The core foundation of Hindu belief is that Vedas contain source of all knowledge – physical or metaphysical. However, in last 100 odd years, this belief has come under scrutiny due to the advances that modern science claims to make.
An entire group of Vedic ‘experts’ has stood up to prove that Vedas contain early man theories and are not compatible with modern discoveries. These include communist historians propelled by commentaries on Vedas by western Indologists like Max Muller, Griffith et al and a new breed of intellectuals who initiate all research with assumption that ‘old means defective’. However in modern era of religious marketing, another group has come up which would go to any length to discover scientific errors in Vedas. This is the group which would want 800 million Hindus to lose faith in Vedas and their religion and embrace what they believe is the final message of God. Yes I am referring to Islamic and Christian evangelists.
While both these groups of evangelists are propelled by vision of making everyone in world a follower of their respective Holy Books, the situation is even more desperate for Quran zealots. This is because a bulk of Islamic evangelists believes that Jesus will come again towards end of the world after which they would reach Paradise forever. And an important sign of Jesus’ coming is conquest of India. I do not know the original source of this superstition, but this remains a primary motivator for most Islamic evangelists today.
Thus, every now and then, we would see references to ‘Scientific Errors in Hinduism’. The typical pattern would be English translation of some mantra followed by a Veda Mantra reference.
Often the reference and English translation are both pointing to sources best known to authors of these works. But for layman, these create a lot of confusion and doubt over relevance of Vedas. While I would shy away from thrusting my personal faith on Vedas, I would like to provide some excerpts from Vedas that provide clues to deep scientific concepts hidden within them.
Unfortunately, due to thousand years of slavery, burning of our universities and libraries by barbarians and then demands for tackling issues of survival first, there remains a lot of work to be done to rediscover the Vedic sciences. However, sufficient clues exist to justify why this rediscovery would be worthwhile.
A new propaganda has become popular over last few months, which is being pursued aggressively on various internet websites, discussion groups, and social networking sites. Agniveer has received more than 50 references to this propaganda through emails, comments, and messages, either in support of it or with a request to counter it. Simply type “Scientific Errors in Hinduism” in Google and you shall get a huge number of results on this.
Initially, Agniveer thought this to be a childish blabbering not worth taking seriously. However, going by the alarming rate of its propagation, and considering the average mental aptitude of those trying to demean Vedas to establish a medieval era book as the only escape for all human beings from a burning Hell to an amorous Paradise, Agniveer finds it necessary to issue a rebuttal.
The original text comes in different variations but essentially provides a few Mantras from Vedas and some other tall claims to showcase Hinduism as unscientific.
In this chapter, we shall review each of the anti-Hindu claims of the document point by point and also provide some brief snippets of sufficient clues exist in Vedas.
A point of note: Vedas not being dogmatic in nature and containing eternal truths do not try to spoon-feed us. Thus, Vedas would contain seeds for all forms of knowledge and would urge humans to explore further. Because in the Vedic framework, it is our efforts that can provide us bliss.
Vedas say Earth is static!
Allegation 1: Indra has made this earth static.
According to Vedas, the earth is static, and this statement is repeated several times. The following are some of the examples: “Oh Man! He who made the trembling earth static is Indra.”
Rig Veda 2/12/12
Agniveer
Actual translation of the Mantra:
“He who ensures that the sun with seven colour bands that shines, the clouds that rain, air that circulates, water bodies that nourish us – all work in harmony to provide us life and vitality have been managed by Indra or the Ishwar who provides prosperity.”
Rig Veda 2/12/12
There is nothing about the static earth in this Mantra.
Allegation 2: God has made earth stable.
The God who made the earth stable.
Yajur Veda 32/6
Agniveer
Unfortunately, the “scientist” who wrote this could not distinguish between stable and static. Anything that moves or stays in equilibrium as per defined laws is stable and when there is an element of randomness or unpredictability, it becomes unstable. Stability DOES NOT mean lack of motion.
By the way, this is a great Mantra recited by Hindus daily, and it means:
“May we surrender all our actions and thoughts only to Him who has stabilised the sun and other illuminating bodies, the earth, the heavenly bodies and the entire universe solely for our happiness and who provides us ultimate bliss after Mukti or Salvation.”
Yajur Veda 32/6
Very clearly the Mantra says that all heavenly bodies, including the sun, are stable. Thus, even by the wildest stretch of “Heavenly” imagination, one cannot bring such a ridiculous meaning to this Mantra that implies earth as being static.
Allegation 3: Indra protects “immovable” earth.
Indra protects the wide earth which is immovable and has many forms.
Atharva Veda 12/1/11
Agniveer
This Mantra is from the famous Bhumi Sukta, which forms the origin of the sense of love that patriots demonstrate for Dharti Mata. When one reads this Sukta today considering how our freedom fighters would die for this soil and often carrying this soil in hand till last breath, one cannot help getting his eyes wet with a sense of gratitude towards those great legends whose debts we have to repay through our deeds.
The particular Mantra means:
“O Earth, you provide me with great snow-capped mountains and hills, forests, farms, food, herbs and rains so that I am always happy, protected and nurtured. You provide me with the support I need to live like a king.”
Atharva Veda 12/1/11
The following Mantra continues –
You are my mother, O Earth, and I am your son. You purify us and may we be able to repay your blessings through our noble actions.
What could be better thought on love for mother earth? However, perhaps patriotism and allegiance to the soil are alien to Anti-Hindu mindsets. That is why this is so unscientific for them!
Allegation 4: Walk on the Wide and Static earth.
Let us walk on the Wide and Static earth.
Atharva Veda 12/1/17
Agniveer
Actual meaning of the Mantra:
“May we travel all around the earth that provides us prosperity, nutrition, medicines and supports us in a variety of ways.”
Atharva Veda 12/1/17
The foolish Anti-Hindu just saw the word “Dhruva” and started imagining silly things. “Dhruva” means something that provides reliable support.
On the contrary, there are several Mantras in Vedas that clearly discuss the movement of the earth. Some examples:
• “This earth is devoid of hands and legs, yet it moves ahead. All the objects over the earth also move with it. It moves around the sun.
In this mantra,
Kshaa = Earth (refer Nigantu 1.1)
Ahastaa = without hands
Apadee = without legs
Vardhat = moves ahead
Shushnam Pari = Around the sun
Pradakshinit = revolves
Rig Veda 10/22/14
• “The sun has tied Earth and other planets through attraction and moves them around itself as if a trainer moves newly trained horses around itself holding their reins.”
In this mantra,
Savita = Sun
Yantraih = through reins
Prithiveem = Earth
Aramnaat = Ties
Dyaam Andahat = Other planets in sky as well
Atoorte = Unbreakable
Baddham = Holds
Ashwam Iv Adhukshat = Like horses
Rig Veda 10/149/1
• “The sun moves in its own orbit in space taking along with itself the mortal bodies like earth through force of attraction.”
Yajur Veda 33/43
• “The sun moves in its own orbit but holding earth and other heavenly bodies in a manner that they do not collide with each other through force of attraction.”
Rig Veda 1/35/9
• “Sun moves in its orbit which itself is moving. Earth and other bodies move around the sun due to the force of attraction, because the sun is heavier than them.”
Rig Veda 1/164/13
Vedas say the sun moves around the earth!
Allegation 5: Horses take the sun to the sky.
“Sun is full of light and knows all the human beings, so his horses take him to the sky to look at the world.”
Rig Veda 1/50/1
Agniveer
Again this is a daily prayer Mantra for Hindus. It means:
“The way rays of sun enable the world to see the sun; in the same manner, all noble people should propagate their goodness far and wide through good deeds and teachings.”
Rig Veda 1/50/1
There is neither a horse in this Mantra nor Mantra talks about sun moving around any earth.
Allegation 6: Chariot takes the sun to the sky.
“O, Bright sun, a chariot named harit with seven horses takes you to the sky.”
Rig Veda 1/50/8
Agniveer
Actual meaning of the Mantra:
“The way seven rays of sun carry its illumination across the world like horses of a chariot; in the same manner, you should understand seven kinds of Chhanda of Vedas.”
Rig Veda 1/50/8
One can try to interpret this Mantra to mean that the sun moves. However, then how would one explain rays as seven horses, because rays emanate from all around the sun and not necessarily in the direction of sun’s motion only.
Further, Vedas, in any case, do not deny that the sun moves. In fact, Vedas clearly state that the sun also moves, and there is no static body in the universe.
There is no mention of motion of the sun around the earth in this or any other Mantras.
As per Rig Veda 1/35/9, the sun has a different motion in its own orbit.
Allegation 7: Sun takes a round of the earth.
“O man, the sun who is most attractive takes a round of the earth on his golden chariot through the sky and removes the darkness of the earth.”
Yajur Veda 33/43
Agniveer
Actual meaning of the Mantra:
“The sun moves in its own orbit in space taking along with itself the mortal bodies like earth through force of attraction.”
Yajur Veda 33/43
Exactly this happens in reality. Even the most basic text on astronomy would cover this subject. Anti-Hindu texts have no notion of the concept of gravitational force causing Anti-Hindu scientists to raise a red-herring on this.
Allegation 8: Bull has supported the sky.
Vedas say The Bull has supported the Sky. “The Bull has supported the sky.”
Yajur Veda 4/30
Agniveer
Classic case of “One burnt in rainy season seeing only green colour”! The Anti-Hindu scientist simply saw the word “Vrishabh” and created yet another imagination by assuming it to mean a bull.
“Vrishabh” actually means an entity that is powerful, possessing high potentials or simply the best. It later came to mean the ‘bull’ also because the ‘bull’ is a symbol of raw power. There is hardly any animal that can match the bull in power and speed. Even a lion does not dare attack a bull from the front.
The actual meaning of the Mantra is:
“O All-Powerful Ishwar, you permeate all across the universe, create and nurture the earth, stabilise the sun, manage the heavenly bodies and sky and ensure like a righteous king that everything functions in the correct manner. This is your inherent nature.”
Yajur Veda 4/30
Allegation 9: Bull has supported the sky – 2.
“The Bull has supported the sky.”
Yajur Veda 14/5
Agniveer
This Mantra does not have any word that can mean a bull. This Mantra is on duties of a wife.
It states:
“O wife! May you be pleasing to your husband and indulge in noble activities. May you be extremely intelligent and further your knowledge through study like the sun. May you provide bliss to everyone in the same manner as the brilliant sun provides food, light and purity to all. May you please everyone in the same manner as water satisfies all. May you promote knowledge all across.”
Yajur Veda 14/5
Indeed, an amazing Mantra showing the Vedic respect for a woman. What can be a better example of women empowerment?
Miscellaneous allegations from Puranas
The rest of this silly article provides references from Puranas on how Hinduism is unscientific. However, Puranas are not at all considered evidence in the matter of Dharma. Only Vedas are considered divine, and we have adequately demonstrated how stupid the claims of Vedas being ‘unscientific’ are.
As for Puranas, they even contain descriptions of Muhammad Sahib, Akbar, and Victoria showing that they continued to be written until the 19th century, obviously under the might of the incumbent rule. So we shall simply not dwell into exploring the references given. We, however, doubt that even there, these anti-Hindu scientists would have made the same kind of blunders like they did while proving Muhammad Sahib in Bhavishya Puran as a demon worthy of being punished!
Two additional points remain to be covered apart from the references from Purana. Let us review them:
Allegation 10: No scientific truth in sun worship.
Vedas / Puranas recommend looking directly into the sun with the naked eye. The Vedas and Puranas say that all Hindus must pray to the sun god SURYA and that if you look at the sun daily every morning with your naked eyes, your sight will improve. Accordingly, many Hindus practice this act of worship; but instead of their eyesight improving, India is the country that has the most blind people in the world (2.5 million blind people and 9 million with corneal blindness). There is no scientific truth in sun worship, and on the contrary, the scientist and doctors advise everyone not to look at the sun directly with the naked eye. Who is telling us the truth, the Scientists or the Hindu scriptures? You be the judge!
Agniveer
No references have been provided in support of this allegation. Hence, this is only a vague allegation.
Yes, it is a natural treatment of India for eyes by watching the sunrise. There has been no a single case in the world that has caused damage to eyesight because they watched a sunrise or sunset. Refer: Solar observing and Eye Safety that provides references to several technical papers on this subject.
Damage to eyes happens when watching bright sun or eclipse. Hindus rightfully strongly recommend staying away from gazing the sun during those times.
The statistics on blindness in India is interesting. However, can the Anti-Hindu scientist also provide details on how many of these blinds were Hindus and how many contracted blindness due to watching the sunrise? Cataract is the prime cause of blindness in developing countries, and not a single research cited sunrise watching as the cause of blindness. Also, the prevalence of blindness is slightly more in Pakistan compared to India. What religion do they follow?
Allegation 11: Nothing is scientific about the holy cow.
Vedas say the cow is holy and should be worshipped. (Brahmins add that cow dung ash has medicinal value). The Vedas say that the cow is holy and should be worshipped. These Brahmins also claim that cow dung ash has medicinal value. Samples sent to a leading test laboratory in West Germany have proved this to be untrue.
Agniveer
Yes, Vedas indeed emphatically state that cow is most precious to sensible human beings and those who kill cows for a taste of tongues are indeed among the dumbest. Because a living cow, even if sterile, produces more benefits for the environment than a dead cow. Almost all outputs from a cow – milk, dung, urine – have a beneficial impact on environment and health. A smart community can sustain its power through preservation of cows alone.
We request to cite the name of the lab which proved cow dung ash to be useless. Kindly do not provide vague references. By the way, West Germany ceases to exist since 1990! Agniveer recalls how Zakir Naik also gives reference to research by some illiterate ‘farmer’ in California to justify Halal Meat. This shows the standards of the references of Anti-Hindu scientists!
Cow dung has been proven to produce tremendous benefits including construction of bricks. There are at least four International Patents (US/ Europe) on cow urine that Agniveer is aware of. Simply search on Google with ‘cow urine patent’.
Thus, rightfully Hindus regard cow to be as important as the mother.
Science is the foundation of Hindu Culture
Before concluding, let me assert a few points.
Science lies not only in scriptures of Hindus but even more so in the foundations of their culture. The most basic traditions of Hindus based on most scientific principles, despite being polluted by superstitions and foreign impacts.
• Namaste with folded hands is scientific
• Bangles and earrings for women are scientific
• Drinking lots of water in early morning as Usha-Paan is scientific
• Avoiding non-veg in pretext of some festival to extent possible is scientific
• Monogamy is scientific
• Considering all women except wife as equivalent to mother is scientific
• Encouraging children to ask questions is scientific
• Meditation is scientific
• Pranayam is scientific
• Desi Vyayam is scientific
• Not eating together from the same plate and avoiding exchange of saliva is scientific
• Washing hands several times with soap and water after bowels is scientific
• Washing organs properly with water during the bath is scientific
• Avoid needing circumcision merely to maintain hygiene is scientific.
