‘वेदों में गोमांस? ‘ प्रथम भाग में हम ने वेदों पर लगाए गए गोमांसाहार और पशुबलि के आरोपों की गहराई से जाँच की और पर्याप्त प्रमाणों से यह बताया कि-

१. वेद पशुओं और निर्दोष प्राणियों की हिंसा के सख्त खिलाफ हैं.

२. वेद में यज्ञ की परिभाषा ही अहिंसा से होने वाला अनुष्ठान है और वैदिक मूल्य पशु बलि के सख्त खिलाफ हैं.

३. गोमांसाहार के विपरीत, वेद गाय की रक्षा करने और उसके हत्यारों को अत्यंत कठोर सज़ा देने के निर्देश देते हैं.

इस लेख के प्रकाशन के बाद वेदों को बदनाम करने की मुहिम पर लगाम लगी है. इसके प्रमाणों के प्रतिवाद में आज तक कोई संतोषकारी जवाब नहीं मिला.फिर भी कुछ लोग छुट- पुट आरोप लगाते रहते हैं. अपने पक्ष में यह लोग अज्ञानी और वेदों के अनुवाद में अक्षम पाश्चात्य लोगों के वैदिक साहित्य के अनुवादों से अपमानजनक और बेहूदे अवतरणों को लेकर प्रस्तुत करते रहते हैं.

यहाँ हम ऐसे ही कुछ आरोपों का जवाब देंगे ताकि आगे भी कोई गुमराह न कर सके. अधिक जानकारी के लिए लेख के प्रथम भाग में दी गयी सन्दर्भों की सूची देखें.


उत्तर :
यज्ञ शब्द ‘यज’ धातु  में ‘ नड्. प्रत्यय जोड कर बनता है. यज धातु के तीन अर्थ होते है – १. देव पूजा – आस- पास के सभी भूतों (पदार्थों) का जतन करना और यथायोग्य उपयोग लेना, ईश्वर की पूजा, माता-पिता का सम्मान, पर्यावरण को साफ़ रखना इत्यादि इस के कुछ उदाहरण हैं. २. दान. ३. संगतिकरण (एकता). वेदों के अनुसार इन में मनुष्यों के सभी कर्तव्य आ जाते हैं. इसलिए सिर्फ वेद ही नहीं बल्कि प्राचीन सारे भारतीय ग्रन्थ यज्ञ की महिमा गाते हैं.
आरोप १ : वेद में यज्ञों का बहुत गुणगान किया गया है. और यज्ञों में पशु बलि दी जाती थी, यह सभी जानते हैं. 

मुख्य बात यह है कि यज्ञ में पशु हिंसा का कहीं कोई प्रमाण नहीं मिलता. वैदिक कोष- निरुक्त २.७यज्ञ को अध्वरकहता है अर्थात हिंसा से रहित (ध्वर=हिंसा). पशु हिंसा हीक्या, यज्ञ में तो शरीर, मन, वाणी से भी की जाने वाली किसी हिंसा के लिएस्थान नहीं है. वेदों के अनेक मन्त्र यज्ञ के लिए अध्वर शब्द का प्रयोग करते हैं. उदा. ऋग्वेद – १.१.४, १.१.८, १.१४.२१, १.१२८.४, १.१९.१, अथर्ववेद- ४.२४.३, १८.२.२, १.४.२, ५.१२.२, १९.४२.४. यजुर्वेद के लगभग ४३मन्त्रों में यज्ञ के लिए अध्वर शब्द आया है. यजुर्वेद ३६.१८ तो कहता है कि ” मैं सभी प्राणियों- सर्वाणि भूतानि (केवल मनुष्यों को नहीं बल्कि जीव मात्र) को मित्र की दृष्टि से देखूं.” इस से पता चलता है कि वेद कहीं भी पशु हिंसा का समर्थन नहीं करता बल्कि उसका निषेध करता है.

भारतवर्ष के मध्य काल में वैदिक मूल्यों का पतन होने के कारण पशु हिंसा चला दी गई. इस का दोष वेदों को नहीं दिया जा सकता. जैसे, आज कई फ़िल्मी सितारे और मॉडल्स मुस्लिम हैं जो फूहड़ता और अश्लीलता परोसते हैं – इस से कुरान अश्लीलता की समर्थक कही जाएगी? इसी तरह, ईसाई देशों में विवाह पूर्व सम्बन्ध और व्याभिचार का बोलबाला है – तो बाइबिल को इस का आधार कहा जायेगा? हमारी चुनौती है उन सब को – जो यज्ञों में पशु बलि बताते हैं कि वे इस का एक भी प्रमाण वेदों से निकाल कर दिखाएँ.

आरोप : यदि ऐसा ही है तो वेदों में आए – अश्वमेध, नरमेध, अजमेध, गोमेध क्याहैं ? ‘मेधका मतलब है – ‘ मारना‘, यहाँ तक कि वेद तो नरमेध की बात भीकरते हैं?

उत्तर: इस लेख के प्रथम भाग में हम चर्चा कर चुके हैं कि ‘ मेध’ शब्द का अर्थ –  ‘ हिंसा’ ही नहीं है. ‘मेध’ शब्द- बुद्धि पूर्वक कार्य करने को प्रकट करता है. मेध- ‘ मेधृ – सं – ग – मे’ से बना है. इसलिए, इस का अर्थ –  मिलाप करना, सशक्त करना या पोषित करना भी है. (देखें – धातु पाठ)

जबयज्ञ को अध्वर अर्थात हिंसा रहितकहा गया है, तो उस के सन्दर्भ में मेधका अर्थ हिंसा क्यों लिया जाये? बुद्धिमान व्यक्ति मेधावीकहे जातेहैं और इसी तरह, लड़कियों का नाम मेधा, सुमेधा इत्यादि रखा जाता है. तो येनाम क्या उनके हिंसक होने के कारण रखे जाते हैं या बुद्धिमान होने के कारण ?

शतपथ १३.१.६.३ और १३.२.२.३ स्पष्ट कहता है कि – राष्ट्र के गौरव, कल्याण और विकास के लिए किये जाने वाले कार्य ‘अश्वमेध’ हैं. शिवाजी, राणा प्रताप, राम प्रसाद बिस्मिल, अशफाक, चन्द्र शेखर आजाद, भगत सिंह आदि हमारे महान देश भक्त, क्रांतिकारी वीरों ने राष्ट्र रक्षा के लिए अपने जीवन आहूत करके अश्वमेध यज्ञ ही किया था.

अन्न को दूषित होने से बचाना, अपनी इन्द्रियों को वश में रखना, सूर्य कीकिरणों से उचित उपयोग लेना, धरती को पवित्र या साफ़ रखना –गोमेधयज्ञ है. ‘ गो’ शब्द का एक अर्थ – ‘ पृथ्वी’  भी है. पृथ्वी और उसके पर्यावरण को स्वच्छ रखना ‘गोमेध’ है. (देखें – निघण्टू १.१, शतपथ १३.१५.३)

मनुष्य की मृत्यु के बाद, उसके शरीर का वैदिक रीति से दाह संस्कार करना –नरमेध यज्ञ है. मनुष्यों को उत्तम कार्यों के लिए प्रशिक्षित एवं संगठित करना भी नरमेध या पुरुषमेध या नृमेध यज्ञ कहलाता है.

अजकहते हैं – बीज या अनाज या धान्य को. इसलिए, कृषि की पैदावार बढ़ाना –अजमेध. सीमित अर्थों में – अग्निहोत्र में धान्य से आहुति देना. (देखें-महाभारत शांतिपर्व ३३७.४-५)

विष्णु शर्मा, सुप्रसिद्ध पचतंत्र (काकोलूकीयम्) में कहते हैं कि – जो लोग यज्ञ में हिंसा करते हैं, वे मूर्ख हैं. क्योंकि वे वेद के वास्तविक अर्थ को नहीं समझते. यदि पशुओ को मार कर स्वर्ग में जा सकते हैं, तो फ़िर नरकमें जाने का मार्ग कौन-सा है? महाभारतशांतिपर्व (२६३.६, २६५.९) के अनुसार – यज्ञ में शराब, मछली, मांस को चलानेवाले लोग धूर्त, नास्तिक और शास्त्र ज्ञान से रहित हैं. 

आरोप ३  : यजुर्वेद मन्त्र २४.२९ – हस्तिन आलम्भते ‘ – हाथियों को मारने के लिए कहता है?

उत्तर: ‘लभ्’ धातु से बनने वाला आलम्भ मारना अर्थ नहीं रखता. लभ् = अर्जित करना या पाना. हालाँकि ‘ हस्तिन’ शब्द का ‘हाथी’ से आलावा और गहन अर्थ भी निकलता है, तब भी यदि हम इस मंत्र में ‘हाथी’ अर्थ लें, तो इससे यही पता चलता है कि, राजा को अपने राज्य के विकास हेतु हाथिओं को प्राप्त करना चाहिए या अर्जित करना चाहिए. भला इसमें हिंसा कहाँ है?

आलम्भशब्द अनेकों स्थानों पर अर्जित करने या प्राप्त करने के लिए आयाहै. उदा. मनुस्मृति ब्रह्मचारियों के लिए स्त्रियों को पाने का निषेध करतेहुए कहती है: वर्जयेत स्त्रीनाम आलम्भं‘. अतः आलम्भते का अर्थ मारनापूर्णत: गलत है. जिन लोगों की जीभ को मांस खाने की लत पड़ गई है उन्हें पशुओं का उपयोग – ‘खाना’ ही समझ में आता है और इसलिए वेद मन्त्रों में ‘आलम्भते’ मतलब मारना, उन्होंने अपने मन से गढ़ लिया.

आरोप ४ : ब्राह्मण ग्रंथों और श्रौत सूत्रों में संज्ञपन शब्द आया है, जिसका मतलब बलिदान है ?

उत्तर: अथर्ववेद  ६.७४.१-२  कहता है कि हम अपने मन, शरीर और हृदयों का ‘ संज्ञपन ‘ करें. तो क्या इस से यह समझा जाये कि हम स्वयं को मार दें ! संज्ञपन का वास्तविक अर्थ है – ‘मेल करना या पोषण करना’. मन्त्र का अर्थ है – हम अपने मन, शरीर और हृदयों को बलवान बनाएं जिससे वे एक साथ मिलकर काम करें. संज्ञपन का एक अर्थ – ‘जताना ‘ भी होता है.

आरोप ५ : यजुर्वेद २५. ३४-३५ और ऋग्वेद १.१६२.११-१२ में घोड़े की बलि का स्पष्ट वर्णन है –

अग्नि से पकाए, मरे हुए तेरे अवयवों से जो मांस- रस उठताहै वह वह भूमि या घास पर न गिरे, वह चाहते हुए देवों को प्राप्त हो.” ” जोघोड़े को अग्नि में पका हुआ देखते हैं और जो कहते हैं कि इस मरे हुए घोड़ेसे बड़ी अच्छी गंध आ रही है तथा जो घोड़े के मांस की लालसा करते हैं, उनकाउद्यम हमें प्राप्त हो.”

उत्तर:  पता चल रहा है कि आपने ग्रिफिथ की नक़ल की है. पहले मन्त्र का घोड़े से कोई वास्ता नहींहै. वहां सिर्फ यह कहा गया है कि ज्वर या बुखार से पीड़ित मनुष्य को वैद्यलोग उपचार प्रदान करें.  दूसरे मन्त्र में ‘वाजिनम्’ को घोड़ा समझा गया है. वाजिनम् का अर्थ है  – शूर \ बलवान \ गतिशील \ तेज. इसीलिए घोड़ा वाजिनम् कहलाता है. इस मन्त्र के अनेक अर्थ हो सकते हैं पर कहीं से भी घोड़े की बलि का अर्थ नहीं निकलता. 

यदि वाजिनम् का अर्थ घोड़ा ही लिया जाये तब भी अर्थ होगा कि – घोड़ों ( वाजिनम् ) को मारने से रोका जाये. इन मन्त्रों के सही अर्थ जानने के लिए कृपया ऋषि दयानंद का भाष्य पढ़ें. साथ ही, पशु हिंसा निषेध और पशु हत्यारे खासकर गाय और घोड़े के हत्यारों के लिए कठोर दंड के मन्त्रों को जानने के लिए प्रथम लेख – वेदों में गोमांस? पढ़ें.

आरोप ६  : वेदों में गोघ्नया गायों के वध के संदर्भ हैं और गाय का मांस परोसने वाले को अतिथिग्वा अतिथिग्ना कहा गया है.आप इन्हें कैसे स्पष्ट करेंगे

उत्तर: लेख के प्रथम भाग में हम पर्याप्त सबूत दे चुके हैं कि वेदों में गाय को अघन्या या अदिती – अर्थात् कभी न मारने योग्य कहा गया है और गोहत्यारे के लिए अत्यंत कठोर दण्ड के विधान को भी दिखा चुके हैं. ‘गम्’ धातु का अर्थ है – ‘जाना’. इसलिए गतिशील होने के कारण ग्रहों को भी ‘गो’ कहते हैं. अतिथिग्वा \ अतिथिग्ना का अर्थ अतिथियों की तरफ़ या अतिथियों की सेवा के लिए जाने वाले है.

गोघ्नके अनेक अर्थ होते हैं. यदि गोसे मतलब गाय लिया जाए तब भी गो+ हन् ‘ = गाय के पास जाना, ऐसा अर्थ होगा. हन्धातु का अर्थ -हिंसा के अलावा गति,ज्ञानइत्यादि भी होते हैं. वेदों के कई उदाहरणों से पता चलता है कि ‘हन्’ का प्रयोग किसी के निकट जाने या पास पहुंचने के लिए भी किया जाता है. उदा. अथर्ववेद ‘हन् ‘ का प्रयोग करते हुए पति को पत्नी के पास जाने का उपदेश देता है. इसलिए, इन दावों में कोई दम नहीं है.

आरोप ७ : वेद जवान गायों को मारने केलिए नहीं कहते पर बूढ़ी, बाँझ (वशा ‘) गाय को मारने की आज्ञा देते हैं.इसी तरह, ‘ उक्षा या बैल को मारने की आज्ञा भी है. 

उत्तर:   इस मनघडंत कहानी के आधुनिक प्रचारक डी.एन झा हैं. वह गौ- मांस भक्षण के अपने दावे को वेदों से दिखाने में सफल न हो सके. क्योंकि वेदों में इस के बिलकुल विपरीत बात ही कही गयी है और गौ हत्या का सख्त निषेध मौजूद है. इसलिए इस के बचाव में उन्होंने लाल बुझक्कड़ी  कल्पना का सहारा लिया.

दरअसल उक्षा एक औषधीय पौधा है, जिसे सोम भी कहते हैं. यहाँ तककि मोनिअर विलियम्स भी अपने संस्कृत – इंग्लिश कोष में उक्षा का यही अर्थ करते हैं. ‘वशा’ का अर्थ ईश्वर की संसार को ‘ वश ‘ में रखने वाली शक्ति है. यदि ‘ वशा ‘ का मतलब बाँझ गाय कर लिया जाए तो कई वेद मन्त्र अपने अर्थ खो देंगे.

उदा. अथर्ववेद १०.१०.४ – यहाँ ‘ वशा ‘ के साथ सहस्र धारा( सहस्रों पदार्थों को धारण करने वाली ) का प्रयोग हुआ है. अन्न, दूध और जल की प्रचुरता दर्शाने वाली सहस्र धारा के साथ एक बाँझ गाय की तुलना कैसे हो सकती है? ऋग्वेद  १०.१९०.२  मेंईश्वर की नियामक शक्ति को वशी कहा गया है और प्रतिदिन दो बार की जानेवाली वैदिक संध्या में इस मन्त्र को बोला जाता है. 

अथर्ववेद २०.१०३.१५ संतान सहित उत्तमपत्नी को वशा कहता है. अन्य कुछ मन्त्रों में वशाशब्द उपजाऊ जमीनया औषधीय पौधे के लिए भी आया है. मोनिअर विलियम्स के कोष में भी ‘वशा’ औषधीय पौधे के सन्दर्भ में प्रयुक्त हुआ है.

इन लोगों ने किस आधार पर वशा का अर्थ बाँझ‘ किया है, यह समझ से परे है.

आरोप ८ : बृहदारण्यक उपनिषद  ६.४.१८के अनुसार उत्तम संतान चाहने वाले दंपत्ति को चावल में मांस मिलाकर खानाचाहिए, साथ ही बैल (अर्षभ) और बछड़े (उक्षा) के मांस का सेवन भी करनाचाहिए. 

उत्तर:  वेदों से थककर अब उपनिषदों पर आ गए. पर यदि कोई उपनिषदों में गोमांसाहार दिखा भी दे, तब भी इस से वेदों में गोमांस सिद्ध नहीं हो जाता.

