In this article, we shall discuss the concept of eternity of Vedas. Just as Ishwar is eternal, so is His knowledge.

Doubt: Vedas comprise of words, phrases and verses. Just as a sculpture is not formed without someone making it, in same manner Vedas must also have been made by someone. They did not exist before creation and shall not exist after dissolution. Hence Vedas cannot be eternal.

1. Words (Shabda) are of two types – eternal and effect. Words in knowledge of Ishwar are eternal because they represent relation with specific perfect knowledge. However the words created by us are effects of various factors including our existing knowledge, tendencies and mindsets and hence non-eternal.

The knowledge of Ishwar is eternal in lines of eternal powers of Ishwar. Thus Vedas are eternal.

2. Let us understand it in a different manner. By words we imply the relation with specific knowledge. For example, when someone calls or writes your name, that pronunciation or handwriting is not eternal. But the fact that it implies relation with you in unchangeable. If one has to represent you in sound, calling your name would be the best possible way. But pronunciation of name is not you. However you remain unchanged.

Similarly the words printed in Vedas or their pronunciations are not eternal. However the knowledge that they represent is eternal.

3. Alternatively, Vedas represent eternal knowledge. The best representation of Vedas in sound is the mantras we chant and best representation of Vedas in vision is the print of mantras. This is just like best representation of you on a plain paper is your photo.

Because we are ignorant, we are unable to grasp the full meaning of Vedas from what we listen or see. But in Ishwar’s perfection, which is devoid of such ignorance, Vedas represent eternal knowledge.

4. As we progress in our efforts to free ourselves from ignorance, Vedas become clearer and clearer to us. That is why it is fruitless to simply mug up Vedic mantras. What is actually mugged up is non-eternal. Only when those mantras become representation of knowledge they imply, that we actually understand the eternal Vedas.

5. This eternity is what differentiates Vedas from other books like Quran, Bible etc. Because Vedas represent eternal knowledge that can be progressively grasped to utmost capacity of soul only when progressively freed from ignorance, blind belief in book called Vedas or sounds of mantras without understanding them is fruitless. Because when we do so, we are trying to master the non-eternal. Unless and until that relationship with eternal knowledge exists, mugging up Vedas, or worshipping cover of Vedas, or believing that Vedas worship will lead us to Heaven even though we do not understand it, is sheer stupidity.

6. Thus this concept of eternity forms the foundation of principle of tolerance imbibed in Vedas. There is no concept of compulsion or blind belief like in Islam or Christianity. Vedas are not supposed to represent beginning points of blind belief for ignorant souls. On contrary, Vedas represent the ultimate benchmarks of knowledge that can be fully understood when fully devoid of ignorance. So one is expected to simply follow path of truth, do thorough introspection, extend one’s capabilities and then embrace Vedas in a more organic manner rather than through brute-force blind faith.

Doubt: When the universe dissolves completely, even the books of Vedas get destroyed and even study of Vedas stops. Why are then Vedas eternal?

1. As discussed earlier, Vedas do not represent books, paper, ink etc. They represent ‘relation’ between Shabda (sound/word) and knowledge. In other words, they are the ‘best or most perfect representation’ of eternal knowledge in sound/words. When the universe dissolves, even then the eternal knowledge remains same in Ishwar. It is in hidden form, because there is no creation to manifest it in sounds/words. But just as sapling remains hidden in seed, Vedas still remain and germinate when creation happens again and opportunity arises to represent this eternal knowledge in sound/words.

2. Rigveda 10.190.3 states that Ishwar creates the universe exactly in same manner as it created previously. Thus in all creations, the same sounds/words perfectly represent the eternal knowledge of Vedas. Hence the same Vedas, as we see or hear today, represent the eternal knowledge always without an iota of change.

3. And hence in each creation, Ishwar institutes the method of preserving Vedas in same manner through Paatha Vidhis and Maatra markups as earlier. Thus Vedas remain as protected even in mundane world as always.

Doubt: As per texts of grammar, union of certain alphabets lead to change and removal of alphabets as in Sandhi. Thus words would be different when separated and when united. How can then words be eternal?

1. As discussed above, such rules of grammar are only effects. They are not cause – the knowledge. Even when words change as per rules of grammar, the knowledge they represent remains eternal. Hence Vedas remain eternal.

2. As per Aarsh texts, Shabda or words mean the “meaning” that is embraced when we hear from ears, see from eyes, speak from ‘mouth’ and understand from ‘intellect’. Thus Shabda is not non-eternal, only physical process of grasping or propagating Shadba is.

