- Manu Smriti and Shudras
- Manu Smriti and Punishment
- Manu Smriti and Women
- Understanding Manu Smriti
In this brief article, we shall review the second popular allegation on Maharshi Manu – that he legalized harsh punishments for Shudras and special penal provisions for upper-castes and especially Brahmins.
As we have reviewed in previous article http://agniveer.com/3308/manu-smriti-and-shudras, around 1471 out of 2685 shlokas have been proven to be later adulterations.
Thus all those shlokas that recommend special provisions for upper-castes and harsher punishments for Shudras are part of these bogus adulterations that are very easily identifiable.
If we review the original Manu Smriti, that is based on Vedas, the situation is completely opposite. As per Manu, penal system takes into account the education, social influence, designation, nature of crime and impact of crime while recommending punishments.
Manu offers greater respect and status to Brahmins – the educated ones. Dwijas or twice born or those who completed their education are provided heightened standing in society so far they conduct noble deeds. But when it comes to crimes, they also have to face more severe punishments. With greater potentials, come greater responsibilities and stricter punishments when one fails to fulfill those responsibilities.
(Here, I would like to emphasize once again that Brahmin or Dwija has nothing to do with birth. Its all about education.)
If such a penal code be adopted in our nation, bulk of the crimes and corruptions would cease to exist and politics will become a field where any Tom, Dick or Harry does not dare to enter and pollute like it is happening today.
For a more detailed coverage, please refer Chapter 6 of Satyarth Prakash or Light of Truth by Swami Dayanand Saraswati which is available at http://agniveer.com/2037/satyarth-prakash/ and http://agniveer.com/2092/light-of-truth/
Also review Chapter 8,9 and 10 of Manu Smriti edited by Dr Surendra Kumar (Aarsh Sahitya Prachar Trust, Delhi)
We reproduce a few shlokas that are relevant in the current discussion.
8.335: Be it the father, mother, teacher, friend, wife, son or priest, one who conducts a crime is punishable by the ruler.
8.336: When the punishment for an ordinary citizen is 1 cent, the punishment for those in ruling class should be 1000 cents. In other words, the punishment for those in legislation, executive or judiciary should be 1000 times that for ordinary citizens.
The concept of immunity to MPs and Judges from impeachment and legal framework is shamelessly against Manu Smriti.
Swami Dayanand adds here – Even a peon in any department of government should have a punishment that is 8 times that for ordinary citizens. And all other office bearers should have a punishment proportionate to their designation till it is 1000 times for the topmost designation. Because unless government officials have a punishment that is significantly harsher compared to ordinary citizens, the government would destroy the public. Just as taming a lion demands harsher control and a goat much lesser control, similarly to ensure safety of public, government officials should have extremely harsh punishments.
Deviation from this penal code is the root cause of all these corruption stories. Unless this is rectified, all other efforts to transform the nation would fall flat.
8.337-338: If one conducts a theft willingly and in full senses knowing the implications, he should be penalized 8 times that of ordinary thief if he is a Shudra. The penalty should be 16 times if he is a Vaishya, 32 times if he is a Kshatriya and 64 times if he is a Brahmin. The punishment can be even 100 times or 128 times if he is a Brahmin. In other words, the punishment should be directly proportional to knowledge and social status of the criminal.
Thus contrary to popular perceptions, when it comes to punishments, Manu Smriti is most lenient on Shudras because of their lack of education, significantly harsher on Brahmins and harshest on the government officials. In current context, the Prime Minister, Chief Minister, Chief Justice, Leaders of National Political Parties deserve harshest punishments if they do something wrong. The Ministers, MPs, MLAs, Governors, Judges come the next. Then comes the turn of Bureaucrats and Government Officials. And even a peon of a Government Department deserves much harsher punishment compared to ordinary citizens.
Among ordinary citizens, the educated class and those with influential social status who neglect their duties deserve harsher punishments.
As we said, with greater responsibilities come greater punishments. This is the real penal system of Manu Smriti.
And if so-called birth based Brahmins indeed want to claim supremacy over so-called birth-based Shudras, then they should also be ready to accept stricter punishments for themselves. Most birth-based Brahmins do not know about Vedas. Now Manu says that those Brahmins who put efforts in other areas except Vedas are Shudras. Refer 2.168. This is insult to Brahmins. As per fake verses of Manu Smriti, the minimal repentance for harming a Brahmin even verbally is to remain hungry for a day (11.204 as per fake Manu Smriti). Thus, those who claim birth-right to Brahminism based on fake verses of Manu Smriti should remain hungry for at least 64 days continuously unless they are masters of Vedas and completely free of any vices including harsh language! (Punishment for Brahmins is 64 – 128 times that of ordinary mortals).
You cannot have “Heads I win and Tails you lose”. Either be logical and honest, follow the real Manu Smriti and reject birth-based caste-system totally OR be prepared for a minimum of 64 days hunger strike until you master Vedas. And then continue the strike for another 64 days if you still do not master Vedas in 64 days!
The bottomline is that birth-based caste system does not even vaguely fit in Manu’s scheme of society. Those who support it or recommend special treatment of birth-based Brahmins in matters of punishments are shamelessly against Manu, Vedas and humanity in general. And as per Manu, such persons who cause harm to society deserve extremely severe punishments.
The notion of Shudras deserving harsher punishments is simply a hoax.
May we all adopt the penal system proposed by Manu Smriti to save the nation from claws of corrupt politicians, judiciary and other pseudo-intellectuals.
Manusmriti 7.17-20:
A powerful and rational penal system (Dand) is the true ruler. Dand is the propagator of Justice. Dand is the discipliner. Dand is the administrator. Dand alone protects the 4 Varnas and 4 Phases of life.
Dand protects the public and Dand keeps the nation awakened. That is why wise people proclaim that Dand is the Dharma.
When Dand is used with wisdom and responsibility, it brings prosperity and bliss among public. And when Dand is used recklessly, it destroys the ruler.
It seems that time has come that the corrupt leaders and officials are destroyed because they have misused the Dand a bit too much! Its also time that we use Dand to punish those who support birth-based discrimination in any manner.
This alone can save society, nation and humanity. There is no other way!
References: Works of Dr Surendra Kumar, Pt Gangaprasad Updhyaya, and Swami Dayanand Saraswati


Good one! Muslim and Christian terrorists who accuse Hinduism of discriminatory caste system should support:
(a)rejection of birth-based caste system.
That is infinitely worse than man-made caste system.
(b)reinterpretation of their own religion which specializes in divine discrimination – heaven for believers, hell for nonbelievers
Oh Christians and Muslims – please come out and say mere belief in exclusive prophethood of Jesus/Mohammed guaranteeing heaven is infinitely more distasteful than man-made caste system as prevalent in Hindu society.
Brother KalBhairav
I am sure you will go empty handed from this thread too just like all previous ones
Its too much you are demanding from Jihadis to be honest and truthful.
@Vajra:
Its too much you are demanding from Jihadis to be honest and truthful.
Indeed
No Muslim/Christian seems willing to accept that their God is discriminative. If I dont believe in the exclusivity of their respective prophets I am automatically hell-bound. If that is not discrimination I dont know what is.
Are Rama/Krishna/Zoroaster/Confucius/Guru Nanak/Buddha/Mahaveer and their messages all fake and trash-worthy? It would appear so from the Bible/Quran.
@All Muslim Brother/Scholars
There is a lot of hue-cry on prophet. There are tall claims on Mohamd discoveries. But I could not get answer to a simple question that what special Mohamad discover which was not mention in earlier scripture Veda? I have read long debate over the prophecy of Mohamad but no one have provide the information what Mohamad discovered different from Veda. If anybody can me answer I will be thankful to him.
@ truth seeker mohammad did not discover any thing new……. he was told by allha abt embrology. water cycle & many more ….. he didnt said new thing but he authenticate d old thing like oneness of god like ur vedha said ……. which ur shri shri Ravi Shanker also agreed…. hope u’ll also……. ..Allha Hu Akbar …….
@kal Bhairav
, so sad of me
, i m really broken into pieces
, also Mr Kal Bhairav if you are a true peson who believes in vedas , please change ur lovely name as it represents “the fierce manifestation of Shiva associated with annihilation. He is one of the most important deities of Rajasthan and Nepal, sacred to Hindus and Buddhists alike:( which is an idol , see ur self then comment on others
everything is thrash worhty except your true vedic relegion
Namaste Agniveer Ji,
Great information you are providing, we are thankful to you. Sir, I have a query regarding manu Smiriti I am asking it you because you have perhaps read all Manu Smiriti. There is a belief in society & I have also listened from a scholar of Ramayan that Raja Dasrath & kaushlaya were Manu & Satrupa in their previous birth. They did Tapasya and got the Vardan from God that God would take birth in their house in their next birth As Lord Rama. I know this adulteration, misconception & against the Veda . But if we take even adulterated Manu Smiriti such things are mentioned in it or not? Although I am sure it is 100% false & even in adulterated Manu Smiriti such events are not mentioned. Your view please.
@Muslim Scholar
Q Where Osama will go after death is it hell or heaven? As you all would be aware Osama bin Landen killed by America.
Q. How many virgin will be served to Osama by Allah?
Q. If a Jihadi killed a kufr he get 72 virgin in heaven but in case of Osama he killed thousand of Kufr all across the world, so how many Vargin Allah will provide him. If number is same this is injustice of Allah & why this injustice?.
Q. Should Muslim organization issued a Fatwa on Pakistan because it could not give proper safety to Jihadi like Osama Bin Laden?
Please write a article on Osama-Bin-Laden and his life in janat after death according to Pious Kuran?
@ truth seeker … Salamalaikom bro …i thought u have study & understand quran more than me but i’m so shocked to see this comment on terrorist oshama bin laden….. you r also one of copier like ur friend said …… i bit u didn’t read quaran coz only fool can say this type of comment after understanding the holy quaran… oshama obviously #1 guest of hell & he’ll b put in fire……. coz he didnt follow d rule of jihad…… jihad means work hard not 4 personal fight ………. islam does not teach kill innocent people plz read quaran abt war….. laden is terrorist & black sheep of Muslim….. hope ur misconception abt muslim was clear…
Namaskaar ,
“The punishment should be directly proportional to knowledge and social status of the criminal. ”
Simple and LOGICAL .
Also we must not forget “Dharmo Rakshti Rakshitah.” ( – Manusruti.)
Lot of peoples forgot this , and it is creating the problems of converting , problems before our Bharat . , other problems .
We must give high respect to manusruti to make our Dharma and Bharat stronger.
Dhanyavaad.
aha …!!
i am totally speechless on the excellent system for punishment in ManuSmriti.
the point that stricter punishment for the more knowledgeable one, is clearly very good and makes me feel that should be in an ideal system. i hope indian goverment also reads manu smriti.
i am so happy to see this article. i think this theory can easily eradicate our society from evils of caste system but the problem is our leaders and politicians and dalits also because they don’t want to be called equal to others that may harm their interests.Why to call them dalit or anything else lets all move towards a more spritual life .Let Dalits come forward and struglle to eradicate this word dalit. The punishments suggestd is absolutely right and justified . Politicians shud get more sever punishments and people of high social status also……
” avidhom shchiva vidoscha brahmano divatham “(narada smrithi 9:317)
“A brahmin, whether he scholar or madman, believe that he is god”
” dushelo pi dhijo pujanitho shudro jidendriya “(parashra smrithi 8:33)
“a brhmin Butcher is better than scholar shudra ”
“A Brahmin equal to god, they must forcefully suppress the lower cast people make them their slaves” (manusmrithi 9:317)
” shakthanopi hishudrana na karyo dhan sanjaya “(manusmrithi 10:129)
“shudra no right to education (Veda) and earn money”
” visrabdham brahmana srudad dravyo padanama charathe nahi thasyakthi kinjith swom barthey harodhanohisa “(manusmrithi 8:417)
“If they (shudra) have any asset, Brahmin must forcefully recapture the entire asset from shudra”
“If shudra talk against the Brahmin suddenly cut his Tongue, if he try to beat (action is enough) to Brahmin by his hand or leg, Brahmin suddenly cut that (hand or leg) body part as soon as possible “(manusmrithi 8:279-283)
golwaker says about manusmrithi “this is the social law that world ever and never saw like that. None of principle likes it.”
(Golwaker: From the Red fort grounds)
From bagavath geethaKrishnasays that”i create four castes for different quality and duty. ” chathur varnyam maya srishtom guna karma vibagasha “(bagvath geetha 4:13)
Krishnasays “different cast have different duty “(bagvath geetha 8:41-45)
“When a Brahmin killed the shudra jailed him one year and 12 cow penalty. But in case of shruda killed the Brahmin punishment was different killed him three short period with fire”
(gowthama dharmasuthram Ibid page-95)
“The Hindu Veda and Upanishath never give permission to shudra, women and other low cast Hindu, to prey temple and study the Veda and science”
(Indian Express 4-4-1988)
“If a shudra walking with Brahmin, beat him with scourge. if he steal kill him(punishment of Brahmin only bind his eye with cloth one or two hours).if he have desire to sexual affection with Brahmin girl, first cut his sexual organ, then capture his asset, then kill him. If he hearing the Veda captures him, cut the Tongue, pour the melted lead to his ear. ”
(Swami krishnanada: aparthed system inIndiapage 93-95)
NB:These verses indicate that ‘Brahmin’ is not belongs to his ‘karma’, it belongs to his ‘janma’.we can see from Upanishad “born Brahmin yoni” and “born shudra yoni”.
Hindu religious scriptures, however, do give out the call to violence and injustice. For instance, in the Kaushithaki Brahmanopanishad Indran is quoted as saying, “Na’Mathravadena na Pithravadena nasthayena na broona hathys nasya paapam chana chakrasho mukaneelam vetheethi (3:1)
(Even if my people were to kill their mother and father; even if they were to steal and to practice infanticide; even if they were to commit such sins, they are to feel no remorse. Their faces should never be down-cast)
During the period of Ramayana Brahmin never died their lives. A Brahmin visits thepalaceofRama; his complaint was that his son died. Raman discuss his pundit acharya,they know that a shudra(Shambukan)Penance for getting heven.Raman cut his head at mean time Brahmin boy got his life.
What we saw from the story is Raman was an ideal person?
There is nothing that is despicable in the legal prescription
Of the Qur’an. However, in some of the other religious scriptures there is a clear distinction between a person of a higher caste and another of a lower caste. For example, consider the punishment prescribed by the Manu Smrithi for insult and abuse: “ The punishment for the Kshatriya who insults the Brahman is one hundred coins; for the Vaishya it will be two hundred coins and for the Shudra it will be the whip. If the Brahman were to insult the Kshatriya his punishment would be fifty coins, if he insults the vaishya it would be twenty five coins and if the Shudra, twelve coins ”
(Manu Smrithi 8:267, 268)
Slavery existed in ancient India as a part of the rigid caste system that prevailed here. The caste system which originated as a result of the hegemony of priesthood continued to be an essential part and way of life of Hinduism. It is in the Rig Veda which is accepted as the most important of the Shrutis that we find the first seeds of the concept of caste system. (Purusha verse of the Rig Veda 10:90:12).It was but natural that under the caste system that was based on the reference in the Rig Veda that “the Brahman is created from the head, the Vaishya from the hands and the Sudra from the feet of the Parampurusha”,
the Brahman was considered highly and the Sudra of a lowly stature. All the books of Hinduism have only sought to justify the caste system.
The Bhagavath Gita, which is known to be the book of shruthi of modern Hinduism, has itself said: “Chaturvarnyam Mayasrishtam guna karma Vibagusha
” (4:13). this means that, “I have created the four castes according to the division of their deeds.” It was natural then that the one who was created from the feet of God was destined to a life of foot-service alone. Indeed, it was believed that the sudra was specially created for the very purpose of service alone. The religious scriptures had taught that one is born of a lower caste owing to the sins of an earlier life and that if one is to attain salvation at least in the next life, he is to render service to those of the higher castes and employ himself in keeping them satisfied in this life.“Shreyan swdarmo viguna para dermal swanushtithal swdarmea nidanam shreya paradarmo bayavaha” (bagavath geetha 3:35). The Chandoupanishad has compared those of the lower caste to pigs
And dogs. From the Upanishath we can understand that ‘chandalan’ and ‘shudra’are equal to street dogs. (Chandokya Upanishath 5:10:7). A reading of the Manusmrithi and the Parasharasmrithi will serve to show that the attitude and conduit adopted towards them was crueler and wicked than that shown to the animals.
Observe the punishment prescribed by the Apasthamba Dharma Sutra:“The Sudra who kills a Brahman must be burnt to death slowly by immersing him thrice in fire. However, if a Sudra is killed by any, it would be sufficient to award one year imprisonment and a fine of twelve cows as penalty.” (As quoted by Krishnananda Swami in ‘The Caste-Wars inIndia’, P.94)
All the laws in the ManuSmrithi are, in their formulation, based on the caste system. This deplorable tendency is evident throughout the laws which sanctify the position of the Brahman while, at the same time, debase that of the Sudra.Wide disparity exists in the punishment prescribed for a
Brahman who commits a crime and the punishment for a Sudra who commits the similar one. Briefly then, these laws were not framed for the whole of humanity; they are meant for a society wherein caste system prevails.
manu smriti available today is biased and interpolated… to above verses you show are abrogated ones… for showing the correct stand of manu smriti acc. to original manusmriti above articles have been written!!
@Shabbir,
Nice one brother i really appreciate ur answers to these people
Stop insulting peoples religious believes! If you feel that Hindus are starting religious tensions by telling the truth about our faith and dispelling myths laid down by muslims and christians then you should also be aware that the muslims and christians are the ones who went around corrupting the text, one fine example is the version of our Holy text Shabbir stated above. This is the classic example of what christian and muslim bigots did when they ruled India. The truth is known to the world and everybody condemns christians and muslims for their action, not to mention the slaughter of Hindus and looting of India. When christians and muslims desecrate our Holy sites,text and convert our people its okay but when we respond we are accused of being radicals. christian missionaries fund rebel groups just so they can establish their hogwash religion. The world knows what christianity and islam is all about that’s why people are deserting these religion and opting for the Dharmic religions. Go get a reality check!!!
Jai Shri Ram
@samantha francis,
the translations are picked up from texts which hindus themselves dont read. But any way you will appreciate all your momin brothers acts/answers be it either polygamy/paedophilia, stoning of women, hijab(people will be safe in prisions isn it!) and lastly killing a person by declaring wajib ul qatal.
Stop insulting peoples religious believes! If you feel that Hindus are starting religious tensions by telling the truth about our faith and dispelling myths laid down by muslims and christians then you should also be aware that the muslims and christians are the ones who went around corrupting the text, one fine example is the version of our Holy text Shabbir stated above. This is the classic example of what christian and muslim bigots did when they ruled India. The truth is known to the world and everybody condemns christians and muslims for their action, not to mention the slaughter of Hindus and looting of India. When christians and muslims desecrate our Holy sites,text and convert our people its okay but when we respond we are accused of being radicals. christian missionaries fund rebel groups just so they can establish their hogwash religion. The world knows what christianity and islam is all about that’s why people are deserting these religion and opting for the Dharmic religions. Go get a reality check!!!
Jai Shri Ram
What is Myth ? U people think first about this.
–noun
1. a traditional or legendary story, usually concerning some being or hero or event, with or without a determinable basis of fact or a natural explanation, especially one that is concerned with deities or demigods and explains some practice, rite, or phenomenon of nature.
2. stories or matter of this kind: realm of myth.
3. any invented story, idea, or concept: His account of the event is pure myth.
aadarneey agniveer ji maine manusmriti ka vastvik vishleshn padha. kya dr. surendrkumar ji dwara rachit prakshep viheen manu smriti hindi mein bhi hai. main use kharidana chahta hoon. mujhe is granth ko tatkal kharidkar adhyayn karna aur samaj mein vyapt iske virudh bhrantiyon ko door karne ka pryas shuru karana hai, kyoki main usi samajik privesh mein hoon jahan manusmriti ka ghor virodh ho raha hai. bharteey sabhyata aur sanskriti ko punh sthapit karne ke liye jaroor pryas karoonga chahe vah samudra ke samne ek bood ke brabar hi kyon n ho. plz reply
सुरेन्द्र कुमारजी द्वारा भाषित मनुस्मृति हिंदी में ही है. यह दो संस्करण में उपलब्ध है – एक में केवल विशुद्ध श्लोकों को समाविष्ट किया गया है. दूसरे में सभी श्लोक उपलब्ध हैं किन्तु प्रक्षिप्त श्लोकों का विश्लेषण किया गया है. आप ये पुस्तकें http://www.vedicbooks.com से प्राप्त कर सकते हैं. समस्या हो तो ईमेल द्वारा हमसे संपर्क करें.
प्रबंधक
अग्निवीर
manniy om prkash ji , arsh sahitya prachar trasht 455 khari bavli dilli- 6 se bhi vishuddh manusmriti mil sakti hai ! aap chahe to to vahan bhi sampark kar sakte hai !
I thought i would get reply from Moderator about the Myth above.
Mythology is a collection of myths, or the study of them.
Namaste Harish (who unfortunately converted to Bilal)
Please let us know first why you are so interested in the word “myth”!
Anyway, to cut the answer short, I must tell that believing in breaking the moon, a virgin giving birth to baby, weeping of stones, flying donkey of Muhammad in Shab e Meraj etc can be termed as MYTH!
I would like to know the motivation behind your conversion to Islam. We all will be very happly to see you back in your original home of Vedas.
Thanks
Who told you that believing in breaking the moon, a virgin giving birth to baby, weeping of stones, flying donkey of Muhammad in Shab e Meraj etc can be termed as MYTH. It’s a real fact.
Finding what the truth is, is the motivation behind embracing Islam, I am the revert ( not convert).
I guess you know very well that their are four stages of life according to vedas. Brahmachari (student), Grihasta (Householder) Vanaprasta (forest dweller or Hermit in semi retirement) Sannyasi (the renounced one in full retirement). Just wanted to put you a question, if you are a follower Vedas, are you following the above satages ? if so which stage r u in ?
@Revert/Convert/other verts…
Who told you that believing in breaking the moon, a virgin giving birth to baby, weeping of stones, flying donkey of Muhammad in Shab e Meraj etc can be termed as MYTH. It’s a real fact.
Lol. Thats the joke of the day for me.
Good ,then keep on your Lol till your resurrection, after your resurrection then you wil automatically Cry.
Brother Harish
Just look what happens when someone starts taking Quran seriously. Believing in breaking of moon, virgin giving birth to baby, weeping of stones, flying donkey of Muhammad in Shab e Meraj etc are real facts for you! So obviously an unbroken moon, baby with parents, unconscious stones and donkeys without wings must be hypothetical cases for you being the opposites of REAL facts
This might be the truth to you but You asking us to beleive in vedas is a joke of the day for us
@kal bhairab if u thin it a joke than wht abt Ram,Ganesh & Dr Shiva ( who surgically fitted the ephant head to ganesha , dont he have a spare head of human ) mamu mat bhan apna akal lagaw…
@Bilal , A revert (Previous name was Harish)
Once Muhmad Ji had gone on a journey of 7th sky to meet Allah, is it myth or real?
@Bilal , A revert (Previous name was Harish)
Allah sitting on his throne on 7th sky watching all of us, is myth or reality?
Yes @Bilal. The Prophet Muhammad s.a.w. had gone on a Journey called Mairaj wal Isra, first from Makkah to Al Aqsa in Jerusalem then from there to Sidratu Muntaha in the Heaven sitting on his Buraq (Angel who carried him) to the farthest Heaven. And Allah knows best. http://www.facebook.com/juhisuhel
Namaste Harish
If believing in breaking of moon, virgin giving birth to baby, weeping of stones, flying donkey of Muhammad in Shab e Meraj etc are real facts for you, what is that that is myth in the world?
What wrong you found in Hinduism? What good you found in Islam? Prove greatness of Islam over Vedas here and get all of us converted to Islam. Or come back to your ancestral home Vedic Dharma. What say?
You asked —————if you are a follower Vedas, are you following the above satages ? if so which stage r u in ?—————-
Even if I would not practice above stages, how does this make Vedas wrong? BTW I am in first stage till now.
Do you agree to discuss on Quran and Vedas? Either I convert or you, decide..
Before discussing on Qur’an and Vedas. I would like to ask u a question.
where is the word Hindu or religion Hindu is mentioned among the 4 vedas, like which volume, chapter, verses ? Plz clarifiy on this ?
@Bilal , A revert (Previous name was Harish) says
The word “Hindu” nowhere mention in Veda, Geeta, Ramayan, Mahabharat. Veda are for all.
If you claim you are a revert, you are implying the cliched belief that Islam existed aeons ago and that every baby is born into Islam. But the truth is that no child would even know the word God (in repsective Mother tongues) till the child’s Parent(s) make an effort to explain the child about God. Even if we take the evidence based theory that a child in the Mother’s womb can hear from month 5 of pregnancy, still, the vibrations heard based on recitations (kalma or carols or vedic chants) are external stimuli. There is no evidence that a child knows God intuitively, be it while in the womb or when the child is growing. The bottomline, no child knows God unless a Parent says so. So how can you believe that a child is born as a beliver when the child is TAUGHT to belive in a God, only by his/her Parents ???? Hence do away with this useless expression of “revert.”
The Creator and Sustainer of the Universe is One and has no second. Only He is worthy of praise. Only He is worthy of worship. He isthe Lord of the Worlds. For the well-being of human beings, in this world and the next, and to give them guidance to the true path, Hehas sent Messengers in every age and every land. But some ignorant people of India think that the Lord’s Messengers, sages and greatmen are sent only to India, in spite of the fact that the Aryans themselves came from countries outside India and the Vedas are thereligious scriptures of non-Indian Aryans. The real truth is, that whenever abominations and irreligious practices get out of hand and previous scriptures become corrupted, God sends new Messengers and reveals new scriptures. Those who reject the new Messengers andthe new scriptures and thus follow the superstitions blindly, go headlong towards their doom. On the other hand, those who accept suchMessengers and obey the new scriptures, attain the true path.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/53691335/Thesis-Muhammad-in-the-Vedas-and-the-Puranas
http://www.scribd.com/doc/53691335/Thesis-Muhammad-in-the-Vedas-and-the-Puranas
@Bilal, A revert (previous name was Harish
Well done brother you converted into Islam, really is Islam inspiring. I feel also very happy to imagin 55 years old man Muhamad with his 6 years old child wife Ayesha. If you have a painting in which both husband & wife are shown, please give the link. We should also follow foot step of Mohamad even go ahead to Mohamad, if Mohamad married with 6 years old child we also should marry with 3,4 years old child & should teach the world how one should treat child wife having age 1,2,3,4,6 years.Well done Islam!
Your’s is great work.
Ayesh was 19 years old at the time of the consummation of her marriage, and 14 years old at the time of her nikah.
@Bilal , A revert
You are idiot & Kufr
Ayesha was six years old at time of Nikah & she was 9 years old when Muhmad broke her virginity. Do not talk against Kuran & Hadis, these are pious book for me. Mohamad Ji have taught us how to behave with child wife. Mohamad ji is very inspiring for me.
I feel Your a better idiot then me. Keep it up
@Bilal , A revert (Previous name was Harish)
By the way what is problem believing in Ayesha was six year old at the time of marriage, after all there should not problem for blind believer who believe stone weeps, Breaking of Moon, Mohamad riding on donkey went on 7th sky to meet Allah, virgin giving birth , Allah sits on throne etc.
@Bilal,
I am very happy for you enetring into ISLAM, just concentrate on ur deeds rather than concentrating on these stupid people
As-salamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuhu Samantha.
Ramadan Mubarak…
@Revert/Convert/other vert:
Good ,then keep on your Lol till your resurrection, after your resurrection then you wil automatically Cry.
So, what. It is my problem then. Not yours.
Your are born free to aim at definite ends, free to choose between alternatives, free to choose good from evil and free to act in accordance with your WILL.
Here’s a gift for you :-
The Quran says, “Do whatever you will”[3]; “there is absolutely no compulsion in the Deen”[4]; “the Truth [has come] from your Sustainer: let, then, him who wills, believe in it, and let him who wills, reject it.”[5]; “Verily, We have shown him the Way: whether he be grateful or ungrateful (rests on his will)”[6]
Certainly, as to those disbelievers who hide the truth, it is the same to them
whether you warn them or you do not warn them, they still will not believe.
If you are in any doubt about what we have sent down to our servant, then bring
a Sura like there of and call up on your witnesses besides Allah if you are so truthful.
i need a hindu response my post
@Shabeer.. I am answering part of your question now relating to Bhagvat Geet. The sloka writen by is –
चातुर्वर्न्यम मया सर्ष्टाम गुण कर्मविभागशः /
तस्य कर्तारमपि माम विद्या कर्तारं अव्ययम //
गुण और कर्मों के विभाग से ब्रह्मण, क्षत्रिय वैश्य और शुद्र मेरे द्वारा रचे गए हैं /
उनके करता को भी मुझ अविनाशी परमेश्वर को तूं अकर्ता ही जान //
The four varnas are created by me according to different qualities (Guna – गुण), and being deeds (karma – कर्म). Although the creator of these, know me as non doer (akartaarm – कर्तारं) being immutable.
Before I write my comments read the Comments of the great saints on this –
Lord Krishna is the origin of the four classifications in Vedic culture as spoken here. Those of sattva guna or the mode of goodness are designated as Brahmins or priestly class. Those of mixed sattva guna and rajas guna or the mode of passion are known as ksatriyas or warrior class. Those mixed with rajas guna and tama guna or the mode of ignorance are the vaisyas or mercantile class and those in tama guna are the sudras or servant class. The actions of Lord always possess shama or tranquillity and dama or self- control in their performance thus even if He appears to do nothing He is the performer and if He appears to be the performer He is the non- performer of His actions. Even though He is the origin of the entire creation He has no desires and remains unattached. Thus it has been perceived that those who perform actions without desires, unattached to rewards have developed an attribute of the Lord. (By madhavacharya)
Now My comment-
Two words are very important here, one is Guna (Internal quality). Some are good in studies, some are not. Some are brave, some are not, some are good in making money, some are not, some are very bad in all the aboves. So its first Guna that decided to which class a human will belong to. Guna is also said in vedas. Veda classifies Gunas as Satva Guna, Rajja Guna and tammo Guna. Now people corellate these gunas with color of skin. But these are not color of skin, these are attributes given to understand the inner nature of the Gunas. People with satva gunas only (or good quality) are brahmins, rajas gunas are khatriya or baishyas and tamo gunas are sudras.
