Introduction to Hinduism (edited with comments)

Introduction-to-Hinduism-(edited-with-comments)

There is a proverb in Sanskrit which states that if one mixes even a little poison in the food, the entire plate has to be rejected.

We shall understand the implications of this proverb through a case study. We shall take one of the articles of Dr Zakir Naik, the self-proclaimed scholar of comparative religion for this. We have already seen in previous series how Dr Naik has ably proved that Prophet Muhammad was predicted in Hindu scriptures, even if meant accepting that the Prophet was a ghost, demon, mass-murderer. You can review the analysis of Dr Naik’s research at http://agniveer.com/featured/prophet-hindu/ as a three part series.

Today, we shall take the excellent research article: “Introduction to Hinduism” by Dr Zakir Naik. You can review the original article at http://www.irf.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=145&Itemid=128

What we shall do here is to edit the article by strikethrough of certain portions and providing replacement in red color and comments in italics. By the end of the article, you would realize how a little poison makes the entire food deadly. You shall also realize this further when we analyze his next article on Hinduism in future.

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So here we BEGIN:

INTRODUCTION TO HINDUISM by Dr. Zakir Naik (Comment: We shall review his medical knowledge in a later post on Science in Quran and Vedas)

“The most popular among the Aryan religions is Hinduism.”

Comment:
(1. Very smartly, he has started by sowing doubts that Aryan and Hinduism imply different things. Later he says that Hinduism is based on Vedas.

2. Can Dr Naik or his IRF Team name few other religions which are Aryan but not Hinduism? Can they prove that the word Arya did not originate from Vedas? The strategy was Divide and Rule by sowing seeds of differences among smaller groups)

Dr Naik: “‘ Hindu’ is actually a Persian word that stands for the inhabitants of the region beyond the Indus Valley. However, in common parlance, Hinduism is a blanket term for an assortment of religious beliefs, most of which are (which is) based on the Vedas, the Upanishads and the Bhagavad Gita. “(as final authority and Upanishads and Geeta as other guiding texts)
Comment:
(Even Upanishads and Mahabharat claim Vedas to be the Supreme authority and clearly state that all other texts including Purans are to be interpreted in lines with Vedas. This is important because, what IRF will do is to twist and try to manipulate the meaning of verses to suit their own agenda of proving Muhammad left, right and center!)

Dr Naik: “II INTRODUCTION TO HINDU SCRIPTURES.
There are several sacred scriptures of the Hindus. Among these are the Vedas, Upanishads and the Puranas.

1. VEDAS:

1. The word Veda is derived from vid which means to know, knowledge par excellence or sacred wisdom. There are four principal divisions of the Vedas”

(although according to their number, they amount to 1131 out of which about a dozen are available)

Comment:
(1. This sentence was deliberately put to prove that complete Vedas are not available and hence Hindus should accept Quran as full and final message of God.

2. But the fact is that there are only 4 Vedas and ALL are available in exactly same format as they were first given.

3. The 1131 number of branches being referred is those of explanations/ variants of original Veda Samhitas. The original still remain intact without change of even a single pronunciation or pitch) .

Dr Naik: “According to Maha Bhashya of Patanjali, there are 21 branches of Rigveda, 9 types of Atharvaveda, 101 branches of Yajurveda and 1000 of Samveda).

2. The Rigveda, the Yajurveda and the Samveda are considered to be more ancient books and are known as Trai Viddya or the ‘Triple Sciences’. The Rigveda is the oldest and has been compiled in three long and different periods of time. The 4th Veda is the Atharvaveda, which is of a later date.
Comment:
(1. All Vedas are considered to be of same age. They were revealed at inception of human civilization. There is no proof whatsoever to conclude that Vedas were written over a long period of time and some Vedas are older, some of later date.

2. Dr Naik has brought forth the baseless conjecture of western indologists and communists to suit his own agenda.

3. Fact remains that there is not one single evidence to support his hypothesis except that it suits the agenda of invaders to prove that even Aryans were invaders and Vedas are not revealed.

4. Dr Naik has been openly challenged officially to come for a debate on this, but he prefers to remain in hiding.)

Dr Naik: “3. There is no unanimous opinion regarding the date of compilation or revelation of the four Vedas. According to Swami Dayanand, founder of the Arya Samaj, the Vedas were revealed 1310 million years ago”(1.97 billion years ago)

Comment:
(1. This is not Dayanand’s calculation but as given in Manu Smriti and Surya Siddhanta and accepted by most traditional scholars irrespective of their philosophical beliefs.

2. Modern science cannot refute this estimate and admits that this is near to their estimates of evolution of life on earth.

3. Swami Dayanand was specifically mentioned to emphasize that he gave such ridiculously large number as age of Vedas. This is because Arya Samaj and Swami Dayanand have been the strongest critics of Islam for last 125 years, starting Shuddhi or reconversion movement to come back to Vedic Dharma and a prime force to combat Islamic Jehad. Even today, Dr Naik and his IRF is scared of facing Arya Samaj directly, despite several official challenges for debate.)

Dr Naik: “According to other scholars, they are not more than 4000 years old.”

Comment:
(1. These other scholars are none other than Christian indologists and their followers who have not one single proof to support their claim except that they believe Biblical genesis to happen few thousand years ago!

2. Again this is emphasized to prove Hindus that Vedas may not be as important as they believe, and that Quran is most perfect voice of God.

3. The fact is that Vedas are the only texts in world to have oral traditions running till date and a mechanism to ensure that not even a single syllable or pronunciation can be altered through 10 different Paath Vidhis. (Refer this article)

4. On contrary, Quran was written 20 years after death of Muhammad by those who were fighting against each other and killing each other to prove Islam to be a religion of Peace.

5. A large number of sects of Islam refuse to accept Quran to be perfect or even Muhammad to be final Prophet. Many have thus also developed new Qurans and new Prophets. Click this sentence to refer to this list for 73 divisions of Islam since its inception. Further Islamic hadiths say that only one of them is true and rest will go to Hell! I am not sure where Dr Naik will go!)

Dr Naik: “4. Similarly, there are differing opinions regarding the places where these books were compiled and the Rishis to whom these Scriptures were given. Inspite of these differences, the Vedas are considered to be the most authentic of the Hindu Scriptures and the real foundations of the Hindu Dharma.”

Comment:
(1. The first part of the sentence was put to emphasize that Hindu Dharma is on a very shaky foundation, and thus justifying his appeal to come to Islam. But truth is that these differing opinions come from foreign intellectuals and communists alone who have their own agendas.

2. And most importantly, they can cite not one single evidence in support of this claim except names of certain places in Vedas. And this amounts to saying that Mahabharat has been written in last 10 years because it contains words like Lal, Krishna, Atal, Vihari, Rahul, Arjun, Manmohan, Rajiv, Laal, Prasad and even Naik!)

Dr Naik: “2. UPANISHADS:

1. The word ‘Upanishad’ is derived from Upa meaning near, Ni which means down and Shad means to sit. Therefore ‘Upanishad’ means sitting down near. Groups of pupils sit near the teacher to learn from him the secret doctrines.

According to Samkara, ‘Upanishad’ is derived from the root word Sad which means ‘to loosen’, ‘to reach’ or ‘to destroy’, with Upa and ni as prefix; therefore ‘Upanishad’ means Brahma-Knowledge by which ignorance is loosened or destroyed.
2. The number of Upanishads exceeds 200 though the Indian tradition puts it at 108. There are 10 principal Upanishads. However, some consider them to be more than 10, while others 18.

Comment:
(Again the same ploy to seed doubts over authenticity of our beliefs. Fact is that there are 10 Upanishads considered important, but even these are accepted to be authentic so far they agree with Vedas. This is because only Vedas have a mechanism that ensures they cannot be altered, and all knowledge started from Vedas.)

Dr Naik: “3. The Vedanta meant originally the Upanishads, though the word is now used for the system of philosophy based on the Upanishad. Literally, Vedanta means the end of the Veda, Vedasua-antah, and the conclusion as well as the goal of Vedas. The Upanishads are the concluding portion of the Vedas and chronologically they come at the end of the Vedic period.

4. Some Pundits consider the Upanishads to be more superior to the Vedas.

Comment:
(These must be Dr Naik’s gang of Pandits. Otherwise, even Upanishads declare that Vedas are final authority. This forms the foundation of Sanatan Dharma which needs to shaken to get more converts to IRF brand of Islam!)

Dr Naik: “3. PURANAS:

Next in order of authenticity are the Puranas which are the most widely read scriptures. It is believed that the Puranas contain the history of the creation of the universe, history of the early Aryan tribes, life stories of the divines and deities of the Hindus. It is also believed that the Puranas are revealed books like the Vedas, which were revealed simultaneously with the Vedas or sometime close to it.”

Comment:
(1. Very smartly he has inserted ‘tribe’ with Aryan to demean it. Truth is that if one reads through Hadiths, he would realize what a tribe actually means!

2. No one considers Puranas to be either revealed like Vedas or as old as Vedas. Puranas themselves repeat innumerable times that Vedas are ultimate authority and revelation of God, and Puranas are to be interpreted only as per Vedas.

3. Further, most scholars agree that Puranas contain significant adulterations and/or misinterpretations. That is why, in matters of moral conduct, Puranas are not considered to be the benchmark for Hindu society. And that is why, despite stories of Radha-Krishna, the norm of Hindu society is to emphasize self-control and Brahmacharya in youth. These stories are either rejected by certain scholars or reinterpreted to mean something mystical. But no one takes stories of Puranas literally – this is an important aspect of Hindu Dharma.

4. The reason why Dr Naik wants to emphasize on Puranas being revealed is obvious – He wants to prove Muhammad in Puranas later. But if you read my article on Prophet in Bhavishya Puran, you would realize that it means Muhammad was a demon, ghost and a great nuisance! This may be 74th sect of Islam that would go to Heaven!)

Dr Naik: “Maharishi Vyasa has divided the Puranas into 18 voluminous parts. He also arranged the Vedas under various heads.

Chief among the Puranas is a book known as Bhavishya Purana. It is called so because it is believed to give an account of future events. The Hindus consider it to be the word of God. Maharishi Vyasa is considered to be just the compiler of the book.”

Comment:
(1. This crazy emphasis on Bhavishya Puran was put to prove Muhammad – as ghost and demon – in Bhavishya Puran later!

2. But neither do Hindus take Bhavishya Puran seriously nor does it predict anything. It is a forged Purana that continued to be written till late 19th century. Apart from Muhammad , it also contains stories of Shivaji, Aurangzeb, Mughals, Queen Victoria, her Parliament etc etc. This is the least authentic book of Hinduism and contains lots of stories with questionable authenticity.

3. Most people have not even heard of this Purana, and none consider this important for any religious activity or reading. Far from a word of God, it is considered fake by most.

4. The only word of God Hindus believe in are the Vedas. And Dr Naik should be thankful for this, because Bhavishya Puran calls Muhammad a demon, a ghost and a nuisance!)

Dr Naik: “4. ITIHAAS:

The two epics of Hinduism are the Ramayana and the Mahabharata.

A. Ramayana:

According to Ramanuja, the great scholar of Ramayana, there are more than 300 different types of Ramayana: Tulsidas Ramayana, Kumbha Ramayana. Though the outline of Ramayana is same, the details and contents differ. ”

Comment:
(1. Ramanuj was a communist who insulted Ramayana characters by bringing insulting descriptions from different folklores, most known only to him. The daughter of Manmohan Singh, our PM, introduced his chapter in Delhi University. That caused a big uproar and the matter went to Supreme Court. It is still being contested but the chapter has been withdrawn by Delhi University because the Dean got thrashed for defending this insult of Ramayan characters.!

2. Suddenly, this Ramanuj, who is unknown to all except communists, becomes ‘great scholar’ for Dr Naik for obvious reasons.

3. All consider only Valmiki Ramayan to be authentic. Further, even in Valmiki Ramayan, all verses are not considered authentic and many seem to have entered later. Thus, scholars conclude that episodes like Sita’s Agni Pariksha and entire Uttar Ramayan that contains stories like Sita’s exile and Shambook’s death are later era figments of imagination having nothing to do with original Ramayan. We shall review this in a separate research.)

Dr Naik: “Valmiki’s Ramayana:

Unlike the Mahabharata, the Ramayana appears to be the work of one person – the sage Valmiki, who probably composed it in the 3rd century BC.
Comment:
(There is no evidence to date Ramayan to 3rd BC except tales of communist historians! Valmiki is mentioned in several works which are dated much before that!)

Its best-known recension (by Tulsi Das, 1532-1623) consists of 24,000 rhymed couplets of 16-syllable lines organised into 7 books. The poem incorporates many ancient legends and draws on the sacred books of the Vedas. It describes the efforts of Kosala’s heir, Rama, to regain his throne and rescue his wife, Sita, from the demon King of Lanka.

Valmiki’s Ramayana is a Hindu epic tradition whose earliest literary version is a Sanskrit poem attributed to the sage Valmiki. Its principal characters are said to present ideal models of personal, familial, and social behavior and hence are considered to exemplify Dharma, the principle of moral order.”

Comment:
(At last! finally so many lines without significant blunders!)

Dr Naik: “B. Mahabharata:

The nucleus of the Mahabharata is the war of eighteen days fought between the Kauravas, the hundred sons of Dhritarashtra and Pandavas, the five sons of Pandu. The epic entails all the circumstances leading upto the war. Involved in this Kurukshetra battle were almost all the kings of India world joining either of the two parties. The result of this war was the total annihilation of Kauravas and their party. Yudhishthira, the head of the Pandavas, became the sovereign monarch of Hastinapura. His victory is supposed to symbolise the victory of good over evil. But with the progress of years, new matters and episodes relating to the various aspects of human life, social, economic, political, moral and religious as also fragments of other heroic legends came to be added to the aforesaid nucleus and this phenomenon continued for centuries until it acquired the present shape. The Mahabharata represents a whole literature rather than one single and unified work, and contains many multifarious things.

C. Bhagavad Gita:

Bhagavad Gita is a part of Mahabharata. It is the advice given by Krishna to Arjun on the battlefield of Kurukshetra. It contains the essence of the Vedas and is the most popular of all the Hindu Scriptures. It contains 18 chapters.

The Bhagavad Gita is one of the most widely read and revered of the works sacred to the Hindus. It is their chief devotional book, and has been for centuries the principal source of religious inspiration for many thousands of Hindus.

The Gita is a dramatic poem, which forms a small part of the larger epic, the Mahabharata. It is included in the sixth book (Bhismaparvan) of the Mahabaharata and documents one tiny event in a huge epic tale.

The Bhagavad Gita tells a story of a moral crisis faced by Arjuna, which is solved through the interaction between Arjuna, a Pandava warrior hesitating before battle, and Krishna, his charioteer and teacher. The Bhagavad Gita relates a brief incident in the main story of a rivalry and eventually a war between two branches of a royal family. In that brief incident – a pause on the battlefield just as the battle is about to begin – Krishna, one chief on one side (also believed to be the Lord incarnate), is presented as responding to the doubts of Arjuna. The poem is the dialogue through which Arjuna’s doubts were resolved by Krishna’s teachings.”

Comment:
(As a smart covert hypnotist, Dr Naik ends up the article without seeding further doubts so that it all appears unbiased and normal. This also gives time to plant the ideas that he has previously introduced subtly:

a. Aryans were tribals
b. Authenticity of Vedas, the primary texts of Hindu Dharma, are questionable
c. Vedas are not as old as they are assumed to be
d. Swami Dayanand and Arya Samaj make ridiculous assumptions about Vedas
e. Bhavishya Puran is most important text of Hindu Dharma
f. Other texts apart from Vedas are also considered equally authentic
g. Ramayan and Ram may not be authentic

Now these subtle suggestions are to serve his future agenda, as also obvious in his research on Prophet in Hindu Scriptures!)

This is nothing but a variant of a technique permitted in some schools of Islam which allows you to use deceit and confusion to defeat the enemy. But I hope everyone shall accept truth and truth alone! Because a little poison is a dangerous thing!

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Comments

  1. Frostmorune says

    Wonderful job Sir!
    Actually I learnt more about Hinduism here..
    Keep it up! n1

    Eternal regards,
    Frostmorune

  2. naveen says

    agniveer ji,
    you are doing a great work plz keep on doing this. you'll definately get success.
    thanks for helping the humanity, and standing with truth. may god gives you more and more knowledge so that you can bring these false and lier in front of humanity.

  3. says

    Very good article. Naik does distort the truth. That is sanctioned by Allah though, its called Taqiyah distorting for the benefit of Islam. Just a couple corrections to suggest:
    - you wrote "…the meaning of verses to suite there " the word should be 'suit' not 'suite', and 'their' not 'there'.

    Also you changed:
    "most of which are" to "(which is)" The which are here is referring to "beliefs" which is plural. In other words "the beliefs are based on … "

    Keep up the good work.

    • says

      Thanks sister for pointing that out.

      The second was not a mistake though. If you read the edited sentence, it would state that "Hinduism is….. , which is based on Vedas as final authority and …..". I wanted to emphasize that despite other differences, Vedas remain the foundation of Hinduism.

    • says

      A lot about islam and Muhammad is already in public forum. But we now need material which also compares that with true perspectives of our own culture. Further, what Zakir Naik propagates is his own Zakirism which is different from conventional Islam as well. Being a tacit partner of Osama Bin laden, he is one of the greatest threats of today's world.

      • Razak says

        wats ur source of saying tat ?
        all ur sources are wrong.. u want to debate with Dr. Zakir Naik ? no problem… i already spoke to him… Give me ur number i will contact u for more details… Brother u r misguided the translation u did is wrong..
        go to the bext website for vedas i.e. http://www.sacred-text.com
        Bhavishya Purana in the Prati Sarag Parv III Khand 3 Adhay 3 Shloka 5 to 8

        Bhavishya Purana in the Pratisarag Parv III Khand 3 Adhay 3 Shloka 10 to 27 Maharishi Vyas

        Bhavishya Purana, Parv – III Khand 1 Adhay 3 Shloka 21-23

        check it out dnt just copy paste from other websites which has edited text/picture of the verse

        u can email me ur number we can really have a friendly chat….n dicuss ur debate with Dr.Zakir Naik. :) thanks brother….

  4. Harinarayan Gopi says

    GREAT REALLY GREAT AGNIVEERJI, WE HINDUS REALLY PROUD OF YOU, KEEP IT UP AND INVITE THAT NONSENSE NAIK TO DEBATE
    ON HINDUISM ON A SUITABLE STAGE.

      • MZS says

        You select the best amongst yourselves and ask for a debate. Problem is every blogger wants to have a debate on internet where as your scholars shy from it live with Zakir .Recently UK banned him from entering UK . He cannot entertain everybody as he is human but certainly couple of guys. He had discussions with Sri Ravishankar, lot of things were discussed. So many of you said Ravishankar doesnt know anything. You decide first who is fit to go and make things final rather do propaganda on internet.

        • Arya says

          @MZS
          Who is “you” and what is “yours”? Problem is that most of the muslims analyze our articles as “written by a hindu”, but we have altogether different perspective. We talk about Vedas and Quran rather than Hindu and Muslim. Zakir knows about Vedic expertise of Arya Samaj scholars and he knows that he will be crushed within minutes. This is why he is running away from debate giving excuses of “less crowd following the Arya Samaj”!

          Zakir has been banned in UK and muslims are crying! Why dont muslims allow people from other religions preach their ideology in Islamic states? This is nothing but cowardliness of muslims to ask freedom of speech in every country but ban everyone else who does not follow Islam. Muslims should not cry on this issue as they do same with others!

          Did Ravishankar ever debate Zakir? Was it a debate or a discussion? Anyway, you would like to see the debate between Arya scholar Pandit Mahendra Pal Arya and Islamic preacher of Peace TV Abdullah Tariq, in which Abdullah Tariq was defeated badly. See this debate on
          http://www.youtube.com/user/truthwisdom2008

          • MZS says

            No Muslim should weep neither anybody weeping , people are only exposing the hypocrisy of UK govt. They have the right to allow people of their choice but a propaganda is quickly exposed. Their lies covered with so called western ethos is the problem Truth never requires anybody’s help.

          • Arya says

            @MZS
            Are not muslims hypocrite for not allowing others preach their religion but demand for freedom of speech while preaching Islam? If truth never requires anybody’s help, why do muslims help truth (Islam), by not allowing other religions preach alongside Islam?

          • MZS says

            Time will come may be everybody will be allowed everywhere. However what I m pointing is the hypocrisy of a govt its not that other govts are truthful

          • MZS says

            Regarding Islamic countries they never say that they have free speech in their country and truthful in that sense rather than being a hitech hypocrite.

          • SDC says

            okay then, that is settled, the west is hypocrite and the arab world is exclusionist, intolerant, and rigid.

          • MZS says

            India has more population of Muslims compared to other Muslim countries and everyday they see that Vedas have no place in terms of practicality in present India leave alone rest of the world

          • SDC says

            and in what ways is the quran being practical, that the extremists treat the hateful verses of quran as the guiding spirit in their endeavor to extirpate the nonmuslims.

          • MZS says

            @SDC
            What I mean is that It doesn’t give penal code,formulate one in veda then we shall talk on this.

        • dharmayoddha says

          MZS

          muslim parrot, I want to have a debate with zakir nalayak. My question is very simple, the constitution allows me to practise any form of worship, who is this idiot zakir naik to say that idol worshipping is wrong when it is practised by 80% of population. He got more brains than 90 crore hindus?
          If I say islam is false and namaz, (raising ass to allah) is wrong, how will he take it in a public debate?

        • akshay says

          your joker only picks gullible opponents those who dont have enough knowledge about Islam ask him to debate with arya samaj or ali sina his time will end..this same joker says that it is legal to kill the apostats and all religion expect Islam should be banned becos they teach 2+2=5 LOL wat a logic only expected from a muslim scholar

      • says

        ZAKIR NAIK IS A FRAUD N HE S EXPOSED NT TO INDIAN BT ALSO TO THE PPL OUTWARD HE WAS CHALLENGED SEPERATELY FOR DISCUSSION BT HE DENIED IT PROVES THAT HE S A COWARD N HE S A LIAR N DOESNT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT OUR DHARMA N ON THE WEBSITE HE S CONTINUOUSLY PROMOTING LIE.HE BELIEVES IN GOEBELS THEORY IT STATES THAT IF U TELL A LIE REPEATEDLY MANY TIMES IT LL APPEAR AS TRUE. BT HE FORGOT THAT THE VEDAS R ABSOLUTE TRUTH N EVEN 600 YEARS OF ISLAMIC RULE COULDNT GT SUCCESS TO MAKE INDIA DARULISLAM THEN HE WONT BE ABLE TO CONVERT A SINGLE HINDU.IF HE GVS ONE LECTURE WE LL CONDUCT TEN LECTURES TO PROVE HIM A LIAR A REAL LIFE LIAR.
        VEDA THE ULTIMATE PATH OF SPIRITUALITY

      • chaitanya says

        namaste agniveerji
        plz tell me which book should i reffer while living as hindu…if vedas then why not bhagvatgita?

  5. says

    We need everyone of us together to fight the menace of barbarism and misrepresentation. Its time for us all to unite once again and rewrite the future!

  6. says

    With no malice towards anyone, I believe that self-proclaimed gurus are the greatest distraction for our Vedic vision. For them religion is either a business or ply for petty glory (that would end with end of life!). They overrule the criteria and conditions laid down for a sage or a guru and simply fool people. Having such people as leaders of the society will only spell doom. Our present status is evidence of the same.

    I do not expect any guru to come and help us. Let us get back to basics, and discover the vedic role model within our own self. Such role models alone can respond to such frauds.

  7. says

    Namaste

    I agree. I am more than willing to promote the truth regarding our esteemed culture and misconceptions being floated to demean it. An Arya Rashtra in lines of vision of Sri Ram and Sri Krishna is my vision. With whatever resources I had, I started this on internet. I would be happy if interested people can join the mission by helping coordinate with like-minded noble people so that this can be taken further. It would require coordination, planning and management and require us to work coherently. Please note that the research that goes beneath each article takes up a lot of time and energy, because unlike Dr Zakir Naik, I cannot base my articles on falsehood or unreliable sources. Each letter of the article is well-researched and backed with evidence. This becomes a dedicated effort and until I complete the entire spectrum of issues identified in first phase, I do not want to distract into other aspects. But I keep publishing on internet so that others can freely use the content for further propagation. Thus you are most welcome to use it for the mission. And do let me know what I can do further to help the cause.

    Dhanyavad

  8. says

    Indeed! I would request that these articles be propagated far and wide, to best each of us can do. I have included social bookmarking features on site to help share it on facebook, digg, myspace etc and email to relevant people. At least let these rebuttals be as popular on net as original frauds of Zakir Naik. And then some of us can take it at ground level also.
    But yes! We will respond to all nonsense that threatens us. And with we all together, we shall do it more powerfully than ever before!

  9. says

    zakir naik is misguiding the whole hindu religion in terms of his own imagination
    without refering to any scriptures .so this type of persons are so dangererous to
    india . how christians are doing by wrong explanations to bhagvadgita

    • says

      Zakir Naik is simply plagiarizing from books of other sects of Islam to claim false popularity. In process, he has become one of the greatest threats for humanity.

  10. Deepak Dogra says

    I was in confusion after the talks of Dr Zakir Naik which I used to see on the internet.
    I consider myself as a rationalist but was demoralised when I watched the conference between Dr Naik and Sri Sri Ravi Shanker where Dr Naik had an upper hand.
    Thank you for bringing out the truth;satya-meva- jayate,
    Sadar pranam.

    Deepak

    • says

      Zakir Naik is smart enough to choose opponents and formats of programs where he can have upper hand. That is why he keeps ignoring invitations from us for a debate.

    • says

      If you find them useful, kindly circulate the article. You can subscribe to RSS feed, email and tweet the article using the option next to title. You can also use the Add Options at end of article to share on social networking sites. To bring the truth forth, we need to promote the truth as much as we can. Dhanyavad

      • Rj3865 says

        Respected Sir ,
        Its great to read your articles and you are awesum, I would like to request to join a group named TRUE HINDUISM in my fb account and my id is casanovapal3865@yahoo.in …. I’ll surely spreading this msg through all means i can and its our turn to propagate true dharma …

  11. satish says

    namaskar and congratulations to Agniveer
    only recently while talking to one of my Muslim patient who asked me whether i had listened to Zakir Naik. I said he is mad fellow who looks through only one angle and twists the things suitable for his religion. I also said he has not received yet a person who will tackle him well and Lo God listened to me ! He should preach to Muslims Quran and Hadis ok but when the sages and saints of Hindu religion can still dip into Vedas to find new things how Zakir minno will know about Vedas ! — Dr. Satish

    • says

      Zakir Naik knows nothing of Vedas except that he has mugged up certain verse numbers. His knowledge of Hadiths and Quran also is dismal. He is merely a stage performer. Most of the evidences he provides from Quran and Hadiths are also misinterpreted. He has been challenged so many times to accept a debate invitation as per his convenience, but he refuses for obvious reasons.

      I pity the Muslims to have such fraud leaders to disgrace them.

      • aditya says

        respected agniveerji,
        if zakir naik is a coward to talk to you people, I have an idea to tackle him. why don’t you and a group of scholars go to one of his speech and ask him a few questions and challenge him in front of 1000′s of people. in that kind of situation,he will not be in a position to deny it. after that you can expose him . I am waiting for that moment. please fulfill my wish.
        thanks

    • RazakK says

      U can visit IRF library he has all the holy books…. he has studied everything… also really ? u people talking so much non sense writing anything… ISLAM was the religion who gave rights to women… please understand the real Quran not the edited one available on net .. READ QURAN for the real meaning. there are many other Questions of urs i can answer…. just mail me back i will reply to all of ur questions… n please tel agniveer to give me his contact number n i wil lfix a meeting of his n Dr. Zakir Naik. Zakir Naik is ready for the debate…. Thanks Bye…

      • aditya says

        if Islam treated women equally, why don’t men wear burqa or hijab? why the wife is not allowed to hit her husband?and why can’t a women marry 3-4 men. Islam is the most hypocritical religion I have ever seen. you say one and follow the opposite.

  12. says

    Thanks for propagating the truth. Actually, most Muslims including Zakir Naik who claim such things know that they are indulging in fraud. But they do so because they have a hidden agenda. They have a concept of Taqiah inspired by Quran where one is allowed to indulge in falsehood to destroy the enemy. Their duplicity is exposed when the same scholars would refuse to accept Vedas as divine revelations or actually dwell into mantras in detail. This is merely a ploy to fool Hindus. Zakir Naik has done nothing but has prepared lists of verses from various books and memorize them. He then simply recites these numbers having no iota of understanding about what he is speaking about.

    If someone is willing to devote 2-3 hours daily, I can make him even bigger memory demonstrator than Zakir Naik in just few months.

  13. Ohm says

    BEAUTIFUL. Beyond explaination.

    This demon has done enough of damage to our scriptures. Character of demon is to confuse the religion, this is what this Dr. Idi0t Naik is good at.

    We need to hold strong to our culture otherwise the people are already there to malign it.

    If these idi0ts can have the "Islamic Research Foundation" what the hell is stopping us from having our own "Vedic Research Foundation" and study of compatriate religions (specifically the demonic cult Islam).

    If these Idi0ts can have "Peace tv"(actually the intellectual terrorism and confusion of other religions by demons), what is stopping us from having "Veda Tv".

    We have the best knowledge. Why are we suffering due to shouting of demons? What is stopping us?

    Why are we not brave enough? Is the strength and knowledge of Almighty enough to shake away all the fears and confusions?

    Tell us how can we unite? Tell us how can we do small contributions to make it a big effort. Tell us how to unite and make this thing big. There is not the time to sleep anymore OH Aryans, its the time to wake up. The demons have already raged the war on you.

    • says

      I agree. We need to unite ignoring petty differences and any internal discrimination. Zakir has access to petro-dollars and terrorist-funds. If we can get a few crores (expense of just one Janamashtmi function in New Delhi), we can really turn the tables. After all truth is with us. Hindus need to realize that collecting funds for such activities is the only way to truly worship their Ishwar.

    • dharmayoddha says

      Actually we need an anti-islamic research foundation.
      They have peace TV, we must have War TV. :))

      • aditya says

        we cannot directly attack other religion on the air. we need to start some channel which preaches the Hindu scriptures with scientific backing. automatically all Muslims will understand Santana dharma. if they criticize once we should do it ten times. by this way we can indirectly attack them

  14. R-H says

    Zakir Naik claims that "Quran does not contain even a single error , while other scriptures contains error"…

    Almost all muslims claim that there is no error in Quran…

    For all those who claim that there is no error in Quran… Please go through this link:

    http://www.1000mistakes.com/1000mistakes/index.ph

    In the above link with valid proof it has been proved that Quran is full of Error…

    The website owner states that :
    "Please inform all and everybody and all relevant fora – f. ex. Internet pages for debate or information – about the address http://www.1000mistakes.com. It is information that is urgently needed by many, not least by Muslims. No god made a book with so many mistakes and other wrongs – and if the Quran and Islam are made up by humans or dark forces, where are the followers of this inhumanly dark and brutal war religion heading for in a possible next life?"

    So please inform about this website to all those(Like Zakir ji) who claim that Quran is without a single error!!

  15. says

    It's all much like how Muslims also say the Quran has been "misinterpreted". My response to this is if the Quran has been misinterpreted, then all Islamic nations and people have done so! So the fault lies with it's creator.

    And their goal is only some mythical swarglok, not moksh! And they hardly create Swarg here, and even Raawan was a man of intellectual understanding (Veds), nowhere as bad as Mohammud and his illiterates!

    Dr. Naik should read Satyarth Prakash, and Hindus need to stop living in the shadow of Gandhi and his silly ahimsa-dharm! That's what caused Bharat Mata to be overrun by these asurs in the first place!

    http://WWW.SATYAVIDYA.COM

  16. atul mukherji says

    Atul Mukherji.
    I am going through your continuous efforts and also going through the Vedas from Aryasamajjamnagar link.
    Sanskrit was one of my subjects in high school but that was a long time back in 1981.Can you suggest a link which helps me to improve my Sanskrit?
    At the end I shall only add, great work Sir.

    • says

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      Dhanyavad

  17. Pradeep says

    Namaste agniveerji,
    Truely commendable analysis and explanations, to start with I have 5 close friends and all of them are muslims, we are friends like for last 20 years and recently one our friend was forcing me to join Islam and his arguements were exactly same as you have pointed out by Mr Zakir Naik, Thank you for opening the eyes at the right time I am truely greatful to you.

    Also I would like to learn sanskrit and learn vedas by myself do you know where i can learn these?

    Dhanyavad

  18. Dharma says

    Agniveerji,
    you are doing a great job. Now i know why Zakir Naik and his IRF team is a fraid of Arya Samaj. Satyameva Jayate.

  19. Madhu says

    I strongly support whatever it takes to prevent this guy from spreading the nonsense. He is openely encouraging inlarge public functions that one should destroy idol worship and kill all those who does not believe in Mohammed which is equal to terrorism in the name of comparative religion. I am really surprised that the Indian government has not done anything about this. He openely insulted Sri Sri Sri Ravishankar and hinduism in front of scores of people. Ravishankarji just surrendered to him which sends wrong signals to people. I suspect if Ravishankar actually knows this vedic knowledge or he is one among so many Khavi clad Swamy. I think we should take this issue publicly and to governmental level and stop this guy spreading the demon religion and converting tht Vedas itself into Quron.

  20. Zane says

    Which ‘large’ sect in Islam which reject the authenticity of Quran were you referring to? Can you name the sect?

    • Sri says

      Isn’t that a sham that he considers it as victory over Ravi Shankar?

      I have simplest question for any Muslim or stupid Zakir Naik: What is the proof that Allah reveled Koran to Mohammad? Please I asked many times many Muslims? Their reply is: trust me.

      Koran says Koran is the proof fro Allah. now ask this what is the meaning of Allah? What is Allah?

      Look at the worst things:

      Now that Islam and Koran are exposed so miserably, Muslims have come out with arguments like there are many interpretations for Koran.

      But Koran says religion is easy and Koran is easy to understand. Hell with this understanding? Muslims themselves are not sure.

      Dr. Ali Sina himself offered to debate with this pig. He refused. His cronie says manuy bloggers have challenged him too. It is so interesting that even a blogger could call bluff of Zakir Naik; But if I am correct bloggers are fully equipped with weapons that Zakir Naik can not even answer.

      He gives false covering for verses 9:5 and 9:29 and 8:39.

      Hey guys, if you ever want to debate with a Muslim, quote this verse of 33:50.

      What we have here is reverse submission way: Allah submitting to the carnal desires of Mohammad.

      When Allah wants humans submit to his command shouldn’t his message be clear? He was so busy satisfying the carnal desires of Mohammad that he forgot to tell Mohammad to preserve the book and write his biography because Allah mandated that Mohammad is example for Muslims to follow.

  21. says

    dear agniveer
    would like to thank you for your sincere efforts . i have made some observations during the last months. zakir naik holds conferences and they are all well planned with predujiced imbeciles who clap at his stupid comments on hinduism and other religions . they are openly saying bad things about our religion .this is now so embarrasing and i wish that you and other good people also arrange similar programs ,well arranged not like how you are doing so now , the debate of pandit suderlal aryaji with the mentor of zakir naik should be like how he has so cunningly planned in a big auditorium with good sound effects.

    the fantastic lectures of panditji are in a room with not good audio . the muslims are doing the propoganda so systematically ,so should we .

    thanks ninad

  22. Manikant says

    Logic of Zakir Naik

    Example 1)

    2+2 = 4, So Islam is true.

    This logic is like this:

    One day Zakir Naik was teaching about his religion to a few students.

    Zakir Naik: ” If the train is running at a speed of 70 km/hour , then what is my age” ?

    Student: ” Sir, your age is 44 years.”

    Zakir Naik : (proudly gave a back pat to the student and said) : ” Very good. How did you arrive at my correct age ” ?

    Student: ” Sir, I have a brother at home who is half mad and he is 22 years old. “

  23. Manikant says

    Logic of Zakir Naik
    Example 2)

    I had read a joke when nearly 10 years back.
    It was like this: Two friends are lost in a jungle. The tribals who were cannibals found them. Both of them were tied and taken to the place of sacrifice which was before a big black stone. The tribals started their dance and other rituals. Then the two friends were given coconut water and bathed. Then they were given a choice: Either select death or oogah. They knew what death meant. So to select the safer of the two choices – the first friend opted for oogah.
    Immediately 500 tribals stood in queue and removed the clothes of the first friend. Then he was made to stand with his front side resting on a wall and one by one, the 500 took their turns to perform ‘oogah’ by coming to him from the back with their ‘ uncircumcised weapons ‘.
    The poor fellow just could not take up all of this. He died.
    Then the second friend was given the same choice. He had seen the happenings to his friend and out of fear of the ‘oogah’ performance opted for death.
    The tribals respected his choice and said to him – you will get death (your wish is granted) — BUT FIRST OOGAH.
    There was no other go for the second friend too. He had to suffer OOGAH.
    To sum up – death or no death – OOGAH IS A MUST.
    This is the logic of Zakir Naik and all the Islamists.
    They will want to debate – at their own terms and according to their own interpretations. Whether you debate with them or not – you are considered defeated. Standing on the debating podium is just a formality. You will be booed and shooed out of your arguments, while their planted people will be hand clapping at all their illogical quotes.

  24. Manikant says

    3) Circular logic:
    Islam is good because the Quran says so.
    The Quran is the word of God because Mohammed says so.
    Mohammed is great because Islam says so.
    4) Logic of Zakir Naik:
    An apostate (of Islam) has to be killed – ( he compares with an army desrter) just like a person leaving the army is killed – meaning he is a traitor.
    Religion = self improvement
    Army = defends borders.
    The example Zakir Naik has used is wrong. The army deserters are not killed. They are subject to the laws of the country.
    Rather, he should have given the example of a criminal wanting to leave the underworld mafia. The underworld mafia does not allow to leave them as they fear that their secrets will be spilled. They just kill the person who wants to leave crime.

  25. Manikant says

    Mohammed prophesied in the Buddhist scriptures – Fool Zakir Naik does not understand the meaning of a monk.

    - HE WILL KEEP UP THE SOCIETY OF MONKS NUMBERING MANY THOUSANDS, EVEN AS NOW I KEEP UP A SOCIETY OF MONKS NUMBERING MANY HUNDREDS.”

    You are debunked there. Your whole construction is fallacious. Mohammed was not a monk. He was a householder.
    A monk is one who is – a celibate, who does not own anything, and one who has renounced the world, one who leads an ascetic life.
    A monk does not have sexual life.
    Mohammed had 13 wives and countless concubines and sex slaves. And upto his death he had a good sexual appetite and also could satisfy it very much.

    Secondly, a BUDDHA does not engage in war. A Buddha does not take any spoils of war. Mohammed engaged in war mercilessly and also took his share of the spoils of war.
    A Buddha does not partake of the looted money (sinful)
    A Buddha does not loot. Mohammed looted many caravans.

    Stop fooling people please.

    Go back to the one who has fed you this nonsense and again get something else from him to compare with.

    • sona says

      brother, can i ask u one thing? is ur info tht mohammed had sex slaves, looted caravans and was a useless man based on solid evidence or just pure prejudice?

        • sona says

          yes…but hav u actually read thm? not those on muslim hating forums but true translations written by scholars? yes brother i do believe in the quran , becoz its the word of god and partially in hadiths becoz those r work of men( scholars) nontheless….yes hadiths may b conflicting but not the quran…

          • dharmayoddha says

            @sona
            I have read koran authentic translation, abdullah yusuf ali, and I felt like puking. So, I did the next best thing, flushed it down the toilet after burning it.
            Well, mohammed did participate in raiding caravans, and he himself killed about 34 people in his lifetime,and personally destroyed idols in mecca with his own stick. I can give yu exact figueres from authentic muslim sources, but It will take time and a little research.

          • Humanity says

            @ Sona -

            I am completing, the remaining weak answer of Manikant.

            One who commands looting of a caravan, who marries a child, who approves of killing in the name of God, etc are called negative personalities. Unfortunately we cannot use such words as devil, pedophile, sex maniac, etc.

            Why does Islam kill in the name of God?

            If you want to get more enlightened about Islam just read the testimonials of those who left Islam from wikiisilam or from the apostatesofislam website or even you can read the testimonials from faithfreedom.org

            Why do Muslims after coming out from the Friday prayers seem more agitated than calm? Has anyone wondered? The killings that followed the Quran burning by Terry Jones, in Afghanistan happened on a Friday after the prayers. Mere coincidence?

            Why do the peaceful Muslims kill the peaceful Ahmadiyyas in Pakistan and Indonesia?

            WARNING – EXTREME Brutality and Killings Indonesia. Use discretion.
            http://www.youtube.com/verify_age?next_url=http%3A//www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DaH2AuhBHDwQ

            Killing in the name of Islam
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N-7qeENdDI&feature=related

            What more can one expect from the so called religion of peace?

          • Rj3865 says

            @sona
            U believe in Quran because its a word of god and you believe that its word of god because since childhood you were told so, if I ask you to prove that it is word of god how will you prove it ? You even wont be able to prove yourself that its word of god when u judge being unbiased …

            What you will do if I say so that Quran is word of satan , wont you believe me as you believe it a word of god believing what you were said …

            Judge your Quran on basis of humanity and intelligence , you will find it a fake , useless book which has no use for mankind…

      • Manikant says

        @ Sona – Mariya, the Copt, was a slave girl. Mohamed had sex with her and had a son – Ibrahim, who died, unfortunately.

        Mohamed ordered his people to loot caravans.

        As to, you believing only in Quran and not in Hadiths – why?

        Afraid that the Hadiths speak more truth than the Quran?

        The Hadiths are all true – why? Because no one write a false Hadith. It will be considered as blasphemy and in Islam blasphemy is a sure invitation for death. Do not forget the recent killing of Salman Taseer in Pakistan and another minister who was a Christian in Pakistan. These people were killed just because they tried to dilute the harsh blasphemy laws in Pakistan.

        You people selectively choose the Hadiths which paint Mohamed as an angel and reject the Hadiths which paint Mohamed as a negative personality.

  26. Manikant says

    Buddha has not compelled to follow him or his books or anything. He also never claimed he is telling the truth. He does not have to offer proofs. All know that Buddha does not lie. He does not gain anything worldly. He was a King who renounced all pleasures of life.
    Mohammed was playboy and pleasure seeking. It is the Muslims claiming that Buddha prophesied the coming of Mohammed which is sought to be negated . Quoting selectively to suit one’s purpose defies all logic. While quoting the coming of Mohammed you say Buddha prophesied and hence it is truth. In the same breath you cannot accept that Buddha speaks the truth.

    The Buddhas always speak the truth. The Enlightened People never lie.

    Mohammed was not an enlightened person

  27. Manikant says

    A very interesting question asked on Yahoo/Answers

    Muslims; If you truly believe that your religion is the truth then you should be able to answer this question?
    Your god is said to be all powerful. Which means he can do anything, am I correct?
    Answer this, can he make something so big that he can’t lift it? If yes, there is something he can’t lift, hence he is not all powerful. If no, then there is something he can’t make, hence he is not all powerful.

  28. dogra says

    >We need everyone of us together to fight the menace of barbarism and misrepresentation. Its time for us all to unite once again and rewrite the future!

    Reply

    Indeed Indeed, let the facts speak

  29. N.Prakash says

    one of my muslim frnd was saying to me that Dr.zaheer naik has defeated ssrs and
    argued that he found many errors in vedas. though i was very strong in believing our vedas i am miserable to know wats the truth behind his argument now i am very happy that i have known more about vedas by reading urs article and also came 2 know about the true face of zaheer naik

  30. khemchandra9188 says

    Lord Shiva & Arrangement of Universe
    ————————————————-
    Time, space, Blackhole, and Consciousness are arranged in a “Tetrahedral” geometrical shape in Shiva’s Head.
    – Two slighlty opened eyes are “Time & Space”. When Lord Shiva slightly kept opened his two eyes, light enters into it (time & space) and the Universe becomes live.
    – Third eye represents all knowing vision or powerful destructive tool to revert back matter into silent space.
    – Pineal Gland deep inside the head is the seat of the Consciousness and it is located at the centre of the crown of the planar three eye triangle which forms the tetrahedron a fundamental sacred geometrical structure.
    – Time, Space, Blackhole, and Consciousness are arranged in powerful Tetrahedral equilibrium state which is the most stable gemetrical form in the Universe. Diamond is an atomic tetrahedral arrangement of Carbon which is most hardest & stable material on the earth.
    – Interaction between Time, Space, Blackhole, and Consciousness is the secret of the Universe how it is functioning which is most critical for understanding how the matter exists and evolve in the Universe.

    • KalBhairav says

      Beautiful video that, Atul. AFAIK, that is 100% accurate! Maybe we can look forward to a rebuttal to that video made by Digvijay Singh, Barkha Dutt, Mahesh Bhatt, N Ram, Dileep Padgaonkar, Prannoy Roy, etc. ;-)

      • shravak says

        @KB

        looks like you’re very angry/irritated with these media giants. perhaps, to their pseudo-secular mindset.

  31. says

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  32. sanathana dharma says

    namaste agniveerji..
    you are doing a great job.we hindus always treat every religion as truth. zakir naik is a worst fellow.Don’t know whether hindus are sleeping or tolerant.

  33. waz says

    Do u know the meaning of “Na tasya pratima asti” YAJUR VED 32:3..(are u following that?) Then say anything which u wanna say…

    • Truth Seeker says

      @waz
      ___________Do u know the meaning of “Na tasya pratima asti___________
      Meaning, we should not bow before any stone like kaba or go around it or kiss black stone etc. This mantra clearly deny to practice this. As per Mantra Allah is formless then why we should bow before Kaba stone? If Allah is formless no need of bowing before stones. Bowing before stone means idolatry. Why Muslim are following idolatry.

  34. waz says

    1. Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) Prophesised in Atharvaveda

    IRF:
    In the 20th book of Atharvaveda Hymn 127 Some Suktas (chapters) are known as Kuntap Sukta. Kuntap means the consumer of misery and troubles. Thus meaning the message of peace and safety and if translated in Arabic means Islam.
    Analysis:
    1. By this logic, all books of spiritualism and self-help and their content would mean Islam! Because Peace and removal of misery are the primary goals of any spiritual text on self-help book.
    2. Considering that Vedas came way before Muhammad founded Islam, this only means that whatever peaceful or good was brought by Muhammad in Islam was actually already a part of Vedic traditions. And that the word Islam was already existing way before Muhammad adapted it to name his cult.
    It is welcoming that Muslims are now acknowledging that they owe their peacefulness to Vedas. I hope they would take this journey of seeking truth even further and completely embrace the Vedas to reach their original roots.
    IRF:
    Kuntap also means hidden glands in the abdomen. These mantras are called so probably because their true meaning was hidden and was to be revealed in future. Its hidden meaning is also connected with the navel or the middle point of this earth. Makkah is called the Ummul Qur’a the mother of the towns or the naval of the earth. In many revealed books it was the first house of Divine worship where God Almighty gave spiritual nourishment to the world. The Qur’an says in Surah Ali-Imran chapter 3, verse 96:
    “The first house (of worship) appointed for men was that at Bakkah (Makkah) full of blessings and of guidance and for all kinds of beings”. Thus Kuntap stands for Makkah or Bakkah.
    Analysis:
    1. Which dictionary states that Kuntaap means hidden glands in the abdomen?
    2. Further, even if it means so, as researched by Dr Naik, how does it link with navel? In abdomen, all other organs are hidden inside – liver, stomach, intestine etc. It is only the navel which is not hidden!
    3. The third line of IRF quote obviously…

  35. waz says

    BHAGAVAD GITA

    The most popular amongst all the Hindu scriptures is the Bhagavad Gita.

    Consider the following verse from the Gita:

    “Those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires surrender unto demigods and follow the particular rules and regulations of worship according to their own natures.”
    [Bhagavad Gita 7:20]

    The Gita states that people who are materialistic worship demigods i.e. ‘gods’ besides the True God.

    UPANISHADS:

    The Upanishads are considered sacred scriptures by the Hindus.

    The following verses from the Upanishads refer to the Concept of God:

    1.

    “Ekam evadvitiyam”
    “He is One only without a second.”
    [Chandogya Upanishad 6:2:1]1
    2.

    “Na casya kascij janita na cadhipah.”
    “Of Him there are neither parents nor lord.”
    [Svetasvatara Upanishad 6:9]2
    3.

    “Na tasya pratima asti”
    “There is no likeness of Him.”
    [Svetasvatara Upanishad 4:19]3
    4.

    The following verses from the Upanishad allude to the inability of man to imagine God in a particular form:

    “Na samdrse tisthati rupam asya, na caksusa pasyati kas canainam.”

    “His form is not to be seen; no one sees Him with the eye.”
    [Svetasvatara Upanishad 4:20]4

    1[The Principal Upanishad by S. Radhakrishnan page 447 and 448]
    [Sacred Books of the East, volume 1 ‘The Upanishads part I’ page 93]

    2[The Principal Upanishad by S. Radhakrishnan page 745]
    [Sacred Books of the East, volume 15, ‘The Upanishads part II’ page 263.]

    3[The Principal Upanishad by S. Radhakrishnan page 736 & 737]
    [Sacred Books of the East, volume 15, ‘The Upanishads part II’ page no 253]

    4[The Principal Upanishad by S. Radhakrishnan page 737]
    [Sacred Books of the East, volume 15, ‘The Upanishads part II’ page no 253]

    THE VEDAS
    Vedas are considered the most sacred of all the Hindu scriptures. There are four principal Vedas: Rigveda, Yajurveda, Samveda and Atharvaveda.

    1. Yajurveda
    The following verses from the Yajurveda echo a similar concept of God:

    1.

    “na tasya pratima asti
    “There is no image of Him…

  36. waz says

    Now tel me Shallab Khera n all other Hindu Brothers……. do u accept this?????????? these all from Hindu Scriptures only…… from u how many peoples following this…….

    • vibiesh says

      The vedas aslo says Tatwamasi God and Soul is one
      God is both with form and formless,the form is not God and God is not without Form,How?Do you believe God is complete or Absolute?If God and This world is different how can he be complete?So God should be Omnipresent to be complete or Absolute,and as God is present everywhere, everything can be considered as his image,but God is not that image and God is not without an image

  37. vibiesh says

    God is both with form and formless,the form is not God and God is not without Form,How?Do you believe God is complete or Absolute?If God and This world is different how can he be complete?So God should be Omnipresent to be complete or Absolute,and as God is present everywhere, everything can be considered as his image,but God is not that image and God is not without an image

  38. daily bread says

    We applaud the writer of this article,written so cleverly point by point. Although we are aware of the facts of Hinduism in this article, but the manner it is so smartly written leaves no room for Zakir Naik to manouver any further with his deceits and lies. We have learned so much from this page.God Bless Agniveer.

  39. Tyagi says

    Is Zakir Naik ne yahi ka namak khaya hai aur yahi ki buraai kar raha hai , ISLAM itna acchha hai to behenchod Pakistan kyun nahi gaya

  40. Indian says

    Hinduism is not a religion and if it existed it was over thousand years ago. What remains today is culture which is a mixture of other cultures and paganism in terms of Idol worship.

    No One knows what vedas are? as falshood gets destroyed by itself over period of time. Today in India there is less then 1% people who ever read Vedas, at most they know about folk tales of ramayan and Mahabharat which is known as Myth or mythology
    Compare it with muslims…each one of them have read it!!!! millions had memorized it cover to cover. You just cannot compare hindus and muslims in terms of religion or spiritualism.

    This is what you can come up with at the best????? It is full of lies and cock and bull stories..

    • says

      @Indian (who believes his parents are Arabs)

      ——Hinduism is not a religion——

      You are not an expert.

      —- and if it existed it was over thousand years ago.—–

      Muhammad existed 1400 Years ago and now he does not exist. Now?

      —– What remains today is culture which is a mixture of other cultures and paganism in terms of Idol worship.—–

      Yes, but it is yet to become a mixture of terrorists planting bombs and detonating suicide jackets in the name of religion of peace. And Idol worship is not any sin outside Islam. Billions of people do it.

      —–No One knows what vedas are?—-

      Most of Madarsa students even dont know about Newtonian Mechanics and Quantum Mechanics. How does that change the reality of Science?

      ——they know about folk tales of ramayan and Mahabharat which is known as Myth or mythology——

      And Arabs and their Non Arabs slaves know only tales of flying donkeys and talking stones. Even worse then mythology :)

      ——Compare it with muslims…each one of them have read it——

      I know at least 20 Muslims and none can read Arabic! But yes, they shout Kalma like anything to prove that they are more Islamic than Arabs :)

      —–millions had memorized it cover to cover.—–

      1. Parrots are also expert in memorizing. That does not require brain.
      2. BTW Billions do idol worship! Does that make idolatry right? If no, memorizing Quran by millions has no worth.

      —–You just cannot compare hindus and muslims in terms of religion or spiritualism.—–

      With this I agree! A cult sanctioning sex slavery, polygamy, loot, plunder, killing etc cant be compared with a peaceful one. Hope you have read Quran ;)

    • HAHAHA says

      Hi dude!

      It is better NOT to call yourself INDIAN since we all know who is a muslim. Patriots (like Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam, AR Rehman etc.) are NOT muslims as Ayatullah Khomeini compares patriotism with paganism. Hence a muslim can NOT be Indian.

      // Hinduism is not a religion and if it existed it was over thousand years ago. //

      Hinduism is NOT a religion it is Dharma meaning righteousness. Your evil Islam means submission. You disagree OR agree, you must submit. Such a forceful cult.

      // What remains today is culture which is a mixture of other cultures and paganism in terms of Idol worship. //

      You muslims corrupted Hinduism by adding evil dogma like Sati Pratha, caste system, rape, assault etc. to it. I must decide whom to worship, if I want to worship idols, why the hell your Allah has problems? Allah is mad

      // No One knows what vedas are? as falshood gets destroyed by itself over period of time. Today in India there is less then 1% people who ever read Vedas, at most they know about folk tales of ramayan and Mahabharat which is known as Myth or mythology //

      There are NOT even 1% Muslims who are peaceful. Peaceful people are NOT muslims. Ahmediyya are NOT muslims. Patriots like Abdul Hamid, APJ Abdul Kalam, Ashfaqulla Khan, Taslima Nasrin, Ayan Hirsi Ali, AR Rehman – all ended up having kuffr issued on them. By your own standards, PEACE OF ISLAM IS A MYTH AND MISCONCEPTION.

      // Compare it with muslims…each one of them have read it!!!! //

      40% muslims live below poverty line
      There are 245 million illiterate muslims worldwide
      Leaving Arab nations aside, muslim nations are almost backward.
      Arab too is surviving only due to oil status. Compared to non muslims, there are growing and prosperous.

      // millions had memorized it cover to cover. //

      Those who memorized Quran become terrorist. USA and Israel – the most champion nations have proved it. Al Qaeda + Taliban + LeT are parrots behind their Quran and muslims are mostly victims. Read Shia – Sunni wars if you want to.

      // You just…

      • HAHAHA says

        // You just cannot compare hindus and muslims in terms of religion or spiritualism. //

        Surely.
        Prof. Mark Twain says

        - Every Mohammedan is insane in religious matters
        - In terms of culture, only billionaire known is IND

        Arthur Schopenhauer says

        - Consider the Koran, for example; this wretched book was sufficient to start a world-religion, to satisfy the metaphysical need of countless millions for twelve hundred years, to become the basis of their morality and of a remarkable contempt for death, and also to inspire them to bloody wars and the most extensive conquests. In this book we find the saddest and poorest form of theism.
        - There is nothing of value compared to Upanishads. I find in them the truth which exists nowhere else. That was solace of my life and will be solace of my death.

        Prof. Will Durant says

        - Mohammedan conquest of IND was bloodiest story of world history as it is a discouraging tale. Its message is that civilization can be distorted by evil barbarians.
        - IND is motherland of our race, Sanskrit the mother of all languages, Hinduism the mother of all religions.

        We conclude that Islam is the worst and hence it is stupidity to compare evil cult Islam with any damn religion. We dont compare ghosts with humans.

        // This is what you can come up with at the best????? It is full of lies and cock and bull stories.//

        This is science of Quran
        1 Evolution
        1.1 Human created from clay
        1.2 Humans were created from a single being
        1.3 Creation of humans happened in an instant
        1.4 Fall from paradise down to the earth

        2 Astronomy
        2.1 The sun set into the murky water
        2.2 Geocentricism
        2.3 Shooting stars are missiles for devils
        2.4 How many planets in the solar system according to the Quran?
        2.4.1 Tafsir Ibn Abbas explains they are all flat planets
        2.5 The Moon is further away than the stars
        2.6 Night time cold is caused by the Moon
        2.7 The moon is “Noor”, which emits light too
        2.8 Moon split in two
        2.9 The universe consists of seven layers
        2.10 The Sun is not a…

        • HAHAHA says

          This is science of Quran
          1 Evolution
          1.1 Human created from clay
          1.2 Humans were created from a single being
          1.3 Creation of humans happened in an instant
          1.4 Fall from paradise down to the earth

          2 Astronomy
          2.1 The sun set into the murky water
          2.2 Geocentricism
          2.3 Shooting stars are missiles for devils
          2.4 How many planets in the solar system according to the Quran?
          2.4.1 Tafsir Ibn Abbas explains they are all flat planets
          2.5 The Moon is further away than the stars
          2.6 Night time cold is caused by the Moon
          2.7 The moon is “Noor”, which emits light too
          2.8 Moon split in two
          2.9 The universe consists of seven layers
          2.10 The Sun is not a star
          2.11 Where does the sun rise?
          2.12 Earth created in six days
          2.13 The earth existed before theuniverse
          2.14 The Universe is contracting
          2.15 The sun is a flat disk
          2.16 Earth has invisible pillars keeping up the sky
          2.17 Sirius as a single star
          2.18 The sky is concrete and impenetrable
          2.19 There are no black holes
          2.20 Allah is ignorant of the North and South Poles
          2.21 Thunder is an angel
          2.21.1 Tafsir Ibn Abbas
          2.22 What causes the movement of shadows?
          2.23 The sky can fall down, the earth can swallow down
          2.24 The Sky is made of rocky material

          3 Biology
          3.1 Sperm comes from between the spine/backbone and ribs
          3.2 Only Allah knows what gender the baby is
          3.3 Ovum contributed by female is not mentioned
          3.4 Asexual creatures are absent in the Quran
          3.5 The blood-clot stage in human reproduction
          3.6 Womb (stomach) has 3 layers
          3.6.1 Mistranslating Muslims
          3.7 Bones are formed before flesh
          3.8 Milk comes from between excrement and blood
          3.9 Do humans think with their heart or with their brain?
          3.10 Jinns created from fire

          4 Geology and Meteorology
          4.1 Earth has seven atmospheres
          4.2 Earth is still
          4.2.1 Tafsir Ibn Kathir
          4.3 Different seas have an impenetrable barrier between them
          4.4 The concept of a flat Earth
          4.4.1 Earth is level
          4.4.2 Earth is flat4.
          4.2.1 Tafsir al-Jalalayn
          4.4.3 Earth is like a couch
          4.4.3…

          • HAHAHA says

            4.4.4 Earth is like a carpet
            4.4.5 Earth shaped as “wide”
            4.4.6 Earth spread out
            4.4.6.1 Tafsir al-Jalalayn
            4.4.7 Earth is flatter without mountains
            4.5 Mountains prevent earthquakes
            4.6 Allah dropped down/cast mountains
            4.7 Breasts contract with height
            4.8 Earthquakes are for non-Muslims only
            4.9 Hurricanes/blizzards are punishments for Non-Muslims
            4.10 Pure rainwater
            4.11 Rain from the sky grows plants
            4.12 Allah didn’t know about Water Cycle
            4.13 Hail comes from mountains on the sky
            4.14 There’s an extreme east andwest

            5 Zoology
            5.1 Sinful animals
            5.2 Bees eat fruit
            5.3 Horses created for our transportation
            5.4 Allah makes the bird fly
            5.5 Quranic science on classification of creatures
            5.6 There are only eight types of cattle
            5.7 Allah is negligent about disabled creatures
            5.8 Allah left out poisonous sea creatures in his dietary advice
            5.9 Birds fighting elephants

            6 History
            6.1 Christians worship Mary
            6.2 Noah’s Ark for every species
            6.3 Pharaoh or Pharaohs
            6.4 Jews say Ezra is the son of Allah
            6.5 Destroyed cities are punishment from Allah
            6.6 Humans sleep for three-hundred years
            6.7 Humans living for a thousand years
            6.8 Muhammad sees an imaginary mosque?

            7 Sociology
            7.1 Allah was not aware of the Eskimos
            7.2 Muslims are protected in Mecca
            7.3 Non-Muslims are deaf, dumb, and blind
            7.4 All animals live in communities
            7.5 Islam is only for people who speak Arabic
            7.6 The heavens and earth rejected the “Trust”

            8 Supernatural Tales
            8.1 Humans supernaturally transform into apes and pigs
            8.2 Mythical werewolves will roam the Earth
            8.3 Delicious buffet magically appears from the sky
            8.4 A stick miraculously transforms into a serpent
            8.5 Solomon with his army of genies and birds
            8.6 Jonah performs repentance prayer inside a fish
            8.7 Humans and ants can communicate with each other
            8.8 Muhammad flies on a wingedunicorn called Buraq to heaven
            8.9 Body parts can rebel against the host
            8.10 The ocean split into half
            8.11 Solomon can control the wind
            8…

          • HAHAHA says

            8 Supernatural Tales
            8.1 Humans supernaturally transform into apes and pigs
            8.2 Mythical werewolves will roam the Earth
            8.3 Delicious buffet magically appears from the sky
            8.4 A stick miraculously transforms into a serpent
            8.5 Solomon with his army of genies and birds
            8.6 Jonah performs repentance prayer inside a fish
            8.7 Humans and ants can communicate with each other
            8.8 Muhammad flies on a wingedunicorn called Buraq to heaven
            8.9 Body parts can rebel against the host
            8.10 The ocean split into half
            8.11 Solomon can control the wind
            8.11.1 Ibn Kathir translation
            8.12 A dead man testified againsthis killer
            8.13 A monster speaks to humans
            8.14 Magical Hand in the Qur’an
            8.15 Mountains and birds can sing human song

            9 Others
            9.1 Mathematical error in hereditary laws
            9.2 People use the forehead to lie
            9.3 Space flight is impossible
            Atheists have refuted all your science and proved that Quran is worst book ever. NOT even grammatically correct.

  41. sandeep bansal says

    HA HA HA bro. pls. provide that ayats or book name in which such super science described . because without these mullas dont accept that such things are written in kuran

  42. gullu says

    Zakir naik is a like frog sitting in a well.That frog says that my well is bigger than any well in the world.

  43. Rajyabhishek Dey says

    hello agniveer, i am a huge fan of ur page… i hv got some muslim frnds who frequently pokes me by saying.. your “dharma”.. is wrong, our “dharma”.. is right… bt i always reply them that.. there is noyhing wrong with any “dharma”.. all ar right.. and leads to light. What differs is our belief.. bt still they harass me.. and they find it funny to find wrongs in vedas and hindus…
    so is there any end of this people??

    • Vedic crusader says

      Dear Friend, Please go through the website of agniveer and then you shall be able to defend yourself and your religion. If they ridicule Hinduism, the best religion in the world then ask them a few questions-
      1) Why did Prophet Muhammad married and had sex with a 9 year old girl?
      2) The hadiths say that one fine day , Prophet Muhammad was walking with his son when he saw his daughter-in-law and got an instant message from Allah (even faster than our smses!), and he ordered his son to leave him. and he married his daughter-in-law and slept with her. How far can your muslim friends justify it?
      3) A simple thing of logic-
      They say that there are 72 Virgins in the heaven which you shall get if you do Jihad against kafirs, kill them or convert them….etc etc….. And this is the sole reason that many Islamic youths kill people, plant bombs and kill themselves like dumbass.
      My question to them is- IF THERE ARE ONLY 72 VIRGINS IN HEAVEN , THE 1ST MUSLIM TO GO TO HEAVEN HAD SLEPT WITH THEM RENDERING ALL OF THEM NON-VIRGINS.
      So , what is now left for the second muslim who goes to heaven? All 72 non-virgins.
      So, now you wont find any virgins in heaven. You can only find them in this world. So NO NEED TO DO JIHAD. So STOP killing people acting like a bullshit on a false belief and live in peace in this world only …
      COZ IN THIS WORLD ONLY YOU CAN GET NOT 72 NOT 72000000 VIRGINS BUT EVEN MORE. ISNT IT BETTER THAN THEIR SO CALLED HEAVEN?

      • manoj kumar says

        not only that hadith says if one muslim women want to go outside she has to were burka if no burka is there and she is outside then she has to make all the male person as her sons and she has to breast feed her male companion and whoever on the road she has to breast feed even though milk is not produced from her breast so that they cannot see her like sexually inclined to wards that lady see in you tube a prominent prof & head of hadith, al-azhar university cairo , says this

  44. Carl says

    > Thus, scholars conclude that episodes like Sita’s Agni Pariksha and entire Uttar Ramayan that contains stories like Sita’s exile and Shambook’s death are later era figments of imagination having nothing to do with original Ramayan. We shall review this in a separate research

    I was not able to find this research article on the website. I look forward to it in future!

  45. Krishnarao says

    What I find interesting is when Hindus debate with muslims they actually use real evidence and proof of what muslims actually believe from their book. This is not true with muslims when they try to point fun of Hindus. They can’t even do a fair debate. Instead of using foreign non-Hindu scholars to debate Hindium, why don’t they used reputable Hindus scholars like Arya Samaj Scholars, not some fake guy that got kicked out of the Arya Samaj. It is time that muslims do a fair debate instead of fake one. And debate things on what Hindus actually believe instead of try and tell Hindus what they believe.

  46. Vedic crusader says

    Dear Friend, Please go through the website of agniveer and then you shall be able to defend yourself and your religion. If they ridicule Hinduism, the best religion in the world then ask them a few questions-
    1) Why did Prophet Muhammad married and had sex with a 9 year old girl?
    2) The hadiths say that one fine day , Prophet Muhammad was walking with his son when he saw his daughter-in-law and got an instant message from Allah (even faster than our smses!), and he ordered his son to leave him. and he married his daughter-in-law and slept with her. How far can your muslim friends justify it?
    3) A simple thing of logic-
    They say that there are 72 Virgins in the heaven which you shall get if you do Jihad against kafirs, kill them or convert them….etc etc….. And this is the sole reason that many Islamic youths kill people, plant bombs and kill themselves like dumbass.
    My question to them is- IF THERE ARE ONLY 72 VIRGINS IN HEAVEN , THE 1ST MUSLIM TO GO TO HEAVEN HAD SLEPT WITH THEM RENDERING ALL OF THEM NON-VIRGINS.
    So , what is now left for the second muslim who goes to heaven? All 72 non-virgins.
    So, now you wont find any virgins in heaven. You can only find them in this world. So NO NEED TO DO JIHAD. So STOP killing people acting like a bullshit on a false belief and live in peace in this world only …
    COZ IN THIS WORLD ONLY YOU CAN GET NOT 72 NOT 72000000 VIRGINS BUT EVEN MORE. ISNT IT BETTER THAN THEIR SO CALLED HEAVEN?

    WHAT DO YOU SAY AGNIVEER? HINDUISM IS THE BEST.

  47. tarun varma says

    JAi shree ram
    good work
    Zakir Naik.. is a big fool.. he knw if the muslim will come to knw the truth of islam they will leave it like before three time it happen………fact is islam will WANISH FROM earth very soon……so naik is paid from kSA to sprd islam any how…………….
    zakir has nothing to speak on islam………………..so he speak on other religions… to divert the mind of muslims bcs now 1 % muslims are educated……….isalm dont want their people to more educated or knw about other world that is why they force to go madarsa…1005 musilm in world r fools to follow this terror religion……..they r help less now they cant come out from this till death……….

  48. manoj kumar says

    not only that hadith says if one muslim women want to go outside she has to were burka if no burka is there and she is outside then she has to make all the male person as her sons and she has to breast feed her male companion and whoever on the road she has to breast feed even though milk is not produced from her breast so that they cannot see her like sexually inclined to wards that lady see in you tube a prominent prof & head of hadith, al-azhar university cairo , says this

  49. Sachin says

    I have watched several time zakir naik but i m not satisfied with his words.
    he read so many books of different religion but he don’t no the actual meaning,

    he is explaining the things in his style, in this word every human having different way to understand things. the same thing is with zakir naik he reads several things but he don’t no the mean he is explaining things in his style.

    Several people in this word trying to prof Islam is best religion they like this kind of man and his statements, actually he is entertaining this kind of people or those they don’t have the knowledge of there own religion.

    he saying Islam is based on science he is trying to prove this, but his examples are rubbish.
    in one concert a guy asked him why Islam is saying to eat animals accept poke, he is saying
    scientifically we have a Omnivorous tooth set thats why eat animals. but i don’t understand science never says eat animal accept poke. and one more thing in this planet every species having skull like human or ape having Omnivorous tooth set how many species are eating or hunting other animals they are animal they don’t have any religion so why most of the apes species are pure veg
    .
    So please update your knowledge data base clear things your self don’t faith this kind of person this is my appeal to every person he is Hind Muslim any religion.

    I think he is a entertainer.

    God is one humanity is the first religion in this word.Live with peace give respect to all religions.

    Thank You.

  50. daily bread says

    Vedas are hardly read as now Hindus read Bhagvad Gita, considered essence of the Vedas. I and many others understand it fully from cover to cover. But now thanks to Arya Samaj, we get to understand Vedas. Sanathana Dharma, the correct name of Hinduism is an eternal religion. Zakir Naik is a liar. His lies has been prooven by Agniveer, which I believe is the internet hand of Arya Samaj. Mr Indian Muslim, read the rebuttals of Agniveer before posting. There is no need to show off your stupidity here

  51. jai shankar says

    ISLAM KI SACCHAI- YE JO ALLAH HAI YE EK MITHAK,EK FALSE CONCEPT HAI.KYO?1)Muhammad ke siva kisi ko nahi pata.2) abhi tak kisi ko nahi mila.3) siva muslims bane kisi ko nahi dikhega,bhale hi uske banaye chand,suraj bina muslim huye dikte rahenge par wo nahi dikhega.4) bina hajj kiye muslims ko bhi nahi dekhega. Kaba me uski bahot jaan hai. kaba nahi hogi to allah bhi nahi,hoga socho kyo? 5)ALLAH KABA SE KYU JUDA HAI.KAHTA DO KHUD KO DUNIYA KA HAI AUR KABA ME ITNA RAS KYO LE RAHA HAI? 6) ALLAH MALE HAI,FEMALE HAI YA DONO HAI.7)YE ALLAH RAHTA KAHA HAI,JO BOLTA HAI,DARATA HAI,DUNIYA BANATA HAI TO USKA THIKANA KAHA HAI.8)ALLAH NE DUNIYA BANAI TO KRAMO SE KYO KYO BANAI? SAB EK SAATH HI BANATA.HO JA TO HO JA AISE DUNIYA BANATA TO PAHLE DHARTI,CHAND SURAJ PHIR SAAT AKASH AISE EK KE BAAD KE BANANE KA KARAN KYA HAI? 9) ALLAH NE MUHAMMAD KO KAHA RAKHA HAI? Jannat me ya jahnnam main. Agar muhammad jannat me hai to kya kar raha hai? Kya waha par bhi quran likh raha hai?10) ALLAH KOUN SE AASMAN ME CHIPA HAI,SAATVE AASMAN ME CHIPA HAI TO YE CHOTI SI DHARTI PAR USKI RUCHI KYO HAI?AUR BHI DHARTIYA HONGI ,SOCHO EK AASMAN ME HI ARABO-KHARBO TARE HAI.MILKY WAYS HAI .HAMRI JAISI DHARTIYA BHI KARODO HAI.AB SAAT AASMAN KA ANDAJA LAGAO AUR BATAO KI YE ALLAH HAMARI DHARTI PAR HI KYO ATKA HAI?11) ALLAH AGAR ITNA BUT SE NAFARAT KARTA TO DIL KO BHI VAISE BANATA.KHUD MUHAMMAD KE SHARIR BUT KA SAHARA NA LETA? Aadmi ko bina aakar ka banata. Are na rahta bans na bajti bansuri.12)ALLAH KYA BEWAKUF HAI? Jo bahar but na bane is ki itani sakt saja de raha hai?Aur jo man me but bana raha hai uska kya kar raha hai? Chota baccha apni ma ko dekhta hai to uske man me uska but ban jata hai .chahe kitna hi allah kahe but na banao par ye ma ka but,man me banta hi hai.YAHI TO RAJ HAI ALLAH NE SABSE BADI GALTI BAHAR NAHI BHITAR KI HAI.BHITAR KE BUTO KI WO BAAT BHI NAHI KARTA.USKA KAHNA HAI SIRF BAHAR BUT MAT BANAO ANDAR TUM KUCH BHI BANA SAKTE HO.KOI BHI MAI KA LAL BHITAR KE BUT BINA EK PAL BHI JI NAHI SAKTA.ARE MAN KISKO KAHTE HAI JO BUT DIKHAYE USKO HI NA? Nahi to samaj me kaise aayega ki koun kya hai,kaisa hai?ALLAH KI SABSE BADI GALTI HAI YE JISKO US NE NAJAR ANDAJ KIYA PAR HINDU BAHOT AAGE JA CHUKE HAI.ALLAH KI GALTI KO JAAN GAYE HAI.

  52. jai shankar says

    CHALLENGES OF DR.ZAKIR NAIK-ISLAM KI SACCHAI 2- 1)ALLAH JO HAI USKO KOI BHI DEKH NAHI SAKTA,JO DIKHAI NA DE SIRF US PAR BELIEF KARE YE ISLAM HAI.TO PHIR JO JO DIKHAI NA DE UNKO BHI MANO EX.DETA HU TAKI AASANI SE SAMAJ ME AAYE- ULLAH,JULLAH,KULLAH YE BHI DIKHAI NAHI DETE TO KYA INKO BHI MANANA PADEGA.2) ALLAH AKELA HAI USKA KOI SANGI-SATHI NAHI HAI.JAB ALLAH AKELA HOTA TO DUNIYA KE BAHAR HAI YA DUNIYA KE ANDAR?BAHAR HAI TO DUNIYA SE USKA KYA SANBAND,KYA LENADENA HAI?DUNIYA KYO BANAI?ANDAR HAI TO AKELA KAISE HOGA? YE AKELA HAI ,ISKO KAISE PATA CHALA KOI DUSRE ALLAH KO DEKH KE, KI KOI INSAN KO DEKH KE?WO APNE KO AKELA KIS KO SAMNE RAKH KAR TOUL RAHA HAI?AGAR WO INSAN SE TOUL RAHA HAI TO BILKUL HI CHOTA HO GAYA AUR KISI AUR BADE ALLAH SE TOUL RAHA HAI TO AKELA NA RAHA.3)ALLAH DUNIYA BANATE WAQT BAHOT SHAKTIWAN THA SIRF US NE HO JA KAHA AUR HO GAYI,TO PHIR YE QURAN KO SATYA KITAB HAI AISA BAR BAR KYO KAH RAHA HAI EK BAR HI KAHTA KI YE SATYA HO JA AUR HO GAYI HOTI.YE AADMI KE SAMNE BUJDIL KYO HO RAHA HAI?4) YE ALLAH MIRACLE KARTA HOTA TO PAHLE PROFET KE LIYE MIRACLE KARE ,LAKDI SE SAAP,PANI KO BEECH ME SE TODA,UPAR SE SHOLE BARSAYE.MURDE KO ZINDA KIYA.PAR LAST PROFET KE LIYE KOI MIRACLE NAHI KIYE,KYO USKI TAQAT KHATM HO GAYI KYA?

  53. jai shankar says

    ISLAM KI SACCHAI 3-KOI BHI HINDU DR.ZAKIR NAIK KO YE SAWAL KARE 1) ALLAH NE SABKO BANAYA,IS ME INSSAN KO BHI BANAYA TO YE ALLAH AADMI KO KYA SAMAJTA HAI? “BODY” “MIND” YA “SOUL” AADMI KI BODY 5 WAYS SE KNOWLEDGE LETI HAI ,AANKH,KAAN,NAAK,ZIB,CHAMDI AUR BRAIN JO HAI WO KNOWLEDGE COLLECT KARTA HAI,MEMORY STORE KARTA HAI.MIND JO HAI WO CHINTAN, SOCH,MANAN IS KA KAM KARTA HAI AUR JO IN SABKO MAI MAI KARKE JODTA HAI USE SELF YA EGO KAHTE HAI .TO ALLAH AADMI KE IN SAB TATVA SE JUDA HAI.AB AADMI IN ME SE KIS KE SAATH JUDA HAI.JAB AADMI KO PUCHA JAYEGA TUM KOUN HO TO WO YAH NAHI KAHTA KI MAI AANKH,KAAN,NAAK,ZIB,CHAMDI HU.WO KAHATA HAI MAI INSAN HU.TO YE SIDDHA HUA KI WO BODY NAHI HAI,NA HI US KE 5 GYAN-INDRIYA.HOTA TO KHUD KO AANKH,KAAN,NAAK SAMJTA PAR WO MERI AANKH,MERE KAAN AISE KAHTA HAI IS SE SIDDHA HUA KI WO US SE ALAG HAI.TO AADMI KHUD KO TO EK MAN MANTA HAI SELF MANTA HAI AUR ALLAH AADMI KO BODY MANTA HAI TO YE ALLAH MIND KE BAARE ME CHARCHA KYO NAHI KAR RAHA?JO KI KHUD AADMI APNE KO MIND HI SAMAJTA HAI.QURAN ME MIND CONTROL KE BAARE ME AUR USKI VRUTTI KE BAARE ME KYO BAAT NAHI KARTA?AADMI JO MAN CHAHE WOHI KARTA HAI TO YE MAN KO SHANT AUR ZERO BANANE KA UPAY KYO NAHI BATAYA? YE ALLAH MAN KI SHANT AWASTA KO JANTA HAI YA MAN KI ASHANT AWASTA KO JANTA HAI?BHARE MAN KO JANTA HAI KI KHALI MAN KO JANTA HAI? VIKALP SAHIT JANTA HAI KI NIRVIKALP SAHIT JANTA HAI? PRDGYA SAHIT JANTA HAI KI PRDYA RAHIT JANTA HAI?AGAR WO MAN KE BHITAR KO JANTA HAI TO MAN KE BHITAR HI GYAN KYO NAHI DE RAHA HAI? JAB MUHAMMAD KA JANM BHI NAHI HUA THA TAB,VASISTA,ASTAVAKRA,VYAS,KRISHNA ,PATANJALI,MAHAVEER,GUTAM BUDDHA,AADI SHANKARACHARYA.IN SAB NE MAN KO AVIDHYA ARTHAT AAGYAN KAHA HAI.TO YE MAN HI ZUTH HAI TO YE ALLAH KISKO GYAN DE RAHA HAI?????AASLI SATYA SE ALLAH WAKIF HAI TO MAN KI GAHARAI KI AUR MAN KI LAYERS KI BAATE KYO NAHI KAR RAHA? JAB TAK BHITAR KA DRASTA HAI TAB TAK HI BAHAR KA JAGAT DRUSHYA HAI .DRASTA NAHI HOGA TO JAGAT BHI NAHI HOGA.ISLIYE PAHLE DRASTA HAI PHIR DRUSHYA HAI,FIR ALLAH IS DRASTA KI BAAT CHOD KE BAHAR KE JAGAT KI BAATE HI KYO BATA RAHA HAI?DRASTA KI BAAT KYO NAHI KAR RAHA KI WO KYA HAI AUR KAISA HAI? DR.ZAKIR NAIK KO YE SAWAL KARO AUR DEKHO USKI HALAT KAISE HOTI HAI.JIS ALLAH KO MAN KE BARE ME KOI BHI GYAN NAHI HAI ,AUR HINDU NE JAHA MAN PAR SABSE JYADA KHOJ KI ,WORLD KA PAHLA MANAS SHASTRA PAIDA KIYA JISE HUM YOGSHASTRA KAHTE HAI WAHA PAR YE MAN KE GULAM,MAN SE PIDIT AUR SABSE ASHANT LOG JAGAT ME MUSALMAN HI HAI.JISNE BHI MAN JANA WO SHANT HO GAYA .KYOKI MAN KA SHODHAN KARNA HI SATYA KI KHOJ KARNA HAI.JISNE MAN KA SHODHAN KIYA AADHA MUKTA TO TABHI HUA AISE AADI SHANKARACHARYA VIVEK -CHUDAMANI ME KAHTE HAI .”ARYA DHARM ME JO HAI WO BAKI DHARM ME NAHI HAI,AUR BAKI DHARM ME JO HAI WO ARYA DHARM HAI” TO SOCHE-VICHAR KARE HINDU JAISA SAHISNU,SABSE PURANA BHI AUR NAYE KO SWIKAR KARNEWALA BHI.SABKO AAPNA SWATATRA AASTITVA DENEWALA.SATYA KI KHOJ SIKHANEWALA.PEACE-LOVE-PURE, VISHVA KO EK KUTUMB SAMJANEWALA,PREM,KARUNA,DAYA,MAITRI AUR BANDHUTA SIKHANEWALA DHARM HAI.

  54. jai shankar says

    CHALLENG TO DR.ZAKIR NAIK 2- koi bhi hindu dr.zakir naik se ye sawal kare -ALLAH EK HAI YA ANEK? EK HAI TO ANEK KO KYO BANAYA? ANEK HAI TO BAKI KE ALLAH KAHA HAI? ALLAH EK HAI TO DUNIYA KIS SE JUDI HAI? ALLAH SE JUDI HAI TO WO EK NA RAHA AUR NAHI JUDI HAI TO BINA ALLAH SE KAISE BANI? ALLAH EK HAI TO DO CHIZE KYO BANAI?MALE-FEMALE,ZANNAT -JAHANNAM,JANAM-MRUTU,AKASH-ZAMIN,PAAP-PUNYA,ANDHERA-UZIYARA,DIN-RAAT,AWWAL-AAKHIR.ALLAH AKELA HAI TO SABKI ALAG-ALAG KHABAR RAKTA HAI?KI EKSAATH KABAR RAKTA HAI? ALAG-ALAG KHABR RAKHTA HAI TO KAISE AKELA HUA.KYOKI ZAB MUZE GARMI LAGTI HAI TAB MAI THAND LAG RAHI HAI AISA KYO NAHI KAHTA? EK HI KABAR RAKTA HAI TO ALAG-ALAG LOG EK HI KAAM KAR RAHE HAI AISA MANANA PADEGA HATYA KARNA AUR HAAJ KARNA EK HO JAYEGA.AALAH EK MAN KA HAI KI ANEK MAN KA? EK MAN KA HUA TO ANEK MAN KE AADMI KO KAISE BANAYA? ANEK MAN KA HAI TO EK ALLAH ME ANEK MAN KAISE HONGE?AADMI MERE ANDAR SE HAZAR MAN BOL RAHE HAI AISA KYO NAHI KAHTA?ALLAH SABKA HAI TO EK KA KAISE HOGA?ALLAH SABKA NAHI HAI TO ANEK KA KAISE HOGA?ALLAH KA KOI AAKAR HAI KI NAHI? AAKAR,BUT NAHI HAI TO BOLTA KAISE HAI?YE BUT JAISE AADMI KO APNI HI SHKAL ME KYO BANAYA?BUT KE JAISI DUNIYA KYO BANAI? AAKAR HAI TO DHIKHAI KYO NAHI DETA?

    • rsdfgg says

      @shankar, pehle yeh bata ki tu kis ishwar mein vishwas rakhta hai? kiya tera ishwar dikhai deta hai?

      kiya shankar tera ishwar hai? kiya vedon ka ishwar kuch create kar sakta hai?

      pehle to yeh hi sidh karde ki ved 4 rishiyon ko mile the jo ki hum mein se kis ne nahi dekhe to kiya tu undekhe par vishwas karta hai?

  55. jai shankar says

    I piss on the Kaaba. I don’t worship it. I WORSHIP ALLAH ALONE. I piss on the Quran. I don’t worship it. I WORSHIP ALLAH ALONE. I piss on the prophet Muhammad (may shit be upon his head). I don’t worship him. I
    WORSHIP ALLAH ALONE. I piss towards Mecca. I don’t worship it. I WORSHIP ALLAH ALONE. Turn away from shirk before its too late. SMASH your idols to remove idolatry. Come back
    to worshiping ALLAH ALONE. Only then the Islamic renaissance will be unleashed. Allah
    will again bless the Islamic world for worshiping ALLAH ALONE. Some Mohammedan idolaters and Quran idolaters say ‘if you worship Allah you will
    RESPECT HIS message book and HIS messenger’. That is exactly what a Hindu will say ‘if
    you worship god you will RESPECT HIS creations, HIS creatures, HIS idols’. Respect is just a
    cover for idolatry. Only disrespect can remove idolatry. Allah knows whats in your heart
    you Mohammedan idolaters. I once asked in a forum, “Is Allah all powerful? CAN he send
    more prophets?” Note: I asked ‘CAN he’ not ‘WILL he’ but the vote was 9 to 0 against Allah. No Mohammedan idolater believes in Allah’s power to send more prophets. Allah is
    just a straw god in whose name Mohammad is worshiped. Mohamed is dead, Allah isn’t
    dead is he?

    • rsdfgg says

      @pagal-shankar, tu apne aap ko vedanti kehta hai aur ZN se debate karne ki baat karta hai aur apna standard dekh?????

      vedanti tu keh raha hai ki har kan mein ishwar hai aur dppsra vedanti raj.hyd keh raha hai ki har kan mein nahi hai???? tum logon ka khud koi common belief nahi hai, negative propation kar te ho?? hm to islam phelatein hain quran phelate hain.

      quran kitna high hai yeh batateinhain…positive propation karte hain… par tum negative ??

      kabhi socha hai kiyun negative kiyun ho kiyunki tumhare paas kuch ho hi nahi.. tum khud ved roz parhte nahi dusron se kiya kahoge..

      BTW yeh batao ki vedon k 4 risiyon par vishwas karte ho? kiya tumne dekha hai? kiya shankar ko dekha hai ki jai jai kar rahe ho?

      tum islam virodh mein jal jal kar mar jaoge aur marne k baad pata lagega ki asliyat kiya hai.. agar dil se du akaro Allah se ki aye Allah mujhe sidha rasta dikha to sidha rasta zaroor dikhega..

  56. True Muslim says

    Assalam Alikum(May ALLAH’S Peace And Blessing Be Upon You)

    Jai Shankar firstly i would just pray may ALLAH (subahana wa tala) guide you to the right way…
    Secondly don’t talk about a religion which you don’t have knowledge of.. firstly study Islam thoroughly and QURAN PAK than come we can have a nice debate…

    You people worship the idols as your god which can not take care of themselves how can they take care of the universe….
    ALLAH is one and only for sure…. If there would have been more than one god than for sure there would have been chaos in the world but ALLHMDULILAh the world is smooth and good proccess.. there is not a day when sun rise in night and moon on day…

    • Raghav says

      Bro True muslim,

      u said “You people worship the idols as your god which can not take care of themselves how can they take care of the universe”
      i ask u a question…when mecca flooded allah is not the one protect that…american saved mecca…go n search the video on youtube. what guarantee you give there is no bomb will exlpode on mecca?? can you?? god can be anyware…he is supream powerfull, we dont worship as you called idols…we belive he is in it as you belive quran is word of god..

      i will give a small statics
      there is 2 muslims for each buddist,
      there is more than 160 muslims for each jew,
      every 5th human being on this earth a muslim. so now tell me how many breakthroug inventions done by muslims from past 1400 yrs?? ans is ZERO…you muslims spend whole life to study a book but 95% dont get the correct message of it..
      cheers

  57. True Muslim says

    Assalam Alikum

    Brother hahaha……. i don’t know from where have you got this wrong information…… i will be thankfull if you give the reference too that from where you got it than i will talk on it….

  58. True Muslim says

    ASSALAM ALAIKUM

    Vedic crusader…………. I have no idea which book says all these things…… It is neither in the QURAN PAK nor in any Hadith……..Before any good reference do not put such wrong accusation..

    • rsdfgg says

      assalam brother this vedanto does not know english he was only copy pasting that post otherwise he post in Hindi.

      he is just hate monger vedanti, cant propagate ved because either he cant read and understand it or he doesn’t consider it worthy to propagate so he simply spread hatred against Islam.

      we have quran and hayat-e-tayyiba to propagate.

    • raj.hyd says

      nat kuran “pak” ?behad gandi pustak hai kuran! jo manushyo me bhed bhav failati hai islami jehad sikhlati hai. jiske karan kai karod manushyo ki hatya hui ! aj bhi kai lakh manushy v muslimo ki bhi hatya islami atankvadi jehadi ban kar hatya kar chuke hai !

  59. True Muslim says

    ASSALAM ALAIKUM

    brother agniveer please stop misguiding the people and if you have the intention that the Muslims will change their religion then you are wrong….. Stop accusing brother Zakir Naik…….He is MASHALLAH spreading Islam so quickly that’s why the other religions are worried and accusing him wrongly…

    • rsdfgg says

      @true muslim, it is also a parameter to check, if aryasamajis are so much worried about zakir naik it means he is successful in his aim…he is going on right way..because palaces of idolaters are shaking.

  60. True Muslim says

    Yes you absolutely correct rsdfgg…… he is becoming really successful in his work so now the hidus are worried that their religion will vanish so they have started misguiding people by simple a website

  61. jai shankar says

    @rsdfgg,paglonke seertaj allah ne duniya banayi ye uske smruti se ki bina smruti se??? kyo ki bina memory ke aadmi kuch samaj nahi pata,bina memory ke aadmi kuch bhi bana nahi sakta ye siddha hota hai to allah ki smrti kya hai??? Allah to akela hai phir use smriti bhi hai agar manana hai to phir kaan,naak,haat,pair bhi mano???ha.ha.ha…bina smruti ke allah ne duniya kaise banai??? pahale ki duniya se to phir wo kaha hai???kya us me bhi muhammad hai?? Kya bhagwan bhi hai??hindu bhi hai???ha.ha.ha…allah ne duniya banai to ek hi baar kyo nahi banai,6 din ka samay kyo lagaya ??? aadmi ko samne rakh kar duniya banai ki khud ko samne rakh kar duniya banai??? Agni,vayu,prithvi,jal,akash ye allah ke haath me hai to is se bana aadmi kyo nahi??? Jab ji chahe bacche janmata hai aur ji chahe marta hai to allah uncontrol kyo ho gaya?? ye allah simit hai ya asimit hai?? Simit hai to kitna aur asimit hai to kitna??ha.ha..ha..

    • rsdfgg says

      @pagal-shankar, tu isliye answer nahi de raha kiyunki tu de hi nahi sakta.

      is ka answer dene mein dar gayakiya? pol khulne ka darr hai kiya ki tu bhi bina dekhai cheezon ko manta hai??? teri asani k liye phir likh deta hun …hahahaha

      //vedon k ishwar ko tune dekha hai kiya? agar nahi dekha aur manta hai to phir tu bhi to andvishwasi hua na??

      kiya tune 4 rishiyon ko dekha hai jinko ved diye gaye the? agar nahi aur tu manta hai to tu andhvishwasi hua na?

      yeh shankar kon hai jiski tu jaijaikar kar raha hai? kiya tune dhekha hai shankar ko? agar han to kahan dekha hai? moorti mein?
      tu samajh bhi pa raha hai ki mein kiya pooch raha hun?//

      “hi” aur “bhi” ka faisla ho gaya kiya?

      //tu isliye answer nahi de raha kiyunki tu de nahi sakta//

      waise tujhe maine yeh to samjha diya ki capital nahi likhna chahiyye.

      eik vedanti jo na ved parh sakta hai aur na uske satya hone par hi vishwas karta hai, agar karta to use phailata uski shiksha batata?? negative vedanti.. kamse kam yeh hi bata deta ki “ved kitne hain” ???? 4????

      answer de sakta hai kiya??

  62. jai shankar says

    @rsdfgg,pagalonme awwal,tu pahale apne chitt ko saf kar,shudh kar sab vishwas se mukt ho ja swikar kar ki allah ek mithak hai,false concept hai,muhammad ki dimagi soch hai.fir tuze mai ved ka gyan dunga….ha.ha.ha..bina allah ka vichar liye ved ka gyan nahi mil sakta tu quran chod .ved ka eshwar tabhi samaj me aata hai, jab man sahit sari indriya samapt hoti hai.sirf shudh aatma hi ved ke eshwar ko dekh sakti hai. “‘yato vache nirvtrantre mansa sah aanandam brameti vidvan na bhibheti kadachan”‘ tu ye dushit man se ved ke eshwar ko nahi jaan sakta.allah khud dushit raha hoga isliye to us ne gande man ko saaf karne ki baat hi nahi ki??ha.ha.ha….sirf sharir dhone se koi shudh hota to sabun bananewale sabse bade kahlate???ha.ha.ha….

  63. True Muslim says

    ASSALAM ALAIKUM

    Mr jai shankar u r really having wrong concept…….. Just think how can your gods protect u when they can not protect themselves…….ok tell me where r your gods now…. Are they alive….no if they were god how could they die….If they r dead then who is ruling the world?? Ofcourse Almighty ALLAH ONE AND ONLY

  64. raj.hyd says

    true muslim ji .ara faith freedomdot com aur ali seena dot com me bhi apne vichar rakh diya kijiye vahan par islam ki dhajjiyan udayi ja rahi hai ! vaha apko maloom ho jayega ki aap kitne sachhe muslim hai ?

    • True Muslim says

      ASSALAM ALAIKUM

      Jin sites ka aap bta rehay hai main un bar bhi ghor karon gi……Aur aik baat clear kardon dhajjiyan ISLAM ki nhi hinduism ki udyai ja rahi hai kyun k roz aik hindu muslim tau zaroor hota hai…

      • raj.hyd says

        sambhav hai ki esa ho raha ho , sath me muslim bhi gair muslim v isai adi ban rahe hai dekhiye muslim to isai!yah batlaiye ki islam me “maulik “achhai kya hai ? dusro ki jhuthan jarur hai ?

  65. jai shankar says

    @TRUE MUSLIM,wa bhai kya khub baat kahi?? Ye kaise sabit hoga ki allah zinda bhi ya murda bhi hai? Agar tum usko zinda kahte ho to kaha jivan bita raha,jee kaha raha hai???sanse kaha le raha hai??ab jab jinda hai to uska food kya hai???wo jivan kis stan me bita raha hai,duniya ke andar ya duniya ke bahar?? ha.ha.ha….wo zinda hai to marta kyo nahi?? Kyo ki zinda hota hai use marna bhi padega,nahi zinda kyo hua??ha.ha.ha.. ab tum kahoge ki wo na zinda hai na mara hai amar hai to amar allah zinda aur murda ko kaise pahachanega??kyo ki jo zinda hoga wahi to murda hona kya hai ye janega aur jo murda hoga wo hi zinda hona kya hai isko janega??to ye zinda aur murda amar allah ko bina exprience ke kaise pata chalega??kya wo bhi kabhi mara hai????ha .ha.ha…ALLAH EK MITHAK HAI,EK FALSE CONCEPT HAI..ye siddha hua.

    • True Muslim says

      First of all jaisay aap ney khud kaha na he ALLAH zinda hai aur na he wo kabhi maray ga aur na he wo khana khata hai aur na he wo araan karta hai kyun k wo ALLAH hai aur saray jahan ka MALIK hai……… Aap ya khe rahay hai k wo kahan hai tou wo har jaga maojood hai…. agar aap duniya ko ghor se daikhan tau aap ko pta chaley k ALLAH he saray jahanon ka malik hai

  66. raj.hyd says

    true muslim ji ,agar vah har jagah majud hai to kuran ki koi ayat sabut me batlaiye ? kuran to yah jarur kahati hai ki kurani allah satve asmanme jis singhasan ko 8 “simit farishte ”uthye huye hai usi “simit” singhasan ko simit allah virajnamhai! tabhi muahmmad ji ne burraq janwar ke madhyam se meraz bhi ki thi ? agar kurani allah har jagah maujud hote to kurani ayate farishte kyo late muhammad ji ke sine[ya dimag ] me kurani allah de de te ?dekhe kuran 38 /75 jisme kurani allah apne “dono hatho se ” adam ko banane ka dava karte hai ? dekhe kuran 39/67 jisme kurani allah apne “dayen hath ” me asman ko lapetne ka dava karte hai dekhe kuran 5/64 jisme kurani allah apne “dono hath ” khule hone ka dava karte hai ?sansar me to yahi dekhne me ata hai ki yah “hath” ki rachna [nirman ] kisi mata ji ke “garbhashay ” me hota hai kuran me to kisi mata ji ka jikar nahi hai shayad kisi hadees me iska jikar muahammd ji ne kiya ho kya ap batlayengi ?

    • True Muslim says

      ASSALAM ALIKUM

      Phelay tay main aap ko bta don k jo aap ney reference dey haan wo tau bilkul galat haan aur Quran Pak mai kahin ye nhi likha hai jo aap keh rahey hai….Agar aap ko yakeen hai tau wo link bhi saath bta den jahan ye sab likha hai…

      • raj.hyd says

        true muslim ji ,hamne sath me saboot pesh to kiye hai unko aap kuran ki ayato se mila lijiye! fir yah kaise galat yah bhi batla dijiye !

        • True Muslim says

          Aap mujhay wo site ya reference daikhaien warna main ney Quran Pak main check kia hai aisa kuch nhi likha…

          • raj.hyd says

            kya kuran anek tarah ki hai ? fir yah kyo kahate hai ki hamne nayi kuran se milaya to vaha yah nahi mili ? intarnet me kuran dekh ljiuye ya kisi kuran ki kitab me dekh lijiye ! apko avshy jo hamne likha hai sabut diya hai,vah pakka milega !

  67. jai shankar says

    @TRUE MUSLIM,maine ye siddha kiya ki allah false concept hai,aur aap kah rahe ki wo allah hai??? To kya main ye phir se siddha karu aapke hawale se ki wo false concept hai.dekho tum ne kaha ki har jagah mouzud hai.??? Har jagah agar wo mouzud hai to ye allah kaaba kyo bula raha hai sabko??are agar wo har jagah hai to kya kafir ke ghar me bhi hoga?? To idols me kyo nahi hai???kya ye idols uski duniya ke bahar hai?? Tum ko galat malumat hai allah ke baare me allah to satve aasman par baitha hai.usne duniya banai hai?? (aisa main nahi janta) par wo duniya me nahi hai.nahi to apne se alag duniya kyo banata???wo sabke dil me rahta aur sabko ek hi samjta par ye to pakshpat kar raha hai.jo usko nahi man rahe unko dozakh ki aag me zinda jalane ki dhamki de raha hai.wo itna hatti aur duragrahi hai ki,usko bina koi mane to uski hatya tak karne ki salah deta hai.kyo aadmi par nahi chodta ki wo usko maane ki na maane?? Unko agar allah me kuch vishesh dikhta to wo khudbkhud unke taraf khichte.wo forcefully kyo manvane ki baate kar raha hai???is se ye siddha hota hai ki allah ek false mind concept hai.

    • anti-agniveer says

      @pagal-shankar, tere samajh mein nahi ayega Allah ka concept par tu ishvar mein aur vedon k rishiyon mein aur SHANKA mein to andhvishwas karta hai na? to uska answer de ki tu andhvishwas karta hai ya aryasamajiyon ki tarah jhut bol de ki tune dekha hai???

      tu Allah ko insano se compare kar raha hai jabki Allah ko kisi se compare nahi kiya ja sakta. kiya tu koi bahut bari sankhya ko soch sakta hai? har insaan k dimagh ki eik limit hoti hai us se aage woh nahi soch sakta…

      bahut bari sankhya insan ke dimagh mein nahi sama sakti aisi Allah jo har cheez par qudrat rakhta hai woh hamare dimagh mein exactly nahi sma sakta ki kitni power hai etc

      humein jo quran aur hadees mein batay hai us par vishwas rakhte hain, eik musalman sab se pehle ghaib par imaan rakhta hai lekin tu kiyu answer nahi de raha?

      jab mein answer de raha hun to us baat ko aur aage barha deta hai ?? itna bara vedanti jo zakir naik ko challenge karne nikla hai woh apne upar kiye gaye sawal ka answer nahi de sakta?

      tu ZN se kaise debate karega? kiya debate mein yeh kahega ki pehle communist/aryasamji ho jao phir samjhaunga warna tumhare samajh nahi ayegi? phir tu challenge kiyun kar raha hai??

      public tere pichware par chappal maar maar kar tujhe stage se utaregi agar aisi bakwas karega to…..han agniveer pe hero banta reh ki mein vedanti hun etc etc aata jata kuch nahi.. abhi do question pooch liye ved par to halat kharab hai..

      • anti-agniveer says

        @pagal-shankar, tu isliye answer nahi de raha kiyunki tu de hi nahi sakta.

        is ka answer dene mein dar gayakiya? pol khulne ka darr hai kiya ki tu bhi bina dekhai cheezon ko manta hai??? teri asani k liye phir likh deta hun …hahahaha

        //vedon k ishwar ko tune dekha hai kiya? agar nahi dekha aur manta hai to phir tu bhi to andvishwasi hua na??

        kiya tune 4 rishiyon ko dekha hai jinko ved diye gaye the? agar nahi aur tu manta hai to tu andhvishwasi hua na?

        yeh shankar kon hai jiski tu jaijaikar kar raha hai? kiya tune dhekha hai shankar ko? agar han to kahan dekha hai? moorti mein?
        tu samajh bhi pa raha hai ki mein kiya pooch raha hun?//

        “hi” aur “bhi” ka faisla ho gaya kiya?

        //tu isliye answer nahi de raha kiyunki tu de nahi sakta//

        waise tujhe maine yeh to samjha diya ki capital nahi likhna chahiyye.

        eik vedanti jo na ved parh sakta hai aur na uske satya hone par hi vishwas karta hai, agar karta to use phailata uski shiksha batata?? negative vedanti.

  68. jai shankar says

    @anti agniveer,tu sharm se pani pani kyo ho raha hai..ha.ha.ha…tu kahta hai ved ka eshwar dikhai nahi padta ? ha.ha.ha…meri baat siddha karne se pahale tere allah ko dekte hai.allah ek false concept hai,.kaise ??allah kitana mahan hai ye nahi pata??uski mahanta kaha se shuru hoti hai??akash,,prithvi ya satve aasman se?? Wo sirf mahan hai, aanu nahi hai??aanu se bhi aanu allah nahi hai??Ab ye allah,use koi bhi dekh nahi sakta. jo dekhai nahi deta aise hullah,kullah,jullah inko bhi manana padega???ha.ha.ha…ab hum ved ke eshwar ko siddha karte hai.wo mahan se bhi mahan aur anurenu se bhi chota hai.”anurenuyan mahatomahiyan” wo sirf mahan nahi hai mahan se bhi mahan hai aur sirf mahan nahi hai anu renu se bhi chota .mahan itna hai ki jo jo aadmi ke mahan ke hawale hai us mahan ke hawale se bhi mahan.aur chota itana ki anu ya renu nahi balki us se bhi chota. Iska arth hua ye jo anant vishva faila hai us ke paar bhi wo hai aur jo vishva ke chote anu renu hai usme bhi wo hai. Tum me bhi hai aur muzme bhi hai.wo everywhere hai ye siddha hua.allah everywhere nahi hai.wo muhammad & company limited hai.ved ka eshwar dikhta kyo nahi??kya tum bhi bina dekhe ved ke eshwar ko mante ho??? Chize jab dur ho tab dikhai nahi deti aur bahot najdik ho tab bhi dikhai nahi deti .hamari aankh hum dekh nahi sakte,kyoki wo bahot nikat hai.agar aankh jo ki matter hai phir bhi dikhai nahi deti ved ka eshwar man se bhi sushma haiuskebhitar hai ”sarvasya chaham hrudayi saniivisto”-geeta arthat mai sab ke hruday me hu.to wo itna nikat hai,ki hamara swarup ho gaya.to jo bhitar man ki search karega usko waha milega aur jo bahar murti ki puja karega use bahar bhi milega.allah na andar hai na bahar???false imagination hai jo aadha hai na pura hai????

    • anti-agniveer says

      hahahaa abe pagal kitna hi sukhshm ho ya bara ho agar dikhai nahi dega to baat wahi ki wahi rahin na ki “jo dikhai nahi deta use kaise manta hai” geeta kuch bhi kehdegi ki woh sukshm hai aur tu man lega?

      phir to tu bhi andvishwasi hua na?? aqal par pathar parein hain kiya? aur rishiyon ka aur shankar ka kiya hua?

      aise hum bhi keh sakte hain ki quran mein hai ki ” use(Yani Allah ko) nigahein nahi pa saktiin aur woh nigahon ko pa leta hai.

      logic ki baat kar ki jo dikhta nahi use kaise maanta hai.
      dubara parh aur naha dho kar dhande dil se answer de
      //@pagal-shankar, tu isliye answer nahi de raha kiyunki tu de hi nahi sakta.

      is ka answer dene mein dar gayakiya? pol khulne ka darr hai kiya ki tu bhi bina dekhai cheezon ko manta hai??? teri asani k liye phir likh deta hun …hahahaha

      //vedon k ishwar ko tune dekha hai kiya? agar nahi dekha aur manta hai to phir tu bhi to andvishwasi hua na??

      kiya tune 4 rishiyon ko dekha hai jinko ved diye gaye the? agar nahi aur tu manta hai to tu andhvishwasi hua na?

      yeh shankar kon hai jiski tu jaijaikar kar raha hai? kiya tune dhekha hai shankar ko? agar han to kahan dekha hai? moorti mein?
      tu samajh bhi pa raha hai ki mein kiya pooch raha hun?//

      “hi” aur “bhi” ka faisla ho gaya kiya?

      //tu isliye answer nahi de raha kiyunki tu de nahi sakta//

      waise tujhe maine yeh to samjha diya ki capital nahi likhna chahiyye.

      eik vedanti jo na ved parh sakta hai aur na uske satya hone par hi vishwas karta hai, agar karta to use phailata uski shiksha batata?? negative vedanti.//

  69. jai shankar says

    @antiagniveer,abe akal ke gadhe,hahaha..ved kabhi bhi dekhne ko nahi kahte aur na hi manane ko kahte. khojo aur jano ye kahte.unka sara jor JANANE par hai..manane par nahi.wo bhitar dekhane ko kahte hai.aur tu bahar ko hi dekhne ko dekhna kah raha hai. Bhitar dekh to tuze bhi dekhai padega.hahaha,ALLAH FALSE CONCEPT HAI kyo ki usko bhitar ki jankari kam hai??bhitar janneko us ne kabhi kaha nahi.ALLAH.SIRF MANO KI WO HAI,BHAY KHAO,DARO US SE AISA ALLAH HAI.dekhna,manana,janana ye sab man se sanbadhit hai.jab man janata hai tab wo bahar ke dekhane aur manane se mukta hota hai.hum ped ko jante hai to us par vishwas nahi karte ki, ped hai aisa hum vishwas kare. to ye siddha hua ki allah janane ko nahi kahta,khojane ko nahi kahta.hahaha..are use man ka bhi pata nahi hai ki wo kaisa hai? use sirf chanchal man ka,ashant man ka pata hai,shant man,shunya man,nirvikalp man is ka koi pata nahi hai.hahaha..kya tum man ko mante ho,kya tum man ko dekhte ho?hahaha.phir tum ho ki nahi ko?phir tum ho ki nahi ho ye kaise siddha hoga?hahaha….tum raat me sapna kis aankh se dekhte ho??hahaha…ved ka eshwar bhitar ki aankh se dekha aur jana jata hai.bahar ki indiryonka king man hai.shant hua wo, aapne gahre chipe bhagwan ko bhitar dekhta hai,janta hai..ye siddha hua ki allah false concept hai.hahaha…..

    • anti-agniveer says

      @bilkul hi pagal ho gaya hai kiya pagal-shankar? jo dikhai nahi deta use janta hai aur manta nahi?

      abe yeh kaise philosophy hai? ki jo dikhai na de use jan lo par mano mat?

      tu apne hi taraf se eik baat maan leta hai phir us par bakwas likhta rehta hai. bhai tu ved ki baat kar tujhe quran ka kiya pata?

      quran to khud kehta hai ki duniya ko dekho usmein ghor o fikr karo, apne aap par ghor o fikr karo, is sare jahan mein apne aap mein bahut nishaniyan hain un logon k liye jo aqal se kaam lein. aur jo apni aqal par parde chara lein unko kuch dikhai nahi dega.

      warna koi bhi deikh sakta hai ki yeh jahan khud nahi banaur chal sakta…yeh quran kisi insaan ka kalam nahi ho sakta.

      par tu jo hai woh makkar insaan hai… tujhe phir yaad dilata hun mera question kiya hai.. rishiyon ko kiyun bhool gaya??

      vedanti rishi [par answer nahi de para?
      //@pagal-shankar, tu isliye answer nahi de raha kiyunki tu de hi nahi sakta.

      is ka answer dene mein dar gayakiya? pol khulne ka darr hai kiya ki tu bhi bina dekhai cheezon ko manta hai??? teri asani k liye phir likh deta hun …hahahaha

      //vedon k ishwar ko tune dekha hai kiya? agar nahi dekha aur manta hai to phir tu bhi to andvishwasi hua na??

      kiya tune 4 rishiyon ko dekha hai jinko ved diye gaye the? agar nahi aur tu manta hai to tu andhvishwasi hua na?

      yeh shankar kon hai jiski tu jaijaikar kar raha hai? kiya tune dhekha hai shankar ko? agar han to kahan dekha hai? moorti mein?
      tu samajh bhi pa raha hai ki mein kiya pooch raha hun?//

      • anti-agniveer says

        @pagal-shankar, tu apne dada ya pardada ko janta hai par manta nahi ki woh hi tere dada aur pardada hain ?????? kiyunki tune unhein nahi dekha?? bhai in vedon ki sangati chor de warna aise laffazi mein phansa rahega aur gumrah hota rahega.

        hum itni philosophy k chakkar mein nahi parte ..humara mazhab sidha sadha hai…

        yeh jano aur mano mat ki philosophy k chakkar mein nahi parte..jab manta hi nahi to koi belief hi na hui tabhi to aaj agar 60 crore hindu hain to 60 crore hi faiths hain.

  70. A Muslim says

    Reading this thread, Masha Allah atleast non muslims brothers have started reading their scriptures and i am sure soon they will know on their own ‘The Truth’ …

    I am really happy that Zakir Naik has done a great job to bring the Truth and he has quoted every sentence with giving reference to the scriptures of non muslim brothers which made them think about what they are practicing as religion is correct or not??

    My Hindu brothers,, i would only say if you still have doubt about which is the correct religion, then work to get the top scholar of your religion in debate with Zakir Naik so that the truth can come infront of all of you… Pressurise your top scholars to go and debate live with Dr Zakir Naik so that you come to know the truth and decide who is correct and who is wrong.. Do not waste your time raising question for Zakir Naik, the person who is not here and could not reply :)

    Allah Haafiz and May Allah shows you the correct way :) Love you all brothers :)

    • Aditya says

      Check out this video where the teacher of zakir Naik Mr.Maulana Abdullah Tariq was defeated by arya samaj.This is just a small excerpt from the debate.You can see the other parts in youtube.The reason I referred you to this part is because it has english subtitles(in case you don’t understand Hindi)

      VIDEO-
      “Islam vs Hinduism debate: Hinduism defeated Islam decisively”
      This debate was in 2008 and it was the last time the hindu scholars saw them.I have a detailed timeline and events of their communication below.Read it .If you are still not convinced,i will send you a link where Arya samaj Sent a letter to IRF inviting them for a debate9I HAVE SENT A LINK TO THAT PAGE)

      MOREOVER,ANY COMMON LAY MAN WHO HAS A LITTLE KNOWLEDGE ABOUT HINDUISM WILL KNOW THAT WHAT HE SPREADS IS A LIE.I CAN POINT OUT MANY LIES IN HIS SPEECH.IF YOU ARE INTERESTED TO KNOW ABOUT THE LIES THAT HE SPREAD,WELL REPLY TO MY MAIL.

      In 2004, at height of his popularity among semi-literate fanatic Muslims, he sent a mail to Sri Mahendra Pal Arya, a leading member of our team with a photo of himself holding Quran in front and Vedas in back. Sri Mahendra Pal replied back inviting him for a debate on how Quran is considered superior to Vedas by Zakir Naik.

      Since then Zakir Naik has been extremely elusive. We have been trying to contact IRF through mail and phone, but they refuse to accept the invitation.

      2.
      In 2006, again a detailed letter was written to Zakir Naik questioning his fraudulent negative publicity of Vedas and other Hindu texts. He ignored as usual.

      3.
      On 27 March, 2007, we organized a debate between Pandit Mahendra Pal Arya and Tariq Murtaza, a professor of Aligarh Muslim University and a core member of Zakir Naik’s team. The debate was recorded on video as well. When Tariq Murtaza was forced to turn speechless, he gave lame excuses for the same. He then suggested that his teacher, Abdullah Tariq of Rampur would be able to debate better.

      Now this gentleman Abdullah Tariq is another right-hand of Zakir Naik and supposed to be the expert on comparative religions. His Taqiah belief (search on google to discover yourself what is Taqiah) is that Vedas are first message of Allah and Quran the final one. So all should go by the latest edition of His message.

      4.
      On 8 February, 2008, after a tiresome management of logistics, considering the busy schedule of both Mahendra Pal Arya and Abdullah Tariq (both are involved in conversion activities primarily and hence keep traveling), we could finally schedule a public debate in Bulandshahar, UP. Abdullah Tariq, very confident about his conversion and conversation skills, claimed in very beginning that he would be willing to come each day to explain about Quran if he gets such a crowd to hear. But as the debate progressed, one could see droplets of sweat on forehead of Abdullah Tariq. By the time debate was over, he had to cry foul that Mahendra Pal Arya deviated from core topic. The debate ended on a peaceful note though and Abdullah Tariq reiterated his willingness to come for discussions again and again.(THIS DEBATE IS UPLOADED IN YOUTUBE)

      5.
      That was the last we saw of Abdullah Tariq. Meanwhile we continued our efforts to contact Zakir Naik directly and invite him for a debate. But Islamic Research Foundation (IRF) would simply not respond. Sometime in mid of 2008, we uploaded videos of Pandit Mahendra Pal Arya on youtube. that did create an impact. We started getting hate mails and abuses, and also voices of support. Many disciples of Zakir Naik came to intermediate and stated that we have never ever issued an invitation for debate in first place. IRF also denied having received any such invitation from any person ever.

      Image via Wikipedia

      6.
      Meanwhile two fanatics filed a petition in Court to put a ban on Satyarth Prakash, the book by Swami Dayanand Saraswati that is severely critical of the neo-Islamic beliefs. It was a matter of surprise that our secular court admitted such a petition in first place. And while rest of the Samaj was busy holding protest rallies and holding press conferences, we filed a counter-petition in High Court challenging the authority of lower court to even take up this case. We presented a detailed petition highlighting importance of Satyarth Prakash and how the points made in this book regarding Islam are authentic and without malice. High Court had to use its special powers to bring the case to High Court for hearing. In second hearing, the Court dismissed the case warning the petitioners to not file such frivolous cases in future.

      This added to our notorious fame in eyes of the Zakir cohort.

      7.
      Many ignorant disciples of Zakir Naik, unaware of our previous invitations(LIKE YOU), claimed that if we ever come to face Zakir Naik, we would be crushed like anything. Others said that Zakir Naik is too big a personality to accept challenges from every Tom, Dick and Harry.

      We humbly admitted to the size of our erstwhile personality and to check out how that crushing might appear, we issued another invitation in November 2008 on behalf of “Sarvadeshik Arya Pratinidhi Sabha” — the apex body of Arya Samaj. You can review a copy of the invitation letter at http://www.scribd.com/doc/8142696/Official-Challenge-to-Dr-Zakir-Naik-by-Sarvdeshik-Arya-Pratinidhi-Sabha-

      8.
      There was an even greater silence from Zakir team after this. Because now, even Abdullah Tariq and Tariq Murtaza refused to come forward for another round of public discussions. They have now a standard stand – “If you want to discuss something, let us meet close doors and personally. We shall not discuss these things in public.”

      Our team members spent most of 2009 debating select groups of Muslims, neo-converts and old timers. We held many face to face debates, debates on phone with their prominent leaders and then on internet forums. This was when we realized how strong their network is. They have even priests of temples in their gang. In western UP, we became quite popular in this circle. We thus received huge number of dawats (invitations) to embrace Islam which we countered with our dawats to come back home to Vedic Dharma.

      We also continued our debates on Zakir Naik and his tactics on internet forums like orkut and facebook.

      No surprise that we had turned even more notoriously popular in their circle by now.
      9.
      Then sometime in July or August of 2009, Abdullah Tariq addressed Peace TV and declared that in 5 years, they would make India an Islamic State. This was the last straw to break everything. We replied him back with a counter-challenge that in 5 years, truth-seeking Muslims would escape from their grips of falsehood like sand.

      In August 2009, we sent another invitation to IRF to come up for a debate on behalf of Paropkarini Sabha — the apex intellectual body of Arya Samaj and caretaker of original Satyarth Prakash. We expected to receive no response as usual. So this time, we posted the invitation all across the web and email lists. You can view that simply by searching for “zakir naik paropkarini sabha” on google.

      We also called them up and we came to know that Zakir Naik is busy in Dubai. After lot of efforts, we finally got a response from IRF asking us about what is the strength of crowd that we can pull. I have attached this letter with this article as a pdf along with my reply.

      In my reply, I invited IRF experts to be present at Rishi Mela between October 23 and October 25, 2009 where thousands of people and famed personalities are expected to be present.

      10.
      That was the last ever communication we could make with IRF. Meanwhile the blabbering of Zakir Naik continued and I could see his messengers simply copy-pasting his writings to sway non-Muslims. We were thus left with no recourse but to prepare rebuttals to Zakir Naik’s demagoguery so as to prevent both Muslims and non-Muslims to fall in trap and develop completely wrong notions about Islam and Hinduism.

      Ever since then, Abdullah Tariq has even refused to take calls if they come from our phones. IRF is dead silent as usual. But the covert activities are going in full pace.

      Its obvious that Zakir Naik does not want to debate us publicly. At best, he would allow outsiders to ask a question to which he could reply by a one-liner and have his followers clap to their heart’s content. Or he would deliberately choose debaters who he knows are not trained in his covert methods.

      He refused written debate with Al Sina because written debates expose everything. He knows that his Qadiyani source of plagiarism is already exposed. And he knows that Arya Samaj has been a thorn in eyes of Muslim evangelists for last 125 years. He knows that this group is thoroughly well-versed with Quran, his ways and the blatant loopholes. He knows that to give a stage show among semi-literate blind followers scared of Hell is not same as debating with those whose history lies in Shuddhi movement.
      DO YOU STILL BELIEVE IN ZAKIR NAIK?
      MOREOVER I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST MUSLIMS(THEY ARE PEOPLE TOO) BUT I DO NOT LIKE THEIR BELIEFS (THIS DOES’T MEAN I TREAT THEM BAD,MY BEST FRIEND IS A MUSLIM).I CAN POINT OUT A LOT OF FLAWS IN ISLAM.IF YOU ARE INTERESTED,WE CAN CARRY OUT A HEALTHY CONVERSATION TO POINT OUT THE PRO’S AND CONS OF ISLAM AND SANATANA DHARMA(HINDUISM).
      PEACE PLS REPLY

      • Fatima says

        Mr you check out this video “Is non vegeterian food prohibited or permitted for humans” see how one of your leader was badly defeated that he left the program……

        Ok u say he never excepts the invitation but he does so many lectures in public u can go in any and say each and everything to him face to face and u can prove him wrong instead of just writing in this website then he will clear all your doubts… i am sure

        • Aditya says

          “Islam vs Hinduism debate: Hinduism defeated Islam decisively”
          This debate was in 2008 and it was the last time the hindu scholars saw them.I have a detailed timeline and events of their communication below.Read it .If you are still not convinced,i will send you a link where Arya samaj Sent a letter to IRF inviting them for a debate9I HAVE SENT A LINK TO THAT PAGE)

          MOREOVER,ANY COMMON LAY MAN WHO HAS A LITTLE KNOWLEDGE ABOUT HINDUISM WILL KNOW THAT WHAT HE SPREADS IS A LIE.I CAN POINT OUT MANY LIES IN HIS SPEECH.IF YOU ARE INTERESTED TO KNOW ABOUT THE LIES THAT HE SPREAD,WELL REPLY TO MY MAIL.

          In 2004, at height of his popularity among semi-literate fanatic Muslims, he sent a mail to Sri Mahendra Pal Arya, a leading member of our team with a photo of himself holding Quran in front and Vedas in back. Sri Mahendra Pal replied back inviting him for a debate on how Quran is considered superior to Vedas by Zakir Naik.

          Since then Zakir Naik has been extremely elusive. We have been trying to contact IRF through mail and phone, but they refuse to accept the invitation.

          2.
          In 2006, again a detailed letter was written to Zakir Naik questioning his fraudulent negative publicity of Vedas and other Hindu texts. He ignored as usual.

          3.
          On 27 March, 2007, we organized a debate between Pandit Mahendra Pal Arya and Tariq Murtaza, a professor of Aligarh Muslim University and a core member of Zakir Naik’s team. The debate was recorded on video as well. When Tariq Murtaza was forced to turn speechless, he gave lame excuses for the same. He then suggested that his teacher, Abdullah Tariq of Rampur would be able to debate better.

          Now this gentleman Abdullah Tariq is another right-hand of Zakir Naik and supposed to be the expert on comparative religions. His Taqiah belief (search on google to discover yourself what is Taqiah) is that Vedas are first message of Allah and Quran the final one. So all should go by the latest edition of His message.

          4.
          On 8 February, 2008, after a tiresome management of logistics, considering the busy schedule of both Mahendra Pal Arya and Abdullah Tariq (both are involved in conversion activities primarily and hence keep traveling), we could finally schedule a public debate in Bulandshahar, UP. Abdullah Tariq, very confident about his conversion and conversation skills, claimed in very beginning that he would be willing to come each day to explain about Quran if he gets such a crowd to hear. But as the debate progressed, one could see droplets of sweat on forehead of Abdullah Tariq. By the time debate was over, he had to cry foul that Mahendra Pal Arya deviated from core topic. The debate ended on a peaceful note though and Abdullah Tariq reiterated his willingness to come for discussions again and again.(THIS DEBATE IS UPLOADED IN YOUTUBE)

          5.
          That was the last we saw of Abdullah Tariq. Meanwhile we continued our efforts to contact Zakir Naik directly and invite him for a debate. But Islamic Research Foundation (IRF) would simply not respond. Sometime in mid of 2008, we uploaded videos of Pandit Mahendra Pal Arya on youtube. that did create an impact. We started getting hate mails and abuses, and also voices of support. Many disciples of Zakir Naik came to intermediate and stated that we have never ever issued an invitation for debate in first place. IRF also denied having received any such invitation from any person ever.

          6.
          Meanwhile two fanatics filed a petition in Court to put a ban on Satyarth Prakash, the book by Swami Dayanand Saraswati that is severely critical of the neo-Islamic beliefs. It was a matter of surprise that our secular court admitted such a petition in first place. And while rest of the Samaj was busy holding protest rallies and holding press conferences, we filed a counter-petition in High Court challenging the authority of lower court to even take up this case. We presented a detailed petition highlighting importance of Satyarth Prakash and how the points made in this book regarding Islam are authentic and without malice. High Court had to use its special powers to bring the case to High Court for hearing. In second hearing, the Court dismissed the case warning the petitioners to not file such frivolous cases in future.

          This added to our notorious fame in eyes of the Zakir cohort.

          7.
          Many ignorant disciples of Zakir Naik, unaware of our previous invitations(LIKE YOU), claimed that if we ever come to face Zakir Naik, we would be crushed like anything. Others said that Zakir Naik is too big a personality to accept challenges from every Tom, Dick and Harry.

          We humbly admitted to the size of our erstwhile personality and to check out how that crushing might appear, we issued another invitation in November 2008 on behalf of “Sarvadeshik Arya Pratinidhi Sabha” — the apex body of Arya Samaj. You can review a copy of the invitation letter at

          http://www.scribd.com/doc/8142696/Official-Challenge-to-Dr-Zakir-Naik-by-Sarvdeshik-Arya-Pratinidhi-Sabha-

          8.
          There was an even greater silence from Zakir team after this. Because now, even Abdullah Tariq and Tariq Murtaza refused to come forward for another round of public discussions. They have now a standard stand – “If you want to discuss something, let us meet close doors and personally. We shall not discuss these things in public.”

          Our team members spent most of 2009 debating select groups of Muslims, neo-converts and old timers. We held many face to face debates, debates on phone with their prominent leaders and then on internet forums. This was when we realized how strong their network is. They have even priests of temples in their gang. In western UP, we became quite popular in this circle. We thus received huge number of dawats (invitations) to embrace Islam which we countered with our dawats to come back home to Vedic Dharma.

          We also continued our debates on Zakir Naik and his tactics on internet forums like orkut and facebook.

          No surprise that we had turned even more notoriously popular in their circle by now.
          9.
          Then sometime in July or August of 2009, Abdullah Tariq addressed Peace TV and declared that in 5 years, they would make India an Islamic State. This was the last straw to break everything. We replied him back with a counter-challenge that in 5 years, truth-seeking Muslims would escape from their grips of falsehood like sand.

          In August 2009, we sent another invitation to IRF to come up for a debate on behalf of Paropkarini Sabha — the apex intellectual body of Arya Samaj and caretaker of original Satyarth Prakash. We expected to receive no response as usual. So this time, we posted the invitation all across the web and email lists. You can view that simply by searching for “zakir naik paropkarini sabha” on google.

          We also called them up and we came to know that Zakir Naik is busy in Dubai. After lot of efforts, we finally got a response from IRF asking us about what is the strength of crowd that we can pull. I have attached this letter with this article as a pdf along with my reply.

          In my reply, I invited IRF experts to be present at Rishi Mela between October 23 and October 25, 2009 where thousands of people and famed personalities are expected to be present.

          10.
          That was the last ever communication we could make with IRF. Meanwhile the blabbering of Zakir Naik continued and I could see his messengers simply copy-pasting his writings to sway non-Muslims. We were thus left with no recourse but to prepare rebuttals to Zakir Naik’s demagoguery so as to prevent both Muslims and non-Muslims to fall in trap and develop completely wrong notions about Islam and Hinduism.

          Ever since then, Abdullah Tariq has even refused to take calls if they come from our phones. IRF is dead silent as usual. But the covert activities are going in full pace.

          Its obvious that Zakir Naik does not want to debate us publicly. At best, he would allow outsiders to ask a question to which he could reply by a one-liner and have his followers clap to their heart’s content. Or he would deliberately choose debaters who he knows are not trained in his covert methods.

          He refused written debate with Al Sina because written debates expose everything. He knows that his Qadiyani source of plagiarism is already exposed. And he knows that Arya Samaj has been a thorn in eyes of Muslim evangelists for last 125 years. He knows that this group is thoroughly well-versed with Quran, his ways and the blatant loopholes. He knows that to give a stage show among semi-literate blind followers scared of Hell is not same as debating with those whose history lies in Shuddhi movement.
          DO YOU STILL BELIEVE IN ZAKIR NAIK?
          MOREOVER I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST MUSLIMS(THEY ARE PEOPLE TOO) BUT I DO NOT LIKE THEIR BELIEFS (THIS DOES’T MEAN I TREAT THEM BAD,MY BEST FRIEND IS A MUSLIM).I CAN POINT OUT A LOT OF FLAWS IN ISLAM.IF YOU ARE INTERESTED,WE CAN CARRY OUT A HEALTHY CONVERSATION TO POINT OUT THE PRO’S AND CONS OF ISLAM AND SANATANA DHARMA(HINDUISM).
          PEACE PLS REPLY

          HE SHOULD DEBATE WITH RELIGIOUS LEADERS AND NOT SPRITUAL LEADERS(LIKE RAVISHANKARJI). BECAUSE BOTH HAVE A DIFFERENCE AND THERE ARE ONLY A FEW PEOPLE ON EARTH WHO HAVE MASTERED BOTH

        • Aditya says

          And I can Scientifically prove that meat is bad for humans.
          Are human beings anatomically more similar to natural carnivores or to natural herbivores? Let’s find out….
          Intestinal tract length. Carnivorous animals have intestinal tracts that are 3-6x their body length, while herbivores have intestinal tracts 10-12x their body length. Human beings have the same intestinal tract ratio as herbivores.
          Stomach acidity. Carnivores’ stomachs are 20x more acidic than the stomachs of herbivores. Human stomach acidity matches that of herbivores.
          Saliva. The saliva of carnivores is acidic. The saliva of herbivores is alkaline, which helps pre-digest plant foods. Human saliva is alkaline.
          Shape of intestines. Carnivore bowels are smooth, shaped like a pipe, so meat passes through quickly — they don’t have bumps or pockets. Herbivore bowels are bumpy and pouch-like with lots of pockets, like a windy mountain road, so plant foods pass through slowly for optimal nutrient absorption. Human bowels have the same characteristics as those of herbivores.
          Fiber. Carnivores don’t require fiber to help move food through their short and smooth digestive tracts. Herbivores require dietary fiber to move food through their long and bumpy digestive tracts, to prevent the bowels from becoming clogged with rotting food. Humans have the same requirement as herbivores.
          Cholesterol. Cholesterol is not a problem for a carnivore’s digestive system. A carnivore such as a cat can handle a high-cholesterol diet without negative health consequences. A human cannot. Humans have zero dietary need for cholesterol because our bodies manufacture all we need. Cholesterol is only found in animal foods, never in plant foods. A plant-based diet is by definition cholesterol-free.
          Claws and teeth. Carnivores have claws, sharp front teeth capable of subduing prey, and no flat molars for chewing. Herbivores have no claws or sharp front teeth capable of subduing prey, but they have flat molars for chewing. Humans have the same characteristics as herbivores.
          In fact, our hands are perfect for grabbing and picking fruits and vegetables. Similarly, like the intestines of other herbivores, ours are very long (carnivores have short intestines so they can quickly get rid of all that rotting flesh they eat). We don’t have sharp claws to seize and hold down prey. And most of us (hopefully) lack the instinct that would drive us to chase and then kill animals and devour their raw carcasses.

          Well the vedas prohibits meat eating(obviously scientifically
          backed)
          IF THE QURAN WAS SCIENTIFIC,IT SHOULD PROHIBIT MEAT EATING.WELL IT DOES NOT , SO IT IS EVIDENT THAT IT IS NOT SCIENTIFIC.
          I CHALLENGE YOU TO POINT OUT SCIENTIFIC FACTS IN QURAN THAT ARE NOT IN THE VEDAS.

  71. jai shankar says

    jab aadmi sapna dekhta hai,tab wo aapne bhitar pura jagat nirmit karta hai.jaisa jagat bahar hota hai vaise hi bhitar hota hai.bahar,chand,suraj,aakash,zamin,diwar achal hai to us ke sapne me bhi wo achal hote hai.is ka arth hua wo jo duniya banata hai wo apni man ki shakti se banata hai.koi bhi mehanat,samugri,sadhan use nahi karta.kyo wo allah ka sathidar nahi hai kya???thodi der ke liye to wo duniya banta hai,duniya me rahta hai,aur duniya ko distroy bhi karta hai,wo creator bhi hai distroyer bhi hai,is se bhi wo sathidar nahi hoga?????hahaha…..

  72. jai shankar says

    ISLAM KI SACCHAI 8 –
    The prophet of Islam committed SHIRK – he was a hypocrite – he made himself Allah’s partner! Read carefully….
    O you who believe, obey Allah and His Messenger … ” (8:20) “Say: obey Allah and
    obey the Messenger … ” (24:54) … “Obey Allah and the Messenger and perhaps you will
    be shown mercy.” (3:132) “If you obey him, you will be guided … ” (24:54) “Whoever
    obeys the Messenger has obeyed Allah … ” (4:79) “That what the Messenger brings you
    and leave what he forbids you … ” (59:7) “Whoever obeys Allah and the Messenger is
    with those whom Allah has blessed.” (4:68) “We did not send any Messenger but for him to be obeyed by the permission of Allah.” (4:63) … “Whoever obeys me has obeyed Allah. Whoever rebels against me has rebelled
    against Allah. …” (Muslim and al Bukhari)Obeying the Messenger is part of obeying Allah
    since Allah commands that he be obeyed. True obedience is obedience to Allah’s
    command and therefore obedience to His Prophet. … In the hadith of Abu Hurayrah we find that the Prophet said, “All of my community
    will enter the Garden except for those who refuse to.” They asked, “O Messenger of
    Allah, who will refuse?” He replied, “Whoever obeys me will enter the Garden. Whoever
    rebels against me has refused.” (Al Hakim) … “It is like someone who builds a house and lays out a fine feast in it and sends out a
    summoner. Whoever does not answer the summoner does not enter the house and eat
    from the feast.” (Muslim and al Bukhari)
    Again read carefully…
    “His the Kingdom of the Heavens and of the Earth! No son hath He begotten! No partner hath He in his Empire! ” Al-Koran, Surah XXV. “…when One God was proclaimed to you, ye believed not: but when partners had been united with him, ye believed…” Al-Koran, Surah XL. “…Verily, if thou join partners with God , vain shall be all thy work, and thyself shalt be of those who perish.” Al-Koran, Surah XXXIX. “SAY: Come, I will rehearse what your Lord hath made binding on you–that ye assign
    not aught to Him as partner;” Al-Koran, Surah VI.
    That Mohammad was a hopelessly confused moron – but at least he could blame his
    delusions on mental illness and hallucinations.

  73. jai shankar says

    ISLAM KI SACCHAI 9 – islam ka arth peace nahi hai,nahi tha aur nahi rahega.islam ka arth hai sharanagati.kuch akal ke diwane jaise batate hai islam=peace bebunuyad aur sabse bada jhuth hai.Islam=Submission,Salam=Well-being/Peace,(Derivation of Salama=The stinging of a snake or the tanning of theleather,Saleema=To be saved or to escape from danger(when refering to a female),Saleem=To be saved or to escape from danger(when refering to a male),Aslam=To submit,Istaslama=To surrender,Tasleem=To receive a salutationor becoming submitted
    he root word of Islam
    is “al-silm” which means “submission” or “surrender.”
    It is understood to mean “submission to Allah.” In
    spite of whatever noble intention has caused many a
    Muslim to claim that Islam is derived primarily from peace, this is not true. Allah says in the Qur’an
    (translated): [2:136] Say (O Muslims): We believe in Allah and
    that which is revealed to us and that which was
    revealed to Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and
    Jacob, and the tribes, and that which Moses and
    Jesus received, and that which the prophets
    received from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and to Him we have
    surrendered. [Arabic "Muslimoon"] A secondary root of Islam may be “Al-Salaam” (peace),
    however the text of the Qur’an makes it clear that
    Allah has clearly intended the focus of this way of life
    to be submission to Him. This entails submission to
    Him at all times, in times of peace, war, ease, or difficulty.Qur’an 5:3 says Islam is a deen (religion) Today, I have perfected your religion (dīn) for you; I
    have completed My blessing upon you; I have
    approved Islam for your religion Qur’an 5:3,Qur’an 3:19 says Islam is submission to Allah The Religion before Allah is Islam (submission to His
    Will): Nor did the People of the Book dissent
    therefrom except through envy of each other, after
    knowledge had come to them. But if any deny the
    Signs of Allah, Allah is swift in calling to account. Qur’an 3:19,

  74. jai shankar says

    ALLAH KI HAISIYAT???- ye jo allah hai koi dimag ki soch hai,muhammad ki mind vision hai.jyada se jyada ye man tak hi chalang le pati hai.ALLAH JO HAI WO AACCHE SAPNE BHEJTA HAI AUR BURE SAPNE SHAITAN SE AATE HAI – aisa kahna hi dimag ka star ,mentality darshata hai.bahot hi nichale darze ki mansikata siddha karta hai.sirf bura sapna bura hai usko shaitan se jodna aur aaccha sapna allah se jodna murkhata ki baat hai.sapne aakhir sapne hote hai.man ki vichar ki tarange hoti hai,iska allah se aur shaitan se jodna bachkana baat hai.are ye MUHAMMAD KO NEEND KI BIMARI TO NAHI???phir ye allah insan se marte waqt uski aatma chinta hai,aur jab mara nahi aise neend me uske aatma ko kabje me leta hai??(Q.azzumar42-43). hahaha …ab jab neend me uske aatma ko kabje me lenewale allah ko kya itna bhi pata nahi hoga ki ye sapne kaise dekhega????hahaha…jab neend me aatma kabje me lega to aatma to allah ke hate me rahi phir ye neend se jagne par usko kyo nahi yaa hota?bhich me uthata hai to kya allah fouran kabja chodta hai kya??hahaha….YE ALLAH JHUTH HAI,JHUTI BAATE KARTA HAI.

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