3. If you and me say the same word, both produce different sound patterns. But the meaning is unchanged. Hence Vedas – the knowledge of Ishwar – is eternal regardless of way we speak or combine words as per grammar.

Doubt: Even Shabda get destroyed after pronunciation. And they do not exist before pronunciation. How can then Shabda be eternal?

1. This is the problem. You are misrepresenting the meaning of ‘Shabda’ as per your own conceptions. As discussed earlier, Shabda represents relationship with knowledge. This relationship is eternal and unchanged. Pronunciation is an effect and hence not eternal. But regardless of pronunciation happening or not, the relation of a particular pronunciation with the meaning it represents is eternal.

2. In fact all Shabda are eternal, as propounded by scholars of grammar like Panini and Vyas. And hence those Shabda that represents eternal knowledge to maximize our bliss – the Vedas – are also eternal.

All the Darshans – Meemansa by Jaimini (1.1.18), Vaisheshik by Kanad ( 1.1.3), Nyaya by Gautam (2.1.67), Yoga by Patanjali (1.26), Sankhya by Kapil (5.51) and Vedanta by Vyas (1.1.3) consider Shadba to be eternal. Shankaracharya also states the same in his commentary on Vedanta.

Finally, Yajurveda 40.8 lists the properties of Ishwar as follows:

Paryagat – Omnipresent,
Shukram – All-powerful,
Avranam – Without any gaps,
Asnaviram – Without nerves, arteries and veins,
Shuddham – Perfectly devoid of ignorance or miseries
Apaapaviddham – Pious
Kavi – Knower of all
Manishi – Intelligent
Paribhoo – Controls everything and everyone
Swayambhoo – Unborn
Shashwateebhya – Eternal
Arthan Vyadadhaat – Provides true knowledge

Hence he eternally provides us with His true eternal knowledge of Vedas.

Further, something cannot happen from nothing and existence cannot spring up from non-existence. Hence if Vedas are available today, they have to be eternal always. If Ishwar has always been the same, he shall always bless us with his eternal knowledge.

We see that experience gives rise to sanskaars (tendencies or habits), sanskaars give rise to memory and we use this memory to decide what to accept and what to reject. One who studies Sanskrit creates sanskaars of Sanskrit in his mind and one who studies Latin creates sanskaars of Latin in his mind. Thus, if Ishwar did not give guidance of Vedas in inception of civilization, no human could have experienced knowledge and without experience even sanskaar of knowledge would not have been possible. Without sanskaar, even memory would have failed and hence growth of knowledge would not have been possible. Thus unless Ishwar kickstarts this process at inception of civilization, this process of pursuit of knowledge would not have started at all, just as it did not start in other species of animal world.

Doubt: But even by normal actions, humans feel pain and pleasure and they could have used that to gradually enhance knowledge and then create Vedas. Why then we need to believe that Ishwar created Vedas?

We have already discussed this doubt in article on Origin of Vedas. We deduced that no species or even tribes in jungles or an isolated child can enhance knowledge beyond most primitive level barely sufficient for survival, unless provided knowledge externally.

For example, Chimpanzees do not feel the need to introspect on death and life even when they see so many of them dying. If humans think so much on this, it has to have origin through external training. Unless Ishwar guides us at beginning of civilization, we would remain animals.

Eternal Ishwar and His eternal knowledge

Eternal entities have eternal traits. And non-eternal entities have non-eternal traits. Because the entity is identified by its traits only.

Destruction is nothing but disaggregation of elements that create something to be no more perceived by our senses; and creation is combination of elements to form something that can be perceived by senses.

Thus only those objects are created or destroyed in which aggregation and disaggregation is feasible.

Since Ishwar is omnipresent without gaps, it is impossible for Ishwar to disaggregate. Hence Ishwar is eternal and so is His knowledge.

Vaishek 4.1 states that only that is non-eternal which is effect of some other cause. For example, the pot was effect of clay coming together. So pot is non-eternal. Similarly, clay was effect of certain atoms coming together. So clay is also non-eternal. But fundamental entity that forms the atoms is eternal.

In same way Ishwar is also eternal as He is not  effect of any other cause. And hence His knowledge – the Vedas – is also eternal.

This article in Gujrati is also available at http://agniveer.com/eternity-of-vedas-gu/

 

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Bro Shravak

I saw his blog long ago. He is doing nice job. But I dont know him personally.