In other words, those who are good in studies are brahmins, those who are good in wars are khatriyas, those whoare good in business are baishyas and those who are not good in studies, nor in warfare nor in business are sudras.
Now the next important word is karma (Deeds) Meaning behavior deeds of a human also effects his varna. Even though one is good in studies, but later joins army will be considered as a khatriya (Prove Ravan, born from a Brahmin, learned all vedas and practiced priesthood for 20 years, then became warrior, afterwards he was considered as a khatriya, and Ram at the end learnt khatriya dharma from Ravan). Similarly if some one is good in wars but later changes to learn and teach will be considered as a brahman (Prove – Rishi Viswamitra was a king. He saw that knowledge has great power then swords. So, he did tapasya to attain knowledge, later he was 1st said as Rajarishi and later Maharishi). If a sudra learns and teaches will be considered as a Brahmin too (Prove – Vyasa Deva, was a sudra, he remained as a shudra till his marriage. Then he learned vedas, wrote Puranas, people called him a great saint and greatest brahmin of that time). Not only a shudra but also a dasyu if learns and delivers knowledge will be said as brahmin (Prove – Valmiki, he was a docait, he used to loot innocent people. later did tapasya, got knowledge and wrote Ramayan. He was also considered as maharishi)
This is the essence of the sloka cited by you.
@akhila
what about rest of them?
@ shabeer, among all other translation of the quotes only one translation was correct. But you could not understand its meaning, so i answered that part of your question.
Now when it is established that varn which you people understand as caste has nothing to do with birth, all other questions relating to caste discrimination are not valid. So i dont need to answer them..
Regarding other quotes from manusmriti as sited by you, i think you have read clearly this post and other posts by agniveer.. So those questions were not worth to be answered.
Regarding the postion of women, better you read the post at agniveer site itself.
And to understand why we opose the present form of manusmriti, you have to appreciate a fact that this manu smriti was found by the english during early 19th century. At the same time period they found another book called bhabishya puran.
There are many proofs that this is not written by the saint so said in this puran.
1st proof is the name itself. Puran means past events, a learned sanskrit scholar can not be such a fool to say future past events. You will find many such mistakes in that book.
If some body can write a whole book to convert hindus, its no wonder they manipulated the manu smriti before implementing as law in india.. The same happened to other smritis.
Again smritis are not as aunthetic as vedas are. So the general law is if smriti and srutis differ, shrutis shal be followed.
Indian saints were not such fool they will write any thing which they cant justify with the shrutis.
So, whn ever you see any sanskrit text that creates gender or birth discrimination, understand that these are created by christian liars or fake brahmans, and deny them to believ as authentic.
“………all other questions relating to caste discrimination are not valid………………….”
what are the actul meaning of verses that i posted?
bring the orginal verses.
“………. So those questions were not worth to be answered……………………..”
what are you talking about?
i posted many verses from veda and upanishid ,not from any hindu criticcs book.
you must response answer them.
@ Shabeer:
I dont find a single quote from the Vedas in your question. Either you are not aware what are vedas or you dont understand what is smriti. In my answer, I have clearly said, Smritis are not the final, they have to be compared with the Vedas. And only those vesrses which are not in contrary to the Vedas are acceptable and others are void ab initio.
But as your question was too lengthy, I could not see the following verse from Srimad Bhagavat Geeta. Although Geeta is also a Smriti, but in my views this is the best commentary on Vedas, others may argue on this topic. And for this reason I am answering your questions relating to Geeta alone.
For others, I have only one answer as I said earlier, if any Sanskrit Sloka containing any bad remark on any one whether that is for the Shudra or Women or any animal even, they are not in accordance of the Vedas and out right reject them to approve as Vedic philosophy.
Now your question relating to Geeta :
_________” (4:13). this means that, “I have created the four castes according to the division of their deeds.” It was natural then that the one who was created from the feet of God wasdestined to a life of foot-service alone. Indeed, it was believed that the sudra was specially created for the very purpose of service alone._________________
<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>
_______________The religious scriptures had taught that one is born of a lower caste owing to the sins of an earlier life and that if one is to attain salvation at least in the next life, he is to render service to those of the higher castes and employ himself in keeping them satisfied in this life.“Shreyan swdarmo viguna para dermal swanushtithal swdarmea nidanam shreya paradarmo bayavaha” (bagavath geetha 3:35)____________
<<<<<< Chapter – 3 " Karma Yoga" meaning "Deeds" In the previous chapter Krishna said Arjuna about the knowledge. He said Knowing the Vedas but not following them is not enough, what is required is knowing the summary of the vedas and following them.
This is the summary of the entire chapter –
vihaya kaman yah sarvan
pumams carati nihsprhah
nirmamo nirahankarah
sa shantim adhigacchati
"A person who has given up all desires for sense gratification, who lives free from desires, who has given up all sense of proprietorship and is devoid of false ego—he alone can attain real peace."
But Arjuna had some more questions, so he asked,
arjuna uvaca
jyayasi cet karmanas te
mata buddhir janardana
tat kim karmani ghore mam
niyojayasi keshava
vyamisreneva vakyena
buddhim mohayashiva me
tad ekam vada niscitya
yena sreyo ’ham apnuyam
"Arjuna said: O Janardana, O Keshava, why do You want to engage me in this ghastly warfare, if You think that intelligence is better than fruitive work?"
"My intelligence is bewildered by Your equivocal instructions. Therefore, please tell me decisively which will be most beneficial for me."
Then Krishna said,
sri-bhagavan uvaca
loke ’smin dvi-vidha nistha
pura prokta mayanagha
jnana-yogena sankhyanam
karma-yogena yoginam
"The Supreme Personality of Godhead said: O sinless Arjuna, I have already explained that there are two classes of men who try to realize the self. Some are inclined to understand it by empirical, philosophical speculation, and others by devotional service."
na hi kascit ksanam api
jatu tisthaty akarma-krt
karyate hy avasah karma
sarvah prakriti-jair gunaih
"Everyone is forced to act helplessly according to the qualities he has acquired from the modes of material nature; therefore no one can refrain from doing something, not even for a moment." REMEMBER THE WORD 'GUNAH' HERE. MEANS INTERNAL QUALITY. AND THIS GUNA ON FIRST HAND INDICATES ABOUT YOUR VARNA.
So the Varna has been derived from your Guna here. Now what karma should you do to be in a particular varna ????
Now Krishna says,
niyatam kuru karma tvam
karma jyayo hy akarmanah
sarira-yatrapi ca te
na prasiddhyed akarmanah
"Perform your prescribed duty, for doing so is better than not working. One cannot even maintain one’s physical body without work."
Remember the word used here is "Karma" not "Dharma".. So do (karma)work according to your internal quality, i.e. Guna… Not working is not good. So keep on doing what you can do at best.. If you can study, keep on studying, If you can teach, keep on teaching, if you can rescue people keep on that, if ever you are not able to do these above activities, keep on doing what ever you can do, but dont be idle..
yas tv atma-ratir eva syad
atma-trptas ca manavah
atmany eva ca santustas
tasya karyam na vidyate
"But for one who takes pleasure in the self, whose human life is one of self-realization, and who is satisfied in the self only, fully satiated—for him there is no duty."
And Krishna gave a number of examples describinng what is Karma..
The most important word then he said in 3.28 ,
tattva-vit tu maha-baho
guna-karma-vibhagayoh
guna gunesu vartanta
iti matva na sajjate…
He says to differentiate between the Guna and Karma. And this combination of Guna and karma describes you what shoul be your Dharma meaning the right way to perform what you do.
So at first, see what qualities you have, then select a profession best suited to your quality, namely Law, Medicine, Engg, Teaching, Warfare etc, and perform the duties given under that profession alone. That is your Dharma…
Then He said,
sreyan sva-dharmo vigunah
para-dharmat sv-anusthitat
sva-dharme nidhanam sreyah
para-dharmo bhayavahah
"It is far better to discharge one’s prescribed duties, even though faultily, than another’s duties perfectly. Destruction in the course of performing one’s own duty is better than engaging in another’s duties, for to follow another’s path is dangerous."
So my friend, reading the verse alone you failed to understand the real meaning of it. But if you read the entire chapter, you will understand Dharma is nothing but the professional ethics. If you are a lawer, you can understand they have to follow such ethics. While arguing a case for your client you should follow your ethics only. Its always better to die for your ethics, then to do the ethics meant for some other person.
@ Shabeer
So it is suggested that, dont go by the literal meaning of any particular verse of a chapter. read the entire chapter. And remember it is a poem, and the literal translation may not be exact meaning of the sloka. So read in full, understand the summary, then read each and every sloka again, by repeating for atleast 7 to 8 times, you will be able to understant Srimad Bhagavat Geeta. if you dont have time, then ask your question, I will answer you. I am not a master in Geeta, but I have read it 40 times so far, and still each time I read, I get some thing new from it.
from the below verses we can directly understand the meaning of Veda.i never cut the Veda.
” avidhom shchiva vidoscha brahmano divatham “(narada smrithi 9:317)
“A brahmin, whether he scholar or madman, believe that he is god”
” dushelo pi dhijo pujanitho shudro jidendriya “(parashra smrithi 8:33)
“a brhmin Butcher is better than scholar shudra ”
“A Brahmin equal to god, they must forcefully suppress the lower cast people make them their slaves” (manusmrithi 9:317)
” shakthanopi hishudrana na karyo dhan sanjaya “(manusmrithi 10:129)
“shudra no right to education (Veda) and earn money”
” visrabdham brahmana srudad dravyo padanama charathe nahi thasyakthi kinjith swom barthey harodhanohisa “(manusmrithi 8:417)
“If they (shudra) have any asset, Brahmin must forcefully recapture the entire asset from shudra”
“If shudra talk against the Brahmin suddenly cut his Tongue, if he try to beat (action is enough) to Brahmin by his hand or leg, Brahmin suddenly cut that (hand or leg) body part as soon as possible “(manusmrithi 8:279-283)
some scholars understand the truth,so they replay like that
“When a Brahmin killed the shudra jailed him one year and 12 cow penalty. But in case of shruda killed the Brahmin punishment was different killed him three short period with fire”
(gowthama dharmasuthram Ibid page-95)
“The Hindu Veda and Upanishath never give permission to shudra, women and other low cast Hindu, to prey temple and study the Veda and science”
(Indian Express 4-4-1988)
“If a shudra walking with Brahmin, beat him with scourge. if he steal kill him(punishment of Brahmin only bind his eye with cloth one or two hours).if he have desire to sexual affection with Brahmin girl, first cut his sexual organ, then capture his asset, then kill him. If he hearing the Veda captures him, cut the Tongue, pour the melted lead to his ear. ”
(Swami krishnanada: aparthed system in India page 93-95)
this the true about the Veda?
@akhila
from the below verses we can directly understand the meaning of Veda.i never cut the Veda.
” avidhom shchiva vidoscha brahmano divatham “(narada smrithi 9:317)
“A brahmin, whether he scholar or madman, believe that he is god”
” dushelo pi dhijo pujanitho shudro jidendriya “(parashra smrithi 8:33)
“a brhmin Butcher is better than scholar shudra ”
“A Brahmin equal to god, they must forcefully suppress the lower cast people make them their slaves” (manusmrithi 9:317)
” shakthanopi hishudrana na karyo dhan sanjaya “(manusmrithi 10:129)
“shudra no right to education (Veda) and earn money”
” visrabdham brahmana srudad dravyo padanama charathe nahi thasyakthi kinjith swom barthey harodhanohisa “(manusmrithi 8:417)
“If they (shudra) have any asset, Brahmin must forcefully recapture the entire asset from shudra”
“If shudra talk against the Brahmin suddenly cut his Tongue, if he try to beat (action is enough) to Brahmin by his hand or leg, Brahmin suddenly cut that (hand or leg) body part as soon as possible “(manusmrithi 8:279-283)
some scholars understand the truth,so they replay like that
“When a Brahmin killed the shudra jailed him one year and 12 cow penalty. But in case of shruda killed the Brahmin punishment was different killed him three short period with fire”
(gowthama dharmasuthram Ibid page-95)
“The Hindu Veda and Upanishath never give permission to shudra, women and other low cast Hindu, to prey temple and study the Veda and science”
(Indian Express 4-4-1988)
“If a shudra walking with Brahmin, beat him with scourge. if he steal kill him(punishment of Brahmin only bind his eye with cloth one or two hours).if he have desire to sexual affection with Brahmin girl, first cut his sexual organ, then capture his asset, then kill him. If he hearing the Veda captures him, cut the Tongue, pour the melted lead to his ear. ”
(Swami krishnanada: aparthed system in India page 93-95)
this the true about the Veda?
@ Shabeer
from the below verses we can directly understand the meaning of Veda.i never cut the Veda.
>>>>>>” avidhom shchiva vidoscha brahmano divatham “(narada smrithi 9:317)>>>>> from Narad Smriti not from Veda, I said twice but perhaps you dont have brain to understand or you dont try to understand… This quote is from Narad Smriti not from Veda..
“A brahmin, whether he scholar or madman, believe that he is god”
<<<<<>>>>> From Parasara Smriti, not from Veda…..
<<<<>>>>>No quote…
<<<<<>>>>>> Manusmriti not From Vedas…
<<<<<<>>>>>> Again from manu Smriti, not from veda
<<<<>>>>> No quote
<<<<<>>>> Again from manu Smriti
<<<<<<>>>>> No quote
<<<<<<<>>>>>> Manu Smriti not from Vedas
some scholars understand the truth,so they replay like that
<<<<<<>>>>>>> Not from Vedas
<<<<<>>>>> Indian Express is not a Veda
<<<<<<<>>>>>>> Who the hell is this man ????
“”"Who the hell is this man ????”"”
he is someone over enthusiastic with quran!!
..
as most other muslims!! they dont know what is in quran but everything else is wrong and it is only correct!!
@Krishna Arya…. I was asking about Swami krishnanada: aparthed system in India page 93-95
k.. i was telling about the mr. shabeer…
but about swami krishnananda … there are hundreds of such swamis india gave birth who gave their own philosophies!! so cannot be authentic..
shabeer is new to agniveer and just attacking by copy paste articles hope you also reply to some of his posts in forum hinduism… i replied to one… he is just mis quoting and mis translating verses …
muslims claim that allah is formless but can they unclaim these things??
1.Then the Almighty will come to them in a shape other than the one which they saw the first time, and He will say, ‘I am your Lord,’ and they will say, ‘You are not our Lord.’ And none will speak: to Him then but the Prophets, and then it will be said to them, ‘Do you know any sign by which you can recognize Him?’They will say. ‘The Shin,’ and so Allah will then uncover His Shin.
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2.Volume 3, Book 41, Number 594:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Two persons, a Muslim and a Jew, quarrelled. The Muslim said, “By Him Who gave Muhammad superiority over all the people! The Jew said, “By Him Who gave Moses superiority over all the people!” At that the Muslim raised his hand and slapped the Jew on the face. The Jew went to the Prophet and informed him of what had happened between him and the Muslim. The Prophet sent for the Muslim and asked him about it. The Muslim informed him of the event. The Prophet said, “Do not give me superiority over Moses, for on the Day of Resurrection all the people will fall unconscious and I will be one of them, but I will. be the first to gain consciousness, and will see Moses standing and holding the side of the Throne (of Allah). I will not know whether (Moses) has also fallen unconscious and got up before me, or Allah has exempted him from that stroke.”
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If you guys claim that allah is formless then why so many mentions of his throne and his form?
they say quran is the simplest and most unambiguous as it came directly from allah…but it is not so at all…
please ask zakir naik about this..a
HINDU VEDA UNDER CONTRADICTION :
” The sun was the chariot with seven horses travel
around the earth “(Rig Veda:mandalam 1:50)
” Rahu the son of asura hide the sun with Blindness it
was reason for Solar Eclipse “(Rig Veda:mandalam 10:40)
” the reason of tuberculosis was high Coitus “(Rig
Veda:sapthkama kandam 76:1-5)
According Hindu believes ‘brahma’ consider as a creator of the
entire universe, like that (siva and vishnu)(Quoted by S.R. Goyal: A Religious
History of Ancient India Vol: II Page 75.)(Ibid Page 76.).
But from veda we can’t saw a single verses from siva, vishnu
and brahma are the attribute of one god. Miracle thing was we can saw someone created
‘brahma’(contradiction 1) and he was not a creator, he just control the
world(contradiction 2).
” sa ekshathe me nu loka lokapalanu srija ethiso
dhabhya eva purasham samud drithya murchayath “(eitharyo upanishid 1:1:3)
“….god create ‘pursh’ from water ” here purusha Hindu
scholar explain the creation of brahma(k baskaran nayar:upanishid depthi vol:2
page:87)
From sharabo upanishid we can saw that vishnu as a creator
Instead of brahma.
” vishnur vishwya jagathoni “(sharabo upanishid
22)
Is Veda support for eating meat?
“Someone say never eat cows and ox, but yangna valkyan says
I am eaten meat for my better health” (shathapatha brhmana 3:1:2:21)
Who was superior siva or vishnu?
Sivan is greater and superior than Vishnu and Brahma
(sharabo Upanishath 30:31)
Vishnu is the greater and superior than Siva and Brahma
(thripadibuthi maha narayano Upanishath 1:1 to 7)
for more:(Tiwari-Arya Ramachandra G: Evolution of
Brahmanical Pantheon,
Quoted by S.R. Goyal: A Religious History of Ancient India
Vol II Page 76.)
Indran drink alcohol (somarasm) and he killed varthyan (hrid
Veda 2:15:4,10:37:4,8:48:36)
veda explain the different types of alcohol and training Hindu
believer that how to prepare powerful the alcohol?(shathapada brahmanam
12:8:2:8-10)
Veda promotes to worship to alcohol (somarasm) (hrid Veda
1:91:17)
(for more–Whitny: Journel of American Oriental Society-iii:292.
Quoted by Dr. S. Radhakrishnan: Indian Philosophy Vol I page
62.)
Like soma, we can find other alcohol ‘sura’from veda,veda
suport to drink sura for brahmin(bhodhayana dharma 1:1:10)
According to Hindu Veda the following persons and their
friends are ideal person:
Drunken, a man like sex with his guru wife, thief (gold),
killer (Brahman),
(Chandokya Upanishath 5:10:9)
Someone believes and trust indran they never beware the people,
they are the ideal people even they killed his mother, father, stealing, destroy
the embryo.
(dharmanada kosambi:bagvan budhan page 57,58)
According to Ramayana we can show that Incarnation of god
have drunken and sex with women (utharakandam sargam 42 slogan
Describe the sexuality of women:
” veda describe the sexuality of women like women
breast and thigh and broken all the limit of Vulgarity ”
(Rig Veda:mandalam 10:10-15)
(shukla yejurveda 23:22-25)
(adarva veda:chathurdashakandam 2:38)
Veda support to human sex with animal:
” to control the Oxygen(prana vayu) you sex with female
goat, to get better speaking technical you sex with male goat, to get better
future you sex with bull “(shukla yejurveda 21:60)
Father sex with Daughter (adrva veda:navma kandam 10:12)
Brother sex with sister:
” Sister of yemen
kamathura welcomes her brother yemen
to sex with her “(Rig Veda:mandalam 10:10-12)
Even taking that the translations are real, Hindus can reject those versese in vedas, Veda is not a binding law on hindus, nor belief in god.
At least hindu god is not a police and jailor who keeps looking for poor human beings to roast in hell.
a positive replay expecting from my hindu friends
a positive replay expecting from my hindu friends
Namaste
Just checked this article which is gaining prominence on facebook. He is alleging that Vedas promote killing. Kindly review it and refute him.
Vedas and world peace
http://www.islamhinduism.com/hinduism/analysis/76-vedas-and-peace
see leave it … the author completely gives wrong translations .. and it has become a habit of his!
you can read the vedas from arya samaj jammnagar website..
or if you have doubt on any verse , then ask it from agniveer in forum.. about translationof verse and i am sure you will be satisfied…
that author takes some translations from griffith, some from max muller, some from blatantly wrong indian translators in in that guise tries to cook up an article!!
But he is quoting from arya samaj jamnagar as well. In fact half of the article is dedicated to Arya Samaj translations. Kindly see that.
Namaste Avinash
Dont get into his trap. Have we ever condemned giving punishment to the perpetrators? No. We want them to be punished severely. Our only concern with Islam is whom to punish and for what reason. Islam kills humans because he/she did not recite Muhammadur Rasoolullah or worshipped any idol other than Kaba. Anyone who does not surrender to Muhammad is Wajibul Katl (deserves death) [Quran 9:5, 29]. We say this is Satanic cult. Poor author of that article failed to show any Mantra which asks people to kill others just because they differ with you intellectually.
BTW he has used only 7 references from Arya Samaj translations out of 28 he gave and rest are from others. Not only that, he has given Gayatri Parivar translation in the name of Arya Samaj. This alone proves he is a blatant liar and need not to be believed.
Anyway wait for the “truth of Vedic crusade” on our sites.
What about this verse which he has given. I check from the jamnagar website. It is correct translation. Atharva Veda 12/5/62
http://www.islamhinduism.com/images/stories/atharva_12_5_62.png
It mentions that those who reject Vedas are to be killed.
“vedas” — in that verse does not refer to the book!!
veda means knowledge!! veda means truth !! veda means what is correct !!
veda means dharma!!
to do theft , is not vedic….. a person who does theft and justifies theft is a ved-nindak!! a person who justifies something wrong is Ved – Nindak!!
for such a person the punishment is written.. and i was not able to present it adequately please refer to videos of islam and arya samaj debate !! where these question was raised up and was adequately answered (which satisfied the questioner party)
at channel
http:/youtube.com/truthwisdom2008
@krishna
“the author completely gives wrong translations .. and it has become a habit of his!”
this is not my habit,
please kindly bring the original verses that i posted here. this is ideal way of criticism
“vedas” — in that verse does not refer to the book!!
veda means knowledge!! veda means truth !! veda means what is correct !!
veda means dharma!!
to do theft , is not vedic….. a person who does theft and justifies theft is a ved-nindak!! a person who justifies something wrong is Ved – Nindak!!
for such a person the punishment is written.. and i was not able to present it adequately please refer to videos of islam and arya samaj debate !! where these question was raised up and was adequately answered (which satisfied the questioner party)
at channel
http://youtube.com/truthwisdom2008
@Avinash:
There is a quote in the Bhagvad Gita (I will pull up the reference if I get around to it) where Krishna says to Arjuna that the hymns in the Vedas do NOT matter on gaining moksha. So, Vedas are a means to Brahman, a ladder or a step, if you will.
@ Kaal Bhairab – Are you saying about the followings ??
yam imam puspitam vacam
pravadanty avipascitah
veda-vada-ratah partha
nanyad astiti vadinah
kamatmanah svarga-para
janma-karma-phala-pradam
kriya-visesa-bahulam
bhogaisvarya-gatim prati
“Men of small knowledge are very much attached to the flowery words of the Vedas, which recommend various fruitive activities for elevation to heavenly planets, resultant good birth, power, and so forth. Being desirous of sense gratification and opulent life, they say that there is nothing more than this.”
trai-gunya-visaya veda
nistrai-gunyo bhavarjuna
nirdvandvo nitya-sattva-stho
niryoga-ksema atmavan
“The Vedas deal mainly with the subject of the three modes of material nature. O Arjuna, become transcendental to these three modes. Be free from all dualities and from all anxieties for gain and safety, and be established in the self.”
yavan artha udapane
sarvatah samplutodake
tavan sarveshu vedesu
brahmanasya vijanatah
“All purposes served by a small well can at once be served by a great reservoir of water. Similarly, all the purposes of the Vedas can be served to one who knows the purpose behind them.”
@Akhila:
That was exactly the verse I was thinking of.
@Agniveer
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WHAT MY HINDU FRIENDS HIDING FROM THE TRUTH?
” IF MY POSTING WAS WRONG BRING THE EXACT VERSES THAT I POSTED ”
NOBODY REPLAY IT………………
THEN HOW CAN I POSTED VERSES WRONG TRANSLATION………….?
@Shabeer
_____WHAT MY HINDU FRIENDS HIDING FROM THE TRUTH?___
I know your truth reciting the name of Human “Mohamad” in god prayer, killing of animals for tongue test, dream of sex with 72 virgins, Kissing of black stone to please Allah, bowing head before stone Kaba, believe in incest by doing sex with daughter, mother, sister and give excuse of divine sanction from Allah, kill the non-believer & make sex slave their women, consider God a dependent of prophet, Consider God a weak entity who could not do anything of Shaitan when refused to bow down, consider God obsessed with worship desirous, & called kafir who does not believe in above said nonsense. All such things are against Veda. That is why always prefer Veda than nonsense book Kuran.
@truth seeker
i don’t know what my hindu friends doing like that?
,personal,religious harasment.
i asking the clear translation that i posted,nobady response it
ok that no problem
then why are behaing like that,is it kshathriya darma……………?
@Shabeer Namaste Brother,
I would try to give English translation of Shaloka but before translation please read the book link is given below & do not come to any conclusion without finishing the last chaper, that is the book which compelled me also to leave Idol woship or grave worship & human worship, I know it will take time to read but must need to understand Truth & developing wisdom :-
http://agniveer.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/satyarth_prakash_eng.pdf
Hello friends. Why no body is giving correct translation to shlokas quoted by Shabeer, and then see what he is to say.
Om
There is a fatigue of giving translations and arguing muslims with same logic again and again. There are many articles on mantras their meanings and how abrahamic religion mis-translate them on agniveer. shabeer can go there and read some tru translation if he want.
There are 50 Sulabh Shauchalayas (public toilets) in Delhi; all of them are cleaned and looked after by Brahmins (this very welcome public institution was started by a Brahmin). A far cry from the elitist image that Brahmins have!There are five to six Brahmins manning each Shauchalaya. They came to Delhi eight to ten years back looking for a source of income, as they were a minority in most of their villages, where Dalits are in majority (60 per cent to 65 per cent). In most villages in UP and Bihar, Dalits have a union which helps them secure jobs in villages.Most number of Brahmins working as coolies at Delhi’s railway stations.One of them, Kripa Shankar Sharma, says while his daughter is doing her Bachelors in Science he is not sure if she will secure a job.You also find Brahmin rickshaw pullers in Delhi. 50 per cent of Patel Nagar’s rickshaw pullers are Brahmins who like their brethren have moved to the city looking for jobs for lack of employment opportunities and poor education in their villages.Even after toiling the whole day, Vijay Pratap and Sidharth Tiwari, two Brahmin rickshaw pullers, say they are hardly able to make ends meet. These men make about Rs 100 to Rs 150 on an average every day from which they pay a daily rent of Rs 25 for their rickshaws and Rs 500 to Rs 600 towards the rent of their rooms which is shared by 3 to 4 people or their families.Most rickshaw pullers in Banaras are Brahmins.This reverse discrimination is also found in bureaucracy and politics. Most of the intellectual Brahmin Tamil class has emigrated outside Tamil Nadu. Only 5 seats out of 600 in the combined UP and Bihar assembly are held by Brahmins — the rest are in the hands of the Yadavs.400,000 Brahmins of the Kashmir valley, the once respected Kashmiri Pandits, now live as refugees in their own country, sometimes in refugee camps in Jammu and Delhi in appalling conditions. But who gives a damn about them? Their vote bank is negligible.And this is not limited to the North alone. 75 per cent of domestic help and cooks in…
What is true democracy for India, but the law of Dharma ? It is this law that has to be revived, it is this law that must be the foundation of a true democratic India: “It has been said that democracy is based on the rights of man; it has been replied that it should rather take its stand on the duties of man; but both rights and duties are European ideas. Dharma is the Indian conception in which rights and duties lose the artificial antagonism created by a view of the world which makes selfishness the root of action and regain their deep and eternal unity. Dharma is the basis of democracy which Asia must recognise, for in this lies the distinction between the soul of Asia and the soul of Europe.” (India’s Reb p.37- March 16th 1908)
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The Creator and Sustainer of the Universe is One and has no second. Only He is worthy of praise. Only He is worthy of worship. He isthe Lord of the Worlds. For the well-being of human beings, in this world and the next, and to give them guidance to the true path, Hehas sent Messengers in every age and every land. But some ignorant people of India think that the Lord’s Messengers, sages and greatmen are sent only to India, in spite of the fact that the Aryans themselves came from countries outside India and the Vedas are thereligious scriptures of non-Indian Aryans. The real truth is, that whenever abominations and irreligious practices get out of hand and previous scriptures become corrupted, God sends new Messengers and reveals new scriptures. Those who reject the new Messengers andthe new scriptures and thus follow the superstitions blindly, go headlong towards their doom. On the other hand, those who accept suchMessengers and obey the new scriptures, attain the true path.
If the current scriptures of the world are examined closely, it will become evident that some of them remained dormant and some otherswere kept hidden from the eyes of men for hundreds, even thousands of years. The Aryans had forbidden the reading of and listening tothe Vedas for the non-Aryans. Under the attack of the enemies, the Bible had disappeared from the face of the earth. That is why thefollowers of various religions had expressed doubts about the validity of their own scriptures. But the Qur’an is a unique scripture in thisregard in that it has never been out of sight for even a day. If the other scriptures of the world are destroyed, it will be impossible torecover them. But millions of those, who have memorised the thirty parts of the vast Qur’an, are available all the time. That is why this book remained intact and uncorrupted for fourteen hundred years. No book in the world can face up to this challenge of the Qur’an. Trulyspeaking, only the Qur’an can claim to be the immutable and eternal message from the Lord.
