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Om in Hinduism

This entry is part [part not set] of 14 in the series Self-Help

Q: What do you consider as the greatest word in all human dictionaries?

A: Om or Aum or ॐ or ओम् or ओ३म् .

Q: Oh, the Hindu chant of Om?

A: There is nothing Hindu or Muslim or Christian about it. Om – in its variants – forms part of all major cultures. It symbolizes goodness or power or meditation or respect.
Hindus use it as a chant for all mantras and bhajans and are more popularly associated with Om.
Christians and Jews use it as ‘Amen’ to denote strong affirmation.
Our Muslim brothers and sisters use it as ‘Aamin’.
Buddhists use it as Om Mani Padme Hum.
Sikhism is based on fundamental tenet of ‘Ik Omkar’ or One Om.
Omni which  forms root of so many words implies infinity or ubiquity or tremendous presence. For example, omnipresent, omnipotent, omniscient etc.
Thus Om – like its source Vedas – is beyond all later day religious or cultural divisions and is for entire humanity just as air, water, sunlight, blessings of Ishwar, love of mother, compassion for fellow beings.

Q: Is Om found in Vedic texts?

A: Yes, it is derived from Vedas and commended in other Vedic texts.
For example, Om is mentioned in following Mantras – Yajurveda 2.13, 40.15, 40.17, Rigveda 1.3.7
It is praised in several Upanishads and Geeta. Mandukyopanishad is dedicated to glory of Om.

Q: What does this Om mean?

A: The Vedic culture unequivocally states that Om is the best name of Ishwar. Refer Yoga Darshan 1.27-28
Om is made from three syllables – A (अ), U (उ), M (म्)
Now each of these syllables represent various characteristics of Ishwar or Allah or God or Supreme.
For example,
A represents vast, universal, worth being worshipped
U represents brilliant, minute, source, controller
M represents infinite, undying, knowledgeable, caring
These are just few examples. However in essence, Om summarizes essence of all other names of Ishwar.

Q: But how can A, U, M mean such things? It sounds so arbitrary!

A: To untrained mind, yes, it sounds very arbitrary. It is difficult to see a needle-hole while in a bumpy ride!
But this is the Vedic concept of origin of language:
To a mind in perfect tranquility, each pronunciation generates some feelings. During inception of civilization, Rishis characterized each such word (combination of pronunciations) to represent certain specific concepts.
The meanings for A, U, M are also derived from those feelings that each of these pronunciations produce in a tranquil mind.
An important note:
In fact this is how Vedas are to be interpreted. And this is the reason why most indologists fail to interpret Vedas correctly. One cannot understand Vedas until one is Yogi having perfect control over mind. Till we reach that level, we have to rely on other authoritative interpretations and logic.
Now since most people cannot have such control over mind, Rishis, classified some of the meanings of certain pronunciations in other texts like Nighantu. Based on this more coarser meanings of Vedic mantras were derived for less endowed people. Then they simplified them even further into simpler texts and so on. Most of us will have to use this texts, along with our own intellect to deduce the meaning of Vedic mantras. But while other texts provide clues to Vedas, Vedas themselves remain the ultimate benchmark that can be comprehended fully only in perfect state of tranquility. However the very process of trying to understand Vedas help us reach that level of mental capability. This forms the entire philosophy of studying and applying Vedas.
And that is why a reader of Vedas should be clear that Vedas can be understood only as per root essence of each word and possibly each syllable and not later day meanings. For example, ‘Go’ has the root essence of something that moves or provided progression. But fools try to interpret ‘Go’ in Vedic mantras to mean ‘cow’ everywhere and hence misinterpret Vedas. So Vedas demand understanding of root words, and ‘feeling’ the mantras rather than mechanical interpretations. And since its an evolutionary process for each of us, Vedic philosophy is quite liberal about those who believe in Vedas and to whatever extent as per Laws of Karma.


Q: Could you be more clear about this concept of meaning from pronunciation of each syllable in case of A U M? Give an example.

A: Clarity can come only with perfect tranquility of mind. But lets take an example to explain how different sounds evoke different feelings or meanings – ‘M’ denotes emotional and caring aspect of Paramatma/ Ishwar. And you would see that even among normal human beings, there is a strong common thread across almost all cultures when it comes to ‘caring love’. So the word to signify Mother in almost all languages and cultures has the sound of ‘M’. Some cultures use a close sibling ‘N’ which comes under the same family of sounds. This is the sound that most children utter first for physiological reasons and develop an emotional relation with. Ishwar’s language and His creation all go in sync.
Since this motherly love is one of the strongest emotions, we find it common across entire humanity in form of M. Same is case with other syllables which form part of Om.

Q: OK, I understand that Om has a great meaning. But why should I chant it?
A: Chanting of Om has several benefits – therapeutic, psychological and spiritual. Even if you don’t know the meaning of Om or are otherwise skeptic about it, you can still avail the therapeutic benefits from it. Some people stay away from Om considering that it belongs to a particular religion. But as we have seen, there is nothing religious about Om. It existed much before these new religions came into existence and is in any case part of all major cultures.
To deny oneself of benefit of Om simply because it existed before their religion emerged is akin to refusing to use one’s hands, legs, air, water, horses, vehicles, food items, medicines etc simply because these also existed before their religion emerged.
Further, there is nothing in the meaning and essence of Om that is against the definition of God/Ishwar/Allah in any religion. Thus one should not be hesitant in embracing ‘Om’.
Om is supposed to be the primordial sound of universe and its reverberations are the most natural experience for all souls. This Om through its reverberations forms the connect between us and the Supreme Entity. Buddhists call it Inevitable Laws of Nature designed to benefit us, and we call it Existent, Conscious, Blissful Ishwar.

Q: So what are the therapeutic or health benefits?

