What is Vedic religion?

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Agniveer has very vocally asserted that its Mission is to make Vedic religion the religion of entire humanity. Yes, we are on a conversion spree. We want every human being on earth to proclaim allegiance to Vedic religion. We believe that salvation of the world would come only when everyone embraces the Vedic religion. We also proclaim that no other religion except Vedic religion is accepted by the Supreme. So the only way to have bliss now and hereafter is by surrendering to the Vedic religion.

Sounds so much like a proselytizer, right! Almost similar to what dogmatic Christian and Islamic missionaries speak and write. If you replace Vedic Religion with Quran, Bible, Islam or Christianity – this is exactly what Zakir Naiks and Popes of the world have been saying for centuries. So isn’t Agniveer yet another fanatic cult that believes its own religion to be best and trashes other belief systems? Just as a fanatic Christian would use hook or crook to promote Bible, and a fanatic Muslim would recommend even the sword to promote Quran, Agniveer is trying to promote Vedas – yet another claimant of divinity – to strengthen his own cult.

Of course, Agniveer can argue that why only Christian and Muslim fanatics should have exclusive rights to proclaim their texts as best. If they can go to any extent to promote Bible or Quran, why create a fuss when Agniveer tries to promote Vedas in same vein. And if Agniveer is dogmatic in declaring that Vedic religion is the ONLY religion for humanity, then all other cults in the world should also share the same blame.

This is a very strong argument. And in fact this argument has been the pretext on which so many cults and sub-cults exist in world today in all major religions and a new one keeps coming every other day.

The purpose of this article, however, is not to harp on this argument and defend Agniveer stance. Instead, the article would explain what exactly is Vedic religion and why Agniveer is not the first in a long generation of great souls that Mother Earth has produced who lived and died for Vedic religion. The article would explain why swearing by the name of Vedas is not the same as swearing by a Quran or Bible or any other ‘divine’ text for that matter.

And we challenge that after reading this article, you would also be compelled from within to adopt this Vedic religion if you have not done so far. In fact, almost everyone of us is already an adherent of Vedic religion, whether we admit in these many clear words or not. So all that this article would do is to urge you to come proactively in harmony with your true self rather than deny the undeniable. 

 

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What is religion?

To start, let us first define what we mean by religion. The common perception of religion is that of a cult or belief-system followed by a reasonably large population that has a specific set of beliefs in matters of life, death, afterlife, god and associated topics. If this be definition of ‘religion’, then ‘Vedic religion’ is anything BUT religion.

However, if we dwell into the etymology of ‘religion’, it is made of two words: ‘re’ meaning ‘again’ and ‘legion’ meaning ‘joining or connecting’. So the process of joining or connecting again to original source is ‘religion’. The word thus has a meaning very close to ‘Yoga’! We shall show that if this be the meaning of religion, why Vedic religion, for sure, is a true religion. I leave it to protagonists of other claimants of status of ‘religion’ to explain their point of view. I shall not comment on that. This article shall restrict only to understanding the Vedic religion and in the very process – convert you into a proactive proponent of Vedic Dharma.

(Note: Linguists may argue that ‘religion’ may have alternative etymologies and interpretations. But that does not concern us. Our allegiance is not to the word but the essence. If you feel like, you can use a different word to represent the same idea. We use the word ‘religion’ because it is most popular and hence easy to understand. To those who understand Indian culture, Dharma would be best word to represent this idea. Dharma means natural property. We shall discuss Dharma sometime later.)


What do you mean by Vedic religion?

Lets start with some

popular wrong answers.

Answer 1: Vedic religion means Hinduism

Answer 2: Vedic religion means considering 4 Vedas as divine just as Muslims consider Quran as divine and Christians consider Bible as divine

Answer 3: Vedic religion means following the 4 Vedas just as Muslims attempt to follow each letter of Quran and Christians follow each letter of Bible

Answer 4: Vedic religion means following Arya Samaj

Answer 5: Vedic religion means doing Sandhya, Havan (fire worship)


And here is the correct answer:

‘To accept truth through a continuous process of rejecting falsehood every moment to best of one’s abilities in the most sincere manner is Vedic religion’

This is beautifully described in Yajurveda 1.5:

“O Supreme Force governing the world! You function as per unchangeable laws which remain the same throughout without slightest of deviations. May I also seek inspiration from You to be unflinchingly principled in my life. Thus I resolve to seek truth constantly by eliminating the false from my life every moment to the best of my abilities, intentions and efforts. May I be successful in this noble decision of mine.”

This sums up the entire Vedic religion. This is the starting point. Everything else is secondary or a corollary. If this core spirit exists, one is a follower of Vedic religion. And if this does not exist, and yet everything else exists, it is still not Vedic religion.

Note that this spirit of falsehood rejection is a core trait for all human beings. We cannot survive without this ability. This inspires us to learn walking, talking, seeking education, making new discoveries and seeking growth and progress in life. Whether we consciously know it or not, whether we openly accept it or not, we all are actually surviving because we follow this Vedic religion or Vedic Dharma. Dharma means a natural property. Unlike a cult, Dharma is not and cannot be imposed. It is something natural and innate. Thus seeking truth is a natural trait of us all and the very fact that we live implies that we all follow the Vedic Dharma.

So what we mean by embracing Vedic Dharma or Vedic religion is to simply stop denying what you are already doing. To simply stop shouting that you are deep asleep when the very fact that you shout implies that you are not asleep. And to instead welcome the energizing morning sun-rays with energy, vigor and enthusiasm that is already there within you!

What is truth and falsehood?

Before we delve into this topic further, let us briefly explain what we mean by truth or falsehood. This is necessary because all cults claim to have exclusive copyrights of ‘truth’. Some are so possessive about it that they would recommend even death for those who intend to reject the ‘truth’ once they are part of the cult. Sounds like a psychopath ghost I saw in one horror movie who would give her victim the choice to either get murdered or be possessed by her!

Vedic truth is more ‘honest’. The word ‘Ved’ itself is derived from a root that means ‘knowledge’. So Vedic truth does not mean that you should believe in whatever I say simply because I claim to hold license of truth. You should not believe in something simply because a book or a prophet or an avatar or a crowd-puller or a celebrity or a TV Channel claims so.

Vedic truth simply means that you should accept anything the way it is actually and then act accordingly.

Vedic truth means that you should accept something only when it is logical, systematic, not self-contradictory and above all in line with your own inner voice. Without carrying these tests of truth, if you accept anything that would be falsehood.

So for example, if I claim that I am a Prophet and only by believing what I blindly write on Agniveer.com can one get rid of miseries and achieve Heaven, you have to scrutinize my claim in various ways. For example:

a. What if someone else also claims something similar? How am I the supposed to decide who is right and who is wrong?

b. Is whatever contained in Agniveer.com perfectly infallible? Is it unaffected by time and geography?

c. What about those who died before Agniveer.com was created? Why they had to miss the bus?

d. Does Agniveer.com contain anything that is wrong?

e. If following Agniveer.com alone is gateway to Heaven, then why was I given a separate brain that could think and analyze?

etc etc.