Anir
@Aryavratast, did you not read “when something is absolute(the only absolute), there is nothing out of it..and hence implies that the experience(if that would explain it fully) related to it must be the same.” So the assumption is that there is something called the only absolute, and based on that… Read more »
आर्यव्रतस्थ
आर्यव्रतस्थ
eg .. if a guide book helps one to navigate ones way(saying what the destination looks like) and then when one starts, he is skeptical about the correctness of the guide, then on every instruction he uses his intellect to validate the instruction , and if the instruction is corroborated… Read more »
Anir
Remember that we are talking about subjective experience. A guide book is something that exists outside of subjective experience. The veracity of its navigation can be verified objectively. one can be convinced only to certain level , the level till its in the realm that the mind understand, once it… Read more »
आर्यव्रतस्थ
आर्यव्रतस्थ

ya you are right..

Anir
@Aryavratast, “well, there is no need to judge what other individual is experiencing. there is no need at all for that.. that the beauty of it, it is for everyone but cannot be expressed in terms that can be in terms of the gross world. . . but that does… Read more »
आर्यव्रतस्थ
आर्यव्रतस्थ

yes indeed. but then again . its not for me to judge , its the one who is in that state; to experience.
it not necessary that enlightenment be achieved by only one particular way, there may be a million ways but the destination and experience must be the same.

Anir

So, if one says Vedas aren’t the only path to enlightenment, is he correct?

आर्यव्रतस्थ
आर्यव्रतस्थ
well in that case, he must have another path that would lead to the same destination .. and i cannot comment if he is right or wrong.. coz i would have to validate the path (as long as i have not already had the ultimate experience) after all its a… Read more »
Anir

How do you know if someone has reached the destination? Since experience cannot be known to anyone expect the person experiencing it, what counts as a destination?

आर्यव्रतस्थ
आर्यव्रतस्थ

i told you i dont have to know … about someone..and that destination can be explained only when reached, as i said knowing is not experiencing.
for the destination please read the upnishads or avdhoot geeta. to get a hint.

Anir
How can one tell whether one has known or experienced? They both exist as subjective experience. If someone says they have experienced it, will you take their word for it? And going back to your earlier comment – “but the destination and experience must be the same.”, since we are… Read more »
आर्यव्रतस्थ
आर्यव्रतस्थ
one had to understand, the whole purpose is to experience yourself and not to know or judge whether others have experienced.NOT A CHANCE that a truth seeker will take something at face value; it cannot be taken in any other way except than the first hand experience. i did not… Read more »
Anir
All I’m asking is, how do know one person’s first hand experience is same as another persons. As you said, “it is for everyone but cannot be expressed in terms that can be in terms of the gross world”, so it is not possible at all for someone to verbally… Read more »
आर्यव्रतस्थ
आर्यव्रतस्थ
that proof of the absolute is not what an individual has or will experience, the experience is a consequence and not the cause. did you not read “when something is absolute(the only absolute), there is nothing out of it..and hence implies that the experience(if that would explain it fully) related… Read more »
आर्यव्रतस्थ
आर्यव्रतस्थ

“has to”

Rajeev
Dear Brother Anir, Who is telling you to believe? Thats the whole question. Veda tell you to experience that yourself. You should experience that not to prove others that you have experienced that. Be it Swami Vivekanada, Swami Dayananda or Ramkrishna Paramhansa, nobody has tried to make others believe that… Read more »
आर्यव्रतस्थ
आर्यव्रतस्थ

for eg its proved that anger , lust ,greed and violence (any kind) is a hindrance, and if the new path approved of any of this , then its outright to be rejected.

after all a rose smells sweet coz it does and the not the vendor tells it does.

Anir
@Aryavratast nothing is real than an experience. if someone gets slapped, one may write it n number of scientific equations and phenomenon that happen in the body, but that would not be a experience. same is the case with spirituality. i.e unless one gets slapped one would not what exactly… Read more »
आर्यव्रतस्थ
आर्यव्रतस्थ

I would not deny it.. i will put it to test.

Anyways, if Harry potter is the true way to enlightenment can you share the kriya that one has to
undergo to reach enlightenment.
and please document very stage that one goes while following the path,(which you already would have gone thorough)

Anir

I would not deny it.. i will put it to test.

How can you test an experience? On what basis will you verify the test results?

आर्यव्रतस्थ
आर्यव्रतस्थ

thats what i have been telling you all the way.. the experience has the match exactly as to what has been documented in the kriya..
and that’s how you vefiry..

