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There is no Beef in Vedas

Sanjeev Newar
By Sanjeev Newar
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अस्वीकरण पढ़ें

इस पूरी वेबसाईट में जहाँ भी ‘इस्लाम’ वा ‘मुसलमान’ वा पैग़म्बर आदि मज़हबी शब्दों का प्रयोग हुआ है, उसका अर्थ केवल और केवल इस्लाम वा मुसलमान वा पैग़म्बर आदि शब्दों की वह व्याख्या है जो कट्टर इस्लाम के मशहूर और लोकप्रिय प्रचारक जैसे - ज़ाकिर नाईक़, अंजम चौधरी, हाफ़िज़ सईद, मौलाना इसरार अहमद, मौलाना मसूद अज़हर और उनके समर्थक करते हैं जिसके अनुसार हर ग़ैर-मुसलमान जहन्नम/नर्क की आग में जलेगा और हर इस्लाम छोड़ने वाले को क़त्ल कर देना चाहिए।

इस पूरी वेबसाईट में जहाँ भी ‘क़ुरान’ शब्द प्रयुक्त हुआ है, उसका अर्थ क़ुरान की पुस्तक के वो अनुवाद और व्याख्याएँ हैं जो कट्टर इस्लाम के प्रतिनिधियों द्वारा इंटरनेट और अन्य स्थानों पर प्रचारित-प्रसारित की जाती हैं जिन्हें पढ़कर कमज़ोर दिल के लोग कट्टरता की दिशा में मुड़ रहे हैं। हम जानते हैं कि क़ुरान व उपरिलिखित शब्दों की कुछ व्याख्याएँ ऐसी भी हैं जो हिंसा को आज के दिन ठीक नहीं समझतीं, एवं ग़ैरमज़हबी मानवता पर बल देती है पर ऐसी व्याख्याएँ और व्याख्याता कट्टर इस्लाम के प्रतिनिधियों और उनके अनुयायियों की दृष्टि में मुर्तद (मुसलमान जिसने इस्लाम छोड़ दिया हो) घोषित किए गए हैं। ऐसे व्याख्याता और उनकी व्याख्याएँ इस वेबसाईट के विषय नहीं हैं। चिंता का विषय है कि आज इंटर्नेट आदि माध्यमों में कट्टरवादी व्याख्याओं का बाहुल्य है एवं उदारवादी सहिष्णु व्याख्याएँ दुष्प्राप्य हैं।

हम मानते हैं कि मूल इस्लाम, पैग़म्बर, क़ुरान आदि बहुत प्रेम और आनंद सिखाते होंगे। परंतु इस वेबसाईट में इन शब्दों से केवल वो अर्थ लिए जाएँ जो नवीन लोगों ने अपने हिसाब से अपने मिलावटी ग्रंथ/अनुवाद बना लिए हैं। हम इन मिलावटी ग्रंथों/अनुवादों को ठीक नहीं मानते और हमारी इस्लाम, पैग़म्बर या क़ुरान आदि विषयों की व्याख्या को आज के कट्टरवादी प्रचलित/मिलावटी अनुवादों के संदर्भ में ही लिया जाए। हमारी कोई बात मूल इस्लाम, पैग़म्बर और क़ुरान के लिए नहीं है। उसके लिए तो बस सम्मान है।

किसी भी व्यक्ति, समुदाय, उदारवादी विचारधारा की भावना को ठेस पहुँचाना इस वेबसाईट का उद्देश्य नहीं है। किंतु विषय गम्भीर है, संवेदनशील है। प्रचारित इतिहास पर प्रश्नचिन्ह उठाता है। कुछ स्थानों पर एतिहासिक विषयों को नाटकीय रूप में भी प्रस्तुत किया गया है। अतः यह निवेदन है कि यदि इन विषयों को लेकर आप किंचित भी संवेदनशील है तो इस वेबसाईट को आगे न पढ़ें। यह वेबसाईट केवल परिपक्व मनस हेतु है जो इस अस्वीकरण को ध्यान रखते हुए, हमारी मूल भावना का सम्मान करते हुए, हमारे सृजनात्मक अभिव्यक्ति के अधिकार को अंगीकार कर सकें।

This entry is part [part not set] of 8 in the series Vedas - Myths and Reality

Vedas - Myths and Reality

The material presented here is based on a thorough and objective analysis of roots of Vedic words, the context in which they appear, Vedic Vocabulary,  Philology, Grammar and other tools critical for correct interpretation of the Vedic mantras. Thus this research series does not merely rely on blind reproduction of works of Max Muller, Griffith, Wilson, Williams and other indologists on Vedas and Vedic language. While they are more popular in contemporary western academia, we have objective reasons to conclude that their works are far from authoritative. We shall explore this facet in more detail in this research series.
Welcome to this first part of the research series on critical evaluation of Misconceptions surrounding the Vedas – the first books of knowledge on earth.
For centuries aspersions have been cast upon the Vedas; the primary holy scriptures of the Hindus of having unholy contents. If one really started believing in those aspersions, the entire Hindu philosophy, culture, and traditions would reduce to nothing but savagery, barbarism and cannibalism.
The Vedas – the very roots of Hinduism, rather the first source of knowledge on earth – are meant for guiding the actions of human being in order to lead a blissful life.
This slanderous campaign has been unleashed by different vested interests to embarrass Hindus around the world citing specific references from the Vedas.
This also comes handy in convincing poor and illiterate Indians to give up their faith on the grounds that their fundamental holy books – the Vedas – contain all the inhuman elements like denigration of women, meat-eating, polygamy, casteism and above all – beef eating.
The Vedas are also accused of animal sacrifice in sacrificial ceremonies popularly known as the YAJNA. Interestingly a section of home-bred intellectuals claiming to have deep study of ancient India has also come up, who cite references from works of western indologists to prove such unholy content in the Vedas.
Saying that the Vedas permit beef-eating and cow-slaughter amounts to striking a lethal blow to a Hindu’s soul. Respect for cow forms a core tenet of Hinduism. Once you are able to convince him of flaws in the foundation of this core tenet and make him feel guilty, he becomes an easy prey for the predator faiths. There are millions of ill-informed Hindus who are not empowered to counter argue and hence quietly surrender.
The vested interests that malign the Vedas are not confined to foreign and home-bred indologists alone. A certain class among Hindus exploited the rest of the population including the socially and economically weaker sections by forcing them to believe and follow what they said in the name of Vedas or else face the wrath.
All the slanders heaped upon the Vedas can be attributed mainly to the interpretations of commentaries written by Mahidhar, Uvat and Saayan in the medieval times; and to what Vam-margis or the Tantra cult propagated in their books in the name of the Vedas.
In due course the falsehood spread far and wide and they became even more deep rooted when western scholars with their half baked knowledge of Sanskrit transliterated these interpretations of commentaries of Sayan and Mahidhar, in the name of translating the Vedas.
However, they lacked the pre-requisite understanding of Shiksha (Phonetics), Vyakarana (Grammar), Nirukta (Philology), Nighantu (Vocabulary), Chhanda (Prosody), Jyotish (Astronomy), Kalpa and so on that are critical for correct interpretation of the Vedas.
The purpose behind Agniveer movement is to objectively evaluate all such misconceptions about the Vedas – the foundation of human knowledge and establish their piety, sanctity, great ideals and philosophy that cater not only to Hindus but to every human being without bars, bias or discrimination of any kind.
Section 1: No  violence against animals
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Yasmintsarvaani bhutaanyaatmaivaabhuudvijaanatah
Tatra ko mohah kah shokah ekatvamanupasyatah
Yajurveda 40.7
“Those who see all beings as souls do not feel infatuation or anguish at their sight, for they experience oneness with them”.
How could people who believed in the doctrines of indestructibility, transmigration  dare to kill living animals in yajnas? They might be seeing the souls of their own near and dear ones of bygone days residing in those living beings.
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Anumantaa vishasitaa nihantaa krayavikrayee
Samskartaa chopahartaa cha khadakashcheti ghaatakaah
Manusmrithi 5.51
Those who permit slaying of animals; those who bring animals for slaughter; those who slaughter; those who sell meat; those who purchase meat; those who prepare dish out of it; those who serve that
meat and those who eat are all murderers.
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Breehimattam yavamattamatho maashamatho tilam
Esha vaam bhaago nihito ratnadheyaaya dantau maa hinsishtam pitaram maataram cha
Atharvaveda 6.140.2
O teeth! You eat rice, you eat barley, you gram and you eat sesame. These cereals are specifically meant for you. Do not kill those who are capable of being fathers and mothers.
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Ya aamam maansamadanti paurusheyam cha ye kravih
Garbhaan khaadanti keshavaastaanito naashayaamasi
Atharvaveda 8.6.23

We ought to destroy those who eat cooked as well as uncooked meat, meat involving destruction of males and females, foetus and eggs.
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Anago hatya vai bheema kritye
Maa no gaamashvam purusham vadheeh
Atharvaveda 10.1.29

It is definitely a great sin to kill innocents. Do not kill our cows, horses and people.
How could there be justification of cow and other animals being killed when killing is so clearly prohibited in the Vedas?
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Aghnyaa yajamaanasya pashoonpahi
Yajurveda 1.1
“O human! animals are Aghnya – not to be killed. Protect the animals”
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Pashunstraayethaam
Yajurveda 6.11
Protect the animals.
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Dwipaadava Chatushpaatpaahi
Yajurveda 14.8
Protect the bipeds and quadrupeds!
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Kravy da –kravya[ meat obtained from slaughter] + Ada [ the eater]—the meat eater.
Pisacha — pisita [meat] +asa [eater]—the meat eater.
Asutrpa — Asu [breath of life] + trpa [one who satisfies himself on]—one who takes others life for his meals.
Garba da and Anda da – the foetus and egg eaters.
Mans da – the meat eaters
Meat eaters have always been looked down in Vedic literature. They have been known as Rakshasas, Pisacha and so on….All these words are synonyms of demons or devils that have been out-cast from the civilized human society.
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Urjam no dhehi dwipade chatushpade
Yajurveda 11.83
“May all bipeds and quadrupeds gain strength and nourishment”
This mantra is recited by Hindus before every meal. How could the same philosophy which prays for well-being of every soul in every moment of life, approve of killing animals?
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Section 2: No  violence in Yajna

Yajna never meant animal sacrifice in the sense popularly understood. Yajna in the Vedas meant a noble deed or the highest purifying action.
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Adhvara iti Yajnanaama – Dhvaratihimsaakarmaa tatpratishedhah
Nirukta 2.7
According to Yaaska Acharya, one of the synonyms of Yajna in Nirukta or the Vedic philology is Adhvara.
Dhvara means an act with himsa or violence. And therefore a-dhvara means an act involving no himsa or no violence. There are a large number of such usage of Adhvara in the Vedas.
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In the post-Mahabharata period, misinterpretation of the Vedas and interpolations in other scriptures took place at various points intime. Acharya Shankar reestablished the Vedic values to an extent.
In the more recent times, Swami Dayanand Saraswati – known as the grandfather of modern India – interpreted the Vedas as per thecorrect rules of the language and authentic evidences. His literature, which includes commentary on the Vedas, Satyarth Prakash loosely translated as Light of Truth, An Introduction to the Vedas and other texts led to widespread social reformation based on Vedic philosophy and dispelling of myths surrounding the Vedas.
Let us discover what the Vedas have to say on Yajna.
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Agne yam yagnamadhvaram vishwatah pari bhuurasi
Sa id deveshu gacchati
Rigveda 1.1.4
O lord of effulgence! The non-violent Yajna, you prescribe from all sides, is beneficial for all, touches divine proportions and is accepted by noble souls.
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The Rigveda describes Yajna as Adhvara  or non violent throughout. Same is the case with all the other Vedas. How can it be then concluded that the Vedas permit violence or slaughter of animals?
The biggest accusation of cattle and cow slaughter comes in the context of the Yajnas that derived their names from different cattle like the Ashwamedh Yajna, the Gomedha Yajna and the Nar-medh Yajna. Even by the wildest stretch of the imagination the word Medha would not mean slaughter in this context.
It’s interesting to note what Yajurveda says about a horse
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Imam ma himsirekashafam pashum kanikradam vaajinam vaajineshu
Yajurveda 13.48
Do not slaughter this one hoofed animal that neighs and who goes with a speed faster than most of the animals.
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Aswamedha does not mean horse sacrifice at Yajna. Instead the Yajurveda clearly mentions that a horse ought not to be slaughtered.
In Shathapatha, Ashwa is a word for the nation or empire
The word medha does not mean slaughter. It denotes an act done in accordance to the intellect Alternatively it could mean consolidation, as evident from the root meaning of medha i.e. medhru san-ga-me
Raashtram vaa ashwamedhah
Annam hi gau
Agnirvaa ashwah
Aajyam medhah
(Shatpath 13.1.6.3)
Swami Dayananda Saraswati wrote in his Light of Truth:
A Yajna dedicated to the glory, wellbeing and prosperity of the Rashtra the nation or empire is known as the Ashwamedh yajna.
“To keep the food pure or to keep the senses under control, or to make the food pure or to make a good use of the rays of Sun or keep the earth free from impurities[clean] is called Gomedha Yajna”.
“The word Gau also means the Earth and the yajna dedicated to keep the Earth the environment clean is called Gomedha Yajna”
“The cremation of the body of a dead person in accordance with the principles laid down in the Vedas is called Naramedha Yajna”.
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Section 3: No beef in Vedas

