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Why I am a Hindu

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It is possible that this post is based on the translations and commentaries of Islamic texts like Quran, Hadiths etc. as published by all major Islamic publishing sources. These are the publicly available translations that are used for promotion of Islam by prominent representatives.

We, however, believe that most of these texts have been wrongly translated, misinterpreted, misquoted or even have been tampered with and interpolated to suit the selfish designs of proponents of Islam after Muhammad. Thus, we believe that original Islam and original Quran of Muhammad are totally different from what have been propagated by his followers in name of Islam. There are few minority groups in Muslims whose scholars subscribe to our views and interpret/translate Islamic texts differently or even refuse to consider the available Quran and Hadiths as authentic. But these scholars themselves are considered Kafirs and are condemned by a dominant elite group of Islam. Thus, when we refer to Islam, we actually imply these dominant elites of Islam and not Muslims or all Islamic scholars in general.

Wherever we critically evaluate Muhammad, we imply the fictitious Muhammad propagated by these false texts or their wrong translations and not the original Muhammad. We have high regard for original Muhammad who stood for non-violence and tolerance. Similarly, when we analyze Islamic texts, we refer to these questionable translations/versions and NOT original texts.

Further, we have a sense of the highest level of brotherhood for Muslims in general. Wherever we use the word Muslim in a critical manner, it refers to false representatives of Islam and not Muslims in general. Readers are requested to keep this in mind to understand the correct perspective of such posts on this website.

Nowhere should they assume the words like Islam, Quran, Prophet etc. to be referring to original noble entities, unless it has been referred in a positive light. We restrict ourselves only to notions prevalent in minds of fanatics and those without reason.

अस्वीकरण पढ़ें

इस पूरी वेबसाईट में जहाँ भी ‘इस्लाम’ वा ‘मुसलमान’ वा पैग़म्बर आदि मज़हबी शब्दों का प्रयोग हुआ है, उसका अर्थ केवल और केवल इस्लाम वा मुसलमान वा पैग़म्बर आदि शब्दों की वह व्याख्या है जो कट्टर इस्लाम के मशहूर और लोकप्रिय प्रचारक जैसे - ज़ाकिर नाईक़, अंजम चौधरी, हाफ़िज़ सईद, मौलाना इसरार अहमद, मौलाना मसूद अज़हर और उनके समर्थक करते हैं जिसके अनुसार हर ग़ैर-मुसलमान जहन्नम/नर्क की आग में जलेगा और हर इस्लाम छोड़ने वाले को क़त्ल कर देना चाहिए।

इस पूरी वेबसाईट में जहाँ भी ‘क़ुरान’ शब्द प्रयुक्त हुआ है, उसका अर्थ क़ुरान की पुस्तक के वो अनुवाद और व्याख्याएँ हैं जो कट्टर इस्लाम के प्रतिनिधियों द्वारा इंटरनेट और अन्य स्थानों पर प्रचारित-प्रसारित की जाती हैं जिन्हें पढ़कर कमज़ोर दिल के लोग कट्टरता की दिशा में मुड़ रहे हैं। हम जानते हैं कि क़ुरान व उपरिलिखित शब्दों की कुछ व्याख्याएँ ऐसी भी हैं जो हिंसा को आज के दिन ठीक नहीं समझतीं, एवं ग़ैरमज़हबी मानवता पर बल देती है पर ऐसी व्याख्याएँ और व्याख्याता कट्टर इस्लाम के प्रतिनिधियों और उनके अनुयायियों की दृष्टि में मुर्तद (मुसलमान जिसने इस्लाम छोड़ दिया हो) घोषित किए गए हैं। ऐसे व्याख्याता और उनकी व्याख्याएँ इस वेबसाईट के विषय नहीं हैं। चिंता का विषय है कि आज इंटर्नेट आदि माध्यमों में कट्टरवादी व्याख्याओं का बाहुल्य है एवं उदारवादी सहिष्णु व्याख्याएँ दुष्प्राप्य हैं।

हम मानते हैं कि मूल इस्लाम, पैग़म्बर, क़ुरान आदि बहुत प्रेम और आनंद सिखाते होंगे। परंतु इस वेबसाईट में इन शब्दों से केवल वो अर्थ लिए जाएँ जो नवीन लोगों ने अपने हिसाब से अपने मिलावटी ग्रंथ/अनुवाद बना लिए हैं। हम इन मिलावटी ग्रंथों/अनुवादों को ठीक नहीं मानते और हमारी इस्लाम, पैग़म्बर या क़ुरान आदि विषयों की व्याख्या को आज के कट्टरवादी प्रचलित/मिलावटी अनुवादों के संदर्भ में ही लिया जाए। हमारी कोई बात मूल इस्लाम, पैग़म्बर और क़ुरान के लिए नहीं है। उसके लिए तो बस सम्मान है।

किसी भी व्यक्ति, समुदाय, उदारवादी विचारधारा की भावना को ठेस पहुँचाना इस वेबसाईट का उद्देश्य नहीं है। किंतु विषय गम्भीर है, संवेदनशील है। प्रचारित इतिहास पर प्रश्नचिन्ह उठाता है। कुछ स्थानों पर एतिहासिक विषयों को नाटकीय रूप में भी प्रस्तुत किया गया है। अतः यह निवेदन है कि यदि इन विषयों को लेकर आप किंचित भी संवेदनशील है तो इस वेबसाईट को आगे न पढ़ें। यह वेबसाईट केवल परिपक्व मनस हेतु है जो इस अस्वीकरण को ध्यान रखते हुए, हमारी मूल भावना का सम्मान करते हुए, हमारे सृजनात्मक अभिव्यक्ति के अधिकार को अंगीकार कर सकें।

1. Because the word Hindu represents the wisdom of centuries that is distilled into our various ways of living that is characteristic of my motherland.
2. Because we all identify with the name Hindu for generations. It becomes a symbol of our unity.
3. Because under threat of various obvious and not-so-obvious forces that are bent on destroying our culture through corrupt means, we need to unite under one flag.
4. Because while we agree that name Hindu is not an eternal representative of our culture, the time is not right to force any change. Because this will lead to confusion and we cannot afford that under current circumstances.
5. Because right now, we should focus on increasing our strength and potential so that we can be in a position where we can dictate the direction of politics and policies of our nation.
6. Because  once we are strong, we can always revert back to our original name in a planned manner. But currently, we are already weak due to backstabbing by those who promised to represent us. We have already suffered huge setbacks due to impotencies of those who were supposed to be brave defenders of truth. We are already debilitated from empty talks of our false leaders. Right now is the time to stand, unite and fight again..for truth and justice.
7. Because a name that is not characteristic of its meaning is also a joke. Let us first strive to be Arya by example, and then we would have gained all the power to revert to our original name. The truth is that while we may call ourselves Arya due to historical reasons, our lives do not exemplify this noble world.
8. Because right now the priority should be to make ourselves Arya – in thoughts, words and action. And once we have converted our population into a responsible army of humanity and justice , the need for change would come from within.
Thus I am Arya. I am a Hindu.

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Read Post Disclaimer

It is possible that this post is based on the translations and commentaries of Islamic texts like Quran, Hadiths etc. as published by all major Islamic publishing sources. These are the publicly available translations that are used for promotion of Islam by prominent representatives.

We, however, believe that most of these texts have been wrongly translated, misinterpreted, misquoted or even have been tampered with and interpolated to suit the selfish designs of proponents of Islam after Muhammad. Thus, we believe that original Islam and original Quran of Muhammad are totally different from what have been propagated by his followers in name of Islam. There are few minority groups in Muslims whose scholars subscribe to our views and interpret/translate Islamic texts differently or even refuse to consider the available Quran and Hadiths as authentic. But these scholars themselves are considered Kafirs and are condemned by a dominant elite group of Islam. Thus, when we refer to Islam, we actually imply these dominant elites of Islam and not Muslims or all Islamic scholars in general.

Wherever we critically evaluate Muhammad, we imply the fictitious Muhammad propagated by these false texts or their wrong translations and not the original Muhammad. We have high regard for original Muhammad who stood for non-violence and tolerance. Similarly, when we analyze Islamic texts, we refer to these questionable translations/versions and NOT original texts.

Further, we have a sense of the highest level of brotherhood for Muslims in general. Wherever we use the word Muslim in a critical manner, it refers to false representatives of Islam and not Muslims in general. Readers are requested to keep this in mind to understand the correct perspective of such posts on this website.

Nowhere should they assume the words like Islam, Quran, Prophet etc. to be referring to original noble entities, unless it has been referred in a positive light. We restrict ourselves only to notions prevalent in minds of fanatics and those without reason.

अस्वीकरण पढ़ें

इस पूरी वेबसाईट में जहाँ भी ‘इस्लाम’ वा ‘मुसलमान’ वा पैग़म्बर आदि मज़हबी शब्दों का प्रयोग हुआ है, उसका अर्थ केवल और केवल इस्लाम वा मुसलमान वा पैग़म्बर आदि शब्दों की वह व्याख्या है जो कट्टर इस्लाम के मशहूर और लोकप्रिय प्रचारक जैसे - ज़ाकिर नाईक़, अंजम चौधरी, हाफ़िज़ सईद, मौलाना इसरार अहमद, मौलाना मसूद अज़हर और उनके समर्थक करते हैं जिसके अनुसार हर ग़ैर-मुसलमान जहन्नम/नर्क की आग में जलेगा और हर इस्लाम छोड़ने वाले को क़त्ल कर देना चाहिए।

इस पूरी वेबसाईट में जहाँ भी ‘क़ुरान’ शब्द प्रयुक्त हुआ है, उसका अर्थ क़ुरान की पुस्तक के वो अनुवाद और व्याख्याएँ हैं जो कट्टर इस्लाम के प्रतिनिधियों द्वारा इंटरनेट और अन्य स्थानों पर प्रचारित-प्रसारित की जाती हैं जिन्हें पढ़कर कमज़ोर दिल के लोग कट्टरता की दिशा में मुड़ रहे हैं। हम जानते हैं कि क़ुरान व उपरिलिखित शब्दों की कुछ व्याख्याएँ ऐसी भी हैं जो हिंसा को आज के दिन ठीक नहीं समझतीं, एवं ग़ैरमज़हबी मानवता पर बल देती है पर ऐसी व्याख्याएँ और व्याख्याता कट्टर इस्लाम के प्रतिनिधियों और उनके अनुयायियों की दृष्टि में मुर्तद (मुसलमान जिसने इस्लाम छोड़ दिया हो) घोषित किए गए हैं। ऐसे व्याख्याता और उनकी व्याख्याएँ इस वेबसाईट के विषय नहीं हैं। चिंता का विषय है कि आज इंटर्नेट आदि माध्यमों में कट्टरवादी व्याख्याओं का बाहुल्य है एवं उदारवादी सहिष्णु व्याख्याएँ दुष्प्राप्य हैं।

