Vedas and Motion of Planets

Vedas, the first texts of humanity, contain seeds of all forms of knowledge – spiritual or material. And hence it is obvious that there is no possibility of contradiction between claims of Vedas and deductions of science. Unlike other so-called holy texts Vedas do not demand blind belief on unobservable. So there is no blind insistence on belief in any avatar, prophet, god, son of god, mythology or historical claims to avoid some hell-like place and seek some heaven-like holiday spot. On contrary, the Vedic principle is to explore higher levels of truth in most unbiased manner and be honest to the results of this exploration. Science and Vedas go hand in hand.

Thus the approach of Vedas is way different from rest of the religious products with whom Vedas are often wrongly clustered. Vedas do not spoon-feed. They don’t expect you to find truths of nature and world by memorizing certain verses. On contrary, Vedas urge humans to put efforts, conduct experiments, reflect upon those experiments and discover wisdom by making best use of this laboratory called life. And in the journey towards more and more advanced experiments you conduct, Vedas stand with you as a trusted guide, coach and mentor. Vedas don’t answer the questions on your behalf in the examination, like what happens in many corrupt institutions. They help you seek the answers from within yourself in most honest manner.

Being a student of science for major part of my life, the mysteries of universe have always fascinated me. And I have always had great respect and admiration for scientists like Kepler, Newton, Faraday and Einstein whose pursued the unraveling of these mysteries. They are the modern Rishis of their fields who discovered the wisdom within themselves by following the Vedic methods of exploration and gave us the opportunity to be even greater Rishis. And when I dwell into the Vedas, I find them to be my trusted mentors who reinforce the same fundamental truths that were discovered by these wise men. That leads to conclusion that scientific spirit of these legends combined with proactive inspiration from Vedas could be such a powerful combination that could transform the civilization in most wonderful manner – giving methods, direction, efficiency and purpose to all we do and seek to do as humans. 

Here I bring you two interesting Mantras from Rigveda that explain the planetary motion. Swami Dayanand quoted one of them very briefly in his amazing text Rigvedadibhashyabhumika or Introduction to Vedas (available in Downloads section of agniveer.com) more than 130 years ago.  The mantras can have various meanings, as is the case with most Vedic mantras. But I shall explore the straightforward meaning in context of motion of planets.

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The first one is Rigveda 10.149.1.This is one of the several Mantras in Vedas that assert that planets move around sun. It says:

“The sun has tied Earth and other planets through attraction and moves them around itself as if a trainer moves newly trained horses around itself holding their reins.”

In this mantra,
Savita = Sun
Yantraih = through reins
Prithiveem = Earth
Aramnaat = Ties
Dyaam Andahat = Other planets in sky as well
Atoorte = Unbreakable
Baddham = Holds
Ashwam Iv Adhukshat = Like horses

Very clearly, the mantra explains that sun is center of solar system and planets (including earth) move in a closed-loop path around it.

The second one Rigveda 8.12.28 details this motion of planet

“All planets remain stable because as they come closer to sun due to attraction, their speed of coming closer increases proportionately.”

In this Mantra,
Yada Te = When they
Haryataa = Come closer through attraction
Hari = Closeness
Vaavridhate = Increases proportionately
Divedive = continuously
Vishwa Bhuvani = planets of the world
Aditte = eventually
Yemire = remain stable

(The reference to sun comes from rest of the Mantras in this Sukta before and after this mantra)

The mantra clearly states that:

1. Motion of planets around the sun is not circular, even though sun is the central force causing planets to move (Refer previous mantra 10.149.1)

2. The motion of planets is such that Velocity of planets is in inverse relation with the distance between planet and sun.

It can be easily shown with the help of Newton’s Second Law that, for a planet revolving around sun in an elliptical orbit, having distance ‘r’ with sun and angle ‘θ’ made between length ‘r’ and any fixed axis, at any instant, following holds true

From the above, it can be easily shown that derivative of the product of square of distance between sun and planet and rate of change of angle θ, with respect to time, is zero. And thus following relation is obtained (with h as a constant)

Interestingly, the above relation is nothing but the conservation of angular momentum, observed in cases involving Central Forces! If you replace angular velocity with linear velocity, it leads exactly to the same principle that the Vedic mantra 8.12.28 asserts – that velocity of planets is inversely related to distance from sun!

