No Beef in Vedas

This article is also available in Hindi at http://agniveer.com/no-beef-in-vedas-part2-hi/

We had published an analysis of the allegation that Vedas have references of beef-eating and animal sacrifice in http://agniveer.com/68/no-beef-in-vedas/ . We provided ample evidences in this work that:

a. Vedas are completely against animal killing and violence on innocent creatures

b. Vedic Yajna is by definition non-violent and animal sacrifice is against Vedic precepts

c. Contrary to claims of beef consumption in Vedas, there are references that call for protection of cows and destruction of those who kill this most productive and harmless animal.

Thankfully after the publication of this work, the slanderous campaign against Vedas has lost its teeth significantly and no reasonable rebuttal to the content of the work ever surfaced. However, a few minor voices have continued to mislead people on this issue using splinter quotes from translations of Vedic literature by incompetent western indologists and juxtaposing them with their own agenda. In this work, we would attempt to address some of those allegations and make the two part work a reasonable single point reference to counter any such misled campaign in future. For those desiring a more detailed exposition, we have already provided a list of references at the end of Part 1 of the work.

So lets begin:

Allegation:

It is well-known that animal sacrifice was necessary in Yajna. Vedas are full of praise of Yajnas.

Agniveer:

Yajna word is derived from root ‘Yaj’ by adding Nan pratyaya. Yaj root has three meanings : Devapuja (behaving appropriately with the entities around- worshipping Eeshvar, respecting parents, keeping the environment clean etc are few examples), Sangatikaran (Unity) and Daan (Charity). As per Vedas, these form the primary duty of human beings and hence Yajna is so emphasized not only in Vedas but in almost entire Indian literature of ancient era.

What is important however is the fact that Yajna has no reference to animal killing whatsoever. In fact, Nirukta (Vedic vocabulary) clearly states in 2.7 that Yajna is called Adhwara. Dhwara means violence and hence it is totally banned in Yajna.

In other words, forget about animal killing, any kind of violence – through mind, body or voice – is completely banned in Yajna.

Adhwara is used to imply Yajna in a large number of mantras in the Vedas. For example, Rigveda 1.1.4, 1.1.8, 1.14.21, 1.128.4, 1.19.1, Atharvaveda 4.24.3, 18.2.2, 1.4.2, 5.12.2, 19.42.4.  Around 43 mantras in Yajurveda refer to Adhwara.

In fact Yajurveda 36.18 clearly states that “May I look upon everyone – Sarvaani Bhootani (and not only human beings) with friendly eyes.”

Thus, Vedas, nowhere justify animal sacrifice and on contrary condemn any form of violence on innocent beings.

Historically, there may have been prevalence of animal sacrifice, but that has nothing to do with content of Vedas. Many Muslim girls and boys have been working as vulgar models and actresses in film industry. In fact in Bollywood, most top actors and actresses have been Muslims. This does not necessarily mean Quran justifies vulgarity. Similarly, adultery and pre-marital sex is widespread in Christian countries. This does not mean Bible demands them to indulge in these vices.

In same vein, while animal sacrifice may have been an historical phenomenon due to decadence of Vedic values, we openly challenge anyone to cite even one single reference from Vedas that talk of animal sacrifice in Yajna.

Allegation:

If that be so, what about Ashwamedha, Naramedha, Ajamedha, Gomedha yajnas? Medha means killing and Vedas even justify Naramedha (human sacrifice).

Agniveer:

We have already discussed in Part 1 that the word medha does not necessarily mean slaughter. It denotes an act done in accordance to the intellect. Alternatively it could mean consolidation or nurturing, as evident from the root meaning of medha i.e. medhru san-ga-me (refer Dhatupath)

When we already know that Yajnas are supposed to be Adhwara or non-violent, why should we take Medha to mean violence? Don’t we call an intelligent person – Medhaavi or name our daughters Medhaa. Do we imply they are violent people or intelligent persons?

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Shatpath 13.1.6.3 and 13.2.2.3 clearly states that:

A Yajna dedicated to the glory, wellbeing and prosperity of the Rashtra the nation or empire is known as the Ashwamedh yajna. Thus likes of Ram Prasad Bismil, Ashfaq, Netaji, Shivaji, Tilak etc performed Ashwamedha Yajna.

To keep the food pure or to keep the senses under control, or to make a good use of the rays of Sun or keep the earth free from impurities[clean] is called Gomedha Yajna. The word Gau also means the Earth and the yajna dedicated to keep the Earth the environment clean is called Gomedha Yajna. (refer Nighantu 1.1, and Shatpath 13.15.3).

The cremation of the body of a dead person in accordance with the principles laid down in the Vedas is called Naramedha Yajna. Dedicated efforts for training and productivity of people is also Naramedha Yajna or Purushmedha Yajna or Nriyajna.

Aja means grains. So Ajamedha Yajna refers to increasing agricultural productivity or in a very narrow sense : using grains in Agnihotra. Refer Shantiparva 337.4-5.

Vishnu Sharma in Panchatantra (Kakoliyam) clearly states that those who perform animal sacrifice in Yajna are fools because they do not understand Vedas properly. If one goes to Heaven by animal sacrifice, what could be the path to go to Hell!