१.हिन्दुओं के सभी धार्मिक ग्रन्थ वेदों को ही अपना आदि स्रोत मानते हैं. इसलिए हिन्दू धर्म में वेदों का प्रमाण ही सर्वोच्च है. पूर्व मीमांसा  १.३.३, मनुस्मृति २.१३, १२.९५, जाबालस्मृति, भविष्य पुराण इत्यादि के अनुसार वेद और अन्य ग्रंथों में मतभेद होने पर वेदों को ही सही माना जाए.

२.बृहदारण्यकोपनिषत् पर किया गया यह बेहूदा आरोप दरअसल गलत समझ का नतीजा है.

३.पहले ‘मांसौदनम्’ को लें –

यहाँ इस श्लोक से पूर्व ४ ऐसे श्लोक हैं, जिनमें बच्चों में विविध वैदिक ज्ञान पाने के लिए चावल को विशिष्ट खाद्य पदार्थों के साथ खाने के लिए कहा है. मांसोदनं के अलावा जो अन्य विशिष्ट खाद्य पदार्थ बताये गए हैं वे हैं: क्षीरोदनं (चावल के साथ दूध), दध्योदनं (चावल के साथ दही), चावल के साथ पानी और चावल के साथ तिल (दलहन). ये सब इतर वेदों में निपुणता प्राप्त करने के लिए बताये गए हैं. इस श्लोक में केवल अर्थववेद में निपुणता प्राप्त करने के लिए मांसोदनं (चावल के साथ मांस) का उल्लेख है. यहीं इस सन्दर्भ में असंगति साफ़ दिखाई देती है.

४. सच तो यह है कि वहां शब्द – माषौदनम्है, ‘मांसौदनम्नहीं. माषएक तरह की दाल है. इसलिए यहाँ मांस का तो प्रश्न ही नहींउठता. आयुर्वेद गर्भवती स्त्रियों के लिए मांसाहार को सख्त मना करता है औरउत्तम संतान पाने के लिए माषसेवन को हितकारी कहता है ( देखें -सुश्रुतसंहिता). इससे ये साफ़ है कि बृहदारण्यक भी वैसा ही मानता है जैसा सुश्रुत में है. इन दोनों में केवल माष और मांस का ही फर्क होने का कोई कारण नहीं.

५.फिर भी अगर कोई माष को मांस ही कहना चाहे, तब भी मांस तो गूदे‘ ( pulp) को भी कहते हैं सिर्फ गोश्त (meat) को ही नहीं.प्राचीन ग्रंथों में मांस अर्थात गूदा के ढेरों प्रमाण मिलते हैं – चरकसंहिता देखें, वहां शब्द हैं – आम्रमांसं = आम का गूदा,खजूरमांसं = खजूर कागूदा. तैत्तरीय संहिता २.३२.८ – दही, शहद और धान को मांस कहता है.

६. मोनिअर विलियम्स का कोष उक्षा अर्थात सोम और ऋषभ (जिससे अर्षभ शब्द बना) दोनों को औषधीय पौधा बताता है. ऋषभ का वैज्ञानिक नाम Carpopogan pruriens है. चरक संहिता १.४-१३, सुश्रुत संहिता ३.८ और भावप्रकाश पूर्ण खंड भी यही कहते हैं.

७. अर्षभ (ऋषभ) और उक्षा दोनों का अर्थ बैल है और बछड़ा नहीं. तो एक ही बात बताने के लिए पर्यायवाची शब्दों का उपयोग क्यों किया जायेगा?  (यह कहना ऐसा ही है जैसे ये कहना कि, तुम या तो चावल खाओ या भात खाओ). स्पष्ट ही दोनों शब्दों के अर्थ अलग हैं. और क्योंकि अन्य सभी श्लोक जड़ी-बूटी और दलहनों का उल्लेख करते है, ये शब्द भी इसी ओर इंगित करते हैं.

आरोप ९ : महाभारत वन पर्व २०७ में राजा रन्तिदेव के यज्ञों में बड़ी संख्या में गायों के वध का वर्णन आता है.  

उत्तर: हम पहले ही स्पष्ट कर चुके हैं कि वेद और अन्य शास्त्रों में यदि कहीं विरोध हो तो वेद ही प्रामाणिक माने जायेंगे. महाभारत मिलावटों से इतना दूषित हो चुका है कि उसे प्रमाण मानना भी मुश्किल हो गया है. और महाराजा रन्तिदेव के महलों में गोहत्या के झूठे आरोप का खंडन दशकों पहले ही कई विद्वान कर चुके हैं.

१. महाभारत के अनुशासन पर्व ११५ में राजा रन्तिदेवका नाम कभी मांस न खाने वालों राजाओं में है. यदि उनके महल गोमांस से भरेरहते थे तो उनका नाम मांस न खाने वालों में कैसे आया

२. मांस का मतलब हमेशा मीट या गोश्त ही नहीं होता – यह भी सिद्ध हो चुका है.

३. जिस श्लोक में गोमांस का आरोप लगाया गया है – उस के अनुसार प्रतिदिन २००० गौएँ मारी जाती थी, इस हिसाब से एक वर्ष में ७,२०,००० से भी अधिक गौओं का वध होता था ? क्या ऐसे श्लोक पर यकीन करना बुद्धिसंगत है?

४. महाभारत का शांति पर्व २६२.४७ – गाय या बैल के हत्यारे को महापापी घोषित करता है. एक ही पुस्तक में यह विरोधाभास कैसे?

५.  दरअसल, इन श्लोकों को भ्रष्ट करने का श्रेय राहुल सांकृतायन जैसे महापंडित को है. वे अपनी वेद निंदा के लिए जाने जाते थे. उन्होंने महाभारत द्रोणपर्व ६७ के प्रथम दो श्लोकों से सिर्फ तीन पंक्तियों को ही उद्धृत किया और जानबूझ कर एक पंक्ति छोड़ दी. द्विशतसहस्र का अर्थ उन्होंने दोहजार किया है – जो कि गलत है. इस का सही अर्थ दो सौ हजार होता है. इस सेउनके संस्कृत ज्ञान के दर्शन हो जाते हैं. 

इन में से कोई भी पंक्ति गोमांस से सम्बन्ध नहींरखती और अगर जानबूझ कर छोड़ी गयी पंक्ति भी मिला दें तो अर्थ होगा कि राजारन्तिदेव के राज्य में उत्तम भोजन पकाने वाले २००,००० रसोइये थे जोप्रतिदिन अतिथियों और विद्वानों को बढ़िया खाना ( चावल, दालें, पकवान, मिठाई इत्यादि -शाकाहारी पदार्थ ) खिलाते थे. गोमांस परक अर्थ दिखाने केलिए अगले श्लोक के माष शब्द को बदल कर मांस किया गया है. 

६. महाभारत में ही, इस के विपरीत –  हिंसा और गोमांस का निषेध करने वाले सैंकड़ों श्लोक मौजूद हैं. साथ ही, महाभारत गाय के लाभ और उसके उपकार की अत्यंत प्रशंसा भी करता है.

७. मूर्ख लोगों ने बाध्यतेका अर्थ मारना कर दिया – जो कि संस्कृतकी किसी पुस्तक या व्याकरण या प्रयोग के अनुसार नहीं है. बाध्यतेका अर्थहै – नियंत्रित करना. 

अतः: राजा रन्तिदेव के यहाँ गायों का वध होता था  – यह कहीं से भी प्रमाणित नहीं होता. अंत में हम यही कहना चाहेंगे कि विश्व की महानतम पुस्तक वेद और अन्य वैदिक ग्रंथों पर लगाये गए ऐसे कपटपूर्ण आरोपों में अपनी मनमानी थोपने में नाकाम रहे इन बुद्धि भ्रष्ट लोगों की खिसियाहट साफ़ झलकती है.

ईश्वर सबको सद् बुद्धि प्रदान करे ताकि हम सब मिलकर वेदों की आज्ञा पर चलें और संसार को सुन्दर बनाएं. 

This translation has been contributed by Aryabala. The original post in English is available at http://agniveer.com/no-beef-in-vedas-part2/

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204 COMMENTS

  1. bahut sunder jankari mili ….aap ka hridya se abhinandan…ek nivedan kya aap ka google+ per koi page hai..ager nahi hai to kripya banaiye..aur ager hai .page ka naam kya hai..

  2. Dear sir,
    Aap krishan ko bhagwan nai mante par unone geeta ka updesh diya jo ki bahut kuch satya hai or marag darshni hai, Or apna diya roop dikhaya o saab kya tha , Kya ek aam inshaan aisa kar sakta hai, Kya app kar sakte ho

    • ham koi chij maan kar nahi chalte hai ,
      agar shri krishn ji ishvar hote to vah mahabaharat yuddh kyo nahi rok paye in ke saath ke vyaktiyo ne kab unko ishvar kahaa hai yah sab bate baad me failayi gayi hai ! virat rup ka arth kya hai virat vichaar

  3. agniveer tum in logo ko batao to arya egypt se aye the unhi logo ne dharm aur uske vard sab banaye.aur ek bat ye batao ki aryo me arbi bhasha ka itna bada gyata kaun ho gaya hai jo quran ki sahi ayto ka satiq vardan kar sake.mere pyare hindustani bhaiyon in yahudi agento se hoshiyar raho ye ha pyare bharat varsh mein dharm k nam par hindu aur musalmano ko ladane ka kaam kar rahe hai.zara gaur karo in logo ki bato pe.ye log muslim badshao ki kroorta aur barbarta bayan karte hai usse ap logo ko ye andaza hona chaiye ki kyx hamare apke purvaj itne nikamme aur nakara qayar buzdil kamzor sedhe the ki itne zulm aur aorton ki izzat karwa kar chupchap dekhte rahe ye to sarasar jhoot aur makkari hai.agniveer aur uske follower dharmpal aur na ja kitne log itihas k tathyo se chedchad kar k logo ki mansikta ko hinsak banane ka kam kar rahe hai.aur akhir mein ek sawal har aqalmand hindustani se kya ye sambho tha kuch hazar muslim karodo hinduon k upar raj kar sakte wo bhi talwar k bal par wo bhi us pawan dharti par samrat ashok maharana pratap prithwi raj shing aur shiwa ji jaise veer saputo ko paida kiya.quran samajhne walo k allah ka qalam hai na samjho k liye kuch bhi nahi.aur ek bat jitne bhi aryans hai wo kabhi yahudio k khilaf nahi bolte.q ki wo inke boss hai.baki sab ap logo ki mansikta par nirbhar.jai hind jai bharat.

  4. @anti-agni
    Why are u talking so stupidly? How it make difference who received first Brhama or Rishies. Veda do not force you to believe in all these things otherwise Allah will punish you eternally. Though, I think Brahma was the first man who learned Veda from Rishies. Our main motto is to find what is truth. Suppose I learned Earth is egg shaped & I have understood it completely, can prove before others scientifically. Name of the person who first learned earth is egg shaped should not be issue for us but it is knowledge we came to know that earth is egg shaped.

  5. @sanatani. why are you always in hurry to post the comment? read veda section of agniveer, he has written that first Brahma read veda and then taught to rishis is right and first rishi received then taught to Brahma also right. ie nothing is clear.

  6. Hey, Aryasamaji/Hindu/Cristian/Idol worshiper You are worst of people. My lord Allah will punish you in eternal hellfire for not worshiping him. Prophet came in 7th century to teach us how to live, how to worship Allah. But you people always abuse my prophet. You people can not escape from the wrath of Allah.

  7. @jay. it is proved that moolshanar has not used any authentic translation of Quran of any muslim scholar because you can’t name the translator.

    If moolshankar had used unauthorized translation of Quran without giving name of translator then why only Muslims are expected to use only aryasamadhis translation? islamhinduism never do translation themselves but they always use available translations.

    • Anti-logic again you refuse to answer the question. Your boy refuses to debate mahendera pal arya. mahendera pal arya repeated requested to debate the retard that has pubes for a beard and he refuses. Instead he uses fake arya samaj guys that were kicked out of Arya samaj as his tools. mahendera pal arya also defeated naik’s guru and that fool refuses to come to the aid of his guru. What a total fool with no loyalties. I guess that is what your religion teaches you, save your own ass when you see your guru’s ass handed to you, lol. It’s been proven by Arya Samaj and mahendera pal arya that many of the translations and false verse that naik uses are just that false translations or non-existent verse. And now you just like naik run away from the fact the dog has been challenged over and over again and he can’t face a real debater like mahendera pal arya how knows his facts. And I have noticed you behave the same way you pussy.

      • krishnirai, ZN is not my boy and he has said that i’ll debate with a person who can atract minimum 10000 peoples otherwise every tom dick can challenge him. aryasamaji refuse everything so no one can debate with aryasamadhi fools.

        you first read MP arya ko jawab at islamhinduism and tell us why he said ajajjel and why he said that Allah ordrd satan to bring dust? every point has been refuted still you have so much arrogance?

        when tariq abdullah said ved nindak ko kaat daal then one aryasamaji said that veda means knowledge and truth but same time MP arya uses yajurveda and samveda to explain concept of God in veda???? you reject everything now your revised-Maharishi is All-sin????

        i have challenged Mp arya to debate with me on the topic “is non-veg food prohibited or permitted for human” but coward can never debate. we hay many students of Zn to debate with MP arya on this topic but first aryasamaji MP arya should declare his faith and authentic book whose he believe and we can refer.

      • @Anti-Agni
        ________you first read MP arya ko jawab at islamhinduism_________
        This is fraud websites. They have banned me many times at least 20 times. That is the problemwith Muslims when they fail to answer logically they ban who counter their frauds.

      • @Anti-Agni
        ______________aryasamaji refuse everything so no one can debate with aryasamadhi fools_________
        Are u fool? Who told you Veda follower refuse everything? They have their own ideology based on Veda.
        Why not u read their article
        Lets truly enjoy! – Ishopanishad Mantra 1
        http://agniveer.com/ishopanishad-mantra-1/

      • hello anti agni i have aquestion for you did willam campell bring 10,000 people from his side? and we dont reject everything how many times do i have to tell you, why do you muslims keep repeating same lies all the time? and that islamhinduism website is nonsense you call that answer? and veda is rig,sam,atharva and yajur veda and if you want to debate about non veg food prohibited or permtted for human why not debate with me? mahendera pal arya cares abuot truth not fame he wants blind followers of zakir naik and peace tv to see the truth about islam like he did

      • anti-logic, there you go again with your utter nonsense.

        and I quote you, “minimum 10000 peoples otherwise every tom dick can challenge him”
        – This is total bullshit. THis is what you call a pussy running away. I’m sorry, but I don’t buy that fake excuse. naiks guru had already debated mahendra pal arya. So mahendra pal arya is not any tom, dick or harry. So stop defending naik the fool. Naik guru has already debated him, so now naik needs to step up to the challenge. Espically after his guru was so utterly crushed by mahendra pal arya.

        And even more important, naik still has not addressed the fact that he used a phony Arya Samaj guy acting as the present of Arya Samaj. Why did naik use a fake?????(This is where you come up with a clever bullshit answer to address this question.) And if Naik didn’t know he was a fake, he sure does now and he needs to apologize to Arya Samaj organization, it’s people, and the large Hindu community for using a fake. Naik instead has not made to public state about using a fake Arya Samaj person and trying to mislead people. So sorry bud, but you have no bases for any of the things you said. Your boy which you keep defending like he is a god, even after he has been proven to use fake people, and cherry picked quotes, or even non-existence quotes. If this is what you believe is representing your religion, you have really shown that your religion is total and utter trash.

      • your right but abdullah tariq is not guru of zakir naik but just a speaker on peace tv zakir naik guru was ahmed deedat

      • Hi HInduagnostic,

        That might be the case, but at the end, my point still stands. mahendra pal arya has challenged the retard naik and has beaten a prominent speaker on retard naik’s tv show. And it has been shown that a false arya samaj guy fashioning himself as the president of Arya Samaj was shown on to be just that, a phony. And naik used the fool to try and push is bullshit cause. This just shows he uses a fake and knows that he is a fake, it shows the character of naik the loony crazy bin. It also shows the character of the people supporting naik and/or his tv show. It means they support phonies, manipulation, trickery, propaganda, and horrible practices to push there crooked twisted agenda. It just shows they can no longer be trusted. Anti-agni clearly showed he still supports naik even after the fact that the arya samaj guy naik was using turned about to be a fake. What does that show about anti-agni. It shows he is a person with ZERO character.

        For the sake of argument, let’s say naik did not know the Arya Samaj guy he was using was a fake. Well he does know now. What does that mean. It means naik should have given an apology to the Arya Samaj organization, Arya Samaj people, and the greater Hindu community. He out right insulted a billion people worldwide.

        Best,
        Krishnarao

      • yes your right but i just wanted to show you the truth that abdullah tariq was not the guru of zakir naik just another speaker in the team of zakir naik annd peace tv

  8. @jay. i already told you that aryasamadhi is a cult or group of peoples who are working against Muslims in India so i am against them. all sin is an Iranian Christian and i have nothing to do with him but aryasamadhis copy in wholesale from ff and all sin.org.

    yousuf and pickthal translated in English and moolshankar quoted in hindi so ur answer is wrong.

