wants them. This then would stop them from thinking and they believe that Dr Zakir Naik is the god.
Comparing two different religious scriptures:
It is a fact that all different religions have their own scriptures. More common is that even the scripture say the same thing; they are going to have different meaning and different belief because; they introduce different religions. The way Dr Zakir Naik approaches them is by comparing two different scriptures from different religion. The most common way is to by looking at the similarities and mentioning those points in an Islamic way. Also, in various scripture, he says that he knows Chapter, verses and quotes of by heart, which is not the case all the time. Also misinterprets the meaning, but makes it some obvious to public and they believe them. This turns down other scriptures and make them less informative to people that belong or do not belong that community. The main effort by him is having good argument and logic involved on those topics. But to my point of view, it is totally baseless if they are not to have the real meaning. The audience happen to believe them as they are influenced by them very strongly. But it gets a lot worse when people from those community loss faith. I believe that is very bad and unacceptable way to lecture over different religion. It is not only me, but various other people that are Muslim and non Muslim thinks the same.
Comparing two different religions:
When the discussions are done on religion, Dr Zakir Naik has the common approach carried out by comparing two different religions. The religion introduced all the time is Islamic and in comparison introduced other religions that are Christianity and Hinduism most of the time. By introducing Christianity, he implies how their values and Islamic values are similar. It is the same approach with the Hinduism and what values come under that religion. The comparison introduced in this what Hindus and Islamic believe in common. I really am not satisfied when such comparisons are made that do not have any similarities at all. This is because; in comparison, he makes judgement of what Hinduisms have in common. Comments are made by him regarding Hindus believing in Idols as god and holy offering that are given in temple to the worshipers and in counter responses brings in what the scriptures say by misinterpreting it. Can this not have negative impact on what people should believe in Hinduism? I see that it has nothing go to do with Dr Zakir Naik and he does not the real fact on what Hinduism believes. The most approaches carried out are by connecting things that have different meaning but want to introduce that their in no dedication like this. With Hinduism being vegetarian, he also counter argue and introduce false believe is carried out. In many discussions, he has been discussing about existence of the Hindu gods and introduces what the Hindu scriptures say by totally misinterpreting what it means. As a result, this misguides many people and they happen to go against the belief. This creates a lot of problem because other religions would have bad opinion about Hinduism and can brainwash people from Hinduism and other people from different community. Is Dr Zakir not racist? Also, in discussion suggests some things that Hinduism needs to follow by saying that they do not. Is this not going to demoralise the Hindus community? Will it not make the Hindu community look bad in comparison to other communities?
Discussing about political issues (Islamic Terrorism):
Apart from religion Dr Zakir Naik also has discussion on political issues that very closely relate to Islamic community. One of the main topics introduced by him is on terrorism and in what ways political reasons have defamed the Islamic community in the society. To make the people think in a different way, Dr Zakir Naik shows how other religions and community are part of terrorist organisation. In the discussion, Dr Zakir Naik had involved how Great Britain had been affected by terrorism. It was obvious that Great Britain was affected by terrorism on the 7 July 2005 and America on the 9/11 attack. In defence of Islamic community, Dr Zakir Naik introduces how Great Britain and America was affected by the IRA (Irish Republic Army). But the fact is that IRA (Irish Republic Army) terrorist organisation was finished a long time ago and recently, they have not done terrorist attack. Why would Dr Zakir Naik want to bring in something that is old? Apart from that, LTTE (Liberation of Tigers of Tamil Eelam) was brought in front. But LTTE (Liberation of Tigers of Tamil Eelam) only causes problems to Sri Lanka and they have finished. Also, they did not spread their ideology all through out the world. The Islamic terrorism had started a long time and ago and they are still on going and there is no end to it. I believe this is one of the ways to victimise other religious minorities and make them look like the culprit. On top of that, also make the British media responsible for all this. Despite the evidence are shown, still Dr Zakir Naik comes out with defence on them. But all the information is given by him is orally and no concrete evidence on that is introduced.
