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I am an ex-armyman. I was stationed in Kashmir in mid-nineties. This was the same period when hordes of militants from across the border infiltrated in Kashmir to spread terror. Lashkar-e-Taiba, Harkat-ul-Mujahideen, Hizb-ul-Mujahideen and scores of other terrorist groups were having a free-for-all rampage in Kashmir. They would infiltrate from Pakistan, recruit cadre, take them to Pakistan for training, bring them back and perform heinous acts of terror.
This was the same period when half a million Kashmiri Hindus and Sikhs were massacred and forced to flee the valley.
This was the same period when Kashmir burnt under fundamentalism. It was next to impossible to differentiate between a peaceful nationalist and a killing-machine.
Whenever a cricket match would happen between India and Pakistan, Pakistani flags would wave across the valley as if we were sitting in heart of Pakistan. Any minority voice who dared to wave the Indian flag would be silenced immediately by militants.
It was during such a reign of terror, that Indian Army had to douse the fire in Kashmir with their own blood.
If someone suffered most severe human-rights violation in history of mankind, it was the Indian Army in Kashmir. We left our families in different parts of India and survived under harshest of conditions. For days we would sleep over guns in harsh climate and remotest locations just to keep tab on infiltrating militants. Anyone of us could be bombed away in a sudden attack of fundamentalism. Innumerable among us lost our lives. I lost my hand like so many others who lost their limbs or eyes. To die in a bomb blast was considered lucky. Because if you chanced to be captured by the militants, you would be slowly and mercilessly tortured to death. Militants and their supporters took pride in this gruesome ‘halal’ ritual.
Remember Saurabh Kalia? He is definitely not as popular as Vishal Bharadwaj or Shahid Kapoor. Because he was not a film star who made money by exploiting national interests. He was a humble Indian soldier who gave his life for motherland. He was captured by fundamentalists along with 5 more soldiers. They were taken across Line of Control and tortured as a religious ritual.
Pakistan army tortured their prisoners by burning their bodies with cigarettes, piercing ear-drums with hot rods, puncturing eyes before removing them, breaking most of the teeth and bones, fracturing the skull, cutting the lips, chipping the nose, chopping off limbs and private organs of these soldiers besides inflicting all sorts of physical and mental tortures and finally shooting them dead after twenty-two days, as evidenced by the bullet wound to the temple.
This made the killers “Ghazi” – who as per these fundamentalists gets highest number of most beautiful virgins in Heaven. All you need to do to be a Ghazi is to celebrate killing of a non-believer.
These five soldiers were after all the worst of creatures in world in eyes of jihadis. They were Indians, soldiers and idol-worshippers. What could be greater sin!
I was lucky because I could have been in Saurav’s place. Had I not lost my hand, instead of Saurav Kalia, I would have been ‘halal’ed to make someone Ghazi.
This was the same period when Indian Army made greatest sacrifice to save India and humanity from reign of death and blood.
And it is the same period around which the film “Haider” by Vishal Bharadwaj, Shahid Kapoor and anti-India jihadi writer Basharat Peer has been made and adored by “critics”.
No struggle for liberation in Kashmir
Everyone on ground knows that there is no struggle for liberation of Kashmiris in Kashmir. If that had been so, why native Kashmiri Pandits would have been massacred?
You need to spend just a few days in the valley to understand the true nature of struggle that lies hidden under this garb of Kashmiriyat.
It is simply a ploy to extend the reaches of Islamic fundamentalism. The same fundamentalism of Al-Qaeda and ISIS that is shaking the entire world.
Kashmiri militants are brainwashed to believe that they will go to Paradise only after India is conquered by an army of Jihadis. Listen to speeches of Masood Azhar, founder of Jaish-e-Muhammad. He talks of Ghazwa-e-Hind prophecy where Prophet made conquest of India a precondition for opening doors of Heaven.
In name of religion, the same poison is spread in minds of Kashmiri youth to make them militants.
Go and ask opinion of any Kashmiri liberation member. No one will say that idol-worshipper can also be a good human blessed by Allah. On contrary, they believe that idol-worshippers are worst of creatures. The real hatred is against non-Muslims because as per them, their version of Islam is the only acceptable religion. All non-Muslims must convert to Islam or deserve hatred. This is exactly the same ideology that ISIS and Al-Qaeda follow.
The war against terror is a war against this fanatic mindset. None other than the Indian Army has sacrificed more to fight this war. We fought not only with arms but with love and service. The flood relief efforts in Kashmir in recent past is a clear example of the same.
Enemy within and outside
Yet Indian Army continues to face bullets from enemies and abuses from family. Today, on one side Pakistan is targeting Indian Army and minority locations in Kashmir with bullets. And around the same time, our own country-men create a film like “Haider” that paints Indian Army a villain.
On one hand, flags of ISIS are waved in Kashmir, and at same time, “critics” laud anti-nationalism of Haider as marvel of art.
Such co-incidences give ample evidence that somehow our enemies and certain elements from within our country consistently orchestrate great timing and coordination among each other that it is hard to believe that it was just a mere coincidence.
In Army, we are trained to observe such remarkable coincidences, understand what goes behind, and yet silently sacrifice ourselves for the mission of nation.
Haider shook me to core
I have myself faced irrepairable loss in saving motherland from anti-national militants. And my fellow armymen have made much larger sacrifices for the same cause. Thus the film Haider shook me to core.
It made me question for the first time – Whom are we fighting for? Whom are we defending? The same people who could make this film because of Army’s protection collude with an anti-national Jihadi writer to make a villain of Indian Army?
Is this the reward of our sacrifices that we continue to make? Are commercial gains and so-called artistic expression more important than motherland and humanity?
What if we had not fought terrorism by tooth and nail in nineties? What if we had not arrested the spread of terror to other parts of country through our own lives?
With friends like this, who needs enemies?
This is not a film-critics review. This is a review from perspective of an armyman, a lover of humanity and a son of India. A true secular who refuses to believe that God hates idol-worshippers so much that they will go to Hell. And aspires to fight against ideology that directly or indirectly nurtures such fundamentalist elements.
This is not rhetoric in jingoism
Unlike Haider, which is an experiment in fundamentalism, don’t consider the article to be a rhetoric in jingoism.
Yes, I love my country. I love my country more than I love anything else in life. I love my country not because I was born here or I am a native of this nation. It is not because I love the design of the map of India. It is because its timeless cultural and philosophical heritage that is built on core foundations of tolerance, acceptance and justice. So jingoism has no place for a nationalist and son of soil.
