Prophet-in-Hindu-Scriptures-–-An-analysis-(Part-1)
A relatively new propaganda seems to be on rage these days – that Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) has been prophesised in Hindu Scriptures. This seems to be a great hit in major anti-India radical websites over last few years.

First, it is proved that the Kalki Avatar mentioned in Bhavishya Puran is none other than Prophet Muhammad. Second, it is also demonstrated that Vedas, the final authority in Hinduism, themselves sang praise of Prophet Muhammad.

In this series, we shall critically analyze the claims of this propaganda and bring truth to the fore.

The most popular promoter of this hoax is none other than the stage-performer Dr Zakir Naik who can recite page number, chapter number and verse number for any book on earth. His style is so hypnotic and entertaining that the audience no more has the space to check relevance of his references. The same style is evident in his writing as well, which form the basis of his memorized speeches.

And now, the confused youth has found a new passion that confirms their seat in Paradise. They would simply copy-paste from his articles and spread the good word around on internet forums, blogs and social networking sites. The print outs are circulated in colleges and schools. This is often very effective against certain less-well-versed Hindus who fall under the ploy.

I hope this article will at least serve as a ready reference for answering this propaganda through a similar copy-paste if nothing more. However if this induces an attitude of questioning among the readers to seek the truth, and at least reject the obvious falsehoods that come in this journey, I would consider my efforts to be fruitful.

This series is based on the original article written by Dr Zakir Naik and published on Islamic Research Foundation website. You can review the same here: http://www.irf.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=201&Itemid=131

Before we get into a more detailed analysis, let us argue a few more points:

  1. Muslims have been in India for around 1000 years now. And for majority of the time, they were ruling this country. Why is it that Muslims could not discover this obvious fact in so many years? In fact, study of Vedas and Purans were more popular in those times than it is today! Why is it that no commentary on Vedas written by anyone since Vedas were first authored (they are considered the oldest books) could ever discover such an important fact which is to decide the fate of the world?After all, as per Dr Naik, the only way to book a ticket to Paradise is by believing in Prophet Muhammad to be the last Prophet and his message being the only authoritative message of God! Thus no message of Vedas can be more important than this message, if it is indeed a true fiction!
  2. If indeed Vedas could prophesise coming of Prophet Muhammad, why not consider Vedas to be work of another Prophet? Is it not a miracle that the oldest book on earth could predict arrival of the last Prophet! So, why not accept Vedas as book of God?The usual answer to this perplexing question is that Vedas may have been the first book, but Quran is last and hence only Quran has to be followed. Now my counter-question is that is God perfect or not? If yes, which is what Quran wants us to believe, then why could not God give his first book as final edition? If God knows everything, what made him change his own theories? This means that God is imperfect.Here, when trapped, the proponents weakly argue that God’s knowledge is same but the application changes from time to time. If that be so, should not a new Quran come now when the world order has completely changed from barbaric middle ages when Quran had to accept evils like slavery, polygamy and gender discrimination? Further, Vedas talk of rebirth. They talk of monogamy. They talk of Law of Karma and refuse belief in Heaven or Hell. They believe that nature, God and soul are beginning-less and endless. Creation and Destruction happen in continuous cycles. These are completely opposite to Quranic view of polygamy, one birth, permanent Heaven or Hell and this being the first and last creation of God that happened in few days a few thousand years ago. I can agree to some extent to future plans being modified by God as part of some grand strategy, but how can even God change the history of universe that had already happened even before Vedas came in Quran, his revised edition of message? Is God so forgetful of what he has already done? If that be so, what is the guarantee that he will not realize some more mistakes and send another edition of his message?Secondly, if indeed Vedas could predict about Prophet Muhammad, and Dr Zakir Naik sincerely believes so, should he not consider Vedas also as a book by Prophets? If not last, at least the first one? This is where Dr Naik’s corrupt tricks get exposed. He fears that any admission of any other books apart from those followed by believers (Jews, Christians and Muslims) being given by God may put him in Hell forever, as per instructions in Quran. So in another article of his, he flatly refuses to admit that Vedas are indeed books of revelation. He conveniently forgets that he himself has proved that Vedas gave the biggest prophecy of all times – the advent of Prophet Muhammad and claims that
    “ There is no text in the Qur’an or Sahih Hadith mentioning the name of the revelation that was sent to India. Since the names of the Vedas or other Hindu scriptures are no where to be found in Qur’an and Sahih Hadith, one cannot say for sure that they were the revelations of God. They may be the revelation of God or may not be the revelation of God.”
    You can check it out on his FAQ on Hinduism in his IRF site (www.irf.net)
  3. We should also scrutinize what qualifications Dr Zakir Naik possesses to interpret Vedas? Is he a Sanskrit scholar or a Vedic Pandit? Or has he referred to works of any scholar? No! He simply lists names of some commentrators on Vedas in his articles whom he has referred to. Most of these are either western indologists who are considered authentic in first place, or some others whom only Dr Naik knows. Further he does not provide exact translation by any of the scholars and only writes out the commentary that suits his predrawn conclusion. Even the western indologists did not hint on even remotest reference to Muhammad! Thus all Dr Naik has done is following the old art of marketing, “That a lie shouted thousand times becomes a truth!”
  4. And most importantly, by making claim of Prophet in Hindu Scriptures, this person and his gang have made greatest insult of the revered Prophet. They have denigrated the founder of Islam by their cheap gimmicks. Because, as we shall see in analysis, the verses cited by this gang to prove Prophet in Hindu Scriptures are actually talking about a demon and a mass murderer. For us, we have greatest respect for all religions and their founders. Thus we respect personal faith of each individual and are committed to stand against such insult against the sentiments of millions of Muslim brothers & sisters across the globe.