Mahabharat Shantiparva has two shlokas in Shantiparva that those who state that Yajna contain alcohol, fish or meat are frauds, atheists and devoid of knowledge of Shastras. (263.6, 265.9)

Allegation:

What about Yajurveda 24.29 which uses words ‘Hastina Aalambhate’ that means sacrifice of elephants?

Agniveer:

Who told you that Alambha derived from Labha root means sacrifice or killing? Labha means to acquire or gain. While Hastina has a deeper meaning beyond elephant, even if we take it to mean elephant in this mantra, it only says that the king should acquire elephants for nurture of his kingdom. What is so violent about it?

Alambha is used in several places to mean ‘acquire’ or ‘gain’. For example, Manusmriti prohibits indulging in women for Brahmacharis by saying ” Varjayet Streenam Alambham”.

Thus this conjecture is completely out of place. May be those who concocted Aalambhate to mean killing in Vedic mantras were themselves addicted  to killing animals for food and hence their first instinct of deriving benefits from animals was to imply killing them.

Allegation:

But what about ‘Sanjyapan’ used in Brahmana and Shraut texts to mean sacrifice?

Agniveer:

Refer Atharvaveda 6.10.94.95 which says that we should do Sanjyapan of mind, body and heart. Does it mean we should commit suicide! Sanjyapan simply means unity and nurture. The mantra says that we should strengthen our mind, body and heart and ensure they work in unity. Sanjyapan also means ‘to inform’.

Allegation:

You are escaping every time from being trapped. But no more. What do you have to say about Yajurveda 25.34-35 / Rigveda 1.162.11-12 which states that:

“What from thy body which with fire is roasted, when thou art set upon the spit, distilleth,— Let not that lie on earth or grass neglected, but to the longing Gods let all be offered.”

“They who, observing that the Horse is ready, call out and say, The smell is good; remove it; And, craving meat, await the distribution,—may their approving help promote our labour.”

Very clearly there is explicit description of horse sacrifice.

Agniveer:

We believe you have quoted from the trash works of Griffith.

The first has no reference to horse. It simply means that when people are suffering due to high temperatures/ fever, the doctors should care for them and provide them treatment.

In second mantra, all he did was to assume that Vaajinam word means ‘horse’. However, ‘Vajinam’ means a brave/strong/ dynamic/ fast entity. Thus horse is also known as Vaajinam. There can be many interpretations of the mantras, however none lead to horse sacrifice.

In fact, even if we mean that Vaajinam means horse, still the very verse in fact means that those who attempt to kill horses (Vajinam) should be prevented from doing so. We strongly recommend reviewing the translation by Swami Dayanand Saraswati for these mantras.

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Also, refer to huge number of mantras provided in Part 1 of the article (http://agniveer.com/68/no-beef-in-vedas/ ) that explicitly prohibit animal killing and severe punishment for animal killers – especially killers of horses and cows.

Allegation:

What about reference to Goghna or killing of cows in Vedas? What about Atithigva/ Atithigna or a person who served beef to guests?

Agniveer:

In Part 1, we gave ample references of cow being Aghnya or Aditi – not worthy of being killed. We also gave references of strict punishment in Vedas for those who destroy cows.

Gam root means ‘to go’. That is why planets are also called ‘Go’ because they move. Atithigna/ Atithigva means one who goes towards the guest or serves his guests sincerely.

Goghna has several meanings. Even if we take ‘Go’ to mean cow, Goghna means Go+Han : Approaching cow. (Han root means Movement and Knowledge apart from Violence).

There are many references in Vedas where Han is used for approaching and not killing, For example, Atharvaveda states “Husband should Han-approach the wife.”

Thus these allegations are equally baseless.

Allegation:

Vedas talk of not killing young cows. But old barren cows (Vashaa) are supposed to be killed. Similarly, Uksha or bulls should be killed as per Vedas.

Agniveer:

This hypothesis was popularized in recent times by yet another pseudo-scholar D N Jha to defend his assertion of beef-eating in Vedas despite obvious contradictions that come up because of verses in Vedas that state the exact opposite. With home-grown defective pieces, who needs enemies from outside!

The fact is that Uksha refers to a medicinal herb, also known as Soma. Even someone like Monier Williams in his Sanskrit-English Dictionary states the same.

Vashaa refers to controlling powers of God and not a barren cow. If Vasha is used to mean a barren cow, then many Vedic verses will make no sense.

For example, Atharvaveda 10.10.4 uses Sahasradhara or Thousand flows in relation with Vasha. How can a barren cow be compared with Sahasradhara used to denote ample food, milk and water.

Atharvaveda 10.190 states that Vashi means controlling power of God and is recited twice daily in Vedic Sandhya.

In other verses, Vashaa is used also as productive land or a good wife with children (Atharvaveda 20.103.15) or a medicinal herb. Monier Williams also uses the word to mean a herb in his dictionary.

We fail to understand which divine inspiration prompted these pseudo-scholars to concoct that Vashaa means a barren cow.

Allegation:

Brihadaranyak Upanishad 6.4.18 clearly states that if a couple desires a noble son, they should eat Meat with rice (Mansodanam) or Bull (Arshabh) or Calf (Uksha).

Agniveer:

1. Now that there is nothing to show in Vedas, focus of allegation has shifted to Upanishads. But even if one is able to prove beef eating in Upanishads, that still does not prove that there is beef in Vedas. And the foundation of Hinduism is that Vedas are supreme. Refer Purva Meemansa 1.3.3, Manusmriti 2.13, Manusmriti 12.95, Jabalasmriti, Bhavishya Puran etc which clearly state that if there is discrepancy between Vedas and other Shastras, then Vedas are considered supreme and the rest is rejected.