Thus, a typical educated Hindu can easily inculcate scientific spirit and rationalism and progress ahead.
Proof of the pudding is in the eating. There are around 50 countries in the world with a Muslim majority, but fanatic rulers dominate almost all. Showcase how many renowned scientists have they produced, how many researchers, how many engineers of world repute?
There has been only one Muslim scientist worth being considered the Nobel Prize winner, Dr. Abdus Salam of Pakistan. However, he was thrown out of the country and declared Kafir because he was a Qadiyani. Thus, no Zakir Naik would dare take his name even though he would shout a lot on how Islam is the foundation of all science!
When Dr. Salam died in 1996, on his grave was inscribed “First Muslim Nobel Laureate”. However, due to orders of government, the word Muslim was removed. It now reads “First Nobel Laureate”!
There are other renowned scientists like Dr. Pervez Hoodbhoy and late Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam, and indeed, we are proud of them. Moreover, they also are proud of our ancient culture and history. They are thus noble Vedas followers and our jewels. If their version of Islam be promoted instead of what neo-Wahabis are propagating, the world would be a heaven.
Watch how the great Islamic Pakistani scholar and writer Hasan Nisar, exposes the intellectual capabilities of fanatic Muslim Ummat blatantly. He has repeatedly said that Muslim Ummat has not produced even a single intellectual from the centuries but still live in illusions of grandiose that never existed causing them to sink down and down.
Compare with Hindus. They are at top positions everywhere despite all odds. Right from the inception of civilisation, this culture has produced the most brilliant minds and continues producing even today. The reason obviously lies in the scientific foundations of the Hindu culture.
Thus, while a Pakistan is crumbling under its own weight after independence, India is surging ahead despite having a corrupt leadership and minority appeasement based mindset of its selfish leaders.
Before we conclude let’s see review some sufficient clues from Vedas
Science of Gravitational Force in Vedas
“O Indra! by putting forth your mighty rays, which possess the qualities of gravitation and attraction-illumination and motion – keep up the entire universe in order through the Power of your attraction.”
Rig Veda 8/12/28
“O God, You have created this Sun. You possess infinite power. You are upholding the sun and other spheres and render them steadfast by your power of attraction.
Rig Veda 1/6/5, Rig Veda 8/12/30
“The sun moves in its own orbit in space taking along with itself the mortal bodies like earth through force of attraction.”
Yajur Veda 33/43
“The sun moves in its own orbit but holding earth and other heavenly bodies in a manner that they do not collide with each other through force of attraction.
Rig Veda 1/35/9
“Sun moves in its orbit which itself is moving. Earth and other bodies move around the sun due to the force of attraction, because the sun is heavier than them.
Rig Veda 1/164/13
“The sun has held the earth and other planets.”
Atharva Veda 4/11/1
Science of Light of Moon in Vedas
“The moving moon always receives a ray of light from sun.”
Rig Veda 1/84/15
“Moon decided to marry. Day and Night attended its wedding. And sun gifted his daughter “Sun Ray” to Moon.”
Rig Veda 10/85/9
Science of Eclipse in Vedas
“O Sun! When you are blocked by the one whom you gifted your own light (moon), then earth gets scared by sudden darkness.”
Rig Veda 5/40/5
Science of Building Ships and Aeroplanes in Vedas
Swami Dayanand has detailed Mantras regarding these in his Vedic commentary and Introduction to Vedas” (1876). The scientists of IISc concluded that the mechanism of the aeroplane as suggested by Dayanand is feasible. The first manned plane was built 20 years after the death of Swami Dayanand.
The verses are difficult to translate in English here, but readers are advised to review “Introduction to Vedas” by Swami Dayanand or interpretations of following mantras: Rig Veda 1/116/3, 1/116/4, 10/62/1, 1/116/5, 1/116/6, 1/34/2, 1/34/7, 1/48/8, etc.
Science of Telegraphy in Vedas
“With the help of bipolar forces (Asvins), you should employ telegraphic apparatus made of a good conductor of electricity. It is necessary for efficient military operations but should be used with caution.”
Rig Veda 1/119/10
Conclusion
I hope this would be sufficient to at least drive the need for further exploration of our scientific heritage originating from Vedas. Agniveer strongly recommends those who have been brainwashed to hate non-Muslims and especially Hindus for most silly reasons to introspect on this. Agniveer recommends they read our books on Vedas to get the right concepts of Vedas and stop this hatred in the name of religion that only makes them, even more, dumber!
Vedas clearly declare that either you can have hatred or intelligence, but not both!
May the truth prevail!
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हरी ॐ 🙂
so funny these pagans..
your religion is probably the fastest dying religion nowdays.
sorry not probably… fact. google it.
i never met one who convert to hinduism before. it’s just funny if its truly happens. haha..
in fact many people were leaving hinduism for islam, christianity, judaism and some became atheist coz they had no more faith on hinduism. hindus are decreasing in population.
perhaps in the next few century, there will be no more hindus.
perhaps in 4000BC, people will think hinduism is just a myth.=D
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Eternal Hellfire is the punishment for any wrong you do.
Oh Sorry! Eternal Hellfire is the punishment for all non believers in Islam.
Can you give me a justification on this Mr. Cardoza.
Reply Must if you dare to…
Give me an explanation on or give me a logical relation between worst wrong deed on earth and etern hell.
Sorry replied to the wrng person… Meant to reply to the guy above u…
even if cardoza calls himself a Muslim … his words are UN-ISLAMIC … and Rahul ji … Islam is not a new religion … it is from time immemorial Do some research on Religions and you will come closer and closer to islam!
Why people attack Islam so firmly Mr. rahul jaiswal? Islam is all about Quran and sahih hadith (bukhari and Muslim). And talking about hellfire, yes quran says that disbelievers would enter hell afterlife. But tell me one thing if you have brains that if you have to give an exam provided with a specific syllabus and you are warned that if you will not study you will fail (or you will get punishment) and if still you do not study and fail, whom will you blame? the institute, the syllabus or yourself? Allah almighty will subject all the disbelievers to the hell coz he has already ordained to obey Him and warned that IF YOU’LL NOT DO SO THEN AND ONLY THEN HE WILL PUNISH YOU WITH THE HELLFIRE.
Is that enough for your little brain or should i explain it some more?
ishwar v allah me bhari antar hai, jaise manushy v jaanwar me hai .kuch bate jaanwar v manushy me saman hoti hai, iska yah arth nahi ho jata ki dono barabar hogaye hai ! qurani allah satve asman me ek singhasan me baitha hua hai uska snghasan kuch farishte uthaye huye hai 1 yani quraniallah simit hai tab uski shakti bui simit kyonahi kahi jayegi jiskishakti simit hi usk ishvarke barabar darja bhu nahi diya ja saktab ahi ! jabki ishvar ek shakti ka naam hai vah nikar hai aur pure bramhand me saman rup se faili huyi hai ! uska koi vishesh sthan nahi hai!
Well to be true islam and christenity are religions of dark age. No religion can be very true which does not allow the complete freedom of humans. Humans have intellect to think and also to decipher whats right and wrong and for this one do not need religion but moral ethics and values. Now if a religion say that whatever is there with or whatever you are is the wish of the god i would not agree to that because i know that every action has opposite reaction thats what our holy book Geeta says that one is rewarded according to the karma. The religion of dark age limits the human capability or i would say chains the imense capability a human possess. All other but hinduism and other religion that have come from it do not put such type of constrains these religion indeed encourges that a human has the capability to be one with god. If anyone has the true sense of veda and upanishads will know what is god its the omnipresent superconciousness and everything in this world has the same conciousness its only the matter of realizing it. And this is what scientists are busy experimenting to find the god particle. False propogandas are the one that needs to be spread at any cost not the truth because truth though will take its own time but one day everyone will come to know it. We hindus dont waste money and time in brainwashing people to convert in to hinduism, in fact people who comes to hinduism is conceived and not converted. Google about people converted to hinduism
@ A MUSLIM
What does Islam say about all those people that lived before Mohammad? Did they go to hell or heaven? On what basis did they go here and there?
Dear A Muslim,
Not only brother Rahul’s but every human has a limited intellectual capacity. There is only so much we can understand. And with that limited capacity we are making our choices which can so easily go wrong. In that case what Rahul ji was pointing is how can a punishment to an eternal hell fire be justifiable? If we fail in an exam there is always a second time. Yes u might suffer, but the true purpose of an examination is to make you knowledgeable. And the problem is there are so many syllabuses and institutes and hence one is bound to make a choice.
I would rather choose an institute which gives importance to the knowledge learned rather than emphasizing on punishments and rewards. Hope ‘my brain was big enough’ to make my opinion clear.
Prasanth Gupta,
Excellent bro. Keep up those brilliant statements coming.
Best,
Krishnarao
i read vedas its good but now a days hindus are not following vedas in vedas its clearly mentioned god is one and god has no shape but now a days hindus pray to idol worships this is wrong every hindu should follow the vedas not to pandits
1) To answer your question lets take the example of a mother whose son is working overseas. she looks at the picture of his son and expresses her love for her son using that picture. Now the photo is not her son but still she feels her son close through that photo. Now, if you are intelligent then you will understand this example and also understand why worshiping of God through Murti is so innocent, pure and not against Vedas
LOL… u shld come visit ISCON temples in India & abroad – and see how many foreigners come there. Our yoga is practiced all over the world. Hinduism is so popular in the west that the christians are getting scared (even though we do not do any conversions & there is no concept of conversion in hinduism like in Islam or Christianity). Time Magazine once published an article saying ‘We Are All Hindus Now’ talking about the immense influence of hinduism in the west. LOL…
Wtach this ans see how exteremely impressed foreigners get with hinduism: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC_fXh4LFc0
LOL… u shld come visit ISCON temples in India & abroad – and see how many foreigners come there. Our yoga is practiced all over the world. Hinduism is so popular in the west that the christians are getting scared (even though we do not do any conversions & there is no concept of conversion in hinduism like in Islam or Christianity). Time Magazine once published an article saying ‘We Are All Hindus Now’ talking about the immense influence of hinduism in the west. LOL…
Wtach this ans see how exteremely impressed foreigners get with hinduism: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC_fXh4LFc0
BTW, never met anyone who converted to hinduism? Ever heard of Julia Roberts?
diseases are spreading
loose morals are spreading
pollution is spreading
so basically all the negative things are spreading.
DOES THIS MEAN , THE ABOVE SAID THINGS ARE GOOD ?
in the same list we can add Islam and Christianity.
quality is more important than quantity. Muslims and christians advertise their religion. we don’t .BTW there is no conversion procedure in sanathana dharma.
there are more dumb people than smart ones. does this mean being dumb is good ? your argument is just stupid like you.
we are talking about religions and not Cults!! there is a lot of difference between them.
I have come across many times where some random Christian Dude on the road gives me a pamphlet on some speech .I would completely agree if he mistook me for a Christian .But this is impossible because I am having a Tuft and wear holy ash on my fore head. Damn, Why does he need to give a paper to a Non-Christian ?? But If you see Any Pamphlet distribution by Hindus on any religious discourse , It is given only outside Temples( This is very rare and All this years I go to temple everyday and I have seen this only once)
Why is this difference??
And If you see in India(Chennai) , 99% of the christians are Slum Dwellers .My house maid being one also converted to Christianity . When I asked why she did it , she said that they gave her Rs.500 and 5Kgs of Rice. Do you get it. You people take advantage of the poor people. And this is the case in African Countries Too. You want to have Christian Domination and So does Muslims. If you see the whole population of India , a majority of Christians are poor converts. YOU BRIBE FOR CONVERSION!!!!!!
And about muslims………Forget it, Hopeless!!!!!………you can see some random muslim converting some christian on the streets of london .
@aditya, we have to admit that Hinduism is not a missionary religion and if some Christian missionary help poor and needy and in return poor hindus give up there faith then you should not complain because
firstly you have not given them money and love and
secondly it means they have nothing in the name of faith one you can give them more money.
same complaint african Muslim do but i think it is not valid.
@anti-agni
Brother, worship Allah & remember prophet with every breath. Allah will be happy by getting worship from us. Allah will punish non-believer in prophet.
@false slave, are you still alive? It means you r not a real slave. otherwise you have to accept punishment of zina.
BTW you have not answered my last post ?????
False slave /falsehood seeker/satya ji hay/ /cannibal1-2-3/aryasamaji/ imposter
@false slave, i really enjoy to humiliate you an impostor…deeply heart when read something bad about moolshankar “the legend of Hinduism”
@anti-agni
Thanks, it is my duty to preach religion of my beloved prophet Mohammed (PBUH). & I have confirm with Saudi Masters, they have directed me that there is no sin did by prophet by doing sex with 6 years old Asia at his 55 of age. & We should all follow prophet (SAW) footsteps.
@false slave, but you have to follow moolshankar and wrap the napkins ? If you have confirmed then y are you asking again and again……unwanted aryasamaji snake.
@anti-agni
I am follower of prophet Mohammed. I expect from you also to follow prophet. Are u following prophet? Have u or your father did sex with 6 years old girl? Have you looted the property and woman of non-believers. Have you or your father did sex with daughter in – law? If not please follow the prophet Mohammed footsteps and secure heaven for your self.
Ameen!
How Islam makes us true believer in Allah.
http://alisina.org/blog/2012/03/07/islam-the-religion-ofs-moral-relativism/
That’s the problem with you slave. you follow a man, and we follow GOD!!!!!!!!!
Allah will not even punish you if you dnt even pray. Why should he do so? If he does, then he’s waiting for you to commit an evil deed and the punish you. All you have to be is to be a good human being and breath the fresh air allah has made provision for you. Mind will open up and brain will start working again
@ anti-agni says (October 30, 2012 at 6:57 am )
you must be happy with the condition of countries like afghanistan and pakistan.
Kill the innocents, destroy their properties and then do the charity.
You should know the difference between Religion and Cult before discussing in a forum which speaks about religion. Vodoo completely fits the definition of a cult.It is something like Freemason .
I am a commerce student, advertising is done only for following reasons
-Advertisement is done while introducing something NEW to make the public know about the product.
-To sell a product which is moving slowly (for inferior products)
-When anything is having stiff competition
Now Christianity is .not new. It has been there for almost 2000 years.2nd point, you choose the answer
The third one,dude!! isn’t a religion supposed to help people (No matter what background they come from??). Here christianity sees Hinduism as a competition !!!!
