Why did God create us?

Alhamthulillah…

http://islam-is-easy.blogspot.com/2010/10/islam-and-theory-of-karma.html

Read “GARUDA PURANA” to know the punishments in HELL. It is a Hindu scripture only. And you guys reject? You are playing double game with people.

Do you think GARUDA PURANA is a comedy or comic book? Read this book and tell me why GOD created HELL?

where did the eternal matter come from??
why there should be any eternal matter??
where did the iswar n souls came from?? who made them??
what is the source of energy for iswar??
will he ever take rest??
wont he be bored with the same eternal job??

That is incorrect as laws of Karma does not apply to one who has moksha..Neither there is good or bad which such individuals are beyond, nor cycle of karma, so a state of perpetuity.

Now inherent in Pragati these souls have conscience, it is best shown through evolution as from biology we learn that from the first life for of bacteria, we evolve into higher forms of life, supported by Hindu Dharma. So it explains why we evolved to human form bacteria, because the nature to become more conscience of our selves and ultimate goal to evolve to the highest goal. These patterns show us that what is desirable moksha. Not that Hindu dharma says there is higher or lower life forms. But we can see a pattern of intelligence, knowledge, and other qualities that let us understand what is the highest goal is..

Evolution is nice that is show continuance change of life form showing again a pattern of progress in basics that seems to show people want to evolve to the next step that is moksha..

Considering this lord Vishnu has came in human form three times that is Purshuram, Lord Ram, Krishna, and that too in short period of time, what I saying and what more important dharma says that the ultimate goal is moksha.

Love takes risks. Even if you’re going to date somebody and get married, you know there are going to be days where there will be conflict; but love takes risks. And God the Father – He does not only create the children and creatures that will obey Him – He doesn’t have robots – He makes all of His creatures with a free will. And that means He needs to take the risk that some will choose not to love Him and not to obey.

And one of the greatest evidences of God’s power of love and the freedom of will He gives us is that He did create creatures such as Lucifer and Adam and Eve and others that chose to rebel. He makes His creatures free and then He appeals to their love and their senses and reason; but He never forces. And God does not have a cookie cutter where He only makes robots that say, “I love you God, I love you God.” He wants us to choose to love Him.

Well all of His creatures have a great gift, and it’s called a free will. He does not force. That’s why He says, “Choose you this day who you will serve.” He appeals to us, and the devil pulls us one way and God pulls us the other, and we get to vote; and that’s a lot of love to give us that kind of freedom.

Sometimes you have to allow your children to learn through experience. God told Adam and Eve if you eat from this tree, you’ll be in paradise and everything will be fine; but don’t eat from that tree or you’ll die. And He wanted to find out would they listen to Him. God knew of course.

Now because Adam and Eve chose to listen to the devil who said, “eat it”, and God said, “don’t eat it”, the devil set up his headquarters here in this world; and the conflict between good and evil is being acted out on the stage of planet earth. Paul says our world is a theater to the universe.

So you know, it’s a big picture, but just trust that God is love and that He’s doing everything because He loves us.

The Cross is the best place to see Christ’s power of love and the devil’s love for power.

I mean…what a website and what a post. Absolutely incredible. Such clarity of these concepts in such a easy manner of explanation….A rarity…

I’ve heard many sermons of Vedic Sanyasees but this one is just superb. I just imagine if the world starts talking about such concepts, peace would certainly prevail….

@Jacob
Brother there is no problem with cycle or moksha because its not at all easy to attain Moksha and need to serve god and have to meditate very hard and truthful . whenever a pair have sex then a new soul take birth from divine bramhan …

Response to the article ” Reincarnation: Myth or Reality” in islamhinduism website.
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This is a poorly researched piece of work. I do not say this because I am a Hindu but because the author has not be able to integrate the multiplicity of the doctrinal views on rebirth and karma. More importantly, the author is unable to rise beyond his bias against Hinduism or against Christianity. A subject like this is an apt case to understand how academically motivated an author is but if beating Hinduism with the stick of karma and rebirth is all what the author wanted to achieve, he is late by almost 900 years,as, within the theology of Hinduism, tons have been written in support of and against the concept of rebirth and karma.

By the way, if the author wanted to understand a non-Hindu take on rebirth, he ought to have read Plato’s works. And if he wanted to know the beliefs of rebirth in Islam, I am sure Mushafiq knows what Alawis of Syria believe in and why Ismailis indulge in the ritual of chantas or the beliefs of Ghulat sub-sect in Islam.

Now to the meat of my response. The scriptures of Vedic dharma do not force feed the concept of rebirth or karma as a MANDATED one. If anything, these two concepts gained acceptability during the period of Vedanta.