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Bilal, going by your logic you need to become an Ahmadiyya (if you are already not), as they had a new new Nabi / Mahdi in Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. He died only as recent as 1908. Please let me know if you concur. And as an extension, are you also accepting that the Quran got corrupted and hence Miza came along.
Last & Final Messenger is Muhammad (PBUH). That’s it.
Why is Muhammad the final messenger? Even the guy that stormed the grand mosque @ Mecca in 1979 claimed that he was a mahdi and killed 120 people. Other than the Quranic evidence why do you think that Muhammad is the final messenger?
Muhammad was the last messenger from Allah to mankind, and he brought the final revelation from God to man. Therefore the scripture (Qu’ran )containing this revelation is the last of the Holy Scriptures.
@Bilal
You fool, Agniveer is the last prophet. Agniveer ki Sharan me aa jao, varna dojakh me jaoge.
HAHAHA joke of the century Mohammad (S.A.W )Copied it from the vedas , have you gone nuts along with your angniveer
@samantha francis,
May be you have gone nuts, ask Zakir Naik how many of veda mantras look similar to quran verses!! If many of the paragraphs are similar we call it plagarsim!, I dont know what it will be called in your world.
If the mantras are different from quarn then please explain that to nalayak Zakir naik. He is commiting crime against ‘merciful’ allah, allah hates shirk and plagarism and will put ZN in ‘hell for ever’ . So please save him from permanent hell.
@adolf,
I guess dude you r goin nuts, there is a lot of difference between lukn similar and copying it from vedas and regrding Dr Zakir Naik he never said that Quran has been copied from vedas, so make sure you are reading in ur senses and please convey this to your mates and ur father agniveer
and regarding ur word Plagiarism , i guess vedas are being copied from the earlier versions that were sent by Allah(S.W.T),please find out when were vedas originated and who recited it orally and who wrote it and if you dont know , then please get lost from the conversation, please correct ur own statistics then comment on others
If you don’t know who said the vedas, who heard the vedas, who recited the vedas first, who documented the vedas, how vedas are passed on to next generations, who took the responsibility to preserve vedas, how vedas are preserved to ensure not a single verse is altered, you are ignorant. First get adequate knowledge.
Answers are available on agniveer site.
So you must be the up and coming terrorist…a convert to islam and using a christian name now that’s ironical…
Y am I getting more and more convinced that you are one of the commenters on ToH and have come here under a Xtain name so as to save face in case you lose? Your earlier eager support of marriage of Aisha when she was six indicates you are not a woman at all : if you are, you need serious mental treatment.
Bloddy ass hole, Now you will tell me wheteher i am a woman or not, do you even know what is ur father’s name , and my idea of supportin Hazrat Ayesha (R.A.A) because i am a lady and read properly in previous blogs what Hazrat Ayesha (R.A.A) mentioned abt Prophet (S.A.W) , u r another bloddy ass hole like ur father agniveer,
or what that u are supporting him knowing that he isputting false allegation on ISLAM.
Ask ur mother if agniveer is ur father
Agniveerji, one request..please dont delete this woman’s comments… let fellow muslim brethren see her standard, lol..
” my idea of supportin Hazrat Ayesha (R.A.A) because i am a lady and read properly in previous blogs what Hazrat Ayesha (R.A.A) mentioned abt Prophet (S.A.W) ”
You are making a fool of yourself again and again : I will marry your 6 year kid ( remember I told you I got a divine revelation elsewhere in this site ) . I will ensure my friends will record her sayings from the bedroom to the playground and perfectly preserve it for all eternity. Lets see if she is going to say good or bad about me. If she says good, generations to come will know that I am indeed one who got divine revelation. If she says bad, then she is going against the will of Allah and my friends will not include that in the recordings, ‘coz they indeed believe I am a prophet.
Y not give it a try?
Hey bro, that’s a good shot..let me see if samantha francis the recent convert to islam is willing to share her daughter…me too have a divine revelation…
Ghado ko kab se Divine revelation hone laga ????
@Bilal
Bas jyada waqt nahi hua, abhi 1400 saal pahle se hi hona shuru hua hai
1400 Saal Pahle Last Insan mai aur last prophet ko hua hai ye maloom hai, Ghado ko horah aye aap se abhi maloom hua, shukriya shukriya jankari denekeliye.
ab sab ghade ud ke toh jaa nahi sakte. Kuch bach gaye tumhare jaise
Iska matlab aap ko udna nahi aata. keep on trying till u learn to fly…. Good Luck.
Iska matlab aap ko udna nahi aata. keep on trying till u learn to fly…. Good Luck.
@Bilal
Allah apani kurshi par baitha huva kaisa lagta hai? Allah ke kitne hath hai?
Iska matlab aap ko udna nahi aata. keep on trying till u learn to fly…. Good Luck. I agree with your second comment, very few human beings are left.
@Bilal
Jab Mohamad ko udna nahi aata to mujhe kaise aa sakata hai. Mohamad ko aadmi ke udne ki science ka revelation kayo nahi mila? Gadhe ud sakte hai parantu aadmi kayo nahi?
Muhammad (S.A.W) tho Insan hai, toh udnahi sakthe, per aap log aapne aap ko Gadhe ke rahe ho to my adivce kiya ki try kuion nahi kar the udne keliye ?
@Bilal
Tum Shaitan ho, qua tumhe nahi pata Mohmad hi khuda hai. Mohamad aur Allah me koi bhed nahi hai. Yadi mai Mohamd ko yad karta ho to samjho maine Allah ko bhi yad kar liya. Insan to ham hai, Mohmad ji to Khuda hai.
Mai Allah (SWT) ka bandha hun Mr Truth seeker, patan nahi kya truth seek kiya hai. Tell y was vedic religion not revaled to other parts of the World ?? do u have answer for this ???
@bilal
yeh bata tune kya truth seek kiya hai.
allah kaunsa test le raha hai tera
muslims in india are busyy delling bangles ,chudi, kapda, pastrrrrrrrrieeeeee and bakeryyyyyyyyy industry and biryani.,mechanic welder etc in saudis they are driver,fitters , plumbers etc
they are wacked like dogs by americans,israel, majority of west and latest to the list is china
pakistan and india were on the same lines and look at the difference now.afganistan, etc etc . did they create an islamic republic of switzerland or somtheing they have the complete grace of allah
shamelesssly they use the tecnology from the west and they want to fight jihad against them.
for muslims technology============== take no logic
for what damn reason should any body convert into islam except imaginig abouuuuuuuuuuutttttttttttt the virgins ur gonna get and the daru with full rubab and shbab ur gonn get
selling and not delling sorry for the spelling mistake
@ origina shiva……. a_salam_alaikom ……….if u prove any one of non muslim or hindu r not engage in above said work i’ll belive u but i know u cant …….. bhai apnay log ko v tho dheko zara kitney kicher may hay … aap kis khet ki muli ho……. bhaijaan this is india & it is not build by single kom or person …it is stand by all d citizen of india…… Jai hind………. we dont want u 2 conver in islam… teaching of Islam will convert u in muslim & plz dont mention those jihadi coz they r black sheep of muslim…… every community has or had black sheep……. hope u understand bhaijaan…..
@ MD NOOR
WAILAIKUM ASALAM
FIRST OF ALL I LIKED UR TONE. READ THE ARTICLE ON DR NAIK KE JHOOTH KA BHANDAPHOD AND SEE MY UPLOADED VIDEOS.
WHEN MR WASIM REFFERED TO SHIVA LINGA AS PENIS I HAD TO REPLY HIM AND THEN THE MADARSA MINDED LOST HIS MIND.
I HAVED WORKED TOO MUCH ON SPIRITUALITY AND I KNOW WHAT IS ISLAM.(ACCORDING TO PURE BUDDHISM, JAINISM AND VEADS UR GOD OKK I.E THE INFINITE. THE WHOLE UNIVERSEIS INSIDE YOUU.AND ALL PEOPLE ARE ONE IN THE HIGHER DIMENSIONS(IF YOU GET TIME READ SOME BOOKS ON ADVAIT PHILOSOPHY ANDDDDDDDD SPIRITUALITY AND NOT ON ANY RELEGION).GET OUT OF YOUR CONCEPT OF GODGOD IS INFINITE ALL KNOWING AND SO ARE YOU(NOW DONT TELL ME THAT I HAVE TO EXPLAIN SOMETHING THAT TAKES HUGE VOLUMES TO EXPLAIN IT IN ONE LINE)
I CAN GIVE YOU REFERENCES ON THE SEVENTH SKY OR PLANE .IT IS BY ONE MEDITATION AND MANY PEOPLE GO THERE ITS NOT A BIG DEAL.SO DONT MAKE ME UNDERSTAND
ANDD YOU TRY TO CREATE A BOND OF UNITY BETWEEN MUSLIMS.THE CRISTIANS ARE BETTER THAN YOU.THEY HAVE SO MANY CONVENT SCHOOLS IN INDIA.THEY ALWAYS TRY TO HELP FELLOW INDIAN CRISTIANS BUTTTTTTT YOUUUUUUUU MUSLIMS HAVE BENN EXPLOITED BY ARABS.THEY DIDNT GIVE ANY FINANCIAL HELP TO MUSLIMS
SOOOOOOO THE QUESTION ISSSSSSS WHY THE FAKE BONDING OF BROTHERHOOD BETWEEN MUSLIMS AND AS AN INDIAN I DONT WANT MY FELLOW COUNTRYMEN TO BEG IN FRONT OF ARABS.BUT THEY SHOULD HAVE HELPED INDIA OR SAY PAKISTAN WHEN THEY NEEDED IT
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manniy bilal ji aap khudaa ke bande hai ya muhammad ji ke bande hai ? ahale hadees hai ? ya ahle kuran hai ? kuran me to to khuda ji ke “dono hath hai ” {dekhiye kuran 38/75} aur khuda ji ek singhasan me baithe huye hai , jisko 8 farishte uthaye huye hai ! jo khuda ji kisi singhasan me baithe ho , usko kya khuda ji kahana chahiye ? batlaiye bilal ji ? agar aap muhammad ji ko mante hai to muhammad ji ne anek mahilao se bagair nkah ke sex kiya hai, bachha bhi paida kiya hai , kya aap karna chahenge ? muhammad ji ne 50 sal ki umar me 6-7 sal ki kanya se nikah kiya tha, jo nikah ka matlab bhi nahi janti thi, tab uski manjuri bhi kabul nahi ki ja sakti ! kya itni choti ladki se aap bhi nikah karenge ? agar nikah kar sakte ho to to muhammad ji ko maniye nahi to unko kyo mante hai yah rasta hi chod dijiye, kya khyal hai aap ka ?
who told u that Muhammad (PBUH) had illicit sexual intercourse.
Have a look at the below.
Zina is one of the forbidden deeds, one of the most serious major sins (kabaa’ir) after shirk and killing. (Surah, al-Furqan 25:68-70). The Qur’an says, ” And come not near to unlawful sexual intercourse (Zina). Verily, it is a faahishah (anything that transgresses its limits-a great sin) and an evil way (that leads one to Hell unless Allah forgives him). Surah, al-Isra’, 17: 32. This means not doing any deed that may get close to Zina, or lead to it such as being alone with a member of the opposite sex, touching, looking, going to evil places, speaking a haraam manner to a woman to whom one is not related, thinking about and planning immoral acts, etc.
Regarding Marring Ayesh (R.A), go thr Muhammad’s (PBUH) life, u will come to know the reason for marriage.
>>al , A revert (Previous name was Harish)
The rules are only for others, prophet married 9 and had many slaves. Hafsa being one of them. He was even caught by one of his wife and he produced a verse which now is propogated as muhammad did not like honey.
Mr adolf, for ur kind infromation prophet Muhammad (PBUH) married to 11, not 9. Other thing r not true. u might have got it from wrong resources.
lol!! quran dumbed your mind!
vedic religion was revealed in starting of human civilization!! so no question that revealed to one and not another!!
there u made a mistake…infact all of our lernate non muslim made mistake here… if muhammad is god … than y he need food, home,wife & lastely he died.. coz god dont need this & he never die…….PLz read sura ikhlas ch 112.he wanted t o tell us he just a man & messanger of allha.
@Md Noor
Is muhammad in heaven now or in hell or in grave?
@ Adolf …. Jaha sab Rasool Hay……… Allha k Ghar may……… lakin aap ka Ram kaha hay , aur laxmun, krishna ……….. q ki ram nay apni biwi k liya ravan say war kiya aur sara lanka ko khatam kar di ya …… udistar aur unki bhai nay dro pati kay liya war kiya…. lakin ak baat samaj may nahi aya dono party nay in_saniyat k liya kaha war kiya………..aur ha ak baat ma_nay islam may pologamy suna tha …..ya tho dro_pathi ka mamla kya hay…….. mamu dro_pati to chalu hay boss …… 5/1 solid hay boss……………..some say its just a myth some said its real … plz tell me wht is true?
manniy noor ji, sabse pahale yah tay kijiye ki” insainiyat” kise kahate hai ? kya muhamamad ji jo kahe , ya khuda ji jo kahe vahi insaniyat kahi jayegi ? muhammad ji apni beti fatima ji ka nikah ghar me karke bhi” javni ki um”r me ali ji se karte hai ? lekin dusre ki beti aysha ji se nikah -6-7 sal ki umr me hi karvane ka ‘dabav ” dalte hai ? dusere ki mahilao se sex bhi “bagair nikah ” ke karte hai ! bachha bhi paida kar lete hai ? jab seeta ji ka apaharan ravan ji ne kiya tha ! kya uska insaniyat kaha ja sakta hai ? bhaiyo ke vivad me jab matr 5 gram nahi mil sakethe, tab mahabharat ka yuddh hua tha ? isme aapko kya takleef hai hai yah to aapne batlaya nahi ! fir mahabaharat koi “dharmik granth ” nahi hai ! vah matr ghatnao ka varnan! koi bhartiy sabhyta par chalne vala nitya {roj] uska path adi nahi karta hai !
Qu’ran : 104. ye of Faith!
Say not (to the Apostle)
Words of ambiguous import,
But words of respect;
And hearken (to him):
To those without Faith
Is a grievous punishment.
118. Say those without knowledge:
“Why speaketh not God
Unto us? Or why cometh not
Unto us a Sign?”
So said the people before them
Words of similar import.
Their hearts are alike.
We have indeed made clear
The Signs unto any people
Who hold firmly
To Faith (in their hearts).
119. Verily We have sent thee
In truth as a bearer
Of glad tidings and a warner:
But of thee no question
Shall be asked of the Companions
Of the Blazing Fire.
121. Those to whom We have sent
The Book study it as it
Should be studied: they are
The ones that believe therein:
Those who reject faith therein,—
The loss is their own.
124. And remember that Abraham
Was tried by his Lord
With certain Commands,
Which he fulfilled:
He said: “I will make thee
An Imām to the Nations.”
He pleaded: “And also
(Imāms) from my offspring!”
He answered: “But My Promise
Is not within the reach
Of evil-doers.”
125. Remember We made the House
A place of assembly for men
And a place of safety;
And take ye the Station
Of Abraham as a place
Of prayer; and We covenanted
With Abraham and lsmā’īl,
That they should sanctify
My House for those who
Compass it round, or use it
As a retreat, or bow, or
Prostrate themselves (therein
In prayer).
129. “Our Lord! send amongst them
An Apostle of their own,
Who shall rehearse Thy Signs
To them and instruct them
In Scripture and Wisdom,
And sanctify them:
For Thou art the Exalted in Might,
The Wise.”
136. Say ye: “We believe
In God, and the revelation
Given to us, and to Abraham,
Ismā’īl, Isaac, Jacob,
And the Tribes, and that given
To Moses and Jesus, and that given
To (all) Prophets from their Lord:
We make no difference
Between one and another of them:
And we bow to God (in Islam).”
137. So if they believe
As ye believe, they are indeed
On the right path;…
@Bilal
I ordered of my worship , only purpose is that human can purify themselves and only purified soul can sacrifice his/her life for other human welfare in better way.
I always inspire to all human to do welfare of others. Soul which listen their inner voice are my true devotee. Human service & my worship both are one. There is not a difference of a point between two. I give result of deed committed by human. As you sow a seed in soil & gets thousand in return in the same way when you do welfare of others I give thousand times more in return. Depends on good or bad deeds. I am cause of all cause. Never bow head before any stone. I am omnipresent but always pure as sun rays fall on everything but never gets Effected from good or bad & as light spread all over but never gets Effected by any good or bad in the same way I am everywhere/omnipresent, you can not measure me. There is not a point of space where I am not exist. Worship only me, concentrate only on me. I am the giver of all. All souls are my subjects, I am king. My all subject & I am eternal. There was not a time when we, I am (Allah) & my subjects(souls) do not exist. I transform the nature & gives body to all souls so that they can get ultimate bliss by doing noble deed consistently. I make the universe, it is my nature not will. It is eternal & everlasting process. I am Allah-ultimate bliss.
alas!! such lines are not found in quran!!
quran author was busy educating people all non muslims going to hell!! howsoever good!!
>>To those without Faith Is a grievous punishment.
We knew how intolerant your god allah is no need to advertise.
>> So said the people before them Words of similar import. Their hearts are alike.
Oh really what else shall we believe a flying donkey comming to me and taking me to hell?
>>We have indeed made clear The Signs unto any people Who hold firmly To Faith (in their hearts).
I dont see any signs of god, if the signs are similar to USA killing 21 persons daily in pakistan using drones then i want to see more.
>>Verily We have sent thee In truth as a bearer Of glad tidings and a warner: But of thee no question Shall be asked of the Companions Of the Blazing Fire.
Thanks for me freedom now is more worth than imaginary fire.
>>Those who reject faith therein,The loss is their own.
Believe me or you will suffer a terible loss…..haha threatening god.. what can we expect from a tribal mind?
>> And also (Imams) from my offspring!
Good what else can a tribal mind imagine, me and my progeny nothing else.
Compare to sages of india who preaches the idea of renouncing me and mine
>>Our Lord! send amongst them An Apostle of their own,Who shall rehearse Thy Signs To them and instruct them In Scripture and Wisdom,And sanctify them:
For Thou art the Exalted in Might,The Wise.
Thanks we dont need any more fighting,looting, slave trading prophets
>>So if they believe As ye believe, they are indeed On the right path;
Really then what are ahmediyas believing in? Which one of the 72 sects go to heaven?
Here is a Live & practical way to know Islam. If u have guts do what i say.
Search for a pious aleem ( Muslim scholar ), ask him how to take control of Jinn. If if u have guts and want to know truth do it.
@hey you bilal
its very eay to send a jinn backkkk.its islam thats advertised jinssssssss as some dealy ceratures who are mighty. they are nothing but deviated souls who have lead their path astray.
idiot do you know of death door etc
first have some knowledge about it.NASA USES IT WHILE LAUNCHING SATTELLITES .BUT THEY KEEP IT A SECRET(i dont use taqiya nuclear bomb)
first come up witrh scientific knowledge then i will discuss whats jinn etc. with proof of how nasa uses it and discuss the whole cosmology.
you go n enjoy the companyyyyyyyy of ganwar mullah baba adam how to bhagao jinn or talk to them .idiiooooooooooot like you will say such nonsense only and get converted.
Abye Ghade original siva, agar Qu’ran mai insano ko respective doo kar nahi likha hota, chahe woh iman wal ho ya na ho, nahi to tere maa bhan ek kar deta. Kis science ki baat kar hai byee. abye haram zadye NASA ke bara mai achi research kar. woh to joote hai, unki first moont trip ke bare research kar, pata chale ga kya such hai aur kay joot hai, bada aaya chootiya since ka knowledge rak ne wala…………….
@bilial gadha
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SCIENCE KI SPLELLING TUNE GALAT LIKHI HAI
NASA GALAT ,
TERE ANPADH ,GUTTER KI PAIDAISH WALE DAWAH CENTRES SAHI
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NASA JHOOTA HAI. AISA PANEDI STATEMENT MARANA BAHUT ASAN HAI.
MAIN BHI KEH SAKTA HUN MARS MAIN BANARSI PAN MILTA HAI KI KALKATTA
AISE HI JAWAB EXPECT KAR SKTE HO MADARS BRAIN SE
MADARSE BRAIN SE SORRY FOR THE SPELLING MISTAKE
original siva, Shurwat idot se tu na kar tha to itni baatye mai suntha hi nahi. Wase mai jo gali tujko diya uske liye sorry kha tha hu. Bye
aare rand ke bete original siva phale tere maa ne kiya tha kya idot ka use yaa haa likte waqt. aur bosdikye keyboard use karthe hai, usiki waje se typo error re tere maa ki , aaa ge to tu jana tha hai kya hai. Aur NASA ka video dekha hai kya chand per ka, une ke country ka Jandha lerah the hue dikha ya, abey saale jaha hawa nahi waha Jandah kya tere girl friend ka dupata bhi nahi lerahtha. samjaa soowar………….. abhi bhaut kuch kali likuh ga na dekar tere aako se koohn nikal aayega
are bhai ,achhi bhasha me bhi apni bat rakhi ja sakti hai , jara koshish to kjiye ,agar dusra hame” bhadkaye ” tab bhi ham kyo “bhadke” ?apne mastishk ko kaabu me kiya ja sakta hai !
Abye Ghade original siva, agar Qu’ran mai insano ko respective doo kar nahi likha hota, chahe woh iman wal ho ya na ho, nahi to tere maa bhan ek kar deta. Kis science ki baat kar hai byee. abye haram zadye NASA ke bara mai achi research kar. woh to joote hai, unki first moont trip ke bare research kar, pata chale ga kya such hai aur kay joot hai, bada aaya chootiya science ka knowledge rak ne wala…………….
@raj.hyd salamalaikom…… bhaijaan sayad aap ko sahi hadiz aur zaif hadiz ka matlab pata nahi hay…….. ya jho aap nay baat kaha hay who sahi hadiz ka reference day sak tay ho……….plz ch33.40 frm quran……….> sita ji ka aparahan may………. ram ko pata v nahi tha ki usko deer k roop may mamu bana raha hay………… AUR BIWI K liya war ki ya BICHARA Hanuman aur unka BANDAR KA samat aya raven haat say…………. aur Ram….. jis ko aap log bhagwan man_tay hay …bichara usko to pata v nahi ki Ravan nay sex kiya ya nahi….. atlest aaj k medical science may yato pata chal_ta hay ki sex ki ya ki nahi……… bichara sita ko agni pariksha nahi dena parta………wo bhagwan he kya jo apnay biwi ko bacha nahi paya……. aap log ko khak bacha_ya_ga ya bhagwan…….( ! fir mahabaharat koi “dharmik granth ” nahi hai !) aur aap log k raha hay ki mahabarat ko nahi man_tay……. Tho aap log Krishna ko v nahi mantay hongay na….. plz I want clear answer regarding ram & Krishna R they god or just a myth? Plz no double meaning …… “I want clear answer”……
manniy noor ji ,ram ji ek achhe manushy matr the , koi” bhavishy vakta” nahi the , jo bad ki bate jan lete ? noor ji ,aap logon ki tarah ham kisi ko nahi mante ?kintu janna jarur chahte hai , jan kar koi bat manna pasand karte hai kisi ke andhebhakt kahalana bhi pasand nahi karte hai, kya koi hadees nakli bhi hoti hai ? fir hadees ko kyo mante hai ? yah bhi to batlaiye ? kya muhammad ji ne mariya kabti se anek bar sex nahi kiya ? kya usse bachha paida nahi kiya? kya us bachhe ko jivit bacha paye ?qurani allah ji ne muhammad ji ko bachha dekar bhi choti umr me bachha kyo chhin liya? kis jurm ki saja muhammad ji ko di ? muhammad ji ke “ansu” kyo bahe ? muhammad ji allah ke rasool hone ka dava karke bhi dukhi kyo huye allah ji muhammad ji ko dukh kyo diya kaun sa kasur muhammad ji ne kiya ? jiski saja muhammad ji ko mili ?kya “avaidh sex” ke karan saja mili ? zeenat ji se muhammad ji ne bagair nikah ke sex kyo kiya ?agar nikah kiya tha to zeenat ji ne us nikah ka “kabool nama ” kyo nahi jana ? bagair kabool name ke nikah ki kimat kya hai ? kya koi allah ji kisi ka “nikah” karvate rahate hai ? fir nikah karvaya to us zeenat ji ko kyo nahi batlaya ? kya yah muhammad ji ki sex karne ki ek chaal nahi hai ? kya aap kisi ladki se sex kare ? fir ki hamara -tumhara nikah to” allah miyan ” ne kar diya? kya apke pita ji ,mata ji ya any koi samajhdar manushy aise “nikah ” ko svikar kar sakte hai ? fir aise “tatha kathir rasool” ki bat aap kyo manna chahte hai ? isliye kahate hai ki isi me samajhdari hai ki kisi ke “andhe gulm ” mat baniye , isi me jyada samajhdari hai ! agar andhe gulam bannna hai to hamare prashno ka javab bhi to dijiye ?
@Noor,
Keeping aside Rams fighting for the right cause and muhammads treatment of maria and death due to poisioning by a captured girl, why is muhammad given a place in heaven so soon but why do we need to wait till judgement day?
>>udistar aur unki bhai nay dro pati kay liya war kiya
It is not for drowpadi, it is for five cities they warred with kauravas. learn some basics before comenting.
>> mamu dro_pati to chalu hay boss …… 5/1 solid hay
She is with one husband for one year and, in that one year period she is not wife of other brothers. Please learn basics my deark donkey.
Any way if Allah gave muhammad to do rounds with 10 wives/slaves , and gave aisha power to sleep with some one else why cant he give the same power to droupadi?
>>some say its just a myth some said its real … plz tell me wht is true?
i cannot say whether they are histori or mythic,
I am not muhammad to produce two verses as he did in the purity of aisha case and settle the matter.
@adolf if ram do 4 gud cause………..so mohammad (sas) did 4 us…….. aap ka bhagwan karay to ras lila hama_ra huzur karay tho character dila……… be equal boss….bhaijaan mohammad(sas) is rasool not a bawakuf like u & me……… thats y he is in haven…….. mamu abhi v pata nahi chala ki pandav sab ko locha ki_ya tha……. dropat ka sari utar_nay ka badla nikal_ na tha……. bas 5 city to bahana tha……un logo ko apna khunass nikal na tha…..bichara avimaniu dho/dho chakrabiew may faf gaya…… kya aap ko dropati nay bata ya udistar k siva koi nahi aya…………tho panchali kis ka naam hay?
u said me ( dark donkey.) > ok go to south india who will u find …..hindu….. did u notice them they r black as (sorry no example coz they r also human bing) ……….. bhaijaan aap apnay hindu bhai ko gali day ra_hay ho…….. plz respect them…….. plz read quaran regardin alligation against aisha ….made by u coz read ch33v53…………………….so bhaijaan i would like complit my words by saying ….. truth has arrived.. falsehood has to be perish…it bound 2 be perish…. a_salam_alaikom
@Noor,
>>> ………..so mohammad (sas) did 4 us…….. aap ka bhagwan karay to ras lila hama_ra huzur karay tho character dila
This shows muslim mentality. Fighting with kidnaper is not equal to fighting for land and sex slaves.
>>>bhaijaan mohammad(sas) is rasool not a bawakuf like u & me……… thats y he is in haven……..
A self declared rasool who is a slave trader and rober in heaven? May be you are bawakuf , i am not and neither i care about a brothel place called heaven of allah.
>>>dropat ka sari utar_nay ka badla nikal_ na tha……. bas 5 city to bahana tha……un logo ko apna khunass nikal na tha…..bichara avimaniu dho/dho chakrabiew may faf gaya…… kya aap ko dropati nay bata ya udistar k siva koi nahi aya…………tho panchali kis ka naam hay?
Read mahabartha first. Stop talking without even knowing what is the agreement between brothers in regard to draupadi. She is panchali becuase she married five. But the agreement between brothers is one year only one will be the husband of draupadi.
>>u said me ( dark donkey.)
I said you donkey(i never said dark) becasue you are breying about mahabartha without reading maha bhratha.
>> regardin alligation against aisha ….made by u coz read ch33v53…………………….so bhaijaan i would like complit my words by saying ….. truth has arrived.. falsehood has to be perish…it bound 2 be perish…. a_salam_alaikom
I read the chapter and muhammad judgement ,and read about muhammad going to rounds, read about muhammad getting caught by his wife when he was enjoying with mariya, read about muhammad producing versese so that his wives do not remarry.
Truth has arrived and self declared victors will perish.
>> a_salam_alaikom
You are not even a muslim, who knew about your culture. Dont you know that you cannot initiate a salam (accroding to some tradition) to a kafir?
@adolf ………can u prove above said frm sahi hadiz ……….. i’ll bit u can’t……. regardin salam know i new u self decler as kafir……a kafir go 2 hell………….. ya sab baat choro chalo bhola na krishna aur ram ko bhagwan mantay ho ki nahi ? …….. is ka tho jawab nahi mila ………….. a hindu log may tum sab say puchta hu kya ram aur krishna bhagwan hay ya nahi?
@Noor
>>chalo bhola na krishna aur ram ko bhagwan mantay ho ki nahi
I dont consider them as Iswar.
Nor i consider you brothel supplier allah as ishwar.
@ adolf >>>I dont consider them as Iswar..<<< i feel so sad 4 other hindu bro & sis they think ram & krishna r bhagwan……… do u considered ur self as lernate person among hindu……. if our hindu bhai herd this things than u'll b hang up side down……….. do u think 90% of hindu r wrong that they r worshipping ram & krishna as Ishwar……. adolf i'm not only one who hate u now 90% hindu w'll hate u. go to hell adolf ………… sorry i can't take ur job of brothel supplier………….. coz its suits ur personality………..carry on…………….
Noor/Bilal/converts/reverts et al.