YOU DON’T NEED TO DISTRIBUTE PAMPHLETS TO HINDUS , IF JESUS IS GREAT, ONE DAY THEY WOULD CONVERT TO CHRISTIANS .
AND IF YOU PEOPLE REALLY CARE FOR THE DOWNTRODDEN , YOU SHOULD HELP THEM HAVE A SECURE FUTURE (NO MATTER WHETHER THEY CONVERT OR NOT) AND NOT MAKE A ONE TIME PAYMENT FOR CONVERTING .
You Said,
“Been living in Anna nagar, Chennai for more than 15yrs and many of my cousins and friends in besant nagar, T nagar and Adayar have all accepted Christ and don’t see much of slums in these areas either.. So your “objective” research on 99% of neo-converts being slum dwellers in Chennai will be educational…”
THAT SHOWS YOUR IGNORANCE. HAVE YOU EVER STEPPED INSIDE A SLUM??? YOU HAVE NOT GONE TO THE CORE OF THE PROBLEM AND HOW CAN YOU DISCUSS ABOUT IT. I DID IT AS A PROJECT IN RED CROSS AND I HAVE PERSONALLY INTERVIEWED MANY CONVERTS.
AND I REQUEST YOU TO READ ” GOD MUST BE CRAZY!” IN THIS WEBSITE. I DARE YOU TO ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS IN THAT ARTICLE .THAT ONE ARTICLE IS ENOUGH TO PROVE THE MAJOR FLAWS IN CHRISTIANITY!!!!
On Vodoo
Religion is something which has a holy book but Voodoo has nothing like that .It should have an established So basically I can start a belief saying I am god and according to your argument , I have started a religion. That is absolute rubbish!!
You just show why Voodoo is a RELIGION ???
And BTW this is not a forum to talk about Voodoo. Let’s discuss about sanathana Dharma.
On health Ministry,
If their advertisement was effective enough ,There wouldn’t be any Polio cases now. I mean everyone would have used it and Polio would completely eradicated. But it has not been eradicated because the advertisement has not reached everyone. Polio drop is still new in the remotest part of villages. And people would definitely accept any voluntary help for their child .But, not all are aware of polio, so advertisement is still necessary.
NOT ALL KNOW ABOUT THE SEVERITY OF POLIO so advertisement is required.
And I have read the Bible and It is a Ditto copy of the Buddhist Philosophy .
I consider Jesus as a teacher and Not God.
And you people say “Jesus Saves” I find it funny because he was not able to save Himself from his persecutors , How can he save us? And How can he die, Isn’t he supposed to be God.
I am not entitled to respect other gods. I may or may not have issues with their religion , BUT I RESPECT EVERYONE AS HUMANS . It is my view and freedom of speech. Moreover I can never accept any belief which Harms any Living creature. That’s why I Hate Islam (but not muslims-I treat them as humans) And Voodoo is no exception because they sacrifice humans .HOW CAN YOU JUSTIFY SACRIFICE IN THE NAME OF GOD. EVERY RELIGION SAYS GOD IS LOVING , HOW DO YOU EXPECT HIM TO ACCEPT OTHER CREATURES (INCLUDING HUMANS) AS GIFTS.
YOU SUPPORTING VOODOO BELIEF IS LIKE SUPPORTING HUMAN SACRIFICE . the reason I call Voodoo as a cult is because it is a blind Belief .I have no issues against Christianity because it is a peaceful religion and does not demand compulsory sacrifice . But Islam and Voodoo demands sacrifice to reach God. HOW CAN YOU EXPECT ME TO RESPECT A BELIEF WHICH HAS NO RESPECT FOR FELLOW HUMANS?????
And about Awareness ,
See it not like Jesus will accept only Christians to Heaven .I consider him as a Teacher who is also a role model. I consider even Buddha as my role model and Go to Bodh Gaya. But you should understand that BIBLE IS ONLY FOR CHRISTIANS . It discriminates between Christians and Non-Christians .BUT I KNOW THAT THE CURRENT BIBLE HAS BEEN MANIPULATED MANY TIMES. So I don’t support Christianity , but respect Jesus.
So going by the bible Non-Christians will go to hell.
Now why don’t you CREATE AN AWARENESS FROM THIS POINT????
YOU PEOPLE CREATE AN AWARENESS ONLY FROM A POSITIVE POINT. AREN’T YOU BEING PREJUDICE???
But the vedas do not discriminate between a Believer and a non-believer .
You just see the amount of foreigners coming to India to Learn more about Hindusim. They are not satisfied with their belief.
I am open for more comments
Yet Again you are not getting my point.
See do you think we go to the Roads of U.S.A and E.U and propagate our religion. People convert when they are not satisfied with their religion and In this is why many Christians are converting to Hinduism or becoming Atheist .Moreover it is the flexibility of Hinduism that it is still alive (for more than 5000yrs)
We have no hard and fast rules. In fact Vedas even talk about atheism. But all other religions except Buddhism ,Hinduism and Jainism ,Sikhism are really flexible.
You say Hindus do black Magic and Sacrifice. Well point ME ONE PLACE IN VEDAS WHERE VIOLENCE IS PROMOTED. And About PurushaMeda ,Ashwameda and all other sacrifices , go through this website. All your claims are translations of Christians/Muslims who knew nothing about VEDIC sanskrit . Because Vedic sanskrit is taught only in veda patashala and the difference between Vedic sanskrit and Classical sanskrit is like that of Victorian English and Modern American English .
About Voodoo, Dude !!! human Sacrifice is a very integral part of their rituals and it IS A PART OF THEIR RELIGION!!! But the sacrifices in Hinduism are not APPROVED .They Kill in the name of God.
And about Jihad, Have you read the Quran??? Well I have read it. The first part is contradictory to it’s ;ater parts. It goes on telling to subdue women ,promote killing infidels and Slavery. And technically the later parts are the correct ones . I request you to read the vedas and Quran before .And I have discussed this topic with many Muslims online and I have found out many errors in Quran. Eg. if islam promotes equality ,even men should wear purdha . If Islam is tolerant it should allow other religions.I can go with the list if you like. and not to forgets Infidels
And It is your friend’s view. See Hinduism accepts him if he is a Christian, Muslim ,jew or a buddhist . It just sees his Karma (Deed) as I said earlier , even atheists come under the Vedas .What else religion can be open Like This ????
Who said god reveals himself in every person .I a person is smart enough to fool people , you don’t need god to show it . And that’s What Mohammed did .Just compare him to Jesus (Sorry it is a disgrace to Jesus) . Could you call him a prophet ?? He is a Horrible person And IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR GOD TO REVEAL HIMSELF ON A PERSON WHO IS A SINNER. IF GOD DID IT, HE IS BIASED . BUT god can’t be biased which means Mohammed is not a prophet. Moreover I have argued with a muslim Guy who claimed Quran to Scientific. He listed a set of scientific facts and I showed the same in The vedas .If Quran was a revelation why did god reveal SOMETHING ALREADY KNOWN TO MAN??
Sorry , I have not heard of that Gunpoint conversion.
I do agree that Jesus Existed but he is a Guru and Not God. But that does not deny the fact That I pray to him. And many of my Christian Friends have agreed that the Bible has been edited many times. So I REJECT BIBLE AND ACCEPT JESUS AS A TEACHER because he taught good morals (just Like Gautama Buddha)
And I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOUR 3rd POINT. THAT’S THE CASE WITH HINDUISM AS WELL.
It is a common misconception that Hinduism has many Gods, but the only God is Brahman (Almighty) The other Gods are his mere attributes and Images . And Advaita Vedanta is not among the masses and the reason Why I like agniveer is because it stands for the true words of the vedas. Actually the vedas gave more importance to women and Had nothing like cast discrimination. It IS peaceful (with no animal/human sacrifices ) and does not discriminate any one based on their identity.
The current Scenario is Similar to the Period of Adi ShankaraCharya .
Satyameva Jayate
K !take your own Time
u cant understand, Islam teaches us a correct code of conduct for life….it teaches us how to implement laws and how to follow them correctly, too much of a freedom is bad.If Hinduism allows every one to follow their own way then it does not make it great one, it makes it weak. Now how can a religion protect itself from the troublemakers if its believers are not told to fight for its cause.Islam only implements force because the humans sometimes need mere force to correct them….now du u understand?!!!….too much of freedom can create havoc for everyone…and never dare to speak of my prophet like that!!!! I will cut u into pieces if I must!!!….cut me, burn me, beat me, abuse me and humiliate me but it will not make me leave my religion ever…….i just pray that u be guided.
I’ve understand that a slave will always remain a slave be it yesterday, today or tomorrow I’m happy you and your likes shall always be slaves. Believe me, I’m really happy you’ve dedicated your whole life as slave. I’m happy also for not believing in your holy prophet, i’m happy to go in what you call hell as I’m pretty well sure this hell will be far better than your heaven where you’ll still be a slave. Today I feel really I’m a blessed soul with freedom of mind. I don’t want to live in the same heaven where rapists, robbers and low moral ppls live.
@ Hamza
Pity your religion teaches you violence as a response to disagreement or even offense. You have shown the paucity of Islam by your comment. Saying that you will cut anyone into pieces for speaking ill of the prophet shows that this prophet taught you to be a savage criminal, fit more for prison than for polite civilized society. This is what you have shown by your own words. No one needs speak ill of your prophet because you yourself reveal him to be disreputable. You yourself bring Islam low. Violence is easy, you don’t need to be anything but a mere dumb brute for violence. If you are more than a violent dumb brute, and are capable in convincing people with words then here you can take Ali Sina’s challenge to all Muslims. Prove him wrong – if you can (so far not one Muslim has, not even one Islamic scholar) http://www.faithfreedom.org/challenge.htm
LOL well said!
I dont understand why all these muslims are arguing on Agniveer. This website is by the Hindus, for the Hindus and those interested in Hinduism.Maybe Muslims secretly desire to be Hindus. The forefathers of most muslims in India are descendents of Hindus who were tortured and converted to Islam by Muslim barbarians. It is sad to see these educated muslims taking such a stance. The poor , uneducated, madarsa educated (or uneducated) muslims are wrongly being being fed falsehoods by the mullahs. If muslims dont like Hinduism thay should confine themselves to their own websites. They unwelcome here.
@ Gurudev,
Sorry but Agniveer.com is not sectarian or biased in approach. This website is for any rational person who would agree to give up untruth and embrace the truth. Nowhere did this website ever RIDICULE or ABUSE any other religion (including Hinduism). Nowhere did this website ever PROMOTE any religion (including Hinduism). This website is by selfless people who wish to spread the CORRECT KNOWLEDGE through altruistic means.
Please correct me if you think I’m wrong.
Hey !! Sorry typo error in this line
“But all other religions except Buddhism ,Hinduism and Jainism ,Sikhism are really flexible.”
it is NOT FLEXIBLE
ADITYA I THINK YOU NEED A CHALLENGE RIGHT SO I AM WAITING LEARN ABOUT ISLAM AND LEARN ABOUT HINDHUISM THEN FACE ME AND I WILL WIN TAKE ALL THE SCIENTIFIC ERRORS IN QORAN AND I WILL TELL YOU SOME AND ALSO TELL YOU THAT THESE SCIENTIFIC ERRORS YOU GIVE ME ABOUT ISLAM IS WRONG DONT WOORY WITH PROOVES
Everything is Joke for a Clown….. By The Way, Which Religion do u Belong to Mr.Car Door Ja???
Before you comment Blindly, Try to know about your Origin…… refer History to know about your so called religion. Hinduism is a Culture… Its being followed since ages before your so called religions were even born.
Well said Teja,
Indeed no Hinduism in the beginning. (They) suddenly started to say themselves as biblical or Mohammedan. And they also called the others as (Hindus). What is religion Cardoza? Is there anything that you say “religion” eternally prevailed or sustained in this world? It is only a culture. Incidentally the nature split the lands in to several pieces and people became unknown about themselves after several generations and they started a new culture. And by encountering a new culture they named it as religion and more dumbly as opposite to their tradition. Lots of posts here Cardoza. You need to reply. You the one who started this discussion. Come on. Why to hesitate?
Islam is the greatest Invention of man……………. A long term population control plan (Terrorism)
Cardoza, I don’t know who are you but after reading you I am clear that you belongs to a very poor-literate and uncultured family. It is not your fault it is a great fault of your parents that they did not guide you enough or misguided you about Religion. What do you mean by “dying religion”. Do you know – Death of Hinduism is the Death of World.
There are nothing like Hinduism.
Islam spread there population by force (a religion full of dishonesty, zihad, violence), but Hinduism is a Religion of Peace, Love, Non-violence and apology.
In the case of Mohammad, how a ‘Nabi” (Prophet) can make 11 or 13 marriage in a single life. Was he Crazy. At age 25, Muhammad wed his wealthy employer, the 40-year-old merchant Khadija. After death of Khadija the story was going on and he made 11 relation more. Strange…
[ # ^ Sahih al-Bukhari, 1:5:268: Narrated Qatada: Anas bin Malik said, “The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number.”]
well peace & blessings of Eeshwar b on u brother,
At the outset, I will say I respect the Hindus a lot & let there b no doubt about that. But the way u talk seems 2 show how ignorant u r of your own religion. About wives, how many did Shri (yes, Shri) Krishna have? 16108 (The Bhaktirasāmṛtasindhu of Rūpa Gosvāmin, p155). As per “your” definition, how much “crazy” or “strange” was he? About violence, who uses Mahabharat as a religious scripture? & for your info, it contains many more verses about violence than any other religion (at least Islam, for sure)
@Muhammad Aasim Shamim:
You need to understand one thing.. In Hinduism, krishna is god. He manifest in every single atom. Every thing belongs to him. i hope u got the point..
But in your case muhammad is a man with flesh( not god). He wrote in quran that men are allowed to have 4 wives, but when people started questioning on his wives, he said, i am prophet, i am allowed to have more.. He justifies his words, by himself. How is this acceptable..
you can worship a rapist its your wish…
you dont have any written script for your religion thats why you investigate other religion text … samefull…. Kindly give me the interpretation of Quran for man kind.. I think you will surely adopt Hinduism or other religion
have you all ever read the quran? instead of just goofing off, do some research!
the very first surah of quran (Surah ) –
“In the name of God, the Entirely Merciful, the Especially Merciful.
All praise and thanks is for to God, [The] Creator, Owner, Sustainer of the Worlds.
The Entirely Merciful, The Especially Merciful.
Owner of the Day of Recompense.
You alone do we worship and You alone we seek for help.
Guide us to the Straight Path.
