The core foundation of Hindu belief is that Vedas contain source of all knowledge – physical or metaphysical. However, in last 100 odd years, this belief has come under scrutiny due to the advances that modern science claims to make.
An entire group of Vedic ‘experts’ has stood up to prove that Vedas contain early man theories and are not compatible with modern discoveries. These include communist historians propelled by commentaries on Vedas by western Indologists like Max Muller, Griffith et al and a new breed of intellectuals who initiate all research with assumption that ‘old means defective’. However in modern era of religious marketing, another group has come up which would go to any length to discover scientific errors in Vedas. This is the group which would want 800 million Hindus to lose faith in Vedas and their religion and embrace what they believe is the final message of God. Yes I am referring to Islamic and Christian evangelists.
While both these groups of evangelists are propelled by vision of making everyone in world a follower of their respective Holy Books, the situation is even more desperate for Quran zealots. This is because a bulk of Islamic evangelists believes that Jesus will come again towards end of the world after which they would reach Paradise forever. And an important sign of Jesus’ coming is conquest of India. I do not know the original source of this superstition, but this remains a primary motivator for most Islamic evangelists today.
Thus, every now and then, we would see references to ‘Scientific Errors in Hinduism’. The typical pattern would be English translation of some mantra followed by a Veda Mantra reference.
Often the reference and English translation are both pointing to sources best known to authors of these works. But for layman, these create a lot of confusion and doubt over relevance of Vedas. While I would shy away from thrusting my personal faith on Vedas, I would like to provide some excerpts from Vedas that provide clues to deep scientific concepts hidden within them.
Unfortunately, due to thousand years of slavery, burning of our universities and libraries by barbarians and then demands for tackling issues of survival first, there remains a lot of work to be done to rediscover the Vedic sciences. However, sufficient clues exist to justify why this rediscovery would be worthwhile.
A new propaganda has become popular over last few months, which is being pursued aggressively on various internet websites, discussion groups, and social networking sites. Agniveer has received more than 50 references to this propaganda through emails, comments, and messages, either in support of it or with a request to counter it. Simply type “Scientific Errors in Hinduism” in Google and you shall get a huge number of results on this.
Initially, Agniveer thought this to be a childish blabbering not worth taking seriously. However, going by the alarming rate of its propagation, and considering the average mental aptitude of those trying to demean Vedas to establish a medieval era book as the only escape for all human beings from a burning Hell to an amorous Paradise, Agniveer finds it necessary to issue a rebuttal.
The original text comes in different variations but essentially provides a few Mantras from Vedas and some other tall claims to showcase Hinduism as unscientific.
In this chapter, we shall review each of the anti-Hindu claims of the document point by point and also provide some brief snippets of sufficient clues exist in Vedas.
A point of note: Vedas not being dogmatic in nature and containing eternal truths do not try to spoon-feed us. Thus, Vedas would contain seeds for all forms of knowledge and would urge humans to explore further. Because in the Vedic framework, it is our efforts that can provide us bliss.
Vedas say Earth is static!
Allegation 1: Indra has made this earth static.
According to Vedas, the earth is static, and this statement is repeated several times. The following are some of the examples: “Oh Man! He who made the trembling earth static is Indra.”
Rig Veda 2/12/12
Agniveer
Actual translation of the Mantra:
“He who ensures that the sun with seven colour bands that shines, the clouds that rain, air that circulates, water bodies that nourish us – all work in harmony to provide us life and vitality have been managed by Indra or the Ishwar who provides prosperity.”
Rig Veda 2/12/12
There is nothing about the static earth in this Mantra.
Allegation 2: God has made earth stable.
The God who made the earth stable.
Yajur Veda 32/6
Agniveer
Unfortunately, the “scientist” who wrote this could not distinguish between stable and static. Anything that moves or stays in equilibrium as per defined laws is stable and when there is an element of randomness or unpredictability, it becomes unstable. Stability DOES NOT mean lack of motion.
By the way, this is a great Mantra recited by Hindus daily, and it means:
“May we surrender all our actions and thoughts only to Him who has stabilised the sun and other illuminating bodies, the earth, the heavenly bodies and the entire universe solely for our happiness and who provides us ultimate bliss after Mukti or Salvation.”
Yajur Veda 32/6
Very clearly the Mantra says that all heavenly bodies, including the sun, are stable. Thus, even by the wildest stretch of “Heavenly” imagination, one cannot bring such a ridiculous meaning to this Mantra that implies earth as being static.
Allegation 3: Indra protects “immovable” earth.
Indra protects the wide earth which is immovable and has many forms.
Atharva Veda 12/1/11
Agniveer
This Mantra is from the famous Bhumi Sukta, which forms the origin of the sense of love that patriots demonstrate for Dharti Mata. When one reads this Sukta today considering how our freedom fighters would die for this soil and often carrying this soil in hand till last breath, one cannot help getting his eyes wet with a sense of gratitude towards those great legends whose debts we have to repay through our deeds.
The particular Mantra means:
“O Earth, you provide me with great snow-capped mountains and hills, forests, farms, food, herbs and rains so that I am always happy, protected and nurtured. You provide me with the support I need to live like a king.”
Atharva Veda 12/1/11
The following Mantra continues –
You are my mother, O Earth, and I am your son. You purify us and may we be able to repay your blessings through our noble actions.
What could be better thought on love for mother earth? However, perhaps patriotism and allegiance to the soil are alien to Anti-Hindu mindsets. That is why this is so unscientific for them!
Allegation 4: Walk on the Wide and Static earth.
Let us walk on the Wide and Static earth.
Atharva Veda 12/1/17
Agniveer
Actual meaning of the Mantra:
“May we travel all around the earth that provides us prosperity, nutrition, medicines and supports us in a variety of ways.”
Atharva Veda 12/1/17
The foolish Anti-Hindu just saw the word “Dhruva” and started imagining silly things. “Dhruva” means something that provides reliable support.
On the contrary, there are several Mantras in Vedas that clearly discuss the movement of the earth. Some examples:
• “This earth is devoid of hands and legs, yet it moves ahead. All the objects over the earth also move with it. It moves around the sun.
In this mantra,
Kshaa = Earth (refer Nigantu 1.1)
Ahastaa = without hands
Apadee = without legs
Vardhat = moves ahead
Shushnam Pari = Around the sun
Pradakshinit = revolves
Rig Veda 10/22/14
• “The sun has tied Earth and other planets through attraction and moves them around itself as if a trainer moves newly trained horses around itself holding their reins.”
In this mantra,
Savita = Sun
Yantraih = through reins
Prithiveem = Earth
Aramnaat = Ties
Dyaam Andahat = Other planets in sky as well
Atoorte = Unbreakable
Baddham = Holds
Ashwam Iv Adhukshat = Like horses
Rig Veda 10/149/1
• “The sun moves in its own orbit in space taking along with itself the mortal bodies like earth through force of attraction.”
Yajur Veda 33/43
• “The sun moves in its own orbit but holding earth and other heavenly bodies in a manner that they do not collide with each other through force of attraction.”
Rig Veda 1/35/9
• “Sun moves in its orbit which itself is moving. Earth and other bodies move around the sun due to the force of attraction, because the sun is heavier than them.”
Rig Veda 1/164/13
Vedas say the sun moves around the earth!
Allegation 5: Horses take the sun to the sky.
“Sun is full of light and knows all the human beings, so his horses take him to the sky to look at the world.”
Rig Veda 1/50/1
Agniveer
Again this is a daily prayer Mantra for Hindus. It means:
“The way rays of sun enable the world to see the sun; in the same manner, all noble people should propagate their goodness far and wide through good deeds and teachings.”
Rig Veda 1/50/1
There is neither a horse in this Mantra nor Mantra talks about sun moving around any earth.
Allegation 6: Chariot takes the sun to the sky.
“O, Bright sun, a chariot named harit with seven horses takes you to the sky.”
Rig Veda 1/50/8
Agniveer
Actual meaning of the Mantra:
“The way seven rays of sun carry its illumination across the world like horses of a chariot; in the same manner, you should understand seven kinds of Chhanda of Vedas.”
Rig Veda 1/50/8
One can try to interpret this Mantra to mean that the sun moves. However, then how would one explain rays as seven horses, because rays emanate from all around the sun and not necessarily in the direction of sun’s motion only.
Further, Vedas, in any case, do not deny that the sun moves. In fact, Vedas clearly state that the sun also moves, and there is no static body in the universe.
There is no mention of motion of the sun around the earth in this or any other Mantras.
As per Rig Veda 1/35/9, the sun has a different motion in its own orbit.
Allegation 7: Sun takes a round of the earth.
“O man, the sun who is most attractive takes a round of the earth on his golden chariot through the sky and removes the darkness of the earth.”
Yajur Veda 33/43
Agniveer
Actual meaning of the Mantra:
“The sun moves in its own orbit in space taking along with itself the mortal bodies like earth through force of attraction.”
Yajur Veda 33/43
Exactly this happens in reality. Even the most basic text on astronomy would cover this subject. Anti-Hindu texts have no notion of the concept of gravitational force causing Anti-Hindu scientists to raise a red-herring on this.
Allegation 8: Bull has supported the sky.
Vedas say The Bull has supported the Sky. “The Bull has supported the sky.”
Yajur Veda 4/30
Agniveer
Classic case of “One burnt in rainy season seeing only green colour”! The Anti-Hindu scientist simply saw the word “Vrishabh” and created yet another imagination by assuming it to mean a bull.
“Vrishabh” actually means an entity that is powerful, possessing high potentials or simply the best. It later came to mean the ‘bull’ also because the ‘bull’ is a symbol of raw power. There is hardly any animal that can match the bull in power and speed. Even a lion does not dare attack a bull from the front.
The actual meaning of the Mantra is:
“O All-Powerful Ishwar, you permeate all across the universe, create and nurture the earth, stabilise the sun, manage the heavenly bodies and sky and ensure like a righteous king that everything functions in the correct manner. This is your inherent nature.”
Yajur Veda 4/30
Allegation 9: Bull has supported the sky – 2.
“The Bull has supported the sky.”
Yajur Veda 14/5
Agniveer
This Mantra does not have any word that can mean a bull. This Mantra is on duties of a wife.
It states:
“O wife! May you be pleasing to your husband and indulge in noble activities. May you be extremely intelligent and further your knowledge through study like the sun. May you provide bliss to everyone in the same manner as the brilliant sun provides food, light and purity to all. May you please everyone in the same manner as water satisfies all. May you promote knowledge all across.”
Yajur Veda 14/5
Indeed, an amazing Mantra showing the Vedic respect for a woman. What can be a better example of women empowerment?
Miscellaneous allegations from Puranas
The rest of this silly article provides references from Puranas on how Hinduism is unscientific. However, Puranas are not at all considered evidence in the matter of Dharma. Only Vedas are considered divine, and we have adequately demonstrated how stupid the claims of Vedas being ‘unscientific’ are.
As for Puranas, they even contain descriptions of Muhammad Sahib, Akbar, and Victoria showing that they continued to be written until the 19th century, obviously under the might of the incumbent rule. So we shall simply not dwell into exploring the references given. We, however, doubt that even there, these anti-Hindu scientists would have made the same kind of blunders like they did while proving Muhammad Sahib in Bhavishya Puran as a demon worthy of being punished!