Could you at least try to post stuff that rises above 3rd grade school yard banter? If you want to understand the concept of Brahman/Ishwar/Hindu Pantheon, simply dont ask us “Why u worship idol, why u worship cow, you morons, etc.” Spend some time and try to learn about Hinduism if you want to attack it. You are convincing no body with your posts here.
@ kalbhairaw……………… ha ha ha fat gaya kya…apna dost adolf ka baat sun kar …. i’m not trying to convencing 2 any one……. i want to tell all d hindu bro & sis about ur motive…… u people r enimy of humanity & hindu belivers…….. jo ishwar ko na manay wo hamara baat kya samjay ga………….. hindu bhai log jara samalkar……. ya log kaffir say v gat_ya hay…….
@Noor,
>>they think ram & krishna r bhagwan……… do u considered ur self as lernate person among hindu……. if our hindu bhai herd this things than u’ll b hang up side down
They are not like you mullah noor, they dont kill a person just becuase some on said he dont believe.
>>do u think 90% of hindu r wrong that they r worshipping ram & krishna as Ishwar
Who am i to judge wrong and right? Beliefs of people dont cause much harm either to the believer or non believer. They only cause harm when religion falls in to the hands of people like you who kills a person if offerd a non existant seat in brothel house.
>>adolf i’m not only one who hate u now 90% hindu w’ll hate u.
Show me one person here one hindu here who says they hate me because i dont believe that ram/krishna are Ishwar.
>>go to hell adolf ………… sorry i can’t take ur job of brothel supplier………….. coz its suits ur personality………..carry on…………….
I never promised any brothel for any one. But your god allah is the one who promises to supply brothels, boys who are like pearls and wine.
Aah my personlaity..it is lot better than allah and muhammads
manniy noor ji, yah dat sahi hai ki hindu kahalaye jane vale manushy 90 % se jyada ishvar ke vishay me bhramit hai , vaise hi 100% muslim bhi khuda ji ke mamle me bhramit hai ! kya khuda ji ke” do hath “hote hai?{dekhiye quran38/75} kya sarvshaktiman kahalane vale khuda ji kisi ” simit ” singhasan me baithe ho sakte hai ? kya khuda ” krodh “kar sakta hai ? krodh hone ke liye “sharir “chahiye ? jiske sharir ho usko sarvshaktiman nahi kaha ja sakta ! vah kaynat banane vala bhi nahi ho sakta ? kai karod muslim bhi dsrgahon me jakar apna sir jhukate hai v mnnate bhi mangte hai, fool [pushp]chadhana , agarbtti jalana , chadar chadhana kya yah kisi “butparsti “se kam hai ? rasoolniyukt kana hi khuda ji ki” kamjori ” siddh karti hai ? jab kuran ke khuda ji itni “vishal kaynaat” banane me ksi ki sahayta nahi lete , vahin khuda ji muhammad ji ko “sandesh” dene [ayat bhejne] ke liye kisi farishte [zibreel] ki sahayta leni padti hai ? kya khuda ji sidhe sandesh muhammad ji ko nahi de sakte the ?yah khuda ji ka virodhabhas hai !, v kamjori bhi siddh karti hai ! ved bhi ishvar ka gyan kaha jata hai lekin gyan lene vale ka koi mahatv nahi hai , vah sidhe [dairekt ] un rishiyo par aya ! bagair kisi ki sahayta ke !hame,- apko v sabhi manushyo ko bhi bahut se naye vichar ate honge? naye vichar ane me kisi farishte ki sahayta lene ki jarurrat nahi padti hai ! lekin quran me khuda ji isme “kamjor” nikle ? aise kamjor khuda ji ke samne sir kya jhukana? kyo usko manna? !turnt aise khuda ji ki “sangati ” chodne me hi jyada samajhdari hai ! isa ji ko bhi bhi baibal ka sandesh dene ke liye kisi farishte ki jarurat “shayad” nahi padi thi ! kya muslim bandhu iska javab dena chahenge ?
manniy , noor ji , pahale ya tay kijiye ki ” bhagvan” kise kahate hai ? kya sarvshaktiman ishvar ko ? kya sanssar banane vale ko ? ya hame -aapko,, sabko jivan dene vale ko ? kya ram ji ne kabhi yah sab dava kiya ? kya kisi ramayan me yah sablikha ha hai ? bhagvan to ap jaise kai karod manushy bhi ho sakte hai bhagvan shabd ka ek arth” aishvayvan” bhi hai ! jaise kisi ko ” rahaman ” kaha jaye ? koi bhi manushy jo raham kar sake usko bhi rahaman gun vala kaha ja sakta hai ! kisan ko ann upjane ke karan v usse sabhi ka bhojan milne ke karan “ati samman ” me “anndata ” bhi kaha jata hai yah ishvar ko bhi kaha jata hai ! vaise hi koi bhi ashvaryvan hone ke karan usko bhagvan bhi kah diya jata hai ! vah koi bhi ho sakta hai ! lekin iska yah arth nahi hoga ki vah sarvshaktiman, sansar banane vala ?adi kaha jaye !
are noor ji , itna carectar dhila to syad apka v asamany muslimo ka, kafir kahe jane valon ka bhi nahi hota ! jitne “charitrheen ” muhammad ji the! 50 sal ki umr me pahunch kar bhi anek patni ke hote huye bhi matr6-7 sal ki poti saman kanya aysha ji se ” nikah ” karne ki “dushit mansikta ” banai! itni dushit nansikta tohamare desh ke muslim bandhu nahi bana sakte v kafir kahe jane vale bhi nahi banante ! ham sabhi muslimo ko chunauti dete hai ki vah muhammad je ke kadmo me chal kar kis bhi 6-7 sal ki kanya se nikah karke dikhlaye ? aur jinhone apne diye huye nam bete zaid ki patni zainab se bagair nikah ke apni patni bana liya, mariya kabti se anek bar sex kiya usse bachha bhi paida kiya! lekin….? lekin ….? khuda ji ke rasool hone ka dava karne vale ? unse milne ka bhi dava karne vale ! [ miraj ki bat ?]apne us bachhe ko v kisi bhi santan ko jivit nahi bacha sake! {sivay fatima ji ke vah bhimuhammad ji ke marne ke matr kuch mah bad ” bhari javani me “allah ji ko “pyari” ho gai } kuch un se to achhe shayad aap honge ? bahut se muslim bhi hnge kafir kahe jane vale honge ? jin ke bachhe jivit rahate hai ? kya ram ji ne 4 vivah kiye the / tab kyo muhammad ji se samanta dhundhne ki “asfal ” koshish karna chahte hai ? ram ji ne seeta ji ka “tyag” kiya tha, raja hote huye bhi , pita ji [dasharath ji ]ka adarsh hote huye bhi ,ram ji ne iske bad bhi kisi ko bhi apni patni nahi banai thi 1 ram ji v muhammas ji ki to koi tulna bhi nahi ki ja sakti !
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तनिक विचारें ? सनातन का क्या अर्थ है ?
सनातन अर्थात जो सदा से है . जो सदा रहेगा , जिसका अंत नहीं है , वही सनातन है , जिसका कोई आरंभ नहीं है वही सनातन है , और सत्य मैं केवल हमारा धर्मं ही केवल सनातन है, यीशु से पहले ईसाई मत नहीं था , मुहम्मद से पहले इस्लाम मत नहीं था | केवल सनातन धर्मं ही सदा से है , सृष्टि आरंभ से |
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आज दिग्भ्रमित हिंदू ये भी नहीं बता सकता कि परमात्मा ने ज्ञान कहाँ दिया है ?
आधे से अधिक हिंदू तो केवल हनुमान चालीसा में ही दम तोड़ देते हैं | जो कुछ धार्मिक होते हैं वो गीता का नाम ले देंगे, किन्तु भूल जाते हैं कि गीता तो योगीश्वर श्री कृष्ण देकर गए हैं परमात्मा का ज्ञान तो उस से पहले भी होगा या नहीं , अर्थात वो ज्ञान जो श्री कृष्ण , सांदीपनी मुनि के आश्रम में पढ़े थे .?
जो कुछ अधिक ज्ञानी होंगे वो उपनिषद कह देंगे, परुन्तु उपनिषद तो ऋषियों कि वाणी है न कि परमात्मा की …|
तो परमात्मा का ज्ञान कहाँ है ?
वेद !! जो स्वयं परमात्मा कि वाणी है , उसका अधिकांश हिन्दुओ को केवल नाम ही पता है |
वेद परमात्मा ने मनुष्यों को सृष्टि के प्रारंभ में दिए | जैसे कहा जाता है कि ” गुरु बिना ज्ञान नहीं “, तो संसार का आदि गुरु कौन था? वो परमात्मा ही था | उस परमपिता परमात्मा ने ही सब मनुष्यों के कल्याण के लिए वेदों का प्रकाश , सृष्टि आरंभ में किया |
जैसे जब हम नया मोबाइल लाते हैं तो साथ में एक गाइड मिलती है , कि इसे यहाँ पर रखें , इस प्रकार से वरतें , अमुक स्थान पर न ले जायें, अमुक चीज़ के साथ न रखें, आदि …
उसी प्रकार जब उस परमपिता ने हमे ये मानव तन दिए , तथा ये संपूर्ण सृष्टि हमे रच कर दी , तब क्या उसने हमे यूं ही बिना किसी ज्ञान व् बिना किसी निर्देशों के भटकने को छोड़ दिया ?
जी नहीं , उसने हमे साथ में एक गाइड दी, कि इस सृष्टि को कैसे वर्तें, क्या करें, ये तन से क्या करें, इसे कहाँ लेकर जायें, मन से क्या विचारें , नेत्रों से क्या देखें , कानो से क्या सुनें , हाथो से क्या करें ,आदि | उसी का नाम वेद है | वेद का अर्थ है ज्ञान |
परमात्मा के उस ज्ञान को आज हमने लगभग भुला दिया है |
वेदों में क्या है?
वेदों में कोई कथा कहानी नहीं है | न तो कृष्ण कि न राम कि , वेद मे तो ज्ञान है |
मैं कौन हूँ? मुझमे ऐसा क्या है जिसमे मैं कि भावना है ?
मेरे हाथ , मेरे पैर , मेरा सर , मेरा शरीर ,पर मैं कौन हूँ?
मैं कहाँ से आया हूँ? मेरा तन तो यहीं रहेगा , तो मैं कहाँ जाऊंगा | परमात्मा क्या करता है ?
मैं यहाँ क्या करूँ? मेरा लक्ष्य क्या है ? मुझे यहाँ क्यूँ भेजा गया ?
इन सबका उत्तर तो केवल वेदों…
” … plz tell me wht is true?”
raj.hyd ne uttar de diya hai..
mein keval jodna chahuga…. hinduo ne samjha ki polygamy hai.. aur ek kanun banwaya hindu marriage act…
aur appne besharmi dikhai aur aapke mulle 5-5 vivah karke , 36 bache paeda karte hai!!
aur kehte hai “allah ki rehmat”– islam is growing fastest !!!
why allah needs a messenger??
messenger is needed for those who are not at the place where message is to be delivered!! is allah not present in you?
why can he not communicate directly?
manniy bilal ji , jab muhammad ji ne ‘meraaz’ ki thi [jaisa kaha jata hai ], tab vah kaun se “janvar “me baith kar gaye the ? kya vah janvar ab” vilupt ” ho gaya ya ab bhi hai ? vah janvar gadhe ki tarah ka tha ya khachhar , ghode ki tarah tha ? ya any tarah ka janvar tha ! jara iske vishay par bhi prkash [roshni ] daliye
@ truth seeker gadha kis ko k ra_hay ho…. q ki hunuman v ud sakte hay….. plz aap apnay bhagwan ko ghali day raha hay… hindu log aap ko maaf nahi kara ga ……..
@Md Noor
All stories like human can fly is wrong. Hanuman was my true devotee & Bali also had a airplane in which Hanuman went to lanka in search of Sita. He never flied. Interpretation done by today’s people is wrong.
@Bilal
There is a person in my village named Ali made pregnant to his 15 years old daughter, When villagers tried to kill him, police interrupted in the middle. When police inquired to him he said that he got a divine revelation from Allah in dream to have sex with his daughter as Mohamad ji had got revelation of doing sex with a child & his daughter. His wife also confirmed with police and said he never tells lie. Due to divine revelation police could not do anything of him. I always think as to why Allah gives such revelations to people of doing sex with daughters/children?
aur aap kye liye ye jawab, jaab Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) ke dream mai Allah (swt) nahi aaye to kisi aur ke dream mai kaisi aasak the hai ?
@ Truth seeker… bro u read d wrong hadiz u can not prove frm quaran…. that hadiz must be written by people like u & critics of islam …….. read 33.50 (marry daughter of parintel uncle daughter of meternal uncle not d own daughter……) plz dont show d wrong side ……. quran never teach wrong …….
@Md Noor
I think You are right.
w w w scribd.com/doc/53691335/Thesis-Muhammad-in-the-Vedas-and-the-Puranas
Namaste Samantha Francis
Your conversion to Islam has brought great peace to your person and it reflects in the language and content you post.
must say this: posters like you are a window and ambassador of Islam.
to others: this is just a beginning symptom. slowly it will snowball in to violent threats and actions. keep watching the progress of this lady from what we call peace to what islam calls peace
i don’t think so francis is a woman.
@samantha
Mind your language clown. This site is for mature readers not for a hoodlum like you.
@Bilal
Why Allah has became cruel on human by imposing permanent ban on prophet sending for human welfare. What fault we have done Allah does not send prophet in our era so that we can see his miracle with our own eyes.Why Allah doing this discrimination with us.
@Bilal
_______The Creator and Sustainer of the Universe is One and has no second_______
Mohamad copied it from Veda 40:8, check it
http://agniveer.com/5132/common-questions-vedic-religion/#comment-19790
HAHAHA joke of the century Mohammad (S.A.W )Copied it from the vedas
, have you gone notes along with your angniveer
Bilal, just a plain and simple question, what did you revert to and how? Do you even understand the difference between conversion and reversion? Please elaborate for the benefit of fellow posters.
Kindly go thru
“Agar ab bhi na jaage toh (If You Do Not Wake Up Now Then)”
(English translation: Now or Never by Abdullah Tariq)
Bhaiye, hum toh jaage huye hain, tum kaun si behosi mein ho. Mohammad is not a messenger at all. That’s it from me too.
w w w scribd com/doc/53691335/Thesis-Muhammad-in-the-Vedas-and-the-Puranas
@Bilal ,
_____A revert (Previous name was Harish) ______
Reason of revert if Mohamad just copied many things from Veda. Why do not you go towards the roots “Veda”.
http://agniveer.com/1948/vedas-myths-misconceptions/#comment-20225
Bilal, going by your logic you need to become an Ahmadiyya (if you are already not), as they had a new new Nabi / Mahdi in Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. He died only as recent as 1908. Please let me know if you concur.
khud ji bhi bade ajib hai , khud ko to bahut bada gyani batlate hai lekin sangati anpadh se karte hai, apne do hath batlate hai sath me sarvshaktiman bhi batlate hai iblees ji unke samne vidroh karta hai fir BHI sAja nahi depate BALKI USKO TA JINDGI MOHALT dete hai kabhi bhi khuda ji yah nahi kah paye ki tumhe jahannum bhej denge / kya kuran ki koi aisi ayat muslim dikhla sakenge ? adam ki santane khuleaam sage bhaibahano se sex karte hai khudaki isme bhi sahamti rahati hai ! bad me apne niyam bhi badal dete hai ! khuda ji yah bh dava karte hai ki hamne sari kaynat sirf 6 din me bana di , fir vahi khuda ji ko ham dekhte hai ki vah manush ke bachhe ko bnane me 9 mah se bhi jyada samay laga dete hai itni badi kaynat sirf 6 din me … v manusy ki santan 9 mah me kya yah paraspar virodhi bat nahi hai ? kya koi khuda ka banda kahalane vala is bat ka uttar dena chahega ? agar uttar nahi de paye to turant islam bhi chod dena chahiye !
@raj_hyd khuda nay iblish ko khula chora hay q ki aap jaisay log ko dost bana_ya aur janahum ko bhar dega & allha said he’ll put them in fire along with bad jinn………. allha is great & he has all d power he can do wht ever he want cha_ya 6 din may dunya bana & 9 month child birth hona…. bro did u ever notic abt ur ganesh ji has elephant head ……. wht we call Dr shivaji,,,, if shiva have power so call shakti ganesh is his son not others…… …now plz come 2wards ram ji……. if he is god than y he can not notice that it is not a deer its a taktis of ravan ……… ram was easily fooled by him………….if ther r real god …….. they should know PAST , PRESENT AND FUTURE…… thats y we sould listen to learnet person & try 2 understand d whole story…… dont spit in sky….. it will come 2 u dear brothers
Dear Angiveer
I have a question related to punishemnts in Indian culture as per the writings of ancient India – specificlly Arthasastra.
I clearly understand that Arthasastra is not a sacred or holy text, but is it true, that Chanakya precribed harsher punishments for the lower “castes”? Also, how does Arthasastra fit in with Vedic philosophy?
I do not know if you have studies this text, but if you have, your opinion will be invaluable.
Namaste
Arthashastra – as available today – is a good text to study administration concepts. But it does contain a lot of stuff that is clearly anti-Vedic and irrational. Very little is know about Chanakya today. But from whatever we know, Chanakya deserves adulations for his nationalistic pursuits. However if existing version of Arthashastra be considered, several portions of it is simply crap and worth being trashed without second thoughts. We believe that Chapter 6 of Satyarth Prakash that contains excerpts from Manu Smriti is much more relevant for those looking for practical concepts and not historical analysis.
@samantha francis:
>>guess dude you r goin nuts, there is a lot of difference between lukn similar and copying it from vedas
For me looking similar is same as copying and improving. Other examples of copying is shunya of india. I am not a intellectual properties lawyer otherwise i would have argued with current law.
>>and regrding Dr Zakir Naik he never said that Quran has been copied from vedas,
How will he say, the moment he says so he will be killed by peacful people!. His intention is to use vedas and do taqiya so that many people convert into his religion, a religion which preaches to lock women in homes just because some tom cannot control his mind.
>>so make sure you are reading in ur senses and please convey this to your mates and ur father agniveer
I am in full sense, havent drank any green or orange alchohol!!. To improve upon an existing ideology is not bad but to not give the old ideology its due respect and to not mention it is considered immorality. Persons who justifies peadophilia, robing and killing of enemies at night, raping of captive woman, cannot understand subtle concepts of morality.
>>and regarding ur word Plagiarism , i guess vedas are being copied from the earlier versions that were sent by Allah(S.W.T),
Vedas are oldest preserved books, which humans can still interpret. Till any other books older than vedas comes into light i have every right to believe vedas are words of ISHWAR.
>>please find out when were vedas originated and who recited it orally and who wrote it and if you dont know
To use a wheel we dont need to find out where and when it is invented.
But to claim that our wheel is the best and no other wheel will come after this is foolishness.
Vedas themselves declare them as Apaurusheya, and to find out an author for them is as good as finding where sherlock homes lives.
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jai lankeshwar!
hail satan!
just to break the ice,who these muslim trolls think their impressing with their pathetic copy and paste nonsense?i mean if you want to debate,dont copy and paste you trolls,take the time to make real arguments instead of quoting that zakir naik clown.jai yazeed
I now have a Divine Revelation now. I have gone to 14th hell and found YHWEH. He gifted me a boon to screw up the daughter of Samantha Francis. Now c’mon I’m having a divine revelation.
@bilal
यदा यदा ही धर्मस्य ग्लानिर्भवति भारत, अभ्युथानम् अधर्मस्य तदात्मानं सृजाम्यहम् |
परित्राणाय साधुनाम विनाशाय च: दुष्कृताम, धर्मं संस्थापनार्थाय सम्भावामी युगे युगे ||
read here it is from gita .the gyan of yog is for people of bharat only. and kindly do some resarch work that yoga is amultimillion dollar industry overseas and how many pakistani muslims and muslims from baharain etc(this is not a bombarded exxagerated taqiya)are running after this yoga, reiki(all part of veda) etc etc
@ bilal
tell me why a prson should join islam(i.e I AM SLAMMED) SO THAT i go about the entire goal clarifying IAM KHAN AND IAM NOT A TERRORIST or go around telling that everything is happening bcoz of allah and if america and israel kick our butts allah is not responsible if pakistan ,syria ,afganisthan live on bhik (i.e alms by west) allah is not responsible
and dontttttttt useeeeee theeee rottennnnnnnn taqiya that saudi,dubai are rich,,these r just exploited countries who very shortly are going to run out of oil
@Noor:
if u thin it a joke than wht abt Ram,Ganesh & Dr Shiva ( who surgically fitted the ephant head to ganesha
These are mythological stories. The Ithihasas and Puranas are creative stories put in colourful language so as to expound the theory of the Vedas/Upanishads/Brahmasutras/Bhagvad Gita from time to time to those who cannot study the Vedas/Upanishads in lot of time. Think of it as popular religion, if you will. Elephant head onto Ganesha is NOT to be taken literally. Saying doesnt make me any less of a Hindu. There. Now that I have said that can you at now concede that flying donkeys, talking ants, insects throwing stones on Kaaba invaders are also myths? Or DO YOU STILL BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE REAL? That would indeed be the joke of the 21st century!
There is yet another concept behind Hindu stories and that is that God will appear in any form His/Her devotees want to see God. Some of us find the symbology behind Ganesha appealing. Some of us find stories of devotion to Shiva moving, etc. We use these to better our lives and be good human beings to one another.
There is YET ANOTHER CONCEPT behind God heads being fitted with animals, etc. Some argue it points towards ancient Hindus talking about how the dividing line between animals and humans is not cut and dried. All of us were created by Brahman. So, we should not slaughter an elephant or a monkey or a pig or a cow.
There is YET ANOTHER CONCEPT behind our Gods having multiple arms and legs and that goes to show that the concept of God is much greater than us humans. When you see Shiva in the post of Nataraja with different instruments on his various limbs, he is the very picture of activity and each of what his limbs carray has a symbology associated with it as he engages in pralaya (dissolution of the Universe). This is mere sport for our Infinite Lord for He is a Loving God unlike some other Gods out there who will roast us in hell for not worshipping him the right way.
@ Kal bhairav if think ‘(its the joke of the 21st century)’ than up coming Natak R
1 janma_astami, jis may manchala krishna kas natak
2 Durga puja jis may ram ka natak jis ka koi wazod nahi
3 laxmi puja( dipawali) is din sab bhikari dhan wan hoja ya ga
ya sab natak nahi tho kya hay………
mamu akal lagaw….
@Noor:
Dude. Do you believe in flying donkeys and talking ants and flying insects throwing stones? Yes or no? I already answered about the allegorical meaning behind Hindu Gods previously.
@ kal bharav ……..wht abt up coming natak………… i want clear reply not this & that
@ kal bherav ……. u considered ramayan & maha bharat as myth & colourfull story ha…. than how could i take ur religion leterally & take as true religion……. mamu starting may locha hay………ok d world is created by brahma ..than plz tell me when is brahma puja or natak?………… killing of animil like buff,beef,goat & cow. many hindu eat meat wht a big deal…. plz go in nepal there brahaman eat meat…so wht ? meet 4 eat not 2 worship….
ok if 2day’s world human with multi hand & legs than circus organiser surely take him or her…………. i must finish my word with islamic view…. la_kum ….din_na_kum…wali_ya_din….. salamalaikom……
@Noor:
Do you really believe in flying donkey/horse, talking ants and flying insects that can throw stones to attack Kaaba invaders. Yes or No? Or, should these instances be interpreted metaphorically?
The answer to these question should be independent of what we Hindus believe, right?
Sigh…why cant Muslims answer any question in a straight-forward manner?
@raj.hyd..truth seeker…….original shiva…..aagni …ADOLF……& other hindu bro & sisters plz explain me this verses….
veda describe the sexuality of women like women
breast and thigh and broken all the limit of Vulgarity ”
(Rig Veda:mandalam 10:10-15)
(shukla yejurveda 23:22-25)
(adarva veda:chathurdashakandam 2:38)
Veda support to human sex with animal:
” to control the Oxygen(prana vayu) you sex with female
goat, to get better speaking technical you sex with male goat, to get better
future you sex with bull “(shukla yejurveda 21:60)
Father sex with Daughter (adrva veda:navma kandam 10:12)
Brother sex with sister:
” Sister of yemen
kamathura welcomes her brother yemen
to sex with her “(Rig Veda:mandalam 10:10-12)
mamu if u spit in sky it will return 2 ur face with double speed…….
@bilal
hey man get out of the dream angels and spirits are eveywhere annnnnnnnnddddddddddd they can olny damn interfere innnnnnn anybodyssssssss life if you are karmically bound by them otherwise not
idiotic muslim propoganda taught in madarsa about jinnssssss
if jinns had the random power to interfere you moron the jinns of pakitan would have attacked us indians and jinss of india would have attacked pakistan and so on and so forth chinese jinns attacking india………
ganwar there would have been a jinn world war.the world moves on karmic factor and nobody can transgress it no god nothing.only things can be healead but nothing can be mitigated completely
i ,you me lord ram, krishna , thithankars ,angels ,jinns ,gods, demi gods, spirits,poweranimals(do research work on it),indigo children,star children,siddhas everyone is bound isssssssssss bound by one law i.e the law of karma
@ bilal
my spiritual master works with angels, bodhhisatvas etc(may be you dont belive it). i have sen jinns runnig out when a boddhistva comes.he is a budhhist .i have seen cameras shutting down automatically.
even in islam it is said angels are everywhere.its a scientific phenomenon in the hierarchy of souls according to the spiritual growth.itssssssssssss not any honkyyyyyyyy ponkkyyyyyyyyyyyyy stuff that go to any imam and he will show power of jinnss etc
@ noor
first of all mahabharat is not a dharmic book.its a part of it that is bhagwatam that is a dharmic book and from the bhagwatam katha its part (i.e ) the divine dialogues between krishna and arjun during the start of war forms the bagwat gita.
@bilal
main yeh sochta hun ki kuchk muslims pagal anpadh hot hai ki saare hi aise hote hain
i have read many articles on ki that first landidng on moon was false .so what after that russia ,india also sent their astronauts ON MOON .WOH TO KAB KI BAAT HAI
yeh wahi nasa hai jisspe sunita willams space station gayi thi(aur bewakuf dawah centres ne kaha ki she went to MOOOOOONNNN (it was a space station)and got converted into islam and fargi photos bhi circulate kiya).iski koi ofiicial statement bhi kahi nahi hai
ANNNNNNNDDDDDDDDD TO YOUR KIND INFORMATION CHECK OUT .WHITE HOUSE STARTED WITH VEDIC MANTRAS AND YAGYA
@ BILAL
CHAL MAN LIYA KI TERAH MULLAH QAZI KE PASS BAHUUUTTTTTTTT POWER HAI .UNLIMITED POWER HAII SUB JINN USKA KADAM CHUMTE HAIN TO KUTEEEEEEEEEEEE,SUAR, (KYUNKI TUNE GALI DENA CHALU KIYA AUR TERA ROZA CHAL RAHA HAI MERA NAHI) TU YEEHHHHHHHH BATA KI TU KISI QAZZI KE POWER SE KITNE GARIB MUSALMAN KO AMIR BABA DETA HAI
AGAR GARIB KO WOH QAZZI AMIR BANA DE,
AGAR SCIENTIFIC PROOF KE SAATH KISI BIMARI KO THIK KARTA TOH MANTE
YEH JINN WALI STORY MADARSE MAIN SUNANA
AUR SUN BH@n K L@AD#Y AGALI BAAR GALI SARCASTIC DHANG SE MAT DENA .
TEMPRAMENT LOOSE KAR KE GAALI DENA BAHUT ASAN HAI AUR TUNE PEHELE DIYA TOH MUJHE DENA PADA.WARNA MAINE TUJHE GALI NAHI DI
AMIR BANA DETA HAI SORRY FOR THE SPELLING MISTAKE
@BILAL
GOT CONVERTED FOR VIRGINSSSSSSSSSS I BELIVE.
WARNA CHAL TU YEH BATA KI TUNE HINDUISM KA KITNA DEPTH DEKHAAA HAI
KISIS CHIZ KO NAKARNE SE PEHELE HINDUISM KE DEPTH KE BAARE MAIN TOH JAAN PHIR TU CONVERT HO GAYA HOTA TO MANTA(DONT TELL ME ABOUT WHAT WRONGS SOME HINDUS DO)
@ BILAL( EITHER YOU BE A PROUD MUSLIM
OR BE A HINDUUUUUUUUUUU)
YEH BICH KE BANDER KI TARAH REH KE KYA PROVE KARNA CHAHATA HAI.
EITHER YOU HAVE BEEN REJECTED BY THE SOCIETY(AND PAKKA YOU ARE HOLDING DEEP RESENTMENT AND GUILT WHICH YOU HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO REMOVE)
OR YOU ARE PAID AGENT OF IRF
THE 1ST CASE LOOKS MORE TRUE TO ME MAY BE YOU ARE SOMEONE REJECTED AND INSTEAD OF FIGHTING BACK YOUUUUUUUUU ARE LOOKING FOR NON EXSISTING JUGGAD FOR YOUR LIFE
MAY BE IRF WALLON NE JAISE DOGS KO PUCHKARTE NAHIN HAIN WAISE HI TERE FAYDA UTHAYA HAI.
SORRY IF I HAVE HURT YOU.GO AND MEDITATE IF YOU HAVE ANY INCIDENT/INCIDENTS THAT HAVE HURT YOU(DO RESRACH IF YOU KARMICALLY DESREVED THEM).YOU CAN REMOVE SAMSKARAS
YOUR HEAD WILL FEEL LIGHT.
REST YOUUUUUUUUUR WISHHHHHHHH.
@bilala
TU PAKKA MUSALMAN BAN GAYA HAI.
KHUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN TAPKEGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA ANNKHHHHHHHHHHH SE .
