In this brief article, we shall review the second popular allegation on Maharshi Manu – that he legalized harsh punishments for Shudras and special penal provisions for upper-castes and especially Brahmins.

As we have reviewed in previous article http://agniveer.com/manu-smriti-and-shudras/, around 1471 out of 2685 shlokas have been proven to be later adulterations.

Thus all those shlokas that recommend special provisions for upper-castes and harsher punishments for Shudras are part of these bogus adulterations that are very easily identifiable.

If we review the original Manu Smriti, that is based on Vedas, the situation is completely opposite. As per Manu, penal system takes into account the education, social influence, designation, nature of crime and impact of crime while recommending punishments.

Manu offers greater respect and status to Brahmins – the educated ones. Dwijas or twice born or those who completed their education are provided heightened standing in society so far they conduct noble deeds. But when it comes to crimes, they also have to face more severe punishments. With greater potentials, come greater responsibilities and stricter punishments when one fails to fulfill those responsibilities.

(Here, I would like to emphasize once again that Brahmin or Dwija has nothing to do with birth. Its all about education.)

If such a penal code be adopted in our nation, bulk of the crimes and corruptions would cease to exist and politics will become a field where any Tom, Dick or Harry does not dare to enter and pollute like it is happening today.

For a more detailed coverage, please refer Chapter 6 of Satyarth Prakash or Light of Truth by Swami Dayanand Saraswati which is available at http://agniveer.com/satyarth-prakash/ and http://agniveer.com/light-of-truth/

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Also review Chapter 8,9 and 10 of Manu Smriti edited by Dr Surendra Kumar (Aarsh Sahitya Prachar Trust, Delhi)

We reproduce a few shlokas that are relevant in the current discussion.

8.335: Be it the father, mother, teacher, friend, wife, son or priest, one who conducts a crime is punishable by the ruler.

8.336: When the punishment for an ordinary citizen is 1 cent, the punishment for those in ruling class should be 1000 cents. In other words, the punishment for those in legislation, executive or judiciary should be 1000 times that for ordinary citizens.

The concept of immunity to MPs and Judges from impeachment and legal framework is shamelessly against Manu Smriti.

Swami Dayanand adds here – Even a peon in any department of government should have a punishment that is 8 times that for ordinary citizens. And all other office bearers should have a punishment proportionate to their designation till it is 1000 times for the topmost designation. Because unless government officials have a punishment that is significantly harsher compared to ordinary citizens, the government would destroy the public. Just as taming a lion demands harsher control and a goat much lesser control, similarly to ensure safety of public, government officials should have extremely harsh punishments.

Deviation from this penal code is the root cause of all these corruption stories. Unless this is rectified, all other efforts to transform the nation would fall flat.

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8.337-338: If one conducts a theft willingly and in full senses knowing the implications, he should be penalized 8 times that of ordinary thief if he is a Shudra. The penalty should be 16 times if he is a Vaishya, 32 times if he is a Kshatriya and 64 times if he is a Brahmin. The punishment can be even 100 times or 128 times if he is a Brahmin. In other words, the punishment should be directly proportional to knowledge and social status of the criminal.

Thus contrary to popular perceptions, when it comes to punishments, Manu Smriti is most lenient on Shudras because of their lack of education, significantly harsher on Brahmins and harshest on the government officials. In current context, the Prime Minister, Chief Minister, Chief Justice, Leaders of National Political Parties deserve harshest punishments if they do something wrong. The Ministers, MPs, MLAs, Governors, Judges come the next. Then comes the turn of Bureaucrats and Government Officials. And even a peon of a Government Department deserves much harsher punishment compared to ordinary citizens.

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Among ordinary citizens, the educated class and those with influential social status who neglect their duties deserve harsher punishments.

As we said, with greater responsibilities come greater punishments. This is the real penal system of Manu Smriti.

