This article is also available in Hindi at http://agniveer.com/god-testing-hi/

Note: This article does not intend to deride any religious belief. On contrary, Agniveer believes in utmost respect for any religious belief, irrespective of religion, so far it is respectful and tolerant of others. This article is a series of questions addressed specifically to those who believe that only their religion is best and others are inferior. The aim of the article is to drive home the point that religion is a matter of personal faith. Any attempt to desire others to leave their personal faiths and imbibe my favorite religion will be full of logical loopholes. Any reference to name of any religion in this article refers only to those elements in these religions who are indulged in conversion activities.

Many people in world believe that:

– God is just, kind, perfect
– This life is our first and last life (Zindagi Na Milegi Dobara)
– God is testing us here (Bhagwan Pariksha Le Raha Hai)
– Based on the marks we obtain in this test, we will go to either Heaven or Hell. (Swarg ya Narak)

 One Life which is Test, God is best examiner, and Result is Pass (Heaven) or Fail (Hell) .

 

Let us evaluate this basic construct critically through a series of examples, and decide whether it is logically plausible.

1.
Many children die in the wombs. Would they go to Heaven or Hell? Many say they go to Heaven because they never did anything wrong in their lives.

Now my question is “Did they even have an option to do anything wrong?”

Is God not being partial by clearing one candidate even without starting his examination, and another one has to keep giving test after test continuously for 100 years!

2.
Many children die young before they reach maturity. Even the wrong acts they do are not out of willful desire to do something wrong but out of innocence. Would they reach Heaven or Hell?

If they reach Heaven, then why does God not kill everyone in their childhood and ensure a seat in Heaven for them? Is God not being unjust and imperfect?

If they reach Hell, what was their fault?

Say twins were born. Both lived same innocent life for first 3 years. Then one died. He will go straight to Heaven. The other remained innocent for next few years, then got into bad company and died at age of 60. Now he would go to Hell simply because God decided to test him instead of his brother whom God killed as a child..

Is this not God’s crime that he made him live for 60 years and not his brother? Had he killed both at same age of 3 years, both would have gone to Heaven!

So if there is one life and permanent Heaven/Hell, it proves God is unjust.

 

3.
A person is born insane. His mental faculties have not developed beyond say, age of five. But he lives a long life. Will he go to Hell or Heaven?

Again the same questions as above rise. And result in either God being unjust or concept of one life as test to enter Heaven/Hell being wrong.

 

4.
Different people are born and nurtured in different religions. But each religion says that only followers of their religion will go to Heaven. Others will go to Hell irrespective of their deeds.

So who will go where?

What is my fault if I was born and brought up in a different religion? Why has God planned my stay in Hell from advance?

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5.
People say that children are innocent and hence they will go in Heaven, if they die young. Suppose a person takes this view seriously and resolves to gift heaven to all children. As a noble example of self-sacrifice, he starts killing children. His logic is that, even if I have to burn in Hell forever, I should do my best to ensure that these innocent children get reservation for Paradise!

Thus he is doing a selfless social service. Will he go to Heaven or Hell?

If he goes to Heaven, then God is setting a wrong example for people to follow.

If he goes to Hell, then selflessness is bad.

Further, since no one will actually know who will go where until doomsday comes, it means God has already spread enough confusion to motivate many innocent selfless social workers to follow the path of infanticide and killing!

6.
An unbiased testing environment will demand that
– first the topic be taught to everyone with same facilities and attention under same conditions,
– then they should be evaluated under same testing environment.

Accordingly, God should have first imbibed true religion and its scriptures in hearts of all people, then given them birth in same types of family, allowed them to grow up in same place and in same conditions, and only then should have conducted the test.

But in this world, we find the testing environment to be as diverse as one can possibly imagine. And yet God is claimed to be perfect, just and kind!

Most religious scholars answer this paradox by saying that God knows how to decide the fate by whatever acts people have done in their respective lives based on whatever environment they had to live in. This seems to be like God having something like the Duckworth-Lewis formula which is used to decide winner of an interrupted cricket match.

