In this lesson, we shall understand the concept of salvation or Mukti or Moksha. Please refer articles on Vedic God, Soul and Worship for fuller understanding.                  

(Read completely to know why we have image of a brave Maharana Pratap on a spiritual article on Moksha.)

Q: What is Mukti or Moksha?

A: Mukti means Freedom.

Q: What kind of freedom?

A: Mukti means the freedom that all souls desire for. In other words, freedom from sorrow and miseries.

Q: What happens after this freedom?

A: After this freedom, the soul experiences ultimate bliss and lives under inspiration of Ishwar. This is the most satisfying and enjoyable state one can have. Also note that contrary to what many wrongly believe in, Mukti is not  state similar to sleep or Sushupti. It is the OPPOSITE of sleep – a state of highest possible level of consciousness.

Q: But Ishwar is already within us. So we are already living under inspiration of Ishwar. Then what is so special about Mukti?

A: If you recall the discussions on Ishwar and soul, we concluded that soul has a freedom of ‘will’ and has limited knowledge. As and when the soul dispels ignorance through right use of ‘will‘, it gains more and more bliss and acts in harmony with the purpose of creation. That is why it is recommended for soul to emulate Ishwar in whatever way it can, and also work in a manner that cooperates with the overall purpose of creation.

The purpose of life is to enable the soul to conduct such actions that help it get in harmony with purpose of creation. When the harmony reaches a threshold level, there remains no further reason why a soul should take birth. It thus gets freedom from cycle of birth and death, sorrow and happiness and obtains ultimate bliss.

Thus, Mukti means conducting all actions in sync or harmony with purpose of creation. Ishwar is always inspiring us and is all around us and within us as well. But when we realize this and act accordingly, we obtain Mukti.

Q: What is preventing us from Mukti at this very moment? Why Ishwar does not grant us Mukti right now?

A: Answering the second question first: Ishwar does only what is best. It does not act arbitrarily.

Our nature is such that the only way we can obtain Mukti is by dispelling ignorance. And the only way to dispel ignorance is by conducting actions. The only way we can keep practicing doing the right actions is by having an opportunity to take birth and obtain an environment which is best suited to our current level of competence. And Ishwar keeps doing so until we gain mastery and reach Mukti. So He is acting in best possible manner for us to obtain Mukti asap.

Coming to first question, let us review the properties of soul compared to Ishwar and Prakriti (Nature).
Prakriti is Sat – it exists
Soul is Sat and Chit – it exists and it is conscious (living, animate etc)
Ishwar is Sat, Chit and Anand – it exists, is conscious as well as possess bliss.

Now soul DOES NOT possess Anand or bliss intrinsically. It has to move towards bliss through efforts. Since Ishwar has bliss, it implies that it has to move towards Ishwar.

Now let us come to another foundation of Vedic philosophy, “Knowledge = Bliss”.

Since Ishwar has infinite knowledge, it has infinite bliss.

But soul has LIMITED potential and LIMITED knowledge. This LIMIT keeps varying as per its deeds as per the Law of Karma managed by Ishwar.

Thus the ONLY way soul can possess Bliss is by increasing its knowledge through right acts that remove the limits.

The modus operandi of this process is as follows:

1. Actions create Sanskaars (tendencies or habits) and Sanskaars determine Limits of potential of soul. The catch is that the moment you conduct an action, it creates a Sanskaar. Sanskaar implies that the probability of you conducting the same action in similar situation increases.

Thus, if you do wrong acts – like cheating, hating etc – the probability of you doing the same again and again increases. This reduces the limits of your potentials and hence you have reduced knowledge resulting in reduced bliss. Thus you get a step away from Mukti.

But when you do good acts – like compassion, analyzing and accepting only truth, high character etc – the probability of you doing more of such good acts also increases. This leads to greater potential of seeking knowledge and hence bliss. Thus you get a step closer to Mukti.

2. Now EACH AND EVERY ACTION (including thoughts and feelings) count in this process. Also remember that even if you do something even once, its probability of happening again and making you dumber or intelligent increases.

3. A typical soul keeps oscillating between good and bad deeds every moment, going few steps back and few steps forth like a drunkard, resulting in the delay in Mukti.

4. But a yogi uses his will-power to refuse to conduct bad actions and proactively conducts noble actions. This gradually weakens the Sanskaars of old bad actions and replaces them with good Sanskaars. Gradually the seeds of all bad sanskaars are destroyed by a yogi. This results in a situation that bad actions are not repeated under any circumstance by the yogi. He thus has burnt the seeds of  bad Sanskaars (dagdhbeej) or has got free of the trap of bad Sanskaars forcing bad actions. He moves straight towards Mukti like an armyman without stepping back.

He surrenders completely to Ishwar’s will and achieves ultimate bliss of Ishwar.

This process of destruction of seeds of sanskaars demands constant practice with full enthusiasm, confidence and faith on Ishwar for a period of time.

THE ONLY CONTROLLING BUTTON WE HAVE IN THIS PROCESS IS OUR WILL-POWER.

Majority of people ignore to use this WILL-POWER in right direction and hence basically act as puppets responding to strings of situations. They thus themselves stifle their progress. Yogis act in opposite manner.

That is why Geeta says that what is day for the world is night for Yogi and vice verse.

The more powerfully you use your WILL-POWER, faster you reach Mukti.


Q: You say Mukti demands knowledge. Does it mean I need to know everything about everything possible in world to achieve Mukti?

A: Even if you desire, you cannot know everything. Because you are not Ishwar.

The knowledge here refers to realization and not mundane knowledge. Thus we are referring to concepts that lead to intrinsic knowledge and not mugging up of anything.

Mugging up is also useful and helpful, but ONLY when it helps improve concepts.

Yajurveda 40.14 summarizes this beautifully: One who clearly understands the concept the Vidya (Knowledge) as well as Avidya, guides himself accordingly through actions from bondage of death to ultimate bliss of Mukti.

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Q: Then what do you mean by knowledge and ignorance?

A: Yoga Darshan 2.5 explains this concept in most beautiful manner.

