Buddhism is often considered to be an anti-Vedic atheist philosophy. While today there are huge number of schools and sects within Buddhism (exceeded perhaps only by Islam in terms of number of divisions, sects, sub-sects within), if we review the original teachings of Gautam Buddha, we find that he was only trying to teach the concepts of Vedas to best of his understanding.

Vocabulary of Buddhism

1. The vocabulary of Buddhism is adopted from prevailing literature.

The word Buddha comes in Mahabharat Shantiparva 193/6 to mean ‘intelligent’.

Bodhisatva has been used for Sri Krishna in Shishupal Vadh 15/58 and its commentary by Vallabhdeva.

Bhikshu again is a word denoting certain sage in Mahabharat Shantiparva 325/24 and Gautam Dharmasutra 3/2.

Shraman comes in Brihadaranyak Upanishad and Gautam Dharmasutra

Nirvana comes from Deval Dharmasutra

and so on.

2. The famous Buddhist chant of Om Mani Padme Hum speaks for itself on glory of Om – that originates from Vedas and is integral part of Hinduism.

 

Vedas in teachings of Mahatma Buddha

3. In Sutta Nipat 192, Mahatma Buddha says that:

Vidwa Cha Vedehi Samechcha Dhammam Na Uchchavacham Gachhati Bhooripanjo.

People allow sense-organs to dominate and keep shuffling between high and low positions. But the scholar who understands Vedas understands Dharma and does not waver.

4. Sutta Nipat 503:

Yo Vedagu Gyanarato Sateema …….

One should support a person who is master of Vedas, contemplative, intelligent, helpful if you desire to inculcate similar traits.

5. Sutta Nipat 1059:

Yam Brahmanam Vedagum Abhijanjya Akinchanam Kamabhave Asattam……

One gets free from worldly pains if he is able to understand a Vedic Scholar who has no wealth and free from attraction towards worldly things.

6. Sutta Nipat 1060:

Vidwa Cha So Vedagu Naro Idha Bhavabhave Sangam Imam Visajja…..

I state that one who understands the Vedas rejects attraction towards the world and becomes free from sins.

7. Sutta Nipat 846:

Na Vedagu Diththia Na Mutiya Sa Manameti Nahi Tanmayoso….

One who knows Vedas does not acquire false ego. He is not affected by hearsay and delusions.

8. Sutta Nipat 458:

Yadantagu Vedagu Yanjakaale Yassahuti Labhe Taras Ijjeti Broomi

I state that one who acquires Ahuti in Havan of a Vedic scholar gets success.

These are just a few examples from works of Mahatma Buddha.

 

Why Mahatma Buddha rejected Vedas

9. Mahatma Buddha did not reject Vedas per se, but the malpractices happening in name of Vedas. For example, if you call someone – He is a Neta of India – today, he may get offended and feel as if you have called him corrupt and manipulative. This is not because Neta word in itself means ‘corrupt’, but because this is what we see of the so-called Netas today.

Similarly, when Mahatma Buddha questioned birth-based casteism, animal sacrifice and other nonsense practices, he was answered that Vedas sanction so. Thus, like any sane morally upright person would do, Mahatma Buddha stated that: “If Vedas sanction these evil practices, then I reject Vedas.”

Had Gautam Buddha obtained an opportunity to study the actual Vedas and not go by the false notions prevailing, he could no way have issued such a statement.

And the country + entire world would have been strong enough to counter barbaric attacks of West/ Central Asian tribals that has resulted in the greatest problem of last 1000 years – terrorism.

10. If you review the basic precepts of Buddhism, they are simply Vedic teachings reworded.

– For example, the 4 cardinal truths on life, suffering, desire, cessation is straight from Yoga and Nyaya Darshan. In fact Nyaya Darshan 1.2 echoes almost the same essence in as many words.

– The 8 fold path is adequately covered in a variety of ways in all ancient texts – Vedas, Manusmriti, Mahabharat and Yoga Darshan for example.

– The emphasis on Ahimsa is adapted from Yoga Darshan that puts Ahimsa as the first essential discipline for progress in Yoga- the process of realizing self and God.

– Theory of rebirth and Law of Karma that Buddhism is built upon finds its foundation in mantras of Vedas. Refer examples in http://agniveer.com/3203/islam-vedas/

– Rejection of birth-based caste-system is also in lines with Vedas. Refer http://agniveer.com/series/caste-system-3/

– Emphasis on meditation is straight adopted from the Yoga Darshan that itself is based on Vedas.

– The 5 commandments for Buddhists and especially monks are from Yoga Darshan 1.2.3

In summary, one can state that Buddhism, as preached by Gautam Buddha, was a system of morality based on Vedas.

11. Mahatma Buddha was not atheist. Atheism developed later. At best, Gautam Buddha can be said to be agnostic. He believed that first and foremost duty is to raise one’s intellect level through practice of moral code of conduct and mind control.
Why was Mahatma Buddha atheist?

12. Mahatma Buddha did not believe in arguments or debates. He had a very practical approach. He thus refused to either deny or acknowledge presence of God or a supreme entity. He was content with teaching self-control and self-constraint and did not take trouble of attempting a solution of the great problems of Universe: How it began? Is it everlasting? Have I existed in past? Will I exist forever? etc.

Later philosophers of Buddhism did attempt to solve these mysteries through their own analysis and that is how Buddhism developed so many branches and sects.

In Kula Mayukyaovad Majjhama Nikaya there is a reference where someone asked Gautam Buddha whether the world is everlasting. He replied, “Did I ever promise that I shall teach you whether the world is everlasting or not? If not, then do not press the inquiry.”