हम मानते हैं कि मूल इस्लाम, पैग़म्बर, क़ुरान आदि बहुत प्रेम और आनंद सिखाते होंगे। परंतु इस वेबसाईट में इन शब्दों से केवल वो अर्थ लिए जाएँ जो नवीन लोगों ने अपने हिसाब से अपने मिलावटी ग्रंथ/अनुवाद बना लिए हैं। हम इन मिलावटी ग्रंथों/अनुवादों को ठीक नहीं मानते और हमारी इस्लाम, पैग़म्बर या क़ुरान आदि विषयों की व्याख्या को आज के कट्टरवादी प्रचलित/मिलावटी अनुवादों के संदर्भ में ही लिया जाए। हमारी कोई बात मूल इस्लाम, पैग़म्बर और क़ुरान के लिए नहीं है। उसके लिए तो बस सम्मान है।

किसी भी व्यक्ति, समुदाय, उदारवादी विचारधारा की भावना को ठेस पहुँचाना इस वेबसाईट का उद्देश्य नहीं है। किंतु विषय गम्भीर है, संवेदनशील है। प्रचारित इतिहास पर प्रश्नचिन्ह उठाता है। कुछ स्थानों पर एतिहासिक विषयों को नाटकीय रूप में भी प्रस्तुत किया गया है। अतः यह निवेदन है कि यदि इन विषयों को लेकर आप किंचित भी संवेदनशील है तो इस वेबसाईट को आगे न पढ़ें। यह वेबसाईट केवल परिपक्व मनस हेतु है जो इस अस्वीकरण को ध्यान रखते हुए, हमारी मूल भावना का सम्मान करते हुए, हमारे सृजनात्मक अभिव्यक्ति के अधिकार को अंगीकार कर सकें।

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194 COMMENTS

  1. Dear Agniveer Ji,
    Namaste.
    Well Said.
    We all are with you. You are doing excellent job for coming generations.
    May Ishwar give you material and spiritual strength for this great noble cause.
    Dhanyawad.

  2. i m disappointed
    i felt so happy that finally someone is working to take away hindus from mental slavery of invaders when i saw “why i m not hindu ” but alas you backed down .
    this article just represents typical hindu mentality to make lies and live believing them only .

    • @Aarya:
      I’m disappointed. I was hoping you would work towards taking Muslims away from terrorism but alas you backed down. Any passage from the Quran/Hadith just represents hatred for anyone non-Muslim (Jew/Christian/Hindu/Buddhist). Hope you do not follow Quran/Hadith blindly but work towards providing a free marketplace for ideas (all other religions/atheism, etc.) in Momin-infested land.
      Hope you join the civilization of humans by junking Quran/Hadith completely.
      In anticipation.

      • Hope you join the civilization of humans by junking Quran/Hadith completely.
        ————————–
        are you blind with brain dude ? what the hell made you think i m muslim ?
        read my post three more times and understand what i m saying .
        KRUNWATO VISHMAAARYAN

      • @Aarya:
        Aah well…folks come here with multiple motives…Some try to push Aryan invasion theory, some try to push Advaita/Visishtadvaita/Dvaita debate, some Muslims try to act and convince us that Mohammed was the greatest man to ever walk the planet.
        In any case, if you think Mohammed was a false prophet (as your post would seem to indicate?) I dont have any problems with your position. My bad.

      • 🙂
        i can understand bro . its ok then
        sorry for using harsh words
        only thing is i hate this hindu word , it about the time when we all should throw away this slavery and weaknesses from us
        its the time when should adopt Aaryatwa in every aspect of life to eradicate all adharma from society .
        that is the mission our ancestors given to us , that is why i m an Aarya

  3. thinking about it , agniveer don’t have any moral right to oppose idol worshiping . at least idol worshiping was started by some of our people only not by invaders . if invaders tag is ok why not idol worshiping ?
    and whats with point 2 ? unity in hinduz? where you saw that exactly ? with hinduz comes cast , ignorance, sheep behavior without self-study, your just doing the same mistake vivekanada did when he spoke against word hindu but later had to keep quite . if not us then who ?
    without “Aarya” there is no true unity , there is no hope .
    we just need to make people understand who feel proud in stupid word hindu, i talked with many and many understood . “proud to be hindu” is now past thing ….. “Be AARYA” is whats need of time .
    sanatan Dharma can never be associated with birth until person follows it nor sacred veda can be called as “religious scriptures” when we don’t have religion at all. we have only Dharma and there is great difference between Dharma and narrow minded concept of religion..

    • it is very good.. that you are upholding the ancient name arya…
      but by start critisizing hindus,,, would just make arya another sect , another religion…
      which would be very opposite to what dayananda saaswati wished!
      reason to this.. even swami dayananda did not so harshly opposed the word “hindu” !!
      yes we need to rename ourselves as arya… but same time we shall not do this by telling hindus that you are nothing… but just saying that you are arya actually!! not saying you are hindu i am arya.. become arya!! but saying you are arya actually…. so get back to your roots… and this does not need hatred but compassion.. bro!
      had agniveer used a language as you are using.. i would have never—– stopped here, read agniveer and become an arya from a puranic.
      i would have at first left this site tagging agniveer as muslim in guise of a hindu!

      • There is 2 sects in world which nothing can vanish , the Dharma followers and Adharma followers . we are just Aarya , no need for this hinduz stuff .
        it should be opposed harshly only else it will remain in society like this dumb cast system. many of our people who knew truth made the same mistake of keeping quite over it .
        if they want to be saved they should realize the truth and follow it , they are not doing favor on Dharma . why should they love word hindu other than what our scriptures and sages told ? let them think whatever they want . just delete this article which supports that birth associated crap. its equally dumb like cast-system , if we oppose it why not word Hinduz?

  4. Sayana, a fourteenth century Indian scholar,in his commentary on a hymn in the Rig Veda, the oldest and perhaps most mystical text ever , Sayana has this to say: “With deep respect, I bow to the sun, who travels 2,202 yojanas in half a nimesha.”A yojana is about 9 American miles; a nimesha is 16/75 of a second.get out your calculators! (2,202 yojanas x 9 miles x 75 )/8 nimeshas = 185,794 m.p.s. Sayana is saying that sunlight travels at 186,000 miles per second=2.995 x 10 raise to 8 m/s! (1 mile=1.61 km.u can convert to m/s).How could a Vedic scholar who died in 1387 A.D. have known the correct figure for the speed of light? If this was just a wild guess, it’s the most amazing coincidence in the history of science!
    I humbly bow to the greatest tradition which has produced the most brilliant minds ever! Spread this msg far and wide.
    Om

    • HINDU is a culture with most advance skill in all aspects of life including astrophysics,if a great schollar in 14th century can predict exect speed of light.It was during the begining of the eras as per our last yuga called dwapar yuga almost 5000yrs ago,the war faught between pandawas & kauravas was highly based on technology of todays time.Difference we finds we dont have an evidence in written form or if available in sanskrit of olden age no schollar to translate the same.

      • Sarang and UTTAM jee,
        Just saying something to be known. In Q&A form
        Q: Who discovered gravitation principles?
        Ans: Brahmagupta. Predating Newton by 1000 years.
        Q: Which book taught the origin of Universe to Albert Einstein?
        Ans: Shrimad Bhagwad Gita
        Q: Which is best electromagnetic healer known to man?
        Ans: Rudraksha beads
        Q: Which was oldest astronomy system?
        Ans: That of Jyotisha Vedanga about 6,000 to 13,000 years old. Vary by 35 seconds only compared to modern systems.
        Q: From which resource did Erwin Schrodinger find basics of Quantum metaphysics?
        Ans: Vedanta
        Q: After referring to which text, Julius Robert Openheimer discovered ancient nuclear war?
        Ans: Mahabharata
        Q: Which was first mass destruction weapon known to mankind?
        Ans: Brahmastra
        Q: Which single sentence had both ethics and metaphysics encorporated?
        Ans: Tat twam asi (Chandogya Upanishad)
        Q: Which was biggest number ever used?
        Ans: Refer Valmiki Ramayana Yuddha Kanda 28 chapter – It is Maha Ougha – 10^62
        Q: Where is Pythagorus Theorem first stated and proved?
        Ans: Shulabh Sutra by Baudhayana – 3 centuries before Pythagorus
        Q: Where is Archimedes principle first discussed?
        Ans: Vaisheshik Sutra – 2 centuries before birth of Archimedes
        Q: Which is textbook of embryology?
        Ans: Garbha Upanishad
        Q: According to CERN, energy performs a continuous dance of creation, preservation, destruction within each atom. Which dance is it?
        Ans: Tandava of lord Nataraja. CERN itself has 2.5m tall Nataraj statue
        Q: Which language is declared most perfect by scholars worldwide?
        Ans: Sanskrit
        Q: Who is father of heliocentric model?
        Ans: Literature evidence is Rig Veda while man was Aryabhata
        Q: Who discovered binary number system?
        Ans: Pingala Acharya
        Q: Which is the fastest and simplest form of calculations ever known to mankind?
        Ans: Vedic Mathematics (now termed as Mental Maths)
        Q: Spacecraft construction discussed in which book?
        Ans: Vaimaanik Shashtra by Acharya Bharadwaj
        Q: Any literature…

      • Q: Any literature evidence on electric cell working?
        Ans: Agastya Samhita
        Q: Numbers (positive, negative and the 0) and infinity owes origin to ?
        Ans: Ancient Indian mathematicians
        Q: First 100 terms of Fibonacci series are in which book?
        Ans: Maatraamer
        Q: The oldest inhabitant city?
        Ans: Varanasi
        Q: Who discovered Taylor series, Newton power series, Gregory Leibnitz series etc.?
        Ans: Madhwacharya
        Q: The best strategist and economist known till date?
        Ans: Chanakya / Kautilya / Vishnugupta
        Q: Most classic fables ever known.
        Ans: Panchtantra. 2nd best selling book – translated to >> 500 languages. Arabian Nights and Aesop fable plagiarized ideas from it.
        Q: World Engineer Day is whose birth day?
        Ans: Sir Mokshagundam Vishveshvaraiyya
        Q: Who is actual father of wireless telephony?
        Ans: Jagadish Chandra Bose (Not Guglielmo Marconi – IEEE proved it)
        Q: Who was the legendary person to state and prove 3542 theorems?
        Ans: Shrinivasa Ramanujam
        Q: In which text was robotics used?
        Ans: Samarangam Sutradhara in 1050 AD
        Q: Where was Infra Red Band defined?
        Ans: Sulohita in 12 century BCE
        Q: Existence of fission and fusion reactions is where mentioned?
        Ans: Atharva Veda
        Q: The first rust resistant iron pillar exists where?
        Ans: New Delhi; established around 900 BCE.
        Q: Who is father of plastic surgery?
        Ans: Acharya Sushruta.
        Some extra points:
        Govindaswami discovered Newton Gauss Interpolation formula about 1800 years before Newton.
        Vateswaracharya discovered Newton Gauss Backward Interpolation formula about 1000 years before Newton.
        Parameswaracharya discovered Lhuiler’s formula about 400 years before Lhuiler.
        Nilakantha discovered Newton’s Infinite Geometric Progression convergent series.
        Puthumana Somayaji discovered Demovier’s infinite series in 1140 AD i.e., more than 200 years before Demovier.
        Notable quotes:
        The Hindu systems of astronomy are by far the oldest and that from which the Egyptians, Greek, Romans and – even the Jews derived from the…