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It defines 4 concepts to be Avidya or Ignorance:

a. To consider temporary to be permanent and vice verse.

For example, to consider that this body and manifest world will remain forever, and disregard the soul and Ishwar which are permanent. Most of us act accordingly and hence are entrenched in Avidya.

b. To consider impure as pure and vice verse.

For example, to consider that this body full of blood, excretion, urine etc to be pure and have lust towards physical body, sensuality and glamor, and disregard traits like truth, morality, Brahmacharya, self-control, compassion as impure.

c. To consider sorrow as happiness and vice versa.

For example, to conduct one as per dirty vices like lust, anger, greed, delusion, crush, grief, regret, jealousy, hatred, laziness, arrogance etc in false hope that they will provide happiness. And rejecting self-control, compassion, peace, diligence, sincerity, simplicity etc as source of sorrow.

d. To consider inert as conscious as vice verse.

For example, to consider that this body and mind are living. And disregard soul and Ishwar who are conscious entities.

THE OPPOSITE OF AVIDYA IS VIDYA OR KNOWLEDGE

When this Vidya or Knowledge is clearly established, there remains no more any purpose of being bonded in cycle of death and birth. The soul then gets free and obtains Mukti or eternal bliss.

Q: What do you mean by sorrow or miseries?

A: Again Yoga Darshan 2.3-9 explain sorrow most succinctly through their causes.

It says that there are 5 kinds of Klesha or Sorrows.

1. Avidya (Ignorance) which has been described above. This is considered mother of all sorrows and foundation of all other sorrows.

2. Asmita (Ego): To consider this mind, intellect, body to be the self and have false pride, superiority or inferiority complex. This must be destroyed through practice (Abhyas), intellect (Viveka) and renunciation (Vairagya).

3. Raga (Attachment): To have sanskaars or tendencies of feeling bliss through sensory inputs and having greed for more of them.

4. Dwesha (Repulsion): To have hatred against situations or things that caused us sensory grief in past.

5. Abhinivesh (Fear of Death): To have a desire to never die and remain alive always. All living beings – from an ant to most intelligent scholar – fear death and prevent themselves from facing death to extent possible. This itself is greatest evidence of rebirth. When one understands that only body dies but soul remains protected forever under Ishwar’s blessings, this is eradicated.

Q: So how can we obtain Mukti or salvation?

A: We have explained the principles and essence of this earlier. To put in a slightly more mundane form, Mukti happens through:

– Following the guidance of Ishwar as per ‘inner-voice’ and our best understanding of truth devoid of ego.

– Staying away from bad tendencies like sins, crimes, anger, frustration, regret, bad company, bad habits, intoxication, addiction etc.

– Proactively seeking truth, compassion, welfare of entire world, discipline, maintenance of health, worship of Ishwar, practice of meditation and putting best efforts.

– To be honest, sincere and without bias.

– To NOT RUN AWAY from duties as ordained by Ishwar for society and world.

We shall discuss this in more specific details later. But the wise can understand the future roadmap from discussion so far itself.

Q: What happens to soul in Mukti? Does it lose its identity like a drop of water in ocean?

A: If soul were to lose identity forever, it would already have done so and we would not have been interacting with each other. Because time has no beginning. So infinite time has passed since we have NOT lost our identity. Thus the probability of us losing this identity in future also is a perfect ZERO.

What happens is that soul maintains its identity in same manner as a ball of iron becomes in hot fire. It has its identity but is totally immersed in and out in bliss of Ishwar. Thus it loses its identity in same sense as we lose our identity when we get engrossed in some enjoyable task. But this is NOT absolute loss of identity.

Q: Where does the soul live in Mukti?

A: The soul lives within omnipresent Ishwar. Being completely under guidance of the One with perfect knowledge, it has no restrictions on its movements and locations.

Q: Does soul have a physical body during Mukti?

A: No. Physical body is no more relevant for it. Physical body is needed to practice moving towards Mukti and not after Mukti.

Q: Without a body, how does the soul enjoy bliss of Ishwar?

A: The basic powers of the soul that enable it to use the physical sense organs remain with the soul. It can hear, touch, see, taste, smell and think directly through use of will power. The limitations of physical body are no more required for the one who has broken all limitations to achieve Mukti.

Refer Vedanta 4.4.10-12,  Kathopanishad 2.3.10 and Chhandogya Upanishad 8.7.1. 8.12.5-6. 8.12.1 for more on this.

Q: Is Mukti eternal or unending?

A: No. If that had been so, we would all have obtained Mukti by now and no soul would have remained in the world trying for Mukti (freedom from existing bondage). The whole purpose of creation would have turned irrelevant then. And if we have been unable to get Mukti so far, it is impossible to ever get Mukti in future.

Because soul is unborn and time has no beginning. Thus as per Vedas, Geeta, Upanishads and every scripture, we have been in existence for INFINITE time. If we cannot get Mukti in INFINITE time, there is no way we can get Mukti EVER.

THUS MUKTI IS NOT ETERNAL

Hence, after period of Mukti is over, soul comes back to world and starts its journey to Mukti again.

However, the duration of Mukti is very high compared to human life. As per Mundakopanishad, this duration is equivalent to time span of 36000 cycles of creation. Each creation cycle is equal to 43.2*200 million years.

So when scriptures say that Mukti is endless, they imply that before this complete term of Mukti is over, the soul will NOT come into cycle of death and life.

Q: Any evidence from Vedas on Mukti not being endless?

A: Refer Rigveda 1.24.1-2:

Question: Whom do we consider the most pure? Who is the most enlightened one in entire world. Who provides us mother and father again in the world after gifting us ultimate bliss or Mukti?

Answer: The self-enlightening, eternal, ever-free Ishwar alone is most pure. He alone provides us mother and father again in the world after gifting us ultimate bliss or Mukti.

Shankaracharya in his treatise on Chandogya Upanishad (8.15.1 and 4.15.1) states that soul stays in Brahmaloka or Mukti till his duration is not complete. In explanation of 6.2.15, he states that souls stay in Mukti for several Samvastara (years). In his explanation of Shatpath Brahman 14.6.1.18, he writes that “If souls do not come back after salvation, then the word “Iha” in the mantra becomes meaningless.”