In Sabbasava Sutta, he suggests that such inquiries into self and universe are meaningless.

Thus Mahatma Buddha focused on practical aspects and neglected the theoretical or metaphysical aspects. This was perhaps because he wanted to ensure that ritualistic malpractices do not overshadow the core essence of his teachings.

However these are natural questions in any human being and thus later Buddhists had to make up for this deficiency in a variety of ways.

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But if we review the original philosophy of Mahatma Buddha, there is no evidence of he being atheist or anti-Vedic.

His attitude towards Vedas and Theism was that of indifference rather than rejection. In this indifference lied his Vedic foundation. Because he eventually adopted only from the Vedas to form his ideology and strived to be an honest practitioner of “Accept truth, reject the rest.” to best of his capability and intent.

 

Impact of Buddhism

13. Buddhism had a great impact during its times. It paved way for rejection of distortions and external symbols towards nurture of morality. Since Buddhism did not challenge any of the key philosophical foundations of existing way of life – rebirth, law of karma, emphasis on morality – it became popular not only in India and across Asia. But soon it declined especially in India.

14. As Mahatma Buddha himself said, “The body contains within itself the power to renew its strength but also the causes that lead to its destruction.”

In case of Buddhism, the cause lied in its incompleteness. While it adopted the moral precepts of Vedas, it ignored the metaphysical foundations. Thus while a whole generation of Buddhist philosophers did spring up later, they could not address the key metaphysical questions convincingly and cohesively – On Self, Universe and Unchangeable Laws. This may work for pragmatics but not for the truly philosophical minds.

A mind tired with illogical ways of life may find great reprieve in focusing purely on moral precepts and meditation. But for someone who hails for a culture having a vast legacy of philosophical richness in every mundane and not-so-mundane aspect of life, there are more questions needed to be explored to quench the intellectual thirst.

Acharya Shankar debated with Buddhists of his era and proved that whatever Buddhism (of that era) argues by denying existence of God can also be explained by Adwait (One singular entity everywhere). Thus for centuries the debate between atheists and Vedics continued giving rise to a vast number of philosophical texts in India.

15. Later Buddhism tried to deny more clearly the existence of God and even that of soul but could not give a satisfactory substitute. They believed in eternal immutable law and never ending chain of cause and effect. But in absence of an entity ensuring that the laws work smartly and for our benefit, it was a blind alley: A religion without a deity! A worshipper without an object of worship!

This forced Buddhists to evolve their own elaborate set of ceremonies, rituals, idols, chants and practices, but this only brought them in rift with the original concepts. Some historians state that idol-worship began with Buddhism. All this kept splitting it into so many branches that are startlingly different at times. The religion supposed to be based on logic, intellect and mind-control, developed loads of superstitions, blind beliefs, tantra practices, witchcraft and myths of miracles. Today the divine Dalai Lama superstition has become foundation of popular Buddhism.

16. The rift widened so much that the religion, which is said to have been based on foundation of Non-Violence or Ahimsa, and which is said to have rejected Vedas because Vedas were perceived to sanction animal-sacrifice, is one of the largest consumers of meat-products today! In many Buddhist places, they hang a board outside meat-shop that says: “Believe Us, This meat is not for you.” Now the monks are guilt-free in eating meat in these shops!!

When someone asked Dalai Lama while he was helping himself with a serving of meat, he said, ” I am Buddhist. I am not vegetarian!”

Ironically, what is taught today across world is that Mahatma Buddha got perturbed when he saw people carrying animals for sacrifice and hence rebelled! Very few people perhaps know that the cult that had its very origin in Animal Rights is the largest killer of animals today! All for taste!

And followers of Vedas – which were alleged to endorse animal killing – are today the greatest proponents of Animal Rights!

In fact, many sects of Buddhism believe that Mahatma Buddha died due to indigestion from consumption of pork offered as charity. (as per these sects whatever provided in charity must be consumed.)

Similarly, while Buddhism (which started with rejecting man-made caste system) is now divided into so many sects/ sub-sects with its own sectoral practices that are necessary to adopt to be one of them, it is followers of Vedas who reject all man-made divisions and appeal for oneness of entire humankind regardless of man-made rituals and beliefs.

The roles are completely reversed today.

Coming back to the roots – Vedas – seems to be the best way to emulate Gautam Buddha today!!

17. While Buddhism could create appeal among other regions and can impress Christians today (Christianity derives its philosophical foundation in Buddhism and hence it is the next logical bridge for Christians to an evolved and more matured view of life), but for India – that has been home to a whole chain of eminent thinkers, the vagueness of Buddhism could not hold its appeal for long.

Today, whatever Buddhism prevails in India is primarily a reaction to the birth-based caste system and related rituals which are wrongly attributed to Vedas.

18. The final blow to Buddhism came from Islamic invasion in medieval era. The Bamiyan Buddhas of Afghanistan are mute spectators of that gory period of history. Buddhism, by its very rejection of other aspects of life except moral precepts, became most vulnerable to Muslim attacks. This has been the greatest damaging gift of Buddhist ideology to present era. The escapist Buddhist view that preferred to be neutral to all that happens with us in world, coupled with a damaging caste-system among Hindus, made sure that barbaric uncivilized tribals could decimate us and establish their dominance. Hinduism could still survive due to its inherent emphasis on realism, but Buddhism perished. And this untimely perish had further adverse outcomes on future of India in the form of philosophical downtime.

19. Ask any weight-trainer and he would tell you that if you need to build big biceps, you need to focus on leg-squats as well. Lop-sided development does not work. It only causes injuries. Similarly mere focus on moral precepts do not work for society. One has to dwell into other aspects – society, politics, science, philosophy, metaphysics, etc – for things to work out. That is why Vedas emphasize and train on a vast variety of subjects.