Anir

But how do I know that you are having the experience as intended by the Way Of The Potter? It involves thinking the right thoughts. Since I cannot examine your experience, how do I know that you are thinking the right thoughts?

आर्यव्रतस्थ
आर्यव्रतस्थ
that’s the whole point , spirituality is not imagination(created by the mind). The first thing to do is to subdue the mind and its functions only then can one proceed with “the experience” that the veda talks about. As long as the mind is doing its usual behavior i.e driving… Read more »
Anir

You didn’t answer my question – “But how do I know that you are having the experience as intended by the Way Of The Potter?” I was not talking about the Vedas. I was talking about my real experience with the Way Of The Potter.

आर्यव्रतस्थ
आर्यव्रतस्थ

There is no way for you to know what i am experiencing, that the crux.. you have to know(not just claim) it on your own… and then judge.

Anir

How do you know that ones does not know, but just claims it ? And how are you going to judge an quantity that is unknowable to everyone except the person who experiences it?

आर्यव्रतस्थ
आर्यव्रतस्थ
well, there is no need to judge what other individual is experiencing. there is no need at all for that.. that the beauty of it, it is for everyone but cannot be expressed in terms that can be in terms of the gross world. if someone just claims (false one)… Read more »
Praveen

Someone asked me if Vedas had so much knowledge, was that ever used? Can you clarify, please?

Pradeep

Albert Einstein
(1879 -1955):

“When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and reflect about how God created this universe everything else seems so superfluous.”

“We owe a lot to the Indians, who taught us how to count, without which no worthwhile scientific discovery could have been made.“

einstein

if you know vedas your doubts would quell. so do something about it.

Anir
Vedas were written before the invention of the telescope, without the help of which one can’t see Titan. So according to me it is highly unlikely (I would have said surely, but then I don’t know Vedas) that one would find any information regarding Titan in the Vedas. Is that… Read more »
आर्यव्रतस्थ
आर्यव्रतस्थ

science is getting to it..(slowly but sure it will get there some day )

http://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/science/article1011760.ece?homepage=true

आर्यव्रतस्थ
आर्यव्रतस्थ
LOL,well it was directed towards evolution theory..(not otherwise i.e Adam and eve and Israel) anyways i or you wont be alive to see that science itself would scientifically state that evolution did not happen. its just that time does not leave evidence for long..and documentation of findings and knowledge is… Read more »
Anir
Anyways i or you wont be alive to see that science itself would scientifically state that evolution did not happen. Mere speculation. its just that time does not leave evidence for long..and documentation of findings and knowledge is not permanent and knowledge does not get transferred fully from one to… Read more »
आर्यव्रतस्थ
आर्यव्रतस्थ
the technologies that you are talking about wont last a sec in a severe natural calamity. the buildings build by the ancients still stand after thousands of years… look at the pyramids.., anghorwat etc.(testimony to the existence of those who lived) “but whereas the wheel earlier used to make one… Read more »
Anir
the technologies that you are talking about wont last a sec in a severe natural calamity. Really? Have you heard about nuclear bunkers or underground vaults that are designed precisely for the purpose of surviving doomsday scenarios? And there is also an unstated false premise lurking in your argument –… Read more »
आर्यव्रतस्थ
आर्यव्रतस्थ

ya you are right.. bunkers.. will be saved in earthquakes and plate movements..
Your are fascinated with Harry potter 🙂

just remembered ; you said that Vedas don’t explain death and consciousness(as science cannot),how did you know that

आर्यव्रतस्थ
आर्यव्रतस्थ
nothing is real than an experience. if someone gets slapped, one may write it n number of scientific equations and phenomenon that happen in the body, but that would not be a experience. same is the case with spirituality. i.e unless one gets slapped one would not what exactly it… Read more »
आर्यव्रतस्थ
आर्यव्रतस्थ

the method is ashtang yog..

Anir
ya you are right.. bunkers.. will be saved in earthquakes and plate movements.. If you are going to argue from science (plate movements), can you please tell me of a case where all plates on Earth move in a such a way that all technology on Earth is destroyed? If… Read more »
Anir

What do you mean that science is getting to it? That Israel, the chosen land of the Christian God, has evidence of Adam/Eve?

einstein
well while your at it i may aswell recite you the whole of vedic wisdom, and even then you will not be convinced. i apologise but i cannot do that as it is too time consuming for me. i gave you a morsel of the type of info in various… Read more »
Anir
If you had asked me something specific on science I would have happily given it or if I cannot, I would say that I don’t know. This is because I know science. But I don’t know Vedas. That was why I asked a very very specific piece of information –… Read more »
einstein

Yet another strawman. I asked a very specific question. I also specifically stated what evidence means in a scientific contest.

btw the knowledge of astronomy has been verified by scientists as the same as what is written in vedic wisdom.