What laws of mechanics and motion can be derived from these principles is something that each of you studying science can explore and be excited about!

But what is wonderful is that the principles are in perfect sync with Kepler’s laws of planetary motion and Newton’s law of gravitation. In fact, if these Vedic principles were known, deriving Kepler and Newton’s laws and hence law of conservation of angular momentum becomes the next easy logical step for an analytical mind!

This is the beauty of Vedas. Vedas and Science are never in contradiction. In fact the foundation of Vedic religion lies in the principle that “True Science and True Religion can never contradict.

Please note that we no way imply that mere analysis of Vedic mantras could lead to any scientific discovery. Because Vedas themselves suggest that without experiments and research in real-world, truth cannot be discovered (Refer Atharvaveda 12.5.1, Yajurveda 1.5 and 19.30). But we do want to imply that Vedas form a wonderful guru who would always stand besides you as a reliable guide. Nothing in Vedas would contradict your rational discoveries. And as you discover more and more, Vedas would make you realize how magnificent that Supreme Power is who is managing this entire universe through such perfect unchangeable laws! Thus Vedas strengthen you from core.

What we presented was just 2 mantras that we chanced to discover with whatever limited intellect we have. But that does seem to indicate that Vedas do merit a more detailed and institutionalized research. We do hope that such researches become reality of tomorrow so that humanity could rise above schism between science and religion, and fights among various blind cults for claiming the title of only true religion. Vedas are the most credible and viable hope for a religion that is in sync with science and excludes any notion of blind belief. This would be the next level of evolution of human civilization.

May we all embrace wisdom and destroy roots of all blindness! May we all evolve!

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  1. Aryan says

    I’m so proud to be an Aryan, a Hindu. The Vedas are the purest form of knowledge in this world. The Rig Veda is millions years old.

    • dave says

      fantastic article, really its a wonder why majority muslims dont bother to get rid of junk like quran and embrace vedas, the ACTUAL word of allah. btw aryan the vedas cant be a millions years old as they are beginningless

    • Aditya says

      Do you still believe in aryan Invasion?
      I heared and read that that theory was rubbished.
      Or the scientific evidences tampered so as to prove that the natives also have same capabilities as the aryans?I still don’t understand why N.Indians are fair in complexion but S.Indians are dark.BTW i am a south Indian Brahamin and Fair in complexion , does this mean my ancestors were aryans?
      BTW i don’t believe the aryan invasion theory.

      • hinduagnostic says

        it is simply because of where your from,climate and sun exposure if you look at people in north side of the world like china,russia etc all look white

      • Ankur says

        @Aditya: Skin Colour has nothing to do with a civilization, the concept of Race as such has been indoctrinated by the Westerners into rest of the world to prove their own superiority and defacto to create a notion that white skin Means a better race, which has no basis what so ever expect in the mind of the westerners & now because of the mind slavery of the indians to “western mentality” for more than a century ,simiarly mindset prevails in most of “ignorant” and “brain washed” modern indians, wich needs to be DESTROYED by knowledge.Do read the book that i have suggested to Hinduagnostic, if possible, it would be a great knowldge booster.

        • Sanjeev says

          Good Explaination, We Should not Believe on Theory Given By Britishers, we have to Believe what our sripture Says

      • says

        Brother Aditya.

        Good that you dont believe in the Aryan Invasion theory….. Its a Rubbish & rape done to our golden past. If there was a time machine & could go back in time, you would have felt cheated today…. we should sue the ministry of education in india.

        We dont have a time machine so the only way to prove to the world that is our effort to revive & re-write the history…..

        Regards

      • Jay says

        Arya is a character trait meaning noble not a race. Max Muller in the 19th century just picked the word Aryan to name a group of what he thought were related languages and he could have picked any word. He could have made up one, say obuligobuli. You would then be asking your self were your ancestors obuligobuli? He was appalled that this arbitrary linguistic designation was turned in his life time into a racial category, he states “an ethnologist who speaks of Aryan race, Aryan blood, Aryan eyes and hair, is as great a sinner as a linguist who speaks of a dolichocephalic dictionary or a brachycephalic grammar” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_M%C3%BCller

    • Mac says

      Roots of Veda: (Indians are a mix of Elamites and Medes people). Adam was still alive when Enoch was born. Enoch is the 7th generation from Adam. He walked with God for 300 years and Bible says: Enoch walked with God for 300 years and was no more because God took him in heaven directly. It is believed that he has become the scribe of God. Noah the 10th generation from Adam.