The path of those whom Your blessings are upon, not of those who You have cursed nor of those who have gone astray.”
Muslims in today’s world have gone astray… that is another story …you can’t criticise Islam for that. (you will be sorry for what u said) Just for ur info… I am a Muslim. 😛
So how is that different from what hinduism says?
hamza ali,
there are many people in this world who speak ill about ur prophet and he deserves it. what can u do? u cannot do anything. you are just like a barking dog nothing else. U do not have the daring to cut anyone.
one day u will come back again to hinduism which is the religion of ur forefathers
Hinduism is all about Quality of Human Nature not Quantity of Fools and Cowards..
Bad troll is bad.
Mr.Cardoza what do you know about hinduism if i am not wrong you are from Europe, have you heard about lufthansa airlines As a whole, the word “Lufthansa” is made up of two words: ‘Lupth’ and ‘Hansa’ which are two Sansrkit words meaning disappearing swan or a crane (bird). and algorithmic language which is used for operating computer it uses sanskrit which belong to hiduism.
even though hindus themselves dont know hinduism the people outside india equally dont understand hinduism actually even the all eastern beliefs they look at these same as they look at abrahamic beliefs
Hinduism is all about Quality of Human Nature not Quantity of Fools and Cowards..
Your human nature … we all can very well see! 😛 😛
Cardoza, you are the joke and all that you have written is a load of bull..and you cant differentiate between ad and bc!
sorry, but go to hell, you…
@cardoza,
You’re a moron. I googled and found out that Islam is the fastest dying religion
in the world. Hinduism, on the other hand, is expanding into the west.
Christianity is dying in Europe.
According to Al-Jazeera, Islam is the fastest dying faith.
i think u people belonging to abrahamic group have made god as a minister sitting in his office and only ur religious agents (- mohammad , jesus christ ) are secretaries so only the people can meet HIM through these agents, what a shame u have made GOD DEPENDENT ON THESE AGENTS…..
A virgin girl gives birth to a child and a dead man comes back to life three days after his death. Isn’t it a joke Mr. Cardoza ????
The one stupid who is speaking against hindutva let me tell you one thing clearly that We DONT need ans stupid conclusions from the stupid musalmans.
And one more thing…
Dont dare to underistimate hindus
you Islamik Joker…
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So, then why are so many Churches empty in EU and USA and become Discotheks in Holland or even HINDUTEMPLE (!) in US?! Explain this you evangelical …………….!
sorry.. not 4000BC. 4000AD.
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Though not a Hindu fanatic, not even a believing Hindu, I must say that this Cardoza must really be a joke. Zakir Naik wouldn’t be able to beat him. Hinduism would not exist in 4000 BC ..no, 400 AD, it’s a joke repeated ad nausim….
Mr. Naik, make way for this guy. He is boosting your religion even without misinterpretations and lies about your holy book.
though u may say any thing but being a hindu its my duty to tell you “May God bless you and lead you towards the right part of knowledge”
you should feel sorry for every thing you written here.
@cardoza :
I am not laughing at you,either this world id fill full of idiots like you, Might you never have knowledge about Hindusiam what it’s really it’s not like islam they show fear to the people and ask them to convert its not like Christians shows money to poor and ask them to come church, Its all above the religion its all above all this a small example: Islam says we are best ,Christians says we are best but Hindusiam never said this we said all are equal we all sons of GOD,i would like to you advice because we are expert to give advice always free for fool people like you just come Hindustan and see what you miss.
for your knowledege i would like to tell Mr. ford son just convert into Hindusiam
i have long list people like this some big and famous steve jobs i think you know
him, and we never say to anathor accept Hindusiam so mr fool i realy apperucated
your effort and for you kind information recently horward reaserching about hindusam
that how can a religion is accepted by all over the world without force without a book.
if you have any doubt about Hindusiam lets mail me i ll tell you what we are.
also the person who shows finger to anathor 4 finger belongs to him:
Welcome TO Hindustan!
Who told you that Islam asks its followers to convert to Islam?? Half knowledge is a dangerous thing! You fools just surf the net to read articles written by gossip mongers and say bad things about Islam! Who told you that Christians have to show money to the poor to convert them?? You know nothing about Hinduism … leave alone Christianity and Islam … We (Muslims) are not allowed to convert others by force and disrespect others … we are only allowed to preach Islam through peace! Does Hinduism allow to tell lies and disrespect other religions… which you did just now??? Just end your evil ways of doing things ! 🙁
Yes we all know how you treat others. Speaking of Christians and Muslims, in the birth place of Christianity, the Middle East, Middle Eastern Christian communities are being wiped out by Muslims trying to enforce a Sharia state where minorities are second class dhimmis. Raymond Ibrahim is an Egyptian Coptic Christian who documents the destruction of Christian communities in the Middle East by Muslims http://www.raymondibrahim.com
Considering the obnoxious Christians and Muslims who come to this site demonizing like we see above Hinduism, the two deserve each other in the Middle East.
Hindus so that you are well aware, not only in the Middle East but also in Europe Christians are under attack by Muslims http://www.israelhayom.com/site/newsletter_opinion.php?id=4589
Christianity was already waning due to secularism with fewer and fewer younger Christian Europeans identifying as Christian or any faith, but with the influx of millions of Muslims into Europe the annihilation of Christianity in Europe accelerated exponentially.
and it doesn’t matter if who’s converting to which religion … what matters is which religion is true… and your so called Hinduism is not 1 religion … there are thousands of different types … but all with the LAME LABEL ‘HINDUISM’! it also has many sects and casts (now that’s mentioned in the Vedas for sure!) Islam has no casts! all humans are ‘EXACTLY’ equal!
Religions have become divided and broken into segments. These divisions have caused people to lose the sense of unity and brotherhood, also fighting over differences.
The Quran is clear on sects:
‘As for those who divide their religion and break up into sects, thou hast no part in them in the least: their affair is with Allah: He will in the end tell them the truth of all that they did.’ Quran: 6:159
‘But people have cut off their affair (of unity), between them, into sects: each party rejoices in that which is with itself. But leave them in their confused ignorance for a time.’ Quran: 23:53-54
My ummah will be divided into seventy three sects. All of them will be in the Fire except one [Saheeh Muslim, no.976]
u need to learn more..
BTW can you tell me the logic and rationality behind the one true religion ‘s book Sura Al-bakr 2:66 onwards where one can find out who is a murderer by hitting the dead body with meat.
then we can see how much you know of the one true religion.
Wrong all humans are not equal in Islam. Muslims do NOT treat non-Muslims as equal. They are treated as second class dhimmi under laws that are no better than Jim Crow laws that were once there in the United states. Dhimmitude is explained here http://www.jihadwatch.org/why-jihad-watch.html
As Ankur pointed out, Islam is not one sect or caster either. There are multiple sects the biggest two are Sunni and Shia who have been slaughtering each other since day one to today. The whole war in Syria is a Islamic sectarian war between Sunnis and Shia.
What makes you think the caste system advocates inequality bro?
cardoza
Do you know who is your father? (LOL)
Dear Shri Agniveer ji,
Pranam,
Dhanyavad for your’s brilliant article and thoughtful rebuttals.
Thanks Agniveerji,
I was waiting for the rebuttal, u have fulfilled your promise of doing so
@Abhinav
friend,
exactly what i want to say,
you have said
thank you
god bless all
the truth is with us as we glorify the vedas
hari aum
Brilliant rebuttal Agniveer Ji
I think we must put all rebuttals to jihadi claims on vedic scriptures in the comments section of this article
Allah in the Vedas: Treachery of Dr. Zakir Naik by Dr. Radhasyam Brahmchari
http://www.faithfreedom.org/articles/op-ed/allah-in-the-vedas-treachery-of-dr-zakir-naik/
Muhammad in the Vedas: Asinine arguments of Dr Zakir Naik
http://www.faithfreedom.org/articles/op-ed/muhammad-in-the-vedas-asinine-arguments-of-dr-zakir-naik/
Guys keep adding scholarly references that you have come across
Amazing Science : Swami Sada Shiva Tirtha
http://www.spiritual-teachers.com/AmazingScience.htm
This is great resource! Lets have useful links compiled here for benefit of all. Not necessarily on Science in vedas or history but also on our culture in general. I fear that many Muslims are brainwashed since early childhood to consider non-Muslims and especially Hindus as most wretched people with everything wrong in them, especially in Pakistan.
I recall that during very early childhood I was told that all who have beards are actually Sadhu Baba who kidnap young children. I used to be scared of them and hate them as a small child. Thankfully the phase ended as I grew up. But imagine a population that remains a kid even at age of 20, 30, 60, 80 and till end of life, and keeps hating others simply because this was what was ingrained the deepest and earliest in them.
I believe that intellectual level mingling with Kafirs that happen with Muslims on this site, even if they hate us, would ensure that soon they would realize that being Kafir is not that bad as they have been taught. The best thing about these intellectual debates is that it gives them an opportunity to interact with a Kafir mind directly instead of relying on ghost stories taught to them.
Agniveer Ji
very well said indeed!
AGNIVEERJI EXCELLENT ARTICLE FULL OF WIT AND WISDOM.
OUR BROTHER’S WILL DEFINITELY GIVE THIS WEBSITE LINK TO OTHER BLOGS AND WEBSITE AND COUNTER JIHADI PROPAGANDA..
Who told you Muslim children are brainwashed?? I know some Muslims are there who have gone astray and are leading many others to the wrong path … but that doesn’t mean every Muslim is like that … and if all Muslims start following Islam … they will be the greatest Human beings! You know very less about Islam … first go and learn about it! Now i don’t want to criticize your religion! But one thing you keep in mind, just because of some Muslims , you can’t criticise all Muslims, and Islam (aapka religion ‘Hinduism’ iski shobha deta hai kya?? ) So sad that so many of our Hindu brothers have gone astray! 🙁 🙁 🙁
Admirable that you continue to fight for your religion. That is good. You would make a good Hindu.
Please tell me what Islam says that Hinduism doesn’t. Thanks
The so called jihadi scientists know all these facts very well. But, they wantedly attempt to mis guide the world by propogating false picture of Hisduism, just to promote and expand their dirt with which they are associated.
While issuing rebuttals to those false claims, we need to educate and prepare all our youth to resist such false claims every where in their daily life.
Since, it is not possible under the “secular Indian educational system” we need to organise dharma satsangs (to counter madarasa education / jihadi propoganda) all over to fulfill this job. Otherwise the madarasas may produce more and more asuras in future.
आपके इस लेख को पढने के बाद मुझे पंडित मंसाराम की “पौराणिक पोल प्रकाश ” याद आ गयी , अंतर सिर्फ इतना है वहां उन्होंने पौराणिको के गलत अनुवाद की धज्जियाँ उडाई थी और यहाँ आप यही काम यवनों के साथ कर रहे है
वन्दे वेद मातरम !
One of the excellent book that describes the scientific content in Vedas is ” Science in Vedas” written by the late V.N.Shastri, who headed the research wing of Vedas set up by Sarvadeshik Arya pratinidhi sabha, New Delhi. The book was first published in 1970 and its reprint came in 1990. What Vedas say on the subjects like Mathematics, Psychology,Physics, Chemistry, Astronomy, Medical sciences, etc has been vividly brought out with telling effect by quoting the relevant Mantras with meaning. The book would be an effective rebuttal to those Jihadi critics who are carrying an incessant tirade against Vedas in all internet and public forums like Orkut etc.
It is requested that Agniveerji would bring out the relevant portions of this book in order to silence the critics.
Namaste Vasudevaji
Do you have a copy? It would be useful to put entire book online.
Dhanyavad
Admin
Namaste
The book is available in Sarvadeshik Arya pratinidhi sabha, Delhi and also at M/S govindaram Hasanand. In case they do not have a copy i will send one copy to you to the address you mention.
pl reply
Dhanyavad.
9.11.2010
Bangalore Vasudevarao.
We shall mail you separately. Dhanyavad
Hinduism is the oldest religion and the best religion.!
Sanatan Dharma rox.!
dont forget. it also a stupid religion
Its the true religion of peace, go and check its the oldest religion in the world 5000BC and still existing. we know our god, atleast we are proud that we are not part and parcel of fake prophets and cult religion. Do you know who’s your god ? the unseen idiotic god.
yar our religion doesen’t teaches us this thing… even though this cardoza is wrong but you should reply him in a well mannered tone
Also, he’s trolling you. The more attention you give him the more he’ll thrive. Ignore him.
Whatever it be… it doesen’t teaches us hatred against others.. and we love our religion and are proud of it
Another common reference used says that the Sun is 800,000 miles away and the Moon is 2,200,000 miles away (apparently stated in the Vishnu Purana). Is this a good translation? I want this to be explained, but can it be?
Another on, this time supposedly from the Markandeya Purana, says that the surface area of the earth is 4 billion square miles (actual surface area is about 196,939,900 square miles). The yojana, which these measurements would be stated in, has changed in size over the years, changing from as little as 5 to as much as 10 miles long. If converted into “older” yojanas, the estimated size is now 2 billion square miles. Still 10 times too large!! Does anyone know if these are accurate quotes of these Puranas?
@Shanti Om
This article in the Journal of Cosmology by Dr. Subhash Kak, Head, Department of Computer Science of Oklahoma State University gives an idea of the correct conversion tables to be used
http://journalofcosmology.com/QuantumConsciousness100.html
Kindly note that the article per se deals with Consciousness !
Dr. Subhash kak is known for many things including his proposed resolution of the twin paradox 🙂
Here’s another masterpiece scriptural evidence based analysis of Garbha Upanishad (Embroyology)
http://www.ece.lsu.edu/kak/GarbhaUpanishad.pdf
Enjoy!
@Indian Agnostic
Thank you very much for the links! They’re very helpful! But unfortunately knowing the distance of a yojana does not explain how the moon could be farther away than the sun! We certainly don’t believe this to be the case now!!
@Om Shanti Om
would it be possible for you to quote from where you got that info?
The articles which i shared give references to the facts ..that of Earth’s diameter, speed of light and also the proportion of 108 in terms of dimensioning the earth , moon and sun.
When the Upanishads and Vedic expositions state these facts ..any counter facts observed in any other later scriptures has to rejected.This the first time i have seen such an objection (moon farther than the sun) to be honest ..though i must admit that i don’t hold puranas in high esteem
if you provide the reference, i may try to help on this account
Dhanayavad
Yes, I see that now. I hadn’t read far enough, I apologize. The article I found that assertion in does not give a reference as to which scripture it addresses, but here is the link: http://asimiqbal2nd.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/errors-hinduism.pdf
@Shanti Om
I would suggest that when you look at IIslamist Propagandists arguments refuting Hinduism, look carefully at the references they provide and also the translator they have gone with..in most cases either or both are suspect.
