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- Part 4 – The Corollary
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Theory of Karma
- What is Theory of Karma?
- Does it mean happiness alone is goal of life?
- What about those people who sacrifice their own happiness for sake of others?
- Are thoughts everything? What about actions?
- How do we decide what thoughts will lead to happiness and what thoughts will not?
- How do we decide what is truth?
- How does Theory of Karma works?
- What about animals and lower species? How can they exercise their will?
- What about accidents and events on which we have no control through our thoughts?
- Why do we not remember our past lives?
- Why we get punishment for acts of past life we do not even remember?
- Why do good people have to face so many miseries when they have good thoughts and good actions?
- Why we see bad people getting so powerful?
- What is the purpose of Theory of Karma?
- Why does God test us?
- What is the goal of life?
- Even Sex, Boozing, Sensuality et al give us happiness? Is it right as per Theory of Karma?
- Does God not forgive all our past sins, if we seek apology for our misdeeds?
- Is there a framework to understand how to start using this Will properly?
- Where can I learn it?
Question: What is Theory of Karma?
Answer:
Put simply, theory of Karma states that
1. Your thoughts become reality.
2. Inversely, your present reality is nothing but a cumulative manifestation of whatever thoughts you decided to think of till date. These include both the conscious and unconscious thoughts.
3. The purpose of this reality is to help you rise above sorrow and achieve bliss. And you can change your reality to higher bliss by changing your thoughts.Thus, life is not an unplanned random chemical reaction. Instead, life and world around is a well-planned system built to guide you towards bliss. And the way to use this system effectively is through directing the thoughts towards achievement of bliss.
1. Your thoughts become reality.
2. Inversely, your present reality is nothing but a cumulative manifestation of whatever thoughts you decided to think of till date. These include both the conscious and unconscious thoughts.
3. The purpose of this reality is to help you rise above sorrow and achieve bliss. And you can change your reality to higher bliss by changing your thoughts.Thus, life is not an unplanned random chemical reaction. Instead, life and world around is a well-planned system built to guide you towards bliss. And the way to use this system effectively is through directing the thoughts towards achievement of bliss.
Question: Does it mean happiness alone is goal of life?
Answer:
Exactly. The only goal of life is to achieve happiness or bliss. And the way to achieve it is through proper understanding of the mechanism of the life system and directing our thoughts towards most optimal use of this system.
Question: What about those people who sacrifice their own happiness for sake of others?
Answer:
They do not sacrifice their happiness, they merely sacrifice their short-term conveniences in pursuit of higher levels of happiness. The satisfaction derived from selflessness is way above the happiness derived from mundane activities. You can compare it with our own lives. As children, we enjoy many activities like eating soil. But as we grow up, we seek higher levels of pleasure and will never be eager to exchange these pleasures with many of the childish pleasures.As you will realize, the way the world has been designed, we are all closely interdependent like various molecules of water in a pond. We cannot maximize our individual happiness without maximizing the happiness of the world. So smart people trade-off their short-term conveniences for significantly higher levels of happiness derived from thinking about and acting for betterment of the world.
Question: Are thoughts everything? What about actions?
Answer:
Thoughts are not everything. But they are the only starting point we have in our control. Everything else including our actions are next steps of the process that starts with each thought. All we do and achieve starts with a thought in the mind. Even the thought of ‘empty thinking without action’ is a thought we decide to accept that leads us to the resulting consequences as per Theory of Karma. And decision to act is also a thought we decide to accept.And as we would realize, thoughts that do not culminate into actions, in general, lead us away from bliss. In complete framework, three aspects of this thought should go hand in hand – Knowledge, Actions and Contemplation. A thought system that encompasses all the three is necessary.
Question: How do we decide what thoughts will lead to happiness and what thoughts will not?