      Book of Enoch – Chapter 6

      1 And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters.
      2 And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: ‘Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men
      3 and beget us children.’ And Semjaza, who was their leader, said unto them: ‘I fear ye will not
      4 indeed agree to do this deed, and I alone shall have to pay the penalty of a great sin.’ And they all answered him and said: ‘Let us all swear an oath, and all bind ourselves by mutual imprecations
      5 not to abandon this plan but to do this thing.’ Then sware they all together and bound themselves
      6 by mutual imprecations upon it. And they were in all two hundred; who descended in the days of Jared (father of Enoch) on the summit of Mount Hermon, and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn
      7 and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. And these are the names of their leaders: Semazaz, their leader, Araklba, Rameel, Kokablel, Tamlel, Ramlel, Danel, Ezeqeel, Baraqijal,
      8 Asael, Armaros, Batarel, Ananel, Zaqiel, Samsapeel, Satarel, Turel, Jomjael, Sariel. These are their chiefs of tens.

      Chapter 7
      1 And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms
      2and enchantments, and the cutting of roots (herbal medicines), and made them acquainted with plants. And they
      3 became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells (450 feet): Who consumed
      4 all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, the giants turned against
      5 them and devoured mankind. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and
      6 fish, and to devour one another’s flesh, and drink the blood. Then the earth laid accusation against the lawless ones.

      Chapter 8
      1 And Azazel taught men to make swords, and knives, and shields, and breastplates, and made known to them the metals of the earth and the art of working them, and bracelets, and ornaments, and the use of antimony, and the beautifying of the eyelids, and all kinds of costly stones, and all
      2 colouring tinctures. And there arose much godlessness, and they committed fornication, and they
      3 were led astray, and became corrupt in all their ways. Semjaza taught enchantments, and root-cuttings, ‘Armaros the resolving of enchantments, Baraqijal (taught) astrology, Kokabel the constellations, Ezeqeel the knowledge of the clouds, Araqiel the signs of the earth, Shamsiel the signs of the sun, and Sariel the course of the moon. And as men perished, they cried, and their cry went up to heaven . . . Chapter 9
      1 And then Michael, Uriel, Raphael, and Gabriel looked down from heaven and saw much blood being
      2 shed upon the earth, and all lawlessness being wrought upon the earth. And they said one to another: ‘The earth made without inhabitant cries the voice of their cryingst up to the gates of heaven.
      3 And now to you, the holy ones of heaven, the souls of men make their suit, saying, “Bring our cause
      4 before the Most High.”‘ And they said to the Lord of the ages: ‘Lord of lords, God of gods, King of kings, and God of the ages, the throne of Thy glory (standeth) unto all the generations of the
      5 ages, and Thy name holy and glorious and blessed unto all the ages! Thou hast made all things, and power over all things hast Thou: and all things are naked and open in Thy sight, and Thou seest all
      6 things, and nothing can hide itself from Thee. Thou seest what Azazel hath done, who hath taught all unrighteousness on earth and revealed the eternal secrets which were (preserved) in heaven, which
      7 men were striving to learn: And Semjaza, to whom Thou hast given authority to bear rule over his associates. And they have gone to the daughters of men upon the earth, and have slept with the
      9 women, and have defiled themselves, and revealed to them all kinds of sins. And the women have
      10 borne giants, and the whole earth has thereby been filled with blood and unrighteousness. And now, behold, the souls of those who have died are crying and making their suit to the gates of heaven, and their lamentations have ascended: and cannot cease because of the lawless deeds which are
      11 wrought on the earth. And Thou knowest all things before they come to pass, and Thou seest these things and Thou dost suffer them, and Thou dost not say to us what we are to do to them in regard to these.’