A: Om is a foolproof method to add healthy years to your life.
a. Chanting of Om several times would relax your entire body and regulate your hormonal system.
b. If you have disorders due to anxiety or worry, or you tend to lose temper, there can be no better remedy.
c. It acts like a detoxifying agent for entire body. If your environment is polluted, you MUST use it.
d. It strengthens heart and circulatory system.
e. It will make your digestion stronger.
f. It will bring youthfulness in body and face.
g. If you are tired and exhausted, it can serve as a great rejuvenator.
h. It can solve most worrisome sleep disturbance patterns, in case you suffer from it. You would wake up alert from sleep if you practice it in night.
i. It strengthens your lungs with some practice.
etc etc
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Q: What are psychological benefits of Om?

A: Om can become a life changing experience:
a. It can make you much more relaxed to face the world around comfortably.
b. It can help you control your anger and frustration. If you have been chanting Om regularly, it is unlikely that you get angry.
c. It can help you be in resonance with nature. Thus you would find yourself much more intuitive and in control of things. Your gut feel will become much higher.
d. Your interpersonal relationships will improve. You would be able to develop rapport with people much better and make friends from enemies.
e. You will find life much more meaningful and purposeful and carry that natural smile.
f. You will find a jump in your enthusiasm and activity level. Your alertness would increase.
g. You can never feel depressed if you are into Om therapy.
h. If you have a friend suffering from depression and having suicidal thoughts, make him read this article and Gayatri Mantra therapy. Soon all depressing thoughts will vanish away.

Q: What are spiritual benefits of Om?

A: Meditation upon Om is the best spiritual exercise on earth.
a. It helps you develop emotional connect with Ishwar and realize your relation with Ishwar.
b. It helps you realize your purpose in life and how Ishwar is helping you.
c. It helps you realize your identity beyond this temporary hustle-bustle of the world around and develops a sense of how to make best use of this world for the bigger goal.
d. It provides a sense of security that is unmatched. You realize how you are constantly under protection of Ishwar every moment.
e. It helps you feel the Law of Karma and how each thought of yours is shaping the next moment of life and how Ishwar is managing this Law of Karma meticulously for your benefit alone. You understand why and how Ishwar is just and compassionate at the same time. How in his justice alone lies his pardon! How he loves you! How he is caring for you! How he is pampering you!

Q: How to derive these benefits? What is the method of Om therapy?

A: The complete therapy would be detailed and require separate coverage. Also, depending upon individual stage and requirements, it can be customized. After all its not a mechanical exercise but a direct one-to-one interaction between you and He, without any other entity in between.
But here is a standard procedure:
1. Sit down with backbone straight in a position where you need not worry about bodily discomfort. If you are unwell, you can do it lying down. But otherwise, always prefer to be seated. Close your eyes. Take some relaxed deep breaths to release any body tensions.
2. Four times are best for Om therapy – one immediately after waking up, one after morning cleansing, one in evening during sunset and finally before sleep. You can also do it when you have nothing else to do better – traveling in a bus (make sure you are not driving!), waiting for someone, feeling the need to get rid of negative emotions or having the relaxed morning walk in park. (Though make sure you are not into something that demands alertness)
3. Listen to the method of chant as provided in audio in beginning of article. You can prolong the duration of each chant depending on your comfort. In general, longer the better but if done with comfort.
4. Now do at least 3-5 chants each time. If chanting loud is an issue, you can do it silently.
5. During each chant, FEEL the Ishwar and his love around. Keep a slight smile and flow into the reverberations of the sound inside. This is not the time to think about Ishwar but to FEEL the Ishwar. We want to work at emotional level and not at logical level right now. (Rest of the day is for logic and if that be insufficient, we have enough material to counter and debate at Agniveer.com and hone these skills 🙂 )
6. Continue the vocal chants as long as you enjoy, and then start chanting silently. You can also focus on rhythmic breath patterns for some time. Then you can switch to Gayatri Therapy and then again switch to silent Om Therapy.
7. After you have completed all this, you can switch to Shanti Mantra and conclude. Shanti Mantra basically prays for peace everywhere.
8. After this, if you wish you can continue this meditative stage as long you enjoy and pray to Ishwar in whatever way you desire or whatever name you want to take with a thankful attitude. If you are an atheist, you can replace thought of Ishwar with sense of comfort and peace (Its one and same with difference in semantics alone)
Thats it!
I have just shared a trade secret in plain simple terms that otherwise has become a multi-billion dollar industry and bread and butter of many a self-help gurus! Only that this would be much more practical and effective! And that it has been provided without redundant jargon and packaging!

Q: But I am a Muslim and you abuse Muslims on your site. Why should I follow what you say?

A:
1. As I said there is nothing Hindu, Muslim or Christian about Om or Gayatri Mantra. Do you refuse to eat mangoes because it is not mentioned in Quran? The only things that a Muslim is prohibited from is what goes against Quran. But there is nothing in Om or Gayatri that is against any theist or even atheist belief.
2. What you are referring to as abuses to Muslims is merely an intellectual debate on books and has nothing to do with being insulting to anyone. Do you refuse to have food from mother merely because you have different viewpoints? One should never mix intellectual differences with emotional bonding.
3. See, despite whatever we may have written that you may have objections to, we still openly claim to be proud of calling ourselves ‘Muslim’ because it has a great meaning. We proudly hail Genius Muhammad as our role model. And we proudly sit in Vajrasana which is nothing but Namaaz position because it is good for digestion and general health. Thus while we may differ, we are still one family!
4. Even if you hate us, why should you refuse to take benefits from Om Therapy? Do you refuse to receive your father’s letter because you do not like the postman? Agniveer is just a postman – a carrier. So even if you hate us, you should not stop yourself from imbibing good things that are compliant even with your own interpretation of Islam.
5. See, all these debates are superficial and merely tools to explore true wisdom. We may have different beliefs due to our different experiences in life and we should definitely discuss and debate to learn from each other. But beyond all these debates and arguments, which even get hot at times, we are still humans. And to love fellow beings is our innate nature – gift of Ishwar. After all we are one single family! But why prohibit yourself from deriving benefits from something which is neither Agniveer’s copyright, nor against Islam, nor can do any harm at all? Good things should be imbibed even from enemies!
6. So let us keep our intellectual differences aside, use other forums to sort those out. And if you are too angry with our other posts, feel free to scold or abuse us to your heart’s content through comments. We shall not delete them. But please make best use of Om Therapy. It can change your life!
Same logic we adopted for Christians and all other people who otherwise differ from us.