So you may conclude that while Agniveer.com does contain a lot of valuable and useful information, it is too premature for you to accept that Agniveer is a Prophet. So as a smart follower of Vedic religion, you would accept whatever is good in Agniveer.com and discount all other claims. And if you are smarter, you may altogether reject Agniveer.com and seek knowledge from other sources if you can logically conclude that the other sources are better for you.

But Vedic truth also does not mean that you should be over-skeptic of everything and accept anything ONLY when you can directly verify it. If one starts believing only in things that are directly identified by sense organs, then one cannot even survive for long. One has to use the faculties of logic, extrapolation, interpretations, counter-analysis and judgment that make us humans!

So for example, if you drive your car regularly, it would be grossly inefficient of you to spend 6 hours each time before you start the car to ensure that it does not breakdown. You would rather assess the track record, do regular maintenance and enjoy the ride. Or else, this over skepticism would be called paranoia.

Vedic religion would want us to be like smart managers of successful companies who are neither gullible nor paranoid. Someone who would proactively seek benefits from something that has given benefits or seems to give benefits as per best of one’s analyses, and yet be willing to reject it if the earlier judgment went wrong or get something better.

This is the truth of Vedic religion. To act on contrary would be falsehood.

To summarize, Vedic religion means being knowledge or wisdom driven.


Corollaries of Vedic religion

The above said criteria of Vedic religion was its fundamental axiom. Once this axiom is grasped, rest of the natural corollaries keep getting imbibed as we progress. This is like the fundamental axioms of Mathematics. Once they are in place, rest of the expertise in Arithmetic, Algebra, Trigonometry, Calculus get built up automatically.

Theoretically speaking, any person on earth can explore and imbibe all advancements in mathematics all by himself. But the process would be too tedious. So smart people send their children in schools so that they can quickly learn what would take perhaps 1000 births or even more. But unlike an expert in Filmy Quiz, one is not supposed to merely mug up all the mathematics formulas to be an expert in mathematics. Well, one may do so for efficiency, but that is definitely not a destination. A mathematician would be one who understands what led to (a+b)^2 = a^2 + b^2 + 2ab. Further you have full liberty to refute a complex mathematical derivation in a maths book if you feel there was a printing or any other error.

And the way to do so is to follow the Vedic religion – test each step of the derivation for its truth and proceed. Soon you would not only master basic arithmetic but even advanced calculus!

Everything else that is normally perceived popularly about Vedas or Vedic religion is an extension. You are not FORCED to believe in them. They are like the Theory of Relativity and Laws of Motion. You can make best use of them anytime but you are not required to blindly believe in them. You can even reject them or counter them if you honestly consider that to be truth to best of your abilities and intent. You would still be following Vedic Dharma.

There are different levels of these extensions. Some are extremely obvious and intuitive, some need some more analyses and introspection, some may be research level subjects where experts have differences. This is similar to a school curriculum from Class 1 to PhD. Some examples of these extensions are:

- Truth leads to happiness. Falsehood leads to miseries

- Any attempt to seek happiness through falsehood would eventually lead to miseries with added penalties

- One should proactively seek happiness for world. Happiness multiplies by sharing.

- Law of Karma is unchangeable and working every moment. Your thoughts shape your reality.

- Soul is immortal and keeps facing fruits of its actions as per Law of Karma.

- There is a Supreme Force governing the world through unchangeable laws.

- The 4 Vedas contain the codes to subtler truths.

- One should seek holistic development and not lopsided growth. So faculties are multidimensional. Its like a school with hundreds of subjects.

(For a more elaborate description of some of the most obvious extensions of Vedic religion that are virtually as fundamental as the core axiom, refer http://agniveer.com/1634/religion-vedas/. For a more detailed analysis of less subtle extensions, read all the articles in http://agniveer.com/category/methods/vedas/ and charge yourself!)

Note that these are all extensions or corollaries. There are no penalties for refusing to believe in any extension simply because you don’t find it convincing given your current state of knowledge, experiences, habits and perceptions. The only penalties come in play when you deliberately attempt to ignore truths that have become intuitive and obvious to you and when you deny the urge for further knowledge, better actions and enhanced contemplation.

Thus the ONLY time you DO NOT follow Vedic Dharma is when you deliberately know you are doing something wrong or false but still do so ignoring your conscience. A corrupt politician, a fraud marketeer, a rapist, a murderer are obvious examples. Each of us when we surrender to lust, greed, selfishness, frustration, anger in actions, words or even in minds is a more honest example though many of these deeds may be hidden from others.

Each day, we follow Vedic religion in varying degree in different aspects of our lives. We do not score a 100 all the time in all aspects. Most of us may be scoring much lesser. But that DOES NOT make us less Vedic. We are Vedic so far we resolve to rise up each time we fall. To fall down is not a sin. We fall down because all our cumulative actions, thoughts and habits of past made us deserve the fall.

But we have a choice this moment – to continue with our fall or resolve to stand up.

You may not be able to do push-ups today. But you have a choice. Either you refuse attempting a push-up and fore-go the chance to have a powerful body tomorrow as well. Or attempt that first knee-down push-up at least and transform into a powerman sooner than you can imagine! The later would make you follower of Vedic religion.

 

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  1. Vik says

    In other words,

    a Vedic follower = a good, moral, ethical, pious human being regardless whether he is a hindu, muslim, or christian as long as he/she engages in blissful moral activities.

    Brilliant article

    • krishnarao says

      Problem with your statement, the abrahamic faiths do not believe in just being moral, ethical and pious. They also say, if you dont’ follow our religion you are going to hell. This is a fact. You can’t make this shit up.

      • Abdu Rasul says

        @krishnarao
        Muslim are most scientific people of the world. Their approach is scientific because they are follower of prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and holy Quran.

        • raj.hyd says

          mnniy sri abdu ji quran v muahmmad ji dono achha hi nahi kah ja sakta hai agar muslim scientifec hote to nobale puraskar me unke naam jyada hote , vaungyanik muslim jyada hote jo nahi hai 1 quran to jehadi v islami atankvadi jarur banati hai dekhe quran 8/65-66 !

        • krishnarao says

          Really, Are you serious. Let’s for a second leave out the so called parts that a “scientific” in islam or the utter disgusting mythology in your books and just look at the world today.