Two additional points remain to be covered apart from the references from Purana. Let us review them:
Allegation 10: No scientific truth in sun worship.
Vedas / Puranas recommend looking directly into the sun with the naked eye. The Vedas and Puranas say that all Hindus must pray to the sun god SURYA and that if you look at the sun daily every morning with your naked eyes, your sight will improve. Accordingly, many Hindus practice this act of worship; but instead of their eyesight improving, India is the country that has the most blind people in the world (2.5 million blind people and 9 million with corneal blindness). There is no scientific truth in sun worship, and on the contrary, the scientist and doctors advise everyone not to look at the sun directly with the naked eye. Who is telling us the truth, the Scientists or the Hindu scriptures? You be the judge!
Agniveer
No references have been provided in support of this allegation. Hence, this is only a vague allegation.
Yes, it is a natural treatment of India for eyes by watching the sunrise. There has been no a single case in the world that has caused damage to eyesight because they watched a sunrise or sunset. Refer: Solar observing and Eye Safety that provides references to several technical papers on this subject.
Damage to eyes happens when watching bright sun or eclipse. Hindus rightfully strongly recommend staying away from gazing the sun during those times.
The statistics on blindness in India is interesting. However, can the Anti-Hindu scientist also provide details on how many of these blinds were Hindus and how many contracted blindness due to watching the sunrise? Cataract is the prime cause of blindness in developing countries, and not a single research cited sunrise watching as the cause of blindness. Also, the prevalence of blindness is slightly more in Pakistan compared to India. What religion do they follow?
Allegation 11: Nothing is scientific about the holy cow.
Vedas say the cow is holy and should be worshipped. (Brahmins add that cow dung ash has medicinal value). The Vedas say that the cow is holy and should be worshipped. These Brahmins also claim that cow dung ash has medicinal value. Samples sent to a leading test laboratory in West Germany have proved this to be untrue.
Agniveer
Yes, Vedas indeed emphatically state that cow is most precious to sensible human beings and those who kill cows for a taste of tongues are indeed among the dumbest. Because a living cow, even if sterile, produces more benefits for the environment than a dead cow. Almost all outputs from a cow – milk, dung, urine – have a beneficial impact on environment and health. A smart community can sustain its power through preservation of cows alone.
We request to cite the name of the lab which proved cow dung ash to be useless. Kindly do not provide vague references. By the way, West Germany ceases to exist since 1990! Agniveer recalls how Zakir Naik also gives reference to research by some illiterate ‘farmer’ in California to justify Halal Meat. This shows the standards of the references of Anti-Hindu scientists!
Cow dung has been proven to produce tremendous benefits including construction of bricks. There are at least four International Patents (US/ Europe) on cow urine that Agniveer is aware of. Simply search on Google with ‘cow urine patent’.
Thus, rightfully Hindus regard cow to be as important as the mother.
Science is the foundation of Hindu Culture
Before concluding, let me assert a few points.
Science lies not only in scriptures of Hindus but even more so in the foundations of their culture. The most basic traditions of Hindus based on most scientific principles, despite being polluted by superstitions and foreign impacts.
• Namaste with folded hands is scientific
• Bangles and earrings for women are scientific
• Drinking lots of water in early morning as Usha-Paan is scientific
• Avoiding non-veg in pretext of some festival to extent possible is scientific
• Monogamy is scientific
• Considering all women except wife as equivalent to mother is scientific
• Encouraging children to ask questions is scientific
• Meditation is scientific
• Pranayam is scientific
• Desi Vyayam is scientific
• Not eating together from the same plate and avoiding exchange of saliva is scientific
• Washing hands several times with soap and water after bowels is scientific
• Washing organs properly with water during the bath is scientific
• Avoid needing circumcision merely to maintain hygiene is scientific.
Thus, a typical educated Hindu can easily inculcate scientific spirit and rationalism and progress ahead.
Proof of the pudding is in the eating. There are around 50 countries in the world with a Muslim majority, but fanatic rulers dominate almost all. Showcase how many renowned scientists have they produced, how many researchers, how many engineers of world repute?
There has been only one Muslim scientist worth being considered the Nobel Prize winner, Dr. Abdus Salam of Pakistan. However, he was thrown out of the country and declared Kafir because he was a Qadiyani. Thus, no Zakir Naik would dare take his name even though he would shout a lot on how Islam is the foundation of all science!
When Dr. Salam died in 1996, on his grave was inscribed “First Muslim Nobel Laureate”. However, due to orders of government, the word Muslim was removed. It now reads “First Nobel Laureate”!
There are other renowned scientists like Dr. Pervez Hoodbhoy and late Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam, and indeed, we are proud of them. Moreover, they also are proud of our ancient culture and history. They are thus noble Vedas followers and our jewels. If their version of Islam be promoted instead of what neo-Wahabis are propagating, the world would be a heaven.
Watch how the great Islamic Pakistani scholar and writer Hasan Nisar, exposes the intellectual capabilities of fanatic Muslim Ummat blatantly. He has repeatedly said that Muslim Ummat has not produced even a single intellectual from the centuries but still live in illusions of grandiose that never existed causing them to sink down and down.
Compare with Hindus. They are at top positions everywhere despite all odds. Right from the inception of civilisation, this culture has produced the most brilliant minds and continues producing even today. The reason obviously lies in the scientific foundations of the Hindu culture.
Thus, while a Pakistan is crumbling under its own weight after independence, India is surging ahead despite having a corrupt leadership and minority appeasement based mindset of its selfish leaders.
Before we conclude let’s see review some sufficient clues from Vedas
Science of Gravitational Force in Vedas
“O Indra! by putting forth your mighty rays, which possess the qualities of gravitation and attraction-illumination and motion – keep up the entire universe in order through the Power of your attraction.”
Rig Veda 8/12/28
“O God, You have created this Sun. You possess infinite power. You are upholding the sun and other spheres and render them steadfast by your power of attraction.
Rig Veda 1/6/5, Rig Veda 8/12/30
“The sun moves in its own orbit in space taking along with itself the mortal bodies like earth through force of attraction.”
Yajur Veda 33/43
“The sun moves in its own orbit but holding earth and other heavenly bodies in a manner that they do not collide with each other through force of attraction.
Rig Veda 1/35/9
“Sun moves in its orbit which itself is moving. Earth and other bodies move around the sun due to the force of attraction, because the sun is heavier than them.
Rig Veda 1/164/13
“The sun has held the earth and other planets.”
Atharva Veda 4/11/1
Science of Light of Moon in Vedas
“The moving moon always receives a ray of light from sun.”
Rig Veda 1/84/15
“Moon decided to marry. Day and Night attended its wedding. And sun gifted his daughter “Sun Ray” to Moon.”
Rig Veda 10/85/9
Science of Eclipse in Vedas
“O Sun! When you are blocked by the one whom you gifted your own light (moon), then earth gets scared by sudden darkness.”
Rig Veda 5/40/5
Science of Building Ships and Aeroplanes in Vedas
Swami Dayanand has detailed Mantras regarding these in his Vedic commentary and Introduction to Vedas” (1876). The scientists of IISc concluded that the mechanism of the aeroplane as suggested by Dayanand is feasible. The first manned plane was built 20 years after the death of Swami Dayanand.
The verses are difficult to translate in English here, but readers are advised to review “Introduction to Vedas” by Swami Dayanand or interpretations of following mantras: Rig Veda 1/116/3, 1/116/4, 10/62/1, 1/116/5, 1/116/6, 1/34/2, 1/34/7, 1/48/8, etc.
Science of Telegraphy in Vedas
“With the help of bipolar forces (Asvins), you should employ telegraphic apparatus made of a good conductor of electricity. It is necessary for efficient military operations but should be used with caution.”
Rig Veda 1/119/10
Conclusion
I hope this would be sufficient to at least drive the need for further exploration of our scientific heritage originating from Vedas. Agniveer strongly recommends those who have been brainwashed to hate non-Muslims and especially Hindus for most silly reasons to introspect on this. Agniveer recommends they read our books on Vedas to get the right concepts of Vedas and stop this hatred in the name of religion that only makes them, even more, dumber!
Vedas clearly declare that either you can have hatred or intelligence, but not both!
May the truth prevail!
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@trurth seeker,
look anotter transltion;
2.012.02 He, who fixed firm the moving earth; who tranquilized the incensed mountains; who spread the spacious firmament; who consolidated the heaven; he, men, is Indra. [Who tranquilized the incensed mountains: yah parvata_n prakupta_n aramn.a_t = he quited the mountains, going hither and thither, as long as they had wings: Indra cut them off].
@spread truth
translation of Rigved 2/12/2 verse word by word.
http://agniveer.com/3050/scientific-errors-in-hinduism/#comment-15690
@akhila said,
I can prove Koran saying Earth is flat and many other scientific errors. First you leave Islam.
FIRST U CAN SHOW ME SCIENTIFIC ERRORS IN QURAN, THEN SURELY BY EXAMINING I WILL LEAVE ISLAM….!!!
COME TO DISCUSSION FORUM NOW…!!!
@spread truth
God living in heaven itself is a scientific error. There is no 7th heaven and no god as per science.
List of Islamic Jihads from beginning
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The Jihad against Arabs (622 to 634)
The Jihad against Zoroastrian of Iran, Baluchistan and Afghanistan (634 to 651)
The Jihad against the Byzantine Christians (634 to 1453)
The Jihad against Christian Coptic Egyptians (640 to 655)
The Jihad against Christian Coptic Nubian’s – modern Sudanese (650)
The Jihad against pagan Berbers – North Africans (650 to 700)
The Jihad against Spaniards (711 to 730)
The Reconquista against Jihad in Spain (730 to 1492)
The Jihad against Franks – modern French (720 to 732)
The Jihad against Sicilians in Italy (812 to 940)
The Jihad against Chinese (751)
The Jihad against Turks (651 to 751)
The Jihad against Armenians and Georgians (1071 to 1920)
The Jihad against Mongols (1260 to 1300)
The Jihad against Hindus of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh (638 to 1857)
The Jihad against Indonesians and Malays (1450 to 1500)
The Jihad against Poland (1444 to 1699)
The Jihad against Germany (1945 onwards)
The Jihad against Rumania (1350 to 1699)
The Jihad against Russia (1500 to 1853)
The Jihad against Bulgaria (1350 to 1843)
The Jihad against Serbs, Croats and Albanians (1334 to 1920)
The Jihad against Greeks (1450 to 1853)
The Jihad against Albania (1332 – 1853)
The Jihad against Croatia (1389 to 1843)
The Jihad against Hungarians (1500 to 1683)
The Jihad against Austrians (1683)
Jihad in the Modern Age (20th and 21st Centuries)
The Jihad against Israelis (1948 – 2004 ongoing)
The Jihad against Americans (9/11/2001)
The Jihad against the British (1947 onwards)
The Jihad against Denmark (2005 Cartoon Controversy onwards)
The Jihad against Netherlands (2006 onwards)
The Jihad against the Filipinos in Mindanao(1970 onwards)
The Jihad against Indonesian Christians in Malaku and East Timor (1970 onwards)
The Jihad against Russians (1995 onwards)
The Jihad against Dutch and Belgians (2003 onwards)
The Jihad against Norwegians and Swedes (2003 onwards)
The Jihad against Thais (2003 onwards)
The Jihad…
If Muslims believe in Vedas why you all diehard fans go after them and
ask them for their identity and compel or guess who they are too much hypocrite. Then
you say oh target found lets decode and recode their mind too much. for example below
respect one’ sappreciation do not destruct the minds by maligning other. Do not Vedas
teach not to insult others theory. Where is your Karma disappear now?