Q: I still have a doubt. In a world demanding actions, how can chanting do wonders? Is this not an escape mechanism to run away from challenges of life?

A:
1. Any form of meditation or Om therapy or whatever is not a replacement for rest of the duties of life. It is on contrary a catalyst to increase the efficiency of our overall life. Thus one is not expected to run away from duties and chant Om.  On contrary, one is supposed to do it for a limited period of time in general. It won’t take more than 15-20 minutes in entire day if you do it 4 times. You can increase the duration for specific objectives.
2. Chanting is nothing but a commitment. Its a promise you give to Ishwar/ Allah or God that you would cooperate with Him. That you would justify all his caring and love showered upon you. That you would try to imbibe the qualities that are expected from you. That you would try to emulate Ishwar in those qualities where you can – justice, compassion, discipline, consistency etc.
Chanting in this manner is a commitment at subconscious level. And hence it works! Those who chant with this overall theme, derive the best benefits.
However those who chant even mechanically would at least derive the health benefits. Even if you don’t believe in benefits of desi cow’s milk, it would still benefit you if you consume. Same is the case here. But when done with FEELINGS, benefits multiply!

Q: There are some more doubts. How do I address them?

A: Proof of the pudding is in the eating. Simply practice for a month and all doubts would be dissolved. However if you still have some really valid doubts or specific requirements, you can Contact us or comment here. But remember, we can show you the path. It is you who will have to walk across! And believe us, it would indeed be greatest fun!
So just get going into Om Therapy!
This article is also available in Hindi at http://agniveer.com/om-hindi/
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Sanjeev Newar is an eminent data scientist, entrepreneur, best-selling author, and speaker with expertise in Vedas and Sanskrit. He is an alumnus of IIT Guwahati and IIM Calcutta. He quit the corporate world to work for social inclusion and the protection of the vulnerable. For his work on Dalit inclusion and empowerment, he received the Neelkantha Award in 2019. He founded the Sewa Nyaya Utthan Foundation to make quality education accessible to vulnerable groups and marginalised communities.

313 COMMENTS

  1. Jesus Was God?
    Absolutely not. This is one of the most ridiculous statement that Christians make.
    God is the controller and creator of millions of Universes. So does it make any sense for God to appear on this tiny insignificant planet called Earth. Millions of years after creating it so that he can be tormented, harassed, and crucified?
    Jesus said “Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone” (Mark 10.8)
    “My teaching is not my own. It comes from him who sent me” (John 7:16)
    Jesus said “I go unto my father: for my father is greater than I” (John 14.28)
    “I tell you the truth, the Son can do nothing by himself” (John 5.19)
    Jesus said “Father forgive them, they know not what they are doing”
    “I and my Father are one” (John 10.30) – The Christians use this statement to justify that Jesus is God, but this actually proves that Jesus is not God.
    The definition of God is that one who is the greatest, one who has know one equal to him, one who has know one above him. Such a person is called God. If Jesus and his father are equal then neither of them can be God.
    Can the Pope answer this???
    Refer to the link: http://hindurevolution.blogspot.in/2011/05/can-pope-explain.html

    • please do not fight brothers…. yes jesus was god… swami vivekananda said he was god…. ramakrishna paramhansa said he was god….. paramhansa yogananda said he was god…. so i think they were enlightened sole then who am i to oppose them…. http://www.ocoy.org (go on this link)in hinduism also when a human becomes enlightened he becomes like and then submerge into god …. and then they become one wih god…. they have no diffrent identity from god…. just read poems of RUMI you will be shoked …. there if no diffrence between poems of rumi and advaita vedanta… not even 1%
      so jesus also gave message of vedanta but people were not able to understand that msg…. read vedanta , pomes of rumi and second coming of christ by paramhansa yogananda…. you will be shoked and come to know that there is no diffrence between them

  2. Hi,
    I am writing this because , i have read in another blog women should not chant OM.
    i read this information from one of the site called http://www.spiritualresearchfoundation.org/aboutspiritualresearch/spiritualpractice/chanting/chanting-om
    mentions –
    Due to the spiritual energy generated by chanting Om, a person at a lower spiritual level may be adversely affected by chanting Om regularly. A person at a lower spiritual level can suffer physical distress such as hyperacidity, a rise in body temperature, etc., or psychological distress like restlessness. It is especially recommended that women should not chant just Om, by itself. The frequencies emanating from Om generate a lot of energy which in turn generates physical and subtle heat in the body. This does not affect the male reproductive organs as they lie outside the body cavity. However, in the case of women, this heat can affect the reproductive organs as they lie within the abdominal cavity. Thus, women may experience distress in the form of excessive menstrual flow, amenorrhoea (absence of a menstrual period), dysmenorrhoea (severe uterine pain during menstruation), infertility, etc. Hence, it is advisable for women not to chant Om by itself unless it is specifically recommended for them, by a Guru or a Saint..
    these site has mentioned the disadvantage of chanting om for women, i am not sure to which extent this is true
    please confirm me , can woman/girl chant OM
    Thanks in advance