      Chapter 10
      1 Then said the Most High, the Holy and Great One spake, and sent Uriel to the son of Lamech,
      2 and said to him: Go to Noah and tell him in my name “Hide thyself!” and reveal to him the end that is approaching: that the whole earth will be destroyed, and a deluge is about to come
      3 upon the whole earth, and will destroy all that is on it. And now instruct him that he may escape 4 and his seed may be preserved for all the generations of the world. And again the Lord said to Raphael: Bind Azazel hand and foot, and cast him into the darkness: and make an opening
      5 in the desert, which is in Dudael, and cast him therein. And place upon him rough and jagged rocks, and cover him with darkness, and let him abide there for ever, and cover his face that he may
      6,7 not see light. And on the day of the great judgement he shall be cast into the fire. And heal the earth which the angels have corrupted, and proclaim the healing of the earth, that they may heal the plague, and that all the children of men may not perish through all the secret things that the
      8 Watchers have disclosed and have taught their sons. And the whole earth has been corrupted
      9 through the works that were taught by Azazel: to him ascribe all sin. And to Gabriel said the Lord: Proceed against the bastards and the reprobates, and against the children of fornication: and destroy [the children of fornication and] the children of the Watchers from amongst men [and cause them to go forth]: send them one against the other that they may destroy each other in
      10 battle: for length of days shall they not have. And no request that they (i.e. their fathers) make of thee shall be granted unto their fathers on their behalf; for they hope to live an eternal life, and
      11 that each one of them will live five hundred years. And the Lord said unto Michael: Go, bind Semjaza and his associates who have united themselves with women so as to have defiled themselves
      12 with them in all their uncleanness. And when their sons have slain one another, and they have seen the destruction of their beloved ones, bind them fast for seventy generations in the valleys of the earth, till the day of their judgement and of their consummation, till the judgement that is
      13 for ever and ever is consummated. In those days they shall be led off to the abyss of fire: and
      14 to the torment and the prison in which they shall be confined for ever. And whosoever shall be condemned and destroyed will from thenceforth be bound together with them to the end of all
      15 generations. And destroy all the spirits of the reprobate and the children of the Watchers, because
      16 they have wronged mankind. Destroy all wrong from the face of the earth and let every evil work come to an end: and let the plant of righteousness and truth appear: and it shall prove a blessing; the works of righteousness and truth shall be planted in truth and joy for evermore.

      17 And then shall all the righteous escape,
      And shall live till they beget thousands of children,
      And all the days of their youth and their old age
      Shall they complete in peace.

      18 And then shall the whole earth be tilled in righteousness, and shall all be planted with trees and
      19 be full of blessing. And all desirable trees shall be planted on it, and they shall plant vines on it: and the vine which they plant thereon shall yield wine in abundance, and as for all the seed which is sown thereon each measure (of it) shall bear a thousand, and each measure of olives shall yield
      20 ten presses of oil. And cleanse thou the earth from all oppression, and from all unrighteousness, and from all sin, and from all godlessness: and all the uncleanness that is wrought upon the earth
      21 destroy from off the earth. And all the children of men shall become righteous, and all nations
      22 shall offer adoration and shall praise Me, and all shall worship Me. And the earth shall be cleansed from all defilement, and from all sin, and from all punishment, and from all torment, and I will never again send (them) upon it from generation to generation and for ever.

      AFTER the flood, only 8 survived, Noah his 3 sons, Shem, Ham and Japheth; and their wives. This is the excerpts from the Book of Jubilees. A Jubilee year is 49 years.

      The Book of Jubilees
      Kâinâm discovers an inscription relating to the sun and stars, 1-4. His sons, 5-8. Noah’s sons and Noah divide the earth, 10-11. Shem’s inheritance, 12-21: Ham’s, 22-4: Japheth’s, 25-30. (Cf. Gen. x.)
      [Chapter 8]