      • Notable quotes:
        The Hindu systems of astronomy are by far the oldest and that from which the Egyptians, Greek, Romans and – even the Jews derived from the Hindus their knowledge – Jean Sylvian Belly: French astronomer
        After a study of some forty years and more of the great religions of the world,
        I find none so perfect, none so scientific, none so philosophical and none so spiritual than the great religion known by the name of Hinduism – Annie Wood Besant: British theosophical society
        “The Vedas are noble documents, documents not only of value and pride to India but to the entire humanity, because in them we see man attempting to lift himself above the earthly existence.” – Prot. Pall Thema
        “Many of the advances in the sciences that we consider today to have been made in Europe were in fact made in India centuries ago.” – British Historians
        “The Hindus were so advance in surgery that their instruments could cut human hair longitudinally.” – MRS Plunket
        “Our present knowledge of the nervous system fits in so accurately with the internal description of the human body given in the Vedas. Then the question arises whether the Vedas are really religious books or books on anatomy of the nervous system and medicine.” – Rele (Jewish writer)
        “Gravitation was known to the Hindus (Indians) much before the birth of Newton. The system of blood circulation was discovered by them centuries before Harvey was heard of.” – P. Johnstone

  5. There is a difference between RELIGION and SPIRITUALISM. There is only ONE GOD. And God is PARAM ATMA(supreme soul). NIRA AKAAR(formless). God is in everything and every one and nobody is in GOD. It is purely based on the natural recourses available in different geographical regions of the earth which designed the ways of living our lives in the ways we do. The dirrent devis and devatas in HINDUISM are not GODs but ancient recognised energies emitted by various planets and stars that reached the earth and affected lives there on. And the different rituals were to attract or repell those energies to either benefit from them or safe guard oneself or a community from them. But even these rituals were directed to the supreme God a request for fulfillment.
    Due to illetracy in the common communities these rituals which were performed to please or attract the named energies, planets and stars got engraved in minds and understanding of the common man to be GOD(S). And these understandings and beliefs got carried and depositted or passed on to the future generations leading them away from SPIRITUALISM and understanding of the NIR AKAAR, PARAM ATMA THE ONE TRUE DIVINE GOD. These rituals were not possible in the desert areas and many other parts of the world as the samagri for these rituals were not available and some places even not affordable by the common man hence the need for different approach and form of worship.
    The confusion about hindus having many Gods needs to be removed by replacing them with the original understandings of God through the VEDAS and UPANISHADS. GOD IS ONE. There are not too many Gods. GOD does not take birth. God does not die. WHEN THERE WAS NOTHING THERE WAS GOD and WHEN THERE WILL BE NOTHING THERE WILL BE GOD. India when it was not even BHARATH it’s territories were not limited to what it is today. It was named as BHARATH much later. Prior to that it was a land with several small and large KINGDOMS. The separation went on shrinking this to become BHARATH at first and then TODAY’S INDIA. The different communities and languages that prevail in mordern India came to be much later in time. India has been invaded several times and one of such invasion closer to the mordern times brought ISLAM to India. INDIA is not a HINDU nation. We are a democratic republic.
    If only we can respect the rights one another to practice our faith the way we understand our approach to GOD we can all live in harmony and peace. But the truth is that MUSLIMS just cannot accept to respect the beliefs of Hindus because their understanding tells them that HINDUS are KAAFIRS. And this is not correct. KAAFIR is he who does not believe in the existence of GOD. One who detests others that others dont believe in what they believe. AND THIS IS THE PROBLEM. This is why ONLY MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS.

  6. Time and again GOD has sent Hrishees( messengers) and mahahrishees( prophets) into this world to spread the word of GOD and to show the path of righteousness to mankind. And Prophet Mohammad was one of them whom God chose to enlighten the people of a region were tyranny and atrocities and barberism had reached untolerable and unbearable limits.
    The teachings in all holy scriptures and sacred books must be respected. Just because you do not like a person you should not say bad things about his or her mother or father similarly because a lot of muslims are terrorists it does not mean we should HATE or DISLIKE or DETEST other muslims. ALL FIVE FINGERS ARE NOT EQUAL. They think that the world should follow their path and accept Islam as their faith. If only they would consider to understand the UPANISHADS and vedas AND COMPARE THAT THE TEACHINGS IN QURAN are no different than them.

  7. “When I read the Bhagavad
    Gita and reflect about how
    God created this universe
    everything else seems so
    superfluous.”
    – Albert Einstein
    i wonder what he would say if he had a good english translation of vedas which form the basis of all philosophies of east from which even gita has borrowed wisdom.

  8. brothers, is this true?.
    Rama: ”Are you a
    Brahman, or an
    irrepressible Ksatriya
    or the third caste
    Vaisya or a Sudra?
    Speak the truth and
    you shall be crowned
    with auspiciousness.’
    Hearing the words of
    Rama, the ascetic,
    whose face was
    downwards, gave out
    his degraded birth and
    communicated unto
    him for what he was
    performing ascetic
    observances. Hearing
    the words of Rama of
    unwearied actions, the
    ascetic, with his face
    downwards, said, ‘O
    highly illustrious Rama, I
    am born in the race of
    Sudras; and with a view
    to reach the region of
    the celestials with my
    body I am going through
    these austere
    penances. O Kakutstha
    (Rama), I shall never
    utter a falsehood since
    I am willing to conquer
    the region of gods. I am
    a Sudra and my name is
    Sambuka.’ The Sudra
    ascetic having said this,
    Rama took out of
    scabbard a beautiful
    sharp sword and
    chopped off his head
    therewith. And that
    Sudra being slain, Indra,
    Agni and other
    celestials praised him
    again and again and
    showered flowers.” —
    Ramayana 7:88-89.

    • Namaste Sarang
      This entry is discarded as a later day addition to the Ramayan. As is known to all , Valmiki himself belonged to the Chandala Varna before becoming a saint.
      Also this runs directly in contradiction with the other incidents of Ramayan..if Ram had no problem eating Shabari’s leftover berries..how could he kill someone doing penance.
      and the most interesting thing is that it was a shudra on whose objection Ram abandoned Sita.Wouldn’t he have chopped off this guys head instead?
      this charge doesnt stand in my opinion

      • Historically and literally, the story of Shambuk’s death is illegal and invalid. However, as per my talk with few Yogis, that story has some spiritual connection.
        Ram was not even knowing that Shambuk was busy doing tapasyaa. One day, a Brahmin came and said – my baby died suddenly. Ram should do the justice. Ram was shocked to hear sudden death of a Brahmin’s baby. ब्रह्मजानेति ब्राह्मणं – If you know that almighty completely, you become a Brahmin (regardless of caste and conduct by birth). Life starts from a baby. Baby of a Brahmin means beginning of a Brahma avastha meaning: supreme state of spirituality. But instead of progress, it suddenly finishes. Very beautifully narrated as death of a Brahmin baby. Ram’s teacher Vashishtha meditates and finds that a tapasya of a Shudra is dangerous for Ram’s kingdom. वशिष्ठ = वश् + इष्ट । जहा इष्ट प्रवृत्तियो का वास हो – उस परम सत्य को रामायणकार वशिष्ठ कहते है जो आनन्दावस्था अर्थात राम के गुरु दिखाए है। As per orders of his teacher, Ram decides to investigate. Then he meets Shambuk who was doing tapasyaa. But that killed a Brahmin baby? This means something was wrong in intentions. The body was inverted – head down and feet up. Normally, in hierarchy, the leader is on top. Inferior beings follow what the leader commands. Science declares brain to be leader and hence puts it on top. But Shambuk is opposite. His brain seems dominated by his feet. अम्बुक्रिया अर्थात अंतिम संस्कार। श् संस्कृत धातु है जिसका अर्थ है – कल्याण। इसी श् से (भगवान) शिव बने है । जो कल्याण का अंतिम संस्कार कर दे उस निकृष्ट प्रवृत्ति को रामाय़णकार “शुद्र भाव शम्बुक” एसा कहते है। Ram kills that is true but he kills that ill thinking (which is declared Shudra here) not a Shudra man. Yogis have declared that Sanskrit should be never taken simply literally. It needs to be analyzed and discussed with spiritual experiences.

      • Shambuk is not a man. It is any thinking that deviates any one from welfare. The thoughts of mind against universal welfare. Ram kills that ill thinking – The deities (energy directed for benefit of society) elevate. Ram requests them to give life to dead Brahmin baby.
        वह ब्रह्मावस्था जो निकृष्ट विचारो के कारण नष्ट हो गई थी – उन विचारो के हनन के बाद पुन: सजीव हो उठती है। फिर वह उन्नति के मार्ग पर अग्रसर कराती है। वह मृत ब्राह्मण शिशु, क्षुद्रभाव शम्बुक वध पश्चात जीवित हो गया।
        This is the true hidden meaning of the Shambuk’s incident. I don’t think there is anything unusual with it. This is clear common sense. Any meaning other than this is a disaster and needs to be discarded. Please don’t get trapped by those who know nothing about Sanskrit OR believe in wrong meanings.
        Remember Hitopadesha teaching – अनेक संशयोच्छेदी परोक्षार्थस्य दर्शकम् । सर्वस्यां लोचनं शास्त्रं यस्य नास्ति अन्धैव स: ॥ Cuts many doubts and shows the hidden truth – That science is true eye for everyone. You are blind if you don’t have it. THAT’S ALL.