The core of the concept of rebirth: The idea behind rebirth is not about accumalating some set of qualifications to break away from the cycle of births,as the author alludes, to but shedding away the wants and needs of an individual that have a physical / material angle. The true nature of SELF cannot be known unless ego conciousness is overcome. Possessing ego conciousness leads to attachments driven by desires that inturn lead an individual to assume proprietorship of things/persons that he/she comes across and this in turn leads to miseries. Only when an individual matures to the extent that he/she overcomes this trait can the birth cycle be broken. This is a key aspect of rebirth.The author has tried out many examples on metamorphosis to explain away rebirth in a faulty way.In order to achieve what’s stated above the individual has to execute his duties dispassionately by leavnig the fruit of results of his actions to the Almighty. The author has completely missed capturing the essence of the concept of rebirth in Hinduism.

The core of the concept of karma: Karma in English simply means action.The author here picks and chooses what he wants to present to the audience from what he claims to be Hindu theology. Had he really read the Hindu theological view of Karma, he
would have clearly stated, how Karma gets created and what are the divisions of Karma, as per Hindu theology.

Karma gets created by an individual by way of thoughts,deeds, words and interactions with other individuals. There is something called sanchita karma (the sum of past karmas),prarabdha karma( that karma that is the reason for the current birth from the sanchita karma) and kriya karma (the karma that creates currently). Karma is dependent on rebirth. If there is no rebirth there is no karma.And why does rebirth occur? As we saw above it is owing to an individual’s unwillingness to rise above the material / phycial joys of fruits of action.If today, I envy,say a Sachin Tendulkar, his skill and his money, I am sure to be born once more. Unless this trait is destroyed, the cycle of rebirths and hence karma will continue.

Again the authhor seems to have missed the plot from whatever he read about this in the Hindu theology, he claims he read. Within the Hindu theology, there are a set of scriptures that capture both the so called theistic and non-theistic views of both karma and rebirth. This post from the author is positive proof that this great masterpiece was never read by the author.

The theistic view puts a God as effecting karmic cycles (in Hindu theology) explains that God creates environments for a soul (and an appropriate body) to deal with the past karmas ( Sanchita Karma and Prarabda Karma) and gives chances to break the cycle of births to secure salvation. The quasi theistic view (within Hindu theology) puts God an a non-participating observer that lets the individuals figure it out as to how they can break the cycle of births.Apparently the author seems to have missed all this bigtime and posted wahetever he deem appropriate to trash Hinduism. But both the theistic and quait theistic views recommend reighteous dharmic practices in life to overcome karma and hence rebirth.

The author then waxes eloquence about sense of responsibility & about fatalism. The corner stone of Hindus theology, which the author seems to have missed clearly states that God does not distribute happiness or miseries to individulas but only the results of karma,for which, the individual is solely responsible.So what have got here? The author completely dropping the ball on the key take aways from what he claims to be Hindu theology, by choice or by design & then trying to make Islam look good. So in the Hindu theology,unlike what the author claims, the individual is responsible for the actions and reactions & it is not about fatalism.

Let us now contrast this with Islam,where,based on injunctions of that faith, if an individual has not been Isalmic enough or un-Islamic, he encounters the wrath of eternal hellfire, where, fresh sheaths of skin are given after the old one gets toasted,making even a repenting individual to escape. But hey, this guy on the toaster in hell, is already dead anyway. Why burn what is already burnt? Now which sounds logical? The eternal hellfire or the opportunities given to an individual soul to mature? And about fatalism, if anybody spends time with a Muslim,we can hear him repeatedly use the phrase “In sha Allah (if God wills).” I have heard this in professional discussions in Dubai & also in fast food restaurant counters in Dubai (why call Allah to get a filafel done in 10 minutes). I can quote even serious examples. King Fahd of KSA, July 1990. In response to the death of over 1400 pilgrims in Mecca (due to suffcation and trampling in the crowd)during the sacrifical feast.” This is God’s will. Had the victims not died in the tunnel they would have died elsewhere at the same predestined moment.” Many Muslims hold this view that it is Allah’s will alone that leads some toward the righteous path and others away from the righteous path. If so, why do those that were led astray by Allah himself get burnt in eternal hell fire?So again which is logical and who is fatalistic?

hey i hav read d article bt one
thng is striking hard my mynd
hard…
cant dis be so
God = energy = matter(d
smallest constituent of matter)
n Pakriti (NATURE) actly gav dat
particle life(soul)……
Dis sounds more scientific na….
n if God is energy = matter
(smallest possible particle),
then it is obvious 1 single
matter wont work……
wot do u thnk?
r my ideas out of tract

this clearly
depicts dat UR allah is concerned
only about life on Earth….wot
about Aliens???
nd wot is this good thing??? wot
about d bad thngs??? SATAN…
ohk in dis creation of ALLAH (d
perfect)……. where from SATAN
came into human mynd ???
Dis means Humans hav a WILL
POWER wich ALLAH cannot control
if so how can ALLAH be Perfect???

bunch of punks attacking other faith look at your own faith and see how cow pissing your religion is. misguiding people to donate for stupid ignorant crap. even the most ignorant muslim will not belive crap your putting up. people like you read it and praise about all your silly nonsense articles.