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While Buddhism adopted the moral precepts from Vedas, it made a blunder by ignoring the fuller picture. And that changed the path of history forever.

In fact Buddhism was not supposed to be a distinct sect in first place. It was merely supposed to be a philosophy focusing on moral aspects of life. Mahatma Buddha did not gave any preachings on other aspects at all. The blunder was that his followers took his narrow specific focus as a complete recipe of life.

Often we get so enamored by personalities that we lose the big picture. We consider fullness in whatever attracts our attention for long. For example, we witnessed the cricket drama for a month and now there seems nothing more patriotic than winning a World Cup and recommending Bharat Ratna for a cricketer! Similarly, most cults sprang up because the followers failed to consider the deeds and views of their role models as a critical PART of a bigger picture and instead considered completeness in that SMALL PART.

Mahatma Buddha considered eradication of misery as the Mission. While this is true, he took it to a narrow extreme and hence created a philosophy that was too pessimistic for common man to be motivated enough for worthwhile actions. This coupled with absence of any discussions on the key questions that initiate spiritual thinking – who am I, will I die forever, will this world end etc – left no incentive for a layman to extend his efforts beyond sitting in an isolated place trying to control the mind. Why would then one make sacrifice for nation, fight the enemies and work for smiles on face of his fellow-beings when he does not know clearly why he is doing so?

Today, psychologists would tell you that running away from miseries cannot bring the same level of motivation for worthwhile actions than desire for greater happiness.

Avoidance of miseries because world is full of miseries implies that one would naturally escape from worldly duties because even these performance of these duties would cause indulgence and hence miseries.

After all, Buddhist philosophy asserted that our misery began the moment we were born. To deny even the Self (Anatma) to become indifferent to pain becomes goal of life. How can then indifference generate actions when there is even no vaguely clear end-goal to be reached and denial is the best recipe?

Mahatma Buddha talked of 4 right beliefs: Knowledge of misery, Knowledge of origin of misery, Knowledge of cessation of misery and knowledge of path leading to cessation of misery.

But when even ‘I’ does not exist, who will work for getting these right beliefs? And what would be obtained? This incompleteness led to rank pessimism. The philosophies that emerged to counter this blinded belief system of Mahatma Buddha also suffered from the same pessimism and inherent inertia against vigorous actions.

Buddhism was doing bicep curls but not squatting sufficiently. It took only one part of Vedic message but ignored the rest.

Thus nationalism and reformist zeal could not co-exist prominently with Buddhism (even though Mahatma Buddha himself was an extremely dynamic man). It left Buddhism defenseless against savage attacks and created ‘Parable of Boiled Frog‘. If you put a frog in hot water, it would jump out immediately. But if you put it in a beaker and gradually increase the temperature of water from cold to warm to hot to boiling, the frog does not jump out. It dies instead. This is because the nervous system of frog is unable to detect gradual changes in temperature.

Lack of focus on proactive action plus view of life being a misery in either case – action or no action plus belief in everything being futile because everything is temporary plus refusal to look into bigger picture and focussing only on a narrow set of precepts, turned Buddhism into a frog. It offered little resistance to invaders and virtually opened the doors for savages to India.

And whatever Buddhism survived is far from original thoughts of the founder – a countless number of sects/ subsects with extremely diverse view and having only image of Gautam Buddha in common.

 

It is true that there is suffering in world. But to say that it is unalloyed pure suffering, with no iota of pleasure is a dangerous generalization. Absolute unalloyed pessimism cannot goad man to action. The world is not an abode of misery. The Benevolent God could not have made such a nasty world where suffering reigns. Even the most miserable in the world has some sort of joy which keeps him up. Even stoics had to summon up exceptional resolve when they prepared themselves for suicide. No sane being wishes to die because behind all miseries there is a hope that the all-blissful God will not leave us in lurch. Whether one believes in God or not, in this hope for a better future lies the bliss and acceptance of Supreme power. To deny this is to deny reality. And a philosophy that denies realism cannot face the challenges of real world.

Kapila states in Sankhya 5.113 that at least during Sushupti (deep slumber), Samadhi (deep meditation) and Moksha (Salvation) soul gets an experience of Supreme bliss.

Swami Dayanand succinctly explained the flaw in lines of Vedas: “If you compare the pleasure and pain of the world, pleasures many times exceed the pain. And many pure souls earn the bliss of salvation by constant practice of virtuous actions.”

(If Agniveer were to pick the most inspiring quote from entire Vedic teachings it has ever come across, it would undoubtedly be this one.)

This makes the Vedic philosophy distinctly optimistic and invigorating. It assuages the rigor of present life and makes the future hopeful. It illumines our present as well as future.

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We wish if someone could have made this statement during times of Mahatma Buddha! History would have been different. But alas!

In absence of this, Buddhism turned to escapism (even though Mahatma Buddha himself was a man of action). When the savages attacked, we were occupied with our meditations to ignore the self and cause of misery through indifference. We neglected built up of strong armies, regular training, and R&D on defense. We were indifferent to need for reformist zeal to break the very roots of caste-system and gender discrimination, we refused to look into the Vedas to discover what the original teachings were. We were simply practicing indifference to real challenges around.

And today, while Buddhism does not prominently exist in India (except in Dharmashala where Dalai Lama is forced to have asylum after Chinese aggression), the philosophy and the myriad of other philosophies that emerged to amend or counter it, turns us into a fatalistic society. We have developed high inertia, resist the urge to face challenges, attempt to use philosophy as a tool to justify our escapism and have gradually moved towards becoming indifferent to whatever does not pinch us too strongly. Ahimsa has become just an alibi for laziness and cowardice.