          If your religion was soooooooooooo scientific, where the hell are all their recent scientific discoveries. You have almost no Nobel prizes in science in the muslim world. And even the one where a muslim did win, in Pakistan, most muslim don’t even consider him a muslim because he was a ahmadie (don’t know how to spell it). Vast majority of the tools and science being used in today’s world was or is being discovered by Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, Christian, Jewish, deist, agnostic, or atheists in this world. And they are discovered in institutions in countries where the majority are Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhist, Christian, Jewish, deist, agnostic, or atheists. These are facts. The is almost zero scientific discoveries coming out the muslim countries. THESE ARE FACTS HOMIE.

          Any religion can go an claim all this science has been in our religion. That could or could not be true. I have read your book and honestly the shit is so vague it can mean just about anything, so it is easy to just get a child’s science book in one hand and your religious book in the other and say hey this is in there. That is not science nor is is fact. Fact is showing reproducible proof anywhere in the world where it is measurable. And if it is a discovery it must be done for the first time. Which your book does none of.

          And even the way your boy, aka prophet, get his message is not scientific. Science asks people show others how reproduce what someone claims. IT MUST BE REPRODUCED BY OTHERS TO BE SCIENTIFIC. MOMO never showed anyone how to reproduce what he did. He never showed anyone how to receive the angel for themselves. He made a claim without showing a single person how to reproduce what he did. He is a fake homie.

        • Abdulah says

          The last prophet was prophet Ali, peace be upon him . Those who follow him (Shia Muslims) are the only scientific people in the world. Sunni Islam was expired. Prophet Mohamed, peace be upon him was not the last prophet. Thus, your Islam is not scientific, our Islam is the scientific one.

          • raj.hyd says

            kya kurani allah ne akhiri rasul banakar apne rasul banane ke gun samapt kar diye kya ishwar ke koi gun samapt ho sakte hai ? agar ishwar ke gun rsul banne ke hai to jab tak ishwar rahega tab tak uske rasul anane e gun bhi rahenge ! yah kalpit124000 nabi rasul ki kahani jhuthi kyo n man li jaye? kya kisi bhi islami granth me inke naam v kis jagah vah aye the uska sabut mil skta hai ? sari kaaynaat sirf din me kurani allah ne baanne ka dava kiya hai kya yah vaigyanik kaha ja sakta hai ? saath me yah bh kaha jata hai ki “kun” [ ho ja ] aur vah ho jati hai fir 6 din bhi kyo lage 6 sekend hi kafi the ?

        • Jay Aryan says

          So how come Muslim countries are most backward? How come everything from Telephone to Cell Phone…from Antibiotics to modern medicine, from computers to internet…all were invented by others and not by Muslims? How come America rules over Saudi Arabia and most of Muslim World?

  2. jagomohanpyare says

    I have full sympathy with “agniveer” and his “great” ideas.In these mental conditions people write article like this.May God bring mental stability and peace to agniveer and all his “mentally challenged” followers !!

    • KalBhairav says

      @Pyare bhai:

      Maybe Agniveer should write that it is only through the mediatorship of Krishna that one can attain Moksha….Worshippers of Shiva, Ganesha, etc. are committing Shirk and will be eternally hellbound. :-( The article may be to your liking then.

      It is unfortunate that you find fault with an embracing idea of religion/philosophy that gets expressed more often than not on Agniveer.

      Its between you and the Supreme Force (whatever label you may give it – God, Ishwar, Laws of Nature etc) and no one has right to pass judgment on whether you believe in this religion or not.

      You are exactly the type of judgemental person the line above is meant to expose.

    • truth seeker says

      @jagomohanpyare
      I am 100% sure you are mental, who raise figure towards other but could find fault of them. If you have found anything wrong in article let me also know.If you are not mentally disturbed put the wrong points of article here.

    • SDC says

      How about issuing a fatwa declaring that this should not be read by devout muslims and also seeking guidance if it is jayez or najayez for muslims to read such articles?

    • Consummascient says

      Jagmohan Pyare.Ji. Afeter readin your comments it seem tht you have already lost your power of perception and analysis. Ap to lagta hai bohot jaldi Bhagwan ko pyare hone wale hain. Kyunki mujhe aap mental case lag rahe hain. Ap ka nam hoga Jagmohan Pyare-Bhagwan ko pyare.

    • Charvak_pathik says

      Even I cannot imagine anyone debating Agniveer Mahaashay (I know now the Agniveer team is but the Arya Samaj in it’s e-avatar), but nevertheless, taqqiya masters like jagmohanpyare above are still hovering about to malign the true religion, the religion that accepts all other religions to be true.

  3. says

    Shri Agniveer Team,

    No doubt that you are doing a great job for the entire mankind. However, the website needs to be updated in folowing areas:

    A) Content Management
    B) Language Options for the same article
    C) Comment Restrictions / Privileges
    D) Layout flexibilities.
    E) Member Section with the option to customize the layout
    F) Resource Section with proper menus and frames for the content
    G) Ajax Infrastructure of the website
    H) Feedback Surveys by the genuine members.

    I wish I could have helped the organization for the noble cause. I have other commitments as of now. I assure you – if I would get time, I would definetely come-up with a new structure in near future.

    • Consummascient says

      @Satyendra:

      Brilliant comments and very innovative ideas. You must be a part of Agniveer.

      Regards.

  4. अखंड....! says

    The most basic question to start with has been answered now …!..this article will become the first starting point of people who are in search for truth.

    I hope your work continue to inspire people and let hindus become aware about their own relgion which they have forgotten in last 1000 years of muslim invasion and fundamentalist terrorism.

    Our idiotic reservation systems have also destroyed our own heritage and knowledge since now inefficient people rule us.IN such a scenario poeple who are on right path suffer the most.

    I hence somehow have a feeling that with Indian govermnet being dishonest and particularly known for its muslim appeasement and hindu bashing in its own country excells in quenching any movement of truth..like for example they have done with ramdev baba….your site is gaining visibility and popularity…..always remember ..time is not far ahead when these goons might block it or restrict its content….though mr zakir hussain’s peace mission would contnue to function and remain and continue to produce more intolerant muslim folllowers…..that is the tragedy of hindus with in india….my all blessing to you ,.. ….बड़ा कठिन मार्ग चुना है , पर जितना भी कठिन हो .है सत्य का मार्ग….आपके साथ सदा…….ॐ….

  5. sum1 says

    This article is really an eye-opener for those self-proclaimed vedic people who define a set of constraints for others to become vedic.
    I can say for sure that a vedic person will become more vedic after reading this article.

    Thanks a lot to Agniveer team for its great work

  6. says

    Such a long article. I am saving this, would read in detail and come back to say what I feel. Have read first part; it’s enlightening! Keep up the good work! Best regards,

  7. Indian Agnostic says

    Brilliant article!

    hope the nectar shared here leads people from religious dogma to rational spirituality and humanism

    • truth seeker says

      @Agniveer
      I also support piyush. At least all article on Vedic God & Veda must be in hindi also. I have distributed your many article among the people but I also think all article specially on Vedic God & self transformation must be available in Hindi also to understand the God, Truth, Veda & eradication of misconception in society.