  3. Hi,
    I am writing this because , i have read in another blog women should not chant OM.
    i read this information from one of the site called http://www.spiritualresearchfoundation.org/aboutspiritualresearch/spiritualpractice/chanting/chanting-om
    mentions –
    Due to the spiritual energy generated by chanting Om, a person at a lower spiritual level may be adversely affected by chanting Om regularly. A person at a lower spiritual level can suffer physical distress such as hyperacidity, a rise in body temperature, etc., or psychological distress like restlessness. It is especially recommended that women should not chant just Om, by itself. The frequencies emanating from Om generate a lot of energy which in turn generates physical and subtle heat in the body. This does not affect the male reproductive organs as they lie outside the body cavity. However, in the case of women, this heat can affect the reproductive organs as they lie within the abdominal cavity. Thus, women may experience distress in the form of excessive menstrual flow, amenorrhoea (absence of a menstrual period), dysmenorrhoea (severe uterine pain during menstruation), infertility, etc. Hence, it is advisable for women not to chant Om by itself unless it is specifically recommended for them, by a Guru or a Saint..
    these site has mentioned the disadvantage of chanting om for women, i am not sure to which extent this is true
    please confirm me , can woman/girl chant OM

    • We have a copy of the Vedas and no where in there does it say women cannot or should nor chant OM. These guys are making things up. I also noticed they didn’t provide any sources.
      The vedas say women and men both should read the verses of the Vedas, which include OM.
      Krishnarao

    • Thank you, Missy. Yeshua Ha Mashiach is the most controversial figure of the history of this creation. You just found two links, there are millions of webpages out there trying to defy the Living Creator God of Abraham. Yeshua is the Name of God; Yeshua means “God Saves”.
      John 1:1-4 In the beginning was the Word [Yeshua], and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through Him all things were made; without Him nothing was made that has been made.

    • Instead of quoting web-links, why don’t you put your arguments. Again, there are millions of such webpages out there. I am a Christian, we go by authentic information which has proven history not philosophies of whims of idiots, folklores, legends of folklores and myths of Nimrodian mysterious religions called blind-faith. Myths ends up in becoming religions with enforced make-belief system of Shraddha, WYSIWYG [what you see is what you get], which is fundamentally wrong spiritual concept.

      • Mac:-jesus ordered Abraham to kill his son.it was evil test.If I order you to rape your daughter What you’ll call me???Holy man or diry fellow???
        JESUS WAS MURDERER.
        EXODUS 12/29:-“AT MIDNIGHT
        JESUS KILLED ALL THE FIRST
        BORN BABIES, BOTH HUMAN
        AND ANIMAL, IN THE LAND OF
        EGYPT ”
        vedic god Om is True.Jesus is sinner..

      • What is the meaning of Sin according to your religion? Yeshua is the Prince of Peace and the Lord of Hosts, the Lord of War, the Commander In Chief of God’s Army, the begotten [means taken from not created Being] Son of God, the Shekinah [Glory] of God which was seated in the temple of Jerusalem. God created all creation thru Him, for Him and to His glory.
        Hebrews 1:6 And when He [God] again brings the first-begotten into the world, He says, “AND LET ALL THE ANGELS OF GOD WORSHIP HIM’.

      • Jesus is the Lamb of God, the ultimate sinless perfect unblemished sacrificial Lamb of God. God sacrificed His only Begotten Son as an atonement for the sins of this world.
        John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.

      • Mac:-you said,”What is the meaning of
        Sin according to your religion?”
        My response:-
        I’ll give you examples to know sin.
        1. JESUS WAS MURDERER
        EXODUS 12/29:-“AT MIDNIGHT
        JESUS KILLED ALL THE FIRST
        BORN BABIES, BOTH HUMAN
        AND ANIMAL, IN THE LAND OF
        EGYPT ”
        It is sin.
        2. JESUS LOVES CANNIBALISM
        “I will cause
        them to eat the flesh of
        their sons and the flesh of
        their daughters”
        -jeremiah19/9
        It is sin.
        3.Genesis 22:-Jesus ordered abraham to kill his son…

      • Give the definition of sin according to your religion. Judging God and Yeshua is beyond your imagination. Idolatry is short-sightedness, WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get). Make gods out of your imaginations with skillful hands, paint/color them, make them sit upright, put cloths on them, scent them, give them bath, try to feed them food although they can’t eat with their mouth nor speak, hear or see, take them for a ride/yatra. But, when they break, you dump them in garbage…….!

  4. @Mac
    ”You attract the same type of energy which you have emitted” is Karma principle in Hinduism = ” As you sow so shall you reap” in Christianity.

    • What kind of energy you are talking about? The life force, the God Breathed Spirit is in our nostrils and it do not rotate. It returns back to its Giver. God do not send the Spirits in a cycle so as to judge it. If it is so, he/she/it is not god. There are no females in the spirit world and they do not reproduce. Spirits are in spiritual bodies not physical. Genesis 1:28 God blessed them [Adam & Eve] and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it…

  5. @Mac
    I can’t help laughing away at your above comment. I didn’t mention the word spirit in my comment. I said the meaning of as you sow so shall you reap is SAME as karma in Hinduism. You must know when you think you create/emit energy( waveform). Karma states if you create/emit energy of anger, hatred, greed, lust you attract the same kind of energy( in waveform)Just like boomerang.
    Did you read the article titled NASA uses Sanskrit to program Artificial Intelligence?