@Vajra
“Namaste Noor
Good to see such a sensible person like you here calling him/herself a Muslim. But unfortunately, not most of the Muslims will recognize you as Muslim. If I am correct, you belong to Ahmadi sect of Islam which is considered as Non Islamic by others.
May I know, do you believe in Sahih Hadith Bukhari and Muslim?”
Vedas or Quran all book of signs and knowledge.
Qn hey its heaven also in Vedas?
By whom the
heavens are strong
and earth stands
firmly,
by whom light’s
realm and sky-vault
are supported;
By whom the
regions in mid-air
were measured.
What
God shall we adore
with our oblation?
p. 265
Stable means steady which inturns means firmly fixed.
A brief selection of a few points from the Scientific Errors in Hindu Scriptures!
Many more points can be presented but I guess these few points will be enough to prove my point.
Hindus either have to prove these things presented in their sacred scriptures or accept that their sacred scriptures have severe scientific errors. Vedas, claimed by Hindus to be the most sacred scripture, allege that: Sun moves around the earth on a golden chariot with his 7 horses. Vedas also allege that The Bull has supported the sky. For more continue reading below.
1. Vedas say Earth is static!
According to Vedas, the earth is static and this statement is repeated several times. The following are some of the examples:
Oh Man ! He who made the trembling earth static is Indra. (Rig Ved 2/12/12)
The God who made the earth stable (Yajur Ved 32/6)
Indra protects the wide earth which is immovable and has many forms (Atarv Ved 12/1/11)
Let us walk on the Wide and Static earth (Atharv Ved 12/1/17)
2. Vedas say Sun moves around the earth on a golden chariot with his 7 horses
As the Veds Claim that the earth is static and so they tried to prove that the sun moves around the earth. The following statement from the rig Ved tries to clarify it:
1. 1. “Sun is full of light and knows all the human beings, so his horses take him to sky to look at the world” (Rig Ved 1/50/1)
2. 2. “O, Bright sun, a chariot named harit with seven horses takes you to sky” (Rig Ved 1/50/8)
3. 3. “O, man, the sun who is most attractive, takes round of the earth, on his golden chariot through the sky and removes the darkness of the earth” (Yajur Ved 33/43)
3. Vedas say The Bull has supported the Sky “The Bull has supported the sky.” Yajur Ved: 4: 30
“The Bull has supported the sky.” Yajur Ved: 14:5
4. Puranas say Earth is Flat
NARASINGA PURANA ¬Page 169 ¬Abithana Sinthamani ¬says that the earth is flat. Today it has been proved beyond doubt by the scientists that the earth is round.
5. Vishnu Purana ¬another…
@Muhammad
You have been refuted here http://agniveer.com/3050/scientific-errors-in-hinduism/.
Interestingly you will get shocked when you read it because this is the very same page on which you vomited your copied crap and on which you have been slapped through this comment 🙂
@MUHAMMAD
MUHAMMAD, Vedas are not Quran which promote the science of flying donkeys and rocks running away with Moses’ clothes. Go read ur Quran first and see the redicule in in!! Which normal person would consider a joke like Quran to be divine??
Next read the article before you comment, because all the crap you BLINDLY copy pasted from jihadi sites have been refuted on this same page, if you dont believe me, have a look, its simple, just scroll up
@mohammad,unfortunately,your quran is really late to give message to humans and even before quran , our ancestors discovered those things which Arabs cant think of it..Aryabhatt in 499 AD,pingala in 200 BC,Boudhayan in 700 BC,Brahmagupta around 600 AD,bhaskaracharya in 628 AD,Vishnumurthy in 100 BC,Lallacharya in 700 AD,Varahamihira in (505–587)AD etc…all before or just few years after near to revealation of Quran..
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SOME BHARATIYA INVENTIONS IN NAME OF FOREIGNERS BY IISH,KERALA WITH PROOFS BELOW..
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>>NILAKANTA SOMAYAJI Discovered Taylor Series of Sine And Cosine Function about 250 years
>>PUTHUMANA SOMAYAJI Discovered Newton Power Series
>>MADHAVACHARYA Discovered Gregory Leibnitz series for the inverse tangent about 280years before gregory
>>MADHAVACHARYA Discovered Leibnitz Power Series for PI about 300 years before leibnitz
>>DE MOIVRE’S (1650 AD) APPROXIMATION DISCOVERED BY MADHAVA CHARYA
>>BHASKARACHARYA calculated the time taken by the earth to orbit the sun hundereds of years the astrnomer smart. Time Taken be the earth to orbit the sun(5Th Century) : 365.258756484 days
>>BHASKARACHARYA II in Beejaganitha(stanza-20) has given clear explanation with the example of infinity
>>BHASKARACHARYA II discovered Differential calculus.
>>Theory of continued fraction was discovered by BHASKARACHARYAII
>>Airthematic Progression is explained in Yajurveda
>>Govindaswamin Discovered Newton Gauss Interpolation formula about 1800years before newton
>>Vasteswaracharya discovered Newton Gauss Backward Interpolation formula about 1000 years before newton
>>Parameswaracharya discovered Lhuiler’s Formula about 400 years back before Lhuiler
>>TYCHO BRAHE REDUCTION of ecliptic discovered by ACHYUTA PISHARATI
>>NILAKANTA SOMAYAJI Discovered Newtons Infinite GP Convergent Series
>>Positive and Negative Numbers and their calculations were explained first by Brahmagupta in the book Brahmagupta Siddhanta
>>Aryabhatta also propounded the Heliocentric theory of Gravitation,…
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>>Aryabhatta also propounded the Heliocentric theory of Gravitation, thus predating Copernicus by almost 1000 years
>>Boudhayana discovered Pythagorus Theorem in 800BC. ie 300 years before Pythagorus.
>> Sterling formula was discovered by Brahmagupta about 1000 years before Sterling.
>>The value of pi was first calculated by Aryabhatta I in 499 AD,ie more than 1350 years before Lindemann
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these are few only ..The list is very big actually
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FOR PROOF WITH SLOK read below pdfs of IISH,Kerala
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http ://www .homebusinessandfamilylife.com/support-files/weclaimtheseareindiandiscoveries.pdf
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http ://www .mediafire.com/?ntyuym2anix (fill gaps in link) Mediafire link also contains science in chemistry which is not given by agniveer
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So how can Vedas have scientific errors revealed by God..The problem seems that vedas are most difficult to interpret ,..Its not a child’s play..:)
The point is not Hindu scientists made great researches, the point is no hindu spiritual leaders oppose their view. There are many critics to arya bhatta, but nobody criticised when he said earth is spherical. this attitute of Hindus prove they were aware of the spherical nature of earth earlier. But when a man said earth is spherical, many muslim authorities raised fatwas. The fatwas stopped when the muslims were fully convinced that the earth is really spherical, and some modern muslim scholars associated the word dahaha being like egg shaped.
‘Brain surgery’ during Harappan civilisation
Scientists at the Anthropological Survey of India claim to have found evidence of an ancient brain surgical practice on a Bronze Age Harappan skull.
The skull, believed to be around 4,300 years old, bears an incision that indicates an “unequivocal case” of a surgical practice known as trepanation, says a research paper published in the latest edition of Current Science.
Trepanation, a common means of surgery practised in prehistoric societies starting with the Stone Age, involved drilling or cutting through the skull vault, often to treat head injury or to remove bone splinters or blood clots caused by a blow to the head.
http://www.thehindu.com/arts/history-and-culture/article2118388.ece?homepage=true
@everybody on this site.
All religions are only diffrent path to achive common goal that is service and love of God. But the problem is that the religion which were formed are not followed strictly nowdays. U may follow any religion but it should be perfectly followed. Kuran, Bibel, Bhagwatgeeta contains similar knowledge but at diffrent level as they were spoken to diffrent sects of peopel according to their knowledge and level of understanding
So dont just speak on this scared scripture so harshly. Just follow what they speak of and let enter it in ur lives which is difficult than uprooting Himalayas ,or playing with King Cobra etc. But one should speak against peopel like Zakir Naik who not only missinterpret vedas but also kuran and dangerous thing is that they have followers. All religion should come to gather and fight against this demon or evil and his army which is said in all religion.
Zakir Naik hai hai……
@vishal:
All religions are only diffrent path to achive common goal that is service and love of God.
While I do believe such universalism has its place, I find it difficult to reconcile the Vedic concept of “Ekam sat vipra bahuda vadanti” [Truth is one but the wise refer to it by different names.] with Surat At-Tawbah, Ayat 5.
@vishal
You should be thankful for that the all muslims, christians, Jews are not following exactly what thier religion says. Otherwise, the world would have been a huge mess.
just go to below link and u will find that how Zakir Naik blasphemas Mohmad…
ariseindiaforum.org/islam_tolerance.php?type=91
@shravak
All the religion are right but peopel don’t follow it as said in their scriptures.
For example in Bibel it is said that ”thou shall not kill” but they still maintain somany slaughter houses.
And they explain it as that ”it is only for humans and not for animals” .
If jesus had to say that then he would say ”thou shall not murder”
Hare krishna.
Then what about the violent verses in Bible?
peopel just want to enjoy their own senses and they modify their original scriptures for their convinence…and do sins on religious ground.
i speak what i have listen from great scholars srila praphudada. Just read his books and u will know many many things on religion, soul, position of man in universe, who is god, how to worship god, why are their are somany religions ect and many things… Hare krishna.
dunno who is he and what did he taught. why to follow any other person when you yourself can decide.
FYI…..In the bible the word slaughter appears at least 56 times, slay appears 118 times, slew shows up 171 times, & smote is written more than 226 times.
@vishal
I have read his book & all his commentaries are against Veda. You will like his book because you have not read Veda or do not aware of Veda ideology. I was also like you when I was unaware of Veda.
i speak what i have listen from great scholar of vedas srila praphudada. Just read his books and u will know many many things on religion, soul, position of man in universe, who is god, how to worship god, why are their are somany religions ect and many things… Hare krishna.
@vishal
Who Says you srila praphudada was a scholar of Veda. But I think from reading his book he never read even ABC of Veda. If you hint on his book “Geeta Yatharoop” then he totally misunderstood the Geeta & he nowhere mentions reference of Veda Mantra in support of his commentary on Geeta.
if a boy takes all books of medical in room and read it on his own for 4 yrs and then claims that that now he knows every thing about medicine then will u go to him for treatment… NO bcoz he dont have degree or he has not learn it from a guru who actully practices it in hospital.
So if u want to learn vedas then go to proper guru who has learned it from his guru and so on and who also follows it as said in it…other wise ur reading of vedas is just waste of time…and shows that u r only intrested in debate and noting else.