  8. Ram says

    Is there a better definition for a religion than this ?
    To accept truth through a continuous process of rejecting falsehood every moment to best of one’s abilities in the most sincere manner is Vedic religion’
    Agniveer, I am sure you will not claim that you are the last and final P……

  9. manavendra9953 says

    Hinduism believes in science and evolution (NOT on Adam and Eve)…I think this is the Only religion which corroborates Darwin’s theory…the 10 avatars of Vishnu gives a fine example of evolution…

    A religion can be pure and authentic only when it has inputs from pure minds and perfected souls resulting from high level communication with the Almighty…Hinduism is about contemplation of truth and through ages, Hindu sages have unrevealed the divine truth….for example in Hinduism we have 108 names of God. Why 108? Because the Hindu sages had profound understanding of astronomy and they calculated (around 4000 years ago) that Sun is 108 times its diameter away from earth and moon is also 108 times its diameter away from earth. Modern calculations show it is 107.8 and 108.4 respectively. Also they calculated that the age of Universe is in the order of Billions. Also the sages told us about the oscillating universe theory which is in excellent conjunction with the latest discoveries from Cambridge U and Princeton U. Hinduism is not about a series of orders but the philosophy and science of spirituality. Revisions doesn’t make the holy scriptures impure, rather it enriches it with knowledge which is true and sacred in its own. A religion can only be true if it can be validated with ages and Hinduism has shown it over and over.

  10. manavendra9953 says

    Top 10 Most Hindu Countries -
    Countries with the Highest Proportion of HindusCountry Percent Number
    Nepal 89% 19,000,000
    India 79 780,000,000
    Mauritius 52 600,000
    Guyana 40 300,000
    Fiji 38 300,000
    Suriname 30 116,000
    Bhutan 25 400,000
    Trinidad and Tobago 24 300,000
    Sri Lanka 15 2,800,000
    Bangladesh 11 12,000,000

  11. manavendra9953 says

    In the process, India’s history has become a history of foreign invaders – Aryans, Iranians, Greeks, Parthians, Scythians, Kushans, Arabs, Turks, Persians, Portuguese, Dutch, French, and British – rather than a history of the greatest civilization which the world has known, and later on of Hindu heroism which fought and ultimately frustrated all foreign invaders. India itself has become a sub-continent seething with a mass of heterogeneous humanity rather than an ancient and indivisible Hindu homeland. Indian people have become a conglomeration of nationalities, racial groups and religious communities which are finding it difficult to co-exist in peace, rather than a national society which is trying to reform itself and reclaim some of its unfortunate sections alienated from it by successive waves of Islamic, Christian and modern Western imperialism. And Indian culture has become a mechanical mixture of odds and ends, indigenous and imported, rather than a homogeneous whole created by a vast spiritual vision which is finding itself ill at ease with incompatible impositions.

    It was this version of India’s history which gave a good conscience to the British imperialist while he pulverised Hindu society, plundered Hindu wealth and poured undisguised contempt on Hindu culture. It was this version of India’s history which emasculated Hindu society and emboldened the residues of Islamic imperialism to stage street riots and then walk away with precious parts of the Hindu homeland, thus consolidating an aggression which had not succeeded even though mounted again and again for more than a thousand years. It is this version of India’s history which is being invoked by the fifth-columns of Islam, Christianity, and Communism, each of which looks forward to a final conquest of this country with the help of foreign finances and, if need be, foreign firearms. And it is this version of India’s history which is being promoted by power-hungry politicians who woo the Muslim vote-bank while they divide Hindu society into…

  12. SAVITA says

    Let us remember that India is not a small nation like Nepal or Afghanistan or Switzerland to plead that no amount of strength she builds up out of her own resources will ever have much of a meaning in the world balance of military power. Let us remember that India is the second biggest country in terms of manpower and one of the four or five foremost nations in terms of industrial and military potential. If India looks into herself, her innermost soul, and senses the sources of her own intrinsic strength, she can become a formidable power capable of preserving not only her own independence and integrity but also of contributing to the cause of world peace. But if she fails to awaken to her own innate potentialities and persists in harbouring the illusion that her own frontiers as well as world peace will be preserved automatically by the competing interests of the Big Powers, she will surely fail and betray the trust which her hoary history has laid on her shoulder.[Sita Ram Goel]

  13. raghuveer says

    Algebra, Trigonometry and Calculus are studies, which originated in India.* Ayurveda is the earliest school of medicine known to mankind. The Father of Medicine, Charaka, consolidated Ayurveda 2500 years ago.* India was one of the richest countries till the time of British rule in the early 17th Century. Christopher Columbus, attracted by India’s wealth, had come looking for a sea route to India when he discovered America by mistake.The Art of Navigation & Navigating was born in the river Sindh over 6000 years ago. The very word Navigation is derived from the Sanskrit word ‘NAVGATIH’. The word navy is also derived from the Sanskrit word ‘Nou’.Bhaskaracharya rightly calculated the time taken by the earth to orbit the Sun hundreds of years before the astronomer Smart. According to his calculation, the time taken by the Earth to orbit the Sun was 365.258756484 days.The value of “pi” was first calculated by the Indian Mathematician Budhayana, and he explained the concept of what is known as the Pythagorean Theorem. He discovered this in the 6th century, long before the European mathematicians.Quadratic Equations were used by Sridharacharya in the 11th century. The largest numbers the Greeks and the Romans used were 106 whereas Hindus used numbers as big as 10*53 (i.e. 10 to the power of 53) with specific names as early as 5000 B.C.during the Vedic period.Even today, the largest used number is Terra: 10*12(10 to the power of 12).Until 1896, India was the only source of diamonds in the world
    (Source: Gemological Institute of America).
    Sushruta is regarded as the Father of Surgery. Over2600 years ago Sushrata & his team conducted complicated surgeries like cataract, artificial limbs, cesareans, fractures, urinary stones, plastic surgery and brain surgeries.Usage of anaesthesia was well known in ancient Indian medicine. Detailed knowledge of anatomy, embryology, digestion, metabolism,physiology, etiology, genetics and immunity is also found in many ancient Indian texts.Varanasi, also known as Benaras, was called…

  14. khemchanra9188 says

    Julia Roberts said: “Ever since I developed my liking and fondness for Hinduism, I have been attracted and deeply fascinated by many facets of the multi-dimensional Hinduism… spirituality in it transcends many barriers of mere religion”. Talking of India, she promised “to return to this sacred land again and again for the best of creativity.”

  15. radhika says

    Brahmins are still suffering due to actions of the selfish and glory seeking leftist bramnins who came to power after Independence its high time that brahmins start getting vocal. Brahmins are by no means minority. There are enough of us spread all over India. This country’s culture and heritage was shaped by brahmins and non brahmins should be grateful for that.Maybe it was our ancestors single largest mistake that they were always King makers but not kings. India is nothing without Brahmins.