    • NASA is no authority over God or His spirit world. You are talking about physical world and I am talking about spiritual world. The life force, which is soul/spirit/ruah/atma, it is a non-physical thing. I understand your concept of Karma very well. But, Karma alone cannot save you from God’s judgment, which is fixed.
      Romans 3:2 For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.
      Ecclesiastes 7:20 For there is not a just man on earth, that does good, and sins not.
      Cont’d/-

    • 1 John 1:8-10 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
      Death was not there until God said to Adam and Eve in;
      Genesis 2:17 but from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat from it you will surely DIE.
      God of Abraham is good in all this creation. Whatever He says is good & going against it is evil, disobedience to the Word of God is sin. Yeshua is the Word of God. All creation lay bare naked…

  6. @Mac
    // You are talking about physical world//
    I was shocked by your ignorance. You are saying hatred love compassion anger lust are attributes of ”physical body”. Tell me material/physical wooden table loves other wooden table? Does exchange of energy take place between two wooden tables?
    Mr. Mac you are consciousness and not perishable physical body. You are eternal and immortal soul. Positive karma alone save you from diseases depression disorders miseries sufferings sorrows…

    • No karma will save you in epidemics or war, if you are there. In fact, energy per se is not visible, its form is visible. Feelings of any kind are a biochemical reaction in our bio-physical body. Your consciousness is due to your spirit/atma. Your consciousness can get disconnected, but the spirit is still there. When the spirit leaves the body, your mind stops working and you are clinically dead. It is the Spirit/Atma which gives consciousness to the mind and no mind no consciousness.

      • Mac:-You can rape women and you can go to heaven by accepting jesus.
        It is stupid theory.
        Rapist must be punished.
        First you should know what is karma.
        Karma can save you.
        If you do bad karma,you must be punished.
        If you do good karma,you can go to Mukti.
        It is simple.

      • Karma will boomerang on you, right! Well that much you know, its good for you. Ask yourself simple question what about the Karma of Rim-sin alias Rama-Chandra, socalled Krishna, Shiva, Kali, etc Vedic gods, who killed hundreds of thousands of people in warfare and otherwise? Desi karma go to the mandir ask the stone gods to bless you with a customer whom you can cut like a goat, so you can share the bounty of ill-gotten gains with your gods. Both you & your immovable gods are corrupt.

  7. You punish yourself for your wrong or bad karmas and not God. You are responsible for your good or bad destiny and not God. Remember karma means boomerang.

    • Faith and not Shraddha (believing in what you see). Faith without works is dead. Tell me, does sleeping with your Dad a good deed or a bad deed? And, why? Wages of sin is death. Death was not created but death was brought into this world thru disobedience of God’s Word, which is sin. And, everybody has sinned. That’s why only the grace of God saves thru faith in His only begotten Son Jesus Christ, the ultimate, perfect, unblemished,, holy and first begotten sacrificial Lamb of God.

    • Hebrews 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
      Jesus’ last words are “IT IS FINISHED”. The law is fulfilled and put aside. Now if you want to come to God, Jesus is THE ONLY WAY and there is no other way. Sin entered the world thru one man Adam, sin was paid in full thru the 2nd Adam……
      John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I AM [Yah] the Way and the Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father [God Almighty] except…

  8. You sounded crazy when you said //Feelings of any kind are a biochemical reaction in our bio-physical body//
    Instead of beating around the bush, come straight to the point and answer my simple question: Do you think emotions/feelings are attributes of bio-physical body ? If so why wooden table doesn’t think?

    • Not attributes, they are the results of the bio-chemical reactions. I have already explained you consciousness. But, you are ducking the main points.

  9. Why your god did not send his only begotten son Jesus when he had created two opposite genders ? why did your god create two opposite genders in the first place if he was so concerned about their SIN?

  10. @Mac
    You said // Everyone has sinned//
    You should know many new-born babies are suffering from incurable diseases. Tell me did they get opportunity to sin ? If no, why your god is punishing those innocent new-born babies?
    Your god has right to judge people only when he grants everyone happy healthy and same life.

    • I worship the God of Abraham, God of Isaac and God of Jacob, the Living God, who hears. A child born with disease or defect is not because of sin, but it is just a birth defect. Children are sinless because they do not know the difference between right and wrong. No child who dies will ever face the judgment of God. Children are like angels, pure in heart, so Jesus says in;
      Matthew 18:4 Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.

      • you are still here post Years repeating the same stupid stuff. LOL that tell a lot why you converted.! keep it up .

    • God created this nature and He has established laws of heavens and on earth. He will not do miracles and change the nature. He lets it happen things naturally. But, everything is accounted. We worship the Living God and to Him all the Spirits God created are LIVING unto Him although some have died [are sleeping in death].
      God have performed tremendous miracles in past to glorify His Name amongst His people. Normally, He will not perform a miracle, but your faith will make Him do it.

    • I am not answering quizzes here, Missy. I am discoursing and you do not have the fundamentals cleared up as yet. Your logic is philosophical and material not spiritual. You cannot find God of Abraham, the Living God with yoga, mantra, tantra, recitals, etc i.e. any of the idolatic philosophical rituals. You cannot mix up the spiritual world with the physical world.

  11. @Mac
    Christianity is collapsing in West. Intelligent and smart westerners are abandoning so-called son of god.Have you heard name of Oscar award winning actress Julia Roberts ( born catholic and now practicing Hindu) ?

  12. Mac:-it is vedic website.we dont believe ram,krisha and vishnu..
    We dont worship idols.According to veda,Bad karma is sin.
    If you do crimes,you must be punished.According to bible,
    If your father do crimes,jesus will curse you.It is stupid theory.
    adam&eve did wrong.why jesus cursed their children????he was fool???

    • Satan is Lucifer the fallen angel of the category of Cherubim, 6-winged fire angel who stand in the presence of God Almighty in Most High heavens. He was cast away and stripped off his glory. Jesus calls Satan the Prince of Air (wind, lowest heavens), Father of Lies and King of this world. God created this creation and He sits as a judge in Most High heavens. This world is ruled by Satan and that is why Jesus has to come on this earth and repay for the sins of the world in FLESH.