If you cared to read the Garbha Upanishad text and compare it to the childish (and awfully wrong) embryology suggested in the Quran..you’d know that their criticism of our great heritage stems from a deep inferiority complex ..they know what they have left is precious and what they have got is precious little 🙁
So they try to employ any deceitful trick to malign the vedas and hinduism ..good luck with next dawagandist by the way
asato ma sadgamaya
Actually the model presented in one of the books is completely different from the world we have. It has a place called bhatarwarsh and massive mountains, 5 circular concentric islands & oceans.
So Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada says it may not be THIS world, but a parallel or mythological universe or something like that. Because there the size of a mountain in the middle of jambudweep is twice the size of the sun itself.
Ref:
http://books.google.co.in/books?id=9oi64rTVwNMC&pg=PA47&lpg=PA48&ots=0nUqy3a0h0&dq=vedas+surface+area+of+earth#v=onepage&q=vedas%20surface%20area%20of%20earth&f=false
Take for example verses like:
“Sun God has a chariot with 7 horses”
-> How many rays does the sunlight have? SEVEN. So it is a reference to the 7 rays of sunlight.
Rig Veda 10.85.9
“Moon decided to marry. Day and Night attended its wedding. And sun gifted his daughter “Sun ray” to Moon.”
-> This is a reference to the fact that moon does not have its own light, but light of the sun.
I dream some day Agniveer will thrash all those false Islamists and Christians like Revered Adi Sankaracharya and reestablishes Vedas, Upanishad in Aryabarta.
God bless you with all knowledge, discriminative power, splendid intellect so that those who diverted from Sanatan Dharma can come back to their root.
Namaste Sandeepji
Thanks for your blessings. But we request that you not draw any comparisons with Adi Shankaracharya who was perhaps among the greatest scholars world has ever produced. He is a role model for us. Rishis and Sages of our culture have already done the great work. Our task is limited to simply propagating the treasure that they have gifted to our extent possible. In modern parlance, we are simply marketing agents but these great legends are the factories that created the goods we market.
They sacrificed a lot to gift us this treasure and we only pray to ishwar that we are able to repay their Rishi Rin.
Respected Agniveer jee,
I came across a site which has a lot of informations regarding many aspects of Sanatan dharm/Hinduism. The link is as written below:
http://www.hinduwisdom.info
OM Shantihi – 3
Thank you Agniveer ji.
Appreciate your work.
Great work Agniveer….
PLEASE STUDY WELL ABOUT A THING BEFORE CRITICISING .
VEDAS ARE NOT IN THEIR ACTUAL FORM AS WRITTEN BY THEIR ORIGINAL AUTHORS.THE FOLLOWERS EDIT IT ACCORDING TO THEIR WILL.
SO WE SHOULD HAVE TO EXTRACT THE ACTUAL TREASURE FROM IT
You are misinformed. Vedas are available in exactly same format as in inception of civilization.
Please refer http://agniveer.com/2697/why-vedas-cannot-be-changed/
Admin
@BHASKERDEV
Mr. Muslim brother, can you people stop hiding behind hindu names?, y cannot you openly reply with your true name?
Vedas are not Quran that contain many ABROGATED verses, so I think you should study well before criticizing anyone.
excellent article, this one was needed, since Jihadis and Naik claim Vedas to have scientific errors, now we can circulate this article and put a full stop to their dirty speech full of lies.
thanks dear brother Agniveer ji, may Ishwar continue to bless you with His knowledge like this, and as usual, I will continue to propagate this article as well, it must reach our hindu brothers/sisters as well as people who consider Vedas erraneous.
Very well said…
Today when i find any hindu heart broke due to this jihadi information i only give them http://www.agniveer.com..
I just tell them visit here and read the reality of world…
and this is how hindus are gaining their courage back 🙂
god bless AGNIVEER JI for great work…
HARI ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ !!
Aye, i agree with both of you. Agniveer is a flag barrier of hindus who wants to get enlightened. He is surely doing a great work for humanity. Agniveer has already started creating a huge impact on people who are seeking truth. He is surely a next big thing for us.
Hinduo ko fir se sar utha ke jeena seekha raha hai mera bhai ‘Agniveer’.
Roger, why don’t you contact Agniveer for this cause
great job indeed
by god.. hila kar rakh dia ..aaj.. itne samay baad.. agniveer ji.. main aapsko bahaut samay se pad raha hu.. main sirf or sirf isilltopic.. science wala jo hain ki wajah se vedic culture ko chaha..or pasand kia.. while i was athiest normal..routine n behave like todays boys.. but.. 2 saal se change aaya .. bahaut…main aisi hi chizei ki talash main rehta hu..or apka bahaut bahaut dhanya waad deta hu.. aisi pramanikta ke sah pesh kiye lekh ki..
maine sab pada hai quran ka science bible ki imagination.. unke reference se.. or jo bhi in dono religion main kuch thik hain uska mool vediuc culture hi paya last main.. ussei judi philosophy vedic hi hai..
bas islamio ki taalim khauf waali hain bhasha tak sakht kathore hain aise logo ki mansikta unke charitra main hi dikh jati hain.. WO LOG VEERLE HI HAIN jo inse bache or unmei sabse upar main.. APJ ABDUL KALAM ko manta hu..
agniveer ji aap aise hi tathya rakhte jaaiye aapke pramaan hain koi kalpna nahi hain.. ye baat sabse achhi lagi.. aap rituals pe thoda or prakash de jaise wo pehra jaha aap namaskar se leker bangles tak ka scintific hona bata rahei thei.. mujhe kaiyo ka to pata hain.. detail explanation par kuch nayei padnei ko miley. ishwar aapko bal de..
pranam agniveer ji..
Agniveer Ji,
Good work Keep it Up.
Regardind Science in Vedas i would refer you to this compilation by jounalist Salil Gwali the link is What is India – http://www.slideshare.net/sgewali2000/wik-4904972.
Further autobiography of Yogi by Swami Paramhansa Yogaganand highh lights many scietific aspects discovered by our Rishis. – it is available online at http://www.crystalclarity.com/yogananda/.
Further a tribute to hinduisn by NRI Indian Sushma londhe – http://www.hinduwidom.com.
Further Indian Institute of Scientific Hreritage is doing wonderful work to bring into limelight the works of all rishis/vedic scholars/ ancient sanskrit manuscript – http://www.iish.Org.
Its truly said Satyameva jayate
Agniveer Ji I would like to add following wrt to Cow from Vedas a Divine Light – part II by swami Ramswarup Ji :-
Atharvaveda Mantra 1/16/4 states that anybody who kills cow, horse on any innocent person must be punished by the king. Yajurveda mantra 13/47, 48,49 state that the animals which are beneficial and faithful to the human beings must not be killed but nursed well. All the mantras especially state to protect cow and its calf because cow is always beneficial for providing milk. cow dung. urine. Cows exhalation kills many germs in the atmosphere etc. But the animals which are harmful to agriculture , they may be killed. However , consumption of their flesh etc is prohibited.
Atharvaveda Mantra 3/13/7 states that he who takes the milk of cow remains away from diseases, is well built, becomes the purest and enlightened cows milk provides us with nutrition and makes us just and helps us to control the senses, perceptions and mind to use the same always in pious deeds. In vedas God has ordered not to kill Cow and other animals which gives milks or otherwise beneficial to human beings. Their Killing shall be harmful to nation as well as world.
Further Cow is the first creation of God always when asexual creation takes place, as it is the necessity of human beings in the asexual creation to live on.
Lot of researches pertaining to History of indian Science is http://www.indianscience.org/.
hi gr8 article…..
there is i think only 1 person in islam to achive glory in 20 century……for india….he is APJ ABDUL KALAM and he is just known as islam but from heartly he is hindu…….
but unfortunately our corrupt system…no more longer as president…
Agniveer , u have a better translation of vedas, where do i get it online..please reply
@Arshad : http://aryasamajjamnagar.org/
Namste Agniveer ji,
I am following this site for almost one year and read extensively through the articles. I feel that though your work is extensive and requres a great deal of dedication and zeal to keep momentum unhindered.
Now I always dreamt of making our country free from Abrahmic faiths and for this end i want to join your team or what so ever in small way i can contribute. Now there is one suggestion which may prove effective in countring jihadi threat. We should make cartoon films depicting Islamic aggression on India and circulating widely it on internet will help.
Dhanyavad
@neoritz,
Better you write for your contributions to the Agniveer team by going to ‘Contact’ button at the top of this page and sendng an email to them.
Dhanyavaad.
My beloved “AngiVeer” Radhey Krishna! – Namste AngnVeer !
You are REAL VEER of VEDIC CULTURE in Kali Yug—– I LOVE YOUR INTELLIGENCE, WILL POWER & all the columns you write!
My name is Jetha Lal but my family members and my friends call me in short – Jay.
I am proud of being HINDU a “Vedic Manav” of this INDIA’s place where now is Pakistan- son of INDIA.
Yes, I am from Pakistan and I have been reading your articles for the last 3 days that how they inspired me I can’t stop unless I read your complete all lines from your articles- very unique and genuine explanation ever I have found and you are really patriotic veer of India & very devoted to our Sanatana Dharma.
I was really looking for a person like you so now I found you, no matter you are hundreds of miles away from me but your words on internet make me feel you are with me.
Some times, I cry from the bottom of my heart that how our Vedic Dharma and entire art, knowledge, temples, scriptures were ruined by these invaders- Muslims who forcibly and excessively hurt our Matra -Bhumi – India on a huge ground. On the other hand, not only they destroyed our art and culture but also they learnt some portions of Vedas time to time from indigenous group of Brahma gyani who were hugely expanded from Bihar to ghandara, Iran, Mesopotamia (now Iraq) Arabia, Aisa Minor(Turkey), Egypt and Greece.
Mohammed mingled their own demonic verses with some verses of Vedas by corrupting words and by destroying Kaabala Shiv Temple to create a new branded religion –Islam is nothing but a copy-paste of Judaism and Christianity which both were assets of Vedic Culture. Thus, Judaism and Christianity back in time were also derived from Vedic Dharma, so all they have been extracted from Vedas.
I never believe in a Dharma which destroys another Dharma just for the name, sex, fame, lust for slaughtering and eating animals and attaining all mayas like Heaven & also leaving the same Evil messages publicly in the form of homemade Quran for his followers showing a false and mayavic dream of attaining JANAT. Wherein Mohammed told his followers that all worldly luxurious, Food, Sex, Alcohols & bodily comforts you have on this earth a person will be served in JANAT as well, if one who follows and believes in my message of Allah and rest who don’t follow will be sent to ever burning Hell, Can’t we understand that this is totally MAYAVIC and Unethical statement said by Allah of Mohammed. Speaker of these words in Quran can never ever be God who thinks like an inferior man. Even today living in democratic world of affairs, this statement is futile flux and is not applicable in modern time, then how one can fix this statement for Absolute Spiritual, Blissful, All Knowing and All-pervasive True Eshwara / God. It confirms Quran is only a book of Political agenda of social economic disorders which was made by a barbarian illiberal & uneducated man who was Mohammed.
For the Muslims, what about a UNIVERSAL KARMIC REACTION OF ONE HUMAN”S ACTION in present life which causes births upon births a cycle of death and birth is a science of Vedic Dharma which wasn’t provided by Mohammed in Quran, so Quran is no way a complete treatise that Mohammed did not give this knowledge to Muslims in fact, because Mohammed did not know that much deep gyan of Vedic Dharma and that’s why Dr. Zakir Naik is wandering in between herein and hereafter like Dr. Zakir Naik who is as selling a product of Islam as selling a product of any worldly matter. Through out of his whole speech, there is no any spirituality because false creatively Quran contains no significant of Spiritual knowledge then how Zakir Naik can be able and enable his fellow men to Grasp Spirituality. They know only name ROOH (Spirit) as in Quran which is separate from Allah is again false understanding of Atama(Rooh) & also Muslims consider a Rooh is like a Air which were blown at the time of Creation like Air or Wind of which Adam & Eve created. Understanding of Rooh is wrong in Islam/Quran. Rooh (Spirit) is actually a PART of God or Eshwara is not separate entity at any way from Eshwara. They can not explain it like Hinduism explains to the world over. Dr. Zakir Naik needs more births to understand this Atmanan Gaya. He is as foolish as mundane mind but does not possesses real sense of Spiritual Knowledge. Human is made of Maya at outer most layer that is Islam what in true sense that Human is Spirit from his inner most that is Hinduism(Sanata Dharma) & so Spirit is not distinct from God. Spirit is Himself God this is Eternal & imperishable that is Hinduism. But even then Hinduism knows Materialism (Mayas) as well much better than Muslims Scholars. God(Paramatma) He who conceals in your inner part of Spirit which can be realized in any of us whether Muslims or Christians or Hindus through real devotion and Meditative YoGa practices which will make any one realize experience of God. Zakir Naik proclaims based on Mohammed’s Quran that Muslims do not believe in Reincarnation. Dear Zakir Naikm, it is simply because of Mohammed did not provide an ATAMAN gYAN and KARAM Yoga to you and simply he only tauht you lustful thins like eatin animals and invading other lands by means of conquering and distribute looted wealth among them by killing innocents of other religious civilizations if one denies adopts Islam. So, all his act shows and evidences that he knew nothing about Spirituality of Real schiences of Eshwara.
When one asks question to a Muslim, why a person is poor and why another person is rich, why a person is suffered and another person is happy in this world, they simply say, it is a System of Allah that Allah at his wish, makes someone Poor and someone Rich in this world and Muslims says, we don’t know further about it because it has not been mentioned in our Quran and we know till that but a system of Allah. It seems Allah is so cruel that He who as per his own wish make someone poor and rich then how one is to be destined and justified on account of one’s Actions he did in his life. A person is poor and rich because of action he does and the fruits he enjoys and suffers even on the planed of Heaven, a person has to return towards Eathly planed after he lives couple of years in Heaven. Heaven is also a part of Maya. Only your pure devotion, love & ood Karams with realizing a Spiritual Bein within and without you Body will lead you to Liberation from this body and will have body of Spiritual for ever with the abode of Sri Krsna.
