How Islam was sabotaged

There must have been a truly noble inspiration behind Muhammad’s decision to name his belief-system as Islam – that means ‘humble submission’ or ‘peace’. Perhaps he was inspired by the vision of Vedas that resides within every human being to seek peace, equality, rationality and humility in his tribe. On surface, the great Muhammad was just another disease-inflicted ordinary illiterate born in the primitive Arabic society that hardly knew of any world beyond Arab and any religion beyond Paganism, Judaism and Christianity.  But he possessed the glorious rare inspiration to drive this mini-world of his towards enhanced sensibilities and humble submission to almighty God, despite his limitations. In a superstitious society where even his followers and relatives were fighting each other for petty selfish agendas, he possessed the guts to lay the roadmap for humble submission aka Islam despite the convulsing challenges and lack of education.

Agniveer salutes the genius of this great legend. That is why Agniveer considers Muhammad to be a role model. It wonders what would have been the nature of miracles the glorious Muhammad would have performed, had he received the opportunity to understand formally even the rudimentary basics of Vedas, Brahmacharya, Upasana and Vedic Dharma in general. Alas! It is difficult to comprehend His Lila at times!

Nevertheless, Muhammad was so far-ahead of his primitive society, that for them, his message was the final message for all times in future. But little did he knew that very message of peace given by him would become the breeding ground of terrorist forces, violence and intolerance immediately after his era!

Thus we all know how immediately after his death, his politically motivated followers cooked up fake Hadiths and killed each other to compile a Quran of their own choice, disregarding the true motto of humble Muhammad. Even his son-in-law and child-wife were fighting each other claiming divinity. One claimed that Quran was actually supposed to be have revealed on him. Other said that her marriage to Muhammad as a baby was ordained divinely by Allah Himself! Quran was supposed to have been collected from leafs, twigs, cloth pieces, leather pieces and what not! A lot many people were killed for claiming to propagate ‘false’ verses of Quran and even the Caliph who finally compiled the final official version of Quran 20 years after death of Muhammad, was murdered! What could be greater mockery of Islam that stood for Peace!

If this was not sufficient, even the word ‘Quran’ was coined much after death of Muhammad! And then began the satanic mission of dominating the entire world with this new ‘Quran’ and fake ‘Sahih Hadiths’ in name of order of Allah! Thus the simple message of Muhammad was converted into a recipe for intolerance that did not spare even followers of Islam.

Since then, peaceful Muslims have been murdered and subverted. The saga continues even till today. And all that happens in name of Muhammad!

First false stories were cooked up through fake Hadiths and fake verses of Quran to create a completely fictitious account of Muhammad’s life. These stories insult the great Muhammad by claiming that Muhammad was a pedophile, he used to promote sex-slavery, he married his daughter-in-law, he killed many innocents and what not. And then those who opposed it were threatened with damaging consequences!

Agniveer stands against such a grave insult to this great person and hence rejects all those Hadiths and verses of Quran that denigrate his character. Instead of trying to justify objectionable stories through even more objectionable reasons, we outrightly reject them as imaginations of Muhammad’s politically and criminally motivated relatives and followers.

The conquest of post-Muhammad Islam  in entire world, thus, is nothing but a political and criminal expedition continuing even till today, that has nothing to do with original legacy of Muhammad. And the worst victims have been the sane, rational, compassionate and good Muslims.

Times have changed, methods have changed, but one thing remains same – ALMOST ALL GROUPS AND PEOPLE WHO AGGRESSIVELY REPRESENT ISLAM AND WANT WORLD TO EMBRACE ISLAM ARE TERRORISTS.

So Babur was a terrorist, Aurangzeb was a terrorist, Nadir Shah was a terrorist, Ghazni was a terrorist and today Zakir Naik (including his entire cult of supporters) are terrorists.

Terrorists have become spokespersons of Islam

Two weeks ago, we wrote an article requesting Muslims on Agniveer site to share their views on certain specific points relating to terrorist and barbaric views of likes of Zakir Naik. This was done to segregate good Muslims from fanatics who were threatening Agniveer and all critics of ‘Terrorist Islam of Zakir Naik et al’ with dire consequences. You can review the article here:

Islam will not be a threat if…

We did not publish anything for last 2 weeks to await response on this article. We disabled commenting on other Islam related articles to have clear views of good Muslims on this article first and thus differentiate them from ‘terrorist Muslims’.

But the results from comments and mails that we received in these 2 weeks were most disappointing and shocking:

a. Not one single Muslim dared to condemn Zakir Naik for his justification of killing apostates and forbidding non-Muslims to preach in Muslim countries yet have rights for Muslims to propagate Islam in non-Muslim countries. Thus Zakir Naik is more important to them than the great Muhammad!

b. There were people who vaguely agreed to most of the points of articles were still refused to reject or condemn the books and people who support such views strongly. On other hand they would very vociferously condemn Agniveer for these articles defending Muhammad and rejecting the false Islam! Why such double standards? Nothing except Al-Taqiah (concept of fraud legitimized by religion) can explain it.

c. Many claimed that there is no concept of nationalism in Islam. A Muslim should only support a Muslim regardless of country. Thus cheating one’s own country to support a Muslim from other country represents true Islam as per them! In other words, they agree that one should never be assured about patriotism of Muslims!

This is one of the greatest dilemmas for good Muslims – how-so-much patriotic they may be, Al-Taqiah or ‘divinely blessed fraud’ and anti-national ideologies of their leaders and representatives would always put a question mark on their credibility.

d. There were people who openly justified things like Jaziya on non-Muslims because Muslims also pay another kind of tax. They refused to justify why tax-system should be based on one’s religion. And no Muslim criticized such views. Discrimination on basis of religion is something ingrained in their blood from very childhood and nothing can be more dangerous for humanity.

e. Not one single Muslim came up to say that all such Hadiths which insult Muhammad or humanity in general should be rejected regardless of they being called ‘Sahih’ (Correct) or not.

In other words, its ok for them to call Muhammad a pedophile, rapist, murderer, psychopath, lecher and they would go all lengths to justify all these through most perverted logics. But they would not agree to simply reject all these bogus verses that insult the great person. To the fanatic Muslim, their uneducated Ulemas and semi-literate witch-doctors like Zakir Naik are more important that Muhammad.

So blinded are they by vision of fanatic Islam, that they refuse to apply their minds to conclude even this much that if Islam means humble submission or peace, all the verses of Quran or Hadiths that talk of contrary have to be false!

f. No one condemned Saudi Arab or other countries for disallowing other religions but justified their rights to preach Islam elsewhere! They simply stated that it is their internal matter and hence they would not comment. I wonder why they do not apply the same standards for Agniveer site or Ali Sina or Salman Rushdie. When they can refuse to comment on Saudi Arab killing apostates in name of Islam, what prompts them to apply altogether different standards for non-Muslims? Are we witnessing yet another form of Al-Taqiah?

Summary Lessons

Under such a situation, following points emerge clearly:

a. ALL those Muslims who try to defend Islam or Zakir Naik are basically with terrorist mindsets. They believe that till they are powerless, they should vaguely showcase Islam as peace through Al-Taqiah. But once in dominance, verse of Sword takes over. Finally when dominance is complete, apostates deserve being killed!

b. Good Muslims simply do not come to debate or defend Islam or Quran. They peacefully indulge in their activities but are scared to condemn fanatic Muslims because these fanatic Muslims have a grip over Muslim population.

We met a few noble-hearted Muslims who even admitted that new Quran and Hadiths is all crap and has nothing to do with actual Islam. Others agreed that all existing translations of these texts published and propagated by mainstream Islamic schools are wrong. But they feared to come in public with such views because they are scared of the brutal dominance of terrorist minds over Islamic society that cannot tolerate any questions. The safety of their lives and those of their near and dear ones prevents them from condemning the false Islam in open.

c. While an Agniveer would be immediately condemned for anything against their views, Muslim preachers would not dare criticize Zakir Naik for his intolerant views on apostasy because Islam forbids condemning fellow Jihadis. This is because as per modern Islam (new Quran and fake Hadiths), the first and foremost criteria to qualify as being innocent, or humble, or deserving mercy, or not deserving hatred is being a Muslim (non-Muhammad version). Being non-Muslim is greatest crime for terrorists like Zakir Naik and his followers.

d. Most of these Muslims are brainwashed from childhood to hate non-Muslims. We received several mails that laid imaginary allegations on us for abusing and using defamatory words against Muhammad in our articles. When we replied requesting specific references, there was no response. Basically this is a case of a typical Jihadi Muslim taught to stereotype anyone who questions them to be abusive and insulting. They live in their world of hateful imaginations and create allegations that exist only in their minds!

e. A typical Jihadi aka terrorist Muslim propagating Dawah or invitation to Islam sees world in only two colors – green and non-green like a dog. The definition of green varies from cult to cult and person to person. So a wahabi terrorist like Zakir Naik or Osama would consider even Sufis and Qadiyanis as non-green. A Qadiyani would allow even non-Muslims into heaven in certain conditions. A typical Shia would not take religious scriptures so seriously but a Sunni would abuse Shia as a non-green.

f. Al-Taqiah or Cheating is an established way to fool people into believing that their version of Islam means peace. And obviously, it being ‘cheating’, no one would admit that they ‘cheat’! But it is clear from their deeds – when they claim Islam is peace but refuse to condemn those fellow terrorists like Zakir Naik who justify death for apostates!

g. Two of the worst hit casualties of terrorist dominance of Islam have been:

– Innocent good Muslims who want to join the mainstream, reject fundamentalism, live and let live, be patriots, be productive citizens but are helpless because they are at gunpoint of fundamentalists. Further they are brainwashed since childhood to remain in confused state throughout their lives.

– The founder of Islam – Muhammad. Today the world knows a completely different Muhammad – thanks to fake Hadiths and false Quran – and either hates him or adores him for all the wrong reasons. Only the word ‘Islam’ implying Peace and Humility stands to hint at original message and intent of original Muhammad. All the rest of the evidences and testimonies have been long deleted by terrorist Islam.

This represents the most dangerous situation for humanity as a whole:

– Till perverts like Zakir Naik remain in dominance, along with the entire mafia that breeds fanaticism and terrorism, non-Muslims and even moderate Muslims cannot afford to remain in peace.

– The concept of Al-Taqiah combined with foolish secularism of fraud leaders cutting across party lines, brainless glamor driven media and commercial mafia ensures that they would never explore the roots of terrorism – false Hadiths, false Quran and the mafia that perpetuates this fraud and instead confuse ordinary citizens about true nature of Islam through ‘My name is Khan’, or beaten records of ‘ Terrorism has no religion’ or other gimmicks.

This allows fanatic terrorist forces like IRF to spread their web more easily and work towards shaking the foundations through conversions, deceit and attacks.

– Good Muslims continue to remain scapegoats and viewed with doubt and mistrust across the globe. This is further used by terrorists like Zakir Naik to spread hatred against non-Muslims and promote attacks like 9/11 or 26/11 or Kashmir Jihad.

Soul of Muhammad would continue to weep over such mockery of his efforts!

The only way out

a. Spread education among ordinary Muslims and non-Muslims alike about true Muhammad and false Islam. The mainstream media mafia and political frauds would act as barriers but alternative means must be explored. There is no other way.

b. Create an environment of welcome and invitation for bringing back good Muslims back to Vedic fold – their original roots. This would help them live with dignity without anyone doubting their intents and patriotism.

c. Muslims have been the most uneducated class thanks to misdeeds of their leaders and preachers like Zakir Naik. Today the contribution of Muslims to Indian economy is negligible. In fact disgusting policies like Sachar Committee recommendations are being used to allow incompetent have preferential rights over country’s resources.

The only productive Muslims are those who are non-Muslims as per standards of fanatics like Zakir Naik. For example a Bohra like Azim Premji or Upanishad and Geeta lover like APJ Abul Kalam.

In fact by reading the comments made by defenders of Zakir Naik on Agniveer site itself, one can assess the level of education, mastery of language and intelligence of an average Zakir fan.

Thus Muslim youth HAVE to be educated BEYOND the Madarsa farce. They need to be taught personality development, etiquettes, communication skills, technical skills, logical and analytical abilities and modern science so that jokers and cartoons like Terrorist Naik do not become their role models.

I wish if instead of such a joker, an Azim Premji, or APJ Abul Kalam, or Ashfaqullah, or Abdul Hamid would have been their role  models!

Agniveer Plans

Agniveer is committed to this mission to safeguard the entire humanity and is resolved to take following immediate steps:

a. Create more articles on Vedas and Vedic Dharma so that Muslims and non-Muslims alike can understand the true concepts and not go by fake brainwashing that is imbibed by fanatics since childhood. Thus all false notions about Vedas like polytheism, casteism need to be eradicated and its true rational, scientific and logical face would be explored.

b. Create a Dawah site to invite good Muslims back to Vedic fold. Also launch the Dawah movement of Shuddhi at ground level to help good Muslims embrace true Islam that points only to Vedic Dharma. We have already been doing this but would launch this in more structured manner now. This does not mean conversion from one religion to another. It means accepting entire humanity as own family.

c. Have a section on Personality Development to teach specific skills and concepts that would help a typical reader have a better attitude, more effective communication skills, seek a decent job, enhance his or her career, improve soft skills, improve logical and analytical reasoning, enhance emotional intelligence, improve aptitude and be more professional in whatever they do.

Agniveer team comprises people from IIT, IIM, PGs in Medical Science, Top Executives etc and hence believes that this would be an effective way to help everyone, especially Muslims be more competent in being productive and useful for country and the world. After all this is the core foundation of Vedas!

And also learn, in process, why a rude, illogical, comical, ill-mannered fanatic terrorist like Zakir Naik should not be a role model for any sensible human being.

d. Continue to refuse to debate or discuss with anyone who does not first openly and clearly condemn Zakir Naik for his views of killing apostates and all non-Muslims going to Hell. Unless and until one very clearly puts his or her stand on the 10 points mentioned in

Islam will not be a threat if…

we would continue to bracket such persons into ‘Terrorist gang’ and refuse to have any discussions with them. After all discussions happen only with humans and not terrorists.

e. We have received a huge number of challenges for debates. It is impossible for us to allocate scholars for every child that desires to debate us. So we request them to follow the steps listed in http://agniveer.com/terms/eligibility-rules-for-debate/ and send us the necessary details. But only after they have expressed their clear humanist views in:

Islam will not be a threat if…

The above article has summarized the essence of our entire stand against fanatic Islam and why we consider followers of the version of Islam who dare not condemn those who seek death and Hell for non-Muslims as greatest threat for humanity.

Agniveer movement is resolved to expose and eradicate this terrorism in name of religion through all legitimate means (non- Taqiah!) as ordained in Vedic Religion in brief.

The next phase of Agniveer movement would witness a shift in focus by bringing education and personality development among all who are either victims (non-Muslims) or scapegoats (good Muslims) of intolerant Islam through ground level as well as internet based initiatives. We shall conduct an experiment on how peace, tolerance, compassion, education and knowledge can melt away the strongest walls of terrorism, hatred and intolerance.

We pray to Ishwar for His blessings to enable us to make utmost efforts to reach a situation where we are no longer required to segregate people as Muslim/ non-Muslim and can proudly refer to all our brothers and sisters as humans alone regardless of religion.

The Goal is far and the night is dark.
But He is my light and I can walk!

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Disclaimer: By Quran and Hadiths, we do not refer to their original meanings. We only refer to interpretations made by fanatics and terrorists to justify their kill and rape. We highly respect the original Quran, Hadiths and their creators. We also respect Muslim heroes like APJ Abdul Kalam who are our role models. Our fight is against those who misinterpret them and malign Islam by associating it with terrorism. For example, Mughals, ISIS, Al Qaeda, and every other person who justifies sex-slavery, rape of daughter-in-law and other heinous acts. For full disclaimer, visit "Please read this" in Top and Footer Menu.
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166 COMMENTS

  1. This is a Veic site -Hinduism, why is Islam being mentioned, let us not detract to other faiths and focus on the beauty of our faith!

    • yes but to remove misconceptions made by muslims and others if they respect us then we can respect them but most do not

      • @Agniveer Agni
        ______One who attacks cannot be a Muslim._________
        But Quran says

        Quran (4:76) – “Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…”

        Quran (2:216) – “Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.”

      • @ Truth Seeker

        Refrain yourself from misquoting or partially quoting the verses from Qur’an in order to spice up your fantasies.

        Quran (4:76)

        “Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah , and those who disbelieve fight in the cause of Taghut. So fight against the allies of Satan. Indeed, the plot of Satan has ever been weak.”

        [i]Surprisingly (2:216) provides a very complete meaning when read along with its context as in Qur’an (2:190) which says[/i]

        “And Fight in God’s cause AGAINST THOSE WHO WAGE WAR against you, but do not commit aggression-for, verily, God does not love aggressors.”

      • brother it says “Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that ye hate a thing which is good for you, and it may happen that ye love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth, ye know not” 2.216 and “Those who believe do battle for the cause of Allah; and those who disbelieve do battle for the cause of idols. So fight the minions of the devil. Lo! the devil’s strategy is ever weak”. 4.76

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  3. Great work Agniveer, I must say that I have much relieved that there are people who are confronting people like Zakir Naik and likes… I am reading your articles from some time… and I am also a fan of Ali Sina. In this article you have written that the Muhammad portrayed in Shih Hadths and Seerat is not the true Muhammad, can you please explain a bit more about it. Mr. Sina seems to have a very different take on this issue.
    Thank You

  4. 100 ki seedhi ek baat kahun mai radhe bhai, ki ek purani kahawat hai ki “ek nek/sachche raste per chalne wale ko is duniya me kabhi sukoon nahi milta”, wohi is kalyugi dunia me ho rha hai aur kuch nahi,,

    • आपने सही कहा!