In next parts of the series, we will analyze the prophecy of Prophet in Bhavishya Puran and Vedas respectively. And we shall demonstrate how his agenda is to gravely insult both the noble Prophet as well as Hinduism.

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Gulam
Gulam
3 years 10 months ago
At last waste of time going through this website. Haters gonna hate, so that its their fate. I think people got their own views here about Islam. But they are purposefully ruining their times arguing with bigot people in a website which is gaining huge amount of hits. so please… Read more »
Bagyaraj
Bagyaraj
4 years 5 months ago
Lord McCauley’s speech in British Parliament on 2nd February, 1835 for converting India to a land suitable for them to rule and make Indians the British slaves : “I have traveled the length and breadth of India and there I have not seen one person who is a beggar, who… Read more »
shravak
shravak
4 years 5 months ago
@Bagyaraj You’re misinformed brother. He never said those things. Go to below link for info http://satyameva-jayate.org/2007/06/26/clearing-the-dust-off-macaulays-quote/ 1)No one has been able to give a proper reference for it, pointing to an original source of Macaulay’s speeches or writings. 2)Macaulay was not in England on the purported date of this “speech… Read more »
vibiesh
vibiesh
4 years 8 months ago

Agniveer is couragiuos and kindf to share and discuss about hindu thoughts, But the fanatics like Zakir Naik in their IRF website is not, if they start a page for disscussing various opinion of others all their false image will fall,Cowards!

raj.hyd
raj.hyd
4 years 9 months ago
muslim bandhu jab macca jate hai tab sange asvad ko bhi chumte hai ! aur yah tark dete hai ki muhammad ji ne usko chuma isliye ham bhi usko chumte hai ! ham puchna chahenge agar muhammad ji suar ko chumte to kya aap bhi usko chumte [bosa dete ,… Read more »
raj.hyd
raj.hyd
4 years 9 months ago
muslim log jab namaz ki prakriya karte hai ? uske pahale kapde me peshab ka ek katra bhi kapde me n laga ho uska khyal karte hai! namaz ke dauran agar “buri hava ” mal marg se n nikal paye uska bhi khyal karte hai ! vaise usko rokna to… Read more »
GK
GK
4 years 9 months ago
Hi Agniveer, Its a humble request to you to not to delete my post……..also, please stop creating such forums which divide people and spread hatred amongst people…when the philosophy of life is so sweet and simple. Dont put and waste your efforts in such vague matters which will be of… Read more »
KalBhairav
KalBhairav
4 years 9 months ago
@GK: please stop creating such forums which divide people and spread hatred amongst people I appreciate your universalism. Unfortunately majority of Muslims either disagree with you or are silent so they are completely useless. Here’s the trouble with universalism. Krishna in the BG says that Prakriti and Jivas have been… Read more »
GK
GK
4 years 9 months ago
Dear Kalbahirav, The four questions that i asked …….that were not answered…..May I ask you …do you personally say yes to them??? and 99% of my mind appeals it is yea. If that is yes then you and I are on same Line. Now abt the dis-agreement lines that is… Read more »
GK
GK
4 years 9 months ago
You all are mad….mad…..mad……all the muslims who are wasting time in proving …….to those who are nevo going to understand…till god bless them with sense…..may god bless them with sense…..AMEN To all the muslims and non muslims ….i would say…….. Answer my question in yes or no ….. 1. Do… Read more »
Indian Agnostic
Indian Agnostic
4 years 9 months ago
Namaste GK 1. Do you beleive in one that one power……who creates, sustains, destroyes…..and then continues the procedure…..the one who is all pervasisve….all inclusive…..that will….that light….that which is there in darkness….and that…..which is itself and who created self and self is it…..??????? A Dharmic Follower may not have any major… Read more »
GK
GK
4 years 9 months ago
Pranaam Indian Agnostic, I knw a human mind which is rational does not accept all that is imposed on it unless he gets the sense of it..or he is guided through his senses….. How does our mind senses and gets guide and why do we get all the info ..thinking…in… Read more »
Indian Agnostic
Indian Agnostic
4 years 9 months ago
Dear @GK , Namaste! My response was auto-clipped as per the 2000 words limit and i see that yours is auto-clipped too.Anyways, your message of finding a “common ground” is well registered.While I agree with this strategy in principle but i have my reservations against it’s applicability in many scenarios.… Read more »
Indian Agnostic
Indian Agnostic
4 years 9 months ago

Namste Gulfran !