  9. THIS ARTICLE SHOULD BE DELETED
    no need to allow hinduz use of word hinduz anymore , the people who can’t leave invader given tag can never leave stupid castisem and craps made by own people
    if hinduz want to come out of the dustbin they are currently in by own karma they need to take first step by discarding this stupid word

    • Namaste Aarya
      Is changing name or mentality your first priority?
      Who will not allow Hindus use this word? You?
      How many of those who call themselves Aarya instead of Hindus marry by breaking barriers of caste? Are you sure in your own family, marriages take place based on pure merit as mentioned by Great Rishi Dayanand and not by foolish caste based matching?
      I am not defending at all usage of the word Hindu but only reminding you of priorities. Hope you take in positive sense

      • Quite frankly , i did marriage based on merits alone . if you want to become proactive society you should not post like crabs which pull each others legs .
        first priority ? for many ages we are going to whine only about first priorities ?
        i think we need to change the strategy now . this people think themselves as supreme coz noone shakes their chairs yet. when buddisem came how this people whined and mingled buddha as incarnation ? before that when buddha was telling them about sanatan dharma noone listened to him .
        enough is enough with this adharmik people . stop loving them more than needed

      • Arya Sir,
        OK. Let the word Hindu be changed. We will have some better word – say आर्य / सिन्ध / भारतर्षभ / सनातन धर्मी etc. What I think is that caste system needs to be eliminated totally. Merely marrying based on merit and not following caste is OK but just 1 aspect. What if we marry without caste consideration but follow caste system otherwise ? The pro – active approach needs to be taken. I appreciate your spirit. I guess that main culprit is mind. मनो ही हेतुनां सर्वेषां इन्द्रियाणां प्रवर्तते। शुभाशुभवस्थासु तच्छ मे सुव्यवस्थितं । Mind needs to be transformed. Strategy needs to be changed – Agree ! but changing name? How will that help? No one is saying to support any hypocrite. Find him and execute at once. I support your spirit to put the world out of slavery. But merely changing the name won’t help. We need to change thinking and develop right attitude.

    • Who is a hindu?
      “Aa sindho: sinduparyantham yasya bhaaratha bhoomikaa maathru bhoo: pithru bhoo (punya) schaiva sa vai Hindu iti smruthaa” – Whomsoever, is considering the land between the sapta sindu ( Indus valley river) up to Indian ocean as the motherland/ fatherland and holy land, is known as Hindu.
      Then what it a problem to call as a Hindu.

  10. is web side per main hindu dhram se adhik Zakir naik k baare me likha hua dekh raha hu, Ye zakir hai kaun ? Bandey me kuch to baat hai jo uski ek hindu portal per itsni baatein ho rahi hai. Kya mujhe zakir naik ki offocial web side ka adress mil sakta hai ?

    • @Anil:
      Bandey me kuch to baat hai jo uski ek hindu portal per itsni baatein ho rahi hai. Kya mujhe zakir naik ki offocial web side ka adress mil sakta hai ?
      By that logic US has spent multi-billions hunting down OBL. Would you have liked to know and propagate what OBL represented?
      ZN or no ZN, message is the same. 😉

      • us n hinduism ki kuch fake kitabon ki study kar k au un m se matlab ki meanings nikal kar hidu aur dusron ko bhatka raha hai

    • Namaste Anil
      aap IRF.net pe jayein .Wahaan aapke jaise logon ka besabri se intezaar ho rahaa hai .
      ye site mature human beings ke liye hai.aap yahaan galti se aa bhatke hain
      dhanyawaad

  11. zakir nayak islam k bahut bade vakil hai , yad rakhiye , vaakil apni bat ke samarthan me jhuth bhi bolta hai ,vahi kary zakir nayak kar rahe hai !

  12. hahaha kya khub kaha ha .. pitth pichhe kisi ko bhi adami gali de sakta hai.. mgr jab samne dene ki bari aati hai to …. aap khud sajhdaar ho..

  13. raj bhayya … akal se kaam lo.. bina soche samjhe kisi k baare me gaat baat nahi bolna chahiye .. shayad aap k maa baap ne bhi yahi sikhaya hoga..

    • mujhe pata nahi hai ki aap “jannat” se bol rahe hai, ya jannat apka naam ho sakta hai ! ham koi arop zakir ji par nahi laga rahe hai hamne:”e-mail” ke madhyam se kuch prashn kuran ke sambandh me puche the jiska javab aaj tak nahi diya !unke karyalay me bhi unke shagirdo se bhi ham kuch batchit kar chuke hai ,[jo t.v. me ate rahate hai ] yahan par bhi santosh janak javab nahi mil saka , ham svayam zaakir ji se sarvjanik roop se bhi kuch prashn kar chuke hai ,vahan par bhi unhone sahi samadhan nahi kiya ! baki vah kuran ke vishay me kafi bat karte hi hai isme kya shak hai ? ab aap chahe to zakir ke vishay me sahi bat samajh sakte hai ! sath me ham aapse bhi kuch prashn rakh sakte hai uska javab aap zakir ji ya any kisi muslim vidvan se dilva dijiye ! kya ap ska sahas karenge ? javab ki asha me …?

  15. mere samjh se duniya me quran k bare me aisa koi sawal nahi jiska jawab na ho. aap sawal kar sakte hai .. aap ko santosjanak uttar milega…

    • jannat ji namaskar!!
      as you said ,”aap sawal kar sakte hai .. aap ko santosjanak uttar milega”…
      toh mere is sawal ka santoshjanak uttar dene ki kripa karein!!
      “as according to quran this is first creation.. means allah made earth and human beings… say 500 million years ago (let us say this be value just for sake of argument)” then what was allah doing before that time??
      sitting idle??

      • Krishna Arya jee,
        Respected Sir,
        I have a doubt. When you make some blog entries. (example: posts on blogspot.com etc.) – how you make it appear after your comments on this website? I mean which setting needs to be changed?
        Thanks

      • in the website field fill name of your website and then choose the option available after dalog box …
        “Select to choose latest post from your site
        ”
        it will be shown then..

  17. kya aap ka sawal yehai ki.. jab insaan aor dharti nahi tha ( yani pura brahmand nahi tha us waqt allah kya kar raha tha) kya ye hi hai?

  18. is sawal ka jawab siwa allah k aur koi nahi janta.. aur is sawal ka jawab janne se koi labh nahi hai.. kuchh baat aisi hai jo hidden hai. koi bhi dharm me un sawalo ka jawab nahi diya geya.. agar aap ke dharm me is sawal ka jawab hai to batane ki kirpa kare.. thabks

    • @jannat
      Aapne kaha tha ki aisa koi sawal nahi hai jiska jawab kuran me na ho aur ab aap kah rahe hai ki is brahamand (Duniya) ko banane se pahale Allah kaya kar raha tha iska answer kuran me nahi hai.
      Lekin me aapko batata hu
      Allah is Duniya ko banane se pahale nikamo(idly) ki tarah apni kurshi par khali baitha hua tha. Aap sahamat hai?Yes/No &Why.

    • ” aisa koi sawal nahi jiska jawab na ho.”
      first you said likr this and now you are taking a u-turn !!
      if quran cannot answer you why do you believe on such book!!
      “koi bhi dharm me un sawalo ka jawab nahi diya geya”
      ye aapi baat jhooti hai!!
      vedic philosophy gives a clean clear answer!! to it!

  20. The following books contain information about Christianity and reincarnation:
    Reincarnation: The Missing Link in Christianity by Elizabeth Clare Prophet – published by Summit University Press, March 1997
    Reincarnation : A New Horizon in Science, Religion, and Society by Sylvia Cranston, Carey Williams – Published by Theosophical Univ. Press, December 1993
    Reincarnation in Christianity by Geddes MacGregor – published by Theosophical Publishing House, April 1989

  21. bhayya ji shayad aap ko pata nahi ki is sansar ki rachna ek power ne ki hai.. aap bhi usi power ko mante ho aor ham bhi usi power ko mante hai.. kirpa galat shabd ka paryog na kare..
    yadi aap ishwar me ashtha rakhte hai to ye bata dijiye ki ishwar kaha se aya….?
    kuchh baat aise hai jinka jawab insaano k liye labhdayak nahi hota is liye usko hidden hi rahne dya gya hai…

  22. kabhi kahi bina soche samjhe.. aggyanta ke karan wash insaan apane maa baap ko bhi gaali de deta hai.. aur aap wahi kary kar rahe hai..
    AUR KOI PARASHN ? ? ?

    • @jannat
      Tumhari Kitab ki aunsar ye pahali aur aakhri duniya hai aur Allah issse pahle khali baitha huya tha. allah ko tum Gali de rahe ho ham nahi. Ham to kahate hai ki Allah kabhi khali baitha hi nahi tha issse pahale bhi duniya thi. Vedo ke anusar Allah bar – bar Duniya banata hai, palan karata hai aur ant me vinas kar deta hai. allah kabhi bhi khali nahi baithata hai. Vedo ke anusar Allah nirakar hai parantu tum kahate ho uske do hath hai aur usne aadam aur Hava ko dono hatho se banaya hai. Tum Murkh ho jo kahte ho Allah iss duniya ko banane se pahale khali baitha tha. Vedo me Aaako har sawal ka jawab milega.

      • Truth Seeker Sir,
        नमस्कार आचार्य! आपने “शोले” चलचित्र देखा है? अमिताभ बच्चन धर्मेन्द्र के बारे में बताता है – वह बहुत अच्छा है बस दारु पीना छोड दे। दिलदार है बस जुआँ खेलना छोड दे। … मुझे लगता है कुरान ने अल्लाह के प्रति यही किया है। प्रत्यक्ष रुप में तो अल्लाह को दयावान, शक्तिसम्पन्न, सर्वज्ञ बताया परंतु …
        दुनिया के पहले अल्लाह निकम्मा बैठा था । दुनिया समाप्त होने के बाद पुन: निकम्मा हो जाएगा । अभी भी निकम्मा ही है – उसका कार्य तभी प्रारम्भ होता है जब निर्णायक दिवस (अर्थात the day of judgement) आएगा । बस बीच बीच में कुछ करने को मिल जाता है तो कर देता है वरना है तो निकम्मा ही। मुहम्मद को युद्ध द्वारा धन मिलता था। इसी कारण वह युद्धो को प्रोत्साहित करता था। अल्लाह कहता है कि युद्ध में लूटे धन का पंचम भाग उसके नाम रखना। वह निकम्मा ही नही बल्कि लालची भी है। उस अल्लाह ने उन्हे जन्नत बख्शी है जिन्हे उसमें विश्वास है अर्थात जो मुसलमान है। अल्लाह दम्भी भी है जो अपनी स्तुती सुनने के पीछे भूखा है। इस्लाम का आधार ईसा मसीह के नियम है अर्थात The Holy Bible. उसमें LORD GOD ने कुछ 10 commandments कहे थे – जिनका पालन न करने वाले को नरक में डाल देगा । तो कुरान ने उसी आधार पर अल्लाह को सनकी और मूर्ख तानाशाह भी बना दिया। अंतत: शैतान के उत्पत्तिकर्ता भी अल्लाह ही है और अल्लाह ही सबका भाग्य पूर्वनिर्धारित करके स्वतंत्रता का अधिकार छीनता है। यह हमारा प्रथम जन्म है और इसमें कोई विक्लांग पैदा हुआ और कोई स्वस्थ, कोई अमीर तो कोई गरीब, कोई बुद्धिमान तो कोई मूर्ख, कोई मनुष्य तो कोई पशु / पक्षी / कीट। अल्लाह पक्षपाती भी है। उसकी रचनाओ में त्रुतिया अवश्य है। तथाकथित काफिर तथा शैतान इसके साक्षात उदाहरण है। वह कौनसी भूल है जो कुरान के अनुसार अल्लाह नही करता ?