      दुनिया में किसी अच्छे इनसान को जीने का मौका नही मिलता। लेकिन यह सत्य नही कि केवल अच्छे मुसलमान ही प्रताड़ित होते है। प्रताड़ित कोई भी हो सकता है – फिर चाहे वह हिन्दू हो अथवा ईसाई, यहुदी, पारसी, जैन, बौद्ध क्यो न हो। आचार्य चाणक्य के अनुसार

      नात्यंतं सरलैर्भाव्यं गत्वा पश्य वनस्थलीं। छिद्यंते सरलास्तत्र कुब्जास्तिष्ठन्ति पादपा:॥ चाणक्य नीती 7.12

      अर्थात आवश्यकता से अधिक सरल न बनो – जाओ वन मे देखो। पहले सीधे वृक्ष कटते है और टेढ़े मेढ़े खड़े ही रहते है। अत: दबाया तो किसी भी नेक मनुष्य को जा सकता है। किंतु यदि विशेष रुप से देखा जाए तो पाया जाएगा कि नेक मुसलमान बाकी प्राणियो से 2 गुना अधिक दबते है। अब एक उदाहरण यहाँ दिया गया है।

      http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qadir_Sheikh_(former_Muslim)

      इस्लाम को छोड़कर ऐसा कोई धर्म नही जहाँ कुछ प्रश्न पूछने पर यदि अपने को उत्तर नही पता है तो पूछने वाले को धार्मिक स्थलो में प्रवेश बन्द करा दिया जाता है। बेचारे की 37 वर्षो की निष्ठा का उसे पुरस्कार नही बल्कि दण्ड मिला। यदि मुल्ला / मौलवी लोग ऐसे कर्म करेंगे तो एक पुरानी कहावत आप भी सुनिए – “एक मछली सारा तालाब गन्दा करती है”

      आवश्यकता है कि धार्मिक कट्टरता को छोड़कर उसे सुधारा जाए। तभी विश्व में मानवता पूर्णतया प्रतिस्थापित की जा सकती है अन्यथा धर्म के नाम पर अधर्म होता रहेगा। सर्वत्र शांति स्थापित हो।

    • arya bhai mai aapki yeh baat se sahmat nahi ki insan ko galat uska deen/dharm banata hai, kyunki deen/dharam to sirf shanti or aman ki siksha deta hai, ab ramayan me hi aapke bhagwan RAM ko hi dekhe sari umar kitni pareshaniyon ka samna kerte hain (jo wo kerne ke uddesya se aye the) fir bhi wo wahi kerte hai jo ek dharm ke hisab se kerna chahiye,

      • अशरफ़ भाई !

        यह सत्य है कि सभी धर्म मानवता का ही सन्देश देते है। लेकिन उस धर्म का कोई लाभ नही जिसका कोई पालन करने वाला नही हो। अब क़ुरान के 2 256 में पुरी पुस्तक का सार दे दिया कि मजहब में कोई जबरदस्ती नही क्योकि सत्य असत्य से अलग ही रहेगा। …

        परंतु प्रश्न यह उठता है कि कौन है जो अल्लाह के इस महावाक्य को स्वीकारता है? कई देशो में गैर मुसलमानो की हत्या कर दी जाती है। गैर मुसलमान छोड़िए – शिया, सुन्नी, सुफी आपस में लड़ मरते है। जब ऐसे समाचार पढ़ता हू तो सोचता हु कि – या अल्लाह तू अंतत: चाहता क्या है? अभी youtube पे कुछ चलचित्र देख रहा था तो पाया कि सारे हादिस किसी धर्मभ्रष्ट ने मुसलमानो को नष्ट करने के लिए बनाए है। अरब में स्वधर्मत्यागी ( अर्थात apostate ) को मार दिया जाता है। वहाँ पर पत्थर फेंककर मारा जाता है। आपको जानकर आश्चर्य होगा कि ऐसा कोई अनर्थकारी उपदेश क़ुरान में नही है। 41 34 और 41 35 में तो बुराई का बदला अच्छाई से ही देने को कहा है। फिर अधिकांश आतंकवादी मुसलमान क्यो?

        एक प्रश्न पूछना था – क़ुरान 9 5 के अनुसार मुसलमानो को प्रतिमापूजको को मारने का विधान है। विद्वान कहते है कि मुसलमानो ने प्रतिमापूजको के साथ सन्धि करी थी और प्रतिमापूजको ने उसके नियम भंग किए। तो मैं यह जानता चाहता हु कि अल्लाह ने सामान्यीकरण क्यों किया? कुछ प्रतिमापूजको ने सन्धि तोड़ी – उन्हे मारो। सारे प्रतिमापूजको को मारने का आदेश क्यो दिया? यदि अल्लाह सामान्यीकरण करने लगा तो मनुष्य क्यो न करे? एक मुसलमान आतंकवादी – सबको मारो। ऐसी अराजकता अल्लाह क्यो फैलाना चाहता है?

        तो यह कुछ समस्याए है जिनका समाधान करना है। अंतत: केवल यह कहना चाहुँगा कि सर्वत्र शांति स्थापित हो।

  5. kurani allah ke sath muhammad ji ka nam kyo? batlaiye kuran me kis ayat me kalma likha hai ? jab ved jinko mile ved ka gyaan mukhy hai jin maharshiyo ko mila vah mukhy nahi hai 1 ramayan mukhy hai tulsi das v valmiki ji aur na jane kitne lekhko ne ramayan likhi ai mukhy nahi hai ! rel ke injan ke avishakarkarta ka nam kitne lohg jante hai? mobaail fon ke avishkar karta ka kitne log jante hai lekin istemal to sabhi karte hai ?

  6. GLORY OF SUFIS IN INDIA…..
    http://dikgaj.wordpress.com/dealing-with-islamic-terror-indian-subcontinent/

    ==> The Islamic conversion in India of non-Muslims into Islam has been declared to have been done by Sufi preachers who were always a very tolerant, integrative, and peaceful interpretation of Islam always using peaceful means to convert Hindus. Let us see, what the Sufi’s themselves say about their conversion methods in the early days of Islam in India.

    The author of Siyarul-Arifin, Hamid bin Fazlullah is also known as Dervish Jamali Kamboh Dihlawi. He was a Sufi of the Suhrawardiyya sect who died in AD 1536 while accompanying the Mughal Emperor Humayun on an expedition to Gujarat. His son, Shykh Gadai was with the Mughal army in the Second Battle of Panipat (AD 1556) and advised Akbar to kill the Hindu king, Himu imprisoned in battle, with his own hand. On Akbar’s refusal, according to Badauni, Shykh Gadai helped Bairam Khan in beheading the blinded and fatally wounded Himu [So much for treatment of prisoners of war in Islam]. This work, completed between AD 1530 and 1536, is an account of the Chishti and Suhrawardi Sufis of the period.

    Sheikh Jalaluddin Tabrizi (AH 533-623) was the second most famous disciple of Sheikh Shihabuddin Suhrawardi (AD 1145-1235), founder of the Suhrawardiyya silsila of Sufism. Having lived in Multan, Delhi and Badaun, he finally settled down in Lakhanauti, also known as Gaur, in Bengal.

    Devatala (Bengal) “Shaikh Jalaluddin had many disciples in Bengal. He first lived at Lakhnauti, constructed a khanqah and attached a langar to it. He also bought some gardens and land to be attached to the monastery. He moved to Devatalla (Deva Mahal) near Pandua in northern Bengal. There a kafir (either a Hindu or a Buddhist) had erected a large temple and a well. The Shaikh demolished the temple and constructed a takiya (khanqah) and converted a large number of kafirs… Devatalla came to be known as Tabrizabad and attracted a large number of pilgrims.”
    [S.A.A. Rizvi: A History of…

  7. koi muslim sacha manusy bhi nah ban sakta ,aur n sachha muslim ban sakta hai , sachhe muslim ke liye to kuran v hadis ki gulami karni hogi muhammad ji ke adarsho para chalna hohga aj kitne muslim jaid jaise logon ko god lekar apna putr jaisa pyar de rahe hai ?muhammad ji ne apna pahala nikah mata saman vidhva khudeeja ji se kiya thaaaj kitne muslim apna pahala nikah mata saman umr ki v vidhava mahila se karte hai ?muhammad ji pachas salki umr me 6-7 sal ki umr ki poti saman aysha se nikah banane ki mansikta banai ! aaj kitne muslim pachas sal ki umr me kisi poti saman umr ki bachhi se nikah karne ki mansikta banate hai ? muhammad ji ne anek vivah karke bhi dasiyo [mariya kabti]se bagair nikah ke sex kiya , unse bachhe paida kiya[abdulla ] aaj kitne muslim is tarah ke avidh sambandh banate hai ? kamal ki bathai khuda ka ejent ka dva karne vale muhammad ji ki umr matr 63 sal tak rahi v unko rasul manne vale bahut se muslim 63 sal se jyada umr bhi pa jate hai 1 kya khuda in muslimo se muhammad ji ke mukable me jyada khush rahata hai ? ab muslim kaise manvata ke gun la sakenge ! jab muslimo ka ek tyohar hi janvaro ki hatya karme me hai khun kharaba karte hai 1 bdla khor unke sanskar me hai tab unke pas manushyta ka gun kaise ayega ? “dusre ke sath vahi vyvhar karo jo apne liye bhi pasand aye ” yahi manvta ka ek matr kasauti hai ? kya muslim is manvta ki kasauti ko chunauti dena chahenge ?jab ham kisi janvar ko svayam ya apne kisi bachhe ko hani nahi pahunchna dena chahte hai tab hame kya adhikar hai ki ham kisi janvar ko ghayal to kya uski hatya bhi kaise kare ? kya koi manushy kisi janvar ke ankh kan adi bana sakta hai tabuske ango ko kyo nasht kare jabki shakahari ban kar ham uska utpadan bhi karte hai tabhi uska upyog bhi karte hai 1 ham na kare koi hamara bhai saman manushy to avshay karta hai 1 lekin yah bat kisi janvar ke nirman par nahi lagu ho pati !

    • @raj.hyd
      Raj Ji aap thik kahate hai parantu hamare muslim bhaiyo ka tarak hai Allah ne janavaro ko manushayo ke khane ke liye hi banaya hai. Aur kitane muslman aaj kafiro ko markar unaki aurto ke sath sex karate hai jaise mohamad ne Arab ke kabilo ke logo ko kaffir kah kar mar dala aur ushi rat unki aurto ke sath sex kiya. Muslman chahate hai ki ab bhi aesa hi ho parantu ye yah nahi samajh sakate ki iss yug me ye sambhav nahi hai.

      • manniy truth seekar ji , shayad apko taklif hogi ki dosh muslimo ka nahi parantu ham ap jaiso ka hai ! “satyarth paraksh “ki kitab ko mahatv dene vale v ved ka jyada nam lene vale jab in grantho ka prachar nahi karenge , aur jyada samajhdar hone ka dava bhi karenge ! tab jaisa karm karenge , vaisa hi to fal prapt hone ki hi ummeed karenge 1 ved ke anuyayi to apne dhan ka upyog apas ki ladai me hi kharch kar rahe hai 1 jara “atm nirikshan ” bhi kijiye aur dekiye kitne logon ke pas ved uplabdh hai ? “jinhe sansar me sansar ka upkar karna tha , unhe dekhiye samajo ko mitane ke liye taiyar baithe hai ” agar satyarth parkash ka prachar kai karod ki sankhya me hota , samajik buraiyo ko dur karne ka prayatn hota to muslim bhi apne ghar ki or lautne ki koshish bhi karte ! chaliye purani baton ko chodiye agar aj se bhi satyarth parkash ka dhuna dhaar prchar v prsar kiya jaye unke ankul acharan karne vale kai karod ho to is desh ki vyvstha me badlav bhi kafi laya ja sakta hai ! bas koishi jarur karni hogi !

      • @raj.hyd
        Raj aapki bat 100% satya hai, me bhi ab Ved ka parchar karne me lag gaya hun aur ye website bhi vedic mission me ek mill ka pathar sabit hogi & ye wesbite ham sabhi ke liye bhi marg darshan ki tarah hai. Iss desh me lakho karodo rupeye ramayan aur bhagwat katha aadi me kharch hote hai agar ham itne paise vedo ka parchar karne me lagaate to aaj bharat ki dusri tasvir hoti. Lekin aab bhi samay hai ham sabhi ko agar iss desh bachana hai to vedo ke parchar me ji jan se jut jaye.

    • AAp jo keh rahe hai, shayad isse aapke ander se musalmano se jalne ki boo aa rahi hai, mai yeh aapka dil dukhane ki ya aapko galat kehne ke liye nahi keh rah hoo, ek baat bataye kya aapke bhagwan krishna bachpan se kitne achche the or kitni ladkiyon ke sath kitni raasleelayen ki hongi unhone mahabharat jesi ek kahani bhi rachi kya wo kerna sahi tha jo unhone karwaya, or aise hi bahut se bhagwan hai jinhe aap “Bhagwan” kehte hai jese “indra” bhi hai, to aap jara inke baare mein pura pehle gyan lelen, fir kisi ke uper aisi ungli uthayen to hi theek hoga,
      ……………………..muaf kijiyega agar meri kisi baat per aapko bura laga ho,
      but pehle soche kehne se pehle……..

      • देखिए! आपको किसी ने गलत सूचना दे कर रखी है। हिन्दू तो स्वयं ही कहते है कि उनके पुराण आज उतने प्रामाणिक नही जितने 40,000 वर्ष पूर्व थे। किंतु मुहम्मद साहब के बारे में जितने भी अपशब्द होते है – वह सब सही हादिस के कारण है। मैं तो मानने को तैयार हु कि हादिस मुहम्मद साहब को अकारण बदनाम करने के लिए लिखे गए है लेकिन मुसलमान ही नही मानता। अब बेचारे हिन्दू भी क्या करे – मुसलमान तो वही करते है जो सही हादिस में लिखा है – उसके लिए क़ुरान का भी अपमान चलेगा। केवल एक बार youtube पर 19 questions to muslim scholars डालकर समस्त 21 चलचित्र देखे – मेरी बात में कितना दम है वह आपको वही दिख जाएगा। fromdtothelight ऐसा channel का नाम है, यदि आवश्यकता पड़े तो सारे चलचित्र देखे। इस्लाम क्या था और इस्लाम क्या है – वह पता चल जाएगा।

        आवश्यकता है तो यह पता करने की कि सच्चा मुसलमान कौन है – वह कोई अरबी लुटेरा नही बल्कि भारत के महान संत गुरु नानक ने समझाया है। श्री गुरु ग्रंथ साहिब पृष्ठ 141 केवल इस्लाम का ही गुणगान करता है। उन्होने कहा है कि दया की मस्जिद में जाओ, विश्वास का मुसल्ला रखो, ईमानदारी तेरी क़ुरान हो, नम्रता रूपी ख़तना करो, रहमत का रोज़ा रखो, शांति को काबा बना, शरणागति को तसवीह बना और सत्य को ईमाम रख। ऐसा मुसलमान बनो। दूसरे के माल से अपनी तिजोरी भरना अर्थात सुअर को खाना है। 5 नमाज़ का विज्ञान यह है – पहली नमाज़ अर्थात सत्यप्रियता, दूसरी ईमानदारी, तीसरी दान पुण्य, चौथी नेक व्यवहार, पाँचवी है अल्लाह की बन्दगी। जो झूठा है वह तो असत्य में ही जाएगा। मुसलमान बनना कठिन है और केवल सच्चा मुसलमान ही मुसलमान है। पहले तो नबी के सन्देश की मिठास लाओ, फिर अपने अहंकार को नष्ट करो, मुहम्मद के सच्चे मुसलमान बन्दे, यदि सम्भव हो तो जीवन – मृत्यू के मोह को दूर करे, अल्लाह की शरणागति से स्वार्थ का नाश करो। जब ऐसा व्यक्ति सब प्राणियो पर दया करे तब वह मुसलमान कहलाएगा। सच्चे मुसलमान की ऐसी सुन्दर परिभाषा कोई अरबी विद्वान नही दे पाया। यदि इस कसौटी को आधार बनाया जाए तो 125 कोटी मुसलमानी आबादी में से केवल 1.456% ही मुसलमान कहलाने योग्य है – शेष सभी काफ़िर है।

        देख तेरे संसार की हालत क्या हो गई भगवान! इनसान = शैतान!

      • Ashraf bhai, jalan to ho rahi kyunki hame aapki tarah izzat lutne ki ijazat jo nahi mili hai na. Krishna ji jo kiya so kiya kam se kam kisi ke sath zabardasti nahi. Aur rahi baat indra ve anya devo ki, jo jisne jaisa kiya waisa bhoga. Lekin aapke toh bare maje hain. Izzat luto, qatl karo, maal luto, bas allah ka naam lo aur sabhi gunaah pal mein maaf. Sahi mein, jalan toh ho rahi hai bhai.

  8. Brother Shabir, you are again roaming in the darkness… Many times I have proved that the sorces from where you have copied the above texts is not a hindu scholar. They are there just to fool innocent and unaware people like you.

    Brother I say to open your eyes and see the facts around. Read my comment why there are so many worshipable characters in Hinduism. See brother those who worship the devatas alone are considered as ignorant.

    I can answer all your posts here. But I don’t understand what is your problem. What is your doubt ?? Ask a specific question, I will answer you. If I can not answer you, I will leave Vedas, but you have to promise, If I will give you answer, you will leave Islam.

    Brother, neither you know Sanskrit, nor you know about Vedas well nor you are aware of Islam. Being you are a muslim, you are just tryng to go to some petro-dollar arabic terrorists propogated sites, copy some hatred quotes which are not at all in accordance with the Vedas, paste here just to prove that you are superior.

    But we for your silly acts, some times I feel pity on you, because you are ignorant of every thing, some times I feel angry on you, how many times will you need to understand ?

    The mothers and sisters of your grand parents were raped, thousands were killed, pillars of their heads were made, then your grand fathers accepted Islam. But no body preached Vedas. Vedas were restricted only for those who were tallented to acquire knowledge. Only the summary of Vedas were available for all, Vedas were preserved for the purpose of research. Still majority of people follow Vedas.

    I can prove brother that Vedic Religion is followed every where around the Glove. Go to akhilapadhi.weebly.com, go to “My Religious View” page, read how Sanatan Philosophy is followed around the world.

    Open your eyes brother….. accept the truth… Remove your ego…..

    I will answer all your question, but put a question first. If the answer to that question will contain any hatred words for any human or…

  9. @ Shabeer: Did you wake up from some dream and are suddenly seeing the world differently. All your questions are absolutely redundant and I think you need to look up archives of Agniveer for all this. But here is something for starters…

    Theisms in Vedas: Vedas are beyond theisms. Vedas espouse a bi-directional premise where many manifestations of an integrated singular entity is portrayed and the multiple manifestations are integrated back to a single integrated entity. So who cares about West Asian theisms? Only those draped in Abrahamic conditioning do…

    Incarnation: Given you have used Bhagavad Gita for your discussion point, did you miss reading this in BG??

    Bhagavad Gita 9:11: FOOLS DERIDE ME IN MY HUMAN FORM, UNABLE TO COMPREHEND MY SUPREME NATURE AS THE ULTIMATE CONTROLLER OF ALL ENTITIES.

    So now, before raising any further questions, please check the archives in agniveer.com …

  10. ——————————————————————————————————————
    Primitive Aryans never follow the polyithsm, they pary one god ‘ohm’,but period of adarva veda aryans fall into Polytheism, worship to several gods, devan and devis.(encyclopedia vol:2 page-281)

    We can saw from geetha that it try to combined all god to one

    ” yea panya devatha baktha yejentha sredha yanitha the pi mameva kountheya yejantha vidi porvikam “(bagavath geetha9:23)

    krishna says ” hey son of kundi,you understand that worship of devies not belongs devies, actually they worship to me ”

    Similar verses like above (bagavath geetha 9:17, bagavath geetha 7:6, bagavath geetha 9:18)

    But we can saw verses from same bagavath geetha contradiction to above verses.