2. Having said this, we will show that the particular references from Brihadaranyak has been misinterpreted.

3. Let us take Mansodanam first. There are 4 more verses just before this verse that recommend eating particular edibles with rice for having a child with Vedic wisdom of different types. The other edibles are: Ksheerodanam (Milk with rice), Dadhyodanam (Yogurt with rice), Water with rice and Tila (a pulse) with rice for experts in other Vedas. Thus it is ONLY for mastery of Atharvaveda that Mansodanam or meat with rice is recommended. This itself shows that the particular reference is an anomaly.

4. In reality, the right word is Mashodanam and NOT Mansodanam. Masha means a kind of pulse. Hence there is nothing fleshy about it. In fact, for pregnant women, meat is completely prohibited as per Ayurveda. Refer Sushruta Samhita. There is also a verse in Sushrut Samhita that recommends Masha for husband and wife for a good son. Thus it is obvious that Brihadaranyaka has also explained the same concept as elucidated in Sushruta Samhita. There is no reason why the two texts would differ in Masha and Mansa.

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5. Even if someone asserts that it is not Masha but Mansa, still Mansa means pulp and not necessarily meat. There are ample usages of Mansa as pulp in ancient texts. Thus Amramansam means pulp of mango. Khajuramansam means pulp of date. Refer Charak Samhita for such examples. Taittriya Samhita 2.32.8 uses Mansa for curd, honey and corn.

6. We have already seen that Uksha means a herb or Soma, even as per Monier Williams Dictionary. The same dictionary also lists Rishabh (from which Arshabh is derived) to mean a kind of medicinal plant (Carpopogan pruriens). Charak Samhita 1.4-13 lists Rishabh as a medicinal plant. Same is mentioned in Sushrut Samhita 38 and Bhavaprakash Purna Khanda.

7. Further both Arshabh (Rishabh) and Uksha mean bull and none means ‘calf’. So why were synonyms used to mention the same thing in the shloka from Brihadaranyak. This is like saying, one should eat either curd or yogurt! Thus, obviously the two words mean two different things. And considering that all the other verses mention herbs and pulses, these words also mean the same.

Allegation:

What about Mahabharat Vana Parva 207 that explicitly states that King Rantideva used to have Yajnas where huge number of cows used to be killed?

Agniveer:

Again, as mentioned previously, if there is dispute between Vedas and any other text, then Vedas are considered supreme. Further, Mahabharat is a grossly interpolated and adulterated text and hence not considered authority in itself.

The allegation of cow-killing at Rantideva’s palace is a fraud allegation refuted decades ago by several scholars.

1. Anushasan Parva 115 lists Rantideva as one of the kings who never consumed meat. How can that be possible if beef was amply available at his palace?

2. We have already proven that Mansa does not necessarily mean meat.

3. The particular shloka alleges that each day 2000 cows were killed. This means more than 720,000 cows were killed each year. Is it logical to take such a shloka seriously?

4. Mahabharat Shantiparva 262.47 asserts that one who kills cows or bulls is a great sinner. The same Mahabharat calls King Rantideva a great saint and pious person. How can there be such a blatant contradiction in same text?

5. In reality, the shlokas have been distorted by misled scholars like Rahul Sankrityayana who are known for their Vedas bashing. Rahul Sankrityayana deliberately quoted only 3 lines of the verse and left 1 line from Dronaparva Chapter 67 first two shlokas. He misinterpreted Dwishatsahasra to mean 2000 when it actually means 200 thousand. This itself shows his competence in Sanskrit.

None of these lines have any reference to beef. And when combined with 4th line that he deliberately missed, it means that Rantideva had 200,000 cooks in his kingdom who used to serve good food (rice, pulses, cooked food, sweets etc) day and night to guests and scholars.

Then the word ‘Masha’ from the next shloka was changed to ‘Mansa’ to imply that it talked of beef.

6. On contrary there are ample verses in Mahabharat which talk of non-violence and condemn beef eating. Further they praise charity of cows and their nurture.

7. Fools have interpreted Badhyate to mean killing. However this is not so as per any Sanskrit text on grammar or usage. Badhyate means to control.

Thus, there is no way that one can prove that King Rantideva used to have cows killed.

To conclude, all allegations of beef or meat in Vedas or Vedic texts are merely desperate attempts by perverted minds to project their own vices on the most noble texts of the world.

May the light of wisdom enlighten their minds and may we all together make the world a sensible place.

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Karthik
Karthik
4 months 3 days ago

I feel so proud of being a Hindu. Thank you so much Agniveer. Due to my foolishness I was getting attracted to Islam by watch Naiks videos. Thank you so much for bringing the truth here in your website. Keep up the good work.