Answer:
There are various ways to decide it. But the fundamental principle is that
Truth=BlissConsider two forces to be operating in our lives: Knowledge and Ignorance. Knowledge leads us to truth and Ignorance away from truth. And they are controlled by our most fundamental thought – the Will or Sankalpa in Sanskrit. This Sankalpa or Will leads to further thoughts which result in consequent actions and these result in the reality we face. If we direct our Will to pursuit of Truth, we will move closer to Bliss. And away from Bliss otherwise.The rest of the ways are merely expansions of this basic principle, Truth = Bliss
Truth=BlissConsider two forces to be operating in our lives: Knowledge and Ignorance. Knowledge leads us to truth and Ignorance away from truth. And they are controlled by our most fundamental thought – the Will or Sankalpa in Sanskrit. This Sankalpa or Will leads to further thoughts which result in consequent actions and these result in the reality we face. If we direct our Will to pursuit of Truth, we will move closer to Bliss. And away from Bliss otherwise.The rest of the ways are merely expansions of this basic principle, Truth = Bliss
Question: How do we decide what is truth?
Answer:
There are various ways. Basically its an evolutionary approach. Decision of truth demands exclusion of all sorts of blind beliefs and an openness to change the stand as and when we get new information and facts. The essential component is again, a Will or Sankalpa to accept the truth.The various methods include:
a. Process of elimination. Like a smart CAT or GMAT aspirant, one should immediately reject those choices which are obviously false, based on reasoning and fact. For example, when we know that earth is round, all theories based on hypothesis of earth being flat, including so-called religious books should immediately be rejected.
b. Testing for internal contradictions in an hypothesis. For example, a theory says that God is just. And then it says that He shall put more women in Hell. Now both these statements contradict each other. Hence they are worth immediate rejection.
c. Internal analysis and reasoning.
d. Verification of facts
etc.This is a science in itself requiring detailed analysis and contemplation. But the only prerequisite to understand it is a Will seeking truth.
a. Process of elimination. Like a smart CAT or GMAT aspirant, one should immediately reject those choices which are obviously false, based on reasoning and fact. For example, when we know that earth is round, all theories based on hypothesis of earth being flat, including so-called religious books should immediately be rejected.
b. Testing for internal contradictions in an hypothesis. For example, a theory says that God is just. And then it says that He shall put more women in Hell. Now both these statements contradict each other. Hence they are worth immediate rejection.
c. Internal analysis and reasoning.
d. Verification of facts
etc.This is a science in itself requiring detailed analysis and contemplation. But the only prerequisite to understand it is a Will seeking truth.
Question: How does Theory of Karma works?
Answer:
It works instantaneously. Each thought in the mind produces a a certain pattern of neuron firing in the mind. Based on this, various physiological changes start taking place including change in hormonal levels, heart-rate etc. Further, even the neurological patterns start adapting to this thought. Thus, if you think of same thing again and again, the neurons create a pattern that next time it is easier to take that thought process ahead. That is why we see people getting into good or bad habits. These thoughts define one’s thinking patterns, and hence his or her personality, health and actions.Thus, each thought influences who we are. And by changing this thought, we can decide who we would be. Further, the same process is happening among all humans. And when we interact with them, based on our thought patterns we produce a myriad of social patterns and behaviors, which further influence who we are.Not only humans and society, this influence is also extended to nature in general because we are designed to exchange matter and energy continuously with nature. Thus we would see that merely by will-power, at times, unbelievable miracles happen in medical science.Thus thoughts become our destiny. We, the souls, are different from our body and mind. And when we die, the body and mind (brain) stop having sustainable exchange of matter and energy with nature, and hence the system decays to death. But the soul, who was controlling this system, is unaffected.
Now it gets into another emerging system (mind-body) and starts its journey again. Because memories are part of brain cells, they get destroyed in this migration process. But the soul carries a vital body with it which carries the Sanskaars (traits) with it. God ensures that the new system provided is the best fit for uninterrupted journey ahead for the soul. Now, based on traits, the soul develops its personality again. It also continues interaction with the world outside in the same manner as it was doing earlier and continues to evolve itself.
At each moment, God ensures that situation we face in the world is best suited for our pursuit of ultimate bliss. This is a continuous optimization process. If we exercise our will to do stupid things, stupid situations emerge and we start a descending to unhappiness. If we exercise our will to do things in pursuit of truth, we ascend. This process is uninterrupted by death.
Question: What about animals and lower species? How can they exercise their will?