And if so-called birth based Brahmins indeed want to claim supremacy over so-called birth-based Shudras, then they should also be ready to accept stricter punishments for themselves. Most birth-based Brahmins do not know about Vedas. Now Manu says that those Brahmins who put efforts in other areas except Vedas are Shudras. Refer 2.168. This is insult to Brahmins. As per fake verses of Manu Smriti, the minimal repentance for harming a Brahmin even verbally is to remain hungry for a day (11.204 as per fake Manu Smriti). Thus, those who claim birth-right to Brahminism based on fake verses of Manu Smriti should remain hungry for at least 64 days continuously unless they are masters of Vedas and completely free of any vices including harsh language! (Punishment for Brahmins is 64 – 128 times that of ordinary mortals).

You cannot have “Heads I win and Tails you lose”. Either be logical and honest, follow the real Manu Smriti and reject birth-based caste-system totally OR be prepared for a minimum of 64 days hunger strike until you master Vedas. And then continue the strike for another 64 days if you still do not master Vedas in 64 days!

The bottomline is that birth-based caste system does not even vaguely fit in Manu’s scheme of society. Those who support it or recommend special treatment of birth-based Brahmins in matters of punishments are shamelessly against Manu, Vedas and humanity in general. And as per Manu, such persons who cause harm to society deserve extremely severe punishments.

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The notion of Shudras deserving harsher punishments is simply a hoax.

May we all adopt the penal system proposed by Manu Smriti to save the nation from claws of corrupt politicians, judiciary and other pseudo-intellectuals.

Manusmriti 7.17-20:

A powerful and rational penal system (Dand) is the true ruler. Dand is the propagator of Justice. Dand is the discipliner. Dand is the administrator. Dand alone protects the 4 Varnas and 4 Phases of life.

Dand protects the public and Dand keeps the nation awakened. That is why wise people proclaim that Dand is the Dharma.

When Dand is used with wisdom and responsibility, it brings prosperity and bliss among public. And when Dand is used recklessly, it destroys the ruler.

It seems that time has come that the corrupt leaders and officials are destroyed because they have misused the Dand a bit too much! Its also time that we use Dand to punish those who support birth-based discrimination in any manner.

This alone can save society, nation and humanity. There is no other way!

References: Works of Dr Surendra Kumar, Pt Gangaprasad Updhyaya, and Swami Dayanand Saraswati

 

This post is also available in Gujarati at http://agniveer.com/manu-smriti-and-punishment-gu/

This post is also available in Hindi at http://agniveer.com/manu-smriti-and-punishment-hi/

 

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manu
manu
19 days 3 hours ago

manu smirity me chiled sex allow hai likha hai ki 24 sal ka prush 8 sal ki bachchi ke sath vioah kare 30 sal ka prush 12 sal ki bacjhchi se vioah kare

manu
manu
19 days 3 hours ago

amberdker was brave he well now what is the hindutwa

MALLIKARJUNA SHARMA
1 year 2 months ago
It is a very easy method – cunning one – to say all the unpalatable slokas are interpolations and select only those which are convenient to the author. But he is the know all and be all. Before him so many Sanskrit Scholars and foreign scholars versed in Sanskrit wrote… Read more »
Rohit S Iyer
Rohit S Iyer
2 years 10 months ago
Dear Agniveerji(sanjayji), What are the punishments and are there any set of punishments specially mentioned in manusmriti?.. I need to know one thing is that, when you say that the vedas never mention anything about punishment or any good deed or bad deed then how come u can say that… Read more »
manu
manu
19 days 3 hours ago
manu ki adalat me ager pandit shuder ki hatya kerde to pandit ki saza yah hai ki uska sir ke bal mund diyejayen awr ager shuder pandit ko gali de de to uske munh me 8 ingur ki keel thonki jaye yahi manu baba ka adesh hai
AMBEDKAR IS CONFUSING.
AMBEDKAR IS CONFUSING.
3 years 5 months ago
Yeah, It is true that Ambedkar is confusing.The reason of this is that he claims in his book that Aryan Invasion theory is a n invention but on the other side he simultaneously claims that Aryan invasion is true. I don’t understand what B.M. Ambedkar wanted. In his book –… Read more »
krishnarao
krishnarao
3 years 5 months ago
Best quote from Ambedkar: “No words can adequately express the great and many evils of polygamy and concubinage, and especially as a source of misery to a Muslim woman. Take the caste system. Everybody infers that Islam must be free from slavery and caste. […] [While slavery existed], much of… Read more »
ajamk
ajamk
3 years 8 months ago
@Agniveer Hope you can reply to my doubt, even though this article is really old. Of course we have enough evidence that varna system should based on meritocracy and not just blind nepotism, we also have to consider that some sort of a loose ‘caste-system’ will form even in an… Read more »
Aashish Raj
Aashish Raj
3 years 8 months ago
i would like to ask the “MANU” to explain me how does he decide that somebody is SHUDRA ,VAISHYA, kSHATRIYA OR BRAHMIN……………………If MANU is kept in front of the modern society then tell me based on the locality where a person is staying or the type of attire he/she has… Read more »
ajamk
ajamk
3 years 8 months ago