We Hindus, know very clearly & deeply, since, from the very beginning of Vedic Dharma, it has been mentioned in Vedas –Eternal Word of Eternal Bhagwan that’s why a person suffers and why a person enjoys on this mirtiyu planet & even it further explains, why a person takes births again and over again on this earth, are caused by one’s KARMAS (ACTIONS) This is as simple as 1+1= 2 or it is only 1 and rest are the multiplication of 1 like we all are the parts and parcels of 1 Supreme Personality of Godheads- Sri Krishna is simply KARAMIC YOE OF Vedic Culture. So that a person can balance his reactions of the actions he did in previous birth regardless what body he gets like dog, cat, lion, insects, trees, cow & Manav etc. if Manav again then it ensures that he has once again Great opportunity to realize this BLISSFUL DIVINE SPIRITUL BEING that is ADH SHAKTI – God / Eshwara. That is why, Karmic Process is a cause of all these births even the way we are made of bodily, natively and mannerly but you have still chance to improve your Vartaman karams that is in your hand to progress your next birth or so purely you will et rid of this body and will attain enlightenment to Spiritual Abode of od wherein you will not need to
so the System of Muslims’ Allah which their Allah could not explain the cause of poverty, rich, diseases, handicapped, bodily shape, intelligence, misery, success, failure which a person of any religion bears is a fact on this planet. You know why the reason Mohammed’s Allah could not explain it. Because it proves itself that Mohammed was himself maker of demonic verses of Quran and he did not know about this Karmic Science of Eshwara, that’s why no any DIVINE ENTITY involved in the establishment of Quran and the Quran is a corrupted form of eternal Vedas as a copy past from Vedas after Mohammed learnt verbally little bit ood verses from Brahamic People of Vedic Culture as he was also a Arabic Hindu before he was 40 years of age from Kuru-vansh over the passage of time, name corrupted and it became Kuresh or Quresh.
To be continued.
Thanks and best regards,
Jay Maheshwary.
so funny these pagans..
your religion is probably the fastest dying religion nowdays.
sorry not probably… fact. google it.
i never met one who convert to hinduism before. it’s just funny if its truly happens. haha..
in fact many people were leaving hinduism for islam, christianity, judaism and some became atheist coz they had no more faith on hinduism. hindus are decreasing in population.
perhaps in the next few century, there will be no more hindus.
perhaps in 4000AD, people will think hinduism is just a myth.=D
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@ cardoza
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Be careful bro, don’t post such comments. Remember – the blasphemy laws in pakistan. They hv death sentence for blasphemy…
dear AD,
the blasphemy law in pakistan is just a one sided law… these people have got the right to say anything against us but we cannot say anything against there religion
Thanks Agniveer ji for an enlightening article but I must say that the title is misleading because ,one one hand you have already proved that there are not any errors but the verses from Vedas have been mis-interpreted ,yet you write the title as “Scientifific errors in Hinduism” .
Plz either change the title or add a question mark to the title, my humble request.
@Medha : it just draws more attention ; do you agree 🙂
@ Aryavratasth:
Then in that case , you suffer from attention seeking disorder…
No offence meant, though.
@Medha : Thanks for the kind words.” I am suffering from attention seeking disorder” LOL
Attention; Tauqeer and Tanveer—– where are you? come in front of me I am from Pakistan & by ACTION I am Hindu, Sanatani Premi, Vedic Premit, Vedic Cultural Dharma but many arms of VEDAS as Mother Dura or Amba has under which Islam is a little part of it.
Sri Mad Bhagwad Geeta’s one verse defines whole Quran which I have understood now. I have read Quran- there is no ATAMIC
You know why——— very Simple. As I live in Pakistan, as time passes, first muslims hatred alin with my rown till my child hood to youth, I have seen muslims are following the Path of Dyana (Meditation), Yoga-Asana(Science of Yoga) as on Pakistan TV Chanel- Indus TV wherein Yogi Wajahat teaches these Meditative and Yoga asan Indian Sciences. But they are inheritably Indian Discoveries to which now muslims are acceptin and one day, Muslims eneral ahead will claim that this has been provided by so and so Hadith or Verse explains in QUran iven by our Mohammed prophet, So, remember now every thin is recorded, you have no chance to alte the true history as you have been doing in our Pakistan text books for students. You are now callin our India science Reki or Murakbaat.. You people have always a cheater and copier, or copy pesters. Please don’t brand our Vedic gyan with your scholarships in future. You took our place, Pak- Bangla, You destroyed our tempo our social unity &, not only converted thousands of Hindus by force into Muslims but you also altered the rea Tejo Mohalia Shiv’a Temple into Shrine of Shahjahan and Mumtaz as Taj Mahal and many other temples were also destroyed and converted into mosques at the time of Mughal Empires
Could you people tolerate any one Hindu in Mecca. You term first to be Muslim then a hindu can enter into Mecca is totally mono poly is not a sign of True Dharma like we have every kind of person can enter in Hari Dwara by chanting Hare- Krisna, Hare-Rama is authenticated Dharma which has not boundaries no terms and conditions no barriers, no veils no obstance to be hindu, even you can be hindu remaining a muslim, we don’t mind. But on the other side we have tolerated you people ruling all over India as Muslim Empire as Mughile Empires more than 3 centuries. Does your Islam possess such a tolerant way of Spirituality.
Can a Hindu like Zakir Naik deliver speech freely on Hinduism or Sanatan Dharma in Pakistan Karachi city owned by any personal channel, no never, you janoony fanatic people would destroy that hindu within a minute. Because your very creation of being muslims become by force (JABR), am I write or wrong, pls judge t your true will.
Since, Zakir Naik freely delivers speeches and practicing Islam on Peace TV is an alive example of India’s equality and compassionate, so it is just because of our VEDAS and KRISNA Gayan that our India is called Secular is basically a teaching of our Dharma directly Vedas are involved to let live peacefully and every one has equal right to believe is so natural in faiths. But you lowered possessed thinker, every time you see Sex in all ladies so what women in Islam instructed strictly to put viels over faces. Being hindu I experienced you here in Pakistan treated with every non muslims very strangely, you can not spread love and you can not love any other dharms’ people, this is your great mistake taught by your moahmmed prophet. As wherein I work in the office, they keep my drinking glass separate, my cup of tea, my food plate and they don’t eat food which I bring from my home. First I did not realize while I joined them in office because I considered them like me I used to eat foods they brough from their homes but I realized they never have any thing from my home made food, then I asked them why you are not eating my food they rplied becaue we are directed by our Mohammed Prophet not to eat any non muslims unless he becomes Muslims first. So I was astonished and very grieved and offended spiritually, mentally toruredn by their statements and since then I have decided not to eat even a single piece of food from their homes and I realized they are so blindly faith knowing people.
I have observed them during Juma Nimaz that they wash their body parts as wazoo but what I see then immediately they sit at table in eating food then I asked them why don’t you pray first to Allah and after nimaz you must eat lunch. They said, it does not make any difference to us. Then I realized they are so unkind people from inner side. I told them, what food that you are eating must be sacrificed first to Allah or God or Eshwara as whatever food, comfort or even any thing you get you start must be offered and sacrificed to Eshwara- this is the teaching of our Vedic Culture which is like as under:
Oh, Eshwara— the food which I am going to eat is being offered to you first becuae this food has actually been provided by you to us, please God accept it, so that it can be digest well. This is our dharma you can see if you live in India that is a little part of every food is said to be PARSADI.
All bad and good deeds are of one ETERNAL PARAMATAM or ESHWARA- ALL MATTERS, ENERGIES; SPACE & TIME are of one ETERNAL DIVINE ESHWARA
But I would say that everything including us what we see and what we don’t see in the universe and ouside of universe is all-pervasive- my Eternal Parampita Bhagwan, Eshwara, god, Elah, Amba, Durga Maa, Kali, Aka, Parvait, Ganga and so on eternal-everlasting.
Bad the you, good the you, how you conclude about Satan as your Quran says about Satan. I would discourse it later on as there is no Satan in whole of universe and outside of time and space. This is just a self satisfaction of Muslims to put one’s blame on Satan. Actuall is your ahinkaar, kaam, lob, moha, maya, antakaram all bad and good emotions are of your own enemy or Satan. There is only one God having all qualities, we can not escape from Eshwara any time any where any how.
I will discuss it later on but right now see below:
I have gone through on the topic of “Islam & Rebirth” which my beloved Angveer started whom I love & also I love Arya are my soul mate one who are continuous Eshwara conditioned souls.
Unfortunately, I could not have chance to write my comments at the end of that topic of Islam & Rebirth to reply to Tauqeer & Tanveer, because there was no option provided at the end of their aritcles. So I am wriin
Practically, I can explain which happened to me in Pakistan through out my life & I have been experience by Islamic filthiness & it has been my experience what the teaching of Islam is, under which I have been victimized by these animal-eater Muslims(Janver Khore) which Mohammed publicly announced to every Muslim to slaht animal in the name of ALLAH and now it is righteous and can be eaten is really terrible education provided by sex maniac prophet.
I was convinced several times by office mate Muslims, Muslim neighbors & Muslims friends. I always wander, no matter how a Muslim is educated and sophisticated whether Doctor or Enineer, but ultimately, he will emphasize you to adopt Islam because he has been taught by Moahmed will attain JANAT if one muslim makes another Muslim. So I wander, spreading Islam is like a work of Vampire like they always have the desire to bite another normal human to make him Wampire, so no difference in the notion of a Vampire Nation and a Muslim Nation.
I appeal to all Muslims’ Umma, please note that converting or making more and more Muslims by your avarious, sensuous gratification and lustful tricks for attaining JANAT which I experienced many times that all Moulas forcing every non muslims to adopt is actually not the solution of a good societies.
You can make good societies without making any human a Muslim also- why don’t you work like that. Why necessary first to be Muslim is not a political party here we are to know DIVINE & DIVINE ENTITY who has no concerned with any particular group or sect like you have theory. Be broad-minded not narrowed and don’t make your Quran narrowed in the eyes of other people. Now people know all deeds of Muslims’ History which got shape within 1400 years. Islam has ripen to its peak point to be vanished from this Earth are still some of time has remained has become global village. All reports are mentioned on the internet for their previous and existing priests or khalifas, sahabas, messenders or hazis or rasools or prophets, how they hurt this whole earth by their demonic SWARD-THEORY. This is note the time of Raja Dahir, you can escape by telling lie that by the order of Raja Dahir, 8 ships were looted by the people of Raja Dahir, but they were all pirates of that time used to loot any one. Their work was only to loot any one even many hindus wee looted by them whoever wee on ther their roots. Invadin India through Sinh had been a planning since the time of Mohammed initially and then took shape at the time of Caliphate of Abu Bakr, then
Omer, Usman and finally Ali all had one planning to spread Islam to West and to East as well. So not they invaded India but they invaded all Christians countries like Spain, Egypt, Turkey, and to wards Eath, Iran, Afhanistan, & then Sindh. Don’t ie us an excuse of ships were looted by Raja Dahir has no reality in it.
Because you people have no sense of Meditation, Karam Yoga, that’w why you all muslims are wanderering here and there all over the workd the hunt of media. Improve your deeds
muslims friendsriend, even some times I am traveling in buses, I met muslims and I am usually asked who you are, I replied I am Hindu, quickly they start to explain me you worship Idols and what you are doin is not ood ultimately and so pleae adopt Islam and Islam is very good religion, Mohammed is the last prophet of one Allah, don’t worship many Gods. I tell them, why do you need to explain it to me because I know already as every thing you tell has already been there in my Vedic Religion and every thing you tell some of them are also wrong notions based on wrong assumption of your prophets. The why one should convert to another, is senseless. I told them I don’t go after temporarily pleasure of JANAT is actually not a final destination you Muslims wrongly think. I told him as under:
A Muslim does not deserve the right of living on this earth because he does not reserve the rights of Animals which is publicly instructed muslims as rule to slaughter animals is really very miserable act of Quran. I told them, simply is it your religion, I have mor things to define but I know you all will finally claim to murder me.
A Muslim dos not deserve to pray his so called ALLAH which was actually Mother goddess named as Ela which was corrupted by lustful Maha-mad( Mohammed) from Ela to Allah. You Muslims actually have been worshiping our Vedic Mother-god Ela- Aka- Amba all the names of Sanskrit based from the time KAABALA(Actual Shiva Temple) created by the Group of Brahama Gyani people indigenous people from India in Arabia long before Isaac and Moses who learnt Torah & Zaboor from Brahama Gyani group of people whih later on this workd shrank to one individual person as Abrahama
To be continued.
Jay Sri Krisna!
Best regards,
Jay maheshwary..
JAI SHREE RAM AGNIVEER JI
AAP BHARAT MATA KE MAHAN SAPUT HAI JO BHARAT MATA KI SEVA KR RHE HAIN…..LOGON KO SANATAN DHARMA SE AVGAT KRA RHE HAIN AUR LOGON MEIN JO SANATAN DHARAM KE PRATI BHRANTIYA FAILAYI GYI UNKO DOOR KRNE KA AAP EK BAHUT HI BADIYA KARYAA KR RHE HAIN…….ISHWAR AAP KO AUR BAL DE IS KARYA KO KRNE KE LIYE………
JAI SHREE RAM
where did the eternal matter come from??
why there should be any eternal matter??
where did the iswar n souls came from?? who made them??
what is the source of energy for iswar??
will he ever take rest??
wont he be bored with the same eternal job??
Namaste fuser
1. Eternal matter must also be beginningless. So it has to be there always.
2. There is no further cause to the ultimate cause.
3. Beginningless entities dont need creators. Who creates energy?
4. Energy or capacity of Eeshvar is His nature (Swabhaav) which is inbuilt in Him just like hotness in fire.
5. No, rest is needed for the tired ones. Eeshvar does not get tired.
6. Nobody gets bored with his own nature, like you dont get bored with your consciousness, do you?
best regards
Dear Brothers- AGNIVEER AND ARYA, Namste!
I have one question for the Muslims Umma.
If as per Quran or Zakir Naik, if every thing (all matter, energy, time & space or whole Universe is separate from God which simply means as per Quran all of them are distinct or just showing an ownership or proprietorship of all matters or you can say they are not pantheistic just they all belong to Allah or Eshwara or God. I think I have rightly understood it from Quran as explained by Zakkir Bhai, if not then a Muslim can correct me.
Now question arises in my mind, if above is right, then where from Allah or Eshwara or God brought or took or created all of above Mayas or Matters, I mean if all matters are different and separate from Allah then from which source initially, from which place or from which raw material did Allah or Eshwara or God brought them into creation which is now viewed as UNIVERSE by humans?
Accordion to science all matter, energy, time and space or all universes we observe and don’t observe were all together created from a single point which was far smaller than an atom even. This theory is called Big Bang, so the end of this Universe will either be Big Crunch or Big Rib that now every one knows, Right.
So, please answer my above question logically just not by faith and blindly.