@ Vik / Kal Bhairav / HIndu Revolution: Thanks for the compliments. I did go through the threads that you folks ( KB and Vik) posted too. I learnt quite a bit from the posts of yours. Let us keep this momentum going. I am becoming increasingly sceptical though that some of these guys simply do not get it. Please read the latest responses to my posts on IH website,where,someone thinks that eternal hellfire is perfectly logical. And Vik, I do look forwards to your write up on kaba worship. KB, you are asking for the moon by waiting for some of them to respond based on emprical proofs. You seem to be overtly optimistic 🙂

And HR, thanks for having mirrored my comments on your site.

I just skim and read through but there are several points of disagreements.

God has many properties, which are detailed in vedas. God does not manage which would be another word for dictator. Gods properties are better described in the Vedas. Nature’s properties change and those properties are given by god. The souls relation to nature that is also described. Basically there is creation, destruction , and that which neither these three forces exist in nature identify by the trinity of three gods. It also exist in mathematics and seen in the number system and mathematical expressions which model the real world and is why mathematics works..

Now the properties of soul never change, but the properties of nature is ever changing in the state of flux. It is said that some great souls have powers over nature for the reason for its properties for the reason of existence hence why time exist, and why does not universe collapse as nothing preventing from doing so. We talk of other forces the reason for existences so we say there is god who maintains this world. See the difference he is not managing the soul but maintaining the world, its properties, etc. in which the soul exist. Intertwine are the properties of nature good(satvik), bad(tamsic), and of passion. . . . . But there must be more reason for this, and question only grow, for why is a very big question?

The soul or conscience is that element that does not change and is constant, whereas nature constantly changes. This is basic to Hindu dharma.

Dear All

Dont mind my words.. But I feel pity because what ever may be the post, we all rest at commenting against Islam and Christianity. Again I feel very bad when a Christian and Islam supporter comes and comments on these posts with out even knowing about the Vedas or koran or Bible.

If some day a list will be made of the persons who were the satans on the earth, 1st will be Mohammed 2nd to some millions will be the muslims who killed the innocent people, looted their properties, raped the girls and women,

then there will be the catholics for another millions who did the same. They kept on war against non believers for more than 300 years, killed the innocent even the women, although many claim they did not rape them, thats why they are not worse than the Muslims.

Then we will find some modern stuffs like Hitler, Laden, Saddam etc. After millions of such, one will reach the Asurs, Rakhsas as said in Hindu Purans, they used to disturb the people in doing religious, but they were not mass killers or they did not rape others. Even ravan did not rape Sita, he kept her as her prisoner.

This only differentiates Hindus and other religions. So why at all a discussion on this stupid things ??

On March 5, 1772, a French expedition led by Nicholas Marion du Fresne landed on the island,Tasmania. Within a few hours his sailors had shot several Aborigines. On January 28, 1777, the British landed on the island. Following coastal New South Wales in Australia, Tasmania was established as a British convict settlement in 1803. These convicts had been harshly traumatized and were exceptionally brutal. In addition to soldiers, administrators, and missionaries, eventually more than 65,000 men and women convicts were settled in Tasmania. A glaringly inefficient penal system allowed such convicts to escape into the Tasmanian hinterland where they exercised the full measure of their blood-lust and brutality upon the island’s Black occupants. According to social historian Clive Turnbull, the activities of these criminals would soon include the “shooting, bashing out brains, burning alive, and slaughter of Aborigines for dogs’ meat.”As early as 1804 the British began to slaughter, kidnap and enslave the Black people of Tasmania. The colonial government itself was not even inclined to consider the aboriginal Tasmanians as full human beings, and scholars began to discuss civilization as a unilinear process with White people at the top and Black people at the bottom. To the Europeans of Tasmania the Blacks were an entity fit only to be exploited in the most sadistic of manners–a sadism that staggers the imagination and violates all human morality. As UCLA professor, Jared Diamond, recorded:

“Tactics for hunting down Tasmanians included riding out on horseback to shoot them, setting out steel traps to catch them, and putting out poison flour where they might find and eat it. Sheperds cut off the penis and testicles of aboriginal men, to watch the men run a few yards before dying. At a hill christened Mount Victory, settlers slaughtered 30 Tasmanians and threw their bodies over a cliff. One party of police killed 70 Tasmanians and dashed out the children’s brains.”

Such vile and animalistic behavior on the part of the White settlers of Tasmania was the rule rather than the exception. In spite of their wanton cruelty, however, punishment in Tasmania was exceedingly rare for the Whites, although occasionally Whites were sentenced for crimes against Blacks. For example, there is an account of a man who was flogged for exhibiting the ears and other body parts of a Black boy that he had mutilated alive. We hear of another European punished for cutting off the little finger of an Aborigine and using it as a tobacco stopper. Twenty-five lashes were stipulated for Europeans convicted of tying aboriginal “Tasmanian women to logs and burning them with firebrands, or forcing a woman to wear the head of her freshly murdered husband on a string around her neck.”