Answer:
Broadly speaking, only humans have the potential to exercise their will. Other species can only accept what happens to them and cannot exercise their will? When a soul descends too low that it no more exercises its will as a human, then it gets birth as animals where these tendencies that it had collected can be purged out. Same is case with those born insane or terminally ill.Please note that it is a multi-dimensional world. So depending upon the thought patterns in these various dimensions and aspects of life, the potential combinations are virtually infinite. It is not a discrete system but completely continuous. Thus conditions vary for birth of each soul – in different species, conditions, health, society etc.
Question: What about accidents and events on which we have no control through our thoughts?
Answer:
Critically analyzing, on most of these events we have a control through our collective intelligence. Thus, collectively we all are responsible for terrorism and environmental damage. And we all can do something about it even individually. We can never absolve ourselves of any responsibility on pretext of we being one single individual, as per Theory of Karma.The birth we got on this earth was best suited to our future growth (as bliss seekers) given our traits and tendencies so far. These include our exercise of will in social aspects as well. So the events we face are also consequence of our actions.There are certain events we face without any apparent control of ours. They result out of our past actions. In any case, none of the events hamper our eligibility to seek further happiness ever. At best, there may be a temporary delay, based on theory of Karma. And even this delay can be used to further elevate ourselves on certain other aspects that we may have missed so far. Remember, its a multi-dimensional world with variety of aspects to look into.
Question: Why do we not remember our past lives?
Answer:
Because in general, they are unnecessary to fulfill our goals. Remember that this is a completely optimized process with no scope for redundancies. If we remember our past lives, we would not be able to look ahead. Thus, most of the events of even this birth are not remembered by us, forget about past life. Its a natural law that only what is relevant is remembered. And when people try to break this law by living in past, they get into a variety of mental problems because of indulgence in an unnatural act.The maximum pleasure we derive in life is by living in present and directing our efforts to future. That is why, perhaps the common word to mean Ghost and Past is Bhoot in Sanskrit.
(By the way, there are no ghosts as per Theory of Karma!)
(By the way, there are no ghosts as per Theory of Karma!)
Question: Why we get punishment for acts of past life we do not even remember?
Answer:
There is no concept of punishment and reward, in the sense we normally understand, in Theory of Karma. There is only a continuous self-correcting optimization process directed towards maximization of bliss or happiness. Unlike commonly believed, it is never that suddenly a disaster happens in life out of blue. There are no discontinuities in Theory of Karma.An example is case of diabetes. It does not happen suddenly one night. On contrary, due to bad lifestyle habits, we keep accumulating diabetes. And when symptoms start manifesting in middle age, we term ourselves as diabetic. But in reality, this did not happen in one single day. We were always diabetic from first time we did something contrary to good health habits. And each moment that we lived healthy, we moved away from diabetes. But each moment, we ignored health issues. we were a step closer. The final manifestation of the disease represents cumulative effect of the entire journey. Now we may not remember even 1% of the acts we did to cause our diabetes, but still we turn diabetic, because our tendencies were diabetic.Similarly, even though we do not remember our past lives, our current tendencies are a cumulative summary of our entire history. Details of specific events are not important. The so called punishments that seem to come out of blue are nothing but continuation of those traits that got manifested into visible symptoms presently.And the way out again is simple- refine our thought process. As we refine our thought process and start learning how to use our Will for increased happiness, we shall stop accumulating tendencies that cause grief. And then these so-called punishments will cease to erupt.
Question: Why do good people have to face so many miseries when they have good thoughts and good actions?
Answer:
1. Happiness is a state of mind. What we often consider as misery is nothing but short-term inconveniences that anyone would gladly trade-off for higher levels of happiness. For example, when we play sports, we pant, get injured, get exhausted, but we still keep playing. Because the happiness we derive is much higher compared to these petty pains. In fact we enjoy this pain!2. Many of these miseries are due to cumulative tendencies of past which start showing symptoms now.3. Many other are similar to what happens when we start exercising after a long time. It pains for a few days because our system is not adapted to the healthy habit. But in a few days, the pain vanishes and we start getting the benefits.4. Many other are those natural troubles which we can never get rid of in life. And one of the goals of using our Will is to learn how to ignore being affected by these mentally.