      In the twenty-ninth jubilee, in the first week, [1373 A.M., Anno Mundi, Years since Creation] in the beginning thereof Arpachshad took to himself a wife and her name was Rasu’eja, the daughter of Susan, the daughter of Elam (Indians/Persians), and she bare him a son in the third year in this week, [1375 A.M.] and he called his name Kainam.
      And the son grew, and his father taught him writing, and he went to seek for himself a place where he might seize for himself a city.
      And he found a writing which former (generations) had carved on the rock, and he read what was thereon, and he transcribed it and sinned owing to it; for it contained the teaching of the Watchers (Fallen Angels) in accordance with which they used to observe the omens of the sun and moon and stars in all the signs of heaven.
      And he wrote it down and said nothing regarding it; for he was afraid to speak to Noah about it lest he should be angry with him on account of it.
      And in the thirtieth jubilee, [1429 A.M.] in the second week, in the first year thereof, he took to himself a wife, and her name was Melka, the daughter of Madai (Medes/Persians/North Indians/Punjabis), the son of Japheth, and in the fourth year [1432 A.M.] he begat a son, and called his name Shelah; for he said: ‘Truly I have been sent.’
      [And in the fourth year he was born], and Shelah grew up and took to himself a wife, and her name was Mu’ak, the daughter of Kesed, his father’s brother, in the one and thirtieth jubilee, in the fifth week, in the first year [1499 A.M.] thereof.
      And she bare him a son in the fifth year [1503 A.M.] thereof, and he called his name Eber: and he took unto himself a wife, and her name was ‘Azûrâd, the daughter of Nebrod, in the thirty-second jubilee, in the seventh week, in the third year thereof. [1564 A.M.]
      And in the sixth year [1567 A.M.] thereof, she bare him son, and he called his name Peleg; for in the days when he was born the children of Noah began to divide the earth amongst themselves: for this reason he called his name Peleg.
      And they divided (it) secretly amongst themselves, and told it to Noah.
      And it came to pass in the beginning of the thirty-third jubilee [1569 A.M.] that they divided the earth into three parts, for Shem and Ham and Japheth, according to the inheritance of each, in the first year in the first week, when one of us who had been sent, was with them.
      And he called his sons, and they drew nigh to him, they and their children, and he divided the earth into the lots, which his three sons were to take in possession, and they reached forth their hands, and took the writing out of the bosom of Noah, their father.

      The ancient world before the Noah’s flood was very hi-tech, much more hi-tech than ours.

      • Jay says

        Mac sees the world and everyone in it rigidly through Jewish mythology that Christianity is built upon. There is zero scientific backing to his classification of people based upon Jewish mythology.

    • says

      How old are the age of human life ?
      If you go to back as per today population by the computer it shows only 10,000 years of human life on this earth then how it is possible that rig vedas are million year……..123 or 4
      million year

      • Ravi says

        Advent of computers is itself a few decades ago. Earlier no one would believe about existence of life beyond a few thousands of years. As we advance in science we will be able to understand the eternality of Vedic culture. Today it may appear difficult to comprehend due to our limited capability tn scientific research.

    • swati says

      Aryan, one of the most important line in Hindu dharma is – Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam…or the whole world is one large family. Centuries later, a huge research has proved that the ENTIRE humanity was started from a single group of African family. So basically, even the white skinned Europeans orginally came from Africa…so did we!!

      • says

        Sister,
        Absolutely! But the theory of everyone having an African origin is not so true as the scientists now claim that the origin is in fact from Asia. The only two places in Asia in those days were India and China, with India predating leaps and bounds.

    • N Ram says

      Aryan and Dravidian theories are just fallacies created by Britishers to make us believe that the Vedas and other knowledges were imported from abroad and not we owned. It has been proved. In South (I am from Chennai), we were believing that Ravana was a Dravidian. It is also proved wrong because Ravana was Brahmin from Meerut. He invaded Lanka, won Kubhera and ruled Lanka till death. Don’t believe in Aryan and Dravidian theories. They were created to split Indians as North and South Indians. Let us be proud of Vedas and Bhagavadh Geetha. Nothing in this world can be more prestigious than these two.

      • Krishnarao says

        Namaste N Ram,

        Agreed, Aryan and Dravidian theory was made up. It is bullshit. And you are right Ravana was actually a Brahmin. This has been stated by many.

        Dhanyavad,
        Krishnarao

  2. Netizen says

    Agniveer,

    Thanks for the insightful article.

    Dave,

    Having pride in one’s legacy is useless unless we practice it too. Calling a religion, followed by millions, “junk”, is certainly not advocated by the legacy that this website is based on.

    By doing so we will do disservice to the cause we intend to serve. If we claim to believe in an enlightened worldview than our words and actions should reflect that.

    Here is an excellent article that throws light on the Hindu mindset. http://www.hinduhumanrights.info/hindu-self-defence-some-steps-to-survive/

    • shravak says

      @Netizen

      From your article Elst claims that Agniveer is a bunch of arya samajists on interent, suffering from inferiority complex & they’re falling.