Calling people from different religion’s to Public sessions:
Dr Zakir Naik call people called from different religion for discussion. This makes it more obvious to the audience that anything. Also, they would not feel that he is biased and the person brought into the conversation and the public would take more interest. They all have discussion on the religious discussion on the topic raised in the session. Later, they argue on that issue of what is said in the scriptures and how the religious society and community is made. As a result, Dr Zakir Naik is able to win the arguments. The affect of the public is that they believe that he is very knowledgeable on the all the religions comparing to the other people. To my point of view, this is not right because just arguing any point logically and having evidence presented falsely would not mean that they are the winner. Are all the people right all the time of they win the arguments?
When people talk about Dr Zakir Naik?
People are going to be talking about Dr Zakir Naik in public and general conversation as they are influenced by them. As a result, they would make others interested in to what they believe and later they would also follow Dr Zakir Naik. This is just one of the ways people would not follow what they believe and go against their principle. This could against their religion and how they see things. This will only happen because in every session Dr Zakir Naik always goes on about how different topics and is very detailed. I believe this is wrong because other people that are also like Dr Zakir Naik would not be seen by the public and will be ignore. As a result, this is wrong make others turned down in that fashion. Is this going to be a bad influence on other people?
Where does Dr Zakir Naik travel for his purpose?
There are various nations that Dr Zakir Naik has travelled to experience how people in different countries are like. The main logic for Dr Zakir Naik is to have a public session and make people aware about him. As a result, he would involve them and make them as part of those lectures. In the lectures, he would want to discuss what facilities those are in their country and how they are bad influence they to them. Dr Zakir Naik would not even understand anything as in those countries as he himself would not know and just talk about it. Even if the information is not right, he would not bother as the public would follow and understand what his logic and understanding is. Also, those public would be coming often their and they would develop understanding of what he is trying to say. But Dr Zakir Naik does not just want to spread logic round the world but spread Islamic logic and make people think their way. Would it be right to use Islamic logic to have public sessions?
Who comes to be part of Dr Zakir Naik Public sessions?
This makes people from different religion and countries come and listen as all this may relate to them. This results Dr Zakir Naik to be a lot famous in front of the people that belong to different cultures and community. Does Zakir Naik have any rights to famous that way? In the nation wherever they live, they would not follow the rules and regulation as part of that religion and would look for changes in those nations. In certain nation, they have their own logic and ways to deal with thing. I totally do not see point that Zakir Naik should make any comments of everything. Also he would not have the full knowledge what happens in different countries. As a result, their conflicts and be a problem to those areas. This is just a way that Dr Zakir Niak is going to cause a dispute and problem overall by spreading irrelevant logical reasons.
How do people react after listening to Dr Zakir Naik?
People are brainwashed of what he says in the public sessions. As a result, in future only his logic would be used by people. This would people see ways differently and not understand their own belief, cultures and background, which they come from. Those people become so dedicated and all follow his logic. Does anyone even bother to look at why Dr Zakir Naik thinks of anything that way? The problem occurs when others get affected by these types of thought and later produces disturbance all through out.
People in the public end up converting their religions:
Dr Zakir Naik in all of the conversation has mentioned about the Islamic community and what benefits they have. Also to produce more depth in the information discusses about how the Islamic community function with the community, society and community. In contrast says a lot opposite about other religion and community. In the audience, this would influence many people against other religion and also go against their religion. This would result to extent that they would convert their religion to Islamic community. This has taken place in the public session that he has and ask them of they have not being forced. But the fact is that they have been forced and they are not going to admit that in public as they know the result later on for them could be bad. Also, they are brainwashed about Islamic community and they happen to follow Islam. Many British, Americans, Australian and many different citizens have converted to Islam and they are successful Islamic scholar and have discussion on what Islam is all about afterwards. Also in Hinduism, many cases people have been forced to convert to Islam and they are not originally from the Islamic community. Previously, many Hindus have been forced to convert to Islam. In Dr Zakir Naik public session, this has been the same result and many of them have taken the similar step. I would like to ask that how many people belonging to Islamic community have converted to other religion. This is because; if atheist can convert to Islam that apply many restriction to them, then why cannot people from Islamic community converted to atheist? As a result, they would have much more freedom and also would keep balance on what Islamic community take, they can also give. If not atheist, then other different religion, they can covert to. There are various Muslims in the world that are not strict Muslims and do not going the Quran like other Muslim. But is says in the holy Quran that if any Muslim converts to another religion, they are going to be given a death sentence. Is this not just going to develop Islamic community and turn down other religions?