    ” Iandrathi devavritha devan prithyan yanthi pithrevritha buthani yanthi bu thejo yanthi mathyajinopimam “(bagavath geetha 9:25)

    krishna says ” if they being Fast for Indradi devan it belongs to Indradi devan,they worship to prithredeva it belongs to prithredeva, they worship to me it belong to me ”

    Similar verses like above (bagavath geetha 7:21,22)

    Some years ago there are different orgnisation was here for promoting once of god, but today none of them existing.

    Where is brahmasamaj by rajaram mohan ray?
    Where is prarthana samaj by Ranade?
    Where is bhakthi prasthanam by ramanadan and kabeer?
    For more where is the essence of one god and moral things from bakthi prasthanam by dhayanada saraswathi?

    Miracle thing was the entire Hindu group highly supports the ‘adhyoida darsanam’ from sree sangarajyarya.high celebrating his birthday, mass follower; they exaggerate him and Flatter him, even atheist. Because he built the basement of polytheism.

    In India today only existing some terror,fundamental and self nationalism from bakthi prasthanam for dhayanada saraswathi, golwakirsm, baltakrism,etc.all the positive, moral and democratic theories are died here. Today who are the authority of Hindu?…

  11. ——————————————————————————————————————
    i think there are two group of scholar is there in the period of Veda

    group1:…………………………………………………..

    They are the authority of the above verses, they know the truth, they hide the truth from people, either they beware the people action against them or they got some physical earning, they try to deviate the people from once of god.

    group2:………………………………………………………………………………

    They believe orginal essence of Veda, they try to make the people to original essence of Veda. they make the verses as follow

    ” yo devanam thamada yeka yeva “(Rigveda 8:3:3)
    ” We know the god in different names of devan, but he is one ”

    Unfortunately group1 suppressed the gorup2,today Hindu believe 33 cores of god.
    Dr. Radhakrishnan criticizes the group1.
    (Dr. Radhakrishnan: Indian Philosophy Vol I Page 145.)

    Kabir says ” we never worship the people they are born and died here(earth),i never believe Raman was the incarnations of god “(Dr. Thara Chand: Influence of Islam on Indian Culture, Page 163.)

    Human can’t Incarnation of god, they are just true believer than normal people. The character of Ramakrishna was created the imagination of human being. If we believe they are incarnation of god, we have to face lot of contradiction about that belief(Harijan:Mahatma Gandhi 22-6-1947)

    ” Mahabharata never been a authorized things, it never include a single verses as a divine, I never believe Krishna a incarnation of god, none can have a clear evidence as its divinity and no one can prove it was a authorized one “(Young India Oct 1, 1925-Quoted from The Encyclopedia of Gandhi an Thoughts, Page 190.)
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  12. According Hindu believe koormam, fish, narasimha and varaharam are created before the human. But from Veda we can saw that during their period human existed……………….

    Eg)Vishnu taking fish Incarnation when King of asura kidnap the Veda.
    King Sathyvridha saw the Incarnation of fish when he saw the lake. (Sree maha bagavadham (ashtamaskantham 24:9 to 13)………………………

    According to sree maha Devi bagvadham first section we saw that first 26 Incarnation, 4 of them are human (sanakan, sanandan, sanathan and sanal Kumar)…………………..

    Swami Vivekananda says “Incarnation of human is never happened. According to Veda it may be a prophet or leader of the society” (San Francisco speech 8:4:1990)…………..

    We can never saw the Incarnation of human from the Veda, Upanishath and bagvath geetha…………………………………..

  13. According Hindu believe koormam, fish, narasimha and varaharam are created before the human. But from Veda we can saw that during their period human existed.

    Eg)Vishnu taking fish Incarnation when King of asura kidnap the Veda.
    King Sathyvridha saw the Incarnation of fish when he saw the lake. (Sree maha bagavadham (ashtamaskantham 24:9 to 13)

    According to sree maha Devi bagvadham first section we saw that first 26 Incarnation, 4 of them are human (sanakan, sanandan, sanathan and sanal Kumar)

    Swami Vivekananda says “Incarnation of human is never happened. According to Veda it may be a prophet or leader of the society” (San Francisco speech 8:4:1990)

    We can never saw the Incarnation of human from the Veda, Upanishath and bagvath geetha.

  14. HOW CAN HINDUISM FALL INTO POLYTHEISM?

    These are the verses from veda suport polytheism,these verses contradiction to above verses.it make different period for believer deviation from once of god

    ” akam sadhypra bahuda vadandhi ” (Rigveda 2:3:6)
    ” a sholor declare god Essence in different way ”

    ” akam santham bahudha kalpayanthi “(Rigveda 8:6:6)
    ” a Intelligent understand that essence of god in different way ”
    i don’t know what are the logic behind it?, why they declare essence of god in single form? what are the problem behind it?

    ” brahmi vedam viswam samastham edam jagath “(each and every maters(living and non living) in our are god)(adhoidham:sree shanracharya)

    ” jivo brahmiva napara “(all the livings are god)(adhoidham:sree shanracharya)

    ” avatharaha sangya hare sathya nidherdija “(sree mahadevi bagavatham 1:3)

    If we believe the above verses, we must answer the following questions.
    Then what the purpose we are created?, what are the purpose of Incarnation? what are the diffrence between from fish to kalki(Incarnation of god) from us?.

    ” X was god and Y was Incarnation of X, at the same time Y are ideal people for X ”

    What a foolish believes it was?

      • @ Shabeer
        Yes you are right, According to Veda, God does not need any assistance of incarnation or prophet to maintain his creation. No one worship 33 crore Devata, they dont know even name of 33, forget about the worship, this is only miscopcetipn spread by fanatics Muslim. I agree Some Hindu are as ignorant as Muslim who worship graves. It only due ignorance that some Hindu/Muslim think God require assistance of prophet/incarnation. We need to spread Vedic knowledge in society to eradicate this misconception. Please join hand with Agniveer in this noble cause. & Vedic God is very kind & merciful, if the person like you & me could not understand God in our life he provides us second chance to understand God.
        Read this to know about 33 concept
        http://agniveer.com/2708/vedic-god/

  15. shabeer brother, now open your eyes, and see… Man landed on moon, there was nt any Allah’s thrown.. See man has gone far from this galaxy, but there is nt any 7 layers. Earth is moving around the sun by the force of sun, its not hold by a cow with thousand horns, sun is a star, it signs always, its contsant in our solar system, we have days and night because of earth’s rotation. Sun does nt hide under mud which is under the thrown of Allah which is on moon.

    Open your eyes brother and see, sun and moon are not revolving in the same path.

    Day overlaps night and night overlaps day because of spherical face of earth.

    Open your eyes brother and see, many great people born and died but they were not muslims. All machines that you use are not because of islam nor they are invented by muslims, brother again see, without any resources and inspite of all natuaral problems japaneese are better than arab. Japaneese are not muslims.

    Open up and see, many people left islam and today they are happy. Goto the site apostates of islam, and see many people of arab and pakistan left islam.

    Leave the cult brother, and see the light.

  16. @Akhila
    very beautiful and polite way of explaining to shaber.

    i also agree with bro vajra regarding articles on logical skills. that will surely help the like of shabber.

  17. @ Shabeer : Now you accepted that you dont have much knowledge about Sanskrit. You quted many Slokas from Vedas proving God is the one and only one. Every one on this site accepted your statement that God is the one and there is no second. You have doubt why Hindus pray so many Gods, why there are so many temples ?? Am I right ???

    Now read why there are so many worship-able characters…. Please the words used by me, “Worshipable Character” not “God”. Because God is the one and there is no second…..

    From Srimad Bhagabat Geeta:-

    saha-yajnah prajah srstva
    purovaca prajapatih
    anena prasavisyadhvam
    esa vo ’stv ista-kama-dhuk

    “In the beginning of creation, the Lord of all creatures sent forth generations of men and devatas , along with sacrifices for Vishnu, and blessed them by saying, “Be thou happy by this yajna [sacrifice] because its performance will bestow upon you everything desirable for living happily and achieving liberation.””

    So the one and only God created human and other forces to make us happy. See the article link given by Truth Seeker about those forces, whom we say “Devata”. Mind it, Devatas are not God, because God is the one and there is no second.

    devan bhavayatanena
    te deva bhavayantu vah
    parasparam bhavayantah
    sreyah param avapsyatha

    “The devatas , being pleased by sacrifices, will also please you, and thus, by cooperation between men and devatas , prosperity will reign for all.”

    Thus, if you please the Devatas, they will give you what you need to live in this world happily. Thats why we have so many temples, where we go and try to praise the Devatas to grant us happiness. Some times we wish more health, some times wealth, some times love, etc. For these we go to temples,

    istan bhogan hi vo deva
    dasyante yajna-bhavitah
    tair dattan apradayaibhyo
    yo bhunkte stena eva sah

    “In charge of the various necessities of life, the devatas, being satisfied by the performance of yajna [sacrifice], will supply all necessities to you. But he who enjoys…

    • One thing more I would like to add we can say Devata even to grate scholars (Brahm Rishi, Yogeshwar, Grate Man) who enlighten the society by their deeds.That is why Brahman (Scholar of Veda)also called Devata many places in Sanskrit scripture.

    • but by pleasing devatas you can not attain salvation..

      So wishing for these matters is ignorance, those who are intelligent try to get kowledge, try to understand self, and by acquiring knowledge, one will attain salvation.

      So my dear brother, worshiping devatas, doing havans and sacrifice is not a sin, these are acts of ignorance.

      God, the almighty one has created devatas for our help..

      Dear shabeer, you dont have much knowledge about vedas, and islam. Vedas teach to get knowledge, islam teaches to be ignorant. Vedas teach to understand yourself, koran teaches to understand the koran. Vedas teach to explore new and new ways to reach God, koran teaches to follow.

      Veda says to argue and debate and prove the truth, koran teaches not to put a question.*

      dear friend, now say some thing, how can i know koran is true or not if i dont argue ! Just because some body said it. Ok, but what is the quality and qualification of that person ?
      He was an illetarate man, who was working under an women, but later removed all rights of women.

      Who told lie to his wife and had sex with a slave, then promised not to do these again, but did no keep his promise.

      Who married a 6 yr old girl and consumed her at the age of 9.

      Who raped an women in the same day he killed her husband, brother and entire tribe.

      How can i believe that man to bf a messenger of God ?
      How do you believe ?

      Indian muslims are realy loosers. Their grand parents accepted islam just to save them from the cruel arabs. But you are free today, no arabian can kill you here if you leave islam.

      Come to your own brother.. Come back.

      Pray to the one and only god with out condition of a direction or a human messenger. With out any condition of temples and havans.

      Pray him from core of your heart. There is no permanent hell fire, for all the sins you did in the past, The one with out a second will give you another chance to make them right.

      He is very kind on all his creation, he did not bind our eyes. You have done this,…

  18. @truth seeker
    i read it i never saw the worship of 33 cores of god…………………

    give me simple evidence from veda……………….

    i don’t know much about knowledge of sanscrit.i know some authorised english translation is there.

  19. Dear Shabeer…. That day I told you why there are so many worship-able characters in Hinduism.. You just could not understand those, because you are not a sanskrit scholar. Now read those verses you will understand. If you cant understand, then stop this copy paste act, and accept that you dont know any thing. And dont worry, I will teach you every thing..

    And one more thing, those who have built the temples, those who are the priests and those who go to the temples know vedas better than you. So show your face again only if you have any counter argument for those verses, or if you accept you are ignorant of every thing.

    Regarding animals and human concept. Man I know about animals and human better. I dont need classes from you atleast. I am quoting again what you have said. You said <<>> Prove it how ?? Dont show the verses of Quoran, prove by logic… Which principle of Islam do they follow ??

    Regarding the concept of Test…. Which test are you saying about ?? Perhaps you dont understand what is a test. In a test, every one is told earlier about the syllabus, every one given equal time to prepare, every one is given equal time duration for the exam, then his answers are verified and he is awarded marks or some award. But in the exam as said by Islam, we are not given the syllabus, we are not given equal time duration to prepare, we dont get equal time duration to face the exam, and Allah dont even see our answer, because he has already given us marks, and awarded Hell.

    When will you understand this small thing…. the test said by islam is a kind of match fixing… He knows who will get what. Then why at all the test ?? Most of the fools say that a teacher can know how a student will do in the exam, but dear, the teacher assumes what the student will do, he knows the student may fail, but dont decide in advance who will fail.. Its assumption dude not decision. But Allah has already decided.. He is not assuming.

  20. @vajra
    how can it answer my questions?
    its your view about Islam,it it?
    http://agniveer.com/2668/good-muslims/#comment-13200

    my questions is Veda supporting one god 30-35 verses from Veda and upanishid i proved it.

    but today 99% of Hindu pray 33 cores of god .where is the evidence from Veda for 33 core god?

    @akhila
    ” animal engege in sexual relation with every one including mothers and sisters ”

    ” Hijab… Say my friends, how the Muslim animals follow hijab, how the observe Parda for women ???? There are female animals too, do they come with parda before male animals ?? ”

    you don’t know the basic principle of islam.

    god create all things for human being,here we human only have soul,god create human for testing who is superior(moral,trustfull,ideal)?

    the islmic rules for only human(not animal),god create them for us.god never tested them.

    how many crual animal is there.you ever herd 1st,2nd world war happened to them?

    a lion never killed it pray without a reson,any animal make atom bomb?,ak47?,chemical,biological weapon?,stealing?,

    at least any animal sex with their own sex(male-male,female-female)?

    but human did all these vulgarity.

    they sex with mother,sister,etc.that never problem with their world(god decided like that)

    can you here any animal died for sexual disorder like aids,like that…………..?
    truth is:
    way of living inscribed their genetic code(except human)

    but in case human not like that,we must follow the prophet,and veda for our better future(here and life after death)

    • Brother Shabeer

      You need to work really hard towards improving your analytical and logical skills, there is lot of scope for it.

      Show my previous responses to any of your friend who is better at these skills. Hope that will help.

      all the best

      @Agniveer

      I think we must have some articles purely dedicated to improving one’s logical abilities which are not completely developed for many of our friends due to Madarsa education from childhood. Lets help them explore the new world from intellectual standpoint.

  21. @vajra
    how can it answer my questions?
    its your view about Islam,it it?
    http://agniveer.com/2668/good-muslims/#comment-13200

    my questions is Veda supporting one god 30-35 verses from Veda and upanishid i proved it.

    but today 99% of Hindu pray 33 cores of god .where is the evidence from Veda for 33 core god?

    @akhila
    ” animal engege in sexual relation with every one including mothers and sisters ”

    ” Hijab… Say my friends, how the Muslim animals follow hijab, how the observe Parda for women ???? There are female animals too, do they come with parda before male animals ?? ”

    you don’t know the basic principle of islam.

    god create all things for human being,here we human only have soul,god create human for testing who is superior(moral,trustfull,ideal)?

    the islmic rules for only human(not animal),god create them for us.god never tested them.

    how many crual animal is there.you ever herd 1st,2nd world war happened to them?

    a lion never killed it pray without a reson,any animal make atom bomb?,ak47?,chemical,biological weapon?,stealing?,

    at least any animal sex with their own sex(male-male,female-female)?

    but human did all these vulgarity.

    they sex with mother,sister,etc.that never problem with their world(god decided like that)

    can you here any animal died for sexual disorder like aids,like that…………..?
    truth is:
    way of living inscribed their genetic code(except human)

    but in case human not like that,we must follow the prophet,and veda for our better future(here and life after death)

  22. Dear Shabir H:

    Again you came out of context.. You said all living and non-living things follow islam except Human. I just pointed out the differences between Human and Animal…. Animals are cruel (of course not all… Those who are not cruel are considered Good by Vedas and say to protect them), animal engege in sexual relation with every one including mothers and sisters (All world says no to such a kind of relation except Islam), Because all follow islam, Islam says to human muslims to eat other muslims, and those human who dont follow islam should be killed.

    But dear, instead of looking at the point where I tried to prove Islam and Law of animals are the same, you pointed the very nature of life…. You started commenting on Science and Veda.

    Dear, I can prove that Islam is not followed by all except human too… I ll give only one prove, Hijab… Say my friends, how the Muslim animals follow hijab, how the observe Parda for women ???? There are female animals too, do they come with parda before male animals ??

    I feel pity on you brother, you just cant come out of the ignorance of your mind and dont think logically. Veda says only to accept truth. And truth can be known only with acquiring knowledge. Knowledge is some thing which can stand beyond time. If a statement cant stand the questions of logics, its not truth.

  23. @akhila

    god create all the things in our universe,he allow to human ate meat.i never syas animal have without brain(without soul).how can you says that iam human that i never used living thing(is it only meat)

    can you syas all things that you eten are non-living?

    rice,barli,vegitable these things are non- living before you eaten?

    within a second our internal organ killed lacks of micro organism

    how can live you a killer?

    you imaging your one day walking,how many micro organism killed?

    if we things an non killer human,the only choice just suicide………………is it?

  24. @ Shabeer : Yes friend, at last you said one right thing. <<>>>
    Because Islam is not the religion of Human. We are human my friend, not animals. Have you ever asked why Human dont follow Islam ? The answer is human has brain, and animals dont have brain. Those who use brain are human. And those who don’t use brain are animals, they can kill others, eat others, will have sex with every one including mother and sister, animals if tamed, follow a particular master, they think the master is the only god, they can not think beyond their master. They became his slave.

    All animals follow islam, thats why islam says to eat all animals.. If human too accept islam, islam will allow to eat them too.

    Thank God I am human, and I dont follow Islam.

    • well said akhila,,we are human beings and have brains to utilize,to explore the world and universe,only animals lacks the utilization of brains,when tamed they follow there master,,like these muslims are following,,they are not allowed to ask question,i am working in afghanistan,,here u tell any muslim this is wrong he will say i am a muslim and i know quran,,thats talibans they dont listen to good muslim,,thats why they are fighting within eachother,,my request to muslims please use your brain and respect your fellow human beings

  25. Why God require help of prophet to deliver his message & why he himself can not give knowledge in one’s heart directly as Vedik God do.?