My nationalism does not make me aspire to conquer the whole world. It inspires me to enlighten the whole world. It inspires me to promote brotherhood across the globe and strive for “One World, One Family.” It inspires me to make India lighthouse of the world. I joined Indian Army not to conquer the world, but nurture and protect Peace that defines foundation of India.
I am not a movie-watcher. My mission never allowed me the luxury to fit movies or serials in my priority-list. But I made an exception for Haider.
Summary Review of Haider
While I will provide details later, let me state upfront – I find “Haider” to be a shameless commercialization of anti-nationalism.
No its not a rhetoric. This is the most “polite” way in which I can summarize the review of this film.
The more “practical” review summary is already being demonstrated by my Indian Army by appropriate retaliation to Pakistani misadventure of cross-border firing. Salutes to my Army for this. Am proud to lose my arm for you. And regret that I could not gift my life for you.
The Detailed Review of Haider
A. This is perhaps the first anti-Indian film that has been produced in India by Indians. Just as the film producers chose to showcase Army as criminals, I would prefer to call the film-maker and its sympathizers Jaichands.
B.The film has been written by Basharat Peer – a Kashmiri separatist based out of New York. Basharat Peer is well acclaimed for his hatred of India. He lived, studied and made career from what India gave him. But in influence of fanaticism, fundamentalism and perhaps some money, he chose to hate India. He openly claims that he holds an Indian Passport only due to compulsion.
Of course it is a pity that Vishal Bhardwaj and Shahid Kapoor and the rest of the gang who eat their bread from India chose to select a vocal anti-national to write their plot.
No, Basharat Peer is not a professional film writer. On contrary, this is his first such project.
In garb of producing Shakespeare’s Hamlet, the film team has done what Jaichand or Mir Zafar did, all for petty commercial gains.
C. The film has a clear anti-India tone. The protagonist is son of a doctor who also is a member of militant gang of Kashmiri separatists. The wife and brother of the doctor report presence of terrorists in home to military. Military catches the doctor and kills all the militants. The hero “Haider” is supposed to take revenge for this.
In entire film, all dialogues and all characters make one clear assumption – that anything and anyone who supports India is a bad guy. Anything and anyone who hates India or Indian Army or is a militant is a good guy.
The greatest crime of bad guys is that they believe in Indian democracy or chose to support Indian Army instead of militants.
D. Indian Army is shown to be tyrants. They torture even innocents brutally. In one scene, they castrate a young man during torture even though they knew he was innocent. The fact remains that despite all allegations, no evidence has been found of Indian Army torturing any innocent.
E. In one scene, Army asks all militants to shout “Jai Hind”. The father of Haider refuses to shout so, and hence is punished. In anger, he asks his companion to inform his son that he must take revenge for all this. Thus a “hero” is born from Haider whose only agenda in life is to kill those who love India. This continues without remorse till end of the film.
There is no mention of the fact that thousands or even lakhs of militants had infiltrated India during the same period. Only an anti-national can complain about use of “Jai Hind” to segregate militants from ordinary citizens. I can understand Basharat Peer to have hatred against “Jai Hind”. But why Shahid Kapoor and Vishal Bharadwaj?
For humble soldiers like me, “Jai Hind” is the only call for which we live and die. This alone is our mantra, our kalma, our slogan.
F. In last scene, after all killing and destruction, the hero heads towards Pakistan.
G. In the interim, there is an incoherent monologue by Haider on how India cheated Kashmiris and has illegally occupied Kashmir. He raises slogan among public who shout back that they want independence from India. This anti-India speech is supposedly a high-point of the film.
H. Kashmiri women have been portrayed as lose characters. Haider’s mother starts sleeping with her brother-in-law immediately after she gets her husband arrested by military for hiding militants. And immediately after death of her husband is confirmed, she marries. Further, she has questionable feelings for her son which is exemplified by unnecessary kiss scenes.
I.Another Kashmiri woman, Haider’s girlfriend is shown to have utter disdain for her religion. She refuses to touch Quran for vow and instead decides to sleep with Haider despite objections from her brother and father. She is confused between her love for Haider and love for India. And that confusion leads to problems for Haider.
J. These are the only two women in the film. Basharat Peer has played a very smart move here. It is evident that he has insulted Islam as well as denigrated Kashmiri women apart from insulting India. His real goal is not the benefit of Kashmiris. He seems to be inspired by Pakistan instead. That is why the hero finally leaves for Pakistan. Any Muslim who has slightest soft-corner for India is shown as negative.
K. In fact there is another set of characters who mimic Salman Khan – an Indian actor. They are shown to be friends of Haider who turn traitors and try to kill him under orders of police. But Haider kills them instead.
L. The father of Haider’s girlfriend is shown to be a spineless policeman who knows India is wrong in illegally capturing Kashmir and yet works against “Kashmiri freedom fighters”. He is the one who gives illegal orders to kill Haider in encounter.
M. There is a repeated use of word “Chutzpah”. It serves two purposes. First it fulfills the fetish of film crew to speak out an abusive word indirectly. Secondly, it is supposed to rhyme with AFSPA – Armed Forces Special Powers Act – that gives special powers to Army in Kashmir to fight terrorists. In one scene, Haider is seen mocking AFSPA along with his friends by mentioning it along side Chutzpah. It is used to ridicule India’s ‘illegal’ control over Kashmir.
The director ignores the fact that Chutzpah is a Hebrew word that is pronounced as “Hutspah” or “Khutspah” and not with “CH” as director’s fetish propelled him.
The irony is that AFSPA alone is the reason why the makers of Haider could make the film today!
N. Even apart from the obvious focus on anti-Indianism, there is nothing that the movie offers apart from long yawns and drags. There are scenes and situations where one is confused whether to laugh or take seriously. For example, two comedians who mimic Salman Khan suddenly turn villains. Some elderly grave-diggers near Pakistan border suddenly start singing and dancing out of context. They are revealed to be militants later.
O.There is a song “Bismil” where idol of “Satan” has been put on gates of Martand Temple in Anantnag and the hero sings and dances like devil. It is an obvious reference to the oldest Sun temple of world being a haven of Satan. After the song, hero attempts to kill his uncle. Several Hindu organizations have protested against this insulting depiction of a revered temple. The fact is that this temple represents the original “Kashmiriyat” that is being crushed under militancy and hatred.
P. The hero refers to Anantnag as Islamabad repeatedly when an army-man asks his destination. This is an obvious reference to affection for capital of Pakistan and refusal to speak the original Hindu/ Kashmiri name of the town in Kashmir.