Q: What are the fallacies of considering endless Mukti?

A:

1. It is against Vedas as per above reference.

2. Since soul is unborn and has existed for infinite time. Still it could not obtain Mukti. Thus Mukti automatically becomes impossible if it is eternal. OUR EXISTENCE IN NON-MUKTI STATE IS GREATEST PROOF OF MUKTI NOT BEING FOREVER.

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3. Actions of a soul are limited. The fruits of limited actions CANNOT be unlimited.

4. If Mukti be eternal, the world shall come to end eventually after all souls obtain Mukti. Since souls are unborn, there cannot be possibility of new souls being created. And if souls are created, even their destruction becomes inevitable.

5. Unless Mukti is cyclical, even Mukti becomes a prison from where one cannot return.

6. Even the value of bliss reduces if it goes on for endless time. Note that soul is not Ishwar to be able to comprehend bliss in full. Its capacity to enjoy bliss is also limited. Thus only return of Mukti does best justice for the souls.

Q: If there is return from Mukti, then why put efforts for it? After all it is also temporary!

A: Soul has limited capacity and limited knowledge. Thus something that transcends its capacity to appreciate the length cannot be termed temporary.

On earth, we make great efforts to manage happiness for 1 hour, 1 day, few months, few years. We plan so much for a life of merely 100 years knowing fully well that it will end after that. We eat today and start planning for next meal tomorrow morning.

When one can make efforts for such short-term goals, why not make efforts for such a vast time-span of Mukti that is unimaginable for us?

Q: I see your arguments. But I believe in a different concept of Mukti. For example, I am still not convinced that Mukti is not eternal. I believe soul and Ishwar is One. I have other differences as well. What should I do?

A:

1. Many of these differences emerge only because of differences in terminology and metaphors used to explain such concepts which demand highest level of mind-control to realize.

2. What exactly Mukti looks like can be understood only after we reach there. But one thing is clear and unambiguous – that this world that we see is not everything. There is something beyond it and our existence lies beyond the current birth and death. Mukti is, thus, what everyone should strive for.

3. Further understanding beyond this can come only through our own efforts resulting in personal realization.

Thus, EVEN IF YOU DIFFER, don’t worry. Regardless of what you or we think about concept of Mukti, the current duties and responsibilities to achieve that state is EXACTLY THE SAME FOR US – PUTTING EFFORTS FOR REMOVAL OF IGNORANCE.

Thus the road ahead is same for us, regardless of what the destination is conceived to be by each of us.

Whatever it would be, it would be the BEST for us. So let us work together on the common path.

Q: Mukti happens in one birth or several births?

A: It takes several births. Because eradication of each Sanskaar takes its due time and efforts. However please note that we do not know how many births we have already taken for this. So one should put best efforts to achieve Mukti in this birth itself. After all intensity of efforts itself counts the most in this.

Q: If there are several births, why don’t we remember them?

A:

1. Soul has limited knowledge and hence cannot remember beyond what is stored in brain. Forget about previos birth, we don’t remember our stay in womb, our childhood, our dreams, our actions in last so many years etc. If I ask, what did you do or think twelve years after your birth on 4th month, 3rd day, 3 hour and 5 minutes? You simply cannot answer. In fact you cannot account for your thoughts even few hours ago. Does that mean you did not exist then?

2. We should thank Ishwar that we do not remember past lives and hence can work with freshness. We get frustrated by our deeds and thoughts and tragedies of this life itself and want to forget them. Imagine if all the miseries of past lives were also remembered by us. We would have died merely by remembering them!

Thus to know past lives is department of Ishwar. Our department is to use our will-power to remove ignorance through noble deeds.

Q: When we don’t even remember past deeds, why does Ishwar punish us for that?

A:

If you have fever, you go to doctor for treatment. You do not know the cause of fever or how you contracted it. But you very well admit that some mistake must have happened causing this fever.

Similarly, remembrance of past deeds is not necessary to understand Ishwar’s law of Karma. We see such varieties in world, different social status, health, species etc. And we can well ascertain that everything is happening in such a planned manner with so intricate details that despite all the greatest claims of ‘modern science’ we have not even scratched 1% of surface.

The variety and planning in world lead us to conclude that the great planner provides us variety of situations based on past actions.

Smart people who introspect can witness the immediate benefits of good deeds and harms of bad deeds in near term itself. Then why should it not be extended beyond this life.

So even if we do not remember past lives, the world itself is witness to fact that Ishwar provides us situations as per our deeds continuously even after this life ends and new birth happens.

Q: When there are so many lives and Ishwar will keep giving me life after life, why should I hurry for Mukti? I am enjoying my present as well. So let me stay the way I am.

A: This logic seems to come from a smart MBA grad fresh out of B School! But Ishwar is smarter.

In this world, either you progress or you deteriorate. Stability without progress is ALSO deterioration. Look at world itself, you enjoy playing with a small baby. It is so lovely and cute. But we enjoy its cuteness only for few months. Imagine, if after several years also, the baby remains a small cute baby, what would happen? We all would start getting worried and consider it to be a rare serious disease. We all pray that children grow in most healthy manner and that is also what Ishwar demands from us through His creation.

Even in business affairs, if a company shows same performance year after year without showing growth, its valuation goes down very significantly.

In same manner, if we DO NOT put proactive efforts for progress, we are actually reducing our valuation. And hence the next life would be worse off than current one. Even to justify our being human beings, we have to put certain proactive efforts.

Q: Can animals not get Mukti?

Yes, they can. Because the souls in all living beings are identical. But they can strive for Mukti only after taking birth as human beings.

Remember, human is the ONLY species that has the potential to use the WILL-POWER to achieve salvation. Rest of the species are like treatment centers where they can only face fruits of actions done earlier so that their deeply ingrained Sanskaars are wiped out.