LOL man, it seems you haven’t even read the articles properly. Read the articles and you will get your answer.

pawan
pawan
3 years 9 months ago

good article. now a days i use to see a programme on aastha bhajan channel bout manusmriti. a study based programme it is.

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KalBhairav
KalBhairav
5 years 1 month ago
@Noor: if u thin it a joke than wht abt Ram,Ganesh & Dr Shiva ( who surgically fitted the ephant head to ganesha These are mythological stories. The Ithihasas and Puranas are creative stories put in colourful language so as to expound the theory of the Vedas/Upanishads/Brahmasutras/Bhagvad Gita from time… Read more »
Noor
Noor
5 years 1 month ago
@ kal bherav ……. u considered ramayan & maha bharat as myth & colourfull story ha…. than how could i take ur religion leterally & take as true religion……. mamu starting may locha hay………ok d world is created by brahma ..than plz tell me when is brahma puja or natak?…………… Read more »
KalBhairav
KalBhairav
5 years 1 month ago
@Noor: Do you really believe in flying donkey/horse, talking ants and flying insects that can throw stones to attack Kaaba invaders. Yes or No? Or, should these instances be interpreted metaphorically? The answer to these question should be independent of what we Hindus believe, right? Sigh…why cant Muslims answer any… Read more »
Noor
Noor
5 years 1 month ago
@ Kal bhairav if think ‘(its the joke of the 21st century)’ than up coming Natak R 1 janma_astami, jis may manchala krishna kas natak 2 Durga puja jis may ram ka natak jis ka koi wazod nahi 3 laxmi puja( dipawali) is din sab bhikari dhan wan hoja ya… Read more »
Nilesh
Nilesh
12 days 19 hours ago
aur jo tum mulle karte ho wo kya hai ek aisi haqeeqat jo insaniyat ko sharmsaar karde , betiyon ka biwiyon ka rape aur ek mard ke liye ye jayaz hona ki wo sex slaves bhi rakh sakta hai , lagta hai isiliye prostition k dal dal me sabse zyada… Read more »
KalBhairav
KalBhairav
5 years 1 month ago

@Noor:

Dude. Do you believe in flying donkeys and talking ants and flying insects throwing stones? Yes or no? I already answered about the allegorical meaning behind Hindu Gods previously.

original siva
original siva
5 years 1 month ago
@bilal यदा यदा ही धर्मस्य ग्लानिर्भवति भारत, अभ्युथानम् अधर्मस्य तदात्मानं सृजाम्यहम् | परित्राणाय साधुनाम विनाशाय च: दुष्कृताम, धर्मं संस्थापनार्थाय सम्भावामी युगे युगे || read here it is from gita .the gyan of yog is for people of bharat only. and kindly do some resarch work that yoga is amultimillion dollar… Read more »
Sridhar
Sridhar
5 years 2 months ago

I now have a Divine Revelation now. I have gone to 14th hell and found YHWEH. He gifted me a boon to screw up the daughter of Samantha Francis. Now c’mon I’m having a divine revelation.

lankeshwar90
lankeshwar90
5 years 2 months ago

jai lankeshwar!

hail satan!