    • @ Anti-Agni,
      You said
      ” regarding Vedic society is to show that veda can’t be practical solution”

      Well Prove it then.
      But remember Islam is the worst creation of Man.
      1)Allah rewards his followers with 72 virgins in Heaven , Is he running a brothel? Then what about women ?

      2)Allah sends his non-believers to hell ? Well, what is the difference between Allah and Hitler ?

      3)Mohammed was a Sex freak , child molester ,Had intercourse with his daughter in law , looted places………And you muslims consider him as a Prophet .

      4)You people say that Islam is tolerant , then why don’t you allow Temples or Churches in Islamic Countries ? Why do you tag a muslim convert as traitor ? Why do you have internet censorship in Middle East?

      5)You say Islam is peaceful , then why do you kill animals and eat ? Why do you have Jihad ?
      I know you would say Jihad means Struggle .It is saving yourself at the times of war . Well it IS HUMAN INSTINCT TO PROTECT HIMSELF DURING A WAR , WHY DO YOU NEED GOD TO SEND A MESSAGE FOR IT? I mean going by You fellow muslim’s definition of Jihad , Jihad has been there for centuries before Quran was revealed . This comes us to two conclusions
      a) Quran is a useless book because it mentions something which was already known to man for 1000’s of years (or)
      b) You muslims Are following Taqqiya and conceal the original meaning of Jihad (All said and done ,Now the world knows what true islam is )

      6)Why do you make women wear Ninja Suits ?? I mean how can you call that as equality ?
      Now your argument is that Women should not attract men ..Blah….Blah , But you forgot the FACT THAT EVEN WOMEN HAVE SEXUAL ATTRACTION TOWARDS MEN , IN THAT CASE EVEN YOU SHOULD WEAR PURDHA/HIJAB……….

      7)Sharia Law is the most Barbaric Law I have Ever Read , and you muslims want it as official law!!

      8)Which religion actually permits lying for spreading it? And majority of Islam today has been spread by the word of sword.

      there are million other reasons to show why islam is barbaric,hypocritical ,un-equal ……….
      AND YOU WANT TO PROVE THAT VEDAS ARE IMPRACTICAL…..
      MAN GET A LIFE….. Come out of your madarasa Education !!!!

      • @aditya. you are no less than your aryasamadhis fellow in foolishness. i have asked you to show any Vedic society which was based on Vedic principles and you were unable to show so it was proved that no society can be based on veda.

        in my first comment i have asked about Vedic society then you were helpless then in in second comment i have said that question regarding Vedic society is to prove that no society can be based on veda. I have already proved but your pathshala mindset can never allow you to understand simple things.

        what about Quran’s translation used in satyarthprakaah? Which Muslims translation he had used? Why you can’t name? Why this double standard? islamhinduism use vedamu. web or aryasamaj jamnagar or give reference .

      • @anti-agni
        _____________what about Quran’s translation used in satyarthprakaah_________
        Firstly, why are u mad for Satyarth Parkash? In this age we have much better Islamic scholar like Ali Sina who has greater knowledge about Islam even than Maharishi Dayanand & all contemporary people. We can visit alisina and faithfreedom etc. Reading 14th chapter of Satyarth Parkash does not serve any purpose for Muslim but if they read Ali Sina and refute him they can have chances of winning 100000 USD also.

        http://mostintolerantreligion.com/2012/12/12/muhammad-the-lord-of-allah/
        Muhammad:- The Lord of Allah

        Muhammad indeed was the God of Allah, and not the other way round.

        Lets start with Quran 66:1, which says:-

        O Prophet, why do you prohibit [yourself from] what Allah has made lawful for you, seeking the approval of your wives? And Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.

        The above verse was revealed on occasion when Muhammad had sex with Mary the Copt, on the day he was supposed to be with his wife Hafsa. When he was caught red handed by Hafsa, he falsely swear that Mary is forbidden for him. But still he lusted for Mary and other concubines. On this occasion we see, how Muhammad’s own creation quickly came in to rescue his Lord, and revealed a verse to help him. Can anybody suggest me any other God who personally checks all such personal and private matters of his Prophet. Is there any?

      • @sanatani, what a foolish reply..hahahah

        hatemongers have double standards, ask translators of veda from islamhinduism and ZN and helpless to identify translator for samhullash 14.

      • What is a vedic Society?
        A vedic society is a society which gives freedom to think and act as long as it is immoral. It is a society which does not impose anything on you .It does not punish you if you are different in your ideas. It is a society which is more spiritual , kind and forgiving .
        Now India’s golden period was during the Vedic era. India reached its height of intellectual and material wealth because of the vedic society. It gave rise or new religions like Buddhism and Jainism .Many intellectual achievements hapenned during vedic period .

        And I have done a couple of paper presentations on Vedic society in my college . The best example to prove how India Actually had Vedic society can be seen from the Mahakavyas (Great literary works in Sanskrit).
        And I have completely read Kalidasa’s Raghuvamsam and it matches the Vedic society .

        And I did not see your comment , otherwise I would have replied earlier .

        And your last set of Questions are interesting .
        You have to understand the difference between Sanskrit and Arabic.
        Vedic sanskrit is taught only in Veda Patashalas but Classical Arabic is taught in many Schools and Universities .And Quran is supposed to be understood to every Normal Muslim .So the acid test cannot be applied to Quran because Quran is in Classical Arabic which can be understood by many muslims and Normal Beings. But that is not the case for vedas. Even Ph.d’s in Classical sanskrit cannot translate the vedas, you need to be proficient in vedic Sanskrit to translate. Now if you have found any TRANSLATIONAL errors in Satyaprakash, why don’t you point it out . If there is any intentional error , I would recommend the Arya Samaj’s to make the necessary changes .

      • @Anti-Agni
        _________show any Vedic society which was based on Vedic principles_________
        Every society more or less follower of Veda. Even Muslim society are follower of Veda. for Example In Muslim Society
        1. Marrying with real sister not allowed in Muslims (This is based on Veda)
        2. In Muslim Society God is one , all Powerful, omniscient and formless (This is based on Veda)
        3. In Muslim also people know earth rotate around the sun. (This is based on Veda)
        How can you say Muslims are not followers of Veda? Veda are eternal & universal truths. That is different matter they are less followers of Veda than Christian and Hindus.

    • arya samaj grew because of you muslims and christians because you were spreading hatred and lies and most hindus were not doing anything about it just like now when zakir naik,peace tv and other muslim preachers are spreading lies about hinduism and other beliefs, arya samaj has done more for the good of indian subcontient than muslims or christians have and arya samaj is not cult unlike islam and ali sina is not christian but he is more against islam than christianity is and i didnt say dayand saraswati used yusuf ali,pickthall english translation i said his translation was similar to the translation by islamic scholors there is not much differencesexcept in reference because of printing so it can be accepted and islamhinduism dont use authentic translation they make own translation or they use western translation when indian subcontient was ruled by british or mixture of both to support their views

  9. Anti-logic answer a simple question: Why has your boy, foolio naik, refust to debate mahendera pal arya even when mahendera pal arya asked to debate him since 2004? Why is your boy so scared?

      • Hi Jay Arya, You might be right. He might just be a Vedic preacher, but he is very knowledgeable about the Vedas and other religions as well. Lots of respect to the man. He totally crushed the guru of Naik in a debate.

    • @krishna rao and aditya, who is ved nindak?

      arysamji reject everything when debated so debating with aryasamadis will be fruitless .

      • @Anti-Agni
        _____who is ved nindak___
        The people are against humanity are Ved Nindak. First you should know what is Veda? Veda are eternal & universal truths. If something is not true, eternal & universal is not Veda.

  10. i think your mistaken hindu dont see the animals as god but see god in them hindu believe god is everywhere and i told you ali sina isnt a prophet santana dharma is being sarcastic he is trying to make you see reality on how can you believe an arab illterate man as you claim as a prophet? and you say some ali and aminriasdh are refuting ali sina after you are muslim and you muslims always like to make fake victories if they answered and refuted ali sina show me where?

  11. @sanatani. i have seen your comments at all-sin you seem to be so pathetic even all sin replied that i am not Hindus prophet, hindu believe every donkey monkey as their god. it is not good to be Indian god. hahaha

    aminriadh, ali, rainbow constantly challenging him to show the proof but he is not showing any proof. an atheist rainbow very well said tthat you can’t debate with a true and perfect liar. all sin is supporting hatred and lies and his most followers are Indian Hindus .

    i don’t know how could you say that no Muslim is able to refute all sin when ali and aminriasdh continuously ripping his armugents apart?

    • @Anti-Agni
      Have you not read, Ali Sina said Hindu are more advanced in their mental evolution than Muslims.
      Ali Sina words

      “You are a follower of Muhammad. You\’ll do anything that he said. You don\’t have an opinion contrary to his. You don\’t think for your own and if any thought of your goes against what Muhammad said you dismiss that thought immediately. Hindus don\’t denigrate themselves to such an extent, not even for their gods. They think for themselves and pick and choose things that make sense to them. If something in their religion does not make sense to them they are free to discard it. I\’d say they are more advanced in their mental evolution than Muslims. “

    • The curx of the matter is not the rip apart an individuals arguments, the point is ISLAM theology should be defensible , rest all individual discourses are immaterial.

      • @Ankur/Anti-Agni
        Islamic theology is indefensible. When I asked to Anti-Agni Islam and Quran not from Allah because an eternal, perfect, unchangeable & universal entity (Allah) teachings must be eternal, perfect, unchangeable and universal but Quran does not stand before these conditions.
        Anti-Agni gets silent and tries to deviate the topic by bringing other things in middle.

      • Yeah ! That is islam style ,change the topic when you are being defeated .Same here I asked him what translation of vedas Muslims and ZN use and he replied that “A translation from your fellow hindu Pundit ” and I asked him which book and who was the author and I said that I would check it with the original book and He was cornered and he could not reply at all.

      • I agree i have realised muslims in debates speak loud and harshly when they cant answer they change topic and they also many times they agree with what quran says but then they try to deviate and say your book also says the same thing you call that refuting? but the main thing they bring in debates is the challenge of the quran to make sura like it and i have seen many make a sura like it but the problem muslims dont accept and still believe it is unanswered for the last 1400 years thats not true at all

    • Well Anti-Agni, I asked you a question and you seem to be cornered. You said that you use the translation of a “A fellow Hindu Pundit”. I asked you what book and Author Name and you did not reply .
      Do you think we are fools like muslims who beleive blindly .
      Now I want the translation what you muslims and Zakir Naik use.
      I will compare it with a copy of the book and see if you are lying or not.
      I am pretty sure that you can’t reply!!

      • @aditya. Can you show me where i have used any translation? i never give any example from veda because still it is not clear what is veda? i have seen at islamhinduim site that they give reference and translator name. i am not cornered you are cornered because you haven’t identified any translation which is accepted by whole hindu samaj..if there are many then can we not use any?

        you are ignorant hindu according to aryasamadhis because you believe in adulterated books like puranas so you have no moral right to speak from aryasamadhis side.

        you can see many aryasamajis postings many lines from veda but never give any reference of translator. then why should i bound to show?

      • @ankur, any person believing in puranas can’t be aryasamaji so you are not aryasamaji.

        can you tell us which translator’s translation of quran dayananda had used in satyarth prakash samhullash 14(please dont say that i have nothing to do with satyarth prakash or dayanda as all aryasamaji rejects everything while asked any question.)

        can you show me any vedic society in history? can you identify any translation of veda acceptd by all hindus? which english translation your fellow aryasamaji use at this site?

      • @Anti-agni : where does Purana come into picture? what does me being an aryasamji or not have to do with anything?
        One of the accepted translations of the vedas is available in the agniveer store. besides why do i need a specific translation in English when i can read the translation in Hindi and then i put it back in English.

        One thing we have to understand Dayanand or Satya Prakash is not the topic of Debate; its Islam.so if you want to answer , answer the questions raised showing the true face of Islam, if you can.
        Leave the individuals out of it.

        Store.agniveer.com

      • i told you dayanand saraswatis translation was similar to islamic scholors like yusuf ali and pickthall only some references were incorrect but the verses exist in the quran as for translation of vedas i answered you but you dont seem to read to my comments?

      • If you don’t know what is veda , You either know about it and then debate people here or don’t come here. You don’t know what veda is and You are against Arya Samaj. It is a waste arguing with you. Read the vedas and come here. And that’s the same thing I did with Quran , I did not debate muslims before reading the quran.

        And arya Samaji’s use the translations after verifying it’s authenticity . Eg Pt. Harisharan Siddhantalankar .

        You were the person who said “we refer the translations of your fellow Hindus”.
        If you don’t even know about vedas , how do you know the translations with errors . It is clear that you are a muslim Fanatic
        Well why don’t you name a few books which muslims refer.

        I am not a member of the Arya Samaj ,But I am a voice for their Cause. And even I don’t believe the puranas . For Eg. Garuda Purana speaks about the punishments in Hell , but the vedas say that the term Hell and Heaven is only relative .So I reject the puranas . Do you need more explanation ??

        And your last line shows your motive !! the arya Samajis give the source of their translation .You can Check the translation of the above mentioned Author and Agniveer’s Articles. It will Match .
        Now it is your chance………….

      • @ankur, sorry that q was directed to aditya.
        @aditya. you haven’t given all answers regarding satyarth prakash and English translation. My motive behind asking the question regarding Vedic society is to show that veda can’t be practical solution .

        when anyone ask regarding veda and give reference from those four books then aryasamajis reply that those four books are not veda but truth is veda like Newton had got veda of gravity. etc but still agniveer is selling those four books in the name of veda?

        So what is veda is beyond anyone’s understanding. i am here because aryasamadhis spreading hatred against Muslims on net and degrade hazrat Muhammad and Allah swt.
        @krishnaraoi. i have challenged mp arya to debate with me but he has never answered .

      • islamhinduism are fantics they make stupid claims they cant prove like zakir naik they still havent approved my comment and when did we say newton got gravity from vedas? newton was not even the first to talk about gravity and you say you are here because arya samaj spread hatred against muslim do you think arya samaj are the only ones there are so many websites spreading hatred against islam why dont you go refute them we dont only attack islam but also christianity as they are similar but i personally respect jesus but thats it and you challenging mp arya does not mean anything you have not answered anything on here? why would mp arya debate you when he could beat famous muslim preachers in india? and show them the truth and you say believing in puranas means you cant be arya samaj? who told you that you can believe in puranas to certain externt not fully

  12. CLERIC’S OPINION

    MUSLIM CLERIC LIKENS WOMEN TO UNCOVERED MEAT

    .Sheik Taj Din al-Hilali, the nation’s most senior Muslim cleric, compared unveiled women with meat that is left uncovered in the street and is then eaten by cats.

    In a Ramadan sermon in a Sydney mosque, Sheik al-Hilali suggested that a group of Muslim men recently jailed for many years for gang rapes are innocent.

    Addressing 500 worshippers on the topic of adultery, Sheik al-Hilali added: “If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it..whose fault is it – the cats or the uncovered meat?

    “The uncovered meat is the problem.”

    He went on: “If she was veiled and in her home no problem would have occurred.”

  13. @sanatani, can alu sin not write wrong statements on his web? who is Mr. bhatti? why you believe everything from alusin? you claim that you anaylyse everything and reject falsehood but why you are unable to analyse alu sin’s posts? why are you blind follower of alusin?

    • @Anti Agni/Quran is not from Allah because an eternal, perfect, unchangeable & universal entity (Allah) teachings must be eternal, perfect, unchangeable and universal but Quran does not stand before these conditions.
      _________can alu sin not write wrong statements on his web_________
      No, he can not write wrong statement.
      ______why you believe everything from alusin?_________
      Why do you believe everything from Mohammed?
      _______why you are unable to analyse alu sin’s posts_______
      Why are you unable to analyze to Quran and Mohammed . And In Ali Sina matter he is irrefutable to till date. You also have not dare to post on his website because you know he will refute your nonsense claims within no seconds. From the heart you also know Mohammed , Quran and Islam are false but it is your ego in your way.
      Let us enjoy Ishopanishad Mantra 1
      http://agniveer.com/ishopanishad-mantra-1/

      • @sanatani. Many peoples debating with alu sin on his website and as far as i know he defend Christianism and you blindly copy him .many persons refuting him daily and you are saying he is irrefutable?????

        if someone not accepting the view then how could you say that he is irrefutable? if you keep on rejecting everything every faith every ideology in debate then who can defeat you? But atheism can’t give any sustainable system for this world.

        i have already said that i am not interested in him because he is single person and spreading hatred on net only but aryasamadhis are real threat for India and they are working through out India on ground level . amazing situation is this that they are borrowing points from a pseudo Christian??

        i have full faith in Muhammad s.a.w and in Quran and i also invite you to accept islam.