Not a single European, however, was ever punished for the murder of Tasmanian Aborigines. Europeans thought nothing of tying Black men to trees and using them for target practice. Black women were kidnapped, chained and exploited as sexual slaves. White convicts regularly hunted Black people for sport, casually shooting, spearing or clubbing the men to death, torturing and raping the women, and roasting Black infants alive. As historian, James Morris, graphically noted:

“We hear of children kidnapped as pets or servants, of a woman chained up like an animal in a sheperd’s hut, of men castrated to keep them off their own women. In one foray seventy aborigines were killed, the men shot, the women and children dragged from crevices in the rocks to have their brains dashed out. A man called Carrotts, desiring a native woman, decapitated her husband, hung his head around her neck and drove her home to his shack.”

According to Mother Teresa’s bizarre philosophy, it is “the most beautiful gift for a person that he can participate in the sufferings of Christ”. Once she tried to comfort a screaming sufferer: “You are suffering, that means Jesus is kissing you!” The man got furious and screamed back: “Then tell your Jesus to stop kissing.”

very merciful jesus, indeed.

Spiritually, the temples are like launching pads where one performs those activities that assist in reaching higher dimensions. They are the doorways to more advanced realms and where pilgrims and devotees go to make an outward display of their devotion to their Deities. Though God is within us all, and religion or yoga is very often an inward process, God can manifest externally as the Deity, the arca-vigraha incarnation, through which He accepts the devotee’s service while he or she is in the material realm. These devotional activities, such as simple darshan (seeing the Deity and being seen by the Deity), are considered purifying for one’s life and consciousness. The goal is to continue on this path until one’s thoughts are purified to the point where one sheds his or her materialistic consciousness and can enter the spiritual realm, at least by the time of death if not before. Thus, everyone tries to visit the nearest temple a few times a day, or tries to make pilgrimages to the famous holy places. The temples usually have a main shrine with smaller temples or shrines surrounding it. These shrines may have murtis or carved images of important spiritual masters, or deities of various demigods, such as Parvati (Lord Shiva’s wife), Durga (the warrior aspect of Parvati, sometimes called Kali, Tara, etc.), Sarasvati (goddess of knowledge and intelligence), Lakshmi (goddess of fortune, Lord Vishnu’s wife), Ganesh (a son of Shiva, said to destroy obstacles and offer good luck), Murugan (meaning divine child, the Tamil name for Subramaniya, another son of Shiva, especially worshiped in the South), Brahma (born from Lord Vishnu and who engineered the creation of the living beings within the universe), and Shiva (the benevolent one, part of the triad of Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva who continually create, maintain, and destroy the universe), and Deities of the Supreme, such as Vishnu (incarnation of the Supreme appearing as the All-pervading One, the preserver or maintainer of the universe), or Krishna (the Supreme Being, source of all other incarnations, such as Rama, Vishnu, Narasimha, etc.). The temple is usually dedicated to a particular form of God or demigod which you will find on the main altar. It is explained that the Deity is not a product of someone’s imagination, but is made in accordance with the ancient Vedic texts, called the Shilpasutras, which deal with the science of iconography. Everything about the Deity, such as its proportions, the postures, hand gestures, weapons (if any), the emblems, etc., all mean something. Therefore, it is very important that every part of the Deity is formed properly. The Deity may also have different features which represent different aspects, abilities, powers, or pastimes. After the Deity is formed, there is the elaborate installation ceremony during which the Deity is installed in the temple. At this time the devotees and priests petition the personality of the demigod or Supreme Being to take up residence in the form of the Deity. Only then does the Deity become the arca-vigraha, or worshipable incarnation of the Supreme Being or particular demigod. It is considered that since God is the controller of both material and spiritual energies, He can turn something material into spiritual energy or vice versa. Thus, the Deity, which may appear to be made of common material elements, becomes spiritual and allows us to see spiritual form with our material senses. Out of the causeless mercy of the Supreme, He agrees to reside within the form of the Deity to accept the worship of His devotees. Of course, we should not think He is forced to remain there. If He is neglected or if harm is allowed to come to the Deity, He may leave the form of the Deity at any time. There are many stories in both traditional Vedic writings and local legends that relate how various Deities have reciprocated with devotees. Such relations have taken place in dreams as well as in the awakened state in which the Deity has come to life to show Himself as He is or partake in pastimes with His devotees. There are also some instances when Krishna or Shiva spontaneously manifested themselves as stone Deities. Such Deities are called self-manifested because they were not formed by any artist or priest. Lord Venkateshvara at Tirupati, Vishvanatha Shiva at Varanasi, and several Krishna Deities at Vrindavan are a few examples of this. Of course, most Westerners of little faith cannot explain such occurrences, and can hardly accept that the Supreme would exhibit Himself in this way. They would rather look for some “logical” or non-mystical explanation for such things. But for the devoted and the sages who have glimpsed and understand the spiritual dimensions of existence, the Deities are a reality. Even if one cannot accept the concept of Deities, then even in the most abstract sense the images, such as in Buddhism, represent cosmic principles which affect us all. Therefore, they remain a part of the reality we experience at every moment. In this way, the temples are the places where one can see and even experience the Divine. Furthermore, many of the temples are built at locations where ancient historical or holy events involving the incarnations of God or the demigods have occurred. Such temples give evidence for the legends that are described in the Puranas which explain how the Supreme Being appeared there. Therefore, these sites become very sacred, even spiritualized for having been the site of the pastimes of the Supreme. It is for this reason that people can acquire great spiritual merit by visiting these places. Thus, these sites become important centers on the pilgrimage routes for many of the devout. In this way, the temples are the most significant of the surviving monuments where religious, social, cultural, and, in many cases, political aspects of history have been preserved. Historically, the temples were also major centers for education. The larger ones would maintain priests and students for the recitation of the Puranic texts to the people at large. Thus, both literate or illiterate people could be provided with a cultural education. The villages, however, had schools for basic study and learning, but beyond that the temples often had libraries full of books from all branches of learning and teachers who taught all these subjects. The temples also served as centers for the arts since they would employ many artists to paint scenes from the Puranic legends or carve beautiful sculptures. There were also jewelers and goldsmiths who would make articles for the Deities. Musicians and singers were also employed, and dancing girls would perform exotic dances in times of worship, especially during festivals. The larger temples had hospitals and doctors and areas for feeding and caring for the poor and destitute. In order to do all this, the temples consumed large amounts of fruits and grains. Thus, the temples were given plots of land that were used mostly by the farmers for growing food for the offerings in the temples. These offerings, however, would then be redistributed amongst the temple employees and the poor. The temples also had systems of banking. Thus, with such a variety of activity centered around them, the temples played a very important part in Indian culture. After we have traveled through India, and if we have been able to connect with the spiritual side of it, the experience will certainly influence us in a special way. In fact, on some level we will never be the same. If we have traveled with a seeker’s humility and a quest for higher experiences, then some of us who have gone on this journey will have attained glimpses into the visions of the sages and viewed similar levels of higher reality. The effects and memories of such encounters will stay with us forever and, thus, change our lives. This is priceless experience.[Stephen Knapp]