Thus humans who are obsessed with certain kinds of addictions or habits take birth in appropriate animal species so that they get opportunity to release those Sanskaars. Once these are released beyond a threshold, they become eligible to take birth as humans and then put efforts.

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Hence, all human beings should put utmost efforts to ensure that they take next births as humans again and can continue their journey. There is nothing more precious than human-birth and we should make best use of this golden opportunity.

Q: But even ignorance is bliss. A wealthy person sleeps on luxury bed but is not happy. And a laborer sleeps on hard stones but is blessed with sound sleep. Animals in jungle live so happily. And humans keep worrying. So instead of knowledge, ignorance is bliss.

A: This is childish logic.

1. Grant a wealthy the option to become a laborer and grant a laborer the option to become wealthy immediately. Wealthy will never agree and laborer will immediately grab the option. If both had equal bliss, no one would have desired to change from current situation.

2. No sensible human would desire to become an animal because humans can access higher levels of happiness that animals cannot.

3. The cause of grief for the wealthy is NOT wealth but his defective way of thinking. This defective way is his own Karma or actions.

4. Ignorance puts limits in bliss-acquisition. It is natural for souls to progress from less knowledge to higher knowledge. You don’t enjoy the games of 1 year old toddler because of higher knowledge. What people compare ignorance with to claim “ignorance is bliss” is defective knowledge or Avidya itself.

But if you seek Vidya, you get higher and higher bliss. There is no other way.

Q: What is meant by Swarg/ Narak or Heaven/Hell.

A: Swa means happiness. To obtain happiness is Swarg or Heaven.

To obtain miseries is Narak or Hell.

They DO NOT refer to any imaginary place or location. They refer to situations we create for ourselves RIGHT NOW through our efforts.

And when we get into habit of seeking Swarg every moment, all roots of ignorance are destroyed and we obtain ultimate bliss or Ishwar.

We earnestly request all that they should STOP living in illusion of any special place like Heaven or Hell after death. They should stop believing that those who disagree with them will go to Hell and others will go to Heaven forever. They should be tolerant to all faiths and all people so far they are not criminals or nuisance creators. Compassion to ALL souls is necessary for getting Heaven here itself and then blessings of Ishwar in Mukti or Moksha.

Q: OK. I understand about removing ignorance to achieve salvation. Is that why one should go to remote place to meditate and achieve salvation?

A: Vedic knowledge DOES NOT mean memorizing certain verses or understanding certain concepts intellectually. It means complete understanding that is exhibited in thoughts, words and actions – in knowledge, actions and contemplations.

This is like learning bicycle. Merely reading a book on bicycle and its design will not help. You need to practice. There is simply no other alternative.

Similarly, to achieve salvation you need to be in the world, live like a lotus here, detached from the mud around, and put efforts for cleansing the system. To run for meditation when your duties demand your involvement in the world, will not lead to Mukti but dumbness – the opposite of Mukti.

Isolation may be useful in short-term for specific purpose, but Mukti CANNOT come without cooperation with other souls. Vedas have innumerable Suktas only on cooperation and collaboration. Those who attempt to seek Mukti without this most fundamental requirement of Vedas are merely in doldrums.

Q: Then what about those Sanyasis and Munis who used to meditate in jungles. Were they escapists?

A: If you are talking about present day Sanyasis in jungles, if they are there temporarily to rejuvenate themselves or because due to old age, they are unable to work proactively in society, that is perfectly fine.

But if they are able bodied and yet seek permanent reclusion, then they are being escapist and treading the way of dumbness. Vairagya from attachment should happen and NOT from actions.

Such artificial reclusion is insult of Ishwar. If Ishwar would have thought that isolation is best for you, he would have given you birth on some solitary planet and not in midst of a society full of people and facing problems and challenges. Further, even the knowledge you receive is through interaction with world. If you stop interaction, you lose chance for further knowledge enhancement.

If you were born in an idealistic society where everyone is performing his or her duties reasonably well, then perhaps you would have had the liberty to explore the world within away from hustle-bustle of crowd.

But today, when there is so much corruption, intolerance, hatred, poverty, grief, immorality etc in society, only a psychopath or an impotent coward would seek running away from these challenges, that Ishwar wants us to face, work upon and thereby obtain Vairagya and dispel ignorance.

Its a pity that in name of spiritualism, a large work force of our action-oriented nation escape away from their duties towards nation and society. In the process, not only do they retard their own progress and run towards dumbness, but do great damage to society and nation. This is the most painful face of anti-nationalism facing us.

If we look down the history, all those false babas, gurus, siddhas who were busy seeking silence of mind in isolation or doing petty magic tricks in name of spiritualism during the most turbulent years of our history are the most wrong examples of spiritualism that one can have. Unfortunately we are flooded by such false role models. That is why despite having best of spiritual foundation, we still are the weakest and most shamelessly helpless societies of the world facing one slap after another for last 1000 years at least.

Our real role models of spiritualism should be legends who rose to the challenges of nation and society and burnt away their self to serve the larger cause. They were the true seekers of Mukti and exemplified the concepts of Vidya and Vairagya for us through concrete actions. They are the true saints for us. I am talking of legends like Rana Pratap, Shivaji, Bismil, Ashfaqullah, Netaji, Azad and Swami Dayanand among innumerable other heroes.

Swami Dayanand used to run several miles daily, perform squats and pushups, practice Mudgar and do rigorous training throughout his life. Because the concept of Mukti is only for the strong and effortful.

May we all seek such a powerful vigorous selfless mission towards Mukti that is not restricted only to I but society, nation and entire humanity! May Ishwar grant us that strength, enthusiasm and purity right now!

In next article, we shall review methods of Mukti in more detail.