since our comments are long , i have posted my response in the forums section.
here : http://agniveer.com/forum/Thread-Islam-Long-Discussions?pid=896#pid896

Regards
Indian Agnostic

Akhila Padhi
Akhila Padhi
4 years 9 months ago
Brother, I just said this to say you, how tolerant hindus are. 99% or more Hindus are secular. But the reverse in case of people of other religion. I feel no problem when one is a muslim or one is a christian, I feel no problem when a hindu changes… Read more »
Akhila Padhi
Akhila Padhi
4 years 9 months ago
@ GK – A long comment. But I enjoyed reading. After a long time I saw some one rational. I will like to say only those on which I disapprove. 1. Expansion of Religion – It is one of many reasons for which I don’t like the Christian missionaries and… Read more »
GK
GK
4 years 9 months ago
Part 5 of my reply Also, abt intolerance…yes all the religions are for that matter intolerant to crimes and wrong things…..but in religions like Christianity..thse are explicitly written that one should be tolerant to other religion and faith and especially in islam it’s clearly mentioned to be tolerant to other… Read more »
GK
GK
4 years 9 months ago
Part 4 of my reply I would also tell….all of the humans cannot have this line of thinkg…ppl do differ cause thts hw god creted them……thats what even quran and geeta says …..so let one decide his own course…and if someone chooses…go the other way its his wish…if I feel… Read more »
GK
GK
4 years 9 months ago
Part 3 of My reply Regarding the common ground …when we act with a common belief ..it is the whole ….and then start practicing a life of searching it……( GOD ) then we we cannot make our outlook restricted to one kind off thing only…then we initiate looking into other… Read more »
GK
GK
4 years 9 months ago
Part 2 of my reply…. Now if I critically examine the guidelines or directions given in the quran…then personally speaking …there I do nt find any such a flaw that warrants change cause if some book guides me to believe in God and Pray and pay zakaat and fast and… Read more »
GK
GK
4 years 9 months ago
Hi indian agnostic, first of all i woud like to thank you for the kind attention to the point that i wanted to make. I personally beleive that any thing that exists in this world ….all that we see..and all that we do not …..all have its own merits …..and… Read more »
KalBhairav
KalBhairav
4 years 9 months ago
@GK: I appreciate your effort to “find common ground” between religions…but I suggest you begin with your Muslim brethren…They seem to have hijacked your religion to unimaginable heights. I can trust Muslims more when they: (1)abolish death penalty for apostasy (2)make their countries secular – i.e. no shariah anywhere on… Read more »
GK
GK
4 years 9 months ago
The end of above “IF ANY HUMAN BEING ( MUSLIM OR NON MUSLIM ) does answer all of the above in YES then he/she is ………A SUBMITTER TO GOD ( GODS WILL ) i.e MUSLIM and is FOLLOWER OF SANATHAN DHARMA i.e HINDU….. MAY GOD BLESS ALL WITH WISDOM AND… Read more »
vibiesh
vibiesh
4 years 9 months ago
The quran says in chapter 2 verse 115 that whither so ever you turn you can see the face of allah, How can allah have a face if he dont have an image, In quran also says in chapetr 2 verse 158 safa and marwa are among the symbols of… Read more »
original siva
original siva
4 years 10 months ago

wish allllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa veryyyyyyyyyyy happy janmashtami.

lord krishna bless all

hare krishna hare krishna hare hare

hare ramaa hare rama hare hare

shashi kishor jha
shashi kishor jha
4 years 10 months ago

jai sri krishna

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years 10 months ago
This bloody fucker site should be banned… The stupid writer of the above discussion is so ignorant about Dr. Zakir’s personality that in order to prove him wrong, this fellow blatantly lies and quotes out of context to the Dr. Zakir usually refer. Though there might be, I suppose, hundreds… Read more »
shabeer
4 years 10 months ago
to @agniveer and all hindu member of this sites: the above posters(Anonymous) opinion not a real Islamic,either he is the member of fundamental Muslims or a spy from fundamental Hindu.an Islamic cannot be used such bad word like him,people ignored him. to Anonymous i don’t know who u r? don’t… Read more »
Aatish
4 years 10 months ago
@Shabeer ———we never and ever says any bad words against them———- Can you once more use ctrl+c and ctrl+v (which you are probably best in the world at 🙂 ) and share with us Quran [98:6]? I would love to see how you justify “noble words” used there for polytheists… Read more »
shabeer
4 years 10 months ago
first :where is the evidence from quran that its support polytheism? u never respond my replay,is it?u just escape from there is it? ok what u’r problem? And they were not commanded except to worship Allah , [being] sincere to Him in religion, inclining to truth, and to establish prayer… Read more »
vibiesh
vibiesh
4 years 9 months ago

visit my blog http://www.vibiesh.blogspot.com you will get the answer there

KalBhairav
KalBhairav
4 years 10 months ago

@shabeer:

either he is the member of fundamental Muslims…

How do you differentiate between “fundamental” Muslim and moderate(?) Muslim?

shabeer
4 years 10 months ago

fundamental Muslim here i mean the ‘the islamic namers'(the people with islamic name and not enter the essence of quran and haddeth the their heart)

they give the importance of emotionalism.

