Prophet in Hindu Scriptures – Bhavishya Puran (Part 2)

@ Truth Seeker,Spirit, Agniveer, Dayanand fans etc…..
Can you show the same inventions in your Vedas.If the answer is no please follow Islam.

was there a cycle and spokes, degrees etc billions of years ago?, i never knew that. amazing

@ Padhi,
I challenge you to show the same scientific facts which i quote above in Vedas.I am ready to accept sanathana dharma if you explain it satisfactorily.

what do you mean by same ? A scientific fact means a scientific fact. If a scientific fact is in Vedas (which are delivered to human right on the first day on earth), this is a proof that this is said by God directly to us.

So Mr Padhi,
You are saying that the science i show from Qur’an is not in your Vedas.Isn’t?
“Vedas which are delivered to human right on the first day on earth”- Just don’t bluff.Can you prove that?

Just say one thing, are you concerned about science or the exact language said in Quran ? I am concerned with science.

Hyder

Show me a single scientific phenomenon on quran,,,,,plz….

hyder
your saudi religious leader in 1991 said that earth is flat as it mentioned in quran , those who will reject it will be considered as atheist and will be killed
to know the science in hinduism visit
http://www.hinduwisdom.info

One of the biggest blunder in Quran – the Earth is FLAT and it repeatedly says so
Surah 79:30 says
Wa Al-Arda bada dhalika DaHaaHaa which means And the Earth after that He(Allah) Spread out like a Carpet and FLATTEN it.Wa(And) AL(The) Arda(Earth) bada dhalika(after that he(allah)) DAHAAHAA (Spread out like a carpet and Flatten)
Some people misgude that Dahaahaa means – Ostrich Egg – Let us examine
But The Arabic word for EGG is BAIDAH. And any word in Arabic for any egg and any word in Arabic for egg-shaped MUST have the word BAIDAH in it ! In Arabic, EGG is BAIDAH. EGG-SHAPE is BAIDAHWIYAH.The Arabic word for Ostrich is NA’AHMAH. And the word for Ostrich Egg is BAIDAH NA’AHMAH.And the concise meaning of “Dahaahaa” is “Spread out like a carpet and Flattened”.
Go and check any well-respected Arabic dictionary.You can see what i said is true.
Other Quotes:-
1. Sutehat: If you want to describe something as flat in Arabic then there is no better way than using this
word. Sateh means flat, sutehat means flattened out.
Q. 88:20 Nor even how the earth has been (sutehat) flattened out?
2. Bisata: also means flat. The Arabic word bisata means a flat sheet or a carpet.
Q. 71: 19 And God has laid the earth for you as a (bisata) carpet
3. Madda: means stretched out until the object becomes flat, like what happens when you take a ball of dough
and stretch it until it becomes flat.
Q. 13:3 And He it is who hath (Madda) outstretched the earth, and placed on it the firm mountains
Q. 15:19 And the earth have WE (Madadnaha, from madda) spread out
Q. 50:6-7 What, have they not beheld heaven above them, how we have built it, and decked it out fair, and it
has no cracks? And the earth — We (Madadnaha) stretched it forth…
4. Firasha: means a mattress,‘ as flat as a mattress’.
Q. 2:22 Who made the earth a (Firasha) bed for you, and the heaven a roof
Q. 51:48 And the earth we (Farashnaha, from firasha) have spread out, and how excellently do we spread it
out!
5. Mahada: means a bed, which is flat. In Arabic…

5. Mahada: means a bed, which is flat. In Arabic you can describe something flat by comparing it to a bed.
Q. 20:53 .. the One who has laid out the earth as a (Mahdan) carpet for you
Q. 43:10 …has made for you the earth (Mahdan) like a carpet spread out
Q. 78:6 Have We not made the earth as a (Mihada) bed, And the mountains as pegs
6. Tahaha: means flattened.
Q. 91:5-6 By the heaven and that which built it and by the earth and that which (Tahaha) extended it!
7. Dahaha: means flat. Etc..Etc..
In Sura 15:19 (Al-Hajar), we read: “wal’arda madadnaha wa’alkayna feeha rawasi”.
The word “madadnaha” is from the verb “madda”, which is a very simple and easy word to understand. Not
even a little Arabic child would use this word to describe the shape of a watermelon or a ball. It is the most
simple way to describe something flat.
The Quran is full of junk science !
Source:- http://jesusallah.wordpress.com/

This video clinches the ultimate error of the quran: the flat earth concept. Beautifully made, it leaves no scope for a momin to come and declare ” see this is misinterpretation..this is the actual…blah blah.. ”

http://alisina.org/muhammads-flat-earth/

Hyder brother, please watch that video in its entirety and please give your comment.

I accepted your challenge dear… But before i show you proofs, you must promise, you will accept Sanatan dharma. You have to give your complete bio data here. if you have face book account, use that. And If I show you one single scientific proof, you will update in your face book account that you have accepted Sanatan dharma. Are you ready ?

@Spirit:

This is not new…Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) himself declared the music and chess as haram. 🙁

O Momins, abandon Islam and learn chess. Maybe one of you Indian Momins can then make India proud like Vishwanathan Anand. But first, you need to junk the hadiths that declare chess haram.

Dont let me down Momins. India is banking on you to spearhead its chess program in the next few centuries. So, dont be stuck in the 7th century Arabian desert.

Alaaaahu Akbar!

@Spirit & KB
We (MUslim) are not like you who promote vulgar & obscenity. This is done only to control the mind of females from negative thinking. This is greatness of Islam. Thanks to you for the publicity of this Fatwa. This is sign of decency in Islam. Why do your Hindu girls getting pregnant before marriage & Why do married girls commit adultery in Hindus? This Fatwa will refrain Muslim girls committing such immoral act like getting pregnant before marriage and committing adultery. Sprite Brother continue your nonsense stuff. You are doing publicity for us.
http://agniveer.com/479/prophet-puran/#comment-61888

Hello Salim Shaikh

You are a such absurd guy!!!!! You found that fatwa sacred while it is a joke for us modern men. How much foolish you can be!!!!! Here is a video where lion is roaring but your illiterate muslim fellows thinks it is shouting Allah, Allah, Allah. This is the lebel of your absurdity……………..
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=video%20of%20lion%20shouting%20allah%20allah%20in%20youtube&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCIQtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DxQq4NnU9mWI&ei=02r0Ttf4OYfUrQfIpoXuDw&usg=AFQjCNGbs8w-kbynEYYrfLzSEQU7koaBpA&cad=rja

hit the link and praise me again for letting you know about the miracle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🙂

Salim shaikh

Muslim women are very much oppressed. They must bring 4 eye witness to prove they have been raped. Now tell is this moral??? What if she can’t manage 4 eye witness???? If she can’t manage in the court she would be stoned till death. Don’t open my mouth. Muslim women are also very abusive. They are ready to live a cat’s life with their momin husband. Because they have been prescribed to live this way in Holy Quran Ch4 V.34. Moreover prophet said that Good women do not complain. How many of you enjoying those sacred lines…………???

@KB
___________So, dont be stuck in the 7th century Arabian desert_________
Do you know word “Islam” meaning? Islam is a Arabic word which means peace. & Prophet Mohamad made laws of this peaceful religion & Laws which promote peace are applicable in all ages. If Islam means peace how can it be religion of violence & nonsense laws? Do some study before posting your nonsense stuff here. I think, I am talking with a child of 5th standard.

@KB & Spirit
Both Jokers continue publicity of Islamic Fatwas free of cost. But do not worry I will give kick a on your asses in the end & with 1-1 biscuit of Parle G as wages of your service.

Chess was declared haraam for the benefit of a Momin only. Don’t you know Kalbhairav brother that playing Chess requires lot of Brain and thinking? From where a Momin will borrow brain? He can’t do that from a Christian NOR from a Jew as Mohammed made them enemy of a Muslim. Forget about Momin demanding brain from a Hindu / Buddhist. Due to love of idiot Arabics towards slavery, even Africans won’t give brain. A Momin can only borrow brain from another Momin. But, it again points to same question – do Momins have brain? DEFINITELY NOT; otherwise Mohammed won’t select a donkey as his vehicle. IF A MOMIN HAD BRAIN, HE WON’T BE MUSLIM FIRST OF ALL.

Oh mentor of terrorists – Slim Shaikh, Islam is religion of peace but only for a terrorist. Read this for enlightenment::: http://answering-islam.org/Terrorism/peace-loving.html

There is one religion in the world that kills you when you disagree with them and they say ‘look, we are a religion of peace and if you disagree we’ll f**king cut your head off, and nobody calls them on it — there are very few people that will call them on it.
– American poet, Bill Maher

US former Prez John Qunicy Adams said – In the seventh century of the Christian era, a wandering Arab of the lineage of Hagar, the Egyptian, with the preternatural energy of a fanatic, and the fraudulent spirit of an impostor, proclaimed himself as a messenger from Heaven, and spread desolation and delusion over an extensive portion of the earth. He poisoned the sources of human felicity at the fountain, by degrading the condition of the female sex, and the allowance of polygamy; and he declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind. THE ESSENCE OF HIS DOCTRINE WAS VIOLENCE AND LUST: TO EXALT THE BRUTAL OVER THE SPIRITUAL PART OF HUMAN NATURE. While the merciless and dissolute dogmas of the false prophet shall furnish motives to human action, there can never be peace upon earth, and good will towards men.

Reply to, भ्रमित says:
December 20, 2011 at 3:22 pm
The Translation and interpretation given by pickthall, who is an apparent convertee (from a jew or christian faith ), of the Holy Quran in english is for gullible people who do not know Arabic. He uses wrong translation to discredit the Quran. This translation of the Quran the Muslims have rejected. It is the favourite translation of the Quran for the Jews and Christians. You can understand the reason. It seems to be a conspiracy. They cannot change the Arabic Quran so they have changed the Translation. भ्रमित like innocent people are falling prey to it. Those people who are advocating pickthalls translation are misguiding people from Islam and are only achieving their Goal to some extent. These people will never refer to other translations, their folly would be immediately become evident. So brother don’t fall into thier mechanisms.

atoze
muslims themselves says they will kill anybody who dares to criticise their religion, you muslims always denies your own atrocities and blames on jews,in 21st century you are talking illogically about hellfire how many people have seen hell and heaven?,in every muslim countries religious minorities are being persecuted and treated like crap to whom you people denied it and cries on pseudo muslim persecution in other countries.in europe muslims are comiting crimes and terror and shouting for islamisation.

Bukhari
Volume 9, Book 87, Number 111:
Narrated ‘Aisha:
The commencement of the Divine Inspiration to Allah’s Apostle was in the form of good righteous (true) dreams in his sleep. He never had a dream but that it came true like bright day light. He used to go in seclusion (the cave of) Hira where he used to worship(Allah Alone) continuously for many (days) nights. He used to take with him the journey food for that (stay) and then come back to (his wife) Khadija to take his food like-wise again for another period to stay, till suddenly the Truth descended upon him while he was in
the cave of Hira. The angel came to him in it and asked him to read. The Prophet replied, “I do not know how to read.” (The Prophet added), “The angel caught me (forcefully) and pressed me so hard that I could not bear it anymore. He then released me and again asked me to read, and I replied, “I do not know how to read,” whereupon he caught me again and pressed me a second time till I could not
bear it anymore. He then released me and asked me again to read, but again I replied, “I do not know how to read (or, what shall I read?).” Thereupon he caught me for the third time and pressed me and then released me and said, “Read: In the Name of your Lord, Who has created (all that exists). Has created man from a clot. Read and Your Lord is Most Generous…up to….. ..that which he knew not.” (96.15)
(parts before omitted because it was too long)
But after a few days Waraqa died and the Divine Inspiration was also paused for a while and the Prophet became so sad as we have heard that he intended several times to throw himself from the tops of high mountains and every time he went up the top of a mountain in order to throw himself down, Gabriel would appear before him and say, “O Muhammad! You are indeed Allah’s Apostle in truth” whereupon his heart would become quiet and he would calm down and would return home. And whenever the period of the coming of the inspiration used to become long, he would do as before, but when he used to reach…

the top of a mountain, Gabriel would appear before him and say to him what he had said before. (Ibn ‘Abbas said regarding the meaning of: ‘He it is that Cleaves the daybreak (from the darkness)’ (6.96) that Al-Asbah. means the light of the sun during the day and the light of the moon at night).

1) Concerning the first part – The start of Islam
a) Why would an all-knowing deity ask an illiterate man to read?
b) Why does the spirit tell us that man was created from blood clots when it’s not true?
c) If this spirit “taught by the pen what men did not know,” where are those words?
d) And why digress to an oral recital when written testimony is superior?
e) Why gloat, saying he’s generous – in what way and to whom?
f) But the real question is: if this spirit “taught by the pen what men did not know,” where are those words?

2) Why was Mohammad suicidal?
a) When someone dies, do thoughts of suicide normally overtake someone?
b) Does this preclude Mohammad from being a prophet, because no prophet before was ever suicidal?
c) How many times did Gabriel go to Mohammad to tell him he was Allah’s messenger?
d) Does the fact that Gabriel had to tell Mohammad more than 1 time he was Allah’s messenger mean that Gabriel was not very convincing?
e) Or that Mohammad did not believe a spirit who nearly crushed the life out of him, and asked him (an illiterate man to read)?

4) Another argument that exists is that if Prophet Muhammad was truly inspired by Satan then Satan would order him to jump and kill him self just like how he tried to do with Jesus, Mathew 4:6-7 http://www.htmlbible.com/kjv30/B40C004.htm
a) First of all, Satan was testing whether Jesus was the Son of God, to which Jesus replied Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.
b) If Satan wanted Jesus to commit suicide, it would be understandable because Jesus brought the Golden rule “Love thy neighbour as yourself”
i) Is this message compatible with Satan and evil?
c) Would Satan want Mohammad to commit suicide after all the things he brought forth to the Muslim world?
(See question 3 above)
5) Why would Bukhari include this verse?
a) It;s not a very good start for any religion?
b) Was it to show that Mohammad was a fraud?

Samuel, don’t you get the basic idea?

Quran / Islam is Christianity redefined. Each and every Islamic faith is Christianity inbuilt. There is some mixing with Mohammed’s idiotic beliefs. Thus, original message is unknown. Islam only includes what is not to be done as per Christianity. Look, Jesus supported peace. He came for others and died for others. Mohammed supported war to promote peace. The Islam only believes in using war to find peace. Peace is achieved for a SO CALLED IDIOT SECT – Momin by murdering 1000s; raping 100s and terrorizing nations. Look at terrorism organizations: Al Qaeda, Taliban, Lashkar e Taiyyeba – they all run by Muslims.

Brother, the biggest service to a human is to ensure that Islam is destroyed. Let’s take the initiative to wipe out this sect of SATAN from this planet. WHEN 1000 SATANS DIE, MOHAMMED CAME INTO THE WORLD, WHEN 1000 MOHAMMED DIED, 1 HITLER ARRIVED, WHEN 1000 HITLERS DIED, A MUSLIM GETS BIRTH.

Islam = Nazi – ism.
Proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK2ukVCoWUU

Teach this idiots that they are against GOD. Expose the myth of Allah being comparable to Lord GOD. Death of false religion Islam is truly following of Christianity. Do this as a service to true messenger Jesus.

Atoze,

It seems that you know this guy well. There are many innocents then. To how many will you preach truth?? Instead, tell him real Quran. That would be better. Since, you know Pickthal, tell him that you are wrong and Mohammed is right. Don’t comment here – comment on his website and prove him wrong. That would be right initiative.

Thanks

Vinay brother,

You are forgetting, for Islam peace is output of WAR. THE ULTIMATE IDIOTS like Muslim Slaves, Atoze, sultans etc. know only 1 way to support peace. Kill 1000, burn 1000 houses and rape 1000 – then world will have peace. A deadly massacre creates peace. A Muslim enters Paradise (so called Jannat) by sending everyone else to hell (i.e., sufferings) – this was proved by George Bernard Shaw – Oscar winner Nobel Laureate. If someone asks, OUT OF CHRISTIANITY AND ISLAM, WHICH IS BETTER? No doubt every sensible will point towards Christianity. (Vedas are the best though. Islam being the worst no matter whichever faith it is compared with.) 50% humans in the world are evil minded and another 30% being total idiots. No surprise, Islam is fastest growing religion in the world (among those). Mohammed used religion / faith for his personal gain. All great thinkers have concluded this but no Muslim accepts this. This proves that Islam is religion of evil minded people AND / OR idiots. Quincy Adams has declared that freeing a muslim from Islam is the biggest service that can be offered to him. Other scholars comment that Islam is backward thinking promoted by a backward religion. Vinay Arya brother, Let’s unite humans to fight with this CULT OF SATAN. So that peace can be restored in its pure form not a consequence of stupid war which Quran promotes.

If the Muslims really want to praise Quran, they should not do it here. This is indeed neither the right way nor the right platform. We are ready to accept that Quran is the best book. Just tell us names of 50 scientists and 50 great philosophers who made Quran as their references. You cannot count Arabic Mathematicians as they were not alive when Quran was made nor the Mohammed. Quran was written after his death. Now, start counting. AND YES, NO MUSLIM SHALL EVER REPLY WITHOUT COUNTING.

@God is Great

Yes, I would try to unite everyone.

god is great
you are right
see these jihadis how they are talking illogically, muslims are of same category comes under brainwashing, i have seen the blog of
Mushafiq Sultan who is an agent of arab wants to make great vedic india into a uncivilised area.See all the islamic websites which contains only stupid claims of miracles and lacks logic, i have talked with many muslims who talks illogically and thinks about only religion or else nothing. whats your reply?

@ GOD IS GREAT & Vinay Arya,
Sorry to share my opinion on this.The best way to attain peace and to protect dharma in our country where majority are Hindus is to educate people by giving proper knowledge of our heritage. Teach our children and the coming generation about our sceintific heritage. Learn and teach the science behind the customs and rituals which is practiced.(For eg:- “Do not   keep the  direction of the  head towards north”  Reason –  the  magnetic meridian of the earth retards the blood  flow though brain  capillaries and affect  the functioning of  brain cells.). Like this each and every custom and ritual should be explained with its reason.
Regarding Muslims – It is not an easy thing to destroy old tendencies.So for them it will take a long time to realize the fact.Don’t worry about that because the world is turning to India. The world is looking for the knowledge like Ayurveda, yoga, music, dance, Sanskrit, Vedas, management, Gita, Indian food, Indian family system, Vedic mathematics, the concept of god, the use of achaaras, the yama and niyamaas, the economical concept of Chanakya, the management principles of Gita, the Gurukula method of learning and many such knowledge.Even the staunch Muslims started coming to Indian way of living in many Islamic nations.Here in our nation also this will happen and only what we need to do is to educate people our heritage.

Bagyaraj Sir,
You need not be sorry. Actually, what you are saying is much more logical compared to any other commenter. If we don’t know what is great in our own culture, how can we expect others to know that? Just seen a video – would request you (and others too) to see. Quantum physics is derived totally from Vedanta (Even Erwin Schrodinger accepted that). What more to say when scientists of CERN, Geneva declared that a cosmic dance of energy occurs within each atom – that dance is TANDAVA by lord Nataraja. Scientists have 2.5 m tall Nataraj statue installed there as a proof.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IrLcqAYwpc
(It is in 3 parts::: So, just click on corresponding links to see other 2) — You can also see Carl Sagan’s views on Hindu cosmology. Another series being Hinduism – scientifically proven religion. These mega videos proved that Only Solution For Modern Disaster Is India. Even Cambridge University switched towards Sanskrit. Homerton College is switching towards Adi Shankaracharya way of education. Interested scholars can read that. Thank you Bagyaraj Sir for this awakening.

Agniveer and patrons, why not you post articles explaining science behind Vedic rituals? Many people here are from scientific background and have their own blog / website. They can also explain science. If we have most precious gem with us (Vedas) why not tell others about that greatness. Please do so …

जब जीरो दिया भारत ने … भारत ने मेरे भारत ने … दुनिया को तब गिनती आई … तारो की भाषा भारत ने … भारत ने मेरे भारत ने … दुनिया को पहले सिखलाई … देता न दशमलव भारत तो यु चाँद पर जाना मुश्किल था … धरती और चाँद की दूरी का अन्दाजा लगाना मुश्किल था … सभ्यता जहाँ पहले आई … पहले जन्मी है जहाँ पर कला … अपना भारत वो भारत है … जिसके पीछे संसार चला … संसार चला और आगे बढा।
Ref: Bollywood movie – Poorab AUR Pashchim

@ God is Great,
Thank you for posting such a great video.We are gifted with such a nice platform (Agniveer) to learn and share our ideas for which we should appreciate Agniveer team.Many articles showing the science of Hinduism is posted in http://www.iish.org (A website created by Dr.N.Gopalakrishnan who was a scientist)and agniveer had already given the links of some of the articles published by IISH in his article”Science in Vedas”.

@ GOD IS GREAT & Vinay Arya,
Westerners started embracing Vedas.Here is an evidence.
British Kids Chanting Vedic Sanskrit Mantras – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4kdjHFBvd4

bagyaraj
thanks for your information
but have you any information on indonesians embracing hinduism
plz reply must

@ Pritvi,
Sorry i don’t have information .If received will post here.

@Prithvi says:
December 21, 2011 at 9:48 am
Bro ,
Some of the posts on this site are never published, just because they will expose the fallacies in other religions, this site only stands for saying evil things about Islam. The moment something disturbing truths about other religion is written it will not be published. So no use writing on this site. Other people have expressed similar views. This site will better be called gagsatya-veer..com

this is not any hateful website it is just to prevent web jihad against hinduism by your momin brothers and arab slaves.ex-muslims themselves are criticising the islam.

@Prithvi says:
December 24, 2011 at 9:54 am
Why is it that hinduism needs to be improved for example eradication of sati, Hindus are themselves trying to improve hiduism. What is the this sati ancient terrorism

@ Atoze,
Your Comment: – “Why is it that hinduism needs to be improved for example eradication of sati, Hindus are themselves trying to improve hiduism. What is the this sati ancient terrorism”
Sathi is a duraachaar and such duraachaar is not mentioned in any of the authentic religious books of Hindus it need to be eradicated. It does not mean Hinduism need to be improved but Hindus need to be improved by rejecting these types of duraachaars. This is why it is eradicated and thus purified the Hindus who follow that bad practice.

Origin of the dirty custom Sathi
Practicing sathi is unjustifiable but before Muslims making it as a weapon against Hinduism they should know how sathi originated in our great nation India. If you go through UGC approved text books of history you can find the reason for the origin of Sathi. During the Mugal rule of Mohammed Ghori and others they killed many men who refused to embrace Islam and those who fight against these foreigners for our country and the wives of these people were raped and killed brutally. To avoid this,- woman decided to die along with their husband which they found far better than raped and killed by the Mughal emperors and their military people. Gradually it becomes a custom and even after Mugal period it continued. Hindus themselves found later that this custom is bad and illogical and thus stopped it.

you jihadis only looks over the mistakes of other religions, while you will blind to your own errors.every religions have their own errors and flaws and they admit and reform it,see hinduism,christianity and judaism are improved, but your islam is still following the cult of 7th century uncivilised arab lizard eaters.by killing,bloodshedding you say islam is religion of peace, your beloved islamic countries saudi barbaria ,iran ,somalia are stoning women to death for adultery, is this the respect for women in islam? there are many cases of child molesting cases by imams and mullahs.muslims are killing innocent animals in qurbani in the name of myth prophet and god, is this humanity? first go and reform your islamic countries

Prithvi says:
December 24, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Bro, the custom of stoning unchaste women has been there for a longtime. (most major religions were given by God, His laws remain the same), Jesus christ saw such a women being prepared for stoning, so he went over there and said ‘ Let the first stone be cast by the person who had never sinned. So all the people turned and went away !
You have heard the saying ‘spare the rod and spoil the child.’ In Saudi Arabia, for any one person – the third instance of stealing after 2 warnings entails cutting off of one hand. The benefit of this law is that even jewellers need not close down their shop before going for regular prayers. No body dares to steal. It is not that only women are punished for adultery, both men and women are equally punished. It is for larger protection of society. What happens elsewhere is that abuses and Rapes are condoned as consensual sex. Often the Judge and the Lawyers laugh at the victim. The perpetrators of the crime are often powerful people and influence justice. Have you heard of a movie called – ‘No one killed jessica.’ I think in such cases modern reformed laws are abhorrent !
Please don’t point fingers. You are depicting imams as criminals, I think you should first refer to your own cupboard, It is full of skeletons. Why nobody says anything there, it is because everyone knows heart and heart what the truth is.

@Prithvi says:
December 24, 2011 at 1:11 pm
You reference to Qurbani… well I think you should refer to your own religion first. Every other day you read in the newpapers that human children are being offered as sacrifice to please dieties ! ( that too for small things) Sacrificing animals is part of vedic religion also. At least it better to sacrifice animals. They are compensated by a very fast birth rate. Besides. Allah has subject animals to human use. After all Man is Allahs vicegerent on earth. After all it is the creator who decides who lives and who dies. Or is it that you deny that also ?
Also, (You will jump and deny this !) it is true that it is in your religion that, if a guest comes to your house and there is nothing to offer him to eat then you sacrifice the cow of the house in order to serve your guest !

Reply to Atoze says:
December 25, 2011 at 1:22 am – HAVE SOME OBJECTION IN THE MENTIONED COMMENT
Your Comment – “Every other day you read in the newpapers that human children are being offered as sacrifice to please dieties ! ( that too for small things)”
May or may not be. Illiterate and uncultured people may do many heinous activities like this which is not a part of Hinduism or Vedic culture and not mentioned in any of the authentic Hindu scriptures. Any way these types of activities will be practiced only by 0.5 % of the people in the entire society and this also will be eradicated by time. I don’t understand how and where you get these types of news “every other day”.

Your Comment – “Sacrificing animals is part of Vedic religion also.”
Sacrificing Animals is not a part of Vedic religion and even if it is the Hindus have all the right to reject it with out any fear of hell.

Your Comment – “At least it better to sacrifice animals. They are compensated by a very fast birth rate.”
Sacrificing animal for satisfying the tongue is unjustifiable. “Fast birth rate” is a reason made by the non vegetarians to eat meat. There are a lot of animals and birds like elephant, horse, cat, crow, donkey etc which we do not kill. But they do not become over loaded and fill the earth. Even though there are laws against killing of tiger and lion, their numbers are considerably decreasing. Dinosaurs which lived before man became extinct completely by nature itself.

Continued…………

Reply to Atoze says:December 25, 2011 at 1:22 am
continued………..
Your Comment – “Besides. Allah has subject animals to human use. After all Man is Allahs vicegerent on earth.”
The misunderstanding that man is the noblest of all creations and all the worldly pleasures are intended for men is the result of man’s own agitated mind. The universe certain nearly 16 lakhs variety of animals, lakhs of plant variety and lakhs of micro organic varieties. The min conception that all these are created only for human being is a challenge to nature itself. It cannot be denied that man is blessed with more reasoning power and intelligence than other animals. But nature has given each and every organism of some specialties which may not be given to human beings. Having some limited special qualities does not make man the noblest of all creation.
A dog’s power to smell things the hearing capacity of a bat, the power of sight of a cat, the speed of a cheetah, the sharp vision of an eagle. The physical power of horse, the glow of a glow worm the sweet voice of the Cuckoo, the ability of a Parrot or Myna to speak in human language, the ability of camel to preserve water for days, the power of the humming bird of fly kilometers without rest, the memory power of bee which collects honey from a flower far away from its home, the immunity of animals against diseases, the power of the castle to find out the eatable grass………….are some of the qualities that the nature has given to animals. Man does not possess any of these qualities.
Man also has a lot of limitations. A human child takes a long period to stand walk in its own legs. Without proper guidance it cannot differentiate between things which are eatable and not eatable. Man has to depend on others for building his own house preparing his food, to take treatment for a disease etc. Man who is moving away from nature is passing from more complex situation to a more complicated state. Man cannot resist variations in temperature rain etc. It is only the human beings who…

Reply to Atoze says:December 25, 2011 at 1:22 am
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It is only the human beings who purpose fully uses the dangerous toxic substances like alcohol, tobacco etc. In this universe no other living organism commits suicide. The only are creature that cannot live ever for an hour without depending on other organism is man. Then how can we say that man is the noblest of all creations?

Your Comment – “After all it is the creator who decides who lives and who dies. Or is it that you deny that also ?”
This statement does not mean you can kill animals for satisfying your tongue because you can live in a very healthy manner with out killing animals. It means Allah did not wish to kill the other animals by human beings. If Allah wishes so Allah should give us the same body properties of a carnivorous animal. But as per science natural diet for human is vegetarian food. Some Evidences.
• Our nails are flattened, and, unlike carnivores, we don’t have sharp, pointed teeth.
• Both humans and herbivores have carbohydrate digestive enzymes in our saliva; while carnivores and omnivores don’t.
• Most importantly, both the carnivores and the omnivores have a colon that is short, simple and smooth, and their stomach acidity is less than pH 1 with food in stomach; Humans, like herbivores, have a very long, complex and sacculated colon, and our stomach acidity is around pH 4 to 5.
• Our long intestine length is designed for a high fiber diet (found only in plant food). Meat does not digest well in such an environment, and often turns toxic, which contributes to colon cancer.
• Carnivores enjoy the act of savaging and the scent of blood. Sharks, for example, are highly aroused by the scent of blood. On the other hand, we cannot tolerate the sounds and cries of animals being killed, and the mere sight of blood is disturbing to us.
• Some fake people misguided many by showing the sharp teeth of human beings but the sharp teeth for human is for chewing or breaking the hard type nuts, vegetables etc.

Reply to Atoze says:December 25, 2011 at 1:22 am
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Your Comment – “Also, (You will jump and deny this !) it is true that it is in your religion that, if a guest comes to your house and there is nothing to offer him to eat then you sacrifice the cow of the house in order to serve your guest !”
It may or may not happen in many houses or a few houses. It may be because of their ignorance and is unjustifiable. For a true Hindu “adhithi devo bhava” a guest had to be treated well. Treating well does not mean to kill animals and make them eat dead bodies and thus finally make their stomach a cemetery. That way of treating is a great insult and a slow poisoning which a true Hindu never practices.

@Vinay Arya says:
December 21, 2011 at 10:04 pm
bro arya you query why? why? why ? is not worth responding to but since you have specifically asked me, I am responding. Please find out where the inquiry into samjhauta express blast heading to ? Was there any thorough inquiry into 1989 strife you refer to.
All most all terrorism is political. The beginning of so called ‘terrorism’ was from the jews who were fighting for creation of Israel. Now they are the people who are wailing about it the most. All terrorism has political overtones. Even bollywood movies have been made on this time and again. I overheard one rickshaw puller, who obviously was not very qualified degree holder, saying that all politicians are united on one point and that is to keep the people divided. ( In order to rule. )

atoze
cutting of hands,stonig to death are only uncivilised and inhumanic which your muslim countries are following,there are many non-muslim countries where crime rate is low and there is no sharia law,no prophet or any religious person have implied this inhumanic cult on humans as your prophet implemented this cult.in case of adultery musllims always interfair in personal matter.
i am not saying from my side there are many news on your mullahs and imams in paedophile and molestation and terrorism.
muslims are migrating to non-muslim countries for better life.
human sacrifice are blind faith which are now slowly eradicating from the society and there is no mention of human sacrifice in hindu scriptures. beef in hindu scriptures are propaganda of your muslims .you muslims always denies own fault and gives justification

where are you collecting these copy pastblies from your pakistani blogs.you said sacrificing animals is better than human sacrifice
human sacrifice is man made cult which is not mentioned in any scriptures. almost extinct .by killing animals you want to say that muslims are nothing but butchers and sadistics.i have heard myself from dreaded muslim who said they can kill anybody whether it is human or animal.they consider non-muslims are animals so they can also chop him any time.
your religion of peace have crossed milestones in killing ,terrorism and arsoning.see the contribution of peace in world by islam
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com
http://www.faithfreedom.org
http://www.wikiislam.net

Dear Atoze
Your starting lines do not make me understand anything.However,you couldn’t understand me.I want to say that if Muslims love peace then why did they indulge in dungas many times in India and killed laks of Hindus.You give reason to be political.Can you make me understand how?Even if the reason is political then the question arise,if Muslims love peace then why did they indulge in dungas?You say that terrorosts are output of Jews,even then the question aire,why are the most of the terrorists are Muslims?

@Vinay Arya says:
December 25, 2011 at 10:14 am
so the cambodians, vietnamese, tamil tigers, Maoists, Northeast liberation front fighters, Serbians were/are all muslims. Why dungas never happened when muslims ruled India. Had muslims killed lakhs during their rule where would you have been today. All you say lacks credibility.

Dear Atoze

You said: Why dungas never happened when muslims ruled India.

So,please,you are unaware about the history of India,you should read the history books.Many history books clearly indicate how Muslims killed the innocent hindus.If you are yet not accepting then please read my family’s history:

During the Muslim period we used to live near Pakistan.We were cowards at that time.Muslim men and Mullas covered my family and said :Become a Muslim or get cut into pieces.Due to fear of death they got converted into Muslims.But when a man got birth on this earth everything got changed.Whom you hate too much.We were converted into hindus back by some organisation which was greatest at that time.According to my forefathers,MUslims used to cut us into pieces.Some used to eat human meat.Dead bodies used to lay as if destruction has happened.

@KB/Vinay/Bharmit/Bhagyraj/atoze
Atoze Brother you are doing very good work for Islam.
Islam means peace. Islam never produce any terrorist. Whatever organization in world like Hizb-ul-Mujahideen, Lashkar-e-Toiba ,Jaish-e-Mohammed, Harkat-ul Mujahideen, Harkat-ul-Jehad-i-Islami, Muslim Mujahideen etc. are group of noble/true people who are fighting for true religion e.i. Islam. & There is nothing wrong in these organizations they are acting in line of Quran. & it is prime most duty of every Muslim or good heated man to support them for the cause of religion. Today Muslim are in very bad condition in India. Muslim can not be in power unless they do not demand separate country for themselves based on Islamic laws as mentioned in Quran. Political parties in India doing exploitation of Muslim.

slave sheikh
don’t talk non-sense,
if muslims are in bad conditions in india then how muslims are in cinema, business, politics, sports and other fields,
how muslims are getting hajj subsidies in india?
how 3 muslims become presidents of india?
how there are so many muslim organisations
how there are waqf board and AIMPLB
Hindu-majority Maharashtra, Bihar, Kerala, Pondicherry, etc. have in the past elected Muslims as CMs; Can you ever imagine a Hindu becoming the CM of Muslim- majority J&K?
If Hindus are intolerant, how come Masjids and Madrassas are thriving? How come Muslims are offering Namaz on the road? How come Muslims are proclaiming 5 times a day on loudspeakers that there is no God except Allah?
If the communal riots is due to RSS, VHP, Bajrang Dal, etc. why there are riots in Bangladesh, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Turkey, Afghanistan, Indonesia, Chechhnya, China, Russia, UK, France, Spain, Cyprus, etc. – where there is no RSS/VHP.

if you have really problem then go out from india , there are 53 muslim countries .

Slim Shaikh says:December 25, 2011 at 11:53 am
1) What is the meaning of peace as per Islam? How it can be attained?
2) If Islam means peace why you need to “fight” for a true religion? Will fighting means or attain peace?
3) Why Muslims targeting to offer Heaven to Hindus? Why can’t you let Hindus to enjoy in hell with great personalities, scientists and Rishies?
4) How the Organizations you mentioned who are intended to kill many people can be justified? Is this is called as peace in Islam?
5) The entire world except a small % calls the activities of the above mentioned organizations as terrorist activities. Can you justify them as true Muslims? Why?
6) If Allah is the true god why human beings need to protect him and his teaching by killing the nonbelievers?
7) When the picture/ narration /stories/ incidents of Quran are subject to critical evaluation, why Muslims becomes violent? Why you need to protect god?
8) If Quran is true why questioning is not allowed?
9) Why apostates should be killed? Is there any hidden practice in Islam which should not be exposed?
10) After all what is the purpose of religion?

You are noble Slim SHaikh as you have said :Whatever organization in world like Hizb-ul-Mujahideen, Lashkar-e-Toiba ,Jaish-e-Mohammed, Harkat-ul Mujahideen, Harkat-ul-Jehad-i-Islami, Muslim Mujahideen etc. are group of noble/true people who are fighting for true religion e.i. Islam. & There is nothing wrong in these organizations they are acting in line of Quran

Everyone should read his post clearly please.Slim Shakh accepts that Muslims are producing terrorists.

@Vinay Arya
____________Slim Shakh accepts that Muslims are producing terrorists_______________
Where I said this?
Read my post again
http://agniveer.com/479/prophet-puran/#comment-62568
I said only Hizb-ul-Mujahideen, Lashkar-e-Toiba ,Jaish-e-Mohammed, Harkat-ul Mujahideen, Harkat-ul-Jehad-i-Islami, Muslim Mujahideen etc. are group of noble/true people who are fighting for true religion e.i. Islam.
You are demeaning these groups who are fighting only for Islam against those who do not believe in Islam & act against its teaching. As Bhagat Singh, Subhash Chandra Bose, Chander Shakhar Aazad were fighting for freedom against Britishers same these Muslim organization are fighting for Islam.

Can you just quote sources of what you have mentioned. – Use sources other than Quran OR what Muslims say. You cannot quote any source because what you have mentioned is interpolated by a so called Momin. The true quotes with duly authentic true sources is found here:

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Quotations_on_Islam_from_the_Noteworthy

Mohammed was praised by 2 but insulted by 100 at least. Regarding growth of Muslim population, don’t worry. America will kill a Momin just as they did so for Osama. Nothing is wrong with a Muslim untill he becomes a Jehadi. You also know that 2012 is declared as official dooms day year. World ends when crimes reaches to its peak – Obviously. Since, all the signs of your awaited hour has arrived. You can assume that world will end soon. You Muslims are contributing towards world’s destruction. You proved that the only thing which you can do is this. Agree that Muslim population is growing but on the same side, many Arabics who are Jehadis are thrown behind bars. I guess you are cunting prisoners too. Leave it. Muslim dominated nation never succeeded and even Nostradamus is supporting India so, all your arguments fall flat. See you at the day of judgement. Good Bye till then.

hyder ji
muslims are growing due to the high birth rate and migration policies not due to any conversion rates.freedom of religion and its preaching is allowed to everybody .many muslims have renounced islam in usa and europe silenty due to the fear of death.

@ Ayras,Prithvi etc etc – If some body is ready to refute statement by statement
Read More Black Laws against the Women and Degradation of Women.
1. Every woman must be loyal, faithful. obedient honorable to her husband even if he is blind, deaf, dumb, old, physically handicapped, debauchel or, gambler and neglects his wife and lives with his concubine(s). If the husband is unhappy, it would be the fault of his wife. If he cries, she should cry. If he laughs she should laugh. She can only answer humbly to his question. She should not on her own put any question. She should eat only after her husband eats. If he is beating she should not react, but fall on his feet and beg him to pardon her, and kiss his hands and pacify him. If the husband dies she should burn herself to death on his funeral pyre and go along with him to the other world and serve him there in this manner. (Padma Purana)
2. Women are fickle minded. Never believe them. Friendship with women is just like friendship with a wolf. (Rig-Veda 8-33-7)
3. A virtuous woman is one who dies on the funeral pyre of her dead husband and avails the privilege of serving her husband in the other world. (Atharva Veda 18-3-1)
4. Woman is the source of sorrow. At birth she makes her mother weep. At the time of the puberty she makes her parents weep. At the time of the marriage she makes all her family members and relatives weep. In youth she commits lot of blunders and brings bad name to the entire family, relatives and Varna . She tortures the hearts of her parents, husband and other family members. She is called ‘DARIKA’ because she is source of sorrow to all. (Aithareya Brahmana)
5. Women are liars, corrupt, greedy, and non virtuous. (Manu II 1)
6. Even for a woman, the performance of the sanskaras are necessary and they should be performed. But they should be performed without uttering the Veda Mantras.” (Manu II. 60)
7. It is the nature of women to seduce men in this (world); the wise are never unguarded in the company of males. (Manu II…

8. For women are able to lead astray in (this) world not only a fool, but even a learned man, and (to make) him a slave of desire and anger.” (Manu II.214) 9. One should not sit in a lonely place with one’s mother, sister or daughter, for the senses are powerful, and master even a learned man.” (Manu II. 215)10. A Brahmin male by virtue of his birth becomes the first husband of all women in the universe. (Manu III. 14)11. Women not care for beauty, nor is their attention fief on age; (thinking); (it is though that) he is a man; they give themselves to the handsome and to the ugly. (Manu IV. 14)12. By a girl, by a young woman, or even by an aged one, nothing must be done independently, even in her own house.” (Manu IV. 147) 13. In childhood a female must be subject to her father, in youth to her husband, when her lord is dead to her sons; a woman must never be independent. (Manu IV. 148)14. She must not seek to separate herself from her father, husband or son; by leaving them. She would make them both (her own and her husband’s) family incompatible. (Manu IV. 149)15. A Brahman must never eat food given at a sacrifice performed by a woman. (Manu IV. 205) 16. Sacrifices performed by women are inauspicious and not acceptable to god. They should therefore be avoided. (Manu IV. 206)17. She must always be cheerful, clever in management of her household affairs, careful in cleaning her utensils and economical in expenditure. (Manu V. 150)18. Him to whom her father may give her, or her brother with the father’s permission, she shall obey as long as he lives and when he is dead, must not insult his memory. (Manu V. 151)19. The husband who wedded her with sacred mantras is always a source of happiness to his wife, both in season and out of season, in this world and in the next. (Manu V1. 53)

20. Though destitute or virtuous, or seeking pleasure elsewhere, or devoid of good qualities, yet a husband must be constantly worshipped as a god by a faithful wife. (Manu V. 154)21. No sacrifice, no vow, no fast must be performed by women, apart from their husbands. If a wife obeys her husband, she will for that reason alone be exalted in heaven. (Manu V. 155)22. At her pleasure let her (i.e. widow) enunciate her body, by living voluntarily on pure flowers, roots and fruits, but let her not when her lord is deceased, even pronounce the name of another man. (Manu V. 157)23. But a widow, who from a wish to bear children, slights her deceased husband by marrying again, brings disgrace on herself here below, and shall be excluded from the seat of her lord (in heaven). (Manu V. 161)24. Responsibly the father who gives not (his daughter) in marriage at the proper time. (Manu IX. 4)25. A woman must always maintain her virtue and surrender her body to her husband only, ever if she is married off to an ugly person or even a leper. (Manu IX. 14)26. Through their passion for men, through their mutable temper, through their natural heartlessness, they become disloyal towards their husbands, however, carefully they may be guarded in this (world). (Manu IX. 15)27. Knowing their disposition, which the Lord of Creatures laid in them at the creation, to be such, (every) man should most strenuously exert himself to guard them. (Manu IX. 16)28. When creating them, Manu allotted to women (a love of their) bed, (of heart) seat and (of) ornament, impure desires, wrath, dishonesty, malice, and bad conduct. (Manu IX. 17) 29. Killing of a woman, a Shudra or an atheist is not sinful. Woman is an embodiment of the worst desires, hatred, deceit, jealousy and bad character. Women should never be given freedom. (Manu IX. 17 and V. 47, 147)30. Women have no right to study the Vedas. That is why their Sanskars are performed without Veda Mantras. women have no knowledge of religion because they have no right to know the Vedas. The uttering of…

hyder
your quran and hadith still talks women is inferior to the men
see here
(quran 4.34)-Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them. As for those whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them. Then if they obey you, take no further action against them. Surely God is most high.
(quran 2.228)-Women who are divorced shall wait, keeping themselves apart, three (monthly) courses. And it is not lawful for them that they should conceal that which Allah hath created in their wombs if they are believers in Allah and the Last Day. And their husbands would do better to take them back in that case if they desire a reconciliation. And they (women) have rights similar to those (of men) over them in kindness, and men are a degree above them. Allah is Mighty, Wise.
(quran 2.282)-Call in two male witnesses from among you, but if two men cannot be found, then one man and two women whom you judge fit to act as witnesses.
(quran 4.11)-“Allah directs you in regard of your Children’s (inheritance): to the male, a portion equal to that of two females…. These are settled portions ordained by Allah.
(Sahih Bukhari 3:48:826)-Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: The Prophet said, “Isn’t the witness of a women equal to half that of a man?” The women said “yes”. He said “This is because of the deficiency of the women’s mind.”
(Sahih Bukhari 1:9:490)-Narrated ‘Aisha: The things which annul the prayers were mentioned before me. They said, “Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman (if they pass in front of the praying people).” I said, “You have made us (i.e. women) dogs. I saw the Prophet praying while I used to lie in my bed between him and the Qibla. Whenever I was in need of something, I would slip away. for I disliked to face him.”
(Sahih Bukhari 5:59:524)-The Muslims said among themselves, ‘Will…

Wow!

We have cried enoguh.We have said to read the authentic translation of the Vedas.We have provided the site which gives the translation of the complete Vedas.Now,if you don’t read them then please do not read also translations by fools.We have also said thaT Manu Smriti has been changed orver time.So one should be careful while reading it.But you do not follow it.So,please,tell us how can we be helpful for you?

And you are criticising some good qualities of woman.Those aren’t bad qualities.Think in your mind freely.

Even now,we are advising you to study “Satyarth Prakash”.Here you will find the proof of woman’s right to study Vedas,do havan,no caste system, etc. There are many articles on this site which prove that woman has the right to study the Vedas,shudras have the right.”.But I am waiting for that day when you will read them.Hope,you will pass your eyes this time opened through those articles.

these people were not any prophets or holy persons.They never fought any war in the name of god or religion. They were politically engaged .they are now no more exists today.Ashoka was not a religious person he never fought in the name of god or religon.He embraced buddhism due to ethically . But Muslims are motivated in the name of religion and are killing innocent people.Who told Muslims to attack Persia,Egypt,Spain,Afghanistan,India.Your caliphs were like gangsters who massacred the population and enslaved the female and children.See it
http://www.historyofjihad.org
there are many verses in quran which indicates hate and discrimination towards non-believers, Muslims are people who divide the people,world, things on the lines of religion.quran indicates violence see it
[2.216] Fighting is enjoined on you, and it is an object of dislike to you; and it may be that you dislike a thing while it is good for you, and it may be that you love a thing while it is evil for you, and Allah knows, while you do not know.

[4.56] (As for) those who disbelieve in Our communications, We shall make them enter fire; so oft as their skins are thoroughly burned, We will change them for other skins, that they may taste the chastisement; surely Allah is Mighty, Wise.

[4.74] Therefore let those fight in the way of Allah, who sell this world’s life for the hereafter; and whoever fights in the way of Allah, then be he slain or be he victorious, We shall grant him a mighty reward.

[4.76] Those who believe fight in the way of Allah, and those who disbelieve fight in the way of the Shaitan. Fight therefore against the friends of the Shaitan; surely the strategy of the Shaitan is weak.

[4.89] They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah’s way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

[4.91] You will find…

[4.91] You will find others who desire that they should be safe from you and secure from their own people; as often as they are sent back to the mischief they get thrown into it headlong; therefore if they do not withdraw from you, and (do not) offer you peace and restrain their hands, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them; and against these We have given you a clear authority.

[5.33] The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His apostle and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement,

[5.38] And (as for) the man who steals and the woman who steals, cut off their hands as a punishment for what they have earned, an exemplary punishment from Allah; and Allah is Mighty, Wise.

[5.86] And (as for) those who disbelieve and reject Our communications, these are the companions of the flame.

[8.12] When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.

[8.39] And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah; but if they desist, then surely Allah sees what they do.

[9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

[9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in…

@Prithvi says:
December 26, 2011 at 7:12 am
I don’t know from where you learn this habbit of applying war time principles during peaceful times ! ( porbably your aim is to criticise only).
Phir bhi jo paida kar sakta hai, aur jo-kuch achchey cheezay hain daey sakta hai woh bahtu kuch cheen bhi sakta hai. Allah jo chate hain karte hain. There is no one who can stop Him once He decides on something.
Allah has said He is Most Merciful, but He has also said that, He is strict in punishment.

@ Pritvi,
Some objections and my point of view.

By British
Old caste system in India is based on profession and the rigidity was brought by the British, by conducting the senses based on the professional name and they labeled the profession as caste and declared each caste is specific and different. They declared interchange is not possible. The hidden agenda when they declared that some castes are superior and other are inferior / lower. This resulted in the fight among the castes for their aim of divide and rule this country. British created more than 1400 castes like this.British separated the districts, panchayat, municipality, geographically, they separated Indians also and labeled them inferior and superior on the so called caste, where professionally there were only four castes without any problem for their interchanging, They demarked the so called castes with powerful marking without the provision for interchanging. The present progressives, atheists, rationalists, radicals, politicians degraded that further. Which automatically divided the society like what resulting in social fight and conflict.

By Politicians
In this country, all the negatives are either created or magnified / glorified / polluted / criminalized /.. by politicians. The British created and rigidified the caste system and the politicians screwed for their benefits. Politicians like V.P. Singh divided the Hindus in the name of mandal commission and Maayaavati type of people are further degrading it. Remember none is to be left out from this crime, including the BJP. Only solution is that serious and sincere organizations should work silently for eradicating the tumor from the society by removing the negatives of the caste system. Discuss with the caste leaders and followers. Never give an impression that the caste system will be eradicated. The only aim should be the removal of the evils of the caste system. Even now the politicians want to keep the caste system and its negatives alive for their benefit whether the society divides or the society goes to dogs, they are more heinous than the Britishers who ruled India for more than 250 years.

@ Pritvi,
Conclusion
After all in Hindu community the divide based on caste system is very less compared to the fight between different muslim group among themselves and different Christian groups among themselves for power, money and for converting each other to their castes.

bagyaraj
i admit that today nasty politicians are playing vote bank dividing hindus on caste basis, those brahmans,kshytrias ,vaishyas and shudras were considered on karma which was later corrupted by selfish persons from time to time. today only solution is the education to eradicate caste system. We want people like vikramaditya,shivaji ,savarkar,bal gangadhar tilak and other patriots to create a hindu nationalism.its the people create a stong government for national security

Some Scientific facts of caste system in Vedas
“chaathur varnyam mayaa srushtam guna karma vibhaagasa”: I have created the four varnas (purely) based on the quality of the profession (karma) respectively……….. Varna can be said as colour or group.
Scientific evidence for this statement
Dr. P. Raman, MBBS, MD, Professor of Calicut Medical College, Kerala and Skin specialist conducted with a team of doctors, the aura analyses of few hundred people using Kirlian photography. Aura of the people from all religion and caste were subjected to the analyses and found that the aura (of all the people) can be classified under four colors.

@Prithvi says:
December 27, 2011 at 2:21 pm
Today america is better, at one time America was controlled by Mafia,
Justice is still better in Muslim countries.
There is instabiltiy in Muslim countries because of outside interference. Business interests you see.

atoze
muslim counntries from centuries are following dictatorship,tyranny,oppression.it is the study which taughts in muslim countries to blame on western world.human rights are being demnaded in muslim countries for many years which has not been fulfilled.many people are migrating to the western world for better life .if america and other european countries are have better position because they respects humanity, they respects secularism they are not crazy on religion. they have eliminated religion from education and state, where as your muslim countries are only crazy about religion or else nothing thats why they are backwards, your muslim countries only thinks about blasphemy law or else nothing. by following inhuman and barbarian law you say this is justice .

GOD IS GREAT says:
December 27, 2011 at 12:24 pm
only a small portion of your response is worth answering to. Allah is aganist any sort of killing, not muslims only. I said before quoting Quran please refer to history of the ayats revealed ( reference to context ) , in other words please do not quote out of context.
About you query regarding terrorists All terrorist is condemnable.
But before you pass a judgement on anyone find the actual facts, refer to a book – ‘who killed karkare’, this will give you some better insight of behind the scenes position.
To give you an example, I have heard that there are some terrorist organisations, operating in various conflict zones, which are supported by western countries. I am unable to give specific details, these are financed by big powers for political gains. They have interests in these countries. Asliyat kahan pata hai sabko.
Who is behind what. After all the day of Judgement will be a busy day probably. There would be a lot to do judgement to do.
There are christian terrorist organisations also, okhaloma bombing, the skin heads etc. In America whites are massacring children in schools, In Australia they are targeting Indians have you forgotten that. How many Indians are working and earning in Muslim countries !
Tell me, if your younger brother asks for money for chocolate – you will readily give it, If he asks money for making chlothes, buy motorcycle you will readily oblige. However if you brother asks money for buying doping drugs will you give it ? In fact you would chide him. Similarly because muslims are against Idolatory, in christian churches also they do Idolatory by putting images of mother mary and Jesus Christ. So they do not allow building Churches – where ever you are referring to.
Aap politics zyada or religion ke bare mein kam sochte ho lagta hai !

Atoze
yes good always blame on others , now you will say that pakistan was created by hindus, after you will say ajmal kasb , dawood ibrahim they all are innocents .Okholoham bombings was caused by mentaly ill person.
“christian terrorists” have they made guidelines on jesus , these people never recognised with any religions, the incidents you have mentioned are not nothing to do with the religion , they have been now solved,
Indians have full of talent they are working through all over the world , in USA there are sizeable no. doctors and scientists, in Gulf countries people are being recruited from all over the world , there are many non-muslims who have complained discrimination in those countries, muslims are getting political benefits in europe and USA.

so by not allowing building churches in your countries , so you want to say that muslims are intolerant, fanatics and always interfare in other religious matters. muslims always interfare in other religions ,does christian countries prohibits the muslims from building mosques and madrasahs by giving childish statement. why muslims have problem in idolatory or polytheists of other beliefs, every person have freedom of choice what and how and to whom they will worship, this is respected by america ,india and other secular countries.

@Prithvi says:
December 28, 2011 at 8:41 am
Prithvi :-
It is not easy to get permission for muslims to build a religious place in non muslim ruled states. Muslims were not allowed to build even a community centre near gound zero in New York. ( You know how good and easy it is to build a mosque in India, Temple toh main road encroach karke you can make it ! )
25 years ago Saudi king asked french president for a plot of land in Paris to build a mosque, for businessmen visiting and diplomats. The french president said that you can get permission if you allow us to build a church in Mecca ! Event 25 years back !
{ It is a different matter that there are now so many whites in france, who have embraced Islam, that there are now 5000 mosques in France }

@Prithvi says:
December 27, 2011 at 2:14 pm
You reject god is okay but if God should reject you then there is deep deep trouble for you. You can do nothing about it. God is irresistible if you only understood that. Even your stupid genes are very unstable they need to be repaired all the time. If some of the repair work goes wrong you would be severly sick. Should Allah reverse engineer, meaning reorganise your genes, you may end up as an ape or a pig, you can do nothing about it. He has done that to people before who rejected Him.

atoze
so you means allah doesn’t know except torture and cruelity who rejects him, like crime mafia any body who disobeys the mafia then mafia will kill him, now it is clear that allah ki soch itni giri hui hai , no prophets in other religion said there is no hell fire , then all persons before islam and non-muslims who serve for humanity are now burning in hell, why allah is not giving any proof of hell and heaven ,just following dogmas like sheep, every living creature which has been created by nature are benefits for us..scientists have proved all living beings have some useful benefits whether it may be ant,pig or any animals .

Prithvi jee,
What’s the use? People like Atoze won’t learn easily. They will only criticize us & keep doing so. He says that we blame Muslims but in one of the previous comments – he writes:
///Saudi king asked french president for a plot of land in Paris to build a mosque, for businessmen visiting and diplomats. The french president said that you can get permission if you allow us to build a church in Mecca ! Event 25 years back !
{ It is a different matter that there are now so many whites in france, who have embraced Islam, that there are now 5000 mosques in France }///
He himself brought loopholes in Islam to the light. Muslims won’t allow anybody to build religious buildings in their countries but would require others to build Mosques in their countries. See how FRAUD Islam is. 25 years later, Christianity has reformed. Islam is yet to reform. (Consider you are playing chess. Opponent says – I will play on your behalf. You cannot play on mine. I will kill your pawn, you cannot kill mine. If I am victorious, you reward me. If you are, I won’t reward you. Islam functions similar way.) But good thing – Atoze himself showed loopholes in Islam.
Conclusion:
Nevertheless, let’s not waste our energy putting someone down. But we should focus on core of the link mentioned below i.e., building our Dharma and educate / unite Hindus. http://agniveer.com/600/naik-hinduism/#comment-63739

god is great
you are absolutely right it is useless to these people have their own world and thoughts,mother religion is the best religion in the world whatever it may be, it is our duty to protect our culture ,religion.As we knew the truth.We have to remember that conversion will lead to the creation of a new new nation.we knew that there is no such crap claimed by these idiots, we are happy in our life, religion and have the choice of worship according to our wish. you can see this websites
http://www.hindujagruti.org
http://www.hinduwisdom.info (this is a website which shows the hidden treasure of sanatan dharma and praised by many westerners)
so please once visit it and reply me how it is
plz.

GOD IS GREAT says:
December 28, 2011 at 7:57 pm
Christians have reformed and muslims haven’t. This incident is not enough to prove that christians have reformed in any way.
You think Hinduism after all the reforms is good enough. No it isn’t, it is now just a sugar coated falsehood. The basic religious concepts in hinduism are faulty. You may remove Suttee, Child marriages, Torture of widows, Surpression of lower castes, abolition of devdasi system ,honor killing in same gotra marriages etc, to name a few, but the basic concepts of God are defective in Hinduism.
So anyone who reforms hinduism maybe does good for hinduism but it harms hindus. It ensures that hindus remain ‘warped’ worshipping gods and goddesses. Akbar who started it has done disservice to hindus. The Later people who did it may have been sincere but they were inspired by people with ulterior motives. In contrast Prophet Muhammad ( may Allah send his blessing on him and his progeny ) wanted as many people as possible to get heaven. After all he ( may Allah send his blessing on him and his progeny ) was sent as mercy to Mankind from Allah. Hindus however continue to see this politically. Jabke aisa kuch nahin hai. (Aap to khud keh rahe ho ke aap superior ho saare doctor engineer aapke race se bante hain to aapko kaheki chinta hai. Don’t see it politically. Nobody is going to live for very long.)
Reformed Hinduism is only like removing the bitterness from poison, so that it is easy to consume. The Hindus will ultimately suffer for it. I’m sorry if I have hurt you by saying this in plain words. But truth is sometimes harsh to hear.

@Atoze:

The basic religious concepts in hinduism are faulty.
Concepts like what?

but the basic concepts of God are defective in Hinduism.
What’s defective about the concepts of God in Hinduism?

It ensures that hindus remain ‘warped’ worshipping gods and goddesses.
How?

The Hindus will ultimately suffer for it.
What is “ultimate” and how will we suffer for “it”. What is this “it”?

I’m sorry if I have hurt you by saying this in plain words. But truth is sometimes harsh to hear.
You havent hurt me. You just made some random unsubstantiated assertions.

Salutations Brother Atoze!
Have you seen Laughter Challenge? The participants there insult many famous personalities. Some even laugh at the anchors. But no one reacts. Why? Because they know that it is meant as light hearted comedy and not a serious programme. Your comment is of same category. Why feel bad – I rather thank you for entertaining me.

Majority of Christian and other Non Muslim countries have become secular. Which Muslim dominated nation is secular? Yet you find Christian reforms NOT SATISFACTORY. good joke!
Where did I mention myself superior? (Or is it another joke by you?) and how can doctors and engineers be politically seen? What has that to do with long life? If these are other jokes by you, please mention so. Brother, while telling so many jokes, you forgot to consider the fact Islam is yet to reform. This error is OK – given the fact that you speak jokes.
Why do you have problems with Hindu reforms? Who are you to judge reforms by the way? ISLAM clearly mentions that On the Day Judgement – Allah judges everyone. Why are you taking Allah’s job? Leave the judgement jobs onto Allah. Thank you once again for the entertainment.

@TSlim Shaik says:
January 1, 2012 at 11:26 am
shaik please read the previous correspondence between me and prithvi and God is Great the you will understand what and why I have written what you are referring to.
Wish you all a Happy New Year !

@Atoze
asalam o alikum
__________Wish you all a Happy New Year__________________
My new year starts with Islamic calendar. I am not follower of English or European like Hindus & Muslims like you. Have u listen proverb (Baigani Shaddi me abdula diwana)? This is fit on you.

Tslim Shaikh
what an absur guy you are!!!!!!!!!! Lol. Follow–

My new year starts with Islamic calendar. I am not follower of English or European like Hindus & Muslims like you. Have u listen proverb (Baigani Shaddi me abdula diwana)? This is fit on you.

So why you use internet which was invented by kaffirs? Why are you typing in English rather than Arabia? Why are you spending time on facebook which was introduced by a kaffir Mark? Why do you use bulb which was invented by a jew? Why do you use satellite which came to being by the process of the greatest scientists who were anything but muslims??? Can you answer this?? Look Hinduism, Christianity, Judaism, Jews (and so on but not islam) have contributed to humanity but what your islam did for humanity other than assassination, invasion, plundering, looting, child molesting etc etc??????

Brother Spirit!

There is one thing which these Muslim jokers always say. Islam & Quran is scientific. Questions arise: If Islam be scientific, how many scientists and innovators it generated. Answer = 0.000 (correct upto 3 decimal places). Now, this Slim Shaikh will give stupid explanation to defend Islam. But, even he cannot tell which scientists made Quran as reference? (How can he – champions here will catch his lie very easily.) This proves a persian scholar Mohammed Abu Bakr who said, “If the people of Islam are asked about the proof for the soundness of their religion, they flare up, get angry and spill the blood of whoever confronts them with this question. They forbid rational speculation, and strive to kill their adversaries. This is why truth became thoroughly silenced and concealed.” What a cruel belief propagated by a cruel follower of Satan. Ref.: http://alturl.com/rsqen

@Spirit/God(Allah) is Great
All the scientific discoveries/inventions you have motioned above are in the line of Quran. Quran is base of all. All these came after Quran revelations. You should get this point.
http://agniveer.com/479/prophet-puran/#comment-65420

This is based on verse 10.18.7, part of the verses to be used at funerals. Whether they even describe sati or something else entirely, is disputed, The hymn is about funeral by burial, and not by cremation. There are differing translations of the passage. The translation below is one of those said to prescribe it.

इमा नारीरविधवाः सुपत्नीराञ्जनेन सर्पिषा संविशन्तु |
अनश्रवो.अनमीवाः सुरत्ना आ रोहन्तु जनयोयोनिमग्रे || (RV 10.18.7)

Let these women, whose husbands are worthy and are living, enter the house with ghee (applied) as collyrium (to their eyes). Let these wives first step into the pyre, tearless without any affliction and well adorned.[63]

The text does not mention widowhood, and other translations differ in their translation of the word here rendered as ‘pyre’ (yoni, literally “seat, abode”; Griffith has “first let the dames go up to where he lieth”). In addition, the following verse, which is unambiguously about widows, then contradicts any suggestion of the woman’s death; it explicitly states that the widow should return to her house.

उदीर्ष्व नार्यभि जीवलोकं गतासुमेतमुप शेष एहि |
हस्तग्राभस्य दिधिषोस्तवेदं पत्युर्जनित्वमभि सम्बभूथ || (RV 10.18.8)

Rise, come unto the world of life, O woman — come, he is lifeless by whose side thou liest. Wifehood with this thy husband was thy portion, who took thy hand and wooed thee as a lover.[64]

A reason given for the discrepancy in translation and interpretation of verse 10.18.7, is that one consonant in a word that meant house, yonim agree “foremost to the yoni”, was deliberately changed by those who wished claim scriptural justification, to a word that meant fire, yomiagne.[65]

Continuing,

Side real day (पक्षवात दिवा) as per Aryabhata = 23 hours 56 minutes 4.1 seconds
As per west (discovered 13 centuries later) = 23 hours 56 minutes 4.091 seconds

Value of pi as per Aryabhata = 3.1416 approx
As per west (discovered 5 centuries later) = 3.141592653 …

Time taken by Earth to complete 1 revolution as per Bhaskara = 365.258756484 days
As per west (discovered 7 century later) = 365.2595781 days

Speed of light as per Sayanacharya = 2202 yojanas in half a Nimesha = 187670.4545 mile / s approx.
As per West (discovered 6 centuries later) = 299792458 m/s = 186282.397 mile / s

Aryabhata gave heliocentric model => Copernicus is a fraud. Brahmagupta gave gravitation => Newton is a thief. To hide their weakness, western world says that Vasco Da Gama discovered India. This is false as Vasco Da Gama had Indian sailors with him. Indian smallest unit of time = 0.000029411765 seconds which is square root of Western Value. The largest unit of time = 4.32 billion years. All scientific theories (including plastic surgery and rhinoplasty) have Indian origins. What modern scientists are doing is mere re discovery 🙁 Now, the question arises – WHY THE HELL ARE WE MODERN ???

“There can no longer be any real doubt that both Islam and Christianity owe the foundations of both their mystical and their scientific achievements to Indian initiatives.”
– Philip Rawson (British Orientalist)

Sorry! error correction.

Indian smallest unit of time = 0.000029411765 seconds which is cube of the western value. Western smallest unit of time is just 0.030868 seconds. While Indian instruments were calibrated to the accuracy of 5 decimal places, west can only measure upto 2. Unfortunately! such instruments (including world’s oldest university) Takshashila was destroyed by cruel invaders. While the other cultures are combined to only their community or neighborhood (max to max a country) Indian philosophy speaks about: वसुधैव कुटुम्बकं । No other religion can be so great.

“After my study of 40 years of all great religions, I find none so perfect, none so scientific, none so spiritual, none so liberal as the great religion called as Hinduism.”
– Annie Wood Beasant (from British Theosophical society)

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