  16. radhika says

    Brahmin and Kshatriya communities lived for the common good and focused their energies and intellects to bring about common good. In return, the rest of the society took care of their needs by providing for them by giving what is surplus in the society. Kshatriyas served as to how modern Governments serve. Brahmins focused on Spiritual and religious aspects, and also served as advisors to Kshatriyas. The traditional functions of various people served the Indian society well. The problems started after Indian kingdoms fell to the invaders and the nobility, for most part, was usurped by the invading classes. Both Brahmins and Kshatriyas had to compromise. Several converted, inter-married, learned new languages, and trades and adapted to the new Order. The emerging competition perhaps forced Brahmins to insulate themselves and became more secretive. This secretiveness perhaps was at the root of many superstitions.
    About Women: If you lose women, as they are the source of the next generation, you lose your community. Brahmins have been over protective of their women for this reason and must have imposed a lot of restrictions through the ages. However, due to the new found freedom in a democratic polity, some women may be rebelling.

  17. atul singham says

    i am really proud today because of your great work!! agniveer ji paramatma aap ko aur shakti de!!

  18. O P Shukla says

    I request you to approach all Hindu Spritiual Leaders/Preachers/Kathavachaks and request them to end their programmmes by following slogans

    1. Hindu Dharm: Sanatan Dharm
    2. Hindu Virodhi:Rastra Virodhi
    Bhristachari;Atyachari

  19. शिवेंद्र मोहन सिंह says

    please provide this article in hindi also… this is my request.

  20. vijay says

    Who are guilty of cow slaughters and what is punishment for them according to Ved and manu smiriti. Please refer me with original mantra and meaning.

  21. Krantidoot says

    kaha jata hai ki 124000 nabi is duniya me aaye lekin unme se koi Hindustan me kyu nahi aaya ? Aakhir hindustan itna bada desh hai aur yaha ki itni jyada jansankhya hai. Hindustan me ek se ek mahan logo ne janm liya lekin unme se koi “nabi” nahi ban paaye . God ko nabi banne ke liye yogy vyakti sirf Arab aur Israel me hi milte the. Aur aab to koi ummid bhi nahi bachi hai kyunki God ne “nabi” ki vacancy nikalni hi band kar di hai. God ne India, China, East Asia, Russia, America, Europe aur Africi desho ke saath ye anyay kyu kiya ???

    • raj.hyd says

      yah 124000 ki sankhya kalpit hai farji hai ! kisi bhi islami sahiyty me iski lisht nahi mil sakti hai agar koi muslim inke naam v kis kshetr me yah nabi aye the. batla de to unko ham khuli chunauti dete hai !

  22. Krantidoot says

    My dear Muslim brothers and sisters of India,

    I invite you to join “Dharma” which is based on “humanity” and “righteousness”. Dharma is the religion that your ancestors were following for thousands of years. We are brothers and share same blood. Genetic researches also prove this.

    We belong to same country and same culture. We all are Indians. Foreign invaders in past had weakened us by dividing us in two warring religious groups. This way they pitted one brother against other and ruled us. Now its high time to join hands for the betterment of our society and country. Let us UNITE once again under the umbrella of “Dharma”

    Thanks. “dharma ki jay ho”.

  23. Krantidoot says

    Dear Hindu/ Muslim/Christian brothers and sisters of India,

    Let us start a movement “Punarjagran” to unite whole India. Through this movement we will invite all Indians in “Dharma” which is “righteousness”. We all should follow “Dharma”. In Dharma or Sanatan Dharma everyone is free to worship the Ishwar on his own way. Please give your views here.

    • dogra says

      Krantidoot, good idea.
      What are your next steps.
      Agniveer has started as well, how about a little Karma Yoga in your area, ie selfless ervice, inviting people from all different backgrounds, ie ine caste: Human, gender equality as well.

      Here in UK,, we carry out sewa day once a year, also trying for more given our time and stage in life.

      • Krantidoot says

        To start PUNARJAGRAN, first I will invite here the like minded Hindus/Muslims/Christians to give their views about uniting under “Dharma”. Foreign invaders like Bin Qasim, Mahmood Ghaznavi and Ghori forcefully converted many Indians and divided us. They also used their sufis for this purpose. It is the high time to awake people from their slumber.

        Dharma is based on “Righteousness” ,”humanity” and right actions or “karma” . Here we need not follow any particular saint or prophet. Dharma gives the freedom to seek the truth. It welcomes the good ideas. It is not made by any one person. Neither it is rigid.

        Selfless “manav seva” is karmyoga and we will certainly practice it and educate people to do “manav seva”. Agniveer is doing this.

        I request Agniveer ji to start a column with the heading “Punarjagran” so that people can give their views on this subject.

  24. Samrat Chakraborty says

    Hello , Agniveer.

    Very Good Article again. I wanted to give an advise to you, and you know Indians are
    very good at it, as its free. Lolz.

    Its very good that Agniveer is working Hard for the cause of Vedic religion and has done a great Job.

    Many people through agniveer have got intellectual ammunition to fight against people who are working harder to convert us.

    My advise is that Internet savvy Youth is getting the info. and getting enlightened, and thats good. Many are buying Vedas with authentic translation. However our Youth in small town & villages are suffering intellectually & they are not armed with the weapon of knowledge.

    I propose you to distribute your literature, or group of essays, or books in villages especially in the Hindi speaking belt and particularly UP. UP is centre of islamist politics and ideological centre as Deoband & Bereilly the two islamic schools of the subcontinent are centred here & Hindus there are very prone to verbal assaults on religion.

    Distributing free literature can help & it will make real impact at grass root level. We can contribute as per our capabilities however raising Fund with corporates, businessmen can make it a Big movement.

    In western UP, Muslims are trying hard to convert Jats & Gujjars as they will reduce the Hindu Foot soldiers, hence awareness is required there with urgency. Also Dalits, the favourites of conversion brigade need to be educated.

    Working at Rural Level will make Agniveer work count more.

    Best of Luck

  25. ANAND says

    hi,i really liked ur article very much.but there is a big doubt in my mind that have been hunting me.is there a provision for idol worship in vedic religion? (well,i have born in a hindu family but follow all religious texts like vedas,quran,bible etc… i have consulted many swamis and gurus and asked this very same question regarding idol worship,what to say they all have their own personal views!.i even referred many books but in vain.so can u people at agniveer answer this small(but very big) question?