Negative impact of Dr Zakir Naik on different people and professions:
On all discussion, Dr Zakir Naik introduces negative information on politician, religions, Media and so on that all happens to be wrong. To my point of view, it is just going to be defaming people and their profession. The information presented is always one sided by him and introduce nothing positive about the same topics. This would influence the public to think only one side and not allow them to use their own initiative. If any dispute between communities or religious minorities happen, Dr Zakir Naik would blame others and defame them. This would make it obvious in terms that he would always have logic used all the way through. In contrast to all this, it is only Dr Zakir Naik that is gaining honour and getting away. As a result, he is quite successful in terms how the audience is responding to him. This also allows him to continue on what he believe is right to do all the time. Is this right way to use the knowledge? Dr Zakir Naik also came on NDTV 24X7 in the “Walk the Talk” show. Later he denied what he had said in the news and said that the whole of show was cut and pasted. Can anybody believe Dr Zakir Naik? In this issue it is possible that the media for the audience attraction, they may lie. But in many cases Dr Zakir Naik have done the same and ruined people and professions. As a result, I cannot believe that Dr Zakir Naik is right as on many occasions he has made up opinions. There are people that have bad opinion on him, would believe that anything mentioned negative about him in the media would have to right. It is obvious that Dr Zakir Naik would not agree with that and would counter argue to self defend himself.
May result religious dispute between two different communities for example Genocide?
This can cause a religious dispute between two different cultures because on many occasions he has only talked positive about Islam and negative about other religions. The effect of this on the community has been negative at some point. If is gets a lot worse, he can create genocide between two communities and have people killing each other in the name of religion. Dr Zakir Naik wants communities to be closer and live happily in the society. But certain actions have caused damages to many people are not happy about it because only he himself and Islamic community have earned the benefit. Are the people from other communities not going to feel abused? As a result, two different communities are going to have dispute and later spread disturbance all round. Even if the situation gets worse for the two different communities, it will be again that Dr Zakir Naik would come and have public session and blamed other and get away for that causes. But the real culprit would be he himself. In future, different communities would not appreciate help and mixture of others, which would result worse atmosphere. In response to all this, I would see he is one of Blasphemers that people in the community, Muslims and Non-Muslims have as risk.
Dr Zakir Naik using different ways to attract the audience:
When I had gone on Your Tube, I had seen many different videos on Dr Zakir Naik’s public discussion on the religious topics. This implies that there are many different ways he is trying to pass his message to the audience. To my point of view, I believe this is one of ways; he is trying to catch people and brainwash. In the commenting section, many different people have given positive comment on his logic. But in contrast, I have seen many people giving negative comments on his video. This illustrates that many people do not like the way as he is using his knowledge and they want all this to stop. Moreover the people that do not like him, they have also made video of him to introduce his way of logic is not right. In that case, I believe those type of videos produced against him, should be understood why they are made. This would enlighten people not to fall in his trick and believe what he says. Also, I would recommend the owner of the Your Tube to eliminated his video for as they are relating to Blasphemy.
Dr Zakir Naik doing Fraud:
On having so many public sessions, Dr Zakir Naik has earned a lot of respect on what he believes people in the community think of him. Later, the news had come out that he had been charged with fraud. The fraud involved using the quotes for the Quran and copying and pasting and giving his own point of view. This implies that he has plagiarised someone work and effort, and tried to earn his name. To my point of view, wherever anybody does as part of their work, they need to have their own knowledge and understand. Using other people’s knowledge for your purpose is known as stealing and anybody who lives in respective community and society would not appreciate that. It also makes me believe that all the public sessions that he has are nothing and have no value because; he had been carrying this type of approach all the way through or exaggerating information. Dr Zakir Naik was going to come to Britain to have a public session. But he was not refused to come and was not able to make it. The reason why he was banned because of the way he was spread his Islamic logic all the way and on the public this was a band influence. I believe that this was the right approach to make the people think how his attitude can cause a problem. There were few people that were not happy but mainly, they were people that belong to the same community has him. It makes it much worse if the religious community that he belongs to in questioned because; they would feel pinpointed. To my point of view, I believe that these types of people should be thrown out the community and society.