      I don’t know what did he mean by falling, but he is surely misinformed about Agniveer. Agniveer is growing and will remain the best source to attain vedic knowledge.

      Perhaps he should stop writing few random posts on Hindu defence & do something about it. Words without action has no meaning.

    • dave says

      netizen, i dont know what you’re going on about with legacy this and legacy that, im certainly not a proudy person. all i know is that if any book(whethar divine or not) preaches hate towards others than i am not going to advise it to be anything other than junk. and i also think 18 puranns are junk aswell.(apart from portions which are parallel to vedas) However this is my opinion and im entitled to that.

  3. Aditya says

    Respected AgniveerJi!!

    Fantastic article.Waiting for more articles like this.BTW can you add english subtitles for the videos “Science in vedas” because I can’t understand Hindi. Thanks

  4. says

    Sometimes it feels strange to have someone like Agniveer amongst us who talks about Differential Equations involved in Planetary Motions with same ease with which he elaborates subtle concepts of Karma in Philosophy and Religion! It is this spectrum of knowledge spanning Religions and Science Agniveer possesses that forced me join this movement 3 Years ago. Being an IITian, I questioned everything involving many ‘divine’ and ‘scientific’ claims I came across, which many people dont bother to question. I always used to ask my Professors regarding purpose of life and religious leaders regarding Scientific explanations of their miracles and stories. What I found that my Professors shied away from talking about purpose of life and religious apologists ended up threatening me of some hellfire for questioning their miracles. And then I realized that neither divinity is a copyright of self proclaimed Religious Babas/Mullahs/Fathers nor is Science/Scientific Thinking hostage in the labs and minds of IITs and MITs.

    I love Agniveer because it gave me courage to state that Truth is my Dharma and Truth is something that I could understand and feel till this moment. It taught me never to fear any hell. It taught me that I can be the son of God and Scientist at the same time! It is Agniveer alone where I found that Religion and Science have to be one and same!

    I am proud to be an IITian but before that I am a Proud Agniveer…

    Vashi
    Dept of Energy Science
    IIT Bombay

    • Ravi says

      It would be much more enlightening if we know the purpose behind Vedas (knowledge) as quoted in the BG: I am seated in everyone’s heart, and from Me come remembrance, knowledge and forgetfulness. By all the Vedas, I am to be known. Indeed, I am the compiler of Vedänta, and I am the knower of the Vedas. (BG 15.15)

  5. says

    Clear and concise. It will be great indeed when the truths laid out in Vedas are spread across like the very air, when all the humans come to know of it, conduct experiments and proclaim their discoveries, then mankind will truly be evolved.

    Thanks Sanjeev and Agniveer for this wonderful article.

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    Team GnanaBoomi

  6. Rajat nagar says

    Thanx for such a great information about Our great civilization and ever growing culture,
    But unfortunately for more then 500 years,we are Exploited & misled about our own culture and Vedic gyan.firstly we are dominated by Mugals & then Brits…who Destroyed our culture social Structure & Educational system.More over Brits wrote Indian history in there own interest & Favor which is not correct,recent studies & Archeological excavations scientifically proved that Indian culture Older then what they have ever thought of some (9 thousand to 12 thousand years) which proves to some ware near 32thousand years( Archeological excavations of under water Dwarka & Many sites where River saraswati was once originated) …..keep posting Jai Hind

    • says

      Rajeevdamodharan
      Any one in this world belonging to any sect or faith can become brahmin.

      SURPRISED

      Reason is that we have created image of a person being called as A brahmin who is semi bald, who wears yajnopavit and dhoti, who chants sanskrit mantra and performs karmkands.

      but in reality brahmin is a person who is learned, who possess intellect, who bears good character, who daily conduct is fine.

      now tell me can a muslim or christian cannot transform himself into a brahmin or not?

    • shravak says

      Moreover, Agniveer movement is about spreading vedic knowledge. And those who are in pursuit of knowing truth are called as ‘Brahmins’. So, Agniveer’s job is to make brahmins, similiarly like Indian Army’s is to make kshatriyas.

  7. one dharm says

    can anyone tell me if the mantra “hare ram hare ram ram ram hare……
    is in vedas, and if yes what context is it used in. and also are these the same ram and krishna of the epics??