CONGRATULATIONS
PHIRRR DO CHAR SAAL AUR HONEEE DE BOMBS KI KASAM KHAYEGA
CHILD SEXXXXXXX AUR RAPEEEEEEE TO NORMAL HO JAYEGA
ROZA CHAL RAHA HAI AUR GALI DE RAHA HAIIIIIIIIII
HANSI AA RAHI HAI
KHONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN TAPKEGA AANKHHHHHHHHHHHHH SE
YOU ARE NOT MENTALLY STABLE I FIGURED IT OUT EARLIER
KYAAAAAA DUKHHHHHHHHH BHARIIIIIIIII KAHANI HAI TERIIIIIIIII .PAKKKKKAAAAA.. TERE SAATH KYA HUA/
GHAR WALO NE BHAGA DIYA YA SAMAJ NEEEEEE.YEH BAAT TO PAAKI HAI KI YOU WERE OSTRACISED BY THE SOCIETY AURR ISLAM SE INSPIRE HOKEE TUNE ISLAM JOIN NAHI KIYA
SAMAJH SAKTA HUN
TENSION MAT LEEE JAB TUJHEEEEEEE VIRGINS MILEGAAAAAAAAAAAAAA .
SAMAJ MAIN IZZAT NAHI MILI TOH KYA HUA DARUUUUU KI NADIYANNNNNNNNN AND HOT VIRGINNSSSSSSSSSS TO MILEGI.
FRUSTRATED IDIOT
@BILAL
KHAIR TUH TO WOH RAND KA AULAD HAI JO KI NAH HINDU HAI NA MUSALMAN(TABHI TOH MUSALMAN HOKE BHI TERA HINDUISM SE OBSSEION KHATAM NAHI HUA)
YOU WANT SYMPATHY TOH KUCH NATAK KIYA JAYE
RAND KA AULAD HAI TOH FITRAT THODI BADLEGI..
MERA TOH KYA KOI ROZA TOH CHAL NAHI RAHA.TERA ZARUR CHAL RAHA HAI. TU INSPIRATION HAI APNE MUSALMAN BHAIYON K LIYE..ROZA HAI YAH COMEDY SHOW. GHANTA PURIFICATION HO RAHA HAI TERA
PEHELE AISEEEEEEEEEEEEEE PANEDIIIIIIIIII INSAN KO KYA BATAUN.
CHUTIYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE JAB IIT MAIN 10 CPI MILT HAI TOH NASA MAIN KAM KARNE JATE HAIN JISMME ITNE MUSALMAN BAITHTE HAIN PAR TAYN TAYN PHISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
@BILAL TUJH JAISEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE PANEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD IIIIIIIIIIIIII CHUTIYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE KO EXPLAIN KARNA MAIN APNI TAUHEEN MANTA HUN
DR ZAKIR NAIK KI PAIDAISH WOH BHI KEHTA HAI 9/11 INNSIDE JOB HAI.OSAMA TO KYA PAGAL THA JO EK VIEDO BHI NAHI RELEASE KAR PAYA KI I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS
ANDDDDDDDDDD ONLY PANEDIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII EXPLAINATION FOR A CHUTIYAAAAAAAAAAAA LIKE YOUUUUUUUUUU BECAUSE EQUATIONS SAMJHAUNGAAAAAAAAAAA TOH TU SAMJHEGAAAAAAAA NAHI
There is wind on the Moon. Solar wind but also artificial wind or pressure. If i were to take a wind machine / fan to the moon that flag would flap like crazy.
Look at the Apollo 15 EVA, when he walks past the flag after putting it in it is perfectly and then starts to sway like a light breeze hit it. Because he created the wind, just the same as if a car or truck drives past you on the road and you would fel wind or more correctly and change in air pressure.
The statement there is no wind on the moon mainly refers to wind caused by weather or atmospheric conditions.
PAR MUJHEEEEEEEEEE PAKKA PATA HAI KI TU NAHI SAMJHEGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
BHAGGGGGGGGGGG PANEDIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
@ BILAL MUJHE SHARAM AYEGI TERE SAATH SCIENCE DISCUUS KARTE HUE ISSSSSSSSSSSSILLLLLLLLLLLIYEEEEEEEEEEEEEE MUJHE MAAAAAAAAAFFFFFFFFFFF KARRRRRRRRRRRRRR
BILAL PAR MUJHE EK CHIZZZZZZZ SE BAHUT HASIIIIIIIIIII A RAHI HAI
IMAGINE A STEROTYPE MULLAHJIIIIIIIIIIIIII HONKING
ANKHOOOOOOOOON SE KHUNNNNNNNNN TAPKEGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AND THE FINAL ONE DISPLAY OF KNOWLEDGE ON PANEDI SCIENCE
COPY PASTE PANEDI GYAN THERE IS NO WIND ON MOON
AWESOME YOUUUUUUUU RRRRRRRRR SO SCIENTIFIC.
FULLLLLLLLLL CONFIDENCE KE SAATHHHH AYA HOGA AAJ TOH DIKHAAAAAAAA DUN IAM KHAN AND IAM NOT A TERRORIST/BUTTTTTT SCIENTISTTTTTTTTTTT
@ bilal
chal tune sorry kaha to mai tujhe maaf karta hun.there is a differnce between idiot and jooo ma behen ki gali tune di hai
even iam sorry for the gali i gave you
( if you want i have an advice for you.step aside relegion and reaadddddddd books on spirituality(relegion is not sciene spirituality is and allah/iswar doesnt consume any drugs that he creates everthing scientific in material worls and all of a sudden he becomes so unscientific…………….mannnnnnnnnnnn there are softwares to scan auras and chakras and measure spirits(you call jinn) technology has progressed tooooooo farrrrrrrr ))) introoooooooospecttttttttttt oyur life anddddddddd
if you wish see your past life(rather lives its a chain of non cyclic events made to teach you something) karma .you will get the clue to all your anwers
rest your wishhhhhhhhhhhhh
anyways thanks again and even iam sorry for the gali
bilala/original siva
Lekin me Bilia ko maf nahi karunga. Ye Murkh sochta hai ki kale pather ko kiss karne se aur kaba ke charo aur chakkar katne se mai khus ho jata hu. Ye Murkh hai. Ye Murkh sochta hai ki allah satve asman tak ki simit hai. Is murkh pata nahi hai kaya me har chij mai hu. Quoki sab mera bnaya hua hai to wo ganda kaise ho sakta hai. Ye murkh sochta hai me iss duniya ke banane se pahale mai khali baitha tha aur kuchh nahi kar raha tha. Parantu iss murkh ko nahi pata ki iss sansar se pahale bhi sansar tha.
@ allah
isme bechare ki kya galti hai .ab tumne apne bande muhamad ko aisa kitab pakdaya to koi kya karega……….
yeh to apke bande paigambar ki galti hai
khair subha ka bhula sham ko ghar aaye to use bhula nahi kehte
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KG9Sbg_gkxA
this video is for you allah
is at may tumara vedha jit gaya …………… ush may acha caha kaam bataya hay aap log ush ko achi tara follow kartay hoga na………………….. some of them r……………
Describe the sexuality of women:
” veda describe the sexuality of women like women
breast and thigh and broken all the limit of Vulgarity ”
(Rig Veda:mandalam 10:10-15)
(shukla yejurveda 23:22-25)
(adarva veda:chathurdashakandam 2:38)
Veda support to human sex with animal:
” to control the Oxygen(prana vayu) you sex with female
goat, to get better speaking technical you sex with male goat, to get better
future you sex with bull “(shukla yejurveda 21:60)
Father sex with Daughter (adrva veda:navma kandam 10:12)
Brother sex with sister:
” Sister of yemen
kamathura welcomes her brother yemen
to sex with her “(Rig Veda:mandalam 10:10-12)
Nahi isme bhi aapke islam ka koi jawab nahi hai. Read Tahrir-ul-Vaseela if you find a copy. Waise wikipedia ke content ko hata diya gaya hai itna bemisal hai yeh islamic teachings.
wrong translations and copy pasted comment!!
@krishna arya Namaste brother
You have given a good link to get Vedic knowledge, this site seems new.
& सनातन धर्म में सनातन क्या है ? Thanks for this great article I was searching in Hindi for last many days.
http://letusthinkagain.blogspot.com/2011/08/blog-post_575.html
A lot of thanks to you.
@raj.hyd Adolf @ orgi shiva @ truth seeker @ all who against us………..chdo bhai aap log say baat kar kar koi phaida nahi hay……………kabi Ram ko ishwar nahi ma_ntay kabi us ko acha insan mantay hay……..kew logo ko bawakuf banaraha ho……….. ma_nay aap ko kitni bar sahi hadiz ka refference maga tha mohammad (sas) vari may….jo aap logo nay pest kiya tha…….. lakin ab tak koi v refference nahi mila…….. aur dusro ka god ka naam par apna baat lik_tay…… chalo hum ko tho jannat may hur (vegrin) milaga tum logo ko tumara veda kya denay ka wada kiya hay ?………… ya phi shiva ji ka ling suck karnay ko milaga ya phir apna mother, sister k saat sleep kar_nay ka mauka milaga according 2 ur vedha…(Father sex with Daughter (adrva veda:navma kandam 10:12)Brother sex with sister)……..u people r cowered & bunch of idiot ……. do hell with u vedha follow d refference given below….
” veda describe the sexuality of women like women
breast and thigh and broken all the limit of Vulgarity ”
(Rig Veda:mandalam 10:10-15)
(shukla yejurveda 23:22-25)
(adarva veda:chathurdashakandam 2:38)
Veda support to human sex with animal:
” to control the Oxygen(prana vayu) you sex with female
goat, to get better speaking technical you sex with male goat, to get better
future you sex with bull “(shukla yejurveda 21:60)
Father sex with Daughter (adrva veda:navma kandam 10:12)
Brother sex with sister:
” Sister of yemen
kamathura welcomes her brother yemen
to sex with her “(Rig Veda:mandalam 10:10-12)
it is use less to comment me back coz i’m leaving this site coz i can not talk with dogs… 2 talk with dogs we hav 2 b dogs which i cant…..carry on veda follower (RV mandalam 10.10-12) try at ur home……..
@Noor
Here is answer
http://letusthinkagain.blogspot.com/2011/08/blog-post_12.html
@ bilal bhai in kutha logo say mu mat lagya…………… ya log kutha tha kutha hay kutha hi rayaga….reff frm vedha Father sex with Daughter (adrva veda:navma kandam 10:12)
Brother sex with sister: ya sab tho kutha hi follow kartha hay na
pranam …. bas dekh liya quran aapko kya sikha rahi hai…..
Bilal , A revert (Previous name was Harish)… aap bhi shayad aisi bhasha seekhne ke liye hi revert hue hain!!
chaliye achi sangat chuni… !! :-p
Shia,Sunni log muslim nai hote he wo log galat quran k jhase me fase he jo shaitan unse karwa raha he,
Allah unhe shaitan se bachaye jese Ahmadi logo ko bhachaya aur agniveer k through 3500logo ko
asli Quran to Khalifa logo ne tabah kar di,par Aryawarta me asli Quran ab b salamat he,Veda h asli Quran he
Shia,Sunni log muslim nai hote he wo log galat quran k jhase me fase he jo shaitan unse karwa raha he,
Allah unhe shaitan se bachaye jese Ahmadi logo ko bhachaya aur agniveer k through 3500logo ko
asli Quran to Khalifa logo ne tabah kar di,par Aryawarta me asli Quran ab b salamat he,Veda h asli Quran he
Shia,Sunni log muslim nai hote he wo log galat quran k jhase me fase he jo shaitan unse karwa raha he,
Allah unhe shaitan se bachaye jese Ahmadi logo ko bhachaya aur agniveer k through 3500logo ko
asli Quran to Khalifa logo ne tabah kar di,par Aryawarta me asli Quran ab b salamat he,Veda h asli Quran he
Raja Sameer.. Brother I think you are paid agent of Mossad! Do you believe prophets feel fear? Do you believe that Prophet Muhammad (SAW) was frightened while doing Hizrat from Mecca to Medina NAuzubillah? Such insults on our prophets should never be tolerated.
Raja Sameer.. Brother I think you are paid agent of Mossad! Do you believe prophets feel fear? Do you believe that Prophet Muhammad (SAW) was frightened while doing Hizrat from Mecca to Medina NAuzubillah? Such insults on our prophets should never be tolerated.
Raja Sameer.. Brother I think you are paid agent of Mossad! Do you believe prophets feel fear? Do you believe that Prophet Muhammad (SAW) was frightened while doing Hizrat from Mecca to Medina NAuzubillah? Such insults on our prophets should never be tolerated.
Raja Sameer. You have not only insulted Prophet Muhammad (SAW) but whole tradition of 124000 Prophets of Islam. Shame on you
Raja Sameer. You have not only insulted Prophet Muhammad (SAW) but whole tradition of 124000 Prophets of Islam. Shame on you
Raja Sameer. You have not only insulted Prophet Muhammad (SAW) but whole tradition of 124000 Prophets of Islam. Shame on you
@arqum u are salifi misunderstood QUARAN
Sant shri Muhammad (saw),ek sacche Sanatandharmi Vedanti the,jo dharma k hit k lie aye the,parantu Khalifo ne unki Hadith ko apne hit k lie badal dia
@arqum u are salifi misunderstood QUARAN
Sant shri Muhammad (saw),ek sacche Sanatandharmi Vedanti the,jo dharma k hit k lie aye the,parantu Khalifo ne unki Hadith ko apne hit k lie badal dia
@arqum u are salifi misunderstood QUARAN
Sant shri Muhammad (saw),ek sacche Sanatandharmi Vedanti the,jo dharma k hit k lie aye the,parantu Khalifo ne unki Hadith ko apne hit k lie badal dia
Aymaan Prince Agniveer never believes in fights and violence. The only people we hate are those who believe that so-called non-believers are worst of creatures and destined for eternal hell regardless of their good deeds. We have absolutely no hatred against anyone else. After all we are admirers of Ashfaqullah Khan.
Aymaan Prince Agniveer never believes in fights and violence. The only people we hate are those who believe that so-called non-believers are worst of creatures and destined for eternal hell regardless of their good deeds. We have absolutely no hatred against anyone else. After all we are admirers of Ashfaqullah Khan.
Aymaan Prince Agniveer never believes in fights and violence. The only people we hate are those who believe that so-called non-believers are worst of creatures and destined for eternal hell regardless of their good deeds. We have absolutely no hatred against anyone else. After all we are admirers of Ashfaqullah Khan.
shame shame puppy shame
shame shame puppy shame
shame shame puppy shame
Agniveer.. People like Raja Sameer are not to be tolerated. Whoever insults Prophet Muhammad (SAW) and other prophets should have no place in Islam and Agniveer.
Agniveer.. People like Raja Sameer are not to be tolerated. Whoever insults Prophet Muhammad (SAW) and other prophets should have no place in Islam and Agniveer.
Agniveer.. People like Raja Sameer are not to be tolerated. Whoever insults Prophet Muhammad (SAW) and other prophets should have no place in Islam and Agniveer.
@rizwan khan, aap kaaba,masjid,graves ko kyun pujte ho…masjid ki deewaron main kya allah hain?…
@rizwan khan, aap kaaba,masjid,graves ko kyun pujte ho…masjid ki deewaron main kya allah hain?…
@rizwan khan, aap kaaba,masjid,graves ko kyun pujte ho…masjid ki deewaron main kya allah hain?…
Sant shri Muhammad saw ki Jai
Krishnabhakt parampujya shri Muhammad saw ki Jai
Om Namo Bhagvate Vasudevaya
@kaunsa shankaracharya,riwan..naam batao…aur ye batao aap kaaba,masjid,graves ko kyun pujte ho…masjid ki deewaron main kya allah hain?…
Sant shri Muhammad saw ki Jai
Krishnabhakt parampujya shri Muhammad saw ki Jai
Om Namo Bhagvate Vasudevaya
@kaunsa shankaracharya,riwan..naam batao…aur ye batao aap kaaba,masjid,graves ko kyun pujte ho…masjid ki deewaron main kya allah hain?…
Sant shri Muhammad saw ki Jai
Krishnabhakt parampujya shri Muhammad saw ki Jai
Om Namo Bhagvate Vasudevaya
@kaunsa shankaracharya,riwan..naam batao…aur ye batao aap kaaba,masjid,graves ko kyun pujte ho…masjid ki deewaron main kya allah hain?…
rizwan shankracharya se tum seekho, woh idol worship karte hai… tum bhi karo..
rizwan shankracharya se tum seekho, woh idol worship karte hai… tum bhi karo..
rizwan shankracharya se tum seekho, woh idol worship karte hai… tum bhi karo..
rizwan zakir ullu bana raha hai muslims ko paigamber sahab(pbuh) ko shaitan prove kar raha hai sanatan granth ke hawale se
rizwan zakir ullu bana raha hai muslims ko paigamber sahab(pbuh) ko shaitan prove kar raha hai sanatan granth ke hawale se
rizwan zakir ullu bana raha hai muslims ko paigamber sahab(pbuh) ko shaitan prove kar raha hai sanatan granth ke hawale se
Bhai Rizwan Khan.. Badhai ho aapko ki aap ab un Shankaracharya se seekhne lag gaye hain jo khud ko Allah maante hain (aham brahmasmi) aur buton ko bhi poojte hain! Badhai ho bhai ki aapne ab jaakar butparasti aur Anal Haq ke pecheeda raaj ko samajh liya
Allah kare ki Zakir Naik aur aapka eemaan salaamat rahe butparasti aur Anal Haq ko kubool karne par bhi
Bhai Rizwan Khan.. Badhai ho aapko ki aap ab un Shankaracharya se seekhne lag gaye hain jo khud ko Allah maante hain (aham brahmasmi) aur buton ko bhi poojte hain! Badhai ho bhai ki aapne ab jaakar butparasti aur Anal Haq ke pecheeda raaj ko samajh liya
Allah kare ki Zakir Naik aur aapka eemaan salaamat rahe butparasti aur Anal Haq ko kubool karne par bhi
Bhai Rizwan Khan.. Badhai ho aapko ki aap ab un Shankaracharya se seekhne lag gaye hain jo khud ko Allah maante hain (aham brahmasmi) aur buton ko bhi poojte hain! Badhai ho bhai ki aapne ab jaakar butparasti aur Anal Haq ke pecheeda raaj ko samajh liya
Allah kare ki Zakir Naik aur aapka eemaan salaamat rahe butparasti aur Anal Haq ko kubool karne par bhi
Khalifa ko ek se zada shadi karni ti to usne Hadith ko badal dia
jab k sachhai to ye he k Sant Shri Muhammadacharyaji k ek h patni thi,Mata Khadija
quran mein 17000 verse hone chahiye kaha hai?
Khalifa ko ek se zada shadi karni ti to usne Hadith ko badal dia
jab k sachhai to ye he k Sant Shri Muhammadacharyaji k ek h patni thi,Mata Khadija
quran mein 17000 verse hone chahiye kaha hai?
Khalifa ko ek se zada shadi karni ti to usne Hadith ko badal dia
jab k sachhai to ye he k Sant Shri Muhammadacharyaji k ek h patni thi,Mata Khadija
quran mein 17000 verse hone chahiye kaha hai?
@rizwan to be frank shankrayacharya jaise logo se hume nahi aapko seekhna chahiye,agar aise mahaan log jo insaniyat key baat karte hai jo kehte hi sub mazhab ek hai,agar unki vichar dhara tumhe lagti hai ki islam ke liye zyada hai toh wo maulana ban gaye hote..koi hindu/christian arab mai mandir ya church nahi bana sakte aur india mai shankracharya ji aisa kehte hai..yeh hai insaniyat ke liye books jis karan shankracharya aisa kehte hai…
@rizwan to be frank shankrayacharya jaise logo se hume nahi aapko seekhna chahiye,agar aise mahaan log jo insaniyat key baat karte hai jo kehte hi sub mazhab ek hai,agar unki vichar dhara tumhe lagti hai ki islam ke liye zyada hai toh wo maulana ban gaye hote..koi hindu/christian arab mai mandir ya church nahi bana sakte aur india mai shankracharya ji aisa kehte hai..yeh hai insaniyat ke liye books jis karan shankracharya aisa kehte hai…
@rizwan to be frank shankrayacharya jaise logo se hume nahi aapko seekhna chahiye,agar aise mahaan log jo insaniyat key baat karte hai jo kehte hi sub mazhab ek hai,agar unki vichar dhara tumhe lagti hai ki islam ke liye zyada hai toh wo maulana ban gaye hote..koi hindu/christian arab mai mandir ya church nahi bana sakte aur india mai shankracharya ji aisa kehte hai..yeh hai insaniyat ke liye books jis karan shankracharya aisa kehte hai…
Raghav Marnewala Bhai.. IS baat par main Zakir ke saath hoon. Dekho, usne Shankaracharya ji ko bulaya Islam par takreer karne ke liye, yah jaante hue bhi ki vo ek butparast aur khud ko Allah maanne vaale hain. Iska matlab yah hua ki ab aap butparasti karke bhi islam ke aalim ban sakte ho aur islam ki daawat de sakte ho! Aur haan, khud ko allah maan kar bhi aap Musalmaan bane rah sakte ho.
Hum sab ki taraf se Zakir Bhai MBBS ko badhai
Mahadeva k param bhakt the Shri Muhammadacharya saw ji,
kaba sthit Shivmahalaya ka uddhar unhone h kia tha Shivji k krupa se
Raghav Marnewala Bhai.. IS baat par main Zakir ke saath hoon. Dekho, usne Shankaracharya ji ko bulaya Islam par takreer karne ke liye, yah jaante hue bhi ki vo ek butparast aur khud ko Allah maanne vaale hain. Iska matlab yah hua ki ab aap butparasti karke bhi islam ke aalim ban sakte ho aur islam ki daawat de sakte ho! Aur haan, khud ko allah maan kar bhi aap Musalmaan bane rah sakte ho.
Hum sab ki taraf se Zakir Bhai MBBS ko badhai
Mahadeva k param bhakt the Shri Muhammadacharya saw ji,
kaba sthit Shivmahalaya ka uddhar unhone h kia tha Shivji k krupa se
Raghav Marnewala Bhai.. IS baat par main Zakir ke saath hoon. Dekho, usne Shankaracharya ji ko bulaya Islam par takreer karne ke liye, yah jaante hue bhi ki vo ek butparast aur khud ko Allah maanne vaale hain. Iska matlab yah hua ki ab aap butparasti karke bhi islam ke aalim ban sakte ho aur islam ki daawat de sakte ho! Aur haan, khud ko allah maan kar bhi aap Musalmaan bane rah sakte ho.
Hum sab ki taraf se Zakir Bhai MBBS ko badhai
Mahadeva k param bhakt the Shri Muhammadacharya saw ji,
kaba sthit Shivmahalaya ka uddhar unhone h kia tha Shivji k krupa se
bhaiyo Shri Muhammadacharyaji saw ne dharma ka hit karne dharti par jald hi janma lena he,tab wo phir se asli hadith batayenge,
aur hamare gurudev k insult jo nam k muslim karte he ye bolkar k unki 4 patni thi,unhe Allah hidayat de,
Ya Allah,jesa k apne Bhagvatam me kaha he,jald hi prithvi par kalki avtar me janma lijie
Hare Allah
bhaiyo Shri Muhammadacharyaji saw ne dharma ka hit karne dharti par jald hi janma lena he,tab wo phir se asli hadith batayenge,
aur hamare gurudev k insult jo nam k muslim karte he ye bolkar k unki 4 patni thi,unhe Allah hidayat de,
Ya Allah,jesa k apne Bhagvatam me kaha he,jald hi prithvi par kalki avtar me janma lijie
Hare Allah
bhaiyo Shri Muhammadacharyaji saw ne dharma ka hit karne dharti par jald hi janma lena he,tab wo phir se asli hadith batayenge,
aur hamare gurudev k insult jo nam k muslim karte he ye bolkar k unki 4 patni thi,unhe Allah hidayat de,
Ya Allah,jesa k apne Bhagvatam me kaha he,jald hi prithvi par kalki avtar me janma lijie
Hare Allah
@rizwan,har cheez ka ek direction hota hai hai ya wo ek direction main hota hai….isme kaunsi badi baat haia..LOL
kalki ji avtar ley chuke hai >>>>>Kalki Sharma<<<<
@rizwan,har cheez ka ek direction hota hai hai ya wo ek direction main hota hai….isme kaunsi badi baat haia..LOL
kalki ji avtar ley chuke hai >>>>>Kalki Sharma<<<<
@rizwan,har cheez ka ek direction hota hai hai ya wo ek direction main hota hai….isme kaunsi badi baat haia..LOL
kalki ji avtar ley chuke hai >>>>>Kalki Sharma<<<<
lol
Somil bhai,plz bura mat manie par sirf kalki nam se koi kalki hota
lol
Somil bhai,plz bura mat manie par sirf kalki nam se koi kalki hota
lol
Somil bhai,plz bura mat manie par sirf kalki nam se koi kalki hota
hota hai ,ho chuka hai Kapil Sibbal ji
Muhammad sahab bhukhe reh jate the par non-veg nai khate the,ye sab to un jehannumnasheen khalifa ka kia dhara he
hota hai ,ho chuka hai Kapil Sibbal ji
Muhammad sahab bhukhe reh jate the par non-veg nai khate the,ye sab to un jehannumnasheen khalifa ka kia dhara he
hota hai ,ho chuka hai Kapil Sibbal ji
Muhammad sahab bhukhe reh jate the par non-veg nai khate the,ye sab to un jehannumnasheen khalifa ka kia dhara he
aree kalki sharma me woh sare gun hai… agniverr pe indian agnostic ke post dekho
aree kalki sharma me woh sare gun hai… agniverr pe indian agnostic ke post dekho
aree kalki sharma me woh sare gun hai… agniverr pe indian agnostic ke post dekho
Kalki Sharma,
where are you?
Kalki Sharma,
where are you?
Kalki Sharma,
where are you?
mere bhai abi to ghor kalyug b nai aya he
Muhammadacharya saw ji k Jainti kab he?
matlab Id e miladunnabi
mere bhai abi to ghor kalyug b nai aya he
Muhammadacharya saw ji k Jainti kab he?
matlab Id e miladunnabi
mere bhai abi to ghor kalyug b nai aya he
Muhammadacharya saw ji k Jainti kab he?
matlab Id e miladunnabi
Vajra arya , aap zakir naik sir ki kis baat se shikayat karte hain. wo to bade hi nek bande hain. allah ne unhe bheja hai taaki islam ki sab kamiyon ko dur kar sakeib aur Allah ki baat sab tak pahooncha sake.
Vajra arya , aap zakir naik sir ki kis baat se shikayat karte hain. wo to bade hi nek bande hain. allah ne unhe bheja hai taaki islam ki sab kamiyon ko dur kar sakeib aur Allah ki baat sab tak pahooncha sake.
Vajra arya , aap zakir naik sir ki kis baat se shikayat karte hain. wo to bade hi nek bande hain. allah ne unhe bheja hai taaki islam ki sab kamiyon ko dur kar sakeib aur Allah ki baat sab tak pahooncha sake.
dont wait for ghor kalyug, kalki avtar etc. we all are kalki
prince zakir najayaj jutha hai paigamber sahab(pbuh) ko shaitan bata raha hai
dont wait for ghor kalyug, kalki avtar etc. we all are kalki
prince zakir najayaj jutha hai paigamber sahab(pbuh) ko shaitan bata raha hai
dont wait for ghor kalyug, kalki avtar etc. we all are kalki
prince zakir najayaj jutha hai paigamber sahab(pbuh) ko shaitan bata raha hai
aymaan prince zakir naik is a fruad, he fooled many innocents (including me) saying muhammad is foretold in vedas and other hindu books. which turned out to be a bletent lie
Aymaan,
Allah ko badnam mat karo,Islam ko badnam mat karo,
samje nai to bhugato ge tum
Wo Zakir bandar kahi ka,
shaitan he wo aur tum nam k musalmano ko aur barbar karna chahta he,
Agniveer ji uska vadh karenge
aymaan prince zakir naik is a fruad, he fooled many innocents (including me) saying muhammad is foretold in vedas and other hindu books. which turned out to be a bletent lie
Aymaan,
Allah ko badnam mat karo,Islam ko badnam mat karo,
samje nai to bhugato ge tum
Wo Zakir bandar kahi ka,
shaitan he wo aur tum nam k musalmano ko aur barbar karna chahta he,
Agniveer ji uska vadh karenge
aymaan prince zakir naik is a fruad, he fooled many innocents (including me) saying muhammad is foretold in vedas and other hindu books. which turned out to be a bletent lie
Aymaan,
Allah ko badnam mat karo,Islam ko badnam mat karo,
samje nai to bhugato ge tum
Wo Zakir bandar kahi ka,
shaitan he wo aur tum nam k musalmano ko aur barbar karna chahta he,
Agniveer ji uska vadh karenge
Somil arya, tum log islam ki theek tasveer kyon sabke saamne nahi rakhte ho ?
Islam menas peace and islm spreads peace only
Somil arya, tum log islam ki theek tasveer kyon sabke saamne nahi rakhte ho ?
Islam menas peace and islm spreads peace only
Somil arya, tum log islam ki theek tasveer kyon sabke saamne nahi rakhte ho ?