Conclusion

No, we don’t mean that Buddhism is to be blamed for all this. Not at all. Buddhism was a natural reaction to the prevailing ironies in the society of those times. And an essential one. We believe that people have different needs and level of evolution and hence for many including Mahatma Buddha this was the most optimal view of life. For a society that was focusing too much on blind rituals and irrational social practices, Buddhism gave the right shock to spur up more rational and logical thinking. The roots of the problem lay much earlier and Buddhism was merely a logical and necessary outcome.

Teachings of Mahatma Buddha are based purely on moral aspects of Vedas. His teachings also showcase his respect for Vedas. His vocabulary and usages were derived from Vedic texts. Thus he was in summary a Vedic preacher to best of his abilities.

Thus there is NO WAY that Buddhism of Gautam Buddha can be termed as separate from Vedic Dharma. It is as much an offshoot attempting to reach the source – Vedic wisdom – as other sects.

However the defection of the narrow incomplete focus of Buddhism into a complete philosophy in its own right (which it never meant to be in first place) was detrimental to national interests.

Had Buddhism been a more informed and complete philosophy based on a more thorough and rigorous study of Vedas instead of its paradoxical apparent rejection based on extremely superficial grounds, history would have been different.

Had Buddhists spent efforts to reform the society the way Raja Ram Mohun Roy and Swami Dayanand attempted, instead of attempting to split into a separate sect (which it never was), history would have been different.

Similarly, if all other sects and cults would have not been based on bounded rationality of a few well-intentioned men and had instead attempted to grab the complete picture of the concepts in their original source, the Vedas, world would have been a much more sensible place today. Much more tolerant, broader in outlook and rational.

Whatever good that we see in any cult or sect is already existing in Vedas though elaborated through works and teachings of great legends from time to time. However because most of these founders were addressing their imminent short-term needs and the followers believed in exclusivity of their sect, the holistic view got missing.

The key lesson is that any incomplete or temporary solution for today would eventually become a problem tomorrow.

The only way is to adopt the complete solution.

Swami Dayanand suggested a way to approach this issue of so many sects and cults and religions touching one part of the elephant each. Let all the common points in all these sects be brought together that are acceptable to all. For example, non-violence, morality, nationalism, truthfulness, non-stealing etc. Then eliminate all assumptions, beliefs and practices unique to each sect that is not otherwise explainable. This becomes the Universal Dharma for all human beings and this is exactly what Vedas teach.

Agniveer respects all the great men of history who attempted to bring society closer to Vedic living. And aspires that we evolve to reach the original source that all these great legends were attempting to reach – The wisdom of Vedas. Instead of viewing completeness in our own silo, let us attempt to integrate all the silos together into One. Lets get back to the roots instead of holding on to each tiny branch as the source. No we don’t mean that all branches be cut-off and only root of the tree should remain. We only desire that each branch knows that we form a tree only when all the branches are together and supported by the root. A branch detached from rest of the branches and root would only be a dry piece of wood. So lets all be One Tree and strengthen the roots of the Tree that would then strengthen us all.

This is the only way to pay our homage to their legacy. Our failure to do so brought us the miseries we faced till today.

Our success would ensure Shantih (peace, bliss, happiness) everywhere.

ॐ द्यौ: शान्तिरन्तरिक्षँ शान्ति:

पृथिवी शान्तिराप: शान्तिरोषधय: शान्ति: ।

वनस्पतय: शान्तिर्विश्वे देवा: शान्तिर्ब्रह्म शान्ति:

सर्वँ शान्ति: शान्तिरेव शान्ति: सा मा शान्तिरेधि ॥

ॐ शान्ति: शान्ति: शान्ति: ॥

References: Works of Pt Gangaprasad Updhyaya, Pt Bhagvadutta, Justice Gangaprasad, Pt Dharmadeva Vidyamartanda and several other scholars

Note: The views expressed are supposed to be a  perspective to stir up thoughts, discussions and introspection. They may be viewed in context of the Agniveer’s stand and not otherwise.

 

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Indic
Indic
17 days 11 hours ago
You’ve put in a lot of effort to come to a certain conclusion but unfortunately, your timeline is incorrect. In starting it would be good to know that the Yoga Sutras, Manusmriti, Gita, the extant versions of the Mahabharata and Ramayana all came after the Pali canon and in fact… Read more »
Akanksha
Akanksha
1 year 10 months ago

You are right Agniveer. Buddhism ( I would add Jainism also) was natural reaction to prevailing ironies in the society in that time. In my opinion, both Jainism and Buddhism were born in Kali Yug and that’s why they lack in basic understanding of God.

biuro Rachunkowe PIR
1 year 11 months ago

It’s going to be end of mine day, but before ending I am reading
this great piece of writing to increase my knowledge.

Mantradrashta rishi
Mantradrashta rishi
2 years 11 months ago

LOL

Mantra Drishta Rishi
Mantra Drishta Rishi
2 years 11 months ago

??????

Basant Jhariya
Basant Jhariya
3 years 4 days ago
RamNarayan ji namaste, I think agniveer ji is not understanding the रुचं ब्राह्मं mantra . this mantra clearly proves that Gautam buddha was not having his senses under control. If Gautam buddha was not Jitendriya then all his Karmas were fruitless. Manu smriti and Satyarth Prakash call them Vipradusht विप्रदुष्ट… Read more »
RamNarayan
RamNarayan
3 years 4 days ago

Basant, “Vidya dadaati vinayam”. Please speak sweet. You could have used the word invite instead of challenge. You are loosing credibility though you have good knowledge of vedas/shastras. Please maintain dignity. You have a bright future. Please be a saadhak.