5. Some miseries are because even good people are not good in all aspects. Thus, one may be a very honest person. But he does not have a strong body and did not learn how to defend himself. He is killed by goons because he was weak. This is because of his lack of right Will in matters of health and self-defense. Remember, being powerful goes in sync with knowing truth.
Question: Why we see bad people getting so powerful?
Answer:
The inverse of above is true in most cases.
1. These bad people are never at internal peace. Nature did not design us to tolerate being corrupt, cheat, criminal, crooked etc. Even if we learn to ignore symptoms, these do cause their adverse effects. Despite having material power, these people are the most unhappy ones we know – always insecure, tense, trusting none and facing mental troubles. Bad habits or bad traits are like unhygienic or junk food.2. Again, the world is multi-dimensional. Good or bad is not a singular adjective to give to anyone. One maybe bad in almost all aspects of life, but has great confidence, self-belief and tactfulness, which are positive traits. Accordingly, he would succeed in certain areas of life including material aspects, but would fare miserably in other areas.
1. These bad people are never at internal peace. Nature did not design us to tolerate being corrupt, cheat, criminal, crooked etc. Even if we learn to ignore symptoms, these do cause their adverse effects. Despite having material power, these people are the most unhappy ones we know – always insecure, tense, trusting none and facing mental troubles. Bad habits or bad traits are like unhygienic or junk food.2. Again, the world is multi-dimensional. Good or bad is not a singular adjective to give to anyone. One maybe bad in almost all aspects of life, but has great confidence, self-belief and tactfulness, which are positive traits. Accordingly, he would succeed in certain areas of life including material aspects, but would fare miserably in other areas.
Question: What is the purpose of Theory of Karma?
Answer:
So that we all can achieve the ultimate levels of bliss. Its a complete meritocracy with no favoritism or whimsicalness. As we think, so we become. It all depends on direction and intensity of our thoughts. If we examine life critically, we will get enough clues to see this theory at work. And we can then use it to gain our happiness, without depending on others’ whims.
Question: Why does God test us?
Answer:
No, God never tests us. Thats a false notion. God only manages this system as per Theory of Karma for us. and has given us complete liberty to decide our fate. What we think to be a test by God, is nothing but our own previous traits that we are battling.
Question: What is the goal of life?
Answer:
To gain ultimate level of happiness, by using this Theory of Karma.
Question: Even Sex, Boozing, Sensuality et al give us happiness? Is it right as per Theory of Karma?
Answer:
No, they do not give happiness. Instead they create illusion of happiness by numbing our senses and intellect. Anything that causes us to act without using the faculty of thinking, is actually a surest recipe for miseries. Our happiness increases only when the source of that happiness is less and less dependent on external sources. This can happen only through knowledge accumulation and acting with full-control over mind. Another way to look at it is by asking ourselves, “What is the purpose of this act?” If answer is merely entertainment or habit or other vague excuse, thats not the right act as per Theory of Karma.The goal of life is to liberate ourselves from these false excuses by enhancing our knowledge. And any act that dumbs us moves the vehicle in opposite direction.
Question: Does God not forgive all our past sins, if we seek apology for our misdeeds?
Answer:
Does that happen in real life? Do we get healed after an accident due to careless driving by saying sorry? If one could get away so easily by saying sorry, people would get lazy and simply say sorry when troubles come. Nature and its laws are nothing but physical manifestations of God’s system. The rules that apply here are applied elsewhere also. In Vedic parlance, it is called, “Yat Pinde, Tat Brahmande” – Whatever happens in micro-system happens elsewhere also.There is no place for apology in Theory of Karma. There is scope only for improvement. And this is exactly like starting to exercise after years of laziness. It will pain initially. System will take time to adapt to it. But the more the will-power, better we come in shape. No miracle will happen out of blue. But sure-shot progress will definitely happen with right Will.
Question: Is there a framework to understand how to start using this Will properly?