Islam menas peace and islm spreads peace only
AGNIVEER, pichle saal america me 20,000 logo ne Allah ke deen ko apna liya aur wo sachhe aur paak raaste par aa gaye. Allah unhe maaf kar dega.
islie to hum kehte he Aymaan,Vedon ka adhyayan karo,Asli Islam ko mano,Muhammadacharyaji ka maan rakha,par tum log shaitan k jhanse me ho na
AGNIVEER, pichle saal america me 20,000 logo ne Allah ke deen ko apna liya aur wo sachhe aur paak raaste par aa gaye. Allah unhe maaf kar dega.
islie to hum kehte he Aymaan,Vedon ka adhyayan karo,Asli Islam ko mano,Muhammadacharyaji ka maan rakha,par tum log shaitan k jhanse me ho na
AGNIVEER, pichle saal america me 20,000 logo ne Allah ke deen ko apna liya aur wo sachhe aur paak raaste par aa gaye. Allah unhe maaf kar dega.
islie to hum kehte he Aymaan,Vedon ka adhyayan karo,Asli Islam ko mano,Muhammadacharyaji ka maan rakha,par tum log shaitan k jhanse me ho na
________Somil arya, tum log islam ki theek tasveer kyon sabke saamne nahi rakhte ho ?___________
islam kya kio theek tasveer bhi hai kya? lol
Muhammadacharya ji ne sach kaha tha k akhirat yani pralay k pas ate h sab nam k musalman reh jenge,he Allah jaldi kalki avtar me aye aur inka b uddhar kare
Ameen
________Somil arya, tum log islam ki theek tasveer kyon sabke saamne nahi rakhte ho ?___________
islam kya kio theek tasveer bhi hai kya? lol
Muhammadacharya ji ne sach kaha tha k akhirat yani pralay k pas ate h sab nam k musalman reh jenge,he Allah jaldi kalki avtar me aye aur inka b uddhar kare
Ameen
________Somil arya, tum log islam ki theek tasveer kyon sabke saamne nahi rakhte ho ?___________
islam kya kio theek tasveer bhi hai kya? lol
Muhammadacharya ji ne sach kaha tha k akhirat yani pralay k pas ate h sab nam k musalman reh jenge,he Allah jaldi kalki avtar me aye aur inka b uddhar kare
Ameen
Kapil iski okat nahi hai ki isko kalme me add Kara ja sake na isme koi word plus kiya jasakta hai na he less ok so don’t again
Kapil iski okat nahi hai ki isko kalme me add Kara ja sake na isme koi word plus kiya jasakta hai na he less ok so don’t again
Kapil iski okat nahi hai ki isko kalme me add Kara ja sake na isme koi word plus kiya jasakta hai na he less ok so don’t again
Aymaan Bhaijan.. Pehle to aap Tauba karen ki aapne Zakir Naik jaise gustakh e Rasul ko Allah ka bheja hua bata kar Prophet Muhammad (SAW) kee fehrist mein khada kiya hai jo gair sharai hai. Murtad ko saza e maut, gair deeni izlaas par paabandi, deegar majahib par rok, polygamy, sex slavery vagairah ki tarafdaari jaisee kitni gustakhiyan hain jo is kambakht gustakh e rasool ne huzoor ki shaan mein kee hain.
Aymaan Bhaijan.. Pehle to aap Tauba karen ki aapne Zakir Naik jaise gustakh e Rasul ko Allah ka bheja hua bata kar Prophet Muhammad (SAW) kee fehrist mein khada kiya hai jo gair sharai hai. Murtad ko saza e maut, gair deeni izlaas par paabandi, deegar majahib par rok, polygamy, sex slavery vagairah ki tarafdaari jaisee kitni gustakhiyan hain jo is kambakht gustakh e rasool ne huzoor ki shaan mein kee hain.
Aymaan Bhaijan.. Pehle to aap Tauba karen ki aapne Zakir Naik jaise gustakh e Rasul ko Allah ka bheja hua bata kar Prophet Muhammad (SAW) kee fehrist mein khada kiya hai jo gair sharai hai. Murtad ko saza e maut, gair deeni izlaas par paabandi, deegar majahib par rok, polygamy, sex slavery vagairah ki tarafdaari jaisee kitni gustakhiyan hain jo is kambakht gustakh e rasool ne huzoor ki shaan mein kee hain.
@Akhila ji
Prophet is greater than Allah,no second thoughts.
004.080 He who obeys the Messenger, obeys God: But if any turn away, We have not sent thee to watch over their (evil deeds).
So first is obeying Messenger.That is to say, your faith in God depends on how obedient are you towards Muhammad(SAW)!!!
@Akhila ji
Prophet is greater than Allah,no second thoughts.
004.080 He who obeys the Messenger, obeys God: But if any turn away, We have not sent thee to watch over their (evil deeds).
So first is obeying Messenger.That is to say, your faith in God depends on how obedient are you towards Muhammad(SAW)!!!
@Akhila ji
Prophet is greater than Allah,no second thoughts.
004.080 He who obeys the Messenger, obeys God: But if any turn away, We have not sent thee to watch over their (evil deeds).
So first is obeying Messenger.That is to say, your faith in God depends on how obedient are you towards Muhammad(SAW)!!!
LaIlah ilAkhila,
mene apko pura jee jan se mana he,aur wo Adam k bachhe se jarur milvana ap muje,
usi k karan hum log ko yaha ana pada he,uski to khair nai
beta adam ho ja tayar
LaIlah ilAkhila,
mene apko pura jee jan se mana he,aur wo Adam k bachhe se jarur milvana ap muje,
usi k karan hum log ko yaha ana pada he,uski to khair nai
beta adam ho ja tayar
LaIlah ilAkhila,
mene apko pura jee jan se mana he,aur wo Adam k bachhe se jarur milvana ap muje,
usi k karan hum log ko yaha ana pada he,uski to khair nai
beta adam ho ja tayar
kapil @ allah [swt] ko paane ke liye juroori hai ki allah [swt] ki bayayi duniya allah [swt] ke paigamabr mohammad [saw] ke nakshe kadam par chale.
agar insaan ne aisa nahi kiya to akhirat ke din unhe allah [swt] ko jawaab dena hoga.
kapil @ allah [swt] ko paane ke liye juroori hai ki allah [swt] ki bayayi duniya allah [swt] ke paigamabr mohammad [saw] ke nakshe kadam par chale.
agar insaan ne aisa nahi kiya to akhirat ke din unhe allah [swt] ko jawaab dena hoga.
kapil @ allah [swt] ko paane ke liye juroori hai ki allah [swt] ki bayayi duniya allah [swt] ke paigamabr mohammad [saw] ke nakshe kadam par chale.
agar insaan ne aisa nahi kiya to akhirat ke din unhe allah [swt] ko jawaab dena hoga.
Hello Agniveer …hw r u
Zakir mia,ap denge Allah ko jawab,
Allah ka bataya rasta Vedon ka he aur ap logo ko gumrah kar rae he,jese k itihas me khalifo ne kia he,
tauba kar lo ab b waqt he,warna ek aur janm le kar yaha sadna padega,
ye sansarik moh maya tyag k dharm k raste par chalo,Hum sab us ek Ishwar k ansh he,usi me jakar milna he aur bhatke to shaitan kabu kar ke aat gaat lalach dekar adharm karwaega,jesa ap k sath ho ra he
Allah apko hidayat de
Hello Agniveer …hw r u
Zakir mia,ap denge Allah ko jawab,
Allah ka bataya rasta Vedon ka he aur ap logo ko gumrah kar rae he,jese k itihas me khalifo ne kia he,
tauba kar lo ab b waqt he,warna ek aur janm le kar yaha sadna padega,
ye sansarik moh maya tyag k dharm k raste par chalo,Hum sab us ek Ishwar k ansh he,usi me jakar milna he aur bhatke to shaitan kabu kar ke aat gaat lalach dekar adharm karwaega,jesa ap k sath ho ra he
Allah apko hidayat de
Hello Agniveer …hw r u
Zakir mia,ap denge Allah ko jawab,
Allah ka bataya rasta Vedon ka he aur ap logo ko gumrah kar rae he,jese k itihas me khalifo ne kia he,
tauba kar lo ab b waqt he,warna ek aur janm le kar yaha sadna padega,
ye sansarik moh maya tyag k dharm k raste par chalo,Hum sab us ek Ishwar k ansh he,usi me jakar milna he aur bhatke to shaitan kabu kar ke aat gaat lalach dekar adharm karwaega,jesa ap k sath ho ra he
Allah apko hidayat de
vajra, aap hindu bhi toh atma aur uske paida hone mein aakhe bhagwan ki marzi maante ho ? mohmmad [saw] ne sirf ye farmaya ki allah ki marzi ke bina koi paata bhi nahi hilta. isme galat kya hai ?
i know only one thing…..
la ilaha illallah.muhammadur rasoolallah….
Allah ek hai aur Mohammad (saw) unke rasool hain….
islam is the only path for a perfect life….
i am a muslim and proud to be…
vajra, aap hindu bhi toh atma aur uske paida hone mein aakhe bhagwan ki marzi maante ho ? mohmmad [saw] ne sirf ye farmaya ki allah ki marzi ke bina koi paata bhi nahi hilta. isme galat kya hai ?
i know only one thing…..
la ilaha illallah.muhammadur rasoolallah….
Allah ek hai aur Mohammad (saw) unke rasool hain….
islam is the only path for a perfect life….
i am a muslim and proud to be…
vajra, aap hindu bhi toh atma aur uske paida hone mein aakhe bhagwan ki marzi maante ho ? mohmmad [saw] ne sirf ye farmaya ki allah ki marzi ke bina koi paata bhi nahi hilta. isme galat kya hai ?
i know only one thing…..
la ilaha illallah.muhammadur rasoolallah….
Allah ek hai aur Mohammad (saw) unke rasool hain….
islam is the only path for a perfect life….
i am a muslim and proud to be…
Aymaan Prince.. Aap mera comment dobara padhiye. Main is Hadith mein philosophy ki baat nahi kar raha hoon. Kuchh auraton ko uthaa kar unhe rape karne ke liye Muhammad (SAW) ke logon ne unse poochha aur unhone un logon ko saza e maut dene ke bajay unhe khuli chhoot de di? Kya gairon ki auraten is laayak hoti hain ki unka rape kiya jaaye?
Aymaan Prince.. Aap mera comment dobara padhiye. Main is Hadith mein philosophy ki baat nahi kar raha hoon. Kuchh auraton ko uthaa kar unhe rape karne ke liye Muhammad (SAW) ke logon ne unse poochha aur unhone un logon ko saza e maut dene ke bajay unhe khuli chhoot de di? Kya gairon ki auraten is laayak hoti hain ki unka rape kiya jaaye?
Aymaan Prince.. Aap mera comment dobara padhiye. Main is Hadith mein philosophy ki baat nahi kar raha hoon. Kuchh auraton ko uthaa kar unhe rape karne ke liye Muhammad (SAW) ke logon ne unse poochha aur unhone un logon ko saza e maut dene ke bajay unhe khuli chhoot de di? Kya gairon ki auraten is laayak hoti hain ki unka rape kiya jaaye?
Fazal,asli Islam to hum follow kar rae he,Jagatguru swargiya shri muhammadacharya ji saw ka bataya hua,asli ,Ved hi asli he,aur Bible b he,par har jagah asli Bible nai milti,islie Ved aur Bhagvad Gita ko mano,ye hi asli Islam he, baki sab to Yajeed ka banaya hua he bhai
Aymaan.. To kya aapko koi dikkat nahi hogi agar koi aapki maa bahano ko utha kar le jaaye aur fir unka…? Bhai insaan ho ya patthar? Himmat hai to is gandgi ko Islam se baahar faink do. Jo kitaab maa bahno ki ijjat nahi sikha sakti vo kis kaam ki hai?
Fazal,asli Islam to hum follow kar rae he,Jagatguru swargiya shri muhammadacharya ji saw ka bataya hua,asli ,Ved hi asli he,aur Bible b he,par har jagah asli Bible nai milti,islie Ved aur Bhagvad Gita ko mano,ye hi asli Islam he, baki sab to Yajeed ka banaya hua he bhai
Aymaan.. To kya aapko koi dikkat nahi hogi agar koi aapki maa bahano ko utha kar le jaaye aur fir unka…? Bhai insaan ho ya patthar? Himmat hai to is gandgi ko Islam se baahar faink do. Jo kitaab maa bahno ki ijjat nahi sikha sakti vo kis kaam ki hai?
Fazal,asli Islam to hum follow kar rae he,Jagatguru swargiya shri muhammadacharya ji saw ka bataya hua,asli ,Ved hi asli he,aur Bible b he,par har jagah asli Bible nai milti,islie Ved aur Bhagvad Gita ko mano,ye hi asli Islam he, baki sab to Yajeed ka banaya hua he bhai
Aymaan.. To kya aapko koi dikkat nahi hogi agar koi aapki maa bahano ko utha kar le jaaye aur fir unka…? Bhai insaan ho ya patthar? Himmat hai to is gandgi ko Islam se baahar faink do. Jo kitaab maa bahno ki ijjat nahi sikha sakti vo kis kaam ki hai?
vajra, aap ye naa bhooliye ki wo baat hazaron saal p ehe ki hai. us waqt ghulam banana aur unko gaur wazib tareeke se rakhna aam baat thi. Allah ke rasool ne sabko bataya ki ghulamo ki bhi izzat karo.kya aapke ved mein ghulam nahi hai ?
Islam mein aurat ko bahut onnche paydaan par baithaya gaya hai. shayad aapko maalum nahi hai ki isla, pehla aisa een hai jahan par nikah ki waqt aurat ko paisa milta hai.
kya hindu dharam mein aurat ko paisa nahi dena padta ?
Chrisianity to corrupt word he asli to Krishna neety hei bhaiyo,
Quran b corrupt kar die,shaitan Yajeed ne,Jai ho Shri Imamacharya AS ji k jo unse larte larte Allah ko pyare ho gae
vajra, aap ye naa bhooliye ki wo baat hazaron saal p ehe ki hai. us waqt ghulam banana aur unko gaur wazib tareeke se rakhna aam baat thi. Allah ke rasool ne sabko bataya ki ghulamo ki bhi izzat karo.kya aapke ved mein ghulam nahi hai ?
Islam mein aurat ko bahut onnche paydaan par baithaya gaya hai. shayad aapko maalum nahi hai ki isla, pehla aisa een hai jahan par nikah ki waqt aurat ko paisa milta hai.
kya hindu dharam mein aurat ko paisa nahi dena padta ?
Chrisianity to corrupt word he asli to Krishna neety hei bhaiyo,
Quran b corrupt kar die,shaitan Yajeed ne,Jai ho Shri Imamacharya AS ji k jo unse larte larte Allah ko pyare ho gae
vajra, aap ye naa bhooliye ki wo baat hazaron saal p ehe ki hai. us waqt ghulam banana aur unko gaur wazib tareeke se rakhna aam baat thi. Allah ke rasool ne sabko bataya ki ghulamo ki bhi izzat karo.kya aapke ved mein ghulam nahi hai ?
Islam mein aurat ko bahut onnche paydaan par baithaya gaya hai. shayad aapko maalum nahi hai ki isla, pehla aisa een hai jahan par nikah ki waqt aurat ko paisa milta hai.
kya hindu dharam mein aurat ko paisa nahi dena padta ?
Chrisianity to corrupt word he asli to Krishna neety hei bhaiyo,
Quran b corrupt kar die,shaitan Yajeed ne,Jai ho Shri Imamacharya AS ji k jo unse larte larte Allah ko pyare ho gae
Aymaan Prince.. To aapka matlab ye hai ki agar aap hazaar saal pehle paida hue hote to aap maa aur bahano ko rape hota hua dekh kar bhi kuchh nahi karte? Maa ki izzat hazar, lakh ya karod saal ki mohtaaz nahi hai mere dost. Apne zameer ko jinda karo
agar tumhara geeta wagiara sab true hai to sabit kar do fir me sabit karta hu islam saccha hai balki isko sabit karne ki jarurat hi nahi hai Q ki quraan me likha hai ki main jise cahta hu hidayat deta hu sayad abhi ALLAH ki taraf se tumhe hidayat nahi aayi hai isliye tum gumraah hu
Aymaan Prince.. To aapka matlab ye hai ki agar aap hazaar saal pehle paida hue hote to aap maa aur bahano ko rape hota hua dekh kar bhi kuchh nahi karte? Maa ki izzat hazar, lakh ya karod saal ki mohtaaz nahi hai mere dost. Apne zameer ko jinda karo
agar tumhara geeta wagiara sab true hai to sabit kar do fir me sabit karta hu islam saccha hai balki isko sabit karne ki jarurat hi nahi hai Q ki quraan me likha hai ki main jise cahta hu hidayat deta hu sayad abhi ALLAH ki taraf se tumhe hidayat nahi aayi hai isliye tum gumraah hu
Aymaan Prince.. To aapka matlab ye hai ki agar aap hazaar saal pehle paida hue hote to aap maa aur bahano ko rape hota hua dekh kar bhi kuchh nahi karte? Maa ki izzat hazar, lakh ya karod saal ki mohtaaz nahi hai mere dost. Apne zameer ko jinda karo
agar tumhara geeta wagiara sab true hai to sabit kar do fir me sabit karta hu islam saccha hai balki isko sabit karne ki jarurat hi nahi hai Q ki quraan me likha hai ki main jise cahta hu hidayat deta hu sayad abhi ALLAH ki taraf se tumhe hidayat nahi aayi hai isliye tum gumraah hu
Hindu dharm hi to asli Islam he mere pyare bhai Aymaan,aur Allah ne apko ye khush mauka dia he k apne dimag kholo,shaitan k ayato ko usme se nikalo aur Islam kubul kar lo,
hum Allah k kripa se apke sare doubt clear kar rae he,vishwas rakho dhire dhire ap Islam kubul kar loge
Hindu dharm hi to asli Islam he mere pyare bhai Aymaan,aur Allah ne apko ye khush mauka dia he k apne dimag kholo,shaitan k ayato ko usme se nikalo aur Islam kubul kar lo,
hum Allah k kripa se apke sare doubt clear kar rae he,vishwas rakho dhire dhire ap Islam kubul kar loge
Hindu dharm hi to asli Islam he mere pyare bhai Aymaan,aur Allah ne apko ye khush mauka dia he k apne dimag kholo,shaitan k ayato ko usme se nikalo aur Islam kubul kar lo,
hum Allah k kripa se apke sare doubt clear kar rae he,vishwas rakho dhire dhire ap Islam kubul kar loge
Aymaan Prince.. Vaise agar Paigambar sahib ko bhi vahi karna tha jo sab aam log karte the to fir unki duniya mein jaroorat kya thi? Pehle to log sharaab bhi peete the, 5 shaadi bhi karte the, vo kyon manaa ki?
mujhe ye batao ki tumhara main book konsi hai geeta ya ramayan ya koi aur
Aymaan Prince.. Vaise agar Paigambar sahib ko bhi vahi karna tha jo sab aam log karte the to fir unki duniya mein jaroorat kya thi? Pehle to log sharaab bhi peete the, 5 shaadi bhi karte the, vo kyon manaa ki?
mujhe ye batao ki tumhara main book konsi hai geeta ya ramayan ya koi aur
Aymaan Prince.. Vaise agar Paigambar sahib ko bhi vahi karna tha jo sab aam log karte the to fir unki duniya mein jaroorat kya thi? Pehle to log sharaab bhi peete the, 5 shaadi bhi karte the, vo kyon manaa ki?
mujhe ye batao ki tumhara main book konsi hai geeta ya ramayan ya koi aur
Vajra, nahi maine aisa nahi kaha. Galat baat to Galat baat hi rahegi. par aapko un haalaton ko samjhna padega. jaise ki draupdi ki 5 shauhar hue. lekin aaj koi bhi aurat 5 shuahar nahi rakhti. waqt waqt ki baat hai
kisi ek baat ko uthakar aap islam ko galat na samjho.
Islam sikhata hai ki har aurat ki izzat karo. islam hi ek aisa deen hai jahan par aurat se rape karne waalo ko saza e maut di jaati hai.
aap islam ko khoobi kyon nahi dekhte ?
agar eisa likha he k me jise chahta hu use hidayat deta hu,
to kya Allah nai chahenge k apne sabi bando ko hidayat de,vo kyo partiality karenge,
are saf bat ye he k Allah to hamesha apko hidayat de rae he par ap shaitani ayato ko dima me ghusae bethe ho,
aao mere bhai asli Islam kubul kar lo hum khuli dawat de rae he,AllahKrishnaJesus loves you,aao
Vajra, nahi maine aisa nahi kaha. Galat baat to Galat baat hi rahegi. par aapko un haalaton ko samjhna padega. jaise ki draupdi ki 5 shauhar hue. lekin aaj koi bhi aurat 5 shuahar nahi rakhti. waqt waqt ki baat hai
kisi ek baat ko uthakar aap islam ko galat na samjho.
Islam sikhata hai ki har aurat ki izzat karo. islam hi ek aisa deen hai jahan par aurat se rape karne waalo ko saza e maut di jaati hai.
aap islam ko khoobi kyon nahi dekhte ?
agar eisa likha he k me jise chahta hu use hidayat deta hu,
to kya Allah nai chahenge k apne sabi bando ko hidayat de,vo kyo partiality karenge,
are saf bat ye he k Allah to hamesha apko hidayat de rae he par ap shaitani ayato ko dima me ghusae bethe ho,
aao mere bhai asli Islam kubul kar lo hum khuli dawat de rae he,AllahKrishnaJesus loves you,aao
Vajra, nahi maine aisa nahi kaha. Galat baat to Galat baat hi rahegi. par aapko un haalaton ko samjhna padega. jaise ki draupdi ki 5 shauhar hue. lekin aaj koi bhi aurat 5 shuahar nahi rakhti. waqt waqt ki baat hai
kisi ek baat ko uthakar aap islam ko galat na samjho.
Islam sikhata hai ki har aurat ki izzat karo. islam hi ek aisa deen hai jahan par aurat se rape karne waalo ko saza e maut di jaati hai.
aap islam ko khoobi kyon nahi dekhte ?
agar eisa likha he k me jise chahta hu use hidayat deta hu,
to kya Allah nai chahenge k apne sabi bando ko hidayat de,vo kyo partiality karenge,
are saf bat ye he k Allah to hamesha apko hidayat de rae he par ap shaitani ayato ko dima me ghusae bethe ho,
aao mere bhai asli Islam kubul kar lo hum khuli dawat de rae he,AllahKrishnaJesus loves you,aao
Osama bin laden is here hehehe
Osama bin laden is here hehehe
Osama bin laden is here hehehe
asli Islam kisi ek pustak ka mohtaj nai he,
Dharm bohot badi cheez he Allahanant Allahgathaananta
Shahnawaz Nagori – did u bother to atleast read the intro of this page?
asli Islam kisi ek pustak ka mohtaj nai he,
Dharm bohot badi cheez he Allahanant Allahgathaananta
Shahnawaz Nagori – did u bother to atleast read the intro of this page?
asli Islam kisi ek pustak ka mohtaj nai he,
Dharm bohot badi cheez he Allahanant Allahgathaananta
Shahnawaz Nagori – did u bother to atleast read the intro of this page?
kapil, aapne quran ko padha nahi hai. agara aap use padh loge to aapki saari galatfahmi aise hi nikal jaayei aur aap khuda ke sacche raatste par aa jaaoge..
Khuda ne khud farmaya hai ki maine ye kitaab imaan wallon ki liye di hai. aur ye kitaab poori duniya ke liye hai.
aap sab pehle quran ko samajkar padho. apne imaan lao aur phir tumhare saare sawaalat ke jawaab tumhe khud b khud mil jaayenge.
Allah -hu-akbar
Aymaan,ap ek bar Bhagvad Gita padho
http://vedabase.net/bg/en
kapil, aapne quran ko padha nahi hai. agara aap use padh loge to aapki saari galatfahmi aise hi nikal jaayei aur aap khuda ke sacche raatste par aa jaaoge..
Khuda ne khud farmaya hai ki maine ye kitaab imaan wallon ki liye di hai. aur ye kitaab poori duniya ke liye hai.
aap sab pehle quran ko samajkar padho. apne imaan lao aur phir tumhare saare sawaalat ke jawaab tumhe khud b khud mil jaayenge.
Allah -hu-akbar
Aymaan,ap ek bar Bhagvad Gita padho
http://vedabase.net/bg/en
kapil, aapne quran ko padha nahi hai. agara aap use padh loge to aapki saari galatfahmi aise hi nikal jaayei aur aap khuda ke sacche raatste par aa jaaoge..
Khuda ne khud farmaya hai ki maine ye kitaab imaan wallon ki liye di hai. aur ye kitaab poori duniya ke liye hai.
aap sab pehle quran ko samajkar padho. apne imaan lao aur phir tumhare saare sawaalat ke jawaab tumhe khud b khud mil jaayenge.
Allah -hu-akbar
Aymaan,ap ek bar Bhagvad Gita padho
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ap padhiye Bhagvad Gita ko aur sachhe Allahbhakt ban jaye,shaitan k changul se nikal jaye
Aymaan.. To aapke hisaab se Muhammad (SAW) ne galat kiya ya theek? Aapke saamne kisi aurat ko koi rape kare to aapko use rokna chahiye ya nahi? Agar aapko rokna chaahiye to Muhammad (SAW) ne kyon nahi roka hoga? Jaroor roka hoga lekin us manhoos murtad shaitan ki padaish is hadith ko banaane vaale ne huzoor ki ek ghinauni jhoothi tasveer pesh ki hai
ap padhiye Bhagvad Gita ko aur sachhe Allahbhakt ban jaye,shaitan k changul se nikal jaye
Aymaan.. To aapke hisaab se Muhammad (SAW) ne galat kiya ya theek? Aapke saamne kisi aurat ko koi rape kare to aapko use rokna chahiye ya nahi? Agar aapko rokna chaahiye to Muhammad (SAW) ne kyon nahi roka hoga? Jaroor roka hoga lekin us manhoos murtad shaitan ki padaish is hadith ko banaane vaale ne huzoor ki ek ghinauni jhoothi tasveer pesh ki hai
ap padhiye Bhagvad Gita ko aur sachhe Allahbhakt ban jaye,shaitan k changul se nikal jaye
Aymaan.. To aapke hisaab se Muhammad (SAW) ne galat kiya ya theek? Aapke saamne kisi aurat ko koi rape kare to aapko use rokna chahiye ya nahi? Agar aapko rokna chaahiye to Muhammad (SAW) ne kyon nahi roka hoga? Jaroor roka hoga lekin us manhoos murtad shaitan ki padaish is hadith ko banaane vaale ne huzoor ki ek ghinauni jhoothi tasveer pesh ki hai
Main laanat bhejta hoon aisi kitaabon par jo Muhammad (SAW) ko rape karne vaalon ka supporter kehti hain. Sau baar laanat, aur jo laanat nahi bhejta us par bhi laanat
esa to Shaitan hi bolega k muje mano nai to narak k aap tumpar barpa dunga,Allah esa nai bolenge wo to humse bohot pyar karte he
Main laanat bhejta hoon aisi kitaabon par jo Muhammad (SAW) ko rape karne vaalon ka supporter kehti hain. Sau baar laanat, aur jo laanat nahi bhejta us par bhi laanat
esa to Shaitan hi bolega k muje mano nai to narak k aap tumpar barpa dunga,Allah esa nai bolenge wo to humse bohot pyar karte he
Main laanat bhejta hoon aisi kitaabon par jo Muhammad (SAW) ko rape karne vaalon ka supporter kehti hain. Sau baar laanat, aur jo laanat nahi bhejta us par bhi laanat
esa to Shaitan hi bolega k muje mano nai to narak k aap tumpar barpa dunga,Allah esa nai bolenge wo to humse bohot pyar karte he
esi kitbo ko nali me fek do jo hamare pyare Muhammadacharyaji saw ko badnam karte he
are shaitan Allah se dar
kafir
esi kitbo ko nali me fek do jo hamare pyare Muhammadacharyaji saw ko badnam karte he
are shaitan Allah se dar
kafir
esi kitbo ko nali me fek do jo hamare pyare Muhammadacharyaji saw ko badnam karte he
are shaitan Allah se dar
kafir
Shaitanroopi khalifo ne jaanboojh kar ye likh dala k Muhammadacharya saw ji akhri rasool he taki log ko bhatka dia jaye aur wo log fir kisi dusre Allah k rasool ko man k asli Islam me wapas na jaye
ye chal thi shaitan ki
Shaitanroopi khalifo ne jaanboojh kar ye likh dala k Muhammadacharya saw ji akhri rasool he taki log ko bhatka dia jaye aur wo log fir kisi dusre Allah k rasool ko man k asli Islam me wapas na jaye
ye chal thi shaitan ki
Shaitanroopi khalifo ne jaanboojh kar ye likh dala k Muhammadacharya saw ji akhri rasool he taki log ko bhatka dia jaye aur wo log fir kisi dusre Allah k rasool ko man k asli Islam me wapas na jaye
ye chal thi shaitan ki
aymaan said “waqt waqt ki baat hai”
dude morality and ethical values never changes. rape was bad and will always be bad.
if you say that time time ki baath hai ,fine then muhammad clearly fails the test of time, he cannot be regarded as a role model as he allowed him thugs to rape womens.
but the problem here you muslims beat your cheast like an ape and shout on top of your voice that muhammad is a example for the whole human kind.
what if the hindus follow this teaching? i,e now hindus form majority, now they can rape your mom/sis to satisfy thier sexual urge. so i guess you have no problem
kafir musalmano tum niklo shaitan k changul se aur asli musalman ban jao,apne Allah k sharan me wapas aa jao Vedon ko apna lo,Islam kubul kar lo
aymaan said “waqt waqt ki baat hai”
dude morality and ethical values never changes. rape was bad and will always be bad.
if you say that time time ki baath hai ,fine then muhammad clearly fails the test of time, he cannot be regarded as a role model as he allowed him thugs to rape womens.
but the problem here you muslims beat your cheast like an ape and shout on top of your voice that muhammad is a example for the whole human kind.
what if the hindus follow this teaching? i,e now hindus form majority, now they can rape your mom/sis to satisfy thier sexual urge. so i guess you have no problem
kafir musalmano tum niklo shaitan k changul se aur asli musalman ban jao,apne Allah k sharan me wapas aa jao Vedon ko apna lo,Islam kubul kar lo
aymaan said “waqt waqt ki baat hai”
dude morality and ethical values never changes. rape was bad and will always be bad.
if you say that time time ki baath hai ,fine then muhammad clearly fails the test of time, he cannot be regarded as a role model as he allowed him thugs to rape womens.
but the problem here you muslims beat your cheast like an ape and shout on top of your voice that muhammad is a example for the whole human kind.
what if the hindus follow this teaching? i,e now hindus form majority, now they can rape your mom/sis to satisfy thier sexual urge. so i guess you have no problem
kafir musalmano tum niklo shaitan k changul se aur asli musalman ban jao,apne Allah k sharan me wapas aa jao Vedon ko apna lo,Islam kubul kar lo
Freedom in determining one’s future
A young girl came before the holy Prophet perplexed and anxious and exclaimed:
“O Messenger of Allah. . . From the hand of this father…”
“But what has your father done to you”, the Prophet asked.