May god bless you.

Mantra Drishta Rishi
Mantra Drishta Rishi
3 years 6 days ago
Dayanand saraswati never advised reading Tripitak or other bogus texts. Gautam buddha was not mahatma. i have proof from vedas – रुचं ब्राह्मं जनयन्तो देवा अग्रे तदब्रुवन यस्त्वैवं ब्राह्मणों विद्यात तस्य देवा असन वशे। this mantra proves that gautam buddha was not having his senses under control. if he was… Read more »
Ankur
Ankur
3 years 6 days ago

Mantra proves that someone dead did not have sense in control. good
I need to go now.Thanks for the advice.

Mantra Drishta Rishi
Mantra Drishta Rishi
3 years 5 days ago
@Ankur i think you have not read Rigvedadibhashya bhumika. Hindi translation is given there. Mantra does not say that someone dead does not have sense control. Mantra says the following- जो ब्रह्म का ज्ञान है वही अत्यन्त आनन्द का करने वाला और उस विद्वान् की उसमे रूचि का बढ़ाने वाला… Read more »
Ankur
Ankur
2 years 11 months ago

@Mantra Drishta : how does it relate to Gautam Bhudda.?

Mantra Drishta Rishi
Mantra Drishta Rishi
3 years 7 days ago

i become brahman by eternal law. i do not believe in birth based caste system.

Ankur
Ankur
3 years 6 days ago
you have a very weak perceptive powers. you said Gautam buddha was not eligible to enter sanyas according to Manu Smriti. First – he was not Brahman-learned of vedas. i was responding to that, no one believes in birth based caste system here. i would suggest you get some meditation… Read more »
Mantra drishta rishi
Mantra drishta rishi
3 years 8 days ago
“Gautam bhudda never had a chance to go to a gurukul so the fault is his parent’s not his.” Gautam buddha was not eligible to enter sanyas according to Manu Smriti. First – he was not Brahman-learned of vedas. Second- he did not believed on God. third- Manu smriti clearly… Read more »
Ankur
Ankur
3 years 7 days ago

and how do you become brahman? as per you?
its only post gurukula that one may become a brahman. Birth based cased system is puranic period invention.

Mantra Drishta Rishi
Mantra Drishta Rishi
3 years 9 days ago

Gautam Buddha was an illegal Sanyasi . he was shudra. Manu smriti says that those sanyasi who leave vedas are shudra. Dayanand said that those who do not study vedas are equal to goat’s breasts. See Satyarth Prakash.

dogra
dogra
3 years 6 days ago

ERM Manu smrtri is not holy text, so why do u quite this can you respond articles by agniveer on this website. Your knowledge on Hinduism is severly lacking

Ankur
Ankur
3 years 9 days ago

@Mantra Drishta : you proxy invokes kind of a mixed feeling.Gautam bhudda never had a chance to go to a gurukul so the fault is his parent’s not his.

Ex Ritambhara prajyawaan
Ex Ritambhara prajyawaan
3 years 22 days ago
please don’t feel offended agniveer ji but Manu Smriti says that there are only three types of persons who are allowed to be praised- विद्यास्नातक , व्रत स्नातक and विद्याव्रतस्नातक . Gautam buddha was none of these. Mohammad also should not be praised. Both – gautam buddha and Mohammad were… Read more »
Harshavardhan Deole
Harshavardhan Deole
3 years 22 days ago
This article is another attempt to swallow other faith’s such as Buddha Dhamma. As a Buddhist its my request to stop propagating such false theories. Dear Agniveer and other readers, Please look after this sayings of Buddha. Lord Buddha denied that the Vedas were sacred. He denied that whatever the… Read more »
dogra
dogra
3 years 14 days ago
U are entitled to your opinion, but we have right to defend our faith. If you feel Vedas are not for you then no problem. Here is essence of vedas, please feel free to disagree with the below: The last Sukta of Rigveda (10.191) summarizes the whole essence of what… Read more »
Patient of Negative symptoms of Schizophrenia
Patient of Negative symptoms of Schizophrenia
3 years 23 days ago

I emulated gautam buddha’s Apar and Par vairagya. that caused dopaminergic chemical imbalance in my brain. So i request agniveer ji to stop praising gautam buddha.

Mantra Drishta Rishi
Mantra Drishta Rishi
3 years 1 month ago
रुचं ब्राह्मं जनयन्तो देवा अग्रे तदब्रुवन यस्त्वैवं ब्राह्मणों विद्यात तस्य देवा असन वशे । इस मंत्र से सिद्ध होता है की गौतम बुद्ध वैराग्यवान नहीं था। उसकी मन आदि इन्द्रिय संयम में नहीं थी। महर्षि दयानन्द जी ने कभी भी गौतम बुद्ध के साथ महात्मा शब्द का प्रयोग नहीं किया… Read more »
Vimal Rathinasamy
Vimal Rathinasamy
3 years 9 months ago
Hi Agniveer, This article is nice. Note down that in the lines “Swami Dayanand succinctly explained the flaw in lines of Vedas:”, it would be better if you add a comma between the word flaw and in lines of Vedas. Because it reads like there is a flaw in lines… Read more »
Gurudatt
Gurudatt
3 years 11 months ago

पुष्यमित्र ने जो वैदिक धर्म की पताका फहराई उसी के आधार को सम्राट विक्र्मद्वित्य व आगे चलकर गुप्त साम्रराज्य ने इस धर्म के ज्ञान को पूरे विश्व में फैलाया।

vivekji
samraat vikramaditya gupt raja hee the.
chandragupt -II (not chanragupt maurya)
is Mahraj vikramaditya. jinhone vikram samvat chalaya tha.