just to break the ice,who these muslim trolls think their impressing with their pathetic copy and paste nonsense?i mean if you want to debate,dont copy and paste you trolls,take the time to make real arguments instead of quoting that zakir naik clown.jai yazeed

adolf
adolf
5 years 2 months ago
@samantha francis: >>guess dude you r goin nuts, there is a lot of difference between lukn similar and copying it from vedas For me looking similar is same as copying and improving. Other examples of copying is shunya of india. I am not a intellectual properties lawyer otherwise i would… Read more »
Seeker_of_Truth
Seeker_of_Truth
5 years 2 months ago
Dear Angiveer I have a question related to punishemnts in Indian culture as per the writings of ancient India – specificlly Arthasastra. I clearly understand that Arthasastra is not a sacred or holy text, but is it true, that Chanakya precribed harsher punishments for the lower “castes”? Also, how does… Read more »
Agniveer
5 years 2 months ago
Namaste Arthashastra – as available today – is a good text to study administration concepts. But it does contain a lot of stuff that is clearly anti-Vedic and irrational. Very little is know about Chanakya today. But from whatever we know, Chanakya deserves adulations for his nationalistic pursuits. However if… Read more »
raj.hyd
raj.hyd
5 years 2 months ago
khud ji bhi bade ajib hai , khud ko to bahut bada gyani batlate hai lekin sangati anpadh se karte hai, apne do hath batlate hai sath me sarvshaktiman bhi batlate hai iblees ji unke samne vidroh karta hai fir BHI sAja nahi depate BALKI USKO TA JINDGI MOHALT dete… Read more »
Rushmore
Rushmore
5 years 2 months ago

Bilal, going by your logic you need to become an Ahmadiyya (if you are already not), as they had a new new Nabi / Mahdi in Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. He died only as recent as 1908. Please let me know if you concur.

Bilal , A revert (Previous name was Harish)
Bilal , A revert (Previous name was Harish)
5 years 2 months ago
The Creator and Sustainer of the Universe is One and has no second. Only He is worthy of praise. Only He is worthy of worship. He isthe Lord of the Worlds. For the well-being of human beings, in this world and the next, and to give them guidance to the… Read more »
SDC
SDC
5 years 2 months ago

Bilal, just a plain and simple question, what did you revert to and how? Do you even understand the difference between conversion and reversion? Please elaborate for the benefit of fellow posters.

Bilal , A revert (Previous name was Harish)
Bilal , A revert (Previous name was Harish)
5 years 2 months ago

Kindly go thru

“Agar ab bhi na jaage toh (If You Do Not Wake Up Now Then)”
(English translation: Now or Never by Abdullah Tariq)

SDC
SDC
5 years 2 months ago

Bhaiye, hum toh jaage huye hain, tum kaun si behosi mein ho. Mohammad is not a messenger at all. That’s it from me too.

Truth Seeker
Truth Seeker
5 years 2 months ago

@Bilal
_______The Creator and Sustainer of the Universe is One and has no second_______
Mohamad copied it from Veda 40:8, check it
http://agniveer.com/5132/common-questions-vedic-religion/#comment-19790

Rushmore
Rushmore
5 years 2 months ago
Bilal, going by your logic you need to become an Ahmadiyya (if you are already not), as they had a new new Nabi / Mahdi in Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. He died only as recent as 1908. Please let me know if you concur. And as an extension, are you also… Read more »
Bilal , A revert (Previous name was Harish)
Bilal , A revert (Previous name was Harish)
5 years 2 months ago

Last & Final Messenger is Muhammad (PBUH). That’s it.

Truth Seeker
Truth Seeker
5 years 2 months ago

@Bilal
Why Allah has became cruel on human by imposing permanent ban on prophet sending for human welfare. What fault we have done Allah does not send prophet in our era so that we can see his miracle with our own eyes.Why Allah doing this discrimination with us.

Rushmore
Rushmore
5 years 2 months ago

Why is Muhammad the final messenger? Even the guy that stormed the grand mosque @ Mecca in 1979 claimed that he was a mahdi and killed 120 people. Other than the Quranic evidence why do you think that Muhammad is the final messenger?

SAVITA
SAVITA
5 years 2 months ago
What is true democracy for India, but the law of Dharma ? It is this law that has to be revived, it is this law that must be the foundation of a true democratic India: “It has been said that democracy is based on the rights of man; it has… Read more »
shabeer
5 years 3 months ago

WHAT MY HINDU FRIENDS HIDING FROM THE TRUTH?