Answer:
There is indeed the framework of Vedic Yoga for this. This has nothing to do with the so-called acrobatic exercises and poses you see. This is an approach to master the Self and master the art and science of living each moment as per Theory of Karma. It is extremely intuitive and based on sound principles that anyone can appreciate. Its the only system that works. But its a practical science and needs practice like martial arts or gymnastics.
Question: Where can I learn it?
Answer:
You are already learning it if you are resolving to be on path of Truth and Happiness. Its an automatic internal process. Experts can help you provide distilled knowledge that you can start applying in your life and get results faster. But remember, unlike other arts, this is a process of internalizing. No teacher or guide can help you provide absolute knowledge. They can provide directions and you will have to decide as per your own intellect. In Theory of Karma, there is no transfer of responsibility. That remains 100% yours.If you want more details, mail me at agniveer@agniveer.com
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Awesome…you answer the very next question questioning ?? our mind.
We need more such logical thinking to train our minds:)
Humans are reborn as a result of their Karmas. So y is population growing? How can one account for the extra humans?
Because this earth is not the only earth in this vast universe.
Agniveerji,
Can we also say animal that had purged their karma comes back as human?
Thank you
One takes birth as animals because of the soul having such layers of sanskaars that it is unable to act freely and sensibly. So in animal yoni, the soul purges out these tendencies without having liberty to act on own will. After that it is back to human form where it can make individual choice. So you are correct!
Dhanyavad
Amazing answers…….:) seems very relavant
Nice explanation, agniveerji.
Namaste to all
Are vedas believe in soul? What is a soul according to vedas?
forget about my question, answer this one. it may cover even mine one too.
@Shiva Pj, Ashish
Namaste brother
1. Every living has soul. Transmigration is always there for every soul.
2. Pranas are possessed by soul and they establish relationship between soul and body. So, one can say that Pranas are tools by which soul acts through the body. Pranas and soul are different.
3. Soul has no beginning and no end. In the state of Moksha, soul does not take incarnation in physical body. It remains in the state of absolute bliss provided by Eeshvar. However, there is a time limit to Moksha. After a long period of time, soul again comes to the cycle of birth and death and again tries for Moksha. So, in a way, there is another cycle, which exists, having Bandhan and Moksha alternatively.
4. There is nothing like destiny. as understood by most of the people. Actually, whatever we get in our life, it is all due to our past deeds. In this way, our destiny is decided by ourselves.
5. If one believes in such theories of cosmic effects and relates it with fate, it is simply denial from the existence of God. Either there would be Karma-Phal theory with God maintaining it or the theory of pre decided fate, with no one to control it. We believe in first one which is logical.
Dhanyawad
Many Many Dhanyavaad to Brother Arya
I have come up with few other questions.
If soul is everything and body is just a carrier of it. if that so,
How is it formed(the soul)? where is it formed and how it came into existence in this world? In which form it came first or enter first, is it in body, if in body whose body is it? animal, plants, man….etc?
@ashish
Brother, there are two types of entities in the world. One is cause (Kaaran) and another is creation (Karya). Cause needs to be there before any creation, and hence is beginning less. Eeshvar, soul, and Prakriti (matter and energy) are three causes, they are never created, rather they need to be present before creation. So, soul is never created as it itself is the cause to others and is not a creation (Karya) of anything. We can take the example of science, in which energy is defined as "neither created nor destroyed". Similarly, Eeshvar and souls are also beginning less and immortal.
To get more clear picture, please read Satyarth Prakash by Swami Dayanand and especially, its 7th, 8th, and 9th chapter.
Dhanyavaad Arya Ji,
dear arya great website first of all i must say, and if i could just ask you that the subtle body carries the desires, mental imprints and thoughts from one lifetime to the next , and is it true that in the vedas god teaches us that man gets his next rebirth to fulfill his desire? thanks and keep up the great work
@dave
Namaste brother
Thanks for your appreciation and we would feel happy if you join us in this noble cause.