dr vivek arya
3 years 11 months ago
सनातन धर्मरक्षक महान सम्राट – पुष्यमित्र शुंग मोर्य वंश के महान सम्राट चन्द्रगुप्त के पोत्र महान अशोक (?) ने कलिंग युद्ध के पश्चात् बौद्ध धर्म अपना लिया। अशोक अगर राजपाठ छोड़कर बौद्ध भिक्षु बनकर धर्म प्रचार में लगता तब वह वास्तव में महान होता । परन्तु अशोक ने एक बौध… Read more »
dr vivek arya
4 years 1 month ago
बौद्ध धर्म से फैली नास्तिकता का भयंकर परिणाम — वाम मार्ग , जन्त्र-तन्त्र व् पाखण्ड का प्रचार नास्तिकता जब बौद्ध सिद्धान्त के नाम से फ़ैल गई तो उसका जो परिणाम हुआ उसे हम अपने शब्दों में न लिखकर श्री राहुल सांकृन्तायन के शब्दों में रखना उचित समझते हैं | अपनी… Read more »
Karna
Karna
4 years 3 months ago

Another brilliant article indeed!!

vikas khantwal
vikas khantwal
4 years 3 months ago
Hi, I am thrilled to read such high quality discussion, but my request to all, please dont demean anyother religion for instance on this topic there was no need to include Islam and what is their perspective, It is not required to stoop so low as to as demean somebody… Read more »
Vinay Arya
Vinay Arya
4 years 8 months ago

Dear Maya Sasane
You are having wrong informations about everything.Vedas were originated in the hearts of four Rishis around 1 arab 96 crore 8 lakh 53 thousand and 110 years.

MAYA SASANE
4 years 8 months ago
QURAAN SAYS THERE WERE 1LAKH 24 THOUSAND PROPHETS,THOSE WHO WERE THEGOOD HUMAN BEINGS,WELLWISHERS OF HUMAN KIND..WERE SENT TO THE EARH…IN RESPECIVE SITUATIONS THEYGAVETHERE MSG.VEDAS ARE 4000YRS OLD,BUDDHA CAME 2500YEARS BACK, CHRIST YESHU BORN BEFORE 2011YEARS…BUT,MOHAMMAD PAIGAMBAR FOUND “ISLAM”IN 7TH CENTURY..AS PEOPLE CLAIM VEDAS, BIBLE ARE DIVIN SCRIPTURES, CAME B4 MOHAMMAD.… Read more »
GOD IS GREAT
GOD IS GREAT
4 years 8 months ago
My sympathies with those Muslims. If a Muslim behaves peacefully and want universal brotherhood without any biases – then he is a true Momin. But problem is: These are rarely available. If Muslims want peace to prevail from core of their heart – NOT THRU VIOLENCE, nothing better than that.… Read more »
GOD IS GREAT
GOD IS GREAT
4 years 8 months ago
There were many well wishers of mankind after Mohammed – calling Mohammed as last messenger is their insult. Conclusion: Someone must correct the Quran for the benefit of mankind and society. Those Muslims which you are talking would be happy & so would be Non Muslims. That is the path… Read more »
Basant
Basant
4 years 8 months ago

If you praise gautama buddha then people will become atheist.

Basant
Basant
4 years 8 months ago
Hello agniveer ji, please don’t call gautam buddha a mahatma . He did not believe on ishwar. His senses weren’t on control. It would be against Arya samaj rules to praise anyone who was an atheist. You wrote that there is no evidence buddha being an atheist. But there is… Read more »
Satya jigyasu
Satya jigyasu
4 years 9 months ago

I’m waiting for the reply .

Vinay Arya
Vinay Arya
4 years 9 months ago

mAHARSHI mANU sTATES:THE ONE WHO IS AN ATHEIST SHOULD BE SENT OUT OF THE COUNTRY.SO I THINK i SHOULD SAY FOOL mANU AND GREAT BRAHMA RISHI MAHARSHI VAJRA JI.

Vinay Arya
Vinay Arya
4 years 9 months ago

sO IT MEANS THAT sRI rAM sRI kRISHNA ETC. WERE NOT ACTUALLY THEISTS BUT SOMEWHAT ATHEISTS.

Satya jigyasu
Satya jigyasu
4 years 9 months ago

The Vedic law is-
Jo ishwar ko nahi janta/manta uski indriya vash mein nahi ho sakti. Isliye gautam buddh yogi nahi tha. Usmein vairagya nahi tha. Agniveer team pl answer.

Vajra
4 years 9 months ago
Namaste Satya Jigyasu Let it be the copyright of fanatics of issuing Fatwas on others’ beliefs and status. We should avoid doing this. Knowing/believing Eeshvar is not at all stating that I know/believe in Eeshvar. A person believes in Eeshvar to the extent that he/she behaves morally to self and… Read more »
satya jigyasu
satya jigyasu
3 years 1 month ago

But what schizophrenia ? a person believes in Brahm to such an extent that psychiatrist call him schizophrenic ?

Satya jigyasu
Satya jigyasu
4 years 9 months ago

Hi agniveer , i have a question for u,
Gautam buddh ishwar ko nahi manta tha. Usne ved bhi nahi padhe the. To vah yogi kaise ho sakta hai ? Usmen vairagya kaise ho sakta hai ?