    • hinduagnostic says

      no they are not because vedas does not mention any avatars later texts say rama and krishna were god its believed by arya samaj that god of the whole material world doesnt have no reason to come to earth when he already has given us the vedas

  8. Prithvi says

    thanks agniveerji for ur scientific information , really vedas are knowledge provider and full of intellectual concepts every indian and hindu must read it

  9. rajeev says

    The Interesting thing is that RV when talking about the SUN, talks about its 7 horses which concides with the 7 Colors overlapping to create Light or Sun Rays. I am surprised that they were able to understand that 7 Colours consittue and make white Sunlight or it was just a guess by looking at Rainbow.

    Secondly also while Describing Visnu in RV they talked about the 1 Solar year with 360 days(90 days X 4 seasons). This is also intresting to me how they were analyzing the Cyclic nature of Season and Days..

    One thing I don’t understand that “0(zero) has been introduced offlate then how are they able to make up these numbers of 360 days etc….

  10. Sanseh says

    Why Hindus don’t defend themselves. I just watched Devon Ke Dev and got reminded of a startling fact of biology that whales are dependent of cows or have common ancestors so the whale. The bull nandhi took the form of an monster fish(whale because he is mammal) which wrecked havoc and was the cause of poverty her marriage to lord shiva, In her birth as the daughter of an fisherman. Does not this both verify the science is true , or the history of Hindus is so exact that it records the transformation of cows to whales.Wow no other religion has discovered science before science or even get one fact right. The verified history of Hindus verified by science( logic and rational).

    • Sanseh says

      Why Hindus don’t defend themselves. I just watched Devon Ke Dev and got reminded of a startling fact of biology that whales are Descendant of cows or have common ancestors so the whale. The bull nandi took the form of an monster fish(whale because he is mammal) which wrecked havoc and was the cause of parvati her marriage to lord shiva, In her birth as the daughter of an fisherman. Does not this both verify the science is true , or the history of Hindus is so exact that it records the transformation of cows to whales.Wow no other religion has discovered science before science or even get one fact right. The verified history of Hindus verified by science such coincidence of facts a rarity of rarity an recorded history of creation of whales..

  11. u c panwar says

    VEDAS ARE OCEAN OF SCIENCE. AS REGARDS PLANETS, EVERY PLANET AND MOON HAVE GOOD ATMOSPHERE TO LIVE.
    1. MAHARISHI DAYANAND EXPLAINED IN SATYARTHA PRAKASH.
    2. FORMATION GOES ON – AAKASH,VAYA,AGNI,JAL AND EARTH.SO PLANET HAVING EARTH HAS TO BE WITH WATER, VAYA AND AGNI
    3. WITH OUT WATER & ATMOSPHERE , PLANET CAN NOT EXIST BECAUSE IT WILL BREAK INTO PIECES.
    4. RECENTLY CHANDRAYAN RESEARCH EXPLORED THAT MOON IS HAVING FROZEN WATER, ICE FORM. AS PER SCIENCE ICE CAN NOT EXIST IF IT IS NOT HAVING GOOD ATMOSPHERIC PRESSURE. SO EARTH MOON IS HAVING REQUIRED WATER AND ATMOSPHERE. IT IS WELL SUITABLE FOR LIFE AND IS HAVING CIVILISED POPULATION.
    VEDAS PROVE IT.
    EITHER AMRICANS DO NOT HAVE ALL TRUTHS ABOUT MOON OR THEY HIDE IT

    MOON HAVE LIFE AND REQUIRED ELEMENTS

  12. AD says

    Sir, where did you get this translation for these verses? Other places give completely different translations and also there is no mention of ‘sun’ in the verse. (hari should mean sun? or adityae can also be a reference to sun?)
    I want to use this in a video/article but am not at all convinced about the translation. Plz clarify…

    • krishnarao says

      These Vedic translations are some of the most accurate out there. I am not an expert, but many of the other translations are very wrong. Because many of the translators do not know Sanskrit very well. They usually use Max Muller’s method. Which is an European missionary extremist.

      • AD says

        The thing is, even if I personally do not doubt these translations – but when putting them in a video/article (which many jihadis and christians will see and try to debunk) I do not anybody to accuse us hindus of ‘changing or manipulating the meanings retrospectively to fit in with modern science’.

        It would be great if these translations have a well-known name/author behind them.