“He has a nephew”, she replied, “and he has given me in marriage to him before consulting me in the matter”.
“Now that he has done it,” said the Prophet, “you should not oppose it. Agree to it, and be your cousin’s wife.”
“O Messenger of Allah! I do not like my cousin. How can I be the wife of a man whom I do not like.”
“If you do not like him, that is an end to the matter. You have full authority. Go and make the choice of man whom you would like to marry.”
“By chance”, the girl finally admitted, “I very much like my cousin and do not like any other person but because my father did this thing without asking my consent, I have purposely come to put questions on this matter and to get your replies and hear this decision from you, and so inform all women that henceforth fathers have no right to take a decision on their own and give their daughter in marriage to anyone they like.”
The great fuqaha’ (Islamic law-scholars), like Shahid ath-thani [1] in Masalik, and the writer of Jawahiru‘l-Kalam, [2] have narrated this hadith, through non-Shi’ah chains of transmission. In pre-Islamic days the Arabs, as well as non-Arabs, considered fathers to have full authority over their daughters, their sisters and in certain cases even over their mothers, and, in the choice of husbands for them, they did not believe that these women should make their own decisions and having a choice in the matter. It was the sole authority and function of the father or brother, or, if there was no father or brother, of their uncle, to give them in marriage to whomever they liked.
This right was practiced to such an extent that fathers assumed for themselves this right in respect of a girl still unborn, and, when she had been born and brought up, the man to whom she had been married had the right to take the girl away for himself.
Marrying a woman before she is born:
One day, during the last pilgrimage which the Prophet performed, when he was on a horseback with a whip in his hand, a man come across him and said he had a complaint to make. The Prophet asked what the complaint was.
“Many years ago”, he said “during the jahiliyyah (the pre-Islamic period), I and Tariq ibn Marqa’ had taken part in a battle. During the skirmish, Tariq was badly in need of a spear and he cried: ‘Is there any person who can spare me his spear and accept remuneration for it?’ I stepped forward and asked what remuneration he would give. He said, ‘I give my word that the first daughter born to me, shall be brought up for you.’ I accepted the offer and handed over my spear to him. The matter was thus closed and many years elapsed. At last I recollected the pledge and discovered that a daughter had been born to Tariq and that she was of age and that he had her in his house. I went to him, reminded him if the events, and demanded the settlement of the debt. But Tariq went back on his pledge and broke his word of honour and wanted to start asking for mahr, (dower). Now I have come to you to know whether right is with me or with him.
“What is the edge of the girl?” The Prophet inquired.
“She is grown up, and white hairs have appeared in her head.”
“According to what you ask me, neither you nor Tariq is in the right. Go back and look after your own affairs and leave the poor girl to look after herself.”
The man was astonished to hear this. For a moment he was absorbed in wondering what sort of a judgement it was. Was the father not in full authority regarding his daughter? If he should pay the dower to the father of the girl, and if he were willingly voluntarily to hand over the girl to him, was that also wrong?
The Prophet seeing him astonished and perplexed, understood his state of mind and said:
“You should be sure that in the way that I have pointed out neither you nor your friend Tariq will he sinners”
Owais Sharif,hamare bhai niklo shaitan k changul se
Freedom in determining one’s future
A young girl came before the holy Prophet perplexed and anxious and exclaimed:
“O Messenger of Allah. . . From the hand of this father…”
“But what has your father done to you”, the Prophet asked.
“He has a nephew”, she replied, “and he has given me in marriage to him before consulting me in the matter”.
“Now that he has done it,” said the Prophet, “you should not oppose it. Agree to it, and be your cousin’s wife.”
“O Messenger of Allah! I do not like my cousin. How can I be the wife of a man whom I do not like.”
“If you do not like him, that is an end to the matter. You have full authority. Go and make the choice of man whom you would like to marry.”
“By chance”, the girl finally admitted, “I very much like my cousin and do not like any other person but because my father did this thing without asking my consent, I have purposely come to put questions on this matter and to get your replies and hear this decision from you, and so inform all women that henceforth fathers have no right to take a decision on their own and give their daughter in marriage to anyone they like.”
The great fuqaha’ (Islamic law-scholars), like Shahid ath-thani [1] in Masalik, and the writer of Jawahiru‘l-Kalam, [2] have narrated this hadith, through non-Shi’ah chains of transmission. In pre-Islamic days the Arabs, as well as non-Arabs, considered fathers to have full authority over their daughters, their sisters and in certain cases even over their mothers, and, in the choice of husbands for them, they did not believe that these women should make their own decisions and having a choice in the matter. It was the sole authority and function of the father or brother, or, if there was no father or brother, of their uncle, to give them in marriage to whomever they liked.
This right was practiced to such an extent that fathers assumed for themselves this right in respect of a girl still unborn, and, when she had been born and brought up, the man to whom she had been married had the right to take the girl away for himself.
Marrying a woman before she is born:
One day, during the last pilgrimage which the Prophet performed, when he was on a horseback with a whip in his hand, a man come across him and said he had a complaint to make. The Prophet asked what the complaint was.
“Many years ago”, he said “during the jahiliyyah (the pre-Islamic period), I and Tariq ibn Marqa’ had taken part in a battle. During the skirmish, Tariq was badly in need of a spear and he cried: ‘Is there any person who can spare me his spear and accept remuneration for it?’ I stepped forward and asked what remuneration he would give. He said, ‘I give my word that the first daughter born to me, shall be brought up for you.’ I accepted the offer and handed over my spear to him. The matter was thus closed and many years elapsed. At last I recollected the pledge and discovered that a daughter had been born to Tariq and that she was of age and that he had her in his house. I went to him, reminded him if the events, and demanded the settlement of the debt. But Tariq went back on his pledge and broke his word of honour and wanted to start asking for mahr, (dower). Now I have come to you to know whether right is with me or with him.
“What is the edge of the girl?” The Prophet inquired.
“She is grown up, and white hairs have appeared in her head.”
“According to what you ask me, neither you nor Tariq is in the right. Go back and look after your own affairs and leave the poor girl to look after herself.”
The man was astonished to hear this. For a moment he was absorbed in wondering what sort of a judgement it was. Was the father not in full authority regarding his daughter? If he should pay the dower to the father of the girl, and if he were willingly voluntarily to hand over the girl to him, was that also wrong?
The Prophet seeing him astonished and perplexed, understood his state of mind and said:
“You should be sure that in the way that I have pointed out neither you nor your friend Tariq will he sinners”
Owais Sharif,hamare bhai niklo shaitan k changul se
Freedom in determining one’s future
A young girl came before the holy Prophet perplexed and anxious and exclaimed:
“O Messenger of Allah. . . From the hand of this father…”
“But what has your father done to you”, the Prophet asked.
“He has a nephew”, she replied, “and he has given me in marriage to him before consulting me in the matter”.
“Now that he has done it,” said the Prophet, “you should not oppose it. Agree to it, and be your cousin’s wife.”
“O Messenger of Allah! I do not like my cousin. How can I be the wife of a man whom I do not like.”
“If you do not like him, that is an end to the matter. You have full authority. Go and make the choice of man whom you would like to marry.”
“By chance”, the girl finally admitted, “I very much like my cousin and do not like any other person but because my father did this thing without asking my consent, I have purposely come to put questions on this matter and to get your replies and hear this decision from you, and so inform all women that henceforth fathers have no right to take a decision on their own and give their daughter in marriage to anyone they like.”
The great fuqaha’ (Islamic law-scholars), like Shahid ath-thani [1] in Masalik, and the writer of Jawahiru‘l-Kalam, [2] have narrated this hadith, through non-Shi’ah chains of transmission. In pre-Islamic days the Arabs, as well as non-Arabs, considered fathers to have full authority over their daughters, their sisters and in certain cases even over their mothers, and, in the choice of husbands for them, they did not believe that these women should make their own decisions and having a choice in the matter. It was the sole authority and function of the father or brother, or, if there was no father or brother, of their uncle, to give them in marriage to whomever they liked.
This right was practiced to such an extent that fathers assumed for themselves this right in respect of a girl still unborn, and, when she had been born and brought up, the man to whom she had been married had the right to take the girl away for himself.
Marrying a woman before she is born:
One day, during the last pilgrimage which the Prophet performed, when he was on a horseback with a whip in his hand, a man come across him and said he had a complaint to make. The Prophet asked what the complaint was.
“Many years ago”, he said “during the jahiliyyah (the pre-Islamic period), I and Tariq ibn Marqa’ had taken part in a battle. During the skirmish, Tariq was badly in need of a spear and he cried: ‘Is there any person who can spare me his spear and accept remuneration for it?’ I stepped forward and asked what remuneration he would give. He said, ‘I give my word that the first daughter born to me, shall be brought up for you.’ I accepted the offer and handed over my spear to him. The matter was thus closed and many years elapsed. At last I recollected the pledge and discovered that a daughter had been born to Tariq and that she was of age and that he had her in his house. I went to him, reminded him if the events, and demanded the settlement of the debt. But Tariq went back on his pledge and broke his word of honour and wanted to start asking for mahr, (dower). Now I have come to you to know whether right is with me or with him.
“What is the edge of the girl?” The Prophet inquired.
“She is grown up, and white hairs have appeared in her head.”
“According to what you ask me, neither you nor Tariq is in the right. Go back and look after your own affairs and leave the poor girl to look after herself.”
The man was astonished to hear this. For a moment he was absorbed in wondering what sort of a judgement it was. Was the father not in full authority regarding his daughter? If he should pay the dower to the father of the girl, and if he were willingly voluntarily to hand over the girl to him, was that also wrong?
The Prophet seeing him astonished and perplexed, understood his state of mind and said:
“You should be sure that in the way that I have pointed out neither you nor your friend Tariq will he sinners”
Owais Sharif,hamare bhai niklo shaitan k changul se
Somil Arya Brother.. It was not Prophet Muhammad (SAW) who did this. He was a prophet, he could never practice rape or encourage the same. But demons like Bukhari, Abu Bakr, Uthmaan, Yazeed etc polluted our great Prophet’s sayings and life history. They even burnt Quran and created their own. They wrote such Satanic Hadith of rapes to justify their lust.
So all blame goes to so called Sahabas and Bukharis, not to Prophet Muhammad (SAW). He is our prophet, a perfect man
Somil Arya Brother.. It was not Prophet Muhammad (SAW) who did this. He was a prophet, he could never practice rape or encourage the same. But demons like Bukhari, Abu Bakr, Uthmaan, Yazeed etc polluted our great Prophet’s sayings and life history. They even burnt Quran and created their own. They wrote such Satanic Hadith of rapes to justify their lust.
So all blame goes to so called Sahabas and Bukharis, not to Prophet Muhammad (SAW). He is our prophet, a perfect man
Somil Arya Brother.. It was not Prophet Muhammad (SAW) who did this. He was a prophet, he could never practice rape or encourage the same. But demons like Bukhari, Abu Bakr, Uthmaan, Yazeed etc polluted our great Prophet’s sayings and life history. They even burnt Quran and created their own. They wrote such Satanic Hadith of rapes to justify their lust.
So all blame goes to so called Sahabas and Bukharis, not to Prophet Muhammad (SAW). He is our prophet, a perfect man
Somil @ if there is someone who is fighting with the enemy of your family. wont you support him ?
what is wrong in the statement;
If he Osama Bin Laden is fighting the enemies of Islam, I am for him.
Somil @ if there is someone who is fighting with the enemy of your family. wont you support him ?
what is wrong in the statement;
If he Osama Bin Laden is fighting the enemies of Islam, I am for him.
Somil @ if there is someone who is fighting with the enemy of your family. wont you support him ?
what is wrong in the statement;
If he Osama Bin Laden is fighting the enemies of Islam, I am for him.
Somil islam is best tumhi ek bar takrir to suno imaan le aaogi allah ki raah mohabat ki raah hai
Assalmulikum. My non Muslim brothers, kindly discuss whatever personally you would like to but never discuss about religions. Islam is a well known religion from Adam to Mohammad. I have read all the comments above and none of them a valuable thought.I am sure you guys will be better educated and get more qualified in the field of education.Honest to Allah i have no regrets personally but as a muslim i felt it as my moral duty to write to you people.You can abuse me but i have a humble request to all of you people that kindly dont talk un-accepted words regarding our prophet Mohammad.From east to west people respect His name and this will cost us nothing to do the same.
Somil islam is best tumhi ek bar takrir to suno imaan le aaogi allah ki raah mohabat ki raah hai
Assalmulikum. My non Muslim brothers, kindly discuss whatever personally you would like to but never discuss about religions. Islam is a well known religion from Adam to Mohammad. I have read all the comments above and none of them a valuable thought.I am sure you guys will be better educated and get more qualified in the field of education.Honest to Allah i have no regrets personally but as a muslim i felt it as my moral duty to write to you people.You can abuse me but i have a humble request to all of you people that kindly dont talk un-accepted words regarding our prophet Mohammad.From east to west people respect His name and this will cost us nothing to do the same.
Somil islam is best tumhi ek bar takrir to suno imaan le aaogi allah ki raah mohabat ki raah hai
Assalmulikum. My non Muslim brothers, kindly discuss whatever personally you would like to but never discuss about religions. Islam is a well known religion from Adam to Mohammad. I have read all the comments above and none of them a valuable thought.I am sure you guys will be better educated and get more qualified in the field of education.Honest to Allah i have no regrets personally but as a muslim i felt it as my moral duty to write to you people.You can abuse me but i have a humble request to all of you people that kindly dont talk un-accepted words regarding our prophet Mohammad.From east to west people respect His name and this will cost us nothing to do the same.
if you go through the biological aspect the marriage with cosin is dangerous,it can give rise to depletion in the genetic characters
if you go through the biological aspect the marriage with cosin is dangerous,it can give rise to depletion in the genetic characters
if you go through the biological aspect the marriage with cosin is dangerous,it can give rise to depletion in the genetic characters
My dear Non Muslim brothers, If you dont like the debates of Dr.Zakir Naik.kindly dont watch them.He is a unique creation of Allah.The way he is, is perfect muslim.He has read books of different religions and most of the books of Hindu religion.he does have proved to the people and Priests of Hindu religion that Muhammad Is Mentioned in Vedas. If you have a doubdt kindly refer the book and see, if it is well if it is not better.We will still beleive upon all the prophets of Allah.The one we doubt we should not accept and why dont you do the same.
My dear Non Muslim brothers, If you dont like the debates of Dr.Zakir Naik.kindly dont watch them.He is a unique creation of Allah.The way he is, is perfect muslim.He has read books of different religions and most of the books of Hindu religion.he does have proved to the people and Priests of Hindu religion that Muhammad Is Mentioned in Vedas. If you have a doubdt kindly refer the book and see, if it is well if it is not better.We will still beleive upon all the prophets of Allah.The one we doubt we should not accept and why dont you do the same.
My dear Non Muslim brothers, If you dont like the debates of Dr.Zakir Naik.kindly dont watch them.He is a unique creation of Allah.The way he is, is perfect muslim.He has read books of different religions and most of the books of Hindu religion.he does have proved to the people and Priests of Hindu religion that Muhammad Is Mentioned in Vedas. If you have a doubdt kindly refer the book and see, if it is well if it is not better.We will still beleive upon all the prophets of Allah.The one we doubt we should not accept and why dont you do the same.
umar ahmad from which madrassa university did you get your degree?
Hamare prophet ka zikr bible me bhi hai tumhara kahn pe hai
umar ahmad from which madrassa university did you get your degree?
Hamare prophet ka zikr bible me bhi hai tumhara kahn pe hai
umar ahmad from which madrassa university did you get your degree?
Hamare prophet ka zikr bible me bhi hai tumhara kahn pe hai
see ths Zakir Naik is with Osama Bin Laden,
he is a Shaitan maro isko
see ths Zakir Naik is with Osama Bin Laden,
he is a Shaitan maro isko
see ths Zakir Naik is with Osama Bin Laden,
he is a Shaitan maro isko
Nizam Khan said
” islam hame yeh taleem deta hai kisi religion ka mazaak nahi udana chahiye aur kisi dharam ke bare me galat nahi kahna chahiye”
bhia jan par modern quran to non muslims ko gali deta hai, aur app ke islamic text mie yeh bhi likha hai ke muhamad sahab ne pagan religion to insult kiya tha aur uska mazak udaya tha
“Hum jis din allah ke raah se bhatak gaye us din us ye duniya aur na aap rahenge”
aree bhai jab Adam aur eve bhatak sakte hai to tum nahi bhatak sakte kya?
Nizam Khan said
” islam hame yeh taleem deta hai kisi religion ka mazaak nahi udana chahiye aur kisi dharam ke bare me galat nahi kahna chahiye”
bhia jan par modern quran to non muslims ko gali deta hai, aur app ke islamic text mie yeh bhi likha hai ke muhamad sahab ne pagan religion to insult kiya tha aur uska mazak udaya tha
“Hum jis din allah ke raah se bhatak gaye us din us ye duniya aur na aap rahenge”
aree bhai jab Adam aur eve bhatak sakte hai to tum nahi bhatak sakte kya?
Nizam Khan said
” islam hame yeh taleem deta hai kisi religion ka mazaak nahi udana chahiye aur kisi dharam ke bare me galat nahi kahna chahiye”
bhia jan par modern quran to non muslims ko gali deta hai, aur app ke islamic text mie yeh bhi likha hai ke muhamad sahab ne pagan religion to insult kiya tha aur uska mazak udaya tha
“Hum jis din allah ke raah se bhatak gaye us din us ye duniya aur na aap rahenge”
aree bhai jab Adam aur eve bhatak sakte hai to tum nahi bhatak sakte kya?
Very well said Kapil. Vedas are the true revealations of God. Unbiased towards anyone and unadultered since dawn of civilization.
http://www.shonaton.com/archives/1526 .
Very well said Kapil. Vedas are the true revealations of God. Unbiased towards anyone and unadultered since dawn of civilization.
http://www.shonaton.com/archives/1526 .
Very well said Kapil. Vedas are the true revealations of God. Unbiased towards anyone and unadultered since dawn of civilization.
http://www.shonaton.com/archives/1526 .
Where can I find the vedas and manusmiriti in english or malayalam,… With explanations. I found Atharvaved in malayalam. It was quite cool.
Where can I find the vedas and manusmiriti in english or malayalam,… With explanations. I found Atharvaved in malayalam. It was quite cool.
Where can I find the vedas and manusmiriti in english or malayalam,… With explanations. I found Atharvaved in malayalam. It was quite cool.
____aap kehte kuch aurho aur karte kuch aur_____
jaise ke?
_____Aapke khyalat muslims ke baare mein nek nahi hai.____
modern quran mere mata pita ko insult karta hai, mai kyu muslims ke baare mein nekh khayal rakhu?
____aap kehte kuch aurho aur karte kuch aur_____
jaise ke?
_____Aapke khyalat muslims ke baare mein nek nahi hai.____
modern quran mere mata pita ko insult karta hai, mai kyu muslims ke baare mein nekh khayal rakhu?
____aap kehte kuch aurho aur karte kuch aur_____
jaise ke?
_____Aapke khyalat muslims ke baare mein nek nahi hai.____
modern quran mere mata pita ko insult karta hai, mai kyu muslims ke baare mein nekh khayal rakhu?
_____aap jaisi jabaan se bol rahe ho wo kya aapko aapke hindu dharam ne sikhayi hai ?______
app jis jaban se jooth pe jooth bole jarahe ho, oh islam app ko sikhaya hai na?
“aap kehte ho ki islam nafrat phailata hai. ”
bilkul
_____aap jaisi jabaan se bol rahe ho wo kya aapko aapke hindu dharam ne sikhayi hai ?______
app jis jaban se jooth pe jooth bole jarahe ho, oh islam app ko sikhaya hai na?
“aap kehte ho ki islam nafrat phailata hai. ”
bilkul
_____aap jaisi jabaan se bol rahe ho wo kya aapko aapke hindu dharam ne sikhayi hai ?______
app jis jaban se jooth pe jooth bole jarahe ho, oh islam app ko sikhaya hai na?
“aap kehte ho ki islam nafrat phailata hai. ”
bilkul
Hindu dharam sab ke bare meim nek sochneka updesh deta hei. Sirf atyachariyom se ladne ko boltha he. Agar koi Hindu bina kaaran kisi ko insult kare toh woh vedom ke virudh he.
fake quran 9:28 those who dont not believe in islam are filthy like urnie etc , fake quran 98:6 those who do not believe in islam are worst of creatures .
ye pyar hai ya nafart?
Hindu dharam sab ke bare meim nek sochneka updesh deta hei. Sirf atyachariyom se ladne ko boltha he. Agar koi Hindu bina kaaran kisi ko insult kare toh woh vedom ke virudh he.
fake quran 9:28 those who dont not believe in islam are filthy like urnie etc , fake quran 98:6 those who do not believe in islam are worst of creatures .
ye pyar hai ya nafart?
Hindu dharam sab ke bare meim nek sochneka updesh deta hei. Sirf atyachariyom se ladne ko boltha he. Agar koi Hindu bina kaaran kisi ko insult kare toh woh vedom ke virudh he.
fake quran 9:28 those who dont not believe in islam are filthy like urnie etc , fake quran 98:6 those who do not believe in islam are worst of creatures .
ye pyar hai ya nafart?
app logo ko license mila hai baki logo ko “NAJASUN” dirty bulne ka… what if we people start call you people as filthy just because you dont believe in what i believe. is it fair ? where is the concept of golden rule?
Aur Somil bhai Musalman nek lok he. Ha kuch atyachari he. Woh sab dharam me he. Isliye atyachariyom ka virudh karo.
does modern/fake quran has anything like this “sarve bhavantu sukhinah” May all living being be in bliss/happiness ?
app logo ko license mila hai baki logo ko “NAJASUN” dirty bulne ka… what if we people start call you people as filthy just because you dont believe in what i believe. is it fair ? where is the concept of golden rule?
Aur Somil bhai Musalman nek lok he. Ha kuch atyachari he. Woh sab dharam me he. Isliye atyachariyom ka virudh karo.
does modern/fake quran has anything like this “sarve bhavantu sukhinah” May all living being be in bliss/happiness ?
app logo ko license mila hai baki logo ko “NAJASUN” dirty bulne ka… what if we people start call you people as filthy just because you dont believe in what i believe. is it fair ? where is the concept of golden rule?
Aur Somil bhai Musalman nek lok he. Ha kuch atyachari he. Woh sab dharam me he. Isliye atyachariyom ka virudh karo.
does modern/fake quran has anything like this “sarve bhavantu sukhinah” May all living being be in bliss/happiness ?
dont be stupid SAW IS ONE AND ONLY PROPHET MOHAMMED AND NO ONE ELSE
brother vaisakh i agree most of the muslims are very good people, because they dont know true islam and they dont even bother to know about it. its only few Fanatic dawa wale muslims who cause all sort of troubles,thus we need to oppose them.
dont be stupid SAW IS ONE AND ONLY PROPHET MOHAMMED AND NO ONE ELSE
brother vaisakh i agree most of the muslims are very good people, because they dont know true islam and they dont even bother to know about it. its only few Fanatic dawa wale muslims who cause all sort of troubles,thus we need to oppose them.
dont be stupid SAW IS ONE AND ONLY PROPHET MOHAMMED AND NO ONE ELSE
brother vaisakh i agree most of the muslims are very good people, because they dont know true islam and they dont even bother to know about it. its only few Fanatic dawa wale muslims who cause all sort of troubles,thus we need to oppose them.
jaise sambala mecca hosakta hai…
btw aymaan prince you are a kafir, you insulted muhammad ji by calling him demon. http://bhavishyapuran.blogspot.com/
jaise sambala mecca hosakta hai…
btw aymaan prince you are a kafir, you insulted muhammad ji by calling him demon. http://bhavishyapuran.blogspot.com/
jaise sambala mecca hosakta hai…
btw aymaan prince you are a kafir, you insulted muhammad ji by calling him demon. http://bhavishyapuran.blogspot.com/
are islam jesa pak aur shaf dharm koi he hi nahi is duniya me jisko puch na he kese to wo mujh se puche
are islam jesa pak aur shaf dharm koi he hi nahi is duniya me jisko puch na he kese to wo mujh se puche
are islam jesa pak aur shaf dharm koi he hi nahi is duniya me jisko puch na he kese to wo mujh se puche
Md Shaikh Nur Iman , brother does your modern islam has the concept of golden rule “do unto others as you would expect others to do unto you?
Aymaan Prince kaun hai:
ek kafir jo muhammad ji ko demon bulata hai
Md Shaikh Nur Iman , brother does your modern islam has the concept of golden rule “do unto others as you would expect others to do unto you?
Aymaan Prince kaun hai:
ek kafir jo muhammad ji ko demon bulata hai
Md Shaikh Nur Iman , brother does your modern islam has the concept of golden rule “do unto others as you would expect others to do unto you?
Aymaan Prince kaun hai:
ek kafir jo muhammad ji ko demon bulata hai
Namaste Md Shaikh Nur Iman
aap bade jaankar maloom hote hain …Alif Laam Meem ke bare mein samjhaein pls
@agniveer try http://www.seekersguidance.org. This might help the troubled mind get answers.
Namaste Md Shaikh Nur Iman
aap bade jaankar maloom hote hain …Alif Laam Meem ke bare mein samjhaein pls
@agniveer try http://www.seekersguidance.org. This might help the troubled mind get answers.
Namaste Md Shaikh Nur Iman
aap bade jaankar maloom hote hain …Alif Laam Meem ke bare mein samjhaein pls
@agniveer try http://www.seekersguidance.org. This might help the troubled mind get answers.
@vajra… And Allah Knows best! I am no one to differentiate between different prophets(PBU them),my post may possibly have been interpreted in that manner. Salaam.
dont fight dear,, there iz 1 surah in quran, which means,,,,aye paghaimber sw [pbuh]keh do jin booton ko tum poojte ho, un ko mai nhe pooj sakta,,jin ki mai ibadat karta hoon,un ki tum ibadat nhe karte,,aur jin ki tum parashtish karte ho unki mai parashtish nhe kar sakta,,aur na tum uski bandaghi karne wale maloom hote ho jis ki mai bandaghi karta hoon,,tumhare liye tumhara rasta mere liye mera rasta… So plzzzzzz faisla karne wala uper wala hai… But main thing iz dat nahi hai koi maabood, siwaye Allah k aur mohammad sw [pbuh] allah k rasool aur bande hai.
@vajra… And Allah Knows best! I am no one to differentiate between different prophets(PBU them),my post may possibly have been interpreted in that manner. Salaam.
dont fight dear,, there iz 1 surah in quran, which means,,,,aye paghaimber sw [pbuh]keh do jin booton ko tum poojte ho, un ko mai nhe pooj sakta,,jin ki mai ibadat karta hoon,un ki tum ibadat nhe karte,,aur jin ki tum parashtish karte ho unki mai parashtish nhe kar sakta,,aur na tum uski bandaghi karne wale maloom hote ho jis ki mai bandaghi karta hoon,,tumhare liye tumhara rasta mere liye mera rasta… So plzzzzzz faisla karne wala uper wala hai… But main thing iz dat nahi hai koi maabood, siwaye Allah k aur mohammad sw [pbuh] allah k rasool aur bande hai.
@vajra… And Allah Knows best! I am no one to differentiate between different prophets(PBU them),my post may possibly have been interpreted in that manner. Salaam.
dont fight dear,, there iz 1 surah in quran, which means,,,,aye paghaimber sw [pbuh]keh do jin booton ko tum poojte ho, un ko mai nhe pooj sakta,,jin ki mai ibadat karta hoon,un ki tum ibadat nhe karte,,aur jin ki tum parashtish karte ho unki mai parashtish nhe kar sakta,,aur na tum uski bandaghi karne wale maloom hote ho jis ki mai bandaghi karta hoon,,tumhare liye tumhara rasta mere liye mera rasta… So plzzzzzz faisla karne wala uper wala hai… But main thing iz dat nahi hai koi maabood, siwaye Allah k aur mohammad sw [pbuh] allah k rasool aur bande hai.
Allah/Ishwar ke saath aur kisi ka naam door door tak nahi joda sakta ..kisi ka bhi nahi ..ye hai sahi Tauheed ..mere khyal mein
Allah/Ishwar ke saath aur kisi ka naam door door tak nahi joda sakta ..kisi ka bhi nahi ..ye hai sahi Tauheed ..mere khyal mein
Allah/Ishwar ke saath aur kisi ka naam door door tak nahi joda sakta ..kisi ka bhi nahi ..ye hai sahi Tauheed ..mere khyal mein
no idol worship then
no idol worship then
no idol worship then
No Mr Younus ..being rationally and spiritually right is one thing …and letting others exercise their levels of rationality and spirituality is another
so for you and me its right that we should not worship idols ..but this does not gives either of us a license to hate those who do
Muhamd ascended to jannat on riding his donkey;get discussion with allaha;from that aeroplane was invented:american conciprator get credit falsly
No Mr Younus ..being rationally and spiritually right is one thing …and letting others exercise their levels of rationality and spirituality is another
so for you and me its right that we should not worship idols ..but this does not gives either of us a license to hate those who do
Muhamd ascended to jannat on riding his donkey;get discussion with allaha;from that aeroplane was invented:american conciprator get credit falsly
No Mr Younus ..being rationally and spiritually right is one thing …and letting others exercise their levels of rationality and spirituality is another
so for you and me its right that we should not worship idols ..but this does not gives either of us a license to hate those who do
Muhamd ascended to jannat on riding his donkey;get discussion with allaha;from that aeroplane was invented:american conciprator get credit falsly
@tripathi, Allah [swt] has made this world. isnot that a miracle for you ? allah [swt] can do miracles and rasool also can do miracles because they are sent by Allah [swt].
being a non-believers and sinners you can not see the miracles. quran is a book of miracles.
and allah knows the best
Quran doesn’t have any miracles. All the miracle claims have already been refuted. It is not even scientifically ahead of its time. And yes it is great literature. But if you call great literature divine, then Shakespear will also be divine.