Not only the Vedas are against animal slaughter but also vehemently oppose and prohibit cow slaughter.Yajurveda forbids killing of cows, for they provide energizing food for human beings
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Ghrtam duhaanaamaditim janaayaagne maa himsiheeh
Yajurveda 13.49
Do not kill cows and bulls who always deserve to be protected.
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Aare gohaa nrhaa vadho vo astu
Rigveda 7.56.17
In Rigveda cow slaughter has been declared a heinous crime equivalent to human murder and it has been said that those who commits this crime should be punished.
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Sooyavasaad bhagavatee hi bhooyaa atho vayam bhagvantah syaama
Addhi trnamaghnye vishwadaaneem piba shuddhamudakamaacharantee
Rigveda 1.164.40 or Atharv 7.73.11 or Atharv 9.10.20
The Aghnya cows – which are not to be killed under any circumstances– may keep themselves healthy by use of pure water and green grass, so that we may be endowed with virtues, knowledge and wealth.
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The Vedic Lexicon, Nighantu, gives amongst other synonyms of Gau[ or cow] the words Aghnya. Ahi, and Aditi. Yaska the commentator on Nighantu, defines these as-
Aghnya the one that ought not to be killed
Ahi the one that must not be slaughtered.
Aditi the one that ought not to be cut into pieces.
These three names of cow signify that the animal ought not to be put to tortures. These words appear frequently throughout the Vedas in context of the cow.
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Aghnyeyam saa vardhataam mahate soubhagaaya
Rigveda 1.164.27
Cow – The aghnya – brings us health and prosperity
Suprapaanam Bhavatvaghnyaayaah
Rigveda 5.83.8
There should be excellent facility for pure water for Aghnya Cow
Yah paurusheyena kravishaa samankte yo ashwena pashunaa yaatudhaanah
Yo aghnyaayaa bharati ksheeramagne teshaam sheershaani harasaapi vrishcha
Rigveda 10.87.16
Those who feed on human, horse or animal flesh and those who destroy milk-giving Aghnya cows should be severely punished.
Vimucchyadhvamaghnyaa devayaanaa aganma
Yajurveda 12.73
The Aghnya cows and bulls bring you prosperity
Maa gaamanaagaamaditim vadhishta
Rigveda 8.101.15
Do not kill the cow. Cow is innocent and aditi – that ought not to be cut into pieces
Antakaaya goghaatam
Yajurveda 30.18
Destroy those who kill cows
Yadi no gaam hansi yadyashwam yadi poorusham
Tam tvaa seesena vidhyaamo yatha no so aveeraha
Atharvaveda 1.16.4
If someone destroys our cows, horses or people, kill him with a bullet of lead.
Vatsam jaatamivaaghnyaa
Atharvaveda 3.30.1
Love each other as the Aghnya – non-killable cow – loves its calf
Dhenu sadanam rayeenaam
Atharvaveda 11.1.34
Cow is fountainhead of all bounties
The entire 28th Sukta or Hymn of 6th Mandal of Rigveda sings the glory of cow.
Aa gaavo agnamannuta bhadramakrantseedantu
Bhooyobhooyo rayimidasya vardhayannabhinne
Na taa nashanti na dabhaati taskaro naasaamamitro vyathiraa dadharshati

Na taa arvaa renukakaato ashnute na samskritramupa yanti taa abhi

Gaavo bhago gaava indro me achhaan

Yooyam gaavo medayathaa

Maa vah stena eeshata maaghanshasah
1. Everyone should ensure that cows are free from miseries and kept healthy.
2. God blesses those who take care of cows.
3. Even the enemies should not use any weapon on cows
4. No one should slaughter the cow
5. Cow brings prosperity and strength
6. If cows keep healthy and happy, men and women shall also keep disease free and prosperous
7. May the cow eat green grass and pure water. May they not be killed and bring prosperity to us.
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What more proofs does one need to understand the high esteem in whichnot only the cow but each living being is held in the Vedas.
The learned audience can decide for themselves from these evidences that the Vedas are completely against any inhuman practice… to top it all the Beef and Cow slaughter.

There is no Beef in Vedas.

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Bibliography:
1.    Rigveda Bhashya – Commentary on Rigveda by Swami Dayanand Saraswati
2.    Yajurveda Bhashya – Commentary on Yajurveda by Swami Dayanand Saraswati
3.    No Beef in Vedas by BD Ukhul
4.    Vedon ka Yatharth Swaroop (True nature of Vedas) by Pt Dharmadeva Vidyavachaspati
5.    All 4 Veda Samhita by Pt Damodar Satvalekar
6.    Pracheen Bharat me Gomamsa – Ek Sameeksha (Beef in Ancient India – an analysis) by Geeta Press, Gorakhpur
7.    The Myth of Holy Cow – by DN Jha
8.    Hymns of Atharvaveda – Griffith
9.    Scared Books of the east – Max Muller
10.    Rigveda translations by Williams/Jones
11.    Sanskrit English Dictionary – Monier Williams
12.    Commentary on Vedas by Dayanand Sansthan
13.    Western Indologists – a study of motives by Pt Bhagvadutt
14.     Satyarth Prakash by Swami Dayanand Saraswati
15.     Introduction to Vedas by Swami Dayanand Saraswati
16.     Cloud over understanding of Vedas by BD Ukhul
17.    Shathpath Brahman
18.     Nirukta – Yaska Acharya
19.     Dhatupath – Panini
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Addendum on 14 April 2010:
After this article, there was severe reaction from various sources who cannot live with the fact that Vedas and ancient culture of our nation could have been more ideal than their current communistic ideals. I received several mails that tried to refute the articles by citing additional references that support beef-eating. These include 2 mantras from Rigveda, and some Shlokas from Manu Smriti and a few other texts. An example is the comment from Avtar Gill on this page itself. On these, I have to say the following:
a. The article has given evidence from Manu Smriti itself which states that even one who permits killing is a murderer. Thus all these additional shlokas are either from adulterated Manu Smriti or misinterpreted by twisting of words. I recommend them to read Manu Smriti by Dr Surendra Kumar.
b. A typical example of foul play by those hell-bent on justifying their obsession with beef in ancient texts, is to translate Mansa as ‘meat’. In reality, ‘Mansa’ is a generic word used to denote pulp. Meat is called ‘Mansa’ because it is pulpy. So mere presence of ‘Mansa’ does not mean it refers to meat.
c. The other texts referred by them are among dubious ones not considered authoritative evidence. Their modus operandi is simple – state anything written in Sanskrit as Dharma and translate the way they want to prove whatever they want. This is how they have been fooling us all by filling our textbooks with all unverified demeaning claims.
d. With regards to Vedas, they could come up with two mantras that supposedly justify beef eating. Let us evaluate them:
Claim: Rigveda (10/85/13) declares, “On the occasion of a girl’s marriage oxen and cows are slaughtered.”
Fact: The mantra states that in winter, the rays of sun get weakened and then get strong again in spring. The word used for sun-rays in ‘Go’ which also means cow and hence the mantra can also be translated by making ‘cow’ and not ‘sun-rays’ as the subject. The word used for ‘weakened’ is ‘Hanyate’ which can also mean killing. But if that be so, why would the mantra go further and state in next line (which is deliberately not translated) that in spring, they start regaining their original form.
How can a cow killed in winter regain its health in spring? This amply proves how ignorant and biased communists malign Vedas.
Claim: Rigveda (6/17/1) states that “Indra used to eat the meat of cow, calf, horse and buffalo.”
Fact: The mantra states that brilliant scholars enlighten the world in the manner that wood enhances the fire of Yajna. I fail to understand from where did Avtar Gill and his friends discover Indra, cow, calf, horse and buffalo in this mantra!
In summary, I continue the challenge to everyone – cite one single mantra from Vedas that justify beef-eating and I shall be eager to embrace any faith that he or she may decide for me. If not, they should agree to revert back to the Vedas.
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अस्वीकरण पढ़ें

इस पूरी वेबसाईट में जहाँ भी ‘इस्लाम’ वा ‘मुसलमान’ वा पैग़म्बर आदि मज़हबी शब्दों का प्रयोग हुआ है, उसका अर्थ केवल और केवल इस्लाम वा मुसलमान वा पैग़म्बर आदि शब्दों की वह व्याख्या है जो कट्टर इस्लाम के मशहूर और लोकप्रिय प्रचारक जैसे - ज़ाकिर नाईक़, अंजम चौधरी, हाफ़िज़ सईद, मौलाना इसरार अहमद, मौलाना मसूद अज़हर और उनके समर्थक करते हैं जिसके अनुसार हर ग़ैर-मुसलमान जहन्नम/नर्क की आग में जलेगा और हर इस्लाम छोड़ने वाले को क़त्ल कर देना चाहिए।

इस पूरी वेबसाईट में जहाँ भी ‘क़ुरान’ शब्द प्रयुक्त हुआ है, उसका अर्थ क़ुरान की पुस्तक के वो अनुवाद और व्याख्याएँ हैं जो कट्टर इस्लाम के प्रतिनिधियों द्वारा इंटरनेट और अन्य स्थानों पर प्रचारित-प्रसारित की जाती हैं जिन्हें पढ़कर कमज़ोर दिल के लोग कट्टरता की दिशा में मुड़ रहे हैं। हम जानते हैं कि क़ुरान व उपरिलिखित शब्दों की कुछ व्याख्याएँ ऐसी भी हैं जो हिंसा को आज के दिन ठीक नहीं समझतीं, एवं ग़ैरमज़हबी मानवता पर बल देती है पर ऐसी व्याख्याएँ और व्याख्याता कट्टर इस्लाम के प्रतिनिधियों और उनके अनुयायियों की दृष्टि में मुर्तद (मुसलमान जिसने इस्लाम छोड़ दिया हो) घोषित किए गए हैं। ऐसे व्याख्याता और उनकी व्याख्याएँ इस वेबसाईट के विषय नहीं हैं। चिंता का विषय है कि आज इंटर्नेट आदि माध्यमों में कट्टरवादी व्याख्याओं का बाहुल्य है एवं उदारवादी सहिष्णु व्याख्याएँ दुष्प्राप्य हैं।

हम मानते हैं कि मूल इस्लाम, पैग़म्बर, क़ुरान आदि बहुत प्रेम और आनंद सिखाते होंगे। परंतु इस वेबसाईट में इन शब्दों से केवल वो अर्थ लिए जाएँ जो नवीन लोगों ने अपने हिसाब से अपने मिलावटी ग्रंथ/अनुवाद बना लिए हैं। हम इन मिलावटी ग्रंथों/अनुवादों को ठीक नहीं मानते और हमारी इस्लाम, पैग़म्बर या क़ुरान आदि विषयों की व्याख्या को आज के कट्टरवादी प्रचलित/मिलावटी अनुवादों के संदर्भ में ही लिया जाए। हमारी कोई बात मूल इस्लाम, पैग़म्बर और क़ुरान के लिए नहीं है। उसके लिए तो बस सम्मान है।

किसी भी व्यक्ति, समुदाय, उदारवादी विचारधारा की भावना को ठेस पहुँचाना इस वेबसाईट का उद्देश्य नहीं है। किंतु विषय गम्भीर है, संवेदनशील है। प्रचारित इतिहास पर प्रश्नचिन्ह उठाता है। कुछ स्थानों पर एतिहासिक विषयों को नाटकीय रूप में भी प्रस्तुत किया गया है। अतः यह निवेदन है कि यदि इन विषयों को लेकर आप किंचित भी संवेदनशील है तो इस वेबसाईट को आगे न पढ़ें। यह वेबसाईट केवल परिपक्व मनस हेतु है जो इस अस्वीकरण को ध्यान रखते हुए, हमारी मूल भावना का सम्मान करते हुए, हमारे सृजनात्मक अभिव्यक्ति के अधिकार को अंगीकार कर सकें।

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Sanjeev Newar is an eminent data scientist, entrepreneur, best-selling author, and speaker with expertise in Vedas and Sanskrit. He is an alumnus of IIT Guwahati and IIM Calcutta. He quit the corporate world to work for social inclusion and the protection of the vulnerable. For his work on Dalit inclusion and empowerment, he received the Neelkantha Award in 2019. He founded the Sewa Nyaya Utthan Foundation to make quality education accessible to vulnerable groups and marginalised communities.

380 COMMENTS

  1. ok…if u say that since plants are not resisting away when u cut them and so they do not have consciousness and hence we can eat them..then the same thing should apply for an egg..how can u say that it is non veg? and eating egg is also prohibited in vedas. if u say that soul exists only in the beings which resist others, then egg shouldnt have a soul yet..and scientifically the presecence of soul is not proven..so how can u say micro organisms dont hav soul and insects or birds have it??

    • Namaste Prakash
      ———-scientifically the presecence of soul is not proven———-
      Presence of soul is not proven in humans in general and in Prakash in particular 🙂 Does that mean one can eat …..? No.
      Your argument hold no water anyway. Even if I agree that plants may (still probability of feeling pain is less than 1) feel pain, still eating animals is worse because they surely feel pain (probability of feeling pain is 1) as animals and humans have same nervous system coordinated by similar mechanism of sensory neurons. So when you need to choose better option, you must go with veg.
      Eating an unconscious egg is similar to eating human fetus who is yet to be conscious. If you let the egg to be hatched properly, you would certainly get a conscious bird. But that is not the case with plants.

    • I am giving you a “drishti”.Obtain this “drishti” and you will leave non-veg.The “drishti” is as follows:
      Be happy,if each and every organism in the world is happy.Be sad,even if one organism is in grief.

  2. food cannot make you spiritual, but if you are spiritual your food habits will change. Eating anything will not make much difference. You can be a vegetarian and cruel to the extreme, and violent; you can be a non-vegetarian and kind and loving. Food will not make much difference. In India there are communities who have lived totally with vegetarian food; many Brahmins have lived totally with vegetarian food. They are non-violent but they are not spiritual

    • Namaste Vikas
      Process of eating non veg is itself unkind and cruel. So you can at best say-
      Eating veg is necessary but not the sufficient condition for being spiritually blessed. But eating veg is sufficient to be called as cruel thus non spiritual.

  3. Im not a scholar or an expert in an religious texts. But im curious why some people take so dim view of those who eat meat and think of themselves as better than those who eat meat. Is not eating meat the sole qualification for a good human?

    • Raashtram vaa ashwamedhah
      Annam hi gau
      Agnirvaa ashwah
      Aajyam medhah
      (Shatpath 13.1.6.3)
      Swami Dayananda Saraswati wrote in his Light of Truth:
      A Yajna dedicated to the glory, wellbeing and prosperity of the Rashtra the nation or empire is known as the Ashwamedh yajna.
      “To keep the food pure or to keep the senses under control, or to make the food pure or to make a good use of the rays of Sun or keep the earth free from impurities[clean] is called Gomedha Yajna”.
      “The word Gau also means the Earth and the yajna dedicated to keep the Earth the environment clean is called Gomedha Yajna”
      “The cremation of the body of a dead person in accordance with the principles laid down in the Vedas is called Naramedha Yajna”.