Now this raises few doubts:

One,
if indeed God is perfect and He has such a great scoring formula, why did he create the entire drama and wasted so many years? He should have used the formula in the very beginning and directly sent everyone to either Heaven or Hell!

Two,
If the formula works on a stillborn child or a fetus, why did he unnecessarily bias against certain folks and had them face troubles of long lives? After all He had created everyone equal to start with!

Three,
The test seems to have binary results. Either you get Heaven or Hell. There seems to be no concept of variation of results as per deeds. Some books do talk of several varieties of Heaven, but these merely increase a binary solution to a finite number solution (Instead of one Heaven and one Hell, there are now say 10 Heavens and 10 Hells). But still there is no continuous gradation. It is like a continuous function equation is giving a non-zero discrete answer, which is mathematically improbable.

7.
People seem to be retaining their youthful bodies in Heaven. Now will they be able to change their looks if they want to? What about children and fetus who go to Heaven? Will they go as adults? Will they receive a training in the language which is supposed to be the language of Heaven? If indeed so, why did God not make the same language as that of Heaven the lingua-franca on earth also?

8.
What about animals – reptiles, insects, mammals and other creatures? Will they go to Heaven or Hell? The earlier belief was that animals do not have souls. But now that it has been amply proved that at least the higher animals feel pain and pleasure like humans, the opinion is divided.

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Some claim that they will also go to Heaven. Others say that God knows the best!

In case they go to Heaven, why did God bias against others and not gave them birth as cockroaches and goats? That way they too would have got straight passport to Heaven!

In case they go to Hell, what was their fault?

Also, will they live like cockroaches and goats, or will they get human body? Will their intelligence be enhanced? Or they remain equally dumb as in earth?

9.
Heaven and Hell seem to be permanent. It will continue forever, as per these religions. Now if that be so, God’s injustice becomes even more prominent in light of above points.

Based on one single test, God put certain people directly in Heaven without testing them at all! Others he tested for so many years. Some he gave birth in homes of Apostates.

Is this not gravest cheating?

God is the most unjust and biggest cheater in these stories of there being one single exam and Heaven/Hell forever be true.

A corollary:
What would happen if people start fighting or cheating or adultery in Heaven? Will they be shifted to Hell? Or will they be permitted to do whatever they want and yet remain in Heaven?

10.
Recently there was news that a 2 month old baby was raped.

Now who is being tested? The victim or the rapist?

If its test of victim, is it in a position to respond?

If its test of the rapist, why the hell did God make the poor little baby as a scapegoat?

God seems nothing more than a crazy, stupid, psychopathic dictator if these stories be true.

11.
Almost all books of Eastern philosophies refute the concept of one birth. They believe in life being a continuous cycle not interrupted by death. Its broadly termed the Theory of Karma.

Now if this were not true, why did God confuse minds of people who were born in Eastern part of the globe, from very childhood.

God has done great miracles in past including burning entire towns and villages, and giving birth to Jesus without need of a human father. If He can do so much, why did he not burn these books of East forever? After all He himself laid the criteria that those who refuse to believe in Jesus or Muhammad will go to Hell! Ideally he should have stopped the creation of these Eastern books in the first place!

12.

What about terrorists who were brainwashed from very childhood to do Jehad? Will people like Kasab who killed many in Mumbai attack go to Heaven or Hell? They were simply brainwashed by fanatics to take up arms to seek God!

13.

People say that God forgives the sins of one who accepts the true path of God! 

This means that regardless of whatever you have done, if finally you say sorry, you will go scot-free in Heaven! 

And if you have been a devout believer but at last moment you say, “I refuse to believe”, he will give you ticket to Hell.

This raises further doubts:

One,
Does it not render the entire life and all its multi-dimensionality and complexity wasteful? The entire life, its efforts, its studies all go for a toss, and what remains is a final yes or no. Is this not against nature?

We all know anger is bad. But still we succumb to anger at times, due to limits of our understanding and our neural programming.

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So if someone has been a believer throughout but out of confusion, in last few days of his life, became an apostate, why should he be punished so severely?

And another one, who was apostate forever, why should he be rewarded Heaven despite all the nonsense he thought and did for decades?