@vishal
it is clearly appears from you comments you are not speaking of your idea but Idea of ISKON
______So if u want to learn vedas then go to proper guru who has learned it from his guru and so on and who also follows it as said in it___________ This ideology mentioned many places in books of srila praphudada & I also agree with him on this point, but his many teaching against Veda & universal truth. But I do not have much time & interest to debate on this, you yourself continue keep search of Truth, definitely you will succeed. Read all article of Agniveer & comments given below the article & I think you should start from here 6 article on Vedic god
http://agniveer.com/series/vedic-lessons/
i am also not intrested in debate and have found source of true knowledge and it benifits me and i can experince it.
Vishal Gore signing off
Hare krishna.
Good that you are not interested in a debate. But the important point is what will you do when the debate is brought to your doorstep, as the ever ebullient daees and missionaries eventually will, just a matter of time. You remind me of the ostrich who thinks burying his/her head in the sand will ward off evil. You can stay signed off.
CAN WE CREATE A COUNTRY FROM HINDU SCRIPTURE
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Hindu scriptures like Veda, Upanishad, arania, Brahmans, purana and even bagavath githa never promote the single verses about the rashtra. We can never found the scientific basement of country, leaders, politics, law, judiciary, court and penal law. The RSS and fundamentals Hindus try to make India become a Hindu country, but their Vedas never inform a single verse about a country setup.
Veda contain only the Migration of Arians, their fight against the rural people like Dravidians and their ‘prakrith’(oldest superstitious based) religious concept. Veda never gives a concept of country. Upanishad contain the discussion between the ‘jivathma’ and ‘parmathma’.Purana contain the unbelievable characters and story of dhashvathara. Brahmana contain the different mantra. Ramayana and Mahabharata contain the kings and the peoples, but it never contains rule and regulation about an ideal country. Bagvath githa consider as a basement of Hindu rashtra, but it never contains the rules and laws required for the modern country.
From the history we can’t saw the Hindu religion, dharshana and civilization as a union power or union country, but from history we know the people of India fighting each other on the basis of cast system and f land. Hindu Veda and Upanishad can’t unite the different cast and kind of people. That leads to capture and share our country to British; France and Portuguese .We can’t show an ideal country from Indian history.
Why Indian judiciary, Indian Constitution, Indian penal law and different government law never include the law of Veda and Upanishad?
That my important questions to modern Hindu Reincarnation people .the most of the people organized this law by Hindu, why are they considering the Veda and Upanishad?
Why we receive our most of the law from US, UK, South Africa, Australia, Germany, etc. truth is they understand the law from Veda and Upanishad incapable of an ideal society. The available…
>>Hindu scriptures like Veda, Upanishad, arania, Brahmans, purana and even bagavath githa never promote the single verses about the rashtra
There are many verses addressing a king/ruler.
>>We can never found the scientific basement of country, leaders, politics, law, judiciary, court and penal law. The RSS and fundamentals Hindus try to make India become a Hindu country, but their Vedas never inform a single verse about a country setup.
One single rule “ahimsa paramo darmaha” is enough. Many rules can be dedcucted from this rule. An intelligent person only lists what is necessary and sufficient to live happily. Vedas do the same.
An infinite rules without the spirit of rule will only do harm, as islamic rules have done.
can u list the rule from Veda the scientific basement of country, leaders, politics, law, judiciary, court and penal law?
“ahimsa paramo darmaha” how can it practicable for the criminal law?
“ahimsa paramo darmaha” — not in vedas.
“ahimsa paramo darmaha”— not in bhagwad gita even.
it comes in only mahabharta —
अहिंसा परमॊ धर्मः सर्वप्राणभृतां समृतः
तस्मात पराणभृतः सर्वान न हिंस्याथ बराह्मणः कव चित
बराह्मणः सौम्य एवेह जायतेति परा शरुतिः
it is telling the virtues of brahmana(a learned one or a teachers etc.)….
Verily the highest virtue of man is sparing the life of others. Therefore a Brahmana should never take the life of any creature.
A Brahmana should be versed in the Vedas and Vedangas, and should inspire all creatures with belief in God…….
the end part of shlok says..
बराह्मणस्य परॊ धर्मॊ वेथानां धरणाथ अपि
कषत्रियस्य तु यॊ धर्मः स नेहेष्यति वै तव
थण्डधारणम उग्रत्वं परजानां परिपालनम
तथ इथं कषत्रियस्यासीत कर्म ||
The duties of the Kshatriya are not thine. To be “stern”, to “wield the sceptre” i.e. punish wrong doers and to rule the subjects properly are the duties of the Kshatriya (means king, police force, army etc.).
“so it clearly says that those who are in govermental police force (ksatriya) etc… shall only do justice not others take law in their hand!””
what else would you need ?
the story of Mahabharata explained krishna arya,
what a miracle things?
in discussion forum i point some errors in Ramayana/mahabaratha,all the aryans says we never believe it,it is not valid,ask the questions from only 4veda.
here one of aryan gives the evidence from mahabaratha.
it indicate arya samaj member has two faces,if some error is there they never belive upanishid,mahabarath,ramayana.if they want to expalin some non-vedic things they support it.
is it 100% clear true my dear aryans?
@shabeer
By the way what the wrong you found in krishna arya this comment
http://agniveer.com/3050/scientific-errors-in-hinduism/#comment-29477
Mahabharat & Ramayan teaching will be taken into consideration as far as they are in the line of Veda. Any teaching which is against is rejected.
@shabeer
Why should I believe in book which proves Allah Kalama is not eternal?
Like this:
http://letusthinkagain.blogspot.com/2011/08/blog-post_12.html
The available laws from Hindu scripture contain only basis of cast system and Theocracy of Brahmin, that impracticable to an ideal, moral and modern country.
Today we know the different Hindu group like RSS says about the ‘unity of Hinduism’ and ’all Hindu are one’. but from history we can never saw these word used by Hindu people or organization before the independence and they are never provide a clear, valid, trustful theoretical basement from the Veda and Upanishad about their unity.
Why aren’t they says to people “common to this law” or “come to this theory” or “common to this verses” or else, they never said like that, because Hindu scripture never lead to the people to a common theory, law ,single point and a common dharshana. What we can understand from it, this is the technique of getting political interest. Not unite the Hinduism. That their intention about it. Recently wikileaks provide it.
Even if I were to accept your argument to be true, then what is it that your are trying to prove? We hindus will continue to adapt to the changing times and circumstances, but you muslims will stay entrenched in the hoary past and refuse to budge; even if the practices of that past would be considered as social evils in the present-day society, you will brazenly try to put up ludicrous arguments to lend some credence to its relevance when there is none.
” We hindus will continue to adapt to the changing times and circumstances ”
that word i expecting from my hindu friends
that means Hinduism never been a static theory and rules.
there is some problem behind it,
1) if a person X did some thing today as a religious belief,one year after he died,five year after Hinduism says that that act as sinned things,
according to new rule,he sinned person,is it?
2) who give the new rule brother?
100 of years ago lower cast women believe that,the sexual stratification of high class men give them to salvation. how can it be religious rule?
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Well, Shabeer, the problem with you muslims is that you are willing to continue with archaic laws that were fit for savages. Now, what I understand from you is in this age of spacecrafts, you would still prefer to travel on camel’s back. You are stuck and frozen in time, my dear friend. Sincerely hope that you will able to shake off this pernicious stranglehold of an antiquated piece of dehumanizing literature and move with times although deep down I have this eerie feeling that you would not do so.
quran and Islamic law is ever green to the end of day brother.
its law of god,not for law for only upper cast people.
my 1 and 2 question u never answered.
3) what the important of kalki avathar(end of avathar)?
if the rule is never,it change to time/space,what the purpose of final avathar?
is it he contradiction 3
4) all the hindu group says veda sampurna (contained all the knowledge)
is it?
if we belive the rule changed by time/space,how can we syas that it sampurna?
beau’s some law coming in future,that law never cantained today.
contradiction 4
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@shabeer
You are fool, even after passing so much time on this websites. According to Veda there God never incarnate
Yajurveda 34.53 (He is unborn and maintaining One single identity always) and Yajurveda 40.8 (He is always uniform, without body, without nerves, without gaps and unchangeable).
God never need of incarnation.
@shabeer:
>>The available laws from Hindu scripture contain only basis of cast system and Theocracy of Brahmin, that impracticable to an ideal, moral and modern country.
The idea of caste system is still relevant in this moder world. The modern world still rely on the four roles enumerated.
kshatriyas – soldiers, Vysysa-investors, Shudra- working and political class in present day context, brahmin – knower of brahman or if we decrease stringent definition a person who learns religious scriptures, lives a normal life and helps the society with his knowledg.
For any modern society all these people are required and are necessary for building a good country.
>>Today we know the different Hindu group like RSS says about the ‘unity of Hinduism’ and ’all Hindu are one’. but from history we can never saw these word used by Hindu people or organization before the independence and they are never provide a clear, valid, trustful theoretical basement from the Veda and Upanishad about their unity
Why are you contradicting your own statements? on some other thread you are saying that aryans were inhabitors of the land in which the deer roamed. The deer roamed around all of india from kashmir to kanyakumari and thats why we are united country.
>>>Why are you contradictin…………….
don’t deviated subject,read my post once again i wrote the the ‘unity of hinduism’ we can’t saw before the Independence.
>>Shudra- working and political class
that lie,can u prove from veda……………
look>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shudra
three people ok,fourth one error.
what is my questions?
how many kinds of people in a moral country?
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can u list the rule from Veda the scientific basement of country, leaders, politics, law, judiciary, court and penal law?
@Shabber
___________how many kinds of people in a moral country___________
Who gave you right to talk of morality. You morality is if a 50 years old man does sex with 9 years old girl is morality.
You believe if one makes sex slaves woman of non-believer is morality.
You believe sex with sister is morality.
You believe in people who supports sex between brother & sister is morality. Your so called ancestors Aadam & Eve who supported sex between brother & sister.
don’t deviate from my questions by posting some unrelated things.
some people believe in kalki avathar,someone not.
where i got the exact picture of Hinduism?
where is the unity of hinduism?
mr.truth seeker answer my questions,law depends the time/space its your group claim,u must answer it(ok if u not believe kalki,i am not compel to u answer remaining 3 q.)
Wikipedia is not a reliable site. It has information that other people have submitted.
The Shudra class isnt a “slave” class and does not serve others. They are like blacksmiths, goldsmiths, manservants, maids and so on.
Shabber
__________where is the unity of hinduism____________
Are Muslim united despite Shariya Law in Pakistan, Afganistan, Irak, Iran, Saudi Arab etc. The Answer is “not” rather Muslims are divided & Kuran completely failed to join the people. All Muslim countries slaves of U.S.A. not Allah. Why Allah made Kufr like U.S.A so powerful that U.S.A. is exploiting momins. U.S.A. destroying Muslim countries, Afganistan, Pakistan, Irak etc but Muslim are divided & engaged in killing there fellow brothers on issue of who was last prophet, which cult of Muslim would go to heaven etc. But they are not able to fight unitedly with Kufr U.S.A.
@truthseeker
if u can’t answer my questions,that not problem,i can’t understand how can u behaving like that?
this is not a political discussion, we discussing religious matters.
” @tr Are Muslim united despite Shariya Law in Pakistan, Afganistan, Irak, Iran, Saudi Arab etc. ”
quranic and haded point out the common Shariya Law to all people of the world,Saudi and Kuwait government going on according to this rule.
i never says all the country r islamic or all the ‘islamic namers’ r muslim.
the diffrent shariya law is the problem belong to the people,not quran or islam.
but,Most of the hindu religious dharshana like dhoytham,adhoytham,vishida dhoytham, dhoytha dhoytham created by upanishid..sree sankara,madhwan and ramanuja are the well known upanishid pandith All the dharshana created by same upanishid at the same time each of these dharshna had wide diversity.