      • @anti-agni
        ____________i also invite you to accept islam.__________
        But Islam and Quran are not from Allah because an eternal, perfect, unchangeable & universal entity (Allah) teachings must be eternal, perfect, unchangeable and universal but Quran does not stand before these conditions. What is the problem you have in understanding of it
        _________if you keep on rejecting everything every faith every ideology_________
        He do not reject everything he accept ideologies like
        Yajurved 19.77
        – All humans at all times should have passion only for adoption of truth and rejection of falsehood. This should be a continuous process and one should keep detaching faith from what one discovers to be false and keep attaching faith to what one discovers to be true based on analysis, logic, facts and evidence.
        4. Yajurved 1.5
        – All human beings should resolve to accept only truth and reject the falsehood. Even the prayer to Supreme should request only eradication of falsehood and embrace of truth alone.
        Ali Sina believes in this ideology then how can you say he rejects everything?

      • How can you scientifically prove the existence of God Almighty?

        By Dr.Zakir

        The brother has posed a question, how can you scientifically prove the existence of God Almighty, the existence of Allah (SWT) to especially to an Atheist, who does not believe in God. The first thing I will do is that , I will congratulate that Atheist. I will congratulate him – You know why? If you look around us – he is a Hindu because father is a Hindu – He is a Christian because father is a Christian –Some Muslims are Muslims because their fathers are Muslim. This person, though he may be coming from a religious background, he does not believe in the false god which his parents attribute to – so he does not believe in God. I am congratulating him because he has accepted the first word of the ‘Shahada’, the first part of the Islamic creed ‘La Ilaha’ – there is no god. Now my job is to prove ‘Illallah’, ‘but Allah’ – which I shall do Inshaallah. To the other people, I have to first to remove the wrong concept of ‘god’ and then prove the right concept of the Allah (SWT). Here half my job is done. He has already said ‘La Ilaha’ – There is no god. Now I have to prove ‘Illallah’, ‘but Allah’ – which I shall do Inshaallah. You ask this Atheist, that suppose there is an object… an unidentified… may be a flying object which no one in the world has seen – No human being in the world knows about this object.

        If it is brought in front of you, and if you ask that who will be the first person who will be able to tell you the mechanism of this unidentified object, you have to ask him the question. Who is the first person , who will be able to tell you the mechanism of this new object which no one in the world has seen? After thinking for a while, he will give the answer – ‘the person who will be able to tell you the mechanism…the first person, is the Creator of that object’. Some may say ‘Manufacturer’, some may say ‘Producer’. Whatever they say, don’t grapple with the words… accept it – It will be somewhat similar. Either ‘Creator’, or ‘Producer’, or ‘Manufacturer’ – but remember what he has told you – Keep it in your mind.

        Then ask him the next question – How did the Universe come to existence –How was it formed? He will tell you by the Big Bang Theory. Tell him the Qur’an mentions in Surah Anbiya, Ch. 21, V. No. 30, about the Big Bang Theory. Who could have mentioned this in the Qur’an 1400 years ago? – He will tell you… ‘May be it is a fluke’. Don’t argue with him – Next part of the question. We did not know the light of the Moon is reflected light – We came to know recently – You ask him. He will tell you… ‘Yes, yes the light of the Moon is reflected light – it is not its own light’. When we discovered ? He will tell you… ‘Recently, yesterday, fifty years back, hundred years back, yesterday in science’. You tell him, the Qur’an mentioned that – ‘the light of the moon is reflected light’, fourteen hundred years ago. Who could have mentioned that ? May be somebody had a wild guess. Do not argue with him….

        Continue – We thought the sun was stationary. You ask him – Is it stationary ? He will say… ‘ No it is rotating and revolving’. When did you learn this? He will tell you… ‘Yesterday… fifty years back… twenty years back’. Qur’an mentioned this fourteen hundred years ago. He will hesitate, but may say –‘May be, some intelligent person wrote it’. Don’t argue with it…

        Continue. How was the universe initially – What is celestial matter ? He will tell you ‘it was Smoke’. How did you come to know ? ‘We have got proof, we have got evidence’. You tell him… ‘Qur’an mentioned this fourteen hundred years ago’. Who could have mentioned that? –He will hesitate. Don’t wait for a response…

        Continue – Keep on posing question after question. All that I have given in the lecture – Keep on posing one question after the other. That, ‘water cycle’, how did you come to know about it? Qur’an mentioned it fourteen hundred years ago. About – ‘every living thing made from water’ – Who could have mentioned that ? Qur’an speaks about Botany – the ‘male and female’ –Who could have mentioned that ? Pose one after the other and ask the question – ‘Who could have written that’ ? Then you tell him there is a theory known as ‘Theory of Probability’.That if you have two choice, out of which one is right – the chances that you will make the correct choice just at random, is one in two. For example, if I toss a coin it can be either heads or tails – The chances I will be right, will be one in two. If I toss it twice, the chances I will be right both the times, will be 1/2 multiplied by 1/2 that is 1/4. Twenty five percent chance. If I toss it thrice, chances I will be right all three times, 1/2 multiplied by 1/2 multiplied by 1/2, it is 1/8. 12 and 1/2 %. A dice has got six sides. If I throw a dice, the chances that at random I will be correct is 1/6. If I through it twice, the chances that both the times I will be right, will be 1/6 x 1/6 which is 1/36. This is called as ‘Theory of Probability’.

        If I throw the dice twice, and then toss a coin, all three being right will be 1/6 multiplied by 1/6 multiplied by 1/2 is 1/72. So you ask him – the chances may be if you ask – what is the shape of the earth? There are various shapes. Some may say if is flat, some may say its triangular, some may say it is hexagonal, some may say pentagonal, some may say heptagonal, some may say square. Say there can be ten shapes. Some may say it is round, it is spherical – the chances that if any one makes a wild guess, it being correct, is 1/10. ‘The light of the Moon’ – it can either be its own light, or it can be reflected light. The chances that you make a wild guess and it being correct will be one upon two. The chances that both – ‘shape of the earth’ and ‘light of the moon being reflected light’- both being correct, if you make a wild guess – it will be 1/10 multiplied by 1/2, it is 1/20. What can the living creatures be made of ? Some may say ‘Sand’, some may say ‘Stone’, some may say ‘Aluminum’, some may say ‘Gold’ – say a thousand materials you can name. Some may say ‘Water’, some may say ‘Silver’, a thousand materials.

        The chances that you make a wild guess, and one of them being right according to mathematics, is one upon a thousand. The chances that all three being correct – ‘the earth is spherical’, ‘light of the moon is reflected light’, and ‘every living creature created from water’… is correct, will be 1/10 multiplied by 1/2 multiplied by 1/1000. Answer comes to 1/20,000 or 0.005 percent. Qur’an speaks about scientific… science more than a thousand verses. In three verses, the chances comes to .05 percent. If you apply probability theory to all these being at random, chance it will come to zero… negligible. And in Maths – anything one in ten raise to fifty, it is equal to zero. So you ask your Atheist friend… ‘Who could have written this?’ The only answer he can give you is, his first answer – ‘the Creator’, ‘the Manufacturer’. The person who has produced it – That is the only answer. There is no other answer. What Science is saying today is…‘They are not eliminating God… They are eliminating models of god’. La Ilaha IllAllah. They are not eliminating god but models of god

      • @Anti-Agni
        ___________how can you scientifically prove the existence of God Almighty____________
        Only Vedic religion teach us science how to realize God. In Vedic religion concept of god realization inclusive while in Islam this is exclusive.
        This comment will clarify it more clearly
        “The difference is, the abrhamic view is exclusive while the Dharmic experience is inclusive when it comes to the experience of major characters of the faith. And this is probably the most important thing that most abrahamic religions do not understand about Dharmic religions. Many followers of the abrhamic view are caught up so much in history centrism and arguments with historical proofs and ect, but forget the ultimate proof is for us to experience the the same thing the person claiming to make extraordinary achievements and experiences is making. If we can’t experience the same thing and that means to receive the so called word of god for ourselves so we can independently check it for ourselves then the so called prophets are bullshit.”
        http://agniveer.com/noor-e-haq-satyarth-prakash-in-urdu/#comment-18591
        @Agniveer
        Please delete Anti-Agni comment. This forum is for discussion not for long copy paste.

      • hello anti agni first of all there is no science in quran any science you claim is not revealed scuience but stolen science if there is any and there no muslin debating with ali sina most of the people on the site are anti islam people and he isnt defending christianity he probably thinka jesus claimed he was son of god not just a simple prophet like muhammed and bible didnt prophecies muhammed how does that mean im defending christianity it is just that the quran makes claim about the bible that are not true and i can even accept the challenge of making a sura like it but the problem is muslims dont accept then say no body has done challenge in the last 14000 which proves it is word of god which is just a lie made by muslims

  14. @krishna rao, you peoples can never understand simple things which a school going kid can understand. where i said that agniveer is saying i have debated with ZN? i wanted to say as agniveer comments on ZN articles or speeches in same way alu sin vs qadri sb’s debate is looking. what agniveer do, he takes some lines of ZN and comment on that in the same manner alu sin has taken some lines of so called “qadri sb” and commented on that. As far as i have read or watched debates of different scholars it can never be called a debate.

    you never understand simple things and day by day my confidance is growing by seeing your skills of understandings that there is no fault of Moolshankar that he has fooled you but you are a group of fools who can never understand simple things so you have accepted satyarthprakash.

    i hsve to repeat simple things and no aryasamaji understand my or any muslims comment. just see i have understand your comment that you want to say that ZN never accepted aryasamajis challenge for debate because he has no courage to debate with dumb aryasamajis who reject every book every translation every faith when asked any question, so my allegation is wrong.

    if you read carefully i wanted to say that as ZN never debated agniveer (he is not claiming that i have debated) and agniveer commented on ZN articles which can’t be claimed as debate(and agniveer is not claiming) but alusin’s vs qadri debate is same but he is claiming it as debate and fool aryasamajis propagating it as victory of alusin???

    i can post same debate with alusin by just commenting on alusin’s posts and can easily claim thyat he has mailed me how could you verify that he has mailed me or not? debates must have some qualities to be called as debates. you have so much inferiority complex that you can do anything.

    • @fAIZI/ANTI-AGNI/FOLLOWER OF time bound book (Quran)
      Can I know why do you think Ali Sina is not true prophet of Islam? When Prophet Ali Sina was invited to Mubahila by Bhatti to find out the truth. Prophet Ali Sina accepted his invitation and come out to be true. Is it not the proof Ali Sina is correct even in eyes of Allah & his all allegations are true on Mohammed, Quran & Islam.
      For detail story please read whole discussion.
      http://alisina.org/blog/2012/02/17/mubahila-the-islamic-cursing-tournament/

    • Dude!! See, even if Zn debated , he would be defeated badly. Just see this video ,Zakir Naik Guru Abdullah Thariq was defeated badly.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zIujH5R9m0

      Moreover you muslims are so stupid to believe what ZN says about Vedas.
      I can see a lot of misinterpretations of vedas by muslims.My point is what is muslim’s qualification in sanskrit?There are two kinds of sanskrit.One is vedic and another is classical(Mastered and pioneered by panini).The vedic sanskrit was among a few only.From the advent of classical sanskrit,it has been the official and common language.the difference between vedic sanskrit and classical sanskrti is like the difference between Victorian english and american english.Moreover universities nowadays only teach classical sanskrit.Vedic sanskrit is taught only in veda patashalas.Does this mean the muslims who comment on vedas have studied in veda patashalas?Moreover no muslim has done even a diploma in Classical sanskrit,then how can they comment on vedas which were written in vedic sanskrit?This is a conclusive proof that people like Zakir are spreading the wrong messages about the vedas.Moreover I find even educated muslims believing this.If you use logic,you would question what is the source of muslim’s knowledge on vedas.

      You are a fool!! Btw we don’t threaten muslims that they would burn in hell. It is just that YOUR KARMA WAS SO BAD THAT YOU ENDED UP BEING A MUSLIM.

      • @aditya. can. you show me any translation of veda done by vedic pathshala student which is accepted by 100% Hindus and Muslim scholars using different translations?

        We are using translation done by ur fellow Hindus and aryasamaj is neither in majority nor it is oldest sect of Hindus . even aryasamajis reject some translations done by fellow aryasamajis on different topics.

        Sanskrit is dead language no one knows real meaning of veda and you still believe. that ishwara has given eternal guidance for humanity in a language which will become dead? veda to ghareeb ki chadar h sar dhako to pair khul jata h aur pair dhako to sar…..eik meaning loge to kahin phansoge aur doosra loge to kahin.

      • Sorry!! Do you know the meaning of dead Language ??
        Sanskrit has 14,000 native speakers + many families in many Cities and Towns converse in Sanskrit. I speak sanskrit and there are more than 500 families in Chennai which speak sanskrit.
        Just say you don’t know the meaning of vedas. I was in a dilemma when I started to search for a religion and What I found out was interesting . Each and every Scientific Fact given in the quran were already given in the vedas, upanishads and Shastras. You speak about embryology and it was given in Garbha Upanishad .
        And it is interesting to note that More no. of terrorists are muslims and India is the most tolerant country in the world( because of it’s religion)

        back to the topic,
        When we correct ZN, why does he not correct it, because he has 0 knowledge on Sanskrit and we Sanathana Dharmis know sanskrit. Actually both my sanskrit teachers studied at veda patashalas and they themself find it challenging to translate the vedas.

        Btw why don’t you quote the books you people use ?? I mean the “Fellow Hindu Author” ? I would compare it with the original book and see what you are telling is true or you are following TAQQIYA !!!

      • @aditya. you haven’t identfied any veda translation which is accepted by 100% Hindus???? aryasamadhis who claim to be real sanatani believe that puranas and upanishads are corrupted so your source of embryology is not authentic. whenever anyone write any translation of veda he give its source. your claim of upanishad is already rejected by aryasamadhis and you are at aryasamadhis site.

        you have already accepted that only pathshala students know vedic Sanskrit so your claim if Sanskrit speakers is null and void if they are not Vedic pathshala students .

      • Arya Samajis Reject the puranas and Upanishads as long as they contradict the vedas and There is nothing wrong with It. And speaking of Garbha Upanishad, Do you know what a upanishad is ? It means upa- (nearby), ni- (at the proper place, down) and ṣad (to sit) thus: “sitting down near” . Upanishads are in the form of conversations between the Teacher and the student . The conversation is the explanation of the vedic concepts .It is like a teacher giving classroom notes to the students . We will oppose the teacher only if she teaches a concept with errors and this is a scientific approach . So Garbha Upanishad is the explanation of Embryology in Vedas .

        And I asked you a question, You said that we depend on the translation of your fellow Hindu , WELL I ASK YOU AGAIN , NAME THE BOOK AND THE AUTHOR AND I WILL CHECK THE SAME VERSE AND SEE IF YOU ARE LYING.
        NOW DON’T RUN AWAY!!!

      • first understand arya samaj accept all books if it dont go against vedas or dont seem true eg we accept manusmriti and like swami dayand saraswati calculated the age of the universe using the puranas but we still believe it has been changed just like in upanishads and puranas we accept mny things but not all espically not all in the puranas as for good translation of hindu scriptures we only have mahabharta and ramayana as they have been read atleast once by most hindus all other books have not even been read by other hindus we also have many books unlike in religions like islam and christianity where islam has only quran and christians bible all christians and muslim read same holy books but in hinduism all hindus dont so it will be hard to find good translation by scholors but arya samaj read and accept vedas so they know vedas and translation more than all other hindus

  15. @sanatano. you can post his comments but can’t understand rebuttal? if you have nothing to do with him then why you have posted his comments here.

      • that shankacharya and roshanlal arya who zakir naik brought to his conference were not even arya samaj or shankacharya and the guy who zakir claimed to be president of arya samaj when really there is no president of arya samaj he is a fraud claiming to be arya samaj just to get fame and support islam he is fake like swami agnivesh only difference swami agnivesh was in arya samaj but he has been doing things against arya samaj principles not upholding his status so he is no longer in arya samaj

    • @anti-agni
      I have full faith in Islamic Prophet Ali Sina. He is greatest prophet of Islam ever born. He has much greater understanding on Quran and Hadiths even than Mohammed. Mohammad had short term memory. That is why there are many contradiction in Quran. Mohammed was not aware what he told earlier and what he told latter. But Prophet Ali Sina is perfect person who knows every verse of Quran and rejects the contradictory things. Even Allah has sanctioned Ali Sina all allegations on Mohammed, Quran, & Islam. Do you not know when prophet Ali Sina was invited to Mubahila by Mr. Bhatt that wrong one would die within 90 days, Mr. Bhatti & his Muslim supporters invoked Allah curse on Sina. But after 90 days Ali Sina proved to be true because Allah did not do any harm of him. Through Mubahiia Prophet Ali Sina proved his sanctity. ( Mubahila, a Islamic way to find out the truth by cursing each-other, This way is sanctioned by prophet Mohammed in Quran)

  16. @anti-agni
    ___________so i am showing you how he is making you fool________
    Why not post at http://alisina.org/ your disagreements with him. I can see there also. It will be interesting how Ali Sina and his fans react and respond on your comments. You can win 100000 USD dollars also if you post there. He will shut down his website if fails to respond you. Muslim will have not to be humiliated more that they could not meet to ali Sina challange to till date. I am posting at his website also he was in conversation with me.