@tripathi, Allah [swt] has made this world. isnot that a miracle for you ? allah [swt] can do miracles and rasool also can do miracles because they are sent by Allah [swt].
being a non-believers and sinners you can not see the miracles. quran is a book of miracles.
and allah knows the best
Quran doesn’t have any miracles. All the miracle claims have already been refuted. It is not even scientifically ahead of its time. And yes it is great literature. But if you call great literature divine, then Shakespear will also be divine.
@tripathi, Allah [swt] has made this world. isnot that a miracle for you ? allah [swt] can do miracles and rasool also can do miracles because they are sent by Allah [swt].
being a non-believers and sinners you can not see the miracles. quran is a book of miracles.
and allah knows the best
Quran doesn’t have any miracles. All the miracle claims have already been refuted. It is not even scientifically ahead of its time. And yes it is great literature. But if you call great literature divine, then Shakespear will also be divine.
@abdul younus God is omnipresent. So he can be wmworshipped as idols. And we been trained to concentrate better using idols from our childhood days.
@abdul younus God is omnipresent. So he can be wmworshipped as idols. And we been trained to concentrate better using idols from our childhood days.
@abdul younus God is omnipresent. So he can be wmworshipped as idols. And we been trained to concentrate better using idols from our childhood days.
Let us all thank Rasul-e-pak Nabi-e-karim Prophet Manu (PBUH) for enlightening us with such glorious thoughts.
Indeed.
Let us all thank Rasul-e-pak Nabi-e-karim Prophet Manu (PBUH) for enlightening us with such glorious thoughts.
Indeed.
Let us all thank Rasul-e-pak Nabi-e-karim Prophet Manu (PBUH) for enlightening us with such glorious thoughts.
Indeed.
@ Fake Dr. Zakir Nayak – I want to be a scientist who accepts a thing after verifying the proves, not a believer, who closes his mind towards truth
@ Fake Dr. Zakir Nayak – I want to be a scientist who accepts a thing after verifying the proves, not a believer, who closes his mind towards truth
@ Fake Dr. Zakir Nayak – I want to be a scientist who accepts a thing after verifying the proves, not a believer, who closes his mind towards truth
tum sabb bahut clever hai par basic baat nhi samajhtey – dunia mei’n do hee dharam hain – KHUDA aur KHUDEE ka – hindu arya samaaj,christian protestant aur muslim wahhaabbi ek hi pehlu hai as they all basically believe and praise only GOD and any human whatever great he does is of no-importance i.e we shd be grateful only to GOD whereas hindu sanatani , catholic and islamic shia sufi give importance to great men also
tum sabb bahut clever hai par basic baat nhi samajhtey – dunia mei’n do hee dharam hain – KHUDA aur KHUDEE ka – hindu arya samaaj,christian protestant aur muslim wahhaabbi ek hi pehlu hai as they all basically believe and praise only GOD and any human whatever great he does is of no-importance i.e we shd be grateful only to GOD whereas hindu sanatani , catholic and islamic shia sufi give importance to great men also
tum sabb bahut clever hai par basic baat nhi samajhtey – dunia mei’n do hee dharam hain – KHUDA aur KHUDEE ka – hindu arya samaaj,christian protestant aur muslim wahhaabbi ek hi pehlu hai as they all basically believe and praise only GOD and any human whatever great he does is of no-importance i.e we shd be grateful only to GOD whereas hindu sanatani , catholic and islamic shia sufi give importance to great men also
i basically believe in zero-value of any human , whichever prophet before GOD
idol-worship was basically started by buddhist by making icons of buddha(arabic butt ) and hindu brahmins to give better competition to rival buddhists also joined hands
i basically believe in zero-value of any human , whichever prophet before GOD
idol-worship was basically started by buddhist by making icons of buddha(arabic butt ) and hindu brahmins to give better competition to rival buddhists also joined hands
i basically believe in zero-value of any human , whichever prophet before GOD
idol-worship was basically started by buddhist by making icons of buddha(arabic butt ) and hindu brahmins to give better competition to rival buddhists also joined hands
earliest man whoever they were worshipped small statues of mother goddesses covered with red ochre(sindur) all over the world(archeology has proved) evolution gave new philosophy as time went and zoraster was the originator of monotheism from whom sem,itic relegions started
these ideologies of GOD’s oneness are stressed better in upanishads not manu-smriti
earliest man whoever they were worshipped small statues of mother goddesses covered with red ochre(sindur) all over the world(archeology has proved) evolution gave new philosophy as time went and zoraster was the originator of monotheism from whom sem,itic relegions started
these ideologies of GOD’s oneness are stressed better in upanishads not manu-smriti
earliest man whoever they were worshipped small statues of mother goddesses covered with red ochre(sindur) all over the world(archeology has proved) evolution gave new philosophy as time went and zoraster was the originator of monotheism from whom sem,itic relegions started
these ideologies of GOD’s oneness are stressed better in upanishads not manu-smriti
there was a time when from greece to india grammer was GOD and another when men like pythagorous and pannini gave GOD status to mathematics – so today’s discussions shall slo look comic to believers 1000-2000 yrs from now but GOD was great then , is great now and shall remain ALLAHU-AKBAR in coming times also
from above description of great sage vaivastya Manu you are showing him as judicial contemprary of law-givers like moses and hammurabbi not the islamic prophet my dear
there was a time when from greece to india grammer was GOD and another when men like pythagorous and pannini gave GOD status to mathematics – so today’s discussions shall slo look comic to believers 1000-2000 yrs from now but GOD was great then , is great now and shall remain ALLAHU-AKBAR in coming times also
from above description of great sage vaivastya Manu you are showing him as judicial contemprary of law-givers like moses and hammurabbi not the islamic prophet my dear
there was a time when from greece to india grammer was GOD and another when men like pythagorous and pannini gave GOD status to mathematics – so today’s discussions shall slo look comic to believers 1000-2000 yrs from now but GOD was great then , is great now and shall remain ALLAHU-AKBAR in coming times also
from above description of great sage vaivastya Manu you are showing him as judicial contemprary of law-givers like moses and hammurabbi not the islamic prophet my dear
i say all relegion is false and only GOD is true – sach RABB baaki Jabb all great hindu-muslim scholars are welcome to prove otherwise
Namaste Raja Sameer
Ishwar-Hu-Akbar-est was there befroe any prophet or religion and will remain after them too.
God’s oneness is FIRST and BEST described in Vedas ..no religion teaches Tauheed in as correct and detailed fashion as the Vedas.
Manu or Panini or Patanjali or any great sage who has commented on law,sciences,grammar,yoga, language etc has quoted his source as the Vedas
the upanishadic teachings are an inquiry into the nature of Oneness …from it flowed out thoughts of gnosis to greece..and later on sufi thought in Islam ,,but then again the upanishads have their source as the Vedas
Vedas are Knowledge ..whats there to discuss when there is no religious text which cllas itself knowledge
i say all relegion is false and only GOD is true – sach RABB baaki Jabb all great hindu-muslim scholars are welcome to prove otherwise
Namaste Raja Sameer
Ishwar-Hu-Akbar-est was there befroe any prophet or religion and will remain after them too.
God’s oneness is FIRST and BEST described in Vedas ..no religion teaches Tauheed in as correct and detailed fashion as the Vedas.
Manu or Panini or Patanjali or any great sage who has commented on law,sciences,grammar,yoga, language etc has quoted his source as the Vedas
the upanishadic teachings are an inquiry into the nature of Oneness …from it flowed out thoughts of gnosis to greece..and later on sufi thought in Islam ,,but then again the upanishads have their source as the Vedas
Vedas are Knowledge ..whats there to discuss when there is no religious text which cllas itself knowledge
i say all relegion is false and only GOD is true – sach RABB baaki Jabb all great hindu-muslim scholars are welcome to prove otherwise
Namaste Raja Sameer
Ishwar-Hu-Akbar-est was there befroe any prophet or religion and will remain after them too.
God’s oneness is FIRST and BEST described in Vedas ..no religion teaches Tauheed in as correct and detailed fashion as the Vedas.
Manu or Panini or Patanjali or any great sage who has commented on law,sciences,grammar,yoga, language etc has quoted his source as the Vedas
the upanishadic teachings are an inquiry into the nature of Oneness …from it flowed out thoughts of gnosis to greece..and later on sufi thought in Islam ,,but then again the upanishads have their source as the Vedas
Vedas are Knowledge ..whats there to discuss when there is no religious text which cllas itself knowledge
I never heard about Prophet Manu in Quran. From where you get this name? Can you clarify?
zaheer abbas – you may remember a hazrat nuh with a big boat
I never heard about Prophet Manu in Quran. From where you get this name? Can you clarify?
zaheer abbas – you may remember a hazrat nuh with a big boat
I never heard about Prophet Manu in Quran. From where you get this name? Can you clarify?
zaheer abbas – you may remember a hazrat nuh with a big boat
Yes. I heard about Prophet Nooh(PBUH). You mean to say Manu is Prophet Nooh?
Yes. I heard about Prophet Nooh(PBUH). You mean to say Manu is Prophet Nooh?
Yes. I heard about Prophet Nooh(PBUH). You mean to say Manu is Prophet Nooh?
I want to suggest you one thing. If we have latest upgraded version of book, wht to follow old versions. Be positive.
Kalki sharma – now the motion is right for shastrarth – please remember yajnavalkyas (brahmin father of chandravanshi rajputs) shukla yajur ved in which the opposition to vedas is apparent right in the pre-historic times when the vedas were being presented/established so the point is GOD is the only one – our all views although different are right and truth(HAQ)at their own level
Quran is the only way to Success. Follow Quran, Its enough for each and every human being.
I want to suggest you one thing. If we have latest upgraded version of book, wht to follow old versions. Be positive.
Kalki sharma – now the motion is right for shastrarth – please remember yajnavalkyas (brahmin father of chandravanshi rajputs) shukla yajur ved in which the opposition to vedas is apparent right in the pre-historic times when the vedas were being presented/established so the point is GOD is the only one – our all views although different are right and truth(HAQ)at their own level
Quran is the only way to Success. Follow Quran, Its enough for each and every human being.
I want to suggest you one thing. If we have latest upgraded version of book, wht to follow old versions. Be positive.
Kalki sharma – now the motion is right for shastrarth – please remember yajnavalkyas (brahmin father of chandravanshi rajputs) shukla yajur ved in which the opposition to vedas is apparent right in the pre-historic times when the vedas were being presented/established so the point is GOD is the only one – our all views although different are right and truth(HAQ)at their own level
Quran is the only way to Success. Follow Quran, Its enough for each and every human being.
yes Zaheer Abbas Quran is GOD-send for you and by abiding to it you sure shall succeed here nd there but plz believe that GOD has sent some other literature too for other lingu-groups , so we must keep and preserve our GOD in our heart
and Zaheer Abbas i dont mean to say anything regarding any great man as i am already a big sinner
yes Zaheer Abbas Quran is GOD-send for you and by abiding to it you sure shall succeed here nd there but plz believe that GOD has sent some other literature too for other lingu-groups , so we must keep and preserve our GOD in our heart
and Zaheer Abbas i dont mean to say anything regarding any great man as i am already a big sinner
yes Zaheer Abbas Quran is GOD-send for you and by abiding to it you sure shall succeed here nd there but plz believe that GOD has sent some other literature too for other lingu-groups , so we must keep and preserve our GOD in our heart
and Zaheer Abbas i dont mean to say anything regarding any great man as i am already a big sinner
but your ZAKIR Naik who is commenting above has tagged a photograph of ALI on his page -
although i am much delighted at the said photo , these small steps are giant leeps towards your true faith from the forced faith
but your ZAKIR Naik who is commenting above has tagged a photograph of ALI on his page -
although i am much delighted at the said photo , these small steps are giant leeps towards your true faith from the forced faith
but your ZAKIR Naik who is commenting above has tagged a photograph of ALI on his page -
although i am much delighted at the said photo , these small steps are giant leeps towards your true faith from the forced faith
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Mohd Ariz is perplexed – raja faqeer also knows some things regarding mehboob
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Mohd Ariz is perplexed – raja faqeer also knows some things regarding mehboob
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Mohd Ariz is perplexed – raja faqeer also knows some things regarding mehboob
Raja Sameer – Shukla Yajur Veda or any veda for that matter is apaurusheya – Yajnavalkya in brahadarynkaya is talking to fakeers like you and me ..he says that you need to leave the text aside IF and WHEN they are not needed ..but the if and when are not known without them ..hence the words of the vedas become the pramana
a fakeer attached to Quran is the same as a sanyasi attached to his dandi
Raja Sameer – Shukla Yajur Veda or any veda for that matter is apaurusheya – Yajnavalkya in brahadarynkaya is talking to fakeers like you and me ..he says that you need to leave the text aside IF and WHEN they are not needed ..but the if and when are not known without them ..hence the words of the vedas become the pramana
a fakeer attached to Quran is the same as a sanyasi attached to his dandi
Raja Sameer – Shukla Yajur Veda or any veda for that matter is apaurusheya – Yajnavalkya in brahadarynkaya is talking to fakeers like you and me ..he says that you need to leave the text aside IF and WHEN they are not needed ..but the if and when are not known without them ..hence the words of the vedas become the pramana
a fakeer attached to Quran is the same as a sanyasi attached to his dandi
kalki – this is what i m stressing upon since noon – sain baba bulley shah ji said ” parh parh katebaan laye bhandaar ikk alf terey darkaar”
we have to live in accordance to scriptures not merely respect them
Raja ..which scripture is the question now
we must live by only those scriptures which are not afraid to proclaim that if they themselves are opposed to Truth then let the seeker discard them too
anyways ..for you and me ..it’s just about using scriptures as pole vaults …we must leave the pole at the right time ..or else
)
kalki – this is what i m stressing upon since noon – sain baba bulley shah ji said ” parh parh katebaan laye bhandaar ikk alf terey darkaar”
we have to live in accordance to scriptures not merely respect them
Raja ..which scripture is the question now
we must live by only those scriptures which are not afraid to proclaim that if they themselves are opposed to Truth then let the seeker discard them too
anyways ..for you and me ..it’s just about using scriptures as pole vaults …we must leave the pole at the right time ..or else
)
kalki – this is what i m stressing upon since noon – sain baba bulley shah ji said ” parh parh katebaan laye bhandaar ikk alf terey darkaar”
we have to live in accordance to scriptures not merely respect them
Raja ..which scripture is the question now
we must live by only those scriptures which are not afraid to proclaim that if they themselves are opposed to Truth then let the seeker discard them too
anyways ..for you and me ..it’s just about using scriptures as pole vaults …we must leave the pole at the right time ..or else
)
I don’t believe the holy Quran is the revised edition of the vedas. There are much too many verses in Quran which can’t be accepted and seems to be primitive observations. So stop comparing the Quran to the vedas. They can’t be from the same source.
swami dayanand was not a prophet
I don’t believe the holy Quran is the revised edition of the vedas. There are much too many verses in Quran which can’t be accepted and seems to be primitive observations. So stop comparing the Quran to the vedas. They can’t be from the same source.
swami dayanand was not a prophet
I don’t believe the holy Quran is the revised edition of the vedas. There are much too many verses in Quran which can’t be accepted and seems to be primitive observations. So stop comparing the Quran to the vedas. They can’t be from the same source.
swami dayanand was not a prophet
i fail to understand how a certain BOOK or BOOKS can solve the complex problems of this world.rather they have created more.
i fail to understand how a certain BOOK or BOOKS can solve the complex problems of this world.rather they have created more.
i fail to understand how a certain BOOK or BOOKS can solve the complex problems of this world.rather they have created more.
on what basis God selects a prophet among the humans? PROPHETHOOD is all BAKWAS they all must be in the hell.
on what basis God selects a prophet among the humans? PROPHETHOOD is all BAKWAS they all must be in the hell.
on what basis God selects a prophet among the humans? PROPHETHOOD is all BAKWAS they all must be in the hell.
Namste Guri Pawar ji ..even the concept of hell is BAKWAS ..lol ..btw , i agree with the rest of your posts
nor was Muhammad propet
Namste Guri Pawar ji ..even the concept of hell is BAKWAS ..lol ..btw , i agree with the rest of your posts
nor was Muhammad propet
Namste Guri Pawar ji ..even the concept of hell is BAKWAS ..lol ..btw , i agree with the rest of your posts
nor was Muhammad propet
Prophet means someone who is far-sighted to predict future events with reasonable accuracy. Anyone who increases his intelligence can become a Prophet. Another synonym is Visionary. We have had prophets in all fields – Newton was a prophet, Faraday was a prophet, Edison was a prophet, Netaji was a prophet. Even Abul Kalam Azad was a prophet who predicted downfall of Pakistan. Statistical forecasters are prophets. There is a prophet within each of us and is waiting for us to put efforts to increase our knowledge and intelligence.
your defination is incorrect
Prophet means someone who is far-sighted to predict future events with reasonable accuracy. Anyone who increases his intelligence can become a Prophet. Another synonym is Visionary. We have had prophets in all fields – Newton was a prophet, Faraday was a prophet, Edison was a prophet, Netaji was a prophet. Even Abul Kalam Azad was a prophet who predicted downfall of Pakistan. Statistical forecasters are prophets. There is a prophet within each of us and is waiting for us to put efforts to increase our knowledge and intelligence.
your defination is incorrect
Prophet means someone who is far-sighted to predict future events with reasonable accuracy. Anyone who increases his intelligence can become a Prophet. Another synonym is Visionary. We have had prophets in all fields – Newton was a prophet, Faraday was a prophet, Edison was a prophet, Netaji was a prophet. Even Abul Kalam Azad was a prophet who predicted downfall of Pakistan. Statistical forecasters are prophets. There is a prophet within each of us and is waiting for us to put efforts to increase our knowledge and intelligence.
your defination is incorrect
Guri pawar i congratulate you for ur belief in god’s existence and his creations encampassing the universe and beyond. but you hav to set your belief right by declaring that There is no god but allah and Prophet muhammed Pbuh is his messenger and servant, you cannot be a believer untill you say the whole part of declaration or shahada…
Namste Mohamed Fayed ..does this “whole part” of shahada appear as “whole” in the Quran ?
Guri pawar i congratulate you for ur belief in god’s existence and his creations encampassing the universe and beyond. but you hav to set your belief right by declaring that There is no god but allah and Prophet muhammed Pbuh is his messenger and servant, you cannot be a believer untill you say the whole part of declaration or shahada…
Namste Mohamed Fayed ..does this “whole part” of shahada appear as “whole” in the Quran ?
Guri pawar i congratulate you for ur belief in god’s existence and his creations encampassing the universe and beyond. but you hav to set your belief right by declaring that There is no god but allah and Prophet muhammed Pbuh is his messenger and servant, you cannot be a believer untill you say the whole part of declaration or shahada…
Namste Mohamed Fayed ..does this “whole part” of shahada appear as “whole” in the Quran ?
I have said this before. But reading the Quran I felt God to be characterized by human emotions like anger, ego, superiority complex, gender bias, etc. These are human emotions. If God also exhibits these, then He is nothing but a suppresive emperor. Quranic God is therefore more a creature than divine exsistence.
@Mohammad Fayed “there is no God but God”. Everyone can accept till there. I also accept. But the rest is not acceptable because it is a statement with no proof. Quran asks the Jews and Christians to show proof for their believes but forgets that they can ask the Muslims the same question in return. Again a human error in so called God’s revealation.
I have said this before. But reading the Quran I felt God to be characterized by human emotions like anger, ego, superiority complex, gender bias, etc. These are human emotions. If God also exhibits these, then He is nothing but a suppresive emperor. Quranic God is therefore more a creature than divine exsistence.
@Mohammad Fayed “there is no God but God”. Everyone can accept till there. I also accept. But the rest is not acceptable because it is a statement with no proof. Quran asks the Jews and Christians to show proof for their believes but forgets that they can ask the Muslims the same question in return. Again a human error in so called God’s revealation.
I have said this before. But reading the Quran I felt God to be characterized by human emotions like anger, ego, superiority complex, gender bias, etc. These are human emotions. If God also exhibits these, then He is nothing but a suppresive emperor. Quranic God is therefore more a creature than divine exsistence.
@Mohammad Fayed “there is no God but God”. Everyone can accept till there. I also accept. But the rest is not acceptable because it is a statement with no proof. Quran asks the Jews and Christians to show proof for their believes but forgets that they can ask the Muslims the same question in return. Again a human error in so called God’s revealation.
Vaisakh Mohan – their God is an arabian sheikh to be presice
Vaisakh Mohan – their God is an arabian sheikh to be presice
Vaisakh Mohan – their God is an arabian sheikh to be presice
Quran says ours is a material life and asks us to gain Allah through spirituality. Now the reward for following a Quran based life is heaven where we get 72 virgins, 300 slaves, green fields,etc. By the way all these rewards are also materialistic. It means the reward for rejecting materialistic happiness and accepting spirituality in this world is again materialistic happiness in heaven.
agniveer may Allah punish you, aameen
Quran says ours is a material life and asks us to gain Allah through spirituality. Now the reward for following a Quran based life is heaven where we get 72 virgins, 300 slaves, green fields,etc. By the way all these rewards are also materialistic. It means the reward for rejecting materialistic happiness and accepting spirituality in this world is again materialistic happiness in heaven.
agniveer may Allah punish you, aameen
Quran says ours is a material life and asks us to gain Allah through spirituality. Now the reward for following a Quran based life is heaven where we get 72 virgins, 300 slaves, green fields,etc. By the way all these rewards are also materialistic. It means the reward for rejecting materialistic happiness and accepting spirituality in this world is again materialistic happiness in heaven.
agniveer may Allah punish you, aameen
Quran ko samajhna kisi bachche ke bas ki bAt nahi
agniveer pindari aapko shraapit karkey bhasm karna chahti/chaha hai so yeh to na SAW ke mureed hein naa rishi MANU ke – yeh to durvaasa rishi ke followers hain -
Quran ko samajhna kisi bachche ke bas ki bAt nahi
agniveer pindari aapko shraapit karkey bhasm karna chahti/chaha hai so yeh to na SAW ke mureed hein naa rishi MANU ke – yeh to durvaasa rishi ke followers hain -
Quran ko samajhna kisi bachche ke bas ki bAt nahi
agniveer pindari aapko shraapit karkey bhasm karna chahti/chaha hai so yeh to na SAW ke mureed hein naa rishi MANU ke – yeh to durvaasa rishi ke followers hain -
I think the only advantage of Quran over Vedas is that it is available in every language. I read Quran in my own language. The authors did their best to make the akward verses look good(compared to the precise english translation given in Saudi Arabian official website).
Mujhe Agniveer walo ki Islam ke khilaf bebasi aur jalan dekh kar bahut khushi ho rahi hai. I request the administrators of Agniveer to create maximum number of causes similar to this and spread the propaganda against Islam worlwide and see who is victorious. Islam ki fitrat me Kudrat ne lachak di hai, utna hi yeh ubhrega jitna ki dabaoge….
I think the only advantage of Quran over Vedas is that it is available in every language. I read Quran in my own language. The authors did their best to make the akward verses look good(compared to the precise english translation given in Saudi Arabian official website).
Mujhe Agniveer walo ki Islam ke khilaf bebasi aur jalan dekh kar bahut khushi ho rahi hai. I request the administrators of Agniveer to create maximum number of causes similar to this and spread the propaganda against Islam worlwide and see who is victorious. Islam ki fitrat me Kudrat ne lachak di hai, utna hi yeh ubhrega jitna ki dabaoge….
I think the only advantage of Quran over Vedas is that it is available in every language. I read Quran in my own language. The authors did their best to make the akward verses look good(compared to the precise english translation given in Saudi Arabian official website).
Mujhe Agniveer walo ki Islam ke khilaf bebasi aur jalan dekh kar bahut khushi ho rahi hai. I request the administrators of Agniveer to create maximum number of causes similar to this and spread the propaganda against Islam worlwide and see who is victorious. Islam ki fitrat me Kudrat ne lachak di hai, utna hi yeh ubhrega jitna ki dabaoge….
who is tis agniveer comoleatly ignorent
read quran ull b clearin ur doubts abt evrytin
who is tis agniveer comoleatly ignorent
read quran ull b clearin ur doubts abt evrytin
who is tis agniveer comoleatly ignorent
read quran ull b clearin ur doubts abt evrytin
ulta sedha likhna bandh karo
n 2 vikas mohan quran is not written by anibody wo nazil hua tha
ulta sedha likhna bandh karo
n 2 vikas mohan quran is not written by anibody wo nazil hua tha
ulta sedha likhna bandh karo
n 2 vikas mohan quran is not written by anibody wo nazil hua tha
non sense saw is mohammed nabi and no one else
mohammed nabi made good profit but abu-suffian’s children stole everything
non sense saw is mohammed nabi and no one else
mohammed nabi made good profit but abu-suffian’s children stole everything
non sense saw is mohammed nabi and no one else
mohammed nabi made good profit but abu-suffian’s children stole everything
hazrat muhammad is the prophet of god not manu i m warning agniveer that not to write these foolish things and dont compare manu with our prophet
HAHAHHAHAHAH…………. agniveer SAYS”NETAJI WAS A PROPHET,NEWTON WAS A PROPHET, EVEN ABUL KALAM AZAD WAS A PROPHET……AND THERES A PROPHET IN ALL OF US”………..HAHHAH THIS PROVES YOU ARE MENTALLY UNSTABLE AGNIVEER……AND NOW WE ALL KNOW WHY YOU PUT SUCH FALSE CLAIMS ABOUT ISLAM……U NEED URGENT MEDICAL ASSISITANCE>>>>>>>
hazrat muhammad is the prophet of god not manu i m warning agniveer that not to write these foolish things and dont compare manu with our prophet
HAHAHHAHAHAH…………. agniveer SAYS”NETAJI WAS A PROPHET,NEWTON WAS A PROPHET, EVEN ABUL KALAM AZAD WAS A PROPHET……AND THERES A PROPHET IN ALL OF US”………..HAHHAH THIS PROVES YOU ARE MENTALLY UNSTABLE AGNIVEER……AND NOW WE ALL KNOW WHY YOU PUT SUCH FALSE CLAIMS ABOUT ISLAM……U NEED URGENT MEDICAL ASSISITANCE>>>>>>>
hazrat muhammad is the prophet of god not manu i m warning agniveer that not to write these foolish things and dont compare manu with our prophet
HAHAHHAHAHAH…………. agniveer SAYS”NETAJI WAS A PROPHET,NEWTON WAS A PROPHET, EVEN ABUL KALAM AZAD WAS A PROPHET……AND THERES A PROPHET IN ALL OF US”………..HAHHAH THIS PROVES YOU ARE MENTALLY UNSTABLE AGNIVEER……AND NOW WE ALL KNOW WHY YOU PUT SUCH FALSE CLAIMS ABOUT ISLAM……U NEED URGENT MEDICAL ASSISITANCE>>>>>>>
May Allah guide those who seek guidance.
May Allah guide those who seek guidance.
May Allah guide those who seek guidance.
agniveer jab aap itni similarities islam me aur hinduism me dikha rahe ho to main saare hindu brothers or sisters se request krti hu ke plz follow the path of islam shown by HAZRAT MOHAMMED COZ islam me jitni sachai hai or koi dharam me nahi.agniveer main b ek hindu thi pr ZAKIR JI sachai se inspired hokar maine islam dharam apnaya hai poori jaankari lene ke baad isme jitna sakoon hai or kahin nahi.
@agniveer thora dhiraj rakho zakir ke khilaaf muslims ko bhadkana band karo.asal me jo itne hindus muslim convert ho rahe hai isliye tum pagal ho gaye ho.zakir ji to poora sach batate hai unse kuch seekho or jhoot ko khud se door bhagao samjhe shaitaan ka kaam mat karo.
agniveer jab aap itni similarities islam me aur hinduism me dikha rahe ho to main saare hindu brothers or sisters se request krti hu ke plz follow the path of islam shown by HAZRAT MOHAMMED COZ islam me jitni sachai hai or koi dharam me nahi.agniveer main b ek hindu thi pr ZAKIR JI sachai se inspired hokar maine islam dharam apnaya hai poori jaankari lene ke baad isme jitna sakoon hai or kahin nahi.
@agniveer thora dhiraj rakho zakir ke khilaaf muslims ko bhadkana band karo.asal me jo itne hindus muslim convert ho rahe hai isliye tum pagal ho gaye ho.zakir ji to poora sach batate hai unse kuch seekho or jhoot ko khud se door bhagao samjhe shaitaan ka kaam mat karo.
agniveer jab aap itni similarities islam me aur hinduism me dikha rahe ho to main saare hindu brothers or sisters se request krti hu ke plz follow the path of islam shown by HAZRAT MOHAMMED COZ islam me jitni sachai hai or koi dharam me nahi.agniveer main b ek hindu thi pr ZAKIR JI sachai se inspired hokar maine islam dharam apnaya hai poori jaankari lene ke baad isme jitna sakoon hai or kahin nahi.
@agniveer thora dhiraj rakho zakir ke khilaaf muslims ko bhadkana band karo.asal me jo itne hindus muslim convert ho rahe hai isliye tum pagal ho gaye ho.zakir ji to poora sach batate hai unse kuch seekho or jhoot ko khud se door bhagao samjhe shaitaan ka kaam mat karo.
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