Stop breaking unity & come forward to unite. Zakhm movie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl5Mu9cDhmY

Who is the loser? only helpless humans.

Kashmiri Pandits

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7TSz_G1Y8s

Kashimiri Muslims.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7q_H3K2aHuI

@Cantakeitnemore:

As regards creation, here are my thoughts on it.

(a)The WHY of creation is unanswerable by science. Religion engages in speculation, imo.
(b)The question therefore is which amongst the competing speculations is logically/philosophically sound.
(c)If ontological entities (Brahman, Atman, Prakriti) came into existence at a particular point in time, it raises questions as to why it didnt happen before. In physics there is a concept used to verify the universality of laws called the concept of mediocrity which asserts that no point in time or no position in space is priviledged over another. So, a universal law should not take recourse to specifics. So, if these entities arose ex-nihilo at a particular point in time, it raises more unanswerable questions.
(d)The only alternative is to posit their eternal existence as Hinduism does.
(e)That there indeed was a beginning to our current life on earth 13 Billion years ago is confirmed by science and called the Big Bang.
(f)If you have a Big Bang AND you have an eternal sequence, the only logical conclusion is to believe in a creation, preservation and an “uncreation”. This is what Hinduism believes.

one q.-why god manages us?does he love us?and if he has not created us then why we r not god?saying that we r together since infinity.and as the population is increasing,not constant,where r.rest of us coming from?

different answers,do they have ability to satisfy ?but besides this q.I m satisfied.

one more q. ultimate release of bondage! more than knowing how to achieve that I m more curious to where will I go then(as I don’t have time for former!).things are actually getting a bit displeasing as I thought I m satisfied and question free!and in a position to tell others.anyways I would also like u to clarify the law of karma in the light of vedas regarding following questions.
1.someone dies in an accident due to others’ fault.what is the result of this act on both parties?
2.I had written this q.taking a personal reference and with a request to delete it once u r over with it,but I thought it won’t b possible.so I m presenting my question in a different way.a person gets lung cancer without having any known aetiological contact.another person,smokes like a chimney and yet has no trouble.medically we can say that the person had genetic predisposition.now is it even a reaction of our karma? why nowadays the bad people r enjoying better life and simple honest people r perishing?is there any good or bad deeds?since god doesn’t intervene,there shouldn’t be any.if it is there then what happens to the bad doing people and if the main purpose of vedas is to provide peace and happiness then it fails.I apologies to write that but I was just rationallising the things so that I can get peace!

I haven’t said these!may b someone else did.

why this word press error is always coming.I have asked it first time!