No decision is without confusion. The only way to take a right decision without confusion is to know everything and be able to analyze everything. This is impossible for any human. Thus no decision of human can be considered reliable and final.

Thus regardless of whether one agrees or disagrees with message of God, the decision is full of confusion and based on extremely limited knowledge.

Is God not crazy then to curse one to Hell and another one to Heaven forever, based on a momentary decision which was taken out of ignorance?

Is God not unjust to have designed such a faulty testing mechanism that relies on ignorance of people which will decide the fate of all souls forever?

 

Two,
Does it not provide an inbuilt incentive mechanism in the system to keep doing all sorts of nonsense throughout the life and say sorry at the end?

We thus, see many becoming saint-like as old age comes to say sorry and go to Heaven. More careful ones do the nonsense, and then confess the same, and go scot-free!

 

Three,
Why does nature work opposite to God’s method then? Was nature designed by God when he was imperfect?

Because in nature, if you commit a mistake, you cannot go scot-free without paying the price.

If you eat lots of sugars and get diabetic, you do not get cured by saying Sorry! You need to undergo the entire treatment process and even then perfect cure is not guaranteed. We do not get strong by saying, Sorry! We do not get back our teeth by saying, Sorry! We do not become scholars by saying, Sorry! We do not master skills by saying, Sorry!

On contrary, in nature, everything happens in a continuous process as per definite laws. There is simply no escape from it. Why does God suddenly become so dismally and so confusingly discrete then! God must be crazy!

 

17.
If God is just and kind, why does He demand belief in things we can neither see, hear, analyze or feel, for booking our permanent future?

Neither we see God, nor see Him doing the kind of miracles, nor we witness any special divine people around, nor we have seen even trailer of Heaven/ Hell.

Yet belief in each of these is necessary to book a seat in Heaven!

And if we do not, we are doomed to Hell forever!

On top of it, God gave us the intelligence to be able to test what is fraud and what is right. In this world, we respect those people more who have more of this intelligence.

But in God’s kingdom, this intelligence is the greatest cause of sin.

Only the blinds will enter the Heaven. Rest shall burn in Hell!

The God’s world is indeed very confusing.

God must be crazy!

Note: The concept of God in Vedas is quite different. It is an entity that never deviates for unchangeable laws, does not test us, only helps us, gives life after each death, and supports our progress throughout through helping us eradicate ignorance through our own efforts. 

 

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Akanksha

Main prophethood mai wishwas nahi karti hun. Muze nahi lagata God apana messenger dharati par bhejata hain aur wo bhi rapist mass-murderer looter wicked imposter hain. Jesus se inspire hoke Muhammad apane aapko prophet maanane laga.Jesus aur Bible responsible hain Islamke janm ke lie.

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mahamahim Akanksha ji , ham sinema adi nahi dekhte hai fir hollywood to bahut dur ki baat hai ishvar ka vyvahaar saman rup se hota hai isliye kisi vishesh ko niyukt karna ek jhuthi baat hai ! agar vah niyukt karta to aaj bhi karta ishvar ka yah gun kyo… Read more »
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@raj.hyd Aap saty kah rahe hain. Isilie maine kaha jo ISIS ke sunni muslims hain wah true muslims hain kyon ki wo sab kuch kar rahe hain jo Muhammad ne 7th century main kiya tha. Maine unhe zombie ke saath compare kiya. (Agar aap Hollywood movies dekhate hain to aapako… Read more »
Akanksha

You are right Agniveer. God of 3 Abrahamic faiths is crazy.

Akanksha

I pity all braindead zombies whose ancestors were forcibly converted to Muhammadanism by rapist mass-murderer barbaric Arabian , Persian intruders.
Sunni muslims of ISIS are true muslims. They are seriously and sincerely following Arab prophet.

raj.hyd
@ akanksha ji , muslim ho ya isaai adi yah dharm nahi hai apitu ek giroh matr hai kuran me anek jagah unko giroh kaha gaya hai ! islam ek rajnatik samajik andolan raha hai n ki dharmik ? is giroh me kuch “jhuthan” me naitik bate jarur ho sakti… Read more »
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Fuzail Ahmad
raj

Fuzail ahhmad , Your answers are laughable.