SDC
SDC
4 years 10 months ago

“This bloody fucker site should be banned.” Now, your double standards come to the fore. When Miyan Zakir was banned in UK, you cried foul that your voices were being muzzled and put forth the “freedom of expression” argument. Why cry now, asshole?

Vik
Vik
4 years 10 months ago
@Anonymous “bloody f**ker” are those the words taught to you by the Quran and Islam, looks like you are following an interesting religion. But I feel sorry for people like you, the reason u are angry is because your Zakir Bhai MBBS has been exposed from each and every corner… Read more »
Indian
Indian
5 years 15 days ago
Personally i have great respect for Jesus,Muhammad because they said more or less the same as Krishna,Budha,Nanak or any other prophet born in India.The only difference was the method they advised to reach the goal. In this regard, one questions constantly ponders in my mind,why the Hells do some of… Read more »
trackback
5 years 3 months ago

[…] yang  sejenis bisa di jumpai disini,disini,disini, disini dan […]

sarang
sarang
5 years 5 months ago
Wellsaid
Wellsaid
5 years 7 months ago
mirza tarmizi
mirza tarmizi
5 years 11 months ago

assess the organization and style of the book.Is it well-organized and clearly written?Does the style or the content of the book recommend it to a specific readership? a final evaluation of the book:how valuable is it?

R-H
R-H
6 years 3 months ago

@ Siva…

As you said " The Muslims claims that every human is born as a muslim b….."

Its just a claim not truth…

truthprevails
truthprevails
6 years 4 months ago

agni do u think u have better understanding than this man..

agniveer
6 years 3 months ago
The reasons why people say something like this are: lure of Arabic dollars, threat to life or an illegitimate relation (Hindu Law allow only one wife). What applies to him is best known to him. But he is definitely a fraud, and analysis of the same is provided on this… Read more »
vik
vik
6 years 4 months ago

@truthprevails

Mr Agniveer is 100% correct in all his arguments and they make so much sense than any zakir naik comment. So the truth is the Vedas, not Quran, so may the truth (Vedas) prevail

abdul
abdul
6 years 4 months ago
what a laugh at u ppl u dnt kno facts bt r ready 2 say quran is incorrect or vedas is bahahah da writer states dt sum young muslims copy and paste from muslim forums n circulate it 2 adas i hope he gets 2 read this n den contact… Read more »
R-H
R-H
6 years 4 months ago

@abdul……

Brother
you said :"what a laugh at u ppl
u dnt kno facts bt r ready 2 say quran is incorrect ………………………"

If you think that Quran does not contain any errors or contradictions then please visit this website :

http://www.1000mistakes.com/1000mistakes/index.ph

Also visit these links to know more abt Islam and Zakir Bhai:
http://www.wikiislam.com/wiki/Rebuttals_to_Zakir_
http://www.faithfreedom.org/debates/NaikCampbelli
http://www.faithfreedom.org/quran/quran-science
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com
http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/serve_besi
http://www.peacefaq.com/blasphemy.html#whatha
http://faithfreedom.org/content/did-prophet-endor

R-H
R-H
6 years 4 months ago
@vik… "bro, which side are u one"…. Brother I'm on the side of Truth… And we all know that The only truth = Vedas… "cuz i heard u say that all non beleivers should take fire extinguishers since Allah will throw them in eternal hell"…. Brother I just said that… Read more »
vik
vik
6 years 4 months ago

@R-H,

i am on the side of the truth, the Vedic side, so dont worry, i thought u were muslim trying to debate me, so that is why i said that, anyways dont worry brother, i apologize and good luck in spreading the truth.

R-H
R-H
6 years 4 months ago
@Vik… Bro.. You said "worry about urself, because so far, ur quran is being proved false, and hopefully one day, every musiim will remove it from their homes……." Why are you telling "…my quran"…I didnt talk in favour of muslims… I just said read this link… http://bvml.org/tmi/SS_bpatpm.html which states that… Read more »
vik
vik
6 years 4 months ago
@R-H bro, which side are u one, r u on our side, or the muslims side, cuz i heard u say that all non beleivers should take fire extinguishers since Allah will throw them in eternal hell. Anyways, this situation may appear comic, but it is true that islam is… Read more »
Sunil
Sunil
6 years 1 month ago
No intelligent human will believe in a God which throws people into hell fire. I believe God (the eternal formless nameless power called Brahman) guide every human irrespective of color, religious belief, sex or physical appearance towards righteous deeds and towards the light of bliss. Ultimately into a state of… Read more »
R-H
R-H
6 years 4 months ago
The above article was writen in 2004 … After many days after this article was published….. in Bangladesh Islamic groups had attacked Iskon… It took this much time for Islamic terrorists to attack innocent Iskon people… Probably they were waiting that angel gabrel or allah will put them in hell… Read more »
vik
vik
6 years 4 months ago

@R-H,

worry about urself, because so far, ur quran is being proved false, and hopefully one day, every musiim will remove it from their homes.