    Prophets are men, chosen by God at various stages and under varying circumstances of history, to lead men from darkness to light. The Qur’an repeatedly states the fact that prophets with the same message were sent to each and every community. The process of revelation continued unabated, sometimes in succession, at other times in broken sequences until the period in history, when the termination of Divine revelation and messengership, with the Qur’an and Prophet Mohammed (Peace be upon him) became a significant milestone in the history of mankind. It is true that the lives and mission of many a prophet has been made obscure and distorted by legends that grew around them or by people with vested interests, who used the names of these prophets to exploit men and mislead them from the right faith. No prophet of God has claimed himself to be divine. They were all mortals who lived and passed away from this earth after completing their mission of conveying the basic message to mankind, which was a call for the recognition and affirmation of God’s existence, uniqueness and Lordship over all creation. It is an integral part of Islamic faith to believe in all the prophets of God.

    my friend first you understand that except human being all living and non living things in this universe are Muslim(that mean they follow the gods rule).

    god give us the soul(that the basic difference between human and other things),here create all things for human being,god decide to human must follow the path of god.

    so he give us Veda and prophet(prophet human being to how to practicable the god Veda)

    all the prophet are human.

  26. Why Allah teaching is not perfect applicable in all times, period,ages?
    Divinity

    Given below is a list of some of the evidences in support of the Divine nature of the Qur’an:

    1. It , itself, declares that it is a Divine Scripture

    2. It remains unchanged up to the Last Day.

    3. The path of right conduct that it prescribes is faultless.

    4. It is practicable.

    5. The history that it teaches is unadulterated and honest.

    6. Its literature is incomparable.

    7. The prophecies made in it can be seen to have come true.

    8. The references in it to the varied phenomena of nature, as representing the signs of God, are free of controversies.

    9. There is no reference, whatsoever, of an unscientific nature in it.

    10. It is free of all contradictions.

    11. None has been able to face the challenge it poses when it calls forth all, and any, to produce an equivalent of at least one of its chapters.

    12. The person who was appointed with it in the world was himself of a truthful and selfless nature.

  27. Why God send different book by doing amendments in the the previous one?

    The Qur’anic view contends that the primary purpose of revealed scripture is to unite mankind. Look at what the Holy Qur’an has to say: ‘Mankind was one single nation. And Allah sent Messengers with glad tidings and warnings; and with them He sent the Book in truth, to judge between people in matters wherein they differed.’ (2:213)

    It becomes evident from this that religious scriptures were revealed in order that a divine ruling, of a final nature, may be made in the matters in which mankind differed. Thus, the Qur’an declares that it, too, was revealed so that mankind may be freed of the dissensions that were rife amongst themselves. ‘And We sent down the Book to thee so that That thou shouldst make clear to them those things in which they differ, and that it should be a guide and a mercy to those who believe.’ (16:64)

    In order that the fate of the people of the book, who had boasted of their own high status, by which they were ultimately led to dissension and anarchy, not fall upon its believers, the Qur’an exhorts them to stick fast to the last of the scriptures as well as to its practical manifestation as enshrined in the life and conduct of the prophet. “And hold fast, All together, by the Rope which Allah (stretches out for you), and be not divided among yourselves.” (3:103) The commentators are unanimous in their opinion that the ‘rope of Allah’ mentioned here indicates the Qur’an.

    In short, therefore, the first and foremost duty of the Scripture is to lead people unto the truth and to eliminate, thereby, all dissension and anarchy.

    The Qur’an recognizes all the scriptures that had been revealed before its own time. However, the Qur’an does not, in an explicit fashion, state the total number of all such revealed scriptures. There is only the mention of the names of four other scriptures in the Qur’an. These include the Taurat which was revealed to the prophet Moosa (a), the Zaboor which was revealed to the prophet Dawood (a) the Injeel which was revealed to the prophet Isa (a) and the Qur’an itself which was revealed to the prophet Muhammad (pbuh). The Qur’an further highlights the fact that besides these four scriptures, other edicts, too, were revealed by the Lord Creator.

    “Say : We believe in Allah and what is revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the tribes, and what was entrusted to Moses and Jesus and the prophets from their Lord.” (3:136)

    “And this is in the Books of the earliest (Revelations), The Books of Abraham and Moses.” (87:18,19)

    The Qur’an attests the truth of all the previous scriptures. “It is He Who sent down to thee (step by step), in truth, the Book, confirming what went before it; and He sent down the Torah (Of Moses) and the Gospel (Of Jesus).” (3:3)

    It is the compulsory duty of the Muslim to believe in all the scriptures that were revealed by Allah. Indeed, the Qur’an views the disbelief in the Divine nature of any of the previous scriptures as a gross perversion.

    “O ye who believe! Believe in Allah and His Messenger, and the scripture which He hath sent to His Messenger and the Scripture which He sent to those before (him). Any who denieth Allah, His angels, His Books, His Messengers, and the Day of Judgment, hath gone far, far astray.” (4:136)

    • Unity
      _____The Qur’anic view contends that the primary purpose of revealed scripture is to unite mankind_______
      पाकिस्तान में बंटे पोस्टर, कहा अहमदिया मुस्लिमों की हत्या करो
      इस्लामाबाद. पाकिस्तान के पंजाब प्रांत में बड़ी संख्या में पंपलेट बांटे जा रहे हैं, जिसमें मुस्लिम धर्म के ही एक संप्रदाय अहमदिया मुस्लिमों की हत्या करने को कहा गया है। अहमदिया संप्रदाय के लोगों की हत्या को पोस्टरों में जेहाद बताया गया है और कहा गया है कि यह सवाब का काम है। इससे इलाके में तनाव व्याप्त है। पोस्टरों में कहा गया है कि अहमदिया संप्रदाय के लोग वाजिब-उल-कत्ल, याने हत्या करने के योग्य हैं। पोस्टरों में अहमदिया संप्रदाय के लोगों के नाम और पते ठिकाने भी दिए गए हैं।

      पाकिस्तान में हिंदू, ईसाई और सिख अल्पसंख्यकों के तो अधिकारों का हनन तो आम है, लेकिन वहां मुस्लिम भी सुरक्षित नहीं हैं। फैसलाबाद में बांटे गए पोस्टरों में अहमदिया संप्रदाय के प्रतिष्ठित उद्योगपतियों, डॉक्टरों और दूसरे प्रतिष्ठित लोगों का विवरण दिया गया है। इनमें सबसे उपर क्लाथ हाउस का नाम है, जहां रहने वाले तीन लोगों को पिछले साल मौत के घाट उतार दिया गया था।

      ये पंपलेट ऑल इंडिया स्टूडेंट्स खत्म-ए-नुबुवात फेडरेशन बांट रहा है। इन्हें पूरे शहर में चिपका दिया गया है।

      अहमदिया संप्रदाय के संगठन उमूर-ए-अजमा ने इसकी कड़ी निंदा की है और कहा है कि यह कुछ कट्टरपंथी और उन्मादी लोगों का काम है और उन्हें राज्य सरकार का पूरा संरक्षण मिला हुआ है। संगठन के सचिव महमूद अहमद ने कहा कि उन्होंने कई बार राज्य सरकार को इस बारे में चेतावनी दी है लेकिन कोई कार्रवाई नहीं की गई।
      http://www.bhaskar.com/article/INT-pakistan-posters-2173707.html

      • @Shabeer
        __________And Allah sent Messengers with glad tidings and warnings; and with them He sent the Book in truth_________
        What is criteria choosing the messenger?

  28. @shabeer (Please do not hurry in posting comments read attentively)
    Why do you think God teaching is not Eternal & immortal like God? Why Allah teaching is not perfect applicable in all times, period,ages? Why God send different book by doing amendments in the the previous one? Why God require help of prophet to deliver his message & why he himself can not give knowledge in one’s heart directly as Vedik God do.
    Why Allah denied all noble person like Mahatama Gandhi, Socrat, Subhas Chander Bos, Dalai Lama, Newton, Ainstine to enter in Kaba while terrorist, criminal, rapist like Afjal, Osama, Kasa can go into Kaba.Why allah force the people for incest? Why he can not create many pairs of men& women in the inception of universe like vedic God do. Why allah obsessed with a particulars place like kaba if he lives everywhere equally without even a point difference. Why Allah obsessed with the desire of kissing the black stone? Allah talk a lot in Kuran about the day of Kayamat but he forgot most important things mentioning of “date of Kayamat”. Why Allah is so cruel by sanctioning sex with slave girl is moral act.Why allah is so cruel for non-believer, If one could not understand God in one life than why he does not provide one’s second chance to realise the God as Vedic God do. Even our Government is less cruel than Allah, I got fail in 10th but Government provide me second chance to clear the test but Allah is cruel there is no second birth only eternal or indefinite hell for non-believer for deed committed in definite period. Why Allah applied this partiality in his judgement?
    Brother start to think rationally, logically . Ask these question to yourself before wandering to different websites. & put your question here if you have doubt in anything do not copy paste. Do not act like a puppet of fanatics, God have given you wisdom & start to think everything logically, reject all the rituals & superstitions & unnatural events to realise the Truth=God=Om=Allah.

  29. @Roger – u r ri8 brother… And i read in full his comments supporting islam.. Its too a copy paste activity.. I m sure, this man knows nothing.. He is very angry, coz the whole world is saying islam is bad. Unfortunately he is born in a muslim family and cant come out of islam world, just 4 his ego..

    @shabeer – u hv quoted many quotes frm vedas saying islam is acording to veda. You are holding that vedas are good.. Now dear, just take one more step, and see the as said in koran and hadis. And think logicaly, if a hindu would hv been done the same against the muslims treating them non belivers, could you praise vedas !!

    If today i start doing word by word as said in koran, by just replacing the word non believers with muslims, can i justify the killing of a whole tribe ! Can i justify raping an women the same day i kill her husband ? Can i justify marrying a 6 yr old gal at the age of 50 !

    I dnt need answer, i just wanted to raise questions in your mind. U can find many defences from internet, may be one from islamhinduism. Those are written accepting koran as god’ words. But i wanted to raise this question in your mind to let you come out of evil.

  30. @ shabeer – 1st of all wat i say you is dnt behave as if only you have read vedas and understand vedas. Those who has constructed huge temples and those priests who started worship there are too very much aware of vedas and they do what is permissable under veda.

    On another forum i have mentioned some texts answering the question why there are so many worshipable characters, why temple are important. But you perhaps could nt understand those..

    Again vedas are nt small texts nor a law books. So only one verse could nt be the summary. Read vedas in full.. Then give comments. Actualy answering fools like you from whom i cant learn any thing, makes me bored.

    Secondly, saying good things to us regarding quran wont change the history. The entire history of islam is nt at al impresive. They exploited and killed crose of people around the globe..

    From your attitude one thing is clear that, you hv taken d decision 1st, now searching proofs to prove urself right. But our attitude is to see the proofs and then reach at a destination.

    • @ Akhila
      “Actualy answering fools like you from whom i cant learn any thing”
      Exactly, he’s just a troller. Ignore him. he will keep posting his crap irrespective of being refuted so many times. He is not here to found out the truth. See, how he dumped your question regarding translation of some mantras.

  31. @ vajra replay
    you are the first person i know islam worship ideloatary

    Tawheed (The oneness of Allah) Islamic Monotheism

    Tawheed is the most important Islamic belief. It implies that everything in existence originates from the one and only Creator, who is also the Sustainer and the sole Source of Guidance. This belief should govern all aspects of human life. Recognition of this fundamental truth results in a unified view of existence which rejects any divisions of life into religious and secular. Allah is sole source of Power and Authority, therefore entitled to worship and obedience from mankind. There is no scope for any partnership with the Creator. Tawhid tells man that Allah is not born, nor is anyone born of Him. He has no son or daughter. Human beings are His subjects.

    Linguistically Tawheed means: “To make something one, or to assert the oneness of something.” [Lisaan ul-‘Arab (3/450) of Ibn Mandhoor and also al-Hujjah fee Bayaanil-Mahajjah (1/305) of Abul-Qaasim al-Asbahaanee] However, what we are concerned with here is the Sharee’ah or technical meaning of Tawheed, which is: “To single out Almighty God alone for worship.” [Ad-Dururus-Sunniyyah (1/48) of Shaykh ‘Abdur- Rahmaan ibn Hasan]

    Literally Tawheed means “unification” (making something one) or “asserting oneness”, and it comes from the Arabic verb (wahhada) which itself means to unite, unify or consolidate. However, when the term Tawheed is used in reference to Allaah (i.e. Tawheedullaah), it means the realizing and maintaining of Allaah’s unity in all of man’s actions which directly or indirectly relate to Him. It is the belief that Allaah is One, without partner in His dominion and His actions (Ruboobeeyah), One without similitude in His essence and attributes (Asmaa wa Sifaat), and One without rival in His divinity and in worship (Ulooheeyah ‘Ebaadah). These three aspects form the basis for the categories into which the science of Tawheed has been traditionally divided. The three overlap and are inseparable to such a degree that whoever omits any one aspect has failed to complete the requirements of Tawheed. The omission of any of the above mentioned aspects of Tawheed is referred to as “Shirk” (lit. sharing); the association of partners with Allaah, which, in Islamic terms, is in fact idolatry.

    Shaykh Al-Bayjowree – may God have mercy on him – said: “It is to single-out al-Ma’bood (the One to be worshipped – i.e. Almighty God) with worship, along with belief and affirmation in the oneness and uniqueness of His Dhaat (Essence), Sifaat (Attributes) and Actions.” [Jawharah at-Tawheed (p. 10)]

    Shaykh al-Ghunaymaan – may God protect him – said: “It is to single Him out with worship, with love, lowliness and submissiveness to Him, by complying with His commands and submitting to them. [Sharh Kitaabut-Tawheed min Saheehil-Bukaaree (1/38)]

    Shaykh ‘Abdul-Qaadir al-Jeelaanee – may God protect him – said: “So it is upon you to fear God – the Mighty and Majestic – and not to fear anyone else except Him. Turn to God – the Mighty and Majestic – for your every need, and rely upon Him alone – the Most High – seeking that which you need from Him alone. Do not rely upon anyone other than Almighty God. And Tawheed – all is contained in Tawheed.” [Futoohul-Ghayb (p.176).]

    Ibn Abil-‘Izz – may God be pleased with him – said: “Knowledge of Usool-ud-Deen (the fundamentals of the religion) is the most noble branch of knowledge, since the excellence of a certain type of knowledge depends upon what it is concerned with, and this is the greater Fiqh (understanding) , which is why lmaam Abu Haneefah (died 150AH) – may God be pleased with him – called that which he compiled concerning Usool-ud-Deen: “al-Fiqhul- Akbar” (The Greatest Fiqh). The need of the servants for this knowledge is greater than every other need; and it is the most necessary of all things for them, since there is no life for the hearts, nor any delight, nor any tranquility, except through knowing their Lord, the One to be worshipped, their Creator – with His Names, His Attributes and His Actions, and that He – along with all that – is more beloved to the person than anything else. So man’s striving is with regards to everything that will draw him nearer to God, to the exclusion of the creation.

    And Tawheed – with the Salaf and the Scholars of Ahlus-Sunnah wal-Jamaa’ah has three divisions. ‘Allaamah as-Safaareenee – may God’s mercy be upon him – said: “Know that Tawheed has three divisions: Tawheed ar-Ruboobiyyah (the Oneness of God in His Lordship), Tawheed al- Uloohiyyah (to single-out Almighty God alone for worship) and Tawheed al-Asmaa was-Sifaat (the uniqueness of God’s Names and Attributes).” [Lawaami’ al-Anwaarul-Bahiyyah (1/128) of as-Safaareenee]

    “So Tawheed ar-Ruboobiyyah implies: A firm and definite belief that Almighty God alone is the Creator, the Master and Owner, and the Command is for none but Him.”

    “And Tawheed al-Uloohiyyah is to single-out God alone for all worship and not to worship anything along with Him, whether it be an angel, a Messenger, a prophet, a pious person, a tree, a stone, the sun, the moon, or other than these.”

    “And Tawheed al-Asmaa was-Sifaat is the uniqueness of Almighty God – the Most High – with regards to His Names and His Attributes, by affirming that which God has affirmed for Himself – whether in His Book (i.e. the Qur’an) or by the tongue of His Messenger – may the peace and blessings of God be upon him – without Tahreef (distorting the Names and Attributes), Ta’teel (denial of the Names and Attributes), Takyeef (saying how they are), or Tamztheel (making any resemblance with the creation).”

    The one who does not call to Tawheed and the correction of the Aqeedah, is like the one …..”who seeks to cure a body whose head has been cut off, since the place of the Aqeedah in the religion is like the head with regards to the body” [Sheikh Rabee’ ibn haadee al-madkhalee, in al-manhaj al-anbiyaa fee Dawaah ill-allaah]

    Jundub Ibn Abdullaah al-Bajaly said, “We learned Eemaan (faith) and then we learned the Quran and it increased our Eemaan.”

    http://www.allaahuakbar.net/aqeedah/tawheed/index.htm

  32. @dvise to varaja

    if you have any questions about islam,please kindly start new post insted of replay my post.what is my questions?

    hindu veda promote one god(verses i included)

    but today 99% of hindu pray to 33 cores of god.

    these are contradiction,iam expecting hindu clear it as soon……………………

    • Shabeer

      ————–if you have any questions about islam,————-

      I have none 🙂

      ————please kindly start new post insted of replay my post.what is my questions?———–

      What is the need? I proved that you are not in position to suggest or question Hindus for any of their beliefs. This is simple way of arguing.

      ————–hindu veda promote one god(verses i included)————

      Yes of course but Muslim Quran does not 🙁 You include Muhammad with Allah in all your prayers and associate him in belief with Allah. This is biggest Shirk one can ever do. You are not only idol (Kaba) worshipper but human worshipper too. Visit http://satyagni.com/4270/islam-tauheed/ to know more.

      ————-but today 99% of hindu pray to 33 cores of god.————

      Nobody can not even name 3300 gods forget about crores. But 100% Muslims surely worship Kaba idol and Muhammad as I showed above. Along with that 99% Muslims worship graves. So what is the conclusion?

      ————these are contradiction————–

      Many Hindus dont follow Vedas that is their choice just like all Muslims worship graves and Kaba idol. So Islam too has contradiction. What to do now? The only solution is that all Hindus and Muslims should follow Vedic Dharma leaving behind the irrational practices in the name of religion.

      ———-iam expecting hindu clear it as soon……………………————

      cleared 🙂

  33. @truth seeker & @akhila

    we Muslim are the actual authorized person of that Veda mentioned ideal person

    look the following verses from Veda, who was follow the rule Hindu or Muslim

    HINDUISM PROMOTES ONE GOD:
    1) According to Hindu Veda who created the universe?