You asked why didnot vedic God create nature and souls?he was not powerful.???

If Allah created everything by himself where from bad property and ignorance came?

Allah had those properties???

Arya Veer
plz can anybody explain this what does heaven mean here इयं विसृष्टिर्यत ।आबभूव यदि वा दधॆ यदि वा न । यॊ ।आस्याध्यक्ष: परमॆ व्यॊमन्त्सॊ आंग वॆद यदि वा न वॆद ॥७॥ Whence all creation had its origin, he, whether he fashioned it or whether he did not, he, who surveys… Read more »
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Veera Raghavaiah
A few associated concepts: we get intelligence and knowledge as given by god. If a man is bad, it is because god gave him that much thinking ability and such circumstances. If same thinking and environment is given to two people both will behave equally. So, good and bad are… Read more »
Vinay Mangal
Hi Agniveer! I recently been drawn to your excellent website. To continue the argument in context of the article in discussion here, below are the points – Jeev is the vehicle, which through Karma, leads an Aatma to merge with its ultimate goal i.e. Parmatma. Getting merged with Partmatma is… Read more »
Amul Arya(Abu Masood)
Amul Arya(Abu Masood)

great article

krishnarao
Prophet vs Rishi So I’ve seen a major misunderstanding of the concept of Rishi by both Hindus and non-Hindus alike. Rishi: Is someone who has used techniques (meditation/Yoga) to connect with God and reach enlightenment. This is someone who had a first hand experience of God and they have reached… Read more »
Numan
Hi agniveer, I am a Muslim, I came across this article while searching something, I think you have not learned about Islam properly.. I will show you the error you made in your very first point. you said God is being impartial and unjust by sending those children to paradise… Read more »
Angira
@Numan, there is not error in article but in your interpretation,you mean to say that the offspring of someone is being produced for test of their parents by allah? Did not allah give the soul to offspring as he gave to their parents or allah does discrimination among souls? to… Read more »
Raju

Love Jihad, Conversions, and counterfeit currency for destroying Kerala http://www.haindavakeralam.com/HkPage.aspx?PAGEID=16183&SKIN=C

gaurav
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Resident Jew

Oh and contrary to what you said there ARE Jews that believe in reincarnation.

KalBhairav

@Resident Jew:

That is interesting that Jews believe in reincarnation. Could you elaborate a bit about Jewish beliefs of the afterlife?

Thanks.

Veera Raghavaiah

These jews must be modern jews, but not those who accept judaism as it is. Now days many westerners are attracted to the concept of re-birth (re-birth is more deserved by anyone than single birth)

Arun

They are actually more orthodox Jews who believe in reincarnation and not the modern liberal Jews. See link below.
http://jewishthoughtandinsight.blogspot.com/2007/10/jewish-view-of-reincarnation-chance-to.html

for more on this google conservative or orthodox jewish reincarnation

Resident Jew

Jews don’t believe in Hell.

The Global Voice of Muslim
Dear Brothers and Sister in faith May God’s blessing be on you. I have just got to know about this site through a facebook sponsored ad and as guessed found the exact. The whole agenda of this site is to popularize the dead Hinduism. Before replying to any questions raised… Read more »
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Q 1 – Vedas tells us to pray the ominipresent, unseen God, but why do Hindus (majority) do idol worship which absolutely against the teachings of Vedas? A1 – Vedas say god is formless. It also says that God is present in each and every item in this world. Worshipping… Read more »
Amandeep Singh
@ The Global Voice of Muslim:- whatever you say to protect your religion, the fact remains the same i.e, Why all the terrorists are muslims? Is that what your Allah has taught you? Is that what is written in your holy book or Is it what is taught by Muhammed… Read more »
Amandeep Singh
@ The Global Voice of Muslim:- whatever you say to protect your religion, the fact remains the same i.e, Why all the terrorists are muslims? Is that what your Allah has taught you? Is that what is written in your holy book or Is it what is taught by Muhammed… Read more »
MOHAMMED = SATAN.
May blessings be on you too… Well, the rulebook says that when you view a website containing articles by someone: You should know who is the owner. Let me tell you that Agniveer isn’t against Islam. I can refute your all claims but I don’t like to. I would only… Read more »
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Gandhi’s Observation About Religious Zeal Gandhi, in his autobiography ‘The Story Of My Experiments With Truth’, writes, “… many things combined to inculcate in me a tolerance for all faiths. … Only Christianity was at the time an exception. I developed a sort of dislike for it. And for a… Read more »
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e buniyad sawalat hai aap ke.. agar mai is tarah ka prashn karunga to aap 100 janmo me uska uttar nahi de sakte hai.. misal k taor pe… ye duniya kyu banaai gai.. agar ishvar chahta to bina mehanat ke hamko khana khil sakta tha fir itani mehanat kyu? koi… Read more »
Man