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WannabeHuman
WannabeHuman
1 year 8 months ago

Naman _/\_

Akanksha
Akanksha
1 year 8 months ago

This is masterpiece article. Sanjeev Agniveer – you are really an enlightened soul.

bhattathiri
bhattathiri
2 years 8 months ago
Excellent and informative website. Hindu Wisdom – Advanced_Concepts http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Advanced_Concepts.htm‎ “Veda is the source of all Dharma” declares Manusmirti (2.6.) … The Rig Veda itself testifies that it has a hidden meaning in verse 4.3.16. …. Nancy Wilson Ross (1901 -1986) made her first trip to Japan, China, Korea and India… Read more »
Anirudh
Anirudh
3 years 6 months ago
Does one come in animal species after Mukti or one attains human form. Agniveer said in articles that animals are born when the soul gets dumb, so that it can improve its sanskaar. But if every human being is perfect ,then no one will get animal body,then how will the… Read more »
sandeep bansal
sandeep bansal
3 years 6 months ago

Can anyone give verses from vedas about rebirth pls.

Rishika
Rishika
3 years 9 months ago
Songs at the end of article are also so awesome and inspiring. Please add more songs like this on Agniveer site. Just wondering how can I download these songs. I would like to listen those when I drive to my office 🙂 So lovely songs. You can never get bored… Read more »
Ronak
3 years 9 months ago

Nameste Sister,
These are my favorite Bhajans as well.
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Rishika
Rishika
3 years 9 months ago
Such a nice article. Thank you so much Agniveer for this article. Anyone who is really interested for salvation (mukti) – please focus on last paragraph and think how can you contribute positively to the society, your country and to the world as a whole. Indeed, this is the goal… Read more »
Lakhan
Lakhan
3 years 9 months ago

It was an awesome article. Learned quite new things about salvation in hinduism. Sounded bit logical to me 🙂 Thank you and literally a nice work.

hinduagnostic
hinduagnostic
4 years 2 months ago

the arya samaj follows my belief but i have a question does the vedas mention karma,reincarnation and moksha?

NIHAR SINGH
NIHAR SINGH
4 years 3 months ago

How can we be able to give off all our attachments towards luxuries,relationships,prestige to attain salvation(moksha) in this kaliyug,plz explain?bcoz for me its seeming to be very much complicated to live without all these and also we may suffer severely.

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Satyen
Satyen
4 years 10 months ago
There could be Swarga and Narak, as two celestial bodies where the souls are borne with special physical bodies to reap the fruits of their karma done on the earth. These births could be extreme cases for those miseries or pleasures that cannot be availed on the earth. For example,… Read more »
dave
dave
4 years 1 month ago

lol brother have you been reading puranns?

Vinay Arya
Vinay Arya
4 years 11 months ago
Brahmacharya increase power,age,high immunity power,too much sukh from the body.I kept brahmacharya for three days and found the following things: (1)My face colour had changed from brown to white. (2)My power had increased to too much xtent. (3)I were not feeling cold. (4)There was no effect if somebody beated me.… Read more »
lankeshwar90
lankeshwar90
5 years 2 months ago
i dont see why u guys are afraid to admit swarga and narak are real places,sucking up to the atheists i see,no but seriously i have read the descriptions of swarga and narak from puranas and buddhist scriptures and i believe they are real places.pleace read 5th canto of bhagawatam… Read more »
hinduagnostic
hinduagnostic
4 years 1 month ago

vedas does not say that and puranas say that but they are only temporary places not eternal

krishna arya
5 years 3 months ago

read here the page 7 of this ebook!!

http://agniveer.com/3453/why-rebirth-is-necessary/

the mantra list is on page- 7
agniveer gives the list of a few mantras of rebirth!!

Jignasha
Jignasha
5 years 3 months ago
Thank you for the informative article. A fellow muslim friend(who has read the Vedas, with an unbiased view) claims that there is no such verse in the Vedas which says we will be born again. He says we have one life and that is the deciding factor of eternal heaven… Read more »
Dipankar
Dipankar
5 years 4 months ago
Lord krishna says to arjuna totally surrender of inner devine power.But few mans understand his inner devine power .lord krishna says”manushayanam sahastreshu yo vetti tatvataha” means amoung thousands people only one man can understand me.it is not a possible to anybody can understand a supreem inner power because mans lot… Read more »
kapil
5 years 4 months ago

Bhagavad Gita gist of all Vedic Scripture says

sarva-dharman parityajya
mam ekam saranam vraja
aham tvam sarva-papebhyo
moksayisyami ma sucah (18.66)

man-mana bhava mad-bhakto
mad-yaji mam namaskuru
mam evaisyasi yuktvaivam
atmanam mat-parayanah (9.34)

Brahman
Brahman
5 years 5 months ago

परीक्ष्य लोकान ़़़

Brahman
Brahman
5 years 5 months ago

भैक्षचर्यं चरन्तः क्यों लिखा है?

Brahman
Brahman
5 years 5 months ago

रामचंद्र और श्रीकृष्ण ब्राह्मण नही थे। वे क्षत्रिय थे।
लोकेषणायाश्च वित्तैषणायाश्च पुत्रेषणायोत्थाय भैक्षचर्यं चरन्तः।

vishal Kumar
vishal Kumar
5 years 7 months ago
Dear Angira Yours question is. If you say soul can hear then if I am in deep mediatation and I focus on Soul of Krishna then will it hear.Please reply on this Agniveer Ji. Angira you have very good qestion and I think you can get answer from Swami Ramswaroop… Read more »
Amit Dua
5 years 7 months ago
Namaste You have quoted Shankracharya’s treatise on Chhandogya Upnishand and his explanation on Shatpath Brahman in order to provide additional evidences for temporariness of Mukti. I tried to locate it in the works of Shankaracharya but could not find his commentary of Chhandogya Upnishand and Shatpath Brahman. Can you tell… Read more »
basant jhariya
basant jhariya
5 years 8 months ago

ok ! i got it

panchasikha, dayanand and gaargi
panchasikha, dayanand and gaargi
5 years 8 months ago

please define a state called ‘vairagya’ . What is ‘sattvik vairagya’? If a person get vairagya , what should he do?

basant jhariya
basant jhariya
5 years 8 months ago

what about baba ramdev?

basant jhariya
basant jhariya
5 years 8 months ago

“mukti ke liye ghar chhodna aavashyak hai. kyonki vyakti nishkaam karm nahi kar sakta”, “yadi ghar nahi chhod sakte to mukti nahi milegi”
– aisa kuch log kahte hain.