R-H
R-H
6 years 4 months ago
Hey… The holy prophet(PBUH) is prophecised in Bhavishya Purana… Please read this link http://bvml.org/tmi/SS_bpatpm.html The above article is written by an iskon guru …. Though he has quoted many things in support of his krishnaism, which I wont accept.. fully… But he has provided many other scriptural evidence and proved… Read more »
Sunil
Sunil
6 years 1 month ago

Neither hindus or India is mentioned in Quran, why? The writer had no idea of this country which was the world power at that time? Moreover more than half of the worlds population lived here at that time.

asif
asif
5 years 4 months ago

Now reply me where r u people????

asif
asif
5 years 4 months ago

Agniveer why did u delete my posts,i tell u b’coz u can’t have guts to do debate with me…
b’coz i proved every thing which u asked me …….

u people are totally fake u can’t hide the truth…….

Vik
Vik
5 years 4 months ago
@asif what debate my boy? You are simply copy pasting long crappy essays either from IRF or other illogical sites. Debate means presenting your >OWN< arguments and questions, not copy pasting long essays all the time. Its good your comments are deleted since they were really not comments but copy… Read more »
Agniveer
5 years 4 months ago
Dear Brother, This is comments section. We cannot allow long essays here. However we encourage you to provide links of such essays here for benefit of visitors. We also have a discussion forum on the site at http://agniveer.com/forum/ (check the top menu) where any visitor can register and share his/her… Read more »
asif
asif
5 years 4 months ago

first go and see that how true ur religion u will definitely get the answer about ur religion…

asif
asif
5 years 4 months ago
The Quran is the book of guidance for the entire humanity. The Quran is the fourth and the final divine book by Allah almighty. Although it confirms the revelation of the three divine books before them, however still so many people refuse to believe in the Quran. The scope of… Read more »
Vajra
Vajra
5 years 4 months ago
asif “The Quran is the fourth and the final divine book by Allah almighty” But Zakir Naik and Abdullah Tariq of peace TV have different views than yours! Zakir Naik accepted in his article that Quran is the seal of truthfulness of Arya Dharm (Vedas) and Abdullah Tariq of peace… Read more »
pratap
pratap
5 years 4 months ago
@ Asif Are you a frustrated Guy?? You think you can convince with “hoodwinking” tactics? You are doing more harm to your religion than good by adopting such stupid tricks. Take my good advice: Take a glass of warm milk with “khus-khus” and a tinge of saffron, and GO TO… Read more »
shafaq
shafaq
4 years 4 months ago

@ Pratap..Blah Blah Blah…….what happened….Agniveer’s paid some commission to you or what…..

agniveer
6 years 4 months ago

Bhavishya Puran continued to be written till late 19th century until printing press came. Its an unreliable book. But even it does not spare Muhammad from being a demon.

trackback
6 years 4 months ago
[…] – Qadiyanis/ Ahmadiyyas are considered Kafirs and are prosecuted by most Muslims for their radical beliefs. – Wahabis have been greatest enemies of Qadiyanis – The content of the Qadiyani writings that Zakir Bhai MBBS has swindled under his own name are blatantly against core beliefs of rest of… Read more »
Siva
Siva
6 years 4 months ago

Agniveerji;
The Muslims claims that every human is born as a muslim but practices religion according to their bring up. So they claim non Muslim's revert back to Islam and not converted to their religion. What is vedic or historical opinion on this?
Thank you

vibiesh
vibiesh
4 years 8 months ago

that’s only a claim there is no fact in it

Indian Agnostic
Indian Agnostic
5 years 4 months ago

Brother Asif Iqbal

please copy-paste in the forum sections .This is the comments section for dialogues. you are free to run propaganda in the forums 🙂

cc: @Agniveer Admin

shafaq
shafaq
4 years 4 months ago

yeah Agniveer, what are you doing…you have copied and pasted so many filths published by Katiyars and togadias…congrats.

GOD IS GREAT
GOD IS GREAT
4 years 4 months ago
Mr. ShafaQ! This is a much better website compared to Agniveer. This will answer why Agniveer is against a terrorist. First refute this and then come here. http://godofreason.com/user/image/islamevilinthenameofgodebook.pdf I do not get one thing! What’s wrong with Muslim world that they don’t want a NON Muslim to survive? And what’s… Read more »
Vik
Vik
5 years 4 months ago

@Asif

Namaste brother,

you got this crap from IRF.net, dont worry

this garbage has been refuted in these two articles below: Enjoy!!

http://agniveer.com/479/prophet-puran/
http://agniveer.com/528/prophet-vedas/

asif
asif
5 years 4 months ago
Where Does the word “Allah” Come From? “Allah” comes from the Arabic word “elah” – (Arabic) means ‘a god’ or something that is worshipped. This word (elah) can be made plural, as in “aleha” and it can be male or female. “Allah” comes from “elaha” but it brings more clarification… Read more »
Vik
Vik
5 years 4 months ago
@asif 1)Ok agreed Allah is eternal but it contradicts with the Islamic ideology. Islam or Quran claims only Allah alone is eternal but Quran claims Allah has been sitting on a throne, so this proves the throne existed with Him as well. If this is true, then Quran is proven… Read more »
asif
asif
5 years 4 months ago
A Prophet of Islam – Prophet Adam Praise be to God, Who sent a lot of Prophets and Messengers to this earth. The first Prophet of Islam is Prophet Adam. Yes, we are talking about the first human whom God created, because he was not only the first human but… Read more »
Agniveer
5 years 4 months ago
Dear Asif, All your other comments have been deleted. If you have a long essay to share, kindly publish it elsewhere and provide link here instead of pasting it all here. Else, kindly start a topic on discussion forum. Comments section is meant for short pointed discussions. We hope you… Read more »
Vajra
Vajra
5 years 4 months ago