Aur ved bare men apka khyal hai.

wo kya direct asman se utri hai

maine pucha tha
yajur ved men kitne mantr hai par apne uttar nahi diya

Mozlem

Bahi mantar kay nuber say kya hotay hai. Kya aap numbr jan kar unko smaj lenge?

Truth Seeker

@Shabber
Why should I believe in a book like Kuran which proves Allah knowledge is not eternal because he got the idea of universe creation just 5 billion years before.

raj.hyd
mnniy man ji , ham par tohamat kyo lagana chhate hai ? hamne kaha tha ki ham jahan par baihe hai vahan par ved nnahi hai isliye hamsahi sankhya batlane me asmarth hai fir bhi ap janna chahte hai to karib do hajar mantra yajurved me hai ! hm karib… Read more »
Man
mr. raj Quran ki hifazat ALLAH ne li hai ise chahkar bhi koi nahin badal sakta yahan tak ki agar 1 zabar tak ka koi farq kare to pakra jayega aur yehai wajah hai ki ek 9 saal ka bachcha bhi poore quran ko yaad kar leta hai. hamen to… Read more »
yunus

@Man
why Allah didn’t protect his previous words like Bible? was he unable to do so, or later he came to know that he must protect his word? if the story of corruption of bible is true than the man is mightier than Allah.

krishna arya

acha allah miyan toh quran ki hifazat karne ka khyal pichli teen kitabo ke khrab ho jane ke bad mein aaya ?
injil, torait, aadi ko bachane ki kyu na soch li??

chalie theek hai aapka allah lagta hai abhi seekh raha hai!!
dheere dheere aur bhi bahut kuch seekh lega!!

raj.hyd
ham jahan par ajkal rahate hai , vahan par ved nahi hai isliye ham sahi sankha batlane me asmarth hai 1 lekin koin koi ya kuch din bad ham apko jarur uttar de denge ! kya khuda ji nasihat lete hai ya sikhte hai 1 usne tauret , jabur injil… Read more »
Vajra

Namaste Man

Aapse guzarish hai ki isko padhen http://satyagni.com/3118/miracle-islam/

Man
agniveer jee ne jo bate yehaan par kaheen hain wo tak mayne nahin rakhti jabtak uska jawab wo ved se na den. har sawal 1 jawab chahta hai. agar in sab dharmon men ye sab baten nahi samajhne yogy hain to agniveer jee ap ise ved se samjhayen kyun ki… Read more »
raj.hyd
manniy man ji . tab hamari ulajahan dur kyo nahi kar dete , hamko bhi gaharai me le chaliye ! apko yah batlaya to ja raha hai ved mane gyan uske madhyam se ap chahe to ishvar ko samajh sakte hai fir bhi agar apko kurani khuda achha lagta hai… Read more »
Man
Mr. agniveer saheb. apne jo article likha wo islam, cristian aur judaism par likha jo baaten apne unke khilaf ki… par usk jawab apne apne dharm se to diya hi nahi. ap apne dharm ka parchar kar rahen hain ya dusre dharm par comment. kyun ki jab “shankar jee apne… Read more »
raj.hyd
manniy man ji , apko kya taklif ho rahi hai , yah to batlaiye ! jab ibrahim ji khuda ko apna beta samarpit kar sakte hai uski hatya ke liye taiyar ho sakte hai ,muhammad ji satve asman ja kar khuda se mil kar ek rat me hi vapas a… Read more »
Chandrakanth

Sir,
I can understand your questions ,your answers ,your doubts and your statements,… One thing i need to clarify about you sir . Where could i meet you personally sir ?
Please give me the details.Thank you.