Aatma (soul) carries “Sanskaars” (you may say these as imprints or thoughts but I dont think English language has any proper meaning for this) from previous births. It is not true that we get whatever we desire. In fact, whatever we do, its Sanskaras get deposited in the soul and they affect ones actions and thoughts further. If soul’s Sanskaaraas are helpful in getting Moksha (salvation), soul gets better and better environment, it is all controlled by Eeshvar. But if soul’s Sanskaaraas are such that they are deviating it from the path of bliss, Eeshvar limits it’s free will for sometime so that no new Sanskaar can enter the soul and older ones get eradicated. This way, soul comes into its neutral state in which it has free will again to do Karma and thus opportunity to try for Moksha. This process continues until Moksha is attained. Please remember that whole purpose of creation of this world is just to provide opportunities to get Moksha for souls. It is not just to fulfill all kind of desires for us. Of course, if desires are noble, Eeshvar will help because that is the part of the journey of Moksha.
Please read Satyarth Prakash by Swami Dayanand. It’s 7,8, and 9th chapters are probably the best philosophical explanation to all such topics! You are welcome for further discussion.
Dhanyawad
If theory of karma determines our life, how does god fit into theory of karma…So, If I have good thoughts and deed and doesn’t believe in god or any religious books like Vedas, I will reach a state of bliss..So, Karma tells me God is not going to help me in anyway..is that a true statement?
@ Satish
Eshwar acts like a judge and according to your good/bad deeds, you will be given happiness or grief. But you are independent to perform your deeds. But to have fruits of those deeds, you are dependent. Karma theory can not withstand without three entities, Eshwar, Soul and Matter (Prakriti).
Think if some one has bad thoughts and deeds and there is no supervisor/controller over them, then the world will be in chaos. In an examination hall, do you expect all students behave and write the answers honestly without presence of an invigilator !!! more examples can be thought of. But I request you to read the 7th, 8th and 9th chapters of Satyarth Prakash by Swami Dayanand Saraswati for clarification of such questions. The book is available in Hindi and English (Light of Truth) on this website.
Dhayawaad
@ ARYA
If someone has bad thoughts and deeds, won’t Karma take care…I will go through the book when I get a chance…Is god a judge??? I still don’t get how GOD and KARMA fits together..Maybe I am not Knowledgeable enough to understand the relationship..I don’t get/accept your Exmination Hall Analogy…
@Satish Kumar
Namaste Brother,
Karma alone are not enough to get the fruits. I give you example, imagine you spend whole night searching for sun in the sky doing Karma constantly but would you see the sun? No. Simply because sun is not there for that time. Similarly, you try hard to extract juice out of a completely dried fruit, would you get juice? No. Similarly, if you want to acquire knowledge, you try for it a lot, but if you dont have anyone knowledgeable person around or any other means, you wont get knowledge. Similarly, if you want bliss, you are trying for it but unless someone other than you, who is the source of this bliss exists, we cant achieve it. This source of bliss and knowledge is called Eeshvar in Vedas.
Are we in agreement now?
@ Satish
As I gave an example of an examination hall, there will not be held any healthy exam if the invigilator is not present in the hall. So in this universe taking as a system, Eshwar/ God is analogous to the invigilator and the souls are analogous with the students who write the papers as per their potential. In all, I mean to convey that without any controller, the system will not perform smoothly. So the existence of Eshwar/God is essential as a controller of the universe.
I hope now examination hall example may be clear to you.
Dhanyawaad
Namaste Agniveer Ji,
My Muslim friend asked me about law of karma. He said how does God punish someone according to Law of Karma. I said after death, soul enters any creature and in next births, he gets punishment of previous deeds. Then he said, is that why some are born handicapped. I said Yes. Then he said this ,
“sins are increasing every day, why handicapped & other creatures are not increasing. In Japan, after nuclear attack, many newborns are handicapped due to that, they are also some sins in their previous birth? One more thing, what is the use of giving punishment to this newborn?”
Plz answer this coz i m not an expert in Vedas or Law of Karma
@Vedic Wisdom
Namaste Brother,
Brother its not about reward or punishment at all. Eeshvar’s aim is to help us attain Moksha. Thus this whole Law of Karma is the part of the same. Whatever Karma we do, it leaves its Sanskaar behind, on the soul. When a soul does bad, its “Kusanskaaras” or evil impressions further try to deviate soul away from Moksha path. To get rid of these impressions, we need to undergo certain conditions, which are controlled by Eeshvar so that undesired Sanskaaras can be eradicated. These conditions, being painful, look punishment to us, but these are essential. Its just like surgery, which gives pain but is essential to get the health back.