    One god was the reason for all the creation. His existence
    was above the sky (hrid Veda 10:129:1,-2 – 0:129:6, 7)

    First of all hernias (one god) only existing here, he create
    all things in our universe. Universe follows his rules and regulation. he has
    many sense organ, he saw all the things alone (hrid Veda 10:121:1)
    (Shwethashathora Upanishad 3:3,4)

    What are the basic things of creation of this universe? .one
    god creates universe by his own power (shuklaya yejur Veda 17:-18)

    All the Planet and all the stars are depends to one god
    (Adarva Veda 13:-5 to 22)

    He (one god) created and protects universe, earth, sky and
    space between sky and earth (Adarva Veda 7:26:4)

    Movement of air, sun rises, fire and all things are due to
    his power (Shwethashathora Upanishath 2:8:1) (Mundako Upanishath 2:2:11)

    He controlled the entire world, he is alone. He (Greatness)
    looking (Vivacious) his creation (hrid Veda 8:25:16) (Shwethashathora
    Upanishath 16:17)

    ============================================================================

    2) According to Hindu Veda who was a Hindu to do worship?

    According to Hindu believes Primitive Hindus pray to one god
    ‘ohm’.

    If someone preys to immortal things, they reach to hell. If
    someone unbelief the god they go to the hell. (Eshavaswa Upanishath 12, 13)

    One god creates all the matters in our universe, Deity,
    paradise and earth. He is the source of all the good things so we pray to him
    only.

    (Hrid Veda 10:-81:-1.)

    (Shwethashathora Upanishath 3:1)

    We Obeisance to one god for the creation of the entire
    universe.

    (Krishna yejur Veda 4:-6 to
    9)

    (Shwethashathora Upanishath 6:16 to 17)

    =============================================================================

    3) According to Hindu Veda how many gods are there?

    Primitive Hindus pray to one god ‘ohm’

    One god was the reason for all the creation. His existence
    was above the sky (hrid Veda 10:129:1,-2 – 0:129:6, 7)

    First of all hernias (one god) only existing here he create
    all things in our universe. Universe follows his rules and regulation (hrid
    Veda 10:121:1) (Shwethashathora Upanishad 3:4)

    What are the basic things of creation of this universe? .one
    god creates universe by his own power (shuklaya yejur Veda 17:-18)

    All the Planet and all the stars are depends to one god
    (Adarva Veda 13:5 to 22)

    “Thamitham nikitham sahas’a yeshaka yekavritheka yeka
    yekatham devameka vritham Veda sarve asmin deva yekavritho bavathi”

    He is alone (one). Believe he ever exists alone. There are
    no two gods (Adarva Veda 13-5-20, 21)

    Nothing equal to him (one god) .His Reputation was truthful
    and Greatness (yejur Veda 32:3)

    He was powerful than anything’s. He was powerful than
    Brahma, Shiva, Vishnu, divan’s, and all Vedas. He Slaughter the entire
    universe. Prey to him alone (sharabo Upanishath 2, 3)

    He controlled the entire world, he is alone. He (Greatness)
    looking (Vivacious) his creation (hrid Veda 8:25:16) (Shwethashathora
    Upanishath 16:17)

    If one man is trustful (real believer) he knows his god is
    one. He (god) never been say one, two, three……he is alone and high powerful.
    All the things are concentrated and united belongs to him. (Adarva Veda 13:5:1
    to 21)

    How can sun ray fall in all the direction? Like that you
    understand that god reach all were alone. (Keno Upanishath 1:8)

    Indram, brhma, Vishnu these devans are created and
    controlled them by god (thithariyo Upanishath 4:12)

    ===========================================================================

    4) According to Hindu Veda can we see the god from our naked
    eye?

    We can’t saw the god from our naked eye. We can’t saw him as
    an object. (Shwethashathora Upanishath 4:20)

    He saw without eye, he hearing without ear. He knows all
    things, but few of them are knows to him. (Shwethashathora Upanishath 3:19)

    He was beyond our sense, our word, and our brain (kado
    Upanishath 1:2:23)

    Our ancestor believes that, we can’t understand the god from
    our eye, ear and our brain. We can’t explain the structure of god. We can’t
    hear from other person the structure of god. Because it is beyond our sense.

    (Keno Upanishath 1:3).

    What is the matter we can’t understand from our sense? .but
    it is the source of all the power. You understand that it is the Para Brahma
    (god).

    What is the power we can’t saw from our naked eye? But it
    gives the sight to the eye. You understand that it is the Para Brahma (god).

    What is the power we can’t hear from our naked ear? But it
    gives the hearing to the ear. You understand that it is the Para Brahma (god).

    What is the power we can’t understand from our soul? But it
    gives all the power of soul. You understand that it is the Para Brahma (god).

    (Keno Upanishath 1:4, 5, 6, 7).

    How can sun ray fall all the direction? Like that you
    understand that god reach all where alone. (Keno Upanishath 1:8)

    If someone doesn’t know about truth of god. He can’t
    understand and not useful the Veda perfectly. (Shwethashathora Upanishath 4:8)

    If someone understand the god perfectly he being always
    unhappy or he always sadness. (Shwethashathora Upanishath 3:10)

    Most of the above god we can saw from the temple, photos,
    statue, Symbol, etc then what Veda says ‘We can’t saw him as an object’
    (Shwethashathora Upanishath 4:20) and we can’t understand the god from our eye,
    ear and our brain. We can’t explain the structure of god. We can’t hear from
    other person the structure of god. Because it is beyond our sense. (Keno
    Upanishath 1:3).

    today hindu worship raman,krishnan,vishnu,brahma,devi,devan,animal,tree,stone,sai baba,amma,about 33 core gods are there.

    where is the evidence to worship the above person?
    it there,that is the controdiction to the above verses.

    what a real hindu going to do?

    • Namaste Shabeer

      ———-what a real hindu going to do?———–

      First let me tell you what a real Muslim does

      1. He bows down to the biggest idol of the world- Kaba, five times a day 🙁
      2. He kisses the Kaba idol while visiting Mecca.
      3. He circumambulates Kaba idol and proves that he is the biggest idol worshipper on earth being the worhipper of biggest idol 🙂
      4. He worships graves and thinks of dead more powerful than God.
      5. And finally, above all, shows idiocy by thinking himself as non idolater and rest of the others as idolaters and thus worthy of getting slain for the sin of Shirk 🙁

      True Hindu will surely not going to do any of the above being the follower of Vedas. What you want to become? A true Muslim or a true Hindu?

      This will help you know the truth of non Arabs in Islam better http://satyagni.com/4091/i-am-a-non-arab-muslim/

  34. This is the reason my friend I don’t like Islam.. Inspite I am a good man, Islam says muslims not to be my friend… Not only this, one more tradition in Islam stops me praising it, i.e. to kill the non believers.. Islam says not to put question on him.. But how can i know if I stop putting questions ??? You raised many questions on Geeta, I answered them not because4 I take them as words of God, but because they are very logical. Human mind is prone to research, and Vedas say the same keep the research going on… But Islam says no to any kind of research.

  35. The Qur’an instructs against having intimate relations with Non-Muslims and against having them as friends. Is this not communalism?

    There are verses in the Qur’an which makes it clear that the deniers of Truth are not to be made bosom friends. Observe a few of these verses:

    “Let not the believers take for friends or helpers unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from God: except by way of precaution, that ye may guard yourselves from them. But God cautions you (to remember) Himself; for the final goal is to God.” (H.Q. 3:28)

    “O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: they are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily God guideth not a people unjust.” (H.Q. 5:51)

    “Your (real) friends are (no less than) God, his apostle, and the (fellowship of) believers – those who establish regular prayers and regular charity, and they bow down humbly (in worship).” (H.Q. 5:55)

    “As to those who turn (for friendship) to God, His apostle, and the (fellowship of) believers – it is the fellowship of God that must certainly triumph.” (H.Q. 5:56)

    “O ye who believe! Take not for friends and protectors those who take your religion for a mockery or sport, whether among those who received the scripture before you, or among those who reject faith; but fear ye God, if ye have faith (indeed).” (H.Q. 5:57)

    “When ye proclaim your call to prayer they take it (but) as mockery and sport; that is because they are a people without understanding.” (H.Q. 5:58)

    The Qur’an has given an account of the type of Non-Muslims with whom the Muslims are not to enter into friendly relations:

    “O ye who believe! Take not My enemies and yours as friends (or protectors) – offering them (your) love, even though they have rejected the Truth that has come to you, and have (on the contrary) driven out the prophet and yourselves (from your homes), (simply) because ye believe in God your Lord! If ye have come out to strive in My way and to seek My good pleasure, (take them not as friends), holding secret converse of love (and friendship) with them: for I know full well all that ye conceal and all that ye reveal. And any of you that does this has strayed from the straight path.” (H.Q. 60:1)

    “If they were to get the better of you, they would behave to you as enemies, and stretch forth their hands and their tongues against you for evil; and they desire that ye should reject the truth.” (H.Q. 60:2)

    The Qur’an has, therefore, prohibited from entering into an alliance with those of the non-Muslims, whether of the ‘People of the Book’ or otherwise, who viewed Islam and the Muslims with enmity; who hatched conspiracies for their destruction and who had driven out the Muslims from their homeland for the only reason that they had believed in Allah. It is certain that no Muslim, who is engaged in a campaign in the path of God against such deniers of the Truth, can ever have friendly relations with them. However, there were, among the Muslims, certain hypocrites, who entered into friendly relations with the enemies of Islam while feigning the posture of ‘We are with you’ when with the Muslims. It was about them that the Qur’an said, “and he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them” (Qur’an 5:51)

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    What is the verdict of the Qur’an concerning friendly relations with the Non-Muslims who exhibit no enmity towards Islam or the Muslim ?

    “God forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for God loveth those who are just.” (H.Q. 60:8)

    “God only forbids you, with regard to those who fight you for (your) faith, and drive you out of your homes, and support (others) in driving you out, from turning to them (for friendship and protection). It is such as turn to them (in these circumstances), that do wrong.” (H.Q. 60:9)

    It is evident from these verses that it has, in fact, been commanded not to enter into friendship only with those who hatch and execute plots for the destruction of Islam and the Muslims. The Qur’an never refers to any negative result in entering into friendly relations with the other ordinary non-Muslims which will not, in any way, prove harmful Islam.

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    The Qur’an prohibits marital relations with other religionists. Is this not communalism ?

    The Qur’an does prohibit all marital relations with polytheists.

    “Do not marry unbelieving women (idolaters), until they believe: a slave woman who believes is better than an unbelieving woman, even though she allure you. Nor marry (your girls) to unbelievers until they believe: a man slave who believes is better than an unbeliever, even though he allure you. Unbelievers do (but) beckon you to the Fire. But God beckons by His Grace to the Garden (of bliss) and forgiveness, and makes His signs clear to mankind: that they may celebrate His praise” (Qur’an 2:221)

    A marriage relationship is never one which is confined to the physical plane alone. Indeed, married life finds true fulfillment of purpose only in the union of an attitude of innocent love with one of mutual respect. The Qur’an has compared the purpose of man-woman relationship with that of the clothing that one wears. “…… they are your garments and ye are their garments.” (2:187). This similitude makes clear the degree of affinity and mutuality which must exist between life-mates.

    As distinct from the religions that have accepted asceticism as their ground norm, Islam views marital life as a religious obligation. In fact, prophet Muhammad (pbuh) had himself taught that ‘he who gets married has completed one half of faith.’

    The Qur’an and the practices of the prophet have, in themselves, prescribed the exact observances that are to be maintained in marital life. It is expedient to follow these regulations even in the sexual life that is based on morality. A Muslim can, by no means, deviate from this code of conduct.

    Polytheism has, of itself, no foundational basis per se. Therefore, polytheism has taken on different forms and meanings according to the variations in time and place. Similar has been the case of the rites, customs, and moral prescriptions of the polytheist. As far as the Muslim, who is obliged to follow the moral code revealed by God, is concerned he can never follow laws that have been formulated by man; particularly when such an attitude would go contrary to the tenets of the faith of his own profession. That his partner should follow a moral life that is quite contrary to his own creed, will only serve to adversely affect the religious life of the Muslim.

    There are religious communities that view adultery as a religious rite. Indeed, the Hittites of Greece and the Devadasis in India, were forced into prostitution as part and parcel of religion itself. The decree of Manu Smrithi is that if neither the virgin nor her father were to give their consent, it is permissible to carry away, by force, the woman of one’s liking and then to marry her. Such marriages which are permitted to the Kshathriya are referred to as Rakshasam (Manu Smrithi). It was the custom amongst the polytheists of Mecca to consider as father the one who most resembled the child that was itself born out of extra-marital sexual relationships which were had with many. Polyandry was a way of salvation in many primitive religions. Undoubtedly, therefore, it would be a difficult task, indeed, for the Muslim who chooses a mate from communities of polytheists who accepted as their own such forms of moral law, to live by his own religion.

    If the Qur’an had allowed the marriage with the Polytheists it would have caused much hardship for the Muslims. How would it be possible for a Muslim, to accept as his mate, a tantrik woman who practices polyandry as a religious act? It should either be that she is forced to forego her religious freedom or that he is forced to act against his religion. It would, perhaps, be also for the purpose of removing such difficulties that the Lord Creator prohibited marriages, in their totality, with the Polytheists.

    The Qur’an does permit the Muslim to take mates from the ‘People of the Book’ who are heirs to a moral code that is as clear as it is authentic. Whether this be the Jews or the Christians, they are after all, the possessors of a religions scripture that is to ne obeyed and of a moral code that is in accordance thereof. As for this moral code, it is, at best, a rough approximation of the Islamic code itself. It is, perhaps, for this reason that the Lord Creator permitted the Muslim to marry women from amongst the ‘People of the Book’.

    • @shabeer
      Brother may I ask you What is meaning of Muslim? If Muslim mean believing only and only in God, not bowing before any kind of stone , no inclusion of human in God prayer because no one can stand equal to God & worthy for reciting name with God, not kill the beneficial animal rather then protect them, not consider women source of enjoyment, not kill any human just for one’s ideology, protest the person who believe in keeping or making someone sex slave, not believe in incest theory of Aadam & Eva. I Vedic Follower believe in all above said teaching. Then why I can not be considered true Muslim? Why I am not allowed to enter in Kaba if Kaba is not Idol? Why there is very narrows defination of Muslim restricted to some particular place, time & event, human, following particulars rituals & superstitions etc.

  36. Non-Muslims have been referred to in the Qur’an as Kafir. It is given to understand that that is an uncouth expression. What does this term actually mean ?

    The literal meaning of the term Kafir is ‘he who conceals’. The cultivator, too, who hides the seeds in the soil is called a Kafir. To call the one who hides his accomplishments a Kafir was a practice that was in vogue even in the earliest Arabia. It can also be seen that the term Kafir has been used to aver to an ungrateful person.

    The Qur’an, however, uses Kafir to refer to a denier of the truth, one who shows ingratitude, a disbeliever and the like not in any uncouth manner; rather the Qur’an uses this term to explain the nature of those it intends to expose. The singular form of the term – Kafir – as well as the forms Kafirun and Kuffar, which are the plural derivatives, have been repeatedly used in the Qur’an. In all such instances the Qur’an has sought to explain the character of those it mentions within the context. Look at a few of the verses of the Qur’an:

    “Those who deny God and His apostles, and (those who) wish to separate God from His apostles, saying, ‘We believe in some but reject others’ : and (those who) wish to take a course midway. They are in truth (equally) the Kafirun; and We have prepared for the Kafirs a humiliating punishment.” (Qur’an 4:150,151)

    “They recognize the favours of God; then they deny them; and most of them are Kafirun (i.e. deniers of the truth / ungrateful ones)” (16:83)

    “It was We who revealed the Law (to Moses): therein was guidance and light. By its stand have been judged the Jews, by the prophets who bowed (as in Islam) to God’s will, by the Rabbis and doctors of Law: for to them was entrusted the protection of God’s Book, and they were witnesses thereto: therefore fear not men, but fear Me, and sell not My signs for a miserable price. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what God hath revealed, they are (no better than) the Kafirun.” (5:47)

    “Say : O ye Kafirun! I worship not that which ye worship. Nor will ye worship that which I worship. And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship, nor will ye worship that which I worship. To you be your way, and to me mine.” (109:1-6)

    From these verses we understand that the Qur’an has used the term Kafir to refer to those who, in not acknowledging Divine guidance, reject truth and show ingratitude to Allah, the Most Bounteous. Those who enjoy the blessings of the Lord Creator and yet abstain from acknowledging Allah, the Provider of all bounty are, indeed, Kafir. Those who deviate from the worship of Allah alone – the one thing that the Lord Creator, who provided for man all the means of his sustenance on earth, demanded of us – and pray unto the creations that are never to be worshipped, are Kafir. Those who do not acknowledge the messengers whom the Lord Creator had sent to illumine the path of guidance are Kafir. The one who does not regulate his life according to the religious scripture revealed, by the Lord Creator, as a criterion to judge between truth and falsehood, is a Kafir. It is the Kafir who have become enemies of the Truth who strive to blow out the Divine light of guidance.

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    Does not the Qur’an recommend the forcible conversion of Non-Muslims ?

    No. There is not a single verse in the Qur’an which recommends the forcible conversion of Non-Muslims. In fact, the Qur’an does not agree with the idea of forcible conversions.

    Islam means submission or peace. It can be said that Islam signifies the peace attained by the one who submits the whole of his life to the Almighty. Indeed, the Muslim is the one who has surrendered his own self to God. To say that one is a Muslim is to so conform one’s life along the path of divine guidance. This conformance must first germinate in one’s mind. It is the position of the Qur’an that unless there is a substantial change in thinking there can be no other change, whatsoever, of a fundamental nature. Therefore it does not agree with forcing anyone into the religion. In fact, the prophet, who had struggled greatly to convince his own society perchance they came into the fold of the true faith, was rebuked by the Qur’an for the mental agony that he underwent on realizing that the deniers of truth were not going to change their stand, in the following words: “If it had been thy Lord’s will, they would all have believed, – all who are on earth! Will thou then compel mankind, against their will to believe!” (H.Q. 10:99)

    The Qur’an makes it very clear that the duty entrusted to the messengers, who were appointed for the conveyance of the message of the true religion, was restricted to the propagation of the religion alone; it never included the coercion of others into the faith : “But what is the mission of apostles but to preach the clear message ?” (H.Q. 16:35)

    “If then they turn away, We have not sent thee as a guard over them. Thy duty is but to convey (the message).” (H.Q. 42:48)

    The Qur’an repeatedly tells the prophet that he is only to invite people to the true religion; never to compel them to change their faiths. “Say: ‘The truth is from your Lord.’ Let him who will, believe, and let him who will, reject (it).” (H.Q. 18:29)

    “Therefore do thou give admonition, for thou art one to admonish. Thou art not one to manage (men’s) affairs.” (H.Q. 88:21,22)

    In short, therefore, the messengers had all been only the propagators of the true religion. So was it the case with the last messenger also. He had the responsibility only of showing the people the nature of true religion. The obligation of the believers, too, who were conferred the duty of conveying the message of true religion, which was perfected through the last messenger, was restricted to this purpose alone: the obligation only of enabling others to distinguish between truth and falsehood. Not only has the Qur’an not demanded the forcible conversion of others, it has also declared that the practice of forcible conversion is, in itself, an abomination. “Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from error.” (H.Q. 2:256)

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    Does not the Qur’an, which strongly prohibits idolatry, encourage Muslims to demolish the objects of worship of other religionists ?