Dipankar
A one man kill a one people, he get only one noose, but he kill hundred peoples he get hundred times noose, but this system earthally not possible,hence god created hell.and one man gift a one man,he get one time gift, but he gifts hundread mans he gets hundread times… Read more »
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abhijeet4288
Swami Vivekananda (1863-1902), Indian spiritualist On 9/11/1893 at World Parliament of Religions, Chicago he said to the gathering “We who had come from the east have sat here day after day and have been told in a patronizing way that we ought to accept Christianity because Christian nations are the… Read more »
MOHAMMED = SATAN.
but they dare not do this to the Mohammedans of India, for the sword will be out, but the Hindu is too mild. This is the only reason why SATAN worshippers – Christians & Mohammedans ruled us. Unfortunately, Hindus were too peaceful to react. The bitter truth of those 2… Read more »
even i cud be the next prophet... :)
even i cud be the next prophet... :)
@abhijeet: nice post.. this is wht real human shud be like……… we have a history that we have won more battles with peace than wars….. who so ever tried to take violence as the only way to stand against ne enemy … have perished……… without giving much results…. but its… Read more »
mahadaya
Dear Indian Agnostic, As i said earlier, you learned history from what source? Goggle owns by who? Who decide what is right or wrong? How do you know that that whatever are feed to you are right? Have you found any greatness by having knowledge that everybody in this world… Read more »
Indian Agnostic
Dear Mahadaya, ▣you ask :As i said earlier, you learned history from what source?▣ All from authentic sources my friend. For example, the history of barbarism of Islamic Invaders can be best studied through their autobiographies or that of muslim historians of that time. ▣you ask: Goggle owns by who?… Read more »
Indian Agnostic
Dear Mahadaya, ▣you ask :As i said earlier, you learned history from what source?▣ All from authentic sources my friend. For example, the history of barbarism of Islamic Invaders can be best studied through their autobiographies or that of muslim historians of that time. ▣you ask: Goggle owns by who?… Read more »
mahadaya
Mr Indian Agnostic, Did I say Abraham religion is Judaism? When did the term HINDU created? The VEDAs did not talk abot Hindhuism. God’s message always got corrupted by the enemy of God. Why did God allow it to corrupt? Well, if is not corrupted then how to test who… Read more »
Indian Agnostic
Mr Mahadaya ❶The term Hindu was coined by the greeks and persians long before the arabic ghazis razed indian shores ❷Now i am dead sure that you are google-blind ..otherwise you would not made the preposterous argument about Sanskrit.I leave this argument till the time you are grown up enough… Read more »
Milan

what do vedas say about hell/heaven?

mahadaya
A lot of people are clueless of what does it mean by END OF THE WORLD. Well, actually everything that happen is by the will of God. As the religion of God is no longer existed in this world, God will sent back his messenger to preach the religion. The… Read more »
Justin

And I assume you’re part of this mathematically miniscule statistic of saved people huh?

mahadaya
I am a follower of the religion of Abraham. This is the oldest religion in the world and this is the religion that has been corrupted by the enemy of god and that is why through out time the messengers and prophets are sent to preach back this religion to… Read more »
Indian Agnostic
@mahadaya ➊ Since your madarsa may not have an internet connection, let me share with you the fact that the ‘oldest living religion’ of the world is Hinduism and NOT that of Abraham which started with Judaism ➋ You say that the message of your Allah was corrupted by previous… Read more »
ubaidullah23
brother, i'm a Muslim (Alhamdulillah) and am near to the heaven and the hell as you are, Allah knows the best, for now, i guess you're too much in anger and ignorance so i won't advice you to understand Quran or Bible this time, 'cuz you won't understand them in… Read more »
prashant
brother, i’m a hindu (namaskar) and am near to the heaven and the hell as you are, Allah knows the best, for now, i guess you’re too much in anger and ignorance so i won’t advice you to understand vedas or upanishads this time, ‘cuz you won’t understand them in… Read more »
Aditya
Dear brother! you should never blindly believe in anything.You have to question everything.Questioning is the highest form of acquiring knowledge.You should also question god and the beliefs .The more you question about god,the more closer you become to him. If you don’t get a proper answer,it means there is a… Read more »
Mozlem
So worlds fastest growing relgion does not mean anything to do with intelligence. There are more animals then muslims, more fish more birds so forth. Does it have anything to do with heaven or hell or with any rational intelligence. So increase population by producing worthless issues so all live… Read more »
brahman
@ all muslim frnds, u all just belive one persone saying without confirming whether it is true or not. as per bhagwat dharma god lives in every person every creature inside. is is servyapak serva shaktiman. he dont need to testify any body. you person do each and every thing… Read more »
Proud to be a Kafir