KalBhairav
KalBhairav
4 years 9 months ago
@Satya: Gautam buddh ishwar ko nahi manta tha. I doubt if this is true. Buddha instructed his followers not to speculate on metaphysical issues such as eternity of universe, existence of souls, etc. for it was bound to lead to madness/vexation. Usne ved bhi nahi padhe the. In my view,… Read more »
Vis8
Vis8
5 years 17 days ago
The Buddha told how to control distracting and unwholesome thoughts in the discourse, Vitakkasanthana Sutta: Essentially, we need to try, a step at a time, the following when confronting an unwholesome thought within: 1.Think of a good thing. In this case, the easiest is to think that not doing this… Read more »
AUM
AUM
5 years 24 days ago
Muhammad Ishwar do not neet to create soul and matter because along with Ishwar (suprem soul) all the souls and matter are eternal. Soul does not die, it only chnages the body and that we call death. So if something does not die (always present) then question of creating it… Read more »
Timmanna
Timmanna
5 years 3 months ago

Hinduism is a religion which worships cow and cats . Why do you worship cow ? People in china eat snake and you stupid hindus worship snakes. lol Hinduism .

You Hindus are famous for caste system also .

Vajra
5 years 3 months ago

@Timmanna aka Ramu

You need to read comment policy before commenting. Go to caste system article to discuss on it.

sanatan
5 years 4 months ago
bhai aur bahne hum sabhi ek hai alag alag nahi… khud ko pehchane ao. kisi ki superority or inferiority ko proof karne ke liye tarka ka zarrorat nahi, jo satya hai sahi hai woh apne ap bahar aayega. dhrmaguru eek ek samay par aaye jab hum ne galat marg pe… Read more »
sanatan
5 years 4 months ago
रामकृष्ण जी कहते है की “यत मत तत पथ ” माने सभी सत्य है , सभी धर्मं सत्य हैं तरीका अलग अलग है लेकिन लक्ष्य एक है. द्विधा सुरु होती है बातो की गलत मतलब निकल ने से . सभी धर्मगुरु ऋषि तुल्य हैं. आओ सभी मिल जुल के रहे… Read more »
krishna arya
5 years 22 days ago

this is very nice…. but thing is you can say these lines only to hindus….

how can you explain these to the islamists:: who say must become a muslim else you get eternal hell !!

bs
5 years 4 months ago
This is very cleverly manipulated Article By an Intelligent Pro Hindu. What is most tragic thing is most commentators are discussing about Islam and Hinduism instead of point out this clever manipulation of facts! On my blog you can find how such misconceptions about Buddhism. I will focus more on… Read more »
SDC
SDC
5 years 4 months ago

So, anything that is unpalatable to you is any one of these: cleverly manipulated, part of a greater conspiracy, propaganda material, etc. You have anything substantial to share, you can use this portal, and we might come up with some answers.

KalBhairav
KalBhairav
5 years 4 months ago
@bs: I havent researched your site extensively. Some of the more popular posts seemed to include interviews with Wendy Doniger (whom patrons of this site do not look upon favourably) and other material that is so far out of the left field that they would make Stalin and Lenin proud.… Read more »
Mtariq
Mtariq
5 years 5 months ago

All my firends I am not here for counter question

I Just want to know why GOD cannot create matter and soul.I am stuck here,I will follow Vedic Dharma if I get this answer.

I am not criticizing anything just want some logical reasoning behind this which can convince people

Vajra
5 years 5 months ago

Namaste Brother Mtariq

Please see http://agniveer.com/4020/buddhism-and-vedas/#comment-30136 where a similar query is answered.

Thanks

Peacelover
Peacelover
5 years 5 months ago

Hi Mtariq,

I guess from the aspect of science, energy cannot be created but only be manipulated. And since quran accepts the big bang theory it also support this.
Cheers

Muhammad
Muhammad
5 years 5 months ago

One convincing answer why GOD cannot create matter and souls.

PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE>>>>>>>.

dharmayoddha
dharmayoddha
5 years 5 months ago

one convincing answer

We kaffirs cant create man and sould but can very definetely snuff out the life of a beliening momin, same like you cn d, so our god is as powerful as your god

Vajra
5 years 5 months ago

Muhammad

Please see above.

Muhammad
Muhammad
5 years 5 months ago
My only question to all Kafirs Why GOD of vedas cannot create soul and matter.I will agree that Vedas are supreme to Quran if anyone can give convincing answer.Even Agniveer Ji if he can give me one convincing answer and I promise I will not debate and accept what you… Read more »
Vajra
5 years 5 months ago
Namaste Muhammad I will make you understand this through posing counter questions 1. Why Allah of Quran cant kill himself? In case He can, let me know 🙂 2. Can Allah make such stone which is too heavy to be lifted by Himself? 3. Can Allah change the writings of… Read more »
Dipankar
Dipankar
5 years 5 months ago

Allah was a man made concept, not find pre arabiya,old testament,new testament.any same civilizationes did not say about allah. Allahs history does not exists. Only muhammads quran exist allah.

truthseeker
truthseeker
5 years 5 months ago
@ Hilali: Indeed your Lord is Allâh, Who created the heavens and the earth in Six Days , and then He Istawâ (rose over) the Throne (really in a manner that suits His Majesty). He brings the night as a cover over the day, seeking it rapidly, and (He created)… Read more »
Light of Truth
5 years 5 months ago

@ All friends

Here is an invitation cum challenge to our Muslim friends

http://satyagni.com/4091/i-am-a-non-arab-muslim/

Krishnarao
Krishnarao
1 year 10 months ago

I would also ask everyone to read this by Satyagni: http://vajragni.wordpress.com/