      • @All
        _______The word Gau also means the Earth and the yajna dedicated to keep the Earth the environment clean is called Gomedha Yajna”_______________
        For more clarification here is Mantra of Yajurveda 3/6 “Ayam ‘Gau’ Swaha Pitram Puraha Prayan Mataram Prishnihi Aakrameet Asadat”.
        Means
        This earth revolves around the Sun in the space and it also rotates on its own axis.
        http://www.aryasamajjamnagar.org/yajurveda/pages/p73.gif

      • As per Yogic logic.
        Shwa refers to respiration.
        So, the process where respiration is temporary halted is known as Ashwamedha. Yogis have experienced a high level spiritual state which they call KUMBHAK AVASTHAA. There they experienced many great events within themselves.
        Whatever be the logic, literal translation of Ashwamedha to link it with some horse is a disaster. We need to analyze the real truth. THANKS TO REAL SCHOLARS WHO INCREASE ACCESSIBILITY TO THE TRUTH.

  6. ISLAM doesnot say eat only NON-VEG … it only gives options to eat NON-VEG(only herbivorous animals) and its better to be VEG. ISLAM always draws lines between good and bad. And Bad (it is not actually bad, it is good and acceptable) it gives liberty to the certain calibration, because Allah knows best. The inventor can only write the manual of the machine and its working. Similary the creator The ALLAH knew that eating of Carnivorous animals or worstly Cannibals would also tend to make us ferosious or violent. We tend to get the characteristic of the violent nature. It is said scientifically. Hence, it could have been only said by a GOD who knew this fact. And we are only the discoverors… !!

    • With the detailed facts on why NON-VEG also acceptable(and that too only herbivorous)…. Muslims accepts living and non-living things needs to be used generously, according to ISLAM even the non-living things curses us if we are unfare usage… So forget about the soul in plants or animals. We need to be kind to all in the nature, i.e on the earth.
      1. Only eating of herbivorous animals allowed
      I agree that, what a person eats has an effect on his behaviour. This is one of the reasons why Islam prohibits the eating of carnivorous animals like lion, tiger, leopard, etc. who are violent and ferocious. The consumption of the meat of such animals would probably make a person violent and ferocious. Islam only allows the eating of herbivorous animals like cow, goat, sheep, etc. that are peaceful and docile. We Muslims eat peaceful and docile animals because we are peace loving and non-violent people.
      2. The Qur’an says Prophet prohibits what is bad
      The Qur’an says:
      “The Prophet commands them what is just and prohibits what is evil”. “He allows them as lawful what is good (and pure) and prohibits them what is bad (and impure),”
      [Al-Qur’an 7: 157]
      “So take what the Messenger assigns to you and deny yourselves that which he withholds from you.”
      [Al-Qur’an 59: 7]
      For a Muslim, the Prophet’s statement is sufficient to convince him that Allah does not wish humans to eat some kinds of meat while allowing some other kinds.
      3. Hadith of Mohammad (pbuh) prohibiting eating of carnivorous animals
      According to various authentic Ahadith narrated in Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim including hadith narrated by Ibn Abbas in Sahih Muslim, Book of hunting and slaughter,Hadith No. 4752 and Sunan Ibn-I-Majah chapter 13 Hadith no. 3232 to 3234, the Holy Prophet (pbuh) prohibited the eating of:
      i. Wild animals with canine teeth, i.e. meat eating carnivorous animals. These are animals belonging to the cat families such as lion, tiger, cats, dogs, wolfs, hyenas, etc.
      …

      • Question:
        Killing an animal is a ruthless act. Why then do Muslims consume non-vegetarian food?
        Answer:
        Islam enjoins mercy and compassion for all living creatures. At the same time Islam maintains that Allah has created the earth and its wondrous flora and fauna for the benefit of mankind. It is upto mankind to use every resource in this world judiciously, as a niyamat(Divine blessing) and amanat (trust) from Allah.
        1. Qur’an permits Muslims to have non-vegetarian food
        The Qur’an, however permits a Muslim to have non-vegetarian food. The following Qur’anicverses are proof of this fact:
        “O ye who believe! Fulfil (all) obligations. Lawful unto you (for food) are all four-footed animals with the exceptions named.”
        [Al-Qur’an 5:1]
        “And cattle He has created for you (men): from them Ye derive warmth, and numerous benefits, And of their (meat) ye eat.”
        [Al-Qur’an 16:5]
        “And in cattle (too) ye have an instructive example: From within their bodies We produce (milk) for you to drink; there are, in them, (besides), numerous (other) benefits for you; and of their (meat) ye eat.”
        [Al-Qur’an 23:21]
        2. Meat is nutritious and rich in complete protein
        Non-vegetarian food is a good source of excellent protein. It contains biologically complete protein i.e. all the 8 essential amino acid that are not synthesized by the body and should be supplied in the diet. Meat also contains iron, vitamin B1 and niacin.
        3. Humans have Omnivorous set of teeth
        If you observe the teeth of herbivorous animals like the cow, goat and sheep, you will find something strikingly similar in all of them. All these animals have a set of flat teeth i.e. suited for herbivorous diet. If you observe the set of teeth of the carnivorous animals like the lion, tiger, or leopard, they all have a set of pointed teeth i.e. suited for a carnivorous diet. If you analyze the set of teeth of humans, you find that…

      • माननीय श्री निजामुद्दीन जी, अगर इस्लाम में जानवर का मांस खाना अच्छा है तब काबा में व मस्जिदों में जानवर की हत्या क्यों नहीं की जाती ? जब मस्जिद में पेशाब व मल त्याग की व्यवस्था है तब जानवर की हत्या से परहेज क्यों ? अच्छी चीज तो मस्जिद में भी की जा सकती है ! क्या बगैर मांस खाए मुस्लिम जिन्दा नहीं रह सकते ? हिंसक जानवर भी अपनी भूख मिटाने के लिए जानवर को शिकार बनाते है , अगर शेर के बच्चे को शाकाहारी माहौल दिया जाये तोवह शेर भी कभी जानवर की हत्या नहीं करेगा फिर मनुष्य होकर बुद्धिमान होकर भी, ताकतवर होकर भी कमजोर जानवर की रक्षा क्यों न की जाये ? क्या यह मनुष्यता नहीं कहलाएगी ?

      • माननीय राज जी
        मास सेहत के लिए बहुत ही लाभदायक है. ऐसा वैज्ञानिको का भी कथन है! कृपया आप अपने फालतू तर्क लिखने से पहले कुछ अध्ययन भी कर लिया करे! मुस्लिम दुनिया के सबसे वज्ञानिक सोच रखने वाले व्यक्ति है! मास खाने मस्तिस्क भी तेज होता है! मोहमद जी और जाकिर जी की बुद्धिमता का राज मास ही है! मुस्लिम तुम हिन्दुओ की तरह बुतों को नहीं पूजते और तुम मास ना खाने के बावजूद बुतों को पूज रहे हो, कारन मास ना खाने से तुम दिमागी रूप से कमजोर हो !और अल्लाह ने इतने पशु पक्षियों को मनुष्यों के खाने के लिए ही तो बनाया है! कृपया कुछ विचार कीजिये!

      • परम आदरणीय श्री जुबेर जी , संसार की आर्थिक समस्या मांस नहीं बल्कि “रोटी ” है , कोई भी मनुष्य “केवल ” मांस पर निर्भर नहीं रह सकता लेकिन अनाज आदि पर पूरी जिन्दगी काटी जा सकती है ! फिर भी जिसका मनुष्य मांस खाता है वह भी शाकाहारी होता है ! वह भी शाकाहार पर निर्भर है ! मनुष्य को पसीना आता है , घूंट लेकर पानी पीता है, उसको रात के अँधेरे में देखने के लिए किसी रौशनी की जरुरत पड़ती है , उसके दांत भी चपटे है , नुकीले नहीं है , सारी शक्ति के पैमाना हार्सपावर कहलाता है , यानि घोडा उसका प्रतीक है , वह भी शाकाहारी होता है ! अगर मांस खाना अच्छा है तब मस्जिदों में, काबा के अन्दर जानवरों की हत्या मुस्लिम क्यों नहीं करते ? जब मस्जिद में पेशाब व मलत्याग कर सकते है तब जानवर की हत्या भी हो सकती है उससे परहेज क्यों ?अब रही बात बुत पूजा की , जो एक खुदा का दावा करते है वह भी एक पत्थर [किबले ] की दिशा में “ही ” नमाज पढ़ पाते है क्या खुदा जी अन्य जगह नहीं है १ जब यह कहा जाता है खुदा जी सातवे आसमान पर है तब आसमान की ओर मुंह करके नमाज पढ़िए किबले की दिशा पर क्यों? किबले की दिशा में मुस्लिम पैर नहीं करता , सोता नहीं है , थूकता नहीं है, पेशाब नहीं करता , मल त्याग नहीं करता ! क्या यह सब बुतपरस्ती जैसा नहीं है? लेकिन वही मुस्लिम जब रेल आदि में पेशाब आदि करता है तब उसका परहेज नहीं कर पाता है! पत्थर तो पत्थर है वह चाहे क़िबला का हो या कोई और हो ?मुस्लिम तो ज्यादा बड़े बुत परस्त है ! जो मूर्ति पूजा करते है वह वह पेशाब मलत्याग आदि का परहेज नहीं करते है ! जब हज को मुस्लिम जाते है तब परम आदरणीय श्री इब्लीस जी [शैतान ] के प्रतीक स्तंभों पर कंकड़ मारना भी जरुरी है उसके बगैर हज पूरा नहीं हो पाता भले ही किसी भगदड़ में कितने मुस्लिम अनेक बार मर ही क्यों न जाये ?कब्रों को सम्मान, दरगाहो में जाकर मन्नते मांगना ,फूल चढ़ाना ,अगर बत्ती जलाना, चादर चढ़ाना .क्या यह किसी बुत परस्ती से कम है ? मुहम्मद जी अगर बुद्धिमान होते तो मक्का से भाग कर मदीना नहीं जाते ? जब यह दावा किया जाता है की अल्लाह मुहम्मद जी के साथ है तब अपनी जान बचाने के लिए “गारे हिरा” में छिपकर अपनी जान क्यों बचाई ? अल्लाह ने मुहम्मद जी के दुश्मनों को वही समाप्त क्यों नहीं कर दिया ? ईसा जीने तो अपना बलिदान दिया मुहम्मद जी ने बहुत से मनुष्योंकी हत्या की ! ईसा जी ने विवाह नहीं…

      • ईसा जी ने विवाह नहीं किया, जबकि मुहम्मद जी ने अनेक निकाह किये ५० साल की उम्र में ६-७ साल कीपोती सामान कन्या आयशा जी से निकाह किया , बगैर निकाह के जनाब जी[ZAINAB JI ] से सेक्स किया , दासी मरिया कब्ती से बगैर निकाह के सेक्स किया उससे बच्चा भी पैदा किया ?क्या मुस्लिम यह सब कर सकते है १ खुदा जी ने बच्चा दिया क्यों ? फिर बच्चा देकर छीना क्यों ?संसार में सबसे बड़ा दुःख अपनी संतान का अपने सामने मर जाना होता है , खुदा जी के रसूल होने का दावा करने वाले मुहम्मद जी अपनी जब संतान नहीं बचा पाए तब अन्य मुस्लिमो की रक्षा क्या कर पाएंगे , बतलाइए मुहम्मद जी को यह सजा खुदा जी ने किस “कुकर्मो ” की दी ? क्या सभी मुस्लिम के बच्चे मरते है ? जिन मुस्लिम व तथा कथित काफिरों के बच्चे नहीं मरते वह मुहम्मद जी से ज्यादा अच्छे है १ जिन मुस्लिमो ने व काफिरों ने मुहम्मद जी से ज्यादा उम्र पाई वह भी मुहमम्द जी से ज्यादा अच्छे है १ जरा सोचिये मुहम्मद जी कैसे रसूल कहलाये जिनको मुस्लिम दुरुद भेजते हों , जिनके कुकर्म इतने ज्यादा हो की उनको मुस्लिमो की दुरुद की जरुरत पड़ती हो ! अपने अच्छे कर्मो का भरोसा न हो , वह तो सामान्य मनुष्य से भी ज्यादा ख़राब इन्सान कहलायेगा ! राम जी व श्री कृष्ण जी आदि को किसी हिन्दू की प्राथना की जरुरत नहीं पड़ती है , उनको अपने कर्मो का भरोसा होता है ! जरा इस बुनियादी अंतर को भी पहचानिए , तभी मानवता के दर्शन आप कर पाएंगे १ विवेकशील मनुष्य बन पाएंगे !

      • Hello Brother,
        Check or do research that can Lion be a vegetarian. ?
        Yes we humans are intelligent (budhiman creature) on the earth.
        But most knowing and All knowing is Allah. He has given the right or taught us what is right and what is wrong.. Because he is All knowing. He knows best …
        Check out how the animal is sacrificed in Islamic way. You should be surprised..Allah is the most Merciful…
        Why are you crying for eating beaf ? Why are you not crying for cutting down innocent plants to eat ? I bet you, you cant have any answer… You said humans are budhimaan… am sure if you can give a thought, you will surely accept that Allah is the All Knowing and the Most Merciful.. Most compasionate… wakeup brother…

      • @Najmuddin
        Brother you are correct, Fool Veg’s people crying too much for killing the animals & eat them up. We Cannibals & Momins are same category & we never waste energy. Why should Veg’s people cry too much when we eat human flesh? By eating human flesh we are protecting environment.

      • @ Najmuddin,
        Your Comment: – “Check or do research that can Lion be a vegetarian. ?”
        Please learn the intestine and digestive system of carnivorous and herbivorous animals.
        Your Comment: – “Yes we humans are intelligent (budhiman creature) on the earth. But most knowing and All knowing is Allah. He has given the right or taught us what is right and what is wrong.. Because he is All knowing. He knows best …”
        Killing the animals for satisfying your tongue and justifying it by the name of Allah is not a justification.
        Your Comment: – “Check out how the animal is sacrificed in Islamic way. You should be surprised.. Allah is the most Merciful…”
        Whatever way it is – it is so cruel .If the slaughter house walls are made of glass I hope most of the people will be vegetarian. When a cow, buffalo, goat etc is killed for its meat using a knife it suffers from severe physical pain. Their eye bulges out due to pain. Just imagine the severe pain when the sharp knife pierces through its skin. Can we imagine such a situation in which the knife passes through the skin of one whom we love………………..? Show mercy to all the living beings.
        Your Comment: – “Why are you crying for eating beaf ?”
        Because he has mercy to all living beings and he cannot in any way justify killing animals for the satisfaction of the tounge.