@ubaidullah
1. We have already gone thru all the scriptures that you advised us to read, now pls clear our misconception and answer about the anomallies pointed out on this site about quran & bible
2.Why via mail brother. Why not on a public forum like this to clear our ignorance

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Siva

Thank you; very good argument.

GOD IS GREAT
One point needs to be made here. Archaeologists have found that life started in India. Oldest inhabitant place in the world is Varanasi. Fossils of humans were found as old as 27,000 years old. Adolf Sielacher and other archaeologists were shocked when they found that fossils in India have beaten… Read more »
Nivas
Are you crazy? In africa, the civilization is the oldest. Fossils of 5 lakh years old have been found. These humanoids all were in africa. Only after the first homo sapiens came did they migrate out of africa. Where did you get the craziest that 27000 years was the oldest… Read more »
Vikram Adithya
“war in 3000BC, then why is there no radiation?” Untold truths of Harappa, there were many skeletons found in roads/streets, homes, it feels like they died by some magic… untold truth is those skeletons are radioactive.. I am not concluding mahabharatha happened there or some bomb dropped there, but it… Read more »
VEDIC GOD IS GREAT
Brother Nivas! Don’t be angry. Regarding Indian civilization, yes – it was wrong to conclude that oldest fossil was only 27,000 years old. Archeologists were shocked to find stone inscriptions which was approximately 2.2 million year old. AFP Washington reports in Science Magazine that German Scientist Adolf Seilachar and Indian… Read more »
GOD IS GREAT
… Vaishampayana first told to Janamejaya. He requested Lord Ganesha to help. He then consolidated Vedas in 2nd millenium BCE. NOTE that Veda Vyasa is only consolidator and NOT the creator of Vedas. If wars like Mahabharata will keep on happening, who will preserve divine knowledge and how? So, he… Read more »
GOD IS GREAT
… The word Sanatan Dharma existed but that relates to eternalness. While Bible / Quran speaks of welfare of I or we; Vedas think for all: सर्वे भवंतु सुखिन सर्वे संतु निरामया । सर्वे भद्रानि पश्यंतु मा कश्चिद्दु:खभागभवेत ॥ ) The thing to be learnt from this is, understanding religion… Read more »
Farah
Mr Agniveer go sleep somewhere, you need rest! tomorrow, May Allah Guide you before that, if you also go to hell , even you will say, Yes Allah You Are the Most Just, this is what i deserve. You will testify yourself. thats a challenge. See you on the day… Read more »
slave of God
1. you asked those new born child they go to Heaven and rest of the world we go Heaven or Hell according to their deeds so you asked Is God unjust? No! because Qur’an gives the answer,”we created dead and life to test you” it only means the new born… Read more »
Mozlem
Why did Allah write or reveal Quran in Arabic only. Why not in all human languages. When only bodily perfect humans will be allowed in heaven why did he attach the extra foreskin to all Mulims so there is need to cut it. What happens to imperfect men (mutilation from… Read more »
Justin
@ myreplytoyourfoolishargumentsaboutgod: How can you believe that everyone regardless of environment will undoubtedly have signs shown to them that the Christian/Muslim beliefs are true. If this was obvious as you say it is, then most people would be the religion that these signs correlate to. Personally, I was raised in… Read more »
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