    • Truth Follower says

      To follow truth is the only religion of humans and so every human should know ,
      a)Definition of truth which helps to know true entities.
      b)True phenomenon which helps to prove true entities.
      .
      I will only give ‘a’ here which is as follows.
      1)truth=cause=real——>unborn=eternal
      2)Illusion = effects ——>born=temporary
      3)false = unreal ——>no existence
      .
      God is unborn,infintesimally subtle and omnipresent and that’s why God is shapeless and hence if anyone shows something and say that he/she/it is God then its false….Why people need idols ? .Those who support say that they need for something to see and concentrate ..But concentration can be done on anything available in nature including your body with your 5 senses and those who still find God in idols instead of whole universe or nature at once then he dont have proper knowledge of God.So idols are actually not needed and hence is not mentioned in vedas.Its discouraged because it divides society..Today if someone made idols according to his thoughts,then tommorrow somenone else will do and this will keep on happening and finally new false philosophy/cult/religion would start..So it should be always discouraged by wise people for welfare of society.Vedas say to practice ashtang yog and perform yajyen.

    • Arun says

      Because you are violent, mass murdering, enslaving, temple/church/synagogue destroying, imperial, world domination obsessed religion who seem thus more demonic inspired than divinely inspired.

      • Aisha says

        @Arun,
        Gosh! Not true. we ‘innocent’ Muslims don’t do all this. What about Babari Masque?
        To be fair, if you see lots of destruction in the world is cause by non-Muslims, seriously!
        A number of Muslims have been killed in Burma, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Palestine, etc.

        • Ankur says

          @Aisha: do you know babari mosque is built by destroying a temple? who destroyed that temple? and that is not the only temple that the innocent Muslims destroyed.
          Did you see what innocent Muslims did in Delhi on the occasion on shab be barat, check youtube..
          Burma: Muslims are getting killed because they tried to overcome the Buddhist population which thanks god the Buddhists did not tolerate, good for them.
          Afghanistan and Pakistan : people were not getting killed as long as there was no Islam.
          Palestine : they are stupid and engaging in fatal conflict with Israel , y ? because Quran says that Jews are to be killed, had jews just let themselves to be killed , then you would have been happy wouldn’t you.

          • Aisha says

            @Ankur I’m sad you are misinformed about palestine, pakistan, burma. That’s not true what you wrote at all.

            However, I don’t know anything about this: “Did you see what innocent Muslims did in Delhi on the occasion on shab be barat, check youtube”..

            And as for this: “do you know babari mosque is built by destroying a temple? who destroyed that temple? and that is not the only temple that the innocent Muslims destroyed.” … How can I believe in you that you are saying truth? You are the enemy of Islam so its possible you lie, sorry. My teacher told me babri mosque is destroyed by Hindues.

        • Ankur says

          @Aisha :
          I’m sad you are misinformed about palestine, pakistan, burma. That’s not true what you wrote at all
          such a convincing response, you need to look beyond your said teacher otherwise soon you will be one of the multiple wives of some great innocent Muslim(if not already)
          i don’t know which country you hail from but here are the things about the babri Masjid
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaeology_of_Ayodhya
          you are the enemy of Islam so its possible you lie
          This is why no one likes Muslims, whosoever does not believe in Islam is an enemy.
          what did i do to Islam. and who is the Enemy of Islam? what does it mean. I don’t believe in prophet Mohammed being the messenger of God and i don’t have anything against him, I have read the Quran and the hadidths and i do not find anything superior in these books and they far from being the words of one almighty, Quran and the entire Islamic literature does not stand any Ground before the Dharmic texts Vedas. i say it as i have done a comparative study and no “Teacher” has told me that, i have done it myself.
          so dear Aiysha an advice if you have to believe your teacher with blindfolds on your mind and reasoning, it would be better you take all your education from him and shut your mind down, no need to interact with the Kafirs.(Enemy) as you already “believe” that they are not telling the truth.

          • Aisha says

            @Ankur ” you need to look beyond your said teacher otherwise soon you will be one of the multiple wives of some great innocent Muslim(if not already)”

            I doubt there is an impression of sarcasm in your comment? Is that really so? How is this relate to what my teacher has told? What’s this mockery comments for me, did I ever do so? sorry but I find you non-Muslims hate Muslims.

            “This is why no one likes Muslims, whosoever does not believe in Islam is an enemy.
            what did i do to Islam. and who is the Enemy of Islam? what does it mean. I don’t believe in prophet Mohammed being the messenger of God and i don’t have anything against him, I have read the Quran and the hadidths and i do not find anything superior in these books and they far from being the words of one almighty, Quran and the entire Islamic literature does not stand any Ground before the Dharmic texts Vedas. i say it as i have done a comparative study and no “Teacher” has told me that, i have done it myself.
            so dear Aiysha an advice if you have to believe your teacher with blindfolds on your mind and reasoning, it would be better you take all your education from him and shut your mind down, no need to interact with the Kafirs.(Enemy) as you already “believe” that they are not telling the truth.”

            forgive me if i called you liar. I just wanted to say its possible you are against Islam and you lie about Islam. most of non-muslims do so seriously. perhaps thats the reason you got bersek. I don’t aim to…
            and what you said that ‘everyone who don’t believe is a enemy of islam’, actually true god is Allah & if anybody doesn’t believe in Him, he would not like, all believers are His friends & non-believers are not. He is God and he wants others to believe in Him if people dont do, it’ll make Him angry, of course.

            “ॐ”
            What does this mean?

            If you don’t mind, May I ask? How did you write in bold words & in Italic? I dunno how to.

          • Ankur says

            @Aisha:how do you know Allah is one true god ? And if allah gts angry doeashe also feels sad , happy , irritated and other plethora of such human emotions
            Please answer all my questions .

            My comment has no sarcasim it is based on what is written on the quran unless you believe there is sarcasm there.

          • Arun says

            “and what you said that ‘everyone who don’t believe is a enemy of islam’, actually true god is Allah & if anybody doesn’t believe in Him, he would not like, all believers are His friends & non-believers are not. He is God and he wants others to believe in Him if people dont do, it’ll make Him angry, of course. ”
            Are you serious? Do you hear yourself? Aisha is this your idea of God? Some petulant narcissistic child who gets mad if everyone does not revolve around him? So you believe that Allah created everything, the world universe, and yet he is so desperately emotionally needy that he wants every human that he created to worship him as Allah as his slaves but some how he just couldn’t create all his humans to do that so he gets mad at them!

    • raj.hyd says

      kai karod muslim kahalane valeapni knyaon aisha nam hi nahi rakhte hai, aysha ji jab 6 saal ki thi tab 50 varshiy muhammad ji ne anek patniya hote huye bhi nikah[sex] ki “mnsika”ta banayi fir kaise i love islam kaha jaye ?

      • Aisha says

        bro/sis raj.hyd, what are you saying? what is the language you are speaking? Hindu? Please write in English or Arabic. Thanks.

        • raj.hyd says

          param pujy bahan Aisha ji , hindu nahi balki hindi bhasha ham jante hai angreji v arbi se ham parichit bhi nahi hai !