” IF MY POSTING WAS WRONG BRING THE EXACT VERSES THAT I POSTED ”

NOBODY REPLAY IT………………

THEN HOW CAN I POSTED VERSES WRONG TRANSLATION………….?

truth seeker
truth seeker
5 years 3 months ago
@Shabeer _____WHAT MY HINDU FRIENDS HIDING FROM THE TRUTH?___ I know your truth reciting the name of Human “Mohamad” in god prayer, killing of animals for tongue test, dream of sex with 72 virgins, Kissing of black stone to please Allah, bowing head before stone Kaba, believe in incest by… Read more »
truth seeker
truth seeker
5 years 3 months ago

@Agniveer
There is no reply option below the comments in the article
“Zakir Bhai, MBBS defends Halal meat – Answering Zakir “

Agniveer
5 years 3 months ago

Check out http://satyagni.com/679/halal/

All articles relating to comparative religions would be available for discussions at Satyagni.com. Don’t worry all comments have also been exported.

Akhila
5 years 3 months ago
@ Kaal Bhairab – Are you saying about the followings ?? yam imam puspitam vacam pravadanty avipascitah veda-vada-ratah partha nanyad astiti vadinah kamatmanah svarga-para janma-karma-phala-pradam kriya-visesa-bahulam bhogaisvarya-gatim prati “Men of small knowledge are very much attached to the flowery words of the Vedas, which recommend various fruitive activities for elevation… Read more »
KalBhairav
KalBhairav
5 years 3 months ago

@Akhila:

That was exactly the verse I was thinking of. 🙂

KalBhairav
KalBhairav
5 years 3 months ago
@Avinash: There is a quote in the Bhagvad Gita (I will pull up the reference if I get around to it) where Krishna says to Arjuna that the hymns in the Vedas do NOT matter on gaining moksha. So, Vedas are a means to Brahman, a ladder or a step,… Read more »
Avinash
Avinash
5 years 3 months ago

Namaste

Just checked this article which is gaining prominence on facebook. He is alleging that Vedas promote killing. Kindly review it and refute him.

Vedas and world peace
http://www.islamhinduism.com/hinduism/analysis/76-vedas-and-peace

krishna arya
5 years 3 months ago
see leave it … the author completely gives wrong translations .. and it has become a habit of his! you can read the vedas from arya samaj jammnagar website.. or if you have doubt on any verse , then ask it from agniveer in forum.. about translationof verse and i… Read more »
Avinash
Avinash
5 years 3 months ago

But he is quoting from arya samaj jamnagar as well. In fact half of the article is dedicated to Arya Samaj translations. Kindly see that.

Vajra
5 years 3 months ago
Namaste Avinash Dont get into his trap. Have we ever condemned giving punishment to the perpetrators? No. We want them to be punished severely. Our only concern with Islam is whom to punish and for what reason. Islam kills humans because he/she did not recite Muhammadur Rasoolullah or worshipped any… Read more »
krishna arya
5 years 3 months ago
“vedas” — in that verse does not refer to the book!! veda means knowledge!! veda means truth !! veda means what is correct !! veda means dharma!! to do theft , is not vedic….. a person who does theft and justifies theft is a ved-nindak!! a person who justifies something… Read more »
Avinash
Avinash
5 years 3 months ago

What about this verse which he has given. I check from the jamnagar website. It is correct translation. Atharva Veda 12/5/62


It mentions that those who reject Vedas are to be killed.

arya
arya
5 years 3 months ago
muslims claim that allah is formless but can they unclaim these things?? 1.Then the Almighty will come to them in a shape other than the one which they saw the first time, and He will say, ‘I am your Lord,’ and they will say, ‘You are not our Lord.’ And… Read more »
Akhila
5 years 3 months ago
@ Shabeer So it is suggested that, dont go by the literal meaning of any particular verse of a chapter. read the entire chapter. And remember it is a poem, and the literal translation may not be exact meaning of the sloka. So read in full, understand the summary, then… Read more »
Akhila
Akhila
5 years 3 months ago
@Shabeer.. I am answering part of your question now relating to Bhagvat Geet. The sloka writen by is – चातुर्वर्न्यम मया सर्ष्टाम गुण कर्मविभागशः / तस्य कर्तारमपि माम विद्या कर्तारं अव्ययम // गुण और कर्मों के विभाग से ब्रह्मण, क्षत्रिय वैश्य और शुद्र मेरे द्वारा रचे गए हैं / उनके… Read more »
KalBhairav
KalBhairav
5 years 3 months ago

@Revert/Convert/other vert:

Good ,then keep on your Lol till your resurrection, after your resurrection then you wil automatically Cry.