    • The Vedic god Indra in part corresponds to Dyaus Pitar, the Sky Father, Zeus and Jupiter. The deity Yama, the lord of the dead, is Yima of Persian mythology. Vedic hymns refer to these and other deities, often 33, consisting of 8 Vasus, 11 Rudras, 12 Adityas, and the late Rigvedic Prajapati. Japheth [means extended boundry, all caucasians], the youngest son of Noah. Aryans knew him as Djapatischta (chief of the race), Greeks referred to Japheth as Iapetos or Japetos, Cont’d/-

    • Indians called him Jyapeti or Pra-Japati, Romans used Ju-Pater or Jupiter, the Saxons perpetuated his name as Iafeth, subsequently transliterated as Sceaf (pronounced “sheef” or “shaif”—and recorded his name in their early genealogies as the son of Noah, the forebear of their various peoples), and the variant Seskef was used by early Scandinavians. All of these peoples were pagans whose knowledge or even awareness of the book of Genesis had been lost, or was non-existent. Jesus didn’t…

  13. @Mac
    Your soul is your consciousness.
    Jesus said- those who believe in me will enjoy in heaven after death and those who don’t will suffer in hell. Jesus was born 2000 yrs ago. Tell me where are all the people who died before his birth ? Are they suffering in hell ?

  14. @Raj
    Christians believe if one commits horrible crime and then says sorry, Jesus, the self-proclaimed god forgives him. He sends him in heaven to enjoy forever. He torments infidels in hell for not believing in him. Agniveer is right to say the god of christianity is praise-loving dictator.

    • Deuteronomy 32:39 See now that I Myself Am He! There is no god besides Me. I put to death and I bring to life, I have wounded and I will heal, and no one can deliver out of My hand.
      Isaiah 45:5 I Am the LORD, and there is no other; apart from Me there is no God. I will strengthen you, though you have not acknowledged Me,
      Isaiah 44:6 This is what the LORD says– Israel’s King and Redeemer, the LORD Almighty: I Am the first and I Am the last; apart from Me there is no God.

    • I don’t know your age, but you are too naïve as far as discussing belief systems are concerned. You need to write your own arguments or quote some authentic material. Don’t point at web links, I already told you there are millions of such webpages out there.

      • Why would any sane God punish people for worshipping other Gods? Is Yahweh in hunger for worship?
        It is the basic qualification for God to be self satisfied which he clearly lacks.

      • The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the only Living God, the Creator God Almighty, besides Him there is no other god as He repeats in the scriptures. Rest of the gods are men-made. God is a Spirit, so we worship God in spirit and truth. All creation is His and for His glory alone; praise and worship should be given to the only Living God of Abraham nobody else.
        Isaiah 42:8 “I AM the LORD [YWHW, I AM WHO I AM]; that is My Name! I will not give My glory to another or My praise to idols.

      • JEHOVAH: LORD in our English Bibles (all capitals). Yahweh is the covenant name of God. Occurs 6823 times in the OT First use Gen. 2:4 (Jehovah Elohim). From the verb “to be”, havah, similar to chavah (to live), “The Self-Existent One,” “I AM WHO I AM” or ‘I WILL BE WHO I WILL BE” as revealed to Moses at the burning bush, Ex.3. The name of God, too sacred to be uttered, abbreviated ( . . . . ) or written “YHWH” without vowel points.

      • The tetragrammaton. Josh., Judges, Sam., and Kings use Jehovah almost exclusively. The love of God is conditioned upon His moral and spiritual attributes. (Dan. 9:14; Ps. 11:7; Lev. 19:2; Hab. 1:12). Note Deut. 6:4, 5 known to Jews as the Sh’ma uses both Jehovah and Elohim to indicate one God with a plurality of persons. The idols of the heathen are called “sheddim.”
        Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is One..
        Blessed be His Name forever and ever……..Amen.

      • Love is something that should spontaneously arise.
        I respect Christians because they’re spreading God’s love. But they’re also acting like hypocrites by disrespecting the spiritual paths of others.
        I don’t disagree with you Mac. But Yahweh’s character didn’t impress me, so i chose to worship another God. If Yahweh wants worship, let him EARN IT!

      • Just imagine, if you have a son and right in front of you, he calls a stranger or nobody as Father/Daddy, how will you feel? If your children DO NOT call you Father and calls a stranger or nobody a father, will you not be jealous? We call God, the Father because He is the Father of this creation and He alone reserves the right to receive praise and worship of His created children NOBODY ELSE. It is as simple as 1+1=2.

      • 1 John 4:8 Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love.
        YWHW with vowels is spelt Yahweh, Blessed be His Name. Yahweh means I AM WHO I AM or I AM THAT I AM, and it is His Ego Emmi.
        Have you ever said to your earthly father, “WHO ARE YOU?”. If not, then we are talking about Father God Almighty, the Living One, the Creator God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
        Never mix-up or try to generalize the Holy Name of God Almighty with any philosophy or handiworks of mankind.

      • See you’re not understanding my position. I’m not calling a nobody as God. I’m just calling the same God but with a different name. I’d be jealous, and i’ll tell my children that i’m their Dad. Now if God wants me to worship the Yahweh aspect of him they he should let me know personally instead of letting his followers vouch for him.
        Yes i agree to know God is to love him. I don’t have a problem with God. I simply am not attracted to the Judeo-Christian version of God.

      • In Exodus 3, Moses asks {argues with} God, “if I say that your God has sent me to you [Israelites in slavery since 400 years], then what should I answer to them. So, God gave this COVENANT NAME—>YWHW (Yahweh), Blessed be His Name forever and ever. God tell us what to do, we can’t tell Him what to do, it is simple. He also said, “I am the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob”. In fact, God is a Nameless God as there is only One God, the God of Abraham and YWHW is His Ego Emmi….I AM [Yah].