How can it come?
What is the truth?
Sa athma thomasi? Or sa athma aha thathwamasi?
@shabeer
If I want to be Muslim, Is it obligatory for me :-
1. To believe Allah is confined/limited entity-limited to just a throne.
2. To Believe Allah was sitting idly before this creation.
3. To Believe Allah kalama is not eternal.
@truthseeker
1. To believe Allah is confined/limited entity-limited to just a throne.
it false plz read my post in discussion forum/concept of god in islam.
2. To Believe Allah was sitting idly before this creation.
i given link to u,what allha doing before his creation,i think u never read it,that my problem,plz read it,and point out here what r the things r wrong from it.
3. To Believe Allah kalama is not eternal.
post the subject in english here,i think first questions(my post in discussion may be clear u’r allegation)
@shabeer
I can not read you irrelevant & lengthy post, there is nothing but time waste. If you know what was Allah doing before this creation, sitting idly or not. You can post your reply here. It does not deserve lengthy response. So you can post here.Suppose, I ask you in simple words what were you doing when you were 15 years old. You will simply answer me that you were doing job or studying in school etc. In same way you can answer me what was Allah doing before this creation?
Dear agniveerji you are doing a fabulous job, let the knowledge of vedas reach everyone and enlighten them
Please visit my blog to see the funny facts about Quran that justifies hindu believes
http://www.vibiesh.blogspot.com
ThankYou
with Love
Vibiesh
Dear All ! i read quaran and I found it is someone (GOD) instructed to Muhammad ( Prophet ) with full of Anger and Frustation , Why the god is so angry ???? , like ‘ AGAR TUMNE BOOT PARST IKI ..TO …..AZAAB “…and many more .. may be some high level concept but lot of fear i feel there.
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Swami Agneever ji,
There are references of Rahu eating the sun during the solar eclipse, which have now been scientifically proved to be wrong. I agree that these can be the believes propagated for the naive followers so that they can do charity etc as suggested by the vedas and this leads to benefit of the society on the whole, but do you think such a thing is necessary?
Namaste, There is no such reference in Vedas. Maybe someone created an allegory later and it became popular. Please note that the Vedas constitute our Dharma/ Hinduism. Rest are later day details which keep changing from time to time.
There are more than 20000 hymns in Vedas.Most of the hymn has two meanings.One is of science and the other is about God.There is such a science in Vedas which has been discovered by the God.But there are some laws which still needs to be discovered.But when we read its translation by fools,we would certainly go away from the Vedas.Everyone should leanr and teach the Vedas honestly and necessarily.But,due to bad luck,poeple are deviated from the Vedas due to frauds in our society.They are in the form of Pandits,Mullas and Padaris and the so-called monks.
India was the motherland of our race, and Sanskrit the mother of Europe’s languages: she was the mother of our philosophy; mother, through the Arabs, of much of our mathematics; mother, through the Buddha, of the ideals embodied in Christianity; mother, through the village community, of self-government and democracy. Mother India is in many ways the mother of us all.
– Will Durant
Vedanta is the most impressive metaphysics the human mind has conceived
– Alfred North Whitehead
It is Indian astronomy from which Romans, Greek and even Jews borrwed their knowledge.
– Jean Sylvian Belly
This life of yours which you are living is not merely apiece of this entire existence, but in a certain sense the whole; only this whole is not so constituted that it can be surveyed in one single glance. This, as we know, is what the Brahmins express in that sacred, mystic formula which is yet really so simple and so clear; “tat tvam asi”, this is you. Or, again, in such words as “I am in the east and the west, I am above and below, I am this entire world
– Erwin Schrodinger
Their (Indian philosophers’) subtleties make most of the great European philosophers look like schoolboys
– T S Eliot
Entire mankind together with all of its sciences must have originated on roof of world i.e., Himalayas.
– Immanuel Kant
Nichola Tesla used ancient Sanskrit terminology in his descriptions of natural phenomena
Reference:
http://alturl.com/akoks
Excuse me for mistyping.The fourth sentence of my sentence is:There is science in Vedas which has been discovered by the scientists.
“When I read Bhagwad Gita and reflect upon how GOD created this Universe, everything else seems superfluous.”
– Albert Einstein
“The Hindu revelation, which proclaims the slow and gradual formation of worlds, is of all revelations the only one whose ideas are in complete harmony with modern science.”
– Louis Francois Jaccolliott
“The only religion whose timescales corresponds to modern scientific discovery is Vedic Hinduism”
– Carl Sagan
“Modern Physics is nothing but exemplification, encouragement and refinement of ancient Hindu wisdom. Access to Vedas is the greatest privilege this century may claim over the previous.”
– Julius Robert Oppenheimer
“The ideas of Quantum physics which sound so crazy started making sense when talked about Vedic philosophy.”
– Werner Heisenberg
“At this supremely dangerous moment in human history , the only way of salvation is the ancient Hindu way.”
– Arnold Joseph Toynbee.
“After a study of some forty years and more of the great religions of the world, I find none so perfect , none so scientific, none so philosophical and none so spiritual that the great religion known by the name of Hinduism.”
– Annie Wood Beasant
“I am convinced that everything has come down to us from the banks of Ganges – … That Brahmin dynasty taught the rest of the world.”
– Francois Voltaire
“India – The land of Vedas, the remarkable works contain not only religious ideas for a perfect life, but also facts which science has proved true. Electricity, radium, electronics, airship, all were known to the seers who founded the Vedas.”
– Elba Wheeler Wilcox
“They were very advanced Hindu astronomers in 6000 BCE. Vedas contain an account of the dimension of Earth, Sun, Moon, Planets and Galaxies”
– Emmeliun Plumret
“Gravitation was known to the Hindus (Indians) much before the birth of Newton. The system of blood circulation was discovered by them centuries before Harvey was heard of.”
P. Johnstone
“There is a striking resemblance between the equivalence of mass and energy symbolized by Shiv’s cosmic dance and the Western theory, first expounded by Einstein: E=MC^2 .”
– Richard Waterstone
CONCLUSIONS
Many of the advances in the sciences that we consider today to have been made in Europe were in fact made in India centuries ago.
जयतु भारतम् जयतु आर्यावर्त ॥
Brilliant post Agniveer. Your intelligence is as usual,beyond words. But we have one very serious complaint agagainst you ! That you have not produced the slokha of the Vedas in Sanskrit, especially the ones regarding the Sun pulling the Earth. This is very important and we Hindus would like to read it properly. Therefore it is a humble but strong request that you produce the originals. Hariom and may Lal Sai bless you all .
@daily bread
Vedas don’t have shlokas but mantras instead.
Kindly refer – http://agniveer.com/663/science-in-vedas/ for concerned mantras
In the Avesta, Hapta-Hindu is used for Sanskrit Sapta-Sindhu, the Avesta being dated variously between 5000-1000 B.C. This indicates that the term ‘Hindu’ is as old as the word ‘Sindhu.’ Sindhu is a Vedik term used in the Rigveda. And therefore, ‘Hindu’ is as ancient as the Rigveda.
In the Avestan Gatha ‘Shatir’, 163rd Verse speaks of the visit of Veda Vyas to the court of Gustashp and in the presence of Zorashtra, Veda Vyas introduces himself saying ‘man marde am Hind jijad.’ (I am man born in ‘Hind.’) Veda Vyas was an elder contemporary of Shri Krishna (3100 B.C.)
The Greek term ‘Indoi’ is a softened form of ‘Hindu’ where the initial ‘H’ was dropped as the Greek alphabet has no aspirate. This term ‘Indoi’ was used in Greek literature by Hekataeus (late 6th century B.C.) and Herodotus (early 5th century B.C.), thus establishing that the Greeks were using this derivative of ‘Hindu’ as early as 6th century B.C.
The Hebrew bible uses ‘Hodu’ for India, which is a Judaic form of ‘Hindu’. The Hebrew Bible (Old Testament) is considered earlier than 300 B.C. Today’s Hebrew spoken in Israel also uses Hodu for India.
The Chinese used the term ‘Hien-tu’ for ‘Hindu’ about 100 B.C.11 While describing movements of the Sai-Wang (100 B.C.), the Chinese annals state that the Sai-Wang went towards the South and passing Hien-tu reached Ki-Pin.
Later Chinese travellers Fa-Hien (5th century A.D.) and Huen-Tsang (7th century A.D.) use a slightly modified term ‘Yintu’ but the affinity to ‘Hindu’ is still retained. This term ‘Yintu’ continues to be used till today
Labi-bin-e Akhtab bin-e Turfa who is dated 2300 years before Mohammed i.e. 1700 B.C. His poem also uses ‘Hind’ for India and ‘Hindu’ for Indian. The poem also mentions the four Vedas Sama, Yajur, Rig and Athar. This poem is quoted on columns in the Laxmi Narayan Mandir in New Delhi, popularly known as Birla Mandir (Temple)
Another doubt created by the modern day anglicized historian is that the term ‘Hindu’ is not found used in Sanskrit literature. This misconception can be dispelled by quoting from Sanskrit works15 : Meru tantra (es#rU=) (4th to 6th century A.D.), a Shaiva text, comments on ‘Hindu’.
Hindu is one who discards the mean and the ignoble.
The same idea is expressed in Shabda Kalpadruma.
Brihaspati Agam says,
Starting from Himalaya up to Indu waters is this God-created country Hindustan
Parijat Haran Natak describes Hindu as,
Hindu is one who with penance washes one’s sins and evil thoughts and with arms destroys one’s enemies.
Madhava Digvijaya states,
One who meditates on Omkar as the primeal sound, believes in karma & reincarnation, has reverence for the cow, who is devoted to Bharat, and abhors evil, is deserving of being called Hindu.
Vriddha Smriti defines Hindu as,
One who abhors the mean and the ignoble, and is of noblebearing, who reveres the Veda, the cow, and the deity, is a Hindu.
Similarly other Sanskrit works which use the term ‘Hindu’ are, Kalika Puran, Bhavishya Puran, Adbhut Kosh, Medini Kosh, Ram Kosh etc. Even Kalidas has used a derivative form ‘Haindava.’
‘Hindu’ and ‘Sindhu’
Another theory says that ‘Hindu’ originated from the Persian practice of replacing ‘S’ with ‘H’. This does not seem to be true is evident from the fact that Sindh has not become Hind and both Sindh and Hind exist in Persian as well as Arabic.
The inscriptions of Darius and Xerexes which describe India as Hi(n)du, also use the term ‘Sugd’ for Sogdiana. This ‘Sugd’ should have become ‘Hugd’ as per this theory. The Pahlvi inscription of Shahpur II, uses ‘S’ in Shakastan and Tuxaristan.
But it cannot be denied that Hindu is a form of Sindhu. It needs to be realised that this change from S to H is common in Saurashtra where Sorath becomes Horath, Somnath becomes Homnath and so on. The form Hindu is therefore, likely to have come from Saurashtra.