Soura
Soura
11 months 1 day ago
I think you misinterpreted Sanskrit in several places. Medha (मेध) means a sacrificial animal/victim/power/essence. Ashwamedha (or ashwamedh) ritual meant symbolic killing of desire. Naramedh yajna was the name of sacrificial pyre constructed for a hindu’s death ritual. It is different and differently pronounced from medhā (मेधा), which means intelligence. “History… Read more »
Agniveer Agni
11 months 1 day ago
1. Medh and Medha come from same root. Refer Dhatupath. 2. Root of Medh means Sangam -integration or consolidation. or empowerment Naramedh Yajna “also” refers to death ritual because in process of cremation, the elements of human body get united with nature. But that does not mean that Naramedha does… Read more »
Soura
Soura
10 months 29 days ago
“Vedas are clear – cow-killing is a foolishness and crime committed against nature. Further, the majority of current era Hindus are thankfully not stupid enough to kill cows. They are wise enough to worship cow. They should be even more wise to protect and take care of cows of all… Read more »
Agniveer Agni
10 months 29 days ago
1. Now you moved from Sanskrit to a new argument that has already been thrashed by us in more than 150 pages of content. 2. You are also not thekedar of Hinduism. But we are owners of this site. We have full freedom to speak whatever we desire to on… Read more »
Virendra
Virendra
11 months 4 hours ago

Do you suggest any measures that could be taken at any level to make old cows, bulls economically viable for poor farmers and villagers?
That could really check slaughter in a big way.

Sunita
Sunita
10 months 28 days ago
Yes. There is one suggestion. If we can have a biogas plant in every city, there will not be any stray old cow or bull or any other dairy animal on the road. All the old cows, bulls and other stray dairy animals should be raised there and their dung… Read more »
Sarfaraz Ahmed
Sarfaraz Ahmed
1 year 5 months ago
Dear agniveer, i appreciate your knowledge about the religions i have some questions at the moment. *what is the purpose of human life according to you or any other best religion. *in your explanations you mentioned that at certain point of time god made some thing but why donnot you… Read more »
Agniveer Agni
1 year 5 months ago
@Sarfaraz: Of course God is beyond all forms of imagination or even non-imagination. But human mind can relate to world through senses and intellect alone. That is why humans create various models to interpret the reality beyond imagination. This is true for models of physics as well as God. No… Read more »
Agniveer Agni
1 year 5 months ago
If God is beyond imagination. Even thinking that God is beyond imagination will not help understand God. So what matters is not how you define God. What matters is the deeds you do to purify your mind so as to experience God. Fools argue over characteristics of God. Wise live… Read more »
iqubal
iqubal
1 year 7 months ago
Rigveda (10/85/13) declares, “On the occasionofa girl’s marriageoxen and cowsareslaughtered.” Rigveda (6/17/1) states that “Indraused to eat the meat ofcow, calf, horse and buffalo.” Vashistha Dharmasutra(11/34) writes, “If a Brahminrefuses to eat the meat offered to him on the occasionof‘Shraddha’ orworship, he goes to hell.” Also, comments ofsome great scholarsof… Read more »
Agniveer Agni
1 year 7 months ago

You have not read part 1 of this article. Or else you would not have had this doubt. Please read http://agniveer.com/no-beef-in-vedas/ where these baseless allegations on Vedas have been refuted.

Samrat Chakaborty
Samrat Chakaborty
3 years 4 months ago

Agniveer, where is my reply to Darshan Sharma.

You are acting in a biased manner against Proud Hindus who are Non Vegetarians.

Thats not done

Agniveer Agni
3 years 4 months ago

Refer http://agniveer.com/terms/comment-policy/ . All comments of more than 2000 characters get moderated to prevent spamming.

Samrat Chakraborty
Samrat Chakraborty
3 years 4 months ago
Agniveer, I am Big Fan of Yours & I appreciate your effort in preaching the message of Vedas & continuing the Work of Swami Dayananda. However on this topic, I find you working too hard dissecting grammar proving Cow eating is not in Vedas. On all other Topics (I receive… Read more »
Agniveer Agni
3 years 4 months ago
Thanks brother for your kind words. We would like to reemphasize that Agniveer does not expect everyone to agree with it completely or partially. On contrary, we simply attempt to trigger the process of self-discovery within. On matter of beef and Vedas, our study proves without doubt that there is… Read more »
Samrat Chakraborty
Samrat Chakraborty
3 years 4 months ago
Ok, Thanks for the detailed reply. Vedas reccomend Cow slaughter or not may be debatable, But ancient texts like charakasamhita & Sushruta Samhita mention about meat consumption & cattle meat also. Someplaces its reccomended for body. I understand that Milking Cow is a very good economic & nutritional blessing for… Read more »
Sudeep Acharya
3 years 4 months ago
@ Samrat bro almost everything has been clarified by Darshan bro. Also Vedas are the only supreme authority for us, so we need to deny if something does not match to any sacred text.Vedas are only authentic and govern us. Please let the discovery of your soul begin and you… Read more »
Darshan Sharma
Darshan Sharma
3 years 4 months ago
Q 1. ‘Whats the solution due to overgrazing of non milk cattle ?’ Quewstion is not clear. If it is about old and infirm cattles then they too have right to live. Neel gayen can be sterilized to check their population and harm caused to crops. It a same sin… Read more »
krishnarao
krishnarao
3 years 4 months ago

Very good questions bro. I look forward to the answers as well.