Anir

Since you are reluctant to answer my previous question and now that you have mentioned astronomy, can you tell me where in the Vedic wisdom is the Saturn’s moon Titan mentioned?

einstein

first read up on vedic knowledge and tell me what is against science in that. the article above is not against science is it? no it is in concordance with science. so i have given my evidence, it is up to you to disprove vedic knowledge.

einstein
yes but why should i waste my time with a person who could not even accept evidence when presented to him? its like the boy who cried wolf, when evidence is being presented you do not care for it., so why should i present to you more? first understand what… Read more »
Anir

Yet another strawman. I asked a very specific question. I also specifically stated what evidence means in a scientific contest.

Anir

*context

einstein
when you said vedas arent scientific i showed you in the aforementioned comment just the 0.01 percent evidence of science that is included within them(of course there is MUCH more) and how modern science is struggling with the concepts. You however are not satisfied even when evidence is presented to… Read more »
Anir

0.01 % and there is more? Then please answer my original question:

1. Is it reasonable to assume that this knowledge can explain the state of the Universe (and by inclusion the Earth) at any point in the past or the future?

आर्यव्रतस्थ
आर्यव्रतस्थ

Rightly said

einstein
Check out some of these interesting scientific concepts known to humankind thousands of years ago – all contained in the Hindu Vedas and Puranas, which revealed facts only recently discovered or proven by scientists. It is beyond reason that anyone even before ‘Adam and Eve walked on Earth’ have known… Read more »
Hindu from Kerala

Sceintific facts you siad above are almost unbelivable .Can you provide reference ? Atomosphere is exactly 100km(60 m) high. I checked wiki. Please provide which verse in SB says that.

Anir
Strawman. I try to chose my words carefully when commenting. This is the premise of my arguments: But what I am interested is in settling the issue of claims of universal/eternal knowledge in the Vedas. Because the word “Universal” means all encompassing that includes the observed world. Same goes with… Read more »
आर्यव्रतस्थ
आर्यव्रतस्थ
@Anir : seems now you have an issue with the linguistic usage words Universal/Eternal ( the modified word is “Knowledge”), Now you have to see the entire usage “Universal/eternal Knowledge”, it means that the knowledge which is VALID Universally . you will not find the knowledge of how to tie… Read more »
Anir
Thanks for the clarification. So the Vedas do not contain knowledge about all of the observed Universe. Also, where is the evidence that the Vedas predict the age of Earth as 4.5 billion years? And remember, you are making a fact proposition. The evidence that is needed for a thing… Read more »
Proud to be A Kafir
The next question that I am expecting from Anir is that Do vedas contain the knowledge that Anir’s father’s sperm and his mother’s ova would indeed mate to produce Anir ! If yes , then where ? If no, then it means vedas don’t contain all the knowledge of the… Read more »
आर्यव्रतस्थ
आर्यव्रतस्थ

@Anir : Hard data? i don’t think that would invoke any response..
Bro our discussion would end here.
Btw do try to foster you spiritual side as well..
Take care

Anir
If the Vedas are just representations of an eternally existing knowledge, I have a couple of questions on the nature of this knowledge: 1. Is it reasonable to assume that this knowledge can explain the state of the Universe (and by inclusion the Earth) at any point in the past… Read more »
Arya
@Anir Brother, we believe Vedas to be the knowledge of Eeshvar/God Himself. I know you dont believe in God so talking about His knowledge would be too early at this point of time. Lets settle the issue of existence of Eeshvar/God first. We are continuing the discussion on the same… Read more »
Anir
I’m not interested in the issue of god. We both know where we stand on that issue. I need intersubjective and reproducible evidence, but for you qualia is proof enough. We differ in the epistemology we have chosen, so that issue cannot be resolved. But what I am interested is… Read more »
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abhijeet4288

Mankind have to face all the problems in the name of religion i.e. genocide etc.