It should also be noted that as per…
@ X ,Ravi and others
Some scholars say so but i don’t know from where this sloka is …………………
What is the definition of a Hindu ? : Aa sindho: sinduparyantham yasya bhaaratha bhoomikaa maathru bhoo: pithru bhoo (punya) schaiva sa vai Hindu iti smruthaa: whomsoever, is considering the land between the sapta sindu ( Indus valley river) upto Indian ocean as the motherland/ fatherland and holy land, is known as Hindu. This land is known as Hindustanam which is defined as follows: Himaalayam samaarabhya yaavath hindu sarovaram tham deva nirmitham desam hindustaanam prachakshate. The land created by god himself and which is lying between Himalayas and Indian ocean is known as Hindustanam .
@ X ,Ravi and others
Some scholars say so but i don’t know from where this sloka is …………………
What is the definition of a Hindu ? : Aa sindho: sinduparyantham yasya bhaaratha bhoomikaa maathru bhoo: pithru bhoo (punya) schaiva sa vai Hindu iti smruthaa: whomsoever, is considering the land between the sapta sindu ( Indus valley river) upto Indian ocean as the motherland/ fatherland and holy land, is known as Hindu. This land is known as Hindustanam which is defined as follows: Himaalayam samaarabhya yaavath hindu sarovaram tham deva nirmitham desam hindustaanam prachakshate. The land created by god himself and which is lying between Himalayas and Indian ocean is known as Hindustanam .
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It seems that muslims love to say lies in front of others. Dear terrorist, before doing any claim, please make some research.
see this link – http://debunkingquranicscience.blogspot.in/2010/08/does-sun-orbit-earth-according-to-quran.html
this is what gravitation is according to quran. 21:33 does NOT prove anything of gravitation. It only explains that Sun, moon etc. move around the Earth. We acknowledge that moon moves around the Earth BUT Sun does NOT move around Earth. Further, linking day and night with motion of Sun and moon is bogus.
You are asking truth seeker of seeing GOD. I ask you – Are you able to see your own brain ? What is its size and its weight? Donot reply with what are these values for all humans in general. You only reply with what are this for your brain in particular. NOT able to see ? – this means that there is NO proof that you have brain. You dont have brain bcoz you cannot see that…
Even your Quran says that GOD cannot be seen (6:103). On which basis, you claim to see GOD or any resting place of prophets? That will be seen only on the day of judgement.
Let us assume that Quran really contain science. Now, you answer – WHY NO MUSLIM NOBEL LAUREATE IN PHYSICS? There was only 1 – Dr. Abdus Salaam who was named 1st muslim nobel laureate. When he died – word MUSLIM was removed from his grave. This is how you evil people respect science and a scientist.
EITHER YOU CAN BE A SCIENTIST OR YOU CAN BE A MUSLIM. YOU CANNOT BE BOTH.
Look at Israel, 23% Nobel Laureates in science are Jews. If those Jews say – we are scientific, that makes sense. But they don’t claim so – bcoz they are NOT brain dead like muslims.
poor hindus deleted my comments….looosers…..
ISLAM WILL NEVER FALL!!!
YOU TERRORISTS ARE JUST INTERESTED IN DEFAMING OTHERS. NOTHING ELSE IS KNOWN TO YOU EVIL ISLAMO – FASCIST.
IF SOMEONE IS REALLY INTERESTED IN DELETING YOUR COMMENT, HOW COME YOUR THIS COMMENT IS APPEARING? THIS IS THE PROOF THAT NO ONE DELETED YOUR COMMENT. THE FACT IS THAT YOU POSTED NONE AND ARE WRITING THIS JUST BECAUSE YOU WANT TO DEFAME POOR AND INNOCENT INFIDELS.
DRONE ATTACKS BY GR8 NATION USA AND GUNNED ATTACK BY GR8 NATION ISRAEL IS A SMALL SIGN OF HOW YOU TERRORISTS SHOULD BE TREATED. BOTH THE GR8 NATIONS USA AND ISRAEL ARE DOING THE RIGHT JOB BY KILLING THE MUSLIMS.
REGARDING HINDUS, I THINK THEY ARE FOOLISH BCOZ THEY ASSUME MUSLIMS ARE HUMANS. O IDIOTS! LEARN FROM USA + ISRAEL TO KNOW WHAT SHOULD BE DONE WITH A MUSLIM – A BORN EVIL.
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Hahaha well said. I admire Israel because despite being surrounded by Muslim countries they have held their own terrifically. Props to you guys.
very nice i was looking to refute these claims by muslims now it can be refuted
ISLAM KI SACCHAI 7- Then Allah’s Apostle returned with the Inspiration, his neck muscles twitching with
terror till he entered upon Khadija and said, “Cover me! Cover me!” They covered him till
his fear was over and then he said, “O Khadija, what is wrong with me?” Then he told her
everything that had happened and said, ‘I fear that something may happen to me.” Khadija
said, ‘Never! But have the glad tidings, for by Allah.
The “Kitab al-Tabaqat al-Kabir”, (Book of the Major Classes), by Ibn Sa’d, translated by
S. Moinal Haq, [4], page 225 has Muhammad saying: “O Khadija, I see light and hear sounds and I fear I am mad”.
Let’s further compare Muhammad’s experience with Biblical stories of men who
had experiences with God. Noah – Gen. 6. God speaks to Noah and tells him that He is going to destroy the earth. Noah does not panic, become depressed, or driven by fear. He knows that this God speaking to him,
and there is no need for rash action. Noah knows this is God, and Noah does not become
irrational. Noah knows that this God is not going to harm him. Abraham – Gen. 12 – 18. God speaks to Abraham. Abraham does not panic, Abraham is not bewildered, Abraham does not doubt or become depressed, Abraham believes and obeys. God visited
Abraham, yet neither he nor Sarah attempts any rash actions. Moses – Ex. 3 – 34 God appeared to Moses in the burning bush. Moses was afraid to look at God but Moses does not act paranoid. He knew that this God was not a God of terror. Moses did
not run back to his family frightened out of his mind. Moses did not become depressed
over the event, thinking he was possessed or bewitched. Instead, because Moses
personally experienced this God and knew he could trust this God, Moses knew and
obeyed. Isaiah – Isaiah 6 Isaiah had a powerful vision and experience of God. Yet he did not lose his mind, he was not driven by dread of God. He feared God because of the sin in his heart, and the
sinfulness of the people he dwelt among, but he did not panic. During this experience he
realized God had forgiven him and accepted him. Because he experienced the real God,
Isaiah did not attempt suicide or any other rash action. His mind was sound, he did not
need to have a “spirit” continue to sooth him. Mary – Luke 1. The real Gabriel also visited Mary. She too was perplexed and afraid. But during her experience with Gabriel, she gained confidence and strength. She knew God loved
her. She did not become irrational or depressed, and she did not run around frightened
out of her mind. She did not attempt suicide. Instead, because she experienced the living
God, she knew she was loved and accepted. She knew this God was real, and she had
nothing to fear. Jesus – Mark 1. When Jesus Christ began His ministry, He was baptized in water. The Holy Spirit descended upon Him. God spoke from heaven, and the people there heard God speak,
“This is my beloved Son, in Whom I am well pleased.” There were no panic attacks,
depression, or doubt.
ISLAM KI SACCHAI 8 –
The prophet of Islam committed SHIRK – he was a hypocrite – he made himself Allah’s partner! Read carefully….
O you who believe, obey Allah and His Messenger … ” (8:20) “Say: obey Allah and
obey the Messenger … ” (24:54) … “Obey Allah and the Messenger and perhaps you will
be shown mercy.” (3:132) “If you obey him, you will be guided … ” (24:54) “Whoever
obeys the Messenger has obeyed Allah … ” (4:79) “That what the Messenger brings you
and leave what he forbids you … ” (59:7) “Whoever obeys Allah and the Messenger is
with those whom Allah has blessed.” (4:68) “We did not send any Messenger but for him to be obeyed by the permission of Allah.” (4:63) … “Whoever obeys me has obeyed Allah. Whoever rebels against me has rebelled
against Allah. …” (Muslim and al Bukhari)Obeying the Messenger is part of obeying Allah
since Allah commands that he be obeyed. True obedience is obedience to Allah’s
command and therefore obedience to His Prophet. … In the hadith of Abu Hurayrah we find that the Prophet said, “All of my community
will enter the Garden except for those who refuse to.” They asked, “O Messenger of
Allah, who will refuse?” He replied, “Whoever obeys me will enter the Garden. Whoever
rebels against me has refused.” (Al Hakim) … “It is like someone who builds a house and lays out a fine feast in it and sends out a
summoner. Whoever does not answer the summoner does not enter the house and eat
from the feast.” (Muslim and al Bukhari)
Again read carefully…
“His the Kingdom of the Heavens and of the Earth! No son hath He begotten! No partner hath He in his Empire! ” Al-Koran, Surah XXV. “…when One God was proclaimed to you, ye believed not: but when partners had been united with him, ye believed…” Al-Koran, Surah XL. “…Verily, if thou join partners with God , vain shall be all thy work, and thyself shalt be of those who perish.” Al-Koran, Surah XXXIX. “SAY: Come, I will rehearse what your Lord hath made binding on youthat ye assign
not aught to Him as partner;” Al-Koran, Surah VI.
That Mohammad was a hopelessly confused moron – but at least he could blame his
delusions on mental illness and hallucinations.
ISLAM KI SACCHAI 9 – islam ka arth peace nahi hai,nahi tha aur nahi rahega.islam ka arth hai sharanagati.kuch akal ke diwane jaise batate hai islam=peace bebunuyad aur sabse bada jhuth hai.Islam=Submission,Salam=Well-being/Peace,(Derivation of Salama=The stinging of a snake or the tanning of theleather,Saleema=To be saved or to escape from danger(when refering to a female),Saleem=To be saved or to escape from danger(when refering to a male),Aslam=To submit,Istaslama=To surrender,Tasleem=To receive a salutationor becoming submitted
he root word of Islam
is “al-silm” which means “submission” or “surrender.”
It is understood to mean “submission to Allah.” In
spite of whatever noble intention has caused many a
Muslim to claim that Islam is derived primarily from peace, this is not true. Allah says in the Qur’an
(translated): [2:136] Say (O Muslims): We believe in Allah and
that which is revealed to us and that which was
revealed to Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and
Jacob, and the tribes, and that which Moses and
Jesus received, and that which the prophets
received from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and to Him we have
surrendered. [Arabic “Muslimoon”] A secondary root of Islam may be “Al-Salaam” (peace),
however the text of the Qur’an makes it clear that
Allah has clearly intended the focus of this way of life
to be submission to Him. This entails submission to
Him at all times, in times of peace, war, ease, or difficulty.Qur’an 5:3 says Islam is a deen (religion) Today, I have perfected your religion (dīn) for you; I
have completed My blessing upon you; I have
approved Islam for your religion Qur’an 5:3,Qur’an 3:19 says Islam is submission to Allah The Religion before Allah is Islam (submission to His
Will): Nor did the People of the Book dissent
therefrom except through envy of each other, after
knowledge had come to them. But if any deny the
Signs of Allah, Allah is swift in calling to account. Qur’an 3:19,
Wow, unbelievable – the 7 chariots of sun are reference to the 7 rays of light that make up the sunlight.