      • Continued……….
        Your Comment: – “Why are you not crying for cutting down innocent plants to eat ? I bet you, you cant have any answer…”
        The answer for this question can be understood only by approaching the question with a broad and open mind.
        1. Plants grow and reproduce. So they have life.
        2. It is clear that plants do not have nerves or the pain that passes through the nerves. (Please don’t bring any farmer’s reference to counter this point)
        3. Nature supplies the food materials for all the living organisms for its existence. They are also given the ability and body structure to use whatever materials needed.
        4. When the fruits and leaves of plants are used, the plants will not destroy completely. Most often it will be needed for its proper growth.
        5. When the branches and tender stems are taken from the plants the plants produce more leaves and branches and thereby it gets new energy.
        6. Each fruits contain certain factors which will not be useful to plants for its germination and growth. This naturally attract human beings birds and animals. The fleshy part of Mango, banana, Jackfruit, Apple, Pine apple etc. do not play any role in plant’s growth. But it is a blessing for other animals.
        7. A tree may produce hundreds or thousands of seeds. That means nature may have for seen the natural destruction of some of these seeds. If all these seeds fall at the bottom of the tree and germinate? But it is different in the case of animals. Man can use only the milk and hair of animals without killing them. It is not possible to take pieces from animals.
        8. There is no useless organ or part for an animal. If a part is cut and removed it will not grow again.
        9. The reproductive capacity of animals is not infinite as in the case of plants. Cow, buffalo, Goat etc give birth only 5 to 25 young ones in its life time.
        10. Animals clearly have pain, fear etc. But plants do not have these feelings. When it is killed blood losses from its body as in the case of human beings.

      • 11. In plants the leaves and fruits fall down occasionally. But it is of there in animals. Nature has blessed every organism with the ability to make use of necessary materials for their food, and to search for its food.
        12. Carbon dioxide present in the atmosphere and the salt and minerals in the each are the food for plants and trees. The food for micro organisms is decomposed materials, for soil for earth form, rat for snake other animals for lion and tiger. Nature has divided the type of food for these animals. Even if it contain toxin it will not affect them. It has proved that non vegetarian food leads to a lot of health problems. So man should avoid taking non vegetarian food. Alcohol is a poison which kills a person gradually. Non vegetarian food is similar to this. That is why non vegetarian food is considered as poisonous.
        A common question which is often asked is that if we do not kill these cows and buffalos, will they not increase in number and fill the earth?
        13. There are a lot of animals and birds like elephant, horse, cat, crow, donkey etc which we do not kill. But they do not became over lowded and fill the earth.
        14. Even though there are laws against killing of tiger and lion, their numbers are considerably decreasing.
        15. Dinosaurs which lived before man became extinct completely by nature itself.
        One thing is clear. If man wanted to control the increase in number of plants or animals and there by wanted to preserve the balance of nature, he should first of all start with reducing rate of growth his own species.
        16. Some may have the doubt that is non vegetarian food is against nature, then why not man die as soon as he takes that food? Certain poisons like potassium cyanide, and Tetradodoxyl kills man as soon as he takes of. But there some other poison which kill a man gradually. It may take even years. Death that comes to smoking and drinking is gradual. Non vegetarian food is also like at. Tough non vegetarian food gives temporary energy and vitality it will lead to…

      • continued…………
        to permanent ill health and different kinds of diseases.
        17. Another doubt that occurs off often is that, is it not better to kill the non productive animals than to allow it to die and decompose. But it
        we accept this argument, we should apply it in the case of human beings also. What will happen if we apply this law of killing the non productive animals to man?
        18. Thus it becomes clear that the most appropriate food for human beings is vegetarian food. Even in western countries, vegetarianism has become a trouble way of life. Vegetarian restaurants have spread every where. In western countries development and progress are a journey towards the lap of mother nature. It has become a life style of blessing without killing and using without exploiting.
        It is not possible for us ? The most suitable way for a peaceful mind and body is vegetarianism. Remember this and try to make others remember.
        Your Comment: – “You said humans are budhimaan… am sure if you can give a thought, you will surely accept that Allah is the All Knowing and the Most Merciful.. Most compasionate… wakeup brother…”
        If Allah needs to show mercy to you then you should also show mercy to all the living beings. Don’t kill them for satisfying your tongue. As men can survive with out killing the animals and as the plants can give all required for a healthy life the reason of life cycle which most of the non vegetarians saying is illogical.

      • continued…………
        Some more evidences…………
        “Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet.” – Albert Einstein
        “Nothing’s changed my life more. I feel better about myself as a person, being conscious and responsible for my actions and I lost weight and my skin cleared up and I got bright eyes and I just became stronger and healthier and happier. Can’t think of anything better in the world to be but be vegan.” – Alicia Silverstone
        “I’ve found that a person does not need protein from meat to be a successful athlete. In fact, my best year of track competition was the first year I ate a vegan diet. Moreover, by continuing to eat a vegan diet, my weight is under control, I like the way I look.” – Carl Lewis
        “As custodians of the planet it is our responsibility to deal with all species with kindness, love and compassion. That these animals suffer through human cruelty is beyond understanding. Please help to stop this madness.” – Richard Gere

      • Continued…….
        Some more evidences……………..
        Are humans herbivores? While this is a complex issue, here is some hard evidence.
        Our nails are flattened, and, unlike carnivores, we don’t have sharp, pointed teeth.
        Both humans and herbivores have carbohydrate digestive enzymes in our saliva; while carnivores and omnivores don’t.
        Most importantly, both the carnivores and the omnivores have a colon that is short, simple and smooth, and their stomach acidity is less than pH 1 with food in stomach; Humans, like herbivores, have a very long, complex and sacculated colon, and our stomach acidity is around pH 4 to 5.
        Our long intestine length is designed for a high fibre diet (found only in plant food). Meat does not digest well in such an environment, and often turns toxic, which contributes to colon cancer.
        Carnivores enjoy the act of savaging and the scent of blood. Sharks, for example, are highly aroused by the scent of blood. On the other hand, we cannot tolerate the sounds and cries of animals being killed, and the mere sight of blood is disturbing to us.
        I think these are more than enough for a human being to decide whether to be a vegetarian or to continue as a non vegetarian.

      • @Najmuddin
        Your Comment – “1. Qur’an permits Muslims to have non-vegetarian food”
        If so reject that particular messages of quran to have a healthy life.
        1.The non vegetarian food can cause disease even upto genetic level in the human body. The chances of formation of cancer are high in non vegetarians.
        2.Non vegetarian food contain excess of protein which will affect proper functioning of kidney.
        3.Meat and Egg increases the thickness of the blood vessels and it also increases the amount of cholesterol and saturated acid. Both these causes high blood pressure and heart diseases.
        4.Though the no vegetarians appear outwardly calm, mentally they will be in a Conflicting state. They will be easily affected by the disease called Insomnia.
        5.The details of the research work done by Prof. Vinburg, a famous doctor in Massachusetts institute of Technology in America about non vegetarians are very significant.
        (a)As alcohol and smoking affected brain, Non vegetarian food also affect the brain. Those who take non vegetarian food, because easily get agitated both mentally and physically. Just like the carnivorous animals that that walls in the night for hunting its prey, the non vegetarians will lose their peaceful mental state in the night. They also develop cruelty in them like the flesh eating animals.
        (b)The herbivorous animals like elephant, horse, camel etc gets energy from vegetarian food and they will be calm and soft in nature

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        Your Comment : – “2. Meat is nutritious and rich in complete protein”
        The daily requirement of energy for a normal human being is 2400 calories. We must take food for producing this energy and also for the production of body cells. The most important elements are carbohydrates, fat and proteins. Any of these elements if present in excess amount the body absorbs it and store it in the form of fat in the body. This will lead to obesity.
        A small portion of meat contain a large amount of energy. So if we take a lot of meat it will lead to obesity. In the modern world people do their day to day activities without much physical energy, which leads to the following consequences.
        (1)The cells that store fat grows rapidly,
        (2)The fat set stored in the liver which will result in the enlargement of liver.
        (3)The diseases connected with the digestion and absorption of carbohydrates.
        (4)Increase in the production and storage of carbohydrates
        (5)The blockage in the passage which removes carbohydrates by converting it into various other forms.
        (6)The defects that occurs in the circulation of blood due to the accumulation of fat in the blood vessels.
        (7)Body movements and physical action become very weak.
        (8)The rashes that forms in the skin causes infection which again leads to diseases like Monaligasis
        (9)Erythroschesis, Angina, Eshemic heart disease veinthrombosis, Embolism and some disease connected with circulation of blood in the heart.
        (10)The diaphragm in the lungs get weak. Extra effort for the function of the thorasic part of the longs, respiratory disease like pickwikian syndrome etc.
        (11)The belly formation called Abdominal Apron, Hernia which is caused by the pressure in the stomach.
        (12)Diabetes, Hypel lipideniasis, Gout, Cholestrol Galston etc.
        (13)Mental conflicts, complexes, feeling of alienation etc.
        To free from all these disease modern science recommends the vegetarian way of life.

      • Your Comment:- “3. Humans have Omnivorous set of teeth”
        You are mistaken or misguided by some fake people.The sharp teeth for human is for chewing or breaking the hard type nuts,vegetables etc.Please see the above comments which prove by considering all factors of both type of animals.

  10. @aatish, yeh parh kb kiya keh raha tha Allah ke bare main
    http://agniveer.com/5936/were-buddhists-persecuted-by-hindus/#comment-52831
    tum logon ki ankhon par chashma charha rehta hai, pehle pagal power ne bad language use kari. phir bhi chal main tujhe dusra translation deta hun
    “It is He who has sent down to you, [O Muhammad], the Book; in it are verses [that are] precise – they are the foundation of the Book – and others unspecific. As for those in whose hearts is deviation [from truth], they will follow that of it which is unspecific, seeking discord and seeking an interpretation [suitable to them]. And no one knows its [true] interpretation except Allah . But those firm in knowledge say, “We believe in it. All [of it] is from our Lord.” And no one will be reminded except those of understanding.”
    what is the problem i dont know? if u want hidayat from quran u will get hidayat but if u want gumrahi then it is ur fault. as there are huroof e muqattat like ALM. if i cant understand what is exact meaning of ALM then what is the problem? there are muhkamat which is sufficient for hidayat.

    • arabic_ass
      1. Seeking interpretation is equated to seeking discord in the verse, could not you see that? This verse asks Muslims to not interpret but take meanings literally because (True) interpretation is with Allah alone. (I enjoy the bracket words in contemporary translations because these words are not found in Arabic but added in translations to fool gullible like you)!
      2. If you cant understand ALM then it is Allah’s fault that (i) He made you dumb and (ii) Given that you are dumb, He revealed something that you can never understand.
      What is the use of the verses ALM etc? Why they were revealed?

      • @aatish, do u know arabic? seeking interpretations which is not muhkam like arsh , ALM which u are doing. muhkam ayat are foundation of the book(ummul kitab) and you can have full guidance from ummul kitab.
        kiya tune kb ka woh comment parh liya aur jaan liya ki tum aryasamaji kitne zehrile ho?
        kiya tu koi explanation de sakta hai uski itne gandi language ka?

      • @arabic_az
        I am not here as spokesperson of anyone. I am responsible for my comments alone. So better question my comments only.
        Now something in Arabic! From Quran- (If you know Arabic and know Quran then you must tell me the meaning of this portion)
        Va yahamilu arsha rabbuqa fauqahum yomaijeen samanyatan
        I will ask my question once you tell me the meaning 🙂

    • arabic_ass
      And regarding KB’s comment, you can better ask him but let me say something.
      Jihadis like Zakir Naik and you have maligned Islam, Allah and Muhammad so badly that the world and especially intellectuals dont take them seriously. Jihadis worldwide humiliate Non Muslims, treat them as second class citizens, deny their religious freedom of worshipping and preaching, call idol worshippers/non believers as dirty/worst of creatures etc. They make fun of gods of others. Zakir Naik claimed errors in Vedas, Muhammad in Vedas and what not.
      So Islam in the whole world is known for intolerance and not for spirituality. This is the reason why people make fun of your beliefs more than anything else. You stop humiliating others, others will stop.
      2. But philosophically this question of gender of Allah is valid. If Quran has to be taken literally, which has to be as per Quran itself [3:7], when Allah has face, hands etc then what gender He is, this is valid question. But you dont have any answer for it.

      • @ aatish, i have answered from vedmandir.com but u are getting angry????? when i asked y ur guru is using ishwar ke haath main hai?
        u can say anything regarding kb’s matter it is ur choice but u can never justify his language about Allah.
        zakir naik never used such word nor threatened anybody it is ur filthy mind which give u such answers.
        intolerance like what america is doing in iraq.. where are wmds? really islam is very intolerant, iraqis should have welcomed america with flowers. u r such filthy dirty mind persons that u can never support any innocent.

      • @indian_az
        ________guru is using ishwar ke haath main hai_____________
        If someone use such sentences like Oh, God now my life in your hands. Oh, God now everything in your hands, please help me. If I say now everything in God hands, only God can protect us.
        There is Bhajan
        Ab Sop diya iss jivan ka bhar tumhare hantho me
        Jit tumhare Hatho me aur har tumhare hatho main
        Do you understand meaning of such sentences used by humans.
        & Please do not forget this to answer:-
        http://agniveer.com/5936/were-buddhists-persecuted-by-hindus/#comment-53235

  12. @aatish, you have written”And regarding KB’s comment, you can better ask him but let me say something.
    Jihadis like Zakir Naik and you have maligned Islam, Allah and Muhammad so badly that the world and especially intellectuals dont take them seriously”
    KB is intellectual? wow…hahaha

  13. @atish, here is ur answer “and above them eight shall bear on that day your Lord’s power.”
    now tell me answer regarding loh e mahfooz? you deceiver…

      • @aatish ulluh, if u know the arabic then y are u asking me? fool i have given u translation of ur line. now u tell me about lauh e mehfooz. aryasamji hate monger

      • @arabic_ass
        Still clueless about ‘Power’? 😉
        Ok. Tell me which word corresponds to ‘Arsha’ in your translation and which translation you have used to back your claim?

      • @aatish ullu, how could u get the clue if u dont know arabic? if you know the arabic then y wre u asking? you should enlighten us instead of asking?…….fool.

      • @arabic_ass
        I enlightened you already 🙂 Now dont run away, reply!
        Which word corresponds to ‘Arsha’ in your translation and which translation you have used to back your claim?