      • Psalm 145:8 The LORD is gracious, and full of compassion; slow to anger, and of great mercy.
        God loves His creation and His children (all Spirits/Atmas) He created and not one of them is lost. Angels (Spirits) were visible to Adam and Eve, until the fall of mankind. IT IS GOD WHO CALLS, YOU CAN’T CONVERT A PERSON FROM INSIDE.
        1 Timothy 6:16 who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable lights [distance], whom no one has seen or can see. To Him be honor and might forever. Amen.

  15. See if he’s LIVING GOD, let him reveal himself, since he’s alleged to have taken only one incarnation as per Bible. Compared to Hinduism in which God has incarnated on many occassions.
    //Never mix-up or try to generalize the Holy Name of God Almighty with any philosophy or handiworks of mankind.//
    That’s why i don’t take his name in vain 🙂
    The Vedic/Puranic Creationisms makes more sense than Biblical.
    Read Matsya Puran it gives the best description of Creationism

    • Sin was committed in flesh by first Adam, so also the repayment of sin was made in flesh by the second Adam who came from heaven.
      Deuteronomy 4:24 For the LORD your God is a consuming fire, a jealous God..
      He covers Himself with fire, thunder and lightening goes out of Him. No flesh can withstand the power of the glory of God, they will all be reduced to ashes.
      Exodus 33:20 But He [God] said, “You cannot see My face, for no man can see Me and live!”
      Nobody has seen God, the…

      • 2 Peter 1:10 Therefore, brothers, be all the more diligent to make your CALLING and election sure, for if you practice these qualities you will never fall.
        Acts 2:38-39 And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God CALLS to himself.
        Ctrl + F then type…

    • You can’t be obvious about that. Since they did not teach everything they knew because the people could not grasp ever what they preached.
      John 16:12 “I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear.”

    • In Christianity there are no lighting of cigars with yoga sitting under a tree. Yeshua is begotten [taken from] Son of God and the second person of Elohim [a singular plural of God] Moses was called by God at the burning bush (Exodus 3).
      ELOHIM: God (a plural noun, more than two, used with singular verbs); Elohim occurs 2,570 times in the OT, 32 times in Genesis 1. God as Creator, Preserver, Transcendent, Mighty and Strong. Eccl., Daniel, Jonah use Elohim almost exclusively.

  16. We Indians believe that the universe is manifestation of God and Christians believe God created universe out of nothing. They clearly make distinction between Creator and Creation. And therefore the God of Christianity is not same as the God of Vedas or Sanaatan Dharma.

    • Vedic scriptures also give the Analogy of a Spider Spinning its Web.
      As the spider has infinite source of creating the webs through its saliva; similarly; God has infinite energies to create ‘n’ number of universes & galaxies.
      The concept God in Bible is very much in line with the Vedas except a few traits. Also Vedas give a better description as they also simultaneously explain God’s Omnipresence.

      • Hi Ash,
        Nonsense. Even Rajiv Malhotra talked about this. He said the Vedas do say there are many paths to reach the Divine, but it does not say all paths reach the divine. This the confusion by people like you. You make a conclusion that is not there. Vedas DO NOT SAY ALL PATHS LEAD TO THE Divine.

      • Namaste Krishnarao ji
        I agree all paths do not lead to Divine, but all valid paths do.
        I’m curious, What’s wrong with Christianity?
        I’m not referring to the typical christian dogma of sin theory and sacrifice of jesus. I don’t accept it either. But the essence of Christianity in which Jesus speaks about Devotional theism.
        Religions are tools to spiritual perfection, i agree Christianity is not as affective as Vedic system yet if one follows the ideal of jesus, he’ll become perfect.

  17. I disagree with you. Single sentence of John can’t approve that Moses and Jesus had idea of rebirth. Don’t you know that they believed in one-life philosophy and dooms day?
    I stick to my point that Christian clearly makes distinction between creator and creation. And we Indians believe that God pervades everything. If you don’t believe me, ask the same question to Mac.

    • I’m not sure about Moses. But if any person who reads Bible NT after knowing about concepts like karma and reincarnation they’ll find new insight in the verses. And if one reads the NT fully he’s bound to accept the divinity of Christ.
      Yes it does differentiate but as per Christianity God is Omnipresent too. I asked a Christian and he said “Gods Spirit is omnipresent” …ofcourse now their concept is not as well built as ours but still its there.

  18. I believe that Jesus was myth. St. Paul collected pre-christian religious( pagan) stories and fabricated Bible. Both Paul and emperor Constantine intended to rule the world in the name of Jesus, the myth. Visit an awesome site by D. M. Merdock or Acharya S.
    http://www.truthbeknown.com

    • Saul called Paul was a student of Raban Gamaliel the Elder, author of Mishnah and Talmud, a judge in the Sanhedrin (jewish court of law) and the neighbor of Jesus Christ. Paul was a Rabbi, a teacher of law. Saul whom Jesus gave the name Paul was Officer In Charge of executing those who were following THE WAY, which is Christianity. Constantine or Romans and Greek do not hold the guardianship of Christianity, the faith of Judaism. There were 11 other Apostles appointed by Jesus out of 12.

  19. @Ash
    My above comment is reply to you. I would suggest you to visit the given link. Bible is not word of god. It was written by many writers, decades and centuries after death of Jesus.
    Jesus and Christ are two different persons. Some scholars of comparative religion say that Christ is Krishna. All stories in Bible were copied from Pagan religious books. All christisans are being fooled by churches and popes since 2014 years.

    • Akanksha ji namaste!
      Yes i agree Bible isn’t the word of God. It was written by falliable humans. Nevertheless its a good guide to spirituality though especially the Gospels.
      I have a question…Since you believe the Vedas are directly from God. How did God provide the Vedas to Humans?
      Personally? (But This contradicts your view since the people of this site believe God doesn’t take avatar)
      i agree Vedas are divine but How was it offered to Humans by God?
      Regards
      Ash

  20. @Ash
    I don’t believe in Avatar-vad. I don’t believe Krishna Rama were avatar of God. I believe the universe is manifestation of God. In my opinion Vedas were written by many Rishis. They obtained knowledge through intuition.