The film makes no mention of the fact that the name Kashmir comes from Rishi Kashyap – one of the most revered Sapta Rishis as per Hinduism. The name Anantnag comes from Ananta of Naga tribe, who also happened to be son of Rishi Kashyap. Both these words predate “Islamabad” and the demands for separation of Kashmir by thousands of years. Kashmir has been the most important center of Shaiva philosophy – one of the most important components of Hinduism – way before even religion was born.
Q. The movie claims to highlight the ‘Kashmir cause’ but the makers restricted themselves to Indian Kashmir only completely forgetting the Pakistan and Chinese Occupied Kashmir and rights of Kashmiris therein. Perhaps because it was again the Indian Army alone that allowed these snakes to shoot the movie in its area which was not possible in China or Pakistan. And in the end, the snakes bit the hands that fed them. Makers of Haider left no stone unturned to demonize Indian Army but not a single word has been uttered against the rogue Pakistani Army or Chinese PLA.
R. Soft corner for separatists but not even a single mention of ethnic cleansing of half a million Kashmiri Hindus from valley in 1989 in whole movie. Clear attempt of fueling false sense of victim-hood among the already radicalized separatists but deliberately hiding the real Kashmiri issues. It is clearly the Pakistani line on Kashmir that the makers of Haider have toed. The movie complains that army would inspect, threaten and torture Kashmiris. But movie offers no solution to how else the army should have dealt with those who hide militants in home, hate India, are ashamed to say ‘Jai Hind’ and has every other member in family as a militant or receiving terror-training in Pakistan. When thousands of militants have infiltrated the border, Pakistani flags are waved en-masse during Indo-Pak match, and half a million non-Muslims are killed or forced to flee, what else can army do to stop terror from killing more innocent lives? It does not matter whether it is Kashmir or Kanyakumari. If any person or group supports terrorists, or has family members indulged in terrorism, or are ashamed to say “Jai Hind”, then they deserve most thorough scrutiny and punishments. This is necessary to contain terrorism. This is not human rights violation. This is protection of human rights of innocent millions.
In general this movie has one agenda – to portray the following as villains:
- Muslims who love India
- Women who love India
- Hindus who love India
- Armymen who love India
- Kashmiris who love India
Conclusion
No I don’t call for ban on the film. The era of information control through bans is far over.
What I call for is to use this film as a lever to educate our fellow Indians and world about Kashmir. How militants destroy peace in Kashmir, how Pakistan destroys peace in Kashmir, how filmmakers mock true Kashmiris, true Muslims and true Hindus, how paid journalists like Basharat Peer bring bad name for Kashmir as well as India despite being Kashmiri. And how Indian Army has made greatest sacrifices in history of humanity to protect peace in Kashmir.
It is time to create national awakening on Kashmir issue, fight Pakistan and Kashmiri separatists in most ruthless manner to bring peace in valley and India. Indian Army is doing a fabulous job on the border. Lets do within the border and internationally to support their sacrifices.
Many critics and “experts” have claimed that “Haider” is a bold masterpiece. One reason why many frustrated minds are calling it masterpiece is obvious – despite their predictions, a so-called right-wing party came to power with absolute majority in recent elections. This is despite their top-of-the-mouth out-of-the-court pronouncement of judgement that the incumbent Prime Minister is a mass-murderer. Somehow public could not be conned by these fake allegations. And the massive victory frustrated them to core. So they will leave no option to proclaim any junk as masterpiece so far it is against the proclaimed stand of incumbent party. In case of Kashmir, it is also clear that this stand of zero-tolerance for militancy in Kashmir is also voice of people.
As far as it being a “bold” movie, I fully agree. It is indeed a bold experiment. Almost as bold as Pakistan’s recent bold experiment of cross-border firing in Kashmir. Or their “chutzpah” in 1947, 1965, 1971 and 1998 that eventually bankrupted the rogue country.
And I agree that such boldness be better countered with even more boldness.
Please note that I am not against Pakistanis or Kashmiris who are fed up with violence. My love for nation makes every peace-lover in the world my best friend. But for sake of this peace, my love for nation calls for total annihilation of those forces or voices that promote militancy in any manner whatsoever.
As far as liberation of Kashmir is concerned, all this talks about plebicite or Nehru’s promise in 1948 is completely irrelevant. It was a blunder that few weak voices were allowed to partition the country whose borders have been decided since ages by nature and which nurtures the oldest civilization and culture of world uninterrupted till date.
No more partition can be tolerated. Period. If majority in Kashmir want separation, then the same rule should apply to every house, every lane, every mohalla of India. Tomorrow I may claim that 6 people of my home want to be independent country – we form full majority – hence grant us freedom. This is foolish talk.
Kashmir was always integral part of India. And shall remain so. The entire drama of separatism in Kashmir is a ploy to annexe a major part of India for fundamentalism – in lines of ISIS and Al Qaeda. The whole world is seeing results of rise of this fundamentalism. It is time we join together to crush it.
If a few silly films like Haider come up to rake up and further the cause of fundamentalists, we must use them as well to further the agenda of peace, tolerance and integral India.
My humble appeal would be to not waste your time and money watching such anti-national “pseudo-intellectual purgation”. Better donate it for Indian Army or PM Relief Fund to help Kashmiris suffering from floods and ignite the cause of nation.
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This article is dedicated to Indian Army which has scripted the most befitting review of “Haider” and all such anti-national antics through its valor in Kashmir. My salutes to these heroes of nation.
Jai Hind. Vande Mataram
For second review of “Haider” by the Soldier, please read http://agniveer.com/the-soldier-reviews-haider-again/This article is also available in Hindi here
All the people who criticize Indian Army, should serve in Army in the same harsh conditions fighting terrorists, at least for a day before they can criticize.
I completely agree to what is explained. This amazing article says everything that I wanted to say on my reiew for Haider. Here is my review written is oct 8 after watching the movie.
Haidar 1.5/5
Does it really makes any sense of glorifying terrorism to make a film stands out?
Keeping aside the original story, the cinematic start of the film promises to give you an extra ordinary experience and fails its good pace and charm within first 30 mins.
Pathetically composed songs, poor storytelling (in fact the story goes nowhere) and sudden end of the film leaves no mark in your mind, But yes, this can inspire some mindless youth (who thinks Pakistan is their land) to join hands with terrorist groups.
A film cannot change the society but it doesn’t provide a license to promote issues (like terrorism) that are against humanity.
The film is completely wrong is all aspects considering the critical situation in Iraq and Syria. I am highly disappoint with Vishal Bharadwaj’s Haidar. Neither its an entertaining film nor it contains any positive content.