    • ok….!!! let that thing answer be hidden if you wish so!! :-p
      “kuchh baat aise hai jinka jawab insaano k liye labhdayak nahi hota is liye usko hidden hi rahne dya gya hai…”
      answer this!
      we all believe allah makes the soul and gives it birth on earth.
      now why do some people who are born on earth have a very beautiful and healthy body at birth… while others are disabled from hands legs etc. since birth ??
      why this partiality on what basis is this done??

  24. aap ke anusar agar ishwar nirankaar hai to fir aap log uska akar yani murti ki pooja kyu karte ho?
    aap ke kitane ishwar hai?
    kirpya mujhe sahi uttar de ke meri jigyasha ko dur kare.. dhanyvaad 🙂

    • 😀
      it feels you have just visited satyagni! eh? maybe … you not yet went to agniveer.com even ! eh?
      no probs!
      “aap ke anusar agar ishwar nirankaar hai ”
      जी हाँ इश्वर निराकार है |
      “toh fir aap log uska akar yani murti ki pooja kyu karte ho?”
      वेदों में मूर्ति पूजन का स्पष्ट निषेध है |
      वेद कहते है “जो परमात्मा को छोड़कर जड़ प्रकृति को पूजता है , वो घोर अंधकार में गिरता है ”
      वेद कहते है “उस परमात्मा की कभी कोई तस्वीर / प्रतिमा नहीं हो सकती ”
      “न तस्य प्रतिमा अस्ति ”
      yes i accept many people do so , but they are doing wrong., a vedic dharmi never does so … in a similar manner as many muslims worship graves of dead.. though which is shirk as according to quran .
      “aap ke kitane ishwar hai?”
      इश्वर हमारा तुम्हारा तो होता नहीं , इश्वर तो केवल एक है |
      No other literature describes the existence of Only One God as beautifully as Veda does. Just see here.
      Na dvitityo Na triyaschthurtho naapyuchyate|
      N a panchamo Na shshtah sapthmo naapyuchyate|
      Nashtamo Na navamo dashamo naapyuchyate|
      Yagna yetham devamekavritham veda||
      Sa sarvassai vi pashyathi yachha praanathi yachhana|
      Tamidam nigatam sah sa yesha yeka yekavrideka yeva|
      Ya yetham devamekavritham veda||
      Atharva 13.4[2]19-20
      There is no second God, nor a third, nor is even a fourth spoken of
      There is no fifth God or a sixth nor is even a seventh mentioned.
      There is no eighth God, nor a ninth. Nothing is spoken about a tenth even This unique power is in itself. That Lord is only one, the only omnipresent. It is one and the only one.
      you have not yet answered my second question also but started asking me question instead!…. and you said “” aisa koi sawal nahi jiska jawab na ho.” i…

  25. bhai maine bahut se blog padhe hai .. maine dekha hai ki sawal karne wala sawal karta chala jata hai aor jawab dene wala jawab deta chala jata hai.. iska end nahi hota hai… is liye maine ab sawal ka silsila aap se shuru kar diya hai.. aap bas jawab dete jaye.. bcz i know islm is a true religion..
    hams sab ek hai hai.. hamara allah ishwar ek hai..
    aor hamr dharm bhi ek hai..
    lekin aap ne ab tak nahi bataya ki ved kaha se aor kon le kar aya? please ??

    • hahaha!!! ye sun ke acha laga ki “ham sab ek hai hai.. hamara allah ishwar ek hai.”
      lekin atpta lagta hai jab aap phit kehte hain ” islm is a true religion” which says all other religons are false!
      meine swal isiliye puche, ki aap ne kha pucho…? anytha mein nahi puchta .. ab aapne kha hai ruko .. toh mein nahi puchuga. jab tak aap nahi kehte!
      “aap ne ab tak nahi bataya ki ved kaha se aor kon le kar aya? ”
      आपने पिछली दो पोस्ट में प्रशन पूछे सो मैंने एक के उत्तर दे दिए और एक के आपके दोबारा पूछने तक रुक गया . आशा है आप मेरे उस उत्तर से संतुष्ट हैं .
      अब रही बात वेद कहाँ से आये ?
      वेद परमात्मा ने दिए है , सृष्टि प्रारंभ में , मनुष्यों को | और हर बार सृष्टि प्रारंभ में देता है | वेद एक प्रकार से मनुष्यों के लिए दिशा निर्देश हैं की मनुष्यों को अपनी मानव देह को और इस सृष्टि को कैसे वर्तना/ इस्तेमाल चाहिए | क्या खाएं , क्या देखें, कहाँ जायें , क्या सोचें ,क्या करें ,क्या न करें , इत्यादि |
      देखिये मैंने स्पष्ट किया की वेद परमात्मा ने दिए है , परमात्मा हर स्थान पर विद्यमान है, और हमारे भीतर भी है , इसलिए उसे हमसे बात करने के लिए अथवा अपनी वाणी हमे सुनाने के लिए किसी डाकिये/सुचिये की /फ़रिश्ते की आवश्यकता नहीं है| परमात्मा को केवल साफ़ हृदयों की जरुरत है .. इसलिए आदि सृष्टि में चार ऋषियों को अग्नि, अंगीरा …आदि को प्रत्येक को एक-एक वेद का प्रकाश हुआ | अर्थात उनके ह्रदय में स्वयं परमात्मा ने उन्हें वेद का बोध करवाया | यह चार ऋषि इस से पूर्व की सृष्टि के सबसे शुद्ध आत्माओ वाले व्यक्ति थे |
      इस प्रकार से वेद संसार में आये और हर बार आतें हैं |

    • @jannat
      Ved kisi aadmi ne nahi likhe aur na hi wo unhe leker aaya. Har bar jab sristi(Duniya) arambh hoti hai to Ved Shrest manusyo ke harday(heart) me ishwar utpan karta hai. Ved ka arth hai Gyan (Knowledge). Ham sabhi Ishwar/allah ki praja hai aur Ishawar hamara Raja hai. Aesa koi bhi samay nahi tha jab Ishawar aur uski praja Nahi the. Ishwar aur aatma dono kabhi utpan nahi hote aur dono anadi hai. Ishwar kabhi bhi khali nahi baithata. Wo to hamesha kriyashil hai. Ishar Sristi ke armbh me bahut se manushyo ko sharirs pardan karta hai unke purv janmo ke anusar aur unhe vedo ka gyan bhi deta hai.
      Kripya ye article bhi padhiye.
      http://letusthinkagain.blogspot.com/2011/08/blog-post_12.html

  26. :d majedar lekh hai padhne me bahut achha lagta hai magar ye sach nahi hai.. iska aap ke pas koi proof hai to bata dijiye.. mai aap ka bada abhari rahunga.. waise ek baat aor aap ka dharam kaon sa hai? aor aap ki jankari k liye bata du ki islam ya sanatan dharm ya aor koi dharm sab ek hi ishwar ki rachna hai.. sirf bhasha ka antar hai ki aap sanatan dharmi hai aor ham islam se jude hai.. dharm sada se ek hi raha hai aor sada rahega..sanatan dharm ka matlab sada se chala aya dharm aor islam jisko din e qayyam kahate hai iska bhi matlab ek hai.. jaise arabi me abdullah aor sanskrit me ramdas dono ek hai.. cat mean billi aor dog mean kutta.. both is same.. ab koi proof se samjha dijiye ki ved sabke sine me ishvar ki taraf se aya hai agar aya to kya aap ke dil me ya dimag me ved hai?? please bata dijiye :d

    • हाहा!! आश्चर्य मियाँ जन्नत , आप खुद तो चाँद को दो टुकडो में तोड़ देते हैं , गधो को हवा में उड़ा देते हैं , बिना बाप के औलाद पैदा करवा देते है , लाठी का सांप बना देते है , मनुष्यों को बन्दर बना देते है … और कोई प्रूफ नहीं देते ….. और मैंने एक आसन सी और साधारण से बात कही ..
      की खुदा यदि सभी के भीतर है तो वो हमसे खुद बात करेगा.. उसे फरिश्तो की क्या जरुरत ? सुचिये तो उसे चाहिए जो खुद बात कहने में असमर्थ हो ! आप खुदा को किस काम में असमर्थ मानते हो ? जो खुदा औरो की मदद ले वो कैसा खुदा ? सूचिया तो तब चाहिए की खुदा कहीं दूर हो और मुहम्मद कहीं दूर !!
      दिल में बता खुदा क्या प्राणियों को ज्ञान नहीं दे सकता ?
      उसके बाद ….
      जब मेरे ह्रदय में मेरी आत्मा में परमात्मा है , तो इस बात को समझने में आपको क्या दिक्कत है की हाँ वेद भी मेरे अन्दर पहले से है | जरूरत है केवल उसे पहचानने की ! कहते है न “की उस खुदा को जान लेने के बाद और कुछ जानना बाकि नहीं रहता ”
      हमे सिर्फ समाधी की उस अवस्था तक पहुंचना है जब परमात्मा की आवाज़ बहुत साफ़ सुने देने लगे … .. लेकिन जन्मो लगते है वहां पहुंचने में !
      में चाहता हु इस बात पे फिर ध्यान दिया जाये की हमारी बात चीत शुरू कैसे हुई!
      जन्नत :””mere samjh se duniya me quran k bare me aisa koi sawal nahi jiska jawab na ho. aap sawal kar sakte hai .. aap ko santosjanak uttar milega…””
      फिर मैंने पहला प्रशन किया :: http://agniveer (dot) com/416/hindu/#comment-29376
      आपने कहा इसका जवाब hidden है |
      फिर मैंने दूसरा प्रशन किया http://agniveer (dot) com/416/hindu/#comment-29420
      you never answered
      आपने उलटे मुझसे प्रशन शुरू किये है ,
      पर कोई बात नहीं में उत्तर दे रहा हु ….. आगे प्रशन करते रहे!