@Dara Singh
Namaste Sir,
“/Why Vedic Mantra have names of Different rishis/”
If you understand Hindi please go through this article
http://agniveerfans.wordpress.com/2011/09/24/vedic-rishi/
Be specific about how the link Truth Seeker gave does not answer your questions when it deals exactly with the question you have. So far you are just pasting the same question over and over again onto different threads.
hindus are retards the errors are quite obvious the statement sare direct and scientifically flawed so hindus give this words new meaning ti is equivalen to saying what is your name means i dont want to know your name
hindusim is filled with scientific errors the sun rotates the earth waht does that mean it symobolizes your wedding circling of the men and women?
@as saffah : Thanks for the info can you tell me where did you get the info to reach the said conclusion.Please refer to the exact Vedic Mantra.
I can see a lot of misinterpretations of vedas by muslims.My point is what is muslim’s qualification in sanskrit?There are two kinds of sanskrit.One is vedic and another is classical(Mastered and pioneered by panini).The vedic sanskrit was among a few only.From the advent of classical sanskrit,it has been the official and common language.the difference between vedic sanskrit and classical sanskrti is like the difference between Victorian english and american english.Moreover universities nowadays only teach classical sanskrit.Vedic sanskrit is taught only in veda patashalas.Does this mean the muslims who comment on vedas have studied in veda patashalas?Moreover no muslim has done even a diploma in Classical sanskrit,then how can they comment on vedas which were written in vedic sanskrit?This is a conclusive proof that people like Zakir are spreading the wrong messages about the vedas.Moreover I find even educated muslims believing this.If you use logic,you would question what is the source of muslim’s knowledge on vedas.
NOW IT IS YOU WHO IS RETARD BY BELIEVING THE TRANSLATIONS OF MUSLIMS .
Hahaha, Make some sense Pervert…. Our weddings happen systematically… When ever the word “Tradition” is used, India is the 1st country that comes into Peoples mind. That’s because of Hinduism. And Hinduism doesnt have any Terrorists…. This so called Brand is created by you people…. For no reason they kill people and you support them saying Your religion = Peace…. Very funny… Work on your own Flaws…. Then talk about others.
what about the immense errors in the quran?
hindus are retards the errors are quite obvious the statement sare direct and scientifically flawed so hindus give this words new meaning ti is equivalen to saying what is your name means i dont want to know your name
hindusim is filled with scientific errors the sun rotates the earth waht does that mean it symobolizes your wedding circling of the men and women?
Dude we have predicted every occurrence of a solar/lunar eclipse till date! Obviously we knew a long time ago since the beginning of the human age that the earth revolved around the sun. So your “Scientific error” is a myth.
just wondering is “Aryan” a blood type? or a way of life?
Well I’m a brahmin and people say Brahmins descend from Aryans. Hence I am supposed to believe that i have “Aryan Blood”. Kinda lame but the name looked pretty cool initially lolol
peace be up on u.
i am answering u about ur question somewhere u said that what about people before muhammed. wether they go to hell or heaven..
ans is: almighty sent messengers before mohammed and they will be judged accordingly.
i wish to ask u a question what about people in other parts other india … if all nine avathars where related to india what about other people ? … guide me if i am wrong…
even in this context i find answer in quran clear… they will be judged by rules given for them at their time…
@Aryan Blood : yes its lame. just to clear your confusion.
janmana jayate sudrah
samskarad bhaved dvijah
veda-pathad bhaved vipro
brahma janatiti brahmanah
“By birth one is a sudra (lowest caste), by the purificatory process one becomes a dvija (higher caste), by study of the Vedas one becomes a vipra, and one who knows Brahman is a brahmana.”
-Sastras
so by this.. see where do you stand.
@ “Aryan Blood” The only people who made the claim of there being an “aryan” race were Europeans and this was false. In India in Sanskrit in Sanatana Dharma “arya” is a character trait, noble, not a racial category. Max Mueller who used the word Sanskrit word “arya” in English “Aryan” used it to name a category of what he thought were related Western European and Indian languages. He NEVER intended to create a racial designation. Unfortunately Europeans did just that. “He was saddened by the fact that these later came to be expressed in racist terms, as this was far from his intention.[citation needed] For Müller the discovery of common Indian and European ancestry was a powerful argument against racism, arguing that “an ethnologist who speaks of Aryan race, Aryan blood, Aryan eyes and hair, is as great a sinner as a linguist who speaks of a dolichocephalic dictionary or a brachycephalic grammar” and that “the blackest Hindus represent an earlier stage of Aryan speech and thought than the fairest Scandinavians”.[18]” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_M%C3%BCller
Mueller could just as well picked any word in English or Sanskrit to call this group of languages that he lumped together.
Same thing with the English man Robert Caldwell who used the Sanskrit word (Dravida) to call a group of South Asian languages. That too had nothing to do with race.
@Ankur “Caste” is not the right word. It is Varna.
“By birth one is a sudra (lowest Varna), by the purificatory process one becomes a dvija (higher Varna), by study of the Vedas one becomes a vipra, and one who knows Brahman is a brahmana.”
-Sastras
@ Asif It is Karma. People are all working out their past karmas and creating new. It is not about God judging.
@Arun: Agreed… it is varna.
i was not aware of such a great religion… i was an atheist before did not knew many facts about SANATAN DHARM..<3 proud to be a Hindu…. thanks AGNIVEER for such a great articles about hinduism..:)
@Anti-Agni
I have not done anything wrong. Prophet also did sex with 6 years old girl at his 55. And if there is anything wrong Allah will forgive me because I worship Allah 5 times in a Day. There is no sin greater than non-worship of Allah. All great people like Gandhi, Einstein, Buddha, Newton etc. will in hell forever in spite of their great contribution to humanity because they were non-believer in prophet while Osama, Kasab, Afjal, Da-ud & people like me will in heaven because we are/were worshiper of Allah. Allah will forgive all sins of believers
@false slave/falsehood seeker,/aryasamaji snake, slave of moolshankar why you want confirmation from me? Do you consider me an authority in Islam? Or you have any doubt iabout your faith? If you have doubt then why are asking me ? You have the traditions of asking fatwa to satyagni then go to satyagni and ask and enjoy the agni of satya which will burn you into ashes. we can’t give you agni because we are not agni lover.
if you have any doubt about your zina and if you. have faith in me then my answer is you are zani and your punishment is stone to death so don’t repeat your question o rapist of your own daughter in law and and remember there is no law of adaption in Islam so any adapted xy can’t be any muslim’s son and his divorce cxx can’t be his daughter in law but you have not mentioned any adoption .
So what about all those people that lived before Mohammad came and founded Islam? Where did those people go?
@ Aryan,
Very recently I heard someone asking a Christian evangelist the same question – what about all the people who lived and died before Jesus? Did they go to hell or heaven? If they went to hell, they went there without any fault of their own and if they went to heaven then what was the need of Jesus/Bible?
The evangelist responded by stating that all those who lived and died before Jesus were in heaven and Jesus went to heaven to preach the Bible to them.
In another instance, a different evangelist when posed with the same question responded by saying that all of them went to hell but Jesus went to hell and brought them to heaven.
I must say here that these idiots are coming up with smart answers these days, wouldn’t you agree?
HAHAHAHAHAHA. you are right indeed Big Dipper.
These Christian evangelists are as hopeless as Zakir Naik. Clearly there are no provisions in the Bible and Islam for the existence of their respective religions before their holy books came up.
The Vedas on the other hand are sound. God’s(Brahman’s) own breath. And obviously sound has been present since the beginning of time. They are the truth of course. There are no scientific errors in the Vedas contrary to the belief of Islam and Christianity. For example, how were ancient Hindus able to predict the occurence of solar eclipses and lunar eclipses right to the exact second? Knowledge and our Vedic scriptures.
Forget science then.
There is no religion which talks about philosophy like Hinduism. What is the purpose of our existence? What is our goal? Why should we live? Etc..
Tell me where any of this is said in Islam and Christianity. NOWHERE.
Great Sir ‘JAKIR NAIK’. Thank you very much. Allah bless you.
very nice info and comments…..
@agniveer, i nearlly saw most of argument on religions.. and i seriously hurt when i learnt so much things about hinduism. I dont kwon if they r rite or wrong. And i want to kwo tru religion and folow it be it islam. Now i want u to look at website islamhinduism.com and answer their retrubals. Do this as soon as posible. Hope u save me. By profesion i m mbbs like dr zakir naik, but only by profesion. He he. By the way i m done wit this stuffs of religions. Hope u reply. Trurh will prevail. Jai shri krishna.
why are you being influenced by liars and biased people?
@bro, not a valid arguement. i m educated person. I think scientifically.so first go to that site and answer them. sorry for rudness. jai shri krishna.
we can not refute everybody that attacks hinduism we are first refuting liars like zakir naik and peace tv/IERA etc many have refuted that website when they use to come here now they dont come here becase they are scared and were refuted and they are not worth the time because they dont care abut truth they just delete comments if they really care about truth tell them to come here
by the way if you dont want to believe then dont hinduism wont force the most of eastern beliefs are ways of life while abrahamic beliefs are religions
DO you know many islamic sites gives dawah that they had made rebuttals of Ali Sina but none has dare to go and debate with him bcz everyone even great scholars ran away from the debate of Ali Sina (go and check the debate forum). so just making another site and called him rebuttals will does not make the problem solve,
they had made that site bcz of frustrations , even the team of that site has many times crushed here with the debate of agniveer teams .YOU said u are educated person and u think scientifically , then why u r not going to refute them , or u are not in the position that u can refute him scientifically . why u r totally biased on agniveer .
one thing i want to remind u that some latest articles on this site are rebuttals of that page, which u have not focus on it …
sorry if i offended any of you. i dont want to hurt feelings of anyone but i said i went thruth tat site and found valid thiings. i m educated tat doesnt mean i know best. yes im not in position to argue wit them tats why telling or requesting u to take luk at it. by the way i m not finding article here latest debunking them. pls provide link. n who is ali sina????? jai sri krishna.
they try to make it look valid most of the articles are just nonsense and are not worth taking time on they are just fantic muslims nothing else and ali sina is an ex muslim he and group of ex muslims have made a website called faithfreedom.org challenging all muslims to debunk them but no muslim has for the last 10 years he has had had debates with many muslim preachers/apologists and few scholors
Bro! You are educated. I just want to put forward a point. Analyze it and understand it.
I can see a lot of misinterpretations of vedas by muslims.My point is what is muslim’s qualification in sanskrit?There are two kinds of sanskrit.One is vedic and another is classical(Mastered and pioneered by panini).The vedic sanskrit was among a few only.From the advent of classical sanskrit,it has been the official and common language.the difference between vedic sanskrit and classical sanskrti is like the difference between Victorian english and american english.Moreover universities nowadays only teach classical sanskrit.Vedic sanskrit is taught only in veda patashalas.Does this mean the muslims who comment on vedas have studied in veda patashalas?Moreover no muslim has done even a diploma in Classical sanskrit,then how can they comment on vedas which were written in vedic sanskrit?This is a conclusive proof that people like Zakir are spreading the wrong messages about the vedas.Moreover I find even educated muslims believing this.If you use logic,you would question what is the source of muslim’s knowledge on vedas.
See! I have been learning Sanskrit for over 10 years and my knowledge is like a drop of water in the mighty ocean . Just think how those muslims who Claim to be Scholars learnt Sanskrit ??