I’m going very wise 1.5 out of 5 for its avg performances and cinematography.
please watch bang bang and new movie has come up !!! HAPPY NEW YEAR 😛 these kind of movies are best for you 😛
I dont know much about Bang Bang or HNY. When you are sure about the verdicts that means you have watched them. Keeping this side of story aside, I must remind you I have mentioned “your category” on my review, if you cannot find it read it again and again and my review of the film is not for film illiterates so you can ignore it.
TO AGNIVEER agni
Only point Acceptable is
Indian Army made greatest sacrifice to save India and humanity from reign of death and blood.
What indian army brought in kashmir no army in the world can bring this change in any disputed territory !
Points baseless By author with explanations in language understandable to all !!!
1.”Everyone on ground knows that there is no struggle for liberation of Kashmiris in Kashmir”
kashmiris think army dont care about us , and army thinks people dont care !!!
well then how come kashmiris will answer for love for motherland !!!
to dear agniveer ji please elaborate us what islaam says about duties towards motherland !!
according to you kashmiri muslims must be following that ?
Please elaborate us how many innocent kashmiris have died ?
not because of army but because of circumstances due to kashmir issue !
2nd point by Agniveer
“On contrary, they believe that idol-worshippers are worst of creatures.
The real hatred is against non-Muslims because as per them, Islam is the only acceptable religion.
All non-Muslims must convert to Islam or deserve hatred.
This is exactly the same ideology that ISIS and Al-Qaeda follow”
Dear Agniveer ji , this is the only ideology of ISIS and Al-Qaeda !!! please understand the fact that in islam there is a word called kaafir
which is misinterpreted by muslims and many teachers as hindus,christian, etc but real meaning is a person who believes
theres no god , no bhagwaan , no allah !!!thats kaafir !!! now problem with society is indian muslims have seen hindus only so they misterm them as kaafir which is wrong
ISIS and Alqaida dont give a damn about what Quran says they misuse this !!! muslim means one thing a person who submits his/her to god !!! thats it nothing more !!!
kaafir means who dont belive in god !! idol worships is prohibited in islaam asin bible and some verses of geeta but worst of creatures that is not mentioned anywhere in Quran !! true ?
islaam says god is one ? true islaam says god is one true ?
From Vedas
Prohibition of Idol Worship in Yajurveda
“There is no image of him. He is unborned and He should be worshipped” (Yajurveda, Chapter 32, Verse 3)
“God is bodyless and pure” (Yajurveda, Chapter 40, Verse 8)
“They are entering darkness, those who worship the natural things(like air, water, fire etc.), they are sinking more in darkness who worship created things.” (Yajurveda, Chapter 40, Verse 9)
Monotheism in Rigveda
“Say this, all one God in many names” (Rigveda, Book 1, Hymn 164, Verse 46)
“Do not worship anyone besides him alone, praise him alone” (Rigveda, Book 8, Hymn 1, Verse 1)
“Praise him would matchless and alone” (Rigveda, Book 6, Hymn 45, Verse 16)
3. From Bhagavad Gita
“Those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires, they worship demigods” (Bhagavad Gita, Chapter 7, Verse 20)
4. From Upanishad
Prohibition of Idol Worship in Upanishad
“There is no likeness of him” (Svetasvatara Upanishad, Chapter 4, Verse 19)
“His form cannot be seen, No one can see him with the eyes” (Svetasvatara Upanishad, Chapter 4, Verse 20)
Monotheism in Upanishad
“God is one and only, not a second” (Chandogya Upanishad, Chapter 6, Section 2, Verse 1)
“Of him (God), there is no parents, no Lord” (Svetasvatara Upanishad, Chapter 6, Verse 9)
Monotheism in Vedantha
“There is only one god, Not a second one, not at all, not at all, not in a least bit” (Brahma Sutra)
Dear Aziz,
The Things which you are trying to bring forwards by quoting various texts of vedas and Upanishads, could be a good thing for a comparative religion. However, the essence of Hindu faith is flexibility and accommodation of all ideas..
3rd point by agniveer ji for movie
“G. In the interim, there is an incoherent monologue by Haider on how India cheated Kashmiris and has illegally occupied Kashmir.
He raises slogan among public who shout back that they want independence from India.”
Dear Agniveerji , haider just showed the mindset of kashmir due to millitancy and reality which a common kashmiri feel, he never mentioned cheated by india ,
he never said army killed my father in entire movie , he never said independence from India !!!
Independence from the situation, hadtaal, curfew, crackdown , terrorist attacks , firing to live freely ,enjoying all the fundamental right !!
it could be because of Indian army for good cause of course or millitancy ! why a normal kashmiri should sacrifice his childhood because pakistaan wants india ??
why if some people/fundamentalist/leader/ terrorist group calls it independence from india you say they all hate india ??? why ???
why dont you see kashmiris who are themselves in army , airforce , navy , IAS, IPS, ministers and majority in kashmir who already have moved on !!
please see the positive side !!!
when i was a kid i use to shake hand with army jawans outside my school in kashmir , I use to feel proud i was attracted to the gun , i never understood why hes standing here in sun all day with so heavy armour and Gun!!!
People in 1992-96 never used to ask water to them due to fear if they will give him water millitants would kill them !! people were scared it is not that they never wanted to or they hate them !!
Politics was so bad at that time due to so many infiltrations from across the border !! no one knew if someone is local or from PAK !!!anyways thats history now !! as i last visited 2012
!!! and no such boycott or no such hatred is there !!! jawans know local areas and people and they eat in homes !!! no fear !! things changed for good !! have courtesy to accept it !!!
4th point
“H. Kashmiri women have been portrayed as lose characters
I Another Kashmiri woman, Haider’s girlfriend is shown to have utter disdain for her religion. She refuses to touch Quran for vow
J It is evident that he has insulted Islam as well as denigrated Kashmiri women apart from insulting India”””
STRONGLY DISAGREE OTHERWISE THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN PROTESTS IN THE VALLEY 🙂 BECAUSE NOW THINGS HAS CHANGED !!!
this makes me think are you really ex soldier Indian Army !!! Sir kuch toh socho ? i mean kahan se ??? kuch bhi ???:0 🙂
you yourself said she refuses to touch for vow because she dint want to ?
5th point
Just for the matter of Fact
THIS MOVIE DOESNOT HAVE ANY HERO OR VILLIAN STOP SEEING BOLLYWOOD MOVIES IN THAT CONTEXT
THIS MOVIE HAS only one MESSAGE please watch it again !!!
YOU NEED TO CLEAR YOUR PREOCCUPIED VIEWS AND belief TO GET IT !