Consciousness and Religions
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Time sccale for evolution of Consciousness is in the order of Billions of Years. The flow of Consciousness is like a river, when there is a uneven surface (trough or peak) along the path of flow, the water get stagnant there. Only in the plain & levelled surface water can flow without hindrance.
Religions are product of human unconsciousness where ego takes an important role.
Normally Consciousness enters into various levels of unconscious state and comes out from there to evolve further. At some unconscious state, Consciousness can’t come out so easily or will take too long to get out from there. The time period may be in the order of thousands of years.
Religion is a state of unconscious mind and we are all stuck at this stage. Ego the master of unconscious mind make us too much identified with our religion and causes wars, terrorism, conversions, injustice, superiority, suppression, slavery, inquisition, domination among the human beings.

It is important to look at all world religions that which creed give a free path for Consciousness to evolve further.
1. Christianity: The religion is stuck at Jesus, people can’t think beyond him. If he never returns, there is no hope in the Christianity.
2. Islam: This creed stuck at Mohammad and his book Quran. If there is no return of Jesus or Mehdi, absolute hoplessness will prevail in the future.
3. Buddhism: It stuck at Buddha and his teachings. It may give some way for Consciousness to evolve, but strict follow of his teachings will slow down the Consciousness evolution.
4. Hinduism: It never stopped at Ram & Krishna. It is an open ended religion and lot of room for people to think. It is the best religion for the Consciousness to evolve further in its own free way. It is the only plain land for Conscious river to flow, and most of the other religions behaves like either trough or peak, consciousness stuck at each of those points.

I.m sorry:.I couldn’t find answer to.my qs:plz.reply in the context.

Lord Shiva, his family, and Universe
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Shiva represents the endless empty space which holds the whole Universe.
Shakti represents the energy fields of every Particles, Planet, Stars, Galaxies, and Universe.
Ganesh represents all the five forms of matter (solid, liquid, fire, gas, ether) formed out of the Universe of primordial particle soup.
Skantha or Muruga represents the magnetic field (sometime referred as gravitational field) of all the subatomic particles to every celestial objects.

Dynamic spinning energy field formed from vast endless Emptiness, consequently it gave birth to Universe of particle soup by causing the Big Bang. After this effect, so as to keep individual particles spinning alive and avoid from crash each other, the energy field gives rise to magnetic field around every particle by virtue of its fast spinning. The magnetic field of individual particles protect itself to keep away from other particles so that it can constantly spin and doesn’t allow other particle to come very close to clash which will cause a collapse of spinning. Like how the Earth & Sun magnetic field works, in the similar manner the subatomic particle as well.

Shakti gave birth to two Sons Lord Ganesh (first: particles or matter), and Skantha (second: magnetic field or gravitational filed). Shiva, Shakti, Ganesh, and Skantha are all four represents the whole Universe as a family.

You can’t see Gods of Universes anywhere except in Hinduism. No other religious Gods have this qualities or capabilities to claim to be Omni God Hierarchy.

“Whether we call it Vedantism or any ism, the truth is that Advaitism is the last word of religion and thought and the only position from which one can look upon all religions and sects with love . We believe it is the religion of the future enlightened humanity . The Hindus may get the credit of arriving at it earlier than other races, they being an older race than either the Hebrew or the Arab; yet practical Advaitism, which looks upon and behaves to all mankind as one’s own soul, is yet to be developed among the Hindus universally.

“On the other hand our experience is that if ever the followers of any religion approach to this equality in an appreciable degree in the plane of practical work-a-day life-it may be quite unconscious generally of the deeper meaning and the underlying principle of such conduct, which the Hindus as a rule so clearly perceive – it is those of Islam and Islam alone . . . .

“For our own motherland a junction of the two great systems, Hinduism and Islam.-Vedanta brain and Islam body-is the only hope.

“I see in my mind’s eye the future perfect India rising out of this chaos and strife, glorious and invincible, with Vedanta brain and Islam body.” This letter is dated Almora, 10th June, 1898-

Footnote

So Vivekananda thundered from Cape Comorin on the
southern tip of India to the Himalayas, and he wore
himself out in the process, dying in 1902 when he was
thirtynine years of age.

(From the ‘Discovery of India’)

–Jawaharlal Nehru, the first Prime Minister of India
(Nov 14, 1889 – May 27, 1964)

It is true that the ancient Hebrews invented Religious Genocide, which is the killing of other peoples for having a different religion than the killers’ own. They did this by murdering the priestesses and priests of the competing deities worshiped within their own population, then the competing clergy of all the local tribes. For good measure, they also killed the conquered tribe’s adults and boys, keeping only the little girls whom they could then rape and brainwash into the new religion of Yahweh-ism and their new roles as slaves to men (“Old Testament” is filled with plenty of examples). Jeremiah and his revisionist followers did their worst to remove the evidence of Yahweh’s wife Tiamat, and demoted the other deities to “Angels.” The history of what then became known as Judaism is, if we are to believe the Biblical tales, in large part one of sanctimonious religious terrorism — practiced right up to the time when their weapons were physically taken away from them. Many are offspring of a Genocidal Religion continue to doing the similar bad things forever to the mankind.

please ans a question of mine
if god didnot create us then who created us
and how the number of human beings are increasing population i mean

@Bro Vajra:

In Advaitic view, the best way to describe Brahman is existence-consciousness-bliss. This is NOT an attribute or property of a thing called Brahman, but is the very essence of Brahman. Now, if we understand “Tat Tvam Asi”, what is it telling us? The inhering soul in “me” or “you” is just this Brahman. But, we have various Upadhis [limiting adjuncts] like our body, our family, etc. with which we identify “me” or “you”. Thus, these upadhis play the role of hiding our true nature. These give rise to different samskaras.