  17. @sanatani. because you are posting alusin’s comments over here and very much impressed by him. so i am showing you how he is making you fool.

  18. चतुदशिवासु गीयते चशेखरः

    तेन तुयो यदा िवणुः ावायदगते

    षिवषसहािण िवायांजायते कृ िमः

    अथात,चौदहिवाएँिशव कागुणगान करतीह। ज ो ि िवणु को यााक ो िशव के बराबर काबताताह ै, वह इस अपराध के कारण 60हजार वष तक टीकाकीड़ ा बनताह ै । [सौरपुराण 40/15,17]

    यासुदशन TV इन द ोनधमंथ परभीक ोई ोाम चलाएगायानह? इनकापदाफाशकब ह ोगा? याये िहदूदेवी-देवता कावातिवक अपमान नह ?

  19. @jay. why should i bring islamhinduism guy? Read sanatani’s comment in which he called alu sin as prophet and what he has copy pasted fron alu sin’s website.

    do you think that alu sin ever accept his fallacies? have you ever accepted that dayanda was wrong in believing iblis(satan) as Angel and moolshankar never read whole Quran, he relied upon his chelas for translations. you can believe alu sin as your personal saviour and god.

    • This is because you support him dont you? as for santana dharma he once said ali sina is my ideal but i dont think he said ali sina is my prophet if he has please show me? and dayanand saraswati was not wrong the verse clearly says the angel was made to bow to adam and iblis said no blame allah is he doesnt know what he is saying not dayanand allah should have said angels and jins its only when iblis told him the reason why he refuses as allah didnt know that allah got angry threw iblis out of paradise its only then that iblis was considered a jin (satan) before he was just like the angels and of similar rank probably was an angel himself but he was made of fire and nothing is wrong with translation of dayanand saraswati its only reference because of printing problem that they show in the wrong place but if you read the quran by islamic scholors like yusuf ali,marmaduke pickthall etc you will find the verse somewhere in the translation and no i dont believe is god or my saviour he is just an ex muslim dedicating his life to educate muslims about islam

      • @jay. here is alu sin’s debate ss he claim with qadri sb it is same format. Ali Sina Writes:

        (Ali Sina) Since Dr. Naik presented 22 out of many errors of the Bible, let me present a short list of many errors of the Quran for him (or anyone) who cares to respond. All we need to prove that the Quran is not from God is one error while even hundreds of errors in the Bible do not necessarily disqualify it as a message of God.

        My Response:

        WOW ! Hilarious indeed !! One error is sufficient to disqualify the Quran but EVEN HUNDREDS don’t necessarily disqualify Bible from being the word of God. This is turning out to be funny. Great hypocrisy !! Praise the Bible a bit more so that answeringislam team doesn’t despise you for copying from their site. (I’ll show you later how he copies from answeringislam)

        Ali Sina Writes:

        1. Verse 21:33 says the sun and the moon yasbahun. This means both of them navigate or rotate around the earth and not around their own axis as Dr. Naik has claimed.

        My Response:

        The sun and the moon both revolve as well as rotate around their own axis. As Dr.Zakir Naik explained.

        “The Arabic word used in the Qur’an is ‘Yasbahoon’, which describes the motion of a moving body. When it refers to a celestial body, it means it is rotating about its own axis”

        How did Ali Sina conclude that they rotate and navigate around the earth?? No where does the Quran say such a thing. This means that they both rotate around their own axis as well as they revolve.

        It indicates that both of them “rotate” as well as “revolve”.

        The word “Yasbahoon” is derived from the word “sabaha” which describes the motion of a moving body. If its in water. It means “to swim” if it is on ground it means “to walk/run” when it is talking about a celestial body it means “to rotate” or “to revolve”

      • @anti-agni
        If you have disagreement why not refute ali Sina at his website http://alisina.org/
        BTW what you think about Mubahila, Islamic way to find out the truth. Ali Sina is not wrong as it is proven to us. Allah also agree with Ali Sina views. Do you not know when Bhatti invited Prophet Ali Sina to Mubahila to find the truth. Finally, after 90 days Ali Sina come out to be true and his allegation on Mohammed were proved true & Allah sanctioned this.

      • Ali Sina Writes:

        5. Dr. Naik said that Islam is for all mankind. I showed that in verses 6:92 and 42:7 Muhammad said that he had come for the people of Mecca and its surrounding and in verses 32:03 and 36:6 he said that he was sent to people other than those who had already received divine guidance. According to these verses Muslims must stop propagating their faith in the Christian West.

        My Response:

        Ali Sina here again quotes the verses and mispresents them. Both the verses 6:92 and 42:7 say “Mother of cities and All Around her”

        ALL around her means the full world. Mecca is the centre of the world and ALL around it is the full world. The verses of the Quran do not prove that Islam is only for Arabs Alone.

        Suppose if I say “Centre of the circle and all around it” what does that imply? It means the full circle. Similarly Mecca is the centre of the world. When the Quran says “Mother of cities and ALL around her” it is referring to the full world.

        And in other two verses Allah is saying that he has sent Muhammad (pbuh) to admonish the people to whom no guidance has come before. Does it say that “admonish only those people to whom no Warner had been sent”?? Definitely not !!! Allah (SWT) sends his final messenger, which is for the whole of humanity from those people, to whom a messenger had not been sent before.

        Most of the Translations translate the word ‘nas’ as ‘mankind’ in the verses which Dr.Zakir Naik quoted i.e 14:52,2:185 and 39:41. But even if Ali Sina doesn’t agree. Still other verses prove that Quran is for entire humanity. Nowhere does the Quran say that it is only for the Arabs. He deliberately mispresented the verses he quoted to prove that.

        More verses confirming Quran to be for entire humanity

        “Blessed be He Who sent down the criterion (of right and wrong, i.e. this Quran) to His slave (Muhammad SAW) that he may be a warner to the Alameen (mankind and jinns).” (Quran 25:1)

        “But it is nothing less than a Message to all the worlds.” (Quran 68:52)

        “Verily this is no less than a Message to (all) the Worlds:” (Quran 81:27)

        “And no reward you (O Muhammad SAW) ask of them (those who deny your Prophethood) for it, it(the Quran) is no less than a Reminder and an advice unto the Alameen (men and jinns).” (Quran 12:104)

        The word used in the above 4 verses is “Alameen” meaning “worlds”.

      • hello anti agni and yes finally i saw santana dharma claiming ali sina as a prophet but you need to understand he is being sarcastic he is trying to say if muslims can believe muhammed was a prophet why cant we believe ali sina is a prophet? as for ali sina vs maulana ajmal qadri on ali sina.org i dont see what you claim ali sina wrote? nowhere does ali sina bring up zakir nak in the debate? where are you getting what ali sina wrote?

      • @jay. how many times you want me to repeat the same thing?

        i wanted to say that as agniveer never debated with dr. zakir but he has mny dissections or analyse the zn’s articles. what he do which you can’t understand he take some lines of zn and comment according to his will. it can never be called debate and alu sin v ajmal qadri debate is same

        .no normal person can say it debate.

        if you want to see how debate happens just read zn vs rashmibhai bhai or xn vs william Campbell or search on you tube deedat vs anis sorrhosh.

        i always understand what you want tio say but you peoples always ask explanations or you understand in wrong way. you can evaluate your reasoning powr and understanding of religions.

      • YOu are such a fool anti-agni(aka retard). Arya Samaj has requested to debate with naik the dumb ass a bunch of times, but he refuses to debate with Arya Samaj. Instead that idiot used a person who used to part of Arya Samaj and was kicked out because of gambling, drinking, and sleeping around. It just shows that naik relates only with scum bags and he himself is a scum bag. Your boy refuses to debate with people who are the real deal instead looks for some fakes just so he can try and falsely impress people. YOU ARE A FOOL TO FOLLOW THAT RETARD. AND IT MAKES YOU A RETARD.

      • agniveer never said he had debate with zakir naik he wants to have debate with zakir naik even answering islam and ali sina have sent invitions for debates but zakir naik doesnt accept instead zakir naik chooses his people who knows he can beat eg ravi shankar who isnt a scholor or pandit of any scripture even then that wasnt even a debate it was a religious diaglogue to make peace but zakir naik acts like refuted ravi shankar and willam campell isnt a scholor or apologist he is just a christian missionary that attacked islam and ahmed deedat he is somebody muslims to like say beat christiasn but the truth is he didnt have debates with scholors or hebrew knowing people his debate with anis shrosh was famous because he could speak arabic ahmed deebat only had debates with preachers and missionaries and few christian apologists like josh mcdoewell like jay smith there are only few good muslims apologists/preachers that are good so dont follow people like IERA,peace tv etc espically not muslim preachers they know nothing

      • also you have not answered anything and you havent told me why i could not find what you said ali sina said is not there?

  20. brother darshan how can u say in theory and not in practice ?
    if u know hindi plz reply in hindi my english is weak.

  21. Quran inherited many things from Vedas but only in theory and not in practice. If hindu name after Ved is Ved Prakash, Zaved and Naved are likewise inheritance from Vedas.

    • brother darshan how can u say in theory and not in practice ?
      if u know hindi plz reply in hindi my english is weak

  22. to all non muslim brothers & sisters
    aap sabhi ye to samaj gaye honge ki kuran shareef k mutabik kewal ek khuda ki ibaadat karni chahiye
    aur akhiri nabi mohammad s.a.w. ko manna chahiye aur nek kaam karne chahiye

    agar ab bhi aap ic se inkar karte he to kayamat ke din se darye
    dozakh me bahut hi buri yatnaye he
    aur ye zingi ham sabhi ke liye ek imtihan he.
    ye zindgi hamesha rahne wali nahi.

  23. @sanatani. i think you are totally out of order. why should i prove alusin wrong if he doesn’t have any faith any stand any truth? Why you want to be written thousand times. i challenge alusina or any aryasamaji to prove me wrong and condition is that i’ll play role of atheist. i challenge alusina that prove there God exists .

    it is very amazing situation that agniveerya and aryssamaji ideology deny any need of prophets but you believe that alusina is your prophet. hahaha

    it is like budhus that budha always rejected idols and idol worship and now budhists have gautam bydha’s idol in every budhist temple.

    every agniveersamaji believe that alusina is aryasamajis prophet.

    • @anti-agni
      ___________is that i’ll play role of atheist__________
      Who said you Islamic Prophet Ali Sina in an atheist. Islamic Prophet Ali Sina is believer in God but not believer in Allah. Here is Prophet words

      “Now, you can believe in God, but know that he is not sending any messages via third persons. The message of God is in every atom in this universe. It is all around you and the key to understanding His message is through science.

      God does not play favoritism and does not speak to any person more than others. His message is universal and for everyone. You can understand the message of God just as fine as anyone else. You don’t have to follow anyone. Observe the universe with inquisitiveness and scientific mind and you will see the message of God all around you. As a Persian poet said, every leaf of every tree is a book of the knowlege of God.”
      http://alisina.org/blog/2011/07/28/what-if-god-exists/

      The problem is not the belief in God. The problem starts when some individulas claim to be messengers of God. Then they demand obedience and submission and all they do is mislead people with their lies and cause disunity and hate. Nothing divides mankind more than religion.

  24. @anti-agni
    Hello brother, here is offer for you
    Prophet Ali Sina words/Massage for the people like you
    “I am open for debate and I have even offered $50,K to anyone who can prove me wrong. If you are not a scholar encourage one and if he wins I give $50 k dollars to each one of you.

    Muhammad instead ran away from logic. He would say don\’t argue with others because they will not believe it anyway, just kill them.

    It really takes very stupid people to believe in that freaking murderer, the worst man ever born, the very personification of devil and the only person that would make Hitler look like a good person. “

    • @anti-agni
      Muslim are brainwashed by their Mullaz. They are not able to understand anything. They live in dreams where Jinn, angle, 72 hoors, prophets, miracle exist but in real world there is no place for such things.

      • @sanatani. aryasamajis are dumbest peoples fooled by moolshankar lcan’t understand simple things and most notorious example is you yourself .
        You are so dumb that moolshankar died explaining there is no need of prophets but you say ali sinna is aryasamajis prophet? hahaha

      • we didnt say ali sina was our prophet and you ask ‘why should i prove alusin wrong if he doesn’t have any faith any stand any truth?’ this is because has many claims about islam and muhammed why dont you refute him and show him his claims are wrong? as for buddha he didnt say idol worship is wrong you muslims need to start to stop acting like you understand eastern beliefs you people know nothing you people look at eastern beliefs with abrahamic view it is too deep for you to understand buddhists dont believe in a god they dont worship buddha they do devotional mediation they have statue of buddha but they dont worship the statue of buddha if any buddhists do i dont know why he never said he was god or talking about god

      • @jay. yoy just read following comment of sanatani..don’t you understand English? you can read. ” @anti agni hello .
        …… propht ali sina words/message “?????

        Bro these things happens when you wonder in the darkness of philosophies, everything can’t be true.

      • @jay. yoy just read following comment of sanatani..don’t you understand English? you can read. ” @anti agni hello .
        …… propht ali sina words/message “?????

        Bro these things happens when you wander in the darkness of philosophies, everything can’t be true.

      • Hi Jay,

        Anti-agni really is a little girl. The guy has been proven that his crazy desert religion is made up, and his religion is a joke. And now he runs around like a maniac throwing suicide temper tantrums. He needs to stop pouting when he gets demoted like the little fool he is. I have clearly shown evidence as to how ridiculous his religion is.

        Here is the strange story of the cow:
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3iPFN9l3Us

        It basically says to go find a cow. Sacrifice it. And cut a piece of it out. And hit a murder victim with that piece of cow. And that murder victim will tell you who is the murderer. Yeah, that was my reaction too. The muslims believe this really happened. I mean seriously, who the hell is so F**ken stupid to believe this really happened. And if it is true, we should arm every police officer in the world with a piece steak. And that way there will never be an unsolved murder. This really has to be the biggest joke in the world. I ask everyone to actually watch this video and see how stupid this story is.

      • @krishnarao. when have no answer then you start scolding others . many aryasamaji accepted that ali sina is their prophet and you are refuting me??

      • @anti-agni
        Why Ali Sina can not be prophet of Islam? He deserve to be called prophet of Islam. He has better understanding of Quran, hadiths than other Islamic people like Mohammed and other scholars of Islam. He is irrefutable to till date. No Muslim scholar dare to debate with him? He even claims to give 100000 USD dollars if someone proves him wrong and shut down his site permanently.
        Veda, a way of living (Ishopanishad Mantra 1)
        http://agniveer.com/ishopanishad-mantra-1/

      • which arya samaji clearly said ali sina is our prophet? why you taking it literally if that ever was mentioned my friend you are not worth talking to bring your islamic scholors/apologists like the guy from answering christianity,islmhinduism,islamic awareness im happy to have a discussion with them

      • @jay. you have searched for truth and whichever religion you want to follow its your choice but i can say that islam is only true religion otherwise you have to face hell.

        your fellow aryasamajis regularly write prophet to agniveer and alu sin and they never say we are not taking it literally? your skill to understand questions is very low and i think every aryasamaji is either become dumb when join aryasamaj or he never try to understand Muslims points. you can read previous comments of your fellow aryasamajis.

        you can’t analyse alusina’s debates. forget islamhinduism you can’t answer me. just try to search what system veda can give to world . can you identity any Vedic society in history which is totally based on veda?

      • hello anti agni if you reject jesus as god according to christians you will also face hell and if they do say that they are being sarcastic do you muslims as you believe in prophets and as for arya samaj i respect all eastern beliefs they are all rational and good its only abrahamic beliefs that are a threat to the world and you say forget islam support even though you support them and what do you mean i cant answer you i answered everything you say and no in the last 2000 years there is no vedic society as india has been invaded many times and many hindu have not read veda most hindus have read ramayana and mahabharta and thats it and i have seen what islamic society can do to the world the good examples are the muslim countries?

  25. @sanatani. you are unable to understand what debate is so my comments are beyond your capabilities of understanding . read first debate with shite aalim how could you say thay alusin have won? Shite aalim continually asking what is your point what you want to prove then what alusin replied? he said truth is beyond the understanding no one can show the truth to others. so how could alusin show us truth?

    he himself denying his credibility, why should i believe him? As i already said that you can deny or reject anything but it can’t form any society . what guidance alusin can show except rejecting? same thing i am saying from many days that if i take an atheist place and start rejecting everything then no one can win with me.

    regarding qadri sb i am saying that debate is fake and how could you think that a maulana can’t give any reference from Quran or hadhith. why should i shy if so many Muslims including me continually giving references at agniveer. if alusin want to modify his page according to his will then what can we do? Can he come at my page and win debate with me?