Namaste Brother Vik
Lets pray Eeshvar that Brother Asif will go beyond copy pasting and think with his own intellect about the beautiful logic you have given. Hope he, being a human, will believe in the intellectual capabilities, Eeshvar has given to him someday, which he is ignoring now.

Vik
Vik
5 years 4 months ago
Namaste Brother Vajra yes, it appears that Asif as no clue what he is copy pasting and does not even know that every single kid out there can refute his stupidity. Moreover, what can be expected from a follower of Zakir Naik!! May Ishwar bless this ignorant child with some… Read more »
Vajra
Vajra
5 years 4 months ago

asif
“Allah has no gender”
I wonder, Allah has whole body with hands, legs, eyes, but not …!

asif
asif
5 years 4 months ago

but not what??????????

Vajra
Vajra
5 years 4 months ago

asif
What is there below the waist and above thighs?

Vajra
Vajra
5 years 4 months ago
asif And much more here 1. Muhammad allowed rape of captives Sahih Muslim: Book 008, Number 3371: Abu Sirma said to Abu Sa’id al Khadri (Allah he pleased with him): 0 Abu Sa’id, did you hear Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) mentioning al-’azl? He said: Yes, and added:… Read more »
asif
asif
5 years 4 months ago
don’t Debate with me I don’t have much knowledge abou other religions I just have knowledge of my Religion only…..so what ever u people want to prove can u have guts like Zakir Naik sahab???? He never proves things like u people on Internet he always prove in front of… Read more »
vibiesh
4 years 9 months ago
Zakir Naik never accepted the invitation for debate with the arya Samaj, he have only guts to debate with people with less knowledge or in a controlled prereharsed situation, watch the vdo in youtube where Zakir brutaly avoids an invitation from a chritian brother, in the vdo with the debate… Read more »
asif
asif
5 years 4 months ago

u people never Debate with zakir naik sahab b’coz u can not hide the truth

asif
asif
5 years 4 months ago

bas dekh lia maine kitna himmat hai tum logo me is baare me debate karne ki

asif
asif
5 years 4 months ago

No one can hide the truth

vibiesh
4 years 9 months ago

visit my blog http://www.vibiesh.blogspot.com
There is some tips a hindu need to debate with guys like you
quran Ch2 v 115 ch2 v 158 😛

Vik
Vik
5 years 4 months ago
@asif yes, you are right that no one can hide the truth. This is the whole purpose of this site which is to present the truth. The truth about Quran, about islam, and most importantly, the truth about Zakir Naik. Why don’t you watch the debates that took place between… Read more »
Vajra
Vajra
5 years 4 months ago

asif
Some more miracles of Quran here
http://agniveer.com/3118/miracle-islam/

asif
asif
5 years 4 months ago
Al-Quran is the eternal miracle. It is the last Book of Allah sent for the guidance of humanity through the last Prophet, Muhammad, peace be upon him (PBUH). Revelation of the Quran The Quran was revealed piecemeal throughout a period of about 23 years. The Prophet received the first revelation… Read more »
Vik
Vik
5 years 4 months ago

@asif

ya but many verses of the Quran were abrogated right? Shias say 17000 verses were present in the original Quran, but the one we have today only has 6666 verses. So maybe those verses claiming mohammad to be the last are the latest additions.

asif
asif
5 years 4 months ago

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiyan was not the prophet b’coz in Quran it is clearly mention that Prophet Muhammad S.A.W(PBUH) is the last prophet….

Vik
Vik
5 years 4 months ago

@asif

we always watch zakir naik videos for entertainment, his speeches are good laughter shows that make us laugh to the fullest. He is nothing more than a joker.

Vajra
Vajra
5 years 4 months ago

asif
Why? Are we born losers? Why is Allah so unjust? Why he gave all guts to Zakir Naik? Why not to you?

asif
asif
5 years 4 months ago

u people can’t have guts to do debate with zakir naik…

asif
asif
5 years 4 months ago

just speak false but no one believe u …

Vajra
Vajra
5 years 4 months ago

asif
Except Zakir Naik! After all he can do what others cant. Regarding debate with Zakir Naik, we challenged him many times and he REFUSED. Take a look

http://agniveer.com/1046/debate-islam/ and http://agniveer.com/789/zakir-scared/

Now i know what you will say! Let the others guess..