Wherein, my findings as per Vedic Dharma, even all observable or non observable mayas / matters / times are also ETERNAL / SANATANA with no beginning and no ending like ESHWARA / ALLAH. What we see and feel in and out of time and space are all EXPANSIONS OF ESHWARA / ALLAH / GOD as Virtual Realities but not Actual Realities that billions upon billions times, this matter of Universes has crossed eternal cycle of creations and destructions.
Jai Sri Ram- Jai Sri Krsna- OM- peace, peace, peace!
Best regards,
Jay Maheshwary.
western religions jewisim, christianity and islam which believe in the theory of ” Resurrection” of dead physical body from grave yard and do not believe in karmas, rebirth and immortal souls were created by Rahu , the head who wanted to resurrect in its physical body but was seperated with body as ‘ketu” – Islam says ” kabba” means ” cube” black stone covered with black cloth in mecca- jewish people wear black cubes in leather form as belt on their head as well as in the wrist, while christianity if you open the ” cube” in all its six sides, you can see the ” cross ” hidden. if you look in to the ” cross” the vertical line is crossed on top of the ” head” portion by an horizontal line” The head is none but ” Rahu” . muslims go around Kabba in anti clockwise direction seven times as rahu-ketu in the axis of 7 signs rotating in anticlockwise direction. muslims ,jewish and christians languages aramic, Hebrew, arabic and urud are read and written in the back side reverse direction. there are more than 40 comparisions with rahu for western religions while ketu denotes estern religions like buddhism, jainism, sikhism , shamanism ect which believe in ” Rebirth” while vedic religions created by brahma believe in ” reincarnation ” theory which matches to human bodies kundalini theory of seven chakras and three nadis and shiva and sakthi . i write a detailed book about the creation of world religions. so the truth is only santana dharma is true path to salvation. Rahu and ketus are karmic graha which have influence in all religions since they are demon and serpent both in nature – influence of demon is with western and eastern religions by rahu ( western ) and ketu- less evil and soft ( estern ) but the serpent form the one which has wisdom, spirituality and reincarnation ect have influence with vedic religion. so other faiths must realise and follow only vedic religion to get salvation.
For complete information on how and why cow is so respected in Vedic culture, go to:
http://mgdas.com/
Also for more information on science in the vedas go to:
http://absolutetruth.in/
satyameb jayte. truth prevails. above all our vedic relegion is great. we should be proud of it. it has been prevailing for thousands of years. even today vedic relegion is one of most influencial relegion.
Dear Agniveer Ji,
Namaskar Sir.
Off the topic, i have a request. I want to study Vedas.. but i am not familiar with sanskrit and also, i have not found any good translation of the Vedas so far.
Also, i have been told by a few friends of mine that Vedas should be studied under some guidance only for correct understanding. Is it right?
Can you suggest a link for some authentic translation of the vedas from where i should study and any source, from which i can discuss and clear my doubts and queries about the same? I would be more than pleased if you can guide me in this matter..
Regards,
Dear Agniveer Ji,
I do not have words to appreciate you. You are “Sur” and Mr. Zakir Naik is “Asur” in “Samudra Manthan” like situation. All the evils of Islam are coming on surface and even Zakir does not know he is one of the doer. Truth always prevails. Time will invalidate all his false logic. He is just responsible of taking the poisonous elements of Islam on surface.
Dear Shri Agneevir Sir;
I am real jealous of your Knowledge on our Sanathan Dharma Assets, we feel real proud to see a person like you, i will recommend this site for my friends so that we will get to know more about our Culture and ethics of our Sanathan Dharma.
Om Shakthi !
rahul ji,
Instead of merely feeling proud it would be much better if you join hands with Team Agniveer for this Mission.
that’s true
i want to be like that
I am a first-time visitor to this site and am deeply impressed. Though born into a devout and orthodox Muslim family, I have always been always very interested in learning about other faiths and beliefs. I consider myself a life-long student of comparative religion and avidly read extensively on this. I also actively discuss this with like-minded people of other faiths. From all this, I have started believing that Hinduism is THE only hope for a peaceful world. My religion teaches and offers a great afterlife in jannat, but what does it do to make our present life better? I find it doesn’t contribute in any way to making our earth better. I for one firmly believe that we ought to be better people here and now rather than thinking of a mythical, imaginary and fantastic jannat. Congrats to Agniveer for exposing the various lies being spread against my Hindu brethren. And before I sign out, let me assure all that I am still a Muslim who prays 5 times a day, reads the Qur’aan daily and have done Hajj twice. But the truth cannot be denied, right?
Dear enigmania
Namaste
Congratulations for being a critique of your own belief which is one of the most difficult things to do. How does it matter whether you are Abdul or Aditya, you pray twice or five times? What matters is you love all and hate none. Praying good for all noble people irrespective of their religion and not praying hell for anyone just because he/she is not born in a religion is what makes us humans a family of different colours which are complementary but not contradictory. Welcome to the original home of all humans, Vedas.
Congrats..
Just one word bro, religions are made for men, and not the other way round.
@Enigmania:
We hold forth “Truth is one. But the paths to it are many”. This lays a foundation for universal brotherhood and peace on earth.
Welcome to agniveer.
PS: Beware of practitioners of “the religion of peace” who frequent this website and will call you out as a fake Muslim…just a Hindu claiming to be a Muslim…for a true Muslim needs to look nowhere beyond the Quran/Hadiths.
Brilliant article.
agniveer ji pranaam
I liked your logically argued deposition. I will use your arguement when argueing with any muslims. direct him to your website.
But like I said many times, there is no way a muslim can understand a logical arguement. They only understand MY language, whihc you mostly dont like.
Anyway, thanks once again
jai shri ram
If they indeed understand, kindly review yourself how many changed their ways after discussions with you? How many left worshipping Zakir Naik? etc If not, then understand that this approach does not yield concrete results. We hope you would use your passion for concrete result oriented actions which society demands desperately today. Blessings.
@agniveer ji yah i liked it muslims are the fanatics one, i once asked my friend whats ramadan he said ramadan is fasting and is good for health and science has proven it and i replies its same thing we do everyday, muslims in ramadan dont eeat in day but only at night and dont eat for the whole day and hindus eat only at day and dont eat anything at night, it is same just day and nights are reversed and they have a scientific logic backing it hahahahha and the halal meat is said to be pure coz when they cut the goat in that way there is no impure blood left so meat becomes pure re, well we do the same as well when we cut the goat we drain all the blood as well, and they said it is scientifically proven amazing they have scientfic logic as a back up for silly things and they condemn others pracitses hahaha need to grow up idiots
The only solution i find is WAR, we had enough lets give them the taste of there own jihad 80 %indian popultation is hindu and 10% is muslims we can win the war easily, we have to go to wars wid these fanatics for the ultimate peace/r
Agniveer,Thanks for posting this article and elaborating your point of view and also explaining Vedas. Of course, discussion is the best way to gain knowledge rather than taking sword in hands and killing each others.
I am a Muslim. I don’t know whom you refer as Jihadi. And also I can see some coments related to Islamic war. But my concept of Jehad states that Jehad is to fight against evil ( not against humans ) and I beleive that this is the true Islamic concept. Unfortunately the term Jehad is being misused and misused by Muslims mostly. In true Islamic teachings only defensive war is permitted. All offensive wars are unholy. So these were my short coments regrding Jehad
I also agree with Hassan Nisar ( in video ) that the best way is to identify your weeknesses and try to bring improvement rather than remaining in state of denial. And this applies to everybody.
And also I have gone through some of the translations of Vedas.”He is One and only One, Sustains entire universe, Omnipresent, Formless, All-Powerful, Perfect, Omniscient, Unborn, Eternal and supports us always.He alone should be worshipped.” (Yajurveda 40.8) I beleive this is what my religion also teaches me. I believe that all teh true religions originate from the same source. I have gone through the teachings ( not very deeply ) of Budha, Christ and Baba Guru Nanak ( May peace be upon all of them ) and find all of them preaching the same basic concepts of one eternal God to worship,love and peace. I am not sure how you guys look into it but I believe that Moses( pbuh ), Christ(pbuh), Krishan ( pbuh), Budha (pbuh ) and Muhammad ( pbuh ) were all prophets from God who preached the same message. If we start realizing it, earth will be heaven. Cow is more sacred for Hindus and pork is haram for Muslims but we can easily live with it accepting each others right to beleive in his/her religion if we start understanding that basics are the same.
@Noor:
Ok. Let us see all that lofty ideals put into action. Please work on the following AS YOUR FIRST PRIORITIES.
(a)Abolish death penalty for apostasy. Afterall, if you brother sister converted to say, Hinduism or Buddhism, by following the teachings of Krishna/Buddha they are also following the “prophets from God”, right?
(b)Let us have reciprocity in treatment of religious minorities. Just like how Islam/Christianity are freely propagatable in India, let Christians/Buddhists/Hindus/atheists have a free rein to propagate their belief systems in countries in majority-Muslim states.
If you work towards these two it will go a long way in reducing the problem of militant Islam.
Namaste Noor
Good to see such a sensible person like you here calling him/herself a Muslim. But unfortunately, not most of the Muslims will recognize you as Muslim. If I am correct, you belong to Ahmadi sect of Islam which is considered as Non Islamic by others.
May I know, do you believe in Sahih Hadith Bukhari and Muslim?
jesus, mohammed, moses are prophets. They are human beings with some divine knowledge. so all their religions are ” man made religions ” created by them. sanatana dharma is eternal and never created by anyone. lord krishna and rama are the avatars of lord vishnu himself who came down to earth to establish dharma in the earth. so their teachings are addressed to all human beings – say to all souls. when western relgiions do not believe eternal souls, karmas and rebirth and mosha the final salvation as given by lord krishna in his bagwad gita, how can you compare all religions are same and one.
@KalBhairav
(a) There is no death penalty for apostasy in Islam. If you are referring to the laws in some Islamic countries, I don’t agree with them. I won’t say they are in the light of Islamic laws. They are neither Islamic nor human. Similarly, if you say that everything that Hindu religious leadership has been following is totally in the light of the divine guidance, may be it will not be correct. Of course, to burn the innocent people alive in a train is not what Hindu religion preaches. I hope you will agree to it. But this has happened and many similar incidents as well. This does not mean Krishna preached terrorism or that Hinduism is about killing innocent people. I have gone through the extracts of Vedas as posted by Agniveer and I don’t think if one really goes through these teachings, then such a person will show any hatred towards others. But we have also seen that even in India people have gone to such an intolerant level that they even threatened team from a Muslim majority country to play a match on their soil. And also in the neighboring country we have seen similar behaviors towards Hindus.
Everybody has the right to choose his/her religion. If any Muslim accepts Hinduism or Buddhism it is his/her right. This is what my understanding of Islam.
(b) Yes, exactly. This is how it should be that everybody given the right to preach his/her religion irrespective of his/her faith.
Definitely, taking such steps (as you mentioned) we can move towards a society free of militancy. I wish we can achieve such a society. I wish and pray. No excuse for militancy in religion should be acceptable. The best jihad is to fight against the evil attributes within oneself.
sweetheart no one is asking what’s ur understanding of Islam.. we are talking about what great scholars says about islam…
my only question to you…
Q) Who are u and what will anyone gain with ur understanding of Islam?
make ur imams, Mullas, joker naik, understand ur way of understanding Islam if they accept it we will be very pleased…and thankful to put some thought to ur way of understanding religion…
Jihad is fight against fight of evil attributes and non muslims are all evils acc to islam…
i can’t explain u in much deep but other vedic scholars on this website will make u understand ur way of understanding islam better!!
Have fun!!
@Noor Ul Ein
Namaste Sister Noor,
first off I would like to thank you because there are good muslims out there like you who disagree with fanatics like Zakir Naik. As per Zakir Naik, if a muslim leaves islam, converts to another religion, and propagates his new religion and criticizes islam, that person should be killed. Naik also says, no matter how good we kafirs are, no matter how great noble deeds we kafirs do, even if one of us has ever rescued Naik from a falling cliff, regardless of all these noble deeds, WE WOULD ALL BURN IN HELL for eternity just because we do not believe the Quran to be the word of God nor believe Mohammad to be the last prophet.
I would like to thank you also for being respectful to Krishna, otherwise many fanatic muslims abuse and insult this great noble being. Krishna was not a prophet. In fact, we do not believe Ishwar sends prophets from time to time. Vedas were the first and final revelation and they are always given out at inception of human civilization. Krishna was just a great human being who was a Vedic follower and hence, a role model for us. Same is the case with shir Ram. Even many muslims like Arya Ashfagullah Khan are great role models for us.
Good that you condemn violence. We only hate those who are intolerant & have no respect for human lives. The activities of RSS, VHP are not as per hinduism – if you read history you will know that – none of the leaders of RSS (or that of ‘muslim league’ that created pakistan) were very religious at all. None of them ever went to jail for freedom struggle. Both these parties were faithful to the british empire (as declared by them). And ultimately it was a member of RSS that killed Mahatma Gandhi. They do not represent Hinduism or Islam.
But there is a problem – the idea of hating kafirs, doing jihad and killing non-muslims is probably not just something a few muslims do. It is a very MAINSTREAM concept of Islam. Quaran, hadiths & islamic teaching are FULL of these things. Every muslim knows that jews, christians & hindus are bad. Sometimes they may not say it directly – but they give reasons like babri masjid, kashmir etc etc and spend a great deal of time studying & spreading hate literature.
– There’s the concept of Gahzwa-e-hind
– Allah says ‘if I could make one more thing cumpulsory for muslims, it would be jihad’
– That no other activity can get somebody paradise like jihad
– That heaven is under the shade of swords. Etc etc.
People say 65% of the Quaran talks about kafirs. It is a extremely violent literature. And that is what is concerning.
Many muslims I know are good people. But people can be brainwashed easily by religion. It can make good people do bad things. I am sorry but I feel Islam is the religion of the devil. It is an EVIL religion according to me.
NARASIMHA KILLED HIRANYAKSHYAP, PARASURAMA KILLED KRTHAVIRYA,VARAHA KILLED HIRANYAKSHYAP, RAMA KILLED RAVANA, KRISHNA KILLED KAMSA, KALKI AVATAR YET TO COME NARASIMHA, RAMA, VARAHA, PARASURAMA, KALKI, KRISHNA, ALL ARE INCARNATIONS OF LORD VISHNU DONT COMPARE WITH UR GOD DONT BLUFF AND SHUT UP
rama krishna
NARASIMHA KILLED HIRANYAKSHYAP, PARASURAMA KILLD KARTHAVIRYA, VARAHA KILLED HIRANYAKSHA, RAMA KILLED RAVANA, KRISHNA KILLED KAMSA, KALKI AVATAR YET TO COME NARASIMHA, RAMA, VARAHA, RPARASURAMA, KRISHNA ALL ARE INCARNATIONS OF LORD VISHNU SO SHUT UP
“Of course, to burn the innocent people alive in a train is not what Hindu religion preaches.”