Understanding fundamentals is important.Not all can?The army itself has many modes of entry?Only the NDA of which I am a product,trains Army Navy Airforce future Officers together and at a very young age.The window to military history is opened.My project at 17 was 62.Only years later I learnt of Nehrus forward posture which led to 62(silence on Tibet in 1950 the cause).
There is no right or wrong in war.It is a brutal business.I was in Lanka.When the LTTE used burning tyres,the response was ditto.Borderless world is Utopian,hence Nationalism.Avoid Jingo Nationalisim aka Hitler(Read Europe 1848 onwards).
All wars are about ideology,training,technology,tactics and the lifeblood finance.Thus psy war Viking and Islamic style beheading,Baburs Elephant tech vs Lodis Horses.Jizziya tax,Clive’s taxes.Solutution lies in Assertive democratic public ensuring transparent tax money utilisation under RTI if required.Thereby peace.Templer in Malaysia with Civic Action,Mizoram are success stories.
Partition was Churchill(Sarila Shadow Of The Great Game).India is still not what the Mauryan Empire was.A federated Kashmir(Draupadi with two husbands) is the only long term solution to bring about peace.Philbys ideology made him Commie.Japs had Kamikaze,Prabhakaran did not refer back to Krishna.Warped ISIS etc twist Koranic injunctions that first loyalty is to Country then Ummah reversing to Ummah then Country,therby recruiting.
Genuine seekers may query at [email protected] mail will be reported as cyber crime.Regards Wg Cdr KJ’Kojak’Bhatt MSc(Def)Outstanding Dissertation India 2020AD,YouTube/kopterkojak/soldier(LA Taxi Live)
Nobody will make movie, on supreme sacrifice of AMAR SHAHEED Captain Saurabh Kalia and his teammate for the nation. In our film industry, most of the film producers have a lot of sympathy for terrorists and such persons must be punished. Terrorists must be killed immediately without any wastage of resources of nation. Instead of that, we glorify their brutal acts.
A very well-written article. No amount of respect is enough for our soldiers living and working in such inhospitable conditions. I have visited Kashmir twice and while chatting with local guides they told stories of how Pakistani militants plundered and looted the locals and raped women. In as many words the local guide said, ” Indian army me humein bachaya. Woh nahi note to him barbaad ho jaate” Shame on Vishal Bhardwaj and Shahid Kapoor.
Sir I can understand how you must be feeling and what you’re going through now. I read your whole article and I could read between the lines that there’s so much more you want to say, so much more that you mean but cannot express it because you’re shocked, being a soldier you have inculcated in you the ability to hold the weight of the world on your shoulders, and that you have maintained that respect and composure in you and limited yourself to certain level of decency.
I do respect the Army. Hypothetically even if these allegations turn out to be true I would think there must be a good reason behind you resorting to these acts.
I don’t understand why the hell the censor board gave a green flag (if at all it was in its hands). These gold diggers are only concerned about cutting some simple statements like “I’m a virgin” as that is not what people should here due to our so called “manners and conscience and sabhyata”. Seriously? Anti nation films fall under the definition of “manners and conscience and sabhyata”??
I hope all the people involved in the movie experience the reality someday and are rescued by your men.
I really wished to use the worst possible language to abuse those people but my words aren’t reaching them. They are reaching to a respected armyman whom I’m sharing this with.
Salute to you and the Army sir!
JAI HIND!
All blind by their own prejudices. It was a wonderful movie to watch. Very raw and obviously prone to criticism. I salute the haider team for showcasing the hard reality of Kashmir. Ours is a very poor country country. Not all serve out of patriotism. They fight for their salaries.
Sid, You got it right.
There were many incidents where Armed Officer shoot his own leg or hand forsake of compensation.
Orther part of the story, where Armed Officer killing or retreating innocent civilians on the orders from corrupt politicians. Is well known to everyone.
Even for a second, Armed Officer don’t hesitate to shoot our own country men’s.
And, This is not the first film which sounded Anti-Indian Army., there are many films & documentary revealing truth of Indian Army.
Films are artistic creation, when world saw “Slumdog Millionaire” Indians undertook that film first, they felt dishonoured but world has not only appreciated it even gave pristegious award “Oscar” for it.
Slumdog has reality but people see the storyline not the plot on which it has been shot. Haider has good message at the end.
Thanks,
Nitin Kumar
[email protected]
Sure we aren’t the richest country in terms of money. But you guys sure gave me a glimpse of how poor are we in terms of self respect and valuing the people because of whom you are able to have sound sleep every night.
Saying this in public request: Always use a condom.
Mr Siddharth Zaveri,
Correction, Public Interest !
I would have valued them alot, if they attacked Enemies of our country or Separtist, Not innocent civilians.
1. Its known thing for all of us, when even People fight for their rights in India., this puppet army on orders from corrupt politicians attack innocent people with no reason.
How can you expect from us to respect & value them?
2. Every Indian somewhere in his corner of the heart feels unsafe.., they always have a fear of Terrorist attacks nearby.
Most Indians have forgetting past attitude b’coz they need to survive present. So, They pretend to be Safe.
If you don’t believe me, ask people who witnessed attacks both by Armed Forces & Terrorist.
Concluding with a point; Both Armed Force & Rebellion (Terrorist Outfit) attack innocent people, one on the name of Motherland & other in the name of Jihad/xyz mission. I don’t see any difference between both. Both killing innocent people for their own ego & goals.
Thanks,
Nitin Kumar
[email protected]
Dear Nitin,
If an armed man is standing outside your house. Would you feel more terrified if he’s a terrorist or an armyman?
By the way its the police who control the crowd when people fight for their rights. And trust me, they can’t be on the peoples side even if they know what people are doing is right because they are duty bound. Not for money, but they swore an oath.
If you’re feeling insecure because of terrorist attacks it’s not army responsible. There’s a separate intelligence wing dedicated to monitor that. Its their failure. Army is taking care of the borders to check infiltration and keeping other nations at bay from conquering our country.
Hello Siddharth Zaveri,
Massacares of
1984 in Delhi & Punjab
1993 in Kashmir Valley,
They were no police involvement, It was gott damm Army Officers.
So, You said they take care of border & infiltrators … Are they protecting it. I don’t think so., To justify my stand read further…
Both Border post (India & Pakistan) never fired over opposite bunkers instead fired it always on Civilians & other parts. I was surprised to hear that, they were more Civilians who died than Armed Officers.
I don’t know, why Indian Army cannot blast the Bunker Point from where attack over India is taking place.
I heard from some source that, “Kashmir Conflict is a designed plot or Conspiracy planned by both India & Pakistan jointly to gain Political mileage in their respective sides”
Thanks,
Nitin Kumar
[email protected]
Dear Nitin,
Still waiting for your answer to my question.