    No. There is not a single verse in the Qur’an which commands the destruction of the objects of worship of other religionists. Furthermore, it is the injunction of the Qur’an that the objects of worship of the non-Muslims must not be ridiculed. “Revile not those whom they call upon besides Allah” (H.Q. 6:108)

    It is true that Islam, which is grounded in monotheism, abhors the worship of the created. For the same reason, therefore, there are, in the Qur’an, numerous verses which seek to bring out the utter meaninglessness of the worship of the created. All of these verses serve the function of awakening the intellect of man. Indeed, the goal of the Qur’an has been the emancipation of human society from the clutches of the worship of the created. In fact, the Qur’an has never entertained the naive idea that humanity can be saved from the worship of the created by destroying the very objects which are deified. Therefore, that which the Qur’an did try to destroy has never been the objects of worship that were cast out of stone or other such materials. Rather, it has ever been the ‘idols’ that have been carved out in the very consciousness of man himself. The Author of the Qur’an is well aware that the use of force is never to be employed in the annihilations of these ‘idols’; and that it is the activization of the intellect that is to be the prime requirement. Thus, the Qur’an has sought first and foremost to educate the masses against idol-worship.

    In the view of the Qur’an, while idolatry must, without doubt, be criticized and opposed in the strongest terms, those who persevere with idol-worship must also be allowed full freedom for their purpose. It is this attitude of tolerance which is highlighted in the injunctions of the Qur’an which asks us not to revile the objects of worship. Indeed, in allowing the Christians from Najran the complete liberty to use his mosque at Medina for the purpose of their prayers, the prophet had himself demonstrated to the world the great tolerance of worship prescribed by the Qur’an.

    Furthermore, in the political order of Islam, the state is duty-bound to protect and preserve the places of worship as well as the other symbols of co-religionists. This fact is abundantly clear from the pact which the prophet had made with the Christians of Najran. There we read the following: “To the Christians of Najran and the surrounding territories, the security of God and the pledge of His prophet are extended for their lives, their religion and their property to the present as well as to the absent, and others besides; there shall be no interference with (the practice of) their faith or their observance, nor any change in their rights or privileges; no bishop shall be removed from his bishopric nor any monk from his monastery, nor any priest from his priesthood; and they shall continue to enjoy everything great and small, as heretofore; no image or cross shall be destroyed; they shall not oppress nor be oppressed; they shall not resume the practice of blood-vengeance as in the days of ignorance; no tithes shall be exacted from them, nor shall they be required to furnish provisions for the troops.”

    It can be easily seen from the historical records of the relevant period that after the prophet, the Caliphs as well as the Muslim rulers who succeeded them, all had granted complete freedom of worship to the people of other religious denominations in their realm.

  37. Non-Muslims have been referred to in the Qur’an as Kafir. It is given to understand that that is an uncouth expression. What does this term actually mean ?

    The literal meaning of the term Kafir is ‘he who conceals’. The cultivator, too, who hides the seeds in the soil is called a Kafir. To call the one who hides his accomplishments a Kafir was a practice that was in vogue even in the earliest Arabia. It can also be seen that the term Kafir has been used to aver to an ungrateful person.

    The Qur’an, however, uses Kafir to refer to a denier of the truth, one who shows ingratitude, a disbeliever and the like not in any uncouth manner; rather the Qur’an uses this term to explain the nature of those it intends to expose. The singular form of the term – Kafir – as well as the forms Kafirun and Kuffar, which are the plural derivatives, have been repeatedly used in the Qur’an. In all such instances the Qur’an has sought to explain the character of those it mentions within the context. Look at a few of the verses of the Qur’an:

    “Those who deny God and His apostles, and (those who) wish to separate God from His apostles, saying, ‘We believe in some but reject others’ : and (those who) wish to take a course midway. They are in truth (equally) the Kafirun; and We have prepared for the Kafirs a humiliating punishment.” (Qur’an 4:150,151)

    “They recognize the favours of God; then they deny them; and most of them are Kafirun (i.e. deniers of the truth / ungrateful ones)” (16:83)

    “It was We who revealed the Law (to Moses): therein was guidance and light. By its stand have been judged the Jews, by the prophets who bowed (as in Islam) to God’s will, by the Rabbis and doctors of Law: for to them was entrusted the protection of God’s Book, and they were witnesses thereto: therefore fear not men, but fear Me, and sell not My signs for a miserable price. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what God hath revealed, they are (no better than) the Kafirun.” (5:47)

    “Say : O ye Kafirun! I worship not that which ye worship. Nor will ye worship that which I worship. And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship, nor will ye worship that which I worship. To you be your way, and to me mine.” (109:1-6)

    From these verses we understand that the Qur’an has used the term Kafir to refer to those who, in not acknowledging Divine guidance, reject truth and show ingratitude to Allah, the Most Bounteous. Those who enjoy the blessings of the Lord Creator and yet abstain from acknowledging Allah, the Provider of all bounty are, indeed, Kafir. Those who deviate from the worship of Allah alone – the one thing that the Lord Creator, who provided for man all the means of his sustenance on earth, demanded of us – and pray unto the creations that are never to be worshipped, are Kafir. Those who do not acknowledge the messengers whom the Lord Creator had sent to illumine the path of guidance are Kafir. The one who does not regulate his life according to the religious scripture revealed, by the Lord Creator, as a criterion to judge between truth and falsehood, is a Kafir. It is the Kafir who have become enemies of the Truth who strive to blow out the Divine light of guidance.

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    Does not the Qur’an recommend the forcible conversion of Non-Muslims ?

    No. There is not a single verse in the Qur’an which recommends the forcible conversion of Non-Muslims. In fact, the Qur’an does not agree with the idea of forcible conversions.

    Islam means submission or peace. It can be said that Islam signifies the peace attained by the one who submits the whole of his life to the Almighty. Indeed, the Muslim is the one who has surrendered his own self to God. To say that one is a Muslim is to so conform one’s life along the path of divine guidance. This conformance must first germinate in one’s mind. It is the position of the Qur’an that unless there is a substantial change in thinking there can be no other change, whatsoever, of a fundamental nature. Therefore it does not agree with forcing anyone into the religion. In fact, the prophet, who had struggled greatly to convince his own society perchance they came into the fold of the true faith, was rebuked by the Qur’an for the mental agony that he underwent on realizing that the deniers of truth were not going to change their stand, in the following words: “If it had been thy Lord’s will, they would all have believed, – all who are on earth! Will thou then compel mankind, against their will to believe!” (H.Q. 10:99)

    The Qur’an makes it very clear that the duty entrusted to the messengers, who were appointed for the conveyance of the message of the true religion, was restricted to the propagation of the religion alone; it never included the coercion of others into the faith : “But what is the mission of apostles but to preach the clear message ?” (H.Q. 16:35)

    “If then they turn away, We have not sent thee as a guard over them. Thy duty is but to convey (the message).” (H.Q. 42:48)

    The Qur’an repeatedly tells the prophet that he is only to invite people to the true religion; never to compel them to change their faiths. “Say: ‘The truth is from your Lord.’ Let him who will, believe, and let him who will, reject (it).” (H.Q. 18:29)

    “Therefore do thou give admonition, for thou art one to admonish. Thou art not one to manage (men’s) affairs.” (H.Q. 88:21,22)

    In short, therefore, the messengers had all been only the propagators of the true religion. So was it the case with the last messenger also. He had the responsibility only of showing the people the nature of true religion. The obligation of the believers, too, who were conferred the duty of conveying the message of true religion, which was perfected through the last messenger, was restricted to this purpose alone: the obligation only of enabling others to distinguish between truth and falsehood. Not only has the Qur’an not demanded the forcible conversion of others, it has also declared that the practice of forcible conversion is, in itself, an abomination. “Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from error.” (H.Q. 2:256)

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    Does not the Qur’an, which strongly prohibits idolatry, encourage Muslims to demolish the objects of worship of other religionists ?

    No. There is not a single verse in the Qur’an which commands the destruction of the objects of worship of other religionists. Furthermore, it is the injunction of the Qur’an that the objects of worship of the non-Muslims must not be ridiculed. “Revile not those whom they call upon besides Allah” (H.Q. 6:108)

    It is true that Islam, which is grounded in monotheism, abhors the worship of the created. For the same reason, therefore, there are, in the Qur’an, numerous verses which seek to bring out the utter meaninglessness of the worship of the created. All of these verses serve the function of awakening the intellect of man. Indeed, the goal of the Qur’an has been the emancipation of human society from the clutches of the worship of the created. In fact, the Qur’an has never entertained the naive idea that humanity can be saved from the worship of the created by destroying the very objects which are deified. Therefore, that which the Qur’an did try to destroy has never been the objects of worship that were cast out of stone or other such materials. Rather, it has ever been the ‘idols’ that have been carved out in the very consciousness of man himself. The Author of the Qur’an is well aware that the use of force is never to be employed in the annihilations of these ‘idols’; and that it is the activization of the intellect that is to be the prime requirement. Thus, the Qur’an has sought first and foremost to educate the masses against idol-worship.

    In the view of the Qur’an, while idolatry must, without doubt, be criticized and opposed in the strongest terms, those who persevere with idol-worship must also be allowed full freedom for their purpose. It is this attitude of tolerance which is highlighted in the injunctions of the Qur’an which asks us not to revile the objects of worship. Indeed, in allowing the Christians from Najran the complete liberty to use his mosque at Medina for the purpose of their prayers, the prophet had himself demonstrated to the world the great tolerance of worship prescribed by the Qur’an.

    Furthermore, in the political order of Islam, the state is duty-bound to protect and preserve the places of worship as well as the other symbols of co-religionists. This fact is abundantly clear from the pact which the prophet had made with the Christians of Najran. There we read the following: “To the Christians of Najran and the surrounding territories, the security of God and the pledge of His prophet are extended for their lives, their religion and their property to the present as well as to the absent, and others besides; there shall be no interference with (the practice of) their faith or their observance, nor any change in their rights or privileges; no bishop shall be removed from his bishopric nor any monk from his monastery, nor any priest from his priesthood; and they shall continue to enjoy everything great and small, as heretofore; no image or cross shall be destroyed; they shall not oppress nor be oppressed; they shall not resume the practice of blood-vengeance as in the days of ignorance; no tithes shall be exacted from them, nor shall they be required to furnish provisions for the troops.”

    It can be easily seen from the historical records of the relevant period that after the prophet, the Caliphs as well as the Muslim rulers who succeeded them, all had granted complete freedom of worship to the people of other religious denominations in their realm.

    • @mueed,

      Yes, george bush and company are not terrorists. They are great humanists. They are doing a great job of demolishing a false cult called islam from this planet. They are ghazi. Anti-muslims ghazi.

      May allah reward them with paradise, jannat al firdous.
      Ameen

  38. Namaste Angniveerji,

    You are doing a very good job. Please kep it up…..
    U are standing for the TRUTH and Finally Truth wins….

    May GOD bless you with all his love and care…..

  39. who the hell has made this bloody site, if u dont knw about a religion then its better not to speak, if u want to know about islam then dont see people following it people can be wrong see what is written in quran and sahi hadith,here is a quotation from glorius Quran ” The Holy Quran teaches that whoever kills an innocent, it is as if he has killed all of the mankind; and whoever saves a person, it is as if he has saved all mankind”- ALMAIDA 5:32 HOLY QURAN , so please first be knwoledgeable then speak

  40. @ Tanveer …… a good work or knowledge results good ….. after every thing just ask you and your ” the one ” ….. what Islam results humanity and humans ? not just today but from its starting …. i believe answer is just ” blood of innocents ” …. and if u are still not ashamed of you and ur religion for being a curse on the earth … then believe me …. no one can help accept agniveer and aryya too

  41. THE CONDITION OF GOOD MUSLIM, A NOBLE LAUREATE:

    It is really shocking that a Nobel Laureate scientist like Dr Abdus Salam, who was the first Muslim honoured with Nobel Prize in 1979, is now a victim of intense religious persecution and insult in Pakistan as he belonged to the minority Ahmedia community. This year is the 10th death anniversary of Dr. Salam, but unfortunately there were no observances of the occasion in Pakistan, as Ahmedias are no longer considered Muslims in Pakistan.

    By a constitutional amendment in 1974, the minority Ahmedia community has been declared non-Muslim by the government and hence all the members of the community turned instantly into kafirs. Then onwards, the Pakistani Government is mentioning this information in the passports of the members of this community, so that they may not enter either Mecca or Medina as a Hajj pilgrim. Before the said 1974 constitution amendment, Dr Salam was a member of the Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission, a member of the Scientific Commission of Pakistan. And from 1961, he was the Chief Scientific Advisor to the President. But after the said 1974 amendment, he was stripped of all such responsibilities. When he died in 1996, his burial took place at their family graveyard in his home town Rabwa, without any state honour. Soon after his burial, fanatic Sunni clerics went to the spot so that no one can pray to Allah for this kafir and inscribe either a message of the Koran an Islamic symbol on the cenotaph. The local Magistrate expressed his desire to inscribe the words –“Abdus Salam the First Muslim Nobel Laureate”- on the tombstone. But the clerics dropped the word “Muslim” and the tombstone now reads “Abdus Salam the First Nobel Laureate”.

    It was the Prime Minister Z A Bhutto, who, after the above 1974 constitution amendment, initiated the persecution of the Ahmedias, which was later on intensified by the military dictator Zia-ul-Haq. And, the said persecution was at its peak when Dr Salam received the Nobel Prize. Just after receiving the Nobel Prize, he was invited by the faculty of the Quaid-e-Azam University in Islamabad to deliver a lecture, but he was denied entry into the University campus by the Islamist student organisations. But India offered him a grand welcome, when he came to this country, especially the scientific community of Kolkata gave him a hero’s welcome. We still remember his meeting with his aged teacher and placing the medal around his neck. On the next day we read that news and saw the photograph with moistened eyes.

    In Pakistan today, Shias are also persecuted and killed like the Ahmedias. All these developments shows that the creed of Islam is an extremely sectarian and communal. More pointedly, Islam is a doctrine of hate. It divides the entire humanity into two groups- those who believe in the Koran and the Prophet hood of Mohammad are Muslims or Momens and those who do not are kafir. In the eye of Allah, these kafirs are no better than animals and He instructs the Muslims, through Koran, to heap any type of oppression, torture or humiliation on the kafirs – to kill them, to rape their women, to set their house on fire, to occupy their land, to loot their valuables, to smash the skull of their children on stones and so on. So it is not difficult to understand what kind of brutality the Muslims of Pakistan could unleash on them, after they have been officially declared apostates by the government.

  42. Without money nothing can be done. Let the readers donate atleast Rs.500.00 (five hundred) for the project Agniveer. But the administration will be responsible to declare expenses.
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  43. Salam everybody.
    i am extremely sorry to say this but most of you, including even the so called muslims are confused about what islam is. let me clarify…. islam does not say all non muslims are kafirs. also, we are forbidden from calling anyone a kafir because only allah knows who is a kafir and who is not a kafir. Patriotism, generosity and humanism are parts of the faith. please, everyone… don’t malign islam if you dont know it. it is a beautiful religion with its wrong elements, unfortunately more outspoken.

    • @mariam parveen : Friend, have you read the Koran? The definition of kaffir is given exactly in the Koran.If you say allah has said that is Koran and hence every muslim knows what a kaffir is then i dont know what your comment means.Else please believe in the fact that you are half the intelligent and half the worth than any man as said by the same allah to Mohammad.

      Quran 5:51
      O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people

      Quran: 9:111, Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur’an.

      Quran-4:74- Let those fight in the cause of Allah Who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fighteth in the cause of Allah,- whether he is slain or gets victory (i.e. killed or be killed) – Soon shall We give him a reward of great (value).

      Quran-4:95- Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons (sacrifice both life and wealth) than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward.

      Quran-3:169-: Think not of those who are slain in Allah’s way as dead. Nay, they live, finding their sustenance in the presence of their Lord; (Here Allah is saying that those jihadi who dies [commit suicide] is not dead but he will be living with Allah).
      Quran-3:85, “If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter He will be in the ranks of those who have lost (All spiritual good).”

      Quran-9:39, Unless ye go forth, (for Jihad) He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place; but Him ye would not harm in the least. [Allah’s hatred to those who are reluctant to join Islamic jihad]

      Quran-9:73, O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell,- an evil refuge indeed.

      Seems you fall in the category referred in 4:95 so dont waste your time come out for jihad and kill some non believers,then only allah will have mercy on you.

      • Aryavratsaji aap kaha bhaag gaye? I told you if I you give the quotes from vedas you say which translation, which hym, where it is mentioned etc etc. Now just see above how fast you have given the quotes from Quran. Please explain no.17 “JO MANUSHYA VEDO KI SARVOPKARI AGYAO KA ULLANGHAN KARE USE SHOORVEER PURUSH YOGYA DUND DE. WO DURACHARI PARMESHWAR KE NYAY VYAVASTHA SE BHI KUST BHOGTA HAI.”

        “DUND HI SAB PRAJA PAR SHASAN RAKHTA HAI, DUND HI SAB AOR SE RAKSHA KARTA HAI, DUND HI SOTE HUE KO JAGATA HAI, VIDVAN LOG DUND KO DHARM MANTE HAI.

        IF YOU WANT I CAN GIVE YOU 100s OF QUOTES FROM VEDAS WHICH TALK ABOUT FIGHTING. JUST TO INFORM YOU I HAVE NOT TOUCHED MAHABHARAT YET.

      • @Tanveer : yar now you intellect has fallen much below the level that i had expected.
        where does Mahabharata come in from?
        i have quoted its from the Yusuf ali translation With the Chapter and Verse so the the person i have responded to can easily refer to where it is, and if he/she wants to respond he/she may.

        No 17 does not make sense to Me, which Veda? There are 4.

        and what is the vedo ki sarvopari agaya ?