Tariq
Tariq
5 years 5 months ago
Truth Seeker We do not have false belief Hilali: Indeed your Lord is Allâh, Who created the heavens and the earth in Six Days , and then He Istawâ (rose over) the Throne (really in a manner that suits His Majesty). He brings the night as a cover over the… Read more »
Vortex
Vortex
1 year 10 months ago

What you are saying is not islam any more . You dont need it.

truthseeker
truthseeker
5 years 5 months ago
@Mtariq Why have youe blind belief in Kuran, I do not know. But we are not blind we looks the things with logic. I have given a verse 7:54 of Kuran, but you have not replied me. I once again repeat please solve my query if you are not blind… Read more »
Mtariq
Mtariq
5 years 5 months ago

It is sim[ple the way GOD was not able to give Vedas and its understanding to all Human so Allah chose Prophet Muhammad(PBUH).It is same concept.

adolf
adolf
5 years 5 months ago

@Mtariq,

>>It is sim[ple the way GOD was not able to give Vedas and its understanding to all Human so Allah chose Prophet Muhammad(PBUH).It is same concept.

The same way god sent another prophet Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. And will keep on sending some one.

ShivajiMaharaj
ShivajiMaharaj
5 years 5 months ago
Discussion on idol worship is futile with those that believe in symbolism but find it to be an issue when a non-muslim indulges in symbolisms. If Hindus did indeed believe that an idol is God, our dharma would have seized to exist the moment the Somnath temple was sacked the… Read more »
Dipankar
Dipankar
5 years 5 months ago
A simple common sense why allah sent a message? It was a supreem power and supreem authority he also contact directly to man and talking man to man.why he need a prophet and a book.This allah is not daring to face a common man because he afraid and it was… Read more »
Dipankar
Dipankar
5 years 5 months ago
Allah is a man made supreem concept.muhammad can dream to supreem imagine and creates ALLAH. The simple common things all humans can desire high power,high knowledge and high leave.The muhammad dreams a ALLAH, Anybody can dreams its own supreem almighty.All mans are different gods.But problems was create myself god is… Read more »
108Eternal
108Eternal
5 years 5 months ago
Namaste brothers and sisters. http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2058044_2060338_2060246,00.html Please vote ‘no’ to this man who has killed, abducted and tortured so many innocent Hindu and/or Tamil civilians and continues to do so. Your help is needed to make sure scum like him is not honoured for his crimes. Vote no brothers and sisters.… Read more »
Tariq
Tariq
5 years 5 months ago

Why GOD of Vedas cannot create soul and matter when GOD of Quran can???

ShivajiMaharaj
ShivajiMaharaj
5 years 5 months ago

Mr.Tariq your friends wrote more than what u said about hinduism vedas etc in what is hinduism article. apoloreach has written point aftter point response. u shld close down truthofhinduism site 🙂

truthseeker
truthseeker
5 years 5 months ago

@tariq

If God created the soul that means soul have to die one day. Then what is the purpose of soul creation by allah?

Mtariq
Mtariq
5 years 5 months ago
If God has created souls and matter then question comes, why? When He was alone, for whom He created all this? It is his function to create/destroy and recreate whatever he wants so he is most powerfull.If he cannot destory or create matter and soul then he will not be… Read more »
truthseeker
truthseeker
5 years 5 months ago
@tariq “See Allah has a function the way stmach has function of digestion and always try to digest same way allah function is of creating.sustaiing and destroying soul and matter based on karma .It is his funtion to govern souls based on their karma.So he is most powerfull. Comments There… Read more »
Vik
Vik
5 years 5 months ago
@Tariq ok Tariq, answer one simple question for me, if Allah created matter, then prior to creating matter, what was surrounding him? Had Allah been omnipresent and pervading throughout the unlimited universe you would have been safe, but it is not the case with Allah since Allah has a fixed… Read more »
truthseeker
truthseeker
5 years 5 months ago
@vik You are right allah was not omnipresent it proves from verse of Kuran as follows: Inna rabbakumu Allahu allathee khalaqa alssamawati waal-arda feesittati ayyamin thumma istawa AAala alAAarshi yughshee allayla alnnahara yatlubuhu hatheethan waalshshamsa waalqamara waalnnujooma musakhkharatin bi-amrihi ala lahu alkhalqu waal-amru tabaraka Allahu rabbu alAAalameena◥ Translation(s): Hilali: Indeed… Read more »
Tariq
Tariq
5 years 5 months ago
Brother ok Tariq, answer one simple question for me, if Allah created matter, then prior to creating matter, what was surrounding him? Had Allah been omnipresent and pervading throughout the unlimited universe you would have been safe, but it is not the case with Allah since Allah has a fixed… Read more »
Vik
Vik
5 years 5 months ago
@Tariq Namaste brother, brother, where are you coming from and which Zakir Naik do you know which agrees that Allah is omnipresent?? Brother Naik claims that Allah is NOT omnipresent, and here you are saying that Allah is omnipresent, why are you lying for? Your lie is caught here, if… Read more »
Mtariq
Mtariq
5 years 5 months ago
Dear Brother Here we do not agree with Zakir Naik.He is right around 90% See Allah was everywhere and matter can be there or cannot be there.He can create matter if he require out of his prana which was inside him. We have different school of thought in ISLAM where… Read more »
truthseeker
truthseeker
5 years 5 months ago
Tariq If God has created souls and matter then question comes, why? When He was alone, for whom He created all this? Because that is his duty, he has to perform some function the way everything has to. Comments: Tarique you are not clear here suppose If one say that… Read more »
truthseeker
truthseeker
5 years 5 months ago

@Vik

Great question, Everything now settled. I am sure Tariq have no word to answer you.

Vik
Vik
5 years 5 months ago

@truthseeker

Namaste,

thanks, I really appreciate it.

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