Even I was first fooled by their claims until I visited Agniveer.com
Satyameva Jayate!!
hey brother very true the reason why zakir naik and his peace tv team have been able to convert some ignorant hindus is because zakir naik has gained fame by comong on news channels,having his own channels and also cause he claims he is medical doctor which i doubt he is very clever in the way he claims to answers questions of the audience and try to make himself look like he knows everything about other beliefs but he doesnt much espically not about the eastern beliefs he may have some knowledge with the abrahamic beliefs as they are all similar with only some differences
@agniveer. ples refer to site islamhinduism.com. asap. vishnu is only god and krisha is his avtar and only messenger. he he. jsi sri krishna. pls give ur coment. i m mbbs like dr zakir naik but by profesion only. he he. om namah shivay.
“The minutest particle of matter that cannot be divided any further is called a Paramaanu (atom). 60 Paramaanus make one Anu (molecule)”.as per agniveer recommendation i went throught a “light of truth ” ebook…
isnt that statement wrong atoms can be split further like protons electrons neutrons..clarify me this ..tw i downloaded from agniveer.com
These confusions are obvious when we have tranliterations of concepts that are not supported across languages.
Paramanu is not equal to Atom
and Anu is not equal to molecule.
they are different measures of particles and they do not have an equivalent in English
. Paramanu is a particle that cannot be further subdivided.
The beauty of Hinduism is that it propagates open and liberal thinking. One may believe in formless god and is a Hindu or may believe in God in some definite form, but is Hindu. This much of flexibility is unparallel. This is the reason ancient Indian civilisation rose to the greatest heights.
The know international universties like Nalanda, Vikramsila and Taxila were located in India and offcourse not in Arabia.
If Hinduism is understood in true sense, all other religions seem dwarf! And there is no need to prove that Hinduism has all the beauties of all the religions. Because Hinduism is not limited by an obsolete and obnoxious book!
So far as Islam is concerned, if one visits http://www.faithfreedom .org and studies the articles with some patience, the true colour of this religion comes out!
dear agniveer or anyone else, jus t 1 quesytion :
Also earth is not the only place to have life. There are innumerable earths in universe and souls keep moving from one to another as per their deeds.
by innumerable what type of figure do u mean? like theres something like trillions and trillions of earths i the universe? please enlighten.
could we say that how many grains of sand there are on earth is representative of how many earths/solar systems there are? thanks
In Wikipedia, I had put up the medicinal value of distilled cow urine (with proper references to scientific journals) and links to US/UK patents, but the content was vandalized by some anti-hindu people.
Here’s the old page with all the references:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cow_urine&oldid=419850305
@Prasad
Thankx a lot. I was always searching for the fact on Gaumutra.
By the way, people often forget how cow dung is useful in farming.
Also, brilliant article. I laughed SO hard at that video because he had the guts to say the truth in everyone’s face, and no one could say anything. But this website is smart. Love it. Keep up the good work.
main aap logo ko islam ki dawat de raha hu chale aao islam ki taraf wahisahi rah hai aise tm batak rhe ho,islam me aao to sab samjh aa jayega sab sahi lagege aap ko bhi aise hi nahi hamre purwaj islam me dakhil hue hai kuch na kuch to unhone dekha hoga achai islam me aa jao mere dosto islam hi sacha daram hai
@Meraj
May Allah bless you for this noble work!
manniy sri meraj ji balaiye kaun sa islam kabul kiya jaye shiya muslim vala ahamdi muslim vala bohara muslim devbandi muslim barelvi muslim ahale hadees ya ahale kuran adi ? jara sabse pahale alisena v valo ko to muslim banva lo baad me kuch yahaan par kahiyega ! kuran ke naam par jo islami atankvadi kai lakh begunah manushyo ki hatya kar rahe hai jara unko to rok lijiye ? batlaiye islam me kaun se buniyadi sachhai hai jo islam kokabul kiya jaye ? batlaiye kuran me 5 bar namaz ka jikar kaun si ayat karti hai ? karib 6000 se jyada kuran me ayte hai lekin 5 bar namaz padhne ka hukm kurani allah dene se hi bhul gaya ? 124000 nabiyo ki lisht kis islami kitabme hai ya jhuthi gappabaji ki jati hai ! khatna karvane ka jikar kuran ki kis ayat me hai ! aap muslim kahate hai ki allah ho akbar yani allah sabse bada hai batlaiye chota kaun hai ?bada to tabhi koi hoga jab koi chota hoga ? jara in bato ka javab dijiye fir soch jaye ki islam ko kaise kabul kare ?
@meraj :April 6, 2013 at 2:22 pm
Which one you are calling for ? sia ? sunni ? ahmadia ?
Does your religious website give speech of freedom as Agniveer ?
Can I go to any islamic website and ask people to join Veda teachings ?
Can you name a single invention done by Islamic people that actually changed the world ?
I tell you, its only Jihad and terrorism.
Maths, Physics, Chemistry, and lot more was given by ‘Bharat’ and now we(you and me) have to be dependent on western inventions.
Make a list of things you use everyday, at least that will make you realize how your entire lifestyle is dependent on kafirs.
Yes! bro,
even I have challenged many muslims and have proved that even without Islam/Quran/Musilms
the humanity would have survived and I have proved that Islam has not contributed any new discovery that was not given in the vedas. Even without islam the mankind would have progressed(at much faster rate) considering the havoc done by islamic invasions
@aditya
This is how nature works. Our ancestors made a big mistake by creating the cast system(Jatiwaad) and now this is what we have got.
I can bow down to Agniveer anywhere anyplace for doing a such a great effort for humanity.
You are absolutely correct. We have to abolish the cast system. Only the deserving should be called as Brahamins.
The problem of using the Portuguses word caste is that it mixes different concepts – Varna, jati, and inherited class status.
Varna is non-hereditary. There is no problem with this.
Jati is community and this is a healthy part of diversity. It is a blessing to have many communities with their own languages, dialects, unique customs, traditions, religions. There is no problem with this either.
It is inherited class status that needs to go. You cannot get rid of different classes but you can make them fluid and non-hereditary, something based on merit. Europe and Middle East and Other places have their own cast system – royalty and aristocracy. What needs to go is inherited class status.
@ Jin
Very well said, if all kafirs p!ss on them then they won’t even be worth selling A55 amongst themselves
@ Meeraj
Dost, Islam ne jo dawat hum hindustaniyo ko di thi usse hi humare bahut se bhaiyo ko dharam ka overdose mila badhazmi hui . Aaj bhai bhai ki jaan lene par utaru hai. Ye Muslim raja, rana, malik, jutt, chaudhari, patel, butt wagairah jo kabhi hindu hi the apne hi hindu bhaiyo ko nahi pehchante. Isliye mai aapko “sanatan arya dharma” ki dawat deta hu jo “vasundhaiv kutumbkam” aur humanity me vishwas karta hai. Aap log is desh par hamla karne wale arbo ke religion ke ghulam kyu bane hue hai ? Laut ayie apne bujurgo ke dharma me. Let us unite once again.
Ishwar, Allah sab ek hi hai. Hume iswar/allah ko pane ke liye kisi prophet, baba ya agent ki jarurat nahi hai. hum khud agar prayas kare to Ishwar se jud sakte hai. Ishwar/Allah ko pane ke liye hume kisi bichaauliye ki jarurat nahi hai. Hum sanatan dharma ke manne wale bhi ek sachche ishwar/parmatma me vishwas karte hai( eko aham dwitiyo nasti). Isliye hume aapke sahada ke pahle line “la ilaha illallah” bolne me koi dikkat nahi hai lekin hum sahada ki dusri line(muhammadur rasul allah) me believe nahi karte.
plz ppl!!……..Islam iz the best religion to follow, it has the solution to all our problems, theze 2nd hand scientific quotes would prove nothing!!!, hinduism doesn’t has the solution to all of our problems, but Islam certainly has the solution to ur every problem! just try to read and understand the holy Quran
adarniy shri hamza ji bahut khub! kisne kaha diya islam ko dharm hai! vah to keval satta ke sangharsh karne ke tarke hai ! ek khuda ki “narebaji” se kaam nahi chala karta ! khuda ki quality bhi dekhni chahiye! dekhe quran38/75 jisme qurai allah apne “dono hatho” se adam ji ko banane ka dava karet hai ! dekhe quran39/67 jisme qurani allah asmaan ko “daye hath” me lapetne ka dava karte hai ! kya qurani allah ke dono haath hai batlaiye kis mata ji ke garbh me in hatho ka nirman hua tha ? satve asmanme me farishto dvara uthaye huye singhasan me virajman qurani allah bhi simit kyo nahi kah jayega jab faoshte simit hai aursinghasan bhi simit hai tab qurani allah bhi simit kyo nahi hoga! jo simit ho vah itni badi kaaynaat bhi kaise bana sakta hai? dekhe quran 2/62 jisme isai v yahudi adiko muhammad ji ko rasul manna bhi anivary nahi kaha gaya hai ! dekhe quran 2/65 v 5/60 jisme qurani allah kisingirohko jara si nafarmani karne par bandar v sura bana dete hai ! batlaiye aaj bhi sansar me 5 arab se jyada log quran ko nahi mante hai tab batlaiye kitne logo ko unhone janwarbana diya ? fir yah kahani bhi jhuthi kyo nahii mani jaye/ kya qurani alalh jki nafarmani ka dand dene ki taseer [gun]samapt ho gayi hai ? dekhe quran 2/66 -73 ek vishesh gaay ki hatya karke ek hatyare ka pata lagane ka tarika khoja gaya hai ! yah “tarika ” ab kyo samapt ho gaya hai / kya islami desho me kisi hatyareka pata rajy karmchari lagate hai ya gaay ki hatya karke pata kiya jata hai fir is kahani ko bhi jhutha kyo n samajha jaye ! jis quran me jhuthi kahaniya ho us par iman bhi kyo laya jaye? samajhdar muslim ,padhe likhe muslim, manvta vadi muslimo ko chahiye ki turant quran ki sangati chod de isme jyada samajhdari kahalayi jayegi !
Islam has solved no problem in even Islamic countries which are the ones where there is the least freedom of speech, freedom of the press, religious tolerance, innovation, gender equality, education.
This is written by an Arab Muslim
“…For years the sheiks of the Islamist movements have been promising us that “Islam is the solution.” Now those unsuccessful, destructive Islamist movements are worsening conditions in the countries they took over, often by force, and could bring about the failure of Islam itself. That might even lead, Allah forbid, to the weakening of the faith of despairing true believers….” http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3649/back-to-jahiliyya
This is one honest Arab Muslim
“…Clearly, the root of the problem is the radical Islamists’ overwhelming jealousy of the achievements of the West. Comparing what the West has done to what contemporary Islam has done has thrown them into despair. The knowledge that Muslim countries will never be able to close the cultural, economic and technological gap between them and the West endangers the radical Islamist claim of the superiority of Islam and Muslims. Radical Islamist activists hate, fear and are jealous of the West because of its prosperity, success and progress.
The achievements of those referred to by the radical Islamists as infidels, when compared to the colossal failure of our Islam in every sphere of life — and the fact that for centuries Islam has been incapable of making the smallest contribution to the world, concentrating instead on terrorism and bloodshed — has created an unbearable contradiction. …”