        Besides that i have quoted above are not about fighting they are much degraded than that they are creating communal divide base on the ethnicity (what god would refer to his beings by their religion?? anyone sane with a fruitful concept of GOD would fail to comprehend)

        These verses are not about fighting they are about the bounty for those who kill in the “name of Allah” not for any specific purpose for e.g vanquishing the Evil or non righteous (now if you say anyone who is not a Muslim or follows ISLAM is Evil then i cannot answer)

        so please bhai.mujhe bhaksho. Lagta nahi ki aapko roohani tawajoo mein koi interest hai, to isliey aap jaise ho wasie hi raho.. kyon fizool mein yahan waha time waste kar rahe ho.

        aapke zehan ko sakoon mile.
        Allah (the all pervading and all loving and all forgiving, and who does not consider ones religion to create division amongst humans) Hafiz

      • Please refer Atharvaved no.17. I am not wasting my time brother. I am here to give you answers.IT IS YOU PEOPLE WHO ARE WASTING YOUR TIME BECAUSE WHATEVER YOU TRY TO DO ISLAM WAS, IS AND WILL BE THE FASTEST GRWOING RELIGION. SO PLEASE DONT WASTE YOUR TIME BECAUSE YOU WONT GET ANYTHING. INSTEAD CONCENTRATE ON SOME PRODUCTIVE AND USEFUL WORK. BY THE WAY YOU DONT KNOW MAHABHARAT WHICH CROES OF HINDUS READ AND BELEIVE IN??? OR R U AFRAID THAT I WILL QUOTE SOMETHING FROM IT.

      • @Tanveer : This is my last response to you . Mahabharat is not a religious scripture,its an epic like Ramayana. if you cant understand that i am sorry. and almost every indian knows that its about a war and victory of dharma over adharma not between one two sects or religions or ethnicities
        Besides if a person does not follow dharma in the most pious way and is a Dushta i.e does not lead a pious life and causes agony an paint to others in short is an anArya , the the ruler of the land should punish him as simple as that, and its an instruction to the king from eshwar.
        not to ordinary people

      • @Tanveer : i dont mind if as per u ISLAM is the fastest growing cult or not, My dharma teaches me to keep on the right path and i will do that. Even when the darkness thinks that it can engulf the entire space a spark of light is enough to put shivers in its spine.
        and only in the absence of light darkness prevails.
        People who are sane and use the gifted soul and heart would follow the truth and be enlightened in HIS presence no matter what.

      • Very well said. Same way the Quran also doent allow to kill anyone and everyone. It is only for those who fought against Islam. If you see the Islamic history you wil find that whenever Muslims were attacked they retaliated. Punishment is for only transgressors and not for innocent people. I do understand that Ramayan and Mahabharat are epics. My only point is why dont you tell this to hindu brothers and teach them vedas. You will come to know where do you stand.

      • What is this Islamic History? What is this ‘It is only for those who fought against Islam’. You can lie some where, not here; God knows how people can really hold demented Mohammad as honorable or Prophet; shame on you, people.

        009.029
        YUSUFALI: Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

        009:123
        SHAKIR: O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).

        Do these two verses look like defensive in nature to your brain? I will not be surprised if you say yes!

        Why do Muslims always resort to cheap rhetoric rather than substance? It may not happen right now, but at the rate others are coming to know about your Prophet and Islamic doctrines, very soon people will be laughing at you and might even feel averse towards you.

        You are not even ashamed of fascist nature of Islam and Koran. To call Koran a word of God, is an insult to one’s intellect.

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        Hmm ..is that so?..lets check the history

        ❶Muhammad’s Objective:fight every one and anyone who does not submit to Muhammad’s lord.

        Sahih Bukhari – 52:196
        Narrated Abu Huraira:
        Allah ‘s Apostle said, ” I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,’ and whoever says, ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,’ his life and property will be saved by me except for Islamic law, and his accounts will be with Allah, (either to punish him or to forgive him.)”
        source:http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/bukhari/052.sbt.html#004.052.196

        ❷ Muhammad’s three options for the non-muslims whom they encounter in the suo moto holy war (‘expedition’ they used to call it ..as if going on a hunt for animals)

        Sahih Muslim
        Book 019, Number 4294:
        It has been reported from Sulaiman b. Buraid through his father that when the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) appointed anyone as leader of an army or detachment he would especially exhort him to fear Allah and to be good to the Muslims who were with him. He would say: Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war, do not embezzle the spoils; do not break your pledge; and do not mutilate (the dead) bodies; do not kill the children. When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them. Then invite them to migrate from their lands to the land of Muhairs and inform them that, if they do so, they shall have all the privileges and obligations of the Muhajirs. If they refuse to migrate, tell them that they will have the status of Bedouin Muilims and will be subjected to the Commands of Allah like other Muslims, but they will not get any share from the spoils of war or Fai’ except when they actually fight with the Muslims (against the disbelievers). If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah’s help and fight them. When you lay siege to a fort and the besieged appeal to you for protection in the name of Allah and His Prophet, do not accord to them the guarantee of Allah and His Prophet, but accord to them your own guarantee and the guarantee of your companions for it is a lesser sin that the security given by you or your companions be disregarded than that the security granted in the name of Allah and His Prophet be violated When you besiege a fort and the besieged want you to let them out in accordance with Allah’s Command, do not let them come out in accordance with His Command, but do so at your (own) command, for you do not know whether or not you will be able to carry out Allah’s behest with regard to them.
        source:http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/muslim/019.smt.html#019.4294

        ❸Sudden Night raids on an unaware people.Prophet allows killing of women and children as they are polytheists

        Volume 4, Book 52, Number 256:
        Narrated As-Sab bin Jaththama:
        The Prophet passed by me at a place called Al-Abwa or Waddan, and was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, “They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans).”
        source:http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/bukhari/052.sbt.html#004.052.256

        ❹attack anybody without provocation

        Volume 4, Book 52, Number 234:
        Narrated Anas:
        The Prophet reached Khaibar in the morning, while the people were coming out carrying their spades over their shoulders. When they saw him they said, “This is Muhammad and his army! Muhammad and his army!” So, they took refuge in the fort. The Prophet raised both his hands and said, “Allahu Akbar, Khaibar is ruined, for when we approach a nation (i.e. enemy to fight) then miserable is the morning of the warned ones.” Then we found some donkeys which we (killed and) cooked: The announcer of the Prophet announced: “Allah and His Apostle forbid you to eat donkey’s meat.” So, all the pots including their contents were turned upside down.
        source:http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/bukhari/052.sbt.html#004.052.234

        ❺ Muhammad sends a goon to attack non-muslims.The goon doesn’t know on what account he should pick up a figjht!!!!! ..as always Muhammad has the standard answer ..pick up a fight in the name of Islam ..submiot or perish!!!

        Sahih Muslim
        Book 031, Number 5917:
        Suhail reported on the authority of Abu Huraira that Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) said on the Day of Khaibar: I shall certainly give this standard in the hand of one who loves Allah and his Messenger and Allah will grant victory at his hand. Umar b. Khattab said: Never did I cherish for leadership but on that day. I came before him with the hope that I may be called for this, but Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) called ‘Ali b. Abu Talib and he conferred (this honour) upon him and said: Proceed on and do not look about until Allah grants you victory, and ‘Ali went a bit and then halted and did not look about and then said in a loud voice: Allah’s Messenger, ————ON WHAT ISSUE SHOULD I FIGHT WITH THE PEOPLE? Thereupon he (the PROPHET) SAID: FIGHT THEM UNTIL THEY BEAR TESTIMONY TO THE FACT THAT THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH AND MUHAMMAD IS HIS MESSENGER, and when they do that then their blood and their riches are inviolable from your hands but what is justified by law and their reckoning is with Allah.
        source:http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/muslim/031.smt.html#031.5917

        If you are apologetic muslim trying to defend the indefensible ..i have the correct advise to you

        throw away these hate filled accounts from the Quran and Hadit and reclaim the true Muhammad who was not present when the Caliphs were doctoring the quran and hadit for political motives.

      • It is very interesting, right, and at the same time frightening.

        How frequently Muslims say Islam forbids killing of innocents? But when Muslims do killing along with justifying their acts by quoting verses from Koran, they say that they are not Muslims.

        Mostly when discussing with Muslims, one needs to understand words the way Muslims use.

        Here who is an innocent according to Islam? Islamic theology says Non Muslims are not innocent. Remember even Sharukh said Islam forbids killing of innocent people without explaining anything.

        Any way violence and terrorism are means for political aim, this is violent Jihad. More troubling and dangerous is stealth Jihad; the aim of this is same as violent Jihad but peaceful means should be used.

      • Bingo!

        Stealth jihad is the blood that pumps the heart of manifest jihad and keeps it aliev and thriving till the common objective of pan islamic world i realized.

        The stealthies need to be exposed and the common man made aware of this dirty nexus between the ‘moderate’ terrorism justifiers and sympathizers and the jihadis in the forefront

        these pests have infiltrated the media, human rights orgs and dawah centers.

      • @tanveer,
        abe shaane, tu kya dogla aadmi hai? First you say islam doesnt teach to kill innocents, just to fight in self defence. Then you say, islam is the fastest growing religion.
        Now can you LOGICALLY explain to me, how can islam be the fastest growing religion without indulging in offensive jihad?

        Secondly, what did the kashmiri hindu minority do to islam in kashmir? Why were they wiped out? Plkease give logical answers not parroting some garbage. Also, what should I do to take revenge for kashmir? Retaliate against muslim minority in my state of maharashtra? Your allah gonna stop me?

      • @ Tanveer

        वेदकी सर्वोपरी आज्या की परिभषा जानो, फिर प्रश्न किया करो |

        क्या आप जब छोटे थे, तब गलत काम करने पर अम्मी-अब्बुसे दंडके बदलेमें मार नहिं खाते थे, ताकि आप वोह गलती आगे न दोहरा सको | ईश्वर भी तो हमारे लिये अम्मी-अब्बु (मां-बाप) तो है, वोह यदि गलत करने पर दंड दें तो कुछ शीख हि मिलती है |

        आप कईं दिनोंसे एक तरफी वेद पढाई करते हो, ईसलिये, वेदमें भी आपको लडाईवाली बातें दिखाई देती है |
        इश्वर आपको समझनेकी शक्ति दे |

      • ARYAJI AAP KE AAKHIR KE LAFZ MAI DHOHRA DETA HU SIRF FARQ ITNA HAIN KI MAI VED KI JAGAH QURAN LIKH RAHA HU.
        ” AAP KAI DINO SE EK TARFI PADAI KARTE HO, QURAN MEI AAP KO LADAI WALE BAATEI DEKHAI DETI HAI. MAI BHI PRATHNA KARUNGA KE ALLAH AAPKO SAMAJH DE.

      • नमस्ते तन्वीरभाई, हमारी और आपकी सिर्फ और सिर्फ वेदके बारेमें ही बात हुई है | नजाने आप कहाँ खोये रेहते हो ? आपको कुछ गलतफैमी जरूर हुई है, आप सब बातचीत मेरी और आपकी ध्यानसे पढियेगा |

        मेरे कमेन्ट्में ईश्वर के दंड के बारेमें भी लिखा है, उसके उपर आपने जराभी गौर न फरमाया ? क्रिपया, ध्यानसे आगेसे लिखिये और ध्यान रहे किसको उत्तर दे रहें है आप ?

        धन्यवाद

  44. Agniveer’s thesis is typically Anglo-Hindu: pompous, pretentious and deluded. He claims to tell Muslims about the “true Mohammed”, a Mohammed in his own neo-Vedic image. The Muslim objection that there cannot be any contrast between Mohammed and Islam as Islam is nothing but the imitation of Mohammed, is perfectly valid. If Agniveer objects to Islam, let him have the courage to object to Mohammed.

    • Dear Sir..Pranaam !

      i second that opinion. but it’s quite possible that Agniveer is taking ‘one step at a time’ approach to unravel the truth

    • Namaste

      Agniveer’s courage is focussed not towards vanity criticism but constructive transformation. We have a very specific mission inspired by our loyalty towards our nation and world, that has been made very clear on the site.

      Our condemnation of the fake Muhammad as found in Hadiths and most verses of modern Quran is evident from our articles. We have all the valid reasons to conclude that these Hadiths and modern Quran were concocted long after death of Muhammad. And hence there is no reason why we should condemn the actual Muhammad for misdeeds of his misguided followers.

      If someone can prove us that this Quran is indeed the one that was authored by Muhammad and that the Hadiths are indeed authentic, only then would it be justified for us to condemn the real Muhammad.

      Please note that Agniveer is not driven by hatred against any community or person but a vision to establish truth, compassion and character in an honest manner. This might help understand our objectives.

      Dhanyavad
      Admin

  45. Pandit Ram Prasad Bismil, a member of the Arya Samaj, was eager to explain the greatness of the Hindu religion to those belonging to other religions, though he never bore any prejudice against any religious community, and so, Ashfaq who was a devout Muslim befriended him, and they both had the common objective of a free, united India. They died on the same day, as martyrs for India, but in different jails

  46. Agniveer Ji

    I sincerely hope against hope that this well analyzed article attracts at least one ..just one ..moderate muslim!

    i am yet to find one 🙁

      • Brother Om Jai Jagdish
        Namaste Brother,
        I am fine, somewhat busy though. But always eye on what is happening here. Very happy to see many Dharm Rakshaks, ready 24X7 to defend Dharm now. Brother Vik is active anyway. You can see him refuting the claims of our Muslim friends as usual with his irrefutable logic. Hope everything is going well with you and with all noble people.

        Will come in action soon!

      • Namaste Om Jai Jagdish Ji

        Most probably academic or professional exigencies could be the reason.

        But I am sure both of them are visiting the site regularly …waiting for them to get back in action once again 🙂

    • Hi agniveerji, i heard anwar talking hell about hinduism and espacially about vedic religion. I think his mind have been adulterad with this ISLAMIC thougt so may god show him the right way of knownloge and truth………..

  47. @ Brother Agniveer,

    Great Article, i really liked the Personally development idea, it would be very helpful for them.. i would suggest yog n meditation could also be introduced later or simultaneously which would of tremendous help as a stress buster!

    II Sarve bhavantu sukhinah, Sarve santu Niramaya, Sarve bhadraani Pashyantu, Maa Kaschit Dukkha Bhaagbhavet II

  48. CHINESE PEOPLE ARE POLYTHEIST but do the SAUDIA ARABIA AND PAKISTAN HAVE THE GUTS TO CONVERT THEM TO ISLAM. EVEN THEY DO NOT HAVE GUTS TO SAY OPENLY TO CONVERT CHINESE PEOPLE TO ISLAM UNLIKE INDIA WHERE WE ARE STILL LICKING PSEUDOSECULARISM BECAUSE OF THIS EUNUCH COUNTRIES LIKE PAKISTAN AND SAUDI ARABIA DREAMS OF CONVERTING HIDNUS TO ISLAM.

  49. Sufi is the most refined form of Islam and still carries true meaning of Islam. Muslims should adopt the Sufi first, As Sufi’s philosophy is nearer to Vedanta. Ajmeer’s famous Sufi Saint Chisti is one of the example. Many Hindu Saints praised the philosophy of Sufi. Mystic part of Islam.

      • @roger
        How you can say without any proof. I have gone through their philosophy. Please read and then comment.

      • lol… Kafirs fight each other. You are make by Allah to go astray in this world and to the hell in after life. lol..

        ISLAM IS ONE, THERE IS NO SUFI NO SUNNI. OUR BELOVED KHWAJA MOINUDDIN CHISTI WAS A GREAT PREACHER WHO GIVE ORDER TO MUHAMMAD GHAURI TO ATTACK THE KAFIR KING OF DELHI, PIRITHVIRAJ CHOHAN AND DEFEAT HIM. ALLAHMDULILLA GHAURI DEFEAT CHOHAN AND FROM THEN, INDIA CAME UNDER GREAT ISLAMIC EMPIRE.

        So not try to create section between us. We are one and we have same objective to come every human to surrender to Deen. Khwaja Moinuddin work for spreading Deen by educate hindu illitrates of that time to the light of islam. IF SUFI WAS DIFFERENT FROM SUNNI, WHY WAS KHWAJA ORDER GHAURI TO ATTACK PIRITHVIRAJ CHOHAN AND WHY WAS GHAURI OBEY TO HIM?

        REMEMBER, WE MUSLIMS RULING YOU FROM 1000 YEARS, IT HAPPEN BECAUSE ALL OF US SUFI, SUNNI SHIA ARE ONE, ALAHMDULILLA.

        KEEP FIGHTING…. THATS THE ONLY WORK YOU CAN DO. LOL

      • @Sandeep : Learn from the Mentality of Typical Muslim, u fool. that’s what they have been doing , Al Taqiya, Create a set SUFI which resembles in some aspects the Dharma, preach it an then convert people.and now if Mr Anwar (who is proud that his ancestors were raped and converted to Islam) says there is no Shia and Sunni they i dont know why so many shia are getting killed in middle East by their so called ONE Muslim sunni fraternity.

        and LOL “WE MUSLIMS” just like the WE MUSLIMS in Kashmir who think that Mohammad’s hair strand is in hazratbal(Mo-e-Muqaddas) and worship it like lunatics

      • @Sandeep : and he is right SUFI is no different from any other sect of ISLAM , they are just created to gain access into the impenetrable philosophy of the Veda by posing they are similar to it. Sufi’s are not even considered Muslims by the Scholars of Islam.

      • Brother आर्यव्रतस्थ summed it up well.

        Sufi, Shia, Sunni, doesn’t matter they all share the same violent, intolerant and ignorant mentality of Islam.

        I’ve had a personal experience with a Sufi who attacked the Dharma with foolish claims, with whom I debated and won might I add. So I can personally vouch for the fact that they all share the same mentality. Same thing, different names.

        So brother Sandeep, don’t be fooled by their play of words like ‘Sunni’, ‘Sufi’ etc, they are all enemies of the Dharma and would stop at nothing to convert you to their cult.

        Namaste.

      • @Sandeep

        This is the story behind your so called Sufi Saint Chisti(bloody traitor)!!!