        • arya rudra garg says

          @aisha sister we respect women , muhammad was surely a bad person. he married to a 6 yr. old girl when he was over 50. how a girl can like islam. man is allowed not only to marry 4 girls but also he can keep as many girls as he wants, if he has bought. you are surely, deviated. go an see alisina.org you will get the truth of islam. an educated person can’t remain in islam. I have read koran as well as hadith and foun a lot of mistakes. the nonsense talk of science in koran is also wrong. there is no science. this is a method to fool the followers of islam people

  26. raj.hyd says

    param adarniya bahan aisha ji ! quran kahati hai ki muslim ek giroh hai ! quran kahatihai ki allah satve asman me ek singhasan me baitha hua hai ! dekhe kuran 38/75 jisme qurani allah apne” dono hatho” se adam ji ko bananeka dava karte hai ! dekhe quran2/65 aur 5/60 jisme qurani alalh ki nafarmani karne ke karan kisi giroh ko allah ne bandar v suar [pig] bana diya jatr batlaiye ki” kis tarike se ” inko banaya gaya! aaj to kai arab ki sankhya me nagrik qurani allah ki nafarmani kar rahe hai ab kyo nahi unko bandar v suar banade te hai. ya to vah baat jhuthi hai ! varna aaj bhi aisa hota ?dekhe quran2/66-73 tak kis vishesh gaay ki hatya karke uski mans se kisi murda vyakti ko chuklkar vah murda ho jata hai firaone hatyare ka naam batlakar fir se mar jata hai ? yah tarika aj kyo nahi apnaya jata karib 60 desh muslim bahul hai unme yah tarika kyo nahi apnaya jata fir is kahani ko bhi jhutha kyo n maan liya jaye ?

    • Aisha says

      @ raj.hyd, Don’t know what your saying. 0_O
      OH! Gosh, my Gosh!
      … gfcvcxcy xzjchjd nzccsjhtd da cjiuh gjkhyi hjyi bxsgdrfw mfjhktu sadrwte iyturetewbx vmbkg ndgvh dhfgdhsg fdhgdg mhgjk vmnjghtc zxsfk ,jjouy lahgybvfe kaxka lsaas kirethr kkl fdas lhkj vsdfs fjhtk vsdfw iyrurt jetdb v jkdhg…. HINDI HINDI HINDI… HINDI HINDI HINDI <_<
      Is there any report button start English or otherwise I'll report you. you will go jail withot a mummy daddy, without a bread & butter… ^_^

      • Sanatan Dharma says

        @Aisha
        Dear, Raj Ji saying Allah is false God. Muhammad was most suffered person inspite of his too much devotion in Allah same as Muslims who are much suffered the reason of their suffering, they are worshiping false God (Allah). “Allah” is shatian in disguise of God.

  27. raj.hyd says

    param adarniy bahan Aisha ji , ishvar[god] kis ko apna sandesh karta nahi banata muhammad ji to anpadh the fir unko kyo banayega ?agar kisi ko sandesh karta banata hai to yah ek pakshapat rahega 1 gtan ek khoj ka vishayhamesha raha hai ishvar kis ko gyan nahi deta hai ! agar quran ishvarki natim vani hoti to isme mobaile phone, rail motar jahaz internet adi ki takneek bhi hoti jo nahi hai !

  28. Aisha says

    @Ankur
    “how do you know Allah is one true god ?”
    Because The Noble Quran says so.

    “And if allah gts angry doeashe also feels sad , happy , irritated and other plethora of such human emotions”
    No. Quran says there is none like him. so Allah does not have human emotions. When He gets angry, it is not like our human anger. Allah is different than His creation. You can read the attributes of Allah. http://blahzeeblah.wordpress.com/tag/99-names-of-allah/ These names are the attributes of Allah.

    “Please answer all my questions” .
    Hope I’ve answered. InShaa’Allah

    “My comment has no sarcasim it is based on what is written on the quran unless you believe there is sarcasm there.”

    Wrong Mr. Ankur. There is sarcasm.
    Look you, what you wrote: “you need to look beyond your said teacher otherwise soon you will be one of the multiple wives of some great innocent Muslim(if not already)”
    who told you if my teacher conclude such-and-such is so-and-so i.e My teacher told me babri mosque is destroyed by Hindues. then I’d be one of the multiple wives of some great innocent Muslim.
    O yeah, you obviously don’t think that Muslims are ‘innocent’ and ‘great’, do you???
    So is not this sarcasm? Com on Mr. Ankur be honest!

    I don’t mean to sound argumentative but have to tell you the truth. Apologies for anything I’ve said.

    • raj.hyd says

      DEKHE QURAN38/75 jisme qurani allah apne “dono hatho” se adam ji ko banane ki baat karte hai ,dekhe quran39/67 jisme qurani allah apne ” dayen haath” se asman ko lapetne kibaat karte hai dehe quran 5/64 jisme qurani alalah apne”dono haath “khule hone ki baat karte hai isse siddh hota hai ki qurani alalh ek simit shakti vaa hai aur vah insano jaisa hai jabki ishvar ek nirakar chetan shakti ka naam hai isliye ishvar v qurani allah ek nahi ho sakte hai !

    • Ankur says

      @Aisha: well if the sarcasm bothers you so much lets leave it aside…don’t want to go there as it will divert the topic.
      a) Quran is the word of Allah and in that he says in it that He himself is one true God.- Amazing but a fallacious self validating statement and logically inadmissible . any statement to be considered as a fact cannot have circular reasoning, please support your statement that “Allah is one true God” logically, if you want to be taken seriously
      b) you said
      ..He is God and he wants others to believe in Him if people don’t do, it’ll make Him angry, of course
      can you see the word “want”, any being wants when he does not have, and one who does not have and so wants CANNOT be GOD.
      upon the non-fulfillment of this “want” he gets angry and punishes people, this defines a typical behavior of a idiosyncratic lunatic HUMAN

      c) Quran says that a good Muslim can marry 4 women if he is wealthy and affluent(i.e. to support them), no sane muslima would not want to marry a GOOD wealthy an affluent Muslim man, so by this Standard of Quran my statement stands justified that you will end up as “one” of the wives of a good muslim.–again there is no sarcasm, its taking the facts as they are.

      besides your teacher already lied to you by not telling you the full truth that the babri Masjid was built by destroying the temple, so rather than posing the question to me, be honest and righteous and put the question to your teacher as to why he did not tell you the full truth.

      Hope I’ve answered. InShaa’Allah– are you joking .

  29. Aisha says

    @Arun
    “Are you serious?”
    Yes. What do you think Mr. Arun I’m kidding?

    “Do you hear yourself?”
    Have read from Quran – The Glorious Book of Almighty.

    “Aisha is this your idea of God?”
    Yes. Have you any doubt.