We are existing, we are conscious, but unfortunately we are not able to attain bliss.

At the Paramartha level of reality [as opposed to Vyavaharika level of reality] Brahman also is not the doer. There is no cause and no effect. There is no becoming or doing. There is just pure being.

Nice to discuss philosophy once in a while…debating Momins all the time is boring.

Let us continue this discussion so that my OWN understanding of Hinduism is enhanced.

@Vajra:

It appears that that Swami Dayanand’s position is similar to the Dvaitin position. According to this, Jivas are different in kind from Brahman. As also Prakriti. But they are also not completely different. This is expressed as identity-in-difference – bheda-abheda [difference-nondifference]. Example would be the sun vs sun rays. The latter is completely dependent on the former, yet is different from it.

Also, Advaita doesnt disagree with this cosmology/ontology. Advaita simply holds that the Dvaitin view is valid in Vyavaharika, while the ultimate truth is Paramartha. Advaita takes recourse to the Mahakavyas [Tav Tvam Asi, Sarve Khalu Idam Brahma, Sarvam Etad Brahma – Ayam Atma Brahma] to establish their position. The Brhadaranyaka Upanishad is also considered to be the Upanishad that most closely expounds the Advaitic view.

Regarding Moksha, I am not fully educated on the Advaitin view. The Brahmasutras have a section dealing with this – Section 3 which can be found here

http://www.swami-krishnananda.org/bs_00.html

I personally find not much difference in the cosmogony of either Dvaita, Advaita or Samkhya in the phenomenal world. I do find them quite rationalistic. All of these have the same ontological entities except that Samkhya equates Brahman with Pradhana. So, Samkhya is considered by Vedantins to be somewhat atheistic in their philosophy.

Namste Brother Vajra and KB

sharing whatever little i understand on the subject

There are multiple Realities in this world depending on who and what frame of reference these are being seen from.

Lets take “colors” for example.

Do colors exist ? for all those who have certain kinds of eyes and sentience – colors definitely exist – BUT in their own MINDS

Now, from the absolute perspective do colors exist? NO! they don’t

the concept of color is not very different from the concept of causality which perplexes the human mind (chicken egg causality for instance) but is not an absolute reality

when we say , Brahman is beyond space-time , it’s futile to search for its causal connections with Maya from an absolute perspective

The Ishvar, Maya, Jiva triad is indeed a REALITY for all those who consider themselves as Jivas .For all such people (which constitute the majority of us all) , vyahavarika is the way forward and Vedas become the ultimate guide.

But just like colors have no meaning in the absolute perspective, so does vyavahirika. It’s another matter that all discussions about parmarthika also fall under vyahvarika. The idea in such discourse is to guide intuition through rational pointers..and not to DEFINE or RESOLVE parmarthika as its impossible.

Why there should be any contradictions within two realities, is the question?

from the example of colors and also from Quantum Mechanics we know that REALITY is always subject to being viewed differently (even contradictorily) depending on the observer of Reality. REALITY does not get impacted by the observer but the observer starts treating REALITY as whatever his/her senses report and whatever his/her mind/intellect deciphers

Also why Brahman in Vyavharika level dwells in delusion?

as brother KB said, the locus of delusion is not Brahman but the Jiva . Its the *Infinite Aliveness – The Infinite Probalities* of (Brahman), of which, the *jiva* collapses some and treats them erroneously as complete reality.

What is the cause of this ignorance as per Vyavharika reality? Is this Swabhav (property) of Brahman?

Ishavar = Brahman + ( Maya/Prakriti with its tri-gunas in balanced state )
Jiva = Brahamn + (Maya/Prakriti in imbalanced state)

from vyahvarika perspective Ishvar = Brahman + Maya (prakriti- cosmic creative will) , Jiva = Brahman + individual creative will

It’s the Jiva which is the locus of illusion and not Brahman . Brahman is indeed the non-finite Seer , while prakriti(Maya) is playing out its trigunas in the affinity of Brahman.

The Jiva has to understand his own individual maya as well as Ishavaras to realize Brahman.