    • हाहा!! आश्चर्य मियाँ जन्नत , आप खुद तो चाँद को दो टुकडो में तोड़ देते हैं , गधो को हवा में उड़ा देते हैं , बिना बाप के औलाद पैदा करवा देते है , लाठी का सांप बना देते है , मनुष्यों को बन्दर बना देते है … और कोई प्रूफ नहीं देते ….. और मैंने एक आसन सी और साधारण से बात कही ..
      की खुदा यदि सभी के भीतर है तो वो हमसे खुद बात करेगा.. उसे फरिश्तो की क्या जरुरत ? सुचिये तो उसे चाहिए जो खुद बात कहने में असमर्थ हो ! आप खुदा को किस काम में असमर्थ मानते हो ? जो खुदा औरो की मदद ले वो कैसा खुदा ? सूचिया तो तब चाहिए की खुदा कहीं दूर हो और मुहम्मद कहीं दूर !!
      दिल में बता खुदा क्या प्राणियों को ज्ञान नहीं दे सकता ?
      उसके बाद ….
      जब मेरे ह्रदय में मेरी आत्मा में परमात्मा है , तो इस बात को समझने में आपको क्या दिक्कत है की हाँ वेद भी मेरे अन्दर पहले से है | जरूरत है केवल उसे पहचानने की ! कहते है न “की उस खुदा को जान लेने के बाद और कुछ जानना बाकि नहीं रहता ”
      हमे सिर्फ समाधी की उस अवस्था तक पहुंचना है जब परमात्मा की आवाज़ बहुत साफ़ सुने देने लगे … .. लेकिन जन्मो लगते है वहां पहुंचने में !
      में चाहता हु इस बात पे फिर ध्यान दिया जाये की हमारी बात चीत शुरू कैसे हुई!
      जन्नत :””mere samjh se duniya me quran k bare me aisa koi sawal nahi jiska jawab na ho. aap sawal kar sakte hai .. aap ko santosjanak uttar milega…””
      फिर मैंने पहला प्रशन किया :: agniveer(dot)com/416/hindu/#comment-29376
      आपने कहा इसका जवाब hidden है |
      फिर मैंने दूसरा प्रशन किया agniveer(dot)com/416/hindu/#comment-29420
      you never answered
      आपने उलटे मुझसे प्रशन शुरू किये है ,
      पर कोई बात नहीं में उत्तर दे रहा हु ….. आगे प्रशन करते रहे!

  27. aor agar nahi bata sakte to ma aap ko bata dunga proof k sath ki islam dharm kya hai kaise aya aor quran kya hai kaise aya .. with proof.. :d
    bina proof ke aap ki koi baat nahi sunega..
    ek baat aor ye vishnu brahma aor shiv kaon hai? ram aor ikrishn kya ishvar hai? 🙂

    • “” आप खुद तो चाँद को दो टुकडो में तोड़ देते हैं , गधो को हवा में उड़ा देते हैं , बिना बाप के औलाद पैदा करवा देते है , लाठी का सांप बना देते है , मनुष्यों को बन्दर बना देते है “”
      chaliye laiy proof hum bhi dekhein science of quran!! 😀

    • nahi ram aur krishna ishvar nahi hai…. balki mahan vyakti hue hain!
      shiv, brahma ,vishnu are names of same go.. based on attributes..
      shiv means the giver of all things, vishnu(vishwa+ anu)– present in every atom of whole world, brahma-(the one with complete perfect knowledge)…
      so all three are among uncountable names of god!! anything else??
      😀
      I WOULD REPEAT YOU NEVER ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS , AND EVEN ASKED ME NOT TO ASK QUESTIONS ,THOUGH I ANSWERED ALL QUESTIONS OF YOURS!! 😀

  28. mere bhai aziz dost gair muslim ji kya aap apne dharm se santusht hai? ye sab se badi chiz hai ya aap bhi kashmkash me fas kar nastikta ka jivan yapan kar rahe hai? kabhi aap ke andar ye jigyasha aya ki sanatn dharm hi abhi tak sahi aor real roop me sabhi manushyo ka marg darshan karne me sakchham hai? agar hamko khana khana hai ya koi bissunes karna hai ya sona hai ya shaadi karna ha to kis tarah karenge? ha ye baat kha se sikhenge? agar aap nahi bat sakte to mai aap ko bata deta hoo… atma aor brahmand ki sab chiz allah ne banaya hai aor samy samay par apane manushyo ke marg darshan ke liye avtar ( nabi ) bhejta raha hai ( jab ja prithvi pe pap badhta hai to avtar ate hai ) ap ved ko gar se padhiye aor fir quran ko bhi padhiye bahut si baat ap ko ek jasi milegi.. ab ham sanatan ya kisi or dharm ko nahi maan sakte hai kyu ki samay ke sath usme milavat ho chuka hai.. ab ha ko us dharm ko hi manna hai jo aaj sahi halat me hai aor wo dharm hai islam.. with proof no chenging .. 🙂

    • acha btaiye what is the proof of ?
      these miracles?
      चाँद को दो टुकडो में तोड़ देना , गधो को हवा में उड़ा देना , बिना बाप के औलाद पैदा करवा देना , लाठी का सांप बना देना , मनुष्यों को बन्दर बना देना ??
      let us see the proofs now!! 😀

      • did the donkey had to run at very fast for take off??????????what was the fuel for the donkey?????????.imagine how the donkey must have landed on the run way??you know what was the safety belt and safety issues concerned?? was the donkey in auto pilot mode or was he driving it.. and how the donkey managed the oxygen mask
        I think it was a half moon day so the arabs(brainless creatures with 100 wifes) thaught that the moon broke into two
        man islam is in its original form unchanged. veryy scientific i guess

    • param adarniy shri jannat ji , apko kisne batlaya ki ki ved me milavat ho chuki hai ? koi sabut dijiye ! kaun kaun se mantr ved me aur jode gaye ? uski sankhya v naam aur sthan batlaiye ! ab quran ki bat suniya kitni uthapatak quran me hui hai ! jinhe aap log sankhya jodne ke liye muslim mante hai ya jinko makka v madeena jane se rok nahi pate vah muslim kahate hai ki qurn me kareeb 18000 ayte thi , 116 surat thi ! chaliye unki bate jane dijiye ab aap svayam “nagi ankho” se quran ko dekhiye kya aaj ki quran “betarteeb” nahi hai ? kahi makki ayte kahi madeeni ayte ? kya jaisa quran muhammad ji paraya vaisa hi aj pesh kiya ja raha hai ? yah to khaleefa usman ji ke jamane me banaya hua pesh kiya ja raha hai ! kya quran me 112 bismillah aur nahi jode gaye ? kya surat fatha pahali surat hai ya 96 me batai gai “al alaq” yah fer badli kyo hui usko sabhi muslimo ne kyo svikar kiya kya usman ji muhammad ji v allah ji se bhi bade ho gaye? ya allah ji ne usman ji ko aisa hi quran pesh karne ka “sandesh “diya tha ? dekhiye qurqn 38/75 jisme allah ji svaym kahate hai ki hamne “dono hatho” se adam ji ko banaya ! jis allah ji ke “dono hath ” simit ho usko koi sarvshaktiman kaha ja sakta hai ? jo allah ji 8 farishte uthaye huye us singhasan par virajman ho yah quran me anek jagah aya hai kya usko koi allah kaha ja sakta hai ? jo quran me allah svyam apni ayte “matr 23 sal” me hi kya balki kuch din me hi nirast karta rahata ho usko 1400 sal bad uski bate sachhi ho iski kya garanti hai ? batlaiye quran ki kaun si ek ayat hai jisme khatna ho ? kalma ho ? teen talak ek bar[ek svans ] me dene ka adesh ho? fir kyo muslim isko mante hai ? agar khuda ji ne atma ko banaya hai to us khuda ki taseer atma me kyo nahi hai ? atma to jhuth bhi bolti hai kamjor bhi hoti hai kya khuda ji bhi jhuth bolte v kamjor hai ya sarvshaktiman ? kya kaha jayega batlaiye ? dharm kise kahate hai ? uske kya lakshan hai ? kis vyakti ko dharmik ya adharmik kaha jayega ? iska paimana kya hai ? kya aap batlayenge ? kya jo muhammad ji ko mane…

  30. The Glorious Qur’an
    Sunnis Shi’ites
    There is unanimous agreement among them regarding its authenticity, and its text being safeguarded from any additions or deletions. The Qur’an is to be understood in consonance with the rules and bases of the Arabic language. They believe in every single letter of it, it being the word of Allah the Exalted. The Qur’an is neither temporal nor newly created, but is eternal. Falsehood does not approach it from before it or behind it. It is the primary source of all the Muslims’ tenets of faith, their rites and rules of conduct.
    To some of them, the Qur’an’s authenticity is doubtful, and if it appears to contradict any of their sectarian beliefs or doctrines, then they give the Qur’anic text strange, far-fetched interpretations that agree with their sectarian views. For that reason they are called Al-Mutawwilah (those who give their own interpretations to the revealed texts). They love to draw attention to the discord that occurred at the time when the Qur’an was first compiled. The views and opinions of their Imams are the primary source of their jurisprudence.
    Hadeeths (The Prophetic Traditions)
    Sunnis Shi’ites
    For the Sunnis, it is the second source of revealed law, complementary to the Noble Quran It is not permissible to contradict or reject the rulings and directives contained in those Hadeeths (ahaadeeth) which are reliably attributed to the Prophet (may Allah’s blessings and peace be upon him). The methodology applied in determining the authenticity of these traditions utilizes a set of stringent rules agreed upon by the scholars who specialize in this field, and involves detailed analysis of the chain of transmitters of any given tradition. No distinction is made between male and female narrators; judgment is made solely on the basis of individual trustworthiness and technical ability in relating traditions, and every narrator’s history is recorded. No tradition is accepted from a known liar, or from one whose morals or scholarly ability were not…

  31. Shi’ites
    For the Sunnis, it is the second source of revealed law, complementary to the Noble Quran It is not permissible to contradict or reject the rulings and directives contained in those Hadeeths (ahaadeeth) which are reliably attributed to the Prophet (may Allah’s blessings and peace be upon him). The methodology applied in determining the authenticity of these traditions utilizes a set of stringent rules agreed upon by the scholars who specialize in this field, and involves detailed analysis of the chain of transmitters of any given tradition. No distinction is made between male and female narrators; judgment is made solely on the basis of individual trustworthiness and technical ability in relating traditions, and every narrator’s history is recorded. No tradition is accepted from a known liar, or from one whose morals or scholarly ability were not corroborated, or from anyone, merely on the basis of his family connection or lineage. The compilation of the Prophetic Traditions is taken to be a sacred Trust, the fulfillment of which overrides all other considerations.
    The Shi’ites reject all Prophetic Traditions which were not related by members of Ahlul-Bait, or their descendants. The only exception to this rule is their acceptance of a few Hadeeths (ahaadeeth) narrated by those who sided with ‘Ali (may Allah be pleased with him) in his political wars. They do not attend to the authenticity and soundness of the chain of narrators, nor do they approach the study of the Prophetic Traditions with a scientific, critical attitude. Their narrations often appear in a form like that of the following example: “It has been reported regarding Muhammad bin Isma’eel by way of some of our friends through a man who transmitted it from him [‘Ali] that he said…” Their books are filled with hundreds of thousands of traditions whose authenticity cannot be confirmed. They have built their religion specifically upon these spurious texts while outright rejecting over three quarters of the authentic Prophetic…