Agniveer
5 years 8 months ago

Please provide reference from vedas. We can provide large number of mantras that urge people to become grihastha and work for mukti. Refer 14th chapter of Atharva Veda.

Amit Dua
Amit Dua
5 years 8 months ago

Thanks, I was also in search of references regarding this topic.

sarang
5 years 8 months ago
sarang
5 years 8 months ago
namaste agniveerji, i come nowhere near ur intellect.but a very small objection.u promote brahmacharya for a blissful life. U also said in ‘women in vedas’ girls have to enter married life.we all have natural affinity to opposite gender.i want to be blissful neglecting worldly momentary pleasures..at the same time,need love… Read more »
Agniveer
5 years 8 months ago
Namaste Brahmacharya does not mean celibacy. Brahmacharya means dedicating all actions for achievement of Brahma. If you find zero affinity to opposite gender, you can think of celibacy. But if that not be the case, or you have an objective of setting example in mainstream society and support noble actions,… Read more »
sanjay
sanjay
5 years 8 months ago
Dear Agni veer, if you are the real agniveer? Bramachary means student life ideally starts at age four those vows, not for married people etc. To learn self-control is not easy, even to find the right person for marriage is not easy. After a certain age usually 25 students are… Read more »
Agniveer
5 years 8 months ago
Namaste I believe we both are speaking same thing but with different languages. Brahmacharya means technically Living for achieving Brahma. It refers to first phase of life because then one’s focus is solely to develop oneself to be able to achieve Brahma. For first 24 years of life, Brahmacharya is… Read more »
sanjay
sanjay
5 years 8 months ago
Dear Agniveer; Let me clarify that once one is married according to Hindu dharma the /vedas one cannot become unmarried again. As we speaking of the four ashrams not the technical meanings of the individual word. Yes, there is thing that some of the vows of brahmacharya continue into married… Read more »
sarang
5 years 8 months ago
namaste agniveerji, how does makarajyothi star appear in the dawn at sabarimala in kerala? I hav witnessed this miracle.it is absolutely a star that appear 3 times for some seconds only on that day,same time every year. Do u consider this supernatural or divine? NASA or ISRO cannot find this… Read more »
Konstadinos
Konstadinos
5 years 8 months ago

Is there any refer of unforgivable sin in Vedas or in Hinduism generally? Umforgivable means if one commited there is no hope for salvation and one have to suffer in hell eternally

Agniveer
5 years 8 months ago
No, such a concept does not exist in Vedas. Souls have limited potential which means there potential to do sin is also limited. Further as per Theory of Karma, the soul is independent only in Sankalpa or deciding the intent. What actually happens is beyond the capacity of soul. There… Read more »
NACHIKETA
5 years 9 months ago
sabse badi baat jo ki maine anubhav ki hai vah yah hai ki PARAM PITAA PARMESHWAR KA CHINTAN KARNE KE PASHCHAAT HI SAARE KAARYA AARAMBH KARNE CHAHIYE. PURUSHAARTH KE BINAA KAARYA NAHI HOTA. ISHWAR KA CHINTAN KIYE BAGAIR YADI KOI NAYA KAAM KAR DALA TO BAAD MEIN PACHHTAWA HI HOTA… Read more »
NACHIKETA
5 years 9 months ago

dhanyavaad agniveer ji 🙂 maine anubhav kiya hai ki “soch sochkar soch sochkar aadami kya karna chahiye aisa kewal sochna hi seekh sakta hai.bina purushaarth kiye koi bhi kaarya sambhav nahi hota.”

NACHIKETA
5 years 9 months ago

JAISE HAM MANUSHYA HAIN VAISE HI ANGREZ BHI MANUSHYA HAIN ISILIYE UNSE DWESH KYUN KARNA CHAHIYE?

Agniveer
5 years 9 months ago
किसी भी जीव से द्वेष करना वेद विरुद्ध है. चाहे अँगरेज़ हो चाहे पाकिस्तानी, चाहे हिन्दू चाहे मुसलमान चाहे ईसाई – सब हमारे ही परिवार जन है. सब में बंधुत्व का भाव ही रखना चाहिए. वेद कहता ही हम एक दुसरे से ऐसे प्रेम करें जैसे गाय अपने जन्मजात बछड़े… Read more »
NACHIKETA
5 years 9 months ago
prashn (1) IS “ARTICLE” KO HINDI MEIN KYON NAHI LIKHTE HO ? (2) MUJHE ‘BHADRA’ BANANAA HAI TO MAIN KAISI JINDAGI JEEUN ? MAINE SUNAA HAI KI MOKSH KEWAL BRAAHMANON KO HI HOTA HAI AISAA KYUN ? (3) US PARAM PATAA PARMESHWAR KA ‘PRATYAKSH’ KARNE SE KYA HOTA HAI? YADI… Read more »
Agniveer
5 years 9 months ago
नमस्ते १. हमे लेखों का हिंदी अनुवाद करने वालों की आवश्यकता है. यदि आप सहयोग दे सकते हैं तो संपर्क करें. २. ब्राह्मण का अर्थ विद्वान् सात्त्विक व्यक्ति होता है. अतः मोक्ष के लिए ब्राह्मण बनना आवश्यक है. किन्तु इसका जन्मा से कोई लेना देना नहीं है. कोई भी व्यक्ति… Read more »
Sanjeev Verma
Sanjeev Verma
5 years 10 months ago

Agniveerji,

Thanks for posting articles on Vedic Philosophy.