        • says

          These are based on established Sanskrit lexicon. You can have them vetted from any Sanskrit scholar. We used Introduction to Vedas by Swami Dayanand to explore the meanings. Beyond that, it has to be individual choice to use it, verify it or ignore it.

          • AD says

            Thank you very much for your reply. You mention in the article that one of the verses has been briefly mentioned in Introduction to Vedas by Dayanand Saraswatiji. Is it the 2nd verse? Is that how he translated it? If so then that would be awesome – because then it would lend a lot more credebility into it…
            I think I can use it otherwise too. Thanks :)

  13. P.C. Shrimali says

    very good article.
    This is great service towards the knowledge the vedic literature, to the new generation who are ignorant of our glorious past…

  14. arka mondal says

    the post is flawed.the translations of the two places of rig veda are inaccurate and taken out of context.cross check for yourself.

    • Ankur says

      @Mondal : could you be kind enough to let us know seeing what translations did you conclude this, or are you a nirukta, nighantu scholar to translate the verses correctly?

  15. kowshik says

    the hare krishna chanting mantra is in “kali samtarno”text.i don’t sure whether it is puran or upanishad.u can find it in wikipedia.vedas don’t mention about rama and krishna coz vedas came befor many years of them.in ramayan it is also said”lob kush learnt vedas”
    when krishna came-the identity of the boy of vrindabon was still unknown to other demigods.in fact also to shiva ans brahma.may be krisna was also unknown to the vedas writers!!!

  16. vikas pareek says

    agniveer (four vedas) vol.14 by pandit harisharan sidhaantalankar I need so please inform me earleast my mobile no. 09413210888

  17. sanjeevi says

    Dear Agniveer

    Good day.

    I am from Malaysia and need to find out whether the vedas book ( english transalation) available in any Malaysian book store? Kindly advice. I needed it urgently.

      • KAPIL DEV SONI says

        अग्निवीर ..

        आपका कार्य बहुत ही सराहनीय है।

        बहुत से सवाल थे दिल में जो अब धीरे धीरे ख़तम हो रहे है…

        अहसान है आपका ….

  18. vedas says

    in the vedas it says that the earth has pegs around it and pillars around it. Also it says there are three earths.

    refer to
    yajur veda 14.5
    atharva veda 8.4.11
    yajur veda 5.16

    • Krishnarao says

      Homie,

      You can’t just come on here and point to some random verses in the Vedas that state some BS statement.

      1. Give us the full verse, write it out.
      2. Give us the verse before and after.
      3. Give us the translator.
      4. Give us the name of the group that supports that translation.
      5. Give us the publisher of that translation.
      6. Give us the location where we can get a copy of that translation with your allegations.

      It’s easy to make claims and allegations, time to back your statements up. Be an adult instead of hide.

      Krishnarao

      • Krishnarao says

        I have a copy of the Yajur Veda. Translated by Devi Chand. Published by Sarvadeshik Arya PratinidhiSabha. Supported by the Arya Samaj group.

        14.5 “O, Wife I, thy learned husband, engaged in in the performance of noble deeds, established thee on the surface of the earth, as mistress of the house, thee, the recipient of deathless mental knowledge, the mainstay of all directions, the guardian of the house, the place of bearing children. I [God] establish thee on the earth like the rays of sun, as mistress of the house. Thou art pleasant like the wave of waters. May the learned teachers and preachers, the performers of sacrifice for self-protection, establish thee in this domestic life.”

        5:16 : O, Omnipresent God, Thou preservest on all sides, with knowledge, this earth rich in nice food, rich in good milch-kine, and full of elements and compounds. THou preservest the Vedic speech and created-world. We all implore for the whole world to Him [God], Who is All-knowing and Chastister.

        As you can see, there is nothing about pegs and other nonsense in them.

    • Krishnarao says

      And for the verse I did not provide the translation for:

      English translation by Dr. Tulsi Ram M.A., Ph.D.

      Exclusive Digital Distributor: Agniveer
      Supported by Agniveer group

      Atharva Veda: 8.4

      “O man, rise up high from here, never move downwards. Rise breaking yourself from the fetters of death. Never sever yourself from the beautiful world, light of the sun and the vital warmth of the fire that life is.

      Nothing about pegs or other nonsense here.

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