About your first part of reply, Indian army has a protocol of not firing the first bullet. “Pehli goli wo chalayenge aakri goli hum” is an actual thing. Maybe thats the reason they are not resorting to blasting their bunkers.
I don’t wish to make this discussion a political one but they haven’t been given enough power to counter the enemies. They have to follow orders.
Recently the center gave them full authority to deal with the infiltrators and constant ceasefire violations from Pakistan and the results are in front of you.
I don’t know how genuine your source is but I don’t see any gains to any political party there if such tension prevails.
Hello Siddharth Zaveri,
Your question doesn’t relate to the discussion but still you urged me to reply over it, here it goes..
If someone outside my house stands with weapons. It would happen in two scenarios, one for protection & other for detention or purpose of killing.
I never wish any Armed Men surrounding my house for sake of protection, it would never be good for one.
Second, I have no reason to get terrified by both Rebellion (Terrorist outfit) or Army Men.
But, If he interfere in my life & try to humilate people who beloved to me & it might be my neighbour too, I will never bear him.
I hope you understand, what I mean to say. Most of the bilateral relations are spoiled b’coz of Army’s of both countries.
If coming to the point who started first attack (or Ceasefire Violations) is still unknown b’coz of zero press freedom in Border Areas.
Pakistan media claims that India is ceasefire violator & same Indian media respond as Pakistan has violated ceasefire too…
One can’t say anything until unless Neutral Person reports it.
Thanks,
Nitin Kumar
[email protected]
A very appropriate review of this film by Agniveer! People who are sensible and know the history, will not feel any different about our great army after watching this film, because we all know the truth. But, there are thousands of anti-Indians who find reasons to blame our nation and army for the violence in Kashmir, and to them this movie acts like an accelerant..
Without AFSPA, Kashmir valley would become an Islamic fundamentalist state like our neighbor, and the film did not show even one glimpse of the sacrifices of our great army or the terrorist activities of the Jiadists.
As rightly said by Agniveer, this movie shows everyone who supports our nation as a villain, and encourages sympathy for the separatists,.
The acting in this movie is excellent and I cant deny that. My real agenda is the background story which is completely Anti-National. As I mentioned before, there are numerous anti national people in our country and this movie could really encourage them. This movie, although well made technically and well acted , is against National interest and a serious action should be taken not to ban this movie, but to show the real story from an unbiased perspective, to show the sacrifices made by our great Indian army, to show how militants were sent across border and how they carried the operation of brainwashing the people of kashmir and turning them against our nation, to show how they destroyed the heaven on earth, and killed so many Hindus and Sikhs. But I do know that is just too much to ask, because nobody is interested in the truth, people want to show things which will gather more attention and publicity.
To the soldier who penned his soul, it is by design the worthy and the godly come in too short a supply. We ponder, we trouble ourselves as to how do we get to a point where we have to show what color our blood is and what a true son of the soil lives and toils among ungodly creatures whose blood has no meaning to flow. We will toil, we will carry on. We are what makes them to shed and sell lives for it is fear of these brave selfless sons that they shudder in their disguise. I salute you sir. Jaihind
in Kashmir both sides of the coin is true. Before taking sides answer on thing.
If your loved one has been abducted. Does it really matter who took him???
Try to judge these things then because u won’t be able to.
All that is needed is not the hatered but love. Love for humanity. Not for religion.
Grow up. Stop hating one other. Life is too short to be lived with a biased mind.
Very well written. Enjoyed reading the review. It was very emotional in some parts. I like to see that you do not stand for banning the movie > but to use it for educating the people. That’s the spirit. Artist should be given freedom of expression but if s/he is misrepresenting though art, one should answer as critic.
I also read this article and as mentioned in the article in this age of information anyone can share his/her views and it gets viral. I’m also an Indian i also love my country as anyone else. I have seen the movie “Haider” and have no doubt in saying that its a very good movie and apart from it i have also read “Hamlet” on which it is based. So, below are my answers to AGNIVEER point by point as mentioned in the article…… (A) – Army is no where shown as criminals in movie they are shown as motivated as they are in real in stopping terrorism in Kashmir. (B) – As to portray an art an individual has to see and show every aspects. (C) – Sorry to say but no where in movie i felt that it has any anti-India tone. Son of doctor is not a member of militant gang of Kashmiri seperatist, he just visits them to search or to know about his father’s murder. In one shot it is also shown that Haider decline to work with them when “Roohdaar” offers him a proposal. (E) – Father of Haider asks his companion to take revenge from his brother “lawyer” not from “Army”. (F) – Sorry for the words but WTF where it is shown that Haider heads towards Pakistan in the end. (G) – Haider is raising slogan which says he wants to know about their relatives and he is not shouting for “Independence from India”. (H) – No where Kashmiri women is shown as lose character. i don’t know why not the lawyer you think is lose character, he also sleeps with his brother’s wife why only Haider’s mother is lose character. Any answer to that? (I) – She is afraid and worried for Haider, she is not trying to do this because she wants to sleep with him. (J) – Haider is not moving to Pakistan it is not shown anywhere and no-one is shown against Islam. (I) Haider kills the mimic characters what wrong in that? (N) – For different types of characters in movie u need to read Hamlet.
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(O) – Sorry to say that i never watched any news or heard from anyone about the “protest against the insulting depiction of a revered temple” Sorry to say but the 5 agenda which are mentioned after last point “R” i never felt like that in movie. I respect Agniveer for his patriotism and all Army for this but sorry to say that something wrong is being interpret about the movie Haider. Haider is a piece of art and adoptation of Hamlet shown in Kashmir so please watch it in that aspect only and if you are drawing conclusions and sharing it with world please feel little responsible that what it may ends in. By saying that “fight Pakistan and Kashmiri seperatists in most ruthless manner to bring peace in valley and India” what it shows. All world knows India about as democratic and peace loving country, so please try to reflect it in our words also to all the people in world. At last i’ll only say that i love India and my Indian Army and respects them to core of my heart.
It is sad that we Indians have completely lost our feelings for the nation. In Asian Games, so many sportspersons were tortured and harassed by Koreans, but the sports authorities are getting their salaries for taking action against those sportspersons who protested, and not the Koreans. The Pakistani party AAP formed the govt. in Delhi, and executed it for around 2 months, and it still has 4 seats.
This Pakistani movie Haider has done a limit. It is making a lot of money from the wallet of anti-indians, just because it is ‘different.’ Where are we ultimately heading?