So, what. It is my problem then. Not yours.

Bilal, A revert (previous name was Harish)
Bilal, A revert (previous name was Harish)
5 years 3 months ago

I thought i would get reply from Moderator about the Myth above.
Mythology is a collection of myths, or the study of them.

truth seeker
truth seeker
5 years 3 months ago
@Bilal, A revert (previous name was Harish Well done brother you converted into Islam, really is Islam inspiring. I feel also very happy to imagin 55 years old man Muhamad with his 6 years old child wife Ayesha. If you have a painting in which both husband & wife are… Read more »
cutbulla
cutbulla
4 years 1 month ago
If one wants to be a true muslim one must marry his 6 yr old daughter to a 55 yr old married man. Hinduism is not static.Manu’s laws then came Chanyakya;s laws…..till Chatrpati Shivaji –all evolved and refined according to times and places. But for muslims what was applicable 1400… Read more »
Bilal , A revert (Previous name was Harish)
Bilal , A revert (Previous name was Harish)
5 years 3 months ago

Your’s is great work.
Ayesh was 19 years old at the time of the consummation of her marriage, and 14 years old at the time of her nikah.

truth seeker
truth seeker
5 years 3 months ago
@Bilal , A revert You are idiot & Kufr Ayesha was six years old at time of Nikah & she was 9 years old when Muhmad broke her virginity. Do not talk against Kuran & Hadis, these are pious book for me. Mohamad Ji have taught us how to behave… Read more »
truth seeker
truth seeker
5 years 3 months ago
@Bilal , A revert (Previous name was Harish) By the way what is problem believing in Ayesha was six year old at the time of marriage, after all there should not problem for blind believer who believe stone weeps, Breaking of Moon, Mohamad riding on donkey went on 7th sky… Read more »
Bilal , A revert (Previous name was Harish)
Bilal , A revert (Previous name was Harish)
5 years 3 months ago

I feel Your a better idiot then me. Keep it up

Vajra
5 years 3 months ago
Namaste Harish (who unfortunately converted to Bilal) Please let us know first why you are so interested in the word “myth”! Anyway, to cut the answer short, I must tell that believing in breaking the moon, a virgin giving birth to baby, weeping of stones, flying donkey of Muhammad in… Read more »
Bilal , A revert (Previous name was Harish)
Bilal , A revert (Previous name was Harish)
5 years 3 months ago
Who told you that believing in breaking the moon, a virgin giving birth to baby, weeping of stones, flying donkey of Muhammad in Shab e Meraj etc can be termed as MYTH. It’s a real fact. Finding what the truth is, is the motivation behind embracing Islam, I am the… Read more »
Apolloreach
Apolloreach
5 years 3 months ago
If you claim you are a revert, you are implying the cliched belief that Islam existed aeons ago and that every baby is born into Islam. But the truth is that no child would even know the word God (in repsective Mother tongues) till the child’s Parent(s) make an effort… Read more »
Vajra
5 years 3 months ago
Namaste Harish If believing in breaking of moon, virgin giving birth to baby, weeping of stones, flying donkey of Muhammad in Shab e Meraj etc are real facts for you, what is that that is myth in the world? What wrong you found in Hinduism? What good you found in… Read more »
truth seeker
truth seeker
5 years 3 months ago

@Bilal , A revert (Previous name was Harish) says

The word “Hindu” nowhere mention in Veda, Geeta, Ramayan, Mahabharat. Veda are for all.