Vik
Vik
5 years 4 months ago

asif

go google search or youtube search “islam vs arya samaj debate” then you will find out that Pandit ji has challenged Naik on screen

Vajra
Vajra
5 years 4 months ago
asif Another side effect of listening to Zakir Naik along with dumbness of mind is addiction of watching videos! You did not even read what we gave you, most probably because it was not video and thus something which you dont believe in at all! I can send you the… Read more »
asif
asif
5 years 4 months ago
u people are lier zakir naik sahab never refused to debate over Islam,I saw his all videos he is a great man,I respect him so much and I saw that video also in which ur shankarcharya admired Islam.if u have not seen that video i will send u the link… Read more »
pratap
pratap
5 years 4 months ago
Hey hey COPY-PASTE, from where have you copied all this stuff. Step 1: Select the text to be copied; Step 2: Press Ctrl C; Step 3: Select the spot to paste and press Ctrl V. (And you can paste any “CRAP” from the Net!!) Dude, I bet you must not… Read more »
asif
asif
5 years 4 months ago
yes dear i copied it from the article of Dr. Zakir Naik, If u people want to debate over this then if u have guts then go and challenge Zakir naik sahab. He will give u all answers but I know u can’t because the fact is fact u can’t… Read more »
asif
asif
5 years 4 months ago
What u people want to prove here?????if u have really believe that what ever u want to say is right then go and show the people that what is right like Dr. Zakir Naik……. but u people just debate only on internet b’coz u don’t neglect the truth… I challenge… Read more »
pratap
pratap
5 years 4 months ago
No dear, I won’t debate with that pervert Zakir naik. In fact I consider you as MUCH more intelligent and HONEST (At least you confessed that You copied: I appreciate the spirit) than that lier ZAKIR, who is making fool out of all of us– Hindus and our Muslim Brothern.… Read more »
Vajra
Vajra
5 years 4 months ago
asif Keeping in mind your Qadiyani background, let me ask you first, what is your take on your last prophet Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiyani who said that whole Quran is full of abuses? Now please dont say that you are not Qadiyani, we know Qadiyanis too believe in Taqiya! To… Read more »
human being
human being
5 years 8 months ago

what to say! if i tell u that i talked to god and god told me about 10000 pages spiritual knowledge., u’ll belive it? that is happened with isalam

agniveer
6 years 4 months ago
Historically, stories of the messiah's of Islam are known to be full of loopholes. Even these gossip tales date no more beyond few centuries prior to Judaism. None of these religions existed when Vedas emerged and millenniums after that as well. As per Vedas, every human is born a human,… Read more »
Gulam
Gulam
3 years 10 months ago

In all sense u are forgetting that the Vedas which u are quoting as revelation of God Almighty was the oldest and is concocted as the Holy Bible was.
so stop blabbering abt Vedas.

shafaq
shafaq
4 years 4 months ago
@Agniveer- says Blah! Blah ! Blah !!! bravo Agniveer, you’ve succeeded in creating a platform to commit all the filth and hatred against a religion here. Who asks you to believe in Islam. Follow your own belief. But, do you follow Veda. Veda asks to worship one GOD: Rig-Veda 1-164-46… Read more »
GOD IS GREAT
GOD IS GREAT
4 years 4 months ago
Mr. Shafaq! Congratulations! You have exposed your mentality. Who asks you to visit Agniveer. Don’t visit such website if you feel bad. OK – I will apply your logic on you only. Quran 2 256 says NO COMPULSION IN RELIGION. Then why Muslims kill apostates??? Quran 5 32 says KILLING… Read more »
asif
asif
5 years 5 months ago
PROPHET MUHAMMAD (pbuh) IN THE BIBLE by Dr. Zakir Naik Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the Old Testament: The Qur’an mentions in Surah Al-Araf chapter 7 verse 157: “Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (scriptures) in the law and the Gospel”. 1.… Read more »
rashid masood
rashid masood
5 years 7 months ago
actually you too know that thr is no religion best other than attaining peace [moksh,salvation] by submitting the will to almity allah[god,ishwar,parmatma] ..i.e. exactly means islam… but still trying to ignore.. islam is the true religion accepted in the eyes of god..and prophet muhammad pbuh is not founder of islam… Read more »
Indian Agnostic
Indian Agnostic
5 years 7 months ago

Brother Rsahid Masood

no religion can be true if it accepts the incapability of it’s god to preserve the previous scriptures.

have you ever given that a thought ever?

a God who fails in protecting his message thrice is almost sure to fail the 4th time 🙁