Why we are expecting bollywood to be patriotic which itself runs entirely on black money of underworld!!!! These morons are so brainless that they can even sell their motherland for money…. so being a true indian ,it’s our sole responsibility to inhibit such efforts of bollywood which is primarily involved in making money and sending back the share to their big brothers of underworld
I believe there is no issues of rights in Kashmir……… Or may be in Israel…….., but “these people” have a knack of killing and mutilating ……….. Else there would haven’t any any problems in countries where there is close to 100% islamist population. eg Afghanistan. Egypt . Turkey siriya…… They want everyone ( religion) to accommodate them in name of humanity and then start “jehad” against the people who accomodated them at the first place. This is a game these guys have been playing since their origin …vis a vis Chengis khan and Gazni,.. Killing come easy to the kind of people as eating or making love….. They cannot be reasoned and any logic fails except bullets…
Indian Army is doing what is required to do.
I believe there is no issues of rights in Kashmir……… Or may be in Israel…….., but “these people” have a knack of killing and mutilating ……….. Else there would haven’t any any problems in countries where there is close to 100% islamist population. eg Afghanistan. Egypt . Turkey siriya…… They want everyone ( religion) to accommodate them in name of humanity and then start “jehad” against the people who accomodated them at the first place, what happened to Buddhist cristians and hindus in Afghanistan . This is a game these guys have been playing since their origin …vis a vis Chengis khan and Gazni,.. Killing come easy to the kind of people as eating or making love….. They cannot be reasoned and any logic fails except bullets…
Indian Army is doing what is required to do.
Thanks for sharing your perspective and it is a much needed one. I truly respect the sacrifices made by Indian army in Kashmir. My words cannot fill in the sacrifices they have made.
However, I agree with your points :
1. when you talk of kashmiri pandits being thrown out as a deed of inhumanity by kashmiri muslims.
2. Pakistan has been infiltrating militancy with the help of militant outfits like LeT, alqaida, isis.
3. I agree these jehadis are taught that they have to capture india and convert everything to Islam.
And I do agree on certain other things you have pointed out. I am an Indian and love my country and am grateful to army men.
But my perspective differs from you on many points in the movie
1. Indian Army is not shown as villain. The depiction of camps is a reality. Would anyone like to disagree with that? Would anyone like to disagree that such camps never existed? It were for militants for sure but would anyone say a complete no that no innocents ever was put into those camps.
2. I have no sympathy towards militants but I ask a question – what would a militants family think when he is captured by Indian army? First word is Revenge that comes to my mind.
3. And I disagree that the revenge here is mentioned towards the army, it is always said in the film to take revenge from his brother(chacha).
4. Women anywhere from India should not called as lose character. It was a situation from the play hamlet. And as far as girlfriends role is concerned – who would disagree that premarital sex never happens.
5. That monologue by haider shows the perspective of a kashmiri Muslim and would anyone doubt it is not the truth? They have always been in that dilemna- ‘ na Hume chodde hindustan, na Hume chodde Pakistan’.. The movie is not against India, it just says what a kashmiri Muslim in the valley thought at that time. I agree and support what army did because otherwise there would have been no Kashmir now and they would have been knocking at Punjab. (Cont’d.)
Dear Sir,
after watchin d film i was bit confused…whether dis movie is made by Indians…..
i was really disappointed bcoz i love my country….nd i really feel sorry for Indian soldiers dat how they r portrayed in dis movie…..
A soldier’s review of the film, Haider, shows to what great extent the so-called intellectuals can go to malign India and its brave army in order to earn appreciation from their real masters in the western countries! It is so surprising that those countries, themselves, now victims of the Islamic terrorism, still have a soft corner for Kashmiri exponents of terror.
Like many others, I too did not find the movie “Haider” anti-army or exploiting anti-national interests. It tried to capture both the viewpoints, including that of so called “anti-nationals”- from a neutral, humanistic standpoint. This article, however is strongly biased and not written in good taste. Not that I expect anything better from an ex-army man. At many points the he shows his low level of intellect by statements like “Kashmiri women have been portrayed as lose characters”. Oh come on; this is just a movie and one character in it! And the movie is based on Hamlet.. Do you even know Shakespeare?
Rustam bhai. Tum hi Shakespeare ko jante ho. Aur koi nahi. 🙂 Btw, besides your love for Shakespeare, do you also know the names of some Indian writers/poets. I bet, you don’t.
I am from kashmir but let me admitt here dt whatever the movie Haider has shown is 100 cent right
Regarding the rescue by Army men during the floods,they only rescued Vvips not an aam admi……and i remember dt night in NIT when hindu students begged the army personal for help but they left us oll there in roof tops and flued away …..then thos hindu students shout anti army and anti india slogans…..hope they were not Jihadis
SIMPLY Go India Go Back
I remember, Vishal Bhardwaj campaigned for congress during the assembly elections. Can’t imagine congress using such abysmall means. A similar logic was supported in the movie Shaurya.
Kashmir was, is and will remain an integral part of India no matter what. Kashmir contains the relics of the Shaiva Idealogy of Hinduism. Infact, taking matter to the UN, article 370 and supporting pseudo nationalist parties is the biggest Chutzpah, the bloody congress have been doing for so long.
The opening line of Hamlet is ” To be or not to be”. And the film appears to be trying to justify this argument by portraying a Kashmiri youth as protagonist in the middle of some bullshit plot. If that is so, then the argument more aptly fits to Kashmiri pundits who were rendered homeless and massacred. Why should Kashmir be separated from India. Only because it has Muslims in majority? Even if this logic gets fulfilled, they would again discriminate and terrorise as the likes of Ahmedis, yazidis,…
To colonise the people of a land like Kashmir turns Mother land for those, who do not know the History of his/her mother! LAND
That was also colonised by British and britishers have left specific two things first “to be proud what you did rather than repent” second English language acquiring zeal,.
Jalyawala Bagh and other massacres by britishers to Indian has left uncountable marks, and as they are still prouding similarly free Indians proud whatever human violation, treaty violation, is going on in kashmir!
Hats off to the brave soldier who has written this review. Hats off to the Indian Army..Jain Hind. Vande Matram.
In India it is considered progressive to abuse Indian culture, traditions, customs, ethics, religion, language, dress and every thing that is Indian. By doing so one considers himself modern. Nationalism is backwardness. We feel proud in ashaming everything of which we should have been proud of.