TOTAGOTO
Arya brothers, muslims are criticizing this mantra. “Homage to the conquering, piercing Lord of assailing bands, homage to the towering sword-bearer, to the Master of thieves homage! Homage to the gliding robber, to the roamer, to the Master of forests homage! Homage to the cheat, to the arch-deceiver, to the… Read more »
Arya

@TOTAGOTO
Brother, giving you the link where you will find the Hindi translation of these Mantras. Please let me know if still have difficulty?

http://www.aryasamajjamnagar.org/yajurveda/yajurveda.htm

TOTAGOTO

arya brother i am a bangali. better if you give english.

Arya
@TOTAGOTO Brother, providing you the message of these Mantras, not giving word to word translation. Would request any of our brother/sister to do that from Hindi translation available at http://www.aryasamajjamnagar.org/yajurveda/yajurveda.htm Mantra 20. People should help those, who are in search of something good, who protect us from enemies with their… Read more »
TOTAGOTO

thts why muslims misinterpret it. because they are supporter of osama bin laden

Arya

@TOTAGOTO
Brother, giving you the link where you will find the Hindi translation of these Mantras. Please let me know if still have difficulty?

Sunny Chawla

@TOTAGOTO
Check these three images for the correct meanings, if u can read Hindi ….
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DALIT
Steve has written: Yajur Veda Adhyay (Chapter) 13; Mantra (Verse) 37 says that : “O Learned man! You have gained knowledge from ancient scholars. You are charitable. Join your trained horses to your chariots, ready to face your enemy and establish yourself on the throne on justice.” Here ancient scholars… Read more »
Arya
@DALIT (hope you will not continue to be so) Which word in this Mantra gives you the meaning “ancient”? Mantra has the word “Poorvyah”, which means “before”. So, for those four Rishis, who were given Vedas, “Poorvyah” is Eeshvar because He possessed the knowledge of Vedas from beginningless time. And… Read more »
john

hi agniveer or to whoever this may concern, is it possible that through the last thought before death if i am thinking of an animal then i will have to transmigrate to an animals body?

Steve
@aamir Its just like saying the Father was born from the son. LOL. Although the novice Islam which started 1400 years ago in 600A.D. has nothing to take with the histories of the far ancient civilizations. But Islam is based on negative logic since inception. Its just like a dwarf… Read more »
Steve
@aamir Well that guy goes on with his self created theories and as usual discards all comments of any criticism. Moreover, Instead of moving In, the fact is the Indian civilization spread from the Indus Valley Civilization (one of the oldest one) at current Pakistan to Shri Lanka (where Ram… Read more »
aamir

a brother has refuted the eternity of vedas………see here

http://www.theintellectual.info/religion/hinduism

chandra

Arya ,

Can you provide translation of Rig Veda 10.90.10

Also pls refer to Haridas’s explanation.

What for this Yagna was done?.

Arya
@Chandra Mantra says-“All the four Vedas have been created by Eeshvar, who is also the ultimate cause of all the creation”. Yajna means an act which involves no selfishness but only intention for the betterment of others. In the Mantra all the creation has been called a result of Eeshvar’s… Read more »
vasudevarao

The purport of the Mantra is worship the creator and not the created.

Sunny Chawla

Bro, does “andhatma pravishanti ye assambhuti mupaste” mean “they sink into darkness, those who worship natural things” ???

Arya
@Sunny Asambhuti means “Prakriti”, which is smallest form of matter and is “Upaadan Kaaran” (material cause) of the physical world. So, Mantra says that those who worship Prakriti, sink into darkness. The essence of this whole Mantra is that only Eeshvar is worthy to be worshipped alone out of three… Read more »
hinduagnostic

i thought asambhuti was ignorance a fellow arya samaji told me the vedas is quite on idol worship

Haridas
Rig Veda 10.90.10 तस्माद यज्ञात सर्वहुत रचः सामानि जज्ञिरे | छन्दांसिजज्ञिरे तस्माद यजुस्तस्मादजायत || This verse from rig veda says that vedas such as rig , sama and yaju came from the yagya performed that was performed for Lord. So what does arya samaj has to say about it? It… Read more »
Arya
@Haridas Namaste, Which word in the Mantra means "For Lord"? Mantra uses "Panchami Vibhakti" of Vyakaran, which means "from" and not "for". Thus "Tasmaat" means "from that". Regarding the word "Yajnaat", refer Shatpath Brahman, Nighantu, and Rigvedaadi Bhashya Bhumika, which have translated "Yajna" as Eeshvar [Yajno Vai Vishnuh]. Thus the… Read more »
Rashmi

Please see the video Scientific verification of Vedas, worth seeing. do a google search and be proud of Indian Heritage

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