    I don’t have enough time otherwise i can post a debate between me and alusin and you’ll see that how pathetic will be alusin. that debate will be same ss qadri sb vs alusin . i will take some lines from alusin’s page and comment on that and regularly keep on writing that why you can’t prove your stand. poor alusin never know that. he is debating. only sheikh deedat is enough to counter all christs.

    thanx yo accept that Quran is protected. just try to memorise rigveda then you could understand why only Quran is protected.

    • @anti-agni//Quran is not universal book because it has history and its teaching also not universal, eternal & everlasting
      Can I know why you hate Prophet Ali Sina. What wrong he is supporting? Ali Sina also against rape, terrorism, looting, hate on name of believers and non-believers. When Mr. Bhatti invited to Ali Sina to Mubahila to decide the truth and falsehood. What was wrong in prophet reply to Bhatti. The reply was Mubahila, is a silly practice that Muhammad institutionalized in the Quran. When he was still not powerful to kill his detractors, he would invite them to curse each other so the one who is wrong may die.
      Mr. Bhatti
      I accept that you pray so I die within 90 days. I will however not pray for your death, but rather your enlightenment. I harbor no ill faith towards anyone. You seem to think that by invoking evil on me, I will die. Now, the fact is that anyone can die at any time. No one can be certain to live the next day. So there is always a chance that either one of us die in these coming 90 days. This should be attributed to chance and not to the effect of cursing.
      Quran 3.61: If any one disputes in this matter with thee, now after (full) knowledge Hath come to thee, say: “Come! let us gather together,- our sons and your sons, our women and your women, ourselves and yourselves: Then let us earnestly pray, and invoke the curse of Allah on those who lie!”

      Since I don’t believe in this nonsense and I don’t wish you harm, I am not going to pray for your demise, but I welcome your curses.
      What was wrong in Ali Sina reply to Mr. Bhatti.
      http://alisina.org/blog/2012/02/17/mubahila-the-islamic-cursing-tournament/

  26. @jay. good answer but i am saying that ill change my id and will pretend as atheist and reject everything like alusina then who can win debate with me?

    I have searched debate forum of alusin but i haven’t identified any scholar from Muslims side, how could be they renowned scholarship? i have given some weight to ajmal qadri but after reading that debate i convinced that it is not debate. you haven’t said anything on pattern of debate?

    that debate is like. agniveer analyse speeches of zakir naik…can you say it debate? you are educated person and i am sure that you know debates symposium seminars discussion more. than me. you should be honest while analysing anything .

    if y

    • @Anti-Agni
      ___________change my id and will pretend as atheist ___________
      Firstly, prophet Ali Sina nowhere said he is an atheist. He said he do not believe in Allah. Not believing in Allah does not mean atheist.
      _________everything like alusina then who can win debate with me________
      Ali Sina does not reject everything. His approach is scientific & logical that is why he says Islam is against science. You can discuss to him logically and scientifically. If you will say Earth rotate around the sun, earth is not flat . He will accept your claim.
      _______i haven’t identified any scholar from Muslims side_____
      Many muslim scholar debated with him get defeated many times. It is shame on Muslim that no Muslim trying to debate with him. Have not you read this debated
      http://alisina.org/blog/2012/03/07/islam-the-religion-ofs-moral-relativism/
      _________you know debates symposium seminars discussion more_____
      Criticizing Islam means calling to one’s death. Do you have guts to criticize Islam openly? Taliban and Pakistani terrorist will end your life within no seconds. People like Osama, Afjal, Kasab can do anything for prophet. Killing the apostate is highest virtue as per Islam.
      But after 9/11 and 26/11 people are understanding all concept in Islam. Muslim Mullah are living in fear advising Muslim not to visite alisina, agniveer, faithfreedom etc. because they know Islam is false and can not prove Islam as true religion.

      • @sanatani, i dont knw how could be you peoples so dumb? read your comment again “___you know debates symposium seminars discussion more_____
        Criticizing Islam means calling to one’s death. Do you have guts to criticize Islam openly? Taliban and Pakistani terrorist will end your life within no seconds. People like Osama, Afjal, Kasab can do anything for prophet. Killing the apostate is highest virtue as per ”

        what i have said and what you are writing? i have said that alusin vs maulana qadri debate is not looking debate because being maulana he has not use any hadtith or quran, there was no refutation of alusin’s points from maulana’s side. it is looking like agniveer comments on ZN speeches. if anyone who knows what debate is, read that so called debate then he can know that is total fake. if you still think alusin is your god then it is your choice.

      • @Anti-Agni/Quran is not universal book because it has history and its teaching also not universal, eternal & everlasting
        _______no refutation of alusin’s points from maulana’s side____
        What is fault of Ali Sina in it if Moulana could not give anything From Quran and Hadiths to prove Islam true religion. It is shame on Muslim scholars they could not meet to the challenge of Ali Sina to till date. Here is series of debate of Ali Sin with Muslim scholars. These are interesting debate and we learn many things .
        http://alisina.org/blog/category/debates/

    • ali sina and his group of ex muslims are not pretending they are speaking what they see as truth and they know islam more than non muslims do and if you say you can pretend to be athiest and no body can refute you why dont you leave islam and prove it? agniveer hasnt had debate with zakir naik but he wants to have debate zakir naik and peace tv team have never have had good debates the maulana vs ali sina debate was a debate but the maulana couldnt address ali sina claims also your comment for santana many have memorised the vedas but the vedas is not recition like the quran it is for understanding and studying as for ahmed deedat he didnt have debate with scholors many of ahmed deedat claims have been answered

  27. @sanathani. i am unable to understand that sudden declaration of a person that i have started reading and writing then how could it be a miracle? will you not say that he may have learn in secret? reading and writing is such a big thing?

    alusina is making you fool. i have visited it msny times . there is a debate between alusina vs maulana qadri but i. can’t understand how could it be a debate? if you read it seems that a supposed maulana. has written something and alusina has analysed his ie maulana’s article or mail. Being a maulana qadri sb has not given any reference from Quran or hadhith and whole debate is out of order and one sided. there is no correlation between qadri sb and alusina’s comments. alusins is analysing every word of maulana but maulana is never touching any point of alusin?

    Have you seen such. Debate in your life? In debate debaters try. to counter every point but that debate even don’t have any topic. i have seen many debates but after reading that debate i was amazed that visitors were saying that alusin is best debator?

    Mr. sanatani it is very easy to reject anything but proving anything is very tough. I an challenging every aryasamaji or Christian or any religious person that he can’t win debate with me if i take part of an atheist . ill simply reject everything . alusin says that he believe in logic and in a God which can be proved through logic. i am challenging alusin through you or any mai ka baap that he debate with me logically that God exist. i can very easily counter all the comments very easily because i have nothing to defend. i will have no ideology no concept no system. no belief nothing to defend then how could you defeat me? Will anyone take the challenge including alusin? Will you prove that veda is necessary?

    • yes but you are not athiest so you cant refute anything ali sina only has debates with scholors if you are a well known scholors he will debate you

  28. @sanatani. you may think it as miracle but no one can accept except alusinna. you are unable to understand that prophet Muhammad’s mother tongue was arabic and he was un letterd. suppose if he started arabic reading and writing then will you accept it as miracle? will you not say that it is very easy to learn your mother tongue in secret? there are so many miracles in Quran and Quran is miracle forever but you’ll not accept it?
    Suppose i don’t know chinese then you’ll say that if you know Chinese then it may be a miracle but if i know Chinese already then you’ll say if you know French then an it may be a miracle Chinese is nothing .
    Suppose prophet Muhammad started to study in secret

    • Please show miracles for peace in Afghanistan, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt , Somalia and elsewhere. It is the might of the State or opponents which wields the sword of strength and innocent people suffer and some have miraculous escape to migrate. Neither Allah nor God nor ishwar can come to protect or rescue them. Certain things are good in Quran but only in theory to tell or propagate Islamic ideology. Horde of believers attack weak and helpless in name of Jehad and they do not spare even the believers. Why Sunnies kill Shias and vice versa?

  29. @sanatani, will you accept that you have copy pasted from alu sina’s comment?
    ——-If you have never learned English how to read, write, speak & Suddenly you start to read, write and speak English. What could be the greater miracle than this?—–

    do you want to say any foreign language?

    prophet Muhammad s.a.w give quran in arabic and it was his mother tongue and arabic was mother tongue of those peoples so they can say that you may have studied from any educated person??? how could be it a miracle? will you support everything from alu sinn?

    you dont know about your fellow hinduu rashtra? npli means nepali cpn means communist party of nepal. do you know nepal has mao wadi party in government ? why they have communist or maotse tungs concept? whay not veda’s concept? what is financial sysytem of veda? is interest allowed? is talaq allowed? what is social sysytem of veda? what political sysytem of veda? is there any vedic society in history? these are the questions.

    peoples require political system, moral, spiritual, financial, and social system…what are the guidance of veda on it? why npl which is total hindos country not interested to base their systems on veda? don’t answer philosophically it can never help. islam is complete in all the respects..it has total guidance.

    you can read “islam ka nizam e hayat” by maulana maududi only 24 pages book. ultimate book on this topic. you can give me your address i can send you through post. hindi translation is islam ki jeevan vyavastha. and english translation is islamic way of life. it has been translated in about 50 languages of the word.

    you can purchase online just search on net.

    • _
      @Anti-Agni/Quran is not universal book because it contain history
      __________will you accept that you have copy pasted from alu sina’s comment_____________
      Ali Sina is my ideal. He is role model for me. I am great fan. He is irrefutable scholar. Yes, I take many comments from Ali Sina. He never blocked my ID. your Islamic sites have blocked my Id several time. They have no guts.
      __________do you want to say any foreign language___________
      I have told in general. Suppose, you have not learned a language it may be Hindi, English, chines etc and suddenly you start to read, write and speak that language. Is it not miracle?

    • Ok, what we are discussing here is about spirituality and eternal aspect of vedas. You want to know where did vedas talk about interest,political system,morals,financial…..
      One point should be clear is that Vedas do have a lot of morals and they lay down the various duties of every individual (Which is essentially Social structure) and speaks about the qualities and duties of a king (Political system) . And Moreover we have Manu Smriti and Dharma Shastras which guides us on all these issues.
      Now Arthashastra Deals in detail with Finance,Taxation,Pricing,laws on contract , law on goods ,Civil law , criminal law and so on……
      Now if Quran was a revealed text , It means Kautalya was smarter than Allah because he gave very advanced Commercial and Social rules and Laws Before Allah AND HE LIVED A VEDIC LIFE. Moreover Quran is just a proof showing the incompetency of Allah to send the message just once .He needs amendments to his previous rules and regulations .But veda is final and eternal . It applies to all ages and situations

  30. @anti-agni

    _________i am illiterate and suddenly i started reading and writing then will you not say that someone may have taught you____
    If you have never learned English how to read, write, speak & Suddenly you start to read, write and speak English. What could be the greater miracle than this?
    _________you have not answered on veda and npli cpn and mao party_____
    Please explain me what is Mao party and npli cpn. Write the full form? What you want to say explain?
    ____________Why you can’t answer on veda________
    You can question to me about Veda, but you should to know what is Veda? Veda are eternal, everlasting and universal truths. If any truth is not eternal, everlasting & universal that is not Veda. God is eternal & universal entity and his/her teaching also would be eternal and universal. These truth are perfect and unchangeable. When one works hard in search of truth God reveals the truths to that person. Like God revealed the scientific truths to scientist.

    • True that miracles do not happen. Magician or some self styled religious leaders like late Sai Baba learnt magic or acting to cheat people. But God is a great saviour and come rescue of good persons. I have experiences of his benevolence.

  31. @sanatani. your point has no meaning. i have already told you that alu sin has posted this comment in response of zitsi. you are just defending a meaningless point.

    suppose i am illiterate and suddenly i started reading and writing then will you not say that someone may have taught you? Specially when i used to visit ghare hira? Mojza is Quran and huzoor was not illiterate but he was unletterd.

    why you have not answered on veda and npli cpn and mao party? Veda has no guidance for humanity…no solution for problems.

    • anti agni why dont you reply to any of my comments? many muslims have left islam i can you name of many muslim clerics/preachers that left islam for other religion weather it is christianity,hinduism,judaism,modern athiesm etc as for muslim websites who are against agniveer and attacking him when they can not refute bigger anti muslim websites i can tell you i can refute many of their articles espically if they come on this website im a new arya samaji and im still learning i believe strongly in what swami dayanand saraswati said when he said to accept truth and reject falsehood

      • @jay. i don’t know what you want fron me? You peoples are not honest in accepting anything from Muslims point of view. you become biased and fool when talk to any muslim. Just search yusuf estates or islamtomorrow.com and you’ll know how many Muslims are leaving islam.
        i or we never say that millions are accepting islam but we say that islam is fastest growing religion and we don’t work like Christian missionaries ie we don’t sale our believe. or purchase anyone’s belief. you peoples usually say that millions of Muslims coming back to ancestoral religion ? Do you understand how much peoples will be if it is 3 or 5 million? can you show me one million in whole India?

        some may have left islam but most of them not leave because they found any other religion more suitable and convincing in their search of spirituality . but most of the peoples who accept islam they accept it because they found islam convincing and answer of every question . Becoming neutral from religion is another thing and accepting another religion is different . there are more Hindus and Christian who are neutral from there religion . how much Hindus read or understand veda? Most of the Hindus say that everything is ok because they haven’t found any convincing answer in hindism.

      • First of all you keep talking nonsense you havent answered anything second i was hinduagnostic so i was open minded i was already to stop believing in god but i wanted to see if belief system had some answers and i think the eastern beliefs are good but the thing is taoism,confuism are popular in places like china and buddhism is good but they dont really believe in god so i looked to sikhism and more monthiestic view through arya samaj based only in vedas can you muslims do the samething? no you will not and will say only islam is the truth and no you muslims are just like christians you preach all the time you promote islam in everyway and no most people who convert are christians because muslims accept jesus but give a more simple view and option that jesus was simply a prophet and just a human being and now your wrong again most hindus are secular and say there are many paths to a god religion is there just as identity we believ in humanity but other belief bring religion into everything

      • you can never say that Islam is convincing. actually Islam does not convince a rational mind. moreover your prophet is notorious for many acts and it is impossible that he would be God’s messenger.moreover I request you to read the article “god must be crazy ” in this website and rebut each and every point. moreover Islam is against non Muslims.the truth can’t be hidden for long.the main reason Islam is still surviving is because of media censorship in Islamic countries.and it has no new science in it , I mean a lot of scientific facts given in quran were know to Indians before quran was even written.and sharia law is barbaric. the only reason why you support Islam was because you were born in a Muslim family.your karma decides it. and btw we give respect to all living creatures unlike your barbaric cult which kill animals to satisfy your taste buds.

  32. There are people like Zakir Naik who proclaim Islam is the only true religions. However, worldover, muslims are being considered as nuisance.Muslim countries are the most backward and 50% of their population, i.e. women are forced to live like slaves, covered all over and are at the mercy of their men, who can throw them out simply uttering talaq three times.
    Let Zakir Naik explain the world;
    1. Why all terrorists are muslims?
    2. Why all the muslim countries are backward
    3. Why Islam commands to kill the non muslims
    4. Why they do idol worship at Kaba
    5. Why Ali Sina’s challange has not been anwered by him till date
    6. All the great preachers/prophets used gospels to tell their message, why Muhammad used sword
    7. Establishment of Islam in Mecca through war, was it not an act of terrorism. Is there any other example whther any prophet attacked any city to give his message?
    8. If ISLAM teaches brotherhood, why SHIAS and Sunnis fight like dogs, Sunnis are killing Ahmediyas in Pakistan

  33. @jay. islam Hinduism site contains a link as mp arya ko jawab which is an audio and in that reply islam Hinduism thoroughly refuted some points of mp including ajajeel.

    As i have already said you can find a video of debate between tariq sb and mp. arya in which mp arya said that Allah ordered ajajeel to. Bring dust. there are many videos of mp. arya on you tube and he frequently say ajajeel.

    • show me where in the video he says that im not saying your wrong but i dont remember if he acyually said ajajeel as for islamhinduism they made a video where they try to answer the questions of mp arya they didnt refute anything

    • Ajajlil hai ya zibrail dono naam kuran me bhi ate hai aur bible me bhi…ue nam hi kuu sare nam aur kahania merry ne kuye k pami me jhank k delha aur bachcha paida ho gaya…va bhai vah pani me dekhne se ba chcha!!!!!aisi manghaxant ajube wali kahanoyo ka bhandar hai kuran…ek kahani me to allah miya ne dil hea heart ka operation karmare huye insaan ko jinddakara aise batate hai…ohsanatan is base of all dharma…o aaj itni pragati me aap aizi bat man k kahte ho maine imaam laya…arwe bhai beimaani AAtank hatya k siwa islam me kya rah gaya hai bhai aur pahle b kya tha.