A filmmaker is also part of modern Indian society and, therefore, thinks like all modern people. Furthermore, a filmmaker is concerned about money. He can do anything for money. That’s why they…
calling film maker a anti-nationalism is not justified.
the film portrays the method by which fundamentalism brain wash the innocent young kashmiri.
the torture story of indian army was depicted by the fundamentalism to brain wash haider and hence it cant be real.the fundamentalism were only interesred in killing khurram and very well aware about haider situation.they were not interested in the wellbeing in the haider. this the reason that when tabbu declare to kill khurram they left the…
[…] A Soldier reviews ‘Haider’ movie — Self-Help | Motivation | Spiritualism | Rationalism… I am an ex-armyman. I was stationed in Kashmir in mid-nineties. This was the same period when hordes of militants from across the border infiltrated in Kashmir to spread terror. Lashkar-e-Taiba, Harkat-ul-Mujahideen, Hizb-ul-Mujahideen and scores of other terrorist groups were having a free-for-all rampage in Kashmir. They would infiltrate from Pakistan, recruit cadre, take them…
I am confident our army is capable enough to track down militants without committing human right violations on civilians (euphemism for murder and occasionally rape).
And if at all these violations occur – in a world’s largest democracy, the victims deserve to demand a fair trial in a civilian court.
They don’t need the total immunity that AFSPA grants them unfairly
But it not happened with Sourav Kalia and his team, which is very much shocking.
I am agree with Sri Sanjeev Agniveer.
But at the same time I also want to mention that the film maker’s are not against the anti-nationalism.
Bande Mataram
Hats off to the Indian Army…….Jai Jawan…..Ji Hind ……..Vande Mataram & our position would be zero tolerance against napakistan.
With u indian army…Have personally seen it when i was in jammu 3 yrs back. Travelling in an auto we were discussing about the terrorist attacks in kashmir… to which the auto driver replied “Humare Jawan shahid ho gaye”…he was referring to the terrorist as their jawans…..
People really don’t get how nested replies work, do they?
yes sir..i still remember saurav kalia although i get confused between vishal bharadwaj and vishal dadlani…salute to you guys.
I think you got it all wrong.
The movie is not about Kashmiri militancy and painting Indian army as a villain.
Indian Army is too awesome for any of us to pass any comments on it.
The movie is about a doctor. Who values humanity and life mirmore than borders, be it a militant or a soldier, his Hypocratic Oath.
The movie is about a doctor who is betrayed by his own brother for love for his wife.
The movie is about a son who must seek revenge for his father.But not from the army, but…
Profound. Well, the amorous relationship between mother and son is Oedipus complex which can also be seen in the original work, Hamlet. I was deeply troubled when the entire Bollywood started sucking up to Bhardwaj and Peer for it. Thanks for it.. BTW, I am a wannabe writer. Wanted to talk to you. Is it possible?
I personally saw it in totally another perspective. I felt haider wanted to show Kashmir’s trysts with destiny, the way things are being affected there due to divisive elements and that too due to no ones fault at all. Everybody was doing what they were supposed to do and still lives were ruined.
But then that’s just me.
Army, because of you we live peacefully. Great article, and hits the nail on the head.
The author observes that he fights for India, yet shows utter disdain for the values that make India special – Freedom of Expression is what separates India from China and Pakistan. And he openly advocates its removal. I’m sorry, but India is not just a geographical entity. It’s an idea. And an IDEAL. And if you take away that ideal, then there IS no India. Sorry, but you cannot protect something by destroying it.
Author too has a freedom of expression, no? And also has mentioned that he’s against banning the film. What’s your point?
From text: “No I don’t call for ban on the film. ..What I call for is to use this film as a lever to educate our Indians and world about Kashmir.”
Re-read maybe. Also, try it while being physically present around Pakistan border in Kashmir, under constant threat from gunfires, militant insurgents. Who knows, you may even get a different and wider…
But he doesn’t care about the freedom of expression of someone who doesn’t feel like saying “Jai Hind” apparently.
@Bhagwad
1. A very cute point raised by you. But did you not see the situation in which movie is made? A war is going on. Not only the enemies are across the border,they are within our territory. There were militant insurgents in almost every 2nd home in the area. In such a situation,if any person openly disrespects symbols of Indian nationalism,he is giving out a clear signal of being enemy in India’s land,a potential brainwashed militant who will not think twice before murdering innocents…
2. In such a hostile situation with one’s territory densely populated with terrorists, IndianArmy has every right to be suspicious and investigative to ensure that citizens of India are able to protect and maintain their right to freedom of expression (and right to act cute when lethal enemy is standing overhead !).
I personally think that this movie, like most Bollywood movies, is bilge. Indians are proud of their Army, and everyone knows that a movie on Kashmir, is not going to be a pretty one. War is hardly fair, and the ones who have suffered are not only the Kashmiris, but also the Soldiers who have to fight. For the separatists, militants, and terrorists, I don’t wish to waste words, they deserve every brutality they suffer. They are the ones who began it in the first place.
I have decided not to watch movies of SHAHID and VISHAL BHARADWAJ.
Agniveer you are always acted like an asshole (farding from mouth).
I am a kashmiri I see how much your army is sober and innocent .
I have been seeing that from my childhood the most humane work of army that I can recall is of kunan poshpora where they raped almost a hundred women even kids aged 6 were raped. and their husband their sons and their brothers were forced to see how their womans are being raped.
its not a fabricated story world knows about the black deeds of your army done in…
N wat Kashmir Muslims did to Kashmiri pandit…..They raped women….Burn them….Don’t u feel any thing for them??….Always cry for urself
army raped in kashmir its not a fabricated story world knows about the black deeds of your army done in poshpora kunan.
Dont you see that also ….
Do you know how many innocent teenagers have been killed here from 1990 till 2014?
Do you know how many people were arrested because they didn’t carry id cards and they are lost till this day?
Do you know how many fake encounters have been done by your black dogs (army)?
whenever anybody try to show your ugly face you tried to deceive them…
in poshpora kunan.
Dont you see that also ….
Do you know how many innocent teenagers have been killed here from 1990 till 2014?
Do you know how many people were arrested because they didn’t carry id cards and they are lost till this day?
Do you know how many fake encounters have been done by your black dogs (army)?
whenever anybody try to show your ugly face you tried to deceive them by bringing the issue of kashmiri pundits.?
I know they faced some sufferings but these sufferings…
Namaste brother
Oh really!! u know dat many kashmiri pundits suffered alot…. thank God
brother u r saying about poshpora kunan but what about those innocent kashimiri pundit’s women.. They were also raped in the name of islam and AZAADI …. where were u dat tym??
how can our army allow someone to go who don’t hav their ids… if u ppl dont support those terrorist forces who r fighting for their so called AZAADI then army has no prblm to allow u going…
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