Sanjeev

Slave of Islam
Slave of Islam
4 years 9 months ago
@Agniveer & its patrons WE have refuted the Agniveer & its claim of having re-incarnation & salvation concept in Veda. Veda nowhere claim or approve theory of soul reincarnation and salvation. Look here the rebuttals made by Great Islamic Scholars “Zakir Bhai & Co”:- “No Reincarnation, No Moksha, No Mukti… Read more »
krishnarao
krishnarao
4 years 3 months ago
Karma based reincarnation in the Vedas: “O soul, God grants for thy bodies in different births, according to thy DEEDS a happy or unhappy place on this earth. May radiant beams prove helpful to thee!” (Chapter 35, verse 2) Translated by Devi Chand M.A. – This is very clear that… Read more »
Vinay Arya
Vinay Arya
4 years 9 months ago
Dear Slave of Islam We would talk with you if you would write your true identity or name.Is it your name “Slave of Islam”?If you are a slave then it means that you are weak.So Hindus should awake and should not be converted into Muslims.Because they will have to become… Read more »
Bagyaraj
Bagyaraj
4 years 9 months ago
A point of View on Debate to Blind Believer of Islam :- A debate had to be made only with people who can think logically,rationally and scientifically.Else it will be worthless.If one person is repeating the illogical statements (after proving that the statement is illogical )there is no use on… Read more »
Prithvi
Prithvi
4 years 9 months ago

slave of islam
why you believe in shooting stars, flat earth, flying donkey, 72 virgins,talking ants
do you lost your intelligence?

भ्रमित
भ्रमित
4 years 9 months ago
Scientists have agreed upon this. Please read this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZhMDU9GcVg&feature=player_embedded Its scientific and Doctors accept its validity. Tell your Sultan to learn science. It is obvious that he does not know it. “Stephen Prothero, religion professor at Boston University, has long framed the American propensity for “the divine-deli-cafeteria religion” as “very… Read more »
Indian Agnostic
Indian Agnostic
5 years 10 months ago
//Yes I have wisdom of Bhartiya science// Congratulations ! hope one day you would be able to throw some light on the quantum clone questions i raised 🙂 I respect the wisdom of Vedas immensely but not at the cost of denigrating contemporary science. If anybody points out the limitations… Read more »
Angira
Angira
5 years 10 months ago
) Even you have taken western education..by that logic you shouldn’t be discussing with yourself I have not taken western education I just know how to read and write in Egnlish I am from hindi medium.And I am not BTECT,BE and DR.But Yes I have wisdom of Bhartiya science. b)… Read more »
Agniveer
5 years 10 months ago

The article has been updated with additional points and examples. We hope that makes the article even more useful and relevant.

Dhanyavad
Agni

Angira
Angira
5 years 10 months ago
Although I should not but I am doing 1) why would a mukta soul need to communicate with other souls ? Why not ,they can communicate as Satyarth praksh mentiones 24 kind of power they have during moksha and if they want they can communicate.So please read SP. 2) The… Read more »
Angira
Angira
5 years 10 months ago
All Please do not discuss with me if you have taken western Education. My Science of Quantum Mechanics is from Upanishads and Vedas not from New PGBTECH which is old Technology. Whatever I have mentioned Genetic Enginerring is new word but my wisdom is from my country. Any person who… Read more »
Indian Agnostic
Indian Agnostic
5 years 10 months ago
@Angira a) Even you have taken western education..by that logic you shouldn’t be discussing with yourself b) I don’t blindly believe in ANY BOOK ..but don;t presume i have not read it. Even SP states that the emancipated soul has ACTUALLY ONE POWER but can be categorized into 24 varieties…go… Read more »
Angira
Angira
5 years 10 months ago
My Education for Debate as asked on this website is. I am Entry level scholar with bit of understanding of * Stayarth PRakash * Vedas *Quran *Bible *Vedic Sampathi *Hisotry of India *Mahabharat *Ramayan *Manu Smriti *Chanakya Niti. *Quantum Mechanics *Genetic Engineering Some more but Basic understanding and would like… Read more »
ibrahim
4 years 1 month ago

a simple question….. does manu smriti per mits us to eat meat. ch 5, verse 30,31. answer my question

Indian Agnostic
Indian Agnostic
5 years 10 months ago
learned one ..please answer the three questions. tarka ke tarazoo mein apne gyan ke bataashe udelna shuru karein muniwar! by the way ..i would also discuss quantum mech with you as it relates closely to to the frequency of vibration you were talking about 🙂 I am a PG (… Read more »
Angira
Angira
5 years 10 months ago

Please put forward your question of QM

Indian Agnostic
Indian Agnostic
5 years 10 months ago

@Angira

what does your Vedas have to say about the possibility of quantum cloning : possible or not?

kindly quote the Vedic reference for the benefit of all

Dhanyavaad

Angira
Angira
5 years 10 months ago
Angira
Angira
5 years 10 months ago
All This is how it works,Human body is resonating at a frequency and that frequency is tuned to a different level whcih is resonating at another frequency. Souls are at higher level and when one mediates he also reaches that frequency where he can talk to those enlightened souls. And… Read more »
Indian Agnostic
Indian Agnostic
5 years 10 months ago

Brilliant Article!

was virtually checking every hour for the new in the series ..was worth the wait 🙂

Angira
Angira
5 years 10 months ago

Please do not praise any Article until u r convinced i.e it is judged on tarazoo of discussion.Still they all have to answer my questions which I posed to all in thsi group.

Either it will be answered or taken off by Agniveer Ji

Indian Agnostic
Indian Agnostic
5 years 10 months ago
@Angira you jumped in with your gada straight away ..otherwise you would have noted that some people do have healthy disagreements here (including myself) with the ideology presented in this article. Please feel free to ask any questions or enlighten us with your wisdom. The article is brilliant because i… Read more »
Islam Is Great
5 years 10 months ago

Only way to salvation is worship ALLAH SWT and admit Mohammad PBUH as HIS last messanger.

Angira
Angira
5 years 10 months ago

Please do not bring some evil like Muhammad here in this discussion.Please be happy with hinuism.org as even hindus do not do what u present.May Hanuman take away Muhammad and give him few good shots

ibrahim
4 years 1 month ago
thats why it said half minded thinking is very dangerous.u know not your own religion and commenting on other religion. is that not mentioned our prophet in hindu scripture ? and is it not preeches that god is one and worship him alone ? dont get inspire of your own… Read more »
Premika Shalini
Premika Shalini
3 years 8 months ago
Dear Ibrahim, This is where you go wrong. Remember, when Almighty God assumes a human incarnation, He performs all duties and religious practices that are required by humans. This is called “Nar Leela” ie, God in human incarnation. It is a fact that God Ram used to perform ‘Trikaal Sandhya’… Read more »
Islam Is Great
5 years 10 months ago

Do not Insult my Prophet.

roger
roger
5 years 10 months ago

@Islam is worst

Do not insult Humanity by praising Muhammed.