        Hazrat Shaikh Khwaja Syed Muhammad Mu’īnuddīn Chishtī
        Hazrat Shaikh Khwaja Syed Muhammad Mu’īnuddīn Chishtī of Ajmer is a hallowed name amongst Sufi saints of India. He is generally known as Gharib Nawaz (the friend of the poor beseechers). Mughal Emperor Akbar is said to have made several visits to his shrine many times starting and ending his journey on foot.
        He is projected as an example of “Sufi saintliness” and “secularism”, tending to all needy persons irrespective of their faith. However, little is known (or told?) about the major role that he played in Islamization of India.
        The following is excerpt from “Siya-al-aqtab” compiled in the mid-seventeenth century as quoted in P M Curie’s book “The shrine and cult of Mu’īnuddīn Chishtī of Ajmer”: ‘’It is told that once when he went to perform the pilgrimage to the holy tomb of the Prophet Muhammad, one day from the inside of the pure and blessed tomb a cry came: ‘’Send for Muinuddin.’’ When Muinuddin came to the door he stood there and he saw that presence speak to him. ‘’Muinuddin, you are the essence of my faith; but must go to Hindustan. There is a place called Ajmer, to which one of my sons (descendants) went for a holy war, and now he has become a martyr, and the place has passed again into the hands of infidels. By the grace of your footsteps there, once more shall Islam be made manifest, and the Kafirs be punished by God’s wrath.’’
        “Accordingly Muinuddin reached Ajmer in Hindustan. There he said: ‘Praise be to God, May he be exalted, for I have gained possession of the property of my brother. Although, at that time there were many temples of idols around the lake, when the Khwaja saw them, he said: ‘If God and His Prophet so will, it will not be long before I raze to the ground these idol-temples.’”
        This is followed by tales of Khwaja coming over those Hindu deities and teachers who were strongly opposed to his settling down there. Amongst such people was a disgruntled employee of Rai Pithaura (as Prithvi Raj Chauhan was also known).
        It appears that shorn of miracles the story simply suggests that Khwaja came to India determined to eradicated idolatry and paganism and establish Islam in its place. He met with a lot of resistance from the local governor of Rai Pithaura besides resistance from Rai Pithaura himself. With the help of the immense treasure at his disposal and having converted many gullible Hindus to his faith, he became strong enough to invite Rai Pithaura to convert to Islam. Having failed to persuade him, Khwaja sent a message inviting Sultan Shihabuddin Ghori to attack India. Shihabuddin made unsuccessful invasions. Rai Pithaura always allowed him to go back unmolested after his defeat. Ultimately, however, he defeated Prithvi Raj Chauhan and killed him.

        I urge you to get your facts correct instead of jumping on conclusion based on your OWN assumptions.

      • Sorry Agniveer. I was really fool indeed. But many of us praised sufi highly. How horrible !! But Muslims should learn, if at all they have any brain, that a bee gathers honey even from flower of Neem. Hindus, till worship and regards the goodness of garbage.

      • Mr. Anwar or Janwar ??

        Thanks for opening eyes. You people are really treacherous by gene. The forgiveness of Prithviraj was taken by granted. We are awaking. Don’t forget the prediction of Nostradamus. One Hindu king will abolish creatures like you from earth. Just wait and watch.

        My dear Roger. Sorry Bro.

      • Hindus are awaking????
        THOUSANDS OF HINDUS ARE COMING TO ISLAM AND ISLAM IS FASTEST GROWING RELIGION. YOU PEOPLE WANT TO CONVERT MUSLIMS TO YOUR DHARAM! HAHAHAHAHAHA….ONE OF YOUR FOOL HINDU PANDIT DAYANAND WHO ATTACK ISLAM BY HIS FOOLISH WRITING AND TRY TO CONVERT MUSLIMS TO HINDU DHARAM, HE KILLED BY YOU HINDUS ONLY. LOL

        NOT ONLY THAT, YOUR ARYA SAMAJ IS HATE BY YOUR HINDUS, IT IS FUNNY..HAHAHAHA NON MUSLIMS CANT SURVIVE BECAUSE ALLAH WITH US MUSLIMS AND NOT WITH JAHIL KAFIRS. LOL…

        IT IS BETTER IF YOU COME TO ISLAM, ONLY TRUE RELIGION OTHERWISE NO ONE WILL SAVE YOU ON JUDGMENT DAY. SEE THE VIDEOS OF DR ZAKIR NAIK, ALHAMDULILLA, YOU WILL COME TO RIGHT PATH INSHALLAH.

      • Anwar

        You people seriously needs psychiatric treatment. Learn quantum physics which confirm the unity between all diversity. The educated part of human are moving away from Islam and Christian and coming to Hindu.

        But sorry, muslim’s brain will not reach upto that level.

      • @Anwar

        Your allah is with whom we know better, you people still didn’t got kashmir, palestine after fighting from almost 50+ years. khilafat movement died its own death. Mughals tried their best to achieve that feat…but still we outnumbered you. Instead of doing violence in the name of allah you people got only misery from your god. And India and Israel are still going strong.

      • @ Roger, Sandeep

        Namaste Brothers,

        This psycho anwar runs with blinkers on.. he is gonna get naked houris n dates n pomegranates n gardens under which rivers flow.. n keep flowing.. Aish karega.. angels will make announcement:
        ‘Luxury suite in paradise booked for the believers by Allah and Jannat-e-firdaus ie. super deluxe luxury suite in jannah for the prophets and Great believers” (Dont laugh yaar!) … kya karein!!

        India.. Aryavart… the greatest nation in the world.. with WORST neighbours in the world… pakistan, afghanistan, china, banglasdesh!! ufff!!

      • Anwar

        You do not belong to ISLAM with kind of language you are using.It looks like you belong to some orphan family or Your Mother might be some low standard lady.

        Allah may show your right path.You are shame for ISLAM.We do not consider Zakir Naik as Prophet.Only Muhammad Sahab is considered as Prophet May Piss be upon him.

        Thanks
        Rasool

      • Namaste.

        I guess this response shows how Muslims are coming to realise the true nature of their prophet and Islam as well. See anything out of the ordinary about ‘peace be opon him’ ;)?

      • @Anwar

        Have you ever visited the worst parts of a metro city?

        i think you know what i mean :)..If Allah is with you ..He sure might be choking for breath

        Don’t believe in a God that promises good times in the (never to be confirmed) future and delivers (everywhere to be seen) worst times in present !

        I hope he remains with you and the ghettos from where you are posting your crap

      • @Anwar …you are listed in the ‘terrorist gangs’ on this site ..since you have not responded to the 10 points.

        you don’t deserve to be further engaged in a reasonable debate ..that’s why you are being responded to in the way that befits you and others who support terrorist supporters like Naik

      • Namaste brother.

        There aren’t ‘thousands of Hindus’ coming to Islam, it’s actually the other way around. There are millions of Muslims leaving Islam, thanks to them realising Islam’s true nature and teachings.

        Islam is not the fastest growing religion: http://agniveer.com/1624/islam-the-fastest-growing-religion/

        I, and all other brothers and sisters of the Dharma are already saved from ‘Judgement Day’, as it doesn’t exist.

      • bingo!

        how can one call a God JUST when he delays justice

        justice delayed is justice denied !

        It takes unevolved & irrational minds to believe in the Judgment Night fantasy :(..while it takes just commonsense to deny it

        but as they say common sense is very uncommon 🙁

      • Islam is a religion on PEACE…!!! True.. maan liya.
        Kitna dharm parivartan karoge bhai… Today there is not even 1% Hindu left in Pakistan. but here in India Muslims are multiplying like fire in jungle.
        Now tell me one simple thing: Why followers of Islam, misusing concepts of Islam.. why the whole world is questioning..??? What is wrong my friend..????
        Without any doubt.. not only Islam.. all religions are great… but why only Islam has been questioned globally??? do you have any answer..???
        Islam is not bad… but followers

        Om Shanti..!!!

      • Qur’an 56:8 “Those of the right hand-how happy will be those of the right hand! …Who will be honored in the Garden of Bliss; Qur’an 56:13 “A multitude of those from among the first, and a few from the latter, (will be) on couch-like thrones woven with gold and precious stones. Reclining, facing each other. Round about them will (serve) boys of perpetual (freshness), of never ending bloom, with goblets, jugs, and cups (filled) with sparkling wine. No aching of the head will they receive, nor suffer any madness, nor exhaustion. And with fruits, any that they may select: and the flesh of fowls, any they may desire. And (there will be) Hur (fair females) with big eyes, lovely and pure, beautiful ones, like unto hidden pearls, well-guarded in their shells. A reward for the deeds.”
        Qur’an 56:33 “Unending, and unforbidden, exalted beds, and maidens incomparable. We have formed them in a distinctive fashion and made them virgins, loving companions matched in age, for the sake of those of the right hand.” [Another translation reads:] “On couches or thrones raised high. Verily, We have created them (maidens) incomparable: We have formed their maidens as a special creation, and made them to grow a new growth. We made them virgins – pure and undefiled, lovers, matched in age.”
        Bukhari:V8B76N550 “I heard Allah’s Apostle saying, ‘From my followers there will be a crowd of 70,000 in number who will enter Paradise whose faces will glitter as the moon.’”
        Qur’an 37:40 “Fruits, Delights; they will be honored in the Gardens of Pleasure, on thrones facing one another. Round them will be passed a cup of pure white wine, delicious to the drinkers, free from ghoul (hurt), nor shall you be made mad or exhausted thereby. And with them will be Qasirat-at-Tarf (virgin females), restraining their glances (desiring none but you), with big, beautiful eyes. As if they were (sheltered) eggs, preserved.”
        Qur’an 88:8 “Faces will be joyful, glad with their endeavour. In a lofty Garden they hear no harmful speech.” Qur’an 88:12 “Therein will be a bubbling spring, raised throne-like couches, drinking cups ready placed, cushions set in rows, and rich silken carpets all spread out.”
        Bukhari:V4B55N544 “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘The first group who will enter Paradise will be glittering like the moon and those who will follow will glitter like the most brilliant star. They will not urinate, relieve nature, spit, or have any nasal secretions. Their combs will be gold and their sweat will smell like musk. Their companions will be houris [virgins]. All of them will look alike and will be sixty cubits (180 feet) tall.’”
        Bukhari:V8B76N542 “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘The believers, after being saved from the Fire, will be stopped at a bridge between Paradise and Hell and mutual retaliation will be established among them regarding wrongs they have committed against one another. After they are cleansed and purified through the retaliation, they will be admitted into Paradise.’”
        Qur’an 47:15 “(Here is) a Parable of the Garden which those who fear and keep their duty are promised: in it are rivers of unpolluted water; rivers of milk which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a delicious joy to the drinkers; and rivers of running honey pure and clear. In it there are all kinds of fruits with pardon from their Lord.”
        Qur’an 76:5 “As for the righteous, they will drink a cup of wine from a spring, making it gush forth abundantly.” Qur’an 76:19 “And round them shall serve immortal boys of perpetual freshness, never altering in age. If you saw them, you would think they were scattered pearls.” Qur’an 76:21 “Upon them will be green garments of fine green silk and heavy gold brocade. They will be adorned with bracelets of silver; their Lord will slack their thirst with wine.”
        Qur’an 77:41 “The righteous shall be amidst cool shades, springs, and fruits – all they desire. Eat and drink to your heart’s content.”
        Qur’an 78:31 “Verily for those who follow Us, there will be a fulfillment of your desires: enclosed Gardens, grapevines, voluptuous full-breasted maidens of equal age, and a cup full to the brim of wine. There they never hear vain discourse nor lying – a gift in payment – a reward from your Lord.”
        Qur’an 83:22 “The believers will be in Delightful Bliss: On couch-like thrones, gazing, their thirst will be slaked with pure wine.”
        Qur’an 85:11 “For those who believe and do good deeds will be Gardens; the fulfillment of all desires.”
        Bukhari:V7B69N494 “I heard the Prophet saying, ‘From among my followers there will be some who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, to be lawful. Allah will destroy them during the night and will let mountains fall on them. He will transform the rest into monkeys and pigs and they will remain so till the Day of Doom.’”
        Bukhari:V4B54N476-544 “The Prophet said, ‘In Paradise they will not urinate, relieve nature, spit, or have any nasal secretions. Everyone will have two virgins who will be so beautiful and transparent the bones of their legs will be seen through their flesh.’”
        Qur’an 52:17 “Verily, the Muttaqun (those who fear) will be in Gardens and Delight. Enjoying the (bliss) which their Lord has provided, and their Lord saved them from the torment of the blazing Fire. ‘Eat and drink with glee, because of what you used to do.’ They will recline (with ease) on Throne Couches (of dignity) arranged in ranks; and We shall join them to beautiful Hur (female maidens) with big, lustrous eyes.”
        Qur’an 52:21 “Those who believe and whose families follow them in Faith, to them shall We join their offspring: Nor shall We deprive them of their works: (Yet) each individual is in pledge for his deeds. [Imagine that. Wives and children will be joined with husbands and fathers who are cavorting with virgins. That ought to be entertaining.] And We shall provide fruit and meat, anything they desire. There they shall pass from hand to hand a (wine) cup free of frivolity, free of all taint of vanity or cause of sin. Round about them will serve, (devoted) to them, young boy servants of their own (handsome) as well-guarded pearls. They will advance to each other, drawing near, engaging in mutual enquiry. They will say: ‘We used to be afraid (of the punishment) in the midst of our families, but Allah has been good to us, and has delivered us from the torment of the Scorching Wind and Breath of Fire.”
        Qur’an 55:46 “For him who lives in terror of his Lord are two Gardens containing delights: shade, two fountains flowing, fruits in pairs. Reclining on carpets lined with silk brocade, fruits hanging low. In them virginal females with averted glances (desiring none but you), undeflowered by men or jinn. Is the reward of goodness aught but goodness?”
        Qur’an 55:62 “And beside this, there are two other Gardens, rich green in color from plentiful watering. In them will be two springs, gushing forth, and fruits. And beautiful companions, virgins cloistered in pavilions, undefiled by men and jinn, reclining on green cushions and rich mattresses. Which of the favors of you Lord will you both deny?”

      • Bro !

        thank you for sharing this non-spiritual super-carnal metrosexual paradise of Islam verbatim from the Quran.

        It raises a disturbing question in my mind ….If I picture an old maulana prostrating in prayers to his God ..Is THIS what is after? the houris…the boys…the wine ..the honey!!

        I had heard that it was only SATAN which lured people with carnal rewards ..Islam’s God seems to be doing nothing different 🙁

      • YOU ARE A MULLAH OF ISLAM. AND U SAID CORRECTLY, THAT UR RELIGION RULED FOR 1000 YEARS BECAUSE YOUR ALLAH ONLY NEED BLOOD . THAT HIS FAVOURATE WAS HUMAN KILLING AND RULLING OVER THEM AND SEND THEIR BLOOD BY YOUR SWORDS. BUT NOW IT IS NOT POSSIBLE FOR YOUR ALLAH , THEN HE ORDERED YOU IN QURAN TO “KILL INNOCENT ANIMALS” .WHO ARE SPEECHLESS AND SINLESS.
        THIS COUNTRY IS OF MAHARSIS AND RISHIS………………………..
        NO BLOOD AND MURDER REQUIRED………………………….
        WE HINDU ARE KIND THATS WHY YOUR ARE PRAYING ALLAH IN INDIA…………..
        IF YOU DONT BELIEF “THEN ME THEN I GIVE U EXAMPLE OF SAUDI ARABI”…….

  50. Hi Agniveer ji,

    I respect your article and no doubt that it is another jewel in this site’s crown.

    I have been watching the International affairs since last 20 years and understand that things are changing on very very fast pace. When there wrere no means of modern transport, then it used to take months to travel from one state to another. Camels in Caravan were consumed as food as it was desert with little or no natural vegetation around the region. In these areas, how come one can think of tribals to be peaceful and patient when, they had to depend heavily on flesh as they had no civilization.

    [ Civilization means everything synchronized for a society and communities to interact with each other in a peaceful environment. Everyone agrees that Indian Civilization was the most systematic and well settled in terms of culture and daily activities (like agriculture, trade, housing, literature, science and prevailing traditions). ]

    If for some reason, we consider that Shri Muhammad Saheb (PBUH and PBU-ALL), was a peaceful person, then he should have avoided massacres. Wars are justified, if these are against wrongful acts, oppression and exploitation, but unjustified when it comes to Religion or Community.

    Even Shri Ram as a human being fought for misdeeds, Ravana as a havoc. Ravana was a follower of Vedanta but his state/kingdom was full of adharma. So, it is clear that the fight was not between two cultures or communities but between exploitation. It was a repute of Shri RAM and entire kingdom at stake. That is why, war was certain. This is applicable to all the kingdoms and countries, where pride and welfare of the social-system are required.

    For example, lets say that someone abducts the Vice-president of any powerful country. Then it is imperative for that country to declare war. If the enemy can abduct a supreme authority, then this enemy would create a sense of insecurity amongst all the citizens. This enemy can easily intercept affairs of people at any point of time, paving the way for other enemies to take advantage as well. The result would be the “Destruction of the Social system along with its civilization”.

    This proves that Hindus follow Shri RAM as their role model in its moral as well as social duties. They do not follow Shri RAM for massacring the communities. So, even though Ramayana which is no where linked to Vedas, still teaches peace and “Art of Living a social life”, even when it describes WAR.

    Similarly, when it comes to the Islamic theology, WAR has always been its theme and they followed this theology. Had everything been at par with fundamentals of Shri RAM, then Quran/Hadiths etc might not have become so harsh on other followers.

    There is a difference of personality, all-together when compared between two.

    Lets assume that Shri Muhammad (PBUH and PBU-ALL) existed, so no doubt that respecting the Hindu community Shri RAM existed as well. Had he been in Ayodhya, he would have simply said no to the proposed Mandir. When he can leave for exile (the Jungle-Life) for 14 years, then having a Mandir would have no big deal for him. (Based on his character in Ramayan).

    Shri Muhammad (PBUH and PBU-ALL), would have been said otherwise. He would have then forced the concerned community to take over the region and act, according the Quran.

    We have no proofs, other than books. So, for any case studies, Books have to be considered as a legitimate proofs, until and unless, older proofs or substantial evidences are not available.

    I am not against any community or any leader, in particular but the current scenario has become so complicated that there is very very little room for any further clarification.

    Regards,

    Satyendra

    Why Hindus in particular had no guts to oppose Islam when it was in its most cruel role ?

    • We have to think about the nation first and communities later be it hindu, muslim or christian. Japan, China, Aus, N.Zealand etc. think about their nation first. So, they will not allow to spread such creatures in their land.

  51. The fact is muslims dont want to understand the reality…they just close their brain when they see facts..

    One amazing fact today i was searching for some applications on my mobile for mobile….i went to religious section then and there were 100+ pages filled with quran and bible no Bhagwad Gita or any thing…
    Percentage was like out of 100 quran and muslims books were more than 70% and rest bible and 1% hindu god images apps…

    SO much propagation by muslims i mean tooooo much….

  52. @Aryan : I would suggest that you must read “arctic home in the vedas” by B.G Tilak. and you will come to know what the vead and the Avesta already have clearly mentioned where the people to whom the veda was revealed originated,Read it come back with comments.

    Om tat Sat Brahmh arpan Astu

  53. Wonderful work as always Agniveerji! The new steps you’re planning to take, like the Dawah site, sounds awesome.

    I wish you the best of luck!

  54. The question is what ISLAM really means?

    ISLAM means peace attained through submission of will to the Almighty Allah.Therefore, those who are muslims are at peace while the non-believers are not.

    This is the reason why it is forbidden in iSLAM to greet a non muslim by saying salamwaliakum.It goes against the tenets of Islam.

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