  32. The Companions Of The Prophet
    Sunnis Shi’ites
    It is unanimously agreed that the noble Companions deserve our utmost respect, and are absolutely trustworthy. As for the discord which occurred among them, it is to be considered as the consequence of the sincere exercise of personal conviction and opinion. The discord was resolved and is a thing of the past. It is not permissible for us to hold, on the basis of past differences among the Companions, grudges and ill will which continue for generations. The Companions are those whom Allah has described in the best of terms; He has praised them upon many occasions. It is not lawful for anyone to make any accusation against them or cast suspicion upon them, and there is no benefit to be derived therefrom.
    They charge that all save a few of the Companions had turned apostate after the death of the Prophet (may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him). On the other hand, they grant the Companion ‘Ali bin Abi Taalib a very special status; some of them consider him vicegerent, and some view him as a prophet, while others take him for a god! Shi’ites pass judgment on Muslims in accordance with their position with regards to ‘Ali. Whoever was elected caliph before ‘Ali is held by them to be a tyrant, an apostate or a sinner. The same judgment is passed on every Muslim ruler who did not step down for any of the descendants of ‘Ali and his wife Fatimah (may Allah be pleased with them). The Shi’ites have thus created an atmosphere of animosity throughout the history of Islam, and the question of partisanship of Ahlul-Bait developed into a school of thought which preached and perpetuated such detrimental teachings down through the generations.

  33. Belief In The Oneness Of Allah
    Sunnis Shi’ites
    Sunnis believe that Allah is the One, the Only, God, the Almighty Subduer. He has no partners or rivals, and He has no equal. There is no intermediary between Him and His worshippers. They believe in His attributes as they were revealed In the Qur’anic verses, and they do not obscure their obvious meanins with far-fetched Interpretations. They do not strike any comparison between the divine attributes and other things, for as Allah says in His Book “There is nothing like unto Him.” They believe that Allah sent the Prophets and commissioned them with conveying to mankind His Message and Guidance. They conveyed Allah’s Message and did not conceal any part of it They believe that knowledge Of the unseen belongs to Allah alone. Intercession is confined to the Hereafter, and none may intercede except by Allah’s permission. All supplication, vows, offerings of sacrifices and requests for needs are to be directed to God alone; they are not to be directed to any other besides Him. Allah alone controls good and evil. There is no one, living or dead in His authority or in His administration of affairs. All beings depend on Him, and need His favor and mercy. The knowledge of Allah is attained through knowledge of divinely revealed law, and this has precedence over the exercise of reason, which might never guide one to the truth, although it may provide reassurance to the believer, and help him to achieve tranquillity.
    The Shi’ites also believe in Allah the Exalted and His Oneness, except that they adulterate this belief with polytheistic rituals and observances. They implore and make supplication to Allah’s slaves and worshippers rather than to Him alone, saying “O Ali! and “O Husain!” and “O Zainab!” Similarly they make vows and sacrifice beasts in the name of others besides Allah. They request the dead to fulfil their needs as is shown by their prayers and poems. They consider their Imams to be infallible, to have knowledge of the unseen, and to partake In…

  34. Seeing Allah
    Sunnis Shi’ites
    Sunnis believe that believers will be blessed with the sight of Allah in the Hereafter, as is mentioned in the Qur’an: “On that Day faces [of the believers] will be resplendent, looking towards their Lord.”
    The Shi’ites believe that to see Allah is not possible in this world nor in the Hereafter.

  35. The Unseen
    Sunnis Shi’ites
    Allah the Exalted has reserved knowledge of the unseen for Himself; however, He has revealed to His Prophets some of the affairs and conditions of the unseen, for particular reasons. The Qur’an says: “And they do not encompass anything of God’s knowledge except what He will to reveal thereof”
    They claim that knowledge of the unseen belongs solely to their Imams, and it is not for the Prophet to inform us about the unseen. Some Shi’ites have gone so far as to claim godhead for those Imams.

  36. Aalur-Rasool (The Family Of The Messenger)
    (May Allah Be Pleased With Them All)
    Sunnis Shi’ites
    Aalur-Rasool, according to the Sunnis, has various meanings. The best single definition of this term is “the followers of the Prophet Muhammad in the faith of Islam.” It is also defined as “the pious and God-fearing people of the Prophet’s ummah (nation of believers).” It is also said that the term refers to the believing relatives of Muhammad, from the tribes of Haashim and ‘Abdul-Muttalib.
    According to the Shi’ites the term Aalur-Rasool refers only to ‘Ali bin Abi Taalib, to some of his sons, and to the descendants ‘of those sons.

  37. he Meaning Of Shari’ah (Islamic Law) And Haqeeqah (The Truth)
    Sunnis Shi’ites
    In the Sunnis’ view, the shariah (the divinely revealed law) is itself the haqeeqah (the essential knowledge, the reality). They hold that Muhammad, the Messenger of Allah, did not conceal from his nation of believers any part of that knowledge, contained in the revealed law. There was no good thing that he did not guide us to, and no evil thing that he did not warn us about. Allah has said ‘On this day I have completed your religion. Therefore, ‘ the sources of the Islamic faith are Allah’s Book and the sunnah (practice) of the Prophet, and there is no need to add anything to that. The relationship of the believer with Allah, and the path to the achievement of 800d works and worship, are clear and direct. The only one to know the actual condition of the believers is Allah, so (i.e do not pass judgment on the praiseworthiness or purity of anyone, lest we overstep our bounds). The views and opinions of anyone may be accepted or rejected, except or those of the infallible Prophet of Allah, upon whom be Allah’s blessings and peace.
    The Shi’ites see the shari’ah as being merely the various rulings and directives set forth by the Prophet; they concern the common and superficial folk only. As for the haqeeqah, no one knows it except the Imams of AhlulBait These Imams acquire the sciences of haqeeqah through inheritance, one generation after another. It remains a secret possession among them. Furthermore, the Shi’ites consider their Imams infallible; their every work and practice is deemed incumbent upon their followers. They believe that one may communicate with God only through intermediaries, and it is for this reason that their religious leaders have such an inflated opinion of themselves, as evidenced by the exaggerated titles they take for themselves, e.g. Baabullah (the door to Allah), Waliyullah (the friend of Allah), Hujjatullah (Allah’s proof), Ayatullah (the sign of Allah), Al-Ma’soom (the infallible one), etc.

  38. Islamic Jurisprudence
    Sunnis Shi’ites
    Ahlus-sunnah adhere strictly to the legal rulings and directives of the Noble Qur’an, as clarified by the sayings and practices of the Messenger We also depend upon the sayings of the Companions and the generation of trustworthy scholars who followed them. They were the nearest to the Prophet’s era and the most sincere in supporting his mission, throughout the tests and trials which had to be endured in the course of establishing Islam. Since this religion has been completed, no one has the right to formulate new legislation or directives; however, in order to properly understand the details of the revealed law, and to apply it according to new situations and circumstances while keeping in mind the general welfare of the people, one must refer to the qualified Muslim scholars who must work solely within the bounds established by Allah’s Book and the sunnah of the Prophet (may Allah’s blessings and peace be upon him).
    They depend only on the exclusive sources which they claim for their Imams: upon their farfetched interpretations of the Quran; and upon their contrary attitude which puts them at odds with the majority of the Muslim peoples. The Shi’ites consider their Imams to be infallible, and to have the right to create new rulings and directives .in contradiction to the revealed law. For example, they have altered:
    (a) The call to prayer and the prescribed times and postures of prayers.
    (b) The rites of Hajj (pilgrimage) and visitation to the sacred places.
    (c) The specified times for beginning and breaking the fast.
    (d) The rulings with regards to zakaah (alms-tax) and its distribution.
    (e) The inheritance laws. The Shi’ites are very particular to take positions in opposition to Ahlus-Sunnah, thus widening the gap between Sunnis and Shi’ites.

  39. Al-Walaa’ (Obedience And Devotion)
    Sunnis Shi’ites
    Al-walaa ‘ means “total adherence, obedience and devotion.” The Sunnis believe that it is due only to the Messenger of Allah, for Allah says in His Book “Whosoever obeys the Messenger, he has verily obeyed Allah.” No other person deserves our strict adherence or our obedience and devotion. Our responsibilities to others are defined by known legal principles, and there is no obedience due to any human being if that entails disobedience to the Creator.
    They view al-walaa’ as being one of the pillars of iman. They define it as the firm belief in the Twelve Imams including the “hidden” Imam). They consider one who does not have strict devotion to Aalul-Bait as one who has no faith. They will not pray behind such a person, nor will they give him zakaah although he be deserving of it. Such a person would be treated as a kaafr by them.

  40. Taqiyyah (Calculated Deception)
    Sunnis Shi’ites
    It is defined as presenting an outer appearance that belies what one conceals inside, to protect oneself from harm. It is considered impermissible for a Muslim to deceive other Muslims, because of the Prophet’s saying: Whoever deceives is not of us.” Resorting to taqiyyah is permitted only in one situation: during war against the disbelievers who are the enemies of Islam. That is part of the etiquette of war. It is incumbent on the Muslim to be truthful and courageous in upholding the truth, and to be neither ostentatious, nor deceiving, nor treacherous. He should give sincere counsel, enjoin what is good and forbid what is evil.
    In spite of the differences among the various Shi’ite sects, they all agree that taqiyyah is a prescribed duty and a pillar of their faith. Their schools of thought could not stand without it. They learn its principles and methods and they practice it, especially if they are in dire circumstances. They exaggeratedly praise and flatter those whom they consider disbelievers, whom they consider deserving of slaughter and destruction. The verdict of kufr is passed on anyone who is not of their sectarian school, and for them “the end justifies the means.” Their ethics allow every manner of lying, cunning and deception.

  41. Governing The Islamic State
    Sunnis Shi’ites
    The state is ruled by a Caliph (Khalifa) elected to his position of leadership from among the Muslim people. To be leader, a man must be sane, rightly guided and knowledgeable. He should be known for his piety and trustworthiness, and he should be capable of bearing such a responsibility. The caliph is nominated to his position Of leadership by those Muslims endowed with knowledge and experience. If he does not hold firm to his duty, and deviates from the directives of the Qur’an, then they may remove him from his position and strip him of all authority. Otherwise, he deserves the obedience and cooperation of every Muslim. The role of caliphate is, to the Sunnis, a great burden and responsibility, not a mere honor or opportunity for exploitations.
    Generally speaking, the right to govern according to Shi’ites, is hereditary, and restricted to ‘Ali, and his descendants by Fatimah (the daughter of the Prophet). There is, however, some slight difference among them on the point of the hereditary right as to whom it belongs to. Due to this view of theirs, the Shi’ites are never loyal to any ruler unless he is one of the descendants of ‘Ali bin Abi Taalib. When the practice of hereditary leadership vested in the descendants of ‘Ali and Fatimah could no longer be maintained, because the line had come to an end, the Shi’ites invented the doctrine of Ar-Raj’ah, according to which the last Imam was not dead, but “hidden”. He is expected to arise and return at the end of time, when he will slaughter all of his political opponents, and those of his ancestors, and will restore to the Shi’ites their rights which were “plundered” by the other sects over the centuries.