  34. @jay. you are totally out of order. have you listened that islamhinduism reply to mp arya? It is the problem mr. jay that without reading anything you show too much. mp arya ko jawb is not video and you are saying mp arya answered to that video?

    you can search on. you tube mp arya and tariq Abdullah …in tht video he haas clearly mentioned ajajeel.

    • @anti-agn
      Hey anti-agni please let me know why do you believe Islam is true religion. Why Mohammed used to keep sex slaves? How do you know Islam was not political agenda of Arabs to lead the world?

      • @sanatani. why you want that topic must be repeated all the time?
        Can you show me anyy vedic society? why we believe in agniveer samajis translation only? why we reject translation which is accepted by 99% Hindus and obviously that translation is much older than dayanda?

        Veda only leads to idol worship and casteism but you peoples for the sake of Hinduism change the translation and try to show something which is not real meanings of veda. why should i translate gau to charity or knowledge? why should i take everything as symbolic?

        And for Quran you try to give such meanings which was never accepted by majority of muslims? Is it not double standard? We have an example of society based on quran and historically proved.

      • @anti-agni
        Why not you answer me why do Allah makes a lot of fuss over formless worship, Idol worship and non worship? Why did Allah send prophet in Arabia land? Why worshiping Allah not enough to get heaven? Why believing in Jinns, angles, Mohammed is compulsory for getting heaven?

      • @sanatani. because how could you know that Allah exists or not? through Quran and prophet Muhammad and who brought wahi? Angel jibraeel alaihissalam and if i reject the presence of malaika then how could i believe in quran and know Allah? how could i know how to worship Allah? i have to believe every word of Quran true and jinn is mentioned in quran so i have to believe .

        tell me why should i not believe chong ping as indian pm with mam sngh? What is the problem if. i reject cji? can you show me anything without any system?

        Please tell me what is political system of veda? Why npli country can’t base its political system on hinduism or veda? Why npl has moist party and cpn? What is marriage and talaq system of veda? What is economical system. in veda? Which country has adobted it or trying to adobt? Is interest allowed in veda? Id talaq allowed in veda?

        Can you identify any vedic society in history except birth based caste system and brahmin superiority? you are highly infected by inferiority complex so you want to impose a book which has nothing except hindi origin.

      • @Anti-Agni
        “Instead of directly giving his message to mankind Allah chooses and illiterate man to be his messenger, who performs all sorts of miracles but is not able to perform the most useful miracle of reading and writing. But Allah does not speak to this messenger directly. He sends another messenger to be the go between, i.e. Angle Gabriel. Apparently this angle also was not very well identifiable because Satan comes in between and while Gabriel recites the verses to Muhammad, Satan utters some other words and neither Muhammad nor Gabriel notice it. After a while Gabriel finds out what Muhammad has done and tell him those verses were not him. That is when Muhammad realizes that they are satanic verses. One would expect God act a bit more judicially in revealing his most important revelation to mankind. But obviously he is also an ignoramus like his prophet.”

      • @sanatani. what a foolish answer you have given? do you think reading and writing is miracle? am i performing a miracle? aryasamadhi minus alisuna =0……you are nothing without alusinna.

        we call it moajaza and moajaza means no one is able to counter so do you tjink reading and writing is moajaza. Quran is moajaza no one can challenge it.

        i know you can’t answr it because you have copy pasted aluusinna blindly. i think he is your real master, you don’t need to analze his comments?? hahaha. i have already read at alisinni.

        Why you can’t answer on veda..? because veda has nothing except azadi to do anything…to chose communism or maoism or imperialism or dictatorships . veda can accommodate wid everyone.

      • @Anti-Agni
        ________do you think reading and writing is miracle____
        What could be greatest miracle if an illiterate man read and write?
        _____am i performing a miracle____
        You are not illiterate, you are educated and learned how to read and write. You can read and write there is no miracle.

      • @anti-agni
        ____________Why you can’t answer on veda________
        You can question to me about Veda, but you should to know what is Veda? Veda are eternal, everlasting and universal truths. If any truth is not eternal, everlasting & universal that is not Veda. God is eternal & universal entity and his/her teaching also would be eternal and universal. These truth are perfect and unchangeable. When one works hard in search of truth God reveals the truths to that person. Like God revealed the scientific truths to scientist.
        ________veda has nothing except azadi to do anything_____
        Whatever is universal and eternal truth like Earth rotate around the sun, “The moving moon always receives a ray of light from sun” etc are Veda. If you think Azadi means killing of innocent, raping the woman, etc are not Veda.
        http://agniveer.com/science-in-vedas/

      • You need to understand there are many fake babas who know nothing about hindu scriptures espically not vedas most hindu scholors follow many books but arya samaj scholors only follow vedas and know vedas better than hindu scholors know vedas eg hinduscholors may know more about mahabharta than arya samaj but arya samaj scholors know more about vedas than other scholrs which is why zakir naik brought fake shankaracharya and fake president of arya samaj to his conference because they are looked as more knowledgable about hindu scriptures as for vedas most hindus dont read vedas and those who have didnt understand as for quran we only read quran from islamic scholors no body else

      • Many things in Quranic ideology are from Vedic philosophy but Islam only follows Quran in theory and not in practice. In Namaj Nam is Naman or surrender to God called Aj in vedas and Aj means Ajanma God. Perhaps Haj is pilgrimage to holy Qaba where Vedik name Aj of Ajanma God was propagated. Even Mahamedha in Sanskrit means Maaha + medha. Maha means Mahaan and Medha means enlightened one i.e. one who has realized God and fought against infidel priests who had made business of the religion to cheat the common masses. Foolish people worship idols while Ved and Quran are against idol worship which leads the worshiper nowhere. Vedic civilization followed path of love, peace and ahinsa i.e. non-violence and pursuasion while Islam practiced violence to subdue infidels. Learned Hindu priests acknowledge authority of Vedas but do not defy idol worship. What is to be followed is Ram Charit Manas i.e. ideal Manviya Charitra of Ram but most of Hindus prostrate before imaginary idol of Ram to fulfill their desires with their false belief. No bhagwan or god came to rescue of Hindu idols, temples and disappearing population of Hindus in Pakistan and Bangladesh. But foolhardiness continues unabated in India. Hindu leaders too have eye on substantial minority vote in chess of elections.

      • he replied to the so called answers of the admins but i dont know if he replied to that video exactly

  35. @pravin. mahendra paal is deceiving you. you can see his debate with tariq Abdullah sb on you tube. he always say that Allah ordered ajajeel to bring dust?? There is no ajajeel in Quran. and it shows that he doesn’t know Quran . i don’t know in which masjid he was imam but you peoples have habit exaggerate. the things .

    just go to Islam Hinduism. website and u can listen detail jawab to mp arya. Actually you reject everything every faith every boik while debate so it seems that opposition left with nothing to say.

    i have challenged many times to mp arya and still i am waiting, he has not answered me.

    • that what you muslims say your abdullah tariq from peace tv couldnt answer his questions as for that video from islamhinduism that video is complete nonsense mahendera pal arya replied back to islamhinduism admins they have not replied back publicily ever sense and you making claims we exagerate we dont you muslim exagarate the most you say people are accepting islam but you dont show the milions who left islam and if you really did challenged him i dont why he would reply but i think he should reply to peopl like you who has already been refuted

  36. MahendraPalji kahi bhi aur kabhi bhi dharm charcha k liye tayyar hai. Zakir k uatad unse chacha kar k kabul kiya hai k MagendraPalji sahi hai.utna ya zakir ka gyan kya apse kum hai?challanve kabul kar k ajao.30 50 bar challamge hua unka.darppk kamjor kam buddhi wala adhure vyan me musalmano ko atanki banane wala zakir sache insan k samne nahi ayega.JAI J
    HIND.

  37. Ek koi challange kar raha tha k charcha karo.janab ek hai aajm MahendraPal ji..jo pahle masjid me Imam tbe.Vedo ka gyan liya unhone aur Hindu dharm Sanatani bune hai.pichle 3salo se zakir nalayak ko uske ustad ko pachaso bar unhone charcha k liye kahi b karne Tayyar baithe hai.ma ka dudh piya aur asal iman wala hai to zakir kyo nahi ata samne .aaj bhi Mahendraji rdy hI unka challange janda hai.kahi b kabhi bhi charcha ho jaye satya samne aa jayega.JayHind……… ……..

  38. Zakir nalyak ko desbdroh n algav vadi adharmik ishnindk k apradh me jail me bithao .varna Hinduo ki sahanshilta ko kamjori samajne wale jehad k nam ka durupyog karne walo k khilaf humko Dharm yuddha karna he padega.JAI HIND.

  39. Kuran bible la duplicate hai.christians musalman se bahot pahle aye.bible k abtahm ko ibrahim? Aur Sanatan dharm yugo se hai.hindu ya sanatan k koi granth Vedo me kuran k tarha daraya ua laluch nahi hai.kuran arbio k liye bnai gai arbi me.fir aap log q padhte ho.?kahaniyo k siwa kya hai isme!?vedo me likha hai sarva manav k liye.samze?zakir deshdrohi k pittuo.VANNDEMATRAM.

  40. Rajkumar. Musalman kahte hai musalsal lmaan wale ko?kya innme aaj ya pahle iman tha ya aaj hai? Nahi
    .Q k jub hindu ka marne k bad sub parthiv panxh tatva me shamil ho jata haiuslmi lko marne pe isi dharti me gad k kabra banate hai.yani marne pe b wo isi ma k v
    k god me sote hai.kabul?fir b VANDE MAATRAM MA KO SALAM KARNE PE ROTE JAI. YE KAIS imaan hai?VANDE MAATTAM.JAY HIND..

  41. कौन कहता है कि हिन्दू शब्द विदेशियोँ की देन है और किसी भी हिन्दूग्रन्थ मेँ नहीँ आता?

    हिमालयात्‌ समारम्भः यावत्‌ इन्दु सरोवरम्‌ तं देवनिर्मितं देशं “हिन्दूस्थानं” प्रचक्षते।
    :-वृहस्पति आगम

    जब संसार मेँ अरबी व ईरानी सभ्यता का अस्तित्व ही नहीँ था तो उससे भी बहुत पहले उपरोक्त आगम ग्रन्थ लिखा जा चुका था। प्राचीन काल मेँ हिन्द महासागर को इन्दु सरोवर भी कहा जाता था।

    उपरोक्त श्लोकानुसार हिमालय का (हि) तथा इन्दु का (न्दु) शब्द मिलकर (हिन्दू) बनाते हैँ। जैसा कि “हिन्दूस्थान” नाम भी इसी को सूचित करता है।

    ॐ!!

  42. ( ONLY FOR DHARASHAN JI) क्या केवल मुस्लिमो मेँ ही वफा की कमी थी। हिन्दुओ मे नही । इसका उत्तर तो स्वयं आपने ही दे दिया कि मुस्लिम राजा हिन्दुओ को आपस मेँ लङाते थे। अगर वो विश्वनीय होते तो आपस मे क्युँ लङते। या फिर उनका विश्वास मुस्लिमो के धन तक सीमित था, स्वधर्मरक्षा के लिए नही। इससे पता चलता है कि स्वयं आपने इतिहास की जानकारी संस्क्रत की पुस्तको से ली है। जो केवल हिन्दु राजाऔ का गुणगान मात्र है जैसे काना हिन्दु राजा को नैनसुख की संग़्या देना और दुसरे राजा की निन्दा करना। एक बात यह भी की आपने जो मेरे पुर्व मे किये गये व्यँगय का प्रतिउत्तर दिया वो सराहनीय था। और उसके बारे मेँ मुझे पहले से ही पुर्ण जानकारी थी परन्तु फिर भी इसमे कोई अतिश्योक्ति नही कि सबसे पहले अरबो ने ही इस देश को हिन्दुस्तान और यहाँ के लोगो को हिन्दु कहकर सम्बोधित किया फलस्वरुप पुरी दुनिया ने हम लोगो को हिन्दु नाम से जाना। और आपने कहा कि मेरे संस्कारो मे कमी थी इसलिए मैने धर्म परिवर्तन किया तो मै बताना चाहता हुँ कि आप सच बोल रहे है , मेरे संस्कारो मेँ कमी थी परन्तु अब नही है क्योँकि अब मेँ मुस्लमान हुँ। और दर्शन जी मेरा उद्देश्य किसी का दिल दुखाना नही था वो तो मैने प्रश्न कुछ ओर पुछा था और आपकी पक्ष से उत्तर असँतोषजनक और विषयभ्रमित मिले तो मेरा भी उत्तेजित होना स्वभाविक है। और इस्लाम कबुल करना, संस्कारो मे कमी को नही दर्शाता है वो तो ईश्वर जिसको सदबुद्धी देता है वो ही इस्लाम लाता है। और किसी की व्यक्तिगत रुप से आलोचना करना भी कुसँस्कारो का ही प्रतिक है , मेरे पुर्व व्यंगय से आपको बुरा लगा तो क्षमा चाहता हुँ क्योँकि मेरा इस्लाम मुझे ह्रदयघात करना नही सिखाता। धन्यवाद अल्लाह आपको हिदायातयाब करे आमीन। और मेरे पहले व्यँगय का संतोषजनक उत्तर अवश्य देवेँ जो विहिप और RSS की चुप्पी से सम्बधित था आपसे थोङी उम्मिद है। एतिहासिक समिक्षा स्वतंत्र द्रष्टीकोण से करे , हिन्दुत्व की भावना मे बहकर समिक्षा करना आपको सत्य से दुर धकेल रहा है।

    • इंसानियत से बढ़ के कोई मत नहीं | धर्म हमेशा एक ही होता है | सत्य के अलावा जो तर्क की कसौटी पर जो पूरा उतरे वह भी धर्मं है | जिसकी बात में अधिक वजन उसको भी मान लेना चाहिए | पक्षपात रहित व्यक्ति ही सत्य और असत्य का निर्णय कर सकता है | किसी भी इस्लामिक देश में शांति और गणतंत्र नहीं है | जिसकी लाठी उसकी भैंस वाला नियम ही चलता है | मूर्ति यां कबर पूजा वैदिक धर्म में मना है |हिन्दू मत में आप शास्त्रार्थ यां तर्क कर सकते हैं जबकि इस्लाम में नहीं | जो मत आपकी विचारिक स्वतंत्रता पर अंकुश लगता है वह धर्म नहीं हो सकता अपितु केवल रटना-रटाना है क्यूंकि मझहब पर सवाल करना गैर-इस्लामिक है |
      दर्शन शर्मा अच्छे मुस्सलमान, हिन्दू यां इस्साई हो सकते हैं | पर अलग – अलग मजहब एक दुसरे के लिए नफरत फैलाते हैं और फस्साद का कारण बनते हैं | एक को इमानवाला और दुसरे को काफ़िर बता जुल्म करने की इज़ाज़त देते हैं | भला दहशत फैलानेवाला यां बेकसूरों की हत्या करनेवाला जिहादी कैसे हो सकते है | दर्शन शर्मा

      • jihadi tumbhi ho sakte ho agar tumhare man ya bahan ka koi izzat loot raha hai aur tun uska izzat bachane ke liye agar lare ga to tunbhi jihadi hi kahlaye ga.
        kisika izzat lutne wala kabhi zihadi nahi kah layega.waise hi fasad rokne wala ya usse larne wala zihadi kahlayega .fasad karnewala zihadi nahi kahlayega.agar wo musalman hi kiyaun na ho.sare dharam yahi kahte hai par wo karte nahi hain.
        ap agar bat samajh te ho to ap ko bhi main ap se yahi kahunga ki hakko kayam karo aur batil ko mitao chunki hak agaya hai batil ko mitna hi hai

      • abc ,ji, apke hisaab se haq jo agaya hai usko 1450 saal ho gaye tab bhi batil khatam nahi ho saka hai !
        quran to buniyadi rup se galat hai, jhuth ki buniyad hai.
        laden ki kis bahan ki ijjat looti gayi thi jo vah jehadi ban gaya tha !

    • bhai tumhri saari post padh kar mujhe purani kahawat sach hoti dekhi hain idhr “Naya naya mulla pyaj jada khata hain aur allaha allaha krta hain “. tum kahin ke bhi nhi rhe bhai………….. na hindu na muslaman..
      bich me latke rhoge……..