    • You said “Vedas were written by Rishis by intuition…”
      Then the apaurusheyatva of Vedas cannot be accepted. and it becomes as falliable as all other Holy Books. As per your description, Vedas cannot be accepted as sruti..
      Also if you accept intuition of the Rishis why did you stop with Vedas?
      There are more like Vedanta Sutra , Bhagavad Gita etc.
      And undoubtedly these shastras support Avatar vada.

    • Yea the Bible is evil and Good as well…I don’t accept the non-sensical things in it….Like Creationism in Genesis…..but books like the Gospel of John, Matthews and the Psalms are really good.

  21. @Ash
    So you don’t believe that Vedas are infallible ? Did you read Vedas ? Didn’t you read I said- I believe God pervades everything ? Let me tell you I am born Jain but I believe in scientifically proved Advaitavad ( Non-duality) philosophy of Hinduism.
    Many contradictions are found in Gospel. Still you accept it as ‘good’ teachings of Bible. Believe me Jesus was self-obsessed self-proclaimed god. He fabricated story of scientifically disproved creationism and he imposed Christianity on…

    • @Akanksha ji
      //God pervades everything// So what? Why could only those Rishis write Vedas, why not others?
      If Rishis wrote the Vedas, then it is Man Made. If God used Rishis as a tool to write Vedas, then Rishis are prophets and i know you don’t accept Prophets and Avatars…Please Clarify this confusion about Origin of Vedas.
      I have a different conception. I believe God gave the Vedas to the First Humans personally as i believe in Avatarism. So I don’t face this problem. .

    • //Many Contradictions in Bible// What type of contradictions are you referring to?
      I don’t read it word to word..I believing in simply seeking the essence…Moral of the Story!
      So even if it didn’t actually happen in history it wouldn’t bother me

  22. @ Mr. Ash
    Rishis were first Aryas ( first human beings) who descended on Earth from Param Dham( soul world) in the beginning of Sat Yug. ( of current Srishti Chakra). And hence they knew the TRUTH.
    These fake Abrahamic religions ( Judaism, Christinity, Islam) are born in Kali Yug and hence they believe that God is outside of the universe who tests his creation, one-life, dooms day etc.

    • Thanks for the clarification Akanksha ji
      What is opinion on Darwinian Evolution ?
      As per Wikipedia almost 80% Hindus accept it.
      Is it compatible with Hinduism? i don’t think it is
      regards
      Ash

    • Thanks for the clarification Akanksha ji
      What is your opinion on Darwinian Evolution ?
      As per Wikipedia almost 80% Hindus accept it.
      Is it compatible with Hinduism? i don’t think it is
      regards
      Ash

  23. Mr. Ash I don’t believe in Darwin’s theory of evolution. Today’s human being is not evolved from Homo Sapiens or Neanderthals.In fact first human beings were spiritually and scientifically advanced Aryas.

    • I also deny Darwinian Evolution theory.
      But does the scriptures give any reference to the origin of species?
      And where did the four Rishis come from?
      Do you accept the story of Manu created by Brahma as described in the Puranas?
      regards
      Ash

  24. Mr. Ash I already told you- I don’t believe in Avataravad, Brahma, Vishnu, Mahesh, devi, devata etc.
    You believe god ” created” universe . But I believe God ”manifested” himself in the form of universe including 4 rishis, you, me, everyone, everything. There are no boundary lines which separate God and universe. Specifically saying, God is universe.

    • If God exists in space, this means God is existing in this Universe. If God is present in the Universe, the Universe cannot be a separate object of entertainment to God. Veda says that this Universe is created for His entertainment (Ekaki Na …). If you are present in the cinema and become the cinema by pervading all over the cinema, the cinema is not a separate object for you and therefore cannot give entertainment to you.

    • If the subject and object are one and the same, there is no existence of object at all. It means God did not create this universe.
      If the creation is absent, there is no entertainment to God. This leads to the inability of God to create a separate object for His entertainment. Such inability makes God impotent and then God cannot be omnipotent. Therefore, the separate existence of the Universe in which God is not present, must be accepted to avoid all these contradictions.

  25. Why a perfect God needs ” entertainment” ? Here is the meaning of the word perfect – having everything that is necessary; complete and without faults and weaknesses.
    If God created universe or creation for his own entertainment, then he is not God( perhaps he is Abrahamic God).
    You believe God ”created” universe out of ignorance or under the influence of Maya/Mithya. I believe that Maya is true but not TRUTH. God is the only TRUTH.

    • Strange! you call yourself a student of Advaita…Don’t you know Nirgun Brahman became Isvara and the world is his lila (sport/entertainment)
      For the sake of sport, God created the world. Lokavattu Lila Kaivalyam.
      That is the reason Acharya Sankara assumes everything as illusion because Brahman is unchangeable and if Brahman becomes the world as you say its contradictory…

  26. It’s really strange that you didn’t understand 10 % of what I said. Adi Shankarachary said- Brahm Saty Jagat Mithya. It means God is the only truth and the universe is illusion. Quantum Physicists are saying the same.They are saying the whole universe is nothing but wavefunction. Matter does not exist. I’ll explain you more on this topic later.

  27. I said that I believe God ”manifested”( not created) himself in the form of universe OR God is experiencing himself in the form of universe.
    Brahma experiences himself as Sagun Brahma in one Brahma day. Sagun Brahma means Brahma with qualities OR Brahma in activity. God spits himself into many. This current phase is Brahma day.

  28. Typo : It’s splits means gets divided into many.
    Brahma experiences himself as Nirgun Brahma in one Brahma night. Nirgun Brahma means Brahma without qualities OR Brahma at rest. There is no multiplicity of selves.

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