Bhavesh Merja
Bhavesh Merja
3 years 4 months ago
Swami Vivekananda’s thoughts on Flesh-food and Mahatma Gandhi’s comments: [Once a gentleman, after reading Swami Vivekananda’s thoughts supporting meat-eating, referred his dilemma to Mahatma Gandhi. Gandhiji offered his valuable guidance on this issue which was published in the 7-10-1926 issue of “Young India”. Same is reproduced below for the knowledge… Read more »
VAMSHI
VAMSHI
3 years 4 months ago

namaskar ji.I have a small question.In RUDRA PRASHNA it was said like so——”ARAATTE GOGHNA UTA PURUSHAGHNA KSHAYADVEERA——–and so” .Would you please explain the correct meaning of this line and prove that this is against GOVADHA?

ASLAM
ASLAM
3 years 4 months ago

sanjeev did u ever seen women fighting, they never agree they are wrong, just like biochemical reaction u mentioned up there, i think u should learn first Sanskrit, and then vedas, mahabharat, ramayan .

krishnarao
krishnarao
3 years 4 months ago

I have seen men behave the same way. Dont’ stereo type fool.

G.N.KRISHNASWAMY
G.N.KRISHNASWAMY
3 years 5 months ago
Never , never , & never in the OUR Vedhas beef is recommended ; it is falsely , misquoted by the ill born MINORITIES deliberately , only to defame OUR OWN Sanathan Dharma/Hinduism ! It is highly appreciated that such elaborate postings with FIRM PROTESTING MIND is posted in public… Read more »
kaustubh
kaustubh
3 years 5 months ago

Horse sacrifice was part of ancient persian traditions , excavations in persian and central asia show horse bones . It must not have been tradition of India.

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vijnasu
vijnasu
3 years 8 months ago

Atharvaveda 10.190 states that Vashi means controlling power of God and is recited twice daily in Vedic Sandhya.
I suspect some typo in this statement. Not getting reference to Atharvaveda 10.190? Can I get the proper verse?

Vijnasu
Vijnasu
3 years 8 months ago
Got it, Please correct the typo: its not in Atharva , its in Rigveda. RV_10,190.01a ṛtaṃ ca satyaṃ cābhīddhāt tapaso ‘dhy ajāyata | RV_10,190.01c tato rātry ajāyata tataḥ samudro arṇavaḥ || RV_10,190.02a samudrād arṇavād adhi saṃvatsaro ajāyata | RV_10,190.02c ahorātrāṇi vidadhad viśvasya miṣato vaśī || RV_10,190.03a sūryācandramasau dhātā yathāpūrvam akalpayat… Read more »
Vijnasu
Vijnasu
3 years 8 months ago

One more typo: (AVŚ_20,130.15) vaśāyāḥ putram ā yanti || has been given as Atharvaveda 20.103.15, correct it.

krishna
krishna
3 years 10 months ago
I have a question for agniveer. vedas is holy and was handed by divine is all fine but why is that only we the people from India only recieved it from the almighty,if the vedas were intended to guide our human life why only we got the chance to have… Read more »
aditya
aditya
3 years 10 months ago
You can’t say WE Indians are blessed. It is all Karma .Just that if you are born in India , you are having more opportunities to know about the vedas. There are even extreme cases like foreigners learning the vedas And Indian Brahamins Knowing nothing about Vedas P.S I am… Read more »
ganesh
ganesh
3 years 10 months ago
vedas got to 4 humans at start of human civilization who were ancestors of whole world ..So it is common to all….Then after that ,people started to migrate to other regions of world and forgot vedas ..India is the only country which is still having tradition to teach it verbally..So… Read more »
anti-agni
anti-agni
3 years 10 months ago
@falsehood seeker, i have read your comment in one of any agni’s article that you were asking to Mr. agni “I am searching that if meat is not meant for human consumption then how could he eat and digest it ie why eswra not made us only veg eater”. have… Read more »
Kanagaraj Easwaran
3 years 4 months ago
Dear Antiagni, You are distinguishing animals and human beings. But biologically speaking human beings are animals of herbivorous variety. You are saying we can only eat cooked food. But you have to remember we can eat raw food fruits and vegetables without cooking. Cooking is necessary when we eat the… Read more »
Sanatan Dharma
Sanatan Dharma
3 years 10 months ago

@Anti-Agni
Do not repeat. You have already said that.
HERE is my challenge to you
http://agniveer.com/mother-woman/#comment-33293

hinduagnostic
hinduagnostic
3 years 10 months ago

keep it up

Raj
Raj
3 years 11 months ago
Rigveda 10.28.3 ,Rigveda 10.86.18 ,Rigveda 10.27.2 Clearly justify the killing of beef. Mahabaratha – Shanti Parva -36:22-26 also justify eating meat. Manusmrithi 5.18.5.22,5.23,5.42 etc also justify beef eating. In Aithareya Brahmana Chapter 31.1 you can see the same. In Ramayana you can see it in many chapters. Can anybody explain… Read more »
Pandit Ji
Pandit Ji
3 years 11 months ago
@Raj In the Rigveda mantra 10/27/2 it is stated that:- Oh! God bless me so that I may be able to punish the person who is engaged in crimes like rape, Sex slavery, looting, child-abusing, etc. And like a fatal/violent bull who becomes the destroyer of everything that comes before… Read more »
NAshwin
NAshwin
3 years 11 months ago

Panditji,
Excellent explanation.

Ankur
Ankur
3 years 11 months ago

@Raj : http://aryasamajjamnagar.org/rugveda_v5/rugveda.htm
go to page 52 and see the mantra there 10.28.3 to shut your blabbering

Next time quote the actual Sanskrit mantra with the meaning, to be even considered for a response.