Public have different point of view of Dr Zakir Naik now:
After seen different point of views, many people also have negative opinion on Dr Zakir Naik and believe that in many ways he is wrong. This has created his negative images in front of the people that are dedicated to him and believe that he just wanted to be their god in front of them and use them. In response, not just Non-Muslims but, many Muslims disagree with him and the way his attitude towards the society and community is. This may imply people that his approach has not been right been right. The public at some point believe that he has been a cheater to them and believe that he was just wanted to get noticed by the public. He was a doctor and studied MBBS (Bachelor in Medicine and Bachelor of Surgery). So did he not continue with practicing his medicine degree? This can just mean that he was not happy with his profession or found it hard to cope with it. As a result, he decided to become a preacher in that case and later take that as a different approach. Dr Zakir Naik could have been someone in the society and community that would have treated normally. But this type of response has given him a bad impression overall at some point.
How people in the world are and what Dr Zakir Naik talk about them in public sessions?
There are people that have their own way to deal with things and are able to keep themselves safe from all the problems. As a result, he had made a lot of personal comments on how people live the community and society. It is important to make sure that you stay safe and respect people in the community and society. Also cultures and religion for the people plays a major role in terms of their dedication and I believe many people do show respect. But personally, I think people have their own lives and they have full rights to live how they like to on their agreement of the community and society. If in the middle of the road, somebody has a problem, are they not going to ask for help without looking at what they are and who they are? This demonstrates people understand that if somebody live life different, does not mean that they do not have humanity. On this issue, I am able to come across Dr Zakir Naik is so interested in discussing on how people to people can be a threat and introducing a lot of superstition. As a result, I think that Dr Zakir Naik has no rights to talk about people.
Political power that Dr Zakir Naik may have:
If Dr Zakir Naik gets away after all this, it will be politics in terms of what type of support he has. Also many people support him and if anything happens to him, the public that are very dedicated to him, will protest for him. Also with him, there are other systems that would be in his contact and can do something to support him. In political purpose even if people are wrong they will get away easily or if they are caught, they would be have other higher people that could have put their effort behind them, which would save them. As a result, these people would have no end till the others are caught as well. I would suggest the community and the people in the society to stay away form this type of people are concentrate in how to follow you culture, religion and faith. There is no need to compare religions
Conclusion on what I think should happen to Dr Zakir Naik?
As conclusion, I believe that however Dr Zakir Naik has behaved in the public sessions as a blasphemer should be penalised from doing that and stopped appearing in front of public for public sessions. Moreover, a police complaint and the case should be filed on his name and press serious chargers. On the basis of that, he should be given a serious punishment for his deeds. It is not only Dr Zakir Naik that has been part of this but, may other Islamic Scholar have been involved in this and they should be given the same punishment. This would imply to anybody not to become a blasphemer like him and treat people from different community and religion with respect. The community that have been following him, does not realise that he has been creating problems for others. Most of the problems have come when he had talked about religious comparison, religious scriptures and political issues. In the entire topics he had always used Islamic logic and diverted the public’s attention on them. In contrast, made others turned down. If in future they should only have religious scholar discussing about their own religion, religious scriptures, society, community, belief and so on. This will keep peace and harmony in the community and make others feel a lot satisfied that way.
Ha Ha Ha. What should I say when there are so many pandits here. My dear all…please read ur own script first then analyze urself about what u r doing.
Every religions has black sheep. Dont ignore Allah by following those black sheep. Analyze Quaran and Hadith to know Islam better rather than observing so called muslims.