Bilal , A revert (Previous name was Harish)
Bilal , A revert (Previous name was Harish)
5 years 3 months ago

Before discussing on Qur’an and Vedas. I would like to ask u a question.
where is the word Hindu or religion Hindu is mentioned among the 4 vedas, like which volume, chapter, verses ? Plz clarifiy on this ?

truth seeker
truth seeker
5 years 3 months ago

@Bilal , A revert (Previous name was Harish)
Once Muhmad Ji had gone on a journey of 7th sky to meet Allah, is it myth or real?

Jasmine Suhel
5 years 3 months ago

Yes @Bilal. The Prophet Muhammad s.a.w. had gone on a Journey called Mairaj wal Isra, first from Makkah to Al Aqsa in Jerusalem then from there to Sidratu Muntaha in the Heaven sitting on his Buraq (Angel who carried him) to the farthest Heaven. And Allah knows best. http://www.facebook.com/juhisuhel

truth seeker
truth seeker
5 years 3 months ago

@Bilal , A revert (Previous name was Harish)

Allah sitting on his throne on 7th sky watching all of us, is myth or reality?

KalBhairav
KalBhairav
5 years 3 months ago

@Revert/Convert/other verts…

Who told you that believing in breaking the moon, a virgin giving birth to baby, weeping of stones, flying donkey of Muhammad in Shab e Meraj etc can be termed as MYTH. It’s a real fact.

Lol. Thats the joke of the day for me.

Noor
Noor
5 years 1 month ago

@kal bhairab if u thin it a joke than wht abt Ram,Ganesh & Dr Shiva ( who surgically fitted the ephant head to ganesha , dont he have a spare head of human ) mamu mat bhan apna akal lagaw…

Vajra
5 years 3 months ago
Brother Harish Just look what happens when someone starts taking Quran seriously. Believing in breaking of moon, virgin giving birth to baby, weeping of stones, flying donkey of Muhammad in Shab e Meraj etc are real facts for you! So obviously an unbroken moon, baby with parents, unconscious stones and… Read more »
Bilal , A revert (Previous name was Harish)
Bilal , A revert (Previous name was Harish)
5 years 3 months ago

Good ,then keep on your Lol till your resurrection, after your resurrection then you wil automatically Cry.

raj.hyd.
raj.hyd.
5 years 3 months ago

manniy om prkash ji , arsh sahitya prachar trasht 455 khari bavli dilli- 6 se bhi vishuddh manusmriti mil sakti hai ! aap chahe to to vahan bhi sampark kar sakte hai !

Om prakash
Om prakash
5 years 3 months ago
aadarneey agniveer ji maine manusmriti ka vastvik vishleshn padha. kya dr. surendrkumar ji dwara rachit prakshep viheen manu smriti hindi mein bhi hai. main use kharidana chahta hoon. mujhe is granth ko tatkal kharidkar adhyayn karna aur samaj mein vyapt iske virudh bhrantiyon ko door karne ka pryas shuru karana… Read more »
Agniveer
5 years 3 months ago
सुरेन्द्र कुमारजी द्वारा भाषित मनुस्मृति हिंदी में ही है. यह दो संस्करण में उपलब्ध है – एक में केवल विशुद्ध श्लोकों को समाविष्ट किया गया है. दूसरे में सभी श्लोक उपलब्ध हैं किन्तु प्रक्षिप्त श्लोकों का विश्लेषण किया गया है. आप ये पुस्तकें http://www.vedicbooks.com से प्राप्त कर सकते हैं. समस्या… Read more »
SinghRK
SinghRK
6 months 15 days ago
No one one earth can convince a Dalit that Manu Smriti is Godly Granth, as they suffered because of it only, as is taught by Baba Saheb Ambedkar and several other Hindu Social Reformers. The list of such Hindu reformers is endless. There are many good Hindu religious Books which… Read more »
Bilal
Bilal
5 years 3 months ago
What is Myth ? U people think first about this. –noun 1. a traditional or legendary story, usually concerning some being or hero or event, with or without a determinable basis of fact or a natural explanation, especially one that is concerned with deities or demigods and explains some practice,… Read more »
ashwani
ashwani
5 years 4 months ago
i am so happy to see this article. i think this theory can easily eradicate our society from evils of caste system but the problem is our leaders and politicians and dalits also because they don’t want to be called equal to others that may harm their interests.Why to call… Read more »
learner
learner
5 years 4 months ago

aha …!!
i am totally speechless on the excellent system for punishment in ManuSmriti.
the point that stricter punishment for the more knowledgeable one, is clearly very good and makes me feel that should be in an ideal system. i hope indian goverment also reads manu smriti.