Angira
Angira
5 years 10 months ago

If you say soul can hear then if I am in deep mediatation and I focus on Soul of Krishna then will it hear.Please reply on this Agniveer Ji.
hare Krishna

Arya
Arya
5 years 10 months ago
Angira
Angira
5 years 10 months ago

Brother I have been through that but my question is can I meditate and call soul if soul can hear me.Please be clear and specific

Truth Seeker
Truth Seeker
4 years 10 months ago

@All
Must Read this series having answer of several mysteries.
http://agniveerfans.wordpress.com/2011/10/18/part-1/

learner
learner
4 years 9 months ago
@Apolloreach could you plz provide an authentic reference for your upanishdic elaboration. plz refer to the original question that was asked by truth seeker at the beginning of this discussion. The question was: >>”@Apolloreach Brother, I am asking regarding the ideology which says spirit is fragment of Supreme sprite.” And… Read more »
Apolloreach
Apolloreach
4 years 9 months ago
@ Learner: Here is the elaboration, based on an Upanishadic statement – “Just as rivers flowing to the ocean merge in it, losing their name and form, so the wise man, freed from name and form, attains the supreme, divine Purusha” and this why, upon securing the right knowledge, atman… Read more »
learner
learner
4 years 9 months ago

@Apolloreach

“Our ATMAN is obviously part of the BRAHMAN”

What does that mean? ATMAN and BRAHMAN are different from each other. How can one be a part of the other. Plz elaborate on this.

Apolloreach
Apolloreach
4 years 10 months ago
@ TS: I saw that post. YV 40/8 can be a response if the question was whether a human is a miniscule piece of Brahman PHYSICALLY. We are obviously not. And the way we are connected with God can be seen here among other places in Rig Veda – It… Read more »
Truth Seeker
Truth Seeker
4 years 10 months ago

@Apolloreach
Go to this link and read whole post:-
http://vedmandir.com/content/questions-answers-february-06-2009

Apolloreach
Apolloreach
4 years 10 months ago

@ TS: Where is the post / article, you are referring to? Where is YV 40/8 mentioned?

Truth Seeker
Truth Seeker
4 years 10 months ago
@Apolloreach Brother, I am asking regarding the ideology which says spirit is fragment of Supreme sprite. Why Then, scholar like Agniveer denying this fact. When I say “Ishwar ansh jeev avinashi chetan amal sahaj sukh rashi”(Meaning is that soul is immortal and is a part of Almighty God. The soul… Read more »
Apolloreach
Apolloreach
4 years 10 months ago

@ TS: I am not sure what you are trying to ask. But if you are asking or pointing to linkage between Atman and Brahman, there is a famous saying in Katha Upanishad which goes “THIS is THAT.”

Truth Seeker
Truth Seeker
4 years 10 months ago

@Agniveer/Other Scholar
Can we say body is fragment of matter (Prakriti)? If Yes. Why not we can say soul (sprite) is fragment of supreme sprite (God)?

Arya
Arya
5 years 10 months ago

@Angira
Brother, I think in Samaadhi stage, you are in the state of experiencing bliss of Eeshvar. So its Eeshvar, through which you should be able to send any message to anyone without even saying a single word! This is what I think. Experts of Yog can rectify it!

Angira
Angira
5 years 10 months ago

This is wrong ISWAR is at highest level and when you reach at that level you shoudl be able to communicate with any soul.Actually even before that level we should be able to communictae with any sould as iswar is highest not souls

Satyen
Satyen
5 years 9 months ago
Angira Jee, To answer your question, first we should know that meditation is a generic word meaning concentrating our mind on something. As the intensity of meditation increases, our identity with our body starts being replaced by the subject of meditation. At a very intense level, we start identifying with… Read more »
Indian Agnostic
Indian Agnostic
5 years 10 months ago
Dear @Angira please think about these 1) why would a mukta soul need to communicate with other souls ? 2) The limited senses of hearing/seeing/touching etc.. are required for a bound soul..why do you think that a mukta soul would need such low level instruments of cognition ? the senses… Read more »
Angira
Angira
5 years 10 months ago
TO All Agniveer Ji,Arya Musafir Ji and All the scholars. Please do let me know if Soul can hear then I can make you sure that it will hear us also in moskha if if it wants to and if we really focus on that holy soul.It will come to… Read more »
Angira
Angira
5 years 10 months ago

If you say soul can hear then if I am in deep mediatation and I focus on Soul of Krishna then will it hear.Please reply on this Agniveer Ji.

Agniveer
5 years 10 months ago
Namaste The coarse sense organs do not exist. But the subtle powers that cause these coarse organs to function to exist with soul. Actually the power is one but can be segregated into different kinds. However whether you can use it to communicate with Krishna or Kansa is a different… Read more »
Truth Seeker
Truth Seeker
4 years 9 months ago
Salvation in Veda TREYAMBAKAM YAJAMAHE SUGANDHIM PUSHTIVARDHNAM URVARUKMIV BANDHNANMRITYORMUKSHIY MAMRITAT” (Rigveda 7/59/12). Meaning: Sugandhim = having fame, pushtivardhnam = who increases powers, treyambakam = who save us in past, present and future, yajamahe = we worship that God, urvarukmiv = like ripened musk melon, bandhnat = from binding, mrityoh= from… Read more »
Angira
Angira
5 years 10 months ago
Without a body, how does the soul enjoy bliss of Ishwar? A: The basic powers of the soul that enable it to use the physical sense organs remain with the soul. It can hear, touch, see, taste, smell and think directly through use of will power. The limitations of physical… Read more »
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