  14. @aatish, you are fool, you have written “@arabic_az
    I am not here as spokesperson of anyone. I am responsible for my comments alone. So better question my comments only.”
    when i asked y u are using bad language for me and my parents then u were saying that i have used pagal power and kallu? if u are responsible for ur comments only then y are u using bad language to take others revenge?
    according to quran “And say, “Truth has come, and falsehood has departed. Indeed is falsehood, [by nature], ever bound to depart.” (it is mohkam ayat)

    • @arabic_ass
      You missed the point. What KB or TS write about Islamic philosophy, it is none of my business. I saw you distorted KB’s name days ago and now crying when treated the same way.
      I have moral right to distort your name because you started it on this forum. My intention was never to avenge you but to give you the lesson. Now that this all was started by you, shots are fired from both sides and then for that I say I am not responsible for those. Additionally, concept of Lohe Mehfooz by TS has nothing to do with what I stand for.
      You cant complain me that what TS is saying is wrong and thus I am defeated.

  15. @ VIK , TRUTH SEEKER , PAGAN POWER , AAtish etc
    अल्लाह को समझने की औकात नहीं है तुम लोगों की.
    कुरान पाक को पढो गधों तो तुम्जे समझेगा की अल्लाह ने अपने ही पाक हाथों से आदम को बनाया था.
    पर तुम लोगो के मन में शैतान है इसीलिए तुम ये नहीं समझ पाओगे.
    जाकिर भाई की बात समझो. तुम्हारे वेद में लिखा है “तस्य प्रतिमा न अस्ति” फिर भी तुम लोग मंदिर में सर पटकते हो.
    हा हा हा हा
    इस्लाम ही सच्चा दीन है और हर एक मुसलमान जानत में जाएगा.
    पहले दीन ए इस्लाम में आ जाओ फिर तुम लोग सब समझ जाओगे.
    वरना मूर्ति पूजा करते करते तुम्हारी जिन्दगी बर्बाद हो जायेगी.
    इस्लाम को मानकर कलमा पढ़ लो.
    जाकिर भाई के शागिर्द बन जाओ नहीं तो तुम्हे दोजख में भी जगह नसीब नहीं होगी.
    अल्लाह ने दुनिया पाने हाथ से बनायीं तो क्या हो गया ?
    अल्लाह सब कुछ कर सकता है. अल्लाह तुम्हारे भगवन की तरह से डरपोक नहीं है की कुछ न कर सके.
    अब भी वक्त है की मुस्लिम हो जाओ.
    और अल्लाह सब जानता है

    • @Slave of Islam/Indian_FZ/Faizi
      ______अल्लाह को समझने की औकात नहीं है तुम लोगों की__________
      You are completely wrong. I have read Quran & Understood Allah Miya. I summarize here & I challenge you prove me wrong.
      1. Allah Mian on seventh Sky.
      2. Allah Mian sits on a throne As per Quran.
      3. IN the history of world first case of incest happened due to Allah’s divine Order.
      4. There is no difference between Mohamad & Allah.
      5. This is first & last creation of Allah since eternity. That means Allah was sitting idly before this creation. This creation is first work of Allah like first painting of any painter.
      6. Allah Mian is testing us because he do not know about us as educational exam conducted by Government to test the students.
      7. Allah Mian likes bowing down before stones & Kaba stone his favorite.
      8. Allah Mian gets change as per situation or time. Allah Mian also comes under the time frame. Allah Mian not beyond the time.
      9. Allah Mian can do anything, he can order to to do sex with sister & daughter – in law etc. as per his wish.
      10. Now Allah has changed completely. Allah Mian of past was different because he used to send prophets for the welfare of mankind. But now his nature has been changed & there is a permanent ban on prophet sending.
      List is very lengthy, if you interested i can mail you.

    • @slave of islam zab mai hinduism mai rehta hu mujhe sukun milta hai…aur jab tumlog zakir jaise thought wale aa jate ho man asant ho jata hai……religion peace k liye bani hai humesha yaad rakhna….aur ek baat humlogo ko achhi tarah se patah hai ki bhagwaan ek he hai…baki sab unke alag alag roop hai….humlog agar hamara bhagwan ko murti bana k mane to usme galat kya hai….isse to psychologically aur strong devotion milta hai…as for example:audio-visual teaching or practical is better than reading….grow up man this practice is created by people to connect with good thoughts and god….agar tumlog aise sawal khare karoge to mai v puch sakta hu ki muslim dono hath mila k praying position mai bethke upar niche baar baar karke kyu naamaz parhta hai…allah ko pray karna hai to toilet mai beth k bhi kar sakte ho…..so..don’t spread this silly question…which you don’t know by your heart….you fool….if you go this way you will never rich the truth….you will be slave of islam forever…but not a devoted muslim……

  17. this is my first acquitance with this address n m already sick of this piece of crap slave of islam.this guy seems to be like one of those islamic religious nuts who throw stone on a womam till she drops dead. Seems like the only education he got was from one of those screwed up madrasa where moslem kids are brainwashed.
    I bet hi is one of those psychopaths who think to please alla they should strap abomb to themselves and blow some innocent people.
    And wts this psychobabble bullshit about heaven and hell. Is it goin to make ur life better.
    If ur rich go help sm1 who is poor .

  18. Karnataka and Chattisgarh Assembly passed the controversial cow slaughter ban Bill, which provides for stringent punishment for violaters and makes the offence cognisable and non-bailable.The bill was intended to replace the Prevention of Cow Slaughter and Cattle Preservation Act, Karnataka1964 and Chattisgarh2004, to prohibit the slaughter of cows and calves of she-buffaloes, bull, buffalo male or female.It is also aimed at preservation and improvement of the breeds of cattle and to endeavour to organise agriculture and animal husbandry in terms of Article 48 of the Constitution.
    The bill provides for stringent punishment for violation of the act, and also provides for powers to search and seizure of any premises including vessel or vehicle.

    • Other than banning, Govt should explain people why to oppose Cow slaughtering or Animal slaughtering, per se. Merely banning would not serve the purpose. We need to explain/educate them in a rational manner, why we should not kill Animals.

  19. For the English to Hindi translation, wildlife, biodiversity, forest, Hindi original writing/proof-reading/editing/subtitling, content writing, material collection for book, magazines etc….
    91-9425605432 India, Bhopal, sumit

  20. Robin Sharma, the Management guru used to say “ the words you speak, the food you eat, the thoughts you think, the action you take…. decide your life and destiny.
    So your destiny depends on four factors of which second factor is food. The Upanishads say that yatho anna thatho mana: = what you eat that your mind will be.
    Lion is a lion and tiger is a tiger because of their food also. The blood oozing flesh.
    Professor Vin berg has conducted a series of studies on the behavioral aspects of the above animals when they were fed with vegetarian food.Even cruel animals become mild when food pattern changes to vegetarian. Thus human beings when eat meat show high emotions, anger, over energy and so on.Thus food made of blood oozing flesh of an animal can definitely create terrible negative in the human body.
    World over people are changing to vegetarianism. You also change to vegetarian food. Let your children also enjoy only vegetarian food.The pain suffered by the animals when it is slaughtered is torrential. For getting a minutest feeling of the same, take a small pin and pierce that into your body.An animal has to suffer the pain for such a long period till the last breath is out .Think about the pain , if you are cutting your own throat or that of your family members.Every animal has the same or more pain than human suffering due to its thick skin is to be cut during slaughter using an ordinary knife.It is the criminal mistake done by the parents if they justify by saying that ‘ our children want non veg’

    • Vegetarianism is found to be scientific. According to scholars, the major difference between mammals and others; is availability of ears. So, if you notice some creature with ears, you can safely conclude that these are mammals (assuming it does not have ears cut) – this theory works true with no exceptions. Scientists have explanations for that too, I am not posting here due to space limitations. Same scientists have concluded that difference between a herbivore and a carnivore comes from water consuming habit. Look at lion, tiger, cheetahs etc, if they need to take water, they go to the water body (river, ocean, pond etc.) & take water TONGUE OUT. Rarely any herbivore does that. Herbivores take water matching with the way Humans do. All this is nature’s own mechanism of identification. So, someday if some new species is identified, its traits can be known accordingly. There is a poem written by a Persian scholar. Translated to Hindi, it reads: हिन्दु मरे हुओ को श्मशान में जलाते है – अत: वह रसोईघर जहाँ मरा हुआ पशु जले, श्मशान कहलाए तथा मुस्लिम मुर्दो को कब्रिस्तान में दफ़नाते है अत: वह पेट जहाँ मुर्दे पशु दफ़नाए जाए कब्रिस्तान ही है। Scientists support veg diet. Proof::: http://www.godsdirectcontact.org/eng/news/160/vg5.htm

      • @ God is Great,
        Some of the sceintific evidences.
        1)Our nails are flattened, and, unlike carnivores, we don’t have sharp,pointed teeth.
        2)Both humans and herbivores have carbohydrate digestive enzymes in our saliva; while carnivores and omnivores don’t.
        3)Most importantly, both the carnivores and the omnivores have a colon that is short, simple and smooth, and their stomach acidity is less than pH 1 with food in stomach; Humans, like herbivores, have a very long, complex and sacculated colon, and our stomach acidity is around pH 4 to 5.
        4)Our long intestine length is designed for a high fibre diet (found only in plant food). Meat does not digest well in such an environment,and often turns toxic, which contributes to colon cancer
        5)Carnivores enjoy the act of savaging and thescent of blood. Sharks, for example, arehighly aroused by the scent of blood.On the other hand, we cannot tolerate thesounds and cries of animals being killed, andthe mere sight of blood is disturbing to us.

      • Science says: Human body not suited for meat related diet. There are many references to support that. Some of them can be found here:
        hitxp.com/articles/society/moral-vegetarianism/
        hitxp.com/articles/society/vegetarianism-facts/
        stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/09/are-humans-carnivores-or-herbivores-2/
        blog.atmajyoti.org/2008/04/humans-are-we-carnivores-or-vegetarians-by-nature/
        letthemeatmeat.com/post/430287173/are-humans-carnivores-omnivores-or-herbivores
        peta.org/living/vegetarian-living/The-Natural-Human-Diet.aspx
        vegsource.com/news/2009/11/the-comparative-anatomy-of-eating.html
        examiner.com/healthy-living-in-allentown/are-humans-carnivores-herbivores-or-omnivores
        Most important::: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7T-CS1TJf8

  21. I am directly going to points.
    1. Suppose someone cooked beef in a cooker. Can any Hindu use that cooker and the spoon, used in cooking beef, any more?
    2. If that spoon touches another cooker, is it permit-able to any Hindu to eat foods cooked in that second cooker any more?
    3. If a cleaning sponge used in cleaning a cooker used for cooking beef, or just heating the cooked beef, can that sponge be used further?

    • @Kawrno:
      1. Suppose someone cooked beef in a cooker. Can any Hindu use that cooker and the spoon, used in cooking beef, any more?
      Depends on that Hindu, now, doesnt it?
      2. If that spoon touches another cooker, is it permit-able to any Hindu to eat foods cooked in that second cooker any more?
      Eh…we Hindus dont have bunch of Muftis with unshaven beards directing us to what is halaal and what is haraam and who is a Hindu and who is a non-Hindu. A general concensus evolves about how to deal with things and most Hindus will be happy to go along.
      3. If a cleaning sponge used in cleaning a cooker used for cooking beef, or just heating the cooked beef, can that sponge be used further?
      Again, we Hindus dont have bunch of Muftis with unshaven beards directing us to what is halaal and what is haraam. A general concensus evolves about how to deal with things and most Hindus will be happy to go along.
      Now, replace beef with pork in all your questions and let me know what YOUR answers are.

      • Now, replace beef with pork in all your questions and let me know what YOUR answers are.
        How could I know? I am a Hindu. I asked this question because in Bangladesh (I am a Bangladeshi by the way) every Hindu student faces these problems in the student hostels. Some says that it’s ok, we are not eating beef, so we have no problem with the spoons, cooker etc and this kind of problem is very childish. And some says that no, this IS a problem and those should not be used by any Hindu. And the most disgusting thing, at least to me, most of the Bangladeshi brahmins eat beef, and may be you will be shocked, beef is their favourite dish! As far I know, brahmins should never eat any meat. So they are not reliable with this fact, the answers of these question.

  23. Thus the body of an individual is the product of the food and the environment where he was born and brought up. The body was initially given by the parents and the duty of the parents is to see that it is not built up using bad food. The body can accommodate to some extent some of the bad constituents but not for a long period and all type of poisons. That is the reason why, when people eat non veg, drink liquor, smoke, and eat many types of products, the body reacts against it. That reaction and action are the diseases. The highest number of patients in all branch of illness can be seen in India. Primarily, it is told that lakhs of cows and buffaloes are slaughtered, majority of them are sick and slaughter done under unhygienic conditions. They are the carrier of many diseases and the germs to human body. Hence, let the parents take care to bring up your children as good vegetarian which is the civilized and cultured life. Never cultivate the habit of making your children eat the blood and flesh of animals. If one has fallen in the culture of taking bribe, drinking liquor, taking drugs, then it is difficult to bring him back. Like that, it is difficult to bring your children back from non vegetarian food. Hence never start non veg in your home.

  25. If we can live without killing or harming animals, it is most excellent. I have one problem with regard to vegetarian diet as opposed to a vegan diet. In vegetarian diet, milk and dairy products are allowed and people use these liberally (milk, cheese, butter, ghee, etc..) Now, the point I make is that the dairy cows are much abused in many countries and suffer much more pain than beef cattle. In most countries, if not in all, the dairy cows are also killed for meat when they stop producing enough milk. If I was given only two choices for reincarnation in my next life, I would choose to be born as a beef cattle rather than a dairy cow. So, we should also be speaking out about the suffering of animals in the dairy industries, too! The offering of milk to Gods is akin to offering a product that is derived from causing great suffering to the cows. This is something the Hindu community should think deeply about. Hindus should go VEGAN …, it’s the only way out of this somewhat “double standard” we see.
    Sorry I digress from the tolpic somewhat, but I think my point needs to be considered.