Jacob
Jacob
5 years 8 months ago
and agniveer ji once again you say that the quran says that the earth is flat, could you kindly give me the verse specifically because from what i read the quran says the earth is spherical and it roates in an orbit… surah36:verse40 It is not for the sun to… Read more »
username
username
4 years 9 months ago
Quran is flawless? go and wash your mouth while i keep posting the flaws here. the most talked about miracle of Koran is embryology! do you know Galen, Aristotle explained it before Koran? and do you know Garbh Upnishad explains embryology in astonishingly precise manner? and Garbh Upnishad is some… Read more »
Indian Agnostic
Indian Agnostic
5 years 8 months ago
Brother @Jacob You are on a heavy dose of zakir narcotics …This site is for intellectual discussions ..not silly arguments of zakir bhai mbbs. The christian arabs laugh at the stupid distortions and taqiyya of zakir bhai ..taste this one ..the true meaning of dahaaha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87MVeqlbV8o please try to come… Read more »
Jacob
Jacob
5 years 8 months ago
Agniveerji you said: If indeed Vedas could prophesise coming of Prophet Muhammad, why not consider Vedas to be work of another Prophet? Is it not a miracle that the oldest book on earth could predict arrival of the last Prophet! So, why not accept Vedas as book of God?The usual… Read more »
Indian Agnostic
Indian Agnostic
5 years 8 months ago
@Jacob 1) Vedas are not books ..Vedas means knowledge and have been transmitted uninterrupted in the guru-shishya (teacher-disciple) tradition..there are ten ways in which this knowledge is transmitted through different schools ..so there are ten check points to not only detect errors but correct them too [this is differenmt from… Read more »
Binod shaw
Binod shaw
4 years 9 months ago

Brother, Truly brilliant

Jacob
Jacob
5 years 8 months ago
the arabs still read arabic without the vowels bro, the quran was compiled with the help of the first caliph and to ignore any misconception the improper compilations were destroyed. and alif not in arabic. brother the word allah starts with an alif and the word muhammed has an alif… Read more »
Jacob
Jacob
5 years 8 months ago
dude and all this talk about sects which non beleivers made up to divide the followers… what about hinduism then, all this cow worship elephant worship, walking on fire, hanging yourself with pierecd spikes, atha dance… im an intellectual person and i know that those are all made up and… Read more »
Indian Agnostic
Indian Agnostic
5 years 8 months ago
@Jacob first you must accept bro that the hadits need to be discarded and people like zakir naik should be condemned in unambiguous terms I strongly believe (and i have my proofs) that the hate filled verse of Quran and the lustful accounts of the hadits are a later addition… Read more »
Jacob
Jacob
5 years 8 months ago
dear brother, peace be unto you for striving to find the true pathe. but brother you have been brainwashed by your ancestors. what is all this talk about a Zakir Naik MBBS, im not Indian and Im not an arab, Why do you instead of answering my questions, keep insulting… Read more »
Arya
Arya
5 years 8 months ago
@jacob Brother, I am still waiting for you to give your comments on http://agniveer.com/2623/islam-will-not-be-a-threat-if/. 1. Quran [8:41]- “And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire [in war], a fifth share is assigned to Allah,- and to the Messenger…” 2. Regarding Quran [9:6], if you would have… Read more »
Arya
Arya
5 years 8 months ago

@Jacob
Namaste Brother,
Before going into discussion, we would like you to comment on the ten points made in the article http://agniveer.com/2623/islam-will-not-be-a-threat-if/

We hope that you will agree with the points made there and we can discuss with you about revelations and all.

Jacob
Jacob
5 years 8 months ago
yes i agree!!! so all the points you have shown are what the media propaganda does. show me a single quran verse which says kill the nonbeliver or a convert… in fact: surah al kafirun: surah 109verse1-6 say: o disbelievers! i worship neither that which you worship; nor worship you… Read more »
Arya
Arya
5 years 8 months ago
@Jacob Thank you very much Brother. I have a request, please visit the link I gave you and provide your valuable comments on each point so that every Muslim Brother and sister get some courage to discard the false Hadith and condemn the terrorists like Zakir Naik. Can you believe,… Read more »
Jacob
Jacob
5 years 8 months ago
yes brother its there but why dont you read the whole verse. instead of misinterpreting… it is about the war the pagans waged to kill the prophet at that time.. god commanded to protect themselves by fighting back… this verse was revealed in teh battle field.. read the surah properly..… Read more »
Indian Agnostic
Indian Agnostic
5 years 8 months ago
@Jacob ..when ill you stop lying brother Do you have a single account of Jews or Christiams attacking Mohammed? Mohammed was so cruel towards the the Jews that he escaped from his own quraish people and migrated to Yathrib (which he later renamed to Medina) ..He actually massacred them and… Read more »
Jacob
Jacob
5 years 8 months ago
dear brother, peace be unto you for striving to find the true pathe. but brother you have been brainwashed by your ancestors. what is all this talk about a Zakir Naik MBBS, im not Indian and Im not an arab, Why do you instead of answering my questions, keep insulting… Read more »
Indian Agnostic
Indian Agnostic
5 years 8 months ago
Brother Arya there are many brothers like @Jacob bro who have not gone through their own doctrine completely..(thankfully! as they are as humanatirian as you and me bcoz of this very fact) I hope they really investigate it themselves .i am just contributing a byte ..the rest of it they… Read more »
Arya
Arya
5 years 8 months ago

Brother Indian Agnostic
Superb! Really very informative Brother. Your each comment looks like an independent article with full of information, logic and quotes from the scriptures!

May the efforts of all humanitarians pay off soon.

Indian Agnostic
Indian Agnostic
5 years 8 months ago
[email protected]: peace be unto you for striving to find the true pathe. but brother you have been brainwashed by your ancestors. what is all this talk about a Zakir Naik MBBS, im not Indian and Im not an arab, Why do you instead of answering my questions, keep insulting Zakir… Read more »
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