If you are referring to Gujarat, it was Muslims who set fire to a train of Hindu pilgrims including women and children so they would die horribly in fire. The Muslim mob prevented the Hindu train passengers from escaping the train compartments and prevented others from doing anything to stop the flames.
Everyone should read Princeton Professor Bernard Lewis “The Multiple Identities of the Middle East.” This Ivy League scholar on Islam and the Middle East writes about the punishment for apostasy and the lack of tolerance for other faiths by Islam.
@eligmania
(My religion teaches and offers a great afterlife in jannat, but what does it do to make our present life better?)
Brother, our religion not only teaches better for afterlife , but also indeed better for here also.even many opponents of islam ( including agniveer just refer his article” A genius Misunderstood” in that article he showed his desire to follow our prophet if he had lived in that time) praised islamic teachings.
I hope you know about sufferings ancient indians due to hindus , i mean caste discrimination , sati there are mnay , i know why Moolsankar took a protestentic approach ,just to stop conversions .
Plz ask agniveer ,Y he will not comewith an artice against sangh parivar who were responsible for communal riots agins Muslims and Christians. agniveer is biased always he tries point out muslims are bad and terrorists of course many muslims does not represent real islam , i agree, but what stopped aryans to go aganist sangh parivar.
just refer this link
http://www.theintellectual.info/religion/hinduism
u may find some good information .
So, the Sangh Parivar is the root causes of all miseries. What about Lashkar e Toiba, Hizbul Mujahideen, Deedar E Anjuman, Jamaat-ul-Mujahideen Bangladesh, Taliban, Al Qaeda, Hezbollah, Hamas, Fatah al Islam, Islamic Jihad, Abu Sayyaf Group, Harkat ul Mujahideen, Jemaah Islamiyah, Lashkar e Jhangvi, etc. etc. to name only a few of the important groups operating all around the globe.
He certainly was a genius but for a different reason, he managed to create a major religion centered around him out of his criminal Middle Eastern enterprise
http://schnellmann.org/Robert_Spencer_The_Truth_About_Muhammad.pdf
@sdc,
all those groups does not represent real islam ,i dnt understand y pple dnt request agniveer to come with an article against sangh parivar.
In the same breath, I do not understand as to why evangelists like Zakir Naik do not come out strongly against such groups, if they do not represent “real islam,” and on the contrary, they defend people like Osama. BTW, please do explain as to what “false islam” and what is “real islam.”
@ Shaik
Why do your focus not on these terrorist organisaion Lashkar e Toiba, Hizbul Mujahideen, Deedar E Anjuman, Jamaat-ul-Mujahideen Bangladesh, Taliban, Al Qaeda, Hezbollah, Hamas, Fatah al Islam, Islamic Jihad, Abu Sayyaf Group, Harkat ul Mujahideen, Jemaah Islamiyah, Lashkar e Jhangvi, etc. If you start to count there are lacs of people who have been victim of these terrorist group all over the world. All these are world famous Muslim terrorist organization. You are supporter of these and when any organization like Sangh Parivar pressure government to take action against such terrorist organization you start to condemn.
Yes Hinduism is grest!!!!!!!! There is no equality in it. The religion divides people in to upper and lower castes on the basis of birth…but not on basis of knowledge. How are hindus? . There is no hindus in indian..but only caste based politicians and parties. Its a curse for its people. 1st you people rectify your mistakes and question others.
@Khan:
Is your problem with the Hindu religion or with Indian politics or both?
The caste issue has been dealt with in detail elsewhere on this website. In summary, birth-based caste system is crap and to be discarded.
I can engage you further only if are simply not a hit-and-run Muslim (like so many on Agniveer) who cannot intellectually defend your religion. Such folks simply make an outlandish first statement and once rebutted are nowhere to be seen.
Let me know.
Namaste Khan
Agniveer’s top priority is to eradicate the caste-system. This inclusdes caste system in hindus , muslims(arzal,afzal,ansar also racim: arab, non-arab etc) and castesytem in christians(dalit,born,brahmin etc)
so stop attaching this south asian malaise to a particular religion.The hindus reformists from the bhakti period have been trying to eradicate this malaise and its on the decline .on the contrary, in muslim dominated regions like pakistan this sytem is getting worse with time.
Namaste Brother Indian Agnostic
I replied, please check.
It is mentioned in Rigveda mandal 7, sookt 55, mantra 7
सहस्रश्र्ङगो वर्षभो यः समुद्रादुदाचरत |
तेना सहस्येना वयं नि जनान सवापयामसि ||
The Sun who hath a thousand horns, who rises up from out the sea,-
By him the Strong and Mighty One we lull and make the people sleep.
See also the translation by Pandit Shri Ram Sharma
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_5bGai9kQUf0/Tcek5tDL3CI/AAAAAAAAABY/8WQwHhuaXZU/rig_7_55_7.gif
This is also repeated in Atharvaved 6:5:1
Also it is mentioned in Atharvaved 7:81:1
Forward and backward by their wondrous power move these
two youths (sun and moon), disporting, round the ocean.
One views all living things, and thou, the other, art born again
arranging times and seasons.
translation of Pandit Shri Ram
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_5bGai9kQUf0/TcexD-zK5BI/AAAAAAAAABs/j4m6uXjLPuc/s800/atharva_7_81_1.gif
Same is mentioned in Atharvaved 13:2:11
what do you say? there is no scientific mistake in vedas?
Namaste Slave
Get correct translation here http://www.aryasamajjamnagar.org/
Vajra salam brother,
I dont know hindi. that site is in hindi.
Brother Slave
When you dont know Hindi how could you find Hindi translation by Pandit Shri Ram and how could you know they have scientific errors at all?
I found it in Mushafiq sultan`s site. You should defend these verse. tell me what this verses really say/?
Jibrīl 😉
@Slave:
You have to copy paste from someone else’s site? That’s what Allah’s slaves do? copy paste? Is that why Quran has no original thought, it is just a mish-mash of the worst passages of the Old Testament and the New Testament?
defend your vedas mr.KalBhairav . tell me what these verses really say
Brother Slave
When you can blindly believe Mushafiq, the translators of Quran, the Quran itself, and Muhammad, what is stopping you from believing blindly in Agniveer?
Isn’t believing Muslims and disbelieving non Muslims blindly the sign of blind belief/disbelief?
What will happen if KalBhairav or me provide you with the translation? Will you accept it and denounce your current stand or are you going to run away like many others shouting the translations are wrong even without knowing Hindi or Sanskrit?
Vajra, I just wanna know meaning of these verses
Rigveda mandal 7, sookt 55, mantra 7
Atharvaved 6:5:1
Atharvaved 7:81:1
Atharvaved 13:2:11
just tell me what is the meaning of these verses.
can mr.agniveer help me to find out the real meaning?
@ Vajra: We can talk through emails on Vedas. Arya Musafir has my email id.
Brother Apolloreach
Sure, will do that
I just wanna know meaning of these verses
Rigveda mandal 7, sookt 55, mantra 7
Atharvaved 6:5:1
Atharvaved 7:81:1
Atharvaved 13:2:11
just tell me what is the meaning of these verses.
can mr.agniveer help me to find out the real meaning?
@ Slave Of Allah: My personal opinion about science in religious scriptures is that one can look for clues about science in a religious scripture but the exercise that some Muslims indulge in,by using Dr.Moore and Dr.Bucaille is pathetic. Some of you guys are trying to drive a round peg into a square hole. Scriptures have a definite end point, the last verse. But science is ever evolving. Having said that you have exposed your lack of knowledge of both Vedas and astronomy.
1) RiG Veda 7.55.7: This verse contains no direct reference to the sun, as you claim. But still if the bull in the verse does point to the Sun, it is only stating a universally stated cliche of sun rising from the ocean/ water body. And second part of the verse,merely states the obvious about people falling asleep, once sun sets and night arrives. So what is unscientific about the verse stating the obvious?
2) Atharvana Veda 6.5.1 DOESNOT talk about Sun (you said this verse repeats something) but it talks explicitly about Agni and its role. If you want to understand Agni, ask your friend on islamhinduism website.
3) Atharvana Veda 7.81.1 talks about new moon. The verses following it talk about the new and full moon alternating each other in a set span of days. What is unscientifc here? Arranging seasons pertains to obvious waxing and waning moon, tides being more etc etc.
4) Atharvana Veda 13.2.11: What do you mean by same is mentioned here? This verse talks about the radiance and the illumination of the Sun. What is unscientific here?
kindly quote this mantrs in english
Namaste Brother Slave
Will you accept Vedas to be free from errors if we do that? If yes, let us know, if no, why should we waste our time and energies to translate it for someone who is not going to believe anyway? And how will you confirm the meanings we have given are right or wrong?
@Slave of Allah
Brother who is your Allah? Kuran Allah or Vedik Allah who naver takes help of prophets to send his teaching, he can contact directly.
vajra, if you give rational response then i will
Kuran Allah slave of Mohmad
Allah is He, than Whom there is no other god; Who knows (all things) both secret and open; He, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
Allah is He, than Whom there is no other god; the Sovereign, the Holy One, the Source of Peace (and Perfection), the Guardian of Faith, the Preserver of Safety, the Exalted in Might, the Irresistible, the Supreme: Glory to Allah! (High is He) above the partners they attribute to Him.
He is Allah, the Creator, the Evolver, the Bestower of Forms (or Colours). To Him belong the Most Beautiful Names: whatever is in the heavens and on earth, doth declare His Praises and Glory; and He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise.]59:22-24
Slave
Please refer to the comment of Apolloreach for the same
And now do you believe that Allah sent Quran in hurry which was not required because Vedas were already present to enlighten the mankind?
Slave of allah you have got an apt name. What kind of a God is Allah,who, without givinig someone an opportunity to redeem keeps brutalizing a dead person for eternity.
Quran 4.56 As to those who reject Our signs, We shall cast them into the hell fire, and as often as their skins are roasted, We shall give them fresh skin, so that they shall feel the pain.
Is allah any better than hitler or mussolini or Saddam or Gaddhafi who are so insecure and also egoistic that they take a lot of pleasure in seeing someone not accepting them suffer forever?
Allah aka Benito,Hitler,Idi Amin,Saddam,Gaddafi….Please add these names too to the existing naes of allah.
@Slave of Allah
Brother please clarify my few query?
Q Why Allah needs prophet? Why he cant contact directly like Vedic Allah?
Q. Why we can not exceed or equal to Mohamd if Allah would will?
Q. What is Islam?
Q What should be trait of true religion?
Q. Why Allah teaching is not perfect & eternal like him.Why he changes his mind by sending different teaching time to time?
@ Why Allah did not clean my heat with water as he cleaned heart of Mohamed in his childhood? Why did he shown partiality.
READ WITH OPEN MIND..!!
Scientific errors,
1-Rig veda,2/12/2,
He who fixed fast
and firm the earth
that staggered, and
set at rest the
agitated mountains,
Who measured out
the air’s wide middle
region and gave the
heaven support, He,
men, is Indra.
2-Yajur veda, 32/6,
Agniveer says, it uses STABLE WORD..!!
Let see,
By whom the
heavens are strong
and earth stands
firmly,
by whom light’s
realm and sky-vault
are supported;
By whom the
regions in mid-air
were measured.
What
God shall we adore
with our oblation?
p. 265
Stable means steady which inturns means firmly fixed.
NO EQUILIBRIUM BROTHER..!!
3-Yajur veda, 4/30,
30 The skin of Aditi
art thou. Sit on the
lap of Aditi.
The Bull hath
propped the sky and
air’s mid-region, the
compass of the
broad earth hath he
measured.
He, King Supreme,
approached all living
creatures. Truly
all these are
Varuna’s ordinances.
5-Atharva veda,12/1/11,
O Prithivī, auspicious
be thy woodlands,
auspicious be thy
hills
and snow-clad
mountains.
Unslain,
unwounded,
unsubdued, I have
set foot upon the
Earth,
On earth brown,
black, ruddy and
every-coloured, on
the firm
earth that Indra
guards from danger.
6-Atharva veda 12/1/17,
Kind, ever gracious
be the Earth we
tread on, the firm
Earth,
Prithivī, borne up
by Order, mother of
plants and herbs, the
all-producer.
AGNIVEER, ALL TEXTS I SHOWED, SAYS EARTH IS STATIC..!!
And Allah knws all..!!
@spread truth
Brother, I think you got griffin translation. I have read the Veda, nowhere I read such things. If I translate Kuran without knowing Arbi and say Allah is Jokar mentioned in Kuran will you accept this nonsense claim of me? & Read it to know about Veda
http://agniveer.com/2728/god-vedas-hinduism/
@spread truth: Read translation of
Rigveda mantra 2/12/2
YAHA PRITHIVEEM VYATHAMAANAAMADRINGHADYAHA PARVATAANPRKUPITAAM ARAMNNAAT.
YO ANTRIKSHAMA VIMAME VAREEYO YO DYAAMASTABHNAATSA JANAS INDRAHA.
O! (JANASAHA) learned man (YAHA) he who (VYATHAMAANAAM) rotating (PRITHIVEEM) earth (ADRINGHAT) holds (YAHA) who (PRAKUPITAAN) like angry enemies (PARVATAAN) to clouds (ARAMNNAT) disperses (YAHA) who (VAREEYAHA) huge extensive ( ANTARIKSHAM) space (VIMAME) gives respect i.e., holds and (YAHA) who (DYAM) light (ASTBHNAAT) holds (SAHA) the God (INDRAHA) Himself is Almighty God who too disperses the matters like sun. So amongst the unlimited names of God based on His divine qualities, His one name is also Sun. he is the only God who is to be known.
Meaning:
O! learned man he who holds the rotating earth, who disperses the clouds like angry enemies, who gives respect i.e., holds the huge, extensive space, who holds light i.e., who is form of light and gives light to other heavenly bodies, He is only God who is to be known.
http://agniveer.com/2775/creation-hinduism/
@spread truth : Brother, If I can show you Koran/Bible saying earth is flat, will you leave islam (If you are a muslim)/Chiristianity (If you are Christian) ??
Lets discuss what your divine book says. First you come forward with intention to know the truth, I can prove Koran saying Earth is flat and many other scientific errors. First you leave Islam.
Then we will start discussing whether there is an error in Vedas or not. First know your own house.
AKHILA AND TRUTH SEEKER COMES TO DISCUSSION FORUM….!!!!