    “Some petulant narcissistic child who gets mad if everyone does not revolve around him? So you believe that Allah created everything, the world universe, and yet he is so desperately emotionally needy that he wants every human that he created to worship him as Allah as his slaves but some how he just couldn’t create all his humans to do that so he gets mad at them!”

    Astaghfirullaha rabbi min kulli zanbiwwa atoobo ilai. Extremely wrong idea. Allah has created everyone. He commanded His slaves (we) to follow His commandments. if we don’t, we are exaggerating. so we would be punished by Allah. That’s what I believe.

    FYI even in Saudi Arabia despite all that oppression people open their minds and question and think. Please read this article.
    Interview with a Saudi atheist by William Bauer Last updated: April 30, 2013 http://www.yourmiddleeast.com/columns/article/interview-with-a-saudi-atheist_11146

    “You are fortunate that you live in a country like India that allows for a diversity of beliefs including non-belief.”
    lol who told you I’m live in India? No only India but many ‘Muslim’ countries too allow for a diversity of beliefs , so nothing special.

    • Arun says

      Many Muslim countries do not tolerate a diversity of beliefs. Muslims countries top most repressive regimes. Non-Muslims are not treated as equals of those whose faiths are remotely tolerated, and atheists are routinely persecuted in Muslim countries.

      Your idea of a petulant narcissistic God is sad. If people don’t follow his commands then it is his fault as he created people to be such. Either he did it on purpose or he is not almighty.

  30. Aisha says

    a) Quran is the word of Allah and in that he says in it that He himself is one true God.- Amazing but a fallacious self validating statement and logically inadmissible . any statement to be considered as a fact cannot have circular reasoning, please support your statement that “Allah is one true God” logically, if you want to be taken seriously

    What kind of logic you want? Quran is the book of Allah, it says all this, so what do you want anymore? seriously!

    b) you said
    ..He is God and he wants others to believe in Him if people don’t do, it’ll make Him angry, of course
    can you see the word “want”, any being wants when he does not have, and one who does not have and so wants CANNOT be GOD.upon the non-fulfillment of this “want” he gets angry and punishes people, this defines a typical behavior of a idiosyncratic lunatic HUMAN

    I dont believe like this. you do so keep on. I don’t.

    c) Quran says that a good Muslim can marry 4 women if he is wealthy and affluent(i.e. to support them), no sane muslima would not want to marry a GOOD wealthy an affluent Muslim man, so by this Standard of Quran my statement stands justified that you will end up as “one” of the wives of a good muslim.–again there is no sarcasm, its taking the facts as they are.

    I know such muslimahs who are happily married to such muslims. Its wrong to say no any same muslimah wud do so. Whats wrong If Allah has given an option?

    ”Hope I’ve answered. InShaa’Allah– are you joking .”

    No. Not by a long short. can I guess you nonMuslims can’t accept a number of things of Islam? you just present your own logic?

    • Ankur says

      “No. Not by a long short. can I guess you nonMuslims can’t accept a number of things of Islam? you just present your own logic?”
      you are funny by at the same time fit the quranic definition of women that they are half the intelligence of a man.
      so there is no point engaging in an INTELLECTUAL conversation with likes of you. besides if this “OWN LOGIC” is so non acceptable ,i would suggest you carry on with your half intellect (no sarcasm, its as per Qur’an) and stop visiting this site because as far as i know all the people here use this thing that you call “OWN LOGIC” and have not yet shut down this seat of Logic (brain).

    • Sina says

      @Aisha
      //Quran is the word of Allah and in that he says in it that He himself is one true God//

      Do you know about circular reasoning? It goes like this.

      Sina: How do you know Muhammad was a prophet of God.
      Muslim: Because it says in the Quran and the Quran is the book of God.
      Sina: How do you know the Quran is the book of GOd?
      Muslim: Because Muhammad said it is the book of God.
      Sina:How do you know Muhammad did not lie?
      Muslim: He was the messenger of God and the messenger of God does not lie.

      Circular reasoning is not for rational people. It is a logical fallacy. If I use circular reasoning you will immediately know I am lying. Let me try.

      Sina: I am a prophet of God
      Muslim: Said who?
      Sina: God said it.
      Muslim: But he did not say that to me.
      Sina: He said it to me
      Muslim: How do we know you are not lying?
      Sina: Oh I cannot lie because I am a prophet of God.

      Will you fall for this reasoning? You won\’t because you can immediately spot the circular reasoning. Muhammad used the same kind of circular reasoning and you have no problem repeating it. No rational person believes in circular reasoning. Muslims who believe in this line of argument are truly ignorant people with no rational mind.
      http://alisina.org/blog/2013/07/07/3665/

  31. Ankur says

    Islamist throwing their fellow Muslims to their death because they don’t want an Islamist regime but a life free from Islamist oppression.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/egypt/10172711/Egypt-crisis-Morsi-supporters-filmed-throwing-opponents-off-tower-in-shocking-video.html

    does any one want the same for their country ?
    we must learn more about every ideology and critically analyzed everything for a better future and thus nurture mentally bright kids and not mentally crippled animals.

  32. Vishwas Gokhale says

    There is a problem here . The manusmriti says that the god ( Brahma ) created the living beings. The But it also mentions that the god created various animal and also plant species and inserted what it calls Aatman or Aham or the “I”. Modern biology defines living being as something which responds to the surrounding stimulus. The manusmriti or all such ancient scripts mentions that Aham or the “I”. And the expression of being aham is called “Ahankar” or the feeling of being I aganist the outside world. Exactly like the modern biology describes the living being.

    If you read the chapter of about the duties of the king or the Raja ( That is the largest chapter of manusmriti” ) you will realise that it is almost like part of a constitution of any country of the modern world.. And afterall you must evaluate the manusmriti considering the period in which it was written. The period was when there were no Ganga or Jamuna but there were rivers like Iravati and Saraswati and the region consited of a land stretching from Himalaya to Vindhya and the Sea on either side on west and east. and not only that there was a very well developed language like Sanskrit. I do not think there was any civilization in the world comparable to what existed in this manusmriti period.
    Vishwas Gokhale

  33. Krishnarao says

    Rama, was a man (he wasn’t God or godman), as many Arya Samaj and other Vedic people believe. The thing was Rama a good man and he practiced Yoga and was enlightened. Like Buddha.

  34. RamNarayan says

    KrishnaRao ji, Namaste!
    Our learned pundits have slipped the subtle difference between param pita parameshwar and devata. Human beings can rise to a level of devata who always give good to society to follow by practicing yoga and following dharma. Rama, Krishna and other enlightened were devata and not Parameshwar(GOD).

  35. Krishnarao says

    Namaste RamNaryan,

    Thank you for your response. I would say they were Rishis. Krisha, Rama, Buddha, and many many more. And anyone can become a Rishi. They just practice Yoga and meditation and reach enlightenment and become a Rishi. Simple as that.

    Best,
    Krishnarao

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