Harshavardhan
Harshavardhan
5 years 4 months ago
Namaskaar , “The punishment should be directly proportional to knowledge and social status of the criminal. ” Simple and LOGICAL . Also we must not forget “Dharmo Rakshti Rakshitah.” ( – Manusruti.) Lot of peoples forgot this , and it is creating the problems of converting , problems before our… Read more »
Truth Seeker
Truth Seeker
5 years 4 months ago
@Muslim Scholar Q Where Osama will go after death is it hell or heaven? As you all would be aware Osama bin Landen killed by America. Q. How many virgin will be served to Osama by Allah? Q. If a Jihadi killed a kufr he get 72 virgin in heaven… Read more »
Truth Seeker
Truth Seeker
5 years 4 months ago

Please write a article on Osama-Bin-Laden and his life in janat after death according to Pious Kuran?

shakirulhassan
3 years 7 months ago

the quran gurantees rest for the moomin merely not for those who force the innocents and like others to suffer. jannat is only for those who love allah and humanity, not those who kill humanity mercilessly.

hinduagnostic
hinduagnostic
3 years 7 months ago

in a way he was fighting for islam just like muhammad

Msj
Msj
5 years 4 months ago
Namaste Agniveer Ji, Great information you are providing, we are thankful to you. Sir, I have a query regarding manu Smiriti I am asking it you because you have perhaps read all Manu Smiriti. There is a belief in society & I have also listened from a scholar of Ramayan… Read more »
shakirulhassan
3 years 7 months ago

when the text is rancided and adultrated where can we get a refined and finely crafted society. and u have not answered my question yet, why?

KalBhairav
KalBhairav
5 years 4 months ago
Good one! Muslim and Christian terrorists who accuse Hinduism of discriminatory caste system should support: (a)rejection of birth-based caste system. (b)reinterpretation of their own religion which specializes in divine discrimination – heaven for believers, hell for nonbelievers 🙁 That is infinitely worse than man-made caste system. Oh Christians and Muslims… Read more »
shakirulhassan
3 years 7 months ago

who’s a hindu? can u tell me?
i know sutras as well as smiritis. Anyway, have u ever read a single chapter of the bible or the quran?

Vajra
5 years 4 months ago

Brother KalBhairav

I am sure you will go empty handed from this thread too just like all previous ones 🙁 Its too much you are demanding from Jihadis to be honest and truthful.

KalBhairav
KalBhairav
5 years 4 months ago
@Vajra: Its too much you are demanding from Jihadis to be honest and truthful. Indeed 🙁 No Muslim/Christian seems willing to accept that their God is discriminative. If I dont believe in the exclusivity of their respective prophets I am automatically hell-bound. If that is not discrimination I dont know… Read more »
samantha francis
samantha francis
5 years 2 months ago
@kal Bhairav everything is thrash worhty except your true vedic relegion :(, so sad of me :(, i m really broken into pieces :(, also Mr Kal Bhairav if you are a true peson who believes in vedas , please change ur lovely name as it represents “the fierce manifestation… Read more »
Ramachandran
Ramachandran
4 years 7 days ago

@samantha francis,

Kal Bhaurav can keep any name what his parents have put. He is respecting his parents by keeping it. You or your fore fathers who don’t have that need not comment.

Truth Seeker
Truth Seeker
5 years 4 months ago
@All Muslim Brother/Scholars There is a lot of hue-cry on prophet. There are tall claims on Mohamd discoveries. But I could not get answer to a simple question that what special Mohamad discover which was not mention in earlier scripture Veda? I have read long debate over the prophecy of… Read more »
Md Noor
Md Noor
5 years 1 month ago
@ truth seeker mohammad did not discover any thing new……. he was told by allha abt embrology. water cycle & many more ….. he didnt said new thing but he authenticate d old thing like oneness of god like ur vedha said ……. which ur shri shri Ravi Shanker also… Read more »
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