  42. NOWWWWWWWWW
    THE MOST IMPORTANT DIFFERENCES ARE
    1 REGARDING QURAN(WHO SAYS ITS NOT CHANGED)
    2 REGARDING ONENESS OF ALLAH IS ALSO MAJOR DIFFERENCE
    THE SHIYAS ALSO ASK ALI AND OTHER COMPANIONS OF PROPHET FOR HELP(AND DONT LIE THAT ALI HERE IS AL ALIYY)
    SO WOULD THEY ACCOMPANY US IN HELL
    AND DONT BOMB THE TAQIYA NUCLEAR BOMB THAT ALL THESE WORKS ARE MY OWN SCRUPLOUS IMAGINATION
    IT IS THESE DIFFERNCES BECAUSE OF WHICH SHIA ARE TARGETED IN PAKISTAN

  43. hummmmm kala achchhar bhais barabar… itani bhayanka english mujhe nahi aati bhai.. mai ek hindustani hoo aor hindi hi samjhta hu.. kripya hindi me samjhaa do bhai :d

  44. saare jaha se achchha hindustan hamra..
    ham bulbule hai iski ye gul sita hamara..
    ha haha …
    azadi ka din mubarak ho aap sab ko.. 🙂

  45. aap ne bataya nahi ki ye vishnu brahma aor shiva kaon hai kya raam aor krishn ishwar hai?
    kya proof hai ki ved ishvar ne insaan k dil me utar diya ? aga utar deta hai to kya aap ke dil aor dimag me ved hai? mere dil aor dimag me to nahi hai bhai :d ha ha ha

  46. bhai waha to sirf english hi english hai aor mujhe english nahi aati aa usko hindi me translet kar ke samjha dijiye.. etna mehant to aap ko apane dharm k liye karna parega .. sachchaai mujhe bhi janne ka haq hai .. kyu sahi kaha na mai ?? 🙂

  47. haan jannat ji , apka naam jannat hai ya aap” jannat” se bol rahe hai kripya isko spasht kijiye ! jaise ek mahila kisi ke liye mata kisi ke liye beti kisi ke liye patni adi hoti hai ! vaise hi jab sansar banaya tab ishvar brahmma kahalata hai , jab sansar sthir hota haichalayman rahata hai tab vahi ishvar vishnu kahalata hai , jab sansar vinah ki or jata hai tab vahi ishvar mahesh kahalata hai ! shiv ka arth hai kalyan karna , jo bhi kalyan kari marg par chalta hai tab vah shiv kahalata hai nahi to “shav ” ban jata hai yah kisi vishesh vyakti ki bapauti nahi hai jo apnayega vah ban jayega ! jaise aaj koi khoj hoti hai , jaise rail, motar, phon, mobail ,intarnet , t v adi ham-sab us khoj karta ko bhi nahi jante ! vaise hi ved ka arth hai gyan ! sansar ki utpatti ke samay kuch bahle logon ne apni buddhi ki shuddhi ki vajah se ishvar ka dhyan lagakar , samadhi avstha me baithkar tapasya karke ishvar se gyan “chhina ” ya liya ! us gyan ko “ved” ka bhi nam diya gaya ! kyoki ved karth gyan hota hai ! har manushy svabhavt: svabhavik gyan rakhta hai , vah chahe nyun matra me ho ya jyada matra me ho ! jaise hamare apke dimag me anek naye vichar bhi ate hai, vaise hi vishesh gyan ya koi khoj ka vishay kisi vishesh manushy me kyo nahi aa sakta ? yah bhi is bat ka ek sabut kaha ja sakta hai !

  48. ye jo baat aapne batay hai bara hi majedar hai.. magar ye baat aa ko kaha se pata chala? ved se? puran se? page no. kya hai? jara mai bhi to dekhu?
    kya aap ko vishvas hai ki jo ved rishi muni le kar aye wo ved aaj kal ke ved jaisa ya yahi ved hai?
    iska kya proof hai ki ved me koi milawat nahi huwa. aor aaj bhi ved original hai? please 🙂

    • मियां जन्नत ,
      ये पढ़िए और जानिए की क्यों वेद अब तक अपने उसी रूप में जैसे आरम्भ में थे |
      और ये भी जानिए की कैसी अद्भुत व्यवस्था की है वेदों को बचाने की |
      http://agniveer.com/2697/no-textual-corruption-in-vedas/
      वेद मंत्रो को चाहे कन्याकुमारी में सुनिए .चाहे कश्मीरी पंडितो से …. एक मंत्र के अक्षर में भी अंतर नहीं है .||
      केवल मंत्रो के अर्थ समझने में अंतर हो सकता है , मूल मंत्र अर्थात संस्कृत के मंत्रो में कोई भेद नहीं है |

      • @irfan
        Vedo me mera bhi nam hai “Ved Parkash” Ved mai Agniveer ka bhi nam hai “agni” Vedo mai Vajra ka bhi nam hai, Ved me Raj ka bhi nam hai. Ved spirit brother ka bhi nam hai “aatma”

      • MANNIY IRFAN JI, JAB ISLAM KISI BHAVISHYVANI ME VISHVAS NAHI KARTA TAB VED ME MUHAMMAD JI KA NAM HAI YA NAHI USKA KYA MATLAB RAH JAYEGA ! JAHAN TAK HAMARI JANKARI HAI MUHAMMAD J KA NAM VED ME HARGIJ NAHI HAI !

  49. mai aap ko aaj kal ke ved dikha sakta hoo.. ek ved me kuchh aor likha hai aor dusare ved me kuchh aor .. is se pata chalta hai ki ved me chenging ho chuki hai ab us par bharosha karna aor uske bataye marg pe chalna goya shaitan ke batae marg pe chalne ke barabar hai maar kuchh sach baat aaj bhi usme hai jaise kalki avtar jo ki last avtar hai kalyug me aane wala .. aage aor bataunga pahale mere prashn ka uttar dijiye please :d

    • @jannat
      bhai tum mujhe bande mast lag rahe ho ………………….
      maine upar simple bhasha main yeh bataya hai ki shia aur sunni ke quran main itna antar hai…. shia aur sunni ki manyataon main bhi antar batlaya tha
      apne yeh bataya tha ki quran unchangebale hai to itna antar kyun
      apke khatir agar man le ki hinduism main kuch galti hoti hai yah koi dharam main kuch sahi kaha ho to hum adopt kar sakte hain
      par kya islam reforms ke liye open haiii
      dr zakir naik ke hisab se sare kabar, dargah jane wale hell jayenge(shia muslims included kyunki weh ali aur baki paigambar ke saathiyon ko divine mante hain aur sunni ke quran ko pura aur asli nahi mante. ajmer main lakhon muslims aate hain sub hell jayenge aur woh akela heaven jayega toh kya itna fundamentalist hona aur dusre dharam ki beizzati hazaron logon ke samne karna thik hai aapke hisab se)
      yehi kehna tha ki allah/ishwar ko pahuchne ke kai rastain hain……….. kisi dusre dharam ki burai nahi karna chahiye

  50. thanks mere bhai aap ne achha sawal kiya hai…
    sab se pahle mai aap ko ye bata du ki shiya islam se bahar hai wo musalman nahi hai. unho ne kai manghadat kahani islam k virudh banaya hai .. jaise ki aap logo me bhi ka log hajaro ishvar ko mante hai aor ved k brahma shutra yani ishvar ek hai dosra nahi hai nahi hai jarra barabr bhi nahi hai.. is ka ullandhan karte hai aor apane aap ko hindu kahate hai ( NOTE: hindu koi dharm nahi hai ! aap is baat ko kabhi proof nahi kar sakte hai )
    2- jo log kabro ki pooja karte hai ya majar pe jate hai wo log shirk karte hai yani unka yakeen hai ki ishvar bhi hamari mushkil hal karta hai aor ye kabar wale bhi karte hai is ko shir kahae hai yani allah k alawa allah jaisa kisi aor ko maan lena ( jaise aolad dena kisi ki bigadi banana ye sab ishvar ka kaam hai ) quraan me aise logo ko jahannami kaha gya hai.. sanatan dhar m bhi pahale murti pooja nahi tha magar baad me kabar ko poojte poojte kabar walo ki murti bana k unki pooja karne lage hai..
    rahi aap ki tisari baat toh wo bhi jan lijiye
    3- islam ko na mnne wala kafir hai kafir ka matlab na manne wala jaise ki aap muhammad sahab ko allah ka avtar nahi mante hai aap quran ko allah ki kitab nahi mante hai to aap kafir hai..
    rahi baat ki islam hi kyu sachcha dharm hai toh mai aap ko bata deta hoo…ki islam hi sachcha dham kyu hai

    • अरे वाह ! ये तो बढ़िया बात हुई …. शिया कहते है हमारी कुरान सही , सुन्नी कहते है हमारी कुरान सही|
      और आपने तो शिया वालो को इस्लाम से ही बाहर कर दिया |
      चलिए फिर जरा शिया वालो को भी इस्लाम का ना माने और सूफियो को भी इस्लाम का न मानें … आइये फिर देखें इस्लाम सबसे बड़ा धर्मं है या नहीं ?
      जनसँख्या गिनते समय तो आप शिया भी गिनते है सूफी भी और शाश्त्रर्थ करते समय “शिया इस्लाम से बाहर है ???”

    • han jannat ji shiya islam se kab kharij kiye gaye jara yah bhi to batlaiye ? kisne kharij kiya ?, kab kiya ? kya shiya logon ka makka v madina me umra karna, hajj karna mana hai ? yah sab kab se mana hua ? kya dargaho me jane vale makka v madina me jane se koi rok pata hai ? jab vah bhi kafir hai aur kuran ko nmanne vale bhi kafir hai tab kya ham mkka adi ja sakte hai agar nahi ja sakte to yah kafiro ke sath bhed bhav kyo ? yani muripujne vala nahi jayega lekin kabro me ,dargaho meshish jhukane vala mannate mangne vala makka- madeena jarur jayega ? yah julm kyo? is julm ke khilf apki avaj kyo nahi ? kya aap is jagah napunsak jaisa vyavhar kar rahe hai ?

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