    • Dear Tim! I support your initiative. But, it is not as easy as you are thinking it to be. As per a survey, 86% workers take either tea OR coffee to get some energy. Again, both of these are widely used in many countries. And I need not mention that milk is important ingredient in both of them. Also, curd is proven to contain health benefits (if consumed within some limit.)
      Also, one needs to see the conclusion. Beef cattle is given death penalty for being a cattle while dairy cattle is alive but abused. So, the point which you put relates to age old debate question – CAPITAL PUNISHMENT & LIFELONG IMPRISONMENT: Which of the 2 is better? Though both of these are worse, the betterment seems confusing. Some consider that capital punishment is better as life imprisonment kills by degrees while some say that indeed lifelong imprisonment is better as it is better to remain alive somehow.
      Anyways, what you are saying is mandatory. Movements have started worldwide to reduce meat intake. Soon movement to reduce sufferings of dairy cattle must be started.

    • Dear Tim,
      What you are saying is an unfortunate true in many countries and hence your advice is worthwhile. However in India, that is not the case. Though some amount of commercialization has happened, cattle abuse does not take place. In Goshalas, cow first feeds the calf and then milk is extracted for public use. Thus consuming milk is not double standard here. For other countries, we appeal all to follow whatever is best course of action in terms of compassion.

      • On side – I hope you go into Sati. I heard there is nothing in it in the Vedas. Missionaries bring up two non-Veda writings where something about having the option of going into the pyre is mentioned. It would be helpful to know more on that and flesh that out like you have other scriptures. No one I know came from a Jati that did Sati. There was a census taken in the mid 19th century and in a popuation of 50 million Indians in India, there were only 600 cases of Sati.From my understanding it is not Vedic, It was never wide spread among jatis, In fact, many more Europeans were burned at the stake for witch craft thanks to the biblical versus saying never to suffer a witch to live, yet though witch killing is more directly from the bible, Christianity is not associate with it as much as Sati is with Hinduism though Sati is not in the Vedas, and vast majority of jatis never had Sati.

    • People confuse with ‘vegetarian/vegan’ with Saivite food. In Tamilnadu, we not call ‘Shakaahaari food’. We call it Saivite food. The meaning is it is the food of the followers of Lord Siva, or the food of the people who follow the teaching of Siva. Saiva Sidhdhaantha says, ‘Siva is love, Siva is against killing.’ Hence Saivites are against willful killing. The food they eat is not killed. Hence Saivites eat dairy products, which are obtaining by not killing any animals. Since there is no direct translation for Saivite food, Westerners started using the word ‘Vegetarian food’ loosely since most of the food is vegetarian in origin. Perhaps, it was translated into Hindustani from English as ‘Shaakhaahaari food’ later. Again, to differentiate between ‘Saivite food’ and ‘pure vegetarian food’, a word ‘vegan’ was coined.
      Please do not advise ‘Hindus should go VEGAN. First, understand before going on attack mode and advising. Hindus do not go attacking other religions unnessarily. They respect all. Hence I do not understand why other religious people are eager to attack the tenets of Hinduism. Maybe they are afraid of the universal truth in ‘Sanathana Dharma’ — Hindusim?

  27. Comments have been based on real meanings outlined by the Rshis but a lot needs to be done to clear the clouds surrounding such misinterpratations. I wish to be kept updated on the comments.
    Thanks.
    Regards.

    • @hinduagnostic : Anything that is not in line with the veda is to be rejected,vedas say that any being that can be a mother or a father should not be killed.

  32. Ya aamam maansamadanti paurusheyam cha ye kravih
    Garbhaan khaadanti keshavaastaanito naashayaamasi
    Atharvaveda 8.6.23
    We ought to destroy those who eat cooked as well as uncooked meat, meat involving destruction of males and females, foetus and eggs.
    Yadi no gaam hansi yadyashwam yadi poorusham
    Tam tvaa seesena vidhyaamo yatha no so aveeraha
    Atharvaveda 1.16.4
    If someone destroys our cows, horses or people, kill him with a bullet of lead.
    Hi Bros,
    If people were to literally follow these verses and go about killing / destroying meat eating people saying these are the words of god and thus the ultimate truth, as Islamists do today citing phrases from their holy book, would you condone their action saying alas it’s there in the Vedas so that’s what the almighty really wanted? I am just trying to point out what I consider as a great flaw when we say that a book (or books) is the teachings of god or the ultimate truth.
    Regards,
    Vinu

  33. Hi Agniveer, first of All, I would like to congratulate you for the wonderful work that you guys are doing for Hinduism. Some bastards like Zaid Hamid trying every thing to malign Hinduism.
    This is the right time that religious scholars should come forward and give them right reply. Otherwise there are most of middle class literate hindus, who are religious ignorant will be there easy target of conversion.

    • Property rights as per Vedas do not differentiate between men and women. Refer http://agniveer.com/manu-smriti-and-women/ section on Property Rights.
      Also RigVeda 10.61.7:
      Pita Yat Swam Duhitaram Adhi Skan Kshamaya retah Sanjagmaano Nishinchat: That father who has attempted to create progeny with his wife should accept his daughter as his heir.
      Su Adhyah Devah Brahma Ajanayan: Contemplative noble people believe in this knowledge that
      Swam Duhitaram Vaastoh Patim: Ones own daughter becomes the inheritor
      Vrata Paam Nir Atakshan: From her obtain future progeny.
      In case the child born is a daughter, he should consider daughter as the inheritor and obtain future inheritors through daughter. In other words, whether it is son or daughter, does not make a difference.

  35. Because the gestation period of cows is almost exactly the same as for humans, their flesh is vibrationally equivalent to human flesh. Therefore, eating any Bos species, e.g.
    B Indicus or B. Taurus, has the same vibrational effect and karmic consequences
    as cannibalism!!!
    No better reason for avoiding beef !!

    • @Sampath Kumar
      Should you not have a better reason for NOT posting this lame piece of crap ? Though your perception is irrelevent to the article but still for a better understanding would you mind detailing on the term ” Vibrationally Equivalent ” and How it becomes comparable to Cannibalism ?

      • quran me bhi dusre sandarbh me cow[gaay] ki bat ayi hai dekhe quran2/67-73 jisme kisi vishesh gaay ki hatya karke uske mans ko kisi murde ko chulane par vah murda jivit hokar apne hatyare ka nam batlakar fir se mar jata hai ! kya yah kahani kabhi sachhi ho skti hai abhi kuch sal pahale pakistan ki bhutpurv pradhan mantri begam benazeer bhutto ko kuch islami atankvadiyo ne din dahade khule aam unki hatykarke bhag gaye the tab kisi vishsh gaay ke mas ko chula karke begam benazeer bhutto ko jivitkarke isalmi desh pakistan ki sarkar ne qurani chamatkar[tareeka] fir se kyo nahi pesh kar diya ? kya quran ki yah kahani kabhi sachhi ho sakti hai ? agar sabhi muslim bhi quran ki yah gaay vali kahani ko sahi sabit kar de kisi janwar ya kisi bhi murde manshy ko ek gaay kya kai lakh gaay ki hatya karke uske mans se kisi bhi murde ko jivit kar de to ham kuran par astha rakhne ke liye vichar kar sakte hai varna sabhi padhe likhe muslim samajhdar muslim,sachhai ko pasand karne vale muslim manvtavadi muslimo ko “turant ” quran ki sangati chhod deni chahiye ! ham puchna chahenge ki quran ne is jhuthi kahani ka sahar kyo liya ?kya sachaai bhut kal vartman kal aur bhavishykal me saman nahi hoti hai ? kya hamare muslim bandhu hamari chunauti ko svikar karne ka sahas dikhlayenge ? aise hi quran me 2/65aur 5/60me kisi giroh ko kurani allah ka kahana na manne par unko bandar aur suwarbana diya tha ham apne muslim bandhuo se puchna chahenge ki kurani allah ne kis tarike se un giroho ko bandar v suwar banaya tha ? aj bhi to karib is duniya me 75% gair muslim hai jo kuran ki bat nahi mante hai vah kyo nahi suwar v bandar bana diye gaye ? kuran ne is jhuthi kahani ka bhi sahara kyo liya kya koi muslim iska javab dena chahenga ?

  36. @Raj.Hyd Ji
    Aapne khud ko vastawikta se kaheen bohot upar aank rakh hai kintu Main apko yaad dilana chahta hun k Aap bhi ek sadharan manushya hi hain auron ki tarha. Apki Islam mein aastha ho jane ya na hone se Islam ka koi bolbala hojaye aisa bhi nahi hai.
    Jin Verses( 2:67- 72) se apko apatti hai wo Ek Khas Ghatna/chamatkar ka varnan karti hain jo prophet Moses (pbuh) tatha israeli logon k beech ki hai. Qur’an ko jhoota sabit karne ki jaldibazi mein aapne wohi tareeka benazeer bhutto k hatyaron ko khojne mein upyog karne ka sujhaw de diya.. hasya aspad !!
    Shriman ! aapne jis kushalta se us tareeke ko Islam ka ek general rule sabit karne ki viphal koshish ki hai kya aap usi kushalta se ye batane ka kasht karenge ke Qur’an ki wo kaun si aayatein hain jo kisi bhi kaal mein kisi ki bhi hatya hojane pe cow sacrifice wale usi tareeke ka upyog karne ko kehti hai ??? Agar aap apni asamarthta vayakt karte hain to fir pathako ko ye samajhne mein der na lagegi ke Jhoota kaun hai….

    • @ the islamist ji, agar ham kahe ki ham ishwar ho gaye hai !ya niyukt ho gaye hai ya hamko rasool bana diya gaya hai ! tab kya aap ya any manushy isko svikar karlenge ?isko bhi chamatkar kyo nahi man ja sakta ? yah chamatkar kya hota hai ? yani jo jhuthi bat ho usko chamatkar ke nam par jhuth ko svikar kar liya jaye? n kabhi gaay ke mans se kabhi koi murda jivit ho sakta tha aur n kabhi age hoga ? lathi kabhi sanp nahi banti , chand ke 2 tukde kabhi nahi ho sakte? farishto ka kabhi vajud nahi hota ibrahim ne apni santan ke badle kisi medha[janwar] ki bali nahi ki ! 6 din me yah sansar nahi bana, sat asman nahi hote , muahmmd ji ko kabhi meraz nahi ho sakti ! kuran kabhi ishvar ki vani nahi ho sakti yah sab jhuthi bate chamatkar ke nam sachhi nahi kahi ja sakti! isliye ishwar ne sharir me mastishk bhi diya hai kuch sochiye vichar kijiye aur sath me har bat ki janch bhi kijiye lakir ki fakir ki tarah har bat mat maniye !!

  37. @the islamist,bhai jaan ye mans khane na khane ka sawal nahi hai.sawal hinsa ka hai.agar mans ped par lagta to koi bhi virodh ki baat nahi thi par jab ek prani ki hatya kar ke uski jaan le ke koi uska mans khata hai to vo paap hai.ab ye paap do karno se hai,jab tumko khane ko aur sadhan hai,aur phir bhi tum mans kha rahe ho to paap hai.par jab tumari jaan hi ja rahi ho aur bina mans khaye tum zinda nahi rahte to vo paap nahi hai.par sirf aadat ke karan mans kha rahe ho to paap hai.ahinsa ke mane to jab hum sans lete hai to lakho jeev mar jaate hai,upwas vrat karte hai to pet ke andar ke jeev marte hai,hum khud apna mans khana shuru karte hai.to ahinsa ka palan karna tatva ke sakshatkar ke bina asanbhav hai.jab tak koi ye nahi jaan leta ki yaha koi bhi marta nahi aur maarta nahi,aatma amar hai.tab tak ye ahinsa ki baate karna uchit nahi.mahaveer ki ,buddha ki ahinsa alag hai.unko ped,pashu,jal,aanna,hawa,inme bhi jeev hai unme bhi parmatma dhikhai diya.to ye karuna se bhar gaye ki inki hatya karna sanbhav hi na ho paya.mahaveer saal me ek din hi bhojan karte the.par ye koi mahaveer hi kar sakta hai.jiski aisi karuna ho vaisa koi bhi kar sakta hai.

  38. @ jai shankar ji
    Abhi tak maine maans khane ke na to paksh mein aur na hi vipaksh mein kuch bhi kaha tha fir aap is vishay pe charcha hi kyun kar rahe hain mujhse ? Ab jab vishay nikal hi aaya hai to chaliye do baatein ho jaayein.
    To aap maans khane ke viruddh hai.aagey apke anusar jeev hatya kar maans khana hinsa ka roop hai artharth jaghanya paap hai agar apke paas khane ke aur bhi sadhan hain… chaliye yahan tak theek hai…
    aap fir kehte hain ke yehi jeev hatya tab hinsa nahi kehlati jab jeevan raksha ke liye maans khana anivarya ho jaaye. tab yehi hatya,yehi hinsa jeevan rakhshak ho jati hai….
    Shankar Ji ! mera aapse sawal ye hai ke ye dohre maapdand kyun ? Kisne apko ye adhikar diya ke aap apne pran bachane ke liye kisi prani ki hatya kar uske maans ka sevan kar sakte hain ? aakhir manushya ke pran ka itna Mahatva kyun ke uske pran bachane ke liye kisi nirdosh jeev ki hatya kar di jaaye ? tab Kya aap Swarthi nahi ban jante ? tab apke jeevon ke prati ahinsavadi dhakosle lupt kyun ho jate hain ? Agar aisa karna anyay nahi hai to iska karan hai apki manyata evam apki dhaarna….
    Kaisi manyata ya dhaarana??? Manyata ye ke Manushya bhagwan ke banaye hue baaki saare praniyon se shreshth hai,uska jeevan amulya hai,atulniya hai..atah Manushya sarvshreshth prani hai..
    Qur’an 95:4 bhi yehi kehta hai “We have indeed created man in the best of moulds” aur vastawikta bhi yehi hai.
    Na to Qur’an Maans khane se rokta hai aur na hi apka Ved. apki ikcha ho to aap khayein na ho to na khayein.

    • The Islamist ji ,kisne kaha ki maushy bada hai uske liye hi sab kuch hai kyaaapne sabne jabnnvaro ki seva karte huye nahi dekha hai kya kamau ghode ke liye malish karte huye manushy nahi dekhe gaye hai /aura manshyo ko bhi raja mantri saansad adi ki seva karte huye v desh ki khatir apni jan dete huye javan nahi sune v dekhe gaye hai ? manushy se bada vichar hota hai! ek vishesh vichar ki khatir vyakti uske prati kartvashil rahata hai, uske liye apni jan bhi sharsh nyochavar kar deta hai apna balidan de deta hai ! batlaiye fir manushy kaha bada raha gaya ? yah sari kaaynaat[sansar] manushy ke vaste kahan hua ? kya aap bhi islam muhammad ji v kuran ke liye jaan dene ke atur nahi ho jate ? fir ap jaise manushy kaha bade rah gaye ?