So please remember, all happiness and sorrow we feel are the result of our own deeds. In fact, sorrow and happiness are nothing but the essential stages in the path of attaining Moksha and the quality and quantity of sorrow and happiness etc depend upon the type of bad and good deeds we have done. We cant know when will we get the fruit of a particular Karma but it is clear that whatever we experience at any moment, it is the collective outcome of our deeds done till that moment.
Hope it helps.
Dhanyawad
@ Arya
Namaste Arya Bhai,
Thanxx for your great reply
He was debating me on internet. He didn’t reply me after I posted your reply
@ Arya
Namaste brother,
He also asked me what do Vedas say about these things,
Inheritance laws, Representation, Authorization, Business by Proxy, Loan, Payment of loans, Freezing of Property, Bankruptcy, Partnership, Mortgage, Gifts, Peacemaking, Divorce, Food, Hunting, Asking Permission, Punishments, Governance, Blood Money, Magic, Tricks, Matters between Spouce, Judgement, General Behaviour, Salutation, Battlefield laws, Vision, Destiny, Heigine, Purity, Wudhu, Zakat, Marriage, Suckling, Renting Land, Dress, Behaviour etc.
Thanx
@Brother Vedic Wisdom
Namaste Brother,
Ask him to read Satyarth Prakash and you should also read it. It has answers to all the questions one can ask about philosophy, religion, Dharm, social science etc. Please download it from http://agniveer.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/satyarth_prakash_opt4.pdf
Dhanyawad
Here stress is given on truth. I would like to know that whether it has any connection with telling lies in day to day life? or in making false bill to make quick money? Both are carefully carried out in corporate. I am not above it.
God is not unjust, nor He unkind.
It is the Karma that follows,
Soft footed behind.
And whether it is right or wrong,
He does not wait for the time.
No prayers will help,
No love shall hold,
The past deeds overtake us.
Hence do all good and be kind-lovable.
It is our deeds, that makes our destiny.
No, oh no, God is never unkind.
agniveer, IA, KB, Vajraji
i had a talk with a doctor. he says there is nothing like soul. “consciousness is like music in the brain. when u die, the music stops, consciousness ceases.” Also in an experiment, when the brain was fed with $external$ electrical signals, the brain did respond.
The sperm and ovum are living cells. When they unite, they have become a living thing. nothing happens in between(according to him). At what stage does soul come into play?
@sarang:
IMO, an allopathic doctor has pretty much no choice but to deny soul (or anything else for that matter) that is self-experiential. Humans and rocks ultimately are made of electrons, protons and neutrons. Either we can argue that rocks are also sentient just like humans. That is one way to go. The other way to go is that there is something in us humans that makes us different from rocks. That something is probably the soul or consciousness.
Namaste Sarang
The doctor friend is rushing to unscientific conclusions.the scientific world is still struggling to set the bounds within which to study consciousness
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Hard_problem_of_consciousness
the music in the brain analogy itself points to the hard problem qualia The redness of red or the music-ness of the sound, or the sweetness,/strong> of sugar cannot be empirically established.
the reaction of a brain to electrical inputs is the same as magnetism generated in a coiled wire when current is passed through it. does this mean that the wire is the source of magnetism?
brain is an apparatus that collects sensory inputs and sends appropriate responsesthere are many processes inside our body that function without the brain. there are certain kind of worms ( i’ll try to search the exact name) that can recreate their brain if it is removed.The astoinishing part is that these worms dont lose their experience at all.
as brother Kalbhairav suggested, consciousness could be defined at such a broad level by some people that even a magnet attracting iron may be called conscious by that definition.The key is to ask not if the eyes can red , the question to ask is what is the “redness” that I perceive
hope i have not confused you
Namaste Brother Indian Agnostic
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thnx Agniveer, amazing it clears all doubts about Karma