Sampath Kumar
4 years 1 month ago

Because the gestation period of cows is almost exactly the same as for humans, their flesh is vibrationally equivalent to human flesh. Therefore, eating any Bos species, e.g.
B Indicus or B. Taurus, has the same vibrational effect and karmic consequences
as cannibalism!!!

No better reason for avoiding beef !!

Darshan Dyal Sharma
Darshan Dyal Sharma
4 years 8 months ago
Gou also means Gati (Gayatari) and hence the word ‘Go’ in English. Regarding Vaaj‘Vajinam’ means a brave/strong/ dynamic/ fast entity and horse also known Vaajinam, with all respect and appreciation for Agniveerji,I may dare to add the scientists have acquired the word Horse Power and 100CC Vehical means to having… Read more »
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Darshan Dyal Sharma
Darshan Dyal Sharma
4 years 8 months ago

Does Mansa also means fruit juice apart from pulp of medicinal plants.

Sudeep Acharya
3 years 4 months ago

No, ‘maans’ exclusively means fruit pulp and medicines in Vedas.

Sudeep Acharya
3 years 4 months ago

I mean yes you are correct.
I am a stounch vegetarian and I felt something else,sorry for the confusion.

milk is veg and cow is tree
milk is veg and cow is tree
5 years 6 days ago
@satyaasman, no body will answer you, they think milk is veg and so they are vegan if they drink milk? they dont eat egg because it has hidden potential, but conveniently forgot the hidden potential of seeds of vegetables. they have no problem in eating bacteria present in curd, they… Read more »
Aditya
Aditya
4 years 1 month ago
According to Vedas,you should never kill an animal to eat it.This is because it causes pain. Now we don’t kill a cow to get its milk.And moreover Bacterias do not have developed nervous system to feel pain.The reason vedas condemn even eating dead animals is because meat is addictive.Once you… Read more »
Darshan Sharma
4 years 4 months ago
Cow milk is next to human milk for the survival of a child. Its fat granules are smaller and do not import bad cholestrol and suitable for human consumption for all ages. Cow’s ghee never solidifies like buffalo ghee, vegetable ghee & coconut oil. Just shake the milk of cow… Read more »
Totagoto
Totagoto
5 years 1 month ago

Can i know the meaning of Rig Veda 10.89.14?

Vajra
5 years 1 month ago
Namaste Totagoto Indra- O glorious warrior! Te- Your Aghasya- destroyer of evil Chetya- power Kahrrisvit- when Asat- will appear Yat- with which you Rakshah- monsters Bhinadah- kill Mitrkruvo- those who are cruel to our dear ones Eshat- cast terror in them Yat- so that Shasne- in the battlefield Na- just… Read more »
Aditya
Aditya
4 years 1 month ago
Respected Vajra! I have read all the articles in agniveer and i foud out that you are actively participating in the comment section.I have a doubt and I hope you will be able to clarify it. Agniveerji Said “The cremation of the body of a dead person in accordance with… Read more »
Totagoto
Totagoto
4 years 10 months ago

Vajraji another question.

Can i know the meaning of Rig Veda 8.43.11?

Totagoto
Totagoto
5 years 1 month ago

Thanks Vajra Bhai. Joy Dharma

Harshavardhan
Harshavardhan
5 years 4 months ago

http://youtu.be/THIODWTqx5E?hd=1

i tried to add a video resposnce in my earlier comments , but can’t , please tell me how to add them.

Harshavardhan
Harshavardhan
5 years 4 months ago
Harshavardhan
Harshavardhan
5 years 4 months ago

I guess after watching this , everyone will turn veg .

Dipankar
Dipankar
5 years 5 months ago
Any food eaten to man,but whose coocking is imprtant.food was not affected in awareness people because his mentally power was strong. But another people are doing,it was mentally power week and get mind disturbed.any food are same but digestive powers are differnt. all peoples really have nonviolance? Nothing only few… Read more »
sarang
sarang
5 years 5 months ago
dharma_thug
5 years 5 months ago
Muslims can eat pork because its only a warning by Prophet Mohammad that its unclean. But remember Sanatan Dharma followers….when in our ancient times ,women used to die due to child birth,our children only survived on the milk of a cow. Killing it and eating it is the worst thing… Read more »
Darshan Sharma
4 years 4 months ago
Cow milk is next to human milk for the survival of a child. Cow milk fat granules are smaller and do not import bad cholestrol and suitable for human beings of all ages. Cow’s ghee never solidifies like buffalo ghee, vegetable ghee & coconut oil. Just shake the milk of… Read more »
Arup from bangladesh
Arup from bangladesh
5 years 5 months ago

Agniveerji what about the people who live the land where no vegetables are grown.