  39. @the islamist,bhaijaan,aap tark de rahe hai iska matlab aap ko kuch buddhimani hai ye pata chalta hai.magar aap sirf buddhi se kaam chalate to aap insan nahi kahlayenge.kyoki aap me sirf buddhi hi nahi hai us se bhi jyada kuch hai,jise nitishastra,bhavshastra,vicharshastra kahate hai.aadmi aur janvar me yahi buniyadi bhed hai.janvar ke paas aadmi se bhi jyada akal hai,ex. aadmi ki naak ki sungne ki shakti kam hai,par kutte ki jyada,raat ko aadmi dekh nahi pata magar ullu,billi,sab dekhte hai.to ye jo vichar niti hai is se aadmi aur janvar me fark hua.aap agar vicharshil hai to aap ko pata chalega ki aadmi mansahari hai ki shakahari.agar aadmi mansahari hota to kaccha maans ko khana chahiye.ye usko paka ke kha raha hai,swad le raha hai,ye sabit karta hai ki vo mansahari nahi hai.

  40. @the islamist,bhaijaan,aap tark de rahe hai iska matlab aap ko kuch buddhimani hai ye pata chalta hai.magar aap sirf buddhi se kaam chalate to aap insan nahi kahlayenge.kyoki aap me sirf buddhi hi nahi hai us se bhi jyada kuch hai,jise nitishastra,bhavshastra,vicharshastra kahate hai.aadmi aur janvar me yahi buniyadi bhed hai.janvar ke paas aadmi se bhi jyada akal hai,ex. aadmi ki naak ki sungne ki shakti kam hai,par kutte ki jyada,raat ko aadmi dekh nahi pata magar ullu,billi,sab dekhte hai.to ye jo vichar niti hai is se aadmi aur janvar me fark hua.aap agar vicharshil hai to aap ko pata chalega ki aadmi mansahari hai ki shakahari.agar aadmi mansahari hota to kaccha maans ko khana chahiye.ye usko paka ke kha raha hai,swad le raha hai,ye sabit karta hai ki vo mansahari nahi hai.tum kahoge ki fir ye sabjiya paka ke kyo khata hai,to ye sirf usko hajam hove is karan uski jo dant aur pet ki rachna hai vo shakahar se bhi najuk chiz khane ke liye bani hai.sabhi fruits pakaye nahi jate.

  41. @the islamist,bhaijaan,manushya ke upar agar ye nirbhar hota ki kya sahi hai aur kya galat to kitna accha hota.bhir ye baat khane tak hi simit kyo hai?manushya aapne aapne vichar se bhi swatantra hona chahiye,koi bhagwan ko idols se puja kare ya bina idols ke,ya koi usko mane hi na.to phir ye to manushya ki manmani ho jayegi aisa tum kahoge.vichar par to tum kahte ho eshwar ko manushya ko kya karna chahiye aur kya nahi.par khane par us kabhi halal ya haram chize batana ye kahatak sahi hai.agar quran me maans khana haram hota to tum maans nahi khate,aisa hi na ?to tum maans kha rahe ho iska karan quran hai.tum suvar ka maans nahi khate par isai to khate hai,chinawale khate hai.ye allah ne suvar banaya hi kyo??na banata na khane ki noubat aati.ab tum inko dekhna bhi pasand nahi karte.par ye to galikuche me phalphul rahe hai.

  42. muslim bandhu suwar ka nam lena bhi pasand nahi karte hai fir kya yah suwar ko banne vale ki tauheen nahi hai ? kuran me to apatkal me me suwar ka mans khane ko bhi chhut di hai !fir suwar ke nam se parhej muslim bandhuo ko kyo hai ?

  43. @ raj.hyd
    ohhh ! prateet hota hai humne apki kisi dukhti rag pe hath dhar diya.aap to kunthit ho uthe maharaj.. aapne humara anurodh swikar nahi karke humare sawal ka jawab nahi diya. Raj ji sach to ye hai ke aap lajawab ho chuke they. Qur’an ki ek bhi aayah us samudaye vishesh k liye kiye gaye chamatkar ko ek general rule ki tarha lagoo karne ko kehti hi nahi.
    ab aap aarop gadh rahe hain ke Islami chamatkar saare jhoothe hain aur buddhiman logon ko inper vishwas nahi karna chahiye… aapke aisa kehne ka karan spasht hai ke ye baatein apko asangat dikhthi hain. main Vedon ke chamatkar to aapko fir kabhi dikhla dunga usse pehle mooh tod jawab ke roop mein main apko ek aisa chamatkar hun jispe apko bhi utna hi bharosa jitna humein.
    Ishwar/Allah/God …. Inhe jis bhi naam se bula lijye lekin inme apki aastha to hai hi. Ishwar ka hona hi ek chamatkar hai. kyun vishwas hai apko uspe jisey na to aapne dekha hai na bolte hue suna hai aur na hi uske astitva ki koi jankari hi apke paas mein hai. uska swayam kaheen se prakat hokar saari rachnayein kar dena kya Illogical nahi lagta hai ? Vedon ne keh diya ke Ishwar hai aur aapne maan bhi liya ? bohot khoob… kintu ab aap apni buddhi se uske hone ko pramanit nahi karna chahenge jis tarha kisi chamatkar ke hone ka praman mangte hain ? Kya ab aap ise matr kalpana nahi kahenge..kya ab yeh jhoota nahi hai ????
    apke paas do hi vikalp bachte hain.. Ya to vishwas karna hoga ke chamatkar hote they aur hue hain ya fir pramanit karna hoga us andhekhe ansune Ishwar ko jispe atoot vishwas hai apka…

    • @The islamist ji , ham kunthit kyo honge ? yahchamatkar kya hota hai jhuthi bate chahe ved ki kitab me ho yakuran adi vah manne ke kabil hargij nahi hai !andhe bankar koi bhi bat manna pasand nahi karte hai ? ishwar kabhi prakat nahi hota hai ? ishwar kya hai ? ishvar ek chetan shakti ka nam ishwar hai ? kya bijli ka karent kabhi dikhta hai kya manushy ke hone vale dard ko koi dekh paya hai kya hava dikhti hai ? kya bhukh kabhi dikhti hai yah sab mahasus ki jati hai sansar ki rachana manushy ke ankh kaan nak adi ko dekh karke , apne v sab ke jivan ko dekh karke ishwar ki shakti mahasus hoti hai ! ab ap isko chamatkar kahiye ya rozana hone vali ghatnyaye ? jo saty hota hai vah trikal saman hota hai yani vartman me bhi , bhutkal me bhi v bhavishy kal me bhi vah sambhav hona chahiye ! jab ishwar ko is tarah se samjha hai tab usko mana hai kisi kitab me padhkar ishwar ko kadapi nahi mana hai!

  44. .
    @ jai shankar ji
    apne mere prashn ka koi uttar hi nai diya jab Maine aapse poocha tha agar samanya jeevan mein jeev hatya kar maans khana apradh hai to apne pran raksha ke liye jeev hatya kar uska maans kha lena jeevo ke prati hinsa kaise nahi hai ? ye adhikar apko kisne de rakha hai ? jeevo ke pran se zyada apka pran itna mahatvapoorn kyun ? ye dohre maapdand kyun?
    Maine to swikar kiya hi ke manushya Allah ke banaye hue sabhi praniyon mein shreshth hai aur Maans ke sevan se na to Qur’an aur na hi Ved apko rokte hain. Lekin ab aap kehte hain ke Jeevo ko humse zyada akal hoti hai aur udahran diya ke Kutte soongh sakte hain,billiyan.ullu raat ke andhere mein dekh sakte hain ityadi ityadi….
    Shankar Ji… aapne kaha main buddhiman hun kyun ke maine tark sangat baat kahi hai iska dhayawad. Kash main bhi apke liye aisa kuch keh sakta.Lekin apke tark se lagta hai ke sach mein apke andar jaanvaro jitni akal bhi nahi hai. bura na maniyega..samjhata hun kaise.
    Billi,ullu,sher,cheeta adi .. inki raat ke andhere mein dekh paane ki akshamta… Kutte ke sungh paane ki shakti.. aadi ka Akal ya buddhi se kya lena dena ? ye unki swabhavik khoobiyan hai shriman na ke unke akal ka kamal..
    waise to topic jeev hatya kar maans khane ka tha lekin aap ise kisi nayi disha mein hi lekar jaa rahe hain… Maan bhi lein ki apka tark uchit hai aur jaanvar humse adhik buddhiman hain to fir aap hi bata dijye ke apne pran bachane ke liye unki hatya karne ko aap uchit kaise thehrate hain jab unke maans se apni bhook ko tript karna apki nazar mein hinsa hai ???

  45. @the islamist,bhaijaan,aap ek baat bataye,ye eshwar,allah,god bina aadmi ke kyo nahi rahte?inko aadmi ki jarurat kyo padati hai? Aadmi+belief=eshwar,allah,god aisa samikaran kyo hai?ye aadmi bina belief kiye bhi eshwar ko jaan sakta hai.to ye beliefs ka itna hangama,jabardasti,kis liye ki ja rahi hai.agar kisi ko pyas lagi ho to vo khud pani ki talash me lagega.magar kisi ko pyas hi na lagi ho aur tum use majburan pani pilaoge to kya ye jurm nahi hoga? Allah,god,eshwar ki jisko pyas hai usko kisi belief ki koi jarurat nahi padti.kya muhammad ne allah me belief kiya tha?sirf satya ki pyas chahiye to uska anubhav hota hai,usko phir tum eshwar,allah,god kuch bhi kaho.ved belief nahi sikhate khoj se hi eshwar milega aisa batate hai,khoj ki chah badhate hai.ved ke mane gyan,belief nahi.sirf jigyasa hi aadmi ko eshwar ke darshan karane me shayak hoti hai.bina khoje,bina talashe allah me vishawas karna tarksangat nahi hai,kisi ke bhi liye.kyoki eshwar,allah,god ye nijta me hi ,akelepan me hi milte hai,muhammad bilkul akele the tabhi unko vahya hua.sab ke samne ,ya bheed me allah ne unse baate nahi ki.jitna aadmi akela hota hai utna hi satya ke karib hota hai.ekant me baithne ka mahatva ved ke rishi ne sabse pahle jaana.sabhi rishi jungle me akele dhyan karte the.

  46. @the islamist,bhaijaan, main tumko thodi der ke liye hosihyar billi manata hu.naraj mat hona,dekho ab tum billi ho aur hoshyar billi jo likh sakti hai,bol sakti hai.tumko ek dhram granth likhna hai,to tum usme vahi baate likhoge jo tumko pasand ho,chuha tumara sabse pasandida hoga.kutta tumara dushman hoga.ab ek aisi hi kitab kutte ne bhi likhi to uske hisab se haddi pasandida hogi.bade janvar uske dushman honge.phir aayegi aadmi ki bari to vo sab janvar ko nicha kahega,uska maans khana ,unko gulam banana,aisi baate likhega.to ye aadmi jo janvar kah raha hai vahi to baat kah raha hai.ye aadmi shresth kaise aur kaha se ho gaya? Tumari jaan mushkil me hai aur tum agar marne ki halat me ho,to tum maans kha sakte ho iska matlab manushya shresth hai aisa nahi hai.agar tum kamjor ho gaye to ye janvar tumko khayenge,tum inka bhojan banoge,iske pahle ki ye tumko khaye tum inko khavo.sirf jaan bachane ke waqt aisa maine kaha tha.kya tum apna maans kutte ko khane doge? Agar itni daya aur karuna tum me hoti, to tum aadmi ke bhich me rahna chod janvaro ke bhich rahana pasand karte.

  47. @ jai shankar ji
    Pehle to main apse nivedan karunga ke ek vishay pe jab tak charcha khatam na hojaye tab tak doosre vishay ko saamne na layein. charcha Maans khane pe ho rahi hai aur jab tak aap meri baaton se sehmat nahi ho jaate ya main apki batein na maan lun tab tak charcha ka koi nishkarsh nai niklega…
    chaliye aage badhte hain…aapne apne comment mein likha
    “quran me maans khana haram hota to tum maans nahi khate,aisa hi na ? to tum maans kha rahe ho iska karan quran hai.”
    Keh to aap aise rahe hain jaise maans khana ek jaghanya apradh hogaya. Haan sahi kaha agar Qur’an mein ye haram hota to Muslims maans nahi khate. Lekin aapko apatti kyun hai ispe ? kyunki Qur’an ki ye baat apke halak ke paar nahi hoti isliye ya kewal isliye ke aapko aisa lagta hai ?
    Pehle to aapne bhi kaha tha pran raksha ke liye maans kha sakte hain.To apradh tab kyun nahi hai shriman ji..yehi to pooch raha hun main kabse….
    Raha sawal kya kewal Qur’an hi hai jo Maans khane ki swatantrata hai ya fir Veda mein bhi Maans khane ke praman milte hain…. ???
    To aap kewal Agniveer ji ke gyan pe nirbhar nahi reh sakte… kyun ???
    http://islamhinduism.com/hinduism/analysis/164-beef-eating-in-vedas-and-other-hindu-texts
    Ye padh lijye pehle fir baat karte hain… kam se kam iske baad aap kewal Qur’an ko katghare mein khada nahi kar sakenge…..