Awesome..

my logics were almost similar
i feel lot happier to find the similar answers

but my doubts are still existing

that is
1. i feel that “After attaining Moksha you act like god himself , there will not be any difference between the two except they being two souls”
2. after attaining moksha they will not be bound by karma as they can attain moksha only if there is no karma with them
and they have become super souls by now even if they come on earth they will live like gods among us like krishn etc
3. there are innumerable number of souls so the process keep on happening i think, as each cell in animal is also a soul remember!!
and the universe is vast considering Bhagavad Geetha it is highly rare like 0.0000…….0000001 of probability where people have understood
4. why is it necessary to have a balance between number of people attaining Brahman to be equal to number of people coming from (if people can comeback from it whats so special about that place)Brahman

Wonderful article..I feel as if I got the answer for the puzzle!!..I am lucky that I came across this website.
I have a doubt ..Please clarify..
I believe Astrology. Has Veda’s mention about astrology anywhere?..how positions of the planets are linked to our life?
I feel ‘Astrology’ is one more way God wants to help us?
As per the statement in the beginning of this article – “Whatever is happening with us in our life is as per our own efforts till last moment. And we can change the course of our destiny through present and future efforts.”
it seems our life events are NOT a planned one. We can change the course of our life as per our WILL. If so, is ‘Astrology’ – the very old mathematical science is not right?..

Thank you

Brother cantakeitmore, vajra brother was nicely making u understand of the fact. Causes are because of cause. There is cause behind every phenomenon. Thus when u search the causes one after another, u ud get an ultimate cause. Now u can ask what is the cause bhind ultimate cause. That ud b childish. How a human body forms? From a single sperm, right? Now what is the reason bhind the formation of sperm? Gradually u ud get nearer to supreme cause aftr vch u hav to answer. So it is better accept there is no cause bhind supreme cause. Dhanyawad

agar ek kamre me kuran ho aur usi me das lakh rupaye rakhe ho , tab sabse pahale kisko bachayenge rupya niakalenge ya kuran ko ?

muslom kaha karte hai ki kuran allah ka kalam hai ?kaise hai jara batlaye ? kuran ko kisi farishte ke madhyam se kyo bheja gaya ? kya farishte jinn hote hai ? iska sabut kya hai ? jokurani allah sari kaynat banane kisi ki sahayta nahi letaa vah 23 sal ke dauran kuran ka sandesh dene me farishto ki sahayta kyo leta tha ? allah satve asman me kaise hai ? kya satvan asman hota hai ? kuran me kaha gaya hai ki 8 farishte kurani allah ka singhasan uthaye huye hai us par kurani allah virajman hai usse to malum hota hai ki 8 farishte “simit” singhasan simit fir us par baitha hua kurani allah simit kyo nahi hoga? satva asman bhi simit ? jo simit ho itni vishal kaynat kaise bana sakta hai? dehiye kuran 38/75 jisme kurani allah kahate hai ki hamne adam ko “dono hatho” se banaya ? jiske dono hath ho vah allah kaise ho sakta hai isliye kuran sansar banane vale ki nahi ho sakti? batlaiye kya koi muslim iska uttar dega ?

Kapil Bhaiji, why did Ram went for akhet, why did he shot a buck for, wasn’t he trying to kill one animal???

Vajra Ji, this applies to hidutwa also, why did Eshwar created human beings to worship him? or as you say why your respective dieties turn away their faces to those who do not worship them ???

sorry to interrupt, but Kapilji kya aap punya nahin kamana chahtey??
Ok leave it, my question is- aaap paap aur punya me se kya kamana chahtey hain aur kyun kamana chahtey hain ???

Namaste Great Souls ( Agniveer, Arya, Vajra, Indian Agnostic & KalBhairav)

I’m a bit confused. I’ve heard since birth that “Everything we see around or can even imagine of belongs to the Supreme Being”. The Universe ( Brahmaan) and Souls (Atman) are nothing but his manifestations. A question, that what was before creation doesn’t come as there was never such time when universe didn’t exist. The real question is “Why doesn’t now Supreme Being merge himself with the universe & souls and end all this creation to be in perfect balance where souls do not experience good or bad, happiness or sorrow, winters or summers etc. & not even the feeling of self ‘I’ ?”
“What is exactly in clear terms meant by ‘Moksha’ ?” I’ve heard it means to be in union with God and never take birth again but what’s the proof who knows what happens after death ?

Thanks in advance for your answer
Karna

Nothing material/phyisical exists for ever. This is what you observe in the world. Do you mean to say the nature/Prakriti existed eternal with God ? Nature proves that everything that exists in material form should perish. SO, was the nature/Prakriti material or spiritual in the beginning..? And if it was spiritual then God “created” the present world in material form ?..

How can anything other than God be co-eternal with God.. ? Then that should also be a God, I think. Anything that is immortal should be absolutely powerful too. Are soul and nature then as powerful as God ?

@Vijay SJ:

You completely miss the point here. The point of the article is if God exists, why would he create? This article is not arguing for the existence or non-existence of God.

All Why can GOD cannot create SOUL if he is all powerfull,please do reply.I need answer to this.Matter I understand but why not SOUL.WHy he canot create and destroy SOul.