Amitesh
Amitesh
5 years 5 months ago

Arup,

Even chickens and goats can’t survive in areas where vegetables can’t be grown due to climatic conditions. They are imported and the same can be done with vegetables

dharma_thug
5 years 5 months ago
dharma_thug
5 years 5 months ago
nice …..but the worst enemy of a Hindu is a hindu himself.there r many distorted Hindus who eat beef . They don’t budge upon explaining to them as well.The best example is Hindus frm kerala.Many of them eat beef in kerala.The fact is they don’t know ,I guess or they… Read more »
milk is veg and cow is tree
milk is veg and cow is tree
5 years 6 days ago
@dharm, i really want that peoples in india should not eat cow and i always request muslims of india that please stop cow meat because of hindus sentiments. today i also request to every muslim that please stop cow meat eating in idia, i also request to the hindus of… Read more »
Satyen
Satyen
3 years 10 months ago
Namaste MIVCIT, Please don’t give an impression that many Hindus in many of the states of India consume beef. How many Biharis have you come across consuming beef? Though there may be exceptions, they will definitely Christians with Hindu names. Moreover, Nagaland has above 90% Christians with less than 5%… Read more »
anti-agni
anti-agni
3 years 10 months ago
@satyen, your name is satya and you should use stya information…you should visit kerala, karnataka, WB, and bihar once and then let us know that what is reality. as far as my knowledge is concerned most of the hindus of those states are non-vegetarian. for your kind information I have… Read more »
Sanatan Dharma
Sanatan Dharma
3 years 10 months ago

@anti-agni
Brother, we should not engage in other things like trashing Hinduism, Christianity, Buddhism etc.. Our first priority should be to destroy Islam. Islam is totally false. If you do not know this, I will prove you this.

Vajra
5 years 6 days ago
Namaste MIVCIT It looks nice for that at least your name’s abbreviation resembles the name of some private Engg. college situated in the outskirts of Delhi and Mumbai 🙂 But unfortunately your arguments do not rise up from Madarsa level 🙁 Though I appreciate your concerns for Hindu sentiments, I… Read more »
Darshan Sharma
4 years 4 months ago
Cow milk is next to human milk for the survival of a child. Its fat granules are smaller and do not import bad cholestrol and suitable for human consumption for all ages. Cow’s ghee never solidifies like buffalo ghee, vegetable ghee & coconut oil. Just shake the milk of cow… Read more »
Vajra
5 years 5 months ago
Namaste Brother dharma_thug Agree with you completely. Hindus have to come out of the mentality of accepting everything in the name of diversity. Philosophical and intellectual differences are indeed the strength of any belief system but when people start violating basic principles like non violence and truth in the name… Read more »
dharma_thug
5 years 5 months ago

True bro,but really there is nothing we can do I guess.Sri Krishna promised tat whenever there is an increase in irreligious practices or non righteous practices,he will come again.
I guess we have to wait for him.

sanatanseeker
sanatanseeker
5 years 6 months ago

thanx a lot Agniveer ji…:)

truth seeker
truth seeker
5 years 6 months ago
Namaste Agniveer Ji, One thing I would like to say that I have seen the people around me who are spending Lacs of rupees for katha’s like Bhagawat katha, Ram katha if so much money we would have spend for spreading Vedic Gyan than we would have found a great… Read more »
Darshan Sharma
Darshan Sharma
3 years 9 months ago
आपके सन्देश से मुझे प्रेरणा मिली | अनुग्रह स्वीकार करें | अविद्या अर्थात इग्नोरेंस ही सब दुखों का कारण है | दुखों की अत्यंत निवृति ही मोक्ष है जो इस जीवन में अभ्युदय के लिये हमें संसारिक कर्मों में हमें मुक्त रखता हैं और अपने, पारिवारिक और रिश्ते – नातों… Read more »
truth seeker
truth seeker
5 years 6 months ago
Namaste Agniveer Ji, Indeed Very Good article, I have also taken printouts of your article which are in Hindi & distributed. This is in English but I have taken print out now I will translate it in Hindi because people around me are not well versed in English. And one… Read more »
sanatanseeker
sanatanseeker
5 years 6 months ago

very good explanation Agniveer ji…it is really helpful in clearing the misconceptions of people.

Can you please tell me where to ask a question, because I can not find place on website where I can ask a question.

Agniveer
5 years 6 months ago

There is an Ask Agniveer section on right column. http://agniveer.com/faq/

DINESH
DINESH
5 years 6 months ago
saroj
saroj
5 years 4 months ago

GOOD EXCELLENT WONDERFUL

Rushmore
Rushmore
5 years 6 months ago
Agniveer, While the translation of the entire body of Vedas to English will take a while, can we atleast translate some of the the most misinterpreted translations that are making rounds, at the earliest? For example the Griffifth version uses a bunch of verses in translations in Latin and asininity… Read more »
ashwani
ashwani
5 years 6 months ago

one more undoubtly great article, agniveerji can u plz refer somethin in shiviasm that prohibts this….

Harsh Vora
Harsh Vora
5 years 6 months ago

Agniveer — The options for ‘Print’ and ‘PDF’ view do not seem to work. Can you please fix this so I can save a PDF copy of this article for future reference? Dhanyawaad!

Agniveer
5 years 6 months ago

Please check if its works now.

smital
smital
5 years 6 months ago
great piece of work….now that agniveer ji has pointed out all the points lets see what other verses they have in order to forcely fit meat eating in vedas.nlets see if dr. zakir nayak has got any allegations left for it or not…..he will be left with no words ha… Read more »
Naveen
Naveen
5 years 6 months ago

Excellent article,
I have became vegetarian in days, after going thru the various articles here.
Thanks Agniveer Team.

roger
roger
5 years 6 months ago

Another feather in the cap. Great Article. Thanks a lot.