    • the islamist ji, jo kuran ko nahi mante ya jinhone kabhi kuran nahi dekhi hai vah bhi mans khate hai ? muslimandhvishvasi bhi hote hai isliye agar kuran me mans ka virodh hota to muslimshayd mans mnahi khate sharab ka virodh hai lekin kai karod muslim sharab pi liya karte hai aur kai karod muslim sharab ki or dekhna bhi pasand nahi karte hai ! duniya me har jagah mans hamesha “vivadit” raha hai” mansahari vshakahari do adhar bangaye hai lekim genhu hari ya chaval hari adi ka adhar nahi ban paya hai ? manushy ka jivan ek janvar ke ke mukable me mahatvpurn hai tab apatkal me apni jan bachane ke liye kuch log janvar ka mans khane ka samarthan kar sakte hai lekin ham chahenge ki tab bhi janvar ka mans nahi khaya jaye ? janvar ko bhi jine ka adhiikar milna chahiye jis adhara par janvar jita hai usi adhar ko manushy apna jivan kyo n banaye ? jab janvar shakahar kha kar jivit rha leta hai to manushy kyo nahi jivit raha sakta ?agar manushy ko mans khana priy hai to usi adhar par sher cheeta adi ko manushy ka mans bi khana priy ho sakta hai ? tabkya ham us hinsak janvatr ka tark svikar karna passand karenge ap kuran pakshi hai kuran ki bat ko kajbuti dene ke karan apko majburan mans khane ka bhi paksh rakahne ko kajbur hona padta hai yah hai ek mansikta ?jo vyakti jiska sevan karta hai uske liye jidd pakad leta hai , fir usko sachhai se matlab nahi hota apni galti svikar karna usko pasand nahi hota ek duragrah ka janm jarur ho jata hai ? bahut se mata pita apne bachhe ka galat paksh lete hai aur bahut se mata pita apne bachhe ka galat paksh nahi lete hai adalato me jydatar jhuthi gavahi manushy diya kartehai usi ke adhar par kabhi majburan nyay bhi ho jaya karta? kya aisa hona chahiye jab pulis ka chapa apradhi ke ghar me padta hai tab adhikansh parivar vale apni santan ki raksha karne age aa jate hai . sanbhav hai ki kuch mamlo me pulis bhi galat ho ? jahan pulis galat ho uska parda fash bhi jarur kiya jana chahiye!jo logmans khate hai aurkuranme likha hai us kuranko majbuti dene ke liye vah ved me bhi pahuch jate hai ki ved me bhi mans khana likha hai agar aam ek fal hai us ka mans kya hoga aam ka guda ? aisi hi ved me kuch jagah likha hua hoga ? fir bhi agar ved me ho ya geeta me ho ya ramayan adi me ho vah hamko many nahi hai jiyo aur jine do ahinsa ka kafi had tak ham samarthan karna chahenge ? kyoki usi me jyada bhalai hai khun khraba nahi hai ham puchna chahenge ki muslim mans khate hai kuran me bhi likh diya gay hai kya muslim janvar ki hatya kisi masjid me karte hai kaaba me kya janvar ki hatya hoti hai in jagaho ko kyo chod diya gaya ? kyo mans khane ke liye halal v haran[gair halal] ka bhed dala gaya hamne kabhi apne jivan me mans nahinkhaya hai kya anjane koi bhi muslim halal v gair halal ke mans me bhed ko pahachan dakta hai ?bas vahpuch sakta hai ki yah mans halah hai ya gair halal? ham to yah bhi kahana chahenge ke ki kuran ne islam ne kuch mamlo me mans khane me rok bhi lahgahgayihai jaise svatan mare janvarka mans mat khao kisi bakre ke ka agar kan kata huay ho uska mans mat khao allah ke siva kisi aur ke nam se janvar ki hatya ki gayi ho uska mans mat khao kaba me janvar ki hatya mat karo yah sab paksh janvar ke hit me “bhi ” jate hai ?aur manushy ko mans khane ki udarta par rok lagate hai ?

  48. @ raj.hyd ji
    Apne kaha “yah chamatkar kya hota hai jhuthi bate chahe ved ki kitab me ho ya kuran adi vah manne ke kabil hargij nahi hai”
    Ek ore jahan Allah per,uske kitabon per,uske paigambaron (pbu all) per tatha Qur’an ki har ek aayah per mera vishwas hai waheen doosri ore Aap apni soch ko sahi thehrane ke liye Vedon mein likhi aisi baton ko sire se hi nakar rahe hain aur unhe Jhoota tak kehne mein sankoch nahi kar rahe. isse apki apni dharmik granth aur dharm pe kitni aastha hai ye samajhna kathin nahi. jaane anjaane apne apna hi mazaak banaya hai..
    aap ke tark bhi apki astha ke saman khokhle dikhai pad rahe hain… kyonki
    current dikhta nahi hai raj ji lekin current ko measure kiya jaa sakta hai.Dard dikhta nahi lekin dard ki sanad jeev de sakte hain.hawa dikhai nahi padti prantu hawa ke veg ko bhi maapa jaa sakta hai aur isi prakar bhook ki sanad insan deta hai bhale hi wo dikhai na pade.. to kaheen na kaheen kisi na kisi roop mein inki sanad inke hone ka praman humare saamne aa hi jaati hai..
    Baat ghoom fir kar waheen pahuch jaati hai aur aisa sambhav hi nahi ke aap Ishwar ya Allah ko maney bhi aur fir uske dwara dikhaye gaye chamatkar ko jhoota bhi keh dein.. aap us kaal mein hotey to nisandeh apki dharna kuch aur hoti kintu aaj inke hue hone ka praman maangna moorakhta hai buddimani nahi…

    • @The islamisht ji, asthaye sachhi bhi ho sakti hai aur jhuthi bhi iski janch kaise ho sakegi vishvas sachhe bhi ho sakte hai aur andh vishvas bhi ho sakte hai unki janch kaise ho sakegi ? duniya me dhurtata bhi hai fir kaise unki janch ho sakegi ham kisi bhi kitab ko ankh michkar svikar nahi kiya karte hai ! ap v any logo ko andh vishvas svikarna haito bhale hi svikar karte rahe jhuth ke raste par fisla jana bahut asan hota hai ?fir us par apni drdhta dikhlana ki vahi sachha hai kya isko murkhta nahi kah jayega dimag me jab ek jhuthi bat jam jati hai tab ek duragrah ka janm ho jata hai ki bas,vahi saty hai, asthaye vishvas adi ki ek” khara sona ” kyo nahi banai ja sakti fir aap muslim hinduo ki murtipuja adi kyo nahi svikar kar lete ki vah un murtiyo ke madhyam se ishwar ko yad kar liya karte hai ? aj har disha dushit ho gayi hai uska parishkar [sudhar ] kyo n kiya jaye ? bahut se jagahao par prashvachak chinh kyo n lagaye jaye ? prashnvachak chinh hi hamko ek khoj ka avsar dete hai kya kab kahan kidhar kyo adi gyaan ki khoj me madad karti hai ! muhamamd ji ne kab me rakhi 360 murtiyo ko kyo nahi svikar kar liya ?asambhavchije kyo svikarkar lijaye ? isa ji ne ek kanya se janm liya kya yah sambhav hai ? ap bhale hi svikar karte rahe ham to svikar nahi kar sakenge ?kal ko yah bhi kah sakta hai ki aloo ki taraha aam bhi jamin ke neche fal diya karte the jo ab nahi dete hai kya in sabhi bato ko svikar kar liya jaye ? yahsaba chamatkar hai svikar kar lo ?kya chamatkar shab isi liye banaya gaya hai ? fir sidhe sidhe jhuth ko hi kyo n svikar kar liya jaye ? jhuth bhi to bahut se mamle me jivan me mahatv purn bhumika nibhate hai ?yah vishvas bahut bada ghatak tatv hai !jivan me khoj kijiye , uski anubhuti kijiye ! vishvas age badhne ko sochne ko rokti hai khoj age badhne me madad karti hai ! jitna sambhav ho sake janch karne ki koshish kijiye !

  49. @the islamist,bhaijaan,aap jab ki maans khana chahate hai,to pahle aap uske layak hai ya nahi ye to dekhiye.main jab jaan jane ke waqt ki baat kar raha hu,tab aadmi ko kuch bhi upay nahi sujta ki vo kya khaye kya na khaye,tab agar uske saamne shakahar hoga to to vo maans kyo khayega.jab uske paas shakahar hoga hi nahi aise halat me kya vo kankar,patthar,mitti khana suru kare? Aap ke samaj me ye baat kyo nahi aa rahi hai.samaj lo ki sari sabjiya jahrili ho jaye,aur usko khane se aap marenge to kya aap vo jaharili sabjiya khayenge ya uske badle maans khana pasand karenge?phir bhi agar aap daya,karuna ke karan jivo ki hatya nahi karna chahenge aur khud jahrili sabji kha ke mar jayenge,magar jaate jaate aap apne bivi bachho ko sabji mat khavo aise hidayat nahi denge?kya tum unko beshak kahoge mere pyaro tum raham karo in janvaro par tum sabji khana aur mar jaana par maans nahi khana.ye jeev hinsa to dono taraf se ho gayi na?? To aap kya nirnay lenge bhai,aise hi marne denge bivi baccho ko to unki hatya nahi ho rahi?aur maans khaya to pashu ki hatya nahi ho gayi? Aur aap dono bhi nahi khayenge to bhi hatya ho hi jayegi.to aap shresth kisko kahenge?

  50. @ raj.hyd ji
    apka pravachan sun kar lagta nahi ke aap ki aastha kisi bhi dharam mein ho sakti hai. aap kewal unhi baton ko sweekar karte hain jinke tathya apke saamne hain. main agar maan baithun ke aap Nastik hain to sambhavta ye galat na hoga. aur agar aisa hai to apko dharmnirpeksh hone ki avashayakta hai. Kewal Qur’an per tippani karna anuchit hai..
    sarv pratham to main apko yeh bata dun ke A-satya kabhi Satya ho hi nahi sakta to apka aisa kehna niraadhar hai.
    ab raha sawal ke Muslims Murti pooja kyun nahi karte/sweekar kar lete ?
    Raj ji !! aap to hathdharmi pe utar aaye hain.kya aap nahi jaante ke Muslims Qur’an ki shiksha ka paalan karte hain ? Jab Qur’an ne Idolatry (Moorty Pooja) ko nishedh/prohibited kar rakha hai to aise mein Muslims uske baare mein vichar hi kyun karenge ? yehi karan hai ke Muhammad ji (pbuh) ne bhi Kaaba mein rakhi 360 moortiyon ko sweekar nahi kiya.
    Dekhiye :
    Qur’an 21:98 — “Verily ye, (unbelievers), and the (false) gods that ye worship besides Allah, are (but) fuel for Hell ! To it will ye (surely) come ! ”
    Qur’an 6:74– And “Lo! Abraham said to his father Azar: “Takest thou idols for gods? For I see thee and thy people in manifest error.
    Qur’an 22:30 — “Such (is the Pilgrimage): whoever honours the sacred rites of God, for him it is good in the Sight of his Lord. Lawful to you (for food in Pilgrimage) are cattle, except those mentioned to you (as exception): but shun the abomination of Idols, and shun the word that is false.”
    Mujhe nahi lagta iske aagey kuch aur kehne ki avashayakta bhi hai…

    • The islamist ji , hamkoi bhi jhuthi asthaye svikar nahi karte hai / ishvar ko gyaan se mante huye bhi agar apkoham nastik lagtehai to hamko koi taklif nahi hai aapkeliye ya any muslim athva apne ko dhrmik kahalane valo ke liye ham kisi andhi astaho ko svikarkarna kadapi pasand nahi karte hai ! ham keval kuran ki hi ninda nahi katte balki jo hamko galat lagta hai usko galat bolne me koi sankoch nahi karte hai ! jab ap muslimo se bat karte hai tab jarur kuran ki alochna karte hai jab kisi puraan panthi se bat karte hai tab murtipuja adi ka virodh ninda adi karte hai 1 dekhe kuran 38/75 jisme kurani alalh adam ji ko dono hatho se nbanane ka dava kartebhai kya kurani alalh satve asman par ek singasan par virazman nahi hai ? kya muhammad ji meraz ke rup me kurani allah se milne nahi gaye the sur bakar ki akhiri do ayat vaha se nahi laye the ? isse kya siddh hota hai ki kurani alalah ek simit sthan me hai ,jo simit sthan me ho vah sarvshaktiman kaise ho sakta hai? kaba ki disha me namaz padhna ek “jadata ” ki nishani hai ! kaba ek pattahar hai agar hindu “pas ” ke patthar ke samne ishvar ko yad karte hai aur ap muslim 5 bar “dur” ke pattahar ki disha me namaz padh karke kuraniallah ko yad kartebhai tab dono sman kyo nahi ho gaye pathar to pattahar hi rahega ? dur aur pas ka antar avshy rahata hai ! vaha pattahar ek hai aur yaha patthar lakho hai !” jadta” dono ne ke pas hai 1 aur dono jadta ko nahi chod par rahe hai jab satve asman me kurani allah hai tabletkar ke asman ki disha me munh karke namaz kyo nahi padh lete? vaise jadta tab bhi rahegi 1 lekin tab patthar nahi rahega !jabmuslim “tasbih ” ke madhyam skurani allahko yad kartevhai tab vah jarur patthar ki disha nahi apnate hamari samajh me muslimo ki tasbih namaz se jyada shreshth hai aur hindu bhi jab ram- krishn ya koi mantr adi ka “jap” mala adi ferte hai vah murtipuja se avshy shreshth kahalai jayegi ! aap muslim kuran ke ke kitne andh bhakt hai ki kuran ki ayto ki janch bhi nahi karte hai ! agar dhokhe se kuran me suwar ka bosa [chumma ]arne ko likha hota to “shayad ” muslim suwar ka chumma bhi lena svikar kar lete jaise muhammad ji ne kaba ke patthar ko vyarth me chuma tha to karodo muslim kaba ko chumna nahi bhulte jabki kaba ke patthar ko chumne aur n chumne se kisi bhi muslim ko koi bhi antar nahi padta bas ek parampara jarur nibhya karte hai k ya kuran me koi bat likhi hai isliye vah bat mamne yogy hai ya koi achhi bat kisi bhi kitab me likhi ho vah manne yogy hai ? kuran me to rel, havai jahaj mobaile phone adi ke istemal karne ka bhi jikar nahi hai tab bhi muslim inka upyog karte hai jo achha karte hai !islam me kaha jata hai ki sangeet mana hai , film dekhna bhi mana hai foto khinchvaana bhi mana hai iske bad bhi karodo muslim sab isko apnate hai vah bhi achha karte hai ?isi disha me muslimo ko age badhna chahiye ! jaise islam ki yah bate muslim nahi mante hai aise hi apne vivek ke anusar kuran ki any bate bhi nahi manani chahiye ! apka yah kahana bahut thik hai ki a -satya kabhi saty nahi ho sakta isiliye kurani allah farishto ki fauj muahmmd ji ka rasool hone ka dava karna adi bhi kabhi saty nahi ho sakta kyoki yah sab a-saty hai !

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