If anyone has problem with Islam then I like to say him/her to follow his/her own religion strictly. But know ur religion first. If u know yourself better, you can guide others better. Again I wanna say if u know Islam better try to analyze only Quaran and Hadith not its followers.
One question to all… Why western world accepting Islam after 9/11? Are they fool? Why Bible has so many errors (mathematical and scientific)? Why Hindus accepting images as gods when there are clearly mention that God has no images. Why?
I dont want any answar…I just want you to know the answar. I belief Gods word must not have any error. I dont belief Dr. Zakir Naik as well as Sri Rabi Krishna..I only belief religious scripture. Youtube, and bla bla bla..have various videos regarding Islam and various religion but I dont belief those. I only belief written documents such as Quaran, Hadith, Vedus. Analyze those anf find out the truth.
Namaste Monwar
In KalBhairav’s terminology, you seem to be a hit and run Jihadi who never shows up again to read the response 🙂
Let us know if you are not the one I am predicting! I will reply as soon as my assessment regarding you is proven wrong!
You are right brother. We should follow only the scriptures of Quran and Hadiths and nothing else. Look, the scriptures said that, even Zakir Naik admits, that Prophet Jesus Christ will come back again to redeem the world. He shall not come with a new message but propagate the original message. Agniveer is Prophet Jesus Christ. He does not claim to preach anything new. He is Jesus Christ. But Quran says that Allah has put seals on hearts of those who do not believe. Even when Muhammad claimed Prophecy, Mecca people kicked him out.Only few people believed in Him. Today when Prophet Agniveer aka Jesus has come, again all these fake Muslims do not believe in Him. Only a few believe and they shall go to Heaven.
Don’t be a fool and do what Mecca people did to the great Muhammad. Surrender to Prophet Agniveer who brings the original message of Allah.
Remember, Allah is very benevolent, but he never forgives the non-believers.
May peace be upon you.
@ Monwar Brother can you tell me whoz the first muslim coz ALLAH is very confused while deciding whoz the first muslim … check this proof OUT AND THEN RLY >>>>>>>>>
Who Was the First Muslim?
According to several passages in the Quran, Muhammad was the first Muslim:
Say: Shall I choose for a protecting friend other than Allah, the Originator of the heavens and the earth, Who feedeth and is never fed? Say: I am ordered to be the first to surrender [aslama] (unto Him). And be not thou (O Muhammad) of the idolaters. S. 6:14 Pickthall
Say, verily my Lord hath directed me into a right way, a true religion, the sect of Abraham the orthodox; and he was no idolater. Say, verily my prayers, and my worship, and my life, and my death are dedicated unto God, the Lord of all creatures: He hath no companion. This have I been commanded: I am the first Moslem (Wa ‘Ana ‘Awwalu Al-Muslimin). S. 6:161-163 Sale
He hath no associate. This am I commanded, and I am the first of the Muslims. S. 6:163 Rodwell
Say (O Muhammad): Lo! I am commanded to worship Allah, making religion pure for Him (only). And I am commanded to be the first of those who are muslims (surrender unto Him). S. 39:11-12 Pickthall
This is contradicted by both the Quran and various Islamic traditions which refer to the presence of true believers both before and during Muhammad’s alleged “call” to prophethood. The Quran mentions that Adam, Noah, the Patriarchs, the twelve tribes of Israel, Moses, Jesus etc., were all believers and many of them even messengers who lived a long time before Muhammad:
Behold, thy Lord said to the angels: “I will create a vicegerent on earth.” They said: “Wilt Thou place therein one who will make mischief therein and shed blood?- whilst we do celebrate Thy praises and glorify Thy holy (name)?” He said: “I know what ye know not.”… And behold, We said to the angels: “Bow down to Adam” and they bowed down. Not so Iblis: he refused and was haughty: He was of those who reject Faith. We said: “O Adam! dwell thou and thy wife in the Garden; and eat of the bountiful things therein as (where and when) ye will; but approach not this tree, or ye run into harm and transgression.”… When learnt Adam from his Lord words of inspiration, and his Lord Turned towards him; for He is Oft-Returning, Most Merciful. S. 2:30, 34-35, 37
We have sent thee inspiration, as We sent it to Noah and the Messengers after him: we sent inspiration to Abraham, Isma’il, Isaac, Jacob and the Tribes, to Jesus, Job, Jonah, Aaron, and Solomon, and to David We gave the Psalms. S. 4:163
We gave him Isaac and Jacob: all (three) guided: and before him, We guided Noah, and among his progeny, David, Solomon, Job, Joseph, Moses, and Aaron: thus do We reward those who do good: S. 6:84
And when Ibrahim and Ismail raised the foundations of the House: Our Lord! accept from us; surely Thou art the Hearing, the Knowing: Our Lord! and make us both submissive (muslimayni) to Thee and (raise) from our offspring a nation submitting (ommatan muslimatan) to Thee, and show us our ways of devotion and turn to us (mercifully), surely Thou art the Oft-returning (to mercy), the Merciful. Our Lord! and raise up in them an Apostle from among them who shall recite to them Thy communications and teach them the Book and the wisdom, and purify them; surely Thou art the Mighty, the Wise. And who forsakes the religion of Ibrahim but he who makes himself a fool, and most certainly We chose him in this world, and in the hereafter he is most surely among the righteous. When his Lord said to him, Be a Muslim (aslim), he said: I submit myself (aslamtu) to the Lord of the worlds. And the same did Ibrahim enjoin on his sons and (so did) Yaqoub. O my sons! surely Allah has chosen for you (this) faith, therefore die not unless you are Muslims (illa waantum muslimoona). Nay! were you witnesses when death visited Yaqoub, when he said to his sons: What will you serve after me? They said: We will serve your God and the God of your fathers, Ibrahim and Ismail and Ishaq, one God only, and to Him do we submit (wanahnu lahu muslimoona). S. 2:127-133 Shakir
When Jesus found Unbelief on their part He said: “Who will be My helpers to (the work of) Allah?” Said the disciples: “We are Allah’s helpers: We believe in Allah, and do thou bear witness that we are Muslims. S. 3:52
Ibrahim was not a Jew nor a Christian but he was (an) upright (man), a Muslim (musliman), and he was not one of the polytheists. S. 3:67 Shakir
They are not all alike; of the followers of the Book there is an upright party; they recite Allah’s communications in the nighttime and they adore (Him). They believe in Allah and the last day, and they enjoin what is right and forbid the wrong and they strive with one another in hastening to good deeds, and those are among the good. And whatever good they do, they shall not be denied it, and Allah knows those who guard (against evil). S. 3:113-115 Shakir
Then will Allah say: “O Jesus the son of Mary! Recount My favour to thee and to thy mother. Behold! I strengthened thee with the holy spirit, so that thou didst speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. Behold! I taught thee the Book and Wisdom, the Law and the Gospel and behold! thou makest out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, by My leave, and thou breathest into it and it becometh a bird by My leave, and thou healest those born blind, and the lepers, by My leave. And behold! thou bringest forth the dead by My leave. And behold! I did restrain the Children of Israel from (violence to) thee when thou didst show them the clear Signs, and the unbelievers among them said: ‘This is nothing but evident magic.’ And behold! I inspired the disciples to have faith in Me and Mine Messenger: they said, ‘We have faith, and do thou bear witness that we bow to Allah as Muslims.’” S. 5:110-111
Lo! it is from Solomon, and lo! it is: In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful; Exalt not yourselves against me, but come unto me as those who surrender (muslimeena). … So, when she came, it was said (unto her): Is thy throne like this? She said: (It is) as though it were the very one. And (Solomon said): We were given the knowledge before her and we had surrendered (wakunna muslimeena) (to Allah). … It was said unto her: Enter the hall. And when she saw it she deemed it a pool and bared her legs. (Solomon) said: Lo! it is a hall, made smooth, of glass. She said: My Lord! Lo! I have wronged myself, and I surrender (aslamtu) with Solomon unto Allah, the Lord of the Worlds. S. 27:30-31, 42, 44 Pickthall
Please answer me as soon possible ………..