Vik
Vik
5 years 6 months ago
Another masterpiece, thanks alot to the Agniveer Admin Team once again! To all my brothers and sisters: Please join me and propagate these good articles all around you either using facebook, twitter, or youtube. Agniveer Team has worked extremely hard with great effort to write and publish these masterpieces, now… Read more »
Bangladeshi Hindu
5 years 6 months ago
Dear Agniveer, A great Rebuttul by you against those evangelists. Take my greetings from the core of my heart. You are doing a great job. Your website has helped me to fight against Islamic Jehadies and Christian Evangelists in face to face or in internet forum. But the problem is… Read more »
Atman
Atman
5 years 6 months ago
@ Bangladeshi Hindu Translating Ved into english is indeed a very herculian task!! because its not just about translating the Verses once, you also have to provide the multiple interpretations of the same verse and explain How it holds its meaning in the physical world awa spiritual or Philosophical world.… Read more »
Agniveer
5 years 6 months ago
Thats a project we want to undertake sincerely. But it would take significant time and resources as it has to be done from scratch. There are 20,000 mantras. We will have to employ at least 10 competent scholars for 6 months full time to realize this project. Should cost around… Read more »
Sabita
Sabita
5 years 6 months ago

TO Totagoto
My understanding is you can eat all vegetables ,fruits ,grains and milk products .We should not consume animal and animal products.

Truth Seeker
Truth Seeker
4 years 8 months ago
For All Must read Difference between Veg & non-Veg १. रात को जागना और दिन में छिपकर रहना । १. रात को विश्राम करना और दिन में जागना । २. तेजी और बेचैनी का होना । २. तेजी और बेचैनी का न होना । ३. अपना भोजन बिना चबाये निगल… Read more »
anti-agni
anti-agni
3 years 10 months ago
@falsehood seeker, i have read your comment in one of any agni’s article that you were asking to Mr. agni “I am searching that if meat is not meant for human consumption then how could he eat and digest it ie why eswra not made us only veg eater”. have… Read more »
som
som
8 months 14 days ago
Bro look at yourself and other meat eaters of this earth and you will get your answer, look at your teeth structure,, however those who talks science while defending meat eating , for them —- why you dont support eating of humans scientifically ?? Now if you try to search… Read more »
kunal
kunal
7 months 20 days ago

som,bhai jis gadhe ne comment kiya hai,ussey oocho what is use of beleiving in same false book of nomads of arab and then bombing school of innocent children

Darshan
Darshan
3 years 10 months ago
पारसी लोग अपने शवों को गीधों के खाने के लिए छोड़ देते हैं | आपके अनुसार तो शवों को खा लेने में कोई हर्ज़ नहीं होना चाहिये | वैसे भी आघोरी मरघटों में मुदों का मॉस भक्षण करते हैं | मांसाहार एक तरह की हिंसा ही है और मांसभक्षी हिंसक… Read more »
Khan John
3 years 9 months ago
All these are ( oot patang kee baaten hai) Don’t be against any religion Search the truth God is one and we should follow the instruction of which are available in the religious books. Vedas are vast knowledge for all human being not specially for INDIANS. As per your attitude… Read more »
Darshan Sharma
Darshan Sharma
3 years 9 months ago

अगर स्वामी शंकराचार्य सारे भारत में सनातन धर्म कि क्रांति ल सकता है तो फिर कोई वैदिक सनातन धर्मं का प्रचार क्यूँ केरल, बंगाल, असाम और अन्य प्रान्तों में कर सकता है

Slave of holy Prophet (SAW)
Slave of holy Prophet (SAW)
3 years 10 months ago

@anti-agn
Brother, these grass eater Hindu do not know test of meat. So, it is useless to make them understand test of meat.

anti-agni
anti-agni
3 years 10 months ago
@darshan, afsos h ki logic aur science ki baat karne wale aryasamaji moolshabkar ki kitab satyarthprakash par andha vishwas karte hn? Maine kb insaano k khane ki baat ki? Tum lig aise ho ki ya to shaadi mat karo ya phir apni maan beti se bhi karo. tum log eik… Read more »
Truth Seeker
Truth Seeker
4 years 8 months ago
Cont……… १३. सब्जी खाने वाले प्राणी चाहे मनुष्य हों अथवा पशु, पक्षी, भूख से तड़फ कर भले ही मर जायें किन्तु अपने बच्चों की ओर कभी भी बुरी दृष्टि से नहीं देखते । सांप के समान मांसाहारी मनुष्य आदि दुर्भिक्ष में ऐसा कर्ते देख गये हैं कि वे भूख में… Read more »
Totagoto
Totagoto
5 years 6 months ago

Agniveer, Excellent work brother. Sallute to you.

I have a question? I am trying to be a vegeterian now a days. Can I eat onion ?

Indian Agnostic
Indian Agnostic
5 years 6 months ago

Congratulations Totagoto bro for the resolve !

borrowing from Sr. Bacchan’s tweet , if somebody asks you as to why you have stopped eating meat – tell them smilingly that you don’t eat things that have a face 🙂

roger
roger
5 years 6 months ago

congrats bro totagoto. and agniveer ji is right, onion is not a satvic food. it really effect the mind, its excite the senses.

All the best

Agniveer
5 years 6 months ago
Dear Brother, I congratulate you for your decision to be a vegetarian and help save the environment apart from being kind to other living beings and helping remove poverty and hunger from world. Onion definitely is vegetarian. However those indulged in meditation avoid onion because it is not sattvik food.… Read more »
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