  43. ( ONLY FOR DHARASHAN JI)क्या केवल मुस्लिमो मेँ ही वफा की कमी थी। हिन्दुओ मे नही । इसका उत्तर तो स्वयं आपने ही दे दिया कि मुस्लिम राजा हिन्दुओ को आपस मेँ लङाते थे। अगर वो विश्वनीय होते तो आपस मे क्युँ लङते। या फिर उनका विश्वास मुस्लिमो के धन तक सीमित था, स्वधर्मरक्षा के लिए नही। इससे पता चलता है कि स्वयं आपने इतिहास की जानकारी संस्क्रत की पुस्तको से ली है। जो केवल हिन्दु राजाऔ का गुणगान मात्र है जैसे काना हिन्दु राजा को नैनसुख की संग़्या देना और दुसरे राजा की निन्दा करना। एक बात यह भी की आपने जो मेरे पुर्व मे किये गये व्यँगय का प्रतिउत्तर दिया वो सराहनीय था। और उसके बारे मेँ मुझे पहले से ही पुर्ण जानकारी थी परन्तु फिर भी इसमे कोई अतिश्योक्ति नही कि सबसे पहले अरबो ने ही इस देश को हिन्दुस्तान और यहाँ के लोगो को हिन्दु कहकर सम्बोधित किया फलस्वरुप पुरी दुनिया ने हम लोगो को हिन्दु नाम से जाना। और आपने कहा कि मेरे संस्कारो मे कमी थी इसलिए मैने धर्म परिवर्तन किया तो मै बताना चाहता हुँ कि आप सच बोल रहे है , मेरे संस्कारो मेँ कमी थी परन्तु अब नही है क्योँकि अब मेँ मुस्लमान हुँ। और दर्शन जी मेरा उद्देश्य किसी का दिल दुखाना नही था वो तो मैने प्रश्न कुछ ओर पुछा था और आपकी पक्ष से उत्तर असँतोषजनक और विषयभ्रमित मिले तो मेरा भी उत्तेजित होना स्वभाविक है। और इस्लाम कबुल करना, संस्कारो मे कमी को नही दर्शाता है वो तो ईश्वर जिसको सदबुद्धी देता है वो ही इस्लाम लाता है। और किसी की व्यक्तिगत रुप से आलोचना करना भी कुसँस्कारो का ही प्रतिक है , मेरे पुर्व व्यंगय से आपको बुरा लगा तो क्षमा चाहता हुँ क्योँकि मेरा इस्लाम मुझे ह्रदयघात करना नही सिखाता। धन्यवाद अल्लाह आपको हिदायातयाब करे आमीन। और मेरे पहले व्यँगय का संतोषजनक उत्तर अवश्य देवेँ जो विहिप और RSS की चुप्पी से सम्बधित था आपसे थोङी उम्मिद है। एतिहासिक समिक्षा स्वतंत्र द्रष्टीकोण से करे , हिन्दुत्व की भावना मे बहकर समिक्षा करना आपको सत्य से दुर धकेल रहा है।

    • musalman ke pas dhan hahahahaha kya bavas kar raha tu be…. vo dar dar ki thokar khane vale log the n he….apna asli nam kyo nahi bata raha tu

    • हिन्दू / सिन्धु शब्द सिंह शब्द से बना | तिब्बतन और लदाखी भाषा में सिंध नदी को सिंघे चांगपो (चांगपो का अर्थ नदी )
      कहते हैं | सिंध नदी कैलाश पर्वत की जिस चोटी से निकलती है उसकी चेहरा भी सिंह जैसा है | वैदिक हिन्दू धर्मं में सिंह धर्मं का रक्षक है | हिन्दू राजा नरसिंहा भी कहलाता था, जैसे सिंहासन , सिंहद्वार , सिंहनाद और सिंहगर्जना शब्द हिंदी में आते हैं |.

    • इस्लाम कबुल करना, संस्कारो मे कमी को ही दर्शाता है | ईश्वर जिसको सदबुद्धी देता है वह मनुष्यता अर्थात इसनियत को मानता है धर्म के नाम पर मतों अर्थात बरैन्ड़ो को नहीं | धर्मं सत्य और अहिंसा पर आधारित है | कुरान शरीफ शराफत की हिदायत देता है जबकि उसके उलट इस्लाम को तलवार के डर से फैलाया गया | कुछ रट कर कोई मुस्सल्मान तो क्या इंसान भी नहीं बन सकता | अगर हजरत मुहम्मद के खिलाफ नहीं तो राम कृष्ण के खिलाफ भी व्यंग्य नहीं होने चाहिये | मैं एक हिन्दू होते हुए भी मुहम्मद को नबी मानता हूँ क्यूँ इश्वर-अल्लाह के नाम पर मक्का में होरहा पाखंड और व्यापार इश्वर छोड़ अनीश्वर पूजा थी |
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  44. मुसलमान बादशाह हिन्दुओं को हिन्दुओं से लड़ाते थे, क्यूंकि इस्लाम में वफ़ा की कमी है | मुसलमान सेनापति कब दगा देजाये और खुद बादशाह बन जाये ऐसा होता रहा |

  45. Hindu liberation tumhari knowlrge badi kam hai yaar tumhe ye to pata hai ki musalman baadshah hinduo se jazka lete the par ye pata nahi ki wo isliye ki us samay jange ya ladaiya muslman hi lada karte the jab koi jang hoti to musalman jang ladne jaate the aur hindu nahi isliye unse jazka liya jata tha tumhari jaan ke liye mai ladu to uska paisa to banta hai aur tum kahte ho ki aaj tum humse paisa nahi lete to sarkar jo tex leti hai wo kya hai tex ka sabse bada hissa fauz ko hi jata hai aur aaj to muslman bhi india ke liye dusmano se ladte hai fauz me aur aaj ki jange kya hoti hai pahle ke mjkable dur chup kar goliya chalate raho jab nangi talwar ke samne hona padta hai tab pata chalta hai samjhe

    • dear sanjeev jaziya was not the normal govt tax. It is the tax muslims take from non muslims to allow them to visit their religious places. If it was the tax to protect people it should have been taken from muslims also.
      Akbar banned this jeziya, so do you think he din fought battles. jeziya is written in sharia itself. islam cud be a way that leads to god, no doubt in that but muslim ideology that its the only way to reach god is wrong and opposite to almost every religious ideology.
      This is the reason ISLAM is most intolerant religion in world.

    • @jawab suno bhai ji

      आपने तो जजिया कर का एक नया कारण खोज निकाला, क्या अब मुहम्मद की तरह आप पर भी इल्माह?

      hahaha……
      hahaha…..
      ॐ!!

  46. As my friend told that we should follow ISLAM to be be succesful in life i suppose he knows ISLAM quite well, atleast more than hindus. ISLAM could be right in each and every way but this is a bitter truth they have done masacares on the name of mohammad. The history speaks for itself. Hinduism is not a religion. It is a mixture of diverse cultures which lived in peace for thousands of years. I feel pity on you. Move your islamic glasses and you will see things clearly.

  47. आप के तर्क व्यर्थ है। आप रटी रटाइ बात को ही प्राथमिकता देते हो। तर्क और कारण सदैव ही आप के लिए दुर की कोङी रहे है। आप उन पर ईल्जाम लगाते हो कि वो आपको काफिर कहते है , शुक्र मानो उन्होने तुम्हे काफिर नही वरना पूरी दुनिया तुम्हे काफीर कहती। उन्हौने तो तुम्हे एक नाम दिया ‘हिन्दु’ जेसै बच्चे को नाम दिया जाता है। और आज कहते हो हिन्दु , हिन्दी। अरे जब हिन्दु उन्होने कहा। हिन्दी अमीर खुसरो ने बनायी। और एक नसीहत आपके लिए ईतिहास जानने के लिए सँस्क्रत की पुस्तक और चारणो के गुणगान मत पढा करो। जीवन समर मे सफलता पानी हे तो इस्लाम ले आऔ। मेने और मेरे तीन मित्रो ने एक साल पहले इस्लाम कबुल किया।

    • हिन्दू / सिन्धु शब्द सिंह शब्द से बना | तिब्बतन और लदाखी भाषा में सिंध नदी को सिंघे चांगपो (चांगपो का अर्थ नदी )
      कहते हैं | सिंध नदी कैलाश पर्वत की जिस चोटी से निकलती है उसकी चेहरा भी सिंह जैसा है | वैदिक हिन्दू धर्मं में सिंह धर्मं का रक्षक है | हिन्दू राजा नरसिंहा भी कहलाता था, जैसे सिंहासन , सिंहद्वार , सिंहनाद और सिंहगर्जना शब्द हिंदी में आते हैं |.
      मूर्ती पूजक हिन्दुओं की तरह जो मुसलमान कब्रों को पूजते हैं कुरान के अनुसार वोह भी काफिर हैं | शायद आप में संस्कारों की कमी थी जो आपने धर्म छोड़ इस्लाम मत्त को अपना लिया |
      संस्कृत तो संसार की सब भाषाओँ की जननी है और उसके शब्द यां मिलेजुले शब्द सभी भाषाओँ में पाये जाते हैं | संस्कृत और हिन्दी के बारे में आपके विचार गलत हैं | मेरे विचार में अरबी और उर्दू भी अच्छी और पढने लायक भाषाएँ हैं | आप को सब भाषाओँ का सम्मान करना चाहिए |

    • कौन कहता है कि हिन्दू शब्द विदेशियोँ की देन है और किसी भी हिन्दूग्रन्थ मेँ नहीँ आता?

      हिमालयात्‌ समारम्भः यावत्‌ इन्दु सरोवरम्‌ तं देवनिर्मितं देशं “हिन्दूस्थानं” प्रचक्षते।
      :-वृहस्पति आगम

      जब संसार मेँ अरबी व ईरानी सभ्यता का अस्तित्व ही नहीँ था तो उससे भी बहुत पहले उपरोक्त आगम ग्रन्थ लिखा जा चुका था। प्राचीन काल मेँ हिन्द महासागर को इन्दु सरोवर भी कहा जाता था।

      उपरोक्त श्लोकानुसार हिमालय का (हि) तथा इन्दु का (न्दु) शब्द मिलकर (हिन्दू) बनाते हैँ। जैसा कि “हिन्दूस्थान” नाम भी इसी को सूचित करता है।

      ॐ!
      ॐ!!!

    • rajkumar hum sarm he ki tum jaise log jo nich man se pidit he vehi log aisi bat kar sakte he….as per jakir naik jaise logo ko to musalaman bhi bulate nahi…. are bhai apne apna dharm badal ke bahut nich dharm pakada he to nam bhi badal kar yaha post karte hinduo ke nam ka sahara kyo le rahe ho…..

    • Agar aapne Islam kabool kiya to pehle apna User name badaliye.

      Doosra Islam pe poori Duniya thook rahi hai, Islam duniya ka sabse illogical dhram hai.

      Udta hua Ghoda, Jinn aur Ferishte, 72 randion ka jannat, Dusre manushyon ke liye ghrina. Yehi hai Islam ki sacchai.

      Aur rahi baat Amir Khusro Ki, Bangladesh ka Rashtriya Gaan Hindu ne likha, Pakistan ka pehla Rashtriya geet Hindu ne likha, Urdu Bhasha ka base sanskrit me hai, To fir kya sare Musalmano ko Hinu ho jana chahiye.

      Doosri baat , aap musalman ho aur nakli profile banake logon ko behka rahe ho.

      Apke din poore ho gaye hain. Ap is technology ke Yug me Islam nanga ho gaya hai.

      Ab Jaldi Arab ki Gulaami chod aur Sanatn Dharma ko apna lo. Fir Satya Path bhi Milega aur Vishwa Bhar me samman bhi.

    • @ Raj Kumar
      First I want to introduce my self I’m an ex-Muslim and humanist, let us come on topic
      You have claimed that they give answer like a parrot, and you also said you embrace Islam along with your three friends. That’s good but I want to know about your background and I’ll ask some questions to you and please answer honestly.
      1 What made you to embrace Islam? (Aapne Islam kyun kaboola?)

    • Dear Raj Kumar,

      It’s one month passed but till now you have not replied, What made you to embrace Islam?
      If you are true Please reply dear don’t be coward.

  48. ram mandir ke liye hajaro indians ko marne wale ab bol rhe he ki ram ke itihas purush hone pr shak he… to fir un masumo ko kyu mara…or rss and vhp wale chup he… kyukli shak modi group ke logo ko he … kya modi ram se bada bhagwan he ,.. kya ram mandir ki jagah ab modi mandir banega..kya hindutav ka mtlb hindu sanskrati ka prchar he ya fir minority ka virodh … agr minority shak krti to hinsa bhadak hoti.. agr sanskrati ka prchar he to me aapke sath hu.. but aap khte kuch he or krte kuch.. aap logical bat kyu ni krte he.. swami vivekanand ne kha he ki jo dharam satya or vigyan ki ksoti pr khra na utre uska nast ho jana hi acha he.. us hisab se dr zakir ache or aap failure.. meri duvidha ko shant kre plz ..otherwise me move ho jaunga..

    • rajkumar bhai lagta hai aap muslim ke saath nahi rahe hai…….Ek muslim 10 hindu ke saath mein rah sakta hai par 1 hindu 10 muslim ke saath nahi rah sakta. aapke forefathers shayad aurenzeb ke time mein nahi rahe honge. Hindu kayun sa Tax lagata hai non hinduo par ????? par muslim tax lagate hai non muslimo par. Jab ek police ek atankwadi muslaman ko marta hai to lakho muslim nikal jate hai usse bachane ke liye….par aaj tak kitne muslimo ko dekha hai Terriost ke khilaf nikelte hue???????? Pehle jao yaar tum samajh lo ki musalman kya hota hai ????? Phir question poocho…

    • Rammanir ko babri majid kahna galat hai..pahl baat babr nam k lootere ne mandir tod kar mAjid bani fir Hinduo ne usko mandir banaya wahase ate huye logo ki gidhra me jinda muslumo ne jala diya…kai Hundu mare gaye pratikriya me muslim mare gaye…maramari k suwa dahshatgardi k alwa musalmano ne kya kuya haii…meri najar me ghruni panth hai ye dharm nahi…

  49. mahabharat ka anusasan parv pdhiye usme to pura five star hotal ki trh pura menu diya gaya he. aap satya ko swikar ni krte ho .. sch me … jb astya satya se takrayega to adhram ka sarvnash ho jayega…

    • Hahaha…….
      @Dinesh meena ji

      दिन मेँ स्वप्न क्योँ देख रहे हैँ।

      क्या आप उसी जाकिर नालायक की बात कर रहेँ हैँ जिसको लखनऊ मेँ न आने के लिए स्वयं मुसलमान भाईयोँ व इमाम साहिब ने पुरजोर विरोध कर धरती का बोझ कहा था, और ये घुसपैठ भी नहीँ कर पाया।

      क्या विडंम्बना है?
      ॐ!!

  50. Brahaman to tapaswi hai {brahamacharini devi ke bareme padho} 5 yama aur 5 niyam unake liye hai jisame Ahinsa pratham tatwa hai is bare me socho. brahaman aur kshatriya dono yadnya karate the. kshtriya khudke liye yadnya karaneka adhikari the. phir sochiye.

  51. राजा रन्तिदेव की कहानी झूठ और मनगढ़ंत है और कपटी मांसाहारी ब्राह्मणों के दिमाग की उपज है | आर्षग्रंथ वेदों के विपरीत महाभारत एक अनार्ष ग्रंथ है जबकि वेद तर्क, प्रमाणों, अनुमानों और उपमा आदि तथ्यों पर आधारित है |

    • @darshan ji
      ॐ!
      सर्वप्रथम यह मालूम होना चाहिए कि वाकई महाभारत मूल रूप मेँ उपलब्ध है या नहीँ?

      वास्तविकता यह है कि महर्षि वेदव्यास जी ने सर्वप्रथम मात्र 6000 श्लोँको की “जय संहिता” रची थी, परिवर्तन के फलस्वरूप कालान्तर मेँ जब श्लोँको की संख्या 24000 हो गयी, तो इसका नाम “भारत” पड़ा। तत्पश्चात्‌ जब इनमेँ मिलावट का क्रम बाद मेँ भी जारी रहा तो इसके श्लोँको की संख्या कुल मिलाकर 1 लाख हो गयी, इसके द्वितीयमूल ‘भारत’ ग्रन्थ की विशालता के कारण इसे “महाभारत” कहा जाने लगा।

      इस प्रकार हम देखते हैं कि वैदिक साहित्य का सबसे प्रक्षेपित साहित्य महाभारत ही है। इसमेँ मिलावट रोकने की कोई कारगर विधि नहीँ है, जैसा कि वेदोँ मेँ पाई जाती है।

      अतः महाभारत मेँ जो कुछ भी आपत्तिजनक चीज मिल भी जाती है, तो इसमेँ आपत्ति नहीँ होनी चाहिए।

      जैसा कि उपरोक्त लेख मेँ वर्णित हैँ कि राजा रन्तिदेव पूर्णतया निर्दोष हैँ, तथा उनपर गौहत्या का दोष लगाना पूर्णतः मानसिक दुराग्रह ही है।

      मतान्ध मूल्ले सनातन ग्रन्थोँ पर आक्षेप मढ़ने के लिए जितना कुतर्क लगाते हैँ, शायद उससे थोड़ा कम ही अपनी कुरान पर लगायेँ, तो वे यहीँ खड़े अर्थोँ मेँ जन्नत